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Black Town Hall Questioner Tears Apart McCain In Facebook Message

You may recall the second question from Tuesday night’s town hall debate from a young black fellow named Oliver Clark. Clark asked the candidates what the bailout package does for the Average American. McCain responded by attacking Obama for not regulating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — it was his ONE JOB AND HE BLEW IT — and in the process said to Clark, “You probably never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before this.” Because how would anyone have known about these two mortgage giants that back 70% of the country’s mortgages? Well, it was condescending anyway, and Clark has posted a hilarious message on his Facebook saying that he has like 500 college degrees and calling Walnuts a horrible racist.

He answers a bunch of questions — apparently he has been bombarded with them, on this Facebook, but here’s the juicy one:

7. How did I feel about Sen. McCain stating “You probably never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before this.”

Well Senator, I actually did. I like to think of myself as a fairly intelligent person. I have a bachelor degree in Political Science from Tennessee State, so I try to keep myself up to date with current affairs. I have a Master degree in Legal Studies from Southern Illinois University, a few years in law school, and I am currently pursuing a Master in Public Administration from the University of Memphis. In defense of the Senator from Arizona I would say he is an older guy, and may have made an underestimation of my age. Honest mistake. However, it could be because I am a young African-American male. Whatever the case may be it was somewhat condescending regardless of my age to make an assumption regarding whether I was knowledgeable about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Someone from the McCain campaign needs to tell NBC not to put these subprime “risky minorities” on the teevee anymore.

Questioner: ‘I actually did’ know Fannie [First Read]


4:33 PM on Thu October 9 2008
By Jim Newell
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  1. DangerousLiberal says at 4:38 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Then Sarah Palin came in and said “kill him,” and the mob she brought in from Ohio did. Thank god for that five second delay–it got pretty ugly.

  2. Doglessliberal says at 4:38 pm, October 9th, 2008

    actually, WALNUTS!, since you have never had to pay for anything on your own in your LIFE because your daddy, daddy-in-law, and wife have paid your way, it is far more likely you and your old, white ass would not have heard of FANNIE MAE than someone who has worked and earned his way in life.

  3. vintageways says at 4:39 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Someone needs to tell McCain that other people can use computers.

  4. I was wondering when the questioner was going to nail Walnuts on this one. Good on him!

  5. Jebediah says at 4:40 pm, October 9th, 2008

    When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of “U” and… well, you pretty much make yourself look like a racist dick.

  6. Canmon (the Inadequate) says at 4:42 pm, October 9th, 2008

    They were only suppossed to have undecideds there and he told Gallup that he was an Obama supporter. Gallup is in the tank for Obama.

  7. AngryBlakGuy says at 4:42 pm, October 9th, 2008

    “That One” surely takes things personal.

  8. Cogito Ergo Bibo says at 4:42 pm, October 9th, 2008

    I was HOPING someone would bust Grampy on that crack. “Oh, you’re probably too stupid to know about Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before all this.” Those of us who don’t have 11 homes actually are much more likely to know who they are, doooooood.

    At today’s townhall, Grampy asked a questioner, “Ever hear of medical errors?” Uh, yeah. Me and everyone who speaks English. I do NOT enjoy having the likes of him talk down to me.

  9. I knew Fannie Mac. Fannie Mac was my friend. You, Senator…

  10. freakishlystrong says at 4:45 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Shit, WALNUTS! probably thought Fannie Mae was a vaudeville entertainer before the Great Depression II…

  11. CrabtreesBludgeon says at 4:46 pm, October 9th, 2008

    We need to get this guy on Wonkette STAT.

  12. Cogito Ergo Bibo: Grampy needs to go back to AZ. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Cindy has enough $$$ and a nice, padded room. Forget about Senate, they don’t like ‘em either.

  13. grendel says at 4:47 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Is it over yet? Isn’t there some number of screwups a candidate and campaign can make before they just call it? I’m sick of seeing Walnuts! and Glasses! on my teevee and wish they’d just get sent to Gitmo, the end.

  14. This dude must be an Islamic terrorist. Real Americans don’t get these uppity “degrees” from fancy-pants “universities” full of elitist “education.”

  15. mattbolt says at 4:48 pm, October 9th, 2008

    People have got to learn to interact with John McCain the same way they’d interact with a developing child. When your kid comes home all excited because they learned the alphabet, you don’t go “Way to catch up, DUMBASS, everyone knows the goddamn alphabet.” You pat them on the head and act as excited as they are. Now, when McCain is acting excited about some economic or foreign affairs topic because an advisor clearly taught it to him yesterday, you shouldn’t make fun of him for learning, you should feign enthusiam and go “Uh huh, that’s good, tell me more, let’s learn together.” It helps his development.

  16. ManchuCandidate says at 4:49 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Geez, a guy who graduated 894th out of 899 should assume that everyone’s smarter than he is.

  17. Aurelio says at 4:49 pm, October 9th, 2008

    “You probably never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before this.” –They probably never heard of Lincoln Savings or Charles Keating either. Sigh. Even Dennis Deconcini, Walnuts’ partner in S&L crime, is pissing on him:

    “The question that should be raised is that McCain’s big issue here is that he shouldn’t have been at that meeting with the regulators that first time because he had a conflict. He took these three trips that he didn’t report and his wife invested $350,000 with Keating.”

    “You can criticize rest of us, but none of us had traveled with or invested with [Keating].”
    Keating.”

    LINK.

  18. I honestly didn’t get that impression from watching on the teevee, I thought McCain meant like “Who ever heard from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before this? Probably nobody ever! I mean, Cindy owns all the houses in the country as far as I know!” But maybe he was talking directly to this guy, making eye contact, and it came across differently in person.

  19. Too Lazy To Sign In says at 4:49 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Even when he tries to show that he is one of the “common folks” and understands what the “average citizen” thinks, he fails.

  20. NoWireHangers says at 4:49 pm, October 9th, 2008

    And since Oliver is educated, maybe he knows about Freddie and Fannie because he owes those whores student loan money. (Like me)

  21. NoWireHangers says at 4:51 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Cogito Ergo Bibo: “Most Americans have never heard of these ‘computers’, but just the other day at the senior center, they told me…”

  22. So, does that mean he’s “defriended” McCain?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. facebook humor.

  23. LeastValuablePlayer says at 4:52 pm, October 9th, 2008

    John McCain: Dishonest, Irresponsible, Pandering…add Delerios to that list:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC2RqfQ7Ols

  24. Anonymous Office Zombie says at 4:53 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Oliver isn’t a white soldier like McCain and that bald guy, ergo all his opinions automatically don’t count, and all charges of racism are null and void. What part of 5 AND A HALF YEARS, ALAN don’t you understand, black man? John McCain bled for our sins in a war where he was tortured like Jesus, so he knows better than people with fancy-shmancy edumacations. Case closed.

  25. magic titty says at 4:54 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Of course he knew who they were. It’s his black mortgage from ni66er-loving Fannie Mae that is ruining the United States!

  26. choinski says at 4:55 pm, October 9th, 2008

    “You probably never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before this.” - Entirely plausible if his debate prep was against Sarah Palin.

    John: Do you know how your mortgage debt was securitized and who holds it?

    Sarah: All of them!

    John: …hey, that’s probably true.

  27. LeastValuablePlayer says at 4:56 pm, October 9th, 2008

    by delerios, i meant delirious. And also, I sent the wrong YouTube link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjomYMe6t_U

  28. CrabtreesBludgeon says at 4:57 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Cogito Ergo Bibo: He is such an incredibly nasty piece of work. Hey Grampa Simpson, ever hear of FUCK YOU!??! Jeeezus.

  29. Gopherit v2.0 says at 4:58 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Why does Oliver hate the Whitey?

  30. facehead says at 4:59 pm, October 9th, 2008
  31. Cogito Ergo Bibo says at 5:00 pm, October 9th, 2008
  32. Gopherit v2.0 says at 5:01 pm, October 9th, 2008

    shoeho: We don’t want him back. You take him. He probably has a condo in your town, too.

  33. Outstando says at 5:01 pm, October 9th, 2008

    I am son of Blood and Thunder so I held it down! Shout out to the Ques Roo!

  34. facehead says at 5:03 pm, October 9th, 2008
  35. StrangelyBrown says at 5:03 pm, October 9th, 2008

    nurple: Ironically, in Ireland, “fanny” has the exact same meaning and vulgarity as “cunt” does in America. So perhaps John does know Fannie better than the rest of us?

  36. Soon the posh suburbs get an influx of illegal multiple-dwellers. For my parking space, I reserve that spot of lawn that gets shadow in the afternoon.

  37. gurukalehuru says at 5:07 pm, October 9th, 2008

    I’d never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, so I’m inclined to give Grandpa John the benefit of the doubt on this one.
    After all, he didn’t specifically say, well, what I suspect he eventually will.

  38. Texan Bulldoggette says at 5:07 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Uppity black guy. See, that’s what happens when you teach the colored folks how to read, Walnuts.

  39. Worlds End says at 5:08 pm, October 9th, 2008

    facehead: I saw that, needless to say i wasn’t surprised. In fact i was about to post that

  40. MargeSimpsonsBlackFriend says at 5:09 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Canmon (the Inadequate): Yeah, I kinda agree here. It’s understandable though. They probably thought to themselves, “who the fuck is so retarded that they are still undecided, let’s just get whoever picks up the phone.”

  41. slappypaddy says at 5:09 pm, October 9th, 2008

    LeastValuablePlayer: I thought you meant those crunchy greasy salty things that would turn my fingers yellow. As for the clip, well, look both ways, I guess.

  42. Dave J. says at 5:10 pm, October 9th, 2008

    “You probably never heard of Dorothy Gish or Lazlo Panaflex before…”

    “True, Senator, I have not.”

  43. slappypaddy says at 5:14 pm, October 9th, 2008

    facehead: He is an old, old man to be having such deeply repressed Oedipal issues.

  44. I bet he Googled it before he posted onto Facebook. McCain can read minds and he saw no knowledge of Fannie or Freddie in this man’s cerebral cortex.

    http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/

  45. Lazy Media says at 5:16 pm, October 9th, 2008

    To be fair to Walnuts, those WERE supposed to be only undecided voters at that forum. Y’know, retards.

  46. slappypaddy says at 5:18 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Cogito Ergo Bibo: Texas has never forgiven Alaska for being one size larger, so it sends its Liberty Legal Institute Einsatzgruppen north to apply shackles.

  47. slappypaddy says at 5:21 pm, October 9th, 2008

    facehead: All incoming and outgoing international calls in the land of the free and the home of the brave have been monitored by the NSA for decades. Further affiant sayeth naught.

  48. Doglessliberal says at 5:21 pm, October 9th, 2008

    magic titty: I am not joking–I heard two women in the locker room at my gym the other day saying that the reason the US is in this mess is the Community Reinvestment Act. I had to hold myself back–uh, bitches, a law from 1978 that prohibited redlining is the reason the US economy is in the toilet? Okaaaay, so those rich white people who refied three times in a year and pulled money out each time to pay off credit cards, those people and their idiot lenders had no effect? (Oh, and I saw those refis when I was in private practice. These morons came in a few times a year and pulled out fictional money for $80K in credit card bills). These are the same women who were saying Michelle Obama is an angry black woman who doesn’t represent real Americans, especially since she grew up a child of privilege. I have to keep myself from attacking these women.

  49. checkonechecktwo says at 5:23 pm, October 9th, 2008

    “a few years in law school”

    Pshhaw. Who do you think you are? What an elitist.

  50. seriesoftubescleaner says at 5:23 pm, October 9th, 2008

    “No Senator McCain, they’re going to release all the Uighurs from Gitmo. And you really should stop using that word.”

  51. Dogless: wow…remember, they’re LOSING. It doesn’t matter. They’re finally LOSING.

  52. McCain: Well, you must not be a strong swimmer nor have you probably heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before this but…”

    Rad Racist Gaffe… Wonder what Palin is up to right now…

  53. S.Luggo says at 5:38 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Oh. Oliver Clark. That One.

  54. problemwithcaring says at 5:42 pm, October 9th, 2008

    All this proves is that Gallup is the tank for NObama.

  55. Paulitik says at 5:43 pm, October 9th, 2008

    To McCain’s credit, before the crisis he didn’t know who “Fannie Mae” and Freddie Mac were either. He assumed that Freddie was the guy on the Cream of Wheat box and Fannie was some old black lady who sold pancakes.

  56. Scooter says at 5:47 pm, October 9th, 2008

    I bet Oliver Clark didn’t graduate at the bottom of his class! In fact he seems about a zillion times more informed than Grampy and Bible Spice combined!

  57. shortsshortsshorts says at 5:48 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Here in San Francisco, all we know is that Freddie spanks Mac on the Fannie.

  58. S.Luggo says at 6:01 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Doglessliberal: What was your trick for getting into the women’s locker room? I mean, like, I’ve tried. But, if I gave you a really, really small camera could you, well, you know …

  59. sanantonerose says at 6:04 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Dave J.: WIN for eternity.

  60. Too Lazy To Sign In: That’s why he picked someone to make him look smart and comeptent.

  61. ManchuCandidate: That’s why he picked the running mate that made him look competent and capable in comparison.

  62. soymocha says at 6:15 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Is anyone else waiting for McCain to fall off the stage at the next debate, a la Bob Dole?

  63. sanantonerose says at 6:29 pm, October 9th, 2008

    soymocha: Alas, he’s built too low to the ground for that to happen. If he lost his balance, he’d just weeble wobble.

  64. Outstando says at 7:18 pm, October 9th, 2008

    soymocha: Not sure he’s much of a faller. My bet is that a whole opens up in the skin on his face, and grows larger, and larger, until his skin sloughs off in one giant piece and a 900 year old legless lizard man is revealed. Then he will slither and say my friendth several times with a terrible lisp, and attempt to bite Obama on the ankle, grinding his painful but ultimately non-fatal stomach poison into the open wound with dozens of layers of dulled yet raspy teeth.

  65. Outstando says at 7:20 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Outstando: Uh, that would be ‘hole’. You asswhole.

  66. GlennBecksTaint says at 7:26 pm, October 9th, 2008

    maybe this is why McCain bolted from the debate as soon as possible. all them darkies in the room was giving him the willies.

  67. SisterTruth says at 7:57 pm, October 9th, 2008

    I think McCain is using these last few weeks to make sure that he is the first candidate since the 15th amendment passed with 0% black votes. I’m so glad Oliver schooled McRacist, but McRacist doesn’t know how to use the internets so he may not see the blog and learn that “those ones” actually know how to read! See McRacist, it’s legal for black people to read now because slavery is over. Oh, you didn’t know that slavery was over…

    Also, did you see Oliver’s face in the background when McCain called Obama, “That One” during the debate. I had the same look on my face (i’m black) at home when I heard it. Also, check Diddy’s response on his vlog
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGiYyYAAGc4. Diddy says, “Did he just say that one?” Yup, that’s just what I said because that’s basically what every black person in the whole county said. Then Didddy says, “This is 2008, not 1962.

    There’s an article in the NYT today on Black Republicans iwho plan to vote for McCain, but he’s sure say something before election day to make sure that they change their mind.

  68. themightysea says at 8:39 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Didn’t Walnuts call McCain ‘Alan’ at the end of his answer, when he went back to them? I’m completely serious… I must have misheard, though, because no one is freaking out about it.

  69. freeradical says at 8:53 pm, October 9th, 2008

    DoglessLiberal: I commend you, but hope you will attack next time. It will be a hobo gym by next week, and even their gristle-ly, fake-tanned muscle could work well in a stew.

  70. Will E. Wonker says at 9:06 pm, October 9th, 2008

    My friends…it’s time for change. My diaper is full.

  71. hopebong says at 10:50 pm, October 9th, 2008

    Give him a break. A certian VP candidate doesn’t know what Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are. How could McCain expect a mere Negro to know them?

  72. Lazy Media: Like the totally gay navy guy conveniently in the front row aisle seat McCain got to handle. How old are you? 15?

  73. Doktor Avalanche says at 12:16 am, October 10th, 2008

    nurple: Along with losing the country in the process.

    I’m afraid the only thing we’re going to have to show for it when this is over is a broken down MX missile with the words “SO LONG SUCKERS” stenciled on the side of it.

  74. magic titty says at 9:35 am, October 10th, 2008

    Doglessliberal: You should just attack them. Why hold back?

  75. Doglessliberal says at 11:15 am, October 10th, 2008

    magic titty: I like my gym. I’d be banned, I bet

  76. hermanzegerman says at 5:10 pm, October 10th, 2008

    That guy also stated: ‘I said most likely I would be voting for Barack Obama. They followed with, “is there any chance that you would change your mind“? I said “Of course anything is possible.” WTF??? One month before the election and he says he might swing from Obama to McCain. Apparently 2 degrees and a lot of time in a university don’t protect from stupidity!

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