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The Trump administration’s obsession with overturning every last vestige of the Obama presidency continues apace, with a rule change announced this week by the Labor Department. The new rules would allow restaurants to force waitstaff, bartenders, bussers, and other tipped employees making more than minimum wage to pool their tips, to be shared with kitchen staff, dishwashers, and others who don’t work in public-facing, tipped jobs. Or maybe the pooled tips could go to the restaurant managers/owners, as long as everyone in the restaurant is paid at least the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. Yes, really, this is a thing.

The department frames this as a matter of “fairness,” you see:

“These ‘back of the house’ employees contribute to the overall customer experience, but may receive less compensation than their traditionally tipped co-workers,” the department said.

Federal labor laws have prohibited tip-pooling for employees who receive less than minimum wage, under the assumption that tips would bring workers up to at least an average of minimum wage. The Obama administration put in place a regulation in 2011 saying that all tips belong to the individual employee, regardless of base pay. Trump’s Labor Department wants to eliminate that rule, and wouldn’t you know it, restaurant industry types are delighted by the change:

“We applaud the Department of Labor’s review of tip regulations,” said Angelo Amador, executive director of the Restaurant Law Center, in a statement. “We look forward to submitting comments from the restaurant industry on the new rulemaking.”

Unions and worker advocates warn that the change would make it legal for employers to simply take the tips and add them to their profits, because of course they’d do that, the rat bastards. Heidi Shierholz, a senior economist for the Economic Policy Institute, isn’t a fan of the proposed rule change:

“This would be a big transfer of money from workers to employers,” said Shierholz, who previously worked for Obama’s Labor Department. “The restaurant industry has wanted this forever. They want to be able to capture tips.”

You think? You might almost get the impression that Donald Trump doesn’t give two shits for workers, which is a complete surprise for a guy whose first nominee for Labor secretary loved the idea of replacing fast food staff with robots, who raided casino employees’ retirement accounts, who tried to bust a union organizing drive at his Las Vegas hotel (and failed, yay!), and who was — big surprise — sued for stealing employees’ tips at his Trump Soho luxury hotel.

As The Takeout notes, this regulation would legalize an already notorious problem in the restaurant business:

The Economic Policy Institute finds that this form of wage theft is common, costing workers $8 billion annually. That’s an average of $3,300 to a year-round worker who is likely already among some of the lowest-paid employees in the country. The EPI goes on to say that servers and bartenders are much more vulnerable to wage theft than other types of workers.

And while waitstaff in upscale restaurants can get tips that average out, with wages, to a pay rate of as much as $20 an hour, most get far less — Bureau of Labor Statistics figures indicate the average wage for servers is $9.61, while dishwashers and bartenders get an average of $10 an hour.

A lawyer for the National Restaurant Association, Paul DeCamp — who also worked in the Labor Department under Bush II — pushed tip pooling as a matter of simple equality:

“You see the people in the front of the house making twice what the people in the back of the house are making,” he said. “It’s a real disparity.”

Hmm… sounds like wealth redistribution to us. DeCamp also reassured WaPo that restaurateurs would never dream of pocketing servers’ tips for themselves, because the Invisible Hand of the Free Market wouldn’t let that happen:

“If you’ve got restaurants where you’ve got tipped employees, but the restaurants are keeping all the tips, you’re not going to have those tipped employees anymore,” he said.

Or if you legalize theft of tips, you’ll soon have an industry where waitstaff will be told they’re getting paid plenty, the law says the management can pocket the tips, and if the servers don’t like it there’s always somebody willing to work the same job for less pay. And maybe the way to deal with that disparity between staff pay rates would be to pay kitchen staff more? We know, we’re commie dreamers.

As The Takeout explains, even prominent restaurateurs have been sued for tip theft,

including Charlie Trotter, Mario Batali, and the owners of Zahav. If the proposed Department of Labor changes are enacted, this all-too-common practice would be completely legal.

Before this suckass rule can go into effect, there is a mandatory public comment period; information on how to comment is here, the comment portal itself is right here (read the how-to comment document first), and for completeness nerds, the full text of the rule change is here.

Tipping is a stupid practice that most civilized countries have gotten rid of in favor of paying decent wages. This rule is aimed at the worst of both worlds: low pay for restaurant staff, and a loophole to let management take the tips that will still be given. Fuck these bastards, give them an earful. Politely, of course.

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  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Guess I better dust off my cookbooks, because I don’t want to support this. Fuck.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Do you have To Serve Trump?

      • Gayer Than Thou

        There’s not a single recipe in that book that anyone wants.

      • Daniel

        A reminder that in Britain that means “fart”.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Preferably well done with an apple in his mouth.

        • Msgr_MΩment

          Very well done, and marinated in ketchup. Tip directly into the trash.

  • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist
  • Bananas Foster

    Tip your servers in cash.

    ALWAYS.

    • SpideySenser
    • Daniel

      But what about the infinite reward they’ll get when one of my Chick Tracts leads them to Jesus?

      • Lascauxcaveman

        As long as that Chick tract is folded up into a nice, crisp ten or twenty dollar bill, I’m sure your server will be pleased.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Cut out the middleman. Give the Chick Tracts directly to the owners. Especially if you’ve got one about not stealing.

    • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

      *Unless you’ve gotten confirmation from the server that they get ALL their credit card tips same day and there’s no pooling. I always ask.

    • Non-Threatening Ron

      I get my mohawk trimmed at the same place, once a month (I’d go twice but it’s not in the budget.) I use plastic because Canadian, but the rule there is that if the customer tips using plastic, the stylist takes the tip in cash from the cash drawer, so in this one instance I don’t worry. Everywhere else, cash.

      • willi0000000

        that’s why we can’t have anything nice . . . those Canuckastanians have corralled all the nice and are keeping it in the far north.

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          You can have some, but you have to get those awful people out of government first. Then we’ll talk.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    “under the assumption that tips would bring workers up to at least an average of minimum wage.”

    I got fucked on this “assumption” by the managers of a restaurant in chicago – “it all evens out – so no paychecks.”

    • Anarchy Unicorn

      In theory, if you make less than minimum you are supposed to go to your employer to make up the difference. In practice, if you do this you will find yourself unemployed.

      I live in one of the 3 states that doesn’t have an alternative minimum wage for tipped servers. It’s never personally been a problem, but alternative minimums are awful for workers.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        that’s what a coworker told me at the time – ’98 or 99 or so – but it was apparently too much bother for them.

        Fuckers. (And they were making GOOD money, this wasn’t a chicken shack, it was mid-to slightly upscale customer base – who are SHIT tippers, ask any server!)

      • Lascauxcaveman

        In the state of Warshington, the restaurant has to pay the employee the minimum state wage, $11/hr, with no tip-credit fuckery allowed in regard to the hourly rate. The actual tips servers receive may or may not be pooled (at the employers discretion) but this is currently being litigated in the 9th Circuit.

        • Meccalopolis

          last I heard, minimum wage in NY for servers was $2.13, fuck this shit

          • Lascauxcaveman

            The googles say it is now $7.50, tips not counted. The employer can assume up to $2.20/hr for tips, bringing them up to the $9.70/hr state minimum wage. Still not great.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    It’s almost like they want a worker’s revolt.

    • Non-Threatening Ron

      If they want one so badly I suggest we be nice and give them one.

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    Yes, do this.

    Employees, I need cheap restaurant equipment, and all the bar stools, tables, and chairs you got. Tap lines? Don’t really need them, ahh what the hell. Pull ’em out and I’ll throw in some extra.

  • JMP

    Business owners have always leeched off the labor of their employees, but this is making it really obvious.

  • Michael Smith

    White Working Class Voters Many of Whom Depend on Service Industry Jobs For a Meager Living:

    “Hey, once the President gets all the blacks off welfare, we will be able to keep more of our paychecks anyway, so this doesn’t matter. And did you see the President is standing up to them Mooslims and moving our embassy to Jerusalem? Finally, someone in the White House who is a Real American!”

    • WeaselPoo

      I’ve heard this from some of my acquintances who are of a group that the GOP loves to insist are enslaved by Democratic party welfare programs. Some people are very stupid.

      • Non-Threatening Ron

        And they vote. Reliably.

  • Joe Beese

    Maybe the timing is just a coincidence.

    https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/938449765993459715

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      They need to show that Roy Moore is just as bad as Franken.

      • BigCSouthside

        They are seriously taking all the bait. This is fucking nuts. It’s EXACTLY what the GOP wanted

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          That’s what makes this so gut-wrenching. It’s gone from a moral issue to a political one.

    • Joe Beese
      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

        Why?

        • Joe Beese

          She’s also from Minnesota. She may also be the only other female Democratic senator not on the bandwagon yet, for all I know.

    • BigCSouthside

      I’ve been offline for a bit. What the fuck spurred this?

      • willi0000000

        what spurs most things like this? . . . STUPIDITY!

        [ . . . or some republicans called their offices claiming to be Democratic voters and complained bitter crocodile tears ]

  • jesterpunk

    Oh good so now you can feel even more pressure to tip well even for bad service when you go out to eat. I hate tipping, you already pay for the food and pay extra for the convenience of not cooking yourself and get the receipt with “suggested tip amounts” and the guilt trip that its how the wait staff is being paid. The owners should pay their employees well like every other civilized country does then tips would just be for really good service.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      It’s quite a racket, and one in which you’re not really sure how well that nice kid who served you is being compensated. It’s one of the reasons I almost never eat out. That and being a really good cook. And being really poor.

      • LeftyProud

        No, if you had bad service, tip well, if not, don’t tip well. Usually the server will ask if he was something was wrong if they got a bad tip. You can say “yes, there was!”

        • Lascauxcaveman

          Well, the salient point of the article above is that the tips are not necessarily going to the server. They could be going to the back house boys, or the owner possibly.

        • Meccalopolis

          I aways tip well, they could have been having a bad day

  • schmannity

    Sharing tips is the 1% version of socialism.

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    OT: This just popped into my inbox.

    “The American Tort Reform Foundation placed the Georgia Supreme Court on a “Watch List” in its annual “Judicial Hellhole” report on jurisdictions “where judges in civil cases systematically apply laws and court procedures in an unfair and unbalanced manner, generally to the disadvantage of defendants.”

    I’ve worked on cases defending big insurance and now the local government. I don’t know the ins and outs like actual, experienced lawyers, but I’m always suspicious of the phrase “tort reform.”

    https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/sites/dailyreportonline/2017/12/05/florida-ranked-no-1-in-judicial-hellholes-report/?et=editorial&bu=Daily%20Report&cn=20171206&src=EMC-Email&pt=Breaking%20News

    • jesterpunk

      I am not a legal person but tort reform always seems to be to be a way to prevent people from being held responsible for their actions. Every time it comes up the argument is lawyers get paid too much and make things more expensive for companies. But if they didnt do illegal shit they wouldn’t be sued so much.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        i mean, yes and no, IMHO. As an anti-corporate, yet corporate defending lefty, the shit big corps pull in the name of profits CAN be literally obscene.

        On the other hand, in my work, I have seen some ASTOUNDINGLY stupid, obviously grifty claims. Out of the less than 10 or so cases i’ve worked in some way or fashion (VERY small sample), perhaps ONE was by a plaintiff who had an actual serious injury that ACTUALLY stemmed from the alleged incident, and that one was really neglectful parenting, IMHO. (hyperbolic analogy: “kids you go swim in the shark infested waters while mommy and daddy browse facebook. You got bit by the shark? LET’S SUE SEA WORLD!).

        It should be a balance, so grifty grifters can’t grift just cause the defendants have money (defendants do settle cases when its just cheaper and easier and faster – but it pisses me off) vs. people actually harmed by soulless money grubbing corps.

        • jesterpunk

          The lawsuit I always see come up when tort reform is discussed is the McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit and so many people dont understand the lawsuit or why McDonalds had to pay out so much

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            moreover, I guaran-fucking-tee they don’t know the damages were reduced in that case. That’s the thing – there’s a system in place for checks and balances (whether they are truly fair or not is up to the scholars and philosophers). That article mentions those tort reform dolts bitching about a verdict…that’s on appeal. If it survives, it might be lowered for one reason or another. Another case they were bitching about about got sent back down for a new trial on damages (i.e. they’re liable, but going ot argue how much $$$ to hand over).

            Does the system fuck up? Absolutely…but that thing is pretty disengenous.

          • jesterpunk

            She also was awarded a lot more then she wanted by the jury because McDonalds where being assholes. She only wanted her medical bills paid.

            https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            ah, I did not know that. Of course, that’s NEVER stuff you hear about when it’s brought up – as you noted.

          • Frenchie Renard

            Space Taco, I think we’re both studying law stuff, amirite? In Legal Ethics (quiet down, people) we learned Liebeck v. McDonald’s is usually cited by corporations who cry “frivolous” litigation when they are rightfully sued for product liability. Tort reform my sweet ass.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            nice to meet you Frenchie!

            We actually haven’t studied McDonald’s, but yeah, the hot coffee case?
            Then again, I DO see stuff that’s frivolous, it just never gets anywhere close to a trial.

          • Frenchie Renard

            Right! Almost certain a claim that makes it to trial has validity, so not “frivolous”. And I’m a big fan of your posts and pleased to meet you as well!

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            Exactly. Tort reform usually involves an effort to put a “cap” on how much a plaintiff can receive. How in the fuck is someone supposed to put a cap on a claim for medical malpractice against a negligent OBGYN who caused cerebral palsy by not delivering a baby by c-section in a timely manner?

          • FlownΩver

            The McDonald’s case is usually misrepresented as just a greedy-plaintiff matter. In fact it involved coffee so hot it caused a full-thickness flesh burn to the customer – with medical costs not unlike having burning coals thrown in your lap from the drive-through window.

    • WeaselPoo

      A tort is a pie, and tort reform is how that pie is divided: one party gets most of the pie, the other gets the crumbs.

      • Non-Threatening Ron

        Or just gets hit over the head with the empty plate.

    • OrG

      Tort reform means corporations can fuck you over and you have no recourse.

      • FlownΩver

        Tort reform means corporations get to spend major sums on legal fees to their counsel but we’ll stack the deck and make sure the other side of the case doesn’t have a means to secure representation.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      “Tort reform” to me smacks of the things like capping malpractice suits at $250,000 damages regardless of actual damage inflicted, or eliminating the ability of affected people to form a class action.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        ayup.
        Honestly, I feel a bit bad when it comes to governmental immunity for current office…cause it’s very broad (but not totally exclusive). We have caps on damages too – but from what I can tell from the case law, it’s basically about protecting taxpayer money. True or not, I dunno.

    • Lord Jim

      Not to worry. You should be able to stop worrying with civil litigation when it’s all brought to an end and any person with any claim of grievance against a commercial entity will be forced into arbitration. From whence they shall never return.

  • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

    The average wage for servers is $9.61? I can’t read the link as WaPo has put up a fucking paywall. But that number is utter bullshit. In many states, regardless of “up scale” or not the wage is 60% of min.

    • theblackdog

      You can get around the paywall by opening the WaPo link in a private mode or incognito tab.

      • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

        Do I have to own a trench coat and sunglasses?

        • theblackdog

          Yes but no pants, this is Wonkette after all

  • JohnBull

    May as well. It’s not like anyone will be able to afford grad school anymore so they CAN leave these crappy jobs.

  • The Wanderer

    Bastards.

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    Fuck that. Senators should have to pool their wages and contributions, to be shared equally with their staffs!…. and all lobbyists should have to pool their funding equally with the American public!…

    • jesterpunk
      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        I’m sure we could arrange a barracks for them all to live in…

        • Villago Delenda Est

          Too luxurious. Pup tents and sleeping bags. No cots, no air mattresses.

          Let them live the life of your average street person.

          • Non-Threatening Ron

            Does DC have enough subway grates for them to sleep on?

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Obviously, by their own statements, they don’t deserve to survive. The congresscritters are losers if they don’t make enough. Let ’em live in tents or DC steam grates and eat at the soup kitchens, assuming that someone will fund the soup kitchens and not put up barbed wire around the steam grates. Fuck these people with large, barbed objects.

      • Shan

        Then they should just leave.

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          Yup. Plenty of other people who’d like those jobs.

  • WeaselPoo

    The last time I was in the UK (2007) my 30 years of American experience prompted me to tip a bartender. She was actually insulted by the gesture. A tip should be personal and intimate, not institutionalized charity to compensate for lesser valuation of work and services.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Also too, more self-dealing for the Grifter-in-Chief. Trump will be able to steal tips from his immigrant servers now. He’ll probably get extra sneeze in his sneeze biscuits too, but he’s too stupid to know that.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      I for one am withholding future tips to KAC or SHS.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    In an odd but not unexpected way in our fucked up society, teachers are treated similarly. If the students in a school score poorly, all teachers become ineligible for a pay raise or face the loss of their job through a school reorganization.

    The upshot here is that while Republicans and conservatives might heap praise upon individuals for their work, the reality is that their economic policies render individual rights and achievements null in the face of institutional or corporate demands.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      speaking of which – there’s a godawful story out of New Mexico. A teacher was (allegedly) raped by a custodian or something after they were patting her down for missing drugs or money or some shit.

      Dear god – I’m not sure communism is the answer, but the free market sure as shit ain’t it either.

      • Lord Jim

        Communism is certainly not the only alternative, and is definitely not Marx’s vision for a better society. Communism, in which the state owns the means of production, is State Capitalism. Under Socialism, the workers own the means of production – not that lying “here’s a crumb of a share of stock” kind of “ownership”, but like partnership businesses.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I’ve had a few restaurant jobs. One was at one of those nice “family style” chain places, where we sometimes tip-pooled, but we made that decision on the fly every day, and one of the servers got to hold the kitty until we distributed in the evening. For us, that was sometimes a good way to do things because it encouraged us to work together to get bigger tips when we were slammed and if one of us got a crappy table with no tipping, it didn’t matter as much because we knew we’d still be OK. I also worked as a hostess at a place that tip shared (at the server’s discretion) with the me and the guys in the kitchen, and that was just a bonus, because frankly, were were being paid well enough (as HS or college summer workers) that even if we didn’t get a share, we were still getting enough. And again, it encouraged us to help the servers with things like table bussing when they were too busy with other stuff. But no, I wouldn’t trust a manager or owner with sticky fingers to be the custodian of the tip jar. We busted our asses in those jobs, and the tips were rightfully ours.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Pooling tips to share with back of house staff? DONALD JR. WARNED US ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING!

  • OrG

    Rethugs have NOTHING against wealth redistribution.
    Just so long as it’s going the right way.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Prezactly. From the productive to the parasites.

  • (((Sedagive)))
  • “Hey, Boss.”
    “Oh, hi, Tony.”
    “There are some concerns among the wait staff.”
    “Is this about the policy where all the tips go into my pocket at the end of the night?”
    “Well… I mean, they’re not exactly happy with that, but we mean the other changes you made.”
    “Like what?”
    “Well, the leg irons… no one is really happy about having to wear leg irons.”
    “Oh, okay. You know I wanted to order the non-chaffing kind, but they would have cost more.”
    “Also, they’re not exactly happy that you’ve set up cots for all of us and are forcing us to stay here all the time and never go home.”
    “I see your concerns, but think of all the money you’re saving on rent and commuting.”
    “But you’re charging us for food and rent, so we’re not making any money.”
    “I just can’t give away food, Tony, and real estate is very expensive in this neighborhood.”
    “You sold Angela to McDonald’s. Literally… sold her for a milk shake machine.”
    “We needed a milkshake machine. Okay, is that everything?”
    “No, I’m not particularly happy that John has been standing behind me whipping me this entire time.”
    “That’s because you’re talking, not working.”

  • TJ Barke

    This is so perverse. People that say socialism kills initiative and fails to motivate people by taking away reward for work are literally taking away a reward for work in the name of fairness? This universe is fucking madness…

  • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

    These ‘back of the house’ employees
    contribute to the overall customer experience, but may receive less
    compensation than their traditionally tipped co-workers.

    Wow, it’s almost like wait staff that are tipped well are being rewarded for excellent service or something, because their patrons know they make $2/hr and the chefs/dishwashers are making minimum wage at the very LEAST.

  • Gosala

    “These ‘back of the house’ [E]mployees contribute to the overall customer experience, but may receive less compensation than their traditionally tipped co-workers CEOs, top managers and stock holders,” the department said.

    Fucking commies.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Protect the parasites at all costs. This is the GOP rule now.

  • proudgrampa

    This will not stand…

  • Mr. Blobfish

    If their goal is to create a permanent underclass that votes Democrat, they are doing a good job.

    • GoutMachine

      Up next: Getting rid of their right to vote.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Off next: their heads.

        • gene108

          Will you or won’t you be guillotine grease, when the revolution comes?

          That is the question billionaires, corporate execs, etc. need to ask themselves.

        • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

          Let’s be fair – I think they’re just planning forced labor camps for us next. Murder will be when they’ve used us up.

          • Meccalopolis

            don’t forget being processed into soylent green! so we have that to look forward to

    • OrG

      In a reality based world, yeah.
      We do not live in that world.

    • gene108

      Do you think wait staff get enough time off to vote? Restaurant hours can be very long.

  • Joe Beese

    Baldwin and Casey bring the number of senators calling for Franken’s head to 8.

    • Joe Beese

      That is 17% of the Democratic senators who are not Al Franken.

    • BigCSouthside

      Did I miss something? Did something happen? Or is this just a case of the Democrats axing one of their own to gain moral high ground on a party that doesn’t give a fuck that they are morally bankrupt

      • Joe Beese

        A former Democratic congressional aide said Al Franken tried to forcibly kiss her after a taping of his radio show in 2006, three years before he became a U.S. senator.

        The aide, whose name POLITICO is withholding to protect her identity, said Franken (D-Minn.) pursued her after her boss had left the studio. She said she was gathering her belongings to follow her boss out of the room. When she turned around, Franken was in her face.

        The former staffer ducked to avoid Franken’s lips. As she hastily left the room, she said, Franken told her: “It’s my right as an entertainer.”

        https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/al-franken-accusation-sexual-harassment-2006-281049

        • Joe Beese

          And with the Person of the Year thing today…

      • TJ Barke

        It’s not about trying to convince republicans we’re better, it’s to convince fence sitters that say “both parties are the same”

        • BigCSouthside

          It doesn’t fucking matter. The fence sitters are perhaps the stupidest lowest information voters out there. The GOP will just lie and all of their shit will be forgotten and brushed off and they will face no consequences, aside from picking up more seats

        • TJ Barke

          Oh, and it’s the right thing to do.

          • BigCSouthside

            I get that but We are in a fucking dog fight right now. What this does is tells GOP ratfuckers all they have to do is push some accusals and we’ll drop the axe for them, meanwhile they brute force a fucking child molester into office all while making “liberal” out to be the worst thing you can be. I’d be fine with Al not seeking re-election.

          • TJ Barke

            Our society is so fucked.

          • BigCSouthside

            Agreed. I’m at a point where in this moment we can’t focus on winning moral victories. These fuckers supported a man accused of full on rape who bragged about it, and are now pushing an actual no bullshit child molester into the goddamn senate. They will weaponized our decency because they are morally bankrupt. We cannot give them any ground and we have to destroy them, or society now is going to look like a fucking Utopia compared to what it will be

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            I”m fine with Al seeking re-election… I’m pretty sure this is partly retribution. Every senator on the hill has some oppo research into his or her private/public life that can be spun badly. Every one…. (Not that Al is perfect, but an ugly, kissy little Georgie-Porgy is not the same as a presidential pussy-grabber, or child molester)…

          • Meccalopolis

            We’ve only seen tip of the iceberg on the pug legislator’s peccadilloes. Nancy is keeping her powder dry til Franken and Conyers resign

        • Meccalopolis

          and all women

    • gene108

      Interesting no Republicans are calling for Farenthold to resign…

      And the media isn’t even mentioning the $84,000 Farenthold had the tax payers pay to settle a sexual harassment suit at the same level they brought up Franken’s first allegation and the $15k Conyers paid out.

      Paul Ryan basically said the allegations haven’t been proven against Farenthold and therefore he effectively doesn’t give a shit.

      • cheetojeebus

        I think the ol ‘those that fall the farthest are hurt most by falling’ thing-ie we don’t expect fucking jitbag republicans to be honorable, we expect dems to not assault their coworkers. So, when they do we’re more pissed about it. AND when i say “we” i mean that rhetorically, I’m pissed as hell that pajama clad douche is getting away with it.

        • marxalot

          A very great fall requires a very great height. When you’re lying in the gutter, frothing and rutting against the ground, there’s nowhere to go down to.

  • Raan
    • Joe Beese

      Amy was more mentally stable than Trump.

      • Raan

        Marginally, but sure.

    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      wow…Gordon Ramsey does something I not only approve of BUT FUCKING LOVE!

      • Raan

        Hey, you doing alright? People were looking for you last night (or was it the night before?).

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          ah…my bad! I was off this week, but then monday mom had to go to ER, then ICU! (she’s okay and coming home today hopefully).

          Plus, I’m studying for finals this week AND cleaning house and prepping for aunt’s arrival tomorrow night. (also, been playing a lot of dead rising.)

          but i love my wonker friends!

          • Raan

            We’re just glad you’re alright.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            aw, thanks.

            : D

          • Non-Threatening Ron

            Been where you are with the housemate, more than once. It’s terrifying, isn’t it? In a way it’s good that you have finals coming up, but it can’t be easy keeping your mind on it.
            I hope she can come home.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            thanks ron! (And I remember a few of the scary moments you mentioned with housemate).

            It’s always scary, but she’s a tough ole broad, my mom. She doesn’t like being there either and she’s ready to come the fuck home!

          • Non-Threatening Ron

            Ha! Yeah, attitude counts for a lot. ‘I hate being here so I’m going to get better and go home!’

      • Joe Beese

        If you watch the original UK series – which has a totally different vibe than the the Fox freakshow version, though I love both – you see that he has a genuine feeling for the staff and wants them to be taken care of.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          i literally had no idea, i’ve just seen the clips of him being a fucking ass to cooking show contestants.

          • Raan

            That’s Heel!Ramsey. Both Kitchen Nightmares series’ are more or less Face!Ramsey.

          • Joe Beese

            That’s an especially apt description. The screaming at the Hell’s Kitchen contestants – who Anthony Bourdain memorably characterized as “the lame and the halt” – is completely an act. Off-camera, he tries to help them too.

          • marxalot

            Watch him with the kids’ cooking show he hosts. He is the most kind, thoughtful, delightful cooking coach with the under 16 crowd.

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            aw! that’s cool, honestly – cause I’ve seen those ads and thought, “What fresh hell is this??”

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          There’s a reason his restaurants have very high staff retention, and everyone clamors for a chance to work for him. He’s tough, demanding, and intolerant of incompetence, but his staff knows that if they do everything the way he wants he will go to the mat for them every time.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      Holy Shit! I guess from now on, I’ll have to ask who gets the tip and leave “zero” if the response is, “the owner.”

  • schmannity

    Now 8 D. Senators.

    • schmannity

      Sherrod Brown, #9 Buhbye Al,

  • Iron Monkey

    One of the few luxuries I still allow myself is overtipping in restaurants–I figure 25 percent as a minimum, more for really good service. I am really not interested in supporting the living standards of the owner of the place.

    • Bananas Foster

      As a former server, I salute you.

      It’s a fucking stressful job. People who haven’t done it really don’t seem to understand that.

      • Iron Monkey

        I really enjoy dining out with my wife–she has a neurological disorder that makes it hard for her to recall or concentrate on stuff we used do like plays, operas and movies but she relaxes and can enjoy herself in a restaurant so good service–even just ordinary service–is an important part of the experience.Whenever I have had a moment to explain that my wife my seem to take too long to make a decision on an order the server has almost always been understanding.

    • Smoke O’Hontas

      Cheers to you! I supported myself and my son for years as a server. It’s a damn hard job that deserves respect, and better than $2.33 an hour.

      I will no longer eat out if this shit passes. Fuck the owners.

    • Master Contrail Program

      Bartender here. I doff my chapeau to you.

      • OrG

        Former or current bartenders, wait staff and pizza delivery drivers are ALWAYS the best tippers.

        • OrG

          Oh yeah, and strippers too!

          • Master Contrail Program

            Hmm. Must be a geographic thing. Most strippers around these parts are shit tippers.

        • Master Contrail Program

          Yes. And bikers are generally excellent tippers. It’s almost an inverse relation with how intimidating they look.

          Generally awful tippers and usually a colossal pain in the ass though? Strippers.

          • grindstone

            Just about every biker I’ve known has gone out of his or her way to tip well. It’s like a tacit rule.

          • valgalky23

            Oh too bad, I was a waitress at a fancy high priced restaurant in Key West back in the 90s before I became a very high earning local celebrity bartender. One day these two lady strippers came in for lunch at the last minute. I’m a straight female and my fellow gay men waiters scoffed, insulted them under their breath and refused to serve them pulling rank leaving me to do it. I laughed at them…treated these two ladies like normal people and they ordered lobster, 3 bottles of champagne and damn near everything on the menu and tipped me $300 cash and told me how grateful they were that I treated them well. They were funny, pretty and great customers. Those gals in KW made serious bank per night in those days. They came back a couple weeks later and I wish they would have come in for lunch once a week.

            Lots of Bikers would come down to Key West after Bike Week Daytona and you’re right about them, they were great tippers and fine people.

          • Master Contrail Program

            Yeah, my experience was with strippers from some of the lower end clubs off the beaten path in NW Tampa. So it’s by no means universal I’d imagine. There were two strip clubs down the block from the bar I worked at and when the girls would come in they were usually awful. Later, I became a bouncer at the best of the low end strip clubs and the behavior and tipping of my coworkers was usually pretty shitty when we’d all go out.

            Could’ve just been the area but I’ve heard similar harrowing tales at various industry nights over the years. No big deal. The girls were a fraction of a percent of my regular clientele and I try my damndest to treat everybody well regardless.

        • arglebargle

          Best bartender job I had was in a place where the kitchen stayed open till 1:00 am. Lots of servers from other restaurants in the area would come in after they got off work. I’d make 3x as much from midnight to 2:00 as i did from 5-midnight. And no assholes.

    • GoutMachine

      Amen. I’m fortunate to make decent money and can afford to tip well. And I do. The whole system is bullshit – just pay people a decent wage, dammit – but it’s the rule of the road here in U.S. America. These people bust their asses to give us a good experience, and I’m grateful for that.

    • Shan

      Same here. I always start at 20% and consider it part of the price of the meal. If the service was so bad as to warrant NOT tipping that much, I’d talk to a manager. But I’ve never had to.

      I have, OTOH, talked to a manager about really exemplary service a few times.

      • Marion in Savannah

        I try to go out of my way to talk to management about exemplary service as often as I can. I love the look on the faces of the folks when I ask “may I speak to your manager?” But I do tell them that it’s only to sing their praises.

      • Eileen Besse

        Same here!

      • Fartknocker

        If the service and food was exceptional I’ll send the restaurant manager an e-mail. Kindness and empathy (along with deneros) should be given to folks who work in restaurants.

    • proudgrampa

      I’ve done the same.

      Problem is, now what should we do? If we tip for service and the damn thing isn’t going to the person we want it to go to?

      • Shan

        Doesn’t tipping in cash solve that?

        • Bobathonic

          I hope so! I try to always tip cash, if for no other reason than the credit card’s fee usually comes out of the overage.

        • marxalot

          Only if your floor manager doesn’t literally shake you down for it.

          • Shan

            So maybe leave it in small bills so they can give the floor manager some and keep the rest?

          • marxalot

            Also please no small change. Quarters are great for laundry, but everything else just ends up in a jar, never to be rolled except in direst emergency.

          • Shan

            Yeah, no, never in a restaurant

            I’ve had to tip the pizza driver with a few quarters before to make up the amount and I apologized profusely. I won’t let my kids order pizza anymore until I make sure they can pony up enough bills for the tip.

      • JMP

        The best way to make sure the server can keep it is to tip with cash; although that would involve having to actually carry cash even though it’s completely outdated.

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          For all that we have some pretty cool money, Canadians are getting out of the habit of using cash since we have had a nation-wide debit card system since 1984. More people use those than use cash, and have since 2001.
          I wonder if anyone’s done a study on how that affects gratuities?

          • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

            No more loonies? Aw, that’s just, well, loonie…

    • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

      It’s so depressing how many times I’ve left a tip or told the server to keep the change and they’ve asked me if I’ve made a mistake. It’s like they expect to be screwed over and if they get a decent tip they think they need to double check so I won’t come back later and demand a refund.

      • Eileen Besse

        I know. It’s sad.

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      I always go 20-30%.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        I usually tip at least 20%, higher if the bill is relatively small. BUT, my absolute pet peeve that will cause me to knock a few percentage points off (and I say this as someone who has waited tables) is when you pay in cash and the server asks, “Do you want change?” The correct statement is, “I will bring you your change,” and allow the customer to say, “No, you keep it.”

        I’m usually extremely polite, but one time, I paid a $50 tab with a $100 bill and the server asked, “Do you want change?” to which I sniped, “Do you think your service was that good?” I felt bad about it, but seriously, that is a rude question and it puts the customer on the spot.

        • Christopher Smith

          The hell you ‘felt bad about it.’ You’ve been trying to dine out on that tacky little story ever since, and you actually think your bitchy response was a dazzling riposte. News flash, pal: if you’re going to virtue-signal all over the Franken thread, you really should recall your sanctimonious posturings to the effect that two wrongs don’t make a right, and finally understand that the server’s rather clueless and grasping question was certainly well exceeded in rudeness by your ugliness.

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            What the fuck is wrong with you, asshole? Oh wait. I answered my own question

    • Meccalopolis

      I try to tip in cash too, some places keep it if it’s on the card

  • Baconzhurtzin’

    Papa John’s and Domino’s charges a “delivery fee” (or at least they did). This started with independent MA & PA pizza joints around 2003. The idea was that since gas prices were so high at the time that the drivers, who paid for their own gas, could be ensured money for a delivery even if they get stuck on a tip

    The chains instituted this because customers expected and quite frankly were willing to pay for it. However, the chains pocketed the money never giving it to the drivers.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      The last time I thought of ordering a pizza the website for the pizza place said the delivery fee was not a substitute for tipping.

      • marxalot

        It isn’t a tip. It is supposed to cover gas; when I worked in a delivery-available sandwich shack, drivers kept track of their milage and deliveries, the “fee” (cash or card receipt) went into an envelope in the till, and at the end of the week they got their milage/gas covered out of the delivery fee bucket.

      • Baconzhurtzin’

        They don’t even give the drivers the fee. But want a fun job for extra cash. Deliver pizzas for a shop you get the best pizzas from. It is fun. And a quick way to pick up $100 cash on a Friday or saturday night.

    • Shan

      They say so on the website now, that the “delivery fee” is NOT the same as a tip for the driver. I always give the driver at least $5 in cash.

      • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

        I give them a Ben Garrison cartoon telling them they are evil for thinking that they deserve minimum wage.

        Because I am an asshole
        –and actually I’ve not have delivery in ages because I live within a restaurant district and only have to walk 2-3 blocks or pick it up when I get off the bus in the evening (four pizza places within two blocks).

        • Shan

          My daughter was appalled one time when I gave the driver $5 on a $10 pizza. “Mom, that’s a 50% tip, you know!”

          • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

            That’s how I weed out dates.

          • Shan

            Anybody who’s rude to service workers is garbage.

        • Meccalopolis

          Jack Chick tracts!

      • Baconzhurtzin’

        *insert “driving” and “pie” pun here*

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    When I was a teacher, I had this one parent who would give me a silk tie or Macy’s gift card at the end of a semester. I accepted, of course. Yet, I was conflicted about being treated like a servant. Why can’t people who work in human services be treated like the professionals (most of them) are? Just pay us what we deserve, why should we have to depend on the kindness of strangers to make a living?

    • JohnBull

      I’d be happy if my students brought their own damn pencils.

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        Don’t. Get me started.

        • JohnBull

          Honestly, I just grab them off the floor and tell my kids not to chew on them. At least the antibacterial soap is donated.

          • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

            I have pictures of my floor I saved to show the district how I was not being supported with enforcement of the discipline ladder outside of my control. They requested I resign. And this was a liberal, urban district run by Democrats.

      • WeaselPoo

        Pens. For me it was pens. So many pens.

        • WeaselPoo

          But I’d get binders for students who were keen but impoverished. And I’d create original consolidated notes for them from other teachers’ handouts that were just shitty photocopies of badly organized textbook pages.

      • Meccalopolis

        I don’t mind buying them but I hate sharpening them. I think some of my kids eat pencils

  • Mary Theresa

    So Trump has a list of Obama accomplishments and is going thru them one at a time destroying them, right?

    • proudgrampa

      Yup.

    • dorquemada

      I’m waiting for him to resurrect Bin Laden.

      • Master Contrail Program

        “I’ll have the Greatest Recession, believe me!”

    • Ricky-pus gutted tub of guts

      Obama used to say “…and God bless America” a lot. When does Trump start repealing those?
      Oh, wait.

  • Boscoe

    Yeah, you KNOW it’s bullshit when Republicans claim to be “really concerned” about “income equality”. Seriously, who do they even think they’re fooling anymore?

    • jesterpunk

      They are concerned though, but their concern is that the “job creators” dont make a larger percentage then the employees.

    • OrG

      They are fooling the fux news cult.

    • TJ Barke

      Idiots. Just like always.

    • Bobathonic

      They hate it when some unequal has an income.

      • Non-Threatening Ron

        We have a winner!

  • chascates

    CNN now reports 10 Democratic Senators plus Tom Perez call on Franken to resign.

    • Bananas Foster

      I hope to hell that he’s out by the end of the day.

      • chascates

        He’ll have to drop out now. Just waiting to hear from Pelosi and Schumer.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      And the GOP PACs are piling on Nancy Pelosi re: Ruben Kihuen, saying Pelosi should resign if she knew about the allegations against him.

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        FFS

        Two words.

        Roy Moore.

      • Bananas Foster

        So the entire Republican party should resign since we all knew about Trump?!

        • Cosmic Owl

          Franken is always going to be the whipping boy of the GOP, now.

      • Marceline

        Which I’m sure the Dems will fall in line for because he haven’t learned a fucking thing about how to deal with our enemy.

        • BigCSouthside

          Yep. Get ready for wayyy more ratfucking

          • Marceline

            We never learn.

      • TootsStansbury

        They can all fuck right off. Glass houses motherfuckers

      • IdRatherBeDancing

        When is Ryan asking fat fuck Blake Farenthold to resign?

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          I do love your sense of humour!

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          Or fat fuck Donald Trump

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          5th of Never, just like always.

    • Cosmic Owl

      It is time.

      • proudgrampa

        Yeah. He’s toast.

    • Meccalopolis

      gosh darn it!

    • Joe Beese

      Alphabetically (7 female, 3 male)

      Baldwin
      Brown
      Casey
      Donnelly
      Gillibrand
      Harris
      Hassan
      Hirono
      McCaskell
      Murray

    • BadKitty904

      I’d love to see 10 Democratic Senators plus Tom Perez accomplish some other things, too.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      He should resign just as soon as President PussyGrabber does.

  • marxalot

    As Pterry pointed out, a working kitchen is, viewed correctly, simply a repository of instruments for horrible murder, combined with the equipment to dispose of any evidence of same. Interesting fact, that.
    Eat the rich.

    • Raan

      Meat pies?

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Angela Lansbury/Mrs. Lovett, is that you?

      • marxalot

        Everything goes down well with beer.

        • BadKitty904

          What a charming notion – eminently practical and yet appropriate, as always…

          • marxalot

            How you done without us all these years you’ll never know?

      • maxneanderthal

        Sweeney Todd libel!

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Just the tip?

    Keep tips just.

  • BadKitty904

    OT: A lunch-time communique from the front – the latest in the War on Max:

    Meet Max, the Cat Who Lost the Library, but Won the Internet
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/11/30/meet-max-the-cat-who-lost-the-library-but-won-the-internet/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.bf8da5b1f487

    • Marion in Savannah

      Here’s hoping he gets used to his harness and leash. He seems like a grand fellow.

      • Ghenghis McCann

        If only Trump had a harness and leash.

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          A muzzle would be helpful as well.

          • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

            A kennel, also too.

    • jesterpunk

      They should make Max the mayor.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stubbs_(cat)

    • doktorzoom

      I liked the observation from the librarian that Max the myth is a much cooler cat than Max the actual cat :)

      • BadKitty904

        Well, I s’pose that is the nature of myths. ;0)

  • Persistent Demme

    This is WAR!!

    These workers don’t take kindly to having their tips messed with.
    It’s going to get ugly.
    (I used to be a server.)

    • BadKitty904

      Good. The more folks who are determined to get rid of these venal bastards, the better.

  • Meccalopolis

    as a former bartender, I’ll break a bottle of Pepe Loco over their heads they try to come at my tips

    • Persistent Demme

      A good friend of mine is Canadian, and just assumed that bartenders got a good wage, so his tips were “meh.”
      I straightened him out.

      • Non-Threatening Ron

        Minimum wage for food service workers Up Here is (or was, I think it might have gone up recently) $9.20/hr, and of course no health care expenses.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      I know a guy who put himself through law school as a bartender. After he passed the bar, he refused to quit his weekend job bartending because of the tips he was making.

  • chascates

    Franken to make announcement tomorrow.

    • Joe Beese

      Oh, just slink away now.

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      So I don’t get it. Lauer had a rape room, Moore diddles kids.

      But Franken get accused by over a photo and a couple of unsubstantiated claims of being the worst of the worst?

      • TootsStansbury

        And let’s not even mention POTUS. I has a confused.

      • BigCSouthside

        And when he resigns, he immediately becomes worse in the eyes of a lot of people because it’s seen as admission of guilt. This is such a fucking stupid move. Take it to the hearing like HE asked. They are going to strap Franken to the Democratic Party all while kiddie fucker Moore and Pussy grabber trump turn the country into a fucking theocracy

        • Meccalopolis

          when he resigns, I better not hear shit from the yahoos who are about to send a child molester to the US Senate

  • Ghenghis McCann

    Trump knows what they’re talking about. Hasn’t he said he won’t be taking his salary as President. He’s just going to work for grift and pass it on to his family

  • h4rr4r

    As a former dishwasher and busboy, I am conflicted here.
    I got paid minimum wage even when I had to fill in for a waiter, but I never got to keep any of the tips.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      I remember those times well when flight attendants would take over aircraft landings from the pilot because reasons in the lavatory.

      • h4rr4r

        Huh?
        You think a busboy can’t refill drinks? Really?
        You think he can’t seat people?

        So I could carry empty plates away but was somehow incapable of carrying full plates the other direction?
        It’s not rocket surgery.

        • kilgoretrout

          It’s not brain science!

    • kilgoretrout

      The waiters used to cut me in on their tips when I was a dishwasher and busboy. They were a great group. I think it depends on the place and the management culture. This was a family place.

      • OrG

        The servers tipped me out when I was a busboy. Not when I was a dishwasher.

        • kilgoretrout

          I was both.

    • Meccalopolis

      you tip your busboys, kitchen is back of house

      • h4rr4r

        Tell that to the people I worked with.

        In smaller restaurants one person might fill multiple roles.

        • Meccalopolis

          fair point. I’m just saying, if my busboy (whatever else he’s doing, prepping, washing dishes, etc) is busting his ass, refilling drinks, turning tables, etc, to make my customers happy, I’m kicking down

  • Joe Beese
  • Oblios_Cap

    Just pay everybody better and post the real prices.

    • OrG

      COMMIE!

  • Persistent Demme

    Good luck with finding someone who will work in these conditions.
    (I will surreptitiously hand my server a big, fat, tip, if I have to.)

    • Eileen Besse

      Already doing that. Always have.

  • mancityRed6

    so if you leave a cash tip but put a zero on the tip line, would this still have to be shared?
    I mean, making sure that the server knew what it was for. would they have to report it?

    • h4rr4r

      They have to report it to the IRS.

      Many don’t. Good luck getting a loan for anything.

      • aureolaborealis

        I thought it was that 15% of each person’s sales were reported as income to the IRS by the employer. Or maybe these ideas aren’t mutually exclusive.

        • h4rr4r

          I think the IRS uses that as a baseline. Not really sure.

    • Eileen Besse

      I’ve always don that, in cash.

    • Tetman Callis

      These days I usually tip that way. I waited tables and tended bar for seven years. Long time ago. Min wage was $2.12.5 (yes, that’s a half-cent there at the end) per hour. It’s basically a suck-ass way for poorly educated people to scrounge a living while working indoors. I like to practice my restaurant socialism now by delivering directly to the worker, bypassing the owner or owner’s lackey.

      Congress goosed the law in the early ’80s, required tipped employees to report a certain percentage of gross receipts of sales as tipped income, whether they made that much or not. That doesn’t fit in here exactly, but I just remembered it.

      Here’s a truth about the business. I don’t know if it’s still the truth now, what with all the newfangled panopticonic methods for monitoring employees, but back in those days, we took everything we could. Whatever money, whatever drink, whatever food. Everyone knew that was how the business worked. If you didn’t do it that way, you were going to go real hungry.

      The government knew that was how it worked, too. Liquid assets. Real liquid. So the state took its cut of gross receipts right off the top, left the masters and servants to sort out the rest.

      If you haven’t had the pleasure, you may not get what a job it is, waiting on people in bars and restaurants. And it’s not all young people “working their way through college.”. And it’s a lot like what happens to farm workers, kitchen staff, public school teachers, college adjuncts, airline flight crew (!), nursing assistants, office assistants — it just goes on and on, people doing crucial work treated like dogs by the profiteers who roll in luxury.

      Sorry, no dick jokes in any of that. We could find some if we tried, I’m sure.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    Serious question. Will this rule affect all tipped employees, not just servers? I’m specifically thinking of dancers at adult clubs. I don’t know how they get paid, but I would think that this would be a terrible rule for them as well.

    • Daniel

      And mohels, whose job would be almost impossible without them.

      • mancityRed6

        oh, but the tips they’d share

      • Msgr_MΩment

        And when you agree to “just the tip”, does that get shared, too?

        And what;s the deal with airplane food?

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      This also brings to mind hotel staff that deliver room service. How would that work.

    • WeaselPoo

      Here’s something. My brother chose to get married at Trinity Church Wall street, where our parents were married in ’49. The pastor said the cost of the service was whatever my brother’s conscience told him it should be.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    Just last night, Mrs. Itt told me about one of her students. 15 years old. Tested at 9 months cognitive level. In a “normal” high school. She does not have the skills to completely deal with that and the district cannot afford to hire enough people to take care of those kids yet, the law obligates public schools to do just that. Only, they don’t generally have enough funds to do that sort of high impact intervention.

    I am not making this up. This is the world we live in.

    • h4rr4r

      9 months?
      So this kid is nonverbal? Unable to walk? I mean a 9 month old can’t do much.

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        Yes. Basically, gestures. But the parents seem like good people and desire the best for their child, as I would do. It’s just that if the parents can’t themselves afford therapy, they rely on schools. Which would be a nifty idea if the schools were actually tasked for that and provided adequate funding but most voters are clueless.

        • h4rr4r

          I think that is not a nifty idea.
          That kid needs to be in a place designed to help them. A high school is not that place. Would you leave a 9 month old child largely unsupervised with high school kids? I would not.

          Abuse is going to happen.

          • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

            I asked with what the student was afflicted with and all Mrs could tell me was that no one could say. And this is not some rural district in the deep South.

            I am so angry with my own experience not to mention my wife’s I just

            had to leave.

    • WeaselPoo

      Wtf? I’ve dealt with 30 year olds scored at 4th Grade competency…but jeebus!

      • CripesAmighty

        Top quintile at any Trump rally.

      • h4rr4r

        You work at the whitehouse?

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        For legal reasons, I can’t post it but I could show you lab reports from one of my students who could talk on a 9th grade level but could not write except in a kind of kindergarten script. When I requested the school and district address the student’s needs, I got crickets. And it’s again, not necessarily their fault, per se. So much of our country has gone underfunded and neglected for years.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        Aren’t we currently dealing with a 71 year old at that level?

    • Non-Threatening Ron

      That is literally insane. What sort of people would think this is a good idea except insane ones?

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        I worked in the administrative belly of the beast. And as best as I could understand, there is an unspoken way things are done. The leadership speaks and we listen and carry out the directives. Only, the directives didn’t really serve the needs of the kids or the teachers but fuck it, the plan looks good and has all the grammar of corporate-speak many school districts have adopted. And again, this is happening in many districts large and small, Republican or Democratic dominated via school board elections.

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          Do you have the same issue we do, where the people who get on to school boards rarely if ever have kids?

    • proudgrampa

      Jeez.

  • BadKitty904

    OT: Thanks, Republicans!!!

    Large Pool of Molten Rock Was Just Found Rising Beneath New England
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/12/05/enormous-pool-of-molten-rock-found-rising-beneath-new-england/#60c69acb273e

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Can we have Trump and his goons reenact the “Pocahontas” holiday by stepping on Plymouth Molten Rock?

  • You should ice that burn

    More reason to do away with tipping altogether, like in other more civilized countries. Pay waiters to do their jobs without counting on voluntary donations, it’s a holdover from slavery anyhow if you ask me.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      As long as you don’t make us tip metric!

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      The only problem with that is that it puts a cap on how much a server can make. I’ve waited tables and if I ever came home with less than $100 in my pocket after a 4 hour shift that included down time for table set up and closing, I was disappointed. And that’s in restaurants that didn’t serve alcohol. I’m pretty sure no restaurant owner is going to pay its servers $28 an hour.

      • DT

        If that’s what they’d have to pay to get servers they would.

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          That’s the whole point. It’s not what they have to pay to get servers. It’s a great bonus for someone who wants to work hard for it. The people around me weren’t making anywhere near the money I made (mostly because they were kind of lazy and would ask me to take a table or two for them)

          • DT

            Well, that sounds pretty Republican of you….

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            Thanks for the gratuitous insult.

      • h4rr4r

        So, this is how every other job works.

        If you want good servers you will pay more.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      The civilized countries are already rolling out UBI systems for when the servant class gets replaced by C-3PO/Johnny Five/etc. But that’s socialism, and we can’t have that here because something something we’d be selling out to Russia.

      Even our bullshit justifications are stuck in the ’50s. Not just our labor model.

      • chortlingdingo

        But, but I thought Russia was our friend now?

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    I’m confused. Will one of you kind souls help me get unconfused? So if I understand this correctly, the waitstaff will have to submit tips to their employer at the end of their shift (if they received it in cash) and the boss will pool all and redistribute to the staff. But, if the boss feels the employees are making min wage, the boss will just keep the tips. Is that correct?

    • TJ Barke

      Essentially

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        Okay, thanks. So then, if the employer is keeping the tips, then basically patrons are essentially just paying more for their meals. Because now people tip for the good service they receive from that specific server. But if the money goes to the restaurant, then we’re just basically paying extra for frequenting the restaurant. Basically, as is the case with all Rethugs do, everyone is getting screwed.

        • Dg Hacket

          So the only thing for a server to do is just be as rude as possible without getting fired.

          ” they can only make you work just hard enough not to get fired”

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Think of it as freeing up the Invisible Hand of the Marketplace to masturbate in front of the help. Into potted plants.

    • h4rr4r

      Not feels, actually are.

      Other than that he could basically do whatever he wants with the money.

  • Michael R

    Flashback Sean Spicer lying , Merry Christmas RUSSIA !!!

    https://youtu.be/PbcZDHnwlLk

    • Lord Jim

      Spasiba, tovarisch.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Hm. Economic micromanagement of small businesses?

    Oh yeah, that’s Republican to the core, right??!! Couldn’t be that they’re just trying to funnel money upwards to business owners, and willing to compromise their own ‘principles’ for it! That’s UNPOSSIBLE!

    God damn fucking hypocrites.

  • miss_grundy

    Most restaurants that I go to are mom-and-pop types in which gratuity is not mandatory unless the wait staff have to deal with a large party, so why should kitchen help who are probably earning minimum wage take money away from wait staff, who are being paid a lower hourly wage. This doesn’t make any sense and will just create more problems for everyone. Mr. Mueller can’t work fast enough to clear these people out.

  • MynameisBlarney

    I guess they never heard the saying “Always be nice to people that handle your food.”.

  • Joe Beese
    • BigCSouthside

      The real world: it doesn’t fucking matter.

    • akryan

      I thought he had sort of weathered the storm. were there new allegations that came out that were different than the initial ones? Dems love to eat their own though, so this doesn’t surprise me.

  • Non-Threatening Ron

    So, how do I go about establishing a ‘Krusty Krab’ chain in your country?
    – Eugene Krabs https://20somethinginspiration.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/mr-krabs-conspiracy-theory.jpg?w=1695&h=1200&crop=1

  • Resistor Radio

    I promised myself I wouldn’t comment online when I’m drunk, so [redacted].

  • rosenbomb

    Reminds me of prostitutes handing over their hard-earned cash to a pimp, only to be handed a small cut back.

    Super glad this administration is focusing on important social issues, like servers getting tips and graduate students getting stipends. UGH.

    • Resistor Radio

      We’re in hell, and it’s all terrible.

  • Bill D. Burger

    ot..but..Across the board now: “Al Franken’s office says he will have a major announcement to make tomorrow.”

    Sounds like it’s over.

    • Resistor Radio

      FUCK.
      so they win again?

    • MynameisBlarney

      There’s still a part of me that wants to believe this is a smear campaign against Franken.

      • Bill D. Burger

        And one of the things that galls me unendingly is that, on the other side of the aisel, the Republicans are ready to welcome a depraved pedophile to their cult and simply state that they are ‘concerned’ and carry on.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Their finish line is SCOTUS appointments.
          Why give a shit about children when you have the entire nation to fuck over?

      • TJ Barke

        It is. It’s just that there’s a degree of validity to it.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        I want to believe that too, but it seems unlikely. What’s slightly likelier is that some of these complaints are real, and others are from lying ideologues and/or bribe recipients. But that’s only slightly likelier at best, and possibly less likely; any liar could get caught out having met with some operative. A lotta risk.

        Sigh.

        • Dept. of Space Tacos

          thank you for this – i’ve had no idea what to think about it this morning, but I feel the way you do.

      • Resistor Radio

        I don’t care if it makes me sound like a hypocritical asshole, I do believe that. I do.

    • h4rr4r

      Maybe he can be replaced with a child molester!

  • rocktonsam

    With all that extra cash the “back of the house” employees can finally get off the welfairz. Time for some bootstrap pulling.

    • Resistor Radio

      If back of the house is gonna get that sweet tip money, who will sell us all the cocaine now?

  • MynameisBlarney

    Repubs.
    Only really ever against “Big Govt” when Democrats are in office.

    • OrG

      They don’t give a fuck about the SIZE of government. Only who it works for.

      • TJ Barke

        Ding ding ding.

  • WatchHill

    I wait tables. If I start making less.. I will finally be forced to use my bachelor’s degree. Which sucks because I like people, food, serving people food… and tips!!! I like my tips! I like my life in my apartment with my Chrysler minivan which my job allows me to afford. Don’t fuck with my life Trump.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      He only sees ‘Us’ and ‘Serfs’.

      • Non-Threatening Ron

        Now don’t make fun. He sees THREE categories of people: ‘Me,’ ‘People who I want to like me,’ and THEN ‘Serfs.’

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      “I wait tables. If I start making less.. I will finally be forced to use my bachelor’s degree.”

      Wait, I’m confused. You mean menial service jobs aren’t what bachelor’s degrees are used for? Well, besides recyclable toilet paper…

      • WatchHill

        I’m the best waitress I know. You would be blessed to have me take your order.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          Oh, I’m not saying you’re not. I’m just saying that waitstaff are treated like shit, and that for some reason the American labor market lied about college education being a path out of jobs where you get treated like shit but then funnels college degree recipients into jobs where they treat you like shit. The solution would be to not treat anyone like shit, and not to lie about the value of a college education, but both of those things sound like socialism and therefore make the American baby Jesus have a sad.

      • h4rr4r

        Mine seems to suit me fine.
        It is almost like it matter what kind and from where.

        Lots of college degrees are tons of fun to earn, but have limited economic value in the current market.

  • Ellie

    My comment was polite, but terse. Will those comments do any good?

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I wish I could say something optimistic here.

      • Resistor Radio

        Optimism is for fools and people who aren’t paying attention

        • Lance Thrustwell

          I think what you’re saying is for the best, and will lead to good outcomes!

    • Joe Beese

      To paraphrase the old saying: If commenting could do any good, they wouldn’t permit it.

      • Resistor Radio

        FACT

    • Resistor Radio

      Only if you’re a deplorable. That 30% is the only voice that matters.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        A turd of the country…

  • SayItWithWookies

    I’m going to be bemused all fuckin’ day that a corporate flak has an issue with a two-to-one pay disparity. You think that should be the limit, boss?

  • Bitter Scribe

    But look on the bright side: Servers will be allowed to keep every one of those Bible tracts that some Christian diners hand out in lieu of tips.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      They can burn them to keep warm .

      • IdiokraticKulturKommissar

        …with flaming votes.

    • Resistor Radio

      Not to mention all the free sexual harassment that about 15% of customers dish out as par for the course.

  • Joe Beese

    Dead Breitbart reports:

    Why Trump Has Good Reason to Worry About a Mueller Probe of Deutsche Bank

    Spoiler: Poor Trump may end up getting smeared by DB’s longstanding culture of corruption.

    • Non-Threatening Ron

      ‘Culture of corruption’? Why do you think I did my banking there?
      – DJT

    • dorquemada

      Isn’t that the reason he went to DB?

    • OrG

      Which bank doesn’t have a “culture of corruption”?

  • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

    Ultimately, they’re going to be receiving zero wages once the restaurants switch to robo-chefs and robo-servers. Fucking NOBODY in this time-warped country has even brought up automation even once! The only way to have enough money for a UBI once nobody has a salary to tax is to tax the owners of the means of production — the companies that build the robots, and the companies that purchase (or rent, license, whatever) the robots from Amazon/Google/Apple/whatever.

    Canada already fucking did this in 1977 when old man Pierre was a pretty forward-thinking PM for his advanced age, and his once and future prince was just a kindergarten-aged Jedi. Now the boy geek has grown into a man, and is funding a similar program in Ontario and a few other provinces. Finland is doing this. Germany is doing this. Japan (of course) is doing this. Even the old humbugs in stingy, Dickensian Britain are rolling out programs here and there in preparation for the coming robo-job-pocalypse!

    But not America, nosiree Don! We’re building a bridge to the 19th century with CLEAN COAL in everyone’s Christmas stocking, and wage theft from human employees who don’t have much to begin with and won’t have anything once business gets ahead of the old white Luddites in Congress who are bigly losers with the cyber and believe the Internet is a series of tubes. Why should they care, eh? They’ve got theirs, screw you! (Or they’ll just hire a robot to shoot you if you try to organize against Clean Coal Skynet.)

  • azeyote

    i worked the waiter bartender thing in florida quite a few years ago, and with the right to work law, i was paid 2.09 an hour plus tips – sharing my tips would have been the end – i don’t know what that pay is now but i’m sure it sucks –

    • Oblios_Cap

      $2.13, I think..

  • fawkedifiknow

    I will not patronize a restaurant that skims the tip to pay anyone other than employees. Workers should publish a list.

  • Lefty Wright

    If it passes, customers should refuse to eat at restaurants without a published tip policy, and if it includes any tip sharing, especially if management keeps any of it, don’t go there. Most restaurants work on tight margins so even a small loss of customer base can sink them.

    • jesterpunk

      IIRC when McDonalds and Papa John’s and other restaurants where complaining about the minimum wage increasing it would have worked out to a 25 cent increase in costs to pay people better.

      • Rags

        I was in a deal to make a Burger King with entirely compostable waste. Died because of the nickel it would add to a meal.

  • susan_g

    I bet cheeto will be eating a lot of spit with his served meals.

    • Oblios_Cap

      I imagine he already does.

      • Bobathonic

        I want to believe!

    • Andre

      I’m going to bet that every glass in the Whitehouse has also had the tip of at least one penis swabbed across the rim, also too.

      • Shan

        That’s…people DO that?

        • dorquemada

          Pretty standard in my military days.

          • Shan

            Huh. I suppose if I had a penis I would think of all kinds of odd things to do with it as well.

            Probably first I would try the helicopter trick.

          • Daniel

            f you think what they do with their penises in the US Navy is odd, you should see what they do with theirs in the Swiss Army.

          • Shan

            …um, I probably don’t need to know.

          • Daniel

            The higher ranks use theirs to clean out horses hooves and sometimes even magnify things.

          • JustDon’tSayProbably

            The corkscrew one seems like a bad idea to me.

          • Bobathonic

            Spoiler: you cannot get off the ground that way.

          • JustDon’tSayProbably

            Spoiler: you cannot get off the ground that way.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            I would bet real cash money that, previous to YouTube, you couldn’t imagine what some penis owners have done.

          • SomeBigRedDog

            I would pee standing up. Like, everywhere.

          • Shan

            That’s how it usually works. It goes everywhere.

        • Andre

          When I was in A school in the Navy, you NEVER, and I mean NEVER left your coffee cup unattended, as that thing would get “rimmed” in the blink of an eye.

          • Arolpin

            Having your cup dick-rimmed is nasty, but if you really dislike someone, a couple drops of hydraulic fluid in their cup will have them in the head all day.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          My mother told me that when she worked in a hotel, the assistant manager demanded a steak, although it wasn’t on the menu for the paying guests. The chef produced a steak, and in front of all the staff, wiped it across the floor, turned it over and wiped the other side across the floor and cooked it. That pretty summed up how loved the assistant manager was.

          • Shan

            So she probably LOVES the movie Waiting!

    • Ghenghis McCann

      ‘We have Spit, or Spit with a dash of Spit, or our famous ‘The entire kitchen staff have Spit in it.’

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        “Have you got anything without Spit, or at least, less Spit?”….

        • Arolpin

          We’ve got the spit, spit, spit, spit, and spunk surprise. We can change it to the spunk, spit, spunk, spit, and spunk surprise if you like.

  • Joe Beese
    • Resistor Radio

      I’ll wait until the radiation cloud wafts my way.

      • ariel_gee_398

        I put out some marshmallows to toast.

        • Non-Threatening Ron

          The green glow counterpoints the golden colour quite nicely.

        • Resistor Radio

          I bought a week’s worth of beer yesterday but moved through it quicker than I thought…time to run to the liquor store before the apocalyptic looting begins.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          Darn, I was hoping the dotard’s chestnuts would be roasting on an open fire by now. (…yeah, yeah, with impeachment votes…)

    • Oblios_Cap

      No thanks. I’m having lunch.

    • I’ve seen those golden colored ball christmas ornaments being used as a back drop behind the dais.

      Oh yeah, they’re gold man sacks.

  • alpacapunchbowl

    Of course Charlie Trotter was a tip thief. Guy was a fucking prick.

  • Resistor Radio

    Servers and bartenders put up with more bullshit than most people can even imagine.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      And teachers.

      • Resistor Radio

        Okay, but teachers don’t usually have to deal with drunk people as part of their job description.

        • Christopher Story

          Have you seen a Trump supporter? Lots of them have kids. But I see your point.

          • Resistor Radio

            Yeah. My last bartending gig was at a bar patronized by 95% trump supporters. I’m talking trump supporters beginning with the escalator descent, and it was fucking disgusting. These guys hate women, and only talk about it more after you pour a few beers in them.

          • Toomush_Inferesistance

            Pics or GTFO!…

          • Resistor Radio

            You don’t have to tell me. I’m rural red state, every person I meet would gleefully douse me in gasoline and light a match while calling me a whore and filming it for 4chan.

        • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

          I have had students drunk, high and sober. It’s part of the job description they don’t tell you about.

          • h4rr4r

            It is called high school for a reason.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          You’ve never been at the receiving end of a parent-teacher conference, I see.

          • Resistor Radio

            No, I’ve just had trump supporters filming me while i bent over to wash dishes and going on about skanks and sluts while I’m trying to serve food/drinks.

          • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

            UGH! That is disgusting! I wish we weren’t such a “precariat” society because that sort of thing just begs for hot coffee to be “spilled” in their laps.

          • Resistor Radio

            quickest way to lose your job. I refused to serve someone who was sitting at the bar going on loudly about me being a whore who loved to “gobble cock” (complete with hand motions), and my boss gave him a gift certificate to apologize for my not serving him.

          • Shan

            What an asshole!

          • Resistor Radio

            agreed

          • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

            Students now film teachers.

            In all kinds of ways.

            That’s why I just want to go back to bed.

          • Resistor Radio

            oh jesus, I didn’t even think of that. fuck. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
            I’m a ragey radio today. Black and tans for breakfast and whatnot.

          • Lance Thrustwell

            Guys who freely describe women as ‘skanks’ or ‘sluts’ are either pretty skanky and slutty themselves… or more often, are really just wannabe male skanks/sluts because they can’t get laid very often, period.

          • h4rr4r

            What kind of man complains about sluts?

            This makes no sense, sluts are great.

          • Meccalopolis

            oh god, I wish you could have told them how you really feel

        • h4rr4r

          I bet my highschool teachers would disagree.

    • Skaarphy

      I worked in the service industry for a few years and I agree. The only people I can imagine who have to deal with more bullshit on a daily basis are cops.

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    Y’know, I’m thinking we could be a much poorer nation and still richer than we are now. We don’t really need all these big corporations and owners as much as we pretend we do. We (us) could be investing in solar, wind, transportation systems that don’t destroy roads or fuck up the environment, agriculture that rewards good stewardship, cities that provide architecturally superior housing at reasonable costs for everybody. This isn’t communism or even necessarily socialism. It just depends on us investing in stuff that makes sense rather than this bullshit…

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      Who’s “we”? Anything that benefits humanity and doesn’t award 100% of everything to shareholders is “socialism,” Katie…

      • Christopher Story

        Solution! Eat the shareholder’s first.

  • Christopher Story

    We’re all just fodder for the corporate machinery; when we’re not fodder for their cannons. Because humanity is a renewable resource.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Best paraphrase of the Internationale I’ve seen in years.

    • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

      It will be if the GOP has their way with Roe v. Wade.

      • Resistor Radio

        I don’t know how it will happen, but I suspect it will begin with fetal open-carry.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          ‘What you doin’ in this here womb? You sayin’ you’re ma twin. Prove it.’
          And then the murders began…. (If you believe that life begins at conception..)

      • Tetman Callis

        if they wanna get all them white people fuckin again, they’ll need to get them off the oxy.

  • bluicebank

    Here’s another story that slipped through the cracks because Trump sucks all the molecular hydrogen out of the universe:

    “A Few Things Any Quentin Tarantino Star Trek Movie Is Gonna Need”
    https://www.wired.com/story/quentin-tarantino-star-trek/
    “… Quentin Tarantino has reportedly successfully pitched a new Star Trek movie that J.J. Abrams might produce …”

    Just no. In normal times, there’d be rioting. Except in France. They would think we should have plasma rifles for this job.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste
    • Christopher Story

      I hate JJ Abrams with the burning fury of 10,000 suns for his “contributions” to the Star Trek and Star Wars universes. How is someone so unoriginal and uninspired so influential in an industry built on dreams and imagination? The rich ruin everything.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Lens flares?

      • h4rr4r

        The latest Trek movies aren’t even Trek. They are just action films in space.

        • MynameisBlarney

          The moment when Abrams admitted not being a Trek fan I was like, well, these are gonna suck bawlz.
          And they did.

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          “AND THEY HAVE TOO MUCH DUHVERSHITTY!!!!1111!”

          -Idiot Trump hivemind who doesn’t fucking understand Star Trek (disclaimer: incorrectly assumes mind previously in evidence)

      • bluicebank

        Kinda thinking that Tarantino is more a threat to Trek than Abrams.

        • h4rr4r

          Unpossible.
          The new Trek films are Action Movies in Space. At least Tarantino might make them mildly interesting.

          • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

            “How do you say ‘Big Mac’ in Klingon?”

          • Arolpin

            Jdklfdjs ahiklakkkalls! I think.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Jesus.

      I wonder how many times the “N” word will be used.
      It IS a Tarantino movie after all.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      This reminds me of reading in Leonard Nimoy’s autobiography about when they were making Star Trek IV and Eddie Murphy (who was at the peak of his career and was also a big Trek fan) was being floated as being a part of the movie to bring in a bigger audience. Jeffrey Katzenberg called it “either the best or worst idea in the world”, because if it worked they’d make a mint. But if it failed they’d destroy both franchises.

    • doktorzoom

      I’d rather see Kevin Smith direct a Star Wars movie about unappreciated Stormtroopers just avoiding work, smoking weed, and farting around on the lowest (most inner?) decks of the Death Star.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        LOL. In all honesty though, I’d rather see Patty Jenkins do a Star Wars movie about Rey leading a band of girl Jedi, the Order of Organa or something like that. If only to piss off the frothing morons of Reddit and the like who I have had it up to here with, who lost their shit about Ghostbusters and went “reeeeeeee, eh” when Trudeau sent out a very nice memorial tweet in Carrie Fisher’s honor. There’s like almost no girls in the franchise except her, Leia, Anakin’s mom Shmi, and Padmé Amidala. I could be missing some, but I think that’s it. I don’t even remember any girl Ewoks. Trek had a WoC in Uhura right from the start. But Star Wars certainly never had a Linda Calrissian.

      • Rags

        “Redshirtkrantz and Goldentop are Dead.”

    • chortlingdingo

      Noooo, I can’t stand Quentin Tarantino. He’s so overrated.

  • MynameisBlarney

    OT, but…

    She is just SO FUCKING NICE, ISN’T SHE?

    https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/jeanine-pirro-james-comey-political-whore

    • Bill D. Burger

      Comey a ‘political whore’? ___ Says a FOXbot uber media whore and criminal enabler like Pirro? That’s rich.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Hooer projection.

    • TJ Barke

      And she’s a common criminal, so who cares what she says?

    • Shibusa

      Joy Behar is “unAmerican” for saying Trump’s going to jail but Trump’s conspiring with Russia to win a US election is … patriotism?

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        No, (((Joy Behar))) is “un-American” in Trump’s America version 14.88 because reasons…

  • Bill D. Burger

    Trump is now giving his message of Peace & Love to the Holy Lands___and ending any possibility the United States ever had of being a broker of any peace deals, or just about any deals in the ME.

    Merry Christmas from the Trumpensteins’

    http://31.media.tumblr.com/96fd01ab664790fb9cac3e4f03d5a800/tumblr_n1zetmyrnf1sf7gcao2_500.gif

    • BadKitty904
    • rocktonsam

      Sounds like he’s reading this from Wikipedia.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        I don’t know about that. Even their “Simple English” version is too complicated for him. Needz moar emoji and coloring pages.

    • Moebym of the Returners

      War is Peace.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      I’m sure this will be blamed on the Mooslims and not on the Pussy Grabber

    • Lefty Wright

      Yeah, just in time for all those Christians visiting Jerusalem and other nearby sites for Christmas.

    • Daniel

      He has said that he doesn’t know why previous presidents haven’t done what he’s doing, though he hazarded a guess it was due to their lack of courage.

      It is, of course, only a lack of courage that could explain why they wouldn’t have put people in a different country that were not US citizens in danger of death. Trump is, fortunately, courageous enough to do this.

      • Weird Fishes

        God Bless Him for being brave enough to do the Lord’s work. We are the chosen People111!!!1!!!!

        • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

          Fuck him and fuck Adolf Netanyahu. Another hypocritical POS who’s looking to start a war to save his useless ass from corruption charges.

          • Weird Fishes

            (I was being satyrical, I hope that came through…if not I point you to the entirety of my commentary on Disqus)

          • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

            Oh, I believe it. I’m just fed up with Trump and with that chosen-people bullshit. It’s religious ethno-nationalism, pure and simple. Blood and soil and manifest-destiny lebensraum, no matter what way you look at it or how taboo it might be to point it out for obvious reasons. Prior abuse does not excuse future abuse. The Likudnik fascists and their useful-idiot Dominionists in the USA basically strip actual Jewish critics of Israel and of Zionist ethno-nationalism in and of itself of their “Jewish card.” Who the fuck appointed Bibi as the pope of all Judaism is beyond me. He is actually considered “the leader of the Jewish people.” Fucker thinks he’s King Solomon. You’re either with them or you’re a Nazi even though his own son sent out hooknose shit about Soros all over the Internet and is a hero to, of all people, Daily Stormer. If Anne Frank could see what’s being done to the Palestinian people in her name, or that Mossad goons were hired by Weinstein to harass and spy on his victims, she would weep.

  • jesterpunk

    Between this and company policy and our culture of not discussing what you’re being paid it works out well for the owners. It makes it easy to screw everyone and we go along with it.

    • dorquemada

      It’s also illegal to prevent employees to discuss their compensation with each other.

    • chortlingdingo

      It is pretty weird that we don’t talk about our pay. It’s probably because if we all knew what everyone was getting, we’d realize how underpaid most of us are.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        It’s considered impolite and tacky. Kind of like the old “don’t talk about religion, sex or politics in mixed company”. I don’t think there’s a hard and fast “rule,” per se; more of a social custom. Certain things are meant to be kept “private” and “behind closed doors.” At least that’s my understanding of it. I think everyone knows, in the abstract, that they’re getting screwed, but just accept it as “the way things are”; i.e., “everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it” — because you can’t. I mean, theoretically you could, but you’d get red-baited and accused of being ungrateful and a troublemaker.

        People say Canadians are unassuming, and Britain is immutably stratified and suffers quietly with a stiff upper lip. Americans, for all their image of rebellious rabble-rousers, are downright whipped dogs when it comes to challenging the established hierarchy. I guess it’s kind of like that whole “don’t say I’m a feminist or I’ll never get a boyfriend” — “don’t tell the boss I’m unhappy with my pay, or I’ll never get a job again because people will think I’m a socialist.”

        I confess, though. I’d probably be one of the last people to discuss my paycheck with anyone. Probably because I really don’t have the emotional stamina or extroverted personality to be a Norma Rae type. They could pay me a dollar an hour and grab my tits all the live-long day and I’d just be a happy employee who sucks it up to keep my job. There’s nothing worse in terms of social stigma in American culture than to be unemployed.

        • WIDTAP

          It’s a US/Western thing. In Asian cultures, its the first question they usually ask about your job.

      • LucindathePook

        My mom was a payroll clerk, for a time at a radio station. She always said that if everyone knew everyone else’s salary, there would be armed insurrection in this country.

  • John Iwaniszek

    This is an easy one. Ask your server how the tips are handled. If the rat-bastard boss grabs them, then don’t tip.

    • h4rr4r

      They would never be pressured to lie or risk firing for not hitting tip targets.

    • Rags

      Tip in cash even if you pay your bill with a card. Empower your server!

  • Daniel Hooper

    As the self appointed wolf demigoddess of retail employees, I feel a close kinship with restaurant servers. Other than potential income being almost entirely dependent on the people you serve, we have much in common. Needless to say, I think this idea of top sharing is garbage. Unless a restaurant has a stated tip policy that supports their servers if this passes, I simply won’t eat out anymore.
    Also, to all of you; unless the server is genuinely crap, tip 20% minimum.

    • Me not sure

      Amen.

  • fawkedifiknow

    Out of all the choices one could make, isn’t it a strange coincidence that Trump chose to try to make a buck or two selling cheapass vodka?

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Whisky (or Whiskey) needs to spend several years maturing in barrels, unlike gin or vodka. Which is the way to the quickest buck?.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Plus if you run rotgut through a Brita filter and handful of times, plenty of suckers won’t be able to tell it’s rotgut.

    • Me not sure

      Never by vodka made by a non-drinker.

    • Donna Mueller

      that was when he had a connection to the russian mafia that was shipping illegal alcohol to the U.S. in N.Y. they disguised it as anti-freeze in 55 gal. barrels. GOOD STUFF!!! it’s the same $hit as the money-they have been using DRUMPF and his IDIOT family to legitimize their money and booze in this country for years. DONNIE DRUMPF- SAD WITTLE LAUNDRY BOY FOR A RUSSIAN ASSWIPE!!!!

    • P’jama Pahnts

      I could see if it was something he was passionate about but he doesn’t even drink the stuff. What a douche.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Regarding the Franken allegations…

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029933534

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      I didn’t realize this latest one was anonymous. Yeah, they’re going to use this to just destroy careers, which will also have the effect of destroying the credibility of accusers.

      • ariel_gee_398

        The thing giving me pause is that if this were all bullshit, wouldn’t Franken be able to talk to his colleagues in private and assure them of that?

        • Latverian Diplomat

          Have you met the Democrats? Remember Sherry Sherrod?

          • ariel_gee_398

            You make a valid point. And he denied this last allegation.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          It’s a fucking mess.

      • 🍁 Girl Guide Salute 🖖🏻

        Almost like that’s by design to keep the patriarchal status quo intact and prevent victims from speaking out.

        • Shelli Kae

          True
          Men like Moore don’t just one day up and decide to quit molesting girls. No doubt there are more young ladies Moore molested that didn’t come out before because of his power and sure as hell will never come out now seeing the reactions toward the other women.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Anonymous and in politico…makes me nervous. But it’s not the only account.

    • akryan

      yeah I sure am glad that we’re running out Franklin over his minor offenses on the eve of the Republicans electing a child molester. Good use of time. I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.

      • Donna Mueller

        fkkkkknnnA’ FRANKEN STAYS-FU TRUMPSTERS-

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Fuck these evil fuckers.

  • DT

    Why did you guys change the headline?

    • doktorzoom

      Rebecca decided the second one was better. At some point, we may get a web platform that allows A/B testing of headlines, so both might run on the same day and we’d find out which got more hits, and fine-tune our wit to statistical perfection.

      That, or every hed will just read “Look! Cute Puppies!”

      • DT

        I do get that it may have been more wordy, but I was definitely in camp A.
        In other news, I can pay you guys int the New Year! Tentative yayyyy!

        • doktorzoom

          Tentative thank you!!

      • phoenix00

        For the record, I am ok with copious “Look! Cute Puppies!” all up in here.

  • Zach Williams

    Trump hates hard workers.
    In other news, space is cold and people need air to live.

  • aureolaborealis

    I assume this logic will be extended to CEOs and fund managers and real estate moguls, etc., etc. … all commissions and bonuses pooled and distributed evenly among all employees?

  • SEIU should use this to unionize restaurant workers.

    • Arolpin

      SEIU should probably focus more on making sure they have the incompetent graft-artists out of their executive suite. During Bush II they did some seriously stupid things that fucked over a LOT of their most active/activist locals, pushed out their top organizers, and then sued the organizers for starting a competing union. Most of the people involved have since been convicted of skimming money, but there are still a few left, and until they get rid of them, it’s hard advocate for SEUI.
      Prior to all this, they were great, and then did a TON of work in getting home health aides unionized, and getting safe staffing levels for nurses enshrined in CA state law, and doing get-out-the-vote work. I hope they get back to that soon.

  • IdiotsforPalin
    • Culinary Mercenary

      Lazer like precision. Good doggy!

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      Where’s Great Dane when you need one?

  • willi0000000

    “You see the people in the front of the house executive suite making twice hundreds of times what the people in the back of the house
    real jobs are making,” he said. “It’s a real disparity.”

    • SkinlessGenderlessMan

      Thanks for fixing that!

  • P’jama Pahnts

    My advice to Mr. Trump. Don’t eat in restaurants anymore. It’s just a bad idea to piss off people that handle your food.

    • KenTFM

      Amen! This is one of the reasons why for 26 years I have treated my wife like a lady.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      I hear Lil’Donnie likes to be pissed off … wait no, that was pissed on.

  • Walter Wellstone

    “The Trump administration’s obsession with overturning every last vestige of the Obama presidency continues apace …”

    He wishes. President Obama is now more popular than ever and that’s what gets under Donald’s skin more than anything in this world.

    • miss_grundy

      Bamz’ Twitter feed was the top feed this year even though Tangerini tweets like crazy. I hope Bamz continues to rise in popularity and is invited to Harry and Meghan’s wedding and that Tangerini and Melon’s invitation is “lost in the mail.” It serves him right for being the consummate asshole.

    • Cornelius Fussbudget

      Yeah, what Trump doesn’t understand (I know, you must have fainted at the idea that Trump doesn’t understand something) is that the hard part of fixing these things is identifying the problem(s). Just undoing the fixes doesn’t cause people to forget the problems. We can just re-fix them again later. The only thing Trump is accomplishing is a few years of pain, suffering and death. Horrifying, yes, but also utterly pointless.

      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        The good thing is that Lil’Donnie’s impotence at getting anything trough congress means that he has to do everything with Eos, so in 2020, President Franken can simply undo them with EOs even if the Democrats don’t control both houses and if they do, then undo them with legislation and the republicans will have to take back all 3 houses to change that.

        • Cornelius Fussbudget

          I’m hoping he (or she!) can just issue a single EO “undo all of Chump’s EO’s” on the first day so he (or she!) can get busy with real work. He (or she!) won’t need weekly diversions in the same way that Chump does, to distract from his criminal activities and the consequent hailstorm of shoes dropping every day.

  • Relativicus

    I’m just picturing the countless diners, bars, and restaurants across the nation that leave FOX News on the tv all day long. And I want to laugh at the employees who yesterday, today, and tomorrow believe Trump stands with them, but there’s all those others who know better, and they’re a buzzkill.

  • Charles Insandiego

    I always tip in cash on the table. Makes it harder for the mangers to steal it.

    • Housewives fan7404

      But not for the bus staff. The safest way to insure your server is getting the tip you intend is to hand it to them.

    • phoenix00

      Unless tips are pooled, or you go to a coffee shop or counter-serve where they simply leave a tip jar.

  • Resistance Ftr PuckStopsHere

    Want to put an end to this shit? The answer is Union. The answer has always been Union.

    • KenTFM

      The other answer is flip BOTH the House and the Senate in 2018 and get to work on 2020 NOW!!

    • blaid droog

      Unions do create jobs, for the union busting thugs.

  • WIDTAP

    Look, haven’t the restaurant employers done enough by fudging the staff’s I-9 forms? Why punish the employer by taking their hard earned tip money 20% service fee? You keep this up, and there just might be a visit from ICE – just saying.

  • SadDemInTex

    This sounds cruel but unless I know the person I’m tipping is getting the tip I’m not going to tip.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      I always tip 20% regardless of service or any other consideration because tipping is stupid and should be illegal, but until it is, people need those tips to make a decent living.

      • SadDemInTex

        But what if the owner of a taking all the money? I just want to scream.

        • Latverian Diplomat

          I understand the frustration. But even if the owner takes some of it, the employees need what they get even more.

          If the owner takes most or all of it, I’d have to be near 100% sure that was happening to affect my tip, and if I was that sure, I just wouldn’t go there.

          • SadDemInTex

            You are right

      • Serolf Divad

        Yeah. I’m not rich by any means, but I have waaay too comfortable a job with waaay to generous a salary to stiff a guy or gal working for sub minimum wage + tips. 20% for me, unless it’s a buffet where I still generally give between 10 and 15%.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      You can always discover the $$$ that the waitstaff dropped when serving you and simply return it to them. That’s not a tip and the owner can make no claim to it.

  • Ryan Denniston

    Isnt this socialism? How are waiters incentivized wjen all the moochers get a cut of the tips?

    • phoenix00

      “Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.” – some free-market manual somewhere.

  • Business must be really off at Mar-A-Lago if Donny has to take a cut of the pool.

    • phoenix00

      Putin does have rather onerous interest terms.

    • Serolf Divad

      Er… I’m pretty sure that business could be booming at Mar-A-Lago and Donny would still take a cut of the tip pool if he found out he could legally do so. The guy doesn’t discriminate when it comes to being a scumbag.

  • Mystery_Poster

    OK, here’s what I said. Sorry Wonkette, I did a tiny bit of plagiarizing.

    Please reconsider overhauling the tip regulations rule. Currently, tips are awarded to waitstaff based on the quality of service provided. Even with tips, the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts the average server’s salary of $9.61 an hour. This change would allow restaurants to cut that even further to the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. This is well below the living wage of $12.01 an hour for one person where I live.

    If this change goes into effect, it will become legal for restaurant owners to simply pocket the tips of hardworking waitstaff as long as the minimum wage is met. If you legalize theft of tips, you’ll soon have an industry where waitstaff will be told they’re getting paid plenty, the law says the management can pocket the tips, and if the servers don’t like it there’s always somebody willing to work the same job for less pay.

    I always tip my waitstaff well for good service. I do so because I know how hard it is to wait tables and I want the server to continue to provide me with excellent service at places I frequent. If this goes into effect, I would seriously re-think how much I leave my server if I thought it was just going to go into the pocket of the owner.

    • Elizabeth Hillcrest

      Ha, when I commented on the legislation, I also lightly plagiarized this article!

  • CafeenMan

    Any time a service member gets stationed someplace “different” there is a class on the culture to help prevent us from being complete boneheads in foreign countries.

    When I got to Germany they told us that you don’t tip in restaurants because the tips are built into the prices. I’m not sure if it’s really a tip or if that just made it easy to explain to us. I thought it was probably they just got paid real wages and the meal costs covered it.

  • Henri

    Don’t the IRS regulations go after the jobs that are expected to be tipped and not the back of the house ones, for a calculation of % of bill the expected tip would be to count it as a wage then tax it? So unless they fix the tax code the wait staff is getting screwed twice over with one regulation change.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Exactly. Back of the house either earns a salary or is paid by the hour. They are not taxed on tips they’re expected to earn.

      For waitstaff, the IRS considers both payroll tips (tips you get on credit cards that the restaurant pays out in your paycheck) and cash tips to be wages, which they tax you on. It’s not uncommon for waitstaff to get paychecks of a couple of bucks after all the deductions are taken, or even $0 paychecks, which can result in next week’s paycheck being docked for FICA you didn’t make enough to cover this week.

      Theoretically, the house is supposed to make up the difference between tipped employee minimum wage and regular minimum wage if your tips don’t cover it, but in all the years I worked in restaurants, I’ve never seen a restaurant actually do that. Ever.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    Always tip in cash.

    • phoenix00

      Doesn’t that make the tip jar even easier to steal?

  • Moar Wordz

    It won’t come to pass.
    Yes, I was a cook and got paid on average $ 12.50 per hour
    ( BEFORE TAXES Y’ALL ) for my blood, sweat, and tears while servers loitered around snitching,begging, or stealing food when they could get away with it, having no sidework anymore since hiring ” runners ” became a Thing.
    Yes, there were exceptions, some servers I met were the shit.
    But a hell of a lot of them regularly were ridiculously rude to the Chef’s, having NO CLUE WHATSOEVER how hard we work.
    And the pay differential has a lot to do with it.
    When I worked at the Mandarin Oriental, the Servers in Banquets made $60K , easy, per year. While we made peanuts.
    They treated most of us (cooks, Sous Chef, Executive Sous Chef) like shit all the way up the food chain to the Director of Catering raining B.S down on us, plus all the managing flunkies below the Director of Catering. I’d find them stashed in the corner, swigging Fresh Squeezed O.J and downing Latte’s and fresh baked croissants, the profits they brought in with management allowed it.
    ” Who gave her ice cream ?! ” The director of Catering asked once as if some one fed an animal at a zoo. I was eating a home made popsicle from Pastry dept..

    • Jennaratrix

      The solution to all problems mentioned, both in this article and your non-comment, is to pay everyone in the restaurant a decent, equitable wage and abolish tipping altogether.

      • Moar Wordz

        I disagree. It’s not as simple as that. I say keep tipping, but either have Servers tip out cooks NOT on Salary, ( the line cooks, not higher paid Sous, etc.) That way the wages of line cooks are higher, servers are compensated for good service, and the prices of the food and liquor don’t soar upwards.
        You know what that would entail ? Cutting the fat in the front of the house.
        The servers who couldn’t make good tips for whatever reason would or be fired or not stay on ( where’s their $$$ incentive ? )
        Yep, managers salary might take a hit. I’ve had so many terrible managers save one at a shi-shi Country club, that no violins are playing in my ears.
        That would also mean the fat would be cut in management.
        You know, the ones not adding to the team with a solid work effort, the ability to solve conflicts rather than add to them, a proactive approach rather than being full of the negative attitude of ” I own the Kitchen and every server, busser, and dish dog all the way up to Exec Chef because ” Hey , I’ve got a few pages worth of experience and the light saber now. ” These in particular were positively parochial to the Kitchen. Didn’t earn their stripes but would give you side eye if you opened your mouth and cracked a joke or commented.
        Cut ’em, I say.
        And you know what ? They often faded away after their non-management resulted in conflict, tension, loss of profit, mistakes, and a bad feeling in every one’s soul when they were around.
        I’ve worked with stellar managers and some wet behind the ears ones.
        They’re pretty easy to spot.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      As a former server, I can tell you that when it was slow, waitrons and bussers were made to keep busy cleaning the front of the house, scrubbing coffee pots, polishing brass, de-gumming the undersides of tables, washing windows, and doing other scut work while the back of the house stood around laughing that they were getting paid and we weren’t, and loudly demanding that we bring them beverages because our function was to serve. They made more than minimum wage. I made far below it.

      There are two sides to every story.

      • Moar Wordz

        Yes, I believe you and the Cooks you worked with sound abusive.
        I just never saw servers working that hard where I worked. This happened a few decades ago, right ? Not minimizing it, but things have changed a lot since then.
        There are two sides, there are always two sides.
        The work you’re describing as scut work, I call sidework, and as a Server, I also had to do it to. You may have made minimum wage, but your tips made up for that.
        Cooks also do a lot of scut work before servers come in for their shifts. Without tips. Cleaning, organizing, processing deliveries, endless veg prep…..I made it a point to treat servers with respect, but they often gave me a lot of shit. Put in orders for desserts the client hadn’t paid for as a means of making up for a bad entree or a slow entree, wouldn’t tell the manager that they did it because that took too much time, and when I asked them to ring it in, would produce a fake dupe, that didn’t incur a charge, then would delete it. Sneaky shit.
        When we put so much effort into making nice desserts, it was a real slap in the face.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          You “just never saw servers working that hard”?

          LOL OK.

  • ez

    When we were first posted to the UK, as a former Waiter in the States, I was amazed to find out that if I tipped my server with a debit or credit card the House could get part, or all of it-and it was legal. As soon as I heard that I made sure to always have cash pounds on hand for tipping.

    More ‘legalised’ evil Bull Shit.

    • Hesavebread!

      True, but this is changing. Also too minimum wage isn’t adjusted in tipped jobs, tips are on top of the wages. Which aren’t great and I wouldn’t do the job if you gave me a pension so I tip like a drunken sailor.

  • Zyxomma

    One of NYC’s famous Chinese restaurants was forced to close because it stole tips. I’ve mentioned Amanda Cohen, chef-owner of Dirt Candy NYC before (not just because I bought her cookbook in the form of a graphic novel). She pioneered no tipping at her restaurant, because ALL employees make a living wage.

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