Just when you think nothing can top the antics of Paultards and Hilltardz, the Naderites of Elections Past are back to show you how it’s done. Despite being completely ignored by all media, Ralph Nader gets 6% of the vote in a new CNN poll. WTF?
In a no-longer-hypothetical matchup between the various presumptive or official nominees, here’s how it goes:
Barack Obama, 47%
John McCain, 43%
Ralph Nader, 6%
Bob Barr, 2%
The addition of Hillary to the Obama ticket would supposedly give Obama another 3%, but the pollsters say it’s silly for voters to guess how they’ll feel about Hillary (or anything, really) five months from now.
So, uh, Go Ralph! Let’s get McCain elected and finally have our Nuclear Apocalypse. After all, don’t we deserve to be terribly burnt to death? Greater cause, etc.?
Poll finds electorate split between Obama, McCain [CNN]
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Did you know that Al Gore is secretly funding Nader? Its true.
This man is truly a supremely deluded and egotistical piece of crap. Is his line that there is no difference between Obama and McCain like the last go round? If people vote for him and believe that, they all deserve to be shipped off to Paultardia with the Paultards. They all deserve each other.
Holy crap. I don’t know who should die first, Nader or the people supporting him. Has anyone told him “supporters” that Radiohead isn’t showing up this year?
Nader = Party pooper.
Well, I’m voting for LaRouche, so there, Nader fans. Top that crazy.
Who is Bob Barr… is that the guy that hosts the Price is Right? I wouldn’t vote for that guy even if he is younger than McCain.
Holy Crap. I don’t know who should die first, Nader or the people supporting him. Has anyone told his supporters that Radiohead’s not going to be there this year?
Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to vote Nader NOW? Jesus fucking Christ.
Insane at any speed.
Nader doesn’t have Secret Service, does he?
And if anyone finds that offensive, it’s not what I intended. I’ve always admired the Kennedy family.
How many ballots will Nader even be on? He doesn’t have a party’s backing. Let’s get Cynthia McKinney in these polls.
(The Antient Order of Gormogons is backing Barr.)
Isn’t Nader like 15 years older than McSame?
[re=11020]tunamelt[/re]: A Nader/LaRouche ticket would be FANTASTIC! I would pay money to watch those debates. I loves me some crazy.
Actually, Obama does better in the poll with Nader than without.
Wait wait wait. So, in an Obama-McCain-Nader-Barr match-up, Obama wins by 4. Without Nader, Obama wins by 3. So 1% of people would only vote for Obama if Nader is in the race? If the Obama victory margin is actually *higher* with Nader in the race, does that mean…people are somehow torn between McCain and Nader? Does Not Compute. If I were a robot, this would make my head explode. Maybe the closer result was for no Nader *and* no Barr? That’d make a tiny bit more sense.
Oh, the sampling error is 4.5%, so Nader really has anywhere from 1.5%-10.5%. Comforting, no?
According to the poll, half of Nader’s supporters will vote McCain should Nader drop out, proving that exactly 3% of all Americans will automatically vote for the most senile old man, regardless of their campaign platform.
The fact that Bob Barr polled at 2% shows that this data is crap. The only people voting for Barr are bitter Paultards who finally caught onto the fact that their man will not be turning the blimp into Air Force One…
I have a really hard time believing Nader outpolls Ron Paul.
Maybe he’s stealing the crazy vote from Barr.
[re=11040]Mediahohoho[/re]: Doesn’t look like RP was included in the poll. Wouldn’t surprise me if a sizable percentage of those who went for Nader were paultards.
Well look om the bright side, if they make John McCain win, all the female HillTards and NaderTards will walk around with the following slogan on their forheads:
My Pussy officially belongs to John McWalnuts and the Supreme Court Judges!!
Okay, so far we have McKinney, Nader, Barr, LaRouche (I’m assuming), and some douche from the Constitution party (Alan Keyes)? Fuck it, let’s get Bloomberg-Lieberman in there on an Independent Jews platform, Ron Paul, and Hillary on the Suffragette ticket. We know the Paultards and Hilltards are going to write in their candidates anyway.
Bob Barr has this election in the bag.
[re=11037]m_supercomputer[/re]: I actually read a quote in the paper Sunday from a Clinton supporter who would rather “be killed and slit my wrists” than vote for Obama, and she was deciding between MCCain and Nader. This is highly-developed logic and reasoning you see here, folks.
Maybe Obama will ask Nader to be vice president? That would mess
with people’s heads.
Bob Barr is a nasty little shit with a black mustache and all the Hillary supporters who won’t vote for Obama should vote for him.
[re=11046]Doglessliberal[/re]: Someone needs to tell her that, unlike Obama who’s only a secret Arab, Ralph Nader is actually an Arab.
/shrug I guess there goes another of my hopes for cool sounding campaigns….
No Obama-Nader…
And I still can’t find anybody named Sinladen, I really want to see bumper stickers that say Obama-Sinladen
they’re all voting for his “hot for DC” VP, Matt Gonzales!
http://meshsf.com/admin/files/mattelectionnight.jpg
(but ok, hot for DC, but not that hot for San Francisco)
[re=11034]Cicada[/re]: Michael Moore came to my campus and spoke my freshman year, like four years ago, and there were these protesters who had signs that said: “Dick Cheney Eats Live Lesbian Babies.”
That has nothing to do with this, except that these are the people who are voting for Nader.
Looking on the bright side, by which I mean that last flash before we’re burnt to a crisp, a Nuclear Apocalypse would mean that I wouldn’t have to pay off my student loans or credit card debt, which really means that Nadar has my best economic interests at heart.
[re=11020]tunamelt[/re]: I’m not sure there is much crazier…ugh.
My sister met Nader the other day, and I told her she should have kicked him, but apparently she didn’t get the chance. And he was also mean. The end.
[re=11051]jagorev[/re]: But Obama cheated and kept Hillary from winning what was owed to her (that’s a paraphrase, the real quote was even better). We are not dealing with people for whom facts have much relevance, unfortunately.
[re=11025]Dave J.[/re]: Aha! He’s competing with Barr for the stupid vote.
…Im not sure what is more disturbing; the fact that 6% of the population would vote for Nader or the fact that 43% of the nation are masochistic shit for brains!
[re=11046]Doglessliberal[/re]: Another HUGE step forward for modern feminism… instead of being angry with the idiots in the media and fringe elements who actually DID act in a sexist manner against Hillz, lets blame it on Obama, simmer with anger (cuz everyone knows how impotent rage accomplishes worlds of good), and then vote to further the destruction of our own cause.
Hillary-math has poisoned the feminist mind…
Just when I thought it was safe to put all my hatin’ on McHateful.
I cannot possibly run a war of hatred on two fronts. This shall not stand.
Arrgh.
this election cycle is seeing an impressive crop of Crazy, and its not even harvest time yet
All these poll numbers will change dramatically once Vermin Supreme officially enters the fray.
Vermin Supreme Commander In Chief ’08!
[re=11060]AngryBlakGuy[/re]:
“The National Comorbidity Survey, which uses DSM-III-R criteria, discovered that 5.8 percent of males and 1.2 percent of females showed evidence of a lifelong chance of obtaining the (Antisocial Personality) disorder”
Hence, 7% of the population are probably psychopaths. Granted, most are probably Paultards.
[re=11078]TGY[/re]: or in positions with the Bush Administration.
How comes Ron Paul isn’t mentioned in that poll? Do we need any more evidence of a massive conspiracy?
NoWireHangers…that last flash before we’re burnt to a crisp…
remember not to look directly at the flash lest you damage
your eyeballs. make one of those cardboard reflective thingees
like a solar eclipse viewer that nobody uses, but might
be helpful in this other scenerio.
just tryin’ to help.
Hey, Ken, you thought McCain was a maverick eight years ago so is there a chance that eight years from now you won’t feel so smitten with “Hopey” (as if you really are now, anyway)? There are bigger let-downs than being burnt to death, like faith in the Democrats.
[re=11049]upperleft[/re]: Aren’t most Hilz supporters nasty little shits with black mustaches as well?
Ralph Nader did a lot of good for this country, which is why is pains me so much to see his ego place him in a position where he would rather see four more years of disaster instead of taking a chance that Obama and Democratic Congress might be able to make a difference.
[re=11049]upperleft[/re]: Maybe Obama should ask Bob Bar to be his VP. That would really mess with people’s heads.
I’m holding out until Obama’s convention speech. I have a feeling Nader’s numbers will drop and Hopey’s will rise after that. If that doesn’t happen…gonna get a little pissed off.
Maybe 6% were confused by the pollster, and actually were members of Elderly Jews for Buchanan? I wonder if the numbers are more sane if we exclude Florida and Michigan.
[re=11101]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]:
I’m with you, there. I voted for him once (cuz in NY it made no dfference), but he’s under my bus this time. All politicians have the ego gene, but Nader’s is officially out of control.
Donate to Bob Barr. He’s the great white hope.
At this rate Obama will win the presidency with 25% of the vote.
Ralph Nader For President.
This message brought to you by the Committee To Elect John McCain.
Maybe Nader will die before the election like McCain.
[re=11032]CrunchyKnee[/re]: John McCain was born August 29, 1936. Ralph Nader was born February 27, 1934, making him 2 years, 6 months older than McCain. Either one would be the oldest man ever elected President–McCain at 72, Nader three months short of 75. I wouldn’t bet money on either one finishing his first term in office.
I can see the geezer voters rallying in Central Park: “The whole world is creaking! The whole world is creaking!” A legion of wheelchairs and oxygen tanks rolling down 5th Avenue like the U.S. tanks thundering into Baghdad! Let the youngsters tremble in fear! Get your sorry butts over to Iraq and suck up them bullets like a good Amurrrican!
They don’t call it “ralphing” for nothing; he can have that effect on people. And the last thing a White House needs is a humorless tenant.
On the bright side, not all of that six percent solution is coming from the Obama direction, and hopefully not all will stay Quixotic with Ralph if the Obama-McCain race is a photo finish.
If Hils adds 3% by being Obama’s VP, I say, screw it, it’s the best 3% you’ll ever throw away.
[re=11055]tunamelt[/re]: I was in a liberal college town over the weekend and saw a Nader/Fernandez sign on someone’s line. The only reason I didn’t let loose with a string of expletives is that my kids were in the car with me.
I want to draw a comic book about Ralph Nader and a group of little kids solving mysteries and crises around the world. I would call it “Ralph and the Nader Tots” and it would also feature an anthropomorphic gerbil named “Harry Nades” and they would travel by balloon. First I need to get good at drawing hands and faces, then I’m really going to do this. I’m already real good at drawing balloons.
[re=11176]econdave[/re]: It’s Nader/Gonzalez, but don’t worry, we’re all the same shade of shit brown to you, whitey.
[re=11037]m_supercomputer[/re]: You’re right. According to Nate Silver, here’s how the Nader syphon breaks down.
[re=11016]Doglessliberal[/re]: :::whispers::: Don’t speak of him out loud, or he’ll make Hillary his VP!
[re=11061]Shypixel[/re]: Wow, just wow.
Did you ever hear that during WWII, Chinese Americans had to wear an “I’m Chinese” button to they won’t be confused for Japanese. Something tells me I’m going to have to do that if we get a McCain Administration.
“I voted for Obama.”
my mom donated a grand to Nader’s campaign…he’s been all over the place in PA (cuz we have shitty ballot rules)
The same 47% who are voting for Barry would also like the 6% supporting Nader to move to Canada, for everyone. That or die, your call.
OK, look, for all practical purposes I’m a hippy.
But look, you unwashed-tribal tattooed-dreadlocked-jam-band-tards–don’t vote for ralph fucking nader, capiche?
We don’t have four more years to fuck around. You know how fucking hot outside it is now? You know all the people who don’t hate us yet (all six of them)?
If it gets one fucking degree hotter or any less hospitable to travel because of you Nadiristas, Crow T. Robot is gonna be seriously pissed.
It’s fish or cut bait at this point–and a vote for ralph is a vote saying that you’d rather stand on principle than save lives–or, hell, keep my non-air condidtioned ass from slowly melting into a puddle of silver goo.
Is McCain trying for his cool guy with sunglasses geting out of SUV on tarmac pose in the picture on the CNN story, somehow it doesn’t work with a his withered old white hands and half smirk.
It almost looks like he’s gonna blow away and his aid is reaching out to hold him up.
Is it really wind in DC?… or wherever McCain’s secret rejuvenation spa is, South America, I presume.
People who follow the teachings of Christ will most likely vote for Nader, again. It’s not always about winning on earth. It’s about following the laws of Heaven, regardless of whatever sins others may commit.
Bottom line: we’re fucked.
[re=11275]Whore Diamond in the Rough[/re]: No, the fascists will just beat the shit out of you for wearing an Obama button during the Walnuts era.
[re=11386]Big Al1317[/re]: Meh, so far we’re only getting fisted. We won’t have to bend over until he finds another Corvair.
Why is “Paultard” pluralized with an “S”, while “Hilltard” is pluralized with a “Z”? Does the “Z” indicate additional ‘tardiness?
[re=11427]Jewdishoowary Square[/re]: Nah, just shows who the world would rather but cutting like logs… or is that sleeping through? *shrug*
Ack, make that but = be
If Ralph holds on to this number at the General Election, he gets to do it again in 2012 with federal money!
[re=11417]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: Stuff his 6% ass into a 1961 Chevy Corvair, with its “highly responsive” swing axle rear suspension, going 100 mph, on the Blue Ridge Parkway.
Unsafe at any Electoral College tally…
No R3v0lution? FIRE UP THE BLIMP!
Hopefully, neither one will survive to the election.
Since you don’t seem to be adverse to name calling, i.e. Paultards and Hilltardz, MORON, did you even read your own link?
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijClHoidEl8XEJMJoUooHU1R_nmgD914PTMGA
Barack Obama, 47 percent
John McCain, 43 percent
Ralph Nader, 6 percent
“OF INTEREST:
If Nader, the independent, is not included, Obama’s lead is 49 percent to 46 percent.”
So with Nader in the race, Obama has a four point spread, with Nader NOT in the race, Obama has a three point spread. How does that compute into your idiotic spoiler rant/theory? Here’s a tip on blogging. Don’t link to sources that refute your own points.
Survival hrm where’s that Train I need to hide!
also try to read your posts BEFORE pushing enter
this thing only lets me post ONE COMMENT and I can’t
correct Typos like Constition=Constitution
[re=11043]Gopherit v2.0[/re]: “Doesn’t look like RP was included in the poll. Wouldn’t surprise me if a sizable percentage of those who went for Nader were paultards.”…..my thinking exactly…
In addition to being a humorless egotist whose grandstanding helped give us the reign of Emperor W, he is the worst public speaker I have ever seen. Time for him to keel over now, so we can remember the good part of his life and work.
regisgoat,
Interesting politics. Wish for your opponent’s death. Are you sure you are in the right country? It’s funny watching you folks complain in one hand that Nader is too irrelevant to include in the debates then lay the blame of the entire election on him for being too relevant.
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