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They’re just being bastards for the hell of it now.

Is America Great Again yet? Because the Trump administration just found one more Obama administration rule to roll back, simply because the only thing that matters to these jerks is undoing literally everything passed in the last eight years. The Health and Human Services department’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) is getting rid of several proposed rules, and one of those cancellations appears at first glance to be the result of pure, unadulterated meanness to married couples who are gay:

CMS withdrew a proposal that would have revised the conditions for participation for certain providers, conditions for coverage for certain suppliers and requirements for long-term care facilities. Specifically, the proposed rule published in December 2014 would have revised certain definitions and patient’s rights provisions to ensure same-sex spouses are recognized and afforded equal rights in certain healthcare facilities that receive Medicare and Medicaid funds.

What earthly reason would the administration have for doing this? Obviously, the administration is hell-bent on repealing as many regulations as it can possibly think of, but are any nursing facilities being driven out of business by the costs of letting gay people visit their spouses?

There’s been almost no mention of this regulation outside the healthcare industry press so far. The most detailed discussion of it we’ve seen, in McKnight’s Long-Term Care News, features a CMS spokesperson reassuring America there’s no discriminatory intent:

[The] agency was quick to point out the decision relates to how the rule became moot in 2015, not because it is cutting back on protections for LGBT individuals. A CMS spokesperson told McKnight’s Long-Term Care News the agency is pulling the rule because the Supreme Court’s 2015 ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges required all states to license and recognize same-sex marriage.

“The 2015 decision addressed the concerns that CMS had sought to address with the proposed rule,” the spokesperson said.

Oh, so it’s just eliminating a rule that would have been redundant after the Obergefell decision, how nice. Is there a “Yes, But…”? OF COURSE there is. Former Obama administration CMS Director Andy Slavitt tweeted yesterday that Obergefell “just says people can get married. Entities could still adopt policies that treat same sex spouses differently from opposite sex.”

Attorney Jason Lundy, who told McKnight’s it appeared CMS’s reasoning was simply that the rule was now redundant, agreed Slavitt might have a point:

“It’s conceivable where a facility could say ‘We don’t recognize a same-sex spouse as a family member,’” Lundy said. “I could see where criticism is coming from along those lines, where they think more of an explicit acknowledgement of same-sex marriages on the same footing [as male-female couples] is necessary to avoid those situations.”

Ah, but surely no Christian-run nursing home in the Bible Belt would be so callous as to pull something like that, just because it was common practice until the last decade or two?

Get ready for good god-fearing nursing home administrators to start asserting on Fox News that the Bible tells them they’re not allowed to let married people visit each other, lest it make Baby Jesus cry. And if that happens, here’s hoping they get their bigot asses sued.

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[Becker’s Hospital Review via Sharon Begley on Twitter / McKnight’s Long-Term Care News]

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  • MynameisBlarney

    They’re all hateful, spiteful fucktards.

    • kareemachan

      Um, can’t argue with that.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      they really are- spiteful just for the sake of being assholes

      • TJ Barke

        Deep down they know that liberals are morally superior.

  • jesuswasablack
    • therblig

      a sphincter clutching moment

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))
    • blarg

      HOLY FUCKING SHIT. This man could not be more tone deaf if he jammed his tiny hands into his ears.

    • Notreelyhelping

      Wait until some of them fail to rise for the national anthem. He’ll be slapping them like Patton.

  • Elvis Causticfellow

    Once you let them visit their spouses in nursing homes, they’ll start demanding the right to get married.

    • doktorzoom
      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        A whole new meaning to the phrase “getting your ashes hauled”.

      • Maclare’s House o’ Crap🏠

        I don’t know, she hates it when my clothes migrate to her side of the closet, so…

        • Lex Luthor

          My sister-in-law’s take on same-sex marriage: “You’ve doubled your wardrobe!”

    • MynameisBlarney

      And once they get the right to marry, then it’s Forced Ghey Marriages for EVERYONE!

      • DrBigHead

        So, are “they” going to force me to get a divorce and marry a man?

        • MynameisBlarney

          Yup!

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Gotta keep the fundies onboard…

  • jesuswasablack

    “the only thing that matters to these jerks is undoing literally everything passed in the last eight years”

    If only they could make Obama white!
    https://img.memecdn.com/white-obama_o_750393.jpg

    • therblig

      get a haircut, hippy!

    • doktorzoom

      Chad Hussein Obama

      • TJ Barke

        I was gonna say Brad.

        • doktorzoom

          Glad to see you’re back!

          • TJ Barke

            Are you cheering addiction?

          • doktorzoom

            To Wonkette? You betcha. And the first hit is free.

          • FlownΩver

            Better not be within 1000 feet of a school. Dok.

      • ImGoingBacon

        Bobby Jindal libels!

    • Msgr_MΩment

      C’mon, people you knew he swung both ways.
      Biracial, baby.

      • jesuswasablack

        I believe the technical term is: Halfrican American!

    • PubOption
    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      Kinda looks a little like Kevin Costner

    • mailman27

      Yikes!

    • aureolaborealis

      “WHAT’S HAPPENING TO MUH CUNTRY?!?!?! THEY’S AN OCTOROON IN THE WHITEHOUSE!!!!”
      opens always-ready folder of lynching and watermelon gifs.

      Side note: I have acquaintances and relatives who now with straight faces are trying the spin that they are not racists for voting for Two Scoops, despite having distributed racist gifs and emails during the Obama years.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Which begs the question, what in their opinion IS racist?

        • Whale Chowder

          Hey, they haven’t lynched anybody. Recently.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            That WE know of.

        • aureolaborealis

          I think they believe that if they don’t feel racist, and they say they’re not racist, and they say they’re just saying how they feel, they are then immune to criticism, even if they then segue into a diatribe against The Blacks® and illegals and Jews and how diversity=white genocide. This is not a hypothetical example that I’m making up, btw.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            I guess it is like how the laziest sob you ever worked with (and we all have) thinks they are a great worker. Reality need not apply.

        • Querolous

          They ask Jesus. ‘Course he always gives them the answer that they want.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Ah yes, racist republican jesus who rides a dinosauar.

  • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

    That doesn’t sound like economic populism!

    • It’s all that economic insecurity…

      • (((fka_donnie_d))), SOB

        Oh, it’s insecurity all right.

      • Spurning Beer

        “OW, my economic insecurity!”

  • memzilla Ω
    • TJ Barke

      All part of the gays’ insidious agenda to not be treated like unpersons!

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Is not a Will & Grace reboot enough for you people?

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Can someone explain the Golden Girls for me. The gaybors have a full set of Golden Girls drinking glasses. Why the popularity?

      • Lance Thrustwell

        I can’t answer directly, what with the not-gayness, but there seems to be something about wise/sophisticated, sarcastic women with just a touch of world-weariness about them that really speaks to gay men (this doesn’t speak to Betty White’s character), and there is and has been rather a dearth of such figures on TV; the Golden Girls at least partly filled that bill. Help me out, gaybors – am I on the right track?

        • richardgrabman

          Maybe we saw a more hopeful version of our own future in that program… middle-class people living an “alternative lifestyle” into the “golden years”. After all, what were the Golden Girls but a commune of older people of the same gender living relatively normal lives?

      • Maclare’s House o’ Crap🏠

        Several millennials have told me that whatever Grandma figure you’re missing in your life, that’s a Golden Girl for that!

    • Stulexington

      I just had an image of a version of the Gideon Bible Society, the Judy Numar Music Society, who go to every business and make sure Beyonce is included in every muzzak reel.

    • Shibusa
  • But there was no difference between Clinton and Trump, right?

  • memzilla Ω
    • doktorzoom

      Bravo! Would upvote if upvoter worked.

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      The Supreme Court ruled in Prince v. Massachusetts, 321 U.S. 158 (1944) that parents do not have the right to martyr their children.

    • Stulexington

      Can we talk about the fact that they’re being forced to wear a toga also too?

      • Elvis Causticfellow

        I once saw a mother with a toddler son sporting a (shudder) man bun. Someone please think of the children.

    • TJ Barke

      Hey! That’s HIS choice!

      • DrBigHead

        Not while he is living in my house!!!

        • TJ Barke

          Property is theft!

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Mpeg

      ****As Seen In Previous Post****
      !

      • MynameisBlarney

        Wait…what?
        I must have missed it.

        • Mpeg

          I’ve been reading it a lil here & there at work. Those responsible are a special kind of reprehensible asshole.

  • jesuswasablack

    “Bible tells them they’re not allowed to let married people visit each other, lest it make Baby Jesus cry”
    Before my grandparents died they where both in the same nursing home (both had dementia), grandma had a boyfriend, grampa had a girlfriend, neither one had a fucking clue, it was hilarious!

    • Maclare’s House o’ Crap🏠

      what happens in the nursing home…

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    If someone ever puts me in a Christian-run nursing home, they better hope I live forever. Cause I’m gonna haunt the fuck out of them when I go.

  • Suttree

    This is horrible. I know two guys who are married. Thank goodness they live in Cape Cod! And hey Billy, would you please stop filling up my inbox with pictures of you in Cabo!

  • Mr. Blobfish

    So much for Ivankula and her steadying hand.

    • Joe Beese

      Eh. I’m kind of over hating Ivanka at this point.

      She’s kind of like the Segway. OK, it was marketed with a lot of hype that didn’t pan out. You jeer briefly and move on. You don’t take it personally.

      For the most part she’s keeping her mouth shut, grifting quietly while the grifting’s good. If she pops up with an interview defending Daddy against “Fake News”, we can have a fresh go at her then.

      • Shibusa
      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        Sorry. Her silence is complicity. otoh, I understand, she’s just a bot.

        • Joe Beese

          I’m not saying she’s innocent. There are just so many more immediately detestable people ahead of her.

      • jesuswasablack

        Oh I disagree, she’s an evil cunt, she’s in on the whole goddamn scam, Trump has her there for a reason.

  • theblackdog

    This is actually one of my biggest fears, that I’ll end up in a situation where I need major medical attention and either be denied care because I’m gay, or my fiance will be denied the right to make decisions or visit me. While I thankfully have supportive family, my parents will not be around forever, and it’s not a call my brothers who live halfway across the country need to be making.

    • jesuswasablack
    • blarg

      Two words, man: Living will. Do it!

      • PubOption

        Indeed, you can give power of attorney to anyone, it doesn’t have to be a relative.

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          THIS! Do it. Now.

    • Stulexington

      I’m pretty sure you can still declare them the person who makes your medical decisions. Which would also too make denying visitation awkward.

      • theblackdog

        But since I’m a dude and it’s another dude I clearly am infected by Satan and totally ignoring Jesus so I must be not of the right mind and therefore they can’t let him in or to make decisions. By the time he gets the courts involved it might be too late.

        • Werewolf

          If you name someone as your medical power of attorney that’s all a hospital or hospice can go by, by law. No one has any further say in the matter, including your family (and I’m very glad they’re supportive, BTW). I’m a hospital/hospice chaplain, and I’ve helped people fill the forms out.

          • theblackdog

            It’s good that it’s gotten better than the horror stories I’ve heard in past years.

          • Lex Luthor

            That’s true. It’s not hard to fill out and notarize the forms. But it’s also true that in most states it’s perfectly legal for a hospital to refuse to treat someone who is gay or trans. Power of attorney won’t fix that.

        • Stulexington

          Honestly I can’t see that being the base assumption. Frankly if you explain you don’t want your aging family to have to come to the hospital and want your best friend who you trust to handle things I don’t think they’ll bat an eye. I do understand the fear though, and I wish I could do more to help.

    • aureolaborealis

      The solution is simple and clearly implied by emerging new policies: Don’t be gay.

    • Paul

      As blarg says,you NEED:

      Living will for medical decisions, power of attorney for legal and financial decisions, and a will to leave assets to your fiance. If you don’t have a will your assets will pass to your closest living blood relatives via the intestacy law of your state if you are unmarried.

      Terms vary from state to state. For example, here in Massachusetts, what most states call a “living will” is called a “Health Care Proxy” but the idea is the same. You need someone to handle health decisions. You need someone to manage your finances and legal matters (Power of attorney). And you need a will to give your assets to whomever you wish, because every state has its own intestacy statute that gives your estate to blood relatives of the closest degree of kinship if you die intestate (w/o a will). Usually to parents if they survive, then to any kids you may have, then to your siblings.

      I do these all the time for clients. What state are you in, I can check your particular state’s particulars for you.

      • theblackdog

        Maryland. I know they’ve got something, we just need to sit down and get the paperwork done.

        • Paul

          Want me to look it up or are you all set? Please, get them done.

          • theblackdog

            I’ll look it up but if I need help I’ll ping you, thanks!

  • Joe Beese
    • Old town Urbandale

      Okay, Rexxon’s out on the street by 6 p.m. tomorrow.

      • TJ Barke

        Shit always comes down on Friday.

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          Why are you nekkid?

          • TJ Barke

            Why aren’t you?

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            Because I’m at work and that sort of thing is frowned upon. Srsly – where’s your avatar?

          • TJ Barke

            Wonking while working? For shame…

      • theblackdog

        There’s a rumor that Rexxon, Mattis, and Mnuchin have a “suicide pact” in that if one of them gets fired by Trump, the other two will quit.

        • Old town Urbandale

          You say that like you think it would matter to the dotard.

          • theblackdog

            It wouldn’t matter to him, except that he then gets to hire the dudes who will be more than happy to let him crack open the nuclear football and take aim at NK

        • mailman27

          I’d keep one hand on my wallet if I was making a pact with Mnuchin.

      • blarg

        I think he dares not. Wasn’t there some kind of “suicide pact” between the three of them (Kelly, McMannis, Rexxon). If one goes, they all go?

      • Major_Major_Major

        Big money, big money, big money, big money…Daddy needs this to break even on the pool.

      • Nockular cavity

        Don’t worry. New Secretary of State Alex Jones will bring order to our foreign policy.

        • eggs ackly-wright

          My money’s on Carrot Top.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      “Threatened” to resign?

      • WotsAllThisThen

        Wasn’t a threat. FAKE NEWS!

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      he’ll be gone Friday night. Too bad, Rexxon will take a yooge tax hit (which is probably the only reason he hasn’t already quit)

    • Spurning Beer

      Fucking moron.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      So Trump’s nondenial confirms Rex’s nondenial, vis a vis whether Rexxy called him a fucking moron?

    • TJ Barke

      Has there ever been an admin with this much turnover?

      • wide_stance_hubby

        If only Dolt would turn over his tax returns, too.

  • Old town Urbandale

    Get ready for good god-fearing nursing
    home administrators to start asserting on Fox News that the Bible tells
    them they’re not allowed to let married people visit each other, lest it
    make Baby Jesus cry. And if that happens, here’s hoping they get their
    bigot asses sued.

    Uh, isn’t the nursing home industry making binding arbitration a requirement in the residents’ contracts, with the Feds and states saying, “sure, go ahead, those stupid nursing home residents never contribute big dollars to our reelection campaigns anyway.”?

  • fawkedifiknow

    Syntax question: “Bigot asses” or “bigoted asses”?

    Let’s just say “assholes” and be done with it.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      “I like bigot butts and I cannot lie.” — Trump Admin mantra

    • DrBigHead

      How about “gaping assholes”?

      • aureolaborealis

        “Suppurating assholes”?

        • Querolous

          “Santoruming Assholes”?

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      I’m ok with big itt asses.

  • Spurning Beer

    It is my sincerely held hope that Senator Roy Moore is going to make it easier to hang anti-gay hatred on the Republican party like a 4-H ribbon at a livestock exhibit at the fair.

    • Shibusa

      Well, first comes teh ghey marriage, and then…
      https://media.giphy.com/media/dh3t99rXo02Yg/source.gif

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I don’t want to live in a country where I can’t gay marry my cow and dog.

        • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

          Or my pet goat.

      • Maclare’s House o’ Crap🏠

        I like how the dog is all “oh, are we sitting here now? OK”

      • therblig

        i don’t get why anyone would want decalf

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      The only good thing about Roy Moore is that Republicans are as afraid of him as we are. They don’t want yet ANOTHER unhinged crazy in Congress, since they’re already pretty full of crazies.

      • Spurning Beer

        Bingo

    • TJ Barke

      4H libel?

    • Nockular cavity

      Don’t mention livestock. It gets Moore all excited.

      • Spurning Beer

        “Senator Moore, yes or no question: have you quit heifer fucking?”

        • Querolous

          “You leave my sister out of it!” – Senator Moore

  • elviouslyqueer

    Dear CMS assholes,

    It is a really, really, really, really extraordinarily bad idea to cross a pissed off queen, especially in matters of compassionate care toward his husband.

    You have been warned, motherfuckers.

    EQ

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Here, here EQ.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I shudder to think of the hairstyles that nursing home aides will be sporting.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Guess what? American queers hate you too, Trump and your Bible banger “Christian” friends. You’re a bunch of mistress banging, abortion loving, hypocritical assholes. Burn in hell.

    • Amy!

      It’s easy to tell that all the gays that Trump has ever met hate him. Look at his suits. Look at his ties. Look at his makeup. Look at his hair.

      The man’s a walking catalog of vengeful queer eye for the straight guy.

  • nightmoth

    Back during the AIDS crisis, in the 1980s, men were denied the comfort of their loved ones when they were dying in hospitals. The cruelty of that was one of the things that fired the gay revolution. I’m glad you brought this news blip to our attention.

  • elviouslyqueer

    And in related news, our Religious Freedom “Protection” Act is set to go into effect Friday. Because reasons, according to the 5th Circuit. Mississippi Goddamn, indeed.

    http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/02/opponents-house-bill-1523-appealing-u-s-supreme-court/722725001/

  • Cogswell – In a Mirror, Darkly

    Pure unadulterated evil doesn’t even begin to describe this mis-administration… or those who support it.

    • TJ Barke

      It’s very hard to not spit on cars with maga stickers…

      • Cogswell – In a Mirror, Darkly

        Or, launch a big ol’ loogie through their open sunroofs.

        • TJ Barke

          100 points!

  • MynameisBlarney
    • theblackdog

      Hahahahaha I want to set one of these up.

      • MynameisBlarney

        I think it’s brilliant actually.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Why does the crustacean’s head look like a penis with eyes?

      This is freaking me out and I’m not even drunk yet.

      • MynameisBlarney

        DAMMITALLTOHELL!

        What has been seen…

    • Kiri the Unicorn
    • therblig

      what if you prefer sponges?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Available on request?

    • Uncle Stu?!

    • Arolpin

      It should have a period cup on its head like a beanie.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Bob Corker this AM (I’m paraphrasing): “the only thing stopping complete chaos is Tillerson and the generals.”

    I guess we all better hope that they stick around for the next 3+ years.

    Corker’s gotten really sassy now that he’s leaving!

    • MynameisBlarney

      I seriously don’t think trump will be in office that long.

      • Cogswell – In a Mirror, Darkly

        I seriously hope you are correct.

      • Annie Jomes

        Your mouth to God*’s ears.

        *Whichever one strikes your fancy. Vishnu, Zeus, whoever.

        • MynameisBlarney

          FSM, thanks.

          • Annie Jomes

            R’amen.

          • MynameisBlarney

            May his Noodly Appendage touch you.

          • Lance Thrustwell

            Inappropriately?

          • MynameisBlarney

            That’s between you and the FSM.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Consensual is important.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I think the GOP is too afraid of Trump to try to dump him. The base of the GOP still lurves Trump, no matter how unqualified and incompetent he is. Keep in mind these people are UNBELIEVABLY stupid. In my state they elected Mark Sanford (devout Christian, family man, protector of morals) to Congress AFTER he stole money from constituents while he was governor, so he could go bang his hot mistress in South America. One idiot said to me “I like him because he’s so honest.” I said “uhhh…he stole money from taxpayers, and lied about his whereabouts during hurricane season, so he could go cheat on his wife, and you think that makes him honest?” UNBELIEVABLY STUPID should be the GOP’s new tagline.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Soon turmp will become too crazy even for them.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Keep in mind Roy Moore won the Alabama GOP primary. Let that sink in for a minute, and then tell me who is too crazy for the GOP.

          • MynameisBlarney

            That’s Alabama, they love them ignorant racist zealots down there.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            So does SC, NC, GA, MS, TX, FL, etc… Republicans now control most state governments, as well as all three branches of the federal government.

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          He’s forgiven because he claims to be Christian. Robert Byrd, on the other hand, will always be known a KKK Grand Wizard even though he denounced his association with them decades before he died.

    • TJ Barke

      If they all go, and Donnie goes truly unhinged, maybe they’ll get rid of him sooner…

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I fear Pence more than I fear Trump. Pence might actually get some shit done. Trump is too busy feuding with football players to actually accomplish anything.

        • Canned Covfefe

          ^^^THIS!!!

        • Iron Monkey

          Pence scares the hell out of me. He knows how to deal with Congress, knows when to seem to compromise to get the worst of the right wing agenda through Congress and won’t get distracted by being challenged.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Exactly! A lot of Wonkers think Pence would be an improvement over Trump because he wouldn’t start a nuclear war. If Pence passes his agenda, I’ll be PRAYING for a nuclear holocaust. As a gay, Pence is my nightmare president – a whackjob religious nut, who is a genuine true believer, who thinks he has God on his side. I prefer the incompetent boob who can’t get anything done.

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Actually, isn’t he one of those fanatical dominionists who want to bring about the apocalypse?

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Probably. Who knows what any of these idiots actually want?

    • And it looks like they are out the door this week.

    • Major_Major_Major

      If Fuckface von Clownstick makes it another 3+ years, I am pretty sure I won’t. Cirrhosis will set in well before that.

    • jesuswasablack

      No the sooner the administration is consumed by chaos the sooner the fucksticks that voted Trump will realize how they fucked this country. Avoiding chaos only ensures his re-election.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I live amongst the rubes, and here’s one thing I can tell you – they have NO idea that Trump’s completely unqualified, and has made a fool of himself and America. They are completely unaware of what a colossally dangerous fuckup he is, because all the news they ever watch is on Fox. They genuinely believe Fox News is the only true news. Fox licks Trump’s ass and tickles his balls every single day, so they think Trump is positively delightful.

        • Iron Monkey

          Very important point. Most Trump voters have no buyer’s remorse and no idea that he has shown repeatedly he is the not qualified to be anything but a real estate huckster.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            They don’t seem to even care that he’s a real estate huckster who cheats people, people who are a lot like them.

          • Gussie Jives

            I wouldn’t count on buyers remorse either. They have constructed a very elaborate blame funnel for all their problems, and directed it at the “other”. A Republican politico could kidnap their kid right in front of them and they’d still find a way to blame the “libtards” for it.

    • georgiaburning

      Trump is the distraction, like a magician uses. Meanwhile the Repubs tear down the government and make the 20th century disappear.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Except they can’t pass anything! Health care debate is pretty much over. Tax reform? LOL, good luck passing a bill that the vast majority of Americans do NOT want. What else do they have? Overturning Roe v. Wade? Yeah, that will work out well, once everyone has to start paying higher taxes to pay for all those beautiful abandoned babies.

        • georgiaburning

          There are a lot of economical ideas for orphan care to be found in Dickens’ novels. /s

          • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

            Shh, they don’t read anything but a highly cherry picked bible.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        That is my conclusion as well, he is a symptom of the disease.

  • King Beauregard

    It’s a good thing Trump is doing so much to alleviate people’s ECONOMIC ANXIETY.

    • TJ Barke

      They were anxious that minorities would be treated fairly in the economy…

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        This^^^.

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        Guess they can stop worrying.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    I have been very lucky in that any time hubby has needed medical attention, we have been treated well. That said, I have always been braced for less and bore a stare no hospital staff member would cross until I knew we’d be treated fairly.

    • elviouslyqueer

      My hubby is a nurse in a local hospital, so I’m usually reassured by that. But this doesn’t also mean that we’ve had several conversations about “but what if there’s one coworker who decides to ‘follow the rules.’ What then?” That’s what scares the living shit out of me.

      • wide_stance_hubby

        I know that scare, too.

        • Jeffery Campbell

          Me too. We have experienced a problem at our local hospital first hand. I was really startled by the volume of yelling that suddenly started coming out of my mouth. I apparently, based on eye-witness accounts, went bat-shit crazy.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    It’s like those gay folks that just didn’t like Hillary and “besides, Trump doesn’t hate gays so why would we worry?” voters might have been a bit wrong, eh? See what happens when you support a guy that you know is a bigot, but you are hoping is not bigoted to your particular lifestyle?

    • Pisto75666

      “He didn’t mean ME…he meant THOSE people”

      It’s like a terrible movie………on endless repeat.

  • JMP

    But Donald claimed he’d be the best President ever for the LG..b…t? community. Surely he wasn’t lying?!

    • TJ Barke

      Treating them like second class citizens is great for them, Pence told him so!

      • Rocket Pony Ron

        Didn’t think they’d made it UP to second class yet.

    • therblig

      the Lots of Guns and Bullets Toting community? he loves them.

    • doktorzoom

      The way he read “L…G..B…T..Q” like an item on a foreign menu sure inspired confidence.

      • notanncoulter

        oh god please just don’t ask him what the letters stand for… please don’t…

        • Rocket Pony Ron

          ‘Lettuce… something… bacon… tomato… what kind of food starts with Q”‘

          • AmazingProfessionalCrastinator

            quince?

          • Querolous

            ‘Lettuce… guacamole… bacon… tomato…quesadilla’?

  • Maclare’s House o’ Crap🏠

    Huh.
    Partner O’ Maclare has ALS, and might need full time care in future.
    We have talked about making sure we get visitor and partner access IN WRITING, separately from the contract if we have to, because we don’t trust anyone to obey any law.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      “Laws? We don’t need no stinkin’ laws!”

      Sorry about your partner.

      • Maclare’s House o’ Crap🏠

        “We spit on your laws!”

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Hugs for both the Maclares.

      • Maclare’s House o’ Crap🏠

        Thankee!

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Sending you my very best. And you are right not to trust anyone on this and that is quite sad.

  • Cogswell – In a Mirror, Darkly
    • Rocket Pony Ron

      THIS is why I haven’t get given up on human beings.

  • FlownΩver

    You know what else makes hypothetical Baby Jesus cry?

    I’ll start: THIS!

  • Sometimes the only thing that keeps me going is knowing that the unstoppable tide of time is leaving these bigoted, homophobic, idiotic people behind. History will not remember them fondly.

    • Pisto75666

      Sadly (and not to rain on the parade) some of them are passing that crap to their kids and grandkids so, it’s far from over.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        Yes, look at Charlie Daniels, he gets fame and fortune for being a long haired country boy smoking dope and criticizing the TV preacher. Now he
        spouts hated and intolerance.
        edited twice: still posts funny.

      • Oh, I know. It’s either lie to myself that humankind is not completely worth saving or go live on a deserted island, and as I haven’t won the lottery yet so I can buy my own deserted island….

        • Pisto75666

          I’m not at the point yet that humankind isn’t worth saving, but I’ve come close a few times. Especially in the last week. I’ve tried to do the deserted island thing (staying away from people) and try as I might, it doesn’t really work.

      • …humankind is not *yet* completely *beyond* saving…

        I need to lay off the twenty-martini lunches.

        • Pisto75666

          A twenty martini lunch doesn’t sound that bad to me. And I don’t even drink! We all do what we need to to get through this shitshow that is this administration .

  • Lance Thrustwell

    This just seems suspicious. The same people who just a few years ago were fighting gay marriage tooth and nail suddenly are all like, oh well, law of the land, nobody’s gonna give ’em a hard time…?

    On the bright side, I do feel like any married couple that is denied equal treatment in health-care facilities has a pretty strong lawsuit on their hands.

    • WeaselPoo

      Except…each gay couple shouldn’t have to go through a time(sucking costly lawsuit in the first place.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Well, maybe “bright” is too strong a word. Twilit?

    • Civil rights are the law of the land but look at all the issues non-whites still face in this day and age – almost half a century onwards and we still have problems.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Sorry, but I will refer you to my post below about HB 1523, which allows for denying of equal treatment for religious reasons.

      This fight is far from over, sadly.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        Far, far, far from over….

  • VirginiaMorningBlend

    Perhaps it’s time to start using their tactics against them? Begin to quietly and unobtrusively join churches. Nauseating but necessary for the plan to work. Once there are enough gay members simply take over and change every damn thing.
    It takes time but it worked for them. Look what’s in charge of our government. Special shout out to the creature running the department of education.

    • Hmmm… Gives a new meaning to steeplejacking.

      • VirginiaMorningBlend

        Since we can’t seem to keep religion out of our reality, we change it. He who controls the religion controls the believers. Gotta admit it works.

        • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

          Sadly they just split off and make an even flakier church.

      • Natalie Au Natural Hedonist

        My dad was a steeplejack. I find many people don’t know what that is.

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      Hey, it worked for me!
      Lex Martin Luther

  • puredog

    “. . .

    here’s hoping they get their bigot asses sued SUCCESSFULLY.” Imma wait and see how the CO baker’s case shakes out (though it is different enough that it might not matter. Anyway, Imma still wait.)

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    You can visit, but you can’t bring a gay cake.

  • Suttree

    Hey y’all, I have a question to ask. Have I been mean lately, or rude, or any particular brand of asshole? I’ve been drinking a lil bit and want to make sure that i have been on good behavior.

    • Zyxomma

      Not that I’ve noticed.

    • ziggywiggy

      Hasn’t everyone been using intoxicants in higher amounts since January?

      • Vacuous Virgina

        🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋

      • BearLeft

        Not enough, for sure.

      • NellCote71

        And when I wake up from a binge, orange asshole is still playing president.

      • Suttree

        I have been! I don’t know I got a comment from Dok last night that basically said cut that out!

      • Suttree

        He-he! I was actually asking a deep question?

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      You’ve been your usual angry snarky self, near as I can tell. If anything, perhaps a bit gentler than usual.

      • Suttree

        I am trying to be nice!

      • Suttree

        OK. i’m just making sure! So I am totally normal!

        • Rocket Pony Ron

          Normal? Geez, I hope not!

  • Ellie

    “It’s conceivable where a facility could say ‘We don’t recognize a same-sex spouse as a family member,’” Lundy said.” Yes, it is, and should that happen, the spouse should move heaven and earth to get his/her spouse the hell out of that facility, because if it wants to eliminate a loved one visiting (absent any domestic violence), IMO, it’s to cover up abuse and neglect.

    • ziggywiggy

      Sure as long as you are not too poor. I’m sure there are places that would do it because the couple is same-sex and the place is just religious(not abusive in other ways). Not trying to be nasty because I agree you wouldn’t want to be part of a facility that would do that, but if that little rule stays in place it eliminates the issue then you just have to worry if the place is good for your loved one.

    • Lex Luthor

      How are you going to move them out if the hospital doesn’t recognize your right to make medical decisions for them?

  • Panika MCD

    Obergefell does specifically state that same sex couples should have all the same rights as heterosexual couples. that’s why you see all these lawsuits where jurisdictions controlled by assholes are saying that they’ll have to get rid of all spousal benefits and marital protections if they’re not allowed to discriminate. there’s also a case alleging that Houston should not be allowed to extend spousal benefits to their employees in same-sex marriages (brought to us by Mucus, Pastor Welch and their henchmen).

    • Lex Luthor

      Yeah, but those are the rights regarding how the government treats a marriage. Many states don’t have a law that says private hospitals must allow legal spouses to visit. The Houston case involves the city government, not a private entity. We need nondiscrimination laws as well as legal marriage. Otherwise, you can get legally married and then be legally fired, denied housing, and banned from restaurants for doing so.

      • Panika MCD

        this is true. and if you’re in a city that doesn’t have one or you live in any state which has been infected by Mucus, you need to go petition for and vote for comprehensive EROs because it’s possible that you had one and don’t anymore.

  • Serai 1

    Since it looks like it’s going to be another one of those days, here’s a little something to help get us through…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTm4vr6w9qo

    Just to tide you over until Open Thread!

    • Jan Ness

      Thanks for that. We needed some nice time

      • Serai 1

        Any time is a good time for Nice Time!

    • Zyxomma

      Thanks, Serai.

    • TakingAmes

      Thanks! Pouncy kittehs are the best!

    • is that a 16 minute tracking shot of kittens?

      suck it children of men!

  • Zyxomma

    Sigh. Still haven’t awoken in the alternate universe where none of this bullshit is happening.

    • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

      Well, yanno. I was just thinking a bit ago that *eventually* (nowhere near damn soon enough, but..), eventually things are going to swing back in the other direction because they always do. And because the current sh*tshow in Washington is going so balls to the wall with undoing every stroke of common decency that was enacted in the last – has it been forever? -, that pushback is going to be FIERCE when it happens.

      I just hope I’m still alive and not scrubbing nuclear waste sites with my toothbrush when it happens.

  • C4TWOMAN

    And here I thought they stopped beating this particular dead horse…
    http://memes.ucoz.com/_nw/50/73899779.jpg

  • Poly_Ester

    Are their any Trump branded long-term care facilities?

    • C4TWOMAN

      Not enough money in it. Same reason there’s no Trump daycare.

    • Khavrinen

      People in [ hypothetical ] Trump care facilities probably wouldn’t live long enough for them to be called “long-term”. Because that would cost money.

    • SeeTrain65

      Not yet, but soon.

      They’re going to be known as “Soylent Green Manufacturing Plants.”

  • Mary Theresa

    You know who else the Trump admin doesn’t like?

    Sessions reverses DOJ policy on transgender employee protections: report
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/354023-sessions-reverses-doj-policy-on-transgender-employee

  • Trump’s Potemkin Village

    Who do the white male supremacists like? They don’t even like other white male supremacists. They don’t even like themselves. lol.

    • Jimh

      I think you’re on to something there.

  • Mavenmaven

    To think people actually believed Trump when he proclaimed himself a defender of LGBT rights.

    • Trump’s Potemkin Village

      To think people actually believed Trump’s stance on any issue.

      • Mavenmaven

        He still has AIPAC left, although he hasn’t done anything he said he’d do.

        • Kooolest G

          he told them he was gonna move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem, then decided to “postpone” that move

      • Gussie Jives

        That alone still blows me away. I get the people can be gullible, but it’s not like he was a well-disguised confidence man. He’s been a known charlatan for decades. How anybody didn’t take one look at the lumpy weirdo speaking purely in superlatives with that hair and think to themselves “Oh hell naw!”

        • Khavrinen

          Some people are astoundingly willing to believe what they want to hear, no matter who is saying it.

        • What Khavrinen said. They believed it because they wanted to believe it so they would not feel “bad” about voting for the shit muffin

        • ~Devil’s Food~

          The collective U.S. Stupidity Quotient is unprecedentedly off-the-charts.

          -_-

          #AllTimeHistoricLows.

          #UnbelievableTrumpianStupidityEnMasse.

      • blaid droog

        I never heard a word the sonofabitch ever spoke. I also never doubted that he would be the declared winner.

  • Kooolest G

    I seem to remember the one argument that seemed to make the christians hesitate a little on being so anti gay marriage was the argument that people should be allowed to visit their loved ones in the hospital, because not letting them do that seemed rather un-christian. apparently they’ve changed their minds about that

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      It’s amazing what you can get away with when you redefine what ‘being Christian’ means. I predict that soon it will include ritual sacrifice and pre-tax tithing at 80%.

  • Werewolf

    Okay, this is important. If you are LGBTQ (actually, if you are cis/het also, too) and in a relationship, married or not, NAME YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER AS YOUR MEDICAL POWER OF ATTORNEY! Your MPOA has the absolute right to make medical decisions for you and visit you. AN MPOA HAS MORE RIGHTS IN THIS CASE THAN A FAMILY MEMBER OR SPOUSE! And since MPOA does not necessarily correlate to family, not even the most homophobic of religious institutions can override it.

    • Rocket Pony Ron

      Excellent advice.

  • Lex Luthor

    Reason number 3000 to avoid Catholic hospitals if you have any choice in the matter. (See also: living wills, miscarriage care, labor and delivery…) Unfortunately, consolidation has left many folks without another option.

    The healthcare issue was a major reason we decided legal marriage was crucial, especially after AIDS. But without non discrimination laws, it won’t be enough.

  • to ensure same-sex spouses are recognized and afforded equal rights in certain healthcare facilities that receive Medicare and Medicaid funds
    Why?
    The why is obvious in this. “Christian” Nursing homes living off the government teat don’t want no homos

  • BeachLoafer

    I’m hoping that this is a situation where the question is moot.
    ANY facility with competent legal advice will rapidly come to understand that denying visitation to a non-hetero spouse will SURELY get them sued (and lose), and will likely back down promptly.
    The ones that don’t fully deserve the whoopin’ that’ll be handed to them by the courts.

  • SeeTrain65

    Easy way to know this question is not moot:

    THIS ADMINISTRATION SAYS IT IS.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    I don’t think the Trump administration hates gay people for religious reasons. I think the Dotard is just jealous of any group capable of earning the love and respect of their spouses when he can’t.

  • Keith Taylor

    Oh, boy. I haven’t often seen this matter covered in a more succinct and cogent way than in an old Doonesbury strip. The macho black campaign worker says to another campaign worker that he thinks maybe this guy shouldn’t be working on the campaign because it could cost votes, and the other guy says calmly, “How’s that?” “Well,” the black dude says awkwardly, “I hear you’re gay.” “That’s right,” the gay dude answers. “I hear you’re black.” The other guy bridles considerably and cries, “Yeah, but that’s NORMAL!”
    The gay campaign worker says with a dry little smile, “Didn’t used to be,” and goes back to the paperwork.
    Although too many people would like blacks and gays to both become invisible pariahs again. Along with historians who think their work is a sacred chore in the service of truth, probably. Who needs those? When without them we could make slavery seem OK and deny the Holocaust just fine …

  • persistently_resistant_gayby

    Where are those asshole Log Cabin Republicans now…? I’d like to have a word and a slap

  • BullDyke Odell

    just like fat subhuman garbage rebecca.

  • lovelydestruction
  • SCK

    The Trump presidency is the worst this country has ever had.

  • ~Devil’s Food~

    #TheDrumpfAdministration.

    #DeplorablyRottenToTheCore.

    #WhimperingLittleBiitchesAll.

    -_-

    https://youtu.be/SpIoPQHYhrw

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