Your Boyfriend Adam Schiff.

Holy News Dump, Batman! Is The Most “Successful” Administration Ever(™) hoping that the wife-beating scandals drown out their refusal to release the Democratic rebuttal memo? Or vice versa?

Yes, yes it is! Okay, let’s deal with the latest chapter in #MEMOGATE. Because this shit is never ending.

Devin Nunes is the Real Russia!

Last week, Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee “proved” that THERE IS NO RUSSIA, HILLARY IS THE REAL RUSSIA with a memo that alleges The Dodgy Dossier was used as a basis to get a warrant on Carter Page. As we have mentioned, this is utter bullshit — the warrant was issued after Page had been You’re Fired from the campaign. It is perfectly legitimate to use a biased witness with prior indicia of credibility to establish probable cause — and Carter Page, a self-described “informal Kremlin advisor” was meeting with all kinds of shady Russian characters.

Also, too, the application for a FISA warrant clearly stated that the evidence was being provided by Trump’s political opponents! Republicans have been jumping up and down yelling, “How could those FISA judges know in October of 2016 that Trump’s opponent was Hillary? UNPOSSIBLE!” Because they are lying assholes. Anyway, they loaded up their memo with half-truths about the FISA warrant on Carter Page, the very existence of which is supposed to be classified. Then, despite the FBI and DOJ saying, “Holy Shit! DO NOT jeopardize national security by releasing this memo,” Donald Trump immediately overruled them and released it unredacted.

Donald and the Documents

When it came to the Democratic rebuttal memo that would prove House Republicans are full of crap, however, Donald Trump magically rediscovered his deep, abiding concern for national security. The House Intelligence Committee voted unanimously to release the rebuttal memo, but yesterday Don McGahn told Devin Nunes, Oh, frowny face! The Democrats’ memo is just too sensitive to be released!

Although the President is inclined to declassify the February 5th Memorandum, the President asked the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice to assess the declassification request and provide him recommendations. The Department has identified portions of the February 5th Memorandum the disclosure of which it believes would create especially significant concerns for the national security and law enforcement interests.

Oh, NOW he cares about DNI and DOJ? Now that there’s a memo laying out exactly why the FISA court thought it was appropriate to issue a warrant on the Russia-loving chucklehead touted by Trump as a distinguished foreign policy adviser?

So, what happens now? Well … Let’s just copy Law Professor Steve Vladeck’s homework, since he was kind enough to post it on Twitter.

Thanks, Law Man!

Option 1: They Release a Redacted Version

Unlike Republicans, HPSCI Democrats have always insisted they would redact anything that the DOJ believes will threaten national security. The issue is, who decides what gets redacted? Will it be the White House taking a magic marker to black out all the reasons Carter Page was worth surveilling? Or will it be the FBI protecting its sources? Here’s Your Boyfriend Adam Schiff asking HPSCI chair Devin Nunes to make DOJ and the White House use different highlighters.
It took several minutes for Boy Wonder Devin Nunes to figure out what Schiff was asking for, and several more minutes for him to mumble some non-committal bullshit about procedural requests. Have we mentioned that HPSCI meeting was MEEEEOWWWW!!! HISSS!!!

At any rate, McGahn’s letter suggests that the White House is deferring classification decisions to the DOJ, but who knows with these slippery sonsabitches!

Option 2: House Votes to Override Trump and Declassify

Yeah, right. That craven little pipsqueak Paul Ryan is going to call a vote to declassify evidence of Trump’s collusion with Russia, against the express edict of the DOJ?


Option 3: Someone Pulls a Feinstein

Remember when badass Dianne Feinstein nut-punched Chuck Grassley and released the transcript of Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson telling the Judiciary Committee all the ways Trump is knee-deep in Russian shit? Because what’s Senator Cornhole gonna do — arrest the Senator from California? PFFFFT.

Adam Schiff or Elijah Cummings could just say FUCK IT and read their unredacted memo into the Congressional Record. They can’t be arrested for it, although that loon Nunes would probably leap out of the balcony to tackle anyone who tried to do it. But Democrats have consistently said they’d cooperate with DOJ on classification, so Devin is probably spared an embarrassing asskicking in the well of the House. Lucked out!

Option 4: No Memo, THE END

Well, Democrats could let the matter drop. But they’ve said from the very beginning that they intended to work with DOJ to protect national security secrets. So, we’re rating this one not bloody likely.


Option 1: Democrats Work with DOJ to Publish a Redacted Memo. But who the hell knows! We’ll keep you posted!

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  • Asterix

    When all of this memoshit started I said trumpy would claim the Dem version couldn’t be released for “NATIONAL SECURITY” reasons… which he’s done. The only way this memo gets seen is if someone leaks it. trumpy and his minions will never release the memo, even if heavily redacted.

  • OneYieldRegular

    Option #5: Wait for the bestseller mass-market paperback version by Rhonda Byrne.

  • Daniel

    This memo is ten pages long. Ten.
    That’s longer than the Bible and War and Peace combined.

    No one can read that much document.

    • “M”

      Especially when they’re not lazy, like those DACA kids *rolls eyes so hard they’re in danger of falling out of her head*

      Anyway, didn’t businessman IQ45 tell everybody he was “too busy to read”? I so can’t with these fascist incompetents …

    • LosFelizGuy

      The MAGA Maggots surely can’t/won’t read it. They see chRumps tweets as gospel.

    • Miles Monroe

      Mahābhārata or GTFO

      • Daniel

        That’s not actually that long, it’s just once you finish it it starts again.

        • weighmaster

          The document that never ends?

          • H0mer0

            They all die in the end anyway

  • tinker12
    • vivian

      Of course. A trash barrel looks more fit than the President.

    • mary5920

      To be fair, that box should have a more elaborate lid with some shredded paper to resemble the elaborate comb over of the Dumpster.

    • LosFelizGuy
      • puredog

        I’ve always resisted the idea of getting a tattoo because I can’t think of anything I would not come to regret. This image does nothing to disabuse me of that notion.

        • Rooster Cogburn105

          Great conversation starter, though

          although that conversation may lead someone to the E.R. or County Lockup, or both

          • deadjello

            I worked with a dipshit who would meet anyone that didn’t know him with the phrase “I have a cock that hangs below my knee” and then roll up his pantleg to reveal a tattoo of a rooster hung by the neck on his lower leg. Everybody wanted to beat his ass.

      • Dg Hacket

        His ankle is probably getting more action than he is

    • TJ Barke

      I wonder if future history articles will use pics like this…

  • Daniel

    Do any of the ridiculously numerous news pieces on Trump supporters explain how they reconcile his blatant contradictions?

    • OrG


    • Jonny On Maui

      Faith. Trump supporters have a deep abiding faith.

      And absolutely zero contact with reality…

      • geoffalnutt

        That’s EXACTLY what faith is. Any kind.

        • Jonny On Maui

          I look at faith as an untested hypothesis. If you don’t perform the test, your faith is meaningless.

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      Obliviousness to facts and reality.

  • TundraGrifter

    Regarding this new Memo Mr. Trump Tweeted “tldr.”

  • Jonny On Maui

    Ya know, it’s crap like this that makes me look forward to my time in the cane grass mines.

    • Shanzgood (18 Days!)

      Is cane grass just considered an invasive weed or does it have uses?

      • Jonny On Maui

        I believe the only use is exercise for me. That and weight loss. I shouldn’t complain. It works.

        • deadjello

          I made the mistake of planting giant reed grass as a privacy screen about eight years ago (this is in central Ohio). After a few years it was taking me most of a week to cut down, cut into truck bed size, and haul it to the landfill where I would inevitably get a flat. This year I paid almost two thousand dollars to have that shit dug out with a backhoe. I don’t know if it is the same as cane grass but that shit is evil.

          • Jonny On Maui

            Evil is right. I don’t think the stuff can be killed…

  • azeyote

    surprise – it’s easy to see the day to day future with these morons –

  • dslindc

    Some Democrat needs to spine up and sprint to the House Chamber for memo story time.

  • Cogswell that ends well

    Posted this on the previous thread but it’s more appropriate here.

    • Daniel

      “Political” and “politicize” do not mean what they appear to mean. Like “fake news” they mean “things Trump doesn’t like and can’t argue on their factual merits”.

      • Jonny On Maui

        Like trump can argue facts. He hates facts. They go against what he uses for reality.

  • Scooby

    They could also release it through interpretive dance.

  • memzilla Ω

    I predict that Wonkette Hero Rep. Schiff (D-Straight Arrow) will read not only the Dem Memo, but also the self-serving redactions the White House wanted, onto the Floor of the House, the same Floor that he will then use the Swiffer-head of Devin Nunes (R-Ubles) to mop.

    • LosFelizGuy

      I really hope so. The only way I could be prouder of rep Schiff is if he started fighting a little dirtier.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        I already called his office once to urge him to release it. I guess I can do a follow-up call on Monday!

    • Miles Monroe

      Nunes’ head is the opposite of a Swiffer–it would just add a whole bunch of s*** that wasn’t there before.

  • HazooToo

    So there’s no Option 5 where WaPo gets a copy of the memo in the middle of the night and just publishes it?

    • msanthropesmr

      Since it’s not in Repukelican hands, it won’t leak. I think the Dems take security way more seriously.

      • HazooToo

        I guess so. I am just exhausted by dickery.

  • folderol

    Twenty twenty twenty-four hours to go
    It’s gotta be redacted
    Nothing to see, it’s only for show
    It’s gotta be redacted

    Just get me my black sharpie, put in in my fist
    Hurry, hurry, hurry, no more can I resist
    I can’t control my fingers, there’s not a line I missed
    Oh no oh oh oh

    Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba, I want it all redacted
    Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba, I want it all redacted
    Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba, I want it all redacted
    Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba, I want it all redacted

  • President in Exile Firefly

    The GOP memo is a nunesburger anyway.

    • Somsai Resist

      Does that come with Amero fries.

  • Mike Minden

    Only one way to deal with these hypocritical rat-fuckers – read the unredacted memo into the House record.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    A member reads the memo into the record from the House floor

    Dear Representative Adam Schiff,



    Your constituents & loyal Americans everywhere

  • Stable Uniomist Raan

    I think it’ll probably be option one, followed by option five (read the redacted memo into the congressional record) when Trump wants the rest of it redacted.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    that loon Nunes would probably leap out of the balcony to tackle anyone who tried to do it

    Pretty sure that’s nothing Adam couldn’t handle, and Elijah would probably sweep the floor with that fucker. #ReleaseTheDemMemo #RightFucking Now

    • Stable Uniomist Raan

      Schiff could probably just hold his fist out and let Nunes run headlong into it.

      • Daniel

        “Donald Trump is on the other side of that wall, Devin.”
        [Excited panting, rapid footsteps, loud thumping sound]

        • Stable Uniomist Raan

          “Mr. Chairman, the president is waiting for you at the end of this tunnel.”

      • Eileen Besse


      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Bugs Bunny vs Yosemite Sam.

    • Blender_415

      Hey RFC! As usual, you’re a few steps ahead of me. Have a great weekend!

  • kareemachan

    My brain hurtz…

  • Blender_415

    Option #3! Option #3! And let it be Elijah Cummings reading it into the record; I’d love to watch Nunes pee himself in frustration b/c the esteemed representative from Maryland has no fucks to give and could make Nunes cry with one of those awesome stares of his.

    • rufus magister

      Is Al Franken still there? In character, as Stuart Smalley. Because they’re bad enough, and dumb enough, and gosh darn it, people hate them.

  • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

    The Nunes Memo was a dog that wouldn’t hunt, so I’m not even sure we need the Dem Memo to leash the Nunes Memo dog, sparing the truth scavenging raccoon that is Robert Mueller from being treed and killed by the hillbilly idiots which are the Trump Republicans.
    I can go no further with this metaphor.

    • Somsai Resist

      So you are saying there really is a doggy memo dossier.

      • khanurik

        With all due respect, you need to be careful about what you post on this here mommy blog. If one of the Fox and Friends nitwits see your post, there would be wall-to-wall coverage about how dogs are corrupt at the highest levels. Full disclosure: as a cat person I’ve always believed that dogs are corrupt at the highest levels. The doggy memo dossier just proves it. And yeah, I know: dog libelzz… Get over it.

  • can it be number 3? please let it be number 3!

  • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

    I think it should be read on the floor of the House by James Earl Jones. Or better yet, Samuel L. Jackson. The House could use a few “Motherfuckers” being tossed about.

    • Msgr_MΩment
    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      Auntie Maxine would be an awesome voice, too. She would suffer no fools.

      • khanurik

        Plus, also, too, she would reclaim her time..

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    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      in more ways than one.

    • Rooster Cogburn105

      “I’m Tired of these Motherfuckin’ Russians in this Motherfuckin’ government!”

      “Say ‘ Believe Me’ One More Time Motherfucker, I dare you, I double-dog dare you!”

  • Stable Uniomist Raan

    Serious question guys, should we be trying to Bugs Bunny Trump into releasing the unredacted memo? Just convince him through Twitter that there’s something about Hillary in them, because everyone on Earth knows he doesn’t read shit.

    • AuntyMaude

      That could actually work.

  • Khavrinen

    Option 1: Redact every word except for “the”, “a”, “and”, “on”, “for”, etc….

    • Marion in Savannah

      I guess “is” would have to go too, right? (Harkening back to The Great Penis Hunt from years gone by.)

      • DT

        That is STILL one of the greatest, most misunderstood retort in political history.

  • A redacted memo would be an embarrassment to the Dems. Option 3 it is..

  • Belasaurius

    Having not lived through Watergate, was this what it was like? The constant back and forth, the daily smear campaign, the slow slow drip drip drip of shit onto the Constitution? I know the podcast Slow Burn is trying to recreate the Watergate build up, but I feel like holy fuck, how did people not crack up, or maybe they did, ie the rest of the 1970s

    • Belasaurius

      disclosure: born in ’72

    • therblig

      watergate involved due process (to quote an orange shitgibbon) and there were even some principled republicans involved. ultimately, an evil man saw no way out and did the right thing.

    • Me_And_My_Arrow

      Exhilarating, to be sure. I was delivering the Washington Post in Jr. high at the time.

    • Ellie

      It did give us the bumpersticker:
      Nixon Is A Cox Sacker

      • LucindathePook

        I had to explain this to my very straight, naïve and just plain stupid MIL.

        • Ellie

          We needed SOME humor to get us through Tricky Dicky.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Back then we had Barbara Jordan. One of my most major heroes. She gave this speech during the impeachment hearings. If you have never heard it, please, please, PLEASE watch it. This is the sort of person who used to be a representative from Texas:

      • Ellie

        She was an admirable woman and should never be forgotten.

      • OscillateSauce

        Thank you for posting this important speech from a great American. At the time, I was in the Navy overseas. I watched Ms. Jordan’s speech with awe. You could feel her passion through the television. I really liked her opening about once being oppressed and now being the jury. BTW, the entire US military went to full alert when Nixon resigned. Good times.

    • idiotboy

      Not really Imo, no social media, no fox, nazis stayed undercover, and Russia was our arch enemy.
      Fuck everything but the circus.

      • Marion in Savannah

        YMMV, but I was glued to the TV during the hearings.

        • idiotboy

          We even had them on in classes at my catholic high school. My parents lost a few friends during that time, it definitely was divisive.

          • Marion in Savannah

            I was in my mid 20s when it was going on. I’d get home from work and the TV would go on. Public TV had the hearings on live, and when they rose for the day they’d rebroadcast the entire thing all night long. I got almost no sleep…

          • Eileen Besse

            YES! I was in college at UMass Amherst, and–BOY!!!!

    • Toomush Stability

      Yeah, but it was televised better. When the hearings were held, everyone’s afternoon for weeks was a wasted, drinking, swearing at the tv time thoughout America… and then we had broadcasters who would accurately recap in time for the evening news at 6 and 10…

    • marksb

      Without social media, pie-fight blogs and mommyblogs, plus ubiquitous streaming of everything, it was more…sedate. Paced. Moderate.
      However, in Oct 1973, I was active duty in the Coast Guard, which was one way to avoid Vietnam if you were unlucky enough to have bone spurs and could ace the pre-enlistment test. I was home one weekend and received a call mid-morning on Saturday advising me that I–and every single active-duty military person–were now on Alert status that would require one-hour return to duty station on the next phone call. Huh. I hit the LA Times to see What Was Up, and other than the usual crap in the Middle East, which wasn’t hot at that moment, nothing. So I went and worked on my car, and midway through a tuneup I thought, “Nixon tapes? Really?” Sure enough, that night was the Saturday Night Massacre and once Cox was fired our Alert status was called off. It could have been an actual emergency that failed to happen, but I really think Nixon and All The President’s Men had martial law using the military as one option and that option was high enough on the priority list that someone called an official Alert. A truly weird moment.

    • AuntyMaude

      I was 13 or 14 when the shit went down. I felt bad for John Mitchell being grilled by congress on t.v. I thought his being put on the spot to answer questions was so mean. I have since lost my nievate. Many jokes were made at his wife Martha Mitchell’s expense. She had a BIG mouth (okay on a man but never on a lady). So that’s my recollection and I’m stickin’ with it.

    • Eileen Besse

      We did.

    • ScrwUStillaTexanLibrul

      I was 10 in 1974, when Nixon resigned. Actually studied American political history for a while in college to figure out WTF all that was that messed up my afternoon cartoons and TV reruns from 1973 and 1974. It was incredibly divisive–that part is kind of like today, but people were more polite about it. First real argument I ever remember my parents having was over Nixon. Both were liberal Democrats, but Mom wanted him prosecuted and jailed, Dad just wanted him resigned and gone so the country could move forward. They NEVER fought, and they were almost screaming over Nixon. I was highly confused, had actually kinda gravitated towards Nixon as a very little kid, and remember the slow drama of the Watergate hearings well, if not with adult comprehension. “What did the President know and when did he know it?” and both my parents delighting in Barbara Jordan’s questions. Strange, troubled times, that I don’t think we’ve ever truly recovered from as a nation.

  • therblig

    ot, but cleaning up and archving some old hard drives and found “taking tiger mountain by strategy”. how long before trumpy insists on operas like this?

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    The Nunes memo was more powerful when no one knew what was in it. Could the same thing be said about the Schiff memo?

    • Lefty Wright

      Not likely. But I doubt it will change the minds of any Trump loyalist. Any time you have an official, point by point refutation of propaganda, it helps keep the population informed. People who never hear or block out information will not be affected. And you can get Fox News would never release the full Democratic memo. They would pull bits and pieces out of context.

      • Lara

        On the other hand, who is the Dem memo going to convince? The left already knows Nunes’ memo was BS, and there’ll be no convincing the Fox-News-Indoctrinated right.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “t is perfectly legitimate to use a biased witness with prior indicia of credibility is to establish probable cause”

    and that’s when i knew it was a $5F piece

    • Fivedollarfeminist

      Who you calling a dork?!??

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      I saw the word “indicia” and I knew I was home.

      • Dg Hacket

        Your nym is apropos

  • Begin Anew Day

    Can we order one of these and gift it to the HPSCI?

    I think Adam Schiff can tie some decent knots so he would be the perfect choice to lash DEVIN to this wonderful contraption.

    Wait a minute Adam! Why are you removing the parachute?

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      There’s also the Catherine Wheel.

      I’ll let all y’all use The Google to get to that one.

      • ScrwUStillaTexanLibrul

        David Byrne version or medieval Gitmo version?

        • Lord High theCryptofishist

          19th century as included in an Oscar Wilde short story.

        • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

          Of course. Yes.

    • data_ninja

      I love a device that you not only have to ignite with a very long stick, but you keep running like hell after doing so.

      • Begin Anew Day

        It don’t get any better than this!


  • Lefty Wright

    A memo with DOJ redactions would not be released by the GOP majority on the Intelligence Committee, so reading it from the floor will be necessary whatever happens.

  • A Rick

    If memo gets released or not I honestly don’t care. We all know Trump and his ilk are criminals and the memo is just going to fuel further outrage that will go nowhere in congress. Mueller is what I’m banking on but he has it rough. Indicting a sitting POTUS creates a constitutional cluster fuck.

    • BigCSouthside

      But a state AG indicting an impeached ex president doesn’t

      We gotta win 2018

  • Angela Ruzzo

    You left out the 5th option … someone leaks the memo anonymously. It would be very risky, but it’s not impossible.

  • BigCSouthside

    Fuck that. Read that shit into record immediately. Fuck trump and fuck his DOJ

    • Cucker “Dick” Tarlson

      This right here.

    • anon_the_great

      AFTER we own the House.

  • Husband Of Mrs God

    That Seinfeld gif — I can hear him saying “Nunes!”

  • Eileen Besse

    WICKED PROPS for the use of “indicia”!!!!!!

  • Dg Hacket

    Now the press needs to ask why their version was ok to release and ours wasnt.

  • Cornelius Fussbudget

    Julian Assange could post the Democratic memo on Wikileaks. After all, he’s completely nonpartisan and only concerned with government transparency, right? He says that all the time so it must be true.

    • Spurning Beer

      I misunderstood. I thought that Julian Assange’s body was totally transparent.

      • Cornelius Fussbudget

        Not quite, but he’s just about clear enough that you can tell what he had for dinner.

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      • Lord High theCryptofishist

        It’s amazing what three years out of the sun will do.

    • shivaskeeper

      Sure he could. It’s about as likely as the full House voting to release it.

  • littlegreen

    No one could have predicted this. It’s a shocking turn of events.

    Trump complained that the memo is “very long,” yet another reminder of his struggle with the written word. Why hasn’t Betsy DeVos found him reading tutor? He could be homeschooled.

    • AuntyMaude

      or he could take an online course through a private education corp.

      • rufus magister

        Can’t he have Jared give the gist of it? I mean, that’s what will happen, anyway.

      • BrianW

        I think most of those want you to pay first. So, that’s never gonna happen.

      • Klapaucius

        Is Trump University still available ?

    • rufus magister

      My god, it’s TEN WHOLE PAGES. It like freakin’ “War & Peace.”

    • anon_the_great

      Perhaps a memo with pictures and an activity page would be more to Twilter’s liking.

      Oh Lil Donnie, how will that rabbit get to the carrot? Won’t you help him out of the maze?

      • littlegreen

        Camels. He does okay with camel pics.

        • TundraGrifter

          “What day is it?”

          • Peter Witting

            “I draw only the best clocks.”

    • Donna Mueller

      he was homeschooled-that’s a part of the reason this is happening!

    • Lord High theCryptofishist

      I hope she can provide him with a civics teacher, also, too.

  • anon_the_great

    No Dems, don’t do dumb here. Let Twilter sit on the memo. No memo like one that can’t be debunked.

    • littlegreen

      Agree. Plus, Nunes’ chief accusation was that the FICA court wasn’t told democrats paid for Steele’s memo.

      That’s been proved false. Republicans have plainly stated that: A) Nunes got it wrong; and B) The memo has no bearing on the Mueller investigation.

      Dems are best off sticking to talking points regarding Nunes known errors, Gowdy’s statements, and Trump’s biases and BS about transparency. Not to mention the silliness of thinking Hillary conspired with the FBI to have them throw the election to Trump.

      It will only complicate matters if the Dems do an end run around the DoJ and DNI.

      • javadavis

        Republicans have now applied their CYA comments on how lame the memo is, very quietly so their high-outrage base won’t notice. But the memo is now out there to be lavishly misrepresented. This will get enough Rs out to vote in 2018, and be loud about it, to cover any chicanery that steals D votes.
        Anyone else think this might happen? Check out the supermarket tabloids before you answer. I know they are ridiculous, but does you rage uncle know that? And he votes, doesn’t he.
        This is still dangerous.

        • littlegreen

          I agree Nunes gave the base a whole new delusion to disseminate. And I suppose you’re right that the Repubs who spoke up did so quietly.

          I haven’t seen the tabloids. I have seen evil Hannity and Limbaugh carry on — and they really do make me question the value of free speech. Maybe there ought to be laws against bald-faced lying.

          I agree Nunes memo must be countered as clearly, effectively, and loudly as possible… and I’m confident Schiff’s memo will be published before the midterms.

          But is it urgent? Must Schiff’s rebuttal be released in days? I guess you think it must and you may be right. I’m not so sure and rather enjoy giving Trump more opportunity to showcase his determination to obstruct justice. The way I see it, the sooner this episode ends, the more time he has to disseminate a new delusion. But I could be wrong.

          • javadavis

            The timing of the publication of the memo is sort of beside the point. The dissemination and propagandizing of the memo is more what I am looking at.
            For the propaganda uses, the shorter Nunes memo is fine. In fact, at ten pages, is it(?), it is short enough for many of the t-pubs to read for themselves. Then they just tune into their favorite right wing sources to get told what it means – or they just read the headlines in the enquirer while they wait to check out.
            The Schiff memo will debunk Nunes, but it won’t help unless someone can explain to the masses (in bumper sticker sized text) why and how this debunks Nunes. It won’t get play at all on the right-wing sources, probably, but keeping it short and simple might give it a chance to pass through their chyrons.

      • sarafina

        The dossier was begun as oppo research for the 2016 campaign, paid for by a REBPULICAN candidate (Jeb Bush), was it not?

  • littlegreen

    The truth is Trump is good at obstructive games.

    The Dems raised hell about Nunes ignoring the advice of the DoJ and FBI. If they read the memo into record, they’ll be guilty of hypocrisy.

    They can’t be outraged by Nunes, then follow in his slimy footsteps.

    #3 isn’t an option.

  • Harry Nuggets

    The first one was anti-climatic, what with Donnie’s week long pre-release marketing blitz. It doesn’t exonerate him of anything. It doesn’t really have anything to do with him. So it’s been a pretty much a dud. It provides him with no cover should he take out Rosenstein.

    The Dems should just move on. The President looks so dim he can’t even grasp that his hi-jinks are completely obvious. That’s what happens when you surround yourself with sycophants. He’s still going to down like the Hinderburg. Will enjoy watching Nunes, Ryan, Miller, Kushner etc. on flames screaming as they plumet to the earth.

    • TundraGrifter

      Time for the old joke: What’s the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg?

      One is a bloated Nazi gasbag.

      The other is a dirigible.

  • YouInDangerGirl!

    Okay, so what are the consequences if this memo gets leaked? Apparently 10,000 people in DC have seen it, so it would be hard to trace it back to a particular person; then, would the media outlet that chose to publish it get into legal trouble? Seriously asking.

    • littlegreen

      Someone could leak it.

      But Nunes memo was a dud, it’s been critiqued everywhere. I doubt there’s much new in Schiff’s memo.

      FAR BETTER to let fat Donald keep obstructing justice. Let him redact… let him create more hard evidence that he’s trying to hide stuff and suppress facts.

      It will catch up with him someday.

    • TundraGrifter

      They don’t want to give the Regressives any more reason(s) to disparage the Memo itself. Leaking it would create an unnecessary distraction. Besides, if there is one thing we learned from the Numbnutz Memo it’s that the document may be more powerful when it is still a secret.

  • You should ice that burn

    The real story is that Paul Ryan is fine with Nunes’ fuckery, whatever Nunes does attribute to Ryan, because it’s HIS HIPSCI that is being run as a cover-up shop for the traitors at the highest levels the GOP. I’m not sure why the Dems aren’t demanding Nunes be tossed off the chairmanship, that theater with taking “secret info” from the WH to the WH should have sealed his fate. What legitimate purpose did that serve? Everybody just let that pass? WTF?

    • (Nasty Girl) Brianna #RESIST

      They are demanding that. But nobody is listening, per usual.

  • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

    READ IT INTO THE RECORD. Nice and slow, so everyone can take notes.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      But there will have to be pictures and other illustrations. Nunez and Trump, you know.

      • Johnny Appleseed

        Valid point. In crayon so they can comprehend the illustrations without bothering to read a whole 10 pages. Our smartest ever in history President thinks it’s far too long. Question: who wrote his Wharton papers? Someone out there was paid handsomely for THAT secret!

        • Zyxomma

          I said this years ago. Some poor shmok at Wharton was paid to write all Donny’s papers and take the tests for him. Yes, someone has a story to tell. I am personally acquainted with someone who wrote papers and took tests to pay her way through college. She had a huge academic load, and didn’t want to be a waitress, so she put her MENSA brain to good use.

      • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

        I don’t care about them, I am thinking of the people who are capable of understanding it.

  • Jesse

    Three words: Release the fucker!

  • guppy06

    HIPSCI Democrats

    Sorry, but this has been bugging me for a little while:

    Committee on

    Only one “I.”

    • Fivedollarfeminist

      Oh, shit! Sorry. Thanks.

    • Rooster Cogburn105


    • InDogsWeTrust

      HPSCOI. Prepositions deserve respect too.

  • Rooster Cogburn105

    Hearing Trump Talk or Vogon Poetry, hmmmm, have to get back to you on that one

  • Molon Labe

    If getting the memo released didn’t have some sort of value to the republicans, why did the democrats fight its release?

    I think its time to fold’em or show’em. Release the counter memo and everything else that has an ounce of relevance to this. To me understanding Trump can release the FISA warrant application any time he chooses. He needs to do it.

  • andyshelt

    President Dunning-Kruger is whining that the memo is “political and long”.

    I guess that means that the dipshit has not even read the whole fucking thing before getting distracted by something showing on Fox News.

    Spolier alert, Donnie. Shorter version of the memo.

    Putin and the Russians did it and the tl;dr version shows the Nunes memo to be a complete pile of bullshit.

    • Last Hussar

      Politicians talking about politics sent a political memo to the country’s top politician.

      In retrospect, if he ran his businesses like this, 6 bankruptcies look successful.

  • Zyxomma

    Thanks, $5F. I love the way you lawsplain, and I really like that you show your work.

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