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Here, look at this shithead getting interviewed by Jake Tapper about the Republicans’ tax “cut” (for the super rich only)! It is so fun! He accidentally told the truth in service of SO MANY LIES. Man, that must get confusing.

Jake Tapper: (PARAPHRASE) Can you answer a question about how much of the benefits of the tax cut will go to people making under say $200,000 a year?

Steven Mnuchin: (WHAT HE MEANT WAS) Is there really even such a thing as “numbers” though, Jake?

Jake Tapper: (TELLING THE TRUTH) Here are some things the tax cut does for very rich people, and here is Donald Trump lying about how it won’t cut taxes on rich people. Thoughts, Steve? Oh, let me quote Jake Tapper here, “I don’t see at all how that’s true.”

Steve Mnuchin: (ACTUAL QUOTE BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST) “Well Jake, let me explain to you how that is true. Because we are getting rid of lots and lots of deductions? The biggest is we’re capping state and local deductions at $10,000? So one of the things we’re very sensitive to is the high tax states make up a big part of the economy. So, even lowering the 39-six rate to 37, in the high tax states, actually rich people taxes will be going up.”

There you go, everybody. Steve Mnuchin’s defense of tax cuts for the rich is that they’ll be raising them on rich Democrats.

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  • MynameisBlarney
  • Oblios_Cap

    Well, if Munchkin says it, it’s got to be true a lie.

    • jesterpunk

      Rand freaking Paul even said the GOP tax cuts for the super rich will punish blue states to subsidize red states.

      • chazmanr

        We’ve been subsidizing them for 150+ years already.

  • MynameisBlarney

    OT, but turmp finally got his letter from Mueller.

    https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029998448

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      IDK if “turmp” is an intentional typo or not, but I love it!

      • MynameisBlarney

        Thanks, and yes it’s intentional.
        I refuse to spell it right.
        Petty, I know, but it gives me a small measure of joy.

        • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

          This is why I just change it to the anagram, Lord Dampnut.

  • Anna Rompage

    A single person making around $50k/yr, with no children is going to be seeing about a 2%-3% reduction in their tax rates, which is quite a pittance for the amount of debt this country is taking on.

    Unfortunately that person will also see substantially fewer benefits when they grow older, seeing the the GOP has plans on cutting medicare, medicaid, and social security sometime in the near future to help balance the already ridiculous amount of debt their bill is going to cause…

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      Don’t forget, that reduction sunsets in ten years. Do they really think that will trick people? I guess it will trick a few.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Only if they are wage (i.e. W2) employees. Those of us whose income is all in 1099s, and don’t make enough to create pass throughs, are losing most of our business deducations. So our (my) taxes will go up.

      • rebecca

        incorporate, honey. you have to. I finally did.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          Yeah, with this shit coming on I’m thinking about finally talking t a lawyer.

    • canes_pugnaces

      Fuck ’em. They never stay at Trump resorts and they were going to die anyway.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Mnuchin, you are an ugly greedhead, and your vapid, superficial wife married you for your money. Never forget that.

    https://youtu.be/_t15d-SC4f8

    • Ellie

      I’m sure of that, but I don’t understand it, because for me, there wouldn’t have been enough money in the world…no.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        You are insufficiently vapid and superficial is all. Need to up your game a little.

        • Ellie

          I’ll see if I can borrow Mr. Obama’s Handy Acme Time Machine, and go back and work on it. LOL

          • chazmanr

            It only works for Obama and it only works to go back in time to place ads in the weekly circular; not to kill Hitler or prevent Trump from being elected.

          • Ellie

            Well, that’s disappointing.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Please please please please please let there be a similar video featuring Donald Trump Jr. and the vocal stylings of a Children’s Treasury of Farts.

    • Hardly Ideal
  • elviouslyqueer
  • Zonath

    And those high-tax states tend to be the ones that contribute more to the federal coffers than they cost, while the low-tax states are mostly on the other side, so the increases on rich people in high-tax states will go to subsidize all those low-tax states, so everybody wins, right?

    • georgiaburning

      Until that Constitutional Convention the RWNJ’s have their hearts set on.

  • jesterpunk

    Dammit John Oliver, do something about your stupid evil twin.

  • armed_bears

    Mnuchin was beat up a lot in elementary school, I assume, but he who laughs last…

  • OrG

    Yeah, some not-so-rich Democrats too. And also too not-so-rich dumbass rethugs .

  • Hobbes’ Evil Twin

    O/T: Have we found the one individual in the Drump universe who has a sense of shame?
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/matthew-petersen-withdraws-judge-nominee

    • georgiaburning

      It was bound to happen, evil has quality problems too.

    • LesBontemps

      Becoming a viral meme of incompetence and gross lack of qualification was fatal to his appointment prospects; there really was no other option left aside from nomination seppuku.

  • canes_pugnaces
    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      That’s his resting derp face.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      What is up with that stupid expression on Junior’s face? Is he reacting to a particularly foul Chunky Soup fart from Ted?

      • elviouslyqueer

        “Here I stand, all broken-hearted. While Ted Cruz smiled, I think I sharted.”

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
  • Crystalclear12

    Who watches It’s a Wonderful Life and wants to become Potter?
    Mnuchin.

  • Anna Rompage

    And in other news; DeadBart is hosting a Christmas bizarre on their website, where you can buy a number of conservatively branded items…

    Personally I’m kind of shocked they aren’t selling suspenders for all of their readers who cant quite figure out how to use a belt…

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “So, even lowering the 39-six rate to 37, in the high tax states, actually rich people taxes will be going up.”

    ???
    One is moved to ask, HOW?

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      They all hire the stupid CPA’s?

      • Oblios_Cap

        GOP Math.

      • Khavrinen

        But I thought Mnuchin already has a job….

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Reduction of the state and local taxes deduction, mortgage interest deduction, and general fuckery I think

    • redblack

      why you think they call it voodoo economics, pal?

    • rebecca

      because they’re not letting them deduct their state and local taxes. did I forget to add that part?

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        no, I’m just a idiot when it comes to munniez.

    • Somewhat Damaged Ron

      Same math used to explain that the chocolate ration was increased from 25 to 20 grams.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • La forza del resistino

      the response will be: We campaigned on this and the voters have spoken. chauffer, please step on it and get us outta here.

  • Timothy Watson

    I’m really starting to think that California and New York should propose seceding if they’re going to be forced to subsidized failing moocher states like most of the South.

    • redblack

      what? you want we should gerrymander ourselves?

      they would luuurve to have the blue states out of the EC.

      while i appreciate the sentiment, let’s stick together here.

    • redarmyzombie

      Or, we just stop giving them their welfare money.

      • redblack

        there are a lot of good people in occupied territory…

        • redarmyzombie

          I propose an evacuation., where all good people put out their Wonkette branded merch and wait for the rescue helicopter.

          • redblack

            as long as they can bring all of their fryers, smokers, and music gear, i’m good with that.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      I’d love Gov. Brown to tell DJT, et al, that if they like the extra $0.23 on every one of our tax dollars, they’d best STFU. We’re sick of carrying them shithead moochers that think they’re Ayn Rand or some shit…

  • WotsAllThisThen

    High tax states make up a big part of the economy, which they want to grow. By lowering taxes.

    • Arolpin

      And when they lower them to the rate of the low tax states, and then the economy crashes, the only answer will be more tax cuts.

      • LesBontemps

        Pfft. The answer is always more tax cuts. No need to wait for “events.”

    • TJ Barke

      “STOP POINTING OUT OUR BLATANT CONTRADICTIONS!”

  • The Rick

    Blue states will make it work because they accept reality. Red states on the other hand will bury their heads in the sand and ask for hand outs when things go south.

    • OrG

      Same as it ever was.

      • georgiaburning

        Thanks for the Talking Heads reference

    • Khavrinen

      But most of the red states already started out in the south…

  • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

    “Seriously, what the hell’s wrong with you people?”
    “We’re bad guys, it’s what we do!”

    This administration in a nutshell.

  • La forza del resistino
    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      My suggested caption: “Mnuchin and Wife shop for new brand of toilet paper.”

    • Anna Rompage

      Who knew Darth Vader has a kind of hot sister…

      • MynameisBlarney

        All the plastic “beauty” money can buy.

        • Blackest Noobs

          yeah plastic aint beauty, it’s fake.
          just like her.

          • redblack

            technically, it’s petroleum.

            something something “profit!”

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            and silicone

        • ariel_gee_398

          All the brains, too.

    • Crank Tango

      Joke money with 1’s on it. Surely they don’t make them smaller than 100’s?

      • La forza del resistino

        The1s are printed to water proof paper to resist trickle down damage.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      “Wait a minute – you want us BOTH to hold the sheet of money? Okay – just let me glove up first. And hey – anyone have a bottle of Purelle handy?”

      • Crank Tango

        Pretty sure the gloves are for touching him. She has no problem with filthy money.

        • Bub, the cynical zombie

          Yup, that’s what I figured.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      “This will all be yours if you can manage to ignore the fact that I’m an ugly, smarmy little ratfucker that makes your skin crawl and have sex with me”

    • Hardly Ideal

      I forget who, but someone told Mnuchin that that photoshoot made him look like a Bond villain, and he took it as a compliment.

      This guy couldn’t be less down-to-earth if he were on the far side of the moon.

  • chazmanr

    All I want for Chistmas is a guillotine.

    • LesBontemps

      And a mob. And some tumbrels. And torches and pitchforks. And this lamp …

    • Blackest Noobs

      and maybe one or several of these, you know, for just in case….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OiCW0EOsKE

    • Crank Tango

      Le Rasoir National™!

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      I will find a shady spot, get one of those portable chairs, and knit myself a nice pink hat. Wonkette sans culottes!

    • Raan

      I’d settle for a super soaker, a gallon of DMSO, and a fistful of powdered mescaline.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        A fistful of powdered mescaline

        worst spaghetti western ever!

        • Raan

          Everyone was tripping balls.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Am I high or is the lip synch really off? And why is everyone squinting?

          • Lascauxcaveman

            Nearsighted.

        • LesBontemps

          But makes some wild spaghetti.

      • Crank Tango

        You can have mine, but I need it all replaced before my NYE party.

      • Raan

        DMSO, in case you don’t know, stands for dimethyl sulfoxide. One of its uses is to allow chemicals to be absorbed through the skin.

        • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

          You work in Pharma, I see…

          • redblack

            or maybe a dead kennedys fan, hmmmm?

          • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

            Por que no dos?

          • Raan

            Neither, actually. Just a fan of a specific Shadowrun story.

            https://youtu.be/KnPM7I49fj8

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        [Disregard…I thought DMSO was something else…]

        • Raan

          It should be alright. It only reacts with PVC, polystyrene, and polycarbonate plastics.

      • tehbaddr

        Hmmm DMSO? It appears you have some of the “knowledge”!

      • arensb

        Two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers… and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls.

        Now, what’s this about an opioid crisis?

    • tehbaddr

      All I want for Christmas is a parade, a parade of these rat fuckers to the Guillotine!

    • The latest model

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4145bb384251b961f8ea0df00ebf5b4eb958d88cfafd2e81896f7f50f214be6.jpg

      made by a company called Die Bolt or something like that

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      that’s because it’s cold in space

    • wait! what?

      Butt plug, because the world’s most powerful man is a giant asshole.

    • Oblios_Cap

      It’s from the bug planet! Buenos Aries, be afraid.

      • MynameisBlarney

        The only good bug, is a dead bug!

  • Dept. of Space Tacos
    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      also too – apparently ALL OF YOU didn’t listen to the 3 million MORE people that spoke loud and clear and voted against yoru dumbass.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      They did. Most didn’t vote for you, you orange buffoon.

    • miss_grundy

      The last thing the American people need is for you to speak for them.

      • Somewhat Damaged Ron

        Need OR want.

    • Oblios_Cap

      I did. I voted for Hillary.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Is it possible to meet 100 world leaders in only 13 countries? Does each country have 7.69 leaders each, or something? Did he chain all of the trips together in one giant loop? or did he keep returning to Mar a Lago, a lá spoke and hub fashion? (which would have increased the mileage significantly).

      Also, remember that AF1 costs ~$200K/hr to run, to feed his little boondoggles…

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i’m guessing he’s referring to the two g12 or whatever conferences he went to.

        • PubOption

          Ivanka stood in for part of that.

        • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

          Oh, those don’t count. If I go to a Jimmy Buffett concert, I don’t say that I actually met the guy…we were just in the same room together…

      • shivaskeeper

        Remember the NATO meeting where he shouldered the head of Montenegro out of the way to get up front for the picture? All those leaders count towards the total.

        • redblack

          and putin counts triple. you know, because ukraine and crimea.

    • La forza del resistino

      is he done talking global security and can I come out from under my desk now?

    • redblack

      hey, jackass! over here!

      I AM AN AMERICAN PEOPLE!

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      further irony – obama’s family didn’t have all the money he has, he fucking EARNED it.

      • redblack

        high five.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Shouldn’t your smarmy ass still be in jail, D’ouchebag?

    • ariel_gee_398

      Too bad being a delusional jackass isn’t a parole violation.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      My god, the MAGA morons in that thread are just breathtakingly dumb

    • miss_grundy

      Can’t we send D’Souza back to prison?

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Dude climbed up a ladder and is acting like he free solo’ed Half Dome…

    • Oblios_Cap

      Dinesh D’Asshole, again.

    • cmd resistor

      Which word – “Learning?”
      So many words used by that idiot that could qualify.
      Dinesh is one of my least favorite people. Well, worse than that. He’s not even at the bottom of my favorite list, but is on a separate shit list.

    • La forza del resistino

      Word is if he invested his inheritance in S&P500 index funds, he’d be 30% better off.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        what kind of thin-skinned desperate for approval moron gets handed a life of leisure and luxury and doesn’t just go enjoy it?

        • La forza del resistino

          beats me. I would emulate the Buffet plan. Jimmy, not Warren

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            i would have emulated the laziest good-for-nothing son of a wealthy saudi prince in history…just go full billy madison.

        • tehbaddr

          A thin-skinned idiot with Mommy and Daddy issues that came from what was essentially a rich, but broken home!

      • Arolpin

        If you believe his self-stated net worth. The Trump Organization appears to be about 10% as big and rich as DumbDonny has stated, so he’s probably only worth a couple hundred million, so he’s LOST 90% of what he should be worth.

        Reminds me of a joke: How does Donald Trump earn a small fortune? He started with a large fortune.

    • Somewhat Damaged Ron

      Oh, Dinesh, you poor deluded fool. It doesn’t matter how hard you suck up, Spike is NEVER going to treat you as an equal. https://i0.wp.com/www.cartoonbucket.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Spike-And-Chester.jpg

      • therblig

        rwnj co-worker has the same problem. he fails to realize that for all his conservative, anti-muslim, gunhumping advocacy, the fact that he’s latino and jewish AND a gun owner only means that the white supremacist shitheels he’s trying to fit in with, would paint an even bigger target on his back when the culture war becomes weaponized.

        you can’t fix stupid like that.

    • Treg Brown

      Why would I listen to a foreign born asshole about politics in the US?

      Yes, I’m an asshole for bring up his country of origin, and I regret nothing.

  • WIDTAP
    • La forza del resistino

      that’s ok. I have the questions for that Papa John’s pizza job inrterview and will coach him.

  • Fartknocker

    I’ll start sending the DNC money when they start putting out ads over this upcoming holiday rebroadcasting snippiets of Mr. Magoochin lying followed by statements from much smarter people informing the electorate that this tax bill was written with a 64 Crayola crayons.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      So are the Dems doing anything except taking a pissy tone? I mean, I live in a Blue State (CA) so I figure they don’t advertise to us because we’re a lock…not sure what’s going on in other states…

  • Blackest Noobs

    so i know the Repub gonna spend the rest of their political capital on this tax bill but they still need to figure out about the Fed’s budget…deadline is Friday, their deadline ( Senate) vote for the tax bill is Thurs.

    govt workers get extended time off at X_Mas cuz govt shutdown.

    • shivaskeeper

      They do not get extra time off. They come to work, unpaid, if they are deemed key or essential personnel. It will be up to Congree to determine if they get back pay for the time the government is shut down.

      The rest are just sent home with no pay.

      • Blackest Noobs

        Repubs think they’re all non essential.

        • shivaskeeper

          Unfortunately, whatever office you might work for doesn’t see it that way.

      • OrG

        IIRC Congress critters carved out an exemption so they get paid, no?

        • shivaskeeper

          No. Every fucking time this happens the back pay had to be authorized or it is not paid. That includes military pay and every single active service member is considered essential.

          • OrG

            I meant the Congress critters themselves.

          • shivaskeeper

            Their pay does not stop. It never stops for a shutdown.

      • theblackdog

        This. The ones sent home basically come in, change their voicemail and add an out of office E-mail message, lock up their desk if they need to do so, and get some papers that pretty much tell them “Stay home until we tell you to come back, you might or might not get paid.”

        • shivaskeeper

          The ones who are not sent home are also told they might or might not get paid even though they are required to come in and work.

          • theblackdog

            That’s true. However, I’m one of those who gets sent home because I’m “non-essential” so I don’t have the experience of being required to work for free. My parents on the other hand did have to work during the 95 shutdown because they worked for an IHS hospital.

          • shivaskeeper

            Ex Active Duty military. We are all considered essential as far as the duty day goes. We cannot get sent home unless we are on leave due to the regulations. Mrs Keeper, in addition to still being in the Reserves, is a GS-11 who supports day to day military operations. She is also considered essential in her civilian job, but there will be no weekend drill or military school during a shutdown.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      Nobel Prize-winning! He’s one of those fancy people! He doesn’t know what the rest of “real ‘murkans” know…

  • Somewhat Damaged Ron

    Hey, Steverino, you said the quiet part loud again!

  • miss_grundy

    Doesn’t this asshole know that there are also rich Democrats in this country? Do they think they are the only ones who have money? This joker needs a slice of that “special” chocolate pie.

    • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

      No. Apparently, we’re all poor, minority, LGBTQ+ elitists…. You can only get money if you screw someone else over…It’s Econ 101…

    • shivaskeeper

      Other than Soros? No. Just like they have all the guns.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • The Rick

      I enjoyed that far more than I had any right to.

    • Bitter Scribe

      I wonder how many takes that guy had to shoot?

  • ArgieBargie

    The guiding principle of Trumpism is “TAKE THAT LIBTARDS!”

    • TJ Barke

      Government of the spite, by the spite and for the spite.

    • Spotts1701, Not Poisonous

      “When you can’t win in a fight, sometimes you have to settle for making sure that if you lose, everyone loses.”

  • Blackest Noobs

    O/T:

    DIAL 719-266-2837.

    i made selection 4. make your own.

    • redblack

      i lived through that shit when it first hit the airwaves. i’ve heard it all, and, god damn it, it still makes me hostile.

      • Blackest Noobs

        like i said to TJ, may or may not put you in a better mood.
        everyone is titled their own opinion, yours is just wrong.

        • redblack

          lol. i gotta ask – what the fuck is up with america’s newfound love for mediocre 70’s and 80’s snooze rock? i mean, come on. lionel ritchie FFS?!

          • Blackest Noobs

            there was always love for it. and better than fucking KISS….god i fucking hate that fucking band. i’ll give it to you for hating on my Hall&Oates and Lionel ( well get fucked, ha ha) cuz everyone got an opinion.

            BUT.

            i fucking HATE KISS.

            they say they’re rock and roll and to me, they’re commercial crap. they’re a fucking product.

            they damn well aint no Daryl Hall or John Oates. and sure shit on their music all you want…but a white boy who is accepted by the Apollo singing Temptations songs with REAL members of the Temptations. that’s like on the same level as fucking Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers being Bob Dylan’s back up band…and then do an album with him, and a Beatle, and Roy FUCKIN Orbison to name a few….my point is sure…you may hate this music by Lionel “FUCKING BRICK MUTHERFUCKIN HOUSE” Ritchie or Hall&Oates…but you cannot deny the impact or influence or the fact it had more effect on society than you or me. astronomically so.

            and i guess KISS made an impact too…for douche bags.

            ( also soooo don’t take me seriously…i mean all that shit (the words i wrote, stand by them) but don’t hate you any cuz you don’t listen to good music)

          • redblack

            oh, i don’t hate on the listener. not a member of the kiss army, either.

            i grew up in indianapolis. we had one pop/rock station. so here’s sample of the music i don’t like, but know like the back of my hand because i had no choice, and big radio damn well knew it:

            – 38 special
            – bob seger
            – reo speedwagon
            – hall and oates
            – lionel ritchie
            – lynyrd skynyrd
            – rush
            – kiss
            – molly hatchet
            – ozzy osbourne’s second band

            starting to get the picture? i had my lifetime saturation by the ago of 16.

            stuff i liked that stuck? tom petty, mellencamp, led zeppelin, stones, heart…

            then i discovered punk rock. and i’m pretty sure we’ll part ways at that point. but i could be wrong. i frequently am.

          • Blackest Noobs

            i went to math rock…kinda like punk rock’s nephew.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    i’m REALLY not stirring the pot by posting, I htink these are important to see and remember for their breathtaking dishonestly (on multiple levels)

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/942857031693799425

    • TJ Barke

      Just makes me wanna break things, no thanks.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        fair point…and point taken.

      • Blackest Noobs

        if i may, dial 719-266-2837.
        it may or may not put you in a better mood.

        • TJ Barke

          Lol

          • Blackest Noobs

            pass it on, TJ.

    • Kryptonian Canis

      Well it certainly does feel like I’m about to get cut (to ribbons).

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      This is how the world reacts to “watching” you, Uncle Dotard:

      https://youtu.be/BNpKRS29G9o

    • Juan de Fuca
  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter
    • Oblios_Cap

      AOT;K

      • redblack

        win.

    • The Rick

      I’d stay away but if your gonna go for it I say .0001 coins

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      when you unwrap them is there chocolate inside?

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        yaaaaaassss! chocolate inside!…and their real value is about the same

      • Arolpin

        What, you think I’m like a common A JEW?

        • Oblios_Cap

          It is Chanukah.

    • tomamitai

      Of the electrical kind, as many as you can, assuming you have a time machine and can buy them in 2009. As for the commemorative coins in the link, it may be fun to buy a few to give away as gag gifts, but as an investment I’d rather have Canadian coins, because there’s a chance I might be able to spend them someday.

      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

        You say that as if my taking wooden nickels and magic beans was a bad thing.

  • Bobathonic

    Vote him right up his fundament.

  • Juan de Fuca

    Say, you know who else benefits the most from this new tax bill?

    The Trump Organization, the president’s holding company, is what’s known as a “pass-through” entity. Pass-throughs are businesses like law firms, hedge funds, or personally held businesses that aren’t corporations. They are labeled pass-throughs because the income derived from the business is passed through to the individual tax returns of the business’ owner or owners, where it is taxed at normal income tax rates.

    This means that pass-throughs are taxed at the same rates as the owners—which currently top out at 39.6 percent. More than two-thirds of income at pass-through companies ends up in the wallets of the top 1 percent of earners.
    The final tax bill, however, slashes this liability, allowing most pass-through businesses—like the Trump Organization—to deduct 20 percent of their income tax-free, effectively cutting the president’s tax rate in half.

    Of course, without the president’s tax returns, it’s impossible to know for sure.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-ways-that-the-republican-tax-bill-is-a-giveaway-to-the-super-rich

  • Chyron HR

    I’m not much of a history student, but it’s my understanding that 100 years ago plutocrats were at risk of being shot or blown up whenever they went out in public? Is that wrong?

    • Crank Tango

      If it’s wrong, I don’t want to be right.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • William
    • Victoria Ricola

      I thought men’s bathrooms were all gross and awful like they say on the internet and in the jokes? This looks pretty amazing to me.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        that’s cause it’s clean…and empty.

      • MynameisBlarney

        This was taken immediately before being open for public use.

      • William

        We are actually a very fastidious gender. It’s usually the fault of women who sneak in and use our pristine rest rooms. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4fc570f02e9a9fa14b5be91e63e040321e9032469ede98576766d42d76ec02d.jpg

      • Lance Thrustwell

        That ain’t no typical men’s room.

        • William

          The fanciest restroom I ever used had a valet in a tux and ice in the urinals.

          • Lance Thrustwell

            Better than the opposite!

          • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

            You’ve been to the Olive Garden?

          • William

            Some theater in Branson Missouri. Branson is of course best described by Bart Simpson as “Las Vegas if Ned Flanders ran it”.

          • William

            “You’ve been to the Olive Garden?” I can microwave my own Stouffers pasta thank you.

          • Bammelam

            … and they put small perfumed (smelly) blue ‘cubes’ in the drinks.
            Someone fucked up royally

          • William

            I know. And those huge breath mints tasted awful.

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      Harry Potter and the urinal cake.

    • DerrickWildcat

      I am playing Skyrim right now and I came upon a Giant and a Dragon fighting each other! I don’t know what to do.

  • Kryptonian Canis

    Oh yeah, making the Foreclosure King of California the public face of your tax bill was definitely a good idea for getting the people on-board.
    https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/942812137432453121

    • TJ Barke

      Is this guy pro or anti tax scam?

      • Oblios_Cap

        anti

      • Kryptonian Canis

        Former Acting Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services under Obama. I started following him as he was defending the ACA over the summer.

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      yeah, here’s the problem with that 2018 thing…it’s not a lock…and even if it were, the damage will be done, never to be UN-done, and the economy will crash sometime between august and october, just like in 2008…and the banks are all gonna be cryin for $help$, and the whole shit cycle of the last 10yrs starts over again

      • Kryptonian Canis

        Agreed. Lately I’ve started to think there’s an economic crash on the way that will make 2008 look like a walk in the park, and everything the Republicans are doing only weakens our ability to respond to a crisis.

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          you can count on it…it’s part of the bubble/crash/acquistion cycle…and i’m pretty sure at this point that it’s no accident

      • Bubbles tend to run much longer than any sane, rational person thinks…

        (Twittler has unfinished bid’ness to do to destroy the rest of America).

        Hmm, I wonder which completely unregulated derivative financial product based solely on computer software mathematical equations will cause the next crash.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1dc325dece2f9bf25ac4fc4b5b45ffa3508e01888152a8425361906a391fde1f.jpg

    • paxpax

      Everything is so fucked up we can’t talk about things like single-payer anymore. It’s all if you’re poor or poor-ish you’re gonna die.

  • Eileen Besse

    I was a Mass state worker, and we got caught up in “government shutdowns,” too. FUCK THEM ALL.

  • Indiepalin

    Can you imagine showing your tits to THIS guy?

    • redarmyzombie
    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      damn you, now I’m wondering whit his horny face and O face look like.

      (shakes fist)

    • Daniel

      I have really, really low self-esteem, so yes.

    • theblackdog

      Only if he’s handed me the money first.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Eh, showing my tits for a free plane ride is just another Tuesday for me.”
      — Louise Linton

    • SayItWithWookies

      Using Mnuchin’s math, “showing your tits to” means mooning — so, sure.

  • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

    slightly OT, but i just saw arthur laffer on ali velshi, defending this economy-killing tax plan disaster….khaa-ryst, that asshole and his laffer curve theory were discredited 20 yrs ago, why is he even still talking?…velshi was trying to hack away at him, but the guy’s relentless with his bullshit

    yaknow, the fairness doctrine wasnt really killed off, it was just re-arranged to give more weight to bullshit v facts..stop having these liars on the shows!…jaayzuus

  • Victoria Ricola

    I think I hate Steven Mnuchin the most.

    • TJ Barke

      Oh, there’s hate to go around…

      • BadKitty904

        PLENTY.

      • shivaskeeper

        That there is.

    • Crank Tango

      All that money and he couldn’t get his name fixed? WTF.

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        or face.

    • azeyote

      don’t be stingy – hate all of them

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Just like to point out, he is not associated with Munchkins in anyway. So hate, but hate with accurate spelling.”
      — Official Message from The Lollipop Guild.

      • Daniel

        He doesn’t care for organised workers’ movements. He resents the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop Guild and in the name of the Lollipop Guild he was cast out of Mnuchinland.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Betcha can’t hate just one!

    • Know why he talks that way? He spent a lifetime pronouncing ‘Mnuchin’

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      I can hate all of them equally. It’s become a useful skill.

  • Khavrinen

    Is this the Open Thread already, or are people just OT-ing because they can’t wait?

    Either way — How do you know when you’ve become a super hero?
    When you have your own action figure:

    https://www.amazon.com/Elizabeth-Warren-Real-Life-Action/dp/B077X8CJGK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1513619618&sr=8-1&keywords=elizabeth+warren+action+figure

  • BadKitty904

    So, what do the rich Democrats intend to do about it?

    • OrG

      Doesn’t George Soros have super powers or something?

      • Oblios_Cap

        If only Alinsky was here to help us!

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Where have you gone Saul Alinsky?

          Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you

      • BadKitty904

        If he does, I wish to dammit he’d use ’em to stop these traitors.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Probably moving to Kansas.

      • BadKitty904

        Is there anything left of it?

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      Sign strongly worded letter to IRS?

      • BadKitty904

        We’ve certainly seen how effective that ploy has been.

    • redarmyzombie

      Assassinate Richard Spencer again?

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      spend the next 10yrs cleaning up the rubble?

      • BadKitty904

        If they don’t act now, there won’t even be rubble left.

    • Frenchie Renard

      ^^THIS^^ Ok, so if the problem is rich RWNJs such as the Kochs/Mercers/etc., what are the rich libs like Gates and Soros fucking doing with all their filthy lucre to stop them? Related: I want a Battle of the Oligarchs to happen.

      • BadKitty904

        Here’s hoping this may spark one.

  • Zippy W Pinhead
    • Oblios_Cap

      Track yelling and calling myself and other officers peasants

      I wonder where he got that sort of idea from?

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        to be totally accurate: Bristol.

        • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

          You spelled bristle wrong.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Holy shit- this article is amazing. It’s like a Cops episode. Everybody is drunk and high as a kite and they’re fighting and pointing guns at each other.

        Also too, if they were a blah family, half of them would have been shot by the police

        • John Thorstensen

          A former student of mine once summarized “Cops” in three words — “Drunken shirtless guys.”

          • MynameisBlarney

            Ronnie Dobbs.

        • tomamitai

          They allow blahs in Alaska?

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            They’re easy to hunt in the winter with all that snow on the ground and they can’t run nearly as fast as wolves

        • little miss high and mighty

          Is there film at 11?

        • IdRatherBeDancing

          OMG — I used to watch Cops when I was in law school and poor as dust — starving grad student living off loans and all — and at least I could feel better about myself as I watched Cops in gleeful horror

        • TakingAmes

          According to my husband, my dad actually flips the TV to Cops as soon as my mom leaves the house. Purely for its redneck entertainment value, apparently. He has been heard to yell, “Arrest her ’cause she’s ugly!” Simply because he thinks it’s hilarious.

        • Lord Jim
    • MynameisBlarney

      That is some seriously fucked up shit.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      JFC that family is getting beyond mockability. That’s just sad.

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        mockabillies!…i like it

    • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

      Wasilla police came to the Palin home Saturday after Sarah Palin called just after 8:30 p.m. to say her son was “freaking out and was on some type of medication,”

      I didn’t know crystal meth and crack cocaine were considered medications.

      Just sayin’

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        The poster family for Opioid abuse

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        It’s Alaska, Jake.

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        yeah, that wasnt booze and opiates…that was a meth-fueled escapade…and doesnt “…met son at door with gun” pretty tell it all?

    • Victoria Ricola

      Good lord. Please raise my taxes and use it to get these people some type of mental heath care help.

    • OrG

      No sympathetic characters in this soap opera.

      • GHERKINS du RESISTANCE!

        I feel sorry for workers in the Thoughts And Prayers factory, who were already churning out defective products as fast as they can.

      • HogeyeGrex

        Still a better love story than Twilight.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          Mein Kampf is a better love story than twilight.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      why gun ownership means “home protection” is bullshit in 3 sentences:

      “”Track told him he was (going to) come anyway to beat his ass,” LaPointe wrote.

      Todd Palin told the officer he got his pistol to “protect his family” and met his son with the gun when he came to the door, according to the affidavit.

      Track Palin broke a window and came through it, and put his father on the ground, the report states. He began hitting him on the head.”

    • jesterpunk

      He is 28 and still lives at home? Why doesnt he have his own place and a job?

    • BMW

      #thanksobama

    • Anne Of Green Bagels

      someone is gonna wind up second amendmented.

    • Me not sure

      “In today’s headlines: Train Jumps Track, Track Jumps Dad.”

    • armed_bears

      If we can just get Track to marry Honey Boo-Boo, TLC would be set forever.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        19 felonies and counting…

        • armed_bears

          Drunk Dynasty.

      • Me not sure

        Too late. Roy Moore is already in talks.

    • Timothy Watson

      Ugh, I would make jokes but I think Track has some serious mental health issues.

      • redarmyzombie

        I’m certain he does. His family is not helping him.

      • Alcohol is not medicine or a treatment plan.

        • OrG

          Bite your tongue.

      • LeftyProud

        Oh, I am with you. Part of me relishes in the detail of Track disarming Todd (I don’t know why), but I have had my share of ambulances /police come to my house when I was young, so I have a pang of empathy.

        • Timothy Watson

          After reading the story, I’m really surprised it didn’t end in at least a suicide (by cop).

    • Live by the fist, get beat to crap with your son’s fists?

      Those snowbillys have fucked with every meme

    • redarmyzombie

      Forgive me if I have no sympathy for Todd. Pulling a gun on your own kid? I could say more, but it most certainly would run afoul of the commenting rules.

      • Buzz1313

        I have a little sympathy for him (NOT). Imagine the look on his face when his son came through the window and subsequently beat his ass. Todd Palin always struck me as a wannabe badass, good ol’ boy type. Getting owned by his son had to hurt, Shame Track’s mother couldn’t use her celebrity to help her son and guys like him. Jill Biden and Michelle Obama advocated for military families and Sarah did a string of shitty reality shows.

    • georgiaburning

      It’s about time white trailer trash started kneeling at NFL games, their families are taking it on the chin, too. Like that’s going to happen

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Most of them are already kneeling by halftime, usually in front of the restroom trough puking up all that overpriced beer

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      The family that John McCain believed worthy of being the second family and a heart beat away from the presidency. Let us compare to them to the Mondales, Gores and Bidens shall we.

      • HogeyeGrex

        The common clay of the new west.

    • cmd resistor

      And sadly, as I was reading that, I asked myself, which family is trashier, the Trumps or the Palins? At least the Palins don’t act like they are particularly socially superior. Well, not that it matters.

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        eh, hum, read the line about Trick (Train, Triad whoever) calling the first responders “peasants” … lolololol If he had been black …. well we know what would planning would be involved today.

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    I put in an offer for 10 bitcoin coins for $5. (The phony gold plated coins.) I am going to be a douchebag millionaire for New Years.

    • TJ Barke

      You best bankroll the wonkette in perpetuity or until the value plummets, whichever happens first.

      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

        I am riding so high when I spend my five.
        What it means to be alive and that is no jive!

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      10 Quatloos!

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        and a bouquet of Tulips!

      • Lord Jim

        10 bars of gold pressed latinum!

    • Crank Tango

      I have three bags of hobo bitbeans, 2 black and 1 lentil.

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      I’m in for 30 pantaloon dubloons!

    • All my gold coins have chocolate in them. So there is that bonus.

    • Victoria Ricola

      I’ve been eating Christmas cookies with every meal since December 2nd, so I am going to be an unhealthy blob with terrible skin for New Years. You win.

    • redarmyzombie

      Sorry, are we doing whore diamonds this year or exposure dollars?

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        that’s an easy one…i’ll take whore diamonds every time–i been chumped on that exposure dollar thing before…wha, ya think i just fell off the turnip truck?

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

      jinx

  • Cogswell – Overlord of Barsoom

    Sorry if this has been posted already (not really)
    https://twitter.com/SenateDems/status/942827232262803456

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      Too legible.

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    You know how Dotard could blow someone’s head off on Fifth Avenue and his knuckledragging, mouth-breathing base will still lerv him (as will the GOP Congress). Well, this ugly motherfucker’s mug could, and would, stop traffic dead on Fifth Avenue. Full Stop.

  • SayItWithWookies

    So they’re punishing states that don’t operate in a mode of constant fiscal crisis — just the way you’d want governments to be prepared for emergencies, especially at a time when the fucking idiots running the federal government can’t see their way to fully funding FEMA.

    • georgiaburning

      If the state is in continual fiscal crisis, it is much easier to blame everything on imagined welfare frauds, immigrants, or “entitlements” rather than the tax system not taking in enough to cover basic expenses like education, road repair and first responders.

      • Ninja0980

        Yup, tried and true method that sadly works.

    • TakingAmes

      Yup. The ones that contribute the most to this nation’s economy. Also known as the states where smart people want to live because they have amenities like restaurants that aren’t Applebee’s, and theaters that show plays that aren’t about the birth of Christ.

    • Bemused

      There’s also a clause in there specifically excluding reimbursement in case of fires. Guess which state burns the most? Yep, that’s targeted right where you think it is.

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      “Oh hey I see you balanced your budget this year. We’re gonna make sure you get punished for that.” -GOP.

  • GHERKINS du RESISTANCE!

    Someone ought to make a bunch of ads featuring George Soros thanking Trump and the Republicans for his fresh piles of money.

    He can build houses out of bill stacks, and tell them “Hey guys! Look! You built that!”

    Then he can knock them over into different envelopes marked “Planned Parenthood” and “Clinton Foundation.”

    Maybe his accountant can come in and suggest investing in golf courses to get even more tax refund money.

    “Great idea! This very wealthy man says thank you for this tax windfall, Donald Trump! Thank you Republicans for making it possible!”

    • Victoria Ricola

      This is an amazing idea and would be so much more effective than that rich guy on the commercials who keeps talking about how we need to impeach.

    • Odd Jørgensen

      Some pics of Javanka hobknobbing with Soros would be a nice touch too. just to get the wingnuts salivating some Moore.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    “Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations that’ve long since bought and paid for, the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pocket, and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and the information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them.”

    ― George Carlin

  • William
    • BadKitty904

      That’s because Turmp is a lying hypocrite.

    • 1captainhooker1

      Alternate edit: The train accident that just occurred in DuPont, WA shows more than ever why the fact that I’ve waited almost a year to deliver a promised infrastructure plan is A FUCKING CRIME AGAINST THE NATION.

      • Roni Raven, Sweet Lump

        But the rich will get their tax cuts.

      • CATMAN

        The important thing is that almost all railroad trackage, including where the WA accident occurred, is owned by the private sector and they are responsible for its upkeep, or lack thereof, so if Donny wants to give them public money for upgrades, it will just be another transfer of tax dollars to corporations

        • HogeyeGrex

          Offhand, I’d say “responsible” is a bit of a stretch.

    • Stulexington

      Let me guess, any Democrat who points out we also too need regulations will be shouted down as trying to take political advantage of this tragedy.

    • Rags

      Sadly, there’s no money left for infrastructure, sick children, science, education,…….
      Fuck each and every R.

    • Odd Jørgensen

      Asshole that just cut spending on the railroads infrastructure/upkeep say what?

  • Flatulus

    I’m guessing that Track Palin appears white or he would otherwise have been shot.

  • William
    • Trump’s Potemkin Village

      The real life embodiment of Pepe The Frog.

  • Resistance Ftr PuckStopsHere

    The true nature of the republic party has been lain bare in both the way they passed this bill –no public hearings; no credible report from Treasury and all the rest of it — as well as by what is in the bill. Like virtually everything else we have seen in the past 11 months, if you took everything the president* said on the campaign trail and enacted actual laws which were the exact opposite of what he said, this is what you would get. People in this country must LOVE being lied to. Trump’s claims about the effect of this tax bill on the amount of taxes he will pay prove his sociopathy as only one utterly lacking in emotion and thus utterly lacking in how to portray emotion could say what he has said about how it will affect what he pays and maintain a straight face while doing so. Any normal person would laugh so hard they’d piss themselves.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      His approval ratings have gone up this month, because idiots think he’s responsible for the booming economy. He can literally sell these rubes shit sandwiches.

  • Since I can feel my poor brain getting smaller every time I read anything to do with anyone in the Trump admin, this being no exception, let me say this:

    I watched the Wonder Woman movie for the first time a couple weeks ago and boy was that movie the tops. Cool story, action, a little lesson about history, fresh, exciting…until the end, when I learned in the end credits that the “Executive Producer” credit goes to: STEVE MNUCHIN. What the fuckin’ fuck.

    • HazooToo

      Wait what

    • ahughes798

      So he’s part of the Hollywood elite that conservatives are always whining about?

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        So are Steve Bannon and Dotard, but luckily the rubes never catch on.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        ding ding ding ding ding

    • HogeyeGrex

      Executive producer is often the credit for the guy who secures the funding, iirc.

    • Cat Cafe

      No, no, you really have it wrong, please console yourself. Credits have labyrinthine meanings in the movie and TV business, and here’s a quick explanation:

      In movies, “Executive Producer” is a total “vanity” credit. The actual producer’s credit is “Produced by” (not even “Producer”), which people fight to the death for, because it signifies that you actually were the producer of the movie. The actual producer will not only make sure he has the “Produced by” credit but will necessarily make sure that undeserving people do NOT have that credit.

      Close behind that is the credit “Producer,” which means you had a bit more to do with the movie but weren’t the actual Producer. Then there are things like “Associate Producer” which are usually sops to the writer.

      At the very, very bottom, and contemptuously meaningless, is the credit “Executive Producer.” It means, to everyone, “the asshole who we had to give a credit to because he procured some of the money, or somehow controls the rights to the underlying material.” Even the order in which they appear and where they appear is negotiated.

      Here are the actual producing credits on Wonder Woman, for example (and I explain them afterwards):
      Jon Berg … executive producer
      Wesley Coller … executive producer
      Tommy Gormley … co-producer
      Geoff Johns … executive producer
      Stephen Jones … executive producer
      Curt Kanemoto … co-producer (as Curtis Kanemoto)
      Steven Mnuchin … executive producer
      Charles Roven … producer (produced by) (p.g.a.)
      Rebecca Steel Roven … executive producer
      Enzo Sisti … line producer
      Deborah Snyder … producer (produced by) (p.g.a.)
      Zack Snyder … producer (produced by) (p.g.a.)
      Richard Suckle … producer (produced by) (p.g.a.)

      Notice the four “produced by” credits. Those are the actual producers, and who would receive an Oscar if the picture wins an Oscar. This is an alphabetical listing on IMDB, but if you look at the poster they are in specifically negotiated order. “Line producer” is the guy who oversees the mechanics of the production (makes sure the permits are all correct, negotiates the camera package, etc). Co-producer is kind of a non-credit, like “associate producer,” which can mean anything from “they did another job and we didn’t want to raise their quote, but we threw them this credit as a sop” to “this is my wife and fuck you, she gets a credit.” There are four “exec producer” credits, all people who had nothing to do with the actual production of the movie.

      It is completely different in TV. In TV, the “Executive Producer” is the person entirely in charge of and responsible for everything in the show. (I.e., Shonda Rhimes). The other producers are mostly writers who work under the E.P. and who have gained a measure of power and participation and salary (titles are heavily negotiated and often are more meaningful than salary). The “associate producer” is in charge of post-production. The “line producer” is the same as in a movie.

      In many cases there will be other rogue producer credits, same as in the movies, which can range from “someone who owned underlying material” to “someone with a part financial interest in the company that first financed this” to “someone’s girlfriend.” Steve Bannon has some kind of financial interest in Seinfeld somehow, for example. It actually has literally ZERO to do with the creative aspects or even the production aspects of the TV series or movie. ZERO.

      It’s been a source of great controversy as the producer credits proliferated randomly in the past few decades, which the Producers Guild is striving to bring under control.

      • MsEdgyNation

        Sooo… it’s kinda like Rump insisting on getting a cameo appearance in any film shot on his property?

        • Cat Cafe

          EgggggSACTLY. In that case, I’d bet anything, Trump begged them to use his property, offered it super cheap if they’d give him a walk-on, so he could get his big movie career.

      • I know, I know, I know. Please know that seeing the man’s name in the credits still sucks, no matter what limited role he played. Glad to learn about all this stuff, nonetheless!

        • Cat Cafe

          Oh, absolutely. I couldn’t agree more!! Just wanted to be clear that he actually would have had zero to do with the movie!

    • Zyxomma

      I thought it was just okay. I loved Gal Gadot; the rest … the less said, the better.

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      the movie ‘black mass’ about whitey bulger–johnny depp was pretty good, and the movie was a good depiciton of the psychopath bulger, the story was good…and in the credits, ‘steve mnuchin’….exec producers are the money men, they have no creative input (usually)

  • WotsAllThisThen

    Does this guy live in a high tax state? Or does he prefer to summer in Alabama?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      All his money is overseas in tax havens.

  • Donna Mueller

    mnuchin??? the same guy that had hundreds of people working around the clock to provide the actual REAL numbers about the effects of the repig tax breaks??? that all produced a single page screed that said-“it’s okay, ’cause i say so.” yeah-screw him AND his horse.

    • r m reddicks

      Have some pity on his and Roy Moore’s horse.

  • HogeyeGrex

    Nope. Not with votes.

  • Red Richmond

    With all that money you’d think mnuchin could invest in a better mask to hide his lizard-person face. They did a better job back in the 80s with that series V.

    • Zyxomma

      I never saw the 1984 series; how was it? I did see the one starring Morena Baccarin; I think that was 2009.

      • CripesAmighty

        Pretty good for network tv.

  • MsEdgyNation

    Howl howl gargle howl gargle howl howl howl gargle howl gargle howl howl gargle gargle howl gargle gargle gargle howl slurrp uuuurgh should have a good time. Message repeats. This is your captain speaking, so stop whatever you’re doing and pay attention.

    • redblack

      come again?

      • MsEdgyNation

        Nerd seizure. Douglas Adams quote. Sorry.

        • Weird Fishes

          You forgot the unhappy love affair

    • Illuminotquite

      I did the same kinda thing and (rightly) got smacked.

    • r m reddicks

      What happened to “argle, bargle”? Oh, that’s right

  • canes_pugnaces

    A shitbox in suburban NY is $700K with property taxes around $30K. And FYI: those burbs are Republican. Opps.

    • Ling Ling

      I’m sure this is playing out well in Orange County, CA

      • Evidence-based Ugly Dude

        That’s probably by design, since OC went for Hillary.

        • Carole

          Scott Baio Schadenfreude.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      I don’t know about the property tax cap, but the mortgage deduction cap is actually a good thing. The mortgage deduction skews housing in the U.S. towards sprawl, single family, unnecessary square footage, and overpricing. It needs to be replaced, or supplemented with tax incentives for permanent low income (not the current bullshit where you get tax breaks to build, put Section 8 in for three years and then kick them out for full price buyers), plus multi-family, mixed use, first-time buyers (with additional incentives for first-in-family) and “hub” or transpo-friendly housing.

      • suziq

        My property taxes were $9900 this year so I could see them going over 10 grand soon and easily. We have high taxes and I will be pissed when I can’t deduct them all. Also too, not sure but weren’t they lumping in other things to that maxed out at the 10k? Like state and sales tax? Could have been under discussion or changed but basically I could see paying more in taxes soon. Which, if it went to health care for all or help for starving kids and whatnot I would be FINE with it. What I am not fine with is tax cuts for the super rich, and super low business taxes and raising defense spending. Fuck them.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          I think it’s mortgage deduction and property taxes that were lumped; local taxes are just out as deductions entirely, along with home office deduction (a huge one for me), business transpo, and a lot of SE business expenses. Looks like the education ones were mostly written out, but who knows with these assholes.

  • atheist

    Why doesn’t he just admit that he’s raising taxes at the poor.

    • Illuminotquite

      If you have to ask, then you can’t afford it.

  • andyk304

    Someone needs to show Stevie and Mrs. Stevie a photo of Il Duce and Clara Petacci getting some air in Milan in 1945. I’m not suggesting that anyone should recreate that photo using the Mnuchin’s as stand-in’s, but at some point people are going to become awfully angry due not only to his acts, but to Mnuchin’s- and the missus’- rather, uhm…Cavalier attitudes. You never know to what measures people will go to extinguish an anger that burns white hot.

    Back to polishing Mme. Guillotine’s tooth…

    • little miss high and mighty

      no, dull and rusty more better revenge.
      sharp and polished is too comfortable.

    • r m reddicks

      I think Tillerson has an Esso Station there we can use.

  • RugzYaBurnt

    Ya know how you can spot a couple of pieces of nouveau riche total trash? When they think it’s super impressive to pose with a sheet of *single dollar bills.*

  • Dianna Deem

    Actually, some rich Rs too, both in CA and NY. Joisy, also, too.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Noo Yawk rich GOPers must be pissed, since my Teabagger Congresstwit, who lives to serve their needs, claims he is a firm “no” on the tax bill.

  • Odd Jørgensen

    Ratfucking, display it loud and proud Munchkin.

  • sgt. jmk of the résistance

    Jesus Christmas, the only explanation I can think of for the pride in his own skeevy cleverness he obviously takes is that he probably legitimately thinks that everyone is as amoral as he is.

  • r m reddicks

    I always wondered where Rabbi Glickman/Kirschbaum got off to.

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