Do you like the “who repeated a two-sentence thing from some other liberal speech” scandal? Then you will love this latest Solid Proof that sometimes Hillary Clinton also cheats by using words spoken in the past by others. Look how she did it twice tonight.
Talk about your Two Americas! Listen how John Edwards said one thing, and Hillary said a variation of that tonight, at the debate, and John Edwards is no longer a candidate. Xerox, anyone?








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But she's different. She's running on all that experience in the 90's governing stuf----
But she's different. She's not running on words, she's running on the fact that someone else is running on----
But she's different. Awwww, fuck it.
Vote Quimby.
Don't you know anything, Ken? Hypocrisy is irrelevant with regard to Clinton, because she has lots of experience.
So, the infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters who have been writing the story of this election are already starting to repeat themselves. This is depressing on a whole 'nother metaphysical level.
Q-imby ALSO xeroxed JFK! But Obama is JFK! AHHH. How about plagiarism actualy means something and Obama didnt do it! (Also, hilz definitely did, but she also rolled over and gave up [queue the 527s])
She who smelt it dealt it.
Well, I think that what Bill and Hillary said in the first example were just such general statements and common rhetoric that it's not plagiarism. It's good speechwriting, which means that sometimes you use phrases "taking hits."
The second example, with John Edwards, however, I agree that that is a plagiarized statement.
Emotion you can xerox!
Hillary's Brain.
@kierabs: Everything Hillary said was pretty vague and general. Same goes for Obama and the quote he's chastised for. This is a manufactured controversy by both the Clinton campaign and wonkette.
I just want us to know that there is nothing that is wrong with America that can't be solved by what is right with America. And that the things that bring us together are greater than the things that pull us apart. That the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. And that the dream I have of government for the people, of the people and by the people shall not perish from the earth, but make the world safe for democracy, and though I shall walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will sell no wine before its time. Uh...could you repeat the question?
@Machiavelli: uh, that's kind of blunt and pointless and not worthy of your nom de guerre. Are you getting a penny a word?
@Machiavelli: "manufactured"
But of course this plagiarism controversy is about IPRs, so the correct word is "invented".
@SayItWithWookies: you forgot about the part about fighting them on the beaches and on the streets.
Looking back now my post is so embarrassing. Plz forgive me guys.
@Machiavelli: Your false humility is a sign of weakness. The pack will now devour you. Make peace with your God.
I H8 you.
@TurtleWarningCry: And fourscore and seven years ago, Ich bin ein Berliner said Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall and bring us peace with honor and your brain on drugs with a side of bacon. And in the hall the women come and go, talking of Michelangelo.
@Machiavelli: post would have been better had you referred to Wonkette as "the Wonkette" when establishing responsibility for this plagiarism charge.
sounds a little funnier.
Isn't it really Obama's speech writer plagiarizing someone else's speech writer?
And Hillary's writer xeroxing Bill's writer?
All the candidates in this election are faker than a hollywood marriage. This plagarism crap is Hillary grasping at straws, seeing as tho the guy who said the words told him he should use those lines or whatever, and Hillary took the words from her husband, I mean when is it gunna end???? As soon as i heard about an Obama gay sex scandal, I came to the conclusion that it never will end......
Bad artists copy. Great artists steal.
So, if Hills did it, and it=bad ... then if Bammy did it, it=?
Anyway, tempest, meet teapot. Teapot, may I introduce tempest. I'm sure you'll get along just fine. For, like, three whole seconds.
I think you all are missing the point. Point being that Bambi is just an empty vessel reading words written fo4 him a la Robert Redford in the Candidate.
For Bill & Hillz words do not have meaning until they give them meaning. Others may have said those syllables but they got life through the dynamic duo. Hence the politics of meaning. Bill & Hillz believe what they say, when they say it, right up to the moment they deny ever having said it. You listeners need to smarten up and realize how fortunate they give life to words. Consider their words more powerful than any sensory perception you may have. As Bill is fond of saying to us.... "I did not have .... no wait try this.... Who are you going to believe? Me? or your lying eyes?"
Wake up people.
At this point, I think we're all just waiting for the inevitable.
And by "inevitable" I mean the moment she finally takes her top off.
But doesn't Hillz deserve points for not going with a. Where's the beef? and b. I knew Jack Kennedy, and you're no Jack Kennedy?
Breaking: conclusive medical evidence indicates Hill's blood type is a rare form of copy toner. And the little light is on. Could someone call the guy?
Thilly theason seems like it comes earlier every year.
Well, Obama's bit about people working harder for less was also one of the big talking points of Clinton/Gore, so I guess those typewriting monkeys know no limit to the random sets of letters that they can regurgitate.
the whole plagiarism thing is just a stupid low blow diversion because clinton is losing. they scream about obama and lack of substance, and that is what they are pushing out to the world? it just seems petty and really a bad move, pushing the negativity that just pisses people off at her...
now... it's just insanely stupid that she would say this crap after all her raging about his plagiarism, ESPECIALLY in a debate where she wants to change the campaign momentum!
yeah, her speechwriter is going to HANG for this one.
i don't feel bad for her... i think it's just another tick on the list of reasons why i don't think she is trustworthy. she and her hubby are shameless and will do anything to secure their positions...
Whatever, her entire campaign is copied from her husband's.
Wasn't Quimby "pole-ing" the electorate?
I'm tired of words. At the next debate I'd like Mrs. Clinton to tell me all about solutions, either in sign language or with mute hand puppets. I'd like for Mr. Obama to tell me all about hope, sweet hope, in an audaciously interpretive Luo/South Side pantomime dance routine.
Godless: With the possible exception of being successful or inspiring or pantsuitless.
@Godless Liberal: can't argue there... i mean, she and her hubby were co-president's right? that's what it sounds like, with all her experience that she is spouting off about.
Funny seeing Bill talking about taking hits. I thought he didn't inhale.
Plagiarism? We're talkin' about plagiarism, man. Not sex-with-lobbyist scandals, not airport bathroom sex. We're talkin' about plagiarism.
/Allen Iverson, political pundit
@Motortruck: Great. Now I have an image of a debate featuring Barack as Marcel Marceau and Hillary wielding Mr. Sock. And Tickle-Me-Elmo moderating. Sheesh.
BMCFC: Don't forget "Not the health insurance mandates that I go out there and die for and enter every primary like it's my last."
@TurtleWarningCry: You see what all of this baseless persecution did to the soul of former starving artiste Joe Biden, as he was forced to abandon his paints and brushes and ramshackle studio apartment in Gay Paree to carry water for the credit card companies just to make ends meet. :(
Academia has 'plagiarism'. Politics has 'borrowing' or 'paying tribute to'. They're not really in the same ballpark, much less in the same neighborhood.
Hillary is ready to Xerox from Day One.
But Hillary has more experience than Barack, which means she plagiarizes more and better.
Even the use of the term of "Xerox" is such an anachronism and out of touch with today's generation. The kids today are saying "mimeograph".
I almost expected Hillary to start smelling her ditto sheet notes.
As Barrack explained, he's "married" to Deval Patrick in the same way that Hillary is "married" to Bill Clinton.
But only in Massachusetts, so it's okay.
@StoneSoup: Change you can Crackberry! Boieeee!
@StoneSoup: Don't copy that floppy!
@SayItWithWookies: Nice. You should've been a pair of rugged claws.
Lessse, there are 26 letters, which is finite, so that means the arrangement of them is also, right? So, like Lenny Bruce used to say (stealing from Mort Sahl), everything I've ever said has been said before. I speak English, man! I steal in order to be understood.
How come nobody mentions Paul anymore? He's trouncing Romney every primary now. Scored twice that heathen's vote in Wisconsin. Why don't you give the guy credit when it's going well, huh?
@Loosey_Goosey: except that Obama writes most of his own speeches, so really Hillary's just plagiarizing her own speech writers every time
How sad that her most "authentic" moment was John Edwards' material?
John Edwards lifted that line from Bill Clinton.
Hey,
I just posted a new video on YouTube with a side-by-side comparison between Edwards' and Hillary's closing lines. Here's the link:
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Please check it out and spread the word!
Btw, I don't really care that she used Edwards' lines, but it's certainly pretty ironic that she fell in her own trap...
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