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Oooh, Barack Obama put out a TUFF ad today calling John McCain’s terrible lies “dishonorable.” This is a code word designed to set off sensors in John McCain’s brain and make him lose his Legendary Temper, because he cares so much about honor that he finds it dishonorable to be asked to define it. The point is, this ad, like pretty much every Obama ad we’ve seen, is lame.
Now granted, your average Educated Elite Wonkette reader is not the demographic that Barack Obama needs to go after, and maybe independent voters in swing states will be very impressed with Barack Obama’s tough and macho ability to rustle up a few quotes from various news outlets. The next thing you know the ever-helpful Democratic Party will start a Web page cataloging all of John McCain’s awful lies, so that swing voters will be impressed with their ability to compile other things, too! Jesus Christ, Democrats! Showing that you are a “fighter” does not mean showing that you can collect quotes.
“Honor” ad via TPM Election Central
Count the Lies [McCainPedia]
Deception is all he has left.
Well, deception, Sarah Palin and the Bitters. BTW, did they darken his skin?
Sticks and stones…
quotes from the librul media no less. now, a quote from a college football coach or a Nascar driver might carry a bit more weight.
I really wish I could travel back in time and stop myself from reading books growing up so I could judge advertisements like this from a non-elitist perspective.
I actually thought it was pretty good…especially the Deception line.
Fuck Honor.
I’d plaster that motherfucker Phil Gramm’s face all over the TV with the words “JOHN MCCAIN’S ECONOMIC ADVISER” and tell the story of how Phil Gramm opened up this pandora’s box of fiscal deregulation mixed in with speculatory dumbassery to create the US America meltdown (I know they’ll try, but how can you deny something with your name on it aka the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?) Photos of John McCain hugging Phil, going to golf with Phil, having dinner with Phil. Tie him in the “minds” of the US American voter that John McCain will not continue Phil Gramm’s policies but also have butt secks with him too.
Aw gee, leave him his quotes. What is he gonna do? Challenge McCain to a duel?
It is better than the ad making fun of McCain for being old. But be fair to Obama, the only way his ads could match the “toughness” of McCain’s ads would be for Obama to lie about McCain. Judging the toughness of ads is difficult in the context of an election in which McCain called Obama a pedophile.
Best ad so far is Planned Parenthood asking why John McCain was apparently attacking Obama for wanting to make our children safer from child molesters.
http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/campaigns/282.htm
But they are a super-tough PAC, not the Democratic Party, who are apparently required by law to preface each statement with how AWSUM and HONRABLE John McCain is.
I don’t know why Hopey just doesn’t string a bunch of clips coming from Walnuts’ own mouth. Good lord, the script writes itself. You could get some whackadoodle from DailyKos to do it (it’s probably already been done). I mean the amount of material is endless (from Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran to the clip about why Viagra should be covered by health insurance companies & not birth control to Walnuts saying TODAY in FL the fundamentals of the economy are strong). I don’t know how much Axelrod & Plouffe are making, but I’m giving him this info for free!
Actually, that is Hopey’s best ad so far. And dipshit WALNUTS just said this morning that the fundamentals of the economy are ’strong’. The old man is out to lunch. Does he not pay attention to the news anymore? Oh wait, reality has a ‘librul’ bias. Silly me. I’m surprised he isn’t advising people to buy Lehman Brothers stock.
I saw an ad this morning that just had Obama talking into the camera about his policies. I thought that was effective. If he did that everyday, explaining things like how middle class people will get more from his tax breaks than from McCain, he could penetrate the noise that is cable news and the blogs. He’s got the money to do it. I thought this attack ad was his best, and he should roll them out as needed. But he has to present his case, unfiltered, straight through that TV screen and explain why he is better.
Well, Sara, what does “showing that you are a fighter” mean?
Because he wanted to get honor, McCain tapped Palin.
Also, and this may have already changed, but Obama has to stop honiring McCain’s time as a POW. Ignore it like it never happened. McCain has lost any right of deference on that front.
ManchuCandidate:
…getting filled with Phil.
WadISay: Nope. He’s just a darkie.
When are they going to bust out the Rove quote and WaPo article asking people to quit scaring folks with the economy?
ManchuCandidate: waitasecond…McGramps can golf, but he can’t type due to his FIVE AND A HALF YEARS? Today Show had a comment from McCain’s camp saying it wasn’t nice to make fun of his not being able to send an e-mail…he can’t type due to prison-camp injuries. WTF? He can’t TYPE? I’m not a doctor, but I’m not buying this one AT ALL.
I don’t watch the boobtube, so I rely firmly on the blogosphere to get my dose of political ads. This seems like the best ad from Obama yet, but I still think he can do MUCH better…
Not saying he needs to be more “aggressive” (or more of a “dick”), just smarter, and simpler. Fuck, why the fuck doesn’t he just hire the people from the daily show — they’ve already made his ads for him, why the fuck doesn’t he just pay for that shit and run it. Grr, I’m angry. Any Schmuck with a Mac could have made this ad within a few hours, if not less.
“Grr” I say!
Fucking people with scruples!
I’d pay the maid for the hidden camera pics she took of McCain jerking off to a photo of young Levi. Once Grampa McMunster felt him up at the airport he was h-h-h-hooked.
Hey! The disgusting, unfair repulsiveness of this idea should qualify me for a second look from the recruiters at the McCain campaign! So long, Obamanites!
I’m sure even lukewarm McCain supporters will note that the sources quoted are typically condemned by Republicans as “liberal media.” (I don’t agree, but then, I have all those critical thinking skills ‘n’ stuff.) Similarly, the Planned Parenthood ad that effectively counters McCain’s ad about sex ed will be dismissed because to the brainwashed right, Planned Parenthood = Baby Killers. (Thanks for the link, EnBuenOra: http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/campaigns/282.htm )
Use Karl Rove. Use “survivor” instead of “hero.” Use the PLATFORM, dammit! Let people decide between the better of two sets of plans, not who can stick his tongue out farther when he goes “Naaagh.”
I think this works, because it hits McCain at one of his strengths: honorable service. Not so honorable now, is he?
But the people who think “Planned Parenthood = Baby Killers” were never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever going to vote for Obama.
Texan Bulldoggette: The Daily Show is really good at that, too. The way they edit clips together of him contradicting himself over and over again and parroting Bush would make a really effective campaign ad. Couldn’t they get supporters to submit their own ads via Youtube and then redo them professionally and stick ‘em on the air? Or does that violate some rule or something? Anyway, whoever is making these ads for him now needs to borrow a pair from Hillary.
That said, this one isn’t so bad. It’s the best so far, actually.
We’s Like To Thank You Herbert Hoover!
EnBuenOra: As a typical lib I’ve never understood the Planned Parenthood as babykiller thing. We went there in college for birthcontrol to AVOID babies in the first place.
columnv: ICBMs may fry our skins, but names will never hurt us.
If I were Hopey, I’d just run that table that shows what your tax cut would be under Obama and McCain’s plans. I’d put this up on the screen http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html and say not a damn thing more.
StripesAndPlaids: Yeppers.
EnBuenOra: Pretty good ad. I understand that the PTA was in favor of this sexual predator education, though I got to see George WIll fulminating against it as something the parents should do (though in some of these households, it’s the parents who are doing the abusing)…
Snap? http://www.entertonement.com/clips/25909/Barack-Obama/Barack-Obama-Campaign-Ad/Dishonorable-Ad/Sleaziest-ads-ever
That ad was right on. It uses quote for the narrative and is simple enough for those who actually believe McCain’s crap to understand. Remember this ad isn’t aimed at the “liberal elite’.
TJBeck: Honestly, what 72 year old man wouldn’t try to tap that?
ProgHead777: Seems like MoveOn did that exact thing for the primaries. Don’t know if MoveOn is in the game at this point or not, but, yeah, seems like an easy thing to accomplish. I have no idea why he doesn’t do it!!
EnBuenOra: Ever?
pondscum: Apparently he can’t type due to his FIVE AND ONE HALF YEARS, nor can he lift heavy objects, walk for extended periods, change a light bulb, climb a ladder, cast a fishing rod, sweep the floor, walk the dog, comb his hair, tie his shoes, or smile at an Asian person…
…but he’s able to execute the duties of President just fine. Yessirree, he’s perfectly capable of leaning on a big red button at 3am. In fact, due to his prostate issues he’ll be awake anyway.
I know I’m in Obama’s pocket, but even so, straining all my powers of objectivity, I found this to be a pretty good ad.
What do you want the ad to end with? A quote from Ian McShane saying something like, “John McCain: total cocksucker.” ?
Norbert: Yea. Fucking librul stewpot WaPo!
“Midshipmen are persons of integrity: They stand for that which is right.
They tell the truth and ensure that the full truth is known. They do not lie.
They embrace fairness in all actions. They ensure that work submitted as their own is their own, and that assistance received from any source is authorized and properly documented. They do not cheat.
They respect the property of others and ensure that others are able to benefit from the use of their own property. They do not steal.” USNA Honor Concept
“A Cadet will not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do.” - United States Military Academy
“We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does.” - United States Air Force Academy
Now, y’all who are civilian types may not recognize much of a difference here, but grads from the later two kind of feel that grads of the first get to “quibble” a lot. Ole John could say “he’s not lying” but those pesky ad guys may have just gone a little bitty bit too far and that’s okay.
And yeah, some of us who have this kind of history really are liberals. Sigh.
nyhfrog: In the best all possible worlds, hell yeah. However, being a pragmatic, it wasn’t too bad for Barry’s first real shot.
…ehhhhhh, getting better I guess. How much do these AD companies charge the campaign to make these things? Whatever it is, it is way too much because they can give me a thousand dollars a video camera and some editing software and I would put together a commercial harder hitting than a bottle of tequila on a empty stomach!
ProgHead777: Oooooo. You know, wonkette and Gawker could run a contest like that. YOu guys got enough cheap-ass schwag from the conventions. I’d try my had at making a video for a plastic American flag (made in China) from the Republican Convention.
When the hell are we going to start a 527?
EnBuenOra: …my only issue with the Planned Parenthood Ad is at the end when they show his head shot. I would have used a creepier photo where he looks like one of those dirty old men you see at the public park watching kids play.
Gopherit v2.0: I was going to start a 527, but all of my money was in Lehman Brothers. Guess it’s back to streets begging for weed money!
nyhfrog: YES!
Hunter Gathers: At least you can use your prospectus for rolling paper.
Mara47: You mean they’re NOT baby killers? Shit! I dropped that brat off yesterday for the post-natal abortion. Does this mean he’s coming home? I already gave the toys to charity and turned his room into my new opium den… My girlfriend’s gonna be pissed when she finds out he didn’t actually run away to join the circus.
pondscum: I used to work for a clinic and the protesters outside would hand out literature that said birth control pills kill baby boys and girls. Yep. That’s who were dealing with. Obviously we just need more abstinence-only ed.
spontaneousabortion: I donated to PP in Bristol’s name. Should I send in one for Levi as well?
How about someone re-cuts this ad with Jill Greenberg’s scary McCain photos? Then we’ll be cooking with gas.
shoeho: No, just send him condoms. Lots and lots of condoms. I bet if you sent them general delivery to Wasilla they’d get to him…
Norbert: Actually, he should’ve just quoted Karl Rove who said McCain has gone too far. For some reason the Obama ad people are afraid to have a little fun. If you’re going to attack, I’m a proponent of the carnival theme…have some carny music in the background…show some images of Karl Rove looking like a clown…with a funny narrator’s voice (like the guy from Moulin Rouge) saying, “When Karl Rove says you’ve gone too far, you must be acting like a bearded lady riding a unicorn. John McCain…he has no beard, and Palin’s no unicorn, but that fool is crazy.”
spontaneousabortion: The bitter irony is that those protesters are walkin’ talkin’ advertisements in favor of birth control.
Gopherit v2.0I’m gonna need my prospectus for toilet paper. Besides, I’ve got a whole case of Zig-Zags that I picked up when the going was good. Smoke ‘em if you’ve got ‘em!
spontaneousabortion: Well, they do, assuming you believe life begins at the moment sperm meets egg, and not when the embryo attaches to the uterus.
Believing that tends to go hand-in-hand with believing that the universe is only seven thousand years old, but they are out there, walking around, and voting.
pondscum: If he can’t type, does that mean he can’t write with a pen as well? Is the pen too advanced technology for Walnuts? How do we know he is LITERATE?
Oh the humanity! Has it come to this? Even Barry is sinking into mildly-stinging fact-slinging.
It’s like he’s bringing his slapping glove to a gunfight.
Showing that you are a “fighter” does not mean showing that you can collect quotes. Of course not. Showing that you can collect quotes shows that you can run a blog.
Not a bad ad. You have to understand that apparently ads now days just exist to give cable news something to talk about from 5am to 5pm when they go into entertainment mode. This forces the press, which has been muttering about it anyway, to deal with McCain’s lies. Can’t wait for the first reporter who pushes McCain to defend his worse ads or Palin’s support for the Bridge to Nowhere.
McCain was smart not to try to define “honor”; he knew that he has violated any reasonable definition.
Borat: He can’t fuckin’ type because he was in Vietfuckinam!
I know the country is falling head over Walnuts in love with this old War Fart, but the more I hear him use his 5.5 years as an all-purpose answer to any criticism, the less I respect him and the less I give a flying fuck about his military service.
Godless Liberal: Birth control pills mostly work by preventing ovulation and thickening cervical mucus to block sperm. Oh no, are you one of them??!!!!!!!11111
obfuscator: Why does being in a POW camp make us ignore the fact that he crashed, what, 4 planes before he ended up there? I mean, that’s worse than W’s record in the Texas “National Guard”, right?
RE: the “waaaah” he can’t type, therefore use a computer, because he was in a prison wail:
If Stephen Hawking has figured out a way to use the internet and send email, I’m thinking McCain can as well.
Actually Sara, Wonkette, et al., I couldn’t agree less. I think them shits was right on the money. Calling out those lying republican bitches for what they are, citing some MSM, works by me. I think even Billy Bob Working Class and Plain Jane Soccer Mom is gonna get some of that message. They’ll listen to Time and the WaPo (even if its just E.J.), if not NYT. McMotherfucker and co. are, whoops *were*, running on integrity and honor and the gullible MSM is finally getting around to debunking that laughable myth.
spontaneousabortion: I’m still in favor of a minimum intelligence test to reproduce, or a license of some kind…
I also escorted at a PPFA clinic, where these idiots would bring their KIDS to protest at 5 AM during the winter (Missouri has interesting people). Funny how they never wanted to “adopt” the fetuses themselves, oh no, but they always said adoption was the better choice. Uh huh.
The really funny thing was, though, that most women I talked to going in there just went for check-ups and birth control refills. OH! THE SCANDAL!
voidifaltered: BA-ZING. You win. Or rather, Hawking wins.
obfuscator: country first, motherf*cker!
As long as we’re talking about getting people other than the campaign staff involved in collecting and assembling information to be used against the McCain/Bush crime families and their plan for permanent rule, I am wondering where all of those Obama fans around the world are?
It seems to me that this project could be open-sourced with folks world-wide helping out by mining data and finding people who know the dirt. Someone must have a cache of the Wasilla church videos that have been removed from the church site. I’m sure that there are people with stories to tell about various sleazy McCain behaviors.
This could be a global effort. These people are hiding their records and not being called out. They expect us to buy a pig in a poke.
Ooops, can I say that?
It’s a good start and I’m sure more is coming. I mean he does have to wait for McCain to say something foolish, like he did today about the economy. Some of you sound like you expect Obama to smack McCain with a glove and challenge him to a duel.
StripesAndPlaids: good lord man, these people can’t spell, think hopey is a muslin and like our snowbilly for her chromosomal make-up. do you seriously expect them to understand a chart with THREE columns, some in DIFFERENT colors?
but yeah. for your average wonketteer it’s a fab idea.
spontaneousabortion: If you aren’t supporting Senator Grumpus McJowlsby for President, then you ain’t puttin’ Country First. U-S-A! (repeat 4x)
Someone should totally start a band called Country Fist.
I say this with all due respect for McCain’s service in the military. I am friendly with a few Nam vets and they are still being treated these many years later for PTSD–and they were not POWs…McCain is known on both sides of the aisle to have what these vet pals have: a terrible temper and a readiness to go ballistic. I would love to know if McCain had this anger problem prior to serving in Nam war. I am most uneasy with a guy having control of war and the nuke option if he needs treatment for that which he suffered in the past.
Very good. It’s about time to expose WALNUTS! and his chums for what they really are: a bunch of liars. Go for it, Hussein; go for the jugular.
ManchuCandidate: Yea, tie Phil Gramm to McCains neck like a freakin’ stone and throw it out there. Make Johnny boy drag him around like a dead chicken.
Because Phil slipped that banking act into a bill in the middle of the night. It is a reality that McCain is tied to Phil Gramm forever and ever. BFF!
OzoneTom: I want someone to build an ad around the video of the AIP leader saying Sarah Palin was a member… “Sarah Palin wants to secede from the USA”
nzuckerman: On point.
If you have not seen this about McCain’s medical records, you will want to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvesa49zSIM
Hey McCain - Even Reagan thought glastnost was a good idea.
sati demise: Fuck that… that’s too complicated… just say Gramm was Walnuts’ economic advisor and play the clips of Gramm calling Americans whiners about the economy and saying it’s just a mental recession…
It gladdens my heart, however, to know that the Obama campaign has SO much money, they can put out all the lame ads they want. Hoorah!
I don’t think it’s a great ad, but I think it’s a good ad for the dumb people who like John McCain.
Given the economic meltdown, they need to talk about the keating 5. Hello!!!
I still think he needs to get tougher and simpler as in “John McCain Lied. Period. You can’t believe anything he says. Vote for me, instead. “
Wait till they get meta on McCain’s ass. The ad about McCain lying about telling lies is going to be a killer. It’ll be a quote party all up in this bitch.
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
EnBuenOra: Ah, that LOGIC thing again. I keep forgetting.
SisterTruth: I kinda liked this ad, too. The Dems would be eaten alive if they tried to swiftboat McCain, so they are attacking a different dimension of his vaunted “honor.”
I just wish they would post big ugly pictures of his walnut cheeks, and say “THIS is what you get if you tell lies like John McCain.”
nzuckerman: I would love to know if McCain had this anger problem prior to serving in Nam war.
Didn’t he have the nickname “McNasty” from his skool dayz? I seem to recall that…
Thusly…
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4565619&page=1
ladymacbeth: That’s what I thought, too. Any voter too dumb to understand why voting for McCain is a terrible idea is also too dumb to draw conclusions from a table of facts and figures.
ladymacbeth: I fwded it to all my friends and relations.
Great JoBi speech this morning in MI, by the way. Listed Obiden pros and McPalin cons and really got folks revved-up.
The Dems need to take a page from the successful Repub playbook: attack McCain’s strengths AND his weaknesses.
Newspaper headlines report the following points, while voiceover sez:
John McCain is running for President by hiding his record.
John McCain says he is against government pork barrel policies, yet his past record includes being investigated and censured by the Senate for his involvement in a Savings & Loan scandal, and now his campaign is being run by Washington lobbyists, a fact he tries to hide.
John McCain says because of his own military service, he hates war. Yet John McCain voted for this war under false pretenses and has threatened to invade Iran and Russia, before we’ve even won the current wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. That is a part of his record he’d like to hide.
John McCain has already admitted he doesn’t understand issues dealing with the economy, a fact that he now tries to hide from you. Why? While Wall Street lies in ruins and government is bailing out failed corporations, John McCain says:
[clip of McCain saying: "The fundamentals of our economy are strong."]
John McCain says that he’s a maverick, but ties to hide that he’s voted with George Bush more than 90% of the time.
John McCain says his running mate is a reformer who has experience and was responsible for halting construction on the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ John McCain hides from you the fact that his running mate didn’t reform a thing in Alaska, lobbied hard for the money to build that bridge and kept it, even though the bridge wasn’t built.
John McCain says the ’surge’ in Iraq has worked, yet hides from voters like you the fact that MORE Iraqis are now dying from sectarian violence than before the ’surge’ began.
And you could go on and on, compiling a ‘greatest hit’ compendium of every sleazy, underhanded bullshit statement Juan’s ever made.
The Grande Finale:
John McCain: You can RUN, but you can’t HIDE.
I’m Barack Obama, and I approve of this ad.
Canuckledragger: If the Dems really were to “take a page from the successful Repub playbook” they would swiftboat McCain–attack him at his greatest strongpoint: his POW experience. There is plenty of dirt there to be dug. Click here. Of course, this is risky strategery.
SisterTruth: You nailed it exactly. It’s a 10 second ad, so they could probably buy 3 times as many of them as well. I don’t know how that works.
re: this ad - I saw it with the sound off (confession: I am probably nearly as computer illiterate as John McCain) and thought even at that it was pretty effective. Sure, the pigfuckers will say “liberal media” but the pigfuckers are only 28% That vast middle ground of Americans, who get their political information from the last ad they saw, don’t look at the sources of the quotes at all. They don’t know the Washington Post from the Washington Times. A quote is a quote, and now that the word “lie” is out there, let’s repeat it until it sinks in.
It’s like a cock fight between unarmed peckers or something like that. Ah. Unbeaked, unwinged, whatevs.
You know, my father was a career army officer and fought in WWII and Korea. He always seemed to feel it was shameful to have been a POW. He certainly never saw them as war heroes (unless they escaped or died trying.) Of course he was in the infantry where they actually faced their enemy not in an airplane miles above the ground.
The comparison of Obama to Gretzky ain’t your ordinary sports metaphor… Graphictruth: He Shoots!!! He Scores!!!
If someone thinks this is worth running with farther that I can take it, please steal the meme! (an HT would be nice.) If you want graphics - ask me nicely and tell me what you intend to do with it; I’ll come up with something to fill the hole you have. (BTW, I have a version of this saved at 55 inches. Kinda just the right size to show up on CNN. :> )