New York Times “lightning rod conservative” columnist Bill Kristol was among the group of East Coast elite conservative pundits who supped with communist Barack Obama last week at George Will’s oxen farm in Maryland, so we were “interested” to see what he would write in today’s edition of his war column. Alas, he simply offers a perfunctory mention of the dinner before this terrifying twist: “…I’ve found myself thinking these last few days more about the man who has shouldered the burdens of office for the past eight years, George W. Bush.” Thus begins a rant about his fellow Jews and the anti-Semitic PBS host Bill Moyers, who probably loves the Holocaust.
Bill Kristol actually goes to his synagogue! But it makes him so angry, see? Because all he can think about is why his fellow congregants don’t love George W. Bush enough… almost as though they loathe themselves?
He wasn’t my favorite among Republicans in 2000. He has made mistakes as president, and has limitations as a leader. But he has exercised his just and rightful authority in a way — I believe — that deserves recognition and respect.
It will probably be a while before he gets much of either. In synagogue, right after the prayer for our country, there is a prayer for the state of Israel, asking the “rock and redeemer of the people Israel” to “spread over it the shelter of your peace.” As we recited this on Saturday, I couldn’t help but reflect that a distressingly small number of my fellow Jews seem to have given much thought at all to the fact that President Bush is one of the greatest friends the state of Israel — and, yes, the Jewish people — have had in quite a while. Bush stood with Israel when he had no political incentive to do so and received no political benefit from doing so. He was criticized by much of the world. He did it because he thought it the right thing to do.
Yeah, are there any other American presidents who’ve stood by Israel completely on every occasion? Nope, only George W. Bush, the Protector.
Kristol is glad that George W. Bush was president these last eight years instead of, say, Bill Moyers — who very well could’ve been president. Is there any doubt that Bill Moyers would’ve sold America to Nazi Germany just for his own amusement?
He has been denounced for this, as Israel has been denounced for doing what it judged necessary to defend itself. The liberal sage Bill Moyers has been a harsh critic of Bush. On Jan. 9, on PBS, he also lambasted Israel for what he called its “state terrorism,” its “waging war on an entire population” in Gaza. He traced this Israeli policy back to the Bible, where “God-soaked violence became genetically coded,” apparently in both Arabs and Jews. I wouldn’t presume to say what is and isn’t “genetically coded” in Moyers’s respectable Protestant genes. But I’m glad it was George W. Bush calling the shots over the last eight years, not someone well-thought of by Moyers.
… Slow news week?
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“But I’m glad it was George W. Bush calling the shots over the last eight years, not someone well-thought of by Moyers.”
Yeah Kristol Meh. I was so fucking sick of peace and prosperity, too.
“But I don’t think keeping us safe has been Bush’s most impressive achievement. That was winning the war in Iraq . . .”
WTF! What color is the sky in Bill Kristol’s world, and how does this guy keep a fucking job? Also.
“Calling the shots”? So Bush has been drinking all along? I thought it was only on the anniversary of 9/11 and Jeebus’s birthday.
No political incentive? Our only Ally in the entire region?
How the hell does Bill Kristol breath, with his head so far up George Bush’s ass?
Well, I can see that none of Barry’s smartness or common sense rubbed off on this guy during the dinner.
Israel came into being in 1948, thanks in part to…Harry S Truman, right? And let’s see: Ike was okay with Israel, and Kennedy was a supporter, and Johnson—oh yeah, he let Israel bomb the shit out of a destroyer of ours during the Six-Day War because they were eavesdropping on Israeli commo. So he’s in the tank too. Nixon — Kissinger. Need I say more? Carter lerved Israel ’cause it was The Ho-Ho-Ho-ley Land, and matched up Begin and Sadat to start the “peace process,” whatever that is. Reagan was in the tank for Isreal. Bush 41, oh yeah: he knocked out Iraq to protect Israel’s back (also Saudi). Clinton did the Helskinki Accords, and Kristol has just told us Chimpy was also Israel’s BFF. So which fucking preznident didn’t support Israel, since the day it started, enough for you, Billy K? Have you ever read, or even experienced, any fucking history, Bill?
What a dipshit.
Bush didn’t stop the mayhem in Gaza because he wanted a “real, lasting” cease-fire. Judging by Irael’s pre-inauguration pullout, that has now been achieved, and worth the wait, it was: Bush’s last act of irresponsibility. If Kristol wants to sit shiva for the Bush administration for the next 20 hours, he can be my guest. And he can bite my weenie, also.
“… Slow news week?”
No, just a slow bowel movement from old Bill.
Bill Kristol is a Jew? I thought he was Canadian
“Oxen farm”? I thought he lived on a beet farm with his retarded Amish brother.
Written with all the self-righteous smugness of someone who has never had the soul-sickening experience of seeing a dead child. And not on TV. Does this creep EVER think about the thousands of people we’ve killed as collateral damage in our righteous war?
Millions of people out of work in this country, and Kristol Meth gets paid for this shite.
Wasn’t Bloody Bill supposed to have been fired by the new year? Did NY Times change it’s mind just to annoy people?
Do oxen golf at the Chevy Chase Country Club or do they carry the clubs?
shanemac: Thank you. I guess Kristolmeh thought he could slip this in… again. It proves he identifies not really as an American or even a Jew, but as a Rovian.
shanemacgowan: Bush did win the war in Iraq. From the London Times, June 28, 2008: Four oil giants - Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total and BP - are to announce next week no-bid contracts to start servicing the creaking Iraqi oil infrastructure, crippled for decades by lack of investment and often targeted by insurgents.
That’s “winning.” That was the purpose, and it was achieved.
I am not endorsing this exercise in armed robbery, just reporting.
If Bush is such a great friend of the Jews, why was he tongue kissing on the kink of the Salti Arabers down in Crawford a few years back?
Dear Bill,
If you ever show your face at my Temple, I’ll kick you in the groin.
Sincerely,
ALMOST EVERY JEW BUT YOU
p.s., you too Ken Mehlman.
Pardon the OT… it seems Jill Biden had some slippage of the tongue-age on Oprrrah. Joe was offered Sexy O’State or VP.
So children, pull up a chair, get some pop corn, and let’s watch the Biden vs. Hilary foreign policy game begin. Seems Joe wants a head start. Guess President Hopemaster will not only be a parent of Sasha and Malia.
Which reminds me, what bar will ex-Preznit Bill be habituating tomorrow? The Shandon Star? O’Flannigans? The Mayflower?
I can’t believe this douche nozzle used to host the Academy Awards.
It’s not that Dubya supported Israel so much as he said nice things about them and refused to rein in the excesses of the righties like Ariel Sharon. The first is commensurate with his being an evangelical, and the second is in line with his general policy of doing nothing when actual action is required (i.e. the August PDB, Katrina).
For Kristol to find this supportive, he’d have to argue that one’s innate ignorance and stupidity constitute some sort of policy. Fortunately, he’s just the person to argue that point.
And what other president of the
United States — lame duck or
otherwise — would be regarded
with such CONTEMPT by “our only
ally in the region” that a dishonest
money grubbing “chosen” fuck like
Ehud Olmert, would PUBLICLY BOAST
of ORDERING the fucking dunce to
“step down from the podium” (GWB)
and take his (EO’s) marching orders
for how to vote in the UN ????
I can live with the practical realities
of the power arrangement in the
Middle East, but even as a card-carrying
lefty in 1972, when that tone-deaf
moron McGovern said he would go to
Vietnam and “beg” those little slimy
dipshits for our POWs, he made my
fucking blood pressure go through the roof.
In the words of my favorite flatfoot
Mark Fuhrman
“We don’t ask — we tell”. We don’t
take orders from client states, no
matter WHO fucking “chose” them. WE TELL;
THEY FUCKING LISTEN.
We won the Iraq war? I would hate to see what loss would have looked like.
Sad. My Bill Kristol-is-right-about-something Google alert has never sent me anything.
NunnaTheSOBs: Interesting lyric, but how does the tune go?
Aurelio: If ‘we’ won, why in the world are three out of those four furren oil companies?
wheelie:
it is sung to the tune of
My country ’tis of fucking thee.
Throw-away column. Bet he wrote it in 15 minutes, then went home to weep.
He goes to church on Saturday??! What’s with that?!
I read this having just finished watching video on the anti-semite PBS Newshour of four phosphorus (phosphorus, people–the stuff that civilized countries don’t use) fall on a Gaza school. Israel claims that was just shooting back at the terrorists–just like they did when they destroyed those UN refugee centers, and the fucking ambulance and all the other shit they have blown up.
You’d think a country with a war minister named Zippy Livvie (that’s how it sounds to me) would be more sensitive. WTF? The woman sounds like a character on Spongebob. You wouldn’t think she’d okay an attack that could burn children alive.
Wise old Assad suggested years ago that the middle east be declared a nuclear free zone. We, of course, objected (as he knew we would). After all, there’s only one nuclear power in the middle east. Except we have to pretend that we don’t know and they have to pretend that they don’t know that we know and we have to pretend that we don’t know they know that we know that they know that we’re pretending.
I, for one, am entirely capable of separating a country from the majority religion. The founders had the wisdom to separate church and state. I don’t approve of any country that is ruled as a theocracy be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or Rastafarian.
Wait. I think I want to take that last back.
What’s up with that photo you always use for Kristol posts? It looks like the picture they show on the news after someone has disappeared.
El Pinche: Win. Yours is the one that made me laugh out loud.
Fuck–Booth says this guy goes to church on Saturday? I so didn’t know the Seventh Day Adventists were so pro-Israel and political. Just shows, you never know.
Does anyone know if Bill was invested with “Uncle Bernie?”
SayItWithWookies: Win
DustBowlBlues:
It seems so hard to get people
in THIS country to understand,
that ALL the self righteous bastards
in that part of the world, into
whose ears God always seems to
be whispering, are utterly
INCAPABLE of even a modicum of
empathy for the suffering on the
other side.
That’s the damn problem when God’s
lips are always on your ears; you
never have time to clear out the
wax buildup.
This explains the Angela Merkel neckrub. He was really throttling her, and snarling, “This is for Simon Wiesenthal!”
I know people that dispute that our involvement in Iraq includes doing Israel’s dirty work. Glad to know Kristol confirms it. But then he is wrong about everything, so it probably isn’t true.
Cedar: Wishful thinking.
Bill Kristol is still employed?
asking the “rock and redeemer of the people Israel” to “spread over it the shelter of your peace.”
Shoot, all Captain Kirk had to say was “Shields!”
As embarrassingly bad as Kristol always has been, he doesn’t quote Mark Fuhrman.
him & beck: judeo-xian bible-thumpers. nutsy.
lawrenceofthedesert:
The beauty of Furhrman was that
he was a good cop, but a lousy
liar.
If he had only had the balls to
ADMIT that he frequently used the
“n-word”, as we blacks do all the
time, O.J. would have long since
been sitting in jail.
I never disliked Fuhrman for using
the “n-word”. I disliked him for
not having the balls to admit it.
Dr. Kristol’s going to have to start writing about something other than Bush starting next Monday and he needed to phone one more in. The same holds true for Ms. Dowd who, I guess, will continue her potshots at HRC since she had made it clear she hates both Bill and Hill.
Hey Billy douchebag! Barry may have been civil enough to sit down to dinner with you, but don’t get any ideas that he would take anything you said seriously, because he is smart and you are an idiot. In other words, Hopey don’t need your advice like W did, so STFU!
Is this thing working?
Wait. The neocon who “discovered” Sarah Palin is a jew? Oy vey.
Aurelio: whew. I thought the oil bill failed to pass the Iraqi parliament.
Scandalabra: a disappointment, but we know all neocons are dumb.
stew: He hasn’t gone away because he has Puma-like qualities (or homeless crazy guy qualities) - you give it any attention at it will keep pestering you.
If he’s such a lightning rod, how come he hasn’t been struck yet? I’d even take a couple of Iraqi shoes as a striking
Everett_dIRKSEN: Hmmmm….guess not
You know…I’m beginning to think this thing just might be
a waste of money!
smellyal8r: So Billy Kristol is a PhD? But I just found out today PhDs are no good anymore, you need to go for the “Grand PhD” or you are nothing:
http://www.widu.be/demands_to_phd_grand_phd
ManchuCandidate: Indeed. The eight years of peace and prosperity during the inter-Bush period was so boring.
The past eight years of pestilence, war, famine and death leading to worldwide economic collapse and endless fighting that the lead cocksucker GWB has left us was really interesting to get through.
The closer he is to leaving the more I hate the smug jerk-off.
Bruno: Yah and he got it from Hah-vahd, dontcha know. As to the Grand PhD, it sounds like it’s awarded by a bunch of kraut eggheads. Solve an original problem? Spend four to five years? Pass…
If you see Bill Kristol in a casino at a roulette table, and he bets black, put everything you have on red. This is the wrongest person in existence. He is deluded in a way that suggests he’s been drugged or hypnotized. He is so often wrong, and so stupidly, blindly ideological that he is not even interesting.
He is also a giant douche.
shanemacgowan: “What color is the sky in Bill Kristol’s world…”
Purple Haze.
Cedar: “looks like the picture they use when someone has disappeared”
Oh, from your mouth/keyboard to God’s ears.
Why does anyone listen to this asshat about anything?
Will someone please tell me why on god’s green earth Bill Kristol is still allowed to open his mouth?
http://democralypsenow.blogspot.com/
Bruno: In Kristol’s case, PhD stand for Post hole Digger.
bitchincamaro:
An electronics instructor in the USAF,
who had no college degree, used to break
down “sheepskins” thusly:
BS “Bull Shit”
MS “More of Same”
PhD “Piled Higher and Deeper”
given the current state of the banking system
(courtesy of all thos PhD’s and MBA’s), old
Sgt. Dalton might have been on to something.
Just read the Wikipedia entry on this puke. It quotes a droll catalogue of grotesquely erroneous statements. I bet he even wrote the speech in which McCain said “the economy is fundamentally sound”–though that’s more accurate than anything he’s ever said about the middle-east in his entire life.
V572625694: Not Harry Truman, precisely.
To be accurate, British PM David Lloyd George [a member of The Christian Church, which was founded in Bourbon County, Kentucky. (Truth.)], to spite the pro-German government of the Ottoman Turks control over Palestine, issued in 1917 the Balfour Declaration, saying that Palestine was the homeland of the Jews, as opposed to Ottoman-controlled Arabs. [Not getting into a dispute about whose homeland is whose either way.] Thus, European political manipulation has been a sparking point of the Palestine/Israel mix. Project forward from Balfour Declaration to today and reap what has been sown, white boys. Time to stick an oar in rather than paddle behind.
In synagogue, right after the prayer for our country, there is a prayer for the state of Israel,
There’s some Orthodox that just got mighty pissed about the fact that they’ve been praying for the state of Israel. Not only that… but they were doing it thousands of years before there even was a state of Israel.
Heads are gonna fuckin’ roll.
I think Moyers deserves a good rant. He has had that show for years and like nobody pays any attention to him. Good for you Bill Moyers. I would say Moyers should respond and start a media feud, but going into ‘09 Bill Kristol isn’t worth it. Maybe a few years ago, but now, nah.
S.Luggo: Mandatory snark: Palin asks, if the meth labs in Wasilla were attacked by DEA agents hurling flamiming ski-mobiles, shouldn’t Alaska have the right to defenderate itself? really.
Yes, Mr. Kristol thank god over the last 8 years the cooler heads prevailed…like those of the right-wing fundamentalist Israeli zealots and the Christian Dominionists and Rapturists, who took over our nations security apparatus.
slavojzizek: That was a little payoff for our pals and partners in crime, the Brits. You didn’t think they helped us out for free, did you?
sati demise: Thanks for mentioning this. I think you’re right. As of October, 2008, the Iraq parliament was still stalling. Link. Maybe we haven’t won yet, after all.
I’m sure it’s already been said here, but Bush supports Israel only because it’s in his wacked-out theology that somehow the Jewish people have to stick around so the Christians can eventually climb to heaven on the backs of their scorched cadavers. (Don’t ask me WTF that’s about. I don’t happen to be psychotic. Check with one of those nutwads in Colorado Springs; they have the full psychodrama.) It’s tough to be overly sentimental about that kind of “loyalty.”
838 minutes and counting.
Aurelio: Dead link. Try this one: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/RAS647040.htm If this doesn’t work, I’ll declare victory and retire.
Billy in his icky praise of George is in a Halavah-induced denial. As an Evangelical, W. believes that the Second Coming is possible only when the Children of Israel return to, and occupy Palestine, the Holy Land. After that is the Rapture, and the Evangelicals ascend to heaven. The rest? Meh.
DustBowlBlues: Sensitivity is chronicled by the victors.
Cedar: “It looks like the picture they show on the news after someone has disappeared.”
Excluding the fact that thw picture wouldn’t fit on a 50-gallon drum of industrial cleanser.
GlennBecksFelch: Dude, if you’re still out there, I just wikied your name. I just want to say, ew x ew to infinity and beyond. No one can touch that. You are the Champion of the World.
frieswidat: Bush supports Israel only because it’s in his wacked-out theology….
That’s not the only reason. Don’t forget the influential PNAC Likudniks.
It looks like a picture of Chevy Chase after a really big fart.
Yes Kristol, Wolfie’s pedophile uncle, where’s auntie Anne?
Bruno:
Bill Kristol is a Jew?
Every village has its idiot.
Does ANYBODY believe:
That George W. Bush is someone who did what he did because “he thought it was the right thing to do”? As opposed to the popular opinion that he’s a corrupt idiot.
Or that he “deserves respect”. For what? 9/11, Bin Laden, WMD, Mission Accomplished, Katrina, Alberto Gonzales, “food on your children”, Halliburton, No Child Left Behind, Terry Schiavo, Walter Reed, the economy? I’d go on but there isn’t enough room.
Or that Bill Kristol goes to synagogue to “pray”.
Is Bill Kristol still here? Will the Bush Legacy Tour and the Worst President ever JUST GO AWAY!
Memo to Peggy Noonan:
Good news, Noonington. Next time someone accuses you of being the most fatuous, brain-dead excuse for a mainstream journalist on the planet, just point them in the direction of Bill Krapful and all (…well maybe some) will be forgiven.
Best Regards
The Captain.
I CAN HAZ KRISTOL BLINGEE?
Bruno: PHD means: Push Here Dummy!