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Somebody tell Paul Krugman that Hillary just threw him under the bus.

I thought the Clintons used metal frogs for that sort of thing. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic creature such as Spanky the Money Octopus.

Also, sorry for spamming this, but Carville just said that Hillary has three testicles. I SWEAR TO GOD!!!

Irony abounds. A common complaint by the left wing of the Left Wing Party while Bill was president was that he listened to economists too much, e.g., NAFTA.

I guess there should be a Gold-ilocks standard -- just the right amount of economics wisdom.

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Barack on Meet The Press: The Clinton/McCain gas plan

Obama says phoney plans and arguments to score political points is what passes for leadership in Washington today.

I bet those elite latte-drinking economists can't even bowl a 300.

@Laura Ingalls Wildest: Not all economists support NAFTA. They all understand NAFTA though.

@Laura Ingalls Wildest: Also, economists don't always agree, but none of them agree with Hillary.

I can't wait for her response when asked to name one national security expert who thinks its a good idea to threaten to "obliterate" Iran...
Actually, she'll probably be able to come up with a few of those.

And the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...

@El Bombastico: The latest propaganda is that the Pentagon is planning for "surgical strikes" on "training camps" in Iran. The Iraq government says Iran is helping them. Bad cop, good cop. Or maybe I've seen too many movies. Like Iron Man -- that movie was cool.

I just read some quotes. She actually used the term "elite" to describe economists' opinions! What planet am I on?? In a week she'll be decrying the "out-of-touch" theory of evolution and the "pointy-headed intellectual" concept of gravity.

She's right--those damn elitist economists & college professors & bar passing lawyers--what the hell do they know?!?

I'm gonna listen the the Ameican people, who want to save eighteen cents a gallon, and know, with their infallable folk wisdom that gas prices will never go up again & all this peak oil nonsense will soon blow over.

All hail the common man.

God how I wish someone would invent a plague that just killed stupid rednecks (of any color) and reduced their bodies to piles of white minerals we could use to fertilize crops for the survivors.

Hey, as an added bonus, the rest of us could still drive gas guzzlers the rest of our lives, as a civilization we'd have a much smaller carbon footprint, and there'd even be gas let over when we died.

That's the ticket!

"I'm not going to put my lot in with economists."
This destroys any and all wonk-cred she had in my book. What is she thinking??

Those economists, with their education.

By the time the primaries are over, Hillary will be appearing in overalls and spitting her chaw juice in a cup. Yee-haw!
Goddamn elitists with all their fancy book-learnin' and "expertise". Hilz knows that the best policy idears come from Jeb over at the Texaco station.

@IrasGlasses: I only have two, but James Carville can suck them both.

She'll produce enough gas in the electorate that we'll all be able to drive our vehicles on our own flatulence.

@Cicada: I knew it! Educated affluent (sub)urbanites have contempt for the working class.

Ask not for whom the Eight Belles toll...

@IrasGlasses: What is wrong with the name "Jeb"? Or working at a gas station?

Hillary has just thrown her lot in with the 20% of all americans that believe that the sun orbits the earth.
Look upon this move as her reaching out for bi-partisan support: they make up two thirds of the Bush approval rating.
This all important voting bloc has been heretofore ignored by the MSM, Obama and McCain.
As the guys say in the Guiness TV ad, "Brilliant!".

@IrasGlasses: Of course I have contempt for the working class, it's where I came from! The graffiti at my high school was made up of swastikas and "Wite Power" slogans. Folks in my hometown hate the darkies, beaners, queers, sheenies, rag heads, and libruls because they aren't "real 'mericans". Oh, I have seen the dark underbelly of 'merica, and it ain't purty.

@Cicada: Isn't it funny that "working class" has become a synonym for "white, rural voters"? There are plenty of working class people in the big cities, but I guess they don't count. Too "ethnic", as Chris Matthews would say.

@Cicada: No redneck left behind. Where's the hope?

@Cicada: I was being facetious anyway. Sort of.

Yeah, back when she & her husband (and Al Gore) were pushing NAFTA through, they reported about 8 billion times that 90% of Economists backed the agreement, and never reported the follow up question that only like a millionth of one percent of them had actually even looked at it -- somebody just said "FREE TRADE" and the Economists just got all jiggly inside and had to smoke a cigarette.

Maybe she can invent computers and the Internet again, so we can have another '90s economy she had nothing to do with.

@EnBuenOra: Yet Hillary couldn't get even one economist (other than an ExxonMobil representative) to agree with her phoney gas tax holiday plan.

Georgie grew some balls! Although, really, that question was just an opening for Hillary to invent an economist, and she is therefore an idiot. "Sammy Finkelburger thinks the gas tax holiday will revitalize our economy, while Morty Silverstein called it 'totes awes.'"

Can't fault any opportunity to play on anti-intellectualism, though. Did ANYONE in the 90s think Hillary would ever try to portray herself, with a straight face, as the non-elitist?

@IrasGlasses: So was I, sort of.

@IrasGlasses: No hope in my dark cinder of a heart, but I still loves me some Hopey!

Proposed TV spot for the O-man:

Some patriotic muzak, images of US military struggles throughout history, while he does the voice over:

"Many have sacrificed so that we might all have the right to vote. John McCain and Hillary Clinton have both asked for your vote, and offered you a tax break they cannot deliver, one that might reach as high as $30.

"It is not the first time that both of these candidates have shared the same bad idea. It is not the first time that both of these candidates have offered you the same hollow promise they cannot keep, in exchange for your vote.

"Before you cast your vote for anyone, ask yourself this:

"Is your vote for sale for thirty dollars? Can your vote be bought for thirty pieces of silver?"

[Cut to the cargo hold of a large USAF plane, stuffed with flag-draped coffins.]

"My name is Barack Obama and I approved this message."

Anyone want to comment on the larger media problem of having li'l Georgie host some bullshit town hall think in Sunday morning prime time?

@Canuckledragger:

Barack: "Is your vote for sale for thirty dollars? Can your vote be bought for thirty pieces of silver?"

America: "Hell yeah! Shit, we'd vote for Ralph Nader for $20 and a bag of Doritos."

@norbizness: Nobody cares about your wacko conspiracy theories out there in the heartland, dontcha know? Now sit down and shut up while James Carville explains why Barry is a ball-less, latte-sipping empty suit.

STEPHANOPOULOS: "But can you name an economist who thinks this makes sense?"
CLINTON: "Silly George. Economists are for kids!"

elitist economists don't pump gas, hillary does; she knows what she's talking about, she can tell you that shit is expensive. she feels the economic pain of the average american; like most americans today, her campaign is also in debt. she gets it.

@Cicada: ...which is, of course, slander. Barry has balls. They are immaculately groomed and smell like a mocha latte. And I want to see his empty suit on my bedroom floor.

(Sometimes I'm not totally sure I'm voting for the right reasons.)

Who needs elitist economists? We can have our economics policy written by the winners of Rock of Love and Shot at Love. But be wary of those elitist winners of Flavor of Love.

@ronaldpagan: Sex and latte smell? Really? Not something I generally want to mix.

@Lymed: You must be one of those heartland bitters who wants your erotic encounters to smell like Skoal and take place in a toolshed. Don't lie to me now...

Make Flava drug czar! Does that position still exist? No? Secrety of State, then.

Isn't Spanky the Money Octopus an alias of Mark Penn? This has his octopus prints all over it.

@ronaldpagan: nothin' like the smell of skoal and ol' spice in the outhouse

Flava's way too elitist with those big clocks and fancy names like New York and Red Oyster.

I think Hillary may be proving that it is actually possible to OVERESTIMATE the stupidity and emptyness of the American people. That would be quite an achievement, at least for her.

@sarcasticusername: Yeah, she pumps gas alright. Like when she pumped gas into some bitter Indianan man's gas guzzling 4x4. She only filled up half the tank for $63. That's what I want from my president. Someone who looks at the gas tank half-full.

Hillary shares a birthday with a Constantinople earthquake, the passage of the Patriot Act in 2002, the Moscow Theater Seige in 2002, Pat Sajak, and Keith Urban. Barack shares a birthday with P. B. Shelley, Louis Armstrong and Iceberg Slim. The choice is obvious, America!

(In the interest of being totally fair and balanced, I should point out that Barack's birthday was also the day the Nazis found Anne Frank and Lee Hazlewood died.)

Judging people by their birthdays is fun. Everyone play!

@FightingBill: I doubt this. Wait until Tuesday; people are pretty fucking stupid.

@ronaldpagan:

"Is your vote for sale for $30.?"

American people "No, but for a tax rebate check I will definitely vote Republican again. I did last time"!

It is funny when a campaign boils down to crossing your fingers and wishing "please have the undecideds be stupid please have the undecideds be stupid"

@ronaldpagan: Sadly, Hillz has the same birthday as my grandmother on my mother's side. I don't know anyone w/ Barack's birthday, though. I have Tom Cruise's birthday, YIPPEE!! (jumps on couch)

@ronaldpagan: So Hillary in the White House would be like the Wheel of Fortune? Each year, all the earmarks will be put in one room with a price next to them. Congress will watch the camera pass over the items and pick which ones they want until they hit their spending limit. I'll have a bridge in Tulsa, a new airport to be built by my cousin Bob, 20 Ronald Reagan statues...

John McCain shares a birthday with the abolition of slavery in the UK. And also with John Locke, Ingrid Bergman, Charlie Parker, Michael Jackson, G. G. Allin, Canadian adult actress Lanny Barbie, and my little sister. I hate to say it, but does he win?

Oh wait...he also shares a birthday with Hurricane Katrina. Dick.

@NinedyGiulieleven: Sadly, that is always a safe bet, as we'll see in Indiana. I'm getting more and more of an impression that the cunt is actually going to win this thing.

It's also a given that, at the last minute, she is going to put out some blatantly fear-mongering ad that people will be stupid enough to buy. So let's think what the ace up Obama's sleeve could be? Preferably one that would not destroy his credibility.

-Finding Osama Bin Laden and coming back waving his severed head aloft?
-Endorsement by Paris Hilton or Britney Spears?
-Shooting range photo op?

Weigh in.

@NinedyGiulieleven: Undecideds are by definition stupid. Any carbon-based life form who could live through the past six soul-sucking months and STILL not have an opinion as to who should be president is, de facto, retarded. So a pretty safe bet by Hillary.

@ronaldpagan: He wins, but only because of G.G. Allin. And only if he urinates all over the dais during the inauguration.
Maybe this should be cross-posted to the Gawker R. Kelly thread.

@El Bombastico: Well if we're talking about winning over the retards, Hillary will have a hard time defeating Ron Paul. Especially since it's an open primary. Make it happen, Ronnie!

@audicityofhope: I'll see your Tom Cruise and raise you a Penelope Cruz.

As I recall from History 12, Adolf Hitler in the early 30s's first perfected the strategy of appealing to the "low information" working classes to get support (probably cheaper beer and sausage in those days) and since then it's been used quite successfully by Rove in the States and John Howard in Australia, and somewhat successfully by Stephen Harper in Canada... Clinton is learning from them how to hijack an an election.. I just read on another site that her people are planning how to actually carry out a coup within the Democratic Party... force the Michigan and Florida delegates to be seated on her terms and strongarm super delegates and pledged Obama delegates to switch to her... I wonder if this will be one of those turning points in history when people look back and say, if only good people had stood up for what was right.

@ronaldpagan: Crazy enough, I find voting for Hillz more retarded than voting for Paul at this point. It breaks my heart.

And if anyone starts arguing that this is HELPING the party, I believe that they should promptly shipped to Gitmo. Painting the eventual nominee as an elitist, by the other democrat? Great.

[www.cbsnews.com]

CBS poll: rebound for Barack

Musical interlude:

Take take that take that!
Uh!

Hilly Hilly Hilly, can't you see?
Sometimes your ads just hypnotize me
And I just love your down-home ways
So why am I broke while you're so paid?

@ronaldpagan: I'll see your relatively harmless celebrities and raise you Saddam Hussein. Also Kim Gordon and Harper Lee, in my defense, but they will probably be considered "elitist" by most of America and I will lose this hypothetical birthday-driven election.

@icedog:
Comparing Hillary to Hitler? That may be a little much. Unless you're referring to the mustache and the one testicle. You are right about her people dropping hints that pledged delegates don't HAVE to vote for the person their constituents voted for. WTF? Does she think a delegate pledge is like an abstinence pledge?

@jon_arbuckle: I used to think all this "Hillary is tearing the Democratic party apart" stuff was overblown hysteria, but it's getting more and more true. I'm worried she will cut into Obama's lead over the next month, and everything will come down to Florida, Michigan, and a bunch of powerful white people. Deja vu much?

@Nathalie08: That's good news! Hopefully the 23% who disapprove of how Obama handled Rev. Wright last week are mostly people like me who think he was too dismissive and too much of a pussy, but love him anyway.

Discussion topic: The Republicans are completely attacking Obama and staying away from Hillary. Do you think this is because they're convinced he is going to be the nominee, or because they want Hillary to win because beating her is like shooting a fish in a barrel?

@eatsshootsleaves: How about ME???? We totally have the same birthday!!! One we share with Jessica Alba and Jay Leno. But I prefer to concentrate on Kim, Harper, and Saddam as well.

Hope you had a good time last Monday.

@ronaldpagan: Man, if you thought the Wright stuff was bad, imagine what they'd do with quotes from Chuck D. I can just picture the confirmation hearing now:

Arlen Specter: "Mr. Flav, did you ever associate with one Mr. D, the same Mr. D that once said -- and I quote -- 'Farrakhan's a prophet that I think you all should listen to?'"

Flava Flav: "Yeaaahhh boyeeeeee."

The Sound of Mucus

The Hillz is a liar
With the sound of mucus

With fibs she has flung in a thousand tears
When Hillz clears her throat with the sound of mucus

Her lungs want to heave a whole six-pack of beers



Her throat wants to gag like the whores of Bill's that spit from Harlem to DC
Her throat wants to heave like the fleas that fly from bulls' asses in the breeze

To quack like a duck when it trips and falls over elite economists
To sing through the night like a frog that is under the bus

I go to the Hillz 'bout her acid reflux
I know I will hear what I've heard before

Her chest will compress with the sound of mucus

When she lies once more

@ronaldpagan: I think right now attacks on Obama are supposed to do Republicans a double service: prolong the primaries and also help against Obama himself in the end. If Hillary ends up chosen, even better.

Except a) she won't be chosen, and b) I'm not sure to what extent Obama smears are actually effective. He's like rubber coated with Teflon.

The simple fact is Republicans 'base' are white, married and Xtian. Like the fundies, they are not appealing to the next generation in this country.

A base with declining demographics.

The only way they can win is to stop the youth vote and the minority vote in the USA. Thats why Richardson is a Judas.

It comes down to a numbers game in both the primary and the national elections. The racist vote is only 12% at most.

@keram2: Hahaha! Didn't Chuck D literally have to reject and denounce Professor Griff?

@Darehead: Oh my God! This is why I love you more than I have any right to love an anonymous internet entity.

@Darehead:

I want to participate in this musical contest, but for some reason I keep associating Hillary with Biggie today.

You see, there are two kind of people in the world today
We have, the playas, and we have, the playa haters
Please don't hate me because I'm beautiful baby

Playaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh
Hateeeeeeerrrrrrr

Tell me somebody else is still here, because I made a love song for Hillary! Imagine me singing this to her at a campfire, while strumming my acoustic guitar, during the annual Wellesley lesbian jamboree.

Living with cheaters is easy to do,
The things that you wanted, Bill bought them for you.
Graceless lady, you know who I am,
You know I can't put you in charge of my land

Dead racehorses, couldn't drag you away
Dead racehorses, you'll be one someday

I watched you suffer and hurt your campaign,
Now you decided to show me the same
No smug dissection of Rev Wright's lines
Can make me feel bitter. Bitch, you're still behind.

Dead racehorses, couldn't drag you away
Dead racehorses, you'll be one someday

I know you pander, I know you lie