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FIRING LINE

MORE CAMPAIGN DISCOURSE: Oh look, it’s Ben Smith of the Politico and your editor doing one of these New York Magazine things. Smith says Wonkette’s commenters suck, and describes how Steve Schmidt put him in that tank! Your editor types more weird shit about Plato and Grand Moff Tarkin. [NY Mag Instant Politics]


4:11 PM on Tue September 23 2008
By Ken Layne
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  1. 2druk2phluq says at 4:16 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    … adding, “I’m rubber, you’re glue, what bounces off of me sticks to you. And it stains, no matter who your dry cleaner is.”

  2. bitchincamaro says at 4:16 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Could not read; too long. But that photo caption should read: “Steve Schmidt going down on John McCain.”

  3. LucyHoneychrrch says at 4:19 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    They say “low-rent hi-jinks” like it’s a BAD thing.

  4. Doglessliberal says at 4:20 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    OK, this is fake. A whole IM dialogue with no typos?

    But seriously, this is good. Nice to read sane political discourse.

  5. Doglessliberal says at 4:23 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    oh, and for the full nutjob universe, check out the comments on the WaPo politics blogs.

  6. JadedDIssonance says at 4:25 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    I think that KL and BS are my fave online poli-news editors ever. Teh awesomeness of having them together in the same talky spot is almost more than I can take. I like how Ben Smith knows everyone and everything, and then how Ken Layne takes all that detail shit and gives us a sweet Grand Moff Overview.

    Nice work guys.

  7. Kev-O-Tron says at 4:29 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    bitchincamaro: Amazingly I made it through. I’m part of the MTV generation and anything longer than a blog post is a little difficult. My girlfriend talks shit because she’s elitist and reads elitist New Yorker which I find to be snobbish and often quite dull. Generally, I’m well acquainted with the substance of any given New Yorker article before it even reaches her mailbox and can even point out the highlights because they’ve been all over the blogosphere for a week. But I don’t read the fucking magazine so I’m the equivalent of a Fox News wonk.

  8. ManchuCandidate says at 4:30 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Does this mean Wonkette is the sane/semi intelligent equivalent of a gated community?

  9. some of us DO suck. not that there’s anything wrong with it!

  10. Texan Bulldoggette says at 4:31 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    I agree that those commenters on Politico are bat shit crazy. They manage to work in NOBama, Hussein, Rezko, Muslim and uppity in the same sentence; I don’t even bother reading them anymore. They are serious Timothy McVeigh-weapons stockpiling ethnic-hating nut jobs. As opposed to the commenters over here–we’re just a good kind of crazy & mostly drunk, but wa-a-a-y more literate.

  11. InsidiousTuna says at 4:32 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Yeah, Layne, that was refreshing. Nice to read Smith speaking out against his commenters, they give him a lot of shit.

    Also, check out this Wonkette chatroom thing I made! It’s nifty!

    http://wonkette.chatango.com

  12. Botswana Meat Commission FC says at 4:34 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    KL has a big gnarly beard and lives in a decrepit desert horse farm in the middle of the desert….

    Are we rocking Nike or Adidas for the mass suicide? I prefer Puma, but whatevs.

  13. Kev-O-Tron says at 4:37 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    InsidiousTuna: I don’t get it. What’s it for? just chatting on the tubes?

  14. Kev-O-Tron says at 4:38 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    @Botswana Meat Commission FC

    “the last known inhabits of this desert were members of the Manson family.”

  15. hockeymom says at 4:40 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    These IM things make me feel like I’m listening in to a conversation between grad students, drinking a beer on Memorial Terrace, overlooking Lake Mendota.

    I approve!

  16. InsidiousTuna: DUDE IT TOTALLY DOESN’T WORK.

    or something.

  17. I’ve only just begun to look at Politico, but it seems quaint.

    An amicable dialogue between colleagues, to be sure.

    But for Mr. Bull Shit to diss the commenters at Wonkette, was silly.

    It felt a lot like when Tucker Carlson tried to criticize Jon Stewart for
    not being a serious journalist…. Hello, wakey wakey, we are TRYING to be goofballs here.

    Jeez…

  18. Delicious says at 4:48 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    facehead: I think he was just joking about the commenters.

    But I do suck.

  19. Kev-O-Tron says at 4:53 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Delicious: I believe you are correct. His snark levels are not quite Wonkette/Jedi level yet.

    And yea, I suck azz too.

  20. InsidiousTuna says at 4:59 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    tunamelt: Works for some of us. Your intertubes are tied.

  21. mr.november says at 5:03 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Wonkette is like a treefort built for clever liberals. Politico a place where Republicans show their true colors. Both are pretty hilarious… Kind of like switching between MSNBC and Faux Noise.

  22. Delicious, Kev-O-Tron, Ben Smith: I missed the snark factor completely.

    Damn I suck!

  23. Dear Mr. Smith, you’ve won a special luxury trip to Sana’a Yemen. We look forward to picking you up shortly and introducing you to some friend of ours once you arrive.

  24. capitol hillbilly says at 5:10 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Every day until November 4, a series of writers and thinkers will discuss the election over instant messenger for nymag.com … Mr. Layne, are you a writer or a thinker?

  25. InKnockYouUs says at 5:12 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    tunamelt: you just press “return” wow I am so net savvy!

  26. That was a good read; there were two sane people in that conversation. Rare.

  27. ladymacbeth says at 5:27 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    wheelie: yeah, but WHICH two?

  28. Suck in what respect, Charlie?

    K.L.: We ban about a dozen commenters a day, for various crimes against humor and decency.

    Oh, the humanity.

  29. Naked Bunny with a Whip says at 5:50 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    I want Ben Smith to spank me some more, please. *pants from exertion*

  30. Canuckledragger says at 5:55 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Well if anybody knows about sucking, it’s Benji Smith. Even his faux-etched avatar is covered in McCain’s nutsack lint.

    And I’d tell him so in his own comments section, but that would mean going there and reading more of his “literary” sucking.

    Nope.

  31. I was totally distracted by the shoe ad. What was this about?

  32. loquaciousmusic says at 7:23 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    K.L.: We ban about a dozen commenters a day, for various crimes against humor and decency.

    No, you ban one commenter a dozen times a day. His name is TonyTheTiger.

  33. ITS NOT FUNNY TO MAKE FUN OF THE COMMENTERS THAT ARE WORKING TO REVEAL OBAMAS TRUE MUSLIN ROOTS WHEN WE ARE ALL ENSLAVED BY THE NORTHAMERICANUNION YOU WILL ALL BE SORRY!!!!!!!!

  34. Suck? Sure.

    …and yet why no criticism for those of us who can’t go a single post without a typo? Hmm.

  35. loquaciousmusic says at 9:31 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Hey, I love me some CHAT ROOM ACTION:

    http://wonkette.chatango.com/

    I am a Republican Senator.

  36. InsidiousTuna says at 9:39 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    loquaciousmusic: HAH

    But really, everyone, come join in the fun. It’s like liveblogging ALL THE TIME.

  37. Lionel Hutz Esq. says at 9:59 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    They were often abusive, but at least vaguely reality-based.

    I don’t see why as a commenter I should be held to a higher standard that John McCain.

  38. edgydrifter says at 10:58 pm, September 23rd, 2008

    Fuck, I suck so bad I probably meta suck. If I knew what the fuck meta meant. Damn, now I suck even more. I is l33t ubersuck.

  39. hedgewitch says at 12:49 am, September 24th, 2008

    Nice to know Ben realizes the buttugliness of the politico comments. Occasionally I foolishly attempt to read them but then I come here, where everybody sucks instead.

    Politico comment of the day:[i]Obama, Ahmadinejad and all you liberal godless baby-killers will all go to hell.[/i] (As long as this commentor has been swallowed whole by the Rapture and will not be there to greet me I’m good with that.)

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