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Another Meaningless But Still Delightful Hypothetical Electoral Map

This general election prediction map comes from the famous angry blogger Kos. It pits Unelectable Obama vs. Maverick McCain and allocates states according to the current Pollster.com state polling averages, so there’s no “funny business” with the math. While the numbers grant Obama Ohio and Pennsyvlania, they don’t give him Michigan (supposedly a must-win), Florida, Virginia or Nevada. The result? Obama 283, McCain 255. And this is how Al Gore will become president again at the Convention. [Daily Kos]


2:53 PM on Tue June 3 2008
By Jim Newell
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  1. articulate moran says at 2:57 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Wait, where are Hillary’s states?

  2. ForeignSickSpecialist says at 2:57 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    But Pennsylvania and Ohio only count if Hillary wins, so this is total balderdash!

  3. norbziness says at 2:57 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    255? Whole lotta stupid states.

  4. Patty Dumpling says at 2:58 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Not to get all wonky, but http://www.fivethirtyeight.com is actually more quantitative than this, using statistical regressions and what amounts to a Monte Carlo simulation to predict the election on a daily basis. It’s a great blog.

    I’m done now.

  5. AudicityofHope says at 2:59 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Just for once, I’d like to see America’s penis get really ice cold blue in the fall.

    BTW, Wonkette, you forgot one fundamental element on this here map…Where the fuck is John King?!

  6. shortsshortsshorts says at 2:59 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    i lIKe tO cOloR AS wELl

  7. DudeLooksLikeALady says at 2:59 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Iowa?!? Really?!? Did Obama promise the Feds would buy 1 trillion gallons of ethanol or somethign?

  8. AngryBlakGuy says at 2:59 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    …this doesn’t take into consideration the “Great Vagina Civil War” in which Florida and Michigan CHOPPED off the electoral map because they are peninsulas and peninsulas look like PENISES!!!

  9. ReelectTilden says at 3:00 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Indiana? Seriously?

  10. Cicada says at 3:02 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    And the country will be re-christened Happy Unicorn Fun Love Land!

    I HATE crap like this, it is too far out to make real predictions based on polls. You hear that, Hilltards/Obamabots? CRAP!

  11. ManchuCandidate says at 3:02 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    It almost looks like the Canada 2.0 map from 2004 with a few exceptions. If worse come to worse, I can live with Canada City 2.0. But remember, you have to say aboot and eh. And you’d better like Tim Hortons or else.

  12. AngryBlakGuy says at 3:02 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    …can someone use Hill-Tard math and explain to me how the Democrat’s have had a higher turn out in every state and still manage to lose states in the General election?

  13. Serolf Divad says at 3:03 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Obama should just promise that once there’s a Mulsim in the whitehouse, the Saudis will ensure that gas prices fall by 60%.

  14. Jobbotch says at 3:03 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    No New York? Really?

  15. AudicityofHope says at 3:03 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    AngryBlakGuy: I though Michigan was the vagina to Florida’s penis? That’s why I continue to say that they should go fuck themselves!

  16. Godless Liberal * says at 3:06 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    And so for the next four years we will hear every day about how the electoral college does not represent the will of the people, if a candidate only has to win three states (all gay) and that’s enough to be president.

  17. AngryBlakGuy says at 3:06 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    …283 to 255? If it is that close then Obama is a freaking failure!

  18. ronaldpagan says at 3:07 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    There’s no way Obama will win those assholes in Florida, but I think MI will be his baby.

  19. AudicityofHope says at 3:08 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    AudicityofHope: correction: *thought*

  20. NotUrEvryDayWEzl says at 3:08 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    AudicityofHope: You make a really good point: flip that bad boy around and insert into Lack Michigan… and it destroys Chicago in a wave of conservative potency!

  21. Stone Soup says at 3:09 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Get ready to call Obama your “Daddy”.

  22. shortsshortsshorts says at 3:10 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    wE SHoULd uSe mOor cOlorZ. dAt mAKEs accURAczY.

  23. weirdiowasculpture says at 3:10 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Florida is pretty penile, I’ll grant you, but note that there are no corresponding balls to go with it. As for Michigan, it doesn’t look anything like a vagina. Now LAKE Michigan, THAT looks like a vagina.

  24. StrangelyBrown says at 3:10 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    The best consequence of the 2008 election could very well be Florida’s ultimate transformation into a solid Red state, meaning that it will join the same electoral dustbin as Texas, and we’ll never hear about that godforsaken place ever again.

  25. Pop Socket says at 3:11 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Patty Dumpling: fivethirtyeight has Hillary being the tougher opponent against McCain. Don’t let her quit now that she has Obama right where she wants him, lulled into a false sense of victory.

  26. weirdiowasculpture says at 3:13 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Lake Erie also looks kind of rectal, which would also account for the smell.

  27. Pop Socket says at 3:13 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Idaho, Nevada, and West Virginia go Obama? I want some of those drugs.

  28. tunamelt says at 3:14 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    shortsshortsshorts: Facts are only facts if illustrated with many colors in a graph.

  29. Lionel Hutz Esq. says at 3:14 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Did these polls explain that Obama was a Muslim and blew up the Pentagon when he was a lad doing cocain?

    If not, I suspect liberal bias.

  30. Glenn Beck' says at 3:16 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    McCain can’t win New Hampshire, his illegitimate black baby will sink him….

  31. Lionel Hutz Esq. says at 3:19 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    I call shaningans! Hillary won Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, California, New Jersey, West Virgina and Kentucky. What sort of sexist decided to give those states to mens?

  32. tunamelt says at 3:19 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Also, it would help tremendously if this were animated or featured a talking, animated state to explain this to me. Like Schoolhouse Rock.

  33. Godless Liberal * says at 3:24 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    None of those states are important. The election has been decided because Jimmy Carter just threw all of womankind under the bus.

    Wait, didn’t he already endorse Obama with a wink and a nod like a month ago?

  34. jagorev says at 3:26 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Another Drudge Siren:
    HILLARY OPEN TO VEEP SLOT

    In other news, sky is blue, water is wet.

  35. ForeignSickSpecialist says at 3:29 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Why don’t we paint them all black, like the soon to be formerly White House?

  36. bitchincamaro says at 3:30 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    “Democrats have the money advantage…” Uh, since when?
    If the Dems had the Repub money, they’d burn theirs.
    If you can’t get this right, why should we look at your
    stupid map?

  37. ForeignSickSpecialist says at 3:31 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Lionel Hutz Esq.: Correction. It was CRACK, according to the wise sage of South Dakota. Stop trying to paint Balack Osama as an elitist powder cokehead.

  38. Maj. Major Major Major says at 3:32 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Obama will NOT win Indiana. It’s filled with nothing but Bitters. Who can blame them? They live in Indiana…

  39. Patty Dumpling says at 3:34 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Pop Socket: Yeah, I’ve been ignoring that aspect of it. It all boils down to the Florida ancients/Jews/Bitters in that case.

  40. Obamaton says at 3:34 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    jagorev: If I had a dirty mind I would have read that post…never mind.

  41. Gopherit v2.0 says at 3:35 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Why am I always on the red team?!! I’m gonna start sulking now.

  42. queeraselvis v 2.0 says at 3:36 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    I’m voting for Tossup in the General. It’s got winnerability!

  43. Tits_LaRue says at 3:37 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    I think we need a much more detailed map, like, with the google earth-super-zoom on individual voters shaking their fists next to their candidate’s lawn signs.

  44. Gopherit v2.0 says at 3:39 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    jagorev: Without Harriet Christian, all is lost! Hillary HAS to be president….she has to!

  45. obfuscator says at 3:39 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Hey… since when do caucus states count in this thing?

  46. tunamelt says at 3:40 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Tits_LaRue: People should just have floating jewels over their heads showing their voting tendencies, like how the gem in the Sims shows their mood.

  47. AudicityofHope says at 3:41 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    I’m on teevee talking with Don Lemon, everybody!

  48. Once again, The Dividers are busy doing their weasel work. And why not? It worked for them last time, and it will work again. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  49. wonk_the_heck says at 3:44 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    MI is the hand, FL is the penis. wankers.

  50. MathewBrooks says at 3:48 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    I just hope Obama wears a Daishiki on inauguration day.

  51. capitol-hillbilly says at 3:49 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    ReelectTilden: absolutely no way in indiana

  52. Tits_LaRue says at 3:57 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    tunamelt: hahaha, can we lock PaulTards up in a doorless room until they pee on the floor and eventually die, begging for their lives in that cute, unintelligible gibberish that the Sims speak?

  53. Shmucky DeFukhed says at 3:58 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Ooh, a projection from the Kos! I’ll just bookmark this page and see how close they come the day after McCain wins.

  54. Gopherit v2.0 says at 4:01 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: Nice to see the truth in advertising with your handle if you’re gonna troll. Saves us the trouble.

  55. Shmucky DeFukhed says at 4:04 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Gopherit v2.0: I’m not trolling. I really have bookmarked the page. And I really will revisit it November 5th.

    Have a nice day! :)

  56. Patty Dumpling: Good site. Shows Obama winning marginally by 271 to 266 electoral votes, which is much more likely than the landslide scenarios.

    Hey, first President-of-color. No one said it’d be easy. :p

  57. shortsshortsshorts says at 4:22 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: Your name suits you well, Mr. Fuckhead.

  58. Patty Dumpling says at 4:28 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    TGY: I’m pretty into it- it seems legit. The guy who runs it was a statistician for MLB.

  59. Shmucky DeFukhed says at 4:29 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    shortsshortsshorts: Don’t you want the Kos prediction revisited on Nov. 5th?

  60. Gopherit v2.0 says at 4:29 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: Can you take pictures of the blessed occasion and forward them? I don’t know why, but the inconsolable tears of a McCainiac make me smile.

    And a good day to you, too. :mrgreen:

  61. Patty Dumpling says at 4:34 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    @Fuckhead: Can’t we revisit it on Nov. 6th? I’ll be too hungover from my Obama victory celebration to examine old maps on the 5th.

  62. Lionel Hutz Esq. says at 4:35 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    obfuscator:

    In fact, the only states that should count are those that voted for Hillary. All the rest just showed that they are anti-American and Muslim.

    Gopherit v2.0: shortsshortsshorts: Play nice you two. Shmucky just hasn’t heard that McCain has already promised to step down and make Hillary president should he be able to stay awake through election day.

  63. shortsshortsshorts says at 4:39 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Lionel Hutz Esq.: Only for you, as I am in need of an attorney.

    Shmucky DeFukhed: I’ll bite. But who will throw the election at WALNUTS?

  64. Gopherit v2.0 says at 4:54 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Lionel Hutz Esq.: I was nice. Well, maybe not about the tears, but he did name himself Shmucky DeFukhed.

    Oh, Christ…..I’m sounding like Hillary. Mea Culpa.

  65. Shmucky DeFukhed says at 5:13 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Can I ask you guys a completely serious question? What do you guys see in Obama that has you so excited? He has no executive experience, no military experience, very limited experience at politics at the federal level, no experience at all at reaching across the aisle, no working knowledge of basic economics, he has the public approval of a long list of America-haters (Fidel Castro, Hamas, Louis Farrakhan, New Black Panther Party, Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, etc.), he seems intent on resurrecting Neville Chamberlain’s foreign policies and FDR’s economic policies, and he lost 7 of the 10 most populous states to a former First Lady (a questionable candidate in her own right).

    All kidding and trollery aside, how can any rational person be optimistic about this guy?

  66. articulate moran says at 5:30 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: You forgot that he is also black.

    but all trollery aside, I think you are dumb.

  67. Lionel Hutz Esq. says at 5:30 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: In other words, he is more qualified than our current president. Good point. And, hell, unlike McCain, he actually knows who we are fighting, why, and how many troops are doing the fighting.

    You also know that you talking points (half of which are wrong or meaningless, but mroe on that later.) could also describe Abraham Lincoln.

    But in all seriousness, what get’s us excited is that he has a buldge in his pants nearly as big as Dick Cheney’s.

  68. Gopherit v2.0 says at 5:30 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: Nice straw man you built there. Who the fuck would vote for that guy?

    I reject most of your characterizations and your inferences. Feel free to back them up with evidence, but you aren’t going to get
    a defense of the guy you described. He doesn’t exist.

  69. Gopherit v2.0 says at 5:32 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Lionel Hutz Esq.: What Hutz said.

  70. StrangelyBrown says at 5:32 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: Because he’s running against John McCain.

  71. shortsshortsshorts says at 5:36 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Shmucky DeFukhed: Google it.

    But I commend all of you for displaying the truth, that he is BLACK. Usually I’m all over someone like you with Gopherit, but I don’t think you are worth it. You aren’t repulsive, you’re just unlikeable.

  72. Recall Idaho says at 6:14 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Canada always goes white.

  73. Check Out My Rack says at 6:40 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    What is it that keeps the blue out of the island nation of New Hampshire - the credit checks? Lord, they must be proud!

  74. Recall Idaho: That’s why it’s The Great White North? Or is cause they don’t let black humans in?

  75. Shmucky DeFukhed says at 11:18 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    Hmmm, I figured as much.

  76. Smitros_Defteros says at 11:27 pm, June 3rd, 2008

    AudicityofHope:

    We could also use the purple melding thing as seen in 2004. Straight (so to speak) out of the Bullock and Jones catalog.

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