TOP  12:06 pm June 7, 2008

Hillary Clinton’s Late For Her Own Graduation!

by Jim Newell

Welcome to Wonkette’s Hillary Clinton Graduation Pool Party! We have many “hot dogs” for you to eat, and Miller High Life for the adults. But oh, where is the graduate herself, Hillary Clinton? According to the teevee, she is “at least 10 minutes late.” And she’s supposed to deliver the commencement address, just like she did at Wellesley in 1969, a speech bursting with such Boomer idealism and brilliance that it made her national headlines. And then she married Bill Clinton, a shit. Let’s liveblog Hillary’s second commencement address, in which she will endorse Barack Obama, and start her Second Life.

12:09 — Now she is at least 30 minutes late. MSNBC has a camera on her car, in the driveway of some rich neighborhood. It’s funny! Keith Olbermann is very upset about the lateness, because he didn’t prepare enough snide comments to last another half-hour. Maybe he should use the time to apologize for going overboard and making ladies support John McCain. Maybe Keith supports John McCain! Tim Russert is talking about Samuel Tilden, another epic loser in American history.
12:12 — Ha ha, Ron Allen, who covers Clinton for MSNBC along with Andrea Mitchell, says Clinton is late today “because she’s always late,” and then he bitches for a while about how she’s late to everything. Ron Allen will miss his job!
12:15 — Hey, we know why Hillary is late. She’s sucking her Crown Royal bottle, staring at her Valium bottle on the coffee table, wondering if she should take a second, thinking, “How the fuck did I lose to this?”:

12:20 — Goddamnit Keith, can you please stop making pantsuit jokes on national teevee?
12:22 — Chris Matthews is talking about “The Nut,” meaning the “nut graf” in journalism speak, but also meaning “Truck Nutz.”
12:23 — Ooh, Rachel Maddow! Hey Rachel: big sale on truck nutz.
12:25 — Pat Buchanan says exiting a race is hard, and he lost, what, four? But he can’t imagine what it’s like to lose to a Negro.
12:26 — Ooh, Eliot Spitzer and his wife Silda get in the car! Oh wait, that’s Hillary’s car, it’s moving! (To Denver).
12:30 — A bald man says that they will probably make Monday or Tuesday night at the convention “Hillary Night.” Every night is Hillary Night! Oh God, now he says there might be “Clintonian Wiggle Room” in this speech. Meaning, Hillary is going to try to declare Thursday night at the convention “Hillary Night.”
12:35 — While we wait, check out this ad I saw on Obama-loving Drudge Report last night:

Is that the Brer Rabbit? “Th-at’s Not Ch-ange We-ee Can Be-lie-ee-ve In.”
12:38 — What is the National Building Museum? It sounds Sexist, and looks Fascist. Bueno!
12:40 — Obama is playing golf right now, in Chicago. It’s the beginning of the end.
12:41 — There she is, getting out of her gas-guzzling SUV with her family. Her outfit looks very dark! It is 400 degrees in Washington, D.C. today, so pit-sweat could be an issue, even if she’s indoors.
12:45 — Receiving line: Bill hugs an old man and OH MY GOD TALKS TO A HOT BLONDE AND KISSES HER CHEEK. Todd Purdum of Vanity Fair, where are you for this!
12:46 — She’s starting. Let’s see what she has to say.
12:47 — Aww, she’s already crying. We believe it this time.
12:48 — She thanks her fans for arguing with their neighbors.
12:49 — And the people who contributed.
12:49 — And the Moms and Dads who moved to Outer Space just to canvass, for her.
12:50 — Ha ha, of course, the people who gave up their trip to Disneyworld (Florida!) for which they’d been saving “for two years” to campaign for her (after she lost) in Pennsylvania.
12:51 — She thanks The Gays, like Harriet Christian.
12:53 — Oh here it comes.
12:53 — She says let’s make Barack Obama President of the United States! Let’s say, 30% boos, 70% cheers?
12:54 — She has seen Obama in 22 debates, and 4 years in the Senate, and he’s sump’m else, he’s great, he’s been a wonderful part of this “race.” Ha ha, just kidding.
12:56 — Man, she is speaking about 25% faster than usual. “We’re all Democrats want health care economy end Iraq lower gas save money buy prescriptionsdrugsfoodleftoverinsurance.”
12:58 — “I’ve been involved in politics or public life in one way or another for four decades.” What an achievement! I’m working on my third.
12:59 — She says how shitty Democrats have been at winning the White House, except for Bill (who never won a majority of the popular vote).
1:01 — There it is: she says “Yes We Can!” No smiles, but who can blame her? She’s so used to “Yes We Will.”
1:02 — Ooh, Huma shot!
1:02 — We have to elect Barack Obama president! She’s saying it repeatedly! Ways to go, Hilz.
1:04 — Yikes! “Can an African-American be president? We have to answer that one!” That would be the “Clintonian Wiggle Room,” but whatever.
1:05 — She wants to build an America that respects all Women. She ran as a Mother who Worries About Her Daughter (who lives a comfortable life destroying the world at a hedge fund).
1:07 — It is unremarkable to have a woman run for president, she says, and “that is truly remarkable.” It is! Plenty of ladies can run, in any election, forever.
1:09 — Ha ha, WTF? She says “The fiftieth woman on earth is in space,” or something? Then she says we can shoot women into space. Maybe Hillary should consid– too easy.
1:11 — Hey, Ted Danson, with a Great White Beard. Oh, Civil Rights for blacks, too! She will give Obama his Civil Rights, by shooting his wife into Space.
1:13 — Did she say HillaryClinton.com? I was daydreaming about shooting various women into Space (the White House).
1:14 — Ha ha, wait, “shooting” — just realized that.
1:15 — She’ll go back to doing what she did “long before” the cameras came around. Uh, attending high school?
1:16 — She’s done.
1:17 — OMG she’s done.
1:17 — !!!
1:17 — ???
1:17 — Well, so much for those 17 months and/or 8 years.
1:18 — That was a nice speech. It was “striated,” the teevee people say. You can think a lot about why Hillary lost, and we have, and everyone has. But to the two or three Hillary supporters who read this site: whatever you consider Barack Obama’s chances of losing this election, those are the same chances of Hillary Clinton being elected in 2012. Good god, we’ve just had a cabal of crooks take over the White House for eight years. Monsters! This ’90s-’00s Democratic party, this “more Republican than the Republicans” triangulation at the heart of Clintonism? We don’t want it. It’s trash. Let’s run through the front door, now. And if the country isn’t ready for it, well, Clinton can have whatever she wants in 2012.

 
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HairyIckey June 7, 2008 at 12:10 pm

12:10PM, and she still hasn’t left the house.

Methinks she’s practicing “Point point, Clap clap” in the mirror one more time…

…and pounding some Crown Royal, of course.

user-of-owls June 7, 2008 at 12:12 pm

Yowzer, is she gonna do the whole Evita-on-the-balcony thing? Don’t snarl for me West Virginia…

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:12 pm

Olbermann just estimated a 12:30 start. He didn’t specify a.m. or p.m.

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 12:12 pm

Miller High Life? Bah. It feels like more of a tequila day.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:12 pm

Nothing’s working. I suck. I tried msnbc, cnn, and then I caved and went to hillaryclinton.com. that worked, but not the live stream, just her talking about how she talked to people. All of whom put their hopes completely in her. The fools.

cs11 June 7, 2008 at 12:12 pm

totally hungover.

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 12:13 pm

Heh. “at least 10 minutes late.”

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 12:14 pm

I’d hit it.

weaselplasty June 7, 2008 at 12:14 pm

personally, i think harriet christianson (sp?) should give the opening. nothing says unity like batshit crazy.

Amaraya June 7, 2008 at 12:15 pm

Maybe someone should have called at 3am to remind her.

Son of Mark Penn June 7, 2008 at 12:15 pm

She’s probably busy putting on makeup and trying on pant suits. This is why we can’t have a woman president.

weaselplasty June 7, 2008 at 12:16 pm

[re=9906]graceless[/re]: you might have to download java or some computer crap like that. i don’t really know how it works, i’m thinking gerbils.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 12:16 pm

And of course, “Wonder Woman” has found a bloated corpse in the Potomac. Symbolism for the day? No. It was Mark Penn, and the bloating was pre-death.

grobby22 June 7, 2008 at 12:16 pm

Hilz intervention/exorcism just ended, she is now ready to accept that she may not win this thing. She will instead run for Head Salad bar bouncer at Denny’s

weaselplasty June 7, 2008 at 12:16 pm

[re=9915]Amaraya[/re]: ay-ohhh.

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 12:16 pm

As someone said in the other comment thread, “Mark Penn’s head is stuck in the banister and they’re looking for the Crisco.”

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 12:17 pm

[re=9906]graceless[/re]: MSNBC’s got a link at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22887392#22887392

which you reach by clicking on the MSNBC home page. Or for those (like me) too cheap for even basic cable, it’s on CSPAN, although you have to listen to a voice-over of their idiot callers.

weaselplasty June 7, 2008 at 12:17 pm

jim, will the awesome liz glover be documenting the chaos and carnage to engulf dc after the speech?

weaselplasty June 7, 2008 at 12:19 pm

[re=9922]InsidiousTuna[/re]: thank you, i’ll be here all night. please tip your waitress.

FlipOffResearch June 7, 2008 at 12:20 pm

This just in Hillarity is locked in her bedroom surrounded by empty Crown Royal bottles and on a bawling jag.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 12:20 pm

C’mon Hilz, reach waaaay deep inside and do something gracious. You can do it! I’ll even forgive you for making me watch Keith Olbermann on Saturday.

soymocha June 7, 2008 at 12:20 pm

What I called yesterday:

“What’s the over/under that by the end of tonight, Politico’s lead feature will be ‘Five Things to Watch for in Hillary’s Speech’? B/c they seem hellbent on refracting this entire campaign through their ‘Five Things’ prism. (‘Five Things Bill Clinton Should Watch for as He’s Stomped in the Lobby of His Harlem Office’.)”

Today’s story:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10911.html

She’s 20 minutes late so far. She just knows that “October surprise” will leak by 12:30 EST.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm

I feel like I’m cheating on msnbc, but cnn is just working for me. Terry just showed. They’re screaming.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm

Did Keith just say “hurried activity in pantsuits”?!?! He is the best jackass ever.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm

[re=9922]InsidiousTuna[/re]:

She’d take the opportunity to slap him about 50 times while giving him a refresher on how delegates are apportioned in the Democratic primary process.

HerExcellency June 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm

Oh God. Keith made a pantsuit joke. This campaign has to stop. Now.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm

Apparently, “Clinton time” is a minimum of 30 minutes late according to Mr. Blitzer.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 12:22 pm

Did Olbermann make a freaking pantsuit remark! STFU, man!

Amaraya June 7, 2008 at 12:22 pm

Maybe if she waits long enough, Obama will just give up.

LemonPie June 7, 2008 at 12:22 pm

12:25 and still in the house. Is she going to call in sick for her concession?

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:25 pm

[re=9923]V572625694[/re]: thanks, I’ve done the msnbc one a bunch of times, today it won’t show me the stupid commercial. Although, oddball was easy, go figure. CNN’s just showing the crowd, how many people do you suppose are there? Is it climate controlled?

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:26 pm

[re=9935]Black Cat[/re]: That’s funny. CPT is only 21 minutes late. Don’t ask me how I know…

weaselplasty June 7, 2008 at 12:26 pm

she’s leaving her house…mark penn is safe and asleep.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 12:26 pm

Watching motorcade footage is thrilling, really, really thrilling.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 12:26 pm

Watching this coverage, I can only assume that Hillary Clinton has stabbed her white ex-wife and possible lover. I just can’t wait for Bill’s frantic 911 call:

“You know who I am, dammit! This is B.C. dammit!”

Indi June 7, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Pantsuit jokes are OUR jokes, Keith! You back off!! You get paid to crack wise about more lofty things.

Big Liver June 7, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Testing 1, 2, 3

bitbull June 7, 2008 at 12:27 pm

she will wait till 3 a.m., i guess. just to show she´s ready.

Indi June 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm

[re=9937]Amaraya[/re]: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA….

Yes, When WILL Obama Concede?? (Parts 1-4 now available on Hillaryis44 for those whose severe schizophrenia prevents them from understanding reality from fantasy)

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm

Okay, I’m bored.

SuperRounder June 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm

[re=9945]graceless[/re]: Damnit you beat me to it. Probably because I’m running on…nevermind.

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm

Chronic tardiness is arrogant, inconsiderate. But Ted’n’Mary are there! Yea!

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Now I’m getting from msnbc tell me that due to usage restrictions they can’t show it to me? What’s up with that?

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 12:31 pm

“we’ll do it Live!” if you show up, Hilz!

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:31 pm

I’m going back to cnn.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 12:31 pm

[re=9945]graceless[/re]: McCain time is any time he damn pleases, because when McCain was growing up, we didn’t have time. You had to guess when you were supposed to be someplace.

In a Jar June 7, 2008 at 12:32 pm

I wish Jonathan Alter would put those last few hairs on his forehead out of their misery.

Paultardville June 7, 2008 at 12:32 pm

You know, Bobby Kennedy once was late to an event in June.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:32 pm

…damn, Hillary was half-way “Hitable”

cracksmoke June 7, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Terr-bear is probably dancing around naked with his bottle of rum at this point and preventing her from going on stage to concede since he still thinks she is the nominee.

Chris June 7, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Only elitists own clocks.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:34 pm

LOL at “It’s Moving (to Denver.)”

Paultardville June 7, 2008 at 12:35 pm

Meanwhile, CNN reported that Obama was off to a game of golf out in Chicago. What a misogynist elitist, out playing golf while the woman does all the work.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:35 pm

[re=9906]graceless[/re]: CSPAN works for me.

user-of-owls June 7, 2008 at 12:36 pm

When I look at that delightfully Stalinist speaking platform, I can’t help but wonder if halfway through the speech a fit woman in a tanktop and running shorts will dash in and lob a sledgehammer at the podium.

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 12:36 pm

[re=9965]In a Jar[/re]:
my wife just said same.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:37 pm

She’s in front of the tv with Bill. They’re watching MSNBC, feverishly all the sexist remarks that Olbermann and Matthews are making so they can insert them into her speech.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:37 pm

are other people msnbc-ing a live stream? are they only blocking me?

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:37 pm

[re=9901]HairyIckey[/re]: …you are dick cuz you had the first comment!

[re=9903]user-of-owls[/re]: 12:34 and still a NO SHOW(not that Im counting)

[re=9907]cs11[/re]: …Im still SHIT-FACED!

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 12:38 pm

Where’s her house? How long can it take to get downtown from there? Bored! Bored! Did somebody Google-map the directions? Don’t they stop traffic for an historic loser?

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:38 pm

[re=9906]graceless[/re]: Not that it matters when you’re just watching the results of Hillary locking herself in her bathroom slurring, “I don’t care! I don’t wanna go!” I bet that car driving over is just Chelsea apologizing. “Sorry, my mom can’t make it today. She’s surfing the crimson wave. She had to haul ass to the ladies.”

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 12:38 pm

[re=9978]graceless[/re]: I am. Keep in mind it’s not the broadcast MSNBC, its just a feed of the speech. Same thing as CNN.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm

…are they having their concession in a church?

HerExcellency June 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm

I’ve never watching MSNBC’s speech coverage sober before. I now understand why. This is positively painful.

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm

Well, this sucks. c’mon hillz, get to the point.

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm

[re=9978]graceless[/re]:
cnn is working great.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:40 pm

[re=9977]obfuscator[/re]:

‘feverishly transcribing’, duh.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:40 pm

…I wonder if Terry “douche bag” McCauliffe will introduce her as the “next president of the United States”?

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 12:40 pm

[re=9975]user-of-owls[/re]: +1
[re=9978]graceless[/re]: I can get that MSNBC stream (in San Diego). You might try C-SPAN’s Web site.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:40 pm

Jesus, if I lent my losing campaign $11m, I’d jump off a bridge.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 12:41 pm

What historic coverage of this historic event. Schoolchildren will discuss the day Hillary Clinton was late. Historic!

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 12:41 pm

this music blows. she should have hired a second-line combo.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:41 pm

Hillary is probably so late because she just found the infamous Michelle Obama “kill whitey” tape. Which, of course, changes everything.

Josh Fruhlinger June 7, 2008 at 12:41 pm

The caricature of Wright in that Drudge ad is, I’m reasonably sure, out of one of Chip Bok’s political cartoons, though the speech balloon isn’t. I wonder if he knows it?

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm

And doesn’t she look like Jennifer Jason Leigh in “Single White Female” in that picture? What’s up with the wet hair?

Paultardville June 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm

This is the lamest Wonkette pool party ever. Where’s the wet t-shirt contest with the senior citizen women bitters?

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm

[re=9986]bitchincamaro[/re]: Yes, thanks. I guess I’ll stay here. Msnbc will just to have fun without me.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm

[re=9981]ronaldpagan[/re]:

The headline on MSNBC:

“SEN. HILLARY CLINTON GETS MONTHLY VISITOR; SPEECH POSTPONED”

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm

[re=9994]ronaldpagan[/re]: I’ll bet she was watching it over and over and over, and she just lost track of the time.

Two-minute warning! Yee hah!

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm

[re=9980]V572625694[/re]: Her house is a block or two away from the Naval Observatory, where the VP lives. It’s up Massachussetts, and she’ll have to drive across town (AND through Dupont Circle- terrible traffic) to get there.

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 12:43 pm

Oh, hey, she just showed up. Let’s see what she does.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 12:43 pm

That announcer just made this sound like a boxing match.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:43 pm

[re=9992]Cicada[/re]: No. School children will discuss the say HRC wasn’t late. Provided there is ever a day when she isn’t late.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:44 pm

Wait the cheers just built up. Is she actually coming?

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:44 pm

Whoa listen to that downer music…she’s finally here!!!!

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:44 pm

…awwwwwwwwww she was introduced as “senator” and not the “next president of the UNITED STATES”

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:44 pm

Jeez, there are a ton of overweight, bald, frumpy men in that audience. Did NAMBLA hold their convention in D.C. this year?

SuperRounder June 7, 2008 at 12:44 pm

[re=9980]V572625694[/re]: I think her house is in Georgetown, and if traffic is bad, which I hear it is, the ride could take a minute.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:44 pm

An eskimo kiss for Chuck Schumer? Ewwwww.

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm

All right, she’s here. There’s Bill!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Oh Terry & Bill you lovable scumbags…be back after I can catch every last one of Hillary’s sweet sweet tears.

HeelingToPort June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm

give poor Hilz a break. It’s the Washington crowd. She’s just being ‘fashionably late’.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Wow, most somber entrance music, ever.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm

[re=10001]InsidiousTuna[/re]: She has a motorcade, traffic is never a problem…tardiness, that’s a problem.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Only one clap-clap-point? You disappoint me, Hilz.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm

…uh-oh the Goldwater reference by Keith!

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm

I still stand by my statement that I’d do Chelsea, if only for the novelty value.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm

[re=10006]ronaldpagan[/re]:

It sounded like the song from ‘Titanic’.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm

“Thank you, thank you, and FUCK YOU!”

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm

she’s dressed great but she so did not put on her makeup today…

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Fat Guy in Brown Shirt is not behind her this time. This is surely a sign of something or other.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Why are they all dressed in black? Who died?

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 12:47 pm

“Well, this isn’t the party I planned, but I sure like the company.” Bitch.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:47 pm

I have a feeling that she’s going to cry. I have a feeling that I will feel involuntary pangs of empathy for her if she does.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Maybe she can become a party planner when all this is over!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:48 pm

she will mention the bike boy

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:48 pm

[re=10025]obfuscator[/re]: Don’t give in, ‘Fusca. Don’t give in.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:48 pm

“…Who went to hillaryclinton.com…”

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 12:48 pm

She only started 46 minutes late. Didn’t even apologize.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:48 pm

I’m getting hungry. I need a snack.

HerExcellency June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

If she mentions that fucking boy and his fucking video games I am going to lose it.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

Btw, she does look nice. She should have tried the dark colors more during the campaign.

[re=10025]obfuscator[/re]: Empathy for the Clintons is fatal. Do not weaken!

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

What young people?

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

There’s a distinct lack of batshit-crazy forehead-stickers this time. Truly the day the music died.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

apparently some “young people” still support her. who knew?

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

…oh god why is the shameless pandering a highlight?!

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

She better damn well give bicycle kid a shout out.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

Did she just say R-Kansas?

SuperRounder June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

[re=10001]InsidiousTuna[/re]: I stand corrected. She lives near Cheney (and VaticanHidesPedophiles Guy)? That’s kinda like finding out that Darth Vader and Boba Fett grew up together.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

Yes, she’s giving a shout-out to the old bitters!

In a Jar June 7, 2008 at 12:49 pm

[re=9999]obfuscator[/re]: uh, not to be too graphic, but I doubt she’s getting any more monthly visitors these days.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm

…5 bucks says she references the kid with the bike!!!

Barrett808 June 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Keep in together, Hil.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Hahaha. Hills just implied that she didn’t win because so many people who voted for her died before their votes could be counted.

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm

I think I just shed a tear.
Nope. Just sweat.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm

CNN’s replaying earlier stuff? Did she start?

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Now SHE’S WHINING ABOUT THE VOTES OF THE DEAD NOT BEING COUNTED. “If the votes from Hades aren’t counted, it will be tantamount to the rape of democracy!”

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Yield, woman, yield!

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Did she borrow that necklace from Olympia Snowe?

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 12:51 pm

She started off with stories about taking money from children and the sad last hopes of now-dead people. Like it couldn’t get any more depressing.

eatsshootsleaves June 7, 2008 at 12:51 pm

[re=10026]loquaciousmusic[/re]: I don’t think planning is something anyone in the Clinton campaign will be doing for a long time.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 12:51 pm

God damn America, the MSNBC stream just flaked out on me

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:52 pm

Okay, I found it.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:52 pm

Boy, the gays really got a round of applause, eh?

stolichnaya June 7, 2008 at 12:52 pm

This crowd needs this. She’s doing the right thing here.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:52 pm

Did she just say “the young man in the ‘diamond whore’ t-shirt”?

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:52 pm

[re=10034]loquaciousmusic[/re]: Jinx.

[re=10033]jagorev[/re]: Word.

I mean, I could be wrong, but shouldn’t about half her crowd be Obama supporters anxiously awaiting her fall?

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

[re=10053]jagorev[/re]: cnn.com is working well.

sarcasticusername June 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

she just couldn’t let it go, blah blah blah 18 million votes blah blah blah. someone needs to double check that they didn’t give her the same text she read from on tuesday, because i sure can’t tell the difference.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Everyone watch C-SPAN, it works best.

PS: 52 minutes after she was supposed to get here, and still not one goddamn word about Barry O.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

When will she thank the blog trolls who spread rumors about Barrak HUSSEIN O’bambi? Why don’t they get credit, huh? Think of all the countless hours spent in front of the computer, the worn out caps lock buttons, the mental strain of accepting Hillarymath as logical.
Don’t they deserve their moment in the sun?

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

She endorses Obama, people boo. Real nice, fuckers.

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

There they were. Those words. Like sweet, sweet, nectar. . .

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Am I a bad person because as she walked the rope line, the thought “It’s June, anything can happen.” went through my mind?

Oh well. Hey, Hillary, this is your chance to make us proud again.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm

[re=10053]jagorev[/re]: THX, you made me feel better, evil msnbc.

It’s still all about her.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Boos right after the endorsement? Stay classy, bitter assholes.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm

OMG did you see Bill’s tragic golf claps for Obama? Half-assed endorsement but I just screamed “YESSSSSS” when it happened!!!!!

StupidGeek June 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Are there people booing Obama? Lame.

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Okay, she did the right thing: “I endorse him and throw my full support behind him.” Good girl.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Hey, they clapped for the Negro! That’s different!

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm

You like how she casually mentioned she was suspending her campaign? Perfectly impossible to chop into a soundbite. Awesome.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

What about her delegates? Does she throw the delegate behind him?

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

Actually, this is the classiest she’s been so far. GO HILLZ ’12!!!!!!!!!

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

Those f’ers are still booing. Let’s see if the “Building Museum” can withstand a bunker-buster dropped on it from a B-52.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

she can’t say it without sadness

[re=10063]obfuscator[/re]: yeah the booers can fuck themselves, one and all. i bet ferraro started it.

FabgurrlTX June 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

she could at least endorse him with a smile.

stolichnaya June 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

Good for you, Hill. Finally.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

Maybe they were saying “BOOOrack”.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Go Hilz! I knew you could do it!

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Will she “release” her delegates?

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Hahahaha win BACK the White House.

eatsshootsleaves June 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Wow, I can’t believe she actually did it! Oh my God, I really feel for her. This is the second time in my life I’ve actually wanted to hug Hillary Clinton.

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm

She is just sort of blowing through the applause lines now. She wants to get the fuck out of there.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm

The Democratic Party is a family…and booing Clinton supporters are what? Your randy uncle?

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:57 pm

She barely said ANYTHING nice about Bear-Bear. She best turn that around. Say “Change”, Hillary. Say “Hope.” DO IT!!!!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm

I hope she has just decided to be in charge of Health Care in Obama’s cabinet. That would be good for us all.

mc_frontalot June 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm

It is as unconvincing as her stump speech. She doesn’t sound like she wants Barry to win anything except Biggest Contrary Example.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm

And what is it with everyone using U2 now at rallys.

Come on, they are not American. They are commie, un-american Irish or something.

I’m surprised that Sean Hannity hasn’t started a series: “Barack Obama played “Beautiful World” at his rally. That song was sung by Bono, who hates the U.S. Why does Barack hate America so.”

It is moves like this that kills you in elections, people!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm

I am legit proud of her for saying “gay rights.” I also like these new genocide mentions.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm

[re=10084]Rodney Badger[/re]: It’s certainly not the first time someone has blown (through) something in the Clinton family!

FabgurrlTX June 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm

shout out to Bill..holla!

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Why do the gay lines always get the biggest round of applause? Didn’t she support DoMA?

sarcasticusername June 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm

stroking bill’s ego for a few moments… check
talk about how the clinton administration solved all the world’s problems…check

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Hillary’s speech thus far: “Me me me me me. I endorse Obama. Me me me me me. My husband was president.”

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 12:59 pm

So is her career over? If so, wouldn’t it be cool if she dedicated herself to being a ferocious pit bull attached to Panamanian strongman Juan McCain’s throat from now til election day? Us the power of the things people don’t like about her to bring that old goat down?

Oh, I know, Hilz in ’12….

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

Dy-nasty Over.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

WTF, CNN.com?!?!

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

Okay, you better end this thing on some nice words for Barry. If this turns into another “the Clintons are great” speech, I’ll gag.

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

And it’s back to being about her and bubba now. Also, note how she’s saying we need a democrat in the white house, but virtually nothing about Barry in the white house. A+ hillz.

soymocha June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

You know, the endorsement rang true. Except for being late, it’s actually been pretty elegant.

Fuck. Now she’s mentioning Bill. You know he wants to rip the mic from her hand and call Barry “uppity”.

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

Whoooo she hit the line, thank you hillz, thank yo.

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

YES WE CAN!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

You skank bucket. There are obviously nicer things to say about Barry than “Well, he is also a Democrat.” He’s better than a giant trough full of Gores and Kerrys (not to even mention Liebermans), and you damn well know it.

StupidGeek June 7, 2008 at 1:00 pm

Yes we can!?!

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm

Good lord. CNN just died. They cut the speech and then flew into their 1:00 PM program. Dumbasses.

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm

[re=10086]ronaldpagan[/re]: She did: “I’ll stand with Senator Obama to say ‘Yes we can!’”

HerExcellency June 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm

I kind of love her again for saying “Yes we can!”

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm

OMG SHE JUST SAID “YES! WE! CAN!” I bet it killed her inside…

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm

Wow. It sounds like she convinced herself. And the Yes We Can bit was a nice touch.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm

[re=10089]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: They’re already there –

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDNlNThiMjMzOTdhNGQ0MjlmNmIzYjE4YmM4ZTM1NjA=

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

“And I come to you today, at this time, in this place, to announce my candidacy for the presidency of the United States in either 2012 or 2016! Go to HILLARYCLINTON2012.COM or HILLARYCLINTON2016.COM and donate money to me!”

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Ha, they just panned to a drunken, orange Terry looking at the ceiling while halfheartedly clapping.

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

She looks pained saying “Barack Obama, our president.”

In a Jar June 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Could she sound any less sincere any time she says something positive about Obama?

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

She keeps saying THAT BLACK MAN’S NAME WHAT THE HELL IS HER PROBLEM OH MY GOD!

mc_frontalot June 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

She’s dragging it up to the surface. She’s pulling it out. But smile when you say his name, will you? Please?

Barrett808 June 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Oh, please, don’t say it again.

eatsshootsleaves June 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm

Oh, guys, her speech is actually pretty good. Except she sounds a little angry every time she says the words “Barack Obama.” Just talk about the Democratic Party, ok, Hillary? You’re more convincing.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm

She’s being more classy than ever, but that still isn’t actually classy. I think it’s enough though, just barely.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm

“An America that’s as loyal to our troops as they have been to us” is an excellent touch.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm

That “that is why we must help to elect Barack Obama our President” is starting to grate on me. The tone sounds exactly like “that’s not change we can believe in”.

She does not need to campaign for Barack. She will only turn off voters.

sarcasticusername June 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm

ok the chorus of “this is why must help elect barack obama president!” is getting a tad bit silly. she really can’t get this authenticity thing down can she

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm

Wow. I don’t totally hate her right now. I think I’m coming down with something…HOPE, perhaps?

Anonymous Office Zombie June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

And that is why WE MUST EL-ECT BA-RACK O-BAMA OUR PRES-I-DENT!

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

[re=10106]loquaciousmusic[/re]: There should be another window, just look and click. Still about her though…

HairyIckey June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

“Could a woman serve as commander in chief? Well, I think we’ve answered that one!”

Oops! Some speechwriter’s cat will be dead within 10 minutes…

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

OMG did people just boo “Could an African American really be our president, and Senator Obama has answered that one?” Or is that my imagination?

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

And why does Hillary think that listing off a girl who used her savings for Disney Land to see her instead sounds good? Let’s have a little perspective here. It is the Presidency, not American Idol.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Oh my god, what’s coming over me? I feEL WEIRD….HILLARY! HILLARY! HILLARY! HILLARY! COUNT ALL THE VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Hillary is a woman. Whoa, I totally didn’t notice that.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Why are they still screaming when she talks about her being President? It’s OVER, bitters!

sarcasticusername June 7, 2008 at 1:04 pm

she still thinks she can be the best president, blah blah blah

mc_frontalot June 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm

Okay, I believe she wants to help out. But ugh! She is kind of terrible at speechmaking. There’s no way she was going to beat ‘NUTS with this kind of talk. Thank goodness she did not wrest it from Barry at the last second.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm

[re=10121]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Totes about the soldiers. I kinda wish there would have been more applause for that one.

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm

[re=10096]V572625694[/re]: “Use” the power…I swear I took typing.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

[re=10079]obfuscator[/re]: I thought they were saying “Barack-oorns.”

bitchincamaro June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

[re=10124]loquaciousmusic[/re]:
Mine is being channelled directly to Walnuts, even as she speaks.
I can feel it.

Drop-out June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

i don’t know about the rest of you but this goes great with Led Zepplin’s Physical Graffiti. “Iran as a daughter…who wants LOVE…ooh yeah…talk about love…

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

You’re worried about Chelsea’s future? I mean, she’s had the most privileged upbringing imaginable, she went to Stanford, and she works at a hedge fund where she will make millions. Chelsea will not be oppressed by THE SEXISM.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

…WoW, best speech (by her) EVER!!!

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Why is she worried about Chelsea’s furture? She’s a millionaire with secret service protection. What to worry about?

stolichnaya June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

I am trying to remember that this vocal style that has been bugging the shit out of me for six months is like catnip for her supporters. If she keeps saying “support Barack Obama for President” in that odd, singsong style, they will all do it. Just think- it worked for “go to Hillary Clinton Dot Com”.

Barrett808 June 7, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Again with the race issue…trying to bring over those “special” supporters.

milknhoney55 June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

Oh ok, this is what she should have done on Tuesday… (rolls eyes) When she said, “Yes we can.” I kind of sort of started liking the Clinton’s again.

I also liked the part about a woman has shown that she can be president and a af-am man has shown that he can be president.

Also like this bit about no prejudices… now she just needs to say it for Barack.

Bob Hopeless June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

Now I’ve got her voice saying “Barack Obama!” over and over and over again in my head – make it stop!

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

This is just BAAAARELY acceptable. So far, she’s doing just enough to not be eviscerated afterward, and not one iota more. Barry said more nice things about her on Tuesday. She can barely choke out his name. But she’ll say “Whaddya want? I said vote for him” And every pro-bama statement is immediately followed by a self-aggrandizing (or Bill-aggrandizing) platitude.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

I would like to resolve and work toward achieving a sandwich right about now.

This is interesting, though: “there are no acceptable prejudices in the twenty-first century.” Is this a veiled dig at her supporters who aren’t voting for Barack because he’s black? Or is she just talking about broads here?

V572625694 June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

C-SPAN is running a chyron saying “Final Campaign Rally.” If only…

shortsshortsshorts June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

But when will she endorse George W.?

StupidGeek June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

Why does she keep talking about young people?

junkscience June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

I don’t get her oratory. It’s all stupid and weird.

soymocha June 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm

The part about women is perfect. Why the hell didn’t she phrase things in these terms months ago? Instead of asking if someone should get Barack a pillow? Seriously, she’s really nailing this part.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm

I have realized that I will always dislike Hillary, even if she endorses Barack. She represents everything that is wrong with our politics.

Ooh, could we blast her into space, pleez?!?!

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm

[re=10128]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Who’s going to be the first to jump on the ‘blasting 50 women into space’ line?

/not me

Indi June 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm

Can we launch Hillary into space?

…please?

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

If we can blast 50 women into space, we can someday launch a way woman into White House.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

[re=10128]ronaldpagan[/re]: You expected class from the bitters? Just be glad they aren’t chanting NO-BAMA, NO-BAMA!

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

“because when people say that you shouldn’t continue, look at my example, and realize you too can rack up $30m in debt for a totally failed enterprise, then use your husband’s position as former president to get more Colombian blood money to make more money anyway.”

eatsshootsleaves June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

Aw, go Hillary. We like you again. This is the first good speech she’s given in this campaign.

sarcasticusername June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

18 million blah blah blah, i’ll be the first female prez in 2012 or 2016 blah blah blah

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

Can’t we blast HRC into outer space?

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

What about the fact that black folks couldn’t vote in the south until the 1960s? What about that, Hillary?

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

18 MILLION CRACKS IN THE GLASS CEILING?!?!?!?!?!?! Ugh…

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:09 pm

The ceiling … my GOD it’s falling!

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 1:10 pm

I dunno, maybe I’m biased, and until now have wanted to throw up every time she has given a speech. But this is a damn good speech.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:10 pm

My fucking comp powered off! I missed the “women’s rights” part. I would have loved to hear it; I’m a feminist too (albeit one who thinks Hillary Clinton nutcrackers are funny. Like Nooners said, if someone made a nutcracker of me I would buy a box of them and pass them out as party favors.)

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 1:10 pm

…Hillary is killing me today! If she was like this 3 months ago I would’ve voted for HER(even though it wouldn’t have counted cuz I live in MIAMI)!

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:10 pm

Chelsea went to private schools, how many people of color were there?

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

This is a feminist speech, rather than conciliatory, or an endorsement. =/

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

I forget, she’s been talking about herself and women for so long, did she suspend and endorse bho?

hah! “don’t go there! will be back after this commercial break”

FabgurrlTX June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

I agree that speech is all over the place….

milknhoney55 June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Even though I said all this stuff, she better end this with a lot of Barack stuff and less Hilary. But woman is not taking office in the near future… a BLACK man is…

Chelsea’s color is great though.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Actually, this is smart. She’s telling the bitters that there will be a woman someday and that it’s because of them…but that, until that point, they should support Barry.

I wonder if she’s going to explicitly address bitters voting for McCain?

Rodney Badger June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

I can’t wait to hear what Pat Buchanan has to say about this speech.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

[re=10155]obfuscator[/re]: I think I got there first. What do I win?

user-of-owls June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Bring out the running shorts babe with the sledgehammer already…otherwise this speech will go on until November.

StupidGeek June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Ouch, looks like Bill forgot his sunscreen at the pool party yesterday.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm

So they bumped into the glass ceiling? Doesn’t that inherently suggest that Barack Obama and his “gang” kept that under that ceiling? How is that pro-unity transcendence??

Lascauxcaveman June 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm

Woman this woman that, women women women, I’m a woman, remarkable that women blah blah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman women Woman this woman that, women women women, I’m a woman, remarkable that women blah blah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman women

… BTW vote for Barry …

Woman this woman that, women women women, I’m a woman, remarkable that women blah blah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenWoman this woman that, women women women, I’m a woman, remarkable that women blah blah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenWoman this woman that, women women women, I’m a woman, remarkable that women blah blah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman womenblah woman woman women

ALRIGHT GIRL, GET OVER YOURSELF!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm

[re=10160]eatsshootsleaves[/re]: Word. I’m digging her, conflictedly. Although it helps to put Terry, Bill, and a huge sea of bitters up there for some “she’s not that bad” contrast.

And here’s the conflict: Hillary, I KNOW you spent at least from 12:00 to 12:45 dwelling on what might have been. Unconvincing.

shortsshortsshorts June 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm

18 MILLION MEANS THAT WE CAN STILL CLINCH THIS THING AND WE HAVE A CHANCE AT WINNING SO WE CANT PULL OUT NOW BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WERE LOSING AND WE ARE NOT LOSERS SO WIN WIN WIN HILLARY BECAUSE YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING WINNER IT MAKES MY NIPPLES HARD

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

Anybody who missed any of this, I’m sure it’ll be on youtube, or at hillaryclinton.com

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

I think I’m going to pop Bob Roberts into the DVD player when I get home.

soymocha June 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

Okay, she’s gotta wrap it up. Her concession is taking longer than his acceptance.

mc_frontalot June 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

I can tell she’s not going to say the things that are most vital for her supporters to hear: “The primaries were close, but Barry won them fair and square. His campaign was honorable; sexism was prevalent and despicable, but it didn’t come from Barry’s camp. He is qualified. He will be a great prez.” She needs to take a huge chisel to the sense of Betrayal At The Hands Of The Party that her hardcore folks came armored with.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

[re=10169]graceless[/re]: Well, I’m sure the private school had some custodial staff, so at least a few?

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

[re=10176]jagorev[/re]:

Geraldine Ferraro knocking on your door with a 15 inch strap on.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

Ch-ch-ch-changes! But still backhanded.

InsidiousTuna June 7, 2008 at 1:14 pm

[re=10178]StupidGeek[/re]: Bill’s been that shade of crimson for years.

Bob Hopeless June 7, 2008 at 1:14 pm

[re=10178]StupidGeek[/re]: He’s just silently exploding on the inside.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 1:14 pm

…HAHAHAHAHA she didnt thank BILL!!!!!!!

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

Well, Hillary, that didn’t suck as much as I expected. You still tooted your own horn, so to speak, but that’s come to be expected.

I wonder what the comments at hillaryclinton.com will say now?

milknhoney55 June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

Oh so now she’s an elitist? (all the opportunities i had?) just last week she was one of the poors… confused.

shortsshortsshorts June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

[re=10188]obfuscator[/re]: Fucking scary.

Drop-out June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

dare you to turn on “Kashmir” right now, dare you

MARCdMan June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

[re=10160]eatsshootsleaves[/re]: I’ve noticed that a lot lately, the best speech is always the concession speech.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

OK so here’s my thought…most of her reasons for endorsing Obama are more self-congratulatory (the Democratic party needs me, we have to stand together, etc.) than Obama-congratulatory. But maybe she knows her supporters, and this is what most speaks to them? Flattering them into voting a Democrat? She’s a smart lady.

StupidGeek June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

I like when she doesn’t shout and uses her ‘betime story’ voice.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm

She really should have asked Barry to deliver the speech on her behalf.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

[re=10180]Lascauxcaveman[/re]: Ooh, maybe she’s angling to be elected President of American women??

sarcasticusername June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

i suppose i didn’t really expect much more from her. i now more believe more firmly than before that the reason she was 45 min late was because chelsea was pleading with her to come out of the bathroom. she was totally sobbing and yelling ” i won’t do it! you can’t make me say it!”

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

She should have led a Barack cheer of some sort…

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

…is that DADDY YANKEE in the background?!

shortsshortsshorts June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

[re=10183]graceless[/re]: Awesome. I now know more places where I will not watch it. Is it worth it to disrupt vacation happy time?

Paultardville June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

I’m still not convinced it’s over. Can someone drive a stake through her heart just to make sure?

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

AAAGH Bill just kissed Hillary. GROSS

Son of Mark Penn June 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm

I think it’s amusing she doesn’t include Johnson as one of those democratic presidents that was elected in her political life. She wasn’t active in politics when she was campaigning for Goldwater.

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 1:17 pm

Thank god it’s over. Sorry, terrible speech. It’s only for women, obama’s magical black glass ceiling kept them down, bill is awesome, nothing about mccain, weird singsongy rhythm, feh to all that.

If Barry gave a crazy speech like this, we’d all wonder if he got brain damaged somehow.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 1:17 pm

All right, we need a thread on Brer Rabbit. He’s still under copyright, so I assume that they have defrosted Walt and he is calling the shots again?

[Interesting Side Note: Disney has apparently convinced Google that Songs of the South never happened to, as it's spell checker doesn't know "Brer."]

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:17 pm

This is bullshit! Democratics are better than Republicans, so I guess Barack is better than McCain (kinda).

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:17 pm

Well… that was pleasantly unsatisfying. She really oscillated between making me hate her more and endearing herself with more than a few really strong lines.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:17 pm

zero mentions of hillaryclinton.com? how’d that happen?[re=10180]Lascauxcaveman[/re]: great work on the transcript.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:17 pm

Alright, good job Hilz. The me me me thing must be the only way her speech writers know how to communicate her message. A little we we we wouldn’t hurt in the future.

Drop-out June 7, 2008 at 1:18 pm

sorry, too late…Led Zeppelin fucking rocks…it’s finally over right?

shortsshortsshorts June 7, 2008 at 1:18 pm

The HillaryClinton.com DNS will now convert back to pantsuit porn.

PoliticalGraffiti June 7, 2008 at 1:18 pm

i believe she went to Wellesley not Wesleyan…

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 1:18 pm

…Im glad I didnt waste all my booze last night!!!

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:18 pm

[re=10199]StupidGeek[/re]: Yeah, the bedtime story voice was at least tolerable. She needs to use that more.

CometHasTheFloor June 7, 2008 at 1:18 pm

[re=10179]El Bombastico[/re]: If it weren’t for those 18 million plus one Hopey supporters and their darn putty knives and all that spackle, that ceiling would have been toast.

AngryBlakGuy June 7, 2008 at 1:19 pm

…hahahaha Bill was in the “time out cirlce”

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:20 pm

[re=10193]loquaciousmusic[/re]:

Her most bitter Bitters will now throw Hillary under the bus and turn the site into…

GERALDINE-FERRARO2008.COM

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 1:20 pm

Okay, it’s over. Time to get some lunch and go to the beach.

Go, Obama!

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:20 pm

[re=10211]El Bombastico[/re]: I think she actually made a compelling argument. Her supporters aren’t ready to hear a bunch of “Obama is great” stuff yet. I think she’ll shift more to that over time, to ease her people into it.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:21 pm

[re=10208]Son of Mark Penn[/re]: As she was a Randroid during that phase of her life, I think it’s a fair argument that she could not have been in full control of her faculties.

graceless June 7, 2008 at 1:21 pm

They’re playing “you can’t go home” that’s funny.

eatsshootsleaves June 7, 2008 at 1:22 pm

[re=10198]ronaldpagan[/re]: That’s what I was thinking. I think most Clinton supporters need to feel like they’re still important, and that Clinton hasn’t been unfairly treated, but in fact has been given a wonderful and groundbreaking opportunity.

soymocha June 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm

Bill’s on the rope line. You know he wants to whip out the pointy finger.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm

[re=10208]Son of Mark Penn[/re]: Maybe because he wasn’t elected the first time? That is weird.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm

Not even one mention of McCain. Disgraceful.

zdz June 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm

U n d e r w h e l m i n g

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:24 pm

[re=10209]Sean O[/re]: Meh. I am not nearly as positive about this speech as, say, Jezebel will be, but she did mention a lot of reasons we need a Democrat. Keeping things positive worked well for her.

[re=10224]Cicada[/re]: I absolutely agree. I wish all her supporters were as cool as she is. (Which is still not THAT cool, even though today’s speech was great.)

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Her webadmin has more class than her:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/home/?splash=1

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:24 pm

[re=10224]Cicada[/re]: I hear you, but I would have like to hear at least one (I’ll have to check the transcript) statement to the effect that Barack Obama would… you know… make a good President. As opposed to “Democrats make better presidents than Republicans.” We need X, Y, Z — so we gotta elect a Democrat, whoever that may be. Maybe I was giving her too much credit, expecting that. I wanted an endorsement of Barack Obama. I got an endorsement of the Democratic party. Yeah Hillz, I kinda know what you think about Democrats.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 1:25 pm

I think it was a very good speach when you look at her need to move her supporters behind Obama. Many of her supporters needed to hear her talk about being a woman running for President.

SuperRounder June 7, 2008 at 1:25 pm

The guy in the crowd shot toward the end with this thumbs down was my favorite.

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Hillary needs platform shoes. I can only see the top of her head.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm

[re=10228]soymocha[/re]:

Let’s hope he doesn’t call anybody a scumbag.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:27 pm

[re=10192]AngryBlakGuy[/re]: Hahaha really?

And of course, I want to thank Bill, for cheating on me in the public eye, and sabotaging my campaign because he knows I would only upstage him.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:29 pm

[re=10234]El Bombastico[/re]: True, but considering the fact that her campaign has been whipping their supporters into a frenzy with “the DNC betrayed us”, saying nice things about the party is important too.

zdz June 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm

Don’t cry for me Argentina

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm

OK, my comp powered off for a little of the speech, so you guys will have to help me out. But the most amazing and groundbreaking thing about it…ZERO Hillary Clinton dot com plugs? Hell just froze over!

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm

[re=10240]Cicada[/re]:

She did a very good job of pushing party unification. Never mentioned the Clinton-math popular vote win once. Same for the Michigan/Florida thing.

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm

Now that’s weird! C-SPAN has a line for those who support Hillary Clinton and a line for those who support others. Kind of keeps the “still running” meme going…

Sean O June 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm

[re=10232]ronaldpagan[/re]: I agree that positive is fine, but it really seemed to be 1). you should vote for Obama because he has a (D) next to his name, and 2). it’s ok, I I I I I will be back because I I I I I need to be the first female president (which the men kept us from doing this time).

I figure that if I were a male Hillary supporter, I’d wonder wtf I’d been doing, since clearly nobody cared about me.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 1:33 pm

[re=10234]El Bombastico[/re]: I thought during the part of the speech where she kept saying “That is why we need to elect Barack Obama,” she was saying Obama will get all those things done. I saw that as a direct endorsement of Obama, plus the fact that she actually said she is endorsing Obama. I see the part about the Democratic party as talking directly to her supporters who feel betrayed by the Party.

HerExcellency June 7, 2008 at 1:34 pm

I am going to admit something awful. I don’t like hating Hillary Clinton. From the time I was seven years old until about six months ago I thought was was fucking awesome. And then she went nuts, became raciest, and just generally lost her mind. All I have wanted is for her to give just one semi-graceful speech that did not make me completely ashamed. This was it. It wasn’t brilliant, but there were some good lines and the delivery was pretty damn good for her. All is now right with the world and I can now devote my attention to hating republicans the way god intended.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 1:34 pm

“Working to give all of America the same opportunities I had.”

Does that mean we all get to marry the President of the United States?

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:34 pm

[re=10234]El Bombastico[/re]: Yeah word. She did give Barack Obama a sentence of cursory praise “Senator Obama is dedicated and committed…” and what have you. She did talk about civil rights, which was nice. She did adopt “Yes! We! Can!” But I think she should have given him, maybe, an entire paragraph (compared to the THREE he gave her in his speech the other night) without turning her supporters off.

But whatevs…we already knew Barack Obama has more class and decency in one perfectly sculpted ass cheek than Hillary Clinton has in her entire body. Now isn’t the time to dwell on it.

valencia June 7, 2008 at 1:34 pm

I’m thinking Obama must have promised her she can be the Director of the CIA.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:36 pm

Since I was just feverishly typing with one hand on my vag (I have waited for Hillary to concede for so long), I’m going back and reading all the comments

[re=9989]AngryBlakGuy[/re]: and this is hilarious.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:36 pm

Some old sounding dude from Georgia who supported Hillary pledges his vote for Obama. Nice.

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:37 pm

Did she say the “C” word? Or just “suspend?”

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:37 pm

[re=10246]Black Cat[/re]: Yeah, I hear that. I just feel like it was a B-. Just enough to have the talking heads say it was a good speech, and keep the party off her ass, but not actually a full endorsement. I’m probably asking too much.

Her actions between now and November will determine her place. I’ve given her credit before, and she’s disappointed me. Let’s keep this in perspective. She may very well go home, and not say another word on the electino.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:37 pm

By the way, the song ‘Black President’ by NAS, just about to come out, is pretty awesome, and I quote:

America, suprise us
And let a black man guide us

[re=10232]ronaldpagan[/re]: I thought this speech provided a ‘blame the patriarchy’ meta-narrative for the campaign that will, at best, encourage feminist women to stay home on election day.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 1:38 pm

[re=10248]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: No. It means we all get the opportunity to watch our husbands screw around.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm

[re=10248]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: I fucking hope so! (Especially if it’s Walnuts.)

[re=10250]valencia[/re]: SOOOO true…I would not want to be an anti-American dictator in a tiny country right about now.

[re=9930]soymocha[/re]: Look at the first comment on the site:

Her mistake was not going for the throat to begin with.

HILLARY4MCCAIN.COM

(That website directs you to johnmccain.com)

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm

[re=10255]jagorev[/re]: I’m not up to speed on today’s rap music (having bowed out around “Children’s Story” by Slick Rick, but doesn’t Nas suck?

HairyIckey June 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm

[re=10233]jagorev[/re]: The “Sign Up to Help Obama” form still leads to her contribution page…

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm

[re=10250]valencia[/re]:

Or a lifetime pass to the Build-A-Burger conference.

Some conspiracy theory “news” website reported that Barry and Hillz both attended the conference at the Marriott on the same day they met at Feinstein’s northern Virginia kibbutz. They used the a blog on Wonkette as one of their sources.

FabgurrlTX June 7, 2008 at 1:40 pm

Brown and Turquoise don’t go together.. Huma is fired! and WHITE PEARLS?? not so much. I hated her outfit. She should of worn Red or Fuchsia.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 1:41 pm

[re=10253]WonkaBee[/re]: Suspend. She really can’t shut down her campaign completely because she wouldn’t be able to fund raise anymore to pay off her debt.

soymocha June 7, 2008 at 1:41 pm

John King is interviewing Terry McAuliffe. Fuck. You total asshole. *Drop it.* Terry is going on about Hillary getting more votes than any candidate in the history of the Democratic party. Yeah, motherfucker, *in your mind.*

This is the problem. She just gave a great speech and her supporters are already fucking it up. If she’d muzzled Bill, Terry, Lanny, et al from the start and if she’d canned Penn and Solis-Doyle after Iowa, she might have actually won.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:42 pm

[re=10251]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Carpal Tunnel Syndrome effects millions of non-hardworking elitist Americans every year.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:42 pm

[re=10258]El Bombastico[/re]: Hey, if smart poetry set over righteous beats sucks, then yes, you’re right.

Son of Mark Penn June 7, 2008 at 1:42 pm

I thought on the whole it was a good speech, my one gripe is she didn’t do a convincing enough job of personally linking Obama to the goals of her campaign. It felt like an entirely political endorsement, and an unpersonal endorsement.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 1:42 pm

[re=10253]WonkaBee[/re]: There was actually some interesting comentary I heard on why it is important that she suspeds. It means she gets her delegates on record at the convention for purely historical reasons. Remember, Edwards just suspended his campaign.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:43 pm

[re=10255]jagorev[/re]: Sorry, I love Nas, and that song has some good verses, but the chorus is fucking GAY. (Not in a homophobic way, but in a “Dancing Queen” way.) And the beat is especially shitty, even for Nas.

brinyside June 7, 2008 at 1:43 pm

uh.. that would be Wellesley College, not Wesleyan!

brinyside June 7, 2008 at 1:44 pm

uh.. her alma mater would be Wellesley College, not Wesleyan!

TGY June 7, 2008 at 1:45 pm

This ’90s-’00s Democratic party, this “more Republican than the Republicans” triangulation at the heart of Clintonism? We don’t want it. It’s trash.

Exactly right. Clintonism should go on tour, I think. A world tour. Perhaps on the stage.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:45 pm

[re=10263]soymocha[/re]:

That’s one of the most effective arguments against her. The inability to put together a team that wasn’t a bunch of arrogant egomaniacs with the inability to even consider the idea that they might not have it rolled up by Feb. 5.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 1:46 pm

It would have been nice to see an attack on McCain. Still, she probably thinks they are going to be stuck in the Senate together. And you don’t want to make McCain mad…, you wouldn’t like him when he’s mad.

Jim Newell June 7, 2008 at 1:46 pm

[re=10270]brinyside[/re]: oh right, thank you!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:46 pm

OK, so like I said I missed some of the speech. Did anyone here if she stated the very obvious, very important point that a vote for Obama is a vote to protect women’s rights, all the way up to Roe v. Wade? If she didn’t say that, she better say it soon.

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:47 pm

This is heartening, I’m hearing a few C-SPAN callers who sound like clingers saying that this speech convinced them to support O. I got all misty when this old lady said: “I’m a Democrat.”

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:49 pm

[re=10267]Black Cat[/re]: So I guess that makes it a “Suspension Speech!” Should have come out in bitter suspenders.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:49 pm

[re=10275]ronaldpagan[/re]:

She did use the phrase “a woman’s right to choose”.

Lots of CSPAN callers saying they were Hillary supporters but will vote for Barry. One or two Hillarys saying that they will vote for McCain.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 1:50 pm

[re=10270]brinyside[/re]: [re=10275]ronaldpagan[/re]: Nope. It was all about how she represented women’s rights, and her victory was denied by the glass ceiling.

There was no attempt to link her issues with Barack’s, and she did not even mention John McCain once.

HerExcellency June 7, 2008 at 1:50 pm

teheheh….Terry is wearing a polo shirt with a suit jacket. He really is a drunken bum.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 1:50 pm

[re=10111]jagorev[/re]: That is why I don’t read the Corner. Its just scary that post that are jokes here are considered sober thought there.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm

[re=10083]eatsshootsleaves[/re]: What was the first time you wanted to hug Hill-dogg?

Son of Mark Penn June 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm

[re=10275]ronaldpagan[/re]: She mentioned the supreme court. That’s the code word, but not specific enough to angrify pro-life Dems.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm

[re=10276]WonkaBee[/re]:

That last lady who sounded really old and really Southern kind of scared me with her voice.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm

Yeah, one thing she needs to say to her supporters is: “Hey, if you like my policies and issues – you’ll like Barack Obama’s. They’re fucking identical!” She should clean up the language, obvs.

FabgurrlTX June 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm

Rachel Maddow vs Pat Buchannan right now on MSNBC… love it!

Son of Mark Penn June 7, 2008 at 1:52 pm

Also, when will Rush Limbaugh announce the suspension of Operation Chaos? He better do it soon or all those Chaos Republicans will vote for Obama.

TGY June 7, 2008 at 1:53 pm

[re=10247]HerExcellency[/re]: Yah, it’s a funny old world. How did Al Gore metamorphose from Mr. Roboto to Mr. Roboto el Environmento, for instance?

I blame aging.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 1:53 pm

[re=10277]WonkaBee[/re]: Na-nu Na-nu.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 1:54 pm

[re=10286]FabgurrlTX[/re]: Is Rachel now *leading* the roundtable discussion? Yeah, that’s gender transcendence. Now she should keep Pat in his place.

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 1:54 pm

[re=10284]obfuscator[/re]: The one who said:” Not ready.. maybe in 4 years?” yeah, bitter..

FabgurrlTX June 7, 2008 at 1:55 pm

Pat just suggested that Obama should consider HRC for VP.!!! OMG!! there is a baby jesus!

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 1:56 pm

[re=10279]jagorev[/re]: It’s not true that she didn’t attempt to link her issues to Obama. She stated many of her important issues, each one followed seperately by “That is why we need to elect Barack Obama President.” That was connecting those issues to OBama.

True she didn’t mention McCain. That I don’t understand.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 1:57 pm

Sorry, still catching up with the comments:

[re=10174]loquaciousmusic[/re]: She should totes explicitly call out the people threatening to vote for McCain. She has time.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 1:58 pm

[re=10291]WonkaBee[/re]:

Bitter and AM radio scary.

soymocha June 7, 2008 at 1:58 pm

[re=10272]obfuscator[/re]: Oh, yeah. Totally. I’m all about Barry. I’m not saying I wanted Hill to win, but that she might have won if her team hadn’t been, as you so rightly put it, a “bunch of arrogant egomaniacs” who could map out a decent ground game.

Among the other things I never understood about her campaign, either, is why they continually griped that they were outspent by Obama. It was always, “My opponent outspent us by 2 to 1 in Wisconsin!” Well, yeah, your opponent has over a million and a half individual donors. It’s like they went out of their way to draw attention to this fact.

RuperttheBear June 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm

You know how if you cue up The Wizard of Oz to Dark Side of the Moon and all the shit lines up?

This speech does the same thing, but to Mandingo!

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm

[re=10257]ronaldpagan[/re]: Pagan, you are starting to scare me.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:00 pm

[re=10294]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Agreed. She should also have explicity called out anyone who voted against Barry based on race during the WV and KY primaries.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:02 pm

If she had talked about all this women’s rights/glass ceiling stuff earlier, in these terms, instead of all those vague references implying that Barack is a sexist because he brushed his shoulders off, things would be a lot better.

I would be in love with this speech, and her, if she’d done it after Indiana and NC.

zdz June 7, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Are women’s rights at risk because HRC didn’t get the nomination?

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:05 pm

[re=10296]soymocha[/re]:

I didn’t think you were a Hillary supporter, and you’re absolutely right that she ‘should’ have won. On paper, she should have kicked his elitist ass up and down the map. She didn’t start losing until people actually started voting. She was up anywhere from 15 to 25 points in the national polls all summer.

As far as the money thing, it is a little weird to use “My opponent is so much better at raising money than I am” as an argument for your candidacy.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:07 pm

[re=10245]Sean O[/re]: Yeah I feel you…but I’m not gonna hold it against her. Hopefully her endorsements will keep getting more Barry-specific.

[re=10298]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: Don’t worry, Hutz, you know where my presidential sexual fantasies really lie.

[re=10279]jagorev[/re]: I’m gonna have to read the women’s rights part before I weigh in on this and the patriarchal meta-narrative…are there any links up yet?

[re=10283]Son of Mark Penn[/re]: The Supreme Court is a good start, and didn’t someone else say she mentioned choice? I’m not going to be totally happy until she spends five minutes going: “Barry is as good on any women’s rights issue as I ever was.” And in reality, he’s better for women’s rights. She doesn’t need to talk about how he voted AGAINST the partial-birth abortion ban while she was for it (that phrase does not win anyone over), but I rest my fucking case.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 2:10 pm

How does this thread have 382 comments and “No Views”? I hope Jim Newell isn’t being paid on pageviews, because that counter sucks balls.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:11 pm

[re=10288]TGY[/re]: Speaking of Al Gore…why the fuck hasn’t he gotten off his fat ass and endorsed already?????? He should have done it on Tuesday or Wednesday. Is he, like, waiting to see if McCain chooses his buddy Lieberman?

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:13 pm

[re=10303]ronaldpagan[/re]:

She was doing a bit where she’d talk about an issue and connect it to electing Barry, I think.

“If we want to protect a woman’s right to choose, we need to send Barack Obama to the White House!”

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:15 pm

And in case any remaining people on this thread are curious, here is the Nas song.

http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=22019

I think it sucks but is slightly redeemed by a Calvin Coolidge KKK reference. What do you think?

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 2:18 pm

[re=10307]ronaldpagan[/re]: The Calvin Coolidge and Thomas Jefferson references were solid. I hear Diddy is gonna namecheck Samuel Tilden in his next joint.

Song is meh — it’s okay. I hope we’re not gonna have three months of sub-par Obama rap songs.

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 2:19 pm

Hmmmm something about that graduation pic reminds me of the Miley Cyrus shoot..

Tits_LaRue June 7, 2008 at 2:19 pm

Meh. This speech was like a Ultra-Thin Light Dri-Weave Pantyliner when what you need is a Long Super Heavy Overnight with Wings.

I think I could actually hear her teeth grinding together during the “We have to elect Barack Obama president!” parts. But, better late than never, I suppose. Thanks, Hillary.

Ken Layne June 7, 2008 at 2:21 pm

[re=10304]jagorev[/re]: It’s a “mystery” that was allegedly fixed Friday, so now it doesn’t work at all.

THANK YOU JIM for ruining your Saturday, for America. You made that sound a lot more entertaining/important than it possibly could’ve been In Real Life.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:21 pm

Does Gawker REALLY not have a thread about Clinton’s speech? An NY Times story about killing rabbits and some Battlestar Galactica episode are more important?

[re=10309]El Bombastico[/re]: I know. Too much of that shit will make me hate Obama and rap. Are there any rappers who could actually pull off a good Obama track? I cannot think of any. (Although there have been some good references.)

Delicious June 7, 2008 at 2:22 pm

Nice speech. I hate her less today.

StrangelyBrown June 7, 2008 at 2:22 pm

I thought that Drudge headline was trying to imply that Barack’s ears caused the oil spike yesterday.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 2:22 pm

[re=10303]ronaldpagan[/re]: Sorry Pagan. I forgot about your deep seated desire to be one of Mitt Romney’s wives.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:23 pm

[re=10309]El Bombastico[/re]:

It’s better than the prospect of three months of pro-McCain rap songs. Wait, that probably won’t happen.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:28 pm

[re=10309]El Bombastico[/re]:

God, Diddy has a video blog up on HuffPo where he talks about why he supports Obama. I’m scared to watch it.

Did the Nas song have a “make way, the new, improved JFK” lyric, or was that just me?

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 2:28 pm

[re=10313]ronaldpagan[/re]: “Are there any rappers who could actually pull off a good Obama track?”

MC Skat Kat.

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 2:29 pm

Well, Jamie Colby on Fox announced that Fox is “going to replay Hillary’s entire election speach . . . live at 5pm Eastern.”

Thank God, because I wouldn’t want to have to seat through a replay of the replay.

Oh, and apparently someone peed in your popcorn.

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 2:29 pm

[re=10317]obfuscator[/re]: I bet Vanilla Ice is working on a pro-McCain rap song, right now.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:33 pm

[re=10317]obfuscator[/re]: I would play any pro-McCain rap song at any party!

And yeah, it does say that about JFK.

http://www.elyricsworld.com/black_president_lyrics_nas.html

WonkaBee June 7, 2008 at 2:36 pm

[re=10321]jagorev[/re]: John McCain for you and me, bring back sniggerocracy

Jim Newell June 7, 2008 at 2:39 pm

[re=10312]Ken Layne[/re]: It was very important; so important that hundreds of people commented, but no one actually read. Hurray for blogs!

Lionel Hutz Esq. June 7, 2008 at 2:39 pm

[re=10320]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: Dear God, she said it again 20 minutes latter. Either she or her teleprompter are really stupid.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:46 pm

[re=10322]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Barry campaign site already has a “Thanks, Hillz” thingy up.

“Muthafuckas better recognize John McCain, he killin’ terrorists just like John McClane”

/i just made myself puke

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:46 pm

[re=10255]jagorev[/re]: I didn’t see a “blame the patriarchy” meta-narrative. I did think there was something tacky about talking about how “we weren’t able to shatter the glass ceiling” when the actual nominee is every bit as historically unprecedented. But other than that…she talked about abolition, she talked about the progress that’s been made, she talked about the precedent she’s set for women’s rights. I thought it was incredibly classy, optimistic, and forward-thinking, and I wish she’d done more of that throughout her campaign.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 2:51 pm

[re=10326]obfuscator[/re]: I was thinking more like “I’m gonna Walnut all over your face kid…” Eazy went to Republican conventions, God rest his soul.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:57 pm

[re=10328]ronaldpagan[/re]:

“My friends, you can all can get deez.”

“Deez what?”

“Deez Walnuts on your face, bitch! What!”

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 2:58 pm

[re=10328]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Didn’t Eazy also go to a White House dinner or some other fundraising function?

valencia June 7, 2008 at 3:03 pm

I thought I said this already ?? Maybe it was a dream. I’m thinking that Obama must have promised her she could be the Director of the CIA.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 3:03 pm

[re=10330]obfuscator[/re]: Heh. I just read his Wikipedia page because of this. About his attendance at the Republican senatorial fundraiser: “When Eazy-E spoke about the incident that year, he denied any allegiance to the G.O.P. “How the f—can I be a Republican when I got a song called ‘F—tha Police’?” he asked. “I ain’t shit—ain’t a Republican or Democrat. I didn’t even vote. My vote ain’t going to help! I don’t give a f—who’s the president.”[4]

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 3:06 pm

[re=10330]obfuscator[/re]: You’re right.

Eazy-E accepted an invitation to a lunch benefitting the Republican Senatorial Inner Circle hosted by President George H.W. Bush in March of 1991, a little less than a year after conservatives had deemed his music obscene in Florida. The event received a lot of media attention. Eazy-E explained in an interview that his invitation was due to a $2,500 campaign contribution, which he had made to a Republican politician who stood against censorship. His appearance among the Republican powers left many of his fans nervous, since Bush’s economic policies generally were not seen to be promoting the welfare of inner-city African-Americans. When Eazy-E spoke about the incident that year, he denied any allegiance to the G.O.P. “How the f—can I be a Republican when I got a song called ‘F—tha Police’?” he asked. “I ain’t shit—ain’t a Republican or Democrat. I didn’t even vote. My vote ain’t going to help! I don’t give a f—who’s the president.”

Why can Wikipedia say “shit” and not “fuck”?

Also: WHERE IS EVERYONE ON THIS SECOND-MOST HISTORIC DAY THIS WEEK? I know it’s Saturday and stuff, but they can’t all be getting drunk yet.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 3:07 pm

[re=10331]valencia[/re]: You did say it, and I agreed. She’s a fighter.

[re=10332]El Bombastico[/re]: Damn we posted the same quote! Pool party foul!

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 3:08 pm

Oh Eric Wright, you so crazy.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 3:13 pm

So do we know where this is on a practical level? Did Hillary concede? Does Bear-Bear get her delegates?

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 3:17 pm

[re=10337]ronaldpagan[/re]:

She never made any specific reference to her pledged delegates. That probably would have been too much for her hardcores to take this soon. Some of them would have booed even more.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 3:26 pm

[re=10338]obfuscator[/re]: Oh word. But I don’t think she even said “concede”, did she? “Wholeheartedly endorsing Next-President-of-the-United-States Obama” would definitely imply as much, though?

valencia June 7, 2008 at 3:32 pm

Apparently it was not a dream … I see now that I must become a very bright avatar.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 3:38 pm

[re=10341]ronaldpagan[/re]:

I’m not sure if there’s a technical side to “concede/endorse” like there is to “end/suspend”.

I’m like you, I would have felt more comfortable if she said something along the lines of “I promise that my campaign is now over pinky swear on the bible honest injun.”

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 3:40 pm

[re=10343]valencia[/re]: Pick a good one. For a while now this conversation’s been looking like Barry, Knut, Barry, Knut, Barry, Knut, and I love it!

valencia June 7, 2008 at 3:51 pm

obfuscator: At least someone would have mentioned the injuns !

ronaldpagan: I am a virgin blogger so pls bare with me.

itgetter June 7, 2008 at 3:52 pm

[re=10314]Delicious[/re]: This pretty much sums it up for me.

Best visual of the day: Terry McAuliffe’s bold “polo under suit jacket with collar arranged 70′s style” look.

I could only love him more if he had popped the collar. Another missed opportunity by the Clinton campaign. Sigh.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 3:58 pm

[re=10345]ronaldpagan[/re]:

I wandered over to the Hillz site. I was encouraged when I saw the front page appeal to support Barry. Of course, there was also this:

“ASKING FOR DONATIONS FOR OB…………..OMG….I CANT BELIEVE IT IS OVER……….I FEEL FAINT

by robinP at 6/7/2008 12:34:35 PM”

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 4:03 pm

So the blogosphere response seems overwhelmingly (if not unanimously) positive. Even Sullivan has nice things to say (relatively). Anyone seen anything negative?

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 4:08 pm

a comment on the Hillary site:

“We will support John McCain in November to help defeat Obama.

Yesterday I received an email from Sen Joe Lieberman asking us Hillary Supporters to vote for John McCain.”

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 4:15 pm

[re=10349]obfuscator[/re]: Haha, we’ve got a fainter!

[re=10350]El Bombastico[/re]: I’ve seen some negativity here. I’m over at Jezebel where people are denying that there was an absence of specific praise for Obama (which there totes was, and I think it was glaring considering that this was an endorsement speech.)

But Hillary’s was a really fucking good speech, and I’ll stand by it.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 4:21 pm

[re=10350]El Bombastico[/re]: Only from the pro-Hilz sites. People are trying to decode her secret message so that it still reads “Den-ver, Den-ver”. Kind of sad, really. I think a lot of the more vitriolic people are the ones who’ve never gotten involved before, they feel personally betrayed.
Welcome to politics, kiddies!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 4:21 pm

[re=10351]obfuscator[/re]: I would love to see that utter twat’s email to Hillary supporters. If me and Joe Lieberman are ever in the same city at the same time, one of us isn’t gonna make it out alive.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 4:23 pm

[re=10352]ronaldpagan[/re]:

All the bitters are ALL CAPS SCREAMING about never supporting him, voting for McCain, going to Denver, etc. “WE’LL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER” is pretty damn catchy, though.

Most of them aren’t too bashful about voting for McCain as part of a long-term Hillary 2012 strategy.

“JUST SAY NO TO BO!!!

McCAIN 2008

HILLARY 2012″

TGY June 7, 2008 at 4:23 pm

[re=10305]ronaldpagan[/re]: Good point. Perhaps Al is too busy gunning the motor of the bus he’s driving, waiting for Joe Lieberman to be thrown under it.

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 4:24 pm

[re=10352]ronaldpagan[/re]: Ooh, I bet Sinister Rouge is wielding her mighty wrath! How many commenters will get called “cunty” today (apparently its okay when she says it)?

graceless June 7, 2008 at 4:31 pm

[re=10319]El Bombastico[/re]: Yes, some guy named Chris Paul (I think) I just heard it on the radio. Don’t know what station. But it was very good. Might have been called, “Barack” or something completely different.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 4:32 pm

Someone get Mike Pfleeeeger on the phone and tell him he’s been vindicated:

“I still cannot support obama – i have only hatred in my heart for him, i will never forgive him for taking MY dream away from me.

He COULD HAVE WAITED – he is an egotistical male and had to run now and I will NOT forgive him.”

Goddaaaang, I really need to not look at that site.

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 4:34 pm

[re=10352]ronaldpagan[/re]: Ha. It’s been awhile since I’ve read a good 200+ comment Jezebel post. Since I got banned at Gawker, it hardly seems worth it. You’re catching it from both sides.

[re=10357]Cicada[/re]: Yes! SinisterRouge had some interesting thoughts on the Andrews business.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 4:35 pm

[re=10357]Cicada[/re]: You should come by! Although I think we’ve reached a consensus…Hillary’s speech didn’t talk that much about Obama, specifically, but it’s cool.

And for anyone who’s curious, here’s Joe “Twat” Lieberman’s email to Hillary supporters. Unless he stepped it up a notch; this was from a couple days ago. (Isn’t “Twat” the perfect word to describe that twat?)

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/06/joseph-lieberman-launches-group.html

Pacodenero June 7, 2008 at 4:42 pm

After following this primary on wonkette, i thank you for making me more happy and giving me some truly funny laugh out loud moments. But i totally missed Hillery’s speech and went to the beach instead! CHEERS!

Gopherit v2.0 June 7, 2008 at 4:44 pm

[re=10359]obfuscator[/re]: I think I dated her.

onosideboard June 7, 2008 at 4:45 pm

Heh heh, from Hillary’s “blog”:

WE REMAIN YOUR LOYAL SUPPORTERS AND IF YOU DECIDE TO RUN FOR VICE PRESIDENT WE WILL VOTE FOR YOU AND THE REST OF THE DEMOCRAT LEADERS BUT WE WILL LEAVE A BLANK SPOT IN THE PRESIDENT BOX.

WE MUST HAVE FULL CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE. OUR WAY OF PROTEST WILL BE A DEMOCRAT VICE PRESIDENT, A DEMOCRAT HOUSE AND SENATE AND IF THERE IS NOT ENOUGH VOTES FROM THE OBAMA CAMP FOR BO THEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY WE WILL HAVE A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT AND A DEMOCRAT FEMALE PRESIDENT (HILLARY).

18 MILLION STRONG WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE MUST REFORM OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND GET RID OF THE CAUCUS SYSTEM THAT CAUSED SO MUCH DIVISION !!!!!!

WE WILL BE PATIENT AND WAIT UNTIL AUGUST WITH HOPE THAT OUR CHOSEN LEADER IS NOMINATED FOR PRESIDENT. IF HILLARY CHOOSES TO BE VICE PRESIDENT WE WILL GET HER ELECTED.
by AMBER HOUSTON at 6/7/2008 3:19:20 PM

I’m just… no words.

Magsbe June 7, 2008 at 4:45 pm

It bothers the hell out of me that she didn’t wear black more during her campaign – it suits her, she actually looked good today. Who the hell was advising this chick on her wardrobe?

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 4:45 pm

[re=10361]ronaldpagan[/re]: Yeesh. Lieberman and twat go together like PB & J. The opportunistic exploiters are out in force!
Apparently there is a website called Hillary Supporters For McCain, which may be a scam. The guy who runs it claims to be a “life-long Democrat” and a “Texas red-neck”, but campaign finance records show that he’s made no contributions to Hillary. He also contributed to the Green party in 2004, so it seems more likely he’s into supporting spoilers. He’s getting people to donate money to start up a 527 to attack Obama. Creep!

Cicada June 7, 2008 at 4:50 pm

Ciao folks, got to go the gym! Thanks for making this primary so much more bearable. I’ll be counting on you in the GE, which looks to be a down and dirty race-baiting slimefest. Wooh-hoo!

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 4:51 pm

[re=10364]onosideboard[/re]: Oh my God I am shaking with laughter. Hillary for VP, no one for Pres!

Rock on!

[re=10365]Magsbe[/re]: I know right? She only discovered blue, like, a month ago, and then she’s been wearing the hell out of it (and looking fantastic.) And everyone looks great in black. Her stylist probably thought it was too depressing.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 4:55 pm

OK, so if anyone is curious, here is the entire video of Hillary’s speech.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25021292#25021292

It’s actually way better the second time around (I was trying to find out whether people really booed an “African-American president.” They didn’t. I’m delusional.)

And here’s the transcript:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/07/transcript-hillary-clintons-speech/

[re=10366]Cicada[/re]: Bye Cicada! Exploiters and spoilers can kiss my ass.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 4:56 pm

Here’s what these bitter Hillary supporters who say they’ll vote for McCain don’t seem to realize:

When John McCain shifts the makeup of the Supreme Court, and said Court overturns Roe v. Wade and a number of social programs, noone—not even Hillary Clinton—will be able to get them back.

Obviously, these people don’t understand that the law of the Supreme Court is the law of the motherfucking land and that Hillary couldn’t just have a “re-do” if she were elected in ’12.

Honestly. Could someone explain this to them, please?

El Bombastico June 7, 2008 at 5:00 pm

[re=10370]loquaciousmusic[/re]: Um… first we have to explain to them that the President and Vice President are not separately voted upon, based on onosideboard’s excerpt above. Then we’ll move on to the three branches of government. Then we’ll explain… oh wait, they gotta go watch “Two and a Half Men”, we lost our chance.

Magsbe June 7, 2008 at 5:02 pm

[re=10370]loquaciousmusic[/re]: If they were educated enough to understand how the Supreme Court works, they wouldn’t be so bitter.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 5:02 pm

[re=10370]loquaciousmusic[/re]: You will NEVER hear a fertile Hillary supporter talk about defecting to McCain. The ones who say that bullshit are all way post-menopausal, and they want grandchildren by any means necessary!

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 5:08 pm

[re=10373]ronaldpagan[/re]:

One comment on her site was from a woman who actually said something like “BO SAYS MCCAIN WILL END ROE V. WADE! BIG DEAL MY BABY MAKING DAYS ARE OVER!”

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 5:09 pm

[re=10371]El Bombastico[/re]: I know, I know. There should’ve been more snark, but I just read that letter on McCain’s behalf from Motherfucker Lieberman. God, I hate that man.

Did I tell you guys that I met him once? It was the last time he ran, and he was due to arrive at a diner in the next town over. You can read the story here. I also published a rather prescient letter in the local paper. I’ll be doing much more of this the next time he runs. Assmunch.

Whore Diamond in the Rough June 7, 2008 at 5:15 pm

[re=10299]obfuscator[/re]: I’m only going by what the other commentors are saying about the speech, but calling out the WV and KY bitters would not have been the time or place right now. If anything that would have turned them off. Keep in mind it’s not just those two states, but in all the states there are are people who won’t vote for Obama simply because of race. There’s two men in the race not and people like that will vote for the white one.

[re=10345]ronaldpagan[/re]: “Are there any rappers who could actually pull off a good Obama track?”

Hmm, I would think Nas would, or maybe Jay-Z, but another choice would be The Roots.

Whore Diamond in the Rough June 7, 2008 at 5:16 pm

I’m going to take a guess here that she didn’t mention the women who tried to run for president before her in her speech.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 5:21 pm

[re=10376]Whore Diamond in the Rough[/re]:

I thought the speech had quite a few strong points. Most of the things I didn’t care for were based on aesthetic points. I agree that the bitterest bitters will need a lot of hand-holding and gentle nudges, definitely.

loquaciousmusic June 7, 2008 at 5:23 pm

[re=10377]Whore Diamond in the Rough[/re]: No, because they aren’t her.

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 5:25 pm

[re=10377]Whore Diamond in the Rough[/re]:

Shirley Chisholm says what?

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 5:37 pm

[re=10377]Whore Diamond in the Rough[/re]: Good point.

I think someone should encourage Harriet Christian and Geraldine Ferraro to have a rap battle someday. (No shoulder brushing though.)

obfuscator June 7, 2008 at 5:45 pm

Thanks for wasting my entire afternoon, Wonkette! I’m off to work, as I need to make money so I can donate it to my favorite arugula eating elitist goofball presidential candidate.

Crow T. Robot June 7, 2008 at 6:05 pm

I kinda like that pictures…makes me feel a little Oleanna-y in my pants, if you know what I mean.

CometHasTheFloor June 7, 2008 at 6:19 pm

[re=10370]loquaciousmusic[/re]: I’ve actually heard the argument from da bitters that, since the Senate will have 60 Dem votes dontcha know, there’s no reason to fear any radical, Roe-threatening SCOTUS justices in a McCain administration. Riiiiight.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 6:37 pm

[re=10384]CometHasTheFloor[/re]: That’s fucked up! I don’t want those racist bitters playing chicken with my uterus. They should all take Florence Stein of South Dakota’s example, and die.

Black Cat June 7, 2008 at 6:48 pm

[re=10384]CometHasTheFloor[/re]: Yeah, because it’s not like the numbers in the Senate won’t be able to change 2 years later. They clearly don’t truly care about women’s rights if they are willing to take that bet.

populucious June 7, 2008 at 7:12 pm

She needed to hire Donna Brazile as her speechwriter:

Barack Obama is my boo!
He should be your boo too!

phillyman June 7, 2008 at 7:14 pm

Hope this isn’t a precursor, but Big Brown lost in New York……

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 7:53 pm

[re=10388]phillyman[/re]: This is an interesting turn of events…Obama will lose in New York but win in Kentucky!

(Please tell me he didn’t lose to a super-old horse…)

Son of Mark Penn June 7, 2008 at 8:11 pm

It was a super-old horse with broken shoulders and chipmunk cheeks :(

DoctorCulturae June 7, 2008 at 8:48 pm

I missed the speech but just watched it on msnbc.com. No cutways for reactions, just Hilz in 3/4 shot.

Interesting she mentions states she thinks she may carry or could deliver (NY & AK) and her last victory, SD. Unfortunately it is achingly apparent she & the bitters thought this election was still about gender. It was not. It was about her actions and behavior during the campaign. The glass ceiling does exist and is likely very evident to teh morans in the culture. To frame the “struggle” in those terms is to cheapen those who agree with her on this, but have reacted with disgust at her demeanor in the campaign.

She clearly has accepted O’s offer on taking the health care banner forward. In what form will be curious (VP? as lead in the Senate?) to find out.

Also, she clearly has and is undergoing a reckoning.

Watch the replay and paying attention to her eyes and then note her tone lowering at the end. Her extraordinary steely resolve is evident. Her extraordinary anger is present (causing empathy with the bitters). Her eyes are very revealing here…. finally, of the person who does care about public service, even when gauzed over by personal ambition. Her eyes are otherworldly.

This experience will likely make her an even stronger person. That she was able to shift to a softer tone, authentically, at the end just might bring a lot of us back to her. But why did she say ‘my friends’?

Unfortunately, given the earlier behavior, there will need to be a lot more time allowed to pass and present attention brought to her next actions till I”m able to believe. The political culture O has established cannot be allowed to be tarnished by a speech that should have occurred on Tuesday night. That others in the party had to apply heat is pathetic or evidence of a level of stubbornness that is astounding.

But still, thanks Hilz. This is OUR moment to move forward. Walk the walk based on your talk and I’ll believe your ‘yes we can.’

Words June 7, 2008 at 8:50 pm

Ronaldpagan: @ why there wasn’t a big crowd: too damn hot.

I give Hils a 7.0 — points off for waiting to even mention her endorsement of Hopey-Wan-Kenobi as well as too much @ her her her. However, at least she did give in finally.

[re=10388]phillyman[/re]: that was Heartbreaking to watch……. man. but what a windfall for the long shot bettors! (not bitters, teehee; sorry, bad pun)

also Ronaldpagan: @ Song of the South: don’t remember reading where Walt got the okay from J.C. Harris to use those stories to begin with…. or that Harris bothered to get the okay from the black folks he stole them from originally. So much for intellectual property rights……

jagorev June 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm

Gah, this thread takes forever to load, and it made my browser crash (yes, I’m running IE 5 on Windows ME). PLEASE BRING BACK PAGINATION OR I’LL WRITE IN HILLARY IN NOVEMBER

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 9:39 pm

We do need more pages! And:

[re=10393]Words[/re]: Very interesting, but when was I talking about “Song of the South?”

[re=10392]DoctorCulturae[/re]: Does anyone really, honestly think that McCain could beat Barry in NY?

DoctorCulturae June 7, 2008 at 10:02 pm

[re=10395]ronaldpagan[/re]: Not that I know of, but Hilz has claimed or tries to lead one to believe, that she “has” 18M supporters who voted for her. As if those votes are in stone. I don’t know what the latest numbers are, but there will likely remain some bitters who will remain bitters. NY? At this point no, but in 2012 or 2016? The groundwork has been laid for her or someone else to claim that constituency. If it isn’t her then someone else will have to go through her to get it: NY, AK, & her last victory when everyone was calling on her to exit, SD.

Deez am mahn. U kenn no haz.

Whore Diamond in the Rough June 7, 2008 at 10:14 pm

[re=10384]CometHasTheFloor[/re]: Pfft! As PUSSIFIED as the current DEM majority congress is? Yeah, they can keep dreaming.

ronaldpagan June 7, 2008 at 10:22 pm

[re=10397]DoctorCulturae[/re]: Sadly enough, I think Arkansas and Florida are out of Obama’s reach. Not that he shouldn’t try to prove me wrong. South Dakota will vote for an abortion-mongering Democrat the day West Virginia votes for a black man.

That is scary about NY…I want, so deeply, not to believe you…

DoctorCulturae June 7, 2008 at 10:49 pm

[re=10399]ronaldpagan[/re]: Sorry if I haven’t been clear. I do not expect McDubya winning NY at all, just that Hilz might lead any bitters who will believe it she will be giving it to Hopey as a gift.

Hilz will also lead the thought that she could deliver FL and Hopey cannot. Maybe Bear-bear should consider Netanyahoo as VP to win FL?

itgetter June 7, 2008 at 11:13 pm

I would just like to note that when I was grocery shopping today, I found myself humming “Hillary in the House.” And for that, I am deeply ashamed.

Words June 7, 2008 at 11:32 pm

[re=10395]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Sorry if I had wrong contributor… this is a LONNNNNGGG thread.. thought you made the comment @ Brer Rabbit and Walt D. earlier…. Beg your pardon, sir/madam…. most contrite… :-)

Words June 7, 2008 at 11:43 pm

[re=10395]ronaldpagan[/re]:

Well, shit. I can’t find it now, nor the notorious contributor… It, it, it…. MUST BE the Spanish Inquisition!!! NO ONE suspects the Spanish Inquisition!!!

Go back to sleep….

ladymacbeth June 8, 2008 at 12:18 am

[re=10401]itgetter[/re]: thank you. you posted this 12 hours ago and i STILL have that bloody song in my head.

siiiiigggghhhhh. i suspect it will be there for another 12.

Lascauxcaveman June 8, 2008 at 12:44 am

[re=10400]DoctorCulturae[/re]: [re=10399]ronaldpagan[/re]: If McCain wins New York in November I will paint my naked body in silver glitter paint, wear a bright red silk sash that says “4 TEH BITTERS” and decapitate myself with a rusty butter knife; posting the video on youtube for all to enjoy.

In other words, I don’t think NY is in play. Ten Dollars on Big Brown to Win.

itgetter June 8, 2008 at 1:07 am

[re=10404]ladymacbeth[/re]: Either you have tumbled backward through time in some sort of wormhole, or you misread my post, because I posted only an hour ago. But the first explanation is way more fun, and therefore it’s the one I’ll be going with. Please teach me your time traveling ways!

Words June 8, 2008 at 1:48 am

um, Mr. Layne or Mr. Newell: note to self (selves): still no views listed, and yet… 473 comments? — hmmmmm. just askin’

ronaldpagan June 8, 2008 at 3:18 am

Hi. Sorry half my posts started with “OMG.” This was just really exciting. Is anyone still here? Can we write a song?

gurukalehuru June 8, 2008 at 3:55 am

@ronaldpagan Check out Will.I.Am, “Yes We Can.” I, personally, thought it was awesome.

Destonio June 8, 2008 at 4:41 am
phillyman June 8, 2008 at 9:38 am

[re=10394]jagorev[/re]: You think Windows ME is bad?, you should try Hillary ME…..

DangerousLiberal June 8, 2008 at 5:11 pm

My screen says that this post as no views, but 489 comments. Have you asshats been posting without reading the posts again? Just like I am doing now? Have we no shame?

Atoz June 8, 2008 at 6:06 pm

Did anyone else notice that more than once in this speech she made a big deal about “healthcare for EVERY American” …when whether to make coverage mandatory was one of the few policy issues where she and Obama actually differed? Between that, the implication that somehow Obama held a cracking glass ceiling in place, her failure to ever mention Gramps McCain, and her obvious gritted teeth, I just couldn’t see this as the fabulous unity speech.

DoctorCulturae June 8, 2008 at 6:37 pm

[re=10365]Magsbe[/re]: Hilzz didn’t wear black because the Bitters do not wear black. That would be too hip. She wore bitters yellow and bitters lime.

DoctorCulturae June 8, 2008 at 6:42 pm

[re=10546]Atoz[/re]: BO made special (and to my viewing, tortured) mention of Hilz in his St. Paul speech of her continuing to her fight for health care. To me this meant he has either offered of boxed her in for that as an issue she could pursue in some form. This happened after the tsunami of Hilz won’t drop out unless you make her VP stuff from the MT, SD primaries. It was like: hey babe, you want to force my hand on VP, I’ll remind everyone you’ve said you want to get healthcare, but you did fail at that the first time. Very shrewd.

tocute2btrue June 9, 2008 at 8:43 am

I would have liked Hillary as VP, she could have run the Country while Bill and I went snakeing.
Michelle would have no part of it, she said those Clintons would have my Black Ass shot.

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