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Yr Wonkette was visited by a History Expert last week, and that genius taught us a thing or two about some important history knowledge from American history, in response to our story last Saturday about Joy Reid’s Bible Fight with Trump-loving “pastor” Mark Burns, who thinks Jesus loves Americans First. Like many rightwingers, commenter “GoldBell” wanted to clarify that in real reality, Democrats don’t actually care about black people, as if black Democrats weren’t the very voters who less than a month ago kept child-molesty racist Roy Moore from a US Senate seat.

Ah, but “GoldBell” had a more novel twist in the topic than the old “Democrat plantation” welfare-dependency line! We had a scholar of history here:

Democrats do not give a damn about Black America.

ABSOLUTE PROOF –

All the way back to Booker T Washington and WEB De Bois debates, Black Americans have always been hurt way more than any other group by Over Immigration.

Yep, that W.E.B. De Bois, the great hero of civil rights at the turn of the last century, who disagreed with Booker T. Washington on the Atlanta Compromise and the best course of action for improving black education, and who probably insisted on spelling his name “Du Bois” most of the time, too. He was a great man, and if you haven’t read his debates with Booker T. Washington, you are not as well-educated as “GoldBell,” even if you’re a gooder speller. Our visitor had little patience for those who hadn’t read the transcripts of those debates:

  • Just post you never read the debates or about them and could care less.
  • Just post you do not know one of the most important chapters of black and American history, what it was about, and could care less.

Shame on you clueless liberals who presume to say you care about black people but haven’t even studied black history like “GoldBell” has! Your ignorance betrays you! Could you be any more condescending, you monsters?

In fact, the news of these debates between Washington and Du Bois were news to Yr Doktor Zoom: I’ll readily admit I’m no African-American Studies major. I know the broad outlines, and that Du Bois is seen as advocating a more activist, less accommodationist approach to overcoming segregation than Washington did, and that where Washington advocated vocational education as a practical means of black economic advancement, Du Bois thought black schools and universities should focus on the liberal arts, and that the “talented tenth” of high-achieving African-Americans could serve to advance the interests of equality and desegregation. But I was briefly embarrassed that I’d never known the two had debated face to face.

At least until I went looking for the text of those debates and didn’t find any mention of the two holding any such debate — as far as I can tell, they never stood onstage like Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass to debate each other about the real causes of the Civil War: illegal immigration, tariff rates, and why Andrew Jackson hadn’t prevented the Civil War in the first place. [Before you yell at me in the comments: Yes, I know very well that it was Stephen Douglas who debated Lincoln in 1858, and that the topic was whether the Louisiana Purchase proved the earth was round. Jeeze, so much nit-picking!] The “debate” was largely between supporters of Washington and Du Bois, although yes, Du Bois also critiqued Washington in print. If the two had ever actually held a formal series of debates, most sources I’ve seen haven’t mentioned them, for some reason. Probably liberal PC censorship.

“GoldBell” sure seemed pretty sure DuBois and Washington were angry at Mexicans, though:

It had nothing to do with Irish immigrants, but by all means, keep showing your privileged white liberal ignorance.

And when someone else pointed out that today’s Democrats weren’t exactly the folks setting immigration policy at the time, our intrepid historian wasn’t about to buy that distraction from the real cause of black people’s troubles at the time:

Lame deflection of what too much immigration was doing to black Americans.

Gee. Wonder if maybe anything else might have presented a setback to black political and economic advancement at the time, like maybe Jim Crow and lynching, little things like that? A Wonker pointed that out, and “GoldBell” was ready:

THAT debate was the one Washington and De Bois already did.

If privileged white liberals actually read any black history instead of just some sound bites, they would know that.

And then the question of how to fight Jim Crow was all settled, in that “debate,” we guess. We honestly don’t know where “GoldBell” is cribbing history from, but at least the chronology is sort of right — Du Bois’s most well-known critique of Washington was published in essay form in 1901, then revised and collected as a chapter in 1903’s The Souls of Black Folk, so there’s that.

And yes, both Washington and Du Bois had problems with immigration — though not necessarily for the reasons your average rightwinger today would argue. The rightwing “Center for Immigration Studies” think tank, which likes to play fast and loose with the facts, certainly does its best to rope the two into its anti-immigrant agenda, historical context be damned. They cite this passage from a 1907 book co-authored by Du Bois and Washington, The Negro in the South, to suggest it’s only natural for blacks to oppose immigration, forever:

The voice that calls foreign immigrants southward today is not single but double. First, the exploiter of common labor wishes to exploit this new labor just as formerly he exploited Negro labor . . . the second object of the immigration philosopher is to make sure that, when the rights of the laborer come to be recognized in the South, that laborer will be white, and just so far as possible the black laborer will still be forced down below the white laborer until he becomes thoroughly demoralized or extinct . . . one element remains to be considered, and this is political power. If the black workman is to remain disfranchised while the white native and immigrant not only has the economic defense of the ballot, but the power to use it so as to hem in the Negro competitor, cow and humiliate him and force him to a lower plane, then the Negro will suffer from immigration.

It is becoming distinctly obvious to Negroes that today, in modern economic organization, the one thing that is giving the workman a chance is intelligence and political power, and that it is utterly impossible for a moment to suppose that the Negro in the South is going to hold his own in the new competition with immigrants if, on the one hand, the immigrant has access to the best schools of the community and has equal political power with other men to defend his rights and to assert his wishes, while, on the other hand, his black competitor is not only weighed down by past degradation, but has few or no schools and is disfranchised.

That isn’t really an argument against immigration per se, of course — it’s an argument about white supremacy and the willingness of white power structures to advantage white immigrants as a means of further excluding black people from political and economic power. Way to make honest use of your sources, huh?

On top of that, there’s the dubious notion that some noted historical figure would obviously agree with rightwing Republicans today, which is a tad problematic. In the course of preparing today’s Dear ShitFerBrains I also came across this thing from the National Review which tries to enlist Martin Luther King as an obvious opponent of rights for immigrants, even though King himself never said much on the matter. It’s full of what King “would have” said, if only he’d had the chance, since of course King wanted rights for American citizens, not criminal immigrants. That strikes us as… unlikely. You can’t just pluck someone out of history and assume that if they had lived through the last decades (or over a century), their own views would remain fixed.

Not that “GoldBell” was even trying, of course, since a cartoon version of history works just fine:

  • Democrats and their endless open door policy for cheap labor has been destroying the black family for decades now.
  • Father of Sociology WEB De Bois — Black Americans lack of opportunity from too much cheap labor immigration. Read it.
  • Take visa workers as one example. Black children were encouraged to study STEM areas and get degrees. They did but who got hired instead of them? Visa workers from India and Pakistan.

    Cheap foreing labor flooding the USA has always harmed black America the most. Stats are part of history. Proven since days of WEB De Bois, the father of US Sociology.

And finally, “GoldBell” got to the Democrat Plantation, though not quite invoking that term, after someone suggested they were peddling racist arguments:

The accusation of racism has been used to manipulate black America by white privileged liberals way past its due date.

Well there you go: Black people are incapable of thinking for themselves, so obviously, duplicitous white liberals have tricked them into voting for Democrats just by accusing Republicans of being racists. Although… suggesting that blacks have all been tricked into thinking racism is still a problem is kind of racist, isn’t it?

Since “GoldBell’s” comment history is set to “private,” we weren’t able to see whether this is something they argue all the time, but a bit of searching their rather unusual username brought us some enlightening results. Not surprisingly, “GoldBell” isn’t buying the claim that Jorge Garcia, the Detroit father of two who was deported earlier this month, had a “no criminal record.” On another site, “GoldBell” explains Garcia was actually a career criminal, and anyone who says otherwise is a racist who thinks Messicans should be allowed to break the law:

  • He is a Career Criminal. The ONLY way he could have been supported that many decades inside the US illegally would be by breaking one law after another, from federal to state to local.
  • You are the racist. You think people should be allowed to break laws because of their race or ethnicity.

But wait — “GoldBell” has other thoughts on racism! Mostly, “GoldBell” doesn’t like how blacks are so racist. In a comment after George Zimmerman was acquitted in the murder of Trayvon Martin, “GoldBell” explained that Trayvon was killed by his own racism, in fact:

Black America has a serious problem in teaching racism to their children.

Their hate filled reaction to a man proven to be innocent is teaching it even more.

Trayvon used a racial slur and was the attacker.

Zimmerman used self defense.

Racist Black America is urging more black teens to hate and commit violence just like Trayvon did.

Yup, those privileged white liberals really need to learn a thing or two about history and racial equality from this guy. Still, we’ll give “GoldBell” credit for this much: We took a brief refresher course on W.E.B. Du Bois this weekend, and that was actually far more worthwhile than anything “Goldbell” said. So, thanks, jerk.

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  • tehbaddr

    DoK! You’re here! Thanx!

  • OddMan
    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Nazis. Wouldn’t you know, Poland itself is run by Nazis also too.

      • onedollarjuana

        I guess sending him to Poland is kind of a U.S. shitzkrieg.

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          We need an uprising. A watershed moment.

          We could call it… the Poland Spring.

        • natoslug

          Given that Poland is an EU country, I’d be willing to take his place in deportation. At the very least, I could have a pleasant winter/spring wandering about to see where my ancestors were slaughtered by the OG Nazis.

    • Daniel

      They fled an authoritarian dictatorship where they’d be subject to arbitrary arrest and detention for imagined crimes against the state.
      Out of the frying pan.

    • doktorzoom

      See? The New Cruelty isn’t racist! Yay!

      • Daniel

        It wouldn’t surprise me to learn this is why they’d decided to do it.

        • doktorzoom

          Oh, looks like he was one of those dangerous CRIMINAL ALIENS:

          The only spot on Niec’s record is two misdemeanor convictions when he was 17, one for destruction of property less than $100 and receiving and concealing stolen goods.

          He pleaded to these charges more than 25 years ago under the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act that allows young first offenders to avoid a criminal record if they never offend again.

          But ICE — a federal agency — does not honor that state plea agreement, something Niec did not know when he took the plea, according to family.

    • onedollarjuana

      But he’s been stealing good doctor jobs from Americans!

      Oh, that’s right, we have a SHORTAGE of doctors.

    • Scooby
      • wavicles

        That seems phony.

        • Scooby

          It is from Johnny Dangerously.

      • Crank Tango

        Fargin ICE-holes.

        • goonemeritus

          Bostichs

    • Sally

      What have we become? A hateful, scared populace thanks to the screaming warnings from Trump and company. This is horrible.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        The Failers who voted for Brexit, they’re not exactly fond of Polish workers being in their country either. It’s not only Muslims they want expelled but all other E.U. citizens. So much for “solidarity.” And Poland itself has a fascist government now. The governing party is literally called the Law & Order Party (actually called Law & Justice Party, but you get the idea). Trump, the deplorables and the Brexiteers, every last one of them is a real dickwolf.

        • doktorzoom

          What if Poland re-deports him here, for crimes against the Soviets?

          • OddMan

            Then we will deport him right back!

            “Mr. President, we must not allow… a deportation gap!”

          • goonemeritus

            Soon we will all be stateless, the good new is wars will be smaller, the bad news is there will millions more of them.

    • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

      A doctor and a lawyer, well ICE is really going after the dangerous people in this country.

      https://media.tenor.com/images/587622baf8e4a90eaeb9fb9418b6c358/tenor.gif

    • Bub the very stable zombie

      ICE sounded better in the original German:
      “Einwanderung und Custome Durchsetzung”

      Papiere, bitte.

    • Bub the very stable zombie

      Look on the bright side! I’m sure there is some asshole in a MAGA hat who can take over the doctor’s practice despite having no relevant training or experience. After all, If Trump can be president…

    • theCryptofishist

      But he likes Slavs! That asshole.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      So much for the Dems and their “artificial deadline” for DACA, seeing as how Donnie promised not to do anything until March

      • doktorzoom

        Niec would have been too old to qualify for DACA, like Jorge Garcia was.

        Hey, if he wins his case, we can run a Niec Time article!

      • Lord Jim

        I hope the Democrats hold their ground and continue to shout about Donnie and the Rethugs’ lies, dithering, and backtracking.

        Donnie and the Rethugs is my new postmodern buttrock band, BTW.

  • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

    This history lesson needs less Goldbell and MOAR COWBELL!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_MWeOs8Ffg

    • Toledo Window Box

      Will Ferrell is hosting SNL next weekend.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        Should be fun.

        I keep hoping for a Jeopardy skit with Trump, Kim and Trudeau.

        Trudeau: “I’ll take ‘Quantum Computing’ for $200.”
        Trebek: “Prime Minister, please stop showing off.”
        Trump: “The cyber. OK, what is the cyber? No, really, what is it? It’s modern-day presidential! My son, he’s 10 years old, for all I know he could be talking to some 400-pound Internet troll sitting on the bed, or on the toilet, sending out a nuclear signal to the Persians. You know the Persians? The Persians, they’re incredible, they just killed us. Let me tell you about my uncle, John Trump at M.I.T. Very smart, really great genius. Like Justin here. So the Persians –”
        Trebek: “Prime Minister, could you do your country and the rest of the world a favor and punch that 400-pound Internet troll?”

      • Resistor Radio

        I’m sure we’ll get a W “miss me now?” sketch

      • Paul

        I’m sorry but I’ve never understood why folks think he or Steve Martin are funny.

        • Odd. I’ve always thought Steve Martin is hilarious, but find Ferrel to be boring.

  • Marion in Savannah

    I knew this asshole would win the DSFB sweepstakes this week.

  • onedollarjuana

    But he’s been stealing good doctor jobs from Americans!

    Oh, that’s right, we have a SHORTAGE of doctors.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      We don’t need doctors. Just pray the pain away. And if it doesn’t work, and you die, well, it’s either because Jesus doesn’t love you or Jesus loves you so much that he wants to take you home.

      • willi0000000

        lucky me then . . . i’m already home.

  • tehbaddr

    You know who else failed to show up for a debate?

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Teh Debbil.

    • dslindc

      Paul Ryan in 2012? Seriously, OHJB mopping the floor with him is still one of my favorites.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      Richard J. Daley?

      • willi0000000

        he didn’t have to show . . . he just sent 3000 riot equipped cops.

        [ surprisingly enough . . . he won ]

    • major_asshole

      Wait wait–wasn’t it Trump? I seem to remember him weaseling out of a debate to have a “fundraiser” for the troops when one of his ridiculous demands wasn’t met.

      And then he only paid the charity when he was called out on it.

  • The Very Stable Librarian

    Trayvon Martin used a racial slur and Zimmerman killed him for that reason? Way to go revisionist history!!

    • Me not sure

      “Oh God, I’ve been shot!!” is a racial slur?

      • willi0000000

        it is if you’re not white.

        [ it’ll get you shot a few more times ]

    • Michael R

      Is Zimmerman aware of this ?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      I thought George Z killed Trayvon because he wouldn’t share his purple drank?

      • I don’t care whether Trayvon attacked Zimmerman or not. If someone insulted me and told me I had no business making a purchase at a convenience store, then followed me down a dark street and left his car to confront me when no one else was around (hand in pocket most likely), I would have considered myself in grave danger. I would have attacked immediately with votes and considered it self defense.

        If you have any Trump fanboy relatives or coworkers, describe that scenario, only make Trayvon a white teenager and Zimmerman a large black adult, and see how they react.

  • Lefty Wright

    Yeah, sometimes refuting the stupid from the right is worth the aggravation. You can learn lots of things you never really looked at in detail and come up with all sorts of facts that show how stupid they really are. Not that it will change their minds, but at least you gained insight.

    • doktorzoom

      I learned far more about the Holocaust — and about historiography — from my time debunking Nazis on alt.revisionism in the late 90s/early Oughts than I ever did in school.

      • doktorzoom

        (Of course, I was not a history major)

      • Resistor Radio

        We ought to use “oughts” more often.

        • weejee

          But would that make us a bunch of zeros?

          / Truth in posting: did not study words in kollege, studied the maths & fizzics

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Weird!!! I dint.

          • Resistor Radio

            Is fizzics the study of alka seltzer and mentos in diet coke? You kids with your crazy majors!

      • Lefty Wright

        Yeah, I think it’s the fact that some people are curious and want to know why, not just parrot the latest thing they heard from someone they think is smart. Personally, I don’t trust much of what I hear in comments without checking claims, going to links, and going to links of links. Of course by doing that, you get a very refined bulllshit meter and amass a great deal of knowledge. The more you do it, the less you have to research because you have already investigated many claims. At least that seems to be the pattern for most Wonkers.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Fun fact: W.E.B. De Buque invented the Bacon, Lettuce, and Tomato Sandwich, saving the early Iowa pioneers who were starving despite being surrounded by bacon.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Who invented the Iowa Breadbag shoe?

      • msanthropesmr

        Johnny Ryall.

        • Resistor Radio

          Who do you think you are?
          (Since everything puts a beastie boys song in my head)

          • Arolpin

            As long as you don’t put your dick in the mashed potatoes.

    • Toomush Stability

      I thought he invented the Internet, or at least the spiders…

      • msanthropesmr

        Well Mr. President, it’s the bees and spiders again.

      • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

        Wait I thought the interwebs where invented in the 1600’s?

    • Me not sure

      A rasher misstatement of facts I’ve never seen. Let us reason together.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      And George Hamilton Carver taught him how to put peanut butter on it because he sensed the coming of Elvis was nigh.

      • Me not sure

        He was Black? I thought he was just well tanned.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        Tennessee Ernie Williams enjoyed those sandwiches when he was writing his play, A Hot Tin Roof on the Erie Canal.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          That’s on TCM right now!!! And Meet Me in St. Lawrence is on right after!

        • President in Exile Firefly

          That’s the one with the Jewish fiddler?

      • Phried Ω

        He had a fabulous tan, also too.

  • OddMan

    It was Lincoln and Kirk Douglas and they were arguing about who was Spartacus. Damn liberals can’t remember a thing.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      I’m Spartacus!

      • Toomush Stability

        No. I’m…..

      • Lord Jim

        No, I’M Spartacus!

        • Celtic_Gnome

          And so’s my wife!

      • Bad Tom

        Do you like snails?

  • President in Exile Firefly

    “Could you be any more condescending, you monsters?”

    >Peers over top of glasses.< My, that's a pretty big word you used!

    • doktorzoom

      To be fair, it was a word I used. He may think “condescending” has something to do with elevators in prisons.

      • Resistor Radio

        Or former Secretary Rice mailing a letter?

        • theCryptofishist

          Or the way windows get wet when it’s cold outside.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        It’s okay, Dok has a degree in using big words. It’s like being licensed to operate a bulldozer.

      • Me not sure

        Wait! …It doesn’t?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        I thought “condescending” was Nicolas Cage’s failed sequel to Con Air, where the plane miraculously survives the crash landing in Las Vegas, only to run out of fuel over the Nevada desert, where it slowly glides to earth before being shot out of the sky by the Bundy clan, who mistake it for the BLM.

  • Cousin Itt, hoi polloi

    Did you know that Uhura was there only to take phone calls and put aliens on hold?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43ae60995a8b67da38ce1b731e513a0144d32197b83cf391d754721a97bd2120.jpg

    • tehbaddr

      That and Kirk’s chocolate surprise!

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Space telephone operator, space nurse, and space secretary were the jobs women got, and that was a step up from other TV and movies of the era.

      • major_asshole

        Hey heyheyhey–there was that one time a woman worked in the phaser fire control room. (“Balance of Terror,” if memory serves.)

        • data_ninja

          Was she stunning?

        • Latverian Diplomat

          Yes, there were exceptions that were usually single appearance characters who were also love interests for a male character in the same episode.

        • Ms.Moon

          She also pulled a blade on Mirror Sulu in Mirror Mirror in an outfit I will have to work out for 100 years to fit into that was seriously sexy.

    • nightmoth
  • President in Exile Firefly

    I bet he thinks DuBois’s first name is pronounced “web.”

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      He was really great with the cyber. Worldwide Web De Boys is an example of someone who’s being recognized more and more, believe me.

    • Almost.
      He used the French variation where the e is silent.

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    Trayvon used a racial slur

    Well that proves Zimmerman was acting in self defense.

    • BadKitty904

      A crime bearing the mandatory penalty of immediate execution in GOP AmeriKKKa.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      I believe racist slurs carry the death penalty in at least 14 states.

      • Yes, but in twelve of those it doesn’t matter who uses one, it’s the black guy who gets shot.

    • theCryptofishist

      But we only have Zimmerman’s wor–fuck, forget it, Fishy, it’s goldbar.

    • weejee

      This takes me back to the Richard Pryor and Chevy Chase SNL dead honky moment. Yes, it’s on YouTube, but I’m not sharing the link.

  • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

    I wonder how many laws (federal, state and local) GoldBell has broken in his life. After all, every time he went over the speed limit, spit on the sidewalk, or picked up his neighbor’s mail he was committing a crime.

  • Mentally Stable Ron

    Who says SFBs are only good for composting?

  • Anna Rompage

    Sorry folks… I think Goldbell followed me over from the Atlantic.

    I was kind of toying with him/her/it over there a few days ago, and handed them their Breitbart quoting ass on a number of occasions…

    • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

      Thank you for that, I actually learned something from that idjit. Well more from Dok’s research about them but still.

    • Me not sure

      I missed all of this, but you don’t have lure him(?) back on my account.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    Booker T. and WEB did in fact debate. I saw it live on Drunk History.

    • BadKitty904

      I thought it was on that episode of Dr. Who

    • Bill D. Burger

      It took place just outside Bowling Green and just before the massacre.

      • Covfefe

        If Booker T and GoldBust hadn’t had their silly debate, there wouldn’t have been a Bowling Green Massacre.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      I thought it was Booker T and Golddust, but they were a tag team.

      I saw it live on Monday Night RAW.

    • OddMan

      I’m Spartacus!

      Oh wait, wrong debate.

      • Werewolf

        I’m Brian, and so is my wife!

  • BadKitty904

    W.E.B. De Bois was 5’5″, the same height as me. As is true of most short people, neither of us had or have any general problem with Mexicans or Mexican-Americans.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Goldbell Shower took Newman’s law of “You must be this tall to debate” too seriously.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bfyS-S-IJs

    • Bub the very stable zombie

      5’5″? Why you’re just a l’il kitten!

      • BadKitty904

        HEY!!! Quality, not quantity, OK?

        • Bub the very stable zombie
          • Lord Jim

            Dawwwww…

          • BadKitty904

            *purrs*

        • Lord Jim

          Don’t sweat it. The world’s built for folks of your stature. I’m abt 6’1″ and I can hardly drive anything but a full-size truck or SUV.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Really? Mr. MinS is 6’3″ and he’s comfortable driving our Prius. Me? 5’2″, so the seat gets moved back and forth and back and forth…

          • Celtic_Gnome

            I’m 5’2″ and always genuinely surprised every time I hit my head on something.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            So am I. My best friend is 5′ even and her younger sisters are 4′ 10. We were hanging curtains in her new apartment when one of them said to me “Oh tallest person in the room, can you reach that?” Naturally I looked around and they were talking to me. That was a first and only time for me.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            The drier died once in the middle of laundry, and I had to shlep the wet clothes down to a nearby laundromat to dry them. The place was pretty full when I walked in, both singles and families doing their laundry, all Latino. I was the tallest person in the room. First and only time for me as well.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            To hear that phrase verbalized was surreal.
            Wow, you had an assortment of people and that happened. Yours is even more unlikely to happen, odds wise. I’m glad someone else can relate.

    • Me not sure

      Heightist!

    • As an American of the opposite height, I can say I’ve had no problems with the people we took the area land I live in from either. Lovely people.

  • Querolous
    • doktorzoom

      Heh, didn’t even know they were going on. But I did remember, at 9:20 PM Friday, that I’d bought tickets for Mike Birbiglia’s 9:30 show downtown. Happily, there was a opening act, so I only missed 20 minutes of that.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    So this “Goldbell” fella seems like the poster boy for the Republican mantra, “Blame the other guy for your problems.” Good to know that bullshit still works.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    One very limited but perhaps insightful contrast between the immigrant and African American experiences is that freed slaves had some advantages over many immigrants. They already spoke English and many had valuable job skills because so much skilled labor was performed by slaves before the Civil War.

    But unlike European immigrants, they were never allowed to assimilate. Even originally despised minorities like the Irish and Germans eventually became part of the system, but incredible obstacles and extreme violence were used to resist African American assimilation.

    Obviously, the African American experience is more complex and tragic than just than one point of comparison. But it is one part of the story.

    • Bub the very stable zombie

      This. One of the most disgusting things about institutional racism in the U.S. is how quickly members of previously despised minorities forget their family history and become enthusiastic backers of the racist system once THEY are no longer oppressed themselves. Looking at you Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Scott Baio, Antonio Sabato Jr…

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        My father’s Irish side of the family, who considered my mother and me “colored” because brown hair and brown eyes. Irish weren’t considered “white” at one point either, morans. And depending on which side of the Troubles you were on, you were No True Irishman either.

        • The Only Cosmic Owl

          Heck, Italians weren’t either, and everyone hated the Jews.

          • Marion in Savannah

            “And everybody hates the Jews:”

            https://youtu.be/aIlJ8ZCs4jY

          • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

            True Conservatives still do, and aren’t terribly shy about it when cheering for Israel to shoot Palestinians and start Armaggedon

          • Bub the very stable zombie

            I used to shake my head when Bernard Goldberg would go on “The O’Reilly Factor,” and the two smug assholes would take turns pooh pooing the very IDEA that blacks still faced pervasive systemic discrimination, then figuratively pat them on their nappy heads and advise them to just “get over it.” Infuriating.

          • SDGeoff3

            Consider the source. And you hit it on the head: two smug assholes.

          • I am old enough to remember when a white girl would get in serious trouble for dating an Italian boy.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          They spoke a strange language and refused to learn English, were sexually promiscuous, bred like rabbits, were dirty and were spreading diseases, didn’t care about educating or caring for their children, ran around in dangerous criminal gangs, and were good for performing only the most dirty and menial jobs.
          And they were going to refuse to assimilate and corrupt our culture with their own. Sound familiar?

          • Lady who lunches

            And ate weird food that smelled funny, at least until it became an “American Classic”.

      • Lord Jim

        Hey, when you throw your lot in with system, you gotta defend it cuz that’s the side your bread’s buttered on, eh?

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        They don’t forget – they claim that they overcame it with sheer willpower, hard work, clean-living, and bootstraps and whinge about why other groups can’t be more like them.

        • theCryptofishist

          I can’t help but imagine O’Reilly going rabid over past “No Irish Need Apply” signs.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        Try to find a used copy of “When the Irish Became White.” A good discussion on immigration and assimilation.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        You’d think they would go “I had this shit done to me and it sucked, I’m not going to buy into that.” But it’s like the next group in has to pay for what the previous one suffered.

    • doktorzoom

      And one that both Du Bois and Washington were keenly aware of — and it was one of the dynamics their “anti-immigrant” arguments focused on.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Carried over from previous post: CNN poll: Generic Dem over Generic R in November lead has narrowed to +5 but Dem enthusiasm for November is +15. Do with that what you will.

    • La forza del resistino

      Just come up with candidates that disavow legitimate rape and not a pedo and don’t brag about their Joooo lawyer.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    No Eye-talians either!

  • theCryptofishist

    Assuming Goldbug is white (I hope that’s not too much of a stretch) I’m going to say what I always say when white people start talking about the black family. No, we don’t get to comment about black families from up on high, because white people did horrible things to black families during slavery. And some pretty crappy stuff since.
    Sorry, broken record and all.

  • BadKitty904

    …privileged white liberal ignorance

    “Privileged”??? Hey, I work for a living, unlike many conservatives.

  • Shrieking Harpy

    Someone has probably already posted this, but it’s worth repeating. “The cost of liberty is less than the price of repression.” –W.E.B. Du Bois.

    • Covfefe

      The price of repression can be spread over society as a whole. For the investor, the price of repression is quite reasonable, while the cost of Liberty, sooner or later, is going to paid by the employer, when the liberated workers demand higher pay and benefits, and that is only going to hurt the consumer.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Gold Bug (aka:Cliven Bundy) has really stepped up his game, huh?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Despite appearances, W.E.B. Du Bois cannot be held responsible for the hipster mustache, no matter what Booker T. Washington says.

    • Raan

      His mustache was a product of its time.

  • La forza del resistino

    Weak sauce. What’s a conversation on race w/o blaming Robert Byrd as a klansman.

    • BadKitty904

      Not to mention working in, some-random-how, Michelle’s rabid “Kill Whitey” speech….

      • Lord Jim

        What? No mention of Rev. Jeremiah Johnson’s “God Damn America”? Pfft.

      • La forza del resistino

        some in my family suggest her ‘We go High’ as a subliminal drug abuse stmt. Seriously.

        • Lord Jim

          Lolwut? 😂

          • La forza del resistino

            We only get to We go High after confirming Michelle is ]
            1. not a man
            2. not a Zulu murderer.

        • BadKitty904
        • The Only Cosmic Owl

          FFS.

          The right wing is giving Michelle Obama the old patented ‘Hillary Was FLOTUS so we collectively freaked the fuck out over it for decades’ treatment.

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          They’re not entirely wrong. It really is the path to whirled peas.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48ebd701d32c363ee2b04189f17c98afaac26058a1f0fdffa8040a6b61b0a28b.jpg

          (Donald)
          I was gonna trigger a nuke, but then I got high,
          I was gonna retweet David Duke, but then I got high,
          I got the munchies until I puked, and I know why!
          Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high…!

          (Justin)
          Ah, fuddle-duddle, la-la-la…

          (Kim)
          I was gonna blow up Seoul, but then I got high,
          I was gonna put Vancouver in a hole, but then I got high,
          Not gonna listen to that American troll, and I know why!
          Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high…!

          (Donald and Kim)
          When we wanna go low,
          You’re not gonna die,
          Because we got high!

          (All three)
          Ah, fuddle-duddle, la-la-la!

          • Mentally Stable Ron

            :lt;very sincere golf clap>
            Beautiful.

    • Fartknocker

      For a hearty racist stew you always, always add some George Wallace and a touch of Rick Perry’s N_____head Ranch.

      • La forza del resistino

        nailed it. until 1989 Perry was a Democrat too.

  • Lord Jim

    Calling liberals “privileged” and saying they are the real racists…

    Eh? What’s that you say, Villago Delando Est?

    IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION WITH THESE PEOPLE. ALWAYS.

    • BadKitty904

      Speaking of projection, white conservatives certainly aren’t handling being a minority very well. It’s almost as if they’re afraid of being…you know…persecuted.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Projection – it ain’t just for movie theaters.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    It’s nice that there’s an honest, caring (presumably) white wingnut available to explain to black folks which political party cares more about their best interests. They clearly don’t know.

    • BadKitty904

      And I’m certain every black voter that the Republican Party hasn’t disenfranchised or suppressed will gratefully follow Cowbell’s “advice” to the very letter.

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        If you can’t convince ’em, block ’em

        • BadKitty904

          I.e., “FUCK democracy. OBEY.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Nothing says “I care about the black folks” like smearing the first black president as a Kenyan, socialist, Muslim, ne’er do well, who was leading from behind, while simultaneously plotting to overthrow the government from within, who was a tyrant, but a lazy, shiftless, mom jeans wearing tyrant, because all he ever did was play golf and go on vacations, unlike our current hardworking AMERICAN president.

    • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

      And, if those pesky back folks disagree, a presidential candidate will helpfully imply they are stupid.

  • BadKitty904

    I wonder if Cowbell has enough actual schooling to be familiar with the academic rule called “citing sources”?

    • goCatgo

      I asked him to cite sources. He never did.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Bwaahahahahaha silly. All the sources are either Breitbart or DerpBell’s butt.

    • Shrieking Harpy

      Citations are part of the liberal conspiracy. I read that in the Protocols of the Elders of the Chicago Manual of Style.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Manuel O Style? See? Always dragging Messicans into it. Or, if it’s O’Style, you’ve got a mixed marriage.

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          What about the Saudi Turabians?

    • Daniel

      I asked him to provide the statistics he claimed proved his point.

      He didn’t.

      • BadKitty904

        That would prolly be because he didn’t have any.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      He don’t need no stinkin’ sources.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    You know who I blame? The Jews. Why? Because that’s classic, and a proven strategy to scare rubes, that’s why.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Rube Goldberg?

  • Rick Hill

    ” I never once saw any racism in my entire life until that damn ngger got into the WH.”
    -Whitey McVanillaface

    • Lord Jim

      We’d be living in postracial paradise if a Kenyan blah feller hadn’t run fer office. THANKS, OBAMA!

    • Raan

      “Whitey McVanillaface” is my new user name in Clash of Clans. /s

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        Clash of Clams? I bet that game is full of monsters!

    • I just googled “obama is a muslim” and got 366,000 hits. And that’s just that string, no variations or fancy search techniques.

  • doktorzoom

    Lest we forget: W.E.B. Du Bois never recorded a single hit with the MGs.

    • Trumpsters_are_fools

      DARN those liberals for preventing that!

    • Resistor Radio

      Dammit, I should have scrolled down before posting Green Onions. Here I thought Inwas clever, for a moment. Oh well, GMTA.

      • doktorzoom

        Green Card Onions

      • Claire

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    • armed_bears

      Didn’t he do “Bring de funk, bring de bois”?

      • doktorzoom

        Or as Paul Reiser put it, very whitely, in Mad About You, “Couldn’t we just say there’ll be funk, and there’ll be noise, and at some point, they’ll be brought in?”

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      I though he played base on Thin Lizzie’s “De Bois are back in town.”

      • Andy_Kreiss

        No, but he’s presently being co-opted by DeBois in De Hoods.

  • The Only Cosmic Owl

    Right wingers constantly defend their own racism by accusing those discriminated against as the REAL racists.

    Hey, look over there!

    • Raan

      It’s projection all the way down.

  • this sounds almost exactly like a guy I had the dubious pleasure to run into on twitter a few years ago.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Web Dubious? Is he any relation to Milo Yabbadabbadoopolis?

      • was he a minor character in the Flintstones?

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          He was the one who used to invite fascist party crashers to Fred and Barney’s union-organizing meetings at the Water Buffalo Lodge.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    Every time I see this particular line of agitprop these days, about the “black family” (which I guess is different from just a “family”?) having been “destroyed” by the Democrat Party Plantation and welfare and blatta blatta blah blah blah, I feel constrained to remind everybody that studies show that in America, black fathers are considerably more involved with their children as positive influences, role models, and caregivers, than are white fathers.

    I also feel constrained to note that, moreover, with births outside wedlock becoming the norm in much of the so-called “civilized” world, the biggest predictor of pathologies among children and families (from crime to poverty to illiteracy to hunger) is being born in the United States, rather than in some nice socialist country like Norway, where cradle-to-grave social welfare benefits and a proactive approach to the safety net ensure better outcomes.

    • Jennifer R

      Birth out of wedlock was always the norm.
      Why do you think “common law marriage” exists in the western world?
      So all the poor peasants toiling out in the field can live out of sin without having to find the money for a wedding.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Hillary wrote a book about Trump’s upbringing.

      It was called It Takes a Village to Raise an Idiot.

      We should have listened. But, she was a nerd who used email.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        If she hadn’t had the book printed in that Benghazi publishing house more people would have read it. So it’s Hillary’s fault.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Bullshit! W.E.B. Du Bois always said he relied on the kindness of strangers!

    • BadKitty904

      He did it under his drag name, “Blanche”.

      • Shrieking Harpy

        “Stellaaaaaah!”

      • Me not sure

        Doesn’t Blanche mean “white?”

        • BadKitty904

          Funny how that works…

        • Raan

          It also means to partially boil a vegetable before further cooking.

          • Daniel

            And “du Bois” is a variety of potato. The whole play was Williams’ subtle critique of potato farming methods and cultivars.

    • therblig

      goldBELLA!!!!!!!

    • Bill D. Burger

      He didn’t want to work…wanted free stuff. That was his desire. He tagged that on the side of a steeetcar.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Rosa Parks only took that front bus seat to protest all the Messicans taking them.
    GoldBug History 101. Trump Univ

  • WilbyToad

    Voucher Schools Are Teaching Kids What Can Only Be Described as Right-Wing Propaganda
    Betsy DeVos is a relentless proponent of private religious schools. Here’s what they actually teach.

    Rebecca Klein shone a light on three popular textbooks used by private religious schools. While she found materials touting creationism over evolution, or teaching that homosexuality is a sin, Klein also encountered right-wing propaganda embedded throughout these K-12 curricula.

    by Jennifer Berkshire / AlterNet
    https://www.alternet.org/voucher-schools-are-teaching-kids-right-wing-propaganda

    There’s an audio of the entire interview at the link. This edited version is enough to set your hair on fire.

    • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

      I remember reading Feynman’s book and him talking about the crazy shit they tried to sneak into textbooks in the 60’s.

      http://www.textbookleague.org/103feyn.htm

    • BadKitty904

      Did anyone expect anything else? The Right is very plainly and deliberately using said “schools” as indoctrination camps.

  • The Only Cosmic Owl

    The GOP is the isolationist party, ready to flip the fuck out over immigration at the drop of a sombrero.

  • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

    Everyone knows the debate ended when Booker T did the spinaroonie. Now can you gif it sucka!!

    https://media.giphy.com/media/eYefTcfZCrtZu/200.gif

  • therblig

    should we really be seriously considering the state of race relations as seen by a pokemon?

    • Jennifer R

      Pokemon seem to have a fairly harmonious existence until white folks came along and made them fight to near death.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Oh, want a tangled W.E.B. we weave
    When for the 500th time we practice to be a racist prick

    • Raan

      The rhyme is off, but the sentiment is there.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Sometimes breaking expectations is intended as part of the joke…

      • kareemachan

        I read that as ‘The rhyme is off, but the sediment is there.’

        It was a long night last night – high winds, power outages, and both cats threw up. On the bed.

        • Lord Jim

          Ugh.

        • Mentally Stable Ron

          You could hardly expect them to throw up on the floor like… like a couple of ANIMALS!

        • Raan

          “Sediment” works too. Racists usually are pretty salty about not having accomplished as much as “the other”.

        • Shrieking Harpy

          As cats do. (My duvet cover is in the washing machine as I type this.)

        • Celtic_Gnome

          That’s why you should have a dog. They cower under the bed during violent storms, not throw up on it.

    • Courser_Resistance

      They just keep on digging…

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Say, you know who else was hurt by Over Immigration?

    • Latverian Diplomat

      The Underground?

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      The Trojans?

      • Daniel

        Though obviously the problem was exacerbated by their low birth rate.

        • Lord Jim

          And their abandonment of self-reliance to take foreign welfare.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          *LOLsnort*

    • Raan

      Australian sugar cane?

  • Cousin Itt, hoi polloi

    The Crisco Cops were no friends of mine. They grease the pole, fans drink the wine.

    https://twitter.com/Fox9Sports/status/955069655479128064

    • Bad Tom

      That just makes it a challenge!

      • Cousin Itt, hoi polloi

        Film @ 11.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Inauthentic. They should be using Cheez Whiz!

    • BadKitty904

      Sportsball fans. They’re just…

      • Mentally Stable Ron

        Completely.

      • nightmoth

        Yes, they are, aren’t they?

        • BadKitty904

          Definitely.

    • Raan

      God, you can almost hear the music looking at his expression.

      https://youtu.be/4fWyzwo1xg0

    • Courser_Resistance

      Uh, I guess it’s a cost-effective solution. Buy a pallet of Crisco.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance
    • data_ninja

      Finally, Fox is talking about rigged poles!

  • Resistor Radio

    My favorite Booker T song is Green Onions.

    https://youtu.be/ar-Z_l907DY

  • AnniNoone

    Y’all keep calling this asshole “Goldbug” (instead of “Goldbell”) and I must protest. Goldbug was a cute little addition to many Richard Scarry children’s books. Goldbell is a bloviating windbag who is trying to Trump-truth history. Goldbug libel!

    • Duke

      Absolutely! Leave Goldbug out of this!

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      If there’s anything worse than a RWNJ, it’s a pompous, condescending faux intellectual one.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Any friend of Lowly Worm is a friend of mine.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I have a friend who named her cane Lowly because it looks just like Lowly Worm. He even has a red sneaker.

    • kareemachan

      Alternatively, The Gold-bug is a story by Poe that for some reason, our kid LOVED to have read to her. I mean, it’s a good story, but as a bedtime story time and time again?! It’s a tad…. pedantic, IMO.

    • Me not sure

      That would be demeaning to one of America’s earliest sports cars, the Kissell Gold Bug Speedster. The extra seat was for people you don’t like. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/621442d56e4fc0ba7bf4ebc6eca89468fd4f547db1ec034a75d34930ea00b766.jpg

      • Phried Ω

        “Shotgun!”, no wait, I mean….

        • Me not sure

          You literally had to hold a shotgun on someone to get them to sit there.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I’m guessing that extra seat didn’t have a seat belt, right? Of course not, this car was made in the 1920’s. Really, now, who would willingly sit in that extra seat? It looks like the place a bootlegger would put a customer who hadn’t paid him.

        • Me not sure

          Death by roadside mail box.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Wow, good point. I was thinking of death by potholes myself.

      • Querolous

        Without people in the picture to give it scale it is difficult to realize just how huge the car was. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbb07d4eda0e6adedbab2faa3b9d5422cd1dbeae27ebbbc7e84b9fbd971a220f.jpg

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler
    • How about Dumbell? For that works for me

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Did Booker T ever debate Goldberg at Wrestlemania?

      • Raan

        I don’t know, but Ahmed Johnson had a homophobia angle with Goldust.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      Goldbell, Goldbug, Goldfinger.. who cares. Personally, I look forward to the movie “Brownfinger” where a fucking moron usurps a position of world leadership but everything he touches turns to shit requiring an English spy to team up with an American lawyer to bring him down.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I think this would require a TV mini-series. A 2-hour movie wouldn’t do the story justice.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Makes sense. To figure out what’s up with the field workers, you gotta go far afield.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Donald Trump is familiar with feeled workers.

  • BadKitty904

    Cowbell failed to work the Second Amendment or Hilzbama into his/her screed. Sad.

    • The Wanderer

      Weak. Low energy.

  • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

    Booker T could kick out the jams during the debates.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Pedantic and incorrect arguments, coupled with a misspelling of the name of one of your principal sources for your made-up history – why, Goldbell, it’s almost as if you’re not even trying. You are, in fact, the opitome of a dumb ass.

    • doktorzoom

      Beg pardon, that’s “opitomy.” Get your misspellings right!

      • I thought we were an autonomous collective?

        • Resistor Radio

          I heard ricktatorship

          • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

            I heard Ponyville annexed us.

          • Resistor Radio

            As long as it wasn’t the godless coastal elites of Manehattan.

          • The Wanderer

            Could be worse – could be Stalliongrad.

          • Resistor Radio

            Yes, I heard that Stalliongrad was funding troll farms in Maregascar. Scary stuff.

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            I welcome our pony overlords.

          • The Wanderer

            Where are they coming from? Bitaly, Marelaysia, or Germaney?

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            Worse, they’re Caneighdians!

          • Resistor Radio

            Will the unicorns be kind to us?

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            Yes, but membership in the Girl Scouts will be mandatory.

          • Resistor Radio

            Well that’s cool. The cookies are mostly awesome.

          • Kiri the Unicorn
          • Resistor Radio

            Never gonna give you up, boo ;)

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          No, the People’s Front of Judea!

      • Resistor Radio

        Y’all ain’t the fastest knife in the shed, are ya?

        • doktorzoom

          My oars go all the way to the top.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        It’s gotten so I can’t read the proper spelling without thinking “that looks wrong.” Now you’re telling me I’m getting the wrong spelling wrong? This feels like some kind of event horizon.

        • Courser_Resistance

          Yeah, it’s a freaky place. I’ve been there.

        • goCatgo

          Or a triple negative ?

      • Lord Jim

        “Epitomie”! What is WRONG with you ignorant louts?!

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          Opitame, Egalitie, From Here to Freeternitie?

        • Resistor Radio

          I thought it was Uppity Me

      • this country is in the midst of an opitomy crisis and you are making fun of it?

      • doktorzoom
        • Resistor Radio

          Just a blank page when I click.

          • doktorzoom
          • Resistor Radio

            Hey, where’s those opitomy coffee mugs you mentioned? I want one!

          • doktorzoom

            Another great idea we never followed through on

            sadface

            :(

          • Resistor Radio

            Jeez, does anybody even work around here?
            :D

          • doktorzoom

            Not if we can help it.

          • Resistor Radio

            You must have a very amazing and understanding bosslady!

          • kareemachan

            Well, we’re waiting…..

            PS – my friend LOVED her ‘Enemy of the People’ mug I gave her for Xmas.

      • John Orendorff

        “I cried because I had no feet until I met a man who had no cock.”

      • Doug Langley

        Oh, right. That’s the brain operation, right?

      • Phried Ω
        • Resistor Radio

          Fiona!

        • doktorzoom

          Babby Fiona! I hear she’s hungry.

    • BadKitty904

      I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who was a total dumbass.

  • msanthropesmr

    Everybody knows that Booker T drove an MG down Hot Pants Road.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVG9m9Qm6Pc

  • TundraGrifter

    Does “Over Immigration” including kidnapping men and women in African and bringing them here as slaves? The original “Chain Migration.”

  • La forza del resistino

    Donald brags that Black unemployment numbers at 7% are lowest ever. Three million 1860 slaves beg to differ.

    • 7% when the national average is about 4 is fucking reprehensible.

      • La forza del resistino

        OK. I pulled 7 outta my azz. the distinction is in 1860 there was 100% employment.

    • BadKitty904

      Donnie freed them, you know. Not many people are aware of that.

      • La forza del resistino

        Ben Carson is living, walking proof. Omarosa, not so much.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      This as at a time after he claimed the “real” unemployment rate was 20% while he was running for office. No explanation of how the “real” unemployment rate changed. The fake one just went down a little.

      • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

        It went from 50% on November 8th to about 5% on November 9th of 2016 and dropped because he was elected.

  • msanthropesmr

    OT

    I have finally finished that fucking document.

    Shower, pants and grocery shopping.

    • Dang, that is my plan also! Are you me? *squint* I do not remember dredging the dregs of grant proposals out of hell this morning but I might have

    • Lord Jim

      Congratulations!

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Why not, Pants, grocery shopping, shower?

      • msanthropesmr

        It’s been a while on the shower front…

        • goCatgo

          That’s prolly ok. It is winter in the Northern Hemisphere.

          • msanthropesmr

            Too late. I am clean and shaved now.

          • Here In Washington State, I have worked in the garden for a couple of hours each of the last three days. 45-50°F. But I can’t completely enjoy it because the warmer temps come with baggage.

            If there is history in the future, they will describe Trump’s assault on dealing with global warming as the worst of his crimes.

  • I wonder if Goldilocks there is aware that DuBois was totally a pinko commie.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Ayn Rand was a godless heathen – pass it on!

      • Phried Ω

        and Jewish and an immigrant and a woman and a Hollywood writer.

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          And she totally cucked St. William F. Bucktooth by taking over the GOP.

          • Phried Ω

            “I’ll sock you.”

      • The Wanderer

        And accepted government handouts in the name of her late hubby.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      You mean that when he received the Lenin Prize it wasn’t for his support of The Beatles’ coming to the US to appear on the Ed Sullivan show?

      • and when he joined the Communist Party, he thought he subscribed to the New York Times.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • TundraGrifter

      Trump Water – shutdown.
      Trump first two marriages – shutdown.
      Donald J. Trump (NY) State Park – should be shut down. Although it never really existed.

      And I believe it’s Trump Casinos – plural.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Yes, but what you must always remember is that Eric T-rump is a idiot. So there’s that.

      • theCryptofishist

        But he’s the smart one!

    • TJ Barke

      Trumpmerica- shutdown

    • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

      Fox was running a story last night saying the shutdown is proof the government is bad and they need to give that power back to the states.

      • Of course they were.
        Step one: Get in power
        Step two: Break government
        Step three: tell everyone how government is broken

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          #ThanksReagan

      • Ha ha, but they don’t mean states like California or New York

        • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

          Of course not they only mean those good red states like Kansas.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      The business model for all these ventures was to extract as much money as possible while giving little of value in return, the goal being to enrich the Trump family. Why shouldn’t the US government be run the same way?

      • Phried Ω

        At least the Reagan administration looted the treasury with some efficiency.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          They also were more successful in selling the concept that it was cool to be rich, and everyone would get rich, or at least more prosperous. Now they’re barely pretending, and the peasants are more sullen.

    • The shutdown is a good thing, but it’s the Democrats’ fault.

    • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

      I’m not an expert on business finance, but from what I understand after a certain number of bankruptcies they don’t give you a loan for more money than you already have in the bank. Where did he keep getting the money in his accounts?

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Douche Bank.

  • TundraGrifter

    “De Bois” sounds like a lesbian punk rock band.

  • Courser_Resistance

    For teh kitteh lovers: This ad perfectly encapsulates the Democratic Congressional team/caucus/whatever waiting for the Republicans to actually *do* anything other than play in the muck.

    https://youtu.be/i2iG9NQk9mI

    • Shrieking Harpy

      That bird looks like an illeagle to me.

      • Doug Langley

        Clearly an advanced stage of jaundice.

        • doktorzoom

          “Corporal Simmons has jaundice. He’s the most remarkable shade of yellow”

          — Gary Burghoff as Radar O’Reilly as William Christopher as Father Mulcahey

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    I have a working prototype of my “tell me what info needs a stealin’ on a list of hundreds of machines and virtual hosts, and I’ll pilfer it and format it so it’s user friendly” script, so now I can relax until Monday mornin’.

    lol

  • TundraGrifter

    Just how to you read “sound bites?” I ask for a friend.

  • Lord Jim

    Reich wingers playing minorities off against each other. Seems familiar…

    • that’s why Herr Yam’s numbers with minorities are so stellar.

    • BadKitty904

      Trying – incredibly ineffectually – to…

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Mitch McConnell: “why won’t those Democrats that I endlessly fucked over, and even stole a SC seat from, work with me to fuck over Dreamers?” Won’t someone call the wahmbulance?

    • BadKitty904

      That’s a good question, Mitch. A REALLY good question. Be sure to contact any reality-based American when you want the actual answer.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Media: “Yeah. Why won’t the Democrats work with the Republicans instead of obviously shutting down the government? Let’s go to Jack Kingston and Rick Santorum for some analysis.”

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Joy Reid said Trump spent all day yesterday sulking and watching old clips of himself carping about Obama. She didn’t specify whether or not he was masturbating at the time, but I suspect the odds are high. Or maybe Chris Christie was there to help.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    GoldBell is a pretty good example of a person who knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing.

    • willi0000000

      . . . but he keeps pulling the prices out of his ass.

  • Michael R
  • TundraGrifter

    Calling Jorge Garcia a “career criminal” is a typical Regressive whipsaw. If he worked to support himself and his family that’s a bad thing because he was brought here to the US of A as a child. If he didn’t work then he’s just a typical lazy lay about sponger on the body politic.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Also, the fact that he “ broke the law” is simply supposed to end the discussion. Fraud, obstruction, criminal conspiracy and money laundering are all ok laws to break, but not crossing the border and living in this country as an otherwise law abiding citizen.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        Trump broke countless laws, and his grandfather got kicked out of Germany for being a career criminal of some variant. But that’s OK because not blah or brown?

      • TundraGrifter

        I agree this gentleman has been living in the US of A without proper documentation. Since he was brought to our nation as a child, below the age of legal responsibility, I don’t think he can be charged with “cross the border.” It’s a very important distinction.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          The law n order crowd would say “ too bad about his parents, but he still broke the law”. They’re very inflexible about brown peoples transgressions that way. But for what it’s worth, I agree with you

    • dshwa

      Its almost as if there’s something else they dont like about him…

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    I thought WEB De Bois was the one who said “I have always depended on the kindness of strangers”

    • willi0000000

      don’t do that, Zip . . . i blanched when i read it.

      • dshwa

        I have no desire for this conversation to continue. I Tennessee where this is headed.

        • little miss high and mighty

          On board a streetcar with a funny nane

      • Very Stable Bozi

        The noncomments are stella.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        Really? I thought it was stellar.

  • Kiri the Unicorn
  • La forza del resistino

    Goldbell. That’s a chewish name idn’t it.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁
      • La forza del resistino

        I want one of those. The one on the left, that is.

      • kareemachan

        NEWFIES!!!!!!

        If our cats wouldn’t slit our throats in our sleep, I’d adopt a newfie. I met the (then?) head of the WA Newfoundland Rescue group once and her three dogs. I’m smitten. I mean, who wouldn’t want a dog that is loving, large, and drools?

        • idiotboy

          Best dog we ever had, like a human only nicer. But they break your heart as they do not live long.

          • willi0000000

            then just do what George Carlin suggested . . . you take it down to the pet place, throw it up on the counter and say “give me another one of these, just like this one” . . . but they seldom do that, usually they give you one that’s better!

  • TundraGrifter

    Again – from Kurt Andersen’s excellent “Fantasyland.” At the time WW I started, almost one in ten Americans was either an immigrant from Germany or a descendant of an immigrant from Germany. And – let’s face it – Germany really wasn’t all that big of a nation.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Ben Franklin hated Germans because he considered them Teutonic “barbarians” who were inferior to the “civilized and proper” Englishmen.

      Brexit proved once and for all that the English and Germans still aren’t getting along. (…and why “European” citizenship is more important than ever.)

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        but Hedley Lamarr loved him some Teutonic Twats

        • eggs ackly-wright

          “Hedy Lamarr was an Austrian-born American film actress and inventor.
          At the beginning of World War II, Lamarr and composer George Antheil developed a radio guidance system for Allied torpedoes.”

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            “That’s Hedley”

      • little miss high and mighty

        Didn’t Ben market his glass harmonica invention to a number of German and Austrian composers and music hobbyists?

    • The Wanderer

      Interestingly, at the time of the outbreak in ’14, there was a lot of anti-British feeling in the USA, with some German-Americans actually going to the Imperial Embassy with an eye to joining up.

      • TundraGrifter

        And the British Monarchy was busy changing its name from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the House of Windsor (a made up name that did sound more English).

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Perhaps, but this doesn’t explain why the Tea Party assholes got mucho coverage in 2010:

    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/955079115429892096

  • Shrieking Harpy

    “Making shit up is the last refuge of a scoundrel”– Samuel L. Johnson.

    • Bill D. Burger

      It’s also the only way that FOX can exist.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    I am going to make the bold prediction that GoldBug isnt black but is white as tumblr of Ranch dressing recipes. Call it a hunch because that form of blacksplaning is only done by white people pretending to be black.

    • this ^^^

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Yup, ‘ol Tinkerbell did a standup job of whitesplaining to blah people why they’re so dumb that they didn’t notice the evil libtards putting them on the Dem plantation because they were too busy being racist to white people

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      And the Goebel homophone of his handle

  • Ever since 9/11, parallel universe MLK has hated Mexicans.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      He had a goatee too, didn’t he.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Don’t forget parallel universe Jesus was only talking about forgiving Christians.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        And only the Right kind of Christians, also.

  • nightmoth

    “problems with immigration — though not necessarily for the reasons your average rightwinger today would argue”
    Yes, my poor little white trash cousin, RIP, used to argue that coloreds were jealous of Messicans because there weren’t enough welfare checks to go around. Never mind that she smoked and ate herself into health problems that got her a disability check which supported her AND her two children AND her 3 out-of-wedlock grandchildren. Gone, but not forgotten.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • nightmoth

      Not nearly as traumatized as the female sturgeons, I’ll warrant.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Like a sturgeon, stunned for the very first time…

        • Resistor Radio

          Nailed it

        • eggs ackly-wright

          It’s a hard roe to hoe.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      #firstworlwhiterichpeopleproblems

      • h4rr4r

        Caviar is not that expensive. Wegmans carries it.

        It like lobster and champagne are highly over rated.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          There is caviar, and then there is caviar. Iranian Beluga caviar sells for $35,000 a kilo, and some rich people I used to know told me it tastes so much better than anything that Wegman’s might sell that they could be completely different foods. I have never eaten it myself, so I have no first-hand knowledge of this.

          The same could be said for champagne. I drank a glass of Veuve Cliquot once at an upscale wedding in California … it tasted nothing like Andre’s, that’s for damn sure. It was absolutely delicious.

          • Phried Ω

            Somewhat embargoed too if you are talking Caspian and Black Seas.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Filthy rich people can get anything they want, embargo or no embargo. In Saudi Arabia alcohol is illegal, but all the rich Saudis buy buckets of it on the black market. When relatives of mine lived there in the 70’s and 80’s they regularly bought a bottle of Chivas on the black market for $100 – god only knows what it costs today, but whatever it costs, it is peanuts to a rich Saudi prince.

          • h4rr4r

            Is it that expensive because of embargoes or what?

            I have had Dom and that was no good either. Never had anything fancier. Also could have been lied to, it was by the glass.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            It is expensive because it comes from a rare albino fish. It is entirely possible that filthy rich people think it tastes better just because it is rare and expensive, as the human mind is capable of great self-deception.

            Yes, you could have been lied to about the Dom. I have a relative who is a real wine snob, and once when they visited my parents, my dad and I pulled a trick on him by buying a moderately-priced bottle of good California white wine, and a bottle of expensive French white wine, and swapping the contents. The snob fell for it.

    • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

      They had to use plastic spoons for caviar?

      https://img.memecdn.com/the-hue-manatee_o_864836.jpg

      • Mystery_Poster

        That’s hilarious.

    • Doug Langley

      Maybe it’s just me, but I would have been a tad more concerned about salmonella.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        At Mar-a-lago, yeah. Like that place could pass a health inspection.

    • traumatized is clearly the appropriate term here.

    • h4rr4r

      For $100k I would be pissed too. If I pay $20 for dinner I better get non-plastic flatware.

    • Just wait until they find out that those ‘eggs’ were really tiny detergent pods. Only the best from our bestest grifter.

    • The Wanderer

      Poor widdle snowfwakes.

    • Raan
    • AmusedAmused

      What kind if freakin philistine serves onions with caviar???

      • Daniel

        I think we all know the answer to that.

      • kareemachan

        freaking stupid ones? And reading about the health violations, I wouldn’t touch that shit with two 5′ Lithuanians. And I love caviar.

    • Everrett Fanuelli
    • Anna in PDX

      That looked like a joke to me, but I find it hard to tell when ridiculously rich people are being serious.

      • Daniel

        It is a joke, but this does add to the whole pile of evidence that Trump is nowhere near as classy as he imagines.

        • Anna in PDX

          That pile is already taller than Everest. He is the opposite of classy.

    • SayItWithWookies

      “I was so upset even the gold leaf on my cheeseburger couldn’t console me.”

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Jeeze Louise, that is definitely tacky. I bet they blame it on the 70 “foreign workers” that Trump got visas for last year. Has anyone checked the toilet paper in the Mar-A-Lago restrooms? I bet it’s that cheap single-ply stuff.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I don’t like eating at Mar-a-lago. Everything tastes like spit.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Ewwww. You are probably right.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Conservatives talking about civil rights always brings me back to this, for some reason. “In general things don’t end well when a sentence starts, ‘Let me tell you something I know about the Negro.'”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG1HVudt9Wg

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Where’s the petulance? Where’s the sense of grievance? Where’s the bullying? He’s so unpresidential.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        INORITE! He’s such a smug elitist. If he was a real ‘Murican he would have just farted in Cliven Bundy’s face and taken what was coming to him. Pfft. Libs, you just don’t get it. This is why Trump won. MAGA!

      • SayItWithWookies

        Rush and other conservatives would try to characterize him as “seething with rage” from time to time. But that was usually when they were pointing out the inherent anti-white racism in something like raising the minimum wage.

    • little miss high and mighty

      we weren’t done really neeeeding that guy!
      sobs

  • Angela Ruzzo

    I present the story of the Lead Belt Mining Riots of 1917, AKA “The Hunky Riots.” Miners in the Lead Belt area of southeastern Missouri were nervous about losing their jobs to recent immigrants from Italy, Poland, Russia and Hungary, all generally referred to locally as “Hunkies.” The number of immigrants imported by the mining companies had accelerated when lead prices spiked in preparation for the US entering WWI. About 1000 lead miners rounded up immigrant families and beat them, ransacked their homes and stole their livestock, then marched them to the train station and loaded them at gunpoint onto trains headed for St. Louis. Not a word of this is taught in Missouri schools. I only know about it because my grandpa was a lead miner in 1917. Grandpa never admitted to participating in this riot, but he referred to every “furriner” as a Hunky until the day he died. Grandpa nearly had a fit when his son married an Italian American woman, and he always referred to us kids as “Those Eye-Tie Mutts” (but never to our faces).

    The reason why I mention this is that at no time were African Americans recruited for jobs in the lead mines. Why? Because the counties in Missouri where the lead mines were located did not allow black people to live there. In fact, it was illegal for a black person to spend the night in most rural counties in southeastern Missouri at the time. It was Jim Crow laws that kept African Americans out of these jobs, not immigration.
    http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/fear-of-losing-jobs-to-immigrants-may-have-led-to/article_7bee9061-efbe-5f80-a83c-37c1802b29b9.html

    Here’s a picture of my grandpa’s crew in 1920. They’re all as white as Wonder Bread.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f28923328dd4d44b706431363ec0bbe782f7ee05bba5fd5354becb819d49f46.jpg

    • little miss high and mighty

      See out what happened in Ludlow, Colorado in 1914
      Two dozen dead mostl Italian- some burned to death in their replacement tents.
      National Guard and Industry thugs were called in to aid the strikebreakers and became murderers in the name of Standard Oil & Colo. Fuel and Iron co.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I hear you. The governor of Missouri in 1917 called out the National Guard during the Lead Belt Riots, but they did nothing to stop them, just stood by and watched immigrants being beat up. The real reason the Guard was there was to protect the mine owners and the mine property.

        • little miss high and mighty

          For Ludlow Mother Jones herself intervened with her new friend “John David Rockefeller to calm things after the funerals.
          Didn’t help much and “American whites” took some of the new jobs anyway.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Some of my family were those Hunkys. They were immigrants from Lithuania who made money doing jobs that even the American coal miners considered to be too dangerous. My great uncle (the one who was killed by a crazy ex girlfriend when he was in his 70s) made $400.00 a month blasting the coal out of the pillars of played out mines in Pennsylvania. It was a job considered so specialized and dangerous that no sane person wanted to do it.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        My Italian grandpa, and my Italian great-grandpa, both worked in the coal mines in northeastern PA in the late 1800’s/early 1900’s. Everyone in their little mining town was an immigrant. My mother said it was like living in the United Nations – she even had neighbors who were Lebanese. But there were no African Americans or Asians there … my mother never saw a black person or an Asian until the mine closed in 1930 and they moved to Brooklyn.

        I don’t think my grandpa knew that his own great-grandmother came from Hungary. She married a German man, and her daughter married a Danish man, and their daughter was my grandpa’s mother, and of course their maiden names were not used, but I discovered this by looking through the Census records. I wish Grandpa was alive so I could tell him.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          That’s not at all unusual. Until I did some DNA/genealogy I and connected with some helpful distant relatives, I had no idea my family name was German. My German great grandfather married the daughter of Irish immigrants; they had several children, then he died at a fairly young age in 1918, possibly of influenza. She immediately remarried and the stepfather adopted the children. Some changed their name, some didn’t.
          It wasn’t exactly a time to celebrate your German heritage. I’m not sure my father even knew he was of German ancestry; it might’ve been kept from him. I suspect there are a lot of stories like that.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I very much enjoyed a 1996 British movie called “Secrets and Lies” in which a young black women in London knows she was adopted, but she doesn’t try to find her birth record until after both adoptive parents are dead, at which point she discovers, to her great surprise, that her mother was white. It was a very compelling movie with superb performances by an excellent cast.
            https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/secrets_and_lies/

          • JerryRich

            Stupendous movie. I found it amusing that writer-director Mike Leigh made sure the dialog was understandable to American audiences, earlier films like High Hopes (1988) were completely indecipherable.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Even so, a couple of my American friends couldn’t get all the dialogue in “Secrets”. I don’t know why some people have an “ear” for accents and languages, and others seem to have no gift for either. I suspect a lack of early childhood exposure to other dialects and languages might have something to do with it. Also, most of these people have no ear for music, and I think that might be related.

            I enjoy the British series “Vera” (Brenda Blethyn again!) and occasionally the Northumberland accent is too broad for me. But that’s what subtitles are for.

          • JerryRich

            My first job was as a telephone operator in San Francisco (1973). One learns to understand accents quickly, especially from emergency calls (this was even before 911).

  • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

    This shutdown is going to last a long time, the White House spokes critter accidentally explained why.

    http://time.com/5111513/shutdown-day-two-congress/

    “The White House position remains the same: we will not negotiate the status of 690,000 unlawful immigrants while hundreds of millions of tax-paying Americans … are held hostage by Senate Democrats,” White House legislative director Marc Short told reporters on Saturday. “We hope Senate Democrats will yield.”

    But the rhetoric didn’t invite compromise. “It’s like a two-year-old’s temper tantrum,” Short said.

    Trump is having a temper tantrum and wont compromise.

    • Mystery_Poster

      Unless Twit-hole gets them to go nuclear.

      • The Wanderer

        He already suggested changing the rules to get around the Dems, and some Senators told him to pound sand.

        • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

          He wants to change it to only need 51 votes, but they didnt even have 50 republicans voting for the bill.

          • The Wanderer

            That too.

    • kareemachan

      He’s *always* having a temper tantrum. It’s the dementia.

    • Gigglesnort

      Short I guess thinks the four Republican Senators who were a “no” vote are not the problem, and even if they are, he is basically admitting they won’t come around. Rand Paul just for one is a nutter and playing along is not something he does.

  • Zyxomma

    I’ll have to read all your non-comments later, Wonketteers. I’m going to the inauguration of my new member of City Council, Carlina Rivera.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Hope it’s the biggest inaugural ever.

  • WilbyToad

    MSNBC conservative flays ‘spineless’ Paul Ryan: ‘He couldn’t stand against racism if his life depended on it’

    AM Joy regular Jennifer Rubin had very little good to say about Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) on Sunday morning after viewing a clip of the House Speaker brushing off concerns over an ad run by the Trump campaign saying Democrats will be “complicit” in murders if they refuse to fund President Donald Trump’s border wall.

    Following the clip of Ryan and White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short appearing to dismiss the ad, the Washington Post columnist lit into both men.

    “Well, first of all, Paul Ryan continues his unblemished record as a spineless moral midget,” Rubin asserted. “The man could not take a stand against racism if his life depended upon it. He is all in with this president and it’s a good reason why I think the Republican Party is, frankly, going into oblivion. It wouldn’t have killed him to denounce that ad and then go on with his talking points.”

    Rubin wasn’t done.

    “As far as Mark Short goes, my gosh, what a pathetic answer,” she continued, alluding to Short’s disavowal of the ad. “‘The president is an outside group.’ In some sense that’s true because he is in his own world, but that’s beside the point. I think the Republicans are desperate to pump up their base. What is the Republican Party all about these days? It’s race. That’s what they talk about and it’s not that hard to figure out.”

    “We all know what the solution is,” she suggested. “If you put up the Lindsey Graham/Dick Durbin compromise measure it would pass overwhelmingly. Ryan will put it on the floor, but Mitch McConnell won’t put it on the floor, so who really is keeping the government closed?”

    by TOM BOGGIONI / RAWSTORY
    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/msnbc-conservative-flays-spineless-paul-ryan-he-couldnt-stand-against-racism-if-his-life-depended-on-it/

    Trump thinks the dire effects of an ongoing shutdown will deflect attention from Mueller. He’s all in to create havoc, just like Putin wanted.

    • dshwa

      Spineless moral midgets is my new Ska punk band name.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      “If you put up the Lindsey Graham/Dick Durbin compromise measure it would pass overwhelmingly. Ryan will put it on the floor, but Mitch McConnell won’t put it on the floor, so who really is keeping the government closed?”

      Obama, doing Hillary’s bidding. Errybody knows that.

    • Bub the very stable zombie

      I saw a story recently that suggested climate change and overfishing might lead to the oceans being taken over by jellyfish. Well, why not? They’ve already taken over the GOP.

      • Twice *that I know of* nuclear plants using ocean water to cool off have had to shutdown for a short while to clean out the jellyfish blocking their water input filters.

  • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

    dear GoldenShower,

    the phrase is “could not care less” because if we “could care less”, we obviously do care.

    saying that we prefer cheap labor of immigrants to cheap labor of African Americans tells us that you think African American labor should be cheap–not that you respect them as American citizens who should have the same access to quality public education and the ballot box as you do. that’s what DuBois and Washington were saying. but I guess you think that the ethnicity pay gap is, “like, totally cool, bro”.

    it would be awesome if you read something from African American thinkers on these subjects who are living today and how the subjects you’re speaking about translate today. oh, look, it’s a Ta-nehisi Coates article about all of these things, Katie: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/

    in conclusion: piss up a rope.

    • Mystery_Poster

      Thank you for correcting the “could care less.” I was about to comment on that, too.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • HazooToo

      They want clicks. They have gone entirely mad for clicks. Honesty in the news is for suckers, all they care about is attention, because it translates to money for them.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        Paddy Chayefsky and Don Henley were both prophets.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          Don Henley’s song “Dirty Laundry” is a prophetic take on the news. The line that runs through my head the most these days is “We can do the innuendo,
          We can dance and sing.
          When it’s said and done,
          We haven’t told you a thing.
          We all know that crap is king,
          Give us dirty laundry.”
          I think of it every time I am reminded of faux (entertainment) news
          existence.

    • Bill D. Burger

      I’m only surprised they didn’t have Maggie Habermann to blame ‘The Hillary Effect”.

      • Blanche de Shambles

        Wait until Monday. She needs some time to shake off the vodka and Xanax haze.

  • La forza del resistino

    A trait of the passive aggressive personality is stir up some shit and watch him and him fight.

  • Bub the very stable zombie
    • Paperless Tiger

      This is why the Democrats should hold out. The Republicans are frantically ramping up their propaganda and making stupid mistakes.

      • Anna in PDX

        Clearly I am not a target audience, but this just comes across as laughably petty to me. Like calling your kid’s phone and getting the VM message “ if this is Mom, he started it!”

      • Angela Ruzzo

        You are right, but the sickening thing is that millions of Trump supporters DON’T CARE about their stupid mistakes. I have known there were people like that in America for decades, but now they are throwing it in my face daily, and this is almost unbearable.

        • theCryptofishist

          Hug?

          • Angela Ruzzo

            That would be nice, thanks. Actually, that’s what yesterday’s Women’s March was … mass hugs with a bunch of rational beings.

        • Rooster Cogburn105

          These people are unreachable, and will always blame Dems and libs for everything they don’t like. Stressing about them just ruins our day. They are lost. Let’s concentrate on the teachable suburban women and “soft” Trump voters to win big in 2018 and 2020.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Perhaps you don’t have to work and live around them every day, as I do. It’s stressful to maintain a professional or friendly attitude around coworkers or neighbors who disgust you, but it is necessary if I’m going to live and work in this community.

          • Rooster Cogburn105

            Feel your pain. I work for an authoritarian outfit whose name probably sounded better in the original German, but I take comfort in the fact that I am proof that progressives can dish it out as well as take it.

    • Daniel

      They are also claiming the attack ad saying Democrats are responsible for any and all murders committed by “illegals” has nothing to do with the White House. It ends with the statement “I am Donald Trump and I approve this message”.

      Frauds they were and frauds they remain.

    • HazooToo

      The sheer pettiness is staggering. What the fuck.

    • Phried Ω

      Violation of the Hatch Act.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Please give me a summary of what it says – I can’t get audio from Discus today for some bizarre reason.

      • Anna in PDX

        Something like due to the Dems obstruction on immigration which is unrelated to the budget, we can’t come to the phone right now.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Is this the Trump White House equivalent of “The dog ate my homework”?

          • theCryptofishist

            He has no dog. Maybe he was thinking of … well, I’m sure any of you can come up with much wittier fills for that blank.

      • Anna in PDX
        • Angela Ruzzo

          Thanks!

  • Mentally Stable Ron

    Y’know what? Fukkit. I say we do a complete reset on immigration. Black people to Africa, brown people to Europe, yellow people to Asia, white people to Whitepeoplestan. Heck, send the red people back to Asia too. Tear down the cities, repopulate with smilodons and mammoths and passenger pigeons and giant sloths and dire wolves and dawn horses. Blockade the place so nobody sneaks in.
    There. Problem solved. Y’all got 48 hours.

    • dshwa

      Needs a dragon, also too. Anyone seen Lofwyr?

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Ya but, Obama’s time machine is broked, and Trudeau’s the only one who understands that science fictiony quantum rethinking of space and time stuff.

      I guess we’ll just have to nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

    • kareemachan
      • The Wanderer

        OMGSOKY000T!

      • Anna in PDX

        You get an eohippus! And you get an eohippus!

      • theCryptofishist

        As do we all.

    • goCatgo

      Ok. I would need some time to decide. I’m kinda 3 or 4 colors. Maybe AOT,K ?

      • You get to live in a dirigible, constantly circling the globe.

        • eggs ackly-wright

          ♫ Zepplin, got my chips cashed in…♫

    • doktorzoom

      Never! G1 Ponies were lame and the movie was saccharine. Don’t even get me started on G2 and G3. I remain a faithful Faustian.

      • Mentally Stable Ron

        /me looks around in confusion, trying to figure out what the hell any of this (which, BTW, he agrees with, plus G3.5 managed to be worse than the previous 3 put together) has to do with what he wrote.

        • doktorzoom

          Something about Don Horses.

          • Mentally Stable Ron

            D’oh!

  • folderol

    (t.t.t.o. I Saw Three Ships)

    I heard GoldBell on Wonkette say,
    On Wonkette say, on Wonkette say,
    I heard GoldBell on Wonkette say,
    Libs tricked the Blacks into voting.

    And did they vote against themselves?
    Against themselves, against themselves?
    And did they vote against themselves?
    I’m sure GoldBell has the story!

    Well, gosh be darned, they surely did!
    They surely did, they surely did!
    Well, gosh be darned, they surely did!
    Goldbell says they voted poorly

    And who’s to blame? We Liberals are!
    We Liberals are, we Liberals are!
    A disgraceful shame, we Liberals are!
    Blatant racists, that we are surely!

    Thanks, GoldBell, for saying that
    For saying that, for saying that
    And in reward for saying that
    You’re banhammered, and we’re not mourning!

    • kareemachan

      Kudos!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • doktorzoom

      Nicely done. Also, I love their implication that “blacks” and “liberals” are not categories that intersect on a Venn diagram.

    • The Wanderer

      (applauds)

    • mailman27

      Nice rhythmic work.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • HazooToo

      I’m at least 75% sure that any degrees he has are fake, or bought.

      • The Wanderer

        Over-inflated resume, too, also.

    • Everrett Fanuelli
    • “Whoa, brah, you saying I gotta get up before noon?”

      • Phried Ω

        You mean “executive time” doesn’t apply to appointees?

        • theCryptofishist

          Needz manny moar upfists.

    • SayItWithWookies

      He’s not gonna be into this job much either after he finds out that the ONDCP doesn’t have an evidence locker, and even if it did, he wouldn’t get the key.

    • The Wanderer

      Probably wakes and bakes a lot, which explains his absenteeism. No stamina.

      • God Emperor Emeritus

        Wake and bake libel!

    • TJ Barke

      Fucking dudebros…

  • DensityDestiny

    “History will teach us nothing”, as Sting once said (and probably some historical or literary figure before him, fuck if I care). I don’t need to understand black history etc to know what’s racist and what isn’t. I can use my brain for that or, for clarification on the tricky stuff, I can ask my black friends. I mean, this may sound outrageous, but I imagine that people of color are a better judge of what’s offensive to people of color than white people. For example, is it offensive for a white person to say the n-word when repeating song lyrics? According to 3 out of 4 surveyed p.o.c. friends, the answer is yes. See how easy that is, racist apologists?

    But if we want to go about fixing systemic racism, that’s gonna take expertise in how the systems work. Those will likely be experts who spell better than “Goldbell”.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Even believing that “race” is anything but a racist cultural construct created to justify the mistreatment and subjugation of a group of people for the benefit of another group of people is racist.

      The simple fact is that there is more genetic variation within groupings that racists call “race” than there is between those groupings.

      It’s like believing homeopathy is real medicine. It’s stupid, and that stupid has awful outcomes.

      • yyyaz

        It can’t be said often or loudly enough: homo sapiens is the only race.

        • Daniel

          Then explain the Trumps, who have never displayed sapience in their entire lives.

          • Phried Ω

            I believe the term to describe them is humanoid, not to be confused with hemorrhoid though the mistake is understandable.

          • eggs ackly-wright

            Needs moar liberal application of Preparation T.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          I have often wondered what our race would be called if it ever evolved into an improved model. Homo sapiens means “wise man”, so once we evolve and become wiser, what would we call ourselves? The Latin term for “wiser” is “prudentior” so would this new race be Homo prudentior?

          • yyyaz

            We can hope.

          • SDGeoff3

            You renember your Latin! Hooray! Fun, innit?? I lerrved Latin classes.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Alas, no, I Googled it. I remembered “wise” but had no idea how “wiser” translated. Latin isn’t as easy as Spanish, where “wise” is “sabio” and “wiser” is “more wise” or “mas sabio.”

          • SDGeoff3

            Prudens/prudentior. Wise/wiser. Only one word!

          • Angela Ruzzo

            In a truly civilized world of evolved beings, we would drop the “homo” as being sexist, and use a term like “Esse rationabile” or “rational being.”

          • Bobathonic

            I bet they’d have good hands.

            oops, intoxicated wordplay fail

      • DensityDestiny

        Fuck yeah. And it’s precisely this kind of…dare I say… *scientific fact* and *intellectualism* that the right has successfully demoted to a level somewhere between the Bible and fake news. I’m not sure what tools we have left.

      • One of the things that always makes me laugh at white supremecists is their insistence on the “purity” of the race. Any look at European history would show that if there’s a continent that’s been overrun at various times by numerous conquerors, waves of immigration, etc., it’s Europe.

        • little miss high and mighty

          Especially in the crossroads, (Volkswanderung- peoples’ wanderings) after the end of Roman domination 5th through 8th cen. Tribes hereaouts were veritable melting pots.
          (some actualy HAD pot, too)

        • Blanche de Shambles

          Just in the first Millennium:
          Goths
          Vandals
          Alans
          Huns
          Avars
          Bulgars
          Slavs
          Arabs
          Magyars

          And those are just the major groups before the Seljuks, Mongols, and Ottomans.

          • Notreelyhelping

            Were the Visigoths just Goths with glasses?

          • Blanche de Shambles

            I know you’re kidding, but they were actually the Western Gothic confederation that ended up establishing several kingdoms in southern France and Spain.

            The Ostrogoths were the Eastern Gothic confederation that emerged from the alliance of the Greutungi and Thervingi, and who eventually conquered Italy following the collapse of the Western Roman Empire.

          • Rasilom

            So lots of black eyeliner, cloths and pale white makeup on their faces with cowboy hats?

          • Blanche de Shambles

            Precisely.
            https://img.discogs.com/9elm67683N6iXuWhzE0Czck3HlQ=/600×487/smart/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/A-85994-1250516550.jpeg.jpg

          • theCryptofishist

            And the fucking Indo-Europeans, who ran over everyone but the Finns and the Basque.

          • Blanche de Shambles

            Yes, but they arrived earlier than the first millennium. Even Finno-Ugric speakers probably only arrived in Europe between 4000 and 2000BC, around the same time that Indo-Europeans were arriving in the Danube and Balkan regions.

          • theCryptofishist

            Um, I knew that, I guess I should have made reference… on the other hand, you didn’t specify BC or AD or BCE or CE.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            We’ll count the Alans as white. They at least gave us wrenches.

          • Blanche de Shambles

            They actually spoke an Iranian language. It’s interesting that we think of Germanic languages as being quintessentially European, but the Gothic peoples who spoke what would eventually become our modern Germanic languages didn’t arrive in Europe until the 4th and 5th centuries AD.

            At the same time, you had Iranian (Persian) speaking groups (Sarmatians) as far west as modern Romania, and the Alans went all the way through western Europe as part of the great Gothic/Vandal/Alan confederacy. They continued down through France and Spain, and eventually wound up with the Vandals in what is now Tunisia.

            Not bad for a culture where everyone was named “Alan.”

          • Querolous

            I once had a girl friend with the last name of “Allen”. I called her an Allen wench and that was the end of that.

        • And in the 30th-plus millennia we have the Neanderthals and Denosovans. We whites aren’t even one single species. The certainty of Mongols and Moors in my background um, pales in the face of that.

  • Magma Cardhole jesterpunk

    Yay today’s open thread is a happy nice time thread.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    OT: Even though I’m a Pats fan I kinda hope the Jags win. I think it’s rare and nice when it’s the team’s first championship and that will happen if the Jags win.

    • The Wanderer

      It’d be fun to see a Jags – Vikes fracas.

      • Resistor Radio

        I like the word fracas.

        • little miss high and mighty

          Just no Fracking. fracas is way cool

    • h4rr4r

      I just like it when cheaters lose.

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        Hey! None of that now!

        • Phried Ω

          So is his hand hurty or not?

          • SDGeoff3

            Nah. It’s a shitty tactic.

        • h4rr4r

          Of what now?

      • SDGeoff3

        Ditto.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      Nah, Brady needs a pinky ring to go along with the other hand that’s already full.

      • The Wanderer

        No, Brady needs his fucking hands snapped off at the wrists and shoved up his tight arse. “How’s that for a Tuck Rule, Tommy?”

        • doktorzoom

          That totally violates the commenting rules.

          But it’s so completely insane I’ll allow it, I guess. This time.

    • little miss high and mighty

      specially whuppin the notorious cheaters!
      Go Jagwads (or any other Pats opponent)

  • Eileen Besse

    The Library at UMass Amherst is the “W.E.B. DuBois Library.” UMass is my alma mater, and I worked at the (separate building) so-called Old Library and took courses while it was being built in the early 1980s. The DuBois Collection is self-explanatory, and I availed myself of it MANY times. This GoldBell mite and others like him have been with us since time immemorial, and they deserve their well-earned scorn. THANK YOU!

    • tek

      Hey! Another UMass alum!

      I remember dodging the bricks falling off the sides of the library.. I think it was built in the shitty-construction phase of UMass Amherst, in the 70s..

      Fun fact: for some time a few years ago, the website of the UMass Alumni Association was branded “Maroon Central” (after the school’s colors). Those of us who grew up watching Warner Brothers cartoons got a good chuckle out of that..

      • little miss high and mighty

        shoulda scrolled a bit….
        When were they able to code clear the top floors?

        • tek

          Apparently not. I just checked the floor directory, and it only goes as high as the 26th (of the 30)..

        • Eileen Besse

          Not knowing!

      • Eileen Besse

        Hey, UMie!!! Yeah, it was finishing up in 1982 and the stupid crane was on the top of it like FOREVER in the early 1980s. I started in 1971 and graduated in 1992 with a LONG STRANGE TRIP in between. Worked for the Commonwealth of Mass starting in late 60s and retired in 12/31/2003. Joined the Retired State Employees Union and the UM Alumni as life members.

    • little miss high and mighty

      Our elder here was in Amherst for a while- says that skyscraper library had to keep books and everything else off the top 4 floors for years due to a design error- the top could not support the extra weight during storms etc.
      True? or is our Elder just dissing UMass for some reason.

      • Ill-Advised

        Yeah, that’s true, so far as I know. I was there in ’80, and I remember being incredulous….like, “this is hazing, right?”

    • Ill-Advised

      Hey! Another Five Colleges alum!

      And, yeah, the library was a tragedy.

  • La forza del resistino

    Donald is no neophyte to Women’s Marches. He’s seen hundreds marching out of his bedroom shaking their heads.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      They were also holding their thumbs and index fingers about 3″ apart.

      • amrak63

        That far?

        • Bobathonic

          It’s in the non-disparagement agreement, they must at least double any nard size references.

  • Anna in PDX

    Great post. I know about the differences between Booker T Washington and WEB Du Bois mostly from the Randall poem.
    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47690/booker-t-and-web

    • Justin Thyme

      perfect. Especially,…

      “Unless you help to make the laws,
      They’ll steal your house with trumped-up clause.”

      • Anna in PDX

        From 1969. The more things change, huh?

    • H0mer0

      that’s the only juxtaposition of WEB and Booker T that I was aware of but I wasn’t a history major. Did they have an epic rap battle also?

  • amrak63
    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Hey, I made that one!

      • amrak63

        Nice one.

  • Shrieking Harpy

    “Either America will destroy ignorance or ignorance will destroy the United States” — W.E.B. Du Bois.

    • yyyaz

      “it was a warning, people, not a playbook.”
      — Du Bois, looking at the White House today

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      100 years of Ineptitude. Why do some things never change.

  • Mike Minden

    “I am an expert historian. I got my BS at 4Chan, my MS at Breitbart, and my PHD from Alex Jones!”

    No…..just no.

    • Ling Ling

      I can only imagine the review panel that BB and Alex Jones might have.

      • Blanche de Shambles

        “Did you pass your comps?”

        “I don’t know.”

    • Bub the very stable zombie

      “I studied under David Barton, Dinesh D’Souza and Bill O’Reilly!”

      • Mike Minden

        Did you get a minor in sexual harrassment? ;}

  • gallbladder

    I, for one, am eager to see HD video of the Washington/Du Bois debates.

    • Ωbjectifier

      Actually, it’s a Ted Talk.

    • thixotropic jerk

      Really the best ones are the Frederick Douglass/MLK/Crispus Attucks three way presidential debates from the 1930s. Mind. Blowing.

  • WilbyToad

    Lindsey Graham hating on Stephen Miller for being Stephen Miller.

    https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/955151630302883841

    • Anna in PDX

      Pass the popcorn

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Somebody needs to tell Trump “I won’t negotiate without Miller in the room. He seems to be the one making the final decisions”. Dude would be cleaning out his desk by Friday.

      • willi0000000

        last Friday!

    • mailman27

      Boo hoo. (Dogs, fleas, &c)

    • Shrieking Harpy

      “We Are Going Nowhere (Other than to Hell)” needs to be graffitied on the White House portico.

      • theCryptofishist

        Or at least projected onto it, until the secret service comes out and messes with them.

        • Shrieking Harpy

          Yep. It’s not like graffiti has anything worthy to say.

          • theCryptofishist

            I was purely thinking of the difficulty of getting close enough to hit the building with spray paint.

          • thixotropic jerk

            Mini Drone In The Kelly Anne Cacabot with the purple paint

          • Shrieking Harpy

            I know. The snark wasn’t directed at you.

  • Maybe

    The only group I’m aware of that has been severely hurt by immigration is Native Americans.

    • Shrieking Harpy

      But they “vanished” long ago.

      • thixotropic jerk

        Well they slaved each other and stole horsies from the innocent Hispaniards and so they asked for them pox blankies to be handed out just to make things fair for the pioneers.

        • Shrieking Harpy

          And that’s how American Exceptionalism works.

          • thixotropic jerk

            Man-O-Fest Destiny’s Child

        • Red Bird

          Nope.

          • thixotropic jerk

            It’s all right there if you just know where to look! In the Wasichu Files.

      • Maybe

        I’m just surprised that Trump and Miller don’t want to deport them.

        Of course, maybe they do.

  • Note the “white privileged liberal” mantra. The far-right / Fascists think they’ve got a winner by misusing phrases which have been used to criticise liberals from the Left.

    But the real disaster is when certain Leftists think because of this that fascists are their friends. This is how we get Red-Brown, Jill Stein, Hitler-Stalin pact politics. The Left ALWAYS gets fucked over in such arrangements.

    • little miss high and mighty

      Almost like The Grateful Dead entrusting their security detail to the Hell’s Angels back in the day

      • Smoke O’Hontas

        I thought that was the Stones at Altmont?

        • little miss high and mighty

          Bill Wyman (Stone Alone) says Altamont security came from the Dead- But the Dead (and Ken Kesey) had been courting the Angels for years previosly and, according to Reddit Grateful Dead the “OL”” “mellower Angels were security at several earl Dead festiivities.
          psi love both the Stones and the Dead but this is als mentioned heavily in Wolfe’s “The Electric Coolaid Acid Test”

          • Smoke O’Hontas

            Huh. Did not know that. Thanks for learning me sumpin!

          • Gigglesnort

            The Dead were tight with the Angels, and the Dead had put on a fair number of free shows in Golden Gate Park. The Stones weren’t really thinking much about or planning very well the whole Altamont thing, but if they thought about it at all they wanted the kind of vibe the Dead had at their free gigs, and apparently they got the idea of using the Angels from the Dead. However, the Angels weren’t security at the Dead shows, they just came there to party, and most people with a grain of sense knew to keep out of their way. So mostly it was chill, but with the Angels, you never knew when or if it was going to go another way.

          • little miss high and mighty

            thanks- wish we coulda seen some of this first hand- for better or worse.
            Maybe the Angels were more angelic back then- when “Sonny” was still a pup and not a racketeer/mobster/killer/scarry person

          • Gigglesnort

            They were always unpredictable. Hunter S. Thompson hung around with them for a considerable time and wrote a book about it, but then one day they decided to stomp his ass.

          • little miss high and mighty

            His breakthrough (pun intended) but, as with so much of ol Duke’s Avatar- the book is rife with BEEEE ESSS
            But we likes ol Hunts anywayze
            note Frank Mankewicz (sp) and Gary Hart and Loren Greene were not charmed but refusd to bring libel against H.S.T. for his scandalous claims in “Fear And Loathing On The Campaign Trail”- Shark Hunt could have brought probs with Dr. Henry Kiss His Ass (scuba gear sabotage) as well.
            But by then (later 70’s) the Yellow Journalism was taken into salt grain considerations and revisionisms.

          • mailman27

            I used to play in a country-rock kind of band back in the day, and we wound up being favorites of the local branch of the Eastern biker gang the P***ns. Played at one of their fave bars, and a couple of private parties. They were not just misunderstood. They were BAD NEWS.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Sonny actually warned them that moving the concert meant a different chapter of the Angels would be in charge

          • little miss high and mighty

            Well, the kid rushing the stage was armed. so it copplicated the litigation later on and Anges didn’t show to answer or , in some cases even remember.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            the film clip actually helped the court case- the whole thing was a massive fuckup though. Too many people who knew better declined to get involved and the ones who didn’t know better declined to listen to anyone who and went full steam ahead straight into the history books

          • little miss high and mighty

            Some say (donno about these “some”s) tthat this incident effectively killed (ended, maybe) the 60’s
            But we’d rather they ended with the reelectioon of Nixon/Agnew and the advent of mainstream longhairism and commercial pseudo subversive cutural attitudes, circa 1973
            But we weren’t there- maybe “some was and knows better we donno.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            The big problem was Mick Jagger. The Stones were finishing up their US tour and were just starting to dig themselves out of a financial hole. They intended to film a free show in Golden Gate Park, but the city wouldn’t give them the permits. Then they planned on doing it at Sears Point at the raceway there, but officials freaked out at the chaotic half assed job of preliminary work and demanded a $100,000 fee to let the concert happen.But Mick balked at sharing the profits and instead they moved it to Altamont, hurriedly ferrying the half built stage and P.A. to the new location

            Re: the Dead and the Hells Angels- the local hippie scene was indeed tight with the San Francisco chapter of the Angels, who were often unofficial security, but were mostly at the shows to party and enjoy the music like everyone else. The problem was, once the concert was moved way out of town, the SF chapter no longer had jurisdiction. Though they were in attendance, it was the San Jose chapter that was actually hired to be security. The whole thing was a rolling calamity- there were no facilities or water or food, due to the last minute move, no shade on a hot inland day, lots of bad acid, way too much booze and speed. Jagger’s decision to go on late for the purpose of the film just made things worse.

          • doktorzoom

            Whoever first thought to write about the Stones’ 1971 French sojourn with the headline with the headline “Gimme Tax Shelter” had to have been mighty pleased with himself (or herself, though given the journalism demographics of the day, unlikely).

            I see from a quick search that NYT liked that hed so much they used it in stories about the Stones in 2002 and 2007.

            (First use I could find with Google is 1998 from the Glasgow Daily Record, but someone has to have used it earlier, no?)

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            I’m not sure which is worse- getting the shit beat out of you by a biker’s pool cue or a bankster’s ledger- at least the bruises from the pool cue go away faster…

          • marshlc

            “some will rob you with a six gun, and some with a fountain pen…”

    • C4TWOMAN

      Yup. Want to know what happened to the left-Liberatians in the big L-party? They were used to get the numbers for party recognition, and also too as sheilds against accusations they were all right extremists… and then Ron Paul’s racist newletters rose from the grave the second time in 2008. The Libery Forums were full of lefty-Ls going “WTF” and getting no straight answers, and in many cases banhammered. You can still find the comments in the archives if you search.
      That was the end of any significant organized numbers of left-libertarians in US politics. If only they had been informed about these radical-right, fake lefty political fronts. Though to be fair, the dynamic wasn’t widely known or understood even by people who claim to be politically savvy.

    • Forced to say the US left – here in yurp we are still fighting sigh. Probably losing but hey. That may have come out a bit harsh but I have a throat full of razorwire.

      Hugs

    • theCryptofishist

      The Russian left was fucked over long before Ribbentrop-Molotov.

    • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

      As if most conservatives aren’t white and privileged.

  • Bub the very stable zombie

    “My stars, Muffy! How dreadfully, DREADFULLY gauche!”
    https://twitter.com/filmystic/status/955144396978221056

    • Mike Minden

      Further proof money can’t buy class or good taste.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      I want so much to believe this is self aware irony and not clueless trashy rich person.

      • bakerina

        I am reasonably sure that this is Kelly Bensimon in a scene from Real Housewives of New York City, so I guess the answer would depend on your opinion of the RH franchise. (That said, I vote for Column B.)

      • bakerina

        Dagnabbit. I just realized you were probably referring to the caviar pic, and not to the drumming pic. I’m going to scuttle off in embarrassment now.

    • Everrett Fanuelli
      • Mike Minden

        Is she auditioning for a tryst with Trumpy?

        • C4TWOMAN

          Is she on speed?

      • eggs ackly-wright

        Wipipo.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Its so sad because plenty of European cultures have strong drumming traditions…and I don’t mean marching band.
        May god that gif is horid.

        • Red Bird

          Cultural amnesia equals better acceptance with the elite.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Alas, this is how the Irish became “white”, aka “respectable”.

          • Hesavebread!

            Wait, when did this happen?

          • C4TWOMAN

            When Riverdance got big.

      • thixotropic jerk

        She can sure keep the beat though

    • Justin Thyme

      That should be the least of your worries! Wait, I know, complain to the “help”. They’ll fix it for you.

      • willi0000000

        well . . . it is their fault, you know . . . so it’s their responsibility to make it right . . . i’m sure they’ll see it my way when i threaten their jobs.

        eta – it’s a wonder that more limos full of rich trash aren’t found in rivers and lakes for miles around mal-a-large-o

    • SDGeoff3

      I’m shocked.

    • Notreelyhelping

      And welcome to another episode of SHITHOLE GRIFTER!

    • janecita

      That whole presentation looks disgusting.

    • Poly_Ester

      but where’s the ketchup?

      • willi0000000

        in the back . . .behind the tin-plate roman helmet . . . it’s only a large, not the family size, so you don’t see it in the pic.

    • anon_the_great

      The rich lady is right.

    • thixotropic jerk

      Wait till she figures out what The Help put in the chocolate cake

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      “The food is terrible, and the portions are so small!”

    • GreyWolfSC

      Did they really just toss caviar still in a jar on the buffet table? Classy!

  • ChumpsForTrump

    Interesting how far these trolls will go to sow confusion.. to the point where they make up whole chapters of history and then accuse people of not knowing them.

    It’s a well known Russian tactic, which goes back long before 2016.

    • I don’t know how “Russian” the tactic is, but what it is is pure bullshit.

      • ChumpsForTrump

        I’m thinking back to the articles I was reading about the troll farms, before they were linked to Trump. They were used to create hoaxes, cause confusion, generate conflict and generally muddy the waters on everything – the goal was that Americans don’t know what’s true and what isn’t.

        I’m not saying this person is necessarily linked to Russia, just that this is exactly the sort of thing they have been doing for years.

    • phoenix00

      “Gaslighting”

  • Very Stable Royal Ugly Dude

    “If MLK were alive today…”
    Yeah, well he’s NOT

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Game is on. National Anthem about to be sung so make sure you’re all standing in your living rooms.

    • mailman27

      Oh, so you’re standing, are you? Well, is your hand over your heart? Didn’t think so. You are no patriot.

    • efoveks

      But are you wearing pants?

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      The TV is not on here. Do I still have to stand?

    • thixotropic jerk

      I’m wearing a MAGWA (Make America Great White Again) top hat plus a copy of the Declaration of Independence over my American Flag long johns so I’m covered, see?

    • little miss high and mighty

      Please don’t spoiler the game- Iwe can only watch it late tomorrow (storm outage still)
      Go Jagwads!

    • phoenix00

      Am I allowed to kneel?

      #Kapknowsthelyrics

  • Blanche de Shambles
    • Red Bird

      :)

  • “If MLK were alive today…”

    As opposed to not having been murdered by a white supremacist, you mean? Please, tell me more.

  • CaliCheeseSucks

    And finally, “GoldBell” got to the Democrat Plantation, though not quite invoking that term, after someone suggested they were peddling racist arguments:

    Ah, I have heard this same dumbassery under the term “white plantationist” as well. Usually from the same racist gasbags screaming, “Africa had slavery!” and “Martin Luther King wouldn’t approve of Barack Obama/Maxine Waters/Eric Holder!”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f1eb31170e80910d02f3dadc24440f4f7886c81a9e7c193e84cf12d93e254ef.gif

    • Resistor Radio

      Oh! I know that one! The “slavery was invented by black Africans and was abolished by white Americans” argument. And, ugh.

      • CaliCheeseSucks

        Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

        And when you point out the bullshit in their arguments? You’re the racist!

        • Resistor Radio

          It’s hard to point out th bullshit when you’ve gone bug-eyed and dumbstruck that they are seriously making that argument.

          • CaliCheeseSucks

            Very very true!

      • puredog

        I thought the blahs were immigrants seeking a better life? Ben? Ben, where are you to bring clarity to this discourse?

    • little miss high and mighty

      Better check King Alfonzo’s slave trade connections- some of that is true.
      Tribes reduced their competition with the help of the old European entrepreneurial spirit. Made a tindy profit as well. So there’s that a bit…
      full disclosure:
      we do not approve and we are not Portugese slave trade apologists-

    • Ryan Denniston

      I see Jeff Sessions is off duty, and no one can help him get back.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Will someone give him a sock, so the house elf can be free?

  • clairence

    You can’t just pluck someone out of history and assume that if they had lived through the last decades (or over a century), their own views would remain fixed.

    WWJD?

    • efoveks

      Real Jesus or Fundie Xtian Jesus?

      (The former does the right thing, the latter does the self-righteous thing.)

  • efoveks

    Bigotry comes in all forms, and it looks like Dok inadvertently hit the jackpot in attracting old “GoldBell”. Leave it to a real intellectual to make lemons from lemonade. I tip my hat to you, Dok.

  • Ryan Denniston

    Trump wants to go nucular. Because 50 is a majority of 100. If I was McConnell, I’d pay airfare to have that clown flown to mar-a-lago for the week.

  • Ωbjectifier

    “The music came on. The clothes came off. And an airport strip club claimed its piece of the American presidency.”

    – NY Times

    • Ryan Denniston

      Still doesn’t let you off the hook for blaming the Dems over the shutdown Saturday, times.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    “Du Bois”?! You can’t fool me, Doktor Zoome. That’s a city in PA, and it’s pronounced like it’s spelled, no fancy pants French pronouncin’!!

    • Ryan Denniston

      He’s not getting recognized more and more every day :(

      • Msgr_MΩment

        If Dok Zoom is his real name.

        • Ryan Denniston

          Course it is. He has man named Kid Zoom living in the same house.

          • Lordpnut

            Ya see! Chain migration.

    • Shrieking Harpy

      This Canadian remembers driving through Peer, South Dakota.

      • theCryptofishist

        *Ahem!* That’s the imperative. Peer south, Dakota!

        • Shrieking Harpy

          Oh, okay . . . makes sense, then! (I just googled “Pierre, South Dakota” and the internet says–and so it must be true–that this pronunciation is an example of Dakotan “ruggedness.” I live just north of the Dakotas, where the French-speaking citizens here would have much to say about that–in Maniswoba joual, of course.)

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Do South Dakotans have a right to a trial by jury of their Pierres?

      • (Nasty Girl) Brianna #RESIST

        Not to be confused with Los Baños, CA.

    • Everyone knows it’s ‘W.E.B. Des Moines’.

      Sheesh.

      • thixotropic jerk

        Actually it’s !H!E!B! De A’Rbusto

      • Kateaux

        Pronounced “Dezmoynees”. (Shush, I’m a non-Des Moinesian Iowan, and I’m allowed to make fun of Iowa’s finest wannabe city.)

    • Lordpnut

      That city is a fake shithole, the real one is in Idaho.

  • Red Bird

    Am I the only one who noticed the GoldBell/Goebles thing with his avatar?
    Also, I’m surprised to see how quickly the “foreing” trolls have caught on to the privileged white liberal trope. I guess they’ve been studying black twitter extra hard. I hope February doesn’t have a flood of What MLK Said about white liberals this year. I’m not sure if the end game of this is to actually win black supporters for the conservative side or to indirectly alienate white liberals into abandoning the progressive movement. Either way, I’m not here for it.

  • CriticalDragon1177

    “Goldbell” is yet another example as to why you shouldn’t get your news, or in this case history lessons from right wing propaganda sites.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    “Democrats don’t actually care about black people,”

    So many African-Americans are Democrats, or at least Democrat-friendly. Hmmm…

    • Ryan Denniston

      Lo, I do declare I have evidence to the contrary.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI

    • thixotropic jerk

      But that’s only because they can’t think for themselves too good see cos otherwise they would see how much better it is on the Rethuglickin Plantation where it’s Give Us Another Zippity Doo Dah Boy and Bootstraps Molasses poured over Enjoy These Crumbs, Felonius Monkeys! All. The. Live. Long. Day.

    • Delu

      They keep saying that because they somehow think this means that their counterparts, Trumpians, actually DO care about black people.

      Yeah.

  • Jamoche
    • Ryan Denniston

      Small towns. What about not-small towns. Nothing? You besoil yourself NyTimes. But I repeat myself.

    • BadKitty904

      You sure can count on the NYT, of late, to fuck up any reporting dealing with Americans or America. Versus, say, Republicans, Nazis, and other fascists.

    • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

      I heard at first they wanted to go with “the two women picture below” instead of thousands.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Maggie can’t risk pissing off the boy king, who is sensitive about these attendance numbers thingies- she might lose her precious access.

    • Marion in Savannah

      And of course comments are not available. And also too and in addition of course you can’t complain to the Public Editor of the NYT BECAUSE THEY DISSOLVED THAT POSITION IN JUNE OF 2017.

      Heading off to chew on some razor blades.

    • mancityRed6

      fake news

      • Lordpnut

        Fake shithole.

        • mancityRed6

          I resent that. He is indeed a real shithole.

  • katkelly57

    GoldBell, sure is a big assed ding-a-ling.

  • Shrieking Harpy

    And some more from Du Bois: “Now is the accepted time, not tomorrow, not some convenient season. It is today that our best work can be done and not some future day or future year. It is today that we fit ourselves for the greater usefulness of tomorrow. Today is the seed time, now are the hours of work, and tomorrow comes the harvest and the play time.”

    Du Bois was a brilliant man whose life-long activism made him a target of the FBI and HUAC.

    • little miss high and mighty

      AND German educated (Humboldt)

      • doktorzoom

        Oh lord, it’s hard to be Humboldt…

        • Querolous

          Better to be Humboldt than to be Humbert.

      • Shrieking Harpy

        He graduated from Fisk and then went to Harvard, which did not recognize his Fisk BA (because colour and “civilization” and “tradition”), and where he received his second BA, and then received the John F. Slater Fund for the Education of Freedmen to attend the University of Berlin. He then returned to Harvard where he earned his PhD, but soon was rendered unemployable as an intellectual black man.

        • little miss high and mighty

          The old Berlin University is now called “Humboldt”
          Plus, too, he taught at Wibuforce (sp?) a while- late 1800’s)
          There are memorials to him at Humboldt

    • theCryptofishist

      I want to down fist FBI and, especially, HUAC.

    • Today is the seed time, now are the hours of work, and tomorrow comes the harvest and the play time

      I reap what I don’t sow

      Hey hey
      https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.10109357.9524/flat,800×800,075,f.jpg

  • John Lo

    So, granted that GoldBell slept through grammar and spelling during GED prep, and MUS, (makes up shit,) about W.E.B Du Bois and Booker T. Washington.
    The fact remains he is a racist, and correcting racists is like fishing in a dry lake bed, it’s pointless.

    • thixotropic jerk

      Not if’n you’re fishin’ fer jerked trout or salmon balyk or Jeprox Smelt or, or, or jes’ fishin’ for compliments!

  • Poly_Ester

    “Non Sequitur,” the wingnut mantra!

  • Peripatetic Poltroon

    “…suggesting that blacks have all been tricked into thinking racism is still a problem is kind of racist, isn’t it?”
    Gee, I dunno. A hell of a lot of white folks have been tricked into thinking white people are horribly oppressed. At least black people have been tricked into thinking something that is actually true.

  • M.E. Lawrence

    Good piece on the delicate position of HBCUs under the Con. What Would Du Bois and Washington Have Done?

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/15/under-trump-a-hard-test-for-howard-university

  • Wait…

    Why are we writing entire articles about Vonnegut characters now?

    • Daniel

      I believe this is the way it goes.

      • It was a dark and stormy night.

        • thixotropic jerk

          And then it was a dark and Stormy Waters/Daniels night after night after night. And very very dark. The End.

    • theCryptofishist

      Dok’s recycling his old book reports.

    • handyhippie65

      he did it for the derp?

    • little miss high and mighty

      so it goes…
      potweet
      potweet

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    Well, the way I see it, the Jaguars have to bring pressure on Brady in order to have a chance. That means a well-designed blitz package. And the cornerbacks and linebackers have to disrupt the short passing patterns – that means a lot of bumping within the five-yard limit. And the safeties have to keep up on the deep patterns. But if Brady is pressured, he won’t have time to throw deep balls.

    What’s that?

    Oh, sorry, wrong forum. Who knows a good recipe for canned clams?

  • azeyote

    the only book that makes me lose patience, if someone hasn’t read it is – the education of little tree – i get almost driven to go out and get them a copy and make sure it gets read – weird –

    • Wonky “BeefTwister” McGoo

      why?

    • alpacapunchbowl

      Isn’t that the one that was supposedly an autobiography but then turned out to be a work of fiction written by a segregationist who had written speeches for George Wallace and was a klan member?

  • Lordpnut

    Thanks, Dok, for this fine example of how the right uses nominally true facts to construct a straw man or red herring, and how to crush it.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    How can you tell GoldBell’s a troll? He’s a conservative who claims to be concerned about the plight of African Americans.

    • Ducksworthy

      Also using the Russian version of The Negro in the South is a giveaway.

      • theCryptofishist

        It was about the Georgians.

  • andyshelt

    Just when you thought that Trump’s history of racism couldn’t get any weirder there’s a fascinating story in The Washington Post about Woody Guthrie penning lyrics condemning Trump’s father, Fred Trump, for racism.

    Yet more reason to love Woody.

    “Old Man Trump knows
    Just how much
    Racial Hate
    he stirred up
    In the bloodpot of human hearts
    When he drawed
    That color line
    Here at his
    Eighteen hundred family project”
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ebf264bafe37c6e7d99a6b4f8baa3e959c883ba7388346184329aa7efbbc8a64.jpg

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/01/22/the-unbelievable-story-of-why-woody-guthrie-hated-donald-trumps-racist-dad/?utm_term=.5e5e194aa595

    • (Nasty Girl) Brianna #RESIST

      That machine killed fascists.

      • little miss high and mighty

        just not enough of ’em

    • little miss high and mighty

      We found the “Beach Haven” story and we illustrated the home prints and sent them out hard copy mail to friends and troublemakers- esp in NYC
      The best overview is to be found in theconversation.com- actually 2 songs came out of Woody’s tenancy at the project (he signed his ease in 1950).
      NY officials always covered for Sicko Fred- except when it was politic to do otherwise.

      • andyshelt

        Thanks for the link.

        Another example of Woody’s lyrics attacking Fred Trump shown below.

        “Humm humm, Trump, you made a tramp out of me;
        Hummm, humm, Trump, you made a tramp out of me;
        You robbed my wife and robbed my kids,
        Made me stay drunk and to hit the skids;
        Yepsir, Trump, you made a tramp out of me.”

        I think a lot of people will be expressing similar sentiments by the end of President Dipshit’s term of office.

        • little miss high and mighty

          The gentle counter (redemption) is Michelle Obama’s
          (and Ella Fitzgerald’s in another sense of “high”)
          “When they go low we go high”

          But “get high” works, too, no?

  • Um trolls. Don’t get the Cliff-Notes version of the Big Book of Liberal Argumentative Constructs.

    Signed, someone abusing trolls with my “liberal white privilege” (by being poor and black. And gay. One more “disadvantaged” grouping and I earn a free Slurpee!)

    • Lambsendbeds

      You could try being a poor, black, gay Jewish woman! You’d get a free six inch sammich from Subway for that !

      • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

        But none of the ones with ham.

        • thixotropic jerk

          Unless: ham handed canned clammed spam?

          • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

            I will not eat them, Sam I Am.

          • Pisto75666

            You MONSTER!

      • Empress of the Iguana People

        don’t forget disabled!

      • Rooster Cogburn105

        Is the 6-inch cicrumcised, or is that the footlong?

    • theCryptofishist

      There’s always disability.

    • little miss high and mighty

      Take care of that health you still have.
      Years do a thing for that catagory “disabled” the (trifecta qualifications) Black and the Gay and the Poor can be adjusted- the perm.disabled thing, less so.

  • (Nasty Girl) Brianna #RESIST

    Well THIS Black American says “GoldBell” is nothing but a white racist Trump supporting moron who doesn’t know a goddamned thing about us but pretends to actually care since Black people aren’t exactly lining up to support his Golden Boy.

    Fuck these people.

    • AuntyMaude

      Couldn’t agree more!

    • blaid droog

      Fucking these people would be a kindness. Depriving them of two scoops of vanilla and forcing them to have only chocolate would be more fitting.

  • ken_kukec

    No, no. W.E.B. “DuBois” was Blanche and Stella’s half brother who got left back on the Belle Reve plantation, after Daddy had his way with the help.

    • Rick Gardner

      He showed Blanche the door, as she was depending on the kindness of too many strangers…

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    Thanks Dok.
    If you haven’t read it, pick up a copy of “The Miseducation of the Negro” by Woodson.

    The debate over Du Bois’ “Talented Tenth” and Washington’s Vocational Education model is still bebated at HBCUs.

  • Nephilim

    I am always amazed that the ability to forget history is a choice for some people.

    • theCryptofishist

      If only they’d been condemned to taking the history class again.

      • HooverVilles

        Something something repeating same action and expecting different results something something.

        • theCryptofishist

          Something, something, curl up something ball, something, rocking, something.

    • HooverVilles

      Willing ignorance.

  • Delu

    Well this is yet another instance of a Trumpian trying to call Democrats racist by…..referring to someone from more than 50 years ago and what he allegedly said at the time.

    This never gets old, it’s why we keep seeing the dixiecrat fallacy keep popping up. Of course, if you need to refer to figures that were prominent half a century ago to show how related people TODAY are cut from the same cloth, that simply begs the question of….why not simply show how people today ARE cut from that same cloth?

    It’s not like they can’t find any examples if they are right since such examples would of course exist by merit of them being right. Yet for some reason this seems to be far harder than going back over half a century to dig up shit.

    His comments on Trayvon Martin show us exactly who the real racist is though.

    • Stulexington

      Also too it shows just how badly they want things to be like they were in the 50’s.

      • ImGoingBacon

        Which ’50’s? 1650’s?. 1750’s?, 1850’s?, 1950’s? AOT,K?

  • Last Hussar

    Couldn’t care less. The phase is COULDN’T care less.

    • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

      That never fails to anger me. Sometimes I’ll call them out on it.

      • THE Careless Coulds!!!1!1!

      • (((Aron)))

        Well I COULD care less, but I DON’T!

  • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

    Excuse me, but isn’t he the very definition of racist?

    • Andy_Kreiss

      No, you’re The Real Racist© for noticing.

      • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith

        And you’re the real racist for calling out my pointing out that tat original guy is a racist. I have a headache.

        • Andy_Kreiss

          That’s because you have alive stuff in your skull that can hurt.

  • chascates

    No mention of George Soros or pizzagate?

    • (((Aron)))

      EVERYONE DRINK!

  • thatdamnbob

    in a tangentially related happening, on Letterman’s new program on Netflix, the one guest he’s had thus far is former President Obama, and a little beyond halfway through the program, there is an exchange that I found quite enlightening, the exchange begins when there is approximately 26 minutes remaining in the program:
    Letterman is relating a discussion he had with John Lewis, in which Letterman said: “we can define racism but can we explain it” and relates that John Lewis answered in a way “… just because he thought that I would never understand it, he [Lewis] said that
    ‘it’s just the difference in skin color’ ”
    and Letterman says to Obama “it can’t possibly be that simplistic”
    to which Obama replied, in the midst of a pretty good professorial treatment of the racism and how it has been, over the course of three or four hundred years, built into social structures, etc, but that, essentially, racism? yeah, “… we made it up”
    So, I’m sure that Morgan Freeman’s refusal to support Black History Month, and that and that the best way to end racism today is to
    “stop talking about it” is another example of seeing this racism thing with clarity and simplicity, like a common genius, for, remember that Einstein told us
    “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.”

  • Jennaratrix

    He/she seems nice.

    • (((Aron)))

      My thoughts exactly!

  • Damian Hammontree

    I’ve pointed out to racists that the idea that black people are overwhelmingly too stupid to figure out for themselves what racism is is itself racist as hell, for years. Always sails a mile over their heads.

    • (((Aron)))

      Wha?

  • Maree Martin

    Nothing worse than an idiot Republican showing the world how “smart” he is. It’s like Steven Miller using British pronunciations so he sounds like he’s not a mentally deficient fascist.

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  • rubikcube

    Racists are way more fun when try to act all smart and such. I especially like during our enlightening discussions on the Racist History of the Party of Librul Racism watching them go sputter and gasp when asked where I can send my Thank You cards to the KKK for helping elect Barack Obama twice.
    But one good thing– I found out Abraham Lincoln and MLK were Republicans — a lot of people don’t know that. Did you?

  • John D. Horton

    Kick all coons and coloreds back to Africa, Asia and south of the US border so they can draw welfare off their own people and not off of the White working man who is the only net contributor to the tax base in the USA (i.e. all others, women and coloreds, take out more from the government via welfare than they put in via taxation). If you really love beggar coons, then move to Africa etc. and give all your money to the coons.

    The Third World invasion of the West is all based on Communist envy (i.e. the desire of Communist non-workers to take from Capitalist workers). The beggars from the Third World do not want to improve their own countries but would rather beg in Western countries. It is statistically impossible for the West which is 10% of the world’s population to babysit the 90% of the world’s population located in the Third World by moving the Third World population to Europe and North America.

    Kick the dirty illegals and other foreigners out of Europe and North America because they stink especially if they are on welfare. Hire bounty hunters to round up illegals so the job can be accomplished in 30 days at $100 / head, dead or alive. No USA southern border wall will be needed if USA bounty hunters are out looking to make a pay check with a shotgun in hand.

    99% of fake refugees placed in the USA are Muslim because the United Nations High Commission for Refugees is 80% staffed by Muslims and the Commission is a propaganda and Muslim population invasion agency of the Islamic Caliphate. In other words, it’s a deceptive racket and con-job.

    Bibliography (mostly books) on illegal immigration, “Islamic immigration jihad / hegira,” fake refugees and the Islamic Invasion Army conquest of Europe and North America:

    — ¡Adios, America! : the left’s plan to turn our country into a third world hellhole https://lccn.loc.gov/2015012276

    — Alien nation : common sense about America’s immigration disaster https://lccn.loc.gov/94012478

    — America alone : the end of the world as we know it https://lccn.loc.gov/2006024828

    — America and Islam after Iraq http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/851989001

    — American jihad : the terrorists living among us https://lccn.loc.gov/2002319345

    — Ann Coulter, who has studied the illegal immigrant problem extensively, found the number of illegal aliens in the United States to be in the neighborhood of 40 million: https://conservativedailypost.com/justice-dept-and-dhs-jump-into-fray-as-report-delivers-scathing-proof/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_campaign=23_December-1

    — Anti-semitism and multiculturalism : the uneasy connection https://lccn.loc.gov/2008401896

    — Arab responses to fascism and Nazism : attraction and repulsion https://lccn.loc.gov/2013038483

    — Arab winter comes to America : the truth about the war we’re in https://lccn.loc.gov/2014002639

    — Between immigration and Islam : Europe rethinks itself : the refugees’ arrival in transforming the continent and creating new dynamics in the Muslim world http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/1011145154

    — Bible: “Before your very eyes, foreigners are devouring your land— they’ve brought devastation on it, while the land is overthrown by foreigners.” Isaiah 1:7.

    — Black terror white soldiers : Islam, fascism & the new age http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/856904362

    — The borders of “Europe” : autonomy of migration, tactics of bordering https://lccn.loc.gov/2017007582

    — The case for Islamophobia : Jihad by the sword, America’s final warning http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/828486421

    — Catastrophic failure : blindfolding America in the face of jihad https://lccn.loc.gov/2015905620

    — The Catholic Church has converted to Communism and now propagandizes for Islam and unlimited legal and illegal immigration (web articles and books):

    —- http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-catholic-church-has-gone-socialist/

    —- http://newpol.org/content/catholicism-new-communism

    —- http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-church-captured-by-progressive-forces/

    —- http://www.aim.org/aim-column/how-the-russians-practice-disinformation/

    —- https://capitalresearch.org/article/dissenting-catholic-charities-1/?blm_aid=6828040

    —- AA-1025 : the memoirs of an anti-apostle https://lccn.loc.gov/91075254

    —- (contrary view) Italian Archbishop: Uncontrolled Immigration Will ‘Crush’ European Society! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2zBhmpE1JM

    —- Disinformation : former spy chief reveals secret strategies for undermining freedom, attacking religion, and promoting terrorism https://lccn.loc.gov/2013375219 (especially Liberation Theology and the Catholic Church)

    —- John Courtney Murray, Time/Life and the American proposition : how the CIA’s doctrinal warfare program changed the Catholic Church http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/980302705

    —- School of darkness https://lccn.loc.gov/54010204

    — Combating jihadism American hegemony and interstate cooperation in the War on Terrorism https://lccn.loc.gov/2009005890

    — Confessions of an Islamophobe http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/1008899092

    — A convergence of civilizations : the transformation of Muslim societies around the world https://lccn.loc.gov/2010042554

    — The crisis of multiculturalism in Europe : a history https://lccn.loc.gov/2017936617

    — Crusade and Jihad : The thousand-year war between the Muslim world and the global north https://lccn.loc.gov/2017942543

    — The Death of the West http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/748295931

    — The decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam : from Jihad to Dhimmitude : seventh-twentieth century https://lccn.loc.gov/95044452

    — Deported : immigrant policing, disposable labor, and global capitalism https://lccn.loc.gov/2015019580

    — The Dhimmi : Jews and Christians under Islam https://lccn.loc.gov/84047749

    — Dhimmi peoples : oppressed nations https://lccn.loc.gov/98233288

    — Easy meat : inside Britain’s grooming gang scandal http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/946672649

    — The EU and Africa : from Eurafrique to Afro-Europa https://lccn.loc.gov/2012010864

    — Eurabia : the Euro-Arab axis https://lccn.loc.gov/2004025171

    — Eurojihad : patterns of Islamist radicalization and terrorism in Europe https://lccn.loc.gov/2014018139

    — Europe, globalization and the coming universal caliphatehttps://lccn.loc.gov/2011014646

    — Four Situations in Which Aliens Are Treated Better than Citizens https://cis.org/North/Four-Situations-Which-Aliens-Are-Treated-

    — The fight of our lives : knowing the enemy, speaking the truth & choosing to win the war against radical Islam https://lccn.loc.gov/2011920640

    — The force of reason https://lccn.loc.gov/2005935245

    — Fortress Europe? : challenges and failures of migration and asylum policies https://lccn.loc.gov/2017935813

    — France closes mosque for “encouraging radicalism” (website) http://en.apa.az/world-news/europe/france-closes-mosque-for-

    encouraging-radicalism.html

    — Global Jihad and America : the hundred-year-war beyond Iraq and Afghanistan https://lccn.loc.gov/2014004948

    — God’s terrorists : the Wahhabi cult and hidden roots of modern Jihad https://lccn.loc.gov/2008299621

    — Goodbye, Europe? Hello, chaos? : Merkel’s migrant bomb https://lccn.loc.gov/2017938499

    — The grand jihad how Islam and the left sabotage America https://lccn.loc.gov/2010003842

    — Hasta la vista Europe! : what you’re not being told about the refugee crisis and how it’s destroying Europe http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/954004180

    — Hope for the world : to unite all things in Christ https://lccn.loc.gov/2016934631(“Islam is a religion that, according to its own interpretation, must also become the State. The Koran, and the authentic interpretations of it given by various experts in Koranic law, is destined to govern the world.” Islam is not a religion. It is a form of government. — Raymond Cardinal Burke of the Catholic Church of Rome).

    — House of war : Islam’s jihad against the worldhttps://lccn.loc.gov/2015011971

    — Icon of evil : Hitler’s mufti and the rise of radical Islam https://lccn.loc.gov/2007045131

    — In the house of war : Dutch Islam observed https://lccn.loc.gov/2009034600

    — Infiltration : how Muslim spies and subversives have penetrated Washington https://lccn.loc.gov/2004031023

    — Invasion : how America still welcomes terrorists, criminals, and other foreign menaces to our shores https://lccn.loc.gov/2002010845

    — Islam, America’s Trojan Horse! : a Christian looks at Islam https://lccn.loc.gov/2003440494

    — Islam and Dhimmitude : where civilizations collide https://lccn.loc.gov/2001040101

    — Islam and Nazi Germany’s war https://lccn.loc.gov/2011381762

    — Islam and terrorism https://lccn.loc.gov/2015945093

    — Islam, British society and the terrorist threat https://lccn.loc.gov/2008429153

    — Islam : religion or fascism? http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/966644220

    — Islamic fascism https://lccn.loc.gov/2015030318

    — Islamic militancy https://lccn.loc.gov/2009003281

    — Islamist terrorism in Europe : a history https://lccn.loc.gov/2016304577

    — It is about Islam: exposing the truth about Isis, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the Caliphate https://lccn.loc.gov/2015463729

    — The Jews as the destroyers via Communism of White, Christian societies as revenge for historical anti-Semitism and the Holocaust:

    —- Cultural insurrections : essays on Western civilization, Jewish influence, and anti-semitism https://lccn.loc.gov/2007032934

    —- The devil’s pleasure palace the cult of critical theory and the subversion of the West http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/945191463

    —- The culture of critique : an evolutionary analysis of Jewish involvement in twentieth-century intellectual and political movements https://lccn.loc.gov/98014905

    —- Essential papers on Jews and the Left https://lccn.loc.gov/97003723

    —- The international Jewish Labor Bund after 1945 : toward a global history https://lccn.loc.gov/2011010855

    —- The Jewish revolutionary spirit : and its impact on world history https://lccn.loc.gov/2010279421 (discusses Rothchild and Soros-type sponsorship of subversive activities against European / Christian countries throughout history)

    —- Jewish socialist movements, 1871-1917 : while Messiah tarriedhttps://lccn.loc.gov/86131124

    —- Jews and the left https://lccn.loc.gov/78020871

    —- Jews and the left : the rise and fall of a political alliancehttps://lccn.loc.gov/2014018536

    —- Jews, labour and the left, 1918-48 https://lccn.loc.gov/00105496

    —- On socialists and “the Jewish question” after Marx https://lccn.loc.gov/91016630

    —- Prophecy and politics : socialism, nationalism, and the Russian Jews, 1862-1917 https://lccn.loc.gov/80014414

    —- Revolutionary Jews from Marx to Trotsky https://lccn.loc.gov/76372865

    —- Trotsky : fate of a revolutionary https://lccn.loc.gov/80478952

    — Jihad and Jew-hatred : Islamism, Nazism and the roots of 9/11https://lccn.loc.gov/2007031970

    — Jihad in the west : the rise of militant salafism https://lccn.loc.gov/2010037471

    — Jihad incorporated : a guide to militant Islam in the US https://lccn.loc.gov/2006020265

    — The Jihadist threat : the reconquest of the West? https://lccn.loc.gov/2016417470

    — Kaleidoscope : the resettlement of refugees in the United States by the voluntary agencies https://lccn.loc.gov/84673139

    — Lethal engagement : Barack Hussein Obama, the United Nations, and radical Islam http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/662401573

    — Londonistan https://lccn.loc.gov/2006007865

    — Marxism and the Muslim world https://lccn.loc.gov/81081695

    — Migrant, refugee, smuggler, savior https://lccn.loc.gov/2016049649

    — Migration, terrorism, and the future of a divided Europe : a continent transformed https://lccn.loc.gov/2017011042

    — Militant Islam reaches America https://lccn.loc.gov/2002006482

    — Modern day Trojan horse : al-Hijra, the Islamic doctrice of immigration : accepting freedom or imposing Islam? http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/771465801

    — Mohammed’s Koran : why Muslims kill for Islam http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/1001342097

    — Muslim anti-semitism : a clear and present danger https://lccn.loc.gov/2002523920

    — Muslim mafia : inside the secret underworld that’s conspiring to Islamize Americahttps://lccn.loc.gov/2009931566

    — Muslims in the west after 9/11 : religion, politics and law https://lccn.loc.gov/2009023513

    — The Nazi connection to Islamic terrorism : Adolf Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini https://lccn.loc.gov/2015377303

    — Nazi propaganda for the Arab world https://lccn.loc.gov/2010934952

    — The Nazi roots of Palestinian nationalism and Islamic Jihad https://lccn.loc.gov/2006551625

    — Nazis, Islamists, and the Making of the Modern Middle East https://lccn.loc.gov/2013028622

    — 90% of Middle Eastern immigrants to the United States do not pay income tax and receive money from the government “http://investmentwatchblog.com/90-of-middle-eastern-immigrants-to-the-united-states-do-not-pay-income-tax-and-receive-money-from-the-government/”

    — No go zones: how denialism of radical Islam imperils the West https://lccn.loc.gov/2017034731

    — No, we can’t : radical Islam, militant secularism, and the myth of coexistence https://lccn.loc.gov/2011026092

    — On the immorality of illegal immigration https://lccn.loc.gov/2009908358

    — Political Islam, world politics and Europe : from jihadist to institutional Islamism https://lccn.loc.gov/2013040343

    — Pope Francis loves Islam https://pamelageller.com/2017/12/pope-migrants-mary.html/

    — Al-Qaeda and Jihadi movements worldwide : Islamic Europe and the Frozen Conflicts http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/912951808

    — Radical Islam in America : Salafism’s journey from Arabia to the West https://lccn.loc.gov/2010049193

    — The rage and the pride https://lccn.loc.gov/2002112059

    — Red-green axis : refugees, immigration and the agenda to erase America http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/947844269

    — Reflections on the revolution in Europe : immigration, Islam, and the West https://lccn.loc.gov/2008051563

    — Refugee resettlement and the Hijra to America http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/936107302

    — Refugee resettlement in the United States : language, policy, pedagogy https://lccn.loc.gov/2015023405

    — Refugees, security and the European Union http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/796079893

    — Religion, ethnicity and transnational migration between West Africa and Europe https://lccn.loc.gov/2014006906

    — Religious ideology and the roots of the global Jihad : Salafi Jihadism and international order https://lccn.loc.gov/2014428811

    — The return of the Moor : Spanish responses to contemporary Moroccan immigration https://lccn.loc.gov/2008004327

    — The rise of the Fourth Reich : the secret societies that threaten to take over America https://lccn.loc.gov/2008298928

    — Rohingya hoax https://lccn.loc.gov/2009674844

    — Shariah in America : Islamic Shariah’s threat to American liberty http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/773589009

    — Stealth invasion : Muslim conquest through immigration and resettlement Jihad https://lccn.loc.gov/2016035955

    — Stealth jihad : how radical Islam is subverting America without guns or bombs https://lccn.loc.gov/2008044011

    — Stop the Islamization of America : a practical guide to the resistance https://lccn.loc.gov/2011276829

    — The strange death of Europe : immigration, identity, Islam https://lccn.loc.gov/2017434818

    — The terrorist next door: how the government is deceiving you about the Islamist threat https://lccn.loc.gov/2011009881

    — To host or to hurt : counter-narratives on Rohingya refugee issue in Bangladesh https://lccn.loc.gov/2013315690

    — Unholy alliance : radical Islam and the American left https://lccn.loc.gov/2004018257

    — United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), a Muslim and Jordanian Prince Ra’ad bin Zeid, has been outed for using the UNHCR as an instrument of Muslim invasion and conquest of North America and Europe under the guise of charity for fake refugees: https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/27803-furious-at-trump-disgraced-un-human-rights-boss-to-step-down

    — United States of Jihad : who are America’s homegrown terrorists, and how do we stop them? https://lccn.loc.gov/2015034447

    — ‘We love death as you love life’ : Britain’s suburban terrorists http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/727477083

    — The white man’s burden : why the West’s efforts to aid the rest have done so much ill and so little good https://lccn.loc.gov/2005055516

    — Without roots : the West, relativism, Christianity, Islam https://lccn.loc.gov/2007619292

    — The world turned upside down : the global battle over god, truth, and power https://lccn.loc.gov/2009040614

    — Why Muslim integration fails in Christian-heritage societies https://lccn.loc.gov/2015014163

    • Professor Fate

      Gee more issues that a newsstand with this one.
      Enjoy what should be a short stay by the by..

    • doktorzoom

      Jeeze, there’s making a strong bid for inclusion in next week’s Dear Shitferbrains, and then there’s just spamming. Bye!

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • Jeff Magnus

    I don’t know about Jorge Garcia’s criminal background but he was great on ‘Lost.’

  • Indiepalin

    See also Amos v. Andy, 1947

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