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President Oprah? WHO THE FUCK KNOWS.

Did you watch the Golden Globes on Sunday night? Of course you did, you are gay as hell. Seth Meyers, the sexxxiest host with the mostest, made a joke at the beginning about how he said in 2011 at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner that Donald Trump would never be president, and now look what happened, therefore he needed to tell Oprah Winfrey SHE would never be president of America, OK? You get the joke he was saying?

After the joke, NBC, being silly, which should be obvious to anyone smarter than a stable genius, tweeted this:

Which made one million people lose their shit. Here is one of many tweets on the subject from Drudge:

Anyway, later, Winfrey was presented with the Cecil B. DeMille award, and proceeded to give a speech that BROKE THE FUCKING INTERNET. Not only was it beautiful and rousing and inspirational, some found it … presidential. If you haven’t watched it, please do:

Fabulous, right?

So of course now people are literally spending their time debating the merits of an Oprah candidacy for the 2020 election, and our response is OH PLEASE SHUT UP.

Look, we won’t know if Oprah Winfrey wants to run for president. She says she doesn’t, but maybe she does secretly want to in her heart, and if she wants to, that’s fine, it’s a free country (for now). If she does, we’ll cross that bridge in 2019 when the primaries get going. THAT IS NEXT YEAR AND WE HAVE MIDTERMS TO WIN FIRST, OK?

And yeah yeah yeah, we’ve all learned the lesson of having a “businessman” be president, but it was a particularly shitty con-man failure of a businessman, and while we really really really would like NO MORE CELEBRITIES IN THE OVAL OFFICE, and to have a president with actual political experience in 2020, we also trust Oprah Winfrey knows how to read a book and doesn’t have such a big ego that she wouldn’t surround herself with ACTUAL experts and listen to them if she were to run and/or win. (Coincidentally, this was our primary personal justification for supporting Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton in 2008, despite his inexperience.)

And yeah, if Winfrey ran, we would also have to contend with how she foisted Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz on America, because fuck her anti-science “experts.”

But it is JANUARY 8, 2018, and WHAT DID WE JUST SAY ABOUT HOW WE HAVE MIDTERMS TO WIN THIS YEAR?

Can we just let this awesome, beautiful Oprah speech be an awesome, beautiful Oprah speech and let it go at that? YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!

And that is what Wonkette has to say about that.

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  • OrG

    I would vote for Oprah in a heartbeat.

    • lovelydestruction

      I would, but then I remembered that I saw my first ever Scientology commercial on OWN, just sandwiched between whatever else they were selling.

      • chezmoi

        Eeeeeuuuuwwww!

      • Bill O’Neil

        That is the problem with celebrities, no telling what skeletons will fall out of the closet (think Al Franken).

        • lovelydestruction

          I think Al Franken is a good man who was sacrificed for questionable reasons . In particular, the”he squeezed my waist” chick really needs to take a fucking seat.

          • stablegeniusahughes798

            Agree 100%.

    • MynameisBlarney

      I won’t after just learning she’s anti-atheist.

      • SkinlessGenderlessMan

        Yeah, for me the problem is her raising “Drs.” Phil and Oz to their current level of acceptance.

        • Bananas Foster

          I already had a problem with her for that.

          (I mean, would we want her making appointments related to health and science?)

          But the atheist thing kinda makes her dead to me.

        • little miss high and mighty

          Raising the more,more more more more (€€$$$$$) capitalist bullshit to the highest regard amoung her dupes and dupesses.
          The anti Malthus candidate. The anti Ghandi The anti Christian, anti Buddhist anti jane sixpack. Nobody would sit for beers with her and her aqua velva is 7k$ per bottle

        • JMP

          Along with all sorts of anti-science alternative “medicine” bullshit, including anti-vaccination conspiracy theories, and of course The Secret. Ugh, no.

        • Popillius

          She was big on that stupid “The Secret” thing where if you wish on it hard enuf you will get it. GAH that seems a lot gullible to me.

      • James

        I’ve known it for quite a while.

        Oprah is quite religious as are Hillary Clinton and Jimmy Carter, but the latter two don’t try to paint us as “others.”

        We have enough wingnuts trying to do that; I don”t want someone allegedly in the Democratic camp trying to do the same.

  • James

    a) No thanks. She has no government experience.
    b) She’s in the same camp as GHW Bush on wondering why atheists should be allowed to be citizens.

  • Nounverb911
    • The Wanderer

      Upfist for Silent Movie ref.

    • frrolfe

      Marceau / Chaplin 2020!!

  • Jenny

    Meh. Not really into it, but at least she’s a self made billionaire unlike some other daddy coat tail riding buffoon we all know.

  • beatbort

    No to any Oprah presidential run. No more TV celebrity vibe. However, a big YES to her getting out on the campaign trail throughout this summer and into the fall to turn the Congress, both houses, blue.

    • stablegeniusahughes798

      I agree, because even most of the people in the red states like her. Except Nazis.

      • Clark_Nova

        That’s a big ‘except’ in the South today.

        • stablegeniusahughes798

          I think a lot of white southern women probably watch Oprah. And like her, whereas I’m a white northern woman who doesn’t watch her and can’t stand her.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Nounverb911

    Did donnie set fire to trump tower to distract from Oprah’s trending?
    https://twitter.com/Rschooley/status/950257291953020928

    • Shibusa

      Time for some rage-tweeting to get attention back on Orange Foolius.

  • Iron Monkey

    Right on, Evan. People are treating the mid-terms like a wave election that has already happened. Better pick your House or Senate campaign and plan to get busy on it.

    • little miss high and mighty

      and be serious.please!

    • chezmoi

      And don’t forget about your local elections, too – we have cities, counties, and states to flip.

  • little miss high and mighty

    NO
    just no
    now we gotta run
    paytime’s over for us today

    remember
    No Oprah!
    Lefties will run for the hills or else stay home.
    Just no!

    • Parakeetist

      Poem?

      • little miss high and mighty

        We need a Citizen/Caeser Cincinnatus, not an Empress Maria Theresia who cannot get enough of her too much, too much.

        • The Wanderer

          Maria Theresa was actually quite an able ruler and a hard-working administrator.

          • little miss high and mighty

            Imelda (shoe queen) Marcos, then, not good M.T.

          • The Wanderer

            There ya go.

          • frrolfe

            Catherine The Great or GTFO.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    No, I don’t want her to run either and for all the reasons everyone is thinking. Though if she ran for something and I could vote for her, I would. As a beloved public figure who’s a hell of a speaker and who knows a lot of rich people, she’s probably a more important political force as a campaigner and fund-raiser. But for a few hours this morning it’s nice to fantasize about a time when we love and admire the President.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Also too, and I’m only pointing this finger at myself, but I am certainly noticing that after Oprah’s big “Me Too” speech, I (a white man) seem to be in a bit of a hurry to explain why an accomplished black woman should, in effect, know her place in the great big scheme of things. So I want to maybe step away from the internet and reflect on that. Again, only pointing that finger at myself.

      • Parakeetist

        Don’t make me drink vodka. It’s too early.

      • James

        My problem is not with her being an African-American woman as a white man myself. My issue is with her promoting woo and her anti-atheist bias.

  • Nounverb911
  • Grokenstein

    Maybe we could elect the people who wrote the speech for her.

    • Nounverb911

      I’d rather elect Obama’s speech writers then.

  • ((( Augustus )))

    TV people aren’t normal and really shouldn’t make any decisions about anything or anyone other than TV

    • Ducksworthy

      TVland is very different from this world. You see it in little matrix-like glitches. Like people tightening lug nuts by turning them counterclockwise.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Deja-vu!

      • Clark_Nova

        You need left-handed lug nuts if you’re going to race in reverse.

  • Squeegee

    “Women are more important than men because they can physically produce more men….we take over from there”

    Michael Pence said that once.

    • Nounverb911

      Mother told him to say that.

      • Squeegee

        Because they produce more men for Michael Pence to play footise with under the stalls of the men’s restrooms in Union Station down in DC ammmmrite?

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Men “physically produce” people! They just need a little, ah, assistance from women. Just a quick 9 months, no big deal.

      • Cosmic Owl 2

        Shelter from the storm, say.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        “Sure, but the homunculus comes from the dude, that’s what matters.”
        — Ghost of a medieval natural philosopher

        “So, what you’re saying is, guys do the ‘hard part’?”
        — Modern alt-righter

        ” ‘Hard part’ I get it! We think so much alike!”
        — Ghost of a medieval natural philosopher

        • Opalescent Riddles

          Not so much ‘do’ as ‘have’.

          You get it? How often?

      • The Wanderer

        The ancient Greeks believed that.

    • Shibusa

      I recall an old op-ed in which Pence cited ‘Mulan’ as actual evidence for why women shouldn’t be allowed to serve in the US military.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        That op-ed provides a pretty good example as how Dense should never be in any military chain-of-command.

    • stablegeniusahughes798

      He’s wrong, unless human females suddenly become parthenogenic.

      • Shan

        Well, then we only get more females.

        • Darlene Underdahl

          Females all the way down.

          • Shan

            That’s ok. I hear the Swiss are working on an artificial penis.

          • chezmoi

            Will the next generation say of their well-oiled machines, “It’s working like a Swiss penis!” ?

        • Erala Contratista

          Ask any aphid you happen to see….*trills tunelessly*

    • Bananas Foster

      So, since I’m not into baby making, I have no purpose, right?

      *disappears in a poof of logic*

  • Squeegee

    Pence just finished watching the first season of The Handmaid’s Tale and it gave him some really good ideas to bring up at his next WH meeting with Trump….

    • Ducksworthy

      Like making Pence President this year.

      • Squeegee

        I remember when I lived in Indiana Pence got VERY hot and bothered under the collar by the gays…it made him very fidgety…couldn’t sit still…had to do something to make them submit to his control…to prove that he could remove it from their system

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Mother it’s not my fault I knocked up the kitchen maid…turns out I’m color blind.”
      — Dystopian Mike Pence

  • Mpeg

    If she would giveaway new leaders rather than become one herself … that’s what I’m picturing. “Now you get a new President… and YOU get one, and YOU GET A NEW PRESIDENT — EVVVVRYbody gets a New President!”
    #thankgodalmighty

  • The Wanderer

    Sure, why not? We’ve already had a possible closet case, an ineffectual meatbag, a guy with Daddy issues, a former actor and a complete village idiot hold the job.

    • little miss high and mighty

      exactly1! what is the probabiity we coud dodge a 5th bullet?

    • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

      why do you have to use such language when talking about Buchanan?

      • The Wanderer

        Because he’s dead. What can he do? Rot all over me?

        • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

          I’d just say that pretty much everyone in Washington, DC was well aware of his bromance with Rufus King, so saying he was “in the closet” is a bit much.

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Was there even a way to be “out of the closet” back then?

          • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

            be President Buchanan?

        • Like Really Smart Radio

          Weird kink.
          (No judgement)

          • The Wanderer

            (checks list) No, not one of mine.

          • Like Really Smart Radio

            Cool, cool

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Don’t forget, multiple racists, including me!”
      — Woodrow Wilson

      “And genocidal racist me!”
      — Andrew Jackson

      “And philanderers who viewed women as disposable.”
      — JFK and Harding, in chorus

    • Clark_Nova

      Far more than ONE ineffectual meatbag. But they were all preferable to the shitgibbon.

  • Parakeetist

    She’s not going to run. Everybody stop throwing their phones on the floor.

    She has promoted some dumb shit before. But, her speech was good in itself.

    I can admire the speech without shitting myself.

    Can it with the self-righteousness.

  • shastakoala

    Obama gave out phones. Can’t wait for my Oprah car!

    • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

      Bamz gave out Cash4Clunkers, so Oprah had better give me a house to go with my Oprah car.

    • dslindc
      • The Wanderer

        NONOTTHEBEES!!111!!!!!!!!1

      • Doug Langley

        The B Team.

      • amrak63

        And YOU get a bee! And YOU get a bee! And YOU get a bee! EVERYONE gets a bee!

      • Shibusa

        Looking forward to the “I hive a dream” speech.

        • stablegeniusahughes798

          During which she must wear a bee hive hair-do.

      • amrak63

        Now we know what happened to the bees–Oprah’s been hoarding them!

    • katkelly57

      Funny how all those anti-Obama slugs didn’t/don’t realize that 43 started the free phone program.

  • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

    this is why I support Lorax 2020: because it’s 2018 and we have midterms and probably some municipals and at least a few constitutionals around the country before we start voting in the 2020 presidential race.

    YES WE UNLESS! UNLESS WE YES!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bec9ae177c0a851da119f6cb3db573feeb3c98bcfed98e2e40d65ef6d552ce8.jpg

  • Asterix

    The whole narrative about 2018 being a Blue Wave really worries me. That thought process will keep people from going out to vote. We have to WORK, and work hard, to flip Congress and Statehouses this year. 2018 is far more important than 2020 and should be the sole focus of dems/libs/progressives right now.

    • Parakeetist

      Yes, let’s pee ourselves in fear.

      • chezmoi

        No, let’s stay energized and get folks excited about being the people in ‘of, by, and for the people’.

        Not fear, but maybe some righteous anger at all the things that corporations and the wealthy are taking away from us, the citizens, would be in order. Things like our clean and safe air, food, water, soil, workplaces, and especially clean politics.

        Time to clean house.

    • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

      next you’re going to say that we really screwed up in 2010 as an example of how important midterms are!

      • Clark_Nova

        Keep in mind the disaster of ’94 when the party completely alienated 1/3 of their own voters with the so-called ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban. They didn’t know squat about rural and (Non-Californian) western state Dems and they still don’t.

    • Shibusa

      A clear message would be good for Democrats–and not just “Trump is awful.”

      • Clark_Nova

        Dems have TWO messages and they’re 180 degrees out of phase with each other.

    • stablegeniusahughes798

      Yep. Reminds me of when Dems thought Trump had NO chance of becoming president, and became complacent. And it was not that long ago.

  • CripesAmighty
    • stablegeniusahughes798

      Noprah.

  • Crystalclear12

    I have yet to recover from the last presidential election so stop picking at it!

  • Darlene Underdahl

    “Anyone can be president” should only refer to a level playing field for children. I like Oprah, I listen to her and read what she writes. But no more amateurs!

    • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

      not just anyone can be president? next you’re going to say that a person has to be a natural-born citizen and over the age of 36!

    • The Wanderer

      All snark aside, she shouldn’t run. You’re correct; we’ll need a well-qualified pro to mop up the splatter from this insane, shit-flinging regime.

      • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

        oh, like you’ve never flung your own feces or the feces of someone else.

        • The Wanderer

          No, never have.

          • Bell the Blind Tiger MCD

            a likely story.

            by the way, hudson would like to know if you are supporting the Lorax 2020 ticket during 2018.

        • Hiss

          Few of us have, until recently. Say post-election.

    • bbayliss

      “Anyone can be president”…
      We need to rethink that

      • CripesAmighty

        AFTER being city councilwoman, mayor, county commissioner, state legislator, congressperson, governor, senator…

        • Clark_Nova

          In my opinion, her major ‘pro’ item is that she isn’t a lawyer.

  • Bananas Foster

    I just learned about Oprah’s bias against atheists and now I’m ragey.

  • coozledad

    White America has the president it deserves. “Grabby little realtor shit” describes about a quarter of Trump’s voters, and for the other three quarters it’s a fucking goal. They voted in a guy who’s separating families, and we’re seeing the kind of looking away from the wreckage that the German people indulged in WWII.

    I’ve heard Republicans say the SPLC has outlived it’s purpose. Now you’ve got Bernie surrogates falling in line with the anti-immigration right.

    Take the white consensus across these groups and you’ve got the nut of the problem. They will give you their god damn wallet if you can make them pants-shitting scared, and frankly, once they hit old age, they’re all scared shitless. TV preachers and Republican jacklegs can just waltz into their homes and pick their fucking pockets. And at this point, the dumbasses who vote for these weasels have fuck all to give. Except their social security.

    And now that shit is going to be gone too.

    I can’t say I’m sorry to see them fucked so hard. A majority of them earned it.

    • stablegeniusahughes798

      But the rest of us have to suffer for it.

      • coozledad

        That was literally part of the attraction of it for them.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Of course the vile racist filth that are the Trumpanzees are outraged that NBC made a joke about Oprah being President, because as entertainers go, she’s far more qualified that a certain reality TV host to sit in the Oval Office.

  • Indiepalin

    If Oprah wins, everybody in American will receive a free VCR.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      I was holding out for a Victrola, myself…

    • jesuswasablack
      • stablegeniusahughes798

        Betamax was SOOOOOO much better than VHS, in every way. I was sad when it went away.

        • paxpax

          I had one!!

        • Clark_Nova

          I used to repair both. The BetaMax, while capable of better video, was an absolute mechanical horrorshow inside. As they aged, some parts in the tape path had to be bent by hand to keep them running. Heads wore out faster, too. VHS was a vastly more durable design that required minimal maintenance.

  • janecita

    Damn Oprah, making me ugly cry right before my 10:30 meeting. Now I have mascara all over my face. I don’t want Oprah to be president, but I would be perfectly fine with her becoming the next Pope, that woman can preach!

  • geoffalnutt

    Someone else said it…and it bears repeating: “Too much woo”! I’d want a completely
    clear-eyed, critically-thinking person at the helm – because when push comes to shove who is calling the shots – the big woo in the sky, or them? When you’ve ‘got the woo’ you can no longer be trusted.

  • jesuswasablack

    Oprah aint running for anything, she’s too busy selling her O’that sucks comfort gruel to a desperately fat nation, girl got bank to make! You know what comes next:
    http://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/jim-bakker-buy-food-buckets-beca.jpg

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Jim needs a new Caddy! Send those love gifts in now!

      • weejee

        Jim needs to be called home. NOW

        • Blanche de Shambles

          Eventually, he will be crushed when one of those bucket walls on his set gets too high and collapses.

          The last thing he will hear is trumpets.

          • Clark_Nova

            A rim-shot would be better than trumpets.

        • just_jim

          Not going to happen. Satan likes him just where he is. No way he’s going to call him to hell.

  • Christopher Story

    If I were going to promote a celebrity woman for President 2020, there’s only one: Rachel Maddow. Think about it, not only does she have a Ph.D. in political science, but she’s spent decades of her life now, studying and reporting on the day to day functions of our government. The players, the policies, the innate dynamics.

    • (((Sedagive)))

      She’s way too good for politics (and far too sane).

    • Mentally Stable Ron

      This is why she needs to be right where she is. Good government doesn’t just require good governors, it also requires knowledgeable outsiders who can critique its actions.

      • Opalescent Riddles

        So much this. I’d also be satisfied with another Rachel taking over RM’s show if she were Preznit. The point is, we need qualified people in both positions, one to lead, the other to enforce accountability.

    • Ellie

      Rachel for Prez! But, not really. I’d rather she stayed as a gadfly, bothering all those politicians.

      • Christopher Story

        I don’t know… Passing an NHS, expanding the social safety net, naturalizing Dreamers, rescheduling marijuana or simply doing away with it on the schedule at all… I think these are things that would seriously bother our current Republicans quite thoroughly.

        • Ellie

          Point taken.

  • Nounverb911
  • (((Sedagive)))

    Great speech. Sounds like the America I remember.

    I had a brief run-in with Oprah’s boss (that’s right) – Head of Discovery Communications, and one of the most powerful men in media.

    He was very angrily talking to her on his phone. She appeared to be angrily talking back. Everyone else in the room was adoringly kissing his ring. Before that I had been neutral on Oprah, but she stood up to the BOSS.

    Reading down thread: didn’t know she was anti-atheist and pro-scientology. That’s some disqualifying shit right there. No one who is anti-science gets in the door. Deal killer.

    Now George Clooney on the other hand…

  • Tetman Callis

    What Evan said: MIDTERMS.

    MIDTERMS COME FIRST. FOCUS, PEOPLE.

    • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

      YES. That’s where the real power is.

  • James

    Don't forget that Oprah pushed Trump to run. And don't forget that Trump wanted Oprah to be his vice president. https://t.co/A3LwtYa2d3— Reseth (@ResethO) January 8, 2018

    • Ellie

      I don’t forget. I’ve been watching the SOB since 1980 when he told his stupid fairy tale about why he didn’t save the ladies on the top of the Bonwit Teller building. He is the same lump of sludge, but he was once more articulate. Oprah is a fine actress and I applaud her for that. Her taste in causes is not always something I applaud.

  • Edith Prickly, Stable Genius

    No no no no NO, no more celebrity candidates please. No Mark Zuckerberg, no Oprah, no Dwayne Johnson, no anyone else with a famous name and no experience governing. Just NO.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Zippy the Pinhead 2020!!!

      • BreakingDeadMen

        are we the third world yet?

        • amrak63

          Yes.

        • stablegeniusahughes798

          No, just getting there quickly.

          • Clark_Nova

            We’re at the point where instead of (R) after Repuglican names, we should use (BR) for Banana Republican.

      • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

        Donuts & taco sauce for everyone!!

    • jesuswasablack

      Amy Klobuchar

      • bbayliss

        NO

    • sarafina

      Al Franken

      • lovelydestruction

        I’d love it, but I would hate the clown circus that burst into flames and followed him around forever.

  • jesuswasablack

    If anyone can go toe to toe with tRumps narcissism, over inflated sense of self, general manic behavior and tacky home decor it’s Oprah!
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VHrIotNAhxo/Uol5ZdIICsI/AAAAAAAAKmM/SU0QPeaMTsI/s1600/o-OPRAH-facebook.jpg

  • BreakingDeadMen

    Cut put the middleman, no taxation without representation, etc: if we don’t clean up in 2018, we should explore Putin 2020

    • coozledad

      Shit, we’ve already got him if it’s taken this long for people to realize he owns the Republican party.

      The Republican calculation now almost has to be “We’ve got the cops. We’ve got the fundie high command of the military. What in the fuck do you think you can do against that?”

      They’re waving that challenge in our faces.

      • amrak63

        I doubt many members of our Armed Forces would betray our country for Mommie Dearest Russia, our old adversary.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Right, they are the middlemen. Fuck the Republicans. Either we replace them in 2018 or lets just go direct to Putin.

        • Clark_Nova

          We’ll have to shut Twitter and Facebook down for a year or two by ANY MEANS NECESSARY. They’re both run by Putin’s ‘useful idiots’.
          Otherwise, we’ll lose again.

  • Cosmic Owl 2

    Just Say No!

  • Shibusa

    This is an interesting read, about how Trump uses the Twitter to manipulate. http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/california-forum/article193085404.html

  • Msgr_MΩment

    I’m totally in the tank for her sisters Ohcuorg and Ocihc.
    /crypto-Marxist

    • amrak63

      What happened to Oppez and Ommug?

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Everyone forgets about Ommug.

        • Opalescent Riddles

          And Lrak! And Drahcir!

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    MIDTERMS MIDTERMS MIDTERMS….LALALALALALA…..I CAN’T HEAR YOU….MIDTERMS MIDTERMS MIDTERMS…

  • Tennessee Rain Genius

    I’m sorry to be a turd in the punch bowl, but I was a teeny bit disappointed that she only spoke of female victims of sexual harassment/abuse when we know that while they are the majority, it’s not limited exclusively to them. My thoughts turned to Kevin Spacey’s young victims, for example, while she was speaking.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Brevity is the soul of wit/making it to your point before the commercial break. She probably just chose “women” because they were the largest and most representative victim group that her audience would be familiar with.

      • Kooolest G

        probably also because she is one, she also didn’t talk about asians in hollywood, or the plight of the royhinga

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      No. no no no no no no no. This is called “whataboutism” and just. No.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      I do agree that male victims deserve recognition and care just as much as female victims do.

      In fact, I said exactly that many, many times during the whole outcry over priests abusing children, when, despite the fact that, from what I read, female victims outnumbered male victims, media attention was given almost exclusively to male victims of abuse.

  • But did you not know that Oprah was within a 10-mile radius of Harvey Weinstein? And that just shows…er…something…I dunno, but Twitter trolls think it’s the equivalent as assaulting and molesting women. (You know, how, like when Hillary was photographed next to the Donald that one time and that PROVES they are exactly the same?) 😑🙄

  • BigCSouthside

    Oprah Winfrey/Michelle Obama 2020:

    Fuck your “economic anxiety”

    • Today NPR found anxious farmers.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    This weekend was the US Figure Skating Championships*. I found out something called “Golden Golubs” happened this morning after I came up for air following the Big Extravaganza of Top Skaters Who Didn’t Win performance, so I missed the whole thing.

    *US Champs goes on for 10 days, starting with the little guys. Skating fans watch All Of It. I missed the entire arctic freeze and possibly forgot to eat.

  • looksquirrels

    Thank you once again, Evan. My Twitter feed was giving me the fantods this AM.

  • UnsaltedSinner

    Oprah is very good at what she does. She should keep doing that.

  • Snork Maiden

    The Pod Save America Guys interviewed Meyers just before the GG. They suggested he say the stuff about Oprah that he said at the 2011 WHCD. Yeah for Lovett and Favreau

  • ltmcdies

    I’m kind of the opinion that president is a job description and as such needs …oh I don’t know….experience in government and the legislative process…

    OTOH…Oprah has been asked a couple of times about running or office..said not interested and she didn’t announce anything last night so…

    how’s about the internet STFU….

  • Zyxomma

    Thanks, Evan. Perfectly said. VOTE!!

  • Zippy W Pinhead
  • Zippy W Pinhead

    As long as Dr Phil isn’t VP or Dr Oz isn’t surgeon general…

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      To me, those are Oprah’s Sarah Palins. I will never forgive her for foisting the upon the public.

      • Bezoar

        Thank you, I agree.

  • goonemeritus

    I didn’t watch the Golden Globes because I’m very very butch. I watched the Bill’s get their ass kicked, I split firewood and watched a John Wayne movie. And no I’m not over compensating, why would you say that, what have you heard?

    • President in Exile Firefly

      And ate nails for dinner.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Maybe compensating just the right amount

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Also, I never watch award shows even though I am super incredibly, like, really gay, but that is a sea of black attire and it makes me proud.

  • Bezoar

    Well, I’ve heard rousing speeches before, speeches that said many things I wanted to hear, but the world hasn’t been changed much by them.

  • Snopes Shop

    No. Oprah does not get to be president of the United States. Sorry.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    Yeah, I love Oprah, but the president talk has to be coming from Kochbots and Russian trolls, because jeez.

    I mean, the last time NBC spit-polished a celebrity and aimed him in the general direction of Pennsylvania Avenue, we got the Great Orange Lackwit, the Cheeseburger Presidency, and Javanka®.

    Enough. Even though Oprah is great to the nth power (do not for one instant think I am comparing the wondrous Oprah to the idiot King of Koch), we do not need any more celebrity candidacies clogging up the national arteries here.

    We are in dire, dire trouble. We need seasoned, serious women and men to haul the poor old country out of the danger zone.

    • Clark_Nova

      My first thought was that the Democrats had found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory AGAIN and this time 3 years before the election.

  • calliecallie

    Despite our current predicament with teevee start turned president, I think there is merit to the idea of Oprah running. But just in the primary, to bring attention to the whole field of candidates, attention by a whole swath of electorate that usually doesn’t care that much. But that notion is predicated on the idea that she would not win the nomination, but that some seasoned, qualified political veteran ultimately would be the Democratic candidate, with Oprah’s strong support.

  • James

    Yesterday a tweet about the Golden Globes and Oprah Winfrey was sent by a third party agency for NBC Entertainment in real time during the broadcast. It is in reference to a joke made during the monologue and not meant to be a political statement. We have since removed the tweet.— NBC (@nbc) January 8, 2018

    Don't forget that Oprah pushed Trump to run. And don't forget that Trump wanted Oprah to be his vice president. https://t.co/A3LwtYa2d3— Reseth (@ResethO) January 8, 2018

  • Khavrinen

    Putting aside the issues of whether or not she’s qualified, or wants to run, my first thought on hearing this was the size of the man-baby temper tantrum Trump would throw at having to compare his ratings to Oprah’s. Might cause his BigMac overloaded heart to explode.

  • NotALiar

    Oprah was the first black woman to receive what award ? I couldn’t hear that part.

  • Donna Mueller

    NOPE

  • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

    Have to admit, even when I still had television, I never watched award shows. They’re one of those things I just don’t “get”, like, if you or someone you love (PERSONALLY, not omg I ~LURVE~ them!!11!1) isn’t up for an award, why would you even care? If you saw the movie/show or listened to the music & liked it, cool. If not, cool. It won’t look or sound better or worse because someone got a statue for it. i guess it’s one of those human customs I’ve just never managed to grok.

    • SpideySenser

      I ~L̶U̶R̶V̶E̶ LOATHE~ them!!11! is more my style.

  • PixieThis

    Thank you, Evan! People need to calm down about a celebrity president. I want someone with real political experience. Let her run for mayor of a city or a state office first. Why do all these “famous” people think (or why do we think it about them) that they can just be president? We can see the problem with that in real life, right now. And if you want a strong, smart, talented black woman for president – I give you Kamala Harris (currently my first choice for 2020). Now let’s get to work on those midterms!

    • M.E. Lawrence

      K.H. is a possibility for 2020, and perhaps an even realer possibility for 2024, when she’ll be so experienced that the Rethugs will tremble and hide. In either case, Oprah could campaign for her. I like Kamala in attack mode; I will always cherish her interrogation of the unspeakable (and unspeaking) Jeff Sessions.

    • Clark_Nova

      Great speech. Hire her to write speeches for whoever the Democrats run (and I hope to god it isn’t Gillibrand)

    • newscat01

      PixieThis You make some great points. If Oprah were truly interested in public service she would have already run for a municipal office; it’s not a good sign that she sees only the top job as her rightful place.

  • Bitter Scribe

    I’m kind of meh about Oprah in general. She has an ego that rivals Trump’s. I mean, who the hell puts out a magazine devoted entirely to herself?

    Again like Trump, she likes to throw her weight around (and no, that’s not a fat joke). She’s gone on vendettas against journalists and others who offend her. That’s the sure sign of a thin skin, and we’ve already seen what having a thin-skinned president is like.

    • TundraGrifter

      At least she wouldn’t have to post fake magazine covers – since she’s on the cover of every issue and all.

    • C4TWOMAN

      I won’t argue she has an ego….you kinda gotta if Hollywood is your business. But there’s ample evidence she really cares about people and has used her show as a platform to that end.
      She’s not always right but I respect her.
      That said she’s not qualified for the presidency.
      That said her qualifications dwarf Trump, but so does the average howler monkey….

    • everstar

      My brother and I enjoy her Favorite Things list every year because it’s so silly and overpriced. Plus at this point it’s got to be “Things I Thought Were Just Okay.”

    • Anomandaris

      Obama was terrible I agree.

  • Rick Prose

    Absolutely spot on, Evan!

  • Jgb979

    All due respect: and I have plenty for Oprah, both professionally for being an ACTUAL self-made billionaire and also as a person.

    But until she provides the first policy positions, absolutely no way.

    What we need now more than anything else is someone to sell the “unapologetically left wing-liberal government will actually leave 95% of you better off than before” narrative.

  • miss_grundy

    Yes, it was a very good speech. No, I never want to see another “celebrity” run for the highest office in the land. Don’t forget that she also gave us Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, Iyanla Vanzant and Suze Orman.

    • Whollyholeyholy

      I said, “No celebrities, let’s not make this the de facto path to the presidency.” Two minutes later I thought, “Wellllll…on the other hand, the stigginit scales totally flip.” Right after that I see some of the most right wing brainwashed Hillary hating women “liking” the Oprah speech and I am all, “President Oprah it is, then.”

      • miss_grundy

        Considering that all of those right wing, brainwashed misogynists voted for Dotard should tell you that it is only about celebrity worship. And celebrities aren’t geniuses. Sorry, they are not. Oprah has launched the careers of a few people, including Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz and she did that because as guests on her program they provided high ratings. But we can already see from Dotard’s administration that running a presidential administration should not look like an episode of a reality show. So, NO! Oprah gave a good speech. She made some good points but as a president- -Hell, NO!

        • SDGeoff3

          You go, miss grundy!!

        • Whollyholeyholy

          This “all about celebrity” is not really new, it is just getting worse. The greater stage presence always wins in the presidential race. Julian Castro should be a serious contender because he does the public presence thing exceptionally well. Experience is nigh irrelevant. That’s what “likable enough” means, really. We just happen to currently have a showman with no other attributes to recommend. I have voted for all the nerds and wonks. The United States of America doesn’t.

  • Paperless Tiger

    I don’t know anything about her except that she is a celebrity, the same as I know about Trump. If they come on TV, I change the channel. How they survived the invention of the remote control, I could not tell you.

  • nightmoth

    Wow. Thanks for posting that speech. No tv, so hadn’t heard it until now. I didn’t know that back story of Rosa Parks re: Recy Taylor, either, so i learned something new, and important. Any speculation about an Oprah run, though, is as silly and as big a waste of time as guessing which Kardashian is getting a divorce. We have mid-terms to win!

  • Anne Of Green Bagels

    Oprah Winfrey/Gayle King 2020.

    shut up.

    • KenTFM

      NO! NO! NO! (sorry I’m from CT and most of us are happy Oprah was good enough stop by and pick up her trash)

      Oprah Winfrey/Kamala Harris (or vice versa) 2020. THAT would be a helluva formidable ticket.

    • miss_grundy

      NO!

    • Anomandaris

      First lesbian couple in the WH!!!!

  • Last Hussar

    I think one host of crappy TV is enough.

  • AdmNaismith

    Oprah has a lot to answer for in quote Doctors unquote Oz and Phil. A LOT.

  • Khaleesisdoormat

    I’d like to know what her policies are on a large number topics before I anoint her “next president” on the basis of one very good speech.
    Her selection of Dr. OZ in particular casts serious doubt about her abilities to wisely choose experts.

    • newscat01

      Khaleesisdoormat – I agree with you, but what policies does Oprah embrace? The American people have been listening to dotard for so long that another self-impressed celebrity delivering a speech without embarrassing herself just knocks their socks off!

      • Saint Stephen

        The bar has been lowered so much that the main thing I think of about Oprah (or anybody else, for that matter) running for President is “at least it’s a step up from Trump.”

    • SDGeoff3

      Dr Oz, Surgeon General. Sounds like a pathetic sitcom.

  • JParkerSD46

    Well said, Evan. It’s way to damn soon to start pushing anyone for 2020. And after Reagan and El Dotardo, I never want to see another show-biz person in the WH, ever. You’re right. Let’s beat the living hell out of the Repugnicans and Regressives and religious fundies in the ’18 mid-terms. Let that be a starting point. Oh, and also too, let’s see if we can’t find some new and fresh minds for the task, ones who aren’t beholden to anyone. Who knows. There may actually be such creatures in existence.

    • Sean Christian Homes

      You know people like you who claim to be so tolerant than open-minded sit there and call people religious fundies. youre your own worst enemy cheering on the biggest asshle scammers and dont even know it.
      You want higher taxes, illegal immigration, criminals, hillary lawyer types making full asses out of you… john edwards john kerry.. all tje asshles you vote for who are huge pieces of sht… i guess pieces of sht find other sht attractive. Obviously by your arrogant little mouth and hypocrisy you fall for bs … youre tje perfect idiot for the democrat party

      • JParkerSD46

        And you have a blessed day, too.

      • righteous mob

        And you’re just the perfect idiot.

      • This here is a great lesson in hypocrisy. Start by screaming you hurt my fee fees!!! Proceed to call him every name under the book.
        Hey Sean. Christian you are not.

      • HooverVilles

        From the mouth of a “compassionate” CONservative.

      • norcalOG

        Got the perfect guy for a Christian, Sean. A pussy grabbing adulterer who says he LOVES debt, proven by the fact he once bankrupted a casino. A guy kept afloat by a &14 Million loan from his father, who also started him in business with gift of a $Million (about $5 Million intoday’s dollars).
        Same guy who knows more than his generals but whose knowledge of the world is equivalent to a remedial fifth grader. The same guy, btw, whose understanding of Christianity was similar mine…when I was eight.
        Now, who’s the perfect idiot?

        • miss_grundy

          He bankrupted three casinos, by the way. Now, how can anyone possibly do that? By opening three casinos in Atlantic City and allowing them to cannibalize each other.

      • thixotropic jerk

        Such a purty purty commenting history there Homes! Like this shit nugget:

        “You seem pretty cool with blacks murdering thousands of people every year shooting and raping everybody look at the statistics and why don’t you take a walk through the Bronx at night see them come out in front of sloppy all over the place a little kiss ass”

        Y U SO MAD BRO????

      • Anomandaris

        It’s not illegal immigration. The proper term is slave labour.

  • everstar

    I would not support Oprah for president because I would like to return government to the hands of people who have experience with it. That said, she is an amazing lady, and I will watch and applaud her speech at my first opportunity.

    • DainBramage

      I have a real problem with her repeated, enthusiastic pushing of alternative medicine (magic woo) on her show. She showed zero critical thinking or skepticism on this topic.

      • HooverVilles

        Agree.

    • I would not support Oprah for president because I would like to return government to the hands of people who have experience with it.

      This is the precise reason people said not to vote for the Bamz.
      Just sayin.
      I personally would prefer a wonk: But I will settle for smexy celebrity glitz surrounded by wonks, as opposed to the trashy B TV putz surrounded by wanks.

  • Nodrama4mama

    I would like Oprah to keep teasing us about it so Donald Trump can lose his mind, tweet something stupid and Oprah with all her money and resources can show him just how good the Libel Laws are in this country, when she renames, Trump Tower- Oprah Oasis

  • Tony Prost

    I can;t wait for the Trump-Winfrey Debates!

  • The Rick

    I like Oprah but if I’ve learned one thing a billionaire with no political background shouldn’t be president. If she can grab a senate seat first and do a good job I’d vote for her, but greenhorn presidents are a no go from here on out in my book.

    • Heck, even a spot on their city council would be fine.

      • The Rick

        Exactly :)

  • Tony Prost

    She is everything Trump isn’t: a self made millionaire, successful business woman, huge philanthropist, and has only done good for others during her career.

    • Queens Lawyer

      corrections: an actual billionaire and a self made billionaire at that, and has done good for regular people thoughout her career.

      • Toledo Window Box

        As opposed to being famous for bankruptcies, firing people, bragging endlessly, being a general jerk, and calling the President a lying fraud illegal alien.

        • Anomandaris

          Yeah Oprah has only called for the death of an entire generation of white people.

          That’s cool though right?

          She let Jenny McCarthy peddle her anti vac nonsense.

          Gave platforms and legitimized scores of quacks and witch doctors with their pseudo scientific garbage.

          Promotes global depopulation including sterilization measures in the 3rd world.

          Etc etc etc.

          Yeah a real beacon of light.

          Not to mention that instead of using her power and influence to out the pervs and assaulters in Hollywood she kept her mouth shut and actually enabled a pig like Harvey.

          So brave!!!!

          • Toledo Window Box

            What are you referring to in your first sentence?

  • chronozoan

    Unlike DJT Oprah is a successful business person who walked away from the highest rated daytime TV show in history because she didn’t feel like doing that anymore.

    • SDGeoff3

      Would she do that if elected? I’m not in the mood; buh bye?

  • norcalOG

    Why is it every time a celebrity (well liked, well heeled, well intentioned, a glamorous fan fave) speaks out beautifully he/she immediately causes a feverish beating of the presidential drums?
    There should be no Oprah presidential train, and no serious thought of one either. I know it’s nearly impossible, but give me a boring moderate who doesn’t have to kiss his own ass daily, who can achieve some consensus on important issues and who is a serious student of domestic and international affairs.
    I know. Won’t happen. But I can dream.

    • ummm…

      well look at history. doesn’t mitt romney look good now? doesnt howard dean look good? dont both georges look good? it was better, but we had no idea. these days we have the same sort of bad policy and obfuscation, but now its our reality show presidents telling us.

      when i thought we couldnt get any lower……….

      • Anomandaris

        No to Romney. Both George’s were traitorous scumbags. Howard Dean is/was and always will be a loser.

        Billy Boy is a rapist.

        Revisionism is pathetic.

        • ummm…

          what is being revised? also, they look better not they are the best.

          finally, nothing will change until stupid idealogues start doing their research – or if they just all die off.

          the only appropriate way of making decisions for your community, is to account for all peoples right to freedom – and creating a community on solid princples. right now we are just talking highschool politics, and its getting worse

  • @Sucksplenti

    She told us “Obama was the one.” She and her policies would be a poor return to Obama.

    • miss_grundy

      I could go to sleep at night with Obama in control and not be afraid that he was going to start a nuclear war. I also knew that he was going to work as hard as possible considering that the Republicans would thwart him at every turn. But Oprah runs a private company. She has never run for any office. Let her run for mayor of the city where she lives in California. Or to run for city council. She can start at the municipal level, then move to state level and then she can run for the House or the Senate. I doubt that she would stay in politics that long.

      • Toledo Window Box

        I don’t think it’s necessary for her to play it that way.
        She is an extremely bright woman, hard-working, moral, compassionate.
        An outstanding communicator.
        A solid decision-maker, not afraid to take risks.

        Presidents don’t need to know how to run city councils; their work is nothing like that. They inspire; they chart the way; they convince the masses of what is right; they make the very big decisions.

        I think she has what it takes, and with some Conlaw coaching from her friend Barack, and occasional guidance, she could do the job.

        • miss_grundy

          No. Just no. I have had enough of celebrity presidents. Twice in my lifetime is more than enough. She can help out the cause by campaigning and donating to PACs.

        • lunar62

          NO a million times NO. The fact that people are even considering having
          another billionaire celebrity in the White House – have we fallen that
          far as a country? If that happens, the presidency would be forever
          viewed as a figurehead position, a cult of personality. The thought is horrifying.

        • Anomandaris

          I bet $1 000 000 you’ve spent the last year pissing and moaning about having a celebrity with no political experience as president.

          But now it’s all good right?

          How pathetically predictable.

          • Toledo Window Box

            “Celebrity with no political experience” was not even in the top 100 of my reasons that Donald Trump is unfit to be President.

      • Anomandaris

        Oprah is far more qualified than community organizer and absentee senator (votes present nearly every time) Obama ever was.

        For that matter, never has a more unqualified person been president than Obama.

        The very definition of an empty suit.

        • miss_grundy

          Please stop taking that medication. It is really bad for you.

    • Toledo Window Box

      Works for me.

      • ummm…

        fyi, he was the president for 8 years. how did your life improve?

        • Toledo Window Box

          How did my life improve under Obama?

          1) by pushing through a large stimulus bill he staunched the recession
          2) by providing financing for the auto industry, he avoided a depression
          3) by signing Obamacare, he got health insurance to millions, and specifically helped MY FAMILY which has members with so-called “pre-existing conditions”.
          4) by expanding LGBT rights, he made the nation (and the world) a better place for everybody
          5) by appointing two wonderful SCOTUS justices

          I could go on. For days.

  • MamaBrown

    Wasn’t this the plot of a comic dystopian SF novel from the 80’s? Donald Trump is president, until he is defeated in his bid for a second term, by Oprah?

    • ummm…

      thx for that. it would be funny if it wasn’t true. im no longer frustrated angry and dissapointed with my fellow “liberals”. im something beyond that now.

  • Keith Taylor

    Seems pretty plain that one reason so many women are speaking out on how they were pressured and molested, after so many years, is that they look at the current President and think, “That is in the White House? We’ve got to stand up and fight and not stop swinging or every swine will feel justified and encouraged to do as he likes. Even more than before.”

    • ummm…

      wow. so guys that dont assault will assault because trump is president. i suppose the difference between you doing the right thing and doing the wrong thing is if your parents tell you what is right or wrong. you have no compass yourself?

      • HELysia99

        There have been a couple of asshole Republicans who started ‘misbehaving’ after El Douche won, stating that these were new, liberating times for their brand of ‘anti-PC’ behavior. So yes, stupid people will, as our mothers warned us, follow like lemmings if it appeals to them.
        As this election proved, a lot of people are willfully ignorant.

        • ummm…

          can you point to anybody abusing women because trump was elected? is there a study. one thing ive learned as a liberal is that you cant trust liberals these days. we have rejected fact. not alternative fact, actual fact. we dont give context. we see feeling and emotions as arguments to reduce civil liberties.

          get a grip.

        • Anomandaris

          And as the year after shows, a lot of people are hyper emotional nut jobs that can’t accept a democratic vote.

      • Keith Taylor

        Having an ignorant pussy-grabber in the White House (who even boasts about it: “When you’re a celebrity they let you do it … and I just pop a tic-tac and kiss them when I feel like it”) does encourage that kind of crap. And at least one business, after Trump was elected, felt bound to declare as its company policy that his attitudes were a disgrace, and that whatever he might say, “that kind of crap still gets you fired HERE.”

        • ummm…

          keith. stop. slow down. “one business”. “encourage”. you are condemning large swaths of society based on what you see in the news. i know it sounds crazy, but if you start DOING YOUR RESEARCH you will find out the news is uber biased; and still if you dont agree refer to my other point – how can you make assumptions about millions or billions of people because of who we elected for about some dumb story. look at the stats.

          also we had bush as a president. radical muslims felt justified in bombing us because of stuff like that. this means they hold you guilty for bush. our president doesn’t define everyone..

          but id hazard to say, and it is a much larger explanation, that we have trump BECAUSE OF OUR OWN BIAS AND HYPOCRACY. there are people in middle america that dont believe what we believe and still respect and love each other. you dont NEED to make everyone believe what you believe if they respect your right to believe or do it, within the law.

          let them live. how are you liberal if you are calling everyone else a nazi for how they live. you draw the line someplace, let them – as long as we have basic standards. and a basic standard IS NOT exactly what you want if you can’t back it up with solid philosophy, or fact. good solutions come from descriptive reading and not prescriptive readings.

          stop stop stop stop

          im a liberal. read our charter when you get a chance. also, you are an adult and you know life always has dangers, and when we make laws we need to make them narrow and not bias.

          think man think

        • Anomandaris

          And yet you voted for the Rapist In Chief Billy Boy didn’t you? Don’t bother lying. You’re a Democrat through and through and actually voted for a man who didnt SAY crude things but actually RAPED multiple women.

          And to top it off you voted for Hillary. That paragon of woman’s rights who made it her mission to destroy Bills victims in her never ending psychotic lust for power.

          I’m sure your retort will be pathetically predictable and you’ll respond with the same lie all progressives do by saying you didn’t vote for him or HER.

          Funny that. Every lefty I know denies voting for Hillary and yet will then claim she won the popular vote. How can that be?

          Either you all voted for her or there’s more election fraud than we thought.

          • Keith Taylor

            I’m taking a few deep breaths here, and then a few more, in order to respond some other way than rudely.
            I couldn’t have voted for either William or Hillary Clinton because I’m not a U.S. citizen. I’m Australian.
            Bill, to the best of my knowledge has been accused of rape by one woman, Juanita Broaddrick. At best his sexual record is sleazy, opportunistic and marked by a number of infidelities.
            Donald Trump’s record is no better in that respect and may be much worse. His first wife accused him of violence and rape within the marriage; he was unfaithful to wives one AND two.
            Sixteen women — or maybe it’s nineteen now — have accused Trump of molesting them. A Jane Doe accused him — and even brought a lawsuit to that effect — of raping her in tandem with convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein when she was thirteen. She dropped the suit, probably because she was thinking, “Oh my God, he’s going to be President! I haven’t got a chance! And some crazy supporter of his might even kill me!”
            Donald Trump by his own statements, on record, was at least as pally with Epstein as Bill Clinton was, before Epstein’s conviction.
            My personal opinion? I think Trump is probably guilty. I know for a fact, simply from listening to him and checking out his record (sexual and financial) that he’s creepy.
            I probably would have voted for Hillary Clinton, if I were American, by the time it had come down to either Clinton or Trump. Because by then it was a simple choice between someone who was at least capable of doing the job (Clinton), and someone who manifestly and blatantly wasn’t (Trump).
            He still manifestly and blatantly isn’t. More so than ever.

  • stubbornirishlass

    Is she going to give me a new car? Because, you know, I’d have to really consider this if she is.

  • SeeTrainWrecked

    DRUDGE: I’M A BLITHERING IDIOT

  • phoenix00
    • Toledo Window Box

      Oprah vs. Mothrah

      • phoenix00

        IF YOU SMELLLLLLL WHAT MOTHRAH IS COOKIN’!

  • cosmiccowgirl

    Yeah, I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2008, and, after Obama’s presidency– and me trying to fix my toilet with no experience last weekend–I stand behind that. Experience is better. But I would vote for Oprah one million times ahead of any Republican.

    • Magginkat

      BUT – -What if she runs as a republican?

    • ummm…

      and thats why we lost. im ok with seeing “liberals” (in name only) destroyed if it means that from those ashes true liberalism appears. id take 10 years of trump – and all that pain – just to see the pc authoritarians and sjws gone.

  • louwhitaker

    This is playing the Republicans’ game. It shows utter contempt for government to presume that somebody with no experience or skills in this arena could handle the job. No matter how brilliant or admirable the neophyte in question may be.

    • SDGeoff3

      Thank you. And a Great Speech does not make a person a proper candidate for the office. The Presidency should not be an entry level position.

      • ummm…

        wasnt even a great speech.

        • SDGeoff3

          Maybe she needs some more attention.

          • ummm…

            yeah cause she hasn’t had enough fawning over her for years. there are two types of people that like oprah – the people whose worldview she validates and the people that she shares her platform with. everyone else thinks nothing of her or actively dislikes her.

            ive been a liberal, marxist, socialist etc. at one time or another in my life. but ive NEVER NEVER NEVER liked oprah. looks like the left is susceptible to lifestyle brands just like the right.

          • SDGeoff3

            Good for you, and thanks.

          • bobbybluetoyou

            and your reasons for not liking her are exactly what? her success? Her skin color? Her sex? I have read all of your posts here, and your reasoning is for shit, through and through – you just sling mud and try to pass it off a intelligence responses.

          • ummm…

            no i can’t tell you why you should be skeptical. that requires experience, but more importantly education. you may have gone to school but you dont have one. im still learning, but ive done enough research to have rubbished marxism and socialism a bit after i left university. real life is an education in and of itself as if you are paying attention you will find that not ONE school of thought is necessary but all, in order to find solutions and protect freedoms.

            you are dogmatic it appears. i can’t do all your interdisciplinary study, i can only tell you that you are wrong. all this stuff is interconnected – its not just some people are dumb. you need to figure out how this works and im way to tired and frustrated with all of you to start again today. ive tried too much.

            im a classical liberal interracial (jewish/carribean) in my mid 30s, grew up in new york city and living her again after a few year away. im university educated. im agnostic bordering on atheist. i rate as a non authoritarian liberal on many scales. i have owned a business, i have also spent much of my career as an employee. I AM THE POSTER CHILD FOR LIBERALISM. I AM POST MODERNISM DEFINED. i have deconstructed it all. when you put it back together IT DOESN’T END UP LIKE YOU. YOU ARE ON A ROAD TO RUIN!!!!!! GET IT IN YOUR THICK F’ING SKULL.

          • Anomandaris

            And so it begins.

            Leftist lunatic realizes that someone doesn’t like Oprah and jumps feet first into RACIST! SEXIST! MISOGYNIST!!!!

            If it wasn’t so pathetically predictable it would be funny.

            You must realize that you idiots have become a parody right? Right?

        • Anomandaris

          Whaaaaat? It was a great speech. I especially loved the part where she apologized for enabling scum like Harvey instead of using her vast media empire (a certain period of time where she was 100% untouchable) to expose the rampant sexual abuse, rape and pedophilia in Hollywood and the entertainment industry as whole.

          Her apology for 30+ years of silence completely exonerated her IMO. The fact that she never said a word, even though she knew what these scumbags were doing is all washed away now.

          Such stunning bravery! What a remarkable WOMAN! Speaking truth to power!

          *this is extreme sarcasm*

          • ummm…

            sorry i didnt get the sarcasm of the other comment you made. im exhausted from all the typing i did yesterday, lol, but i think we need to burn both parties down – and create a voter eduation test. if oyu dont know basic principles then you dont get to vote. doesn’t mean that the voter has to follow the principles, but they hat least have to know about JS Mill etc etc.

    • ummm…

      whats worse is that she isn’t brilliant or admirable, especially after her speech. she should just go back to selling trinkets to housewives – and stop with the gender lies.

      • bobbybluetoyou

        or maybe go back to running her own Cable TV network, one that she started and financed herself, and is a success, or maybe give yet another 400 million dollars to educational causes, or maybe running her Angel Network, or checking in on her Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa. On her shows, she puts herself out there,for all to see and she is one of the most influential women in teh entire world. She has accomplished in a true rags to riches story, of making good things happen and sharing the wealth with those who need it. And I would vote for a person who has a proven track of doing this.
        So face it, ummmmm you don’t know caca. And you sure wouldn’t know a successful, smart, business savvy, emphatic, generous black woman if you came face to face with one.

        • ummm…

          she built off of a show for housewives. she is a brander not an industrialist. she may be brilliant and personally affable. im inclined to believe id like her and respect her a lot. but when it comes to her business, and how she views the wrold (or maybe only how she views the world for the cameras and the cash) it is NOT congruent with rationality and compassion. i can’t explain it to you because im afraid you need to SEARCH FOR KNOWLEDGE to find it. what you saw her dow was the height of cynicism and blatantly self serving, in the least self deluding if she thought she was at all qualified to discuss this.

          look at the methodology of any “statistics” you use to underpin your BELIEF. read people that criticize your BELIEF. only they after your BELIEFS are challenged and you still ahve them, can you say they are right. but you have to have the brain power and honesty to actually inquire freely. u clearly haven’t. if you have any you still come to the same conclustion than you aren’t deconstructing. you can love and support women rights as i do – oprah is not that. she is a brander AND YOU ARE HER FAVORITE FOOL.

      • Anomandaris

        Or resume calling for the death of an entire generation of white people. That was pretty dope.

        Racist slag.

        • ummm…

          im interracial. i dont have to be to know how stupid her speech was, and how stupid this attack on white people is. but im justing saying that i get to play stealth and i hear some really horrible stuff from my “fellow liberals”.

          its a sad say when middle of the road conservatives are more liberal than liberals.

  • Harbinger08

    I’m not against the idea. First I’d like to see how she does slogging out a couple of successful terms as a governor or senator. Oh, and finish law school somewhere, since being able to understand the law is supposed to be a job requirement.

    • ummm…

      oh yeah. if she did that id think about voting for her. but if she didnt get rid of the pc-authoritarianism and propoganda (based on lies) i wouldnt give her a shot.

      • Harbinger08

        Any examples?

        • ummm…

          yeah sure. id urge you to open yourself up to other readings of social trends and look at the statistics underpinning a lot of the feminsit agenda. then go and find a source of authority you trust that discusses “classical liberal” values (of which this is all underpinned – supposedly) and see if that jives with what is going on with cultural marxists and postmodernists.

          there are a lot of ills in the world for men, woman, children, dogs etc. but we make them worse with poor “solutions’.

          it has taken many intelligent people years to the theories and political movements that led to this problem. for you to think that i can tell you in a sound bite what the issues are means you do not know what interdiscipline study is and its importance, nor do you have any interest.

          in 10 years (hopefully) you will be looking back and thinking how could i be so dumb. in fact look around, trump is our president. LOOK AROUND. he is our president because we as liberals messed up. not because others were wrong……………….WE ARE WRONG………or at least your type of liberal.

          get smart.

          • Harbinger08

            Thank you for such a lucid reply. I feel we are already getting to know each other, or at least I you. For example I can already sense you are a person who enjoys painting with a broad brush, and athletically leaping to such creative assumptions, and I do love The Arts. But I also feel that your passionate intensity is moving things forward faster than I feel is right for us, and by that I mean me, and we should take some time to be apart, so we can better reflect on how we can be apart even more. I know you will understand, and good luck on your journey.

          • ummm…

            you will eventually a) get older and more experienced b) through your own life realize that you have not been intellectually consistent c) realize that pragmatism is better than being right – and there in lies the secret of cooperation d) live in an echo chamber where growing as a human doesn’t matter.

            i dont care what you believe, but i do care if we as a society can’t take the best ideas and make solutions from them. a lot of the current climate is about NOT finding the best oslutions and demonizing those with “power”.

            all these lies are done to prevent you from doing your own research. and we both went to college – that stuff was NOT our own research. it was within a power structure. think about that the next time you advocate LESS free speech on campus. you may get temporary political gain, but eventually it will be turned on you. SEE DONALD TRUMP.

          • Harbinger08

            If I get much older and more experienced I’ll be dead. I remember anti-war marches when Nixon was president. But you seem to have it figured out, you take it from here. And hop to it, we don’t have all day.

          • ummm…

            ok so what do you think us liberals need to do. do you not see the assault on free speech and due process. those are the two foundation ideas of liberalism. so tell me, how have i got it wrong. youve been around for a while and if your beliefs have stood the test of time and scrutiny they must be good…………..but before you answer; if you are an idealogue just say it, dont spew dogma. i need demonstrable fact and solid application of principles.

          • Harbinger08

            Ok, I’ll stop joking around for a minute since you are being genuinely serious and nice about it. We have to do two things. We have to form a coalition of reliable voters that can overwhelm anything that can be formed up by the opposition, and use it while voting at all still actually matters. We are getting dangerously close to where the majority won’t be able to hold power. As bad as voting fairness has been so far it’s about to get a whole lot worse if they aren’t stopped. Right now that opposition is Trumpists and the ultra-right factions of the GOP, but you know the general idea of what we are up against. Second,the coalition needed has to be very very broad, which means we are going to have to work hard to give everyone a place at the table and work hard to find compromise and inclusion. The problem with Democrats and leftists in particular is that when everyone gets a chance to speak things start to get off track, get hijacked by a vocal few, people get really impatient with going in circles and slow progress, and start to bicker and splinter over issues that are not worth losing everything over. This has been the biggest problem of all, and the reason we aren’t decades of progress past where we find ourselves. That’s the simple version, and I probably won’t go into a lot of detail, it’s just my opinion and I make comments for my own entertainment and don’t think it’s going to save the world. Maybe if there are tens of millions like me it will.

          • ummm…

            harb, i hear ya. you have a pragmatic practical approach and i wont pick at it however much id like. ill say this; you are talking about combating voter apathy and getting people moving – problem is identity politics and authoritarians is the tool people use to do that.

            i posit that the only way to get where we want to go is to educate and inform ourselves. that doesn’t men support trump or his opponent. that means go back to school and learn true liberal, social, progressive, conservative, libretarian, etc. principles. then you look at history and give DESCRIPTIVE and not PRESCRIPTIVE readings of history. Then we make PRINCIPLED legislation. that is the only way. we cannot create a utopia, we cannot get rid of harm or danger in life. its just that notion, and the ill education of those pushing it (danger and harm being abolished) that are causing the problem.

            liberals need to get back to their core principles and start from there. imagining solutions that only solve the “voter” apathy problem creates stupid voters that can’t GO INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND ACTUALLY SOLVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO GOD DAMN PRINCPLES WITH THE BENEFIT OF HISTORY AND SCHOLARLY STUDY.

            democrats are dead. they should be. republicans are dead too. the only people left with any princples are middle of the road conservatives and classical liberals. we need to have a freaking ethic. nobody is educated enough to even begin to pose solutions . voters shouldn’t get to vote unless they can pass basic tests – the world is too complicated for stupid people now.

          • Harbinger08

            You make good points. I, too, am most concerned about the quality of the electorate itself. Thanks for taking the time to respond reasonably, but don’t expect too much from me going forward, I can be serious in other venues but come to Wonkette for fun and humor, so normally when you run across my comments in the future you should still expect a goofball. Let’s hope for the best in the end because it’s going to be one hell of a ride before we get there.

          • ummm…

            thx for turning the conversation around and getting serious. i hear ya. but i think its a education problem not an activism problem.

        • ummm…

          check this read out. its interesting. its not a sheet of stats, although those are available, but maybe it will help you understand why some men saw oprahs speech and started frothing at the mouth without any way of articulating their furstration.

          again this is not a jumping off point to INTERROGATE YOUR “BELIEFS” on the wider subject, but its something that will make you think a little.

          keep in mind the website this is on. its a website for men that are frustrated and want change, or have moved on to hate. disregard their words.

          id also appreciate it if you can view everybody on there as human and wonder about their motivations.

          https://www.avoiceformen.com/gynocentrism/relational-aggression-is-it-a-trap-for-men/

          havent checked the study methodology or this guys creds, but it is important not to no platform people. listen to them. do your reserach. this only partly explains male reactions to oprah

  • City of H8

    Remember she’s responsible for the dubious fame of “‘Dr.’ Phil” McGraw, Dr. (Mehmet) Oz, post-Playboy Jenny McCarthy and that lady that wrote the “wish for and it comes true!” book, The Secret. Believes BS-y pseudoscience, so she lacks the critical thinking skills needed for this serious job. And of course, ZERO political experience.

    • ummm…

      its baffling that she is being played with as a candidate. on sunday morning i was frustrated and angry at the stupidity of my fellow liberals, the hypocricy, the lies, the maliciousness, the bias. Monday morning i was surprised it could get worse. didnt think it could. but it has. they dont even put on airs anymore. its just unadultered psychopathy.

    • rick leonard

      Racist ,woman hating ,homophobic, xenophobic Muslim goat love hater !

  • ummm…

    the speech was garbage people. she is not supported by facts. men are not all weinstein. feminism and pc culture has given us trump. instead of doing some self searching we are doubling down and making it worse. unbelievable. in the end the truth will come out, and it can be done easily or hard.

    my advice. work hard at what you want. go out and get it, men want you to. stop pretending to be victims, because if you dont you will always be victims – even when you ARE NOT.

  • rick leonard

    speech was Churchhillian ! That Salty Mama needs to run ! She was so fast at helping the woman raped in Hollywood no one could even see her do it as she did it!
    And Oh Man ! , Her Press conferences would be a hoot, At the end she could announce what the Press Corps is getting with a curtain drop or a box opening .Or ask the reporters to look under their seats ! ( if Obama is reading this ,heads up dude the “p” in Corpse is silent)
    Can not wait for Oprah !

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