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Larry Nassar, the former team doctor for USA Gymnastics and for women’s gymnastics at Michigan State University, pleaded guilty to multiple counts of criminal sexual conduct. Starting today, as many as 125 of his victims (or their parents) will testify in the sentencing phase of his trial. Last month, Nassar was sentenced to 60 years in prison for child pornography; the victim and witness statements this week will help the judge in the case determine how many additional years he’ll get for molesting and raping girls and young women, usually in the guise of “medical” exams, treatment, or conditioning for competition (please add all the irony quotes you want to that list). Beyond the criminal charges, more than 140 women are also suing Nassar, Michigan State University, and other defendants who they contend enabled Nassar and looked the other way when victims complained. Among the girls and women Nassar assaulted or raped are three of the five American women who won gold medals at the 2012 Olympics: Aly Raisman, Gabby Douglas and McKayla Maroney.

Strangely, this story is getting far less coverage than the NFL playoffs. That might say something about our national values, huh?

Kyle Stephens was the first to testify today, saying that Nassar had begun abusing her when she was six years old:

Nassar, a family friend, exposed himself to her in a dark boiler room. From then until she was 12 years old, he would pleasure himself in front of her, rub his penis on her bare feet and put his finger in her vagina.

At 12, she told her parents about the abuse, but they didn’t believe her. The abuse — and their denial — left her feeling brainwashed, caused a split in her family relationship and led to crippling anxiety, she said.

Stephens said Nassar had compounded his abuse by convincing her family that she was a liar:

“Sexual abuse is so much more than a disturbing physical act. It changes the trajectory of a victim’s life, and that is something that nobody has the right to do,” Stephens said.

Nassar kept his head down and his eyes closed during the hearing, and wouldn’t look at Stephens. It’s things like this that make us think, despite our ACLU membership, that there’s something to be said for a Clockwork Orange setup where Nassar would have his eye forced open. Look at what you’re responsible for.

Gymnast Simone Biles, who won gold in 2016, posted this statement about Nassar to Twitter Monday:

Aly Raisman tweeted yesterday that attending the hearing would be “too traumatic” for her, but that her impact letter would be read in court in front of Nassar. At least he can’t close his ears.

When he pleaded guilty in November, Nassar said he was awfully sorry about the whole thing, but that he’s also ready for the healing to begin, which seems mighty generous of him:

“For all those involved, I’m so horribly sorry that this was like a match that turned into a forest fire out of control,” he said.

“I have no animosity toward anyone. I just want healing. … We need to move forward in a sense of growth and healing and I pray (for) that.”

He has no animosity. That’s nice to know. It would be much worse if he’d felt animosity while he was digitally penetrating girls — which is rape! — in the guise of a “medical exam.”

Judge Rosemarie Aquilina wasn’t buying Nassar’s rush to get to the healing already:

“You used that position of trust that you had in the most vile way to abuse children,” she said. “I agree that now is a time of healing, but it may take them a lifetime of healing while you spend your lifetime behind bars thinking about what you did in taking away their childhood.”

Nassar is never going to come out of prison, for which we’re glad, but the amount of abuse he got away with, in such a central position in a major sport, doesn’t just happen all by itself, as this painful but excellent piece for ESPN the Magazine details. Nassar was surrounded by an infrastructure of enablers,

a group that included coaches of club, collegiate and elite-level gymnasts, the USA Gymnastics organization, medical professionals, administrators and coaches at Michigan State University, and gymnasts’ parents, whom he groomed just as effectively as those he violated.

Some may have been complicit, some may have been snowed by Nassar, who was reportedly a master manipulator, but as with the Penn State abuse case, Harvey Weinstein’s casting couch, and any number of other cases of men misusing their power against women, when victims tried to speak up, there were people there to cover for the abuser, institutions that found it easier to keep things quiet. Even now, the ESPN piece notes, people in the sport and parents of gymnasts are very guarded when they talk about those around Nassar, like US Gymnastics coach John Geddert, who worked with Nassar for over 25 years. ESPN is careful to say it’s “not clear, even today […] how much Geddert knew about Nassar’s serial sexual abuse,” but notes that one woman testified Geddert had witnessed her being “treated” by Nassar — that is, with Nassar’s fingers in her vagina (his preferred “treatment” for back pain, according to several victims) — and Geddert simply joked that her back really must hurt.

Even with the charges and scandal surrounding Nassar, ESPN had some difficulty getting people to talk about Geddert:

Many of those contacted said they were reluctant to speak publicly about Geddert because they either have children involved in gymnastics in the Lansing area or careers in the sport and they are mindful of the power he wields.

It’s a disturbingly familiar story, but an important one. Go read it when you have a chance. Putting abusers like Nassar away is only the start: Somehow we need to find ways to unmake the structures of power, privilege, and denial that put a Larry Nassar in a position to get away with it for so long.

Oh, were we supposed to have a joke in here? Maybe we could make fart noises while yelling Fuck the Patriarchy. Or just yell louder.

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  • oh, the abuser is making it about himself? what a novel approach.

    • The Wanderer

      Belike he still doesn’t believe he did anything wrong.

  • Rags

    Ann Arbor libelz! I think the women would be better off suing Michigan State University.

    • BearLeft

      Yeah, uh, Dok, I don’t thing the University of Michigan has anything to do with this case. Different school.

      • doktorzoom

        And fixed — got it right once, screwed it up once, and copypasted it right once.

        Don’t get me started on Kentucky and Tennessee….

        • Amy!

          I think you must mean Kenneckee and Tentussy.

        • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

          Largely interchangeable, no?

    • doktorzoom

      Fixed!

  • Timothy Watson

    Have there been any investigations into whether mandatory reporters (someone is obligated under the law to report the abuse of minors) failed to notify law enforcement?

    • Rags

      not so much…

      MSU let Larry Nassar see patients for 16 months during criminal sex assault investigation

      http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/12/19/michigan-state-larry-nassar/964034001/

      • Ellie

        Doesn’t that make MSU an accessory? Probably a stupid question, but I know very little about the law.

        • Rags

          The number of court cases that will arise is immense, as are the number of calls for MSU’s prez to resign – big Duh.

        • FlownΩver

          Then you could be White House counsel.

          • Ellie

            But then I’d have to learn to talk about confidential information in a public place where everyone could hear me.

    • The Wanderer

      I hope there are. Teachers, other doctors, nurses, parents – are obligated under the law to report allegations, or suffer judicial sanction themselves.

  • ManchuCandidate

    Uh nothing to see here.
    -RC Church, Baylor U and TLC

  • The Wanderer

    There’ll be plenty of time for his healing, after his head’s been struck off.

  • vukojebina_MΩment
    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      i was JUST hoping one of these cutie pies would get posted for therapeutic purposes.

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    Strangely, this story is getting far less coverage than the NFL playoffs.

    Funny, I’ve seen this story all over the place, and have only seen the NFL on the sportz sites.

  • JaveyDay

    Heartbreaking. Disgusting. Awful. Devastating. I can summon no snark for this story.

    • Bill O’Neil

      My take-away on this is to have female doctors in these situations. Men need not apply.

      • Just in case, I would still want a female chaperone there for exams.

  • William
    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Never car d for sports….never saw the point…I can watch movies while drinking beer and eating wings…

  • William
  • goonemeritus

    It is more like a forest fire that turned into a bigger forest fire and everyone who should have been on hand to put it out just kept bring it new firewood.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Well, in addition to the fact that I am far too lazy to drive my kids everywhere, here is yet another good reason for me to never enroll them in extracurricular activities of any kind.

  • memzilla Ω

    Say, you know who else is a gaslighting rapist motherfucker… ?

  • proudgrampa

    prouddaughter was active in gymnastics as a teen, and I was ALWAYS suspicious of the males who were involved in the sport. Interactions between some of the girls and their coaches were just creepy.

    So, no. This story does not surprise me and I am glad that assholes like these are being found out and put away.

  • BigCSouthside

    This kind of shit is why I am a progressive in favor of the death penalty

    • JaveyDay

      Too many innocent people have been executed for crimes they did not commit. I can never be in favor of the death penalty.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Well, life with no possibility of parole. There are some people who should NOT be walking on the same streets we use.

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          And since there’s no cure for pedophilia, I don’t think they should be let out of the mental institution either. “Rights” or no “rights,” I don’t want that shit in my neighborhood. Totally not the same as what’s called the “Romeo & Juliet” legal scenarios, where you have a boy and a girl dating at 15 and 14, respectively, but then the boy reaches age of majority first and gets charged with statutory rape because he and his 15-year-old girlfriend both lost their virginity at junior prom. The 16-year-old boy isn’t a pedophile; he’s a casualty of a technicality that we haven’t figured out how to mitigate in the legal sense yet. But a creep like Nassar or Moore, or any of those guys you see with their mug shots plastered up at the post office, they all belong locked up in a facility for life. Period.

          • FlownΩver
          • Marion in Savannah

            Yes. THIS.

          • Child molesting, not pedophilia. I find young adult female human athletes attractive, but I don’t attack them. It’s not the desire that’s a problem, it’s the behavior. A proven child molester is someone who has established that he (or she) will not or can not control himself, and will exploit when given a chance. I think conflating the two reinforces the cultural idea that adults can’t control their behavior. I learned this in church as a kid, and had to unlearn it on my own.

            Life without parole.

            I sometime want to throw somebody down the stairs, but I haven’t yet.

            State violence is tolerable when it’s a response to an emergency situation (army invasion, armed robbery, etc.) and no other options are available. No need for it once somebody is in custody and convicted.

      • amrak63

        I turned against the death penalty for exactly the same reason as JD.

      • BigCSouthside

        Not necessarily current state, but I agree with it in principle. You fuck up enough innocent people’s lives intentionally and maliciously, you don’t get to live anymore.

        • JaveyDay

          They get to live in a box for the rest of their lives contemplating what they did. The state loses any pretense of a moral high ground when it commits murder, even if you believe that murder is justified.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    The guy was WITNESSED with his fingers in a girl’s vagina?? WTF? Men were just allowed to walk in while a girl was undergoing a “medical treatment” that involved another man putting his fingers inside her vagina?
    Geddert needs to lose his job ASAP and he should also be on trial.
    NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL OR ACCEPTABLE.
    Jesus fucking Christ.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Just an idea – if a girl needs a medical treatment that requires fingers in her vagina (none comes immediately to mind, but I am no gynecologist), let’s have a protocol in place where we explain that to her parents and protect her and justify what exactly the medical necessity is.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        And have at minimum a female nurse present. And not one who works for the doctor OR his employer, either.

      • Thiazin Red

        There would literally never be a reason for them to do this. He would never have cause to examine a girl’s genitals.

        We have laws saying that a male gyno giving an exam to an adult women needs to have another woman in the room.

      • jenny_whyme

        Where were the parents when she was getting treatment?

        I was always in the room when my kid was going to the doctor for the sniffles.

        (My daughter is a gymnast. Never an elite gymnast.)

    • William
    • Bub the very stable zombie

      Geddert needs to be sleeping on a slab “of votes.”

    • PlutoAnimus

      Sports is just an excuse for abuse.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Not once was it “Um…are you fingering that child?!”

      FFS

  • Ωbjectifier

    What about these two? Didn’t they pretty much run USA gymnastics for years?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/390cd44a416ed8e5b8c208ac4cfa7f79a81439461692320c9cf9b7de8b3e1802.jpg

    • Gayer Than Thou

      I have always suspected that’s a can of worms that the U.S. Gymnastics Association doesn’t want to open.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “Strangely, this story is getting far less coverage than the NFL playoffs. That might say something about our national values, huh?”

    NO FUCKING KIDDING. I had seen the odd story about this and figured it was 3 or 4 victims (which is still 3 or 4 too many), but ye gods – 120-140 (or more)

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    What kind of monster parents don’t believe a 12-year-old who tells them she’s being molested? I’m guessing “monster parents who think their kid is the next Simone Biles and are counting on her success allowing them to retire in luxury.”
    I hope she makes it HUGE and gives them nothing.

    • Cock Blockula

      I knew a family who was grooming their youngest for Olympic gymnastics. The mother traveled around with her other two daughters (presumably gymnastics wash-outs) in tow, all over the place. They were all home-schooled in a car while traveling. That was bad enough. I hope those girls were not subjected to any kind of disgusting abuse from such as this, but my faith in humanity is almost non-existent now.

    • goonemeritus

      My wife is a CPS worker, invariable the molested child isn’t believed by the non-perpetrating parent. In some cases these denials are probably made for self-protection. In other cases willful blindness is at work.

    • doktorzoom

      As far as I can tell, I don’t think Kyle Stephens was a gymnast; she was the daughter of a family friend. NBC News reports that Stephens believes Nassar was also responsible for her father’s death. He killed himself after he belatedly came to believe she was telling the truth.

  • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

    The more I see of this Sandusky sickness and also too children bashing their heads in on the gridiron, the more I’m convinced that competitive sportsball and other team training things should just be outright banned for anyone under the age of 18.

    Ban child beauty pageants too. Let kids be kids.

    • MynameisBlarney

      This.
      I was trying to articulate something similar, but you nailed it.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I played sports as a girl. Basketball, soccer, and track and field. It was tremendously empowering.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Just gotta keep the sick fucks from getting into positions of authority in these sports programs.

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          Would a preemptive psych eval screening prior to employment be of good use?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Couldn’t hurt I guess.
            Something has to be done, and that’s as good a place to start as any.

          • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

            Not really. For one, the real nasty ones know how to beat the exam. And since at the high school level and below, most of these positions are unpaid volunteer positions it’s a hard sell to lay out the dough when it may not actually do any more in weeding out the bad ones than a standard fingerprint and background check.

          • Ms. MLG on Maui

            There are always going to be sexual predators in the world. That’s a sad fact of humanity. What we can do is create a world in which those abusers do not have all the advantages. They rely on a world that does not trust or believe women and children. They rely on the good ol’ boy network to protect them. And it does. We can change those things.

          • Yeah, the background checks would help, by catching those who had already been caught somewhere. But these guys are master manipulators, so psych tests aren’t likely to go anywhere. They know how to appear to be somebody they’re not.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Absolutely. But girls playing sports was pretty revolutionary in the 70’s and 80’s. Girls being strong athletes is a good thing.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          I was lucky. My coaches were good people. And they truly wanted their girls to be strong.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I think where the problem comes is usually from the adults, who can’t stop tying the performance of their kids or “their” teams to some dream they had of their own success. If parents or other adults are involved at all in teams it should be as transportation and cheer sections, providers of food and drink, and nothing else. Let the teams be coached by older kids, let them make their own schedules and play their own way. Time enough to learn fundamentals and get into competition when they’re older. If adults would get out of Little League the kids could actually enjoy it; as it currently stands WAY too many kids get belittled, benched, and discouraged WAY too early to determine any actual potential they might have.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        Agree about the parents. I remember well a case in Massachusetts where a father actually killed a hockey ref who he thought made a “bad call” on his kid. Fool’s ball, however, is just way too dangerous for developing brains, period. It’s literally human demolition derby. School should be for using your brain, not destroying it.

      • Oblios_Cap

        Having coached city league baseball for four years, I can definitively state that I would have done it longer except I got tired of dealing with fucking parents, especially the ones who insisted their little snowflake should not have to run laps for violating rules (What? are you afraid he might get into shape?) or should start every game no matter mediocre a player he was or if he missed all the practices that week. I took the group from Little League through Junior Major and walked away.

        • Arolpin

          I was helping out with our youth wrestling program, but I stepped away because my kids were trying to use me against the other coaches. I told them that if they had to run laps (or trenches, which they really hate) it was for a good reason. Now that I’m not at practice, they run the damn trenches and don’t whine.

          I still step in if one of the coaches has to work late, but I would be really pissed if a parent came to me with such a bullshit complaint.

          I have stood there and let a (former-NFL linebacker) parent yell at me for having his 5th-grade son wrestle a 7th-grader, because I should have said no, even though his son wanted to, and the other kid was the only kid close in weight (not a lot of 180lb, 5′ 11″ tall 5th graders in my area). I’ve also let parents yell because their son was crying after losing a match, which I felt was stupid (lots of kids cry after losing a wrestling match). I try not to question the coaches because I know they are doing their best, but I almost pulled one son from baseball because of one of the coaches kids and the way the coach/kid interaction ruined a good team. Luckily, they are on the other team now (and the son appears to have pulled his head out of his ass).

    • PlutoAnimus

      A friend once told me his knees were ruined because he had been the high school quarterback.

      Childrens’ bodies eagerly offered by their parents to the insatiable maw of sports, where vast empires await their latest batch of disposable heroes.

      Revolting.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        My mother didn’t want my brother to play fool’s ball but got roped into it by peer pressure and guilt. The only boys who weren’t in fool’s ball were the nerds and outcasts. She blames herself already for being married to abusive, neglectful fuckwad father (battered-wife syndrome), and the last thing she wanted was for my brother to feel unwanted or bullied in the school setting too. He did end up making lifelong friends, but the price paid for that was concussions and now a viral-infection disorder that was most likely picked up by rolling around on a muddy field full of goose crap and chemical runoff from the power plant.

        Devil’s bargain: had he not played varsity fool’s ball, he probably wouldn’t have gone to college because he would have been an “uncool” loner with no male role model and maybe committed suicide. Instead he still has no male role model, but does have a college degree and a job — that he might not be able to do, because fool’s ball got him injured and sick.

        None of this might have happened if America didn’t have such a dickish macho culture that sanctions bullying of the “weak.” Whether that’s nerdy kids who don’t play fool’s ball, or abusive husbands who gaslight their wives to the point of Stockholm syndrome.

        • I belonged to the gymnastics and weightlifting clubs in high school (because there weren’t local leagues for either at the time), back in the last millennium. No competitions, no contests. A school could do dancing, long distance running, yoga, martial arts*, and any number of physical activities, suitable for nerds and other non-competitors. They can be coed, too, if they’re not competitive.

          We can teach kids to have fun and stay active without being clobbered in dangerous sports, and mentally warped by being tribal heroes by proxy

          * I’ve trained in martial arts for most of my life, and have never felt the urge to compete. It’s not all cage fighting.

    • goonemeritus

      Can we still bet on baby racing in your brave new world, because that is just good clean fun.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      The beauty pageants are the worst. I wonder how honey boo boo is going to turn out…

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Totally useless and just teach your girl her worth lies in being an ornament. And what kind of man would want to be involved in being a judge other than a pedo?

  • WomanInThePersistence

    JfC. 140 children? JFC.

    • PubOption

      Not good enough for first place, Jimmy Savile had about 500 victims. Were the gymnastics authorities and Michigan State hoping for a new record from Nasser?

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Gee, I wonder how the MSU women’s gymnastics teams did over the course of his employment? Anyone think the answer might be “well enough that we pulled a Penn State and just refused to see what was going on”?

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      He was allowed to continue to treat patients for 16 months while under criminal investigation by MSU’s police department for sexual assault. The university’s mealy-mouthed justification was that they conducted a Title IX investigation and had cleared him of the allegations.

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        So when does Betsy Wetsy get voted up against the wall?

  • Bub the very stable zombie

    “Mindful of the power he wields?!?? MINDFUL OF THE POWER HE WIELDS??!!??!??

    Okay, okay…FUCK! SON OF A BITCHING fucken FUCK!!! Jesus fucking CHRIST, what is WRONG with these people!!!

    Okay, calm down, calm down…deep breaths, deep breaths…Don’t want to get the banhammer, don’t want to get the banhammer…

    • ImGoingBacon

      This is just begging for an ESPN expose, or any other news gathering/reporting organization for that matter.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      You are a dear person. And this is a horrifying story.

      • Bub the very stable zombie

        That’s very kind of you, WiTP. But you might not think so if you could see the violent fantasies that are playing themselves out in my head right now.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Do you think I’ve never fantasized about doing awful things to people? Do you think that I’m so fucking nice?

          If so, you are mistaken.

          • eggs ackly-wright

            Fuck nice anymore.

          • Jonny On Maui
          • WomanInThePersistence

            I so love MASH!

          • Bub the very stable zombie

            Hmmm. Point taken. So how would you like to pay a visit to Gebbert with me?
            :-)

        • eggs ackly-wright

          This is the best version of this song I’ve seen, Mr. Zombie
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81c5ko2GGzg

  • Baconzgood

    I can’t even….rage building..blood boiling…I THINK I’M GOING TO EXPLODE!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0fc1745cb0561f330ac866c2f800fa2ec3289ffef2a892cda952c9251ca390b6.gif

  • Jonny On Maui

    Go on not believing your children America. It’s working so well for you…

    • WomanInThePersistence

      *weeps*

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    this is on CNN.com this morning (trump saying a curse is top story, a UNITED STATES OLYMPIC TEAM [ETA STAFF] MEMBER abusing over 100 children, regulated to the bottom.

    Anyway, this young lady and those like her have more courage and heart than I ever will. I love the quote there.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b9ca6c6b3e47dbf3e0a8adc7a3f80f101afb3805e7d4310e755a84f081b92fe2.png

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    NFL playoffs? Hell, people are too busy arguing about Aziz Ansari to care about Nassar…

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    Has “judge” Moore commented on this story yet?

    • Bub the very stable zombie

      Probably has been sending Nassar fan mail, the worthless fuck.

    • therblig

      “I’d like to get my hands on this case.” – Roy Moore (R-Oblivion)

    • Bigly smart jesterpunk

      He did say he wants to hire everyone involved.

  • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

    I’m getting really fucking tired of hearing these stories. Can the government not pull sports funding for these schools if it gets out that they were covering up this kind of abuse? (Apologies if I am ignorant of how college funding works in the USA…) Everyone who knew about this and did nothing to stop it should go to prison too.

    • Bigly smart jesterpunk

      They will never do that because sports is a religion in the US and one of the only things a lot of people care about with schools. Look at Penn State and how many people are mad at the VICTIMS for the school being sanctioned.

      • amrak63
      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        Yup, arts funding is usually the first thing to get axed in “budget cuts,” but go anywhere near fool’s ball and there’ll be hell to pay.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      an clever halfway decent news reporter would be submitting FOIA requests to see if the college knew and/or paid out settlements. (I’m almost CERTAIN they probably have).

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      College sports are typically self-funded or funded through boosters and non-government revenues. And gymnastics is a non-revenue sport that receives little university funding – the running commentary is that, at the Division I level at least, football and men’s basketball are the prime sources of funding for everything else in the athletics department.

  • Sean Jungian

    You have an error that the victims are suing the University of Michigan but all other references are to Michigan State University.

    As a Spartan alumnus I’d love to put some blame on UM but I’m afraid this is all ours.

    • amrak63

      Come to think of it, the historical Spartans weren’t too easy on their kids, either.

      • Oblios_Cap

        They didn’t tend to live long enough to complain.

    • doktorzoom

      Yep, fixed, and sorry.

  • msanthropesmr

    I don’t like this world. Can we try again and start over?

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      I blame Pandora.

      • amrak63

        What music service do you prefer instead?

        • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

          Limewire?

          • puredog

            But for the occasional virus, Limewire was swell.

      • Teecha

        Hey. Pandora was tricked into opening her wedding present. Why would you give someone a present for their wedding and then tell them they couldn’t open it?

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          God? “Here’s these delicious looking apples that will give you knowledge…but DON’T EAT THEM!”

          • Aren’t both those stories basically the same? “The world is shit, let’s blame a woman”

    • Jonny On Maui

      I think Gaia is about ready to hit the reset button. In geologic time of course…

  • amrak63

    As with Moore, here’s the schoolgirl Nassar deserves:

    https://i.imgur.com/8nTZpQr.jpg

    Yeah, I’m PO’d.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    I just choked on a piece of chicken watching this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jOBtUh5Yow

    • Machnethylsteinerbincolabird

      Is that Namibia or NAMBLA?

      • janecita

        NAMBIA!

  • OutOfOrbit

    polly a republican i bet

  • Bobo the Dork Boy

    Fuck. That’s all I got.

  • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

    Women’s gymnastics, especially at the highest levels, is way too cult-like. After the U.S. finished 4th at the Sydney Olympics (later revised to a bronze medal after China was found to have entered an underage competitor), USA Gymnastics completely revised their program in the name of winning more medals. In the process, they created a horribly toxic environment where competitors were afraid of showing even the slightest bit of weakness – competitors hid injuries, often refused to eat meals because they feared being evaluated on their weight, and were isolated (in Dvora Myers book The End of The Perfect 10, she quotes more than one gymnast or coach who describes the national training center as a “black hole” where athletes could seldom reach their parents).
    Such an insular, survival of the fittest world is ripe for the abuses of a man like Nassar.

    • amrak63

      Da fuq? I did NOT know this.

      • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

        Oh, yeah. Myers did a longform piece on Deadspin a few months back about all of the shit she heard about – one was that there were only 2 pay phones in the entire center for athletes to use. And even as cell phones became more common, the center was located in a dead zone where if you were lucky, you could stand on the top of the lifeguard tower at the swimming pool at midnight and maybe get reception.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Wasn’t it basically built on the same concept as that Coroli guy, the man who trained Nadia Komenich (can’t remember)? The Eastern European model that was unbelievably brutal.

      • shastakoala

        Didn’t he eventually coach the American team?

      • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

        Karoli’s methods were sidelined after Sydney. He was relieved of direct coaching and place in a more broad position (including supervision of the National Training Center). They also moved away from basing Olympic qualifications on performances at Olympic Trials and using a “panel” that required potential competitors to train monthly at the center.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Nadia was also sexually abused at a young age by Dictator Ceausescu, and his youngest son.

  • beingreleased

    OT: It’s possible that Lindsey Graham isn’t the sharpest tool Trump has used:
    https://twitter.com/edatpost/status/953321208094879744

    • Oblios_Cap

      Bless his heart.

    • The Wanderer

      Graham waffles so much you’d think he was from Belgium.

  • Bitter Scribe

    This guy may be the most prolific sexual abuser of young female athletes to come to light (so far), but he’s by no means the only one. This book, which came out more than 20 years ago, documented sexual abuse as well as other outrages visited on elite gymnasts and figure skaters.

    Funny how people subject young girls to abuse, sexual and otherwise, that they might think twice about trying on a 6 foot 3, 260-pound linebacker.

    • OutOfOrbit

      that linebacker wasn’t always that big

  • janecita

    Her parents “didn’t believe her,” that line broke my heart. If one of my kids came up to me and told me that a teacher/coach/doctor/Pope/father/cop, etc, etc had abused them I would believe my child.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      That’s because you are a decent person. Who loves their children.

    • OutOfOrbit

      those parents may have seen a different [angle] IYKWIM

      • amrak63

        Would those be the right angles of certain rectangles made of green paper?

        • OutOfOrbit

          i was thinking mebbee the parents were thinking that complaining about the abuse would harm their daughter’s … future in gymnastics

    • Robbertjan Brandenburg

      I would really feel sad for my son growing up without a father because I was doing time for first degree murder.

      • amrak63

        That assumes the jury would convict you.

        • Robbertjan Brandenburg

          We don’t have a jury here.

          • amrak63

            Oh, right, you live in the Netherlands.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Yeah and I probably would not be doing much time but first degree murder is first degree murder.

          • puredog

            I’ve never practiced in such a place, but there are jurisdictions where the jury decides the sentence (I think Texas is one such). Given the jury’s right to nullification, I wonder if it would be possible in such a jurisdiction that a, say, Nassar-murderer could be convicted of murder and then given a prison term of zero years?

          • Sadly, the outcomes would be linked to ethnicity of all concerned.

        • janecita

          Stupid Europeans, and their laws:-(

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I think you might have a valid defence.

    • Oblios_Cap

      That struck me as strange, too. were they that invested in having her perform in the Olympics that they were willing to look the other way?

      • DrBigHead

        Sure as hell sounds like it.

      • C4TWOMAN

        And yet somehow can’t see a traumatized person is less likely to preform at optimum efficiency? If we’re going to be that cold blooded about it…

        • Courser_Resistance

          They’re kids and will do what they’re told, emotional stability be damned. These kids KNOW that they have no other options and everyone pumps them up how IMPORTANT it is for mom and dad

          • Still, a distraction is a distraction.

      • Cornelius Fussbudget

        I’ve met a couple of these aspiring Olympians and their parents. I’m not convinced any of it is truly for the benefit of the children. They already sacrifice their children’s academic and social development on the altar of Sports. Their sexuality is just one more log on the fire, isn’t it?

        • Cock Blockula

          Yep, I’ve met one too. Carted her children around and home-schooled them while driving from one competition or lesson to another. I can see where she would have turned a blind eye to any sexual abuse in pursuit of Olympic glory.

        • proudgrampa

          Just like the parents in virtually any sport. The kids just wanna have fun and the parents ruin it for them.

      • Ninja0980

        Sad to say yes.
        Either they are reliving their childhood through their kids or they want $$$, the wellbeing of their kids be damned.

      • doktorzoom

        As I said above, it appears Kyle Stephens wasn’t a gymnast, even — just the daughter of friends who apparently were unable to believe he’d do that. I could be wrong, though.

        • Oblios_Cap

          Reading comprehension. How does it work? Apparently I don’t know.

          • doktorzoom

            Not a problem — I originally assumed she was a gymnast, too, but none of the reporting says anything about connections to sports. It’s possible she was, but my limited googling didn’t find anything about her outside her testimony yesterday.

    • NastyBossetti

      You have to, right? How do you not believe your 12-year-old when they tell you something like that?

      • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

        Some people see only what they want to see when stars get in their eyes. And if they see that their child is a meal ticket, they will gladly and blithely ignore anything that would disrupt that process.

    • DrBigHead

      Shows the power of the promise of fame and fortune.

      • janecita

        Some people care more about money, than they do about their own flesh and blood.

        • Courser_Resistance

          Ding! Ding! Ding!

      • doktorzoom

        In the case of Kyle Stephens, as far as I can tell, she wasn’t a gymnast–just the daughter of a friend of Nassar. But their good friend Larry would never do anything like that. Only reference to her name I’m seeing is from today’s testimony.

        • DrBigHead

          Thanks for the clarification, Dok.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Thing is it doesn’t matter if she was lying.
      If she was telling the truth you need to intervene to protect her.
      If she was lying you need to intervene with therapy to find out why.

      AND change physicians just in case.
      FFS,

      • Ms. MLG on Maui

        Common fucking sense!

        • amrak63

          Which, alas, is not, and never has been, all that common.

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      • janecita

        Exactly!

    • Courser_Resistance

      Money
      Money
      Money
      Money

      I hate to say it but parents have been siphoning off their talented kids since forever.

    • SadDemInTex

      I had a friend who was abused by her cello teacher in private lessons when she was in high school. Her mother didn’t believe her…..but after much begging consented to be present in the room at the lessons (which did the trick of stopping the abuse…although the teacher became more critical and discouraging which made my friend decide not to become a professional musician even though she was very talented. And this is the kind of power that Geddert has over the girls in elite gymnastics. He can destroy their confidence so easily. Performance is 90% psychological).

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
  • TJ Barke

    Stop the world, please, I’d like to get off…

  • elviouslyqueer

    “I have no animosity toward anyone. I just want healing. … We need to move forward in a sense of growth and healing and I pray (for) that.”

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is where “sending thoughts and prayers” just jumped clean over the shark, sailed about a mile and a half downstream, and slammed headfirst into a brick retaining wall.

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      Translation, “I’m going to do it again, but next time I won’t get caught.” Also “Jeebus forgave me.”

  • OrG

    The NFL’s having playoffs?

    • Jonny On Maui

      aka, The Second Season…

  • Anna Rompage

    Maybe Nassar could run for senate as a republican once he’s out of prison, as that crowd doesn’t really see anything wrong with a white man taking what he wants from adolescent girls…

  • Cock Blockula

    Many years ago, my second job was working for Company XYZ. My manager and I (both female) were hired around the same time, and we both had to submit to a physical (all employees were). In addition to the height, weight, blood pressure, etc., etc., we were both subjected to a breast exam. In addition, he told us both that we had “lumps” in our breasts that would need further examination and mammograms. My manager got very worried about the lumps that this doctor “found” and got a mammogram to assuage her fears. I had recently been to my gyn, and I blew off his diagnosis.

    We found out later that the doctor was not supposed to administer breast exams. My manager raised a stink about it to our male management. This was back in the 80s, so everyone except us, I’m sure, had a good laugh over it when we weren’t around. Har-Har, that doctor got to feel them up…

    • amrak63

      Speaking as an Empeckered-American, I do NOT understand these guys. I guess I was just raised better?

      • Cock Blockula

        Thank you for being one of the good’uns… my manager felt especially violated. I think she had suffered some abuse or trauma previously and felt very angry and helpless when blown off by the management.

        • C4TWOMAN

          She also felt responsible for your safety…as she should. Nothing make me rage faster when someone I mentored or helped is exploited because of the connection.

      • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

        Positions of authority are where character is tested – some fail the test because the power goes to their head (and other body parts).

  • Jgb979

    This could be comparable to the Sandusky case when applicable to Michigan state.

    There are allegations the college knew as early as 1997. He’s been with team USA since 1986

  • NastyBossetti

    I’m sure all his victims are very relieved that he feels no animosity toward them. How magnanimous of him.

    • NotReallyHere

      That comment made me want to:
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0087002fcc9b86fbf2d6cf679f0c42c6527bd07fc9c6b8e4648daf0b00ef8c73.gif

      Do I have to say with votes? Because I don’t want to.

    • OutOfOrbit

      there is a roomer that kiddy abusers donut fair well behind walls

      • amrak63

        Madoka forgive me that I’m liking that idea right now.

    • Ms. MLG on Maui

      He is STILL trying to shame his victims. Unbelievable.

      • amrak63

        Douchebaggus Maximus.

      • NastyBossetti

        “If you hadn’t told anyone, I wouldn’t be in this position. But I forgive you, generous-of-heart guy that I am!”

        • amrak63

          I would say what I’d like to forgive him with, but I fear Ye Bannmjolnir.

      • Mentally Stable Ron

        All TOO believable. He still doesn’t think he did anything wrong.

  • I want to put by precious little girl into a shield and send her off to Themyscira. But I guess I’ll have to tell her to be aware of creepy perverts and try to educate and equip her as best I can to protect herself. And believe her if she ever comes to me and tells me someone is abusing her.

    Men suck.

    • OutOfOrbit

      yes we do, generally

    • Mentally Stable Ron

      We made sure ours knew to be careful, and that they would be believed if they told us something had. Never did, happily, but even with them both responsible adults I worry.

  • geoffalnutt

    140 girls in 1 minute 17 seconds! It’s an Olympic event now under Trump. That was his personal best, too.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    It’s everywhere that there are children in this position, folks. My daughter was a competitive figure skater in the 00s and that is all I will (or feel I can) say.

    • OutOfOrbit

      that is enough

  • Ms. MLG on Maui

    I’m happy to say it, Dok. FUCK THE PATRIARCHY. Fuck it’s dirty tricks. Fuck the centuries of convincing victims they should silently bear the shame of what their abusers do to them. Fuck their dirty lies. Fuck the concept that sports and men’s careers are more important than human lives, and children’s safety. Most of all, fuck this broken, sick, entitled fuck’s “healing”.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    The “infrastructure of enablers” is a very serious problem, and it’s one that pervades the world of big time sports, who care only about winning and not how you go about winning.

    • Jonny On Maui

      Politics too…

    • Sunhead

      who care only about winning and not how you go about winning

      This.
      Anything that carries a “By any means necessary” tag line.

    • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

      And I am sure, child beauty pageants and any sport where competition is high and parents can be pretty oblivious in their ambitions for their offspring.

  • C4TWOMAN

    Just throw a can of [redacted] and a [redacted] and light him up…with votes.

    When I was a kid I had a physician attempt to groom me…he’d try to engage me like a creepy friendly adult, but I just started at him with the “WTF are you even doing?” look. It wasn’t like my dentist who was genuinely a nice guy with kids.

    Nothing horrible ever happened, but this day I feel more comfortable with dentists than medical doctors.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      When I was 15, I was raped by a couple of guys. Fuck this guy. With votes.

      • C4TWOMAN

        I like the can of petrol idea….that is full of votes. especially if you light it. Lots and lots of flaming…votes.

      • OutOfOrbit

        he will get his just deserts behind walls

      • chicken thief

        I hope justice prevailed.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Not so much.

          • chicken thief

            sorry…

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba
        • therblig

          needs moar rust

          • Mentally Stable Ron

            Plated zinc. They don’t rust.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          Ah, so that’s the famous garden weasel.

      • Ms. MLG on Maui

        I was raped at 18. Then again at 21. I didn’t tell a single soul until I was 35 years old.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          It took me years to deal with it. And you have my most sincere sympathy. *lifts glass of chardonnay in a western direction* You are my sister.

          • Ms. MLG on Maui

            There are too many of us, sister. It needs to stop.

          • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

            Hugs for both of you. I’m so sorry.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Yes. It does.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          Something awful me too. It’s strange how it works- the older I get, the harder it is to talk about it.
          But I refused to ever leave my young daughter alone with a man other than her dad or her stepfather. Ever.

          • Ms. MLG on Maui

            I’m so sorry. And I think your decision regarding your daughter is a solid one.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            I’m sorry that happened, but at least you can be a shield for your daughter. Not that lessens your experience in any way.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          I’m sorry that happened and you could not tell anyone.

      • Fire and Fury Demme

        I’m so sorry.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        That sucks, I’m so sorry that happened to you.

  • FZsdaughter

    These fucks can’t wait to “move forward”. Hey, I said sorry, can I just have my job back now please! Fuck what is taking so long, I said sorry!!!! FACK they should all be put on the most remote, irradiated South Pacific island together, watching the last helicopter leave for ever.

    • The Wanderer

      Bikini and Eniwetok. Great scenic sites.

      Sadly, Ogosawara-jima is still off-limits to everyone but militant vegans who want to convince the kaiju to swear off meat. They must have a wonderful time, because they never come back.

      • Wackyland Radio Resistor

        Daaaaamn. And Poppy Bush was the only one to escape? History is so cool and too, also horrifying

    • C4TWOMAN

      I know the perfect place!
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilha_da_Queimada_Grande
      Its not remote, just off the coast of Brazil, but as you can see, it’s an exciting place!

      • Wackyland Radio Resistor

        Obviously, the Brazilian Navy is training the snakes.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    Holy shit the AIVD (our NSA) just shared a bit of their Christmas puzzle they send out each year to get the brightest and it is astonishing.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9c81a273ee949abde52ec0ec63a7c8b757e2b4c95dd028da0be291fc4d7895c.png

    Translation : Karel is in Amsterdam. Where is Henk?

    Solution: Monopoly. If you would throw the dices like this Karel would be in Amsterdam and Henk in Rotterdam. Some people solved this Goddammit, now I feel really dumb and at the same time have deep respect for our agents.

    Here is the rest in case you are interested.
    https://www.aivd.nl/onderwerpen/informatiebeveiliging/documenten/publicaties/2017/12/12/aivd-kerstpuzzel-2017-opgaven-en-antwoordformulier

    • therblig
    • Raan

      On a Nationstates forum I used to frequent in my pre-Wonkette days, I came up with a code that used a book as the key, and the answer was how many places away in the alphabet each letter of the message was from the letters in the book.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        impressive. saw the other questions? If you need help translating I am here.

  • Gayer Than Thou
    • Bigly smart jesterpunk

      Can the judge throw that out?

      • OutOfOrbit

        yes

    • OutOfOrbit

      a subpoena can reverse that

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      A NDA is a contract. A contract to cover up a criminal act is void on its face.

    • Timothy Watson

      That settlement NDA is supposedly void under California law according to one report I saw.

    • Wackyland Radio Resistor

      I’ve never met the woman, but Chrissie Tiegen seems like an all-around delightful person.

    • goonemeritus

      USA Gymnastics would be showering with a toaster if they ever brought that to court.

    • Michael R
    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Testify, then force them to come get it. Just because she signed an NDA doesn’t mean it can — or will — be enforced.

      • Shan

        Can an NDA even apply to criminal activity?

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          No.

        • Beelzebubba

          Actually it can, but only if it’s an agreement with the victim. (McKayla couldn’t sign an NDA calling for her to be silent about somebody else being abused.) In general, these types of agreements are enforceable. That’s how Trump is able to repeatedly skate away from his crimes.
          USA Gymnastics would be facing a PR debacle if they did try to enforce it, of course, but legally, they could do so.

    • Beelzebubba

      An 8% penalty. Not bad, but probably not worth it given what’s going to happen to the guy anyhow.

    • HarpyLibtart

      Chrissy Teigen is a bloody treasure, I have so much respect for that woman.

  • Wackyland Radio Resistor

    Considering how many gymnastics clubs there are in this country, in even the smallest towns, it’s a big deal that these gymnasts are coming forward and are (finally) being believed. Kids get started in gymnastics really, really young, and hopefully this will be a wake up call for parents to believe their daughters (and sons) when they tell them their coach did something wrong. I’m not saying gymnastics coaches, by nature, are pervy, just that it’s a ripe opportunity for perverts when they’re surrounded by ambitious little girls and their parents, with lots and lots and lots of time for grooming from a young age.

    • Bigly smart jesterpunk

      That is part of the problems with sports and our education system, for a lot of people it’s one of the few ways to try and have a better life. So everyone involved covers it up so they can continue with sports. It’s disgusting and like you said ripe for abuse.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I did competition level dressagey equestrian stuff (you really do have to be Ann Romney or have someone like her to sponsor to compete at the higher levels)
        Any Olympic level sport requires an insane level of money, time, commitment and physical pain. Get tired of the abuse from a top coach and there are 10 eager kids with their parents waiting to take your place. And the people who have actually reached the rarefied heights of competition can seem like gods.

        • stablegeniusahughes798

          Why is it that these “great” coaches and trainers think verbal and psychological abuse as the only way to get results from athletes?

          • Rebel Scum with permit

            Because being patient takes effort and self control. I had one teacher who wasn’t a screamer, but had a real talent for ugly remarks and vicious sarcasm. She kept losing students and having to change barns, and couldn’t understand why.

          • stablegeniusahughes798

            I bet the trainer didn’t treat the horses that way. Or maybe she did. I have never understood people in positions of power who rule by fear. In the long run, it doesn’t motivate, and it plays hell with morale.
            I don’t know about you, maybe you’re lucky….but have you ever boarded at a stable that was just a gossip factory? The last place I rode at I quit because everybody was stabbing everybody in the back all the time. And you know if they’re talking about other folks behind their backs, you know that they’re talking behind yours, too.

          • Rebel Scum with permit

            There was that too – I remember some gossip about a particular famous trainer “and his latest little boy toy”. Yeeesh. Jealous much?

    • C4TWOMAN

      It’s not the sport, really, but any unregulated space where they can take opportunities and not expect consequences.
      Communities like skeptics and scifi conventions are learning this the hard way: yeah, if seems like a hassle to have a code of conduct and clear complaint procedures, but it’s a allot worse when the problem festers for years and blows up into a big PR fiasco.

      And one suspects, the only people objecting are the ones protecting predators….

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        There was no code of conduct at CES this year. Techbro douchecanoes everywhere cheered. Especially because this glaring and intentional oversight didn’t get one fragment of the attention that it really deserved.

    • Teecha

      You’re right. Perverts look for opportunities to abuse their victims. So it’s not that the sport/activity attracts them, it’s the access to their victims.

      Not only do they hurt their victims, but a side effect is that really nice people (often men) are suspected of not being quite right because they want to work with kids. Which leads people to stop volunteering like with youth groups, scouts, guides, sports, arts etc, so young people have fewer opportunities.

  • OT: I just said goodbye to my 2006 Kia Spectra. Sigh. Hands-down the best car I ever had. 227,000+ miles on it, and still had the original clutch, because I FUCKING RULE. It was really difficult to let go of it, but it was rusting out underneath.

    • puredog

      You one a them shifters? Me too. When I decided to get rid of my 1999 Subaru Legacy wagon with 150K miles on it, I lucked into a 2007 of the same, stick, with 40K miles on it, for a net outlay of about $7500. Schweet.

      • Arolpin

        My previous car (2001 Hyundai Genesis Coupe) was the only automatic transmission car I had ever owned. There were issues with the stick shift in the first year of that car, and living in NJ I figured it would be nice to just leave it in drive and creep along in traffic. I liked the car a lot, but never loved it.
        My current car is one of only a handful of models in the world that doesn’t offer an automatic transmission (Ford Focus RS), and even last Friday where my 22 mile commute took 97 minutes, it will still worth it to be able to shift gears when the traffic would ease for 300′ or so.

        • Courser_Resistance

          Oh, heavy traffic is the only time I hate my 5-speed truck. It’s only a four-banger, but I get awesome performance with the manual transmission. But my left leg cramps up after about 20 mins,

          • Arolpin

            Luckily my RS is severely overpowered, so I can leave it in 2nd and creep along most of the time, it’s just when traffic completely stops that I have to downshift. With an automatic, I don’t even use the brakes most of the time, I just use the flappy-paddles to downshift when traffic slows, and only use the brakes if it’s completely stopped. I’m sure it confuses the person following when I’m the only one without my brake-lights being illuminated.

          • Courser_Resistance

            If traffic’s creeping, I can leave it in 2nd, and just disengage and re-engage the clutch and not touch the brakes for miles. I can start from 2nd (like most trucks) if I’m not on a grade.

        • stablegeniusahughes798

          Been trying to get Mr. 798 to have a look at one of them, and to have another look at the GTI. Because they’re fast, of course. His current car is a ’97 Geo Prism with 300K+ miles on it, and the original automatic transmission.

    • Wackyland Radio Resistor

      Yay! I had a 2001 Subaru Forester with 226,000 miles on it and the original clutch too! We are awesome people and everyone should compliment us on being excellent drivers!

      • How many drivers can even drive a stick anymore???

        • PubOption

          Probably most not-Americans.

          • Yup. I’m a musician, and used to play in the Bermuda Philharmonic, and so spent a lot of time there. I was amazed at the tiny cars they drive, all of them stick shifts, and HOW FUCKING FAST THEY DRIVE THROUGH THOSE FUCKING ROUNDABOUTS. Holy crap. The roads there are so narrow.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            At least you can keep the little bitty cars clean. I’m pretty sure they are dishwasher safe.

          • Teecha

            Yup

        • Shan
        • weejee

          Or perhaps how many who are under 50.

          • PubOption

            True. I’m soon to be 62 and drive a manual Volvo C30.

        • Mentally Stable Ron

          3-speed with and without synchros, 4-speed, 5-speed, 8-speed split shift. Now that my knee works again I might finally get around to learning to drive a semi.

        • Jennaratrix

          ::raises hand:: And I’m under 50 (barely).

        • Teecha

          I’d never driven an automatic until I left Europe. Before I came here, I only knew one person who had an automatic, and he didn’t have any legs below the knee, or hands with fingers.

        • NastyBossetti

          It’s how my parents taught me. They wouldn’t let me drive the automatic until I learned to drive the stick. A few years ago, MrBossetti and I bought a manual, and I had to teach him how to use it.

        • theCryptofishist

          I have done it, but, alas, it is gone forever. It was fun. Although, I wouldn’t want to do it in San Francisco, and parts of Berkeley.

        • divegrl

          Me! VROOMVROOM….

          • Ms. MLG on Maui

            Me too and I miss it so much! My hand still goes for the stick all the time.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          I taught myself when I was 19. I’m hell on clutches though.

  • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

    It’s sickos like this who make me think science should just J’Naii the fuck out of the human race — literally, get the “fuck” out of the human race — and engineer the sexual instinct into oblivion completely. I know technically the aliens had gender wiped out rather than the “mating” drive, but for all intents and purposes I don’t think we’re enlightened enough as a species to be responsible with consent or harassment or generally not treating other human beings like fuck toys, in other words not grabbing anything that moves by the bqwhatever. This creep is the tip of the iceberg. You know there’s more. Millions more. Heck, there’s one in the White House making crass jokes about his nuclear button, who can be seen in photographs sharing really weird “together time” with his daughter and who is known for having burst in the dressing room of underage pageant contestants. Just obliterate it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure. Everybody be friendzoned, and everybody have nothing more than hygge. No more fingers or “buttons” or any other objects in anybody’s anything. Heck, no more picking your nose. Certainly no picking of anyone else’s nose.

    • amrak63

      I would not literally support this, but yeah, it’s enough to make you think there’s something warped, or at least easily warpable, about the sexual impulse itself.

      • C4TWOMAN

        It’s nothing more than power corrupts, and absolute power, etc.
        We’re just seeing the worst examples out this being revealed all at once, whilst AT THE SAME TIME, thinking we’d gotten a handle on this shit ages ago. The shock is we’re wrong and we need to examine why we’re wrong.
        Spoiler: institutionalized, sexism, racism, x-ism

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        The primitive lizard brain. We’re not at that advanced stage of evolution that’s more mind than body.

        • Shan

          Who says that’s advanced? We’d be a lot healthier if we stopped making it a dichotomy where these things are inherently in conflict with each other.

    • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

      I think wiping out the mindless worship of competitive sports has a slightly better chance of succeeding (though only slightly.) As someone noted below, it’s like a religion for a lot of people. Just as untethered from reality and ripe for abusers to manipulate.

    • Shan

      People would still find a way to abuse each other. How about we excise THAT drive and leave the sex one to those of us who enjoy it?

      • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

        I guess, if the percentage of the latter is greater than the percentage of the former. I’m just skeptical of that possibility the more I read about the Weinsteins and Trumps and Epsteins and the trafficking of kids and the Fox News culture and Saudi Arabia etc. etc. etc. I’m sure the healthier version exists; it has to in some relationships. But I’m just not sure anymore that it’s the majority. Or even a plurality. Maybe in Normay. They seem to have a lot of this stuff figured out.

        • NastyBossetti

          It’s not newsworthy when people have healthy sexual relationships, so you’re not going to read a bunch of stories where people told the police or a news outlet they had consensual sex with a partner and they enjoyed it.

        • Grumpy Twat

          You don’t know any happy, long-term married/committed couples who brought their children up to be decent folks?

      • puredog

        My right to pick other people’s noses is explicitly protected by the Constitution.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Yes, Consensual sex is awesome!

    • laineypc

      I’ve always held the wildly popular notion that we (and by “we” I mean you men) need to decrease the testosterone by 2/3rds and increase the oxytocin by 1/3 or so. So will still have and enjoy sex and stuff, but with less aggression, fewer unplanned pregnancies, and more nurturing. More like the ladies, really. Won’t solve everything, but you know, maybe top it off with some X in the water supply…

    • Boojum

      Yet, the J’Naii had individuals who felt gendered attractions, who were subjected to official and unofficial oppression. Maybe we could just teach people to stop thinking of sex in terms of control, abuse, and violence.

  • Lamb Urgini
  • Downpup E

    In the 2nd reference, you have people suing UM instead of MSU.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Why on earth do the decent men not shut this down? Most of the men I know are good people. Is there some sort of weird guy thing that allows this to happen? I’m a little upset about this.

    • 🍁 Møøse Fuddlin’ Girl Guide 🍁

      It’s not only the men in the program but the parents, who sacrifice their kids on the altar of athletic competition, often for a shot at their own glory. In a way it is like a Greek tragedy:

      They sacrificed their children on the Olympic flame,
      To appease fair Clio, the muse of fame.
      But fame is fleeting, an uncertain whim;
      So the children became food for the Fates — dark and grim.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I say this with love. Yeah, it’s on the men.

    • Sunhead

      I would guess, like most child abusers, he hid it or excused it with everybody. He knew what he was doing was sexual abuse, he was not in any way deluding himself, so he knew he had to hide it, or do a snow job.
      In elite sport circles, phrasing something like “I know this looks bad, but the technique really works and it’s a great advantage for the girls getting them back on the mats faster” is the kind of thing people want to believe. That they are getting access to powerful secret assistance. It’s the same way people end up taking performance enhancing drugs supplied by their teams.
      Not everyone is capable of cutting through the bullshit and seeing things for what they really are. And let’s face it, the way many parents of kids in elite sports programs treat their kids is borderline abusive. The stereotype of psycho parent screaming X rated abuse from the sportball sideline exists for a reason.
      We have had the final report in Australia of the Royal Commission into Institutional Response to Child Abuse. It tells a story of denial and manipulation, where the children were never believed or thought to be exaggerating, and where the institutions were motivated to protect their reputations before protecting the children. The offenders were deeply embedded in positions of authority in authoritarian organisations. The vast majority, but not all, were men.
      It falls to all of us, to have the moral fortitude to stand up for these things. It is why there are mandatory reporting classes for whom not reporting suspected abuse is a crime. We all still suffer from not wanting to get involved in messy legal situation because they take up so much time even if you were just a witness.
      Decent men would look at the whole thing, the objectification, the focus on weight, the extremes of the exercise, kids rupturing joints and getting disabling injuries and crying in pain as they practise routines. They ways they are pitted against each other like animals in a fighting pit to be the best. Only the winner matters. That is the Olympic Spirit. But it is horrifying. Decent people would not put their kids in that situation, where winning by any means necessary is the goal.

    • Calli Arcale

      There are two reasons, I think. One: they avoid letting decent men find out in the first place. A successful serial predator knows how to manipulate people and manipulate situations so he’ll always get the benefit of the doubt. Two: not all men are decent, and he likely had support from non-decent men within the organization. Like the bastard who admitted watching him do this and finding it funny.

  • Rebel Scum with permit

    I did read the ESPN article. I couldn’t finish it because it made me sick. You have police and prosecutors who are willing to believe that a developmentally disabled day care worker who couldn’t even get a drivers license participated in secret satanic ritual abuse, and somehow obtained and slaughtered a giraffe to intimidate preschool age children. Then you have parents and coaches who don’t want to believe their pre teen children’s accounts of sexual abuse because it’s really, really important for the kids to get into the Olympics.
    Family values indeed.

  • wait! what?

    I’m guessing this means he’ll finish his career practicing at a VA facility.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Or a contractor who provides medical treatment at juvenile facilities. I can out-dark anyone today.

  • James Baskin

    There are no words….

    • wait! what?

      They should have sent a poet an executioner.

  • Kathleen McMillan

    Correction, 1st paragraph: Michigan State University, not University of Michigan. Please keep things accurate!

    • doktorzoom

      Corrected. Sorry for the error.

      • Kathleen McMillan

        Thank you. I went to junior high and high school with Larry Nassar so have been interested in this lurid story. Thanks for the heads up on the ESPN coverage and, in general, all you at Wonkette do. Love you guys!

  • Mentally Stable Ron

    Dotard’s on the TV right now, forgetting the names of female staffers and pols and lying about the economy. SSDD.

  • Nodrama4mama

    My daughter did competitive swimming where we had to go through a whole training session on sexual abuse because of issues they had. Now she does gymnastics on a recreational league and weight lifting competitively. She is 11 and the USA Weightlifting has rules about a parent being in the room during weigh ins and that she has to weigh in wearing a minimum of her singlet.

    I am so sickened by all this and horrified at what happened to these girls. My daughter follows all the gymnasts on Instagram so we have had to have a few extra talks.

    A colonoscopy with a rusty chainsaw (of votes) and burning in hell is too good for that motherfucker and all of those who supported him.

  • Earl Aabo

    The woman are suing Michigan State, not the University of Michigan.

    • doktorzoom

      Yep, sorry I missed that error, and fixed.

  • Beelzebubba

    They’re reluctant to speak publicly about Geddert because they have children involved in gymnastics? WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK???
    Parents like these are a big part of the problem.

    • Jennaratrix

      Yeah, my kids wouldn’t be “involved in gymnastics” anymore after this. No way, no how.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Apparently from a comment below parents are required to be present for a lot of stuff now. So progress?

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Probably because their kids are begging them, not to, also. Everyone gets so invested in the sick system, and there’s so much politics.
      I think it takes a really courageous parent to say”I’m going to jeopardize everything you’ve busted your ass for the last 10 years, including maybe your college scholarship”
      Then again, if more people had done and said the right thing, this country wouldn’t be where it is now.

    • stablegeniusahughes798

      That guy needs be be brought up on abuse charges, too.

  • nightmoth

    JFC—reading this makes me want to vomit, and why isn’t that Geddert doing hard time, because he’s a monster, too.

    • stablegeniusahughes798

      I know, right? What he’s doing is child abuse. And that’s assuming he didn’t know what Nassar was doing.

  • C4TWOMAN

    And then the other thing scumbags like this do is discourage many talented girls from continuing in the sport. The ones who weren’t victimized but felt “something was off” and dropped out.

    I was lucky…all my interests were boys stuff…at the time there was virtually no significant number of predators targeting girls into baseball, science, outdoors stuff, weightlifting. But if there had been I know I would have practiced avoidance because I had no reliable adults I trusted. Avoidance and aggression are great to keep you safe. Not so much to pursue an interest with predator gatekeepers…

    • alpacapunchbowl

      THIS. 100%.
      And not just sports. There are multiple career paths I abandoned because of male gatekeepers in my path who I could tell were “off” even when I was young and insecure, so I walked away. Even though I had previously experienced sexual assault and abuse I don’t know that it literally crossed my mind that further assaults could be imminent if I didn’t extract myself from a situation. I did know that someone who’s supposed to be a mentor should not be asking you out on “dates” (investigative journalism in college; a very easy and lucrative area of law in law school) or encouraging you to model for him when you’re *supposed* to be getting real-world experience in video editing (college again).
      The one good thing about all this for me personally is that at the age of 40 I’m finally realizing that a lot of the things I tried but that didn’t work out, it wasn’t because I wasn’t good enough or that I was a failure. I was following my instincts and, in the process, protecting myself even though I may not have realized it.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Good on you. And you can always go back to it (if you haven’t already). Now most of the software is available at *those places* on the internet.

      • Boojum

        My ex-wife gave up a promising career as a concert violinist when her teacher stuck his tongue down her throat.

        • alpacapunchbowl

          That’s awful. And not uncommon. I’m sorry she had to experience that. Does she at least still play for the love of it, or did he ruin that for her too?

          • Boojum

            She teaches and plays freelance.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Ucch. When I read the headline, I thought – he molested 140 college-age women? How in the world…? But then I read the ESPN article, and I see how he went about it, with younger girls.

    I hate to see the coach-athlete relationship damaged by stuff like this, but it’s crucial to protect children. There’s just gotta be some hard-and-fast rules put in place to keep something like this from happening ever again.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      A coach, masseuse, nurse, or other medical professional shouldn’t be performing a procedure without consent from the parents, and without another person in the room.
      The child should also understand what is going to be done and why.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Yep, that sounds like a good rule to me.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      And it’s a simple one: No children alone with an adult without a parent/guardian present at all times.

      • stablegeniusahughes798

        The creepy thing about this is, is that when a parent WAS present, on one occasion, the parent said Nasser would use his body or a towel as a shield to keep the parent from seeing what he was doing. His daughter was being molested right in front of him. So basically, it wouldn’t have mattered if the parent was in the room, or not.

  • theCryptofishist

    Who brings a six year old to a boiler room?

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Even Freddy Krueger stuck to teens.

  • puredog

    I did not know this (from the ESPN article):
    “Doctors interviewed by Outside the Lines say intravaginal and
    intrarectal treatments have been used for decades to treat medical
    problems such as pelvic floor dysfunction, which can occur when muscles
    on the pelvic floor become weak or tight. The treatments can also be
    used for interstitial cystitis, a painful bladder syndrome. But those
    same doctors say the procedures are never performed without gloves, a
    chaperone in the room and, in the case of a minor, parental consent.”

    • Eileen Besse

      FUCK THEM.

      • stablegeniusahughes798

        ? ?

        • Eileen Besse

          I meant the pervs, NOT the victims–sorry!

          • stablegeniusahughes798

            I thought you were talking about the doctors! My head is so full of snot from this head cold, I wish someone would invent nose tampons, and my brain is not working, LOL!

  • Rick Hill

    I can’t believe it didn’t come to light…when a father mercilessly beat the shit out of him and then the beating was investigated by the police

    • puredog

      That must have been some kick-ass dad. Geddert looks like he could be a tough cookie if he needed to be.

      • stablegeniusahughes798

        Geddert, assuming he didn’t know what Nassar was doing, should be fired for child abuse.

      • Sakonyachen

        A guy who could lift a 500 lb tarp onto the bobcat scoop once told me that you never want to deal with a jealous husband, unless the other choice is a mad Daddy.

    • John Thorstensen

      Do you have a reference for that? I want it to be true!

      • Rick Hill

        Sorry, just trying to say that if it had happened to my daughter, the authorities wouldn’t have been my first choice. Also saying “Wth didn’t any fathers take this guy to account?”

        • H0mer0

          Maybe it was like with Sandusky that most of the kids were raised by a single mother. However, given the expense associated with any sport like gymnastics, I doubt many single mothers could afford it.

        • Calli Arcale

          Same reason why the mothers didn’t. Successful serial predators know how to choose their victims, and how to groom not only the victim but also the victim’s parents. The evidence that has been read out includes discussion of how he systematically and proactively discredited the girls so that the parents wouldn’t believe any claims that were actually brought to him. Plus, I’m sure if he knew a child had a parent who’d beat the crap out of him, he’d leave that girl alone. It’s not like there weren’t plenty of other victims to choose from.

  • SadDemInTex

    We brought down Weinstein…we must bring down Geddert. Fuck him…no one should wield that kind of power or be insulated from punishment for their complicity in this abuse. And you will find eventually that Nassar was not the only one abusing these girls.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I suspect he’ll hang himself before being locked up….I just can’t wrap my head around someone who clearly cares what people think about him, but kept doing things that he had to know would catch up with him.

      I mean his lates victim was in 2016? At no point did he notice the growing power of social media and decide to cool it? If he’d stopped 10 years ago, he might never have been convicted.

      • SadDemInTex

        These evil fuckers don’t think what they are doing is wrong. God knows how many of these people exist in elite sports venues, elite music schools, elite academic settings. The pussy grabber in chief is a perfect example.

        • C4TWOMAN

          The thing is…if they don’t think it’s wrong, they why do they:
          1.try to cover it up
          2.Outright lie about it
          3.Bawl their eyes out when they’re caught?

          I could buy that if he was all stoic and arrogant. But its like he’s a small child in an adult body acting out a compulsion and when caught is reduced to “I dont’ know…”

      • Boojum

        I would tie the rope…with a fake knot, so that he would only think he was going to hang. Over and over and over…

        • C4TWOMAN

          That is wicked….

        • doktorzoom

          Funny. You know that mock executions are considered war crimes when done by military interrogators? Please review the rules.

          — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

          • Boojum

            It is a good thing that Wonkette doesn’t have comments and that I am not a military interrogator.

      • Moar Wordz

        As with any sociopathic compulsion, he couldn’t stop himself.
        His molesting, digital rape, as with all acts of abuse, allowed him a rush of power, and sexual/ emotional gratification.
        All rapes contain hatred, and the act of rape itself allows the rapist to enact that hatred, power play. Which must be part of the appeal for said rapist.
        Make no mistake: is an act of power and control.

  • Ninja0980

    All of the people who helped cover up for this slimeball and allowed more girls to be abused should be going to jail right along with him for the rest of their miserable lives.

  • veska

    I just want to point out that Nassar worked for Michigan State University, not University of Michigan, as stated in this article.

    • miriad

      Thank you. I was about to reply with the same.

    • Wonky “TransgenderFetus” McGoo

      It’s a HUGE difference. No, really. Ask a Spartan.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        It’s true. He seems low class enough to be from UM, but he was MSU’s problem.

    • doktorzoom

      Damn it, I caught the error in one spot where I’d gotten it wrong, but missed the other. Fixed!

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    “please add all the irony qoutes you want to that list”

    Nope, nope, nope, the irony well is dry. Wishing strength and support for all those young women.

  • BrianW

    Oh, were we supposed to have a joke in here?

    I’m pretty sure the readership will let this lack of humor slide.

  • Boojum

    Like they couldn’t find another fucking doctor.

    • covfefesumgame0005

      who is the “they” you are talking about?

      • Boojum

        The school and the team.

    • Moar Wordz

      Yes, why WAS Nasser the molester kept on ?
      Not, ” oh, the parents and gymnasts could’ve easily shopped for another Doc.” I wouldn’t disrespect the sexual abuse survivors and their families like that.
      No, they couldn’t. He was the monster that they were sent to and trustingly allowed to examine their daughters.
      I just wonder if his child molesting and digital rape, and or/ actual rape, was limited to females ?

      • Boojum

        No, I meant the school and the team. The gymnasts had to use him.

        • Moar Wordz

          Yeah, I thought that was what you meant !

  • Daniel Hooper

    While I agree with you anger toward Nassar, I feel like I need to push back a little against Doc’s annoyance at the lack of coverage on this through the major sports news sites. I’ve been seeing articles about the claims, the legal discussions, and Nassar’s admissions for months now. While I admit everyone’s a bit hyped about the NFL post season, that’s what gets covered on SportsCenter; the pro sports. Just because it’s not the headline doesn’t mean it isn’t being covered. Plus, that’s gotta be quite the tone shift to make, going from, “Holy crap, the Vikings won on a miracle play!” to, “And now, the child molesting gym teacher is being sentenced today…”, and I’m not sure that’s should be wedged in between highlights. It really needs it’s own in depth examination and wouldn’t do the Nassar story justice trying to do it during an otherwise normal show in my opinion.

  • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

    It is not surprising that sexual abuse is winked at in a sport that (at the elite level) requires young children to destroy their bodies and endure levels of pain most of us can’t even imagine.

  • Moar Wordz

    Making actual farts while saying Fuck The Patriarchy, with rude gestures, to wit.

    Thanks to Simone for her honesty and bravery, and Thanks to Evan and Wonkette for publishing this.

  • H0mer0

    If Geddert was there and saw it, he needs to go.

    • Stulexington

      To jail for aiding and abetting.

    • Calli Arcale

      By his own words, he was, and he did, and he *joked* about it.

  • rosenbomb

    hoooooooly shit. just finished the ESPN piece. my emotional reserves are all used up for the day.

  • Husband Of Mrs God

    So, Geddert’s next.

    • stablegeniusahughes798

      He should be, if only for the way he treated those children when he was coaching them.

  • Delu

    So….next candidate for governor of some American state?

  • WhoCheckedRussia’sVoterID

    Well…the man DOES have a horrible, shitty, dangerous life ahead of him. So sad! But he IS only one guy…the dozens and dozens and dozens of women he sexually assaulted have their whole lives to deal with the betrayal, self-loathing, disgust etc etc etc. And THEY are innocent.

    As the father of two girls…I’m worried.

    • HazooToo

      I would say he voted to put himself in that horrible, shitty, dangerous life when he molested children.

  • The crazy thing is that this creep’s reign of terror lasted for so long. People really need to teach their children to be skeptical about authority figures.

    • kareemachan

      Well, it was kinda like Russia.

    • Sunhead

      People really need to teach their children to be skeptical about authority figures.

      Umm, you have seen the stories of what happens in US schools if obedience is not instant and unthinking? The ones about 250 pound ‘School Resource Officers’ picking up and throwing to the ground 120 pound teens and the ones about Dress Code humiliation. I appears that unthinking obedience to authority is what is being taught.

  • Cool_North

    That ESPN article is the stuff of nightmares. It makes you see red and not care about consequences should you be in the presence of any of those degenerate accomplices.

  • Sunhead

    I just finished listening to the David Marr podcast about the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse. In part to paraphrase… “The pattern is clear. Look to your family and friends. Kids around 10-12, who suddenly go from being the brightest young things, top of the class to failing school, acting out, skipping classes. These are the ones.”

  • danedg

    Police said a Pennsylvania man who was ejected from Saturday’s Philadelphia Eagles game assaulted a police horse after leaving the stadium. Taylor Hendricks, 22, was removed from Lincoln Financial Field before the start of the Eagles’ NFL playoff game against the Atlanta Falcons by stadium personnel who said he arrived intoxicated and was unable to produce a ticket.

    “After the male was ejected he walked over to a mounted officer and began punching the horse in the face, neck and shoulder area,” the Philadelphia Police Department said in a statement to CBS News. The department said the officer who was riding the horse was also struck in the legs during the incident.

    Nuff said…

    • Squeegee

      Some people turn into monsters when they are drunk it is like a switch in them and of course their being drunk is NOT a mitigating factor in any criminality in their actions whether it is drunk driving or assaulting someone or committing another crime

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    • Sakonyachen

      Sorry. No joke today. Go fuck yourself bot!

      • motmelere

        Wit is wasted on these, just flag as spam & move on.

        • Sakonyachen

          I have a whole thing I do, but the subject matter of this blogpost was too much to think in terms of sarcasm.

  • Lurkylu

    JFC, this story. if there is not a complete housecleaning, then i do not know what to say. There were 100 victims…thats a lot of RESPONSIBLE adults turning a blind eye. Fuck them, they can all go to jail.

    • Calli Arcale

      A bunch of years ago (ten? twenty? can’t remember) there was a pediatrician someplace out east who was eventually caught and outed as a serial pedophile rapist. His victims were his patients, naturally. There were even more victims identified in his case, and authorities were positive there were way, way more whose parents still may not know what happened, since he was preying on kids far too young to explain what happened to them, and certainly to young to understand it was wrong. And yes, his colleagues had a bad feeling about him, and even suspected he might be abusing his patients, yet not a single one ever said anything. They instead deluded themselves into thinking they were wrong. Better that than find out a colleague was a monster.

      The worst part of this? Not only is this guy not the first, he won’t be the last either. Not by a long shot. I am quite positive there are others doing exactly this right now, as we speak, some of whom will *never* be found out.

  • Squeegee

    As a parent it is heartbreaking to me that this guy committed this crime so many times before getting caught and the same for so many serial molesters before him.

  • Squeegee

    Also just as an aside I do a lot of volunteer work setting up nonprofit groups that work with kids in schools and other venues with young kids and the young kids are NEVER permitted to be alone with just one adult there is always multiple adults present in any situation.
    Quite frankly that is what I remembered as a kid too in gym class and in the locker room after class the school had strict rules about two adults in the locker rooms/monitoring the showers and so on you would never have a teacher alone with a kid
    Did they not have that rule on the gymnastics teams? Because they should

  • Guest Liberal

    It’s so outrageous it’s stunning. I am so proud of the women coming forward to confront this filth on his sick and damaging criminal behavior in a court of law, for the whole world to witness. It has been said that It would be better a millstone be tied around his neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea…But I think some hard time in prison will have to suffice in this instance.

  • Carole

    It’s not that Americans think the NFL playoffs are more important than putting a serial child molester behind bars. It’s just that Americans think it’s more important to obsess over who’s gonna kneel while the national anthem is being played at said playoffs.

    • Calli Arcale

      I think it’s more that folks are desperate for something happy to look at. Us internet people, we look at pictures of adorable kitties and suchlike. Others are basking in the Minneapolis Miracle, just because it’s something pleasant to think about for a bit.

      This story needs way more coverage than it’s getting, but I can also understand why so many folks just need a break right now from all the crap on the news.

  • Not Gonna Be Quiet Linda

    “You don’t get someone like Larry Nassar, you don’t get a pedophile who is able to abuse without there being a culture surrounding him in that place.”

    THIS. There’s no way others working with Nassar didn’t know what he was doing.

  • Zyxomma

    I may read it later, but not now. I just watched my tape of Frontline: Rape on the Night Shift, and I can’t take any more serial abuse at the moment.

  • Things like this happen because of a supporting infrastructure. To kill it you need to put the sport last and the health and safety of kids first. And that means a lot of people getting fired, and new people with the right priorities being brought in. And I’m sorry – get men the hell out of the ladies locker room.

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