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A Louisiana teacher was taken out of a school board meeting Monday after arguing that an administrator didn’t deserve a pay raise based on teachers’ and students’ improvements, and then for good measure, a local cop who escorted her into the hall shoved her to the floor while putting handcuffs on her, then hauled her off to jail. We’re almost certain that’s not in Robert’s Rules of Order.

Middle school English teacher — they’re always the troublemakers — Deyshia Hargrave spoke before the Vermillion Parish School Board voted to give a $38,000 raise to Superintendent Jerome Puyau; then, after the vote, when she asked Puyau how he could accept a raise when teachers haven’t gotten one in years, she was told by a police officer to leave the room. Here’s the full video; if you want to skip to the good stuff, Hargrave’s first statement starts around 30 seconds in, then her second comments and the arrest come at about 6:13.

Obviously, this lady is some sort of radical labor thug, thinking there should be pay equity between administrators and the serfs:

“I have a serious issue with a superintendent or any person in a position of leadership getting any type of raise,” Ms. Hargrave said, standing next to her seat. “I feel like it is a slap in the face to all the teachers, cafeteria workers and any other support staff we have.”

She said class sizes were growing.

“We are doing the work, the students are doing the work,” Ms. Hargrave continued. “At the top, that is not where kids learn. It is in the classroom, and those teachers like myself are not getting a dime from that. And that is unspeakable.”

The board went ahead and voted to approve the superintendent’s contract with the raise, and audience members began muttering about what the point of open meetings were if the board wouldn’t listen to the public. Hargrave raised her hand and a board member said, “Yes Ma’am,” and the troublesome teacher got all personal and Out Of Order — although her voice remained calm, she said very mean things!

Superintendent, how are you going to take a raise? … When I first started teaching ELA [English Language Arts], there were like 20, 21 kids in a class, and now there’s like 29 kids in a class… And we have not gotten raises. How are you going to take that money, because it is basically taking it out of the pockets of teachers?

A board member whacked his gavel and said “Stop right now,” and said her question was “not germane,” prompting an outcry from members of the audience who felt it damn well was germane. Ms. Hargrave had been warned and given an explanation, but nevertheless, she persisted:

I am saying how are you taking the raise when you are basically taking from the teachers and employees under you. When we have class sizes that are that big. This directly speaks to what you have just voted on.

At that point, the cop — OK, fine a “deputy city marshall” employed as a school resource officer — showed up and told her, “You are going to leave or I am going to remove you. Take your things and go.” Hargrave, still making trouble by refusing a direct order, asked whether she was allowed to stand up, then the cop made a grab for her arm, at which point she began leaving the room — even though by that point, Puyau was actually starting to address her question. Out in the hall, Hargrave somehow ended up on the floor while the cop cuffed her and — no doubt thrilled to deliver the line — told her, “stop resisting.”

You know how scofflaws can get all over-dramatic; Hargrave replied, as she got to her feet and was walked away, “I am not — you just pushed me to the floor. I am way smaller than you.” As if that made any difference! He could have shot her if he’d wanted, probably.

Things then got even more stupid, somehow, as the marshall turned the overreaction knob to Eleven:

Outside, the marshal called for backup. He is heard saying to her that he had given her orders to leave, and Ms. Hargrave, standing in the dark against a car, replied, saying she was “walking and asking you a question.”

The officer’s arrest report said Hargrave had to go to the pokey for “remaining after having been forbidden” and “resisting an officer,” although in a remarkable act of restraint, he somehow refrained from accusing her of assault with a deadly thesaurus or High Treason. Abbeville’s city attorney and prosecutor, who is blessed with the admirable name Ike Funderburk, later said that after seeing the video, he decided not to pursue charges, and that the school board wouldn’t press charges either:

“I have been to hundreds of school board meetings and I saw nothing from her conduct that was different from any of the others I have seen,” Mr. Funderburk said. “I concluded there was no criminal activity on her part.”

Good on you, Ike Funderburk! IKE FUNDERBURK, everybody!

School board member Laura LeBeouf, who voted against renewing Puyau’s contract, said Hargrace was a “great teacher” who’d been named teacher of the year at her middle school in 2016. She also confirmed that teachers hadn’t had a pay increase in 10 years and called Hargrave’s arrest a “disgrace,” because isn’t the point of a public meeting for the public to say things?

Radical talk, that. Besides, how else are small-town cops supposed to get their “STOP RESISTING” jollies? At this point, our only hope is Ike Funderburk.

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  • ManchuCandidate

    The beatings will continue till morale improves.

  • DerrickWildcat

    Fox News Breaking: Black Man attacks White Woman.

  • goonemeritus

    I almost never get to have my employees arrested when they get mouthy with me.

    • kareemachan

      Even when they leave holes in your sweaters?

      (Sorry, not sorry – I couldn’t resist.)

      • goonemeritus

        I would like to point out that I fixed that typo before you posted, so there.

        • kareemachan

          And it didn’t show up for me, so there.

          I mean come on, in the maybe 15 seconds between reading the comment and commenting and posting, I’m sure you did fix it. It just was funny to me.

          • Mr. Blobfish

            Oh, get a room, you two.

          • goonemeritus

            Not my fault, I still win.

          • kareemachan

            ;-)

            [Goes to get coffee]

          • Oblios_Cap

            Both of you are getting mothy!

          • Little Lulu Ω

            I think I’m witnessing the initial stages of a brand new Wonkette tradition.

    • MynameisBlarney

      My dad used to have a bumper sticker on his truck that said “Have you flogged your crew lately?”

    • calliecallie

      Wouldn’t you like to, though? I have a couple I’d have arrested, srsly.

  • kareemachan

    I actually emailed the school district and asked them to explain to me why she wasn’t a member of the public. Gee, I wonder if I’ll get an answer….

    • lowenufc

      Careful- you’ll get a visit from the police.

      • kareemachan

        That would be quite a travel expense… ;-)

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      Having worked school board meetings, the only time we would have ever shut someone down during public comment was if they were verbally abusing staff or attacking individual board members. Otherwise, let them say their piece and move on. Dictating what is or is not permissible outside of flagrant violations is a really good way to run afoul of Open Meeting Law.

  • beatbort

    It doesn’t count unless he did a barrel roll first.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    Calling dibs on Ike and the Funderbunks as the name of my new band.

    • Major^3 Andre

      Is it going to be a salsa/polka fusion band?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Accordion lead thrash/punk/ska/latin jazz?

        • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

          I assumed it was steampunk/a capella.

        • Arolpin

          So you’re joining the Skatelites?

          • MynameisBlarney

            Ha! I wish!

        • fredoandme

          you’ll need a bad ukulele player.

    • Fartknocker

      Let me know if you need a rock-star-level cowbell musician. I’m available.

    • puredog

      I’ll be in my fun bunk.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    #deputycitymarshalllivesmatter

  • therblig

    Ike has made up for Foxy Funderburke.

  • Hollandaise

    Our modern dystonia is exhausting.

  • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

    Hey, dickhead. Doubling down, blaming the victim, and insulting her is not the best play here!

    In a phone interview late Tuesday evening, [School Board President Anthony] Fontana told WAFB’s Scottie Hunter he stands behind the officer’s actions, saying he believes the real blame actually falls on the teacher. “This is not about the board, it’s about the teacher and everybody wants to side on the poor little woman who got thrown out,” said Fontana. “Well she made a choice. She could have walked out and nothing would have happened.”

    • tomamitai

      She was walking, until the asshole threw her to the ground. How these creatures can do this shit and still consider themselves to be men is beyond me.

      • Ghenghis McCann

        Walking, but not fast enough for him. Of course any faster and she would have been trying to evade him.

    • Oblios_Cap

      How dare her question her betters!

    • Arolpin

      I hope she runs for the school board against Fontana and wins. Then has him barred from board meetings due to extreme assholishness.

      • puredog

        From what I hear, she’s teaching because she loves to teach. This does not necessarily carry over to a desire to administer.

  • Oblios_Cap

    he somehow refrained from accusing her of assault with a deadly thesaurus or High Treason.

    Persnickety English Composition types! I saw the Super whining on TV this morning. What a crybaby.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    That guy is such a Hitler.

  • Scooby

    His raise is probably equal to her annual salary.

    • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

      It’s probably more.

    • major_asshole

      Maybe not her salary, but it’s roughly equivalent to the starting salary of a new teacher.

      Wonder if their superintendent gets a fully-loaded, paid-for SUV like my parish’s superintendent…

  • Indiepalin

    Everyone in Louisiana knows that the Thesaurus died out with the rest of the dinosaurs, during the Great Flood.

    • Hesavebread!

      All apart from the cute one in the photo with Jesus.

      • Arolpin

        Yeah, what the fuck is up with that? If you (are blessed with the IQ of a rutabaga and) believe in Young Earth Creationism, you also believe that the dinosaurs were wiped out by the Flood, which happened centuries before Jesus walked the earth. How in the hell is Jesus walking with dinosaurs then? (Yes, I know that YEC is fucking insane, but at least have some fucking consistency in your illogical fables.)

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          OBJECTION YOUR HONOR
          They were promised there would be no math.

          • Arolpin

            Objection denied. There was no math in that statement. There weren’t even any numbers.

  • WeaselPoo

    So…What justified the admin getting such a significant raise? Why was it approved when its a significant amount for a dinky parish? Why was the deputy such a dick?

    By which I mean who of these school board fuckers are sexing whom, and how many mutual grifting and embezzlement deals have they made amongst themselves and their buddies? Any bets that THAT is what’s really going on here?

  • lowenufc

    And they say teaching isn’t dangerous…

    • Jeffery Campbell

      It’s very dangerous if you are doing it right.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    You know how you can tell the English teacher is white without looking at the video?
    Yeah. You know.
    America: We Suck!

    • Arolpin

      Honestly, when I first read about this, I assumed African-American based on the name, but then I realized she was only arrested, not shot.
      (I was surprised to find out that people assumed I was African-American based on my name. Every time I went to a new duty station in the Navy, whomever was supposed to meet me at the airport had a hard time finding me because they were looking for a black guy, not a blue-eyed white guy.)

      • cmd resistor

        Yeah, still pretty uppity but having the black guy shoot her might have been looked at disapprovingly.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Honestly, Arolpin doesn’t sound African-American to me.

        • Arolpin

          :) Let’s just say my given name is an Old Testament prophet who was not loved in his own land. I always though of it as an old southern name (or a colonial name), but there are a handful of young athletes with my name now, but there was maybe 1 public figure with my name 25+ years ago when people assumed I was black.

          • Jeffery Campbell

            Hosea, is that you?

          • Arolpin

            Nope, a few books before that, and a lot more chapters.

          • Jeffery Campbell

            LOL, no OT scholar here – it was a Sunday School kind of guess.

  • Nockular cavity

    Ike Funderburk

    Well, I’m sure Judge Fonebone would have tossed the case out of court anyway.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • therblig

    my mom was a public school teacher for 25 years and always held that most of what was wrong with public education was due to the superintendents and their minions.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Administration can fuck up the best organizations.

    • major_asshole

      Son of a public school teacher here. She put in 23 years before medical retirement. Never had a bad thing to say about the mid-level administrators (principals, district curriculum heads)…but never had a nice thing to say about the dumbass superintendent and his flunkies.

  • msanthropesmr

    This is despicable.

    But there is likely a reason that the superintendent gets a raise and the teachers don’t. In many states, qualified superintendents are in short supply. Legally, you have to have a superintendent – but your class sizes legally can be much higher than what is good for the students. The system is fucked in many states to cause superintendent salary inflation.

    Plus, the superintendent of schools is a real shitty job, and extremely difficult.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      And I’ll bet the football coach makes twice what the superintendent makes, even with the raise.

      • msanthropesmr

        In Louisiana? Maybe. But in many states, the superintendent of schools is the highest paid position in the county because very few people are qualified to be a superintendent.

    • major_asshole

      I can’t speak for all of Louisiana, but in Terrebonne Parish the schools superintendent isn’t exactly a work-your-ass-off kind of job. He doesn’t travel to the schools, doesn’t really do anything outside his office, and mostly seems to do just enough work to keep “them” from demanding his resignation.

      And qualifications? I’m pretty sure I could be appointed to the job, and I have an MA in history.

      I do despise all the perks of the job, and I’m wondering why he didn’t demand a publicly-paid-for house to go with the SUV the parish bought him.

      • msanthropesmr

        Oh, in some places it’s not a work your ass off job. But it is legally required. And in LA you have to have a superintendent’s license – which requires that you have 5-years experience in your subject – 5-years in a a leadership position and a passing score on the SSA.

        • major_asshole

          I assume any subject and any “leadership position” will do, so I could teach gym and be an athletics director of a high school for five years, and so long as I get the bare minimum scores–I’d be qualified!

        • major_asshole

          Of course, this is the same state where grossly unqualified teachers are hired because no one else wants the shitty salary they offer, so I’m assuming that other corners are cut as well.

  • Baconzgood

    “That’s a well reasoned and excellent point Ma’am. You obviously are concerned about the children, and this small hamlet very much. We all appreciate your input and thank you for taking the time to raise these concerns. Toss her the fuck out Steve.”

  • Crystalclear12

    Best.
    Name.
    Ever!
    Ike.
    Funderburk.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Dick Butkus

      • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

        Dick Trickle

      • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

        or Dick Button.

        • Bill D. Burger

          Misty Hyman

          • Baconzgood

            Hitler?

        • Major^3 Andre

          Bitsy Tiddy, and yes, that is real. Her husband is/was Dick. Again, REAL

        • Old town Urbandale

          This was announced over the PA before store open: “Would all those with Dick Burns please come to the speaker room for the morning meeting?” (Yes, that was his name.) And we had a receptionist that was so naive she fell for announcing, “(Store manager) would like to see Mike Hunt in his office.”

      • Crystalclear12

        Very nice but when shouted does it bring fear to your enemies?

        • Oblios_Cap

          When I coached baseball, one of the other teams had a player named “Buck Savage”. Great baseball name.

      • Baconzgood

        Karl Dykhuis. Was a hockey player.

        (Pronounced Dike-house)

      • MynameisBlarney

        Gaylord Perry.

        • Dg Hacket

          Howie Feltersnatch

      • ImGoingBacon

        Benedict Cumberbatch

      • Dick Trickle

      • Grumpy Twat

        Way down my family tree there is a lady called Rhoda Bottom

    • therblig
      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        A soft chuckle escaped me.

  • Crystalclear12

    Oh, I didn’t realize we were at the “jail the intellectuals” portion of our downfall yet.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    When I visit other websites I get an ad for a hoodie that looks like a well-marbled steak. It looks pretty gross and I cannot imagine wearing it. But what the heck did I visit or search for that thinks I would want this? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f0d8cfb970c98a200163cb9c223b79069ee0ea6e28659aaeb042ca796454850.png

    • TJ Barke

      These hoodies with photo realistic images on them are a new fad I think.

      • cmd resistor

        I might wear one with realistic images of pie but that one is gross.

        • TJ Barke

          Go for it, there’s quite a variety out there.

    • cmd resistor

      I got that ad yesterday on my email page.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      ‘Release the hounds.’ C Montgomery Burns.

    • therblig

      i googled a picture of a hearse a couple of weeks ago and am still getting ads for hearse dealers.

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        Gotta clear that cache.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Free colo-rectal cancer screenings?
      Butter cow sculptures?
      The mind boggles.

    • MynameisBlarney

      If it was bacon though…

      • Baconzgood

        What’s this about bacon?

        • MynameisBlarney

          It’s the best of the breakfast meats?

          • Baconzgood

            Actually there is a better breakfast meat than bacon and I discovered it about 10 years ago. It’s called “more bacon”

          • MynameisBlarney

            I concur with these findings.

          • Oblios_Cap

            It’s not just for breakfast anymore.

    • msanthropesmr

      I’m getting that too.

    • mailman27

      Douchebro”s Wearhouse

    • MynameisBlarney

      Yea, so remember that corn dildo I posted the other day on the Grassley thread?

    • PubOption

      They think that you are going gaga.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      I don’t know but I’m getting this as well.

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        Me, too.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Lovely Cajun accent Ms. Hargrave has. Too bad she used it to question a white man and now must be sentenced to the labor camps.

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Ya know, a $38K raise is a MASSIVE chunk of additional change. I wonder what grounds they could possibly have found to justify it? Like, “We turned over all the couches in the teachers’ lounges and this is what fell out”? Or was it more “We had an awesome response to our Bake Sale!”
    Because I can’t imagine justifying a massive raise to one man when teachers’ salaries have been stagnant for a decade.
    But, then, I’m a liberal, squishy Dem, so I could be wrong (I’m not wrong).

    • Spotts1701, Porg Wrangler

      The public here is pissed that the District provides the superintendent a fleet vehicle to conduct district business. If we gave her a $38K raise we’d probably have a riot on our hands.

    • HogeyeGrex

      Makes one wonder how much they were paying before the raise. Also, in rural Louisiana, 38k is probably more than they pay that teacher.

    • Abbeville is my hometown, I can verify that $38k is WAY more than the average resident makes in an entire year.

  • “Hmm. We can’t fire all the teachers and switch to giving all the monies to charter schools and Jesus schools run by our friends, but what if we stopped funding education, didn’t give teachers a raise for a decade, and arrested them if they got mouthy about it… so no one wanted to work in our public schools anymore?”

    • Baconzgood

      You’ve been reading the Trump administration’s mission statement haven’t you?

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Now if only we could get one of them to say the quiet part out loud . . . .

    • Old town Urbandale

      Uh, at the state level, we’re looking at firing all the teachers and giving all the monies to charter and Jesus schools, and going all-in on internet schooling. You’d almost think some well-placed Rethuglican ran an internet school.

      • Bemused

        Internet schooling is my least favorite thing. Students who come to us from CAVA (California Virtual Academy) didn’t learn anything and we have to remediate.

  • TJ Barke

    BOW TO YOUR OLIGARCHY!

    • Proud Liberal

      Yeah, fuck that.

  • Baconzgood

    It’s “superintendent” not “super-douchebag”

  • WiscoJoe

    Why is teacher complaining? Doesn’t she realize she’s going to get a tax deduction on her pass through business? And her children won’t even have to pay the estate tax on it when she dies! Huzzah!!!

    • cmd resistor

      Yeah and she gets to keep that deduction for buying her own school classroom supplies. I didn’t realize it was a whopping $250/year.

      • WiscoJoe

        Ugh, welfare queen. I wish I got to deduct $250 out of the personal money I’m forced to spend to maintain a basic level of operational integrity at my impossibly demanding job. Must be nice!!!

  • Proud Liberal

    This bullshit has to stop! We don’t live in Russia!

  • Cousin Itt, hoi polloi

    In so many professions, there exists a kind of groupthink that ranges from excessive communal self-congratulation!!111!! to active stifling of discontent. The members of these organizations and their leaders will tell you they are simply trying to make their workplaces safe and successful. I don’t need to be teacher of the month or some such bullshit, just give me decent class sizes, the resources to actually teach and reward my work through pay and benefits. The rewards I get from my students and parents thanking me for opening their minds is otherwise reward enough.

    These are “ OUR students”, in “ OUR schools” within “ OUR communities.” Sure, right, Vermilion. Raising children does take a village, not a concentration camp.

    • Teecha

      Crazy commie talk.
      Beatings will continue until morale is raised.

  • mfp, reciprocally colluding

    a $38,000 raise?….. A THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLAR RAAAAAIIIIISSE???!1?1!?

    who the fuck gets a $38k raise?…i dont even make $38k a year

    • Oblios_Cap

      I could use that.

      • mfp, reciprocally colluding

        well, yeah, imean….

    • calliecallie

      I was wondering if they could have hired another teacher with $38 k and reduce the class sizes. Or hire 2-3 part time floating assistant teachers.

      • mfp, reciprocally colluding

        HA!…commie

        • calliecallie

          If I was really a commie, I would eliminate that superintendent’s job altogether and hire 3-4 more teachers and let them run the district themselves.

          • mfp, reciprocally colluding

            absolutel….errr…imean…’scurity…’SCURITY!…SUH-CURE-UH-TAAAAAYYY!!11!!1!

          • Ghenghis McCann

            If I were a Maoist, I’d put him in a re-education camp, and put the teacher in charge of his re-education.

          • Mentally Stable Ron

            I like this idea. Does this Mao fellow have any pamphlets I could read, or maybe a book?

          • Jeffery Campbell

            AMEN! Things would be so much better.

          • Old town Urbandale

            Naw, they’re embracing the business model. At my last job, if product development was bogging down, we’d always hire more project managers and administrators instead of coders and testers.

    • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

      Our robber barons and feudal lords, of course.

    • Relativicus

      Just imagine how happy you’ll be when you get your $38,000 raise, then.

      • mfp, reciprocally colluding

        me? happy?BWAAAhahahhahaaaaforeverthedisgruntledemployee

  • WiscoJoe

    Just remember, this nice rent-a-cop is totally beyond reproach and if you criticize him you hate the flag and the troops and America. Also, top law enforcement agents are deepstate thugs that are trying to destroy America from within. That’s how this works now, right?

    • Mentally Stable Ron

      All signs point to yes.

    • james crubb

      The drift in the sycophantic sea goes that way

  • Martini A, very stable genius

    As if teaching wasn’t already an underpaid and under-appreciated job, now some lucky bastards get to be physically assaulted too. Wonderful.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Is it my imagination, or do cops assigned to schools as resource officers always seem to be the worst bullying thugs on the force.

  • I’m going to go ahead and say that Ike Funderburk is EVERYONES only hope.

  • Your friendly neighborhood south Louisiana progressive here, this is my hometown! Most of the city is quite disgusted at this and there has been at least one public protest. Mr. Funderburk’s firm name is even more hilarious: Funderburk & Herpin, ici en parle Francais.

    • MamaBrown

      Thank you for posting this, Funderburk and Herpin made my day. Sounds like the Swedish Chef.

  • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

    Am I the only one who read Ike as “E-kay” just because his last name is so funny?

    • mfp, reciprocally colluding

      jockamo fee-nah-nay!

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        Ay now! Ay now!

  • TJ Barke

    Fucking pinkertons.

  • Gosala

    Why do they care if the point is germane? This is America! It should be english!

    Oh… nevermind

    • therblig

      Tito disagrees

      • PubOption

        This guy was only a deputy Marshal.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      ‘That’s a moot point.’
      ‘Don’t you point that moot at me.’

  • Relativicus

    “He could have shot her if he’d wanted, probably.”

    Just give it a couple months…

    http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/local/new-mexico/legislature/2018/01/10/governor-wants-grant-immunity-police/1020662001/

    • That is revolting. Fucking christ, letting cops do whatever they want without any chance (however limited) that they might have to face consequences? They already have too much goddamn immunity in the practical sense. Fuck.

  • Daniel Hooper

    I’ll let this Super Smash Bros. clip speak for most of us…https://youtu.be/-hfAbHHlj44?t=131

  • Baconzgood

    See this is the problem. The prosecutor will not press charges sure. But this person protesting a decision in a public forum and questioning an elected official was kiboshed at the moment it was raised.

    That is where we should look into the actions of police. If peaceful protesters are thrown in jail when protesting it doesn’t matter if there are charges filed. Their rights are being trampled at the moment of ejection.

    Just sayin’

    • Proud Liberal

      That’s why I resist. I refuse to live in an authoritarian country.

      • Baconzgood

        And you like blunt force head trauma induced by a black jack.

        • Jeffery Campbell

          If that is what it takes, yes.

          • Baconzgood

            I admire your idealism. It will be sad when you hit your mid 30s and have it crushed out of you.

          • Jeffery Campbell

            I’ll be 60 in the spring. It takes a lot of effort, but you can hang on to that idealism.

          • Mentally Stable Ron

            I was lucky. In grades 7 and 8 my teachers were active in both the teachers’ union and the NDP, so I got to see inside both the labour movement and medium-left politics. And I got to compare that with the virulent anti-union opinions of my father, who was very much white-collar. It’s stuck with me ever since.

    • onedollarjuana

      I’m thinking some sort of civil suit is warranted. Might even cost a lot more than that sweetheart raise for the super.

      • Baconzgood

        I think cops should be fined $50 for every arrest that a D.A. refuses to proscute.

  • Farrrrrrrrrrts

    Just tried calling the School Boards # (337-893-3973) and got a “receptionist is busy with another person message.” My sister is a teacher, and I can’t imagine her being treated this way for asking a question, this superintendent needs to be fired immediately.

    • MynameisBlarney

      So does the fuckin cop.

      • Toledo Window Box

        START with the cop.

  • Mavenmaven

    Teachers are the real thugs in the Trump era.

    • MynameisBlarney

      They have been on the GOP shit list for decades now.

      • Mavenmaven

        Funny how similar the GOP shit list resembles Pol Pot’s

        • MynameisBlarney

          And every other asshole dictator.

          • Mentally Stable Ron

            Can’t beat the classics.

      • Old town Urbandale

        Yep. My mother was a small town Iowa elementary teacher. She remembered one time, back in the days before teachers unionized, all the teachers were gathered together in the kindergarten room and made to sit on the tiny kindergarten chairs, while the school board president, with his thumbs hooked in his farmer bib overalls, lectured them on how the school couldn’t afford to give any raises.

    • JohnBull

      I DO feel good about that.

  • FZsdaughter

    As I teacher myself, my New Year’s resolution will now be to observe the anniversary of my moving to Montreal as a high holy day.

  • notanncoulter

    her real offense was possession of reason and rationality [that, plus a vagina].

    • MynameisBlarney

      *vagenda*

      ftfy

  • SomeBigRedDog

    WTF is this guy doing to deserve a $38,000 raise? There’s some serious small town grifting going on here. If I worked in local journalism there I would start looking at his family and who on the school board they might be doing business with.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      that’s roughly one entire teacher’s salary there – depending on their minimums and various benefits and stuff.

    • Baconzgood

      38K is a lot of seditious books (like Tom Sawyer or Our Bodies Our Selves) that could have been purchased.

    • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

      I did see something that said he hadn’t had a raise since 2013, so maybe – MAYBE – if you consider five years of getting a $7500ish raise each year it would make sense. But in one fell swoop? When the front line people are getting bupkis? A rat, I smell one.

  • ken_kukec

    Where’s the Professional Organization of English Majors when you need it?

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Find the librarians too, they don’t fuck around.

  • Jeffery Campbell

    This fine approach soon to be applied to any and all citizens who speak out.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Belasaurius

    “Hero Cop saves school from creeping tide of red socialism”

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      “”Hero Cop saves school from creeping tide of red socialism“”

      Suggested edits: dissent, resistance, common sense, fairness (there’s more but I need more caffeine before my internal thesaurus kicks in)

  • Toledo Window Box

    Trump’s Amerika.

  • middleclassman1

    When everyday workers get a raise it’s usually $500 to $1000 dollars a year maybe $2000 at best when those on the top get a raise it’s usually tens of thousands of dollars.

  • Ωbjectifier

    “I concluded there was no criminal activity on her part.”

    I’d say they was criminal activity on the part of the deputy. How ’bout it Ike?

  • PubOption
    • Mentally Stable Ron

      Prepping the ground before CUTTING teachers’ pay.

    • MamaBrown

      Was it Hillary? I bet it was Hillary.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Help us Ike Funderburk. You’re our only hope.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    The audience in that meeting clearly outnumbered the cop and the school board. How about surrounding the podium while blocking the exit?

    • President in Exile Firefly

      Of course, here I am, after the fact, hundreds of miles away…

    • JohnE_o

      Sir Terry wrote about that:

      Coppers were always outnumbered, so being a copper only worked when people let it work. If they refocused and realized you were just another standard idiot with a pennyworth of metal for a badge, you could end up as a smear on the pavement.

      Terry Pratchett, Night Watch (Discworld, #29)

      • BrianW

        I once read something very similar in a book about the Potempkin mutiny. The author made the point that people obey because they are in the habit of obeying. Once a large group of people realize that a small group of people cannot force their compliance, anything can happen.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Its not just a habit…there’s uncertainty, especially if they’re not sure of back up or they’ve been essentially gaslit:
          “I seem to be the only one who has a problem…maybe I’M wrong.”
          Once people know they have back up and have conviction, habitual obedience doesn’t have a chance.

          • BrianW

            Oh I agree! I was on my phone and so trying to keep it as brief as possible. The rest of the story is that there’s always some precipitating event that will cause the crowd to look around and decide that enough’s enough.

            In the Potemkin mutiny, the ships’ captain had already agreed that the food was bad. Then, a junior officer overreacted to the crew’s grumbling, and called out the ship’s marines with rifles. Even then, it took a few hard-core revolutionaries to get the mutiny started.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Lol, I hear you about the phone…today I’m on a fer realzies computer, with a real keyboard and mouse…..
            *sighs with bliss…*

          • BrianW

            Yes indeed. I dislike typing on my phone.

  • Meanwhile, the cops get raises so they feel comfortable voting against other unions’ interests.

    • JohnBull

      Until the master class screws them over. It’ll happen, and they sure as hell better not expect any sympathy from any teachers. We’ll be too busy working a third job to give a shit.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Except, by then it’ll be far too late because they will be the last group to get discarded.

      • Peripatetic Poltroon

        I wouldn’t bet on that. Police forces have always been the de facto army of the ruling class. It’s generally good policy to keep your army happy, so they know which direction to point their guns.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    IDK why they don’t just cut to the chase and arrest her for educating kids. You know that’s the real crime in their minds FFS.

    • amrak63

      The eternal dilemma of the modern (mis)ruling class:

      How do you educate the young’uns enough that they can keep a high-tech economy merely running, much less innovating, without givin’ ’em ideas which make ’em uppity?

      • Grumpy Twat

        THIS. EXACTLY THIS!

      • TJ Barke

        By not teaching them genuine history.

        • Teecha

          Some of us are bolsheviks. We teach history and encourage kids to go make it.

      • Raan

        And how do you keep their parents from giving them those ideas?

        • amrak63

          Brainwash the parents (and grandparents).

          How? Well, first you repeal the Fairness Doctrine…

      • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

        homeschool em when they’re little, charter school em in a career track, and whatever you do, keep them OUT of Higher Larnin’.

    • Yeah, I’ll be she sneaks in mentions of evolution into her English courses.

    • MamaBrown

      Kids don’t need educating anyway. Jesus is the answer to every question.

    • JohnBull

      Nothing pisses off republicans more than teachers constantly contradicting their dumbass views of white supremacy and authoritarian worship. Then the kids go to college and there’s suddenly 30,000 other people saying your right-wing dad is a moron

  • amrak63

    So the cop is African-American?

    The phrase “House Negro” comes to mind.

    • The Wanderer

      I’m just going to leave the page right now. Thank you for making my fucking blood boil.

    • nightmoth
    • GlobalBeagle

      Does it?
      Are you, in fact, Donald Trump?

      • amrak63

        Uh, no. I was using the phrase the way Malcolm X used it. Please see Nightmoth’s post in this little cluster for details.

      • amrak63

        Would it have been acceptable if I had called him “Uncle Ruckus” instead?

  • The Very Stable Librarian

    The board member ordered that English teacher to stop because he understood her proper verbiage all too well and didn’t like those words. What words would he have preferred?

    • Mentally Stable Ron

      ‘Yes, Massa.’

  • New and Improved Say Wha

    Is our teachers learning?

    • C4TWOMAN

      Is our coppers learning?

  • anon_the_great

    Stupid board. Robert’s does suggest a way to not go full-on gestapo. The way you deal with someone who refuses to shut up is to adjourn for a set period, speak with the outraged party, then reconvene once decorum can be re-established.

    • Mentally Stable Ron

      But then that poor cop wouldn’t have had the opportunity to push around someone who couldn’t fight back!

  • Ike Funderburk is the name of my rockabilly grunge band.

  • tkrepel

    Meanwhile, the superintendent is all weepy about how this went down, though he’s not exactly turning down the pay raise because his pay sucks too (for a school superintendent in Louisiana, anyway):

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vermilion-louisiana-superintendent-jerome-puyau-speaks-out-after-arrest-of-teacher/

  • Teecha

    Fucking grasping teechas. All they want is an easy life. The fuckers start at 9 and finish by 3- have you seen how long their holidays are? And all they do is read a fucking textbook at kids. Fucking babysitters, they don’t deserve more than the minimum wage.
    The real work is done by those in management. They deserve all the extra cash.

    Fuck teechas. Fuck them all.

    • amrak63

      You describe the mentality of an average Trump Chump quite accurately.

      • Teecha

        I’ve heard these true facts from all sorts of people. Not just Tory wankers. The other side accuse of being sausage factories and pushing the government’s agenda to create more factory fodder.

        Everyone loves to hate teechas.

        • Empress of the Iguana People

          and never mind the degrees and continuing ed, we’re just jumped up babysitters or sum crap. :(

          • Teecha

            Plus, anyone could it. Obvs.

          • Empress of the Iguana People

            Their version, yeah. Luckily for kids -they- aren’t the ones in the class room. Unluckily, they’re the ones who pay us. :(

          • Teecha

            It is very well paid in the Middle East. 😀

    • Mentally Stable Ron

      Wow. Serious snark.

      • Teecha

        I’ve been told this shit frequently over the last 17 years.

        An ex of mine was a mildly famous niche musician. He worked maybe 3 evenings a week and drove all over the UK to gig at places where they fed him and paid him and clapped at the end of his work. He could not believe that my job was more stressful than his.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          I challenge these dickheads to spend one day in a classroom teaching. One day. Most of them would be arrested on child abuse charges or hauled off to a padded cell, or both. And I say that as someone who’s only ever taught adults, who were paying to be there (actually in some ways, they are the worst).

          • Teecha

            Whenever I get the one about short days and long hols, I say ‘well, you could train to be a teecha!’

            Funny, I’ve only ever had this answer ‘oh, no, I could not ever do that!’

          • Rebel Scum with permit

            I did that as a poll worker. Obvious Trumptards showed up sneering about fraud, and I’d suggest that they volunteer as a poll worker so they could understand the system. I only ever got blank looks.

          • Teecha

            Every learning environment has its challenges. Private school kids are really entitled ‘my parents pay you to get me good grades’ Alienated kids are really difficult to engage. Normal kids are kids- and kids are fucking weird little buggers.

            The actual worst thing I’ve experienced was the school where a parent rang me up to tell me that because I put his son in detention for disrupting the lesson, he would come up the school and cut my tits off.
            My head teacher didn’t seem to take this seriously so I went to the police. I got a warning for bringing the school into disrepute, until I got my union involved. Then the warning was removed.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Weaponized snark.

        • Teecha

          Thanks!

    • Lefty Wright

      That’s what the GOP NC state legislature said for the first few years in power. They finally had to drop that when entry into state university education programs bottomed out and the few graduating left NC for thousands more in starting pay. What finally got them was SC was paying a lot more, and even Republicans in NC were embarrassed.

      But all was not lost for our GOP. They skewed raises to first time teachers. Most teachers with 20 or more years experience saw little if any of those raises. I guess on the assumption they were more tied to their community and unlikely to bolt for Virginia. It did cause a wave of experienced and highly qualified 50 some year old teachers taking retirement after 30 years.

    • JohnBull

      I’m a second-year teacher and I guess I’ve been lucky so far. Low salary but excellent kids and no officers and our superintendent kind of sticks up for us. This shit (it’s always the south) always bothers me because you know hardly anyone is sticking up for teachers down there.

      • Teecha

        Stay lucky, grasshopper.

        Don’t go looking for trouble- and before you move schools, make sure you know what you’re getting into. Network the fuck out there!

    • MizzMazz

      Dad?

      • Teecha

        Why does everyone think I’m a man?

        • MizzMazz

          Naw, That’s the kind of shit my Dad used to spew. I know teachers, partied with them (they are the best to party with) and I saw how much work and how much of their own money and time they’d put in for their students. I’d hear about all the shit they had to put up with from parents and the school board, during our Friday Happy hours. It slayed me when I learned I was making more running an ice cream parlor than one of my teacher friends, and he’s easily one of the smartest people I knew. I’m on your side, believe me.

          • Teecha

            Thanks for the love! And the reassurance that I don’t type like a man

            It’s a bit different in other countries. Teaching isn’t badly paid in the UK – it’s not well paid in comparison with other graduate professions, but it’s not bad. (Although the lack of a pay rise above 1% for many years mean that it’s not as well-paid as it used to be.)
            And we have budgets for supplies. I’ve bought bits and pieces for schools, but not like American teachers have to. I might take in my own box of tissues, but I don’t buy pens for kids- I use my dept budget.
            Here in Qatar, I’ve spent zero on my classroom. Apart from a staple gun and box of tissues.
            I find it outrageous that teachers pay for basic equipment in their classroom. And for anything more than basic equipment. I see some teachers buying furniture! Fucking madness!

          • MizzMazz

            The US doesn’t value the important things, like who makes sure the water and air are clean and safe, the food is safe to eat, the medicines we take aren’t going to kill us, and those who teach . Especially in early child education, these wonderful people make squat. I’m glad it’s better for you; I wish we could learn from other countries, but we refuse. It’s so rage inducing. Thanks again for what you’re doing – every ex-kid I know has one or more teachers that are their heroes to this day.

  • capnkrunch
    • Teecha

      *gets out red pen
      Chuck, I really enjoy the positivity of your message, and its heartfelt nature. Thanks for the big love!
      To improve, focus on SPAG- think about comma use, capital letters at the start of every sentence and remember infinitely is spelt with more Is than you expect. Copy the correct spelling 10 times in your rough book please.

  • Mentally Stable Ron

    Anyone else think there’s a connection between the election of DJT and the empowerment of wannabe fascists all over the US of A, as we see in this delightful little cautionary tale?

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    YOU’RE OUT OF ORDER! YOU’RE OUT OF ORDER! THIS WHOLE MEETING IS OUT OF ORDER!

    /al pacino

  • GlobalBeagle

    WTF is an armed police officer doing at a school meeting in the first place?
    Where- outside some dictatorship – would this even be a thing?

    • Empress of the Iguana People

      school shootings and shit. Hell, my library has armed officers after school.

      • GlobalBeagle

        Now that is genuinely sad.
        A country that requires armed police at a school is a country that’s gone to sh1t.

        • JohnBull

          “Gone to shit” makes it sound like it’s all our fault. I prefer “turned to shit by the NRA.” It’s more accurate.

          • amrak63

            THIS SO MUCH.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      It’s not unusual to have officers at public meetings like Planning Commission meetings or especially raucous community meetings, at least where I’m from in California. Mostly they are there to answer questions related to law enforcement (have you had any problems in the past with this night club that wants ti upgrade their liquor license?) but are also there in case anyone decides that all this speaking in turn stuff is a crock. In 32 years of meetings, and several governments I’ve never seen anyone removed by police.
      The best way to run things? “If things get out of control, we’ll stop the meeting, pack up, and nobody else gets to talk”.
      This was just bad. When you have a hammer, everything shouldn’t look like a nail.
      And btw, school board meetings are the absolute worst.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Obligatory Mark Twain: ” In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made school boards.”

    • Gorillionaire

      A good friend of mine is a county health inspector in NC, and he has a panic button at his desk to summon the police, because “business owners” will sometimes show up armed and furious about their bad inspection reports.

      • Ducksworthy

        Slumlords can be very unstable. q.v. Trumps, Kushners.

    • amrak63

      Unfortunately, in this alleged democracy, public officials do have to think about such things, because this country is unique among advanced democracies in being saturated with firearms.

      • Ducksworthy

        Are we close to the point of super saturation yet?

    • Werewolf

      Code inspectors in Austin wear ballistic body armor.

      • Damian L

        WTF do you expect conservatives to spend tax money on? Food? Medicine? Education? SMFH

        • Werewolf

          I meant that there are so many damn guns out there that a code inspector stands a good chance of getting shot if he checks on someone’s overgrown lawn or sagging fence.

  • MamaBrown

    Well of course she wasn’t shot. I mean, its not like she’s black or anything. Uppity, sure. Which only requires cuffing in all 50 states.

  • Cornelius Fussbudget

    That cop is gunning for Attorney General. He’s a perfect fit for the Trump administration: public relations by billy club.

  • kaydenpat

    So much for freedom of speech.

  • pstokk

    I would have liked Ike if he had also fired the cop. Until he does, sorry I’m all in for Adlai.

  • Jonny On Maui

    I’m trying to remember the last time I saw such rank cowardice from so many ‘men’.

    • pstokk

      Same could be said for the entire crowd. Doesn’t even matter if you think she should shut up. Talking too long is hardly a hanging offense. Cop does that you all stand up and surround the cop and ask what the fuck. No physical resistance but the moral weight of the group. It’s the root of all decency, always has been, and always will be, since we’ll always have the the little Hitlers with us.
      Blocking the door would also have worked.
      A rousing chorus of “Shame on you” is good for style points.

      • Ducksworthy

        Good advice. We’ll need to keep that in mind in the coming days. Also, do you know a good home remedy for pepper spray?

        • pstokk

          Yeah yeah ok. Point taken. That sounded kind of stupid.
          But in this situation, in a fucking school board meeting? Sometimes a crowd of people can in fact bring a single overreacting cop to his or her senses.
          Some in the crowd did protest, only too few of them and too late, she was already intimidated into leaving.

          • Magnificent Mopery.

            I’m with you on this. I wish the crowd had risen in her defense.

          • churl

            The entire hospital should have jumped the cops in that nurse incident.

        • JohnE_o

          Rinse the affected areas with milk.

    • Rickyphoo

      I’m going to make a huge assumption that the school board is made up of mostly Republicans and therefore, cowardice, in the face of someone pointing out their underhanded dealings, is kinda their thing.

  • Enter Ranting
  • P’jama Pahnts

    From a CNN article: “…underscored the pitfalls of the President’s morning television tweet-alongs”
    golden

  • susan_g

    How long until that cop gets invited to the White House?

    • Ducksworthy

      He could run for the Senate now.

    • Red Richmond

      Well, he’s a blah, so the invite is probably not in the mail just yet. Now, arrest and let some other blahs die in jail, maybe add some flair to that uniform, and maybe…

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Well, he does need more medals on his chest. Real cops have “gotten” lots of medals by now. Sheriff Clarke, send him some of yours, the ones that won’t fit on your uniform.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    “Remaining after having been forbidden.”

    • The Wanderer

      A lot of states and municipalities have that. “Trespass after warning” is the usual construction, but Louisiana, Code Napoleon, etc.

  • John Shippley

    Would that cop treat his mother that way? I have no doubt about it.

  • Bobathonic

    Obligatory for oldz:

    I like Ike.

  • major_asshole

    Louisiana resident and schoolteacher’s son here to point out that there is a very large contingent of teachers pissed the fuck off about this incident but afraid to publicly discuss it for fear of reprisals from school districts.

    • Khavrinen

      Leading one to suspect that there is little difference between the maturity levels of Hargrave’s students and her bosses.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Fuck that, the whole state should be marching in the streets supporting her.

    • this country says it’s about

      A nice statewide teachers’ strike should get their attention.

      This is just another display of the mentality you have been seeing in corporate America – the guy at the top gets all the credit while the people actually in the trenches, who are actually getting the work done, just get more work piled on them without any further compensation. Supposedly the harder you work the more you earn – if class size has gone from 21 up to 29, then in all fairness teacher pay should have increased by 42.8%!

  • JustDon’tSayLikeSmart

    Verily, Ms. Hargrave, thou art the baddest of bad-asses. Forsooth!

  • time for some good old fashioned nationwide protests again.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I was thinking more along the lines of mass rioting and burning, like in the 1960s, but your idea is good, too.

  • Last Hussar

    Well if an English teacher uses the word ‘gotten’ I’m not surprised she hasn’t had a raise.

    • Ellie

      It’s North American English, and found in my dictionary.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      It’s Louisiana, and they tend to talk funny, but I thought she was quite articulate. If I had a kid, I’d be glad to have her teaching the little idiot.

    • Magnificent Mopery.

      Gotten is from Old and Middle English — in England! — from as early as the fourth century, and doubtless made its way in ships — from England! — to North America during the 1600s and 1700s. Just because you, our now-beloved overseas cousins, ditched a perfectly good word — from England! — that does not mean we can’t keep it and use it ourselves, here in young whippersnapper America del Norte.

      • churl

        “Got” it. Yep. Some Americans do have pretensions, ya know. I got, have got, and will have been gotten at some point and I will persist. Got it?

  • Weve tried calling every single one of the school board members. No one is answering phones today.

  • Khavrinen

    There is unfortunately a marked shortage of Ike Funderburks in this country.

  • Ellie

    And Mitch McConnell, after reading this, thought, “Oh! That’s what I should have done when she persisted.”

  • Zyxomma

    Ike Funderburk! What a name.

    This story actually made the noon news here in NYC today, but they didn’t mention Ike. Thanks, Dok.

  • Rickyphoo

    “…— no doubt thrilled to deliver the line — told her, “stop resisting.”

    You know how scofflaws can get all over-dramatic; Hargrave replied, as she got to her feet and was walked away, “I am not — you just pushed me to the floor. I am way smaller than you.” As if that made any difference! He could have shot her if he’d wanted, probably.”

    Two points:

    First, the few times I had to watch the TV show, “Cops” I’ve seen that a dozen times. Some guy, usually black or brown, will be laying on the ground with a half dozen cops on top of him and one of them will be shouting, “stop resisting!” even though the accused is doing no such resisting.

    Second, shooting her, while not out of line for a police officer in general, would be problematic for a the officer in this case as he is black and the victim of said shooting is a white woman.

    God know how that would have played out.

    • HazooToo

      There was some white Australian lady in the US, I think, who called the cops, then went out to meet them in her pajamas and the black cop shot her. I think that’s how it went down. Nothing happened.

  • ken_kukec

    Wow, one minute you’re teaching zit-faced kids about Scout and Jem and Atticus Finch; the next, they’re doin’ a common Omarosa number on you’re ass.

  • blaid droog

    A person of color doing the business of his white masters. Probably a xtian too.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    At this point, our only hope is Ike Funderburk.

    And the ACLU. They’ve taken an interest, and that could make the super’s pay raise rather expensive.

    • phoenix00

      “I’ll need that pay raise to pay the ACLU fine AND the attorneys! The hardship!”

    • Grokenstein

      Just more money to take away from the teachers and students!
      Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    I, for one, am glad that mouthy school teachers, and nurses, are finally getting their comeuppance. Thank you, president Trump!

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    I wonder what would happen if you crossed Ile Funderburk with Chad Thundercock?

    • thixotropic jerk

      Chike Thunfundercockburk, obvs.

  • de_Pizan

    Two of the board members (who voted against the raise) said that the heads of the board have a history of throwing women out of the meetings for supposedly speaking out of turn, but they’ve never thrown any men out for the same reason. http://www.katc.com/story/37220702/teacher-removed-from-vermilion-school-board-meeting-in-handcuffs

    • Grokenstein

      It’s a mystery!

  • Grokenstein

    because isn’t the point of a public meeting for the public to say things?

    Ha ha ha, that’s adorable. Perhaps in the America YOU remember, liebchen.

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