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When your only tool is a GE M134 Minigun, every problem looks like confetti
When your only tool is a GE M134 Minigun, every problem looks like confetti

So, thank goodness, in the very first gun legislation to make any progress in Congress since the mass shootings in Las Vegas and in Sutherland Springs, Texas, the House passed a bill yesterday that will mandate that all states recognize concealed-carry firearms licenses from other states, regardless of how loose the licensing requirements are in the issuing state. The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act makes a really nice Christmas gift for the National Rifle Association, which made passing the thing its top legislative priority for 2017.

Yep, we might be getting a law to allow gun humpers to hump their guns across state lines before we get reauthorization of the Children’s Health Insurance Program. Honestly, poor kids need a far more effective lobby, and maybe some scary ads.

To make the reciprocity bill seem more worth passing, it was combined with another measure aimed at improving the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which is used for “instant” (really, up to three-day) checks to see if gun purchasers have criminal records, convictions on domestic abuse charges, or involuntary commitments to mental health facilities. The “Fix NICS Act” would require better compliance by state and federal agencies in reporting data to the FBI for use in NICS, which is a pretty big deal because the shooter in Texas never should have had a gun in the first place, but the Air Force failed to report his conviction for domestic violence.

The bill would also require ATF to start keeping data on the use of “bump stocks” in crimes; those are the fun accessories (to murder) that enable a semiautomatic rifle to achieve a rate of fire similar to a fully automatic weapon. The Las Vegas shooter had a whole room full of the goddamned things. No actual restrictions on the sale of bump stocks are in the bill, but ATF is at least considering tightening its regulations on them, or possibly banning them outright.

The NRA has been pushing the reciprocity bill as a matter of simple fairness — if your California driver’s license is good in Iowa, why shouldn’t your concealed carry license be good everywhere else, too? Of course, pretty much all states require at least some demonstration — at the age of 16, admittedly — of the ability to drive a car, while states vary more widely on the conditions for a concealed carry permit. Some states require extensive training, gun-range training, and even a test of the applicant’s ability to hit a target with some degree of accuracy. Other states issue a permit to anyone who applies. Twelve states allow concealed carry of a handgun with no permit of all. Guess which states are going to be really popular with idiots? Haha, we kid — they already are, obviously.

Former Arizona Rep. Gabby Giffords, who was shot in the head during a mass shooting that killed six in 2011, said, “Congress has failed the American people”:

After two of our nation’s worst mass shootings, Congress took direct instruction from the gun lobby and passed a bill that will override existing state laws and allow dangerous, untrained people to carry guns in every state and every city. Let’s be clear: These politicians are trading our safety for political contributions from the gun lobby.

Giffords and her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly, co-founded the gun safety group Americans for Responsible Solutions (the group recently changed its name to just “Giffords“). Not seeing too many responsible solutions in the House this year.

While the concealed carry bill easily passed the House 231-198 (with six Dems voting for it, and 14 Rs against), the Senate is another matter. For a change, the reciprocity bill is not by any stretch of the imagination a funding bill, so it’s actually subject to a filibuster, and it’s uncertain whether eight Democrats can be found to vote for it, although seven currently serving Dems did vote for a similar reciprocity bill in 2013. Chris Murphy of Connecticut said any bill that combined concealed carry reciprocity with a fix to the background check system would be “dead in the Senate […] So this is just theater this week in the House. This isn’t lawmaking.” Even second-ranking Republican John Cornyn told the Daily Caller last week that while he supported both bills (concealed carry and fixing the NICS), he wanted them kept separate: “Combining them, I think, is to risk doing nothing,” he said.

Based on Senate performance this year, that almost certainly means the bills will be combined, and amendments repealing Obamacare and defunding ACORN will be added in.

To balance out the reciprocity measure, the District of Columbia’s nonvoting member of Congress, Eleanor Holmes Norton, filed an amendment Monday to help rightwing legislators prove they really do trust responsible American gun owners. Her amendment would keep the reciprocity law from going into effect until Congress also removed restrictions on law-abiding Americans packing heat in the Capitol complex. After all, a gun isn’t anything to be afraid of, and surely if someone showed up in the gallery with an AR-15 and started shooting, some hero lawmaker would pull their gun and send bullets in the other direction, thus saving the day after only a moderate body count.

It sounds like a pretty good “Gotcha” amendment, at least until you realize last year, Iowa congressman Steve King proposed allowing legislative aides to carry guns on Capitol grounds. He just didn’t push his brilliant idea far enough. Sadly, Norton’s perfectly reasonable amendment wasn’t part of the final version of the House bill.

Correction: We originally had the name of the #2 Senate Republican as “John Conyers,” because sometimes our brain thinks bad. Wonkette regrets the error.

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  • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

    Wow. It’s almost like “states’ rights” is just a dog whistle for racism or something, and not an actual respect of states’ rights.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Merry Christmas from the NRA!

    67 days after the Las Vegas massacre.

  • memzilla Ω

    Insert obligatory “What about the 10th Amendment!!” screeching >here<.

  • ManchuCandidate

    Happens between nations driver licenses too but that’s where it stops as saner nations don’t let foreign small penile gun humping kooks drive around in their lands with their guns either.

  • Joe Beese

    Former Arizona Rep. Gabby Giffords, who was shot in the head during a mass shooting that killed six in 2011, said, “Congress has failed the American people”.

    Maybe it’s just morning crankiness, but if she didn’t notice that Congress had failed the American people before now, she hasn’t been paying attention.

    • Weird Fishes

      Agreed. That statement is up there with “The sun rose in the East this morning.”

    • Katamount

      No no, not Congress. Republicans. Never let the deliberative body be conflated with the malignant tumor that is the GOP.

    • Non-Threatening Ron

      She’s said it before. I think she’s just hoping that people listen this time.

  • Scooby

    I was going to go on a 50 state crime spree, then I realized I would have to drive through Canada.

    • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

      Not to mention a boat, which is such a friggin’ pain.

    • therblig

      i think the 50 state strategy still has viability.

  • Michael R
  • gallbladder

    What could possibly go wrong?

  • Asterix

    Write to your Attorney General and demand they file suit to stop this bullshit immediately.

  • Tetman Callis

    Kill us all. Let God sort us out (though she likely has better things to do, such as composting).

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      And the devil take the hindmost?

      • Tetman Callis

        Why not? He’s already got the leaders of the pack.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • MynameisBlarney
    • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

      Is that – John Cleese with eyeliner? I know, just a little for the telly, but still. Mama approves.

  • God help the GOP and its funders if the people they’re encouraging to buy guns ever figure out where they should be pointing them.

    • Scalise’s perforation didn’t change a thing. I guess it would take someone shooting a Koch or a Mercer to get a change in policy.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Wouldn’t that be a shame.

      • janecita

        Or a Trump.

        • gallbladder

          He’d still not lose the presidency (see: remarks about shooting voters)

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        Jim Brady got shot. What did that do for gun control?

  • Jeffocaster in the East

    Take any logical approach to a topic. Take the opposite approach. Hench, you have the Republican agenda.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Two months ago the worst mass murder in our history…..and the Republicans do this.
    Yup…sounds exactly like what they would do.

    https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–fnpOw6Fs–/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ovgwcpzafpfzzp8pcyhv.gif

    • BigCSouthside

      Look man, if like 100 people there had their glock 17s they coulda laid down suppressing fire and then heroically shot the guy with their sniper skills

  • MynameisBlarney

    Fuck you, you fuckin turtle.

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141933323

    Godfuckingdammit I hate these fucking hypocrites.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Honestly, poor kids need a far more effective lobby, and maybe some scary ads.

    And more money and the ability to vote.

    • gallbladder

      …and live.

    • BigCSouthside

      And guns. Give poor people guns.

  • So much for Republican belief in states’ rights…

    • Oblios_Cap

      Crazy, ain’t it?

    • Gosala

      States rights, like fiscal responsibility, was never more than a tool to be used when useful and ignored when not.

  • Michael R
    • Joe Beese

      I still don’t understand who pays nine dollars for a newsstand issue of The New Yorker.

      • Oblios_Cap

        I overpay for a mailed issue of The Economist, which may come on any given day of the week.

      • Chyron HR

        $9 would be a steal just for the cat cartoons.

        • Ellie

          Or…my personal favorite: I say it’s spinach, and I say the hell with it.

      • Ellie

        I love my New Yorker subscription, and they frequently offer great deals.

        • Joe Beese

          Right. Those are subscription rates.

          But they have to sell some copies on newsstands, yes?

          • Ellie

            Yes, and I don’t disagree. I can’t imagine buying from a news stand.

          • puredog

            If I were in an airport waiting for a flight and with nothing to read (unlikely) and I hadn’t gotten my subscription copy of the latest NYer and it was there on the rack, I might buy it.

  • Katamount

    Which of course they’d do on the 28th anniversary of the Montreal Massacre. Sure, different country, still pisspoor optics to pass a gun-humping bill for toxically insecure men on the anniversary of a toxically insecure man murdering 14 young women specifically for being feminists (read: in college) with a gun.

    Ah, what am I saying? They don’t care about optics. Or women. Only libtards care about something silly like murdered women!

  • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

    Seriously… blue states, we need to start considering how we are going to leave this fucknut nation and start over with something saner. All like-minded people are welcome to join us…

    • janecita

      Also all our crazy fuckers are welcome to leave. They could all move to Alabama or Mississippi, we don’t want them.

    • amrak63

      Some of us are trapped here (economics, elderly relatives, etc.) in the fucknut states, with no way to leave.

      • Oblios_Cap

        I like the Gulf Coast, so I’ll stay and be a fifth-columnist.

    • Darlene Underdahl

      When the red states started starving, they’d swarm the blue.

      • janecita

        Good luck climbing our wall!

    • BigCSouthside

      What will your immigration policies be?

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    Because, why the fuck not.

    https://i.imgur.com/LvydiTj.jpg

  • Juan de Fuca

    When I used to drive from Fort Bragg, N.C. to visit family in New Jersey back in the 90’s, there was a huge billboard along I-95 on the Virginia side of the NC/VA state line that had a picture of a handgun with the caption:

    Have one of these? Get exiled for six years.

    Something along those lines. I never thought I’d say this but the 90’s were good times.

    • janecita

      Dude, the 90s were awesome! Biggest political scandal involved a blow job and a blue dress, those were simpler times.

      • BigCSouthside

        We ran a surplus, there weren’t any crazy forever wars, the terrorists largely kept to themselves and we didn’t have people constantly getting mowed down with assault rifles.

        And Snapple

        • Juan de Fuca

          And disposable cameras! Wait…maybe not those so much.

          • BigCSouthside

            Oh man I used to think the waterproof ones were the shit. I have no doubt there’s 3 or four of those sitting in one of my boxes from when I moved out years ago

          • Juan de Fuca

            Hell yeah, I had one of those when I first moved to Australia in the late 90’s. I still have a picture of me snorkeling with a black tip reef shark in Oz thanks to that camera.

  • Me not sure

    Can this even get past a Senate filibuster?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      As stated in the post, probably not.

      • Me not sure

        What’s the point? They have real issues like a debt limit extension, CHIP, etc. and this is what they do? Insane.

        • gallbladder

          See, those are fake issues nowadays. Gunz and Jeebus are all that count.

          • Gosala

            Guns and Jesus — just shiny things for the idiots. It is, it has always been, it will always be about the money.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          Throwing chaff to their fucking base. I’m so angry to do, I’ll show them blood in the water.

  • Michael R
    • Oblios_Cap

      I have no words…

    • gallbladder

      Don’t let Trump see this…

    • MynameisBlarney

      So…cat food?

    • therblig

      i don’t know. this and dok’s graphic at the top kind of make me want to get some guns now.

      and maybe some ramen for lunch.

      • weighmaster

        have you ever used blocks of uncooked ramen as targets? I think I want to.

        • therblig

          “glock a block” has a nice ring to it.

    • VirginiaCannedYuleLog

      Not sure if I like this interpretation of Peter and the Wolf or not.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Shouldn’t this carry a Public Health Warning? I don’t think letting a cat sneeze on your noodles can be hygienic.

    • Katamount

      So that’s a thing that happened.

  • FlemmishSpy

    My state’s gun laws are so lax…

    You can conceal carry in a public swimming pool.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      “But…that’s a Compact Laser Deluxe!”
      “Where were you hiding that?”

    • therblig

      is that a pistol in your pocket or, oh yeah, it is a pistol

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Even the Heller decision doesn’t go that far.

    • puredog

      “Is that a gun in your Speedos or are you just happy to see me?”

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Michael R

    .
    Senator Al Franken (D-MN) is scheduled to give a speech on the Senate floor Thursday after his colleagues called for him to resign over multiple groping and sexual harassment allegations.

    Franken is scheduled to speak at 11:45 a.m. (ET).

  • mjs

    As long as the basic level of firearms enforcement and law is the federal level, why not? Why let ridiculously anti or pro-gun states dictate national policy? Are we suddenly all about states rights now?

    • Juan de Fuca

      Good point but I think one of the biggest problems relating to gun violence is that a lot of the states with the strictest gun control laws are being flooded with firearms from states that don’t have strict gun regulations and this does absolutely nothing to solve that problem. If anything, it makes it an even bigger problem.

      We are not changing our gun nut culture, at all, with this type of legislation. And we seriously need a cultural change when it comes to firearms. Just my $0.02.

  • La forza del resistino

    The party of States Rights did what?

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    The US has some catching up to Venezuela and Honduras in per cap death rates. Good on the House for working on ways to make USA #1! USA! USA!

  • amrak63

    Guns, shmuns.

    When’s the NRA gonna stick up for my Madoka-given right to own my own automated planet destroyer?

    https://i.imgur.com/hrL5Pbm.jpg

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    America, 2025:
    “Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Jones. It’s a healthy baby girl. Now then, here’s your discharge papers, your bill, and your new daughter’s mandatory-issue 9mm Glock.”

  • amrak63

    When’s the NRA gonna stick up for my right to own a magical unicorn pony who shoots energy blasts out of her horn?

    https://i.imgur.com/zZWf92M.gif

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Posted this in the “Wonkagenda” thread, but really, this is the place for it.

    “States rights” is SUCH a mutable term to Republicans. It is as elastic and, when necessary, casually discarded as all of their other “principles.”

    • gallbladder

      A vote-getter and nothing more.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Similar to “term limits”.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Family values?

        • weejee

          “Sound science”

        • MynameisBlarney

          And good guy with a gun.

    • mjs

      Wait, suddenly we care about states rights?

    • Ninja0980

      States rights only applies when they want to keep racist and homophobic laws in place.

    • Querolous

      A “mutable term” can be muted at need?

  • MynameisBlarney

    Remember this?

    13 years ago…

    Wow…the world seemed so full of promise way back then…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xk

    • gallbladder

      We need that guy more than ever.

  • Ghenghis McCann

    But will you be able to enter the NRA HQ while packing heat? Don’t all rush at once to answer that.

  • FlemmishSpy

    I look forward to attending hockey games where all the fans are drunk & packin’ heat.

    • gallbladder

      It’ll give a whole new meaning to the term “shoot-out.”

      • Opalescent Riddles

        And sudden-death overtime.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Some of the high school football games down here may get interesting, seeing as I’ve seen more than one ammosexual carrying his penis extension in the market, where emotions generally don’t flare. Let the ref make a call against Cletus’s son’s team, however…

  • puredog

    Dok doesn’t quite spell it out and I’m too lazy to research it, but: Am I to assume that if you come from one of the twelve “no restrictions or requirements for concealed carry” states, you can now concealed-carry without a permit anywhere in the country?

    • beingreleased

      Yes. In fact, “Special Event Restrictions” won’t apply, so you could bring a gun to Times Square on New Years Eve in case a Mooslum looks at you funny.

      • Me not sure

        …or, for the matter the wife and kids.

    • From Russia with Love

      So if you have a driver license from Montana and you are driving in another state, you can ignore the posted speed limits.

    • Suttree

      One thing I like(d) about living in New Jersey is that you don’t have to assume that every asshole is walking around packing heat.

    • jesterpunk

      You can get a license in Virginia and carry anywhere. They have no residency requirements, no training requirements and you dont have to even touch a gun to get a license there.
      http://www.vaguntraining.com

    • doktorzoom

      Only if this passes the Senate, which looks less likely.

  • weejee

    Here’s hoping all of the folks who voted for this get to hear something they’ll never ever forget. The buzz of a round before the bang of the report.

  • beingreleased

    Then they joined hands and sang Down By the Riverside.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVXReRfZCM8

  • Well, I’m shocked. Shocked.

    But I’m sure they’ll offer up lots of thoughts and prayers for the next victims of mass shooting and the one after that and the one after that and the one after that…

    • ((( Augustus )))

      It’s a renewable resource!

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Sure could use a little good news today:

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/938792733845663744

    • BigCSouthside

      He’s not gonna have a good time there

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        As a corrections officer, I see a couple of decades of protective custody in Mr. Slager’s future. Too bad, so sad.

      • Ninja0980

        Be in lockdown 24/7, GOOD!

    • Red Richmond

      Holy shit, legitimately surprised by that. How often do they actually convict one of these fuckers? Can’t quite call it happy times because the guy he killed is still dead, but it’s a step in the right direction. Hope he spends a nice long miserable time in prison.

  • H0mer0

    Ah, good old Air Force! (and Military for that matter.) Protecting perpetrators of domestic violence and sexual assault in order not to ruin a promising career.*

    *I wuz active duty AF for 3 years plus a few months in the summers, so I’m not bashing the troops without skin in the game. Actually, I’m bashing the brass.

    • doktorzoom

      “Actually, I’m bashing the brass.”

      Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    The “Fix NICS Act” would require better compliance by state and federal agencies…

    Obviously, budget cuts are next for those agencies.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    #ThanksNRA
    Bringing Terrorism Home … For You™

  • Suttree

    So when will every white guy who doesn’t get out of your way on the sidewalk quick enough gets shot? Because that’s the only way this shit will stop.

    • JCfromNC

      “Officer, I felt threatened, because he probably had a gun. Practically everyone does these days. So I shot him, because it seemed aggressive when he didn’t immediately move to the other side of the sidewalk as I approached.”

      • Suttree

        Sound rational to me. White people scare me, and I’m one of them!

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    National Open Carry is next. More guns make us safer.
    http://themoroccantimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/terrorist21.jpg

    • Blackest Noobs

      ooooooh are balaclavas making a come back? terrorist chic?

    • Parakeetist
      • JCfromNC

        Oh, man, Trigun was one of my favorite animes. Depressing ending, but then that seems to be par for the course for stories out of that region.
        Vash the Stampede, the “Humanoid Typhoon”, the self-proclaimed warrior for LOVE AND PEACE — what a guy.

  • Katamount

    Just a nutty idea I had… here in Canada, tobacco products have warning labels that take up at least 50% of the packaging basically saying “this product will kill you” as required by government law. How about something similar for firearms? Every box of ammunition has to include a gruesome autopsy photo of what these bullets can do to a human body. Might crack that romantic cult mindset so many of these people have about “trees of liberty” and all that garbage. It’s not an infringement on the ability to bear arms, so it’d be totally constitutional!

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      It would never work. They would be looking for the boxes with the most gruesome pictures on them.

    • jesterpunk

      These gun nuts fantasize about shooting people.

      • Parakeetist

        Yep. That’s what they want.

  • nightmoth

    When I was a kid the only people who had guns were hunters and they had rifles for deer and squirrels. Policemen had handguns, but most people did not have handguns, or any guns at all. It was a BIG decision to get a gun. Now there’s this aura of fear and anxiety and truculence around guns—Gotta have a gun! Gotta get another! No damn gun control! Yet it’s coupled with a sort of casual attitude that has women throwing them in their handbags and getting shot by the toddler sitting in the shopping cart. It’s all really weird and schizoid. Americans have gone crazy.

    • Blackest Noobs

      dunno about your back in the day assumption that peeps didnt have guns cuz definitely was not my experience. but the mindset about guns were different.

      today they basically think of them as fucking toys, shit, you can get a pistol grip in pink. point being gun owners back then seemed to be more focused on being a responsible gun owner.

      there really is no such thing anymore in America, a responsible gun owner.

      • nightmoth

        I grew up white and middle class–other people’s gun exposure no doubt differed—today I can’t think of any white middle class neighbors who are not armed—well, maybe the cat lady–lol!
        Yeah, today people don’t take guns seriously. My evangelical neighbors bought pink bb guns for their two little girls, 8 and 10 years old. because the kids were jealous of their big brothers’ rifles.

  • pgjack

    Gotta keep those NRA and gun manufacturer’s donations coming. The GOP only cares about power. The desire of the majority of American people is not of their concern.

  • pgjack

    an we carry guns in the senate or the house or the supreme court? Not a chance, Republicans are evil but not that crazy.

    • Impatient

      And still not allowed in NRA’s headquarters building? Wimps.

  • guppy06

    The Congress shall have Power… To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and
    for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the
    United States(.)

    Unless we’re going to dabble in universal conscription I don’t see how a bunch of “strict constructionists” can claim Congress can tell states how to arm and discipline folks across state lines.

  • jesterpunk

    Will they allow guns at the RNC and Trump rallies now? Oh wait there might be too many people there in a very emotional state who might start shooting so they will keep the ban on guns at the RNC and rallies.

    • Blackest Noobs

      i hope so…lift the ban…i have a portable 20 mike-mike i liked to bring to the convention.

      • jesterpunk

        Just go in and put snappers on the floor before everyone gets in and leave then wait and see what happens.

  • goonemeritus

    Those bastards from New Jersey can visit New York as strapped as they want but it doesn’t mean we aren’t going to kick their asses just for being from Jersey.

    • Blackest Noobs

      and then they shot you and get lucky by landing a shot right between the ears.

      • ziggywiggy

        So goonemeritus makes a bad joke about NY vs NJ and you think I can up the stupidity by saying that person should get shot in the head!

        • Blackest Noobs

          sure because New Yorkers think they’re so better than everyone and New Jerseyians have chips on shoulders, so add the gasoline of letting conceal carry anywhere would lead to bullet in the head for everyone…and on christmas….MERRY GUNMAS!!!!

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Does this mean NYC will actually be safer at night than in daytime because night is when all the dumbass white commuters who are carrying have gone home?

      • goonemeritus

        It depends on the neighborhood, I never feel safe near NYU, those annoying film students just won’t leave you alone.

  • Relativicus

    You bring up an important topic. Has Congress fully abicated their constitutional obligation to defund ACORN several times a year? I can’t say I’ve heard them defund ACORN even once this year and we are already halfway through. What gives?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Look on the bright side. Maybe with all these guns carried to public venues by scared white jerks, arrogant white jerks will finally be afraid to show up to a costume party in blackface.

  • h4rr4r

    The ATF should never have allowed them.

    The ATF seemingly randomly decides what is allowed and what is not allowed. Silencers for paintball get regulated as a real silencer but bump stocks are legal? What the fuck?

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      Usually when the government acts arbitrarily and capriciously like that, it’s assumed to be because of some kind of corruption. Which is why “arbitrary and capricious” is the legal standard used to decide whether such a decision can be overturned.

      • h4rr4r

        It would not be random to ban a device capable of turning a semiauto into a full auto. This is why drop in sears are banned for example.

        • Cornelius Fussbudget

          In fact, it seems a lot more random to allow them.

          • h4rr4r

            They banned them when they had springs or levers but once they only held the gun that was considered ok. Which seems totally arbitrary. The result should be the standard.

            Which is why paintball/airgun silencers should be legal. They would not work on firearms as they are plastic devices meant to contain low pressures. The result of using them on a firearm is bits of plastic being thrown in all directions and no real silencing.

          • Cornelius Fussbudget

            I’d guess whoever makes them didn’t pony up enough money to the NRA.

          • h4rr4r

            The NRA has nothing to do with this stuff, not for firearms.

    • JoeChristmas

      What part of 2nd Amendment lunacy don’t you understand?

      • h4rr4r

        Mostly the lunacy and how it go into the ATF.

  • Alienist

    I fear that this is a set-up. They pass a law saying that all states must honor the firearms laws of other states, then when the law faces legal challenge, they question why these laws are state specific but all states must honor the same sex marriage rules and marriage benefits rules of other states. It’s a trap! (Am I paranoid? Really, you can tell me if I’m paranoid!)

    • phoenix00

      Not a set-up, more like deliberately-constructed hypocritical logic trap.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Why does health insurance policy have to be totally localized, while gun policy absolutely must be uniform(ly weak) in all 50 states?

    • JCfromNC

      If gun policy was like health policy — in the sense that it was about seeing that everyone had full access to the best guns, including the poors and the blahs — then we would be seeing a lot less effort put into making sure it was as free of restrictions as we see being done now.

      If health policy was more about maximizing sales (and hence profits) to the suppliers, then maybe it would have a lobby that could financially strong-arm Congress, too.

    • phoenix00

      Three letters: N. R. A.

  • azeyote

    more guns and less food for the hungry may make for an inevitable problem – although more private prisons, that pay slave labor wages, will fix that right up – certainly the juvenile inmates will be thrilled just to eat, and as adults mandatory minimums will give them a lifetime of employment, and profits will soar – winning in the trump age –

  • The Wanderer

    School shooting in New Mexico.

    • Scrofula

      meh, only two kids? Not even enough to warrant prayers for their freedom corpses.

      • Zach Williams

        They were sacrificed for our freedumb

  • Steely_Fan

    Sorry if someone already posted on this, but the second ranking rethuglican in the senate is John Cornyn, not John Conyers.

    • doktorzoom

      God, I’m A IDIOT. fixed. Also, next you’ll tell me Kentucky and Tennessee are different places.

      • Steely_Fan

        Nobody’s perfect. You get so much so right so much of the time little glitches like this don’t mean sheeit.

  • Zach Williams

    Off-topic: The setting of the show that header gif is from still has tighter gun control laws than America.
    Kinda sad but not surprising.
    Also, everyone in that show has to use airsoft guns EXCEPT FOR the purple haired chick.
    She’s somehow getting real full-auto weapons.

  • This is cool, Jose and Ahmed can now buy guns (legally) where ever they want and carry them to wherever they want. It don’t matter no more that Bubba won’t sell them and the poor gay couple any guns for their own protection under the name of religious freedom.

  • CATMAN

    Am I getting forgetful as I get older, but I seem to remember the Republican Party was a staunch defender of “states rights” but that has fallen by the wayside when the subject is guns or marijuana–states can’t regulate the first one and they can’t legalize the second

  • gratuitous

    Gabby Giffords: You’re right; Congress failed the American people with this bill, but they came through big time for the NRA, their actual constituency.

  • gene108

    The NRA has been pushing the reciprocity bill as a matter of simple fairness — if your California driver’s license is good in Iowa

    Our states rights loving NRA and Republicans don’t seem to fucking understand CONGRESS DID NOT PASS LAW REQUIRING DRIVER’S LICENSES TO BE RECOGNIZED BY OTHER STATES!!!!

    States all ended up with basically similar rules regarding qualifying to drive. This was a decision between the states, with no help from Congress.

    Now, if Iowa’s driver’s licensing law was anyone, who owns a car automatically gets a driver’s license – like some states now have with anyone, who owns a gun can conceal carry – without the need for any tests or training, California might have an issue recognizing an Iowa driver’s license.

  • phoenix00

    Sabagebu! is such glorious schlock, everybody should watch it.

  • SeeTrainOffTheRails

    “More guns makes us safer.”

    Just like more exercise equipment makes his thinner.

    We have a rowing machine, a stationary bicycle and a stair climber at home. They’re essentially overpriced coat racks. But sure, LET’S GET THAT NAUTILUS EQUIPMENT!

  • sgt. jmk of the résistance

    My idiotic Congresstwit, the loathsome “Flee” (Lee) Zeldin, is super proud of this bill. He’s also an asshat who has Bannon headlining an upcoming (out of district) fundraiser.

    That man can’t lose his job fast enough for me.

    Funny how these assholes shriek about how Roe overreached because individual states should set their own abortion rules but don’t like states’ rights so much when it’s time to control their boomers.

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