You may recall that Hillary's husband Bill was president for a while in the 1990s, and that is why Hillary gets to run for president but never actually win. This clip highlights a moment on the trail during the 1992 election, where a hilariously '90s-outfitted James Carville and George Stephanopoulos are checking out the latest polling figures. In steps Mickey Kantor, the chairman of Bill's campaign, to express his views on the good blue-collars of Indiana. They are not only the pride and soul of America, according to the subtitles, but they are also "shit" and "white niggers." The most offensive part is pretty sketchy, considering you can't see anybody actually saying this. UPDATE: Kantor denies, Conspiracy!
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I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the license plate said "Cajun", and it had dice in the mirror...
Georgie is heading to a Bruce Springsteen concert later, and Carville left his rollerblades by the front door.
I had no idea James Carville was in Color Me Badd.
As for Mickey Blue Eyes, he'll never replace Sam Waterston in those Old Glory Robot Insurance commercials.
Did Carville mug Blossom for that hat?
...kinda odd that Stephanopoulos still HASN'T experienced puberty!
God, we need these people in the White House again.
Thank you, lord, for delivering us Rev. Wright.
@elijah_dukes_mayonnaise: ...nah, he bought off of Punky Brewster!
To be fair, nobody really knows what Hoosier means. Some people think it was a reference to canal workers who guided the donkeys that pulled the canal boats. The Clintons think it means "shit people."
These old Doogie Howser clips always crack me up.
P.S. Hadn't they invented the term "wiggers" in 1992? And remember: to make it extra-non-offensive, eschew the hard "er" for the softer "ah."
In fairness to George "the Elf" and "Baseball Cap...TO THE EXTREME!!" Carville, neither of them seems particularly amused by the comment, adopting the silent "I cant believe you're saying that but I'm afraid to call you on it so I'll pretend to be focusing really intently on something else" posture familiar to anyone who's ever dealt with a racist uncle at a family reunion.
Oh Mickey, you're so fine. You're so fine you blow my mind, hey Mickey!
I've been very confused over the past two weeks as to what "elitist" actually meant. Thanks for the video definition.
I'm not someone who is a big fan of hit job politics. But the guy knew the camera was running. I was a young adult in '92. They weren't that new an invention he knew what they did.
This thing has to be run over and over everywhere.
That photo of Snakehead and Boy George makes it look like a PSA on molestation.
"Hey little boy, do you like candy? I have a bunch down in my basement if you want it..."
And, that's what they say about white people, can you imagine what they say now in private about the black voters that have happily abandoned the Clinton royal family?
"...a worthless white n%gger" as opposed to "...expensive black n%gger"? That sound that you hear is Bill "Judas" Richardson pulling out his wallet to start a 527.
That shot of Carville and Stephapotomus is from the opening titles of that TGIF sitcom they starred in from 1993-94. They're both looking lovely at this memo, then look up at the camera and start laughing their heads off.
Speaking about Wiggers: Carville looks like he's about to whip out some linoleum and start breakdancing the headspin -- he has a lot of maneuvering room with that cranium -- to the boyish Stephanopoulos' human beat box.
As we pontificate this, the Clinton Campaign is coming up with an 'splanation: "He didn't say white niggers. He said 'I bite my fingers.' B-I-T-E M-Y F-I-um, N-I-G-G-E-R-S."
Now can we go back to how much Re. Wright hates America because he likes gas taxes, please?
Farggin' do-anything-to-win, hate-the-people-they-need-votes-from, stupid-hat-wearing, Golem-looking, ugly, short elitists. Yeah, let's elect a Clinton again.
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Why isn't this all over the news?
And you can totally used the Clinton/Wright attack logic on them: Granted you can't control what people say, but why have you continued to associate and employ someone with these views for many, many years?
Why aren't people hitting them with this tape?
This is boring, but it's totally worth it for George Snuffleupagus' burning embarassment when Kantor says that on camera.
@choinski: we should start a drive to buy and mail Clinton those posters.
"Worthless White Niggers" was actually one of their crosstabs.
@The Real JR: not only "associate with", but she is using Kantor as a campaign advisor!
I thought they were supposed to start saying this AFTER they lose Indiana's primary!
...Only takes one itchy trigger
One more widow,
one less white n*gger...
Clinton's supporters may be worthless white trash, but at least they'll be the worthless white trash with full gas tanks this summer!
@Doglessliberal: Exactly!
Worthlesswhiteniggergate
Seriously, unlike Hopey, Hillary will waste no time at all throwing Kantor off the bus, drive over him, go into reverse and run over him again, step out of the bus, shoot two or three hundred rounds through his body with her assault rifle and then stuff him into a wood chipper.
@StoneSoup: "...happily abandoned the Clinton Crown Royal family."
Okay, i've checked.
Kos and ABC has now posted on this. (interestingly ABC omitted writing about the white n^&&#r comment.) I believe Drudge has this now. This will all blow up by the evening news.
And just in time for the weekend cycle. Good times.
This is a Kinsley-style gaffe, that is to say, speaking the truth, as anyone who's ever lived there will tell you. Indiana elected a KKK-party governor in 1920. Until recently, part of your drivers' license renewal went directly to whatever party was in power in Indian-no-place.
Go Colts!
@Doombilly: Are you saying we should send Kantor to Johannesburg?
lol my best friend just IM'ed me:
Her: Was the camera invisible?!?
lol wurd gurl.
Quit picking on Carville. He was dressed for a New Kids on the Block audition.
@OhTheHugeManatee: Nice. I like Shitwiggergate - but the possibilities are endless.
@norbizness: No, send him to Gary, IN. Gary Indiana, Gary Indiana, Gary Indiana, Gary... Ack, using show tunes; am I still punk rock? But I am cetain Kantor would've played Sun City.
Life Goes On...
ZOMG, how bad is it when the first thing footnoted in your wiki is like the worst thing you've ever said on video?
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If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination, and eventually the Presidency, the population of America will be reduced by half - exactly the number of enemies the Clintons have - in eerily similar circumstances as DC Madame Palfrey.
hoosier daddy?
@capitol-hillbilly:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing.
This man would later have the power to make us all worthless white n***ers (well, all us white folks). He was only appointed Secretary of fucking Commerce.
Worthless white n***gers = a microtrend.
@The Real JR: yah, I had the same reaction. Not only is this worthless sack of dog poop believing and saying this, he is DOING IT ON CAMERA. He really does not get what a pig he is.
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Obama will lose Indiana because he drives a pink car.
(from ABC news)
Too bad the news just took Hillary's bait. Especially if the Obama people comment on it. Hillary will be like "Oooh, I thought you were so above 'petty distractions.' [She will make hand quotes here.] Guess you hypocrites just showed your true colors. Plus, what's a little n-bomb between friends? Nawmsayin Indiana?"
Kantor was actually the U.S. Trade Representative who negotiated NAFTA.
Which, as we learened from Ohio, Hillary was TOTALLY opposed to, and Obama went to Canada to laugh at the bitter Americans, but then it turned out it was Hillary, but by the time the news came out the people of Ohio had already voted to proclaim Obama designated elitist.
@V572625694: Okay. This is very tricky. Please read carefully. I am in no way supporting the KKK.
"Birth of a Nation" arguably the first blockbuster movie was released in 1915. Until that point the organization was anachronistic. This movie actually portrayed it as heroic and for a time, if there would have been polling back then, I'm pretty sure the majority of Americans would have had a very different opinion on the organization then all intelligent people do (at the point of this clip) 72 years later.
My point is to make the blanket statement this guy made--Indianans are "shit" and "white ni@@$rs", which is way different than saying Western Pennsylvanians are "bitter" and "clingy", cannot really be excused as Kinsley-style. Can it?
Yes, Indiana has its share of rednecks. What state doesn't? But I've lived in states that border it on two sides and I know that there are quite a number of very smart thoughtful people there.
I'm not picking a fight with you, V5... I got your point. I just don't want to excuse or rationalize this particular statement in any way.
I was born and spent the first twenty-two years of my life in dark red West Texas. I'd hate to think what this guy's opinion is of me.
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okay, lololol
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Indeed, a review of the original copy of the 1993 film The War Room, from which the excerpt was taken (around the 4:40 mark) is virtually inaudible. The sound suggests, if anything, that instead of saying "How would you like to be a worthless white n****r?" Kantor says, "How would you like to be in the White House right now?"
lolol are you kidding me?
[Insert Hoosier Outrage Here]
Now HuffPo is headlining that it's doctored.
I totally don't believe them and I'm now trying to listen to the original.
Actually, I think what he says is "those people are shitting" referring to the Bush campaign. I'm not sure what he says in the rest of the clip, though. I'd be very surprised if he said what he's alleged to say with the cameras filming him.
@Doombilly: Thank you. I had Elvis Costello playing in my head the moment I opened this story.
@The Real JR: And Rev. Wright was really saying, "Good ham, America!" And Barry called rural Pennsylvanians "better."
But Hillary will play this off like that, forever. Because she is the most shameless and baldfaced of all the liars. And that is why she should be president.
@Serolf Divad: Wow. You know what? You might be right...Never mind.
ABC has taken down the story.
I want to at least pretend to be offended, but I can't get over Carvy and Stephy's get ups.
Though at least unlike Hillz herself, they've updated their style somewhat since the nineties. Her tapered pantsuits would fit right into that clip.
Totally cringing now. If anybody is looking for me, I'll be silently weeping in the fetal position in the shower. But not "shitting".
@Serolf Divad: But is he denying that part of it?
@Gunner: Yeah, they did. That's actually an outrage. Cause even if the white ni&&er comment was doctored, he did say the hoosiers were shit.
I can't believe they caved to threats of a libel lawyer or something. That's terrible.
@nyhfrog: As a graduate of the Agricultural Training Institute in West Lafayette, I totally agree with you. Every place is shit if you look at the worst parts. I'm not "excusing" the statement; I'm agreeing with it, but only for the sake of snark. Sure are a lot of cornfields there, though.
Okay, okay, okay, so he probably didn't call anyone a "nigger," but this clip proves conclusively that he is a total fuckface.
@V572625694: No worries,V5... I strongly reject and denounce almost everything I've written in Wonkette today as snarklessly divisive. I will now suffer a self-imposed, one day suspension.
I should have trusted in snark. Snark will save us all.
...back to the shower.
The pressing story behind this is:
Carville: More of a douche then, or now?
We need to get to the substantive dammit!
@norbizness: Between the Blossom and Color Me Badd comments, I'm taking the day off, too. I can't do better.
@V572625694: Until recently, part of your drivers' license renewal went directly to whatever party was in power in Indian-no-place.
A portion of the fee for people who requested "D" or "R" plates went to the parties; at now point was license renewal for general issue plates used.
@nyhfrog: Fecal position?
That picture is disturbing. George looks like a 5 year old, and James looks like one of those speakers that comes to middle school who dressed funny so he thinks he's "down" with the kids.
@sporty_dan: I was just about to say it looks like they're about to do a guest spot on the fresh prince of bel air.
@WarGames: I thought they were extras on "21 Jump Street".
@V572625694:
It is interesting that no one is challanging the truth of what Kantor supposedly said.