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Bill should perform behind chicken wire so all the panties tossed from the audience will not smack him in the face while he is giving his speech.

There is an appalling lack of sarcasm in that headline.

How about "Bill Clinton Practices His Love on the Women of West Virginia"?

Memmmmries, like the corners of my mind...

She's lucky Bill didn't have a taser.

I'm sorry to say this... don't throw bricks at me... but Peggy Noonan's column actually makes sense today...

[online.wsj.com]

Oh, and Bill Clinton has always been a jerk. But when you're winning, being a jerk doesn't seem as disgusting as when you're losing.

I'm not a fashionista, but damn that is a fugly tie.

Crazy bitter white foreigns sounding last name libtard old lady! Aside from her last name, she's supposed to be for the Hilzbot.

That lady got cojones though. It's not easy walking into a situation like that and dealing with the crowd and Mr Fancy Purple Tie.

@FloraWay: The article was amazing.

And then her resultant appearance on Morning Joe, and versus Buchanan, was top notch.

What a cunt.

@FloraWay: Her columns on the topic of Hillary vs. Obama have been dead-on all year. There's no shame in recognizing that even an old conservative wasp can be right some of the time.

@DancyPants: Oe West Virgina. Good times there.

I guess the neat thing about this campaign is deflating of the Clinton myth -- that somehow Bill Clinton was beloved by a majority of the voting population. This guy was elected President for one reason -- Ross Perot. But the press bought the BS hook line and sinker that he was swept in with some great wave of sentiment -- yeah, with 43% of the vote. In fact, he never even reached 50% of the vote in his re-election.

@graceless: Not to be a nitpicker, but that should be "Mammaries...like the corner of my mind..."

@FloraWay:

I am actively pissed off that Hillary Clinton has caused me to agree withPeggy Noonan.

What a dirty trick!

It's amazing to see how fast a legacy can disappear...

Fayetteville is the white version of Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard.

@ManchuCandidate: This drives me crazy about Bill. His outfits are all so "white-trash-made-some-money." He wears french cuff shirts EVERYWHERE -- always with some ridiculous tie. Such a contrast to Hillary's three walmart suits. It's obvious they never talk. EVER. Andrea Mitchell slipped the other day and acknowledged they left Indiana on separate private planes. "Green jobs" my ass.

FAKE! Obama doesn't have any white, let alone women supporters.

what did he say about his speech? um...you're not president anymore, hun

Someone get that man a dashiki.

@FloraWay:
Peggy got a touch of, er, Jungle Fever.

Bill is a BITTER, ELITIST Jerk...I love the tags-"sociopath" and "biggest asshole" in particular

@StoneSoup: Actually this column here best illustrates the significance and the thankful destruction of the Clinton "Legacy".

WSJ: "The Clinton Divorce"
[online.wsj.com]

Stop hating on Bill Clinton. He got his pipe toked by that fatty girl, just a couple few times, and he's still paying the price. Used to be a World leader or something; now he's in a high school gym in Carbondust, W. Va., trying to sell the following line, "Nobody in America has more credibility than [Bosnian sniper survivor Hillary Clinton]." I mean, he's not just old and out of shape, his wife dresses him funny, but is that any reason to hate on the man? There was a time he played the big venues. His appearances were covered by the single digit channels.

I'm telling you, Bill is going to blow a few heart valves before this is over.

@StoneSoup: Nice. Your inability to construct an argument based on fact places you firmly in Bam Bam Hussein's camp just like the confused lying beyotch that Bill back-handed so effectively.

Take a look at end of term approval ratings:

Clinton - 65%
Reagan - 64 %
JFK - 63%
DDE - 59%
GHW Bush - 56%
Ford - 53%
LBJ - 49%
Carter - 34%
Nixon - 24%

Come with the snark or come with facts. Lame assertions get you nowhere.

Go vote for Nader again.

@FloraWay: I think you're right. But I also think that John McCain could totally pull off the "I got the white vote, Baby!" thing. Let's face it, the guy's pretty translucent.

Mammaries... makes me fondly recall Tracey Ullman's sketch about the makeup trailer lady. "I went in for a mammarygram. Haven't had my bazoongas squeezed that hard since the time I worked with Antony Quinn!"

Was this woman even in the U.S. in 1993? In the Northern Hemisphere?

Oh, yea, she was beamed up to the little green-men spaceship during that timeframe.

@GaCracker: You're comparing apples to tractors.

@GaCracker: ...yeah isn't HE!

Ruby Romaine!

Approval ratings ? Nonsense.

The only approval ratings that count are elections.

@GaCracker: What part of the statement Bill Clinton was elected President with 43% of the vote is actually NOT a fact.

Disagree with his assertion that no one loved Bill as much as the press thinks they did (actually, I do too- my folks LOVED Bill Clinton), but he actually did in fact present facts to back his argument.

@GaCracker: lol What happened here? Heh.

@lovelyivy: Wow, i have to go wash myself for
1. reading a wsj article
2. agreeing with it.

Election results are facts, not silly poll "approval ratings" that mean nothing.

@GaCracker: Just because someone says yes in an approval rating poll doesn't mean they love or like someone...I would have said yes, but I never really liked or loved the guy.

@not-so-bright: Seriously. Unless I'm misunderstanding, the woman claims Hillary did nothing about health care after Bill was elected?

God, I hate to actually be speaking up for Hills here, but ... I mean, is that lady really trying to say that Hillary never worked on health care as first lady? I mean, that whole big plan they came out, which at this point we no doubt all wish had been passed, but that back then everyone hated and it died in Congress and caused the '94 Republican takeover and blah blah was her baby, wasn't it? I'm sure that she didn't write it single handedly, but she certainly was one of the major public faces of it. I definitely remember her on TV holding up the Orwellian national insurance card we'd all be carrying once it passed.

@FloraWay: It's weirding me out. What if she turns into Sullivan?

So were those 8 years of peace and prosperity all an illusion too?

Those approval ratings did Al Gore a lot of good in 2000.

By peace, you're ignoring the bombing of Belgrade and Iraq ?

@StoneSoup: ...well he did technically win.

@jfruh: The woman later explained that HRC never did anything AFTER the push failed. I think she has a point considering that HIllary's claim that she basically authored and implemented CHIPS has been disputed by, well, the people that authored and implemented CHIPS. I think the woman's point is that Hillary will do or say anything that is politically expedient and then abandon her promises later. Space cadet or no, I think there is ample evidence she is right.

Is the point whether the lady was right or wrong, or that Bill was a dick regardless? I'm going with the latter.

Yep, even accepting Gore's win, which would take him just over 50%, it ain't no reflection of 65% approval ratings.

@Harvey Birdman: LOL Noonan/Sullivan OTP Fanfiction...

Would that be Sullinoon or Noonivan?

The next Hellary ad will feature Cleavon Little as Obama asking, "Where the white women at?"

That video is sad. He's talking to like 50 people and gets distracted by some shouty hillbilly. I miss the old Bill, the one who didn't have to say stupidly racist shit all the time, and who I actually respected.

@The Real JR: The drama queen bear and the wasp golden girl are unlikely roommates in Noonivan! This fall on CBS.

That's a shame, I sort of equate The Clintons as Bill, who like the cool boss of a company, despite the fact he was a little too generous with the back rubs and arm pats, was still pretty cool, and always threw great office parties, even chipping in for booze, where sadly, you always see his bitch wife.

@GaCracker: take is easy there jethro

John Sydney "Boo-Urns" McCain

Well, well, well. So this is the place where Bill Clinton was SOOOO cheered and loved by all.

HOW the mighty have fallen.

Of course there WERE those of who originally asked (when it came out that Bill really HAD had an affair with Jennifer Flowers and Hillary said if I can forgive him, why can't you) the question "I have nothing to forgive him for...but if Hillary can't trust him, why should I?"

Ah well, I guess his legacy is assured NOW. 2nd Impeached Prez of the US...no matter what anyone else says.

@UnindictedCo-conspirator: True, he was being an ass, but in his defense, it was his wife's event, even if what he said later on was BS. And he's a better speaker, unlike his wife.

@The Real JR: are you sure that wouldn't be slash fiction?

@GaCracker: Not to add to the chorus of people already telling you why you are wrong, but end-of-term approval ratings don't equate to elections anyway. You did nothing to refute the point of StoneSoup. Stone referenced elections results (1992, 1996) and you referenced end-of-term approval polls (2000) so the two don't connect in the way you try to make it sound. Stone's point that Bill wasn't elected with an overwhelming mandate is pretty clearly supported by the idea that he never passed that 50% mark of the popular vote.

@DancyPants: Well, ObamaGirl+40Years there was wrong even about that. I think she comes off looking worse than Bubba in this vid.

@FloraWay: I know!!! I had the same reaction. It makes sense and has some great bits.

"To play the race card as Mrs. Clinton has, to highlight and encourage a sense that we are crudely divided as a nation, to make your argument a brute and cynical "the black guy can't win but the white girl can" is -- well, so vulgar, so cynical, so cold, that once again a Clinton is making us turn off the television in case the children walk by."

@FloraWay: Wow! Great article! sometimes I think I'm just hearing things coming out of that campaign... good to see it has nothing to do with all those drugs in the late 70's.

@Dave J.: Sic transit...

@2goatsforonecow: he really is pathetic. Sort of like a figure in some Arthur Miller play: the formerly-powerful man who now can't get people to take his calls.

And you get the sense he is really pissed at Hillary underneath all this, sort of "lady, if you had done this the way I told you to [whether or not he really did], you'd have this in the bag now, and I could be playing golf, picking out the wallpaper for my new White House office, and looking over resumes of the interns for the second Clinton White House....". I wonder what they do if she loses the nom. Do they limp along, tied together forever?

At this point, I don't blame the Clintons anymore. I blame: Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi,Hillary's superdelegates, Harry Reid, undeclared supers, Hillz supporters...

Of course she wants to continue. Bill got to be president, why can't she? But someone who is not her. Someone who can look at this from the outside, needs to step in and say this is done. They will be the ones responsible if Obama loses in November. The ones with the power to stop this, but did not. The ones who can speak up when she is making racist remarks, tearing the party to pieces, hurting the nominee. They can tell her that she is ruining her (and Bill's) legacy.

It is so frustrating. And none of them will do it.

Bill Clinton is like all of those awful hair metal bands that used to pack arena shows, but now end up playing county fairs and casinos. All the old folks show up out of nostalgia, and because they still think Winger rocked out with their cocks out back in the day.

@Rob_Peter_to_Pay_Paultard: I want to read Barry/Anderson Cooper slash. Cooper needs to arrange a nice, long dimly lit vis-a-vis interview with Barry.

@Magister: Nope, she's claiming that Hillary stopped bringing up the health care issue after she got her ass handed to her by the Senate. Which is true, actually. Hillary didn't have any political capital after that fight, so she had to give it a rest. Which shows why being a fighter doesn't always translate into being a winner.

I thought that after his operation, Bill wasn't supposed to get worked up. That face - so red! Stroke's a bad way to go, Big Daddy.

@chiefpayne: hey great to have you back, chief. we sure did miss you.

@FloraWay: Nobody has the spine to stop it, so the Democratic Party, once again, will shoot itself in the foot happily. If nothing else, at least they're consistent.

@Cicada: Wow. Perfect.

@Cicada: Definitely. This is an unwanted and ridiculous reunion tour.

Bill Clinton's 2008 campaign performance shits on his legacy the same way The Phantom Menace shit on Star Wars, and our nostalgic glow is now replaced with similar contempt.

@Wendy_Kroy: Beautiful.

Though the third movie KILLED THE LEGACY FOR ME.

People, we need to stop telling Hillary to drop out. This is only making things worse. Remember that Simpsons Halloween Special where the giant advertising eyesores came to life and ravaged Springfield? That's what's going on here. Bill and Hillary are like Bob's Big Boy and Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man running amok and threatening to destroy us all. But all we have to do is follow Paul Anka's advice, and they'll eventually wither and die from the lack of attention:

"Just don't look! Just don't look!"

Mr. Speaker, I paid for this microphone!

@Wendy_Kroy: 'The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side. A Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware of the Dark Side. Anger, Fear, Aggression; the Dark Side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will.'