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Kneeling is SO disrespectful!
Kneeling is SO disrespectful!

Sunday mornings in the fall are special in America. A day that nearly the entire country holds sacred. Businesses shut down, some states suspend liquor sales, and the streets are quiet. The good people of America are participating in the hallowed religious ritual of going to church watching professional football on the teevee machine. We here at Wonkette are not entirely immune to this phenomenon, some of us having been raised to believe in a magical sky man that grants touchdowns to worthy receivers, such as Steve Largent, PBUH. Your humble Shypixel, in particular, grew up in a family based upon faith. Faith in the trio of professional teams that called Seattle their home, the Supersonics, the Mariners, and especially the Seahawks. As any good, true, and loyal fan does, I nurture a deep and unreasoning hatred for the rivals of my team, and for the stars of those accursed enemy teams. You can see where I am going with this, I hated Colin Kaepernick before it was cool, and for a good reason. I mean, he played for the ‘Niners, nuff said. Then he started bending the knee during the national anthem…

Since that initial act of protest against our national anthem, America, and everything we hold dear the lack of attention focused on the staggering number of black people being murdered accidentally deadified without any possible blame by our nation’s finest, the “Police,” the protest has spread through the NFL like a virus, with players across the league kneeling, sitting, or squatting during the anthem. Clearly, this is a national emergency, on par with the bad hombres of Mexico, and old Elton John song titles.

You know who doesn’t like that? Known tiny-hands-haver and acting President, Donald Trump. In the long and storied tradition of sitting US Presidents releasing public announcements attacking private citizens, dating all the way back to 2017, D.J. Trumpkins firmly denounced an unnamed footballer man, calling him a “Son of a Bitch” during a stump speech for the unfortunately named Luther Strange (R- Marvel Comics). You know who didn’t like that? Football mans. And Basketball mans, too. Grand Champion Of All Basketballing, LeBron James, was surfing the Twitters and calling Our Dear Leader a bum. Even the NFL was like, “Whoa, dude!” and slid waaay down the bench. Faced with such popular backlash, the healthiest President of all time (citation needed) did what any sane person would do, distance themselves from the asinine comments, and apologize.

Hahahahahaha! JUST KIDDING! Stupid being is as stupid does, President Gump doubled down with a trademark twitter tirade. He decried the great disrespect these bad egg sportsballers are showing our great country! He demanded that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell force his peons to stand! He uninvited star Warrior of Golden State, Steph Curry, from the White House! Mr. Curry, the current holder of the NBA’s Most Steph Curry Player title and noted basket maker, had already rather publicly declined the invitation to Trump’s House Of Pussy Grabbing, but what the hell, YOU CAN’T QUIT, YOU’RE FIRED!™ Yes, my gentle Wonkers, our beloved orange diaper king has taken the situation in hand, and like a delicate surgeon, he has meticulously removed this dire national infection, restoring our national unity.

Hahahahahahaha! I AM KIDDING AGAIN! DAMN YOU GUYS ARE GULLIBLE! In a development that only people with functioning brains could have foreseen, fanning the flames has only made the fire bigger. Bigly bigger. One might even be inclined to say YUUUGE! We are rather gleefully able to report that by this morning’s writing, the infection has spread across the entire Wide World of Sports. We had already seen cases of Acute Anthem Kneeling in the WNBA, when the aptly named for our analogy Indiana Fever bent the knee to godless communism as a team this past Wednesday. But now this infection has spread to our NATIONAL PASTIME! Yup, you read it here fourteenth, Colin Kaepernick has ruined baseball. Last night, Oakland Athletic Bruce Maxwell became the first MLB player to join this insidious and satanic movement. He even released a statement, justifying his literally pissing all over Old Glory and Betsy Ross’s corpse:

“The point of my kneeling was not to disrespect our military or our constitution or our country,” Maxwell said. “My hand was over my heart because I love this country and I have family members, including my father, who bled for this country, and who continue to serve. At the end of the day, this is the best country on the planet. I am and forever will be an American citizen and grateful to be here, but my kneeling is what’s getting the attention, and I’m kneeling for the people who don’t have a voice.

“This goes beyond the black and Hispanic communities because right now we have a racial divide that’s being practiced from the highest power we have in this country saying it’s basically OK to treat people differently. I’m kneeling for a cause but I’m in no way disrespecting my country or my flag.”

Is that all? No, that is not all! Far away in the Fairy Tale Land of London, players from the Jacksonville Jaguars and Baltimore Ravens staged a massive kneel-down before playing their American football game, inexplicably, in England. Great! Now people in other countries will know that some of us aren’t racist fucks. Thanks, Jaguars and Ravens, way to keep it in the family. Even more galling to Trump-loving #MAGA panty-waists, the owner of the Jaguars knelt down beside his lessers in support. But his name is Shad Kahn, so he is probably, you know, one of those people. Take it away, Shad:

(Please ignore the one million dollars he gave to Donald Trump.)

BUT WAIT! THERE IS MORE! Have statements been issued? YES! Statements have been issued! Like this one, from the Green Bay Packers:

Famously bald person Terry Bradshaw was not impressed, either. He stated that while he could not condone the protest itself, he totally condones the protest. Confused? So were we. Watch:

Hell, even Brennan Gilmore’s Grandpa got in on the act, and we don’t even know who the fuck Brennan Gilmore is:

Not to be outdone, because of how they are the very best of all teams in all ways forever, shut up, my Seahawks have been all kinds of Social Justice about this shit. Star defensive end and all-around awesome guy Michael Bennett, who was an early adopter of the protest, had this to tweet:

Wide Receiver Doug Baldwin also had words to say:

And coach Pete Carroll released the following statement:

“In this incredibly polarizing time, there’s no longer a place to sit silently. It’s time to take a stand. We stand for love and justice and civility. We stand for our players and their constitutional rights, just as we stand for equality for all people. We stand against divisiveness and hate and dehumanization. We are in the midst of a tremendously challenging time, a time longing for healing. Change needs to happen; we will stand for change. May we all have the courage to take a stand for our beliefs while not diminishing the rights of others as this is the beating heart of our democracy. As a team, we are united in a mission to bring people together to help create positive change. We can no longer remain silent. I will stand with our players”

GO HAWKS!

All this kumbaya bullshit isn’t sitting well with everyone. This is something up with which Joe Walsh will not put!

To which we can only reply, FUCK YOU JOE, PAY YOUR FUCKING CHILD SUPPORT!

So this is where we find ourselves this fine Sunday morning. Your Shypixel hates Donald Trump for a good many reasons, but today, I hate him for making me like Colin Kaepernick. Oh well, at least he isn’t with the ‘Niners any more… Let’s go see how all the sportsball men say “Fuck You Donald Trump” today! Will any of them be as cool as this one?

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  • armed_bears

    Terry Bradshaw is not a libtard, BTW. When you start to lose Fox….

    • Toledo Window Box

      Far from it!

  • Jaguars owner Shad Kahn became very Presidential today…

    #TakeTheKnee https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e92479a525086c7c311ed9fb50785dc04a2ae1709850ffeca746c8c73f53e0d3.png

    • armed_bears

      Bonus Picasso points for the ‘Stache of Freedom.

      • Lot_49

        Not Dalí points? Salvo’s stache definitely made points.

        • armed_bears

          You are right… I am hirsute gifted, but also hirsute challenged.

    • The Wanderer

      That is a truly manly mustache.

  • bubbuhh

    Stevie Wonder says #TakeAKnee so you just go on now and do it. Get down with the program. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/73b2df9885a706f6a2d171eeac6ea6a89cd63fe76bda0466842d93fb2b1eee7f.jpg

  • natoslug

    Trump’s so vain, he probably thinks this protest is about him.

    • wait! what?

      He did stare at the total eclipse of the sun.

      • Daniel

        And his scurf it is apricot.

        • wait! what?

          See, this is where I wanna type – he had Ivanka several years ago; but I just can’t do it.

          • Daniel

            Back in his home state, when he found her tempting.

            He had her several years ago, while she was still white NY Eve.

          • wait! what?

            That’s just too good…

        • Serai 1

          His SCALP, it is apricot.

          • Daniel

            “Scurf” is closer to “scarf”.

          • Ill-Advised

            He had one eye in the TV cam
            and we watched him not pivot…

          • Ill-Advised

            He had one eye in the TV cam
            as we watched him not pivot.

        • Fun with Cthulhu

          You are win the Internets for today.

    • Big Puppy Resists

      Perfect.

  • ManchuCandidate

    The saddest part of all is if US Amercian cops stopped killing unarmed black folks (and getting away with it) then none of this would ever be necessary. Then the NFL can go back to doing their damnedest to deny/ignore that their sport is slowly killing their players by pounding their brains into mush.

    I would kneel with Kap.

  • Ricky Gay

    Man Shy. That’s good writing! Don’t be so shy in the future! Er, wait! DO BE SHY!!!

  • Roger Wilco

    I didn’t dodge the draft so some son of a bitch could take a knee during the national anthem. Patdeth . . . Pathe . . . Pathed ick …. . . SAD

    • Daniel

      “I didn’t fight a war so some employee could kneel during the anthem.”
      “You fought a war, sir?”
      “No! That’s what I said! I didn’t fight a war, so some employee could kneel during the anthem.”
      “…”
      “If I had he wouldn’t.”
      “Of course.”
      “And I’d have won.”

  • The Wanderer
    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Fire him!!!! Lock him up!!!

    • Daniel

      I’m surprised that Trump doesn’t know about this. It must be correct history- it’s a statue.

    • Disrespectful cunt

      • sarafina

        The Wanderer or Washington?

        • The Wanderer

          I haven’t been called a cunt in months. It’s refreshing.

        • Washington, that knee taking, ivory toothed bastard…

          • puredog

            I thought he had wooden teeth.

      • The Wanderer

        Thank you!

        • You know I meant GW

          • The Wanderer

            Thank you anyway. :-)

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      Who is that?

      • The Wanderer

        Some guy. George Washington or something. Made a big splash back in the horse and buggy days.

        • Celtic_Gnome

          Many people are talking about him.

  • coozledad

    Sons of Klansmen should keep their anus-shaped pieholes shut.

  • Up In Smoke O’hontas

    Today I will do my patriotic duty to sit on the couch, drink beer all afternoon, and wait to see if Rodgers can finally get a W against the Bengals. It’s the least I can do for my country.

  • msanthropesmr

    But I am supposed boycott sportsball because of the shameful CTE. But Trump is telling me to boycott sportsball. And I want to o the opposite of what that asshole sez. What am I to do?

    • natoslug

      I’m going to protest by doing what I usually do — take a walk, have a pint at the brewery, and maybe read my book if that pint doesn’t invite any others to follow it.

      • FauxAntocles

        I never met a pint that was that rude.

    • Jamoche

      But he’s also telling you to boycott it because there’s not enough CTE for him, so you’re good. Just be sure to cheer any 15 yard penalty for excessive force.

      • msanthropesmr

        BUT I DONT LIKE FOOTBALL!

        • Jamoche

          Insert sport of choice, regardless of balls. He’ll get around to them eventually. I don’t even want to think about his opinions on gymnastics or figure skating.

        • Spurning Beer

          You’ll watch it, and you’ll like it, mister.

        • Panika MCD

          watch it for the commercials?

        • The Wanderer

          We’re having pizza football chips naps beer and football. That doesn’t have much football in it.

        • little miss high and mighty

          LIKE has nothing to do with this.
          suit up, start those laps!

    • Panika MCD

      don’t worry, he managed to lambaste both the kneeling and the new safety measures to combat CTE in players.

    • little miss high and mighty

      suit up, start running laps, no lagging, miss Anthrope!
      Wag it and shag it, Stampers!

  • tegrat

    The sports team from my area is always superior to the sports team from you area (h/t the onion). But seriously, until white guys like me stop being silent, nothing will happen. I stand with Colin, and I like him, too!

  • Thanks Shy!

  • Daniel

    Can I just say it’s weird y’all sing the anthem before all your sports matches anyway?

    • msanthropesmr

      Hail, Hail Freedonia.

    • natoslug

      I’m impressed that we haven’t taken it to reciting the pledge of allegiance, followed by feeding a not-American to a pack of rabid dogs.

      • msanthropesmr

        That’s a sport in and of itself.

    • Spurning Beer

      Hell, down here in Floridastan, they did the Pledge of Allegiance and sang the National Anthem before a beekeeping workshop this spring. Plus a prayer in Jesus’ name.

      • Daniel

        Woah.

      • Eileen Besse

        I moved here for the weather. I forgot it came with the politics….

        • Spurning Beer

          To borrow a phrase from S. J. Perelman, it’s not the heat, it’s the cupidity.

    • Toledo Window Box

      “All other countries have inferior potassium…”

      – Borat

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      Yes, you can, because it is pointless patriotic chauvinism.

    • Serai 1

      Sure. And you’re right. It’s fucking pathetic, frankly. A country so paranoid it needs its citizens to shout their loyalty at every opportunity.

      • ahughes798

        It’s also like most Christians…so insecure in their faith that they feel the need to bludgeon the rest of us with it.

    • everstar

      It’s so we all don’t forget what country we’re in.

    • Ill-Advised

      We like our sports teams to imagine they’re patriots at war. Makes it easier for the rest of us to sit and spectate.

    • MrTusks

      America is God, FOOTBAW is church, and the Star Spangled Banner is hymn no. 1.

  • Rebel Scum with permit

    The team owners probably hate him at this point. They needed for him to bring up these controversies like they needed a hole in the head, not that I have a lot of sympathy for mostly rich white billionaires. They all supported him, and he created all this grief to score some cheap political points and gin up his base in Alabama. More proof that Trump is loyal to no one but Trump.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      He could have gone to them privately to discuss his concerns, but he has no filter, no discernment, no knowledge, no impulse control.

    • Querolous

      ” like they needed a hole in the head”Holes in the head, aka CTE, is a problem that they already have.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        If I had a son I wouldn’t encourage football. Who wants to risk their child having brain damage. What kind of people want to watch humans give each other brain damage…oh..wait….

        • ahughes798

          People who watch boxing?

    • Ill-Advised

      I really don’t get this. Trump has several times now sacrificed aa national issue to “gin up a base”–Florida, West Virginia, Alabama. Why does this work? How does it work, that these little pockets of people matter more than the plurality of people?

  • Lot_49

    The Seahawks have gone downhill ever since they got rid of Jim Zorn.

    • Nounverb911

      I was disappointed when they got rid of Charlie Whitehurst.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      Lol! Good old Jim. As one wag once said of Zorn: “He didn’t have ten years of NFL experience. He had one year of experience ten times.”

      • Arolpin

        Jim Zorn was probably not as good as Steve Largent made him look. Too bad Steve turned out to be a RWNJ.

    • I once read a book that referred to “the Mirer Era”

      I wanted to cry.

  • DrBigHead

    I will watch. I will cheer. I will curse. especially after what the football gods have done, once again, to my beloved Vikings.

    • everstar

      Letting them win a game?

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Two things the US has a lock on: fetishizing patriotism and tragedy.

    • Joe Beese

      Don’t forget weapons exports.

      We kick all kinds of ass on weapons exports.

      • Spurning Beer

        Also, monetizing racism.

      • Toledo Window Box

        And sucking every last ounce of nutrition and flavor out of food.

  • Joe Beese

    I wonder what the many (according to Trump) who are boycotting the NFL because of this are doing this afternoon.

    Cleaning the gutters, perhaps? Muttering under their breath about those lousy unpatriotic foosballers?

    • msanthropesmr

      Abusing their wives?

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the ratings went up this weekend TBH

    • armed_bears

      I prefer to think “exploring their feminine sides.”

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Even the most manly man can wear a cute dress. :-D

        • george lastrapes

          A friend of mine made a rude comment about a bearded homeless man wearing a summer frock. I rejoined, “Look, Darryl, just because he’s a trampvestite doesn’t mean he’s a hobosexual!”

    • little miss high and mighty

      Is compliance being moitored by anyone?

  • sosuume
    • YoBunnyBunny

      But that’s too much wooooooork!!!!

  • Joe Beese

    As a boy Beese in the late 70s, I rooted for the Dallas Cowboys. They were winners. Also, other reasons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDDzx-sWkVM

  • Nounverb911

    Um Sean, your salary comes in part from NFL football of Fox….
    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/911988196019507201

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      No one cares what you do with your weekends, Sean.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        His incredibly lifelike sex doll hates weekends.

        • Daniel

          It’s when he takes her for dinner at his parents’.

    • Toledo Window Box

      If they’d boycotted something Obama did, he’s be ALL OVER IT.

    • Joe Beese

      You know, Lumpy, you could just tune in after the anthem.

      If that leaves you feelingly insufficiently patriotic, play the damn song yourself. Whitney Houston did a well-received version that you can buy as a recording.

    • The Wanderer

      And Lumpy Face has to sound off. Hopefully he wiped the jizz off his chin first.

    • Professor Fate

      I thought Sean hated college.

    • Serai 1

      Oh Christ, this asshole again.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f18bfca13e6e16af8ebe81ccc1b3afa3d575518a76c505f6e59a2567f52a959c.jpg

      *eyeroll* Fuck off, troll. Nobody cares what you like or don’t like. Go drown yourself in your fucking beer and give us all a fucking rest, you SHITHEAD.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • PubOption

      Keep on rocking, Angela.

  • Ωbjectifier

    TBH. Terry Bradshaw has been confused for a very long time.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      He never recovered from trying to figure out the Immaculate Reception.

  • memzilla Ω
    • Toledo Window Box

      Such passion between these two, you can cut it with a knife.

      • Daniel

        He’s nursing a tiny hand that’s just been slapped away.

    • Donnie needs to update the software in his robotic sexdoll to smile more.

  • “Under God” was added to the Pledge of Allegiance during the wondrous McCarthy Era.

    The “and Donald Trump” addition will be up for a vote if Dems lose bigly in 2018

    • Toledo Window Box

      And all those Conferderate statues were put up to fight back against civil rights.

      • Jamoche

        Plus renaming the shortest street in town after MLK always seemed like a slap in the face.

        • MrTusks

          The shortest street in the worst neighborhood.

    • Paul Dietzel

      Same era when “e pluribus unum” changed to “in god we trust'”

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        That change was a damned shame. E Pluribus Unum is so much nobler and reflective of the ideal of our nation.

  • Everrett Fanuelli
  • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

    How many millions of trumpers watching sportsball on TV do you think jump up and put their hands over their hearts for the anthem? I can’t imagine even one doing it, unless they thought someone was watching.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      While my ex always used to stand up and salute when he saw that FBI anti piracy thing on video cassettes, but that was meant sarcastically.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      They’re still in the kitchen filling up their plate, possibly squeezing out one last fart before kickoff.

  • Nounverb911
  • Nounverb911
    • GreenGoldSharpie

      He’s really fucking desperate.

      • Joe Beese

        Next week: South Atlantic League champions the Delmarva Shorebirds.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      How many Russian players do the Penguins have?

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        I know Malkin for sure.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          Malkin…the prototype for the “anchor baby.”

      • Nounverb911
        • Latverian Diplomat

          Americans love immigrant hockey players, like goalie Juan Valdez…

      • Ωbjectifier

        Only 15 of the 39 players are American.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Sucky team visits with sucky president.

    • wait! what?

      “Please to inform!?”

      Your Russian tweet bot is showing, Donald.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Thank god my team visited Clinton twice and Dubya only once.

    • Toledo Window Box

      Reminds me of the inauguration, when he couldn’t get any names to show up either.

    • TJ Barke

      Only the worst people in America support you, Donnie.

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        …and the Penguins.

    • The Wanderer

      I was going to say something about boarding, but no.

    • Daniel

      He likes penguins. They keep black and white separate.

    • ltmcdies

      so he gets to have a bunch of Canadians, Swedes, and one Russian roll their eyes at him.

      https://www.nhl.com/penguins/roster

    • Spurning Beer

      He’ll be welcoming WWE Universal Champion wrestler Brock Lesnar to the White House next week.

    • Professor Fate

      give this a bit of time…

  • Latverian Diplomat

    This just in: Trump scrimmages with NFL players, ends up with a mouthful of turf.

    • Nounverb911

      He’s the tackling dummy?

      • Latverian Diplomat

        One of the few jobs he’s overqualified for…in the sense of being more of a dummy than is strictly necessary.

      • proudgrampa

        His weight is about right.

      • Ωbjectifier

        Underqualified.

  • proudgrampa

    Like Ed Asner, I will bend the knee if somebody helps me up.

  • Panika MCD

    OT : mother fucker.

    Cornyn could not find anyone to primary Ted Cruz and has now endorsed him. boo.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/09/24/cornyn-says-hes-backing-cruz-re-election/

  • Mr. Blobfish

    please to explain: is he the king of orange diapers or an orange king of diapers?

    • bubbuhh

      He orange at both ends.

    • natoslug

      Yes.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Panika MCD

      “no fuckin’ the woods!” ~ CJ

    • The Wanderer

      LOL

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “I knew it!”
      — End times Niburu guy

    • tehbaddr

      Dogs and cats humping in the woods, mass hysteria! Wait wut?

    • george lastrapes

      That cat was obviously begging for it, coulda clawed th dawgs face, climbed th tree. And don’t give me that ‘roofies in the Meow Mix’ BS.

  • tehbaddr

    I used to play Foosball, it was the only sportball game I could stand to participate in! Also, too!

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Fewer head injuries than football, fewer eye injuries than tiddlywinks?

      • natoslug

        But more carpal tunnel syndrome than masturbation.

        • tehbaddr

          Yeah them push pull shove shots really did get on the wrist, now fapping…

          • natoslug

            I miss having a foosball table in the office. Not enough to start going into an office, mind you, but I still miss it (the foosball table, not the office. They make you wear pants when you go into the office rather than work remotely, and I am not having any of that, dammit!).

          • tehbaddr

            They make you wear pants at work!!?1!??1!/!/!?!?!?!! WTF!!111!!!

  • memzilla Ω

    I dream of a country where school teachers make a tenth of what sportsball players do.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      We already do if you count arena league salaries.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    If I may be permitted a general note of skepticism about this whole thing – I’m all for protest, but this one is rather open-ended, idnit? I mean, given that police shootings are an unfortunate part of the job, and one can’t always tell when a shooting was justified…. see where I’m going with this?

    EDIT: The anti-Trump aspects of the current kneelings, however, are unquestionably a good thing.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      Too many black people are killed in suspicious circumstances yet police are rarely held to account. It leads me to conclude that either there are a tremendous amount of black people who deserved to die, or there is something wrong with a mentality and system that almost always finds their killing justified. Given what we have learned from FBI investigations of some police departments, I tend to think some if not many of those killings are due to the latter.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Well yes! No doubt about that. What I mean is, there’s no bright-line objective; Police shootings won’t ever stop entirely, and almost no police shootings are beyond suspicion. So when are the protests supposed to stop?

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          People will always protest when they feel injustice has been done for whatever reason. We can hope that when people believe that justice on balance is served, widespread protest movements will decline.

          • Lance Thrustwell

            Well that’s true enough. I’m certaintly not against ’em.

      • bupkus231

        “…a mentality and system that almost always finds their killing justified.”

        Even more than the perception that there are more police shootings, that’s the part of this that’s hurting us all. This CNN piece from earlier in the year cites a study that says there’s about 1000 police shootings of civilians a year – but from 2005 to earlier this year ( 12 years ) , only about 80 policemen were even charged with crimes for these shootings – and of those, only about 35% were convicted ( the remaining were either exonerated or their cases are still pending ).

        Link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/us/police-involved-shooting-cases/index.html

        So, of 12000 shootings, only 2/3 of 1 percent were even charged – and only 28 officers ever convicted of a crime associated with a shooting.

        28 instances out of 12000 shootings – It’s no fucking wonder that most people believe that cops get away with murder.

    • Christopher Story

      I’ve said this before:
      Every police shooting is unconstitutional. It is by definition an extra judicial summary execution for a petty crime. This violates the 4th amendment protection, the right to due process of law. Which, in it’s essence is “innocent until found guilty in a court of law.” A summary police execution violates that right and constitutional protection.

      The 8 amendment, of course, is protection from cruel and unusual punishment. This is why the courts can’t sentence a person to capital punishment for a petty crime, even major ones like attempted murder. Any extra judicial summary execution for a petty crime by a law enforcement officer is wrong, and so for me the line is incredibly bright:

      1 police shooting is 1 too many and this shouldn’t stop until there are no more police shootings anywhere, ever.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Well wait a minute. If it’s “execution” for a “petty crime”, of course that’s wrong, and unconstitutional. But when a cop claims he thinks he sees a gun being drawn, for instance, the nature of the initial crime is beside the point, right?

        This is not a blanket defense of police shootings; I just find your characterization a little… straw-manny? But maybe I’m misunderstanding.

        • Christopher Story

          Even the guy “drawing a gun” is still a protected citizen of the United States of America and still entitled to all the protections of the US Constitution. Besides, it’s not like it’s impossible. Your entire premise is erroneous.

          “Iceland Grieves After Police Kill Man For The First Time In Its History”

          https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-12-03/iceland-grieves-after-police-kill-man-first-time-its-history

          • Lance Thrustwell

            It’s not like what’s impossible? Sorry, losing track of yr argument.

            Also: what premise? I’m really just asking questions.

          • Serai 1

            I think CS means it’s not impossible to deal with someone without killing them, even if they’re drawing a gun. The bottom line is that cops SIGN UP FOR THIS when they take the job. It’s part of a policeman’s job to risk their lives. If they’re going to be so paranoid and terrified that they can’t think straight enough to avoid MURDERING people just because they’re feeling antsy, then they really shouldn’t be applying for the job in the first place.

          • Lance Thrustwell

            Oh. Well, I can certainly agree with that!

      • 3V3

        Unfortunately this is an ideal, not a practical solution. Clinging to ideals is part of what got Trumples elected.

        As much as you and I and likely most of this country would like to see police shootings end, that just isn’t reality. To enact real change I believe that we should focus on what we CAN correct (training, systemic racism, hiring practices, etc..).

        I’ve been personally affected by police shootings and gun violence in general, by the way. I’ve thought about this ever since my close friend was gunned down at a house party 10 years ago. This is not something that I take lightly. I want to see change, but clinging to ideals and absolutes is not the way to do it.

    • What is bad about the police shootings we’re seeing is that many of these are in situations that not all that long ago, would never have been handled by shooting. Someone’s waving a knife, a pipe, etc.? Someone having a psychotic episode? Just clear an area around them, and wait them out. But it seems – particularly if that person is black or Hispanic – the police response these days is “shoot first, ask questions later.”

      • Lance Thrustwell

        You think it’s gotten worse? That’s interesting. Maybe you’re right. Me, I thought it was just that more were being caught because of phone cams.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Right, police shootings cannot be stopped entirely. But police are now being trained to shoot first, there are trainings that encourage them to use deadly force more often. So we’re training cops to shoot in situations where it really isn’t necessary to keep them safe. That’s part one of the problem that can be addressed.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Latverian Diplomat

      Somebody is asking for a National Anthem mooning (with locked arms) I guess?

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      So Trump is implying that he’s responsible for the arm locking.

      • Serai 1

        Nah, he’s just attempting to cover his ass. If the protest had been people locking arms in the first place, he’d have bitched about that. He’s just desperate to salvage his popularity, so he’s gonna move the goalposts (pun intended) as much as he can.

    • BosGrl

      OH. DEAR. GOD.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The stupid. It burns.

    • Serai 1

      Honestly, if it had been me, I wouldn’t have chosen kneeling for a protest. I would have simply turned my back and remained standing. There’s too much religious connotation to kneeling, to say nothing of kneeling in the presence of royalty, etc.

    • bbayliss

      HA! What a dick.

  • Panika MCD

    the ethics panel at TribFest had mean words for POTUS. even Ken Starr–who I’m not sure entirely understands ethics given his years of investigating one blow job and then years of covering up several sexual assaults at Baylor–thinks POTUS is in deep doo doo.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/09/23/former-top-ethics-official-says-he-fought-good-fight-i-could-make-trum/

    they also too said that Republicans should take to the streets with us if Mueller is ever fired.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      TribFest? I’m down with that.

      • The Wanderer

        Tribbing is winning!

      • Panika MCD

        it’s a big politics conference in Austin put on by The Texas Tribune. it’s a pretty big deal.

      • Panika MCD

        Walter Shaub was on the panel and talked about all the bullshit he was put through by his orangeness.

  • Nounverb911
    • little miss high and mighty

      The Great Hymn to Anacreaon!
      A thing of drink and ecstacy and old, weird times around the keg.
      We do not for the life of us know why this fine, fine song is not uncoditionally embraced by our subversive, fun-loving commrades- who would prefer something more popularly relevent.
      What is more relevent than Aacreon and drink and ecstacy?
      F.S.Key was anticipating the revelry after final victory against boredom and inertia.Bring in the new- but first get us Baltimore’s finest drink!
      Rockets bursting and bombs and note tht are a challenge.
      So, like practice! just like you learned to drive or learned your IT skills, if any.
      Just pick a low key and practice this great song.
      Forget that alternative they bring up all the time- schmalz and ladee dah.
      The Star Spangeld Banner is THE song.
      Let it be ours- all of us.
      Now, the knee-taking goig on. we take that nee with you,Colin and brothers-
      We sing as we take the jnee.
      Singing would be an important compoinent to this protest.Sing out, protesters!

  • Amelia Resists and Persists

    ME: Oh, football players are telling Trump to go fuck himself en masse, awesome! Maybe this will be a nice day for me to scroll through the news.

    *opens RawStory*

    RAWSTORY: “One killed and six injured at a church”
    “LGBTQ students told to kill themselves at a school function”
    “Florida gov deleted the calls from the nursing home where eleven died after Irma”

    ME: Nevermind.

    • That will teach you to go to Raw Story…

      Stay here, we give you a break until Monday.

    • The Wanderer

      I just try to remind myself that:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD3F7J2PeYU

    • Panika MCD

      maybe find a different news aggregator? RawStory is not known for understatements.

    • ExpatGirl

      Depressing rage porn is Raw Story’s wheelhouse.

  • VirginiaMorningBlend

    This slight to the Steelers shall not go unyelled about. They won’t even be on the field until after the anthem is done! We gots yur Steele curtain right here for ya pal!!

  • KatieAnnieOakley

    Well done, Shy! SEAHAWKS, Zorn & Largent FOREVA!!!

  • Thorn Spike

    Steve Largent may have been good at sportsball, but as a politician, his positions (hompohobic, anti-abortion, christianist) were deplorable, to say the very least. Oklahoma dodged a major bullet when he lost the governor’s race to Brad Henry, and his tenure in Congress was mercifully short.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Yup. His political positions are appalling.

  • JD Mulvey

    Good thing the right wing is consistent… Remember when they all condemned Tim Tebow?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c1451cd9a799e5302be1c414259cc383b9aeed343425cf0b835c01418f74ff4.jpg

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      White, Christian, Republican…a fine young man!

      • Villago Delenda Est

        As opposed to those filthy melanin-surplus types.

  • Nounverb911

    White House reporter to take a knee?
    https://twitter.com/MattNegrin/status/911993758631317504

    • Serai 1

      Um, I’m not sure kneeling in Trump’s presence is the message you want to give…

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    So, I see Trump’s shitty, brain dead minions don’t limit their meme spewing to just Facebook. I just clicke don his twitter to see the stupidity, and it was pathetic in a diaper baby way.

  • When Terry Bradshaw is almost the voice of reason…

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Yo, Joe Walsh (not the rock star), so how are those child support payments coming along?

    • The Wanderer

      Life’s not been good to him so far.

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    Still the most accurate representation of my views on our own side of the fence, and she’s trans to boot. We are teh smart types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuN6GfUix7c

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Hey…wait a minute…it’s the 24th, and the world has not ended!

    Another prophet proven to be a moran.

    • BosGrl

      I still feel fine!

      • Bub, the cynical zombie
        • armed_bears

          Maybe the only thing to miss about the ’80s….

        • BosGrl

          Lost mine a looong time ago.

    • The Wanderer

      ‘Tis a pity that I didn’t take any bets on this. I could have made some easy money.

    • Serai 1

      Every time this happens I remember that dude in Japan who predicted the world ending – I think it was about ten years ago, maybe? Well, it didn’t, and guess what happened? HE APOLOGIZED. Said he must have been wrong, and he was amazed, but he was sorry he got everyone riled up. Could’a knocked me over with a feather when I read that.

    • Vel Venturi

      Or HAS IT???!??

  • CO
    • Dude, Richard, it wasn’t even in the fine print… It was right there, in bold, 24pt type.

      This is exactly what you signed up for…

      • The Wanderer

        Maybe he was busy having his toenails done when he signed up.

      • CO

        True sadly people what they wanted to see in him. A Rorschach test basically.

      • Well, Rex has always had trouble seeing the subtle hints… like most of his players being publicly against Trump because he was a racist fuck. You know, subtle things like that.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        Trump was supposed to dog whistle- not use a bullhorn.

      • everstar

        Who could have known that face-eating leopards ate so many faces?

    • TJ Barke

      WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS SORT OF THING COMING BESIDES EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN!?

    • Serai 1

      YES YOU FUCKING DID YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE

      • RocketManCaptainHowdy

        He did indeed.

  • bubbuhh
    • The Wanderer

      Until he ran into the Cabin Boy.
      “The cabin boy was chipper
      He was such a plucky nipper
      He filled his ass
      With broken glass
      And circumcised the Skipper.”

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        It was on the good ship Venus
        My God you should have seen us
        The figurehead
        Was a whore in bed
        The mast a giant penis.

        The captain of this lugger
        Was a mighty bugger
        He wasn’t fit
        To shovel shit
        From one place
        To Another.

        • The Wanderer

          The first mate’s was Handy
          By Christ he was a dandy
          Till we crushed his cock
          With a jagged rock
          For cumming in the brandy!
          Friggin in the riggin
          Friggin in the riggin
          Friggin in the riggin
          There was fuck-all else to do!

          • Finnibar87

            John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, on top of his hat was particularly ill.

          • The Wanderer

            Plato, they say, could stick it away
            Half a crate of whiskey every day

  • “They’re saying ‘Boo-urns!’, Mr. President.”

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    You know, I don’t normally watch football, and I sort of am not watching now, but it’s all that’s been on my TV all day :)

  • tehbaddr

    Time for one of the great equalizers in life. Laundry. 8^(

    • The Wanderer

      Thank you for the reminder. I must launder clotheses when I get home from the workplace.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Just turn ’em inside out!

        • tehbaddr

          /Shudders

      • tehbaddr

        Yup, can’t go around stinking like a hobo with piss dribbling down one’s leg. Leaving a series of one sided footprints on the sidewalk! I observed this many years ago in Manhattan, right footprints for blocks, then I caught up to the poor fellow, it was in the Bowery circa mid 80’s.

      • therblig

        i just had to throw my sneakers in the wash because i had to spray roach killer in one of them for one of the fuckers that took up residence over night. my guess is that it was escaping from noko marie, the mighty huntress of water bugs, the first of her name.

    • wait! what?

      I sent this to my niece and she refolded every t-shirt she could find in her house.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/db429403f29bef313e11e0bbcccb4f06d1d46b031980588be4f0f24b99acddf5.gif

      • Serai 1

        I cannot for the life of me figure out what that person is doing. I need steps and an explanation, because that’s too blurry and it assumes too much.

        • wait! what?

          Do you have a niece? They can figure out anything.

        • wait! what?

          PS
          I got “The Woman’s Bible” and barely made it through the beginning because of all of the rage-strokes.

          • Serai 1

            ? Because of the bible verses or because of the commentary?

          • wait! what?

            Because of what she went through with her dad; him wishing it had been her instead of her brother in the funeral parlor, etc.

          • Serai 1

            Ah, yes. I totally sympathize with her. I grew up with that kind of shit poured on my head, too. It’s not nice to say, but I’ve grown to seriously hate my father. He’s an abusive narcissist who thinks the entire world revolves around him, nobody knows anything but him, and gets joy from making those around him feel like shit.

        • little miss high and mighty

          backwards, again on the gif?

          • Serai 1

            Still won’t help. The movements are too fast.

        • everstar

          Looks like you grab one bit, then another bit, then you warp space and time, and voila, you’ve folded your shirt.

          • Serai 1

            Meh, it’s not worth the hassle of figuring it out. I can fold a shirt quite nicely quickly enough. I don’t put THAT much of a premium on five and a half seconds of time.

        • Querolous
      • Charles Insandiego

        That looks just as impossible as folding fitted sheets.

  • ExpatGirl

    From rednecks swearing to never buy another Stevie Wonder cd to snowflakes burning their NFL shirts, Twitter has been a hoot of apoplectic racist outrage.

    • The Wanderer

      Poor widdle snowflakes.

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        After this mass meltdown, they’re Raindrops.

    • Finnibar87

      There has been a run on exclamation points, and Twitter is running out of that shit.

    • JohnBull

      Just wait two months and they have to suffer through “have a good holiday!”

      • PersianOregano

        My starbucks cup this morning was unexpectedly orange, I tried to parse the meaning of that to wingnutters but I got nuthin

      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        For 2017, my greeting will be “Serenity Now!” I agree with Frank Constanza. We need to bring back old Josh Whedon TV shows.

    • wait! what?

      I guess “Songs in the Key of Lowlifes” isn’t going to happen, then.

  • armed_bears

    This is not the Joe Walsh I like.

  • Nounverb911
    • Panika MCD

      also too: more USCG. they have some practice at this.

    • Finnibar87

      I love me some Jessica Williams.

      Love her podcast ‘Two Dope Queens’ too.

    • Christopher Story

      My real President. Of course, given Trump’s Clinton Derangement Syndrome, she may have just killed them all.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      Ok Hillary, we know you are competent. You can stop the show boating. After all, its only 3 hurricanes leaving millions of US citizens displaced and without electricity. A nut case with nuclear bombs threatening to attack the US and Mexico having had several large earthquakes and hurricanes. Its not as if there were something more import to focus on than who is kneeling during a football game.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      She should make a habit of this and use #IfIWerePOTUSThisIsWhatI’DBeDoing #You’reWelcome

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • JohnBull

    Maybe I’m reading red state America’s anger wrong; maybe we should feel sorry for them. After all, They’re richer, whiter, louder, luckier, and more dominant than anyone else on the planet; they control two-thirds of the states and our entire federal government and do all they can to keep the rest of us in despair while enriching themselves further. With all that, tiny displays of freedom that black people shouldn’t have in the first place would make me crazy, too.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      A lot of upper class bored entitled white retirees in gated communities. Somehow the NYT never interviews them, but I know a few.

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    It is so very easy to wave a flag. It’s easy to sing a song about America. It’s easy to recite pledges you learned in first grade. It’s easy to run your mouth, sing songs, and wave shit. Put your patriotism where your fucking mouth is, and lift up your fellow citizens any way you can, starting with not participating in electing obvious monsters to the highest offices in the land. Patriotism requires action. Anything else is just empty, useless hypocrisy.

    • JohnBull

      To quote George Carlin, “leave symbols to the symbol-minded.”

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    • Tiffany de Houston

      Well said, Ms MLG!

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        Thanks!

    • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • therblig
      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        But just think of all the American kids who will get a quality education because I hung some fake nads from my truck!

        • OutOfOrbit

          that is a “teaching” example: one ball’s bigger than the other so it is sick and needs to be cut out NOW!

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Hand me that rusty knife, I’m going in!

          • Jonny On Maui

            *shudder*

        • HooverVilles

          At the risk of being repetive I am going to say it again because it is so true.
          Using one of he who should not be mentioned’s own highly educated best words: SAD!

      • Jonny On Maui

        I don’t know whether to salute or shit myself…

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        I wonder how many of these are hanging from the trucks of people who rage about “disrespecting the flag.”

      • Erala Contratista

        I got summa dem! They were a surprise present.
        I was surprised.
        Don’t have the truck anymore, tho….:-(

      • schmannity

        Red, white and blueballs.

      • nightmoth

        NO!—–just–no. (facepalm)

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      It was some conservative who wrote a book about 10 years ago how hyper patriotism and hyper religious behavior were a symptom of declining empires- compared us to the Victorian Age Brits. Can’t remember the author though.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      Sing it, Mrs. MLG!

    • OutOfOrbit

      where doz a cowardly draft/tax/honesty dodger get off critisizing anybuddy?

    • msanthropesmr

      Commie.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      And that is one of the characteristics of modern American conservatism. They pretend that having a successful democratic society can be easy. Their understanding of what it actually takes is completely facile. They refuse to recognize that it takes hard work, and that sometimes there are difficult, unpleasant problems and situations that must be faced. That inclusiveness, understanding and tolerance are essential elements of a society, and cannot simply be dismissed by impugning the patriotism or motives of those who force them to face problems and injustices they prefer to ignore because acknowledging them would threaten to vitiate their worldview – one of racism, misogyny, religious fervour and a twisted political/economic ideology.

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        THIS!

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        wellll, that almost sounds like being married!..to, like…youknow…300million other people…..

      • King Beauregard

        Fully agreed, with the additional caveat that those of us on the Left also need to take a good hard look at ourselves and make sure we’ve really got the high solution:problem ratio we assume we do. We all could do a little better, some more than others.

      • grindstone

        It used to be easier. White guys picked one or the other white guy, and even if your white guy didn’t win, it was still just another white guy in office. Now, they and we, have skin in the game.

    • TundraGrifter

      So many mouth-breathing Regressives want everybody to “honor” the American flag – but they have forgotten (or they never knew) what that flag really stands for.

    • CeeQ

      Thank you well said

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        :)

    • Jacob DiCiaula

      Or, at the very least, put on a uniform. Notice neither Gen. Kelly nor Gen. Mattis have said anything, but the wall street banker who wanted a private jet for his honeymoon can tell us about patriotism.

  • JD Mulvey

    Outrage!! Why don’t these people respect our flag and our national anthem???!?!

    It’s a well-known fact that I always pause drinking my big beer and remove my cheese hat and “we’re Number 1” styrofoam finger when the “Star Spangled Banner” is playing, unless I’m out back taking a piss of course.

    • Panika MCD

      you can’t piss and salute at the same time? you need to work on your multitasking. Townes Van Zandt once flagged down a cab while pissing in the street, smoking a cigarette and drinking out of a 5th of bourbon. surely you can do 2 things at once if he can do 4.

      • Notreelyhelping

        A cab? I thought Townes was a desparado waiting for a train.

        Oh, that was Guy Clark. Nevermind.

        • Panika MCD

          it happened outside of the Hole in the Wall on Guadalupe.

  • anon_the_great

    Oh Shy, are you a victim of Ground Chuck too?

    • Trivia Fact: I once played a game of Tecmo Bowl against Curt Warner, before his knee blew out. I won.

      • Trivia Fact: I once egged Brain Bosworth’s house*.

        *The house he bought on Clyde Hill after being drafted by the Hawks. I have no evidence that he ever resided there, but I egged it, nonetheless.

  • stumpknocker

    supporting trump is disrespecting our country’

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    Y’know, what has happened to masculinity in this country? It used to be that being masculine meant being cultured, the ability to express your emotions, having an understanding of literature and poetry.

    Now all that’s all “faggy” and sitting around in your boxers drinking shitty beer (Okay, I’m drinking Bud Select, so I take back this judgement) and screaming about those uppity ni-lucky rich boys and those faggot queers on either Coast.

    Jesus.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i am a straight guy & i’d rather have a beer with any of the queers i know than any of the straight guys (certain family and present company excepted).

    • JohnBull

      No kidding. It’s amazing to see how many Trumpers complain about the lack of masculinity in this country while taking prescriptions for erectile dysfunction.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Doesn’t beer have estrogen in it?

        • calliecallie

          If it doesn’t, perhaps it should.

    • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

      Modern manly is combining pizza, cheeseburgers and a pound of bacon in one fucked up-looking half-stew and spilling half of it over your dirty white-paint-stained jeans as you try to eat it while pulling donuts with a Ford pickup truck over a bunch of rocks for no apparent reason to the sound of country music played on a steel guitar. At least according to marketing. It’s pretty fucking stupid, I’d say.

  • Panika MCD

    Chris Hayes is tall. never knew that before. this comes from friends of mine that got photos with him at TribFest. I feel even shorter now.

    • Christopher Story

      5′ 5 1/2″ here
      And yes, I insist on the 1/2. But what’s funny is, I never realize how short I am until I am standing in a crowd of people all 6 feet tall.

      • Panika MCD

        at my last health checkup, I was told I could call myself 5’2″ because I guess I grew about half an inch in my 20s to be 5’1and3/4″, but it feels weird. I still say I’m 5’1″.

        • GreenGoldSharpie

          Still growing?

          The ole E took an inch off my height and a shoe size off my feet. No bone changes, but muscular changes can do wonders. :-)

          • BosGrl

            That’s so interesting! Pregnancy changed my shoe size, too, but I assume it’s because foot bones widen when knocked up.

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            It’s actually nice because 10.5 is usually the women’s shoes cut off size.

            I now can wear 10s, which are pretty common in most shoe stores. :-)

          • BosGrl

            That’s great. Awesome also for Marshall’s and TJ Maxx, because they usually have great shoes in the smaller and larger sizes. Also Saver’s. I always see barely-worn shoes I love in the 9-1/2 to 10 range.

        • OutOfOrbit

          i happen to like compact models

        • Christopher Story

          You’re an action figure! But seriously, even when I’m around tall people, I don’t feel short so much as, everybody else is freakishly tall.

          • Panika MCD

            there’s a certain gravitas that most elected officials have. TX State Sen. Don Huffines just doesn’t fucking have it. it’s bizarre because you know he’s not the only short person, but he seems like a strange, itty bitty, angry man in makeup performing for an unknown audience most of the time.

            EDIT: recognizing how I jumped to that thought may not be clear.

          • BosGrl

            At 5’1/2″, I think you would tower over me.

          • Christopher Story

            Lol, what a funny juxtaposition that would be!

      • OutOfOrbit

        i know from experience that outside of certain sports and stocking store shelves, the only guys who benefit from tallness just ain’t got nuttin else goin’ for’em

        • Jonny On Maui

          6’2″ and say what?

          • wutsupshorty?

          • Jonny On Maui

            Still livin’ in a 5’6″ world…

          • OutOfOrbit

            and how has excessive height benefited you?

          • Jonny On Maui

            Well, let’s just say that the salt mines liked tall white veterans.

            Trying to find a desk that fit in school, much less a left handed one…

          • OutOfOrbit

            and your even a lefty TOO?!!!

          • Jonny On Maui

            Southpaw and proud!

          • OutOfOrbit

            mee too. i right with my left & fap with my write

        • Christopher Story

          Apparently, this is true in my case. According to my Beautiful and some research we did on the matter. I didn’t believe it until I saw the numbers; I really thought she was just stroking my ego.

          • OutOfOrbit

            nope not just strokin’yuh. & it seems most chicks ain’t really into body-builders — buff bod’s, yes — but not muscle-bound

        • 3V3

          6’8” and…shit, yeah you might be right. I legit got my first job because I could reach the boxes on the high shelves.

  • Paul Dietzel

    Shy – In your tribute to all things Seattle sportsball you forget the Storm.

    • The Storm? I moved to Montana in 91, so only teams that pre-date that got included in my programming.

  • therblig

    i thought kneeling was a sign of respect, according to omarosa?

  • notaten

    I thought Howie Longs remarks on the sportsball pre game show were pretty
    good also. Don’t know how to link things on my tablet, but to paraphrase, he talks about how the whole protest started over inequality and we need to remember that too.

  • Joe Beese
  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Speaking of classy black dudes wearing brightly colored outfits:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a24fa32d8fb93fa376da9ae4d4fd8e772076e74b38431373c22f521d4efcb970.jpg

    Seen in Brooklyn this afternoon; we were at Floyd Bennett Field, which is out by Jamaica Bay. Otherwise, seen in New York State approximately never.
    (Hint: it’s a black bird with a yellow head.)

    • Finnibar87

      Some may call him a ‘gold finch’.

      And how delightful! Seeing cool birds is one of life’s joys.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Not a finch – those guys are a dime a dozen. This is a true rarity on the East Coast.

    • little miss high and mighty

      big time singers, like blackies, right?

    • TJ Barke

      My Book of North American Birds shows their range not going further east than Wisconsin, so yes, that is quite a rarity.

    • Red Bird

      Wow. Beautiful.

    • ahughes798

      Yellow-Headed Blackbird? I’d say let the Cornell Lab of Ornithology know where you saw it, etc. They can always use the information regarding range, etc., if that’s what this is. They make a rather weird sound during mating and nesting season.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg
    • BosGrl

      Oh.

    • Christopher Story

      Oh God, it’s an international slap fight.
      “I know you are but what am I?”

    • Lord Jim

      At first that looked like “good luck with his bra”, and I was all “I don’t need to know about this shit!”

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Predisent Pussy Grabber wants people fired for being politically incorrect.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/912018945158402049

    Dumbass.

    Land Shark says, “I always like to see citizens express their rights. He chose to stand for the anthem. Others, as a protest, chose not to. This their right as citizens of the US. I don’t necessarily like it, but I’ll always defend their right to say it.”

    • HorseChestnut

      Does he just not understand what’s going on?

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        He really doesn’t operate outside his own sphere. At all. He has no social sense that I can see. He chooses not to see what is going on around him or its effects on others.

        He is a dumbass also too.

      • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

        I doubt he understands. He has a shallow and superficial knowledge of issues.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          “knowledge” implies facts not in evidence.

      • Phried Ω

        This man has one motivation, being the center of attention. He’s achieved his goal. He has no reference to good attention vs. bad attention. I think it was here in Wonkette someone opined that he was the 8-year old invited to someone else’s birthday party who started throwing cake at the kid next to him.

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        Yes. That answer applies to Trump at all times.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Dotard says what?

    • Rick Hill

      Gawdamn he’s even trying to coopt the protest against him

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      In a way, I have grown to like his one-trick-pony-ness in that everything comes down to ratings. Its just so simpleminded and so amoral. But it does raise the question of wether he will tout the high ratings for the live coverage of his impeachment when the whole world watches.

  • RocketManCaptainHowdy

    Dan Helmer for Congress (Virginia). Got some Chris Evans goofy-sexxeh going on. Likey.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b8adffa1c9c43d61d66a7e7fbec9b42807a6db2ced3fbf3d0c801fa14837d14b.png

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • Tiffany de Houston

      That’s awesome!

  • bluicebank

    To inject perspective into the subject of viewership:

    Trump pointing out that NFL ratings are down (his reason is stupid), belies
    the ratings/attendance decline across the board. NBA television viewership down 14% this year, source Sports Business Journal. MLB viewership is in slow decline, but attendance is strong (MLB’s problem is its fan base average age is 50), source San Diego Tribune. NHL viewership down in the US this year, but up in Canada. Even auto racing:

    NASCARratings plunged 12% over last year alone (Monster Energy NASCAR Cup
    Series, source SportsBusiness Journal). But this isn’t merely another victim of cord cutting. Attendance at this year’s Brickyard 400 at the Indy track was 35,000, one fourth of what it was five years ago (Indianapolis Business Journal).

    Reasons for these declines are all over the map. Sports Illustrated recently blamed NFL’s television viewership decline to “the RedZone channel, Twitter, highlight shows and a hundred fantasy outlets saturating the airwaves.

    OF COURSE, most of TV and cable viewership is down, sports or no. And reasons vary from streaming services to piracy to quality of the broadcast. Or computer game popularity, I suppose.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Some of the kids are into this “going outside” fad.

    • ManchuCandidate

      Or computer game popularity, I suppose.

      Madden ’18?

    • Joe Beese

      Don’t forget porn.

  • exinkwretch

    Seahawks will stay in the locker room during the national anthem before today’s game in Nashville.

  • janecita

    I had to Google Brennan Gilmore because I also didn’t know who the fuck he was, that being said, his grandpa is awesome! He made me miss my own grandpa.

  • Panika MCD

    reposting because I think you guys should read this…when Shrub’s ethics lawyer names a point at which he’s going to be out in the streets protesting also too, it’s worth a look. also has Walter Shaub–the ethics guy that quit-fired himself in July–talking about what it was like to even try to get Tsarina Von Clownstick to follow ethics laws.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/09/23/former-top-ethics-official-says-he-fought-good-fight-i-could-make-trum/

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      David Frum just went full radical, look downthread.

      • Panika MCD

        saw it.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • ltmcdies

    you know I think former Canuck, former Bushie, GOP type is on to something

    https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/911991927091888128

    • Christopher Story

      Stop making me like you! My liver is having a hard enough time coping with my coping with this reality as it is.

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      ooooooh shit

    • TJ Barke

      Oh snap!

      • puredog

        IKR? That’s gonna leave a mark.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      GOT DAMN!!

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    It just occurred to me that foosball, or whatever it’s called, is interesting to me today, for the first time ever! All it took was for it to offend a bunch of old white dudes.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      You’ll be a devoted fan of tight ends in no time!

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        One does not have to like fartbowl to appreciate a nice tight end!

    • foiled again

      Me too- I could not previously have cared less. Now it’s crucial!

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        GO TEAMS!!!!

        • ahughes798

          foiled again, I hate football SO much that I simply cannot watch it for any reason. So boring. So repetitive. So “meh.”

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            It’s awful. It is.

  • Lord Jim

    As usual, Joe Walsh is fucked in the head. The President did not “criticize” protestors – He called for them to be ejected and fired.

    Forget it. FUCK. THIS. ASSHOLE.

    • Christopher Story

      And make him pay his damned child support

      • Lord Jim

        Can I haz kidz, run out on them, and stay out of jail and haz jerb? Kool! When do I start?!

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      I like how he calls them “ungrateful black” .

      Yeah, he’s not even a little racist.

    • Rick Hill

      “Wait, Joe Walsh and the republicans want me to stop watching football because fuck liberals?”

      It’s tough being conservative

    • Daniel

      This is typical GOP/culture warrior tactics- they can’t defend what’s actually being criticised, so they make up something else vaguely similar.

      Protests to raise awareness of police killings of black people becomes “protesting the flag”, complaints about Trump impeding others’ freedom of speech becomes, well, this bollocks.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Right? What a fucking moron. But as usual, facts don’t matter with these assholes.

  • Rick Hill
    • Serai 1

      I recognize this shit. Back in the 80’s, the fucking LAPD was behaving exactly like a fucking gang. They even SPRAY-PAINTED the houses where they arrested people. It was fucking EVIL.

      • Phried Ω

        Try Chicago in ’68.

        • SisterArtemis

          The whole world was watching, or at least a good portion of it. Some things never change.

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    Is Joe Walsh an idiot? Never mind, I know the answer to that. The whole point is that Potus is saying people are not free to take a knee — that they should be fired for taking a knee. Fucking idiot.

    • ahughes798

      I believe it’s also illegal for the president to attack an individual citizen by name, publicly.

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    “As any good, true, and loyal fan does, I nurture a deep and unreasoning hatred for the rivals of my team, and for the stars of those accursed enemy teams.”

    This is silly, because everypony knows the only matter that really merits such passion is the Joel Hodgson vs. Mike Nelson debate.

    • HorseChestnut

      Always Joel. Mike’s a wingnut, makes it hard to like him.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        *shrug* I give him credit for keeping his politics separate from the show.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Joel. Always and forever. Stopped watching when Mike showed up.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        I think that’s unfortunate, because that means you missed Mike’s Captain Janeway impression.

    • everstar

      I watched to the end of the Comedy Central era; Dr. F/Crow was my favorite and I couldn’t watch it without him. That said, most of my favorite episodes are Joel episodes because they’re just more to my taste. (Mike-era humor just seems kind of mean to me now.)

  • foiled again

    Football, baseball, ehhh…now, Top Fuel Drag Racing, that’s a different story.
    My secret hope is that one day RuPaul will get an NHRA license.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Ironically, Predisent Puss Grab usually fires people for NOT getting on their knees for him.

    • Eeeew. Does he supply them with the requisite magnifying glass, or do they have to provide their own?

      • Marion in Savannah

        He supplies the magnifying glass. They have to bring their own tweezers.

    • gallbladder

      What is she, fucking 13?

      • ahughes798

        I wish I could still sit like that, but I can hear my knees exploding for having that wish.

    • SisterArtemis

      I said it at the time, I’ll say it again: feet tucked up under her at a late night Oval office meeting or get together? sure. In front of cameras? No NO NOOOOO!

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      When I first saw that I thought it was photoshopped because who would do that in the Oval Office?

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Of course, the Donald is only whipping up this shitstorm to divert attention from the Russian-y espionagesque activities that form the only core philosophy of his maladministration.

    But, that said, wouldn’t it be fun if people suggested that NASCAR drivers think they are smarter than him?

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      NASCAR drivers ARE smarter than him.

      • Daniel

        I understand they appreciate the professional necessity of veering left.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        A point well-taken.

        Also smarter than Trump: Hot dogs on a stick.

        • Phried Ω

          Unless they are covered in cornmeal.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            I respectfully disagree. Even when positively entombed in a sepulcher of cornmeal, hot dogs on a stick are nevertheless, smarter than Trump.

            And yummier (says Marcus Bachmann.)

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          Also too, rocks and small pebbles.

      • msanthropesmr

        The bacteria that generate my body odor are smarter than him.

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          That’s hot!

      • ahughes798

        I dunno. Dale Earnhardt, Sr. comes to mind. But the rest of them, yeah. Smarter by leaps and bounds.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      I dunno that it’s an intentional distraction- the whole thing started with Dump working the crowd for applause and approval at his Alabama rally, didn’t it?

      • Phried Ω

        He’s proven time and again he is not a strategic thinker or really any kind of thinker. He’s only capable of twitch responses to stimuli.

        • Rebel Scum with permit

          He’s got this kind of reflexive animal cunning that got him where he is- but he’s really nothing more than a one trick pony.

    • Querolous
  • janecita

    And of course Tom “deflated balls” Brady couldn’t even lock arms like a normal person!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a2051f07ceebef9585c375ac01cee05f3bee60952902827d849bb4652cb8746e.jpg

    • I swear Tom Brady is what the Red Skull would look like if he drank a TON of water.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Has anybody noticed or heard reporting about whether people in the stands are cheering, booing, kneeling, locking arms, making the Bellamy Nazi Trump salute or what?

    • Daniel

      At the Patriots game there was booing reported.

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        Booing the national anthem at a “Patriots” game. We’re headed for IronyCon 1

  • Jonny On Maui

    OT: Outside of using our phones as mobile hot spots it’s been almost a year since I’ve had wifi. Why? A couple of reasons, new house, new property, need to run wire and Time Warner Cable (Now Spectrum here. Their motto? “We’ll fuck you over from the infra-red to the ultra-violet!”).

    So anyway we got the wifi and now I’m watching shows again, Netflix, Amazon, etc…

    I have a problem. I’m a binger…

    I grew up on Upstairs Downstairs. Downton Abby is like Bolivian blue flake crystals. I watch until my eyes fall out. Unsolved Mysteries is uncut meth and I expect my teeth to fall out soon.

    “Hi. My name is Jonny and I’m powerless over my SmartTV…”

    • BosGrl

      Hi Jonny. I’m BosGrl and I can’t quit watching Harry Potter over and over, along with episodes of Friends and Frasier that I can recite from memory.

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        I have somehow lost the ability or patience to watch sitcoms. Does that make me a Canadian (oh please, ah please, eh please)?

        • BosGrl

          I can’t watch new ones except Big Bang Theory, which I’ve watched since the beginning. I watch the old ones (especially the really old ’60s and ’70s shows) because I don’t have to pay any attention to them.

    • Doug Langley

      My binge watching of Mythbusters was epic.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      Y’all, it’s so funny. I never thought he would be so into Downton Abbey. He gets super excited when Maggie Smith comes on screen…

      “IT’S THE DOWAGER COUNTESS!!!!”

      So cute!

      • BosGrl

        Maggie steals all the scenes.

        • She always steals all the scenes.

          Someone who also always steals all the scenes? Helen Mirren. We need more movies where those two work together and have steal-offs. But, we only have the one, Gosford Park.

          • BosGrl

            Love Gosford Park!!

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Dammit, now you have me thinking about Helen Mirren. How am I supposed to get any work accomplished around here?

          • Rebel Scum with permit

            It’s not always good to cross the streams.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          I can’t find a clip of it but in the killingly funny comedy A Private Function she delivers the line, “And now sex-u-al in-ter-course,” with the relish of a barracuda in heat. (Michael Palin’s terrified reaction is pretty damn hilarious, too.)

          • BosGrl

            I’ve never seen that movie, so now I have to, especially if it has both Maggie and Michael Palin :D

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          Penelope Wilton holds her own, though – any scene with the two of them is just golden.

          • BosGrl

            Agreed. Those are the best scenes.

      • SisterArtemis

        She’s my favorite *heart sparkle rainbow*

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          What a woman!

    • 3V3

      The secret to Spectrum is A) Only use the internet and B) Never use any of their services. Also don’t call them. Ever.

      • Master Contrail Program

        Never use them after midnight either. My Spectrum wi-fi cuts out for a few minutes to an hour every night at 2 AM.

        • So, don’t feed them after midnight. What are the rules on sunlight?

          • Master Contrail Program

            I can’t speak to that, but I spilled a beer on my router once and it didn’t form new routers with bad(worse) attitudes.

        • Marion in Savannah

          Our Dish TV does the same thing, except at 1:00 AM. But only for about 3 or 4 minutes. (Yeah, sometimes I have trouble sleeping. Why do you ask?!)

    • Hi, Jonny! I recently discovered this drug called, “Lexx”, and I’ve been mainlining it every night for a week.

      • 3V3

        Stanley Tweedle > Donald Trump

    • janecita

      Binge watch “Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries” next! That show is awesome!

    • ltmcdies

      It only took me a day to watch all episodes of Stranger Things….

      I’m not proud of that.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        When the whole Unsolved Mysteries binging started, it was 80s childhood nostalgia. I remembered watching it with my family when I was a little kid, and just had to watch a bit of it. Now, we can’t stop, and I am convinced Bigfoot is a real thing!!

        • And let’s not forget Bullshit or Not?:

          https://youtu.be/O2yVZCVLK3E

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Jack the Ripper was actually the Loch Ness Monster..Hahahaaaa! I would watch the shit out of this show.

          • Its from the movie Amazon Women on the Moon, which is a classic, of some sort, or another.

        • ltmcdies

          Bigfoot, you say.

          I think they just grow BC cannabis these days.

        • ahughes798

          Bigfoots are bears with mange, the poor things. Why do none of the people trying to prove it exists ever use dogs to track it? Why do they never find hair, or feces, or wobbly little Bigfoot babbies?

          • Arolpin

            You would think with a HUGE percentage of the population carrying around really good cameras all the time, we would finally get some good proof of Nessie, Bigfoot, and all the other legends of crypto-zoology. I guess those creatures are too smart for us, and are hiding just to mess with out minds.

    • janecita
    • SisterArtemis

      “Downton Abby is like Bolivian blue flake crystals.”
      Yep.

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      I’m with you on Downton Abbey. I would walk over broken glass to get to an episode.

      My first binge was on The West Wing. I skipped yoga class and any social life just to head home and watch hours and hours of it.

    • arcessita

      Downton Abbey amazes me. It has plotlines that sound boring on the surface — “Lady Violet loses her letter opener!” “Alfred takes a cooking class!” “Mrs. Patmore is having trouble seeing!” — and I’m like MUST SEE TV!

  • WeaselPoo

    OT 1dead 6 wounded in Nashville at church gunman in custody. Just an ordinary day in USA..

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      Shit!

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

      Radical Christian terrorism?

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    You know what’s very disrespectful to the American flag and US Constitution?
    -The confederate flag
    -The Nazi flag
    -Accepting offers of clandestine election assistance from hostile foreign espionage agencies

    • Phried Ω

      This.

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Hiring Russian hookers to pee on the President’s bed.
      Saying Nazis are very fine people.
      Threatening to jail political opponent.
      Firing FBI Director to obstruct justice.

      • HooverVilles

        So much winning!

    • Rachel Book Harlot
    • Canis Greyhame

      A walking desecration inviting top Russian diplomats spies into the Oval Office, only to blurt-out highly classified information that had been shared with the U.S. by Israeli intelligence services?

    • Raan

      Talking about secret information at your unsecured fucking golf club where anyone can walk up.and overhear.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Trying to publicly shame the grieving parents of a soldier killed while protecting his troops?

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      Ignoring multiple reports of Russian meddling in the election?

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        I get the feeling he isn’t ignoring them so much as hoping if he pretends it’s not a problem, it will go away.

  • Joe Beese
    • Ωbjectifier

      Pro tip – do not try to catch the boomerang.

      • Joe Beese

        Feel Good Trivia: the dog was saved from the pound, trained for the movie, and then adopted by one of the camera operators.

      • TundraGrifter

        I own a Wham O boomerang and that sound advice is stamped into the plastic edge.

    • gallbladder

      Uncanny.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      After civilization collapses, we will still have PR hacks.

      • Joe Beese

        As durable as cockroaches.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        Unless we persuade them all to board the B ark.

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

      A glimpse into both Lyin’ Sean’s and our own post-Trump future.

      • Joe Beese

        Sooner or later every society is led by someone in a studded codpiece.

    • shivaskeeper

      Toadie libulez.

  • Lizzietish81

    Because Packers! was mentioned

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqLhdInGrk

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Sportsball ratings have tailed off a bit.

    Trumpsball ratings have plummeted.

    I’m just saying.

  • Juan de Fuca

    They are standing in solidarity against you, ya bum.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/912018945158402049

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      I’m waiting for one of the so-called “adults” in the room to explain this to him.

      • Juan de Fuca

        I’m considering starting a Twitter account so I can ask him if it’s acceptable to occasionally have a glass of white wine with steak. Am I less of a patriot if I sometimes run late for work and tie my shoes after I get to the parking lot at work, even if nobody’s looking?

        How did we ever get by without getting Trump’s approval on what is/isn’t acceptable in our society?

      • BosGrl

        You’ll have to find a little child. Everyone else is afraid to tell the emperor he has no clothes…

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Doesn’t he have a territory with a population of 3 million without water and power?

      • gallbladder

        Small potatoes compared to his need for mass approval of his wife.

        • RocketManCaptainHowdy

          *ass approval of his daughter

          • gallbladder

            That too also as(s) well.

      • Juan de Fuca

        ^This^

      • JohnBull

        Those three million people didn’t have much power before this.

        • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

          ^^ this is the problem with colonialism.

          We really should make them a state.

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        Exactly! Thank you!

    • JustDon’tSayPeter
    • YayConspiracy

      Kneeling is not acceptable by whose fucking standards?

      • phoenix00

        The white ones.

    • phoenix00

      I don’t think he understands what “ratings” is.

      • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

        I’m sure he assigns “ratings” to the WNBA players who stood with locked arms. It’s just that none of them rated higher than a four. SAd!

        • phoenix00

          He’s more disappointed he can’t just walk into their dressing room.

  • Treg Brown
    • Notreelyhelping

      Cruz lets his Napoleon complex shine through.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      DOTUS doesn’t want to show his tiny little hands so he keeps his arms down. Why does he hate the National Anthem?

  • Jonny On Maui
    • gallbladder

      Extinction-level event or GTFO.

      • wait! what?

        E.L.E, T.L.E, same thing.

    • Marion in Savannah

      So the asshole forgot to carry the 2 after all…

      • gallbladder

        That and rounding down instead of up.

      • natoslug

        I fully understand. Floating point errors are very common in arithmetic if you don’t use the right libraries and pay attention to the significant digits. I recommend he switches to the Decimal package.

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Urgent and pertinent news for a plurality of their audience.

    • TundraGrifter

      For years I’ve been predicting that interest rates have to go up. I just haven’t been right yet.

    • HorseChestnut

      Fake future disasters are always more important than real, current ones.

    • wavicles

      Oh, he was misunderstood.
      He says that HE was misunderstood!
      Ah, yes.

  • Nounverb911

    Someone remind trump that THIS is the oath repeated when being sworn into the military.

    The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted):

    “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

    There’s nothing about a flag in it.

    • wait! what?

      He didnt initial where the blank space is at the beginning, did he?

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Whether this form of protest persists or not, let’s tip our helmets and hats to Colin Kaepernick who had the courage to kneel alone a year ago.

    • BosGrl

      Yes.

    • TundraGrifter

      Remember Curt Flood.

      Remember Joe Kapp.

      Remember Catfish Hunter.

      Remember Glenn Burke.

    • everstar

      I’d get a Colin Kaepernick jersey if I could somehow make sure none of the money went to the NFL and all went to him.

      • suziq

        He has a charity you can probably donate to. Yeah, while he is not working and making no money because of assholes he is DOING GOOD STUFF.

        • everstar

          Ah, I shall make a note. Thanks!

        • Arolpin

          And he is very close to his goal to donate $1million to charity. Which means he’s about $1million ahead of Drumpf. And infinitybillion times better as a person.

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          He’s better off not being in the NFL. Unless a carton of donated goods falls on his head in a warehouse, he probably isn’t at risk for getting a concussion

          • nightmoth

            That reminds me: did ya’ll see that Aaron Hernandez, the NFL player
            who got sent to prison for murder and killed himself, yeah, that guy?–when they did an autopsy it showed he had a high level of brain damage from impact injuries.

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            Nutters will never admit that Hernandez was anything but a thug.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      And if the rumors are true, he’s had a hard time getting a job because of it. So while all this is awesome, I hope there is some self awareness by the NFL as well.

  • ltmcdies

    AWWWHHH…look who used his personal email for work…
    https://twitter.com/DerekCressman/status/912044017470251008

    • BosGrl

      No girl parts, so… nothing to see here!

    • GreenGoldSharpie

      I’m sure it was Hillary’s fault.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        Obvs.

      • Christopher Story

        It was the Deep State Obama chimera soldiers who snuck in while he was sleeping and put drugs in his skin cream to make him a compliant tool in their nafarious agenda to destroy Trump and annoint Hillary Super Empress Queen of the World Forever. Because she’s the one who has to usher in the New World Order for her overlords the Lizard People so we can all be rounded up in the FEMA death camps and rendered down to our base protiens and sold as a commodity to the Grey’s on the Galactic Market.

        Thats why we’re having so many earth quakes and hurricanes. The Illuminati are using their Geo weather weapon satalites to cause a bunch of natural disasters so the Deep State can justify the huge increase in FEMA funding that is totally happening.

        (Wow, I just realized how much time I spend reading the weird parts of the internet)

        • Khavrinen

          I dunno; I can almost believe what you say, but I can’t help but wonder why you’re still trying to cover up the truth about chem-trails and how jet fuel can’t melt steel beams…

          • Christopher Story

            It was all I could say in a single breath.

    • Canis Greyhame

      Oh shit, next thing you know they’ll be trying to acid wash their private servers.
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bb/4a/af/bb4aafc2449c4cf3b3ccaf8663ca0171.jpg

    • BMW

      Multiple choice talking point…

      It’s ok, he should get an exception because:
      A. he didn’t delete them like Crooked Hillary did. (Really, he’s never deleted any emails?)
      B. he wasn’t under investigation by the FBI. (Except…you know…he was and is.)
      C. he wasn’t storing classified information in his email. (There was never any evidence Hillary did, either, except for 3 uses of the letter “c” embedded in the text.)
      D. he didn’t try to delete them after he was subpoenaed.
      (Hillary Clinton didn’t either, but they believe she did because Trump said so.)

      • Arolpin

        I’m sure he has deleted a personal email on that account. Or a spam email. You know, the same stuff that Hillary deleted. (And remember, she was sending emails to US government accounts, and there isn’t a SINGLE EMAIL THAT THE INVESTIGATION FOUND VIA THE OFFICIAL ACCOUNTS THAT WASN’T TURNED OVER BY HILLARY’S TEAM.)

        Again, just so the inbred trolls can understand (I’m an optimist): Hillary only deleted personal, non-work-related, non-government related emails. She turned over ALL the emails that were related in any way to her role as Secretary of State. The investigation certainly had access to all the government email accounts that she interacted with, and if she was trying to hide something, she would have to delete it from the government email servers that received the email (or that sent it to her).

        There have been multiple investigations, and NOT A SINGLE HIDDEN EMAIL HAS APPEARED.

        Also, as for ‘acid-washing’ her email, what that means to those with an IQ above room temperature (in an uninhabited igloo) is that her IT consultants followed proper protocol and used a free, open-source software program called BleachBit that physically over-writes the data multiple times with random data to ensure that it’s very difficult for anyone to recover anything from the disk drives. This is STANDARD procedure for any computer equipment that has restricted information on it, not just classified.

      • phoenix00

        E. he didn’t talk to Russia (Except he did)

    • Walter Wellstone

      Yup. Lock his pansy ass up and give him an orange overall two sizes too big so he looks weak and ridiculous in the prison courtyard.

      • wavicles

        Ya mean weaker n’
        rediculouser… er?

    • OrdinaryJoe

      More fuel for Mueller.

  • BosGrl

    MSNBC: Ted Cruz not supporting Graham-Cassidy…

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Wow.

    • little miss high and mighty

      so, the monster is dead again? for sures again?

      • Canis Greyhame

        I won’t believe it’s really dead until October 1st, maybe not even then.

        • suziq

          After that deadline they can just start again. No big.

          • Canis Greyhame

            McConnell might be just craven enough to kill the filibuster. I wouldn’t put any horrible thing past him at this point.

      • BosGrl

        That guy who ran his campaign is on now saying ding dong the witch is dead.

        • little miss high and mighty

          which ol witch?

          • BosGrl

            LOL – the Wicked Witch!

      • shivaskeeper

        If they don’t get it in by Sep 30 they miss the chance for a 50+1 reconciliation vote. Any other piece of shit like this can and should be filibustered.

        • little miss high and mighty

          a chance to hear a reading of the entire Ulyses- corrected texts and commentary by thousands of Lit. Profs, on skype live from Senate Chambers.
          I hope Franken gets the olly parts at the end!

        • Canis Greyhame

          Come to think of it, is this the only thing they’ve been trying to ram-through using reconciliation?

          • shivaskeeper

            If my understanding of the rules are correct there are three categories they can try to use for reconciliation; spending, revenues, and debt ceiling. They are only supposed to be able to use each one once and only to bring existing legislation in line with the current budget.

            That is why they have to wait for the parliamentarian to weigh in whether the proposed legislation can even be resolved under reconciliation.

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        I wouldn’t trust them. It’s a zombie bill.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        no, they are retooling it this weekend in order to bribe the holdouts

    • gallbladder

      What temperature is it in hell?

      • Parakeetist

        20 below and falling.

      • BosGrl

        Granted, Cruz is not to be trusted, but the campaign guy just said it’s over, the Dems have been fighting to fix O-care and that’s what they should be doing. So yeah, I think hell now has hockey.

        • little miss high and mighty

          with or without icing rules?

          • phoenix00

            I’m in favor of icing, but do keep the two-line pass!

          • Arolpin

            Well, as long as it doesn’t include the center-line. Hockey was almost unwatchable for a while when every breakout would be whistled for a 2-line pass. It’s also one of the reasons the US hockey teams were getting killed in international competition, they never learned to play breakout hockey because of the stupid 2-line pass calls, so they went with dump and chase, which is NOT a good strategy when your team is young college kids against 30-year-old all-but-pro hockey players. Dump and chase is the style you play when you’re bigger and stronger and slower than your opponent.

          • phoenix00

            Yes two-line pass is referring to the centre red line. I’m good keeping offsides even with the litany of (NHL) goals called back the past couple of years due to the coachs’ challenge, linesmen simply need to be on the ball calling those during play (plus rules clarified/changed stating one skate inside the zone vs two skates inside the zone.)

            The NHL game was nigh unwatchable during the NJ Devils Cup runs. Neutral-zone trap + no two-line pass + wall of a goalie even DJT would have paid for = simply awful hockey.

            I’m interested to see if the new slashing and faceoff crackdowns continue into the spring & what effect that will have….

        • gallbladder

          Can we at least get rid of the shoot-out?

          • Arolpin

            Yes, and 3-on-3 should be AFTER a 5-minute 4-on-4 overtime without a goal during the regular season. Play 3-on-3 until 1 team scores.

          • phoenix00

            Maybe AFTER a 30-min OT time limit? I’m sure people at the game would like to get home before 2 AM.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Rapidly approaching absolute zero.

    • Canis Greyhame

      They’re scrambling to “tweak” the bill over the weekend, because desperate, last minute overhauls are such a great idea for legislation that would severely impact 1/6th of the total U.S. economy.

    • Parakeetist

      The wha?

    • Walter Wellstone

      Fuck Ted Cruz.

      • phoenix00

        Agreed, but eww.

    • therblig

      it doesn’t crush the hopes and dreams of enough americans?

      • JustDon’tSayPeter

        No one asked him to co-sponsor?

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        This.

      • RocketManCaptainHowdy

        Every no is a no, even Rand Paul’s.

      • ahughes798

        Exactly.

    • CripesAmighty

      Whoa, if true. Are they turning the spite gene on each other?

    • Spurning Beer

      What a courageous and selfless act!

      Oh wait, you said Ted Cruz?

    • SisterArtemis

      Ted, I totally blame you for the fact that the first place my mind went was, “What the hell is his angle?” Somehow, he’s getting something out of this, or he’d just go along with the GOP crowd.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Ted is a shitweasel. Now that it looks like the bill is going to fail, he has nothing to lose by opposing it.

  • RocketManCaptainHowdy

    Very highly rated and legit.

    “Unidos”: A Hurricane Relief Fund for Hurricane Maria Victims in Puerto Rico
    http://hispanicfederation.org/media/press_releases/a_hurricane_relief_fund_for_hurricane_maria_victims_in_puerto_rico/

    Last item on the donate page is a drop menu to specify cause, it’s a little confusing.

  • Lizzietish81

    So my Trump loving friend has come out of the woodwork to declare that if you “Neil” during the anthem, you are a piece of shit and spit in the faces of our soldiers.

    A soldier told her that that was silly.

    I told her it seems more disrespectful to attempt to shame someone into not exercising their right by parading vets in front of them.

    A propos of Neil:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2tefW2UW6k&t

    • I particularly loved this scene, since at the time I had a MST3K lovin’ friend named ‘Neil’.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      I always find that argument beyond ridiculous. They seem to willingly miss the point that vets fought (and died!) to protect our freedom to dissent and protest injustice.

      • shivaskeeper

        Faux patriotism is supposed to be the trump card in the argument. It is especially used by those who never served.

        Anyone who did serve and make the argument is a dumbass who never learned the right lessons while they served.

    • shivaskeeper

      Tell your friend this old Soldier says they can eat a dick. Your friend does not get to use me as club to score political points. If they want to claim kneeling for the anthem disrespects Soldiers, they can join the fucking Army, serve at least one hitch and then they can bitch about it. But they can only bitch about it disrespecting them personally, because I still support the protest and find no disrespect in in at all.

      • Lizzietish81

        Pretty much what I said.

        She gave me an angry emoji in response.

        • shivaskeeper

          Well, at least you got a clear response with them being able to justify their position logically.

          jk

      • It’s been a while, but the oath you swear on entering is to defend the Constitution. Not a word about the flag at all. So, speaking as a former soldier, I can say that your response is right on the money.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Good lord, that’s a profoundly misogynistic movie.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Is this some kind of “Virginia Wolff” reboot?

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        No, it’s about a woman who commits murder(s) to stay youthful-looking.

    • phoenix00

      Neil libelz!!

    • akryan

      that does touch on something that is pretty pervasive though in our culture. the military has completely co-opted sports. every single time we have a sporting event from an early age, it is expected that there be some show of patriotism and by extension support for the military industrial complex.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Did she actually serve? WTF gives her the right to speak for veterans? She doesn’t speak for me.

  • badtonto

    I’ve usually found professional sports to be some eye rolling, dumbass shit but I tell you what, these professional athletes are rocking my world today! I even got a little bit verklempt!!

    ‘Resistance is not futile’

  • JohnBull

    Does that 97-year-old vet even have a flag bumper sticker on his truck??

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Or truck nutz???

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      He can call anyone he wants a “kid”. So there!

  • Nounverb911

    Meanwhile back in Allahbama, Nigel Flange is campaigning for roy moore along side steve bannon.

    WHY?

    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/912005348722200576

    • Marion in Savannah

      Does he even think anyone in Alabama knows who the fuck he is?

      • little miss high and mighty

        Can he do it? can he ugly up 2 backward empires at the same time?
        Stay tuned- the Brexit negotiations are ot going his way so far so he grabs for the laurels in Blue Law and Sessions Land.
        Did he bring along an interpreter?

      • Phried Ω

        He’s counting on them to continue hoping that British recognition will turn the tide of the war while not telling him he has no role in said government.

        • phoenix00

          Is that someone I see stacking crates of tea in Boston Harbor?

    • Canis Greyhame

      Deplorables Without Borders?

    • Wild Cat

      Why is Moore “controversial”? He seems very much like a mainstream GOP candidate in 2017. Is the Guardian implying all the other lunatics in the GOP are mainstream and he’s an outlier? Why such lazy reportage? It’s not like they publish Thomas Frank or Amy Goodman or Jill Stein . . . /s/

    • TJ Barke

      Something something globalism!

    • Mehmeisterjr

      So who is more Presidential, President Trump or President Bannon? I say, Bannon. What do you think, Trumpy? Share your thoughts in a late-night tweet.

      And who is more of a Russian tool, Trump, Bannon or Farange?

      Well, yeah, all of them are Putin stooges, Katie.

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Of course.
      Have we heard from Julian?

    • Christopher Story

      Son of a bitch! Now they’re just rubbing our faces in foreign influence because they don’t care as long as their side wins.

    • Catstro

      Where my LaRouches at?

      • Arolpin

        Remember when a LaRouchie won the primary for Lt. Governor in Illinois and the winning candidate for Governor, Adlai Stevenson III ran on the Solidarity Party ticket rather than being associated with the LaRouchies? Too bad the Republicans don’t have that much honor.

  • TundraGrifter

    Now we have entire teams just staying in their locker rooms during the National Anthem. Wow!

    • Nounverb911

      Just like college football.

  • Daniel

    OT:

    But his emails.

    Kushner did government business on a private server.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      IT’S MUELLER TIME !!!

      • Viktor

        Javanka only has a job because daddy in law likes him better than his own stupid sons.

    • phoenix00

      LOCK HIM UP

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      IOKIYAЯ

  • A fine documentary for the Wonkette ethnologists and anthropologists, it shows the world as it is, through an afro-centric viewpoint.

    Academicians Unite!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8–cZEq-vwU&feature=youtu.be

    • little miss high and mighty

      what a great link.
      little long in the tooth but still some of this stuff is to be found nowhere else.
      Note. Austria, for all its slef-conscious contrarinism and reactionary self esteem struggle, actually has a model retirement program- with a strong minimum and guidance through the system- much better than even Swizerland’s.
      Going to try to save this link here somehow.
      Really worth the time to view.
      This project was on ORF 3 tv once.

  • ltmcdies

    so Trump is retweeting trolls again….

    https://twitter.com/PeachyCheryl/status/912034826059993100

    • phoenix00

      What A Idiot

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Joe Beese

      Unacceptable! Must apologize!

      • gallbladder

        Sad.

    • JustDon’tSayPeter

      Gotta hand it to ya, Fuckface McClownstick, you sure can unite us.

  • wavicles

    Top marks, Shy.

  • memzilla Ω
    • gallbladder

      Fuckin’ A.

    • phoenix00

      She has been standing this entire time. Her feet must be killing her.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    The photo of the old WWII vet taking a knee is so lovely.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Yeah, that photo of that guy kneeling brought on an onion moment.

      sniff

  • JustDon’tSayPeter

    We love you, too, Shy, and want you to be happy. Does that mean it’s time for a beer?

  • wait! what?
  • AngryNotSoOldHippy .
  • OutOfOrbit

    any tRumpdotard tweatts on whole teams skipping the Nat Anthemum by staying in locker rooms?

  • Spurning Beer

    Steve Mnuchin can bite my flabby spotted white ass, on his own time.

  • OutOfOrbit

    She Who Must Be Obeyed said >30 Bronco players took a knee on field

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    2017 has sucked for a number of reasons, but there have been moments that give us hope.
    The Women’s March,
    The March for Science,
    and now, The Kneeling of Sportsballers.
    Say what you will about sportsballers, most of them are decent people who understand what is what. And not only will they be effective allies, they will inflict *massive* butthurt on the usual suspects. Which isn’t the point, really, it’s more like having dessert before the main course.

    • ltmcdies

      more hope for yah….this was the turnout in Vancouver for the Walk for Reconciliation. First Nations led the way..

      https://twitter.com/charliesmithvcr/status/911999681642639360

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      it’s almost like nobody remembers that prosecuting and incarcerating muhammed ali for protesting an unjust thing made him into one of the most beloved and powerful of sports people ever

  • ltmcdies

    NASCAR is totally against protesting the american anthem and will fire EVERYBODY sitting in those confederate flag waving jalopies who does.

    It’s almost like NASCAR wants some attention today…like every other 3rd wheel sport

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/912051287373598721

    • Spurning Beer

      Well, rope my legs and call me dogie. I did not see that one coming.

      • CripesAmighty

        Next up: Kentucky Tractor Pull.

    • wait! what?

      Now it’s a real sport because they have to drive standing up.

    • TundraGrifter

      The drivers and crew members don’t have a union. The NFL players do.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Wow, now they’re being treated more like slaves than the black guys!!!! I wonder if that will dawn on them now.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Kinda goes against the original spirit of NASCAR, if you ask me.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Being a bunch of law breaking bootleggers? That is very hypocritical now that you mention it. These people crack me up.

        SMH

    • Moebym of the Returners

      Formula 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NASCAR

      • Saxo the Grammarian

        Avante Scuderia Ferrari! Forza!

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Fuckin’ aye!

        I want real racing with real race cars!

        Take that, tooth-deficient, genome-redundant white trash losers!

    • stumpknocker

      you know why white trash does it doggy style? so both of them can watch the race.

      • The Wanderer

        Oh, I LIKE that! I shall have to recall it in future conversations with racing fans.

    • TJ Barke

      CSA! CSA! CSA!

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        I can get behind Community Supported Agriculture…oh, wait…

    • IdiokraticCulturalMarxist

      “That whuppin’ they took from W. T. Sherman must’ve really fucked them up!”

    • Ωbjectifier

      Playing the race card.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      NASCAR. Where winning means you have gone around in circles faster than a bunch of other guys going around in circles. Or Demolition Derby with nice team shirts.

  • little miss high and mighty

    It is 10 till 11 CET .
    We must get or git got.
    bye!

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Christopher Story

      Mission creep much? I thought this was about extra judicial summary executions of black men by law enforcement officers

      • phoenix00

        Ethics in Gaming Journalism, etc etc

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Dumbass! They didn’t fight and die for the flag.

      • phoenix00

        They did fight for the right to deflate balls.

      • Daniel

        Neither did Trump.

        • bubbuhh

          I dont know. I hear his ballz are deflated.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        He humped one though, that counts, right?

  • Viktor

    Steve Mnuchin, the out of touch spoiled rich guy, got in on the action by saying that football players can protest off the field, just not during games, because they are “on the job”. I wish he and his spoiled, middle class hating, trophy wife would stop taking a knee and kissing Trumps ass.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      funny thing- the owners don’t seem to have a problem with it. Maybe the munchkin should STFU and MYOB

      • Mehmeisterjr

        The Mnuch is still trying to figure out how to slough off as much of his (HWAP) Hot Wife Acquisition Project to the Federal budget.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Tell him, “Back at ya!”.

    • ltmcdies

      or pay for their own flights….

    • YoBunnyBunny

      What the fuck do protesters have to do with HIS job in the Treasury??? This don’t concern you, bitch, have a seat!!!

  • Notreelyhelping

    Prediction: Monday morning, some mouthbreather in the House introduces a bill that sends kneeling sportsballers to Guantanamo.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Louis Gohmert, you’re up!

      • Notreelyhelping

        I lean towards Louis too. King can’t blame this on immigrants; so he’s probably not interested.

        • CripesAmighty

          Glenn Grothman.

          • Notreelyhelping

            I didn’t even know who this guy is, and, after reading about him, I wish I didn’t. Definitely a possibility.

      • Phried Ω

        Would anyone rely on Louis for anything. Asparagus Growers Assoc. wouldn’t.

    • The Wanderer

      Steve King or Louie Gohmert?

      • YoBunnyBunny

        AOT,K!

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Keep in mind that the main reason the boy king has picked this dumb fight with the NFL is to create a distraction to yet another shitty week he is having. The candidate he threw his weight behind in Alabama is losing, the Mueller investigation is heating up something fierce and the GOP appear to be going down in flames with their latest zombie repeal bill. Donnie figures he can alway whip up the base with some mindless jingoism and spew a bunch of racist dog whistles in the process. And he’d much rather be talking about this dumb stuff than about all the winning losing he’s been doing lately.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      That’s true. It’s something that Trump thinks he knows something about. At least he knows he can whip up his base with it.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        It’s his typical targeted bombast sleight of hand. What’s the MSM talking about today? It ain’t Robert Mueller…

        • Saxo the Grammarian

          And yet, Mueller quietly sifts through the evidence…

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            that’s the part Donnie dumbass hasn’t quite figured out- Mueller DGAF about any media distractions

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Mueller and team are probably too busy drafting so-called no-knock FISA warrants to watch The Game of the Week.

            And they’re the true Americans?

            They probably can’t even quote the over/under of Tom Brady’s deflated balls.

          • OutOfOrbit

            getting hopelessly buried under his hoarding of minutia while the tRumpsterfire burns all around him

        • Daniel

          I do think this might be the point where his own tactics come back to bite him in the arse. He’s conditioned people to have really short attention spans because of the rate the shit from his ineptitude flies through the fan. This particular pushing of the rage button needs to last a while to distract from… everything else. But it’s probably going to blow over by next week, or else more people will join the protest. He needs to keep this outrage stoked, and I don’t think he has the attention span to do that.

    • Notreelyhelping

      Kelly sticks his head in the White House comm office. “Okay, top needs something stupid to say.” Kelly exits. Speech writers high-five one another.

    • Walter Wellstone

      That s correct. This is yet another distraction.We must not lose focus from the Graham-Cassidy shit show and the Mueller investigation. That’s what really matters. Everything else, as George Costanza would say, “it’s just masturbation.”

    • Christopher Story

      I have all weekend to scream about Trump and football. I’ll go back to screaming about Trump and healthcare on Monday. Damn, this is a full time job.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Scream away- just don’t let Donnie distract ya from the important stuff

        • Christopher Story

          I figure Mueller’s got this, so I can let the Russia thing summer on the back burner while I take up more immediate concerns.

        • C4TWOMAN

          We’re not the people he need s distract. The only thing that will stop meuller is the FBI headquarters being bombed…

    • Jamoche

      If he had half an iota of political sense, he’d be distracting people from that by Doing Something About Puerto Rico. He did get a marginal climb in the wavering R section by pretending to Do Something About Houston.

      • Ωbjectifier

        Yeah but they’re Mexicans or something.

        • proudgrampa

          Precisely.

      • Rebel Scum with permit

        It’s not just distraction. He’s doing it to make himself feel good. He must have approval, and he knows the goobers just lick that racist shit right up.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          that’s it- the ego stroke is just as important

      • C4TWOMAN

        Hell, he doesn’t even have to do anything… just make the right noises. But probably is one of those places full of messicans who speak Latin, so he’s not going to bother.

  • bookish

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/24/jared-kushner-private-email-white-house-243071

    The decision to set up new, private accounts as Kushner was preparing to enter the White House came in the wake of a bitter election campaign in which Trump routinely excoriated his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton for using a personal email account to handle government business when she was secretary of state.

    There is no indication that Kushner has shared any sensitive or classified material on his private account, or that he relies on his private email account more than his official White House account to conduct government business. Aides say he prefers to call or text over using email.

    Still, Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, set up their private family domain late last year before moving to Washington from New York, according to people with knowledge of events as well as publicly available internet registration records. At the time, Kushner — who served as a senior campaign adviser — was expected to be named to a White House role, while Ivanka Trump was publicly saying she didn’t plan to work in her father’s administration.

    Kushner’s representatives declined to detail the server or security measures on it.

    • The Wanderer

      Even though half the code’s in Cyrillic.

    • Bebecca

      Is there evidence he hasn’t shared classified information? Probably not which means no one has investigated.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Of course Kushner asserts that no sensitive or classified information went through his private account. Tomorrow’s story will be that it wasn’t much classified information, and besides, it probably shouldn’t’ve been classified anyway. Next it was sent by an aide accidentally, and that person’s been talked to and is sorry. And after that, it’ll be that sending shitloads of highly classified military information to Russians shouldn’t be a crime to begin with.

  • SisterArtemis

    Is this being our Open Thread? Just because I love Lyn Collins…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ9dGs4X7DY

  • Shanzgood

    Well, gosh. No wonder Editrix loves Shy so much!

  • Scooby

    Next Trump will come out against hot dogs next and apple pie.

    • Phried Ω

      and motherhood.

      • And Taco Bell and Pizza Hut!

        • YoBunnyBunny

          Nah, don’t do that! Then I’d have to agree with him on something, and I WILL NOT abide by that!

      • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

        I don’t think motherhood was ever a thing he respected.

    • Three Finger Salute

      What about baseball and Chevrolet?

      You know what’s going to happen if he insults hockey. Hockey will send in the troops to attack.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71f9a7707f9f955de24cb812fc5b4bc0f2e9b29973bfe34643070b176834e205.jpg

      • phoenix00

        You don’t wanna mess with female hockey players. They will ruin you. Don’t be fooled by no-contact rules.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Oh, I know, that’s why I posted the Canadian women’s team.

          CBC reporter: “Prime Minister, why is it your heartfelt belief that the Canadian women’s hockey team could grab the president and the entirety of his Kremlin-bought administration by the covfefe with as much as, if not much more, power and ferocity as the men?”

          Justin Trudeau: “Because it’s 2017! Although, if I may issue a brief explanation of the quantum realm — you know, not to get all science fictiony on you, but just for a moment, if we could rethink things as basic as space and time — also too, it’s 1812.

          Women’s hockey team: “Appreciate the geekout, Prime Minister Sheldon, but can we please just kick his ass now?”

          • phoenix00

            > Prime Minister Sheldon

            heehee! Or should I stick with the simple ‘eh!’

  • Suttree

    Hey you damn reprobates, listen to a great song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vzizAy0w1I

  • Scooby

    Trump has accidentally given them more of a forum then they ever could have hoped for. What a Putz!

  • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

    maybe, just maybe, i can live to see the day when the hideous war anthem is no longer a part of my sportsball experience…

    but i still hate the seahawks

    • Notreelyhelping

      The only version I can listen to is Hendrix.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Whitney Houston’s was kind of war-porn-ish, what with it being the opening theme to Indiana Texas Bush and the First Oil Crusade, Part 1: The Herbert Walkering and the fighter jets flyng overhead. She did have a really nice voice though. RIP.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bW5Wf_dH7Q

        Then there’s Roseanne’s version, when she grabbed herself by the pussy. I just — can’t — especially after finding out she endorsed Trump… noooo, where’s the eye and ear bleach…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c

        • YoBunnyBunny

          My vote is for Marvin Gaye at the NBA!!! He literally did some sexual healing to the anthem!!! People were in the stands clapping and catcalling like it was a concert! It was awesome.

          https://youtu.be/QRvVzaQ6i8A

          • Red Richmond

            Niiiice. Never heard that version before, but my favorite is still Hendrix for those absolutely righteous guitar licks.

            I actually like our anthem, in all its militant defiance and difficult pitch. Sure it’s hard to sing really well, but a true master like Gaye or Hendrix or Houston can elevate it to something special.

    • Christopher Story
      • Parakeetist

        Wawuh!

    • motmelere

      Unreasoning Packer fan still feels the fail mary, so yes. screw those guys(with loses)

    • puredog

      Pro tip: Call them the Seachickens.

  • Mehmeisterjr

    As the only sitting (or former) President who has bankrupted an entire football league, he should probably take a knee just about now.

    He won’t of course. But he should.

    • Bebecca

      The world should be reminded of that, often.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Donald Trump owns the ultimate Marcus Hiles Effect for bankrupting sports leagues.

  • susan_g

    The problem here is that these pro athletes think that because they are making millions of
    dollars, that they are now rich and can spout their opinions on anything right out loud and in public. For that, you have to be really rich, mega-rich, I’m talking about Koch bros/Mercers rich. At that level you can give your damn opinion and shove it down our throats but these athletes are not at that level.

    Oh, and being white—got to be white, too.

    • Viktor

      Trump isn’t even Koch/Mercers rich. That’s why he’s a rage filled liar who had to build his own country club. Real rich people laugh at the bankrupt lies about his wealth Donny.

    • Jamoche

      I never hear the Koch/Mercers actually say anything. They just pay to have other people say it.

      • Christopher Story

        Because they are THAT rich. Trump on the other hand, had to pretend to be his own spokesman.

        • Walter Wellstone

          Trump has to pretend he’s rich to keep himself from breaking down and realizing he’s a loser and a fraud, just like his father always said he was.

      • puredog

        I am totes ready to hate on David Koch 24/7 and then I see he gave big bucks to the production of The Vietnam War, and things shade toward the frustratingly gray. (But I’m still pretty capable of the 24/7 hate, it just slows me down a tad.)

    • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

      I don’t think many of those WNBA players make millions of dollars, but point taken!

  • bookish

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/24/cruz-opposes-latest-obamacare-repeal-243067

    The bill, however, faces two obstacles aside from Paul and McCain: time and math. Saturday is the last day Senate Republicans can use the reconciliation budget tactic to pass repeal legislation with a simple majority, rather than the usual 60 votes, and they don’t appear to have the votes.

    “Right now, they don’t have my vote,” Cruz said during a panel discussion at the Texas Tribune festival in Austin that also included Sen. John Cornyn. “And I don’t think they have Mike Lee’s vote, either.”

    Cruz said he and Lee offered amendments to the Graham-Cassidy proposal last week that would go further in bringing down Obamacare premiums. But the changes, he said, weren’t included in the latest draft of the bill.

    • Old town Urbandale

      Have we seen the amendment to see what kind of fuckery Cruz and Lee are up to to “further bring down Obamacare premiums”?

  • ltmcdies
    • Walter Wellstone

      Now if only this little expression of protest could translate into votes against Republican candidates next year.

      • Jamoche

        From the looks of them, they were never in his core demographic.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          But they might be able to mobilize some votes.

          • Walter Wellstone

            That’s what I meant.

    • C4TWOMAN

      It’s like I dare you meets the Streisand effect. If only Donnie kept his mouth shut…

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Donnie is constitutionally incapable of keeping his mouth shut… and learning from the consequences too.

      • ltmcdies

        well that’s like asking your racist drunk uncle to please shut up at Thanksgiving.
        except every day in ‘Murica is Thanksgiving for Uncle Donnie

        • puredog

          Donnie: A .24 drunk who blows a 0.0 BA. Who can explain it.

  • Hats off to my old hometown team the Tennessee Titans for participating in today’s Quarterback Sack of Trump’s big mouth.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2009f94714b630b73007f70f42a86ac370755e8a1f8594a88751e9d22ba63757.jpg

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      A 20,000% increase in posting about the NFL is a lot of %

  • harryeagar

    Serious query: what do locked arms mean? Trump is claiming it means support for him. it does not seem so, but what exactly does it signify? Have any arm-lockers explained?

    Wash. Post says Khan locked arms, does not report he knelt.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Trump thinks Melania loves him. This is nothing.

    • Christopher Story

      Unity. You attack one of us you attack all of us.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Yes. The linking arms thing was also popular last year. The Seahawks chose to link arms rather than kneel during a game last year. Doug Baldwin explained that it was a sign of unity with their fellow players who chose to kneel.

    • jesterpunk

      Trump claims everything is about him.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        He prob’ly thinks this blog is about him.
        He’s so vain!

    • Daniel

      Support for the kneelers whilst standing.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Imagine what would happen if the fictitious characters Archie Bunker, Cliff Claven, and Gordon Gekko could somehow be merged into one person.

      That’s what you are trying to understand. Seems pointless to me.

  • Zach Williams

    So, the Pittsburgh Penguins are going to the White House…Now It looks like I’ve got another reason to like the Preds during this year’s hockey season!

    • bubbuhh

      Hockey teams are still mostly green card foreigners. They goin to the WH to take the tour.

      • OrdinaryJoe

        Dreamers with papers.

    • PersianOregano

      Russian players making a cold drop?

  • RocketManCaptainHowdy

    I’ve found my Justin.

    Dan Helmer is a U.S. Army veteran, business strategist, Rhodes Scholar, husband, and father. His wife, Karen, is a public school teacher, and their two young sons, Harris and Aaron, attend class just down the hall from their mom.

    Dan is the son and grandson of immigrants. His grandparents came to this country as Holocaust survivors and refugees. In America, they were welcomed and found prosperity, freedom, and peace. Dan believes that this, the American Dream, belongs to all of us – no matter our color, our religion, where we were born, or whom we love.
    . . .
    As the Representative for Virginia’s 10th District, Dan will advocate for an America built on openness, inclusive prosperity, and strength. He will fight tirelessly for our security at home and abroad. And he will stand up for progressive values to ensure all Americans have access to the American Dream. He will help bring us back to a government that works.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8159c218b88e199a61961794c34e0683aacdb3c6cc24860ff9c3222ee3d89287.jpg
    https://www.helmerforcongress.com/

    • Three Finger Salute

      Yay! We need a Merrican Justin!

  • Three Finger Salute

    Patriots won, on both counts. You know, though, what I think would be one possible solution to this whole fracas is to stop fucking playing the national anthem at events that have nothing to do with the government, veterans, or “national” anything. We’re never going to change the stupid anthem, because as racist and ahistorical of a war porn hymn set to the melody of a drinking song as it is, our “traditions” are set in stone in a way that the Founders would have been sick about: they’ve become a civic religion, where doing anything about the national anthem is tantamount to retconning the Bible.

    Nobody really cares now about Kap or what was saying (not that they did anyway). They just all took a knee to piss off Trump because the one thing that at least 80% of the country can get united in is their dislike of Trump. But except for, I dunno, Independence Day fireworks or veterans’ funerals or Memorial Day events or the inauguration, if you want to “respect” the anthem, or national symbols, or whatever, stop playing it ad nauseam at literally everything from high school graduations to the goddamn Super Bowl. It’s a tacky, overkill form of “patriotism” and it makes us look like the commercialized, asshole hicks we really are as a country. We shouldn’t be projecting that image around the world.

    It needs to stop. It all needs to stop. Shut up. Everyone just go to their separate corners — especially Trump, who reacted to the reaction with a reaction of “bad ratings! Sad” and the goddamn media, who fuels this fire with pundits reacting to pundits reacting to pundits’ punditry about Trump — and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    Well, I must go and do stuff – like chores which all of you have distracted me from doing. That’s right, I refuse to take responsibility and have decided to blame you all instead. Anyhoo, before I go, I leave you with this: an ode to my beloved Puerto Rico. Please donate to relief efforts, if you can.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o74m1qggLHo

  • Mike Steele

    Lady MS has always loved me some Terry Bradshaw – funny, self-deprecating, basically decent, unapologetically bi-polar and way smarter than some folks realize, he proves that crazy can often be put to GOOD use:)

  • Lance Thrustwell

    Kneeling’s okay. But how about lying down in a chalk-drawing pose? A little too on the nose?

    • Zach Williams

      I joked earlier today that if they really want to send a message, they should wear hoodies with bullet holes over their jerseys.

      • Bemused Australian

        I remember O’Reilly saying that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Martin because he was wearing a hoodie. It was surreal

    • OutOfOrbit

      well i donut have the body for that

  • The Wanderer

    I’m looking forward to having a nice dinner:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5qAn8osAaY

  • mary5920

    Trump is indeed a uniting force. Even people like Terry Bradshaw who ordinarily support Republicans (including Newt Ginrich!) are criticizing the resident for his tweets.

  • TundraGrifter

    As the protests spread, more players taking a knee, entire teams not coming out for the national anthem – does that mean that Colin Kaepernick’s actions are becoming the new normal? Seems to me Mr. Trump has smoothed his way back to the NFL.

    • JustDon’tSayPeter

      That would be a terrific middle finger, wouldn’t it?

      • puredog

        In all honesty, I will be utterly unsurprised if this is a one-off one-week kerfuffle. Enjoyable, to be sure, but not to be confused with a true sea change. I will happily be proven wrong though.

      • TundraGrifter

        Teams struggle, QB’s get hurt. I’m going 75-25 CK has a new team before the 2017 season is over.

  • Bemused Australian

    Is it time for an executive order stating that all sportsball players and attendees salute the flag or be deported?

    • gallbladder

      In 3…2…

    • phoenix00

      You say “Sieg”, I say……

      • Rick Hill

        Oh, hi!

  • janecita

    Trump wants to know, how much his dumb ass, brain dead followers love Melania.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/do-you-think-melania-is-a-good-flotus-trump-wants-to-find-out/

    • Christopher Story

      Because he just saw that Michelle Obama had better numbers and he can’t stand that. Just more proof that America loved the Obama’s more.

      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        It always comes back to ratings for Lil’Donnie Two-Scoops. So lets take look.
        @BarackObama 95.2M @MichelleObama 9.02M
        @realDonaldTrump 39.1M @MELANIATRUMP 897K

        That’s gotta sting the orange ego.

      • Ms.Moon

        Handsome couple, beautiful family, both Obamas articulate, well educated and gorgeous together and apart. Melanoma did not finish college, the only thing she and Michelle have in common is that she is a very protective mother to her kid, just as Michelle was to her girls that’s the nicest thing I can say about her.

    • bubbuhh

      Is he tryin 2 sell her?

      • Bill D. Burger

        She IS getting a little long in the tooth for him….time to trade her in while she’s still presentable?

        • I’m sure one of his regrets about becoming President is that he’s stuck with her past the trade-in date.

      • Rick Hill

        Window dressing is her only function. If the rubes don’t buy it then what good is she?

    • phoenix00

      Some 44 percent of the roughly 1,000 respondents told the outlet they had a favorable opinion of the former model, while 35 percent of people said they had an unfavorable view. Another 14 percent said they had no stance.

      Her poll numbers from September were relatively unchanged from April. She was especially popular among men, Republicans and people over age 65.

      Popular among greying senile pervs. Where have I heard that before…..

    • jesterpunk

      The poll they are basing it on is biased as hell to begin with. Its popularity compared to the rest of the Trump family.

      It’s probably no coincidence that the email went out the same day that CNN released poll data showing that Melania Trump is the most well-liked person in the first family. Some 44 percent of the roughly 1,000 respondents told the outlet they had a favorable opinion of the former model, while 35 percent of people said they had an unfavorable view. Another 14 percent said they had no stance.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Iz not dumbass brain dead Trump follower. Doesn’t mind Melania:

      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/24/05/44A55B3B00000578-4914096-image-a-5_1506228614232.jpg

      …but Melania likes him a lot more.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • jesterpunk
      • Mike Steele

        See also: Jesse Owens – 1936

    • akryan

      Why the fuck should he be able to politicize sports while the people who play the sports shouldn’t? It’s just one more thing that disgusts me every day when I think about the fact that he’s president.

      • Rick Hill

        Same way he can stand behind veterans and the military to look tough even though he never came close to serving, quite the opposite, in fact

      • phoenix00

        Hint: Kurt Shilling gets a free pass.

  • bubbuhh
    • phoenix00

      Not until the entire Trump family, Kushner, Manafort, Flynn, Price, DeVos, Mnuchin, Bannon, Miller, Huckabee-Sanders, Lewandowski, Ryan, McConnell, et al. join him in there.

      • Mike Steele

        Pence, Pruitt and Sessions deserve to be called out by name

        • phoenix00

          Too many to name really.

  • Zach Williams

    You know, if this is just Trump’s football opinion, I’m scared to see his opinion on motorsports.
    “F1 is WEAK AND BORING! Too many rules! Not enough crashing!”

    “Failing Dakar Rally doesn’t allow violence! NASCAR much better!”
    “MotoGP RUINS the fun of motorcycle racing! Too much regulation!”

    • phoenix00

      Let’s see if he can pronounce “Dakar” correctly, let alone figure out where the damn race actually is!

      • therblig

        he loved that cross eyed lion

        • JustDon’tSayPeter

          And now I must clean the spatter off the keyboard. Again.

      • Zach Williams

        Something that might piss off Trump more is the fact that France is extraordinarily dominant in the Dakar rally.

    • Jamoche

      “Too much hockey! Not enough fighting!”

      • Zach Williams

        “BIG LOSER Danica Patrick getting beaten badly @ NASCAR by STRONG men!”

      • puredog

        I read that as “Too much hockey! Not enough fisting!” which also works too.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    18 United States Code, Section 227:

    (a) Whoever, being a covered government person, with the intent to influence, solely
    on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity—

    (1) takes or withholds, or offers or threatens to take or withhold, an official act, or

    (2) influences, or offers or threatens to influence, the official act of another,

    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than 15 years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.

    (b) In this section, the term “covered government person” means—

    […]

    (3) the President, Vice President, an employee of the United States Postal Service or the Postal Regulatory Commission, or any other executive branch employee (as such term is defined under section 2105 of title 5, United States Code).

    • Jamoche
    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      He doesn’t know any better. He’s new to Washington. We have to give him a chance

      • phoenix00

        … so says Chris Cilizza?

      • TundraGrifter

        Sounds like the Tom Hanks character in “Splash” – “Hey, give her a break! She’s from out of town!”

  • Bill D. Burger

    OooooWeee! Turnip’s call for chastising Steph Curry and Colin Kaepernick is realy, really working out well for him, huh?
    bwwaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross: “Our country needs unifying leadership right now, not more divisiveness.”

    Packers CEO Mark Murphy: “It’s unfortunate that the President decided to use his immense platform to make divisive & offensive statements.”

    UNC national championship team not visiting White House

    A’s Bruce Maxwell first MLB player to kneel for anthem

    Seahawks President Peter McLoughlin: “We fully support our players’ use of their freedom of speech.”

    National Basketball Players Association: “The celebration of free expression – not condemnation – is what truly makes America great.”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKgeZcyXUAAELxR.jpg

    • I can’t help but wonder where all these brave stand takers were when the right was literally demonizing the black guy in the white house.
      No. Literally, as in they called him a demon.

      • RocketManCaptainHowdy

        Politics is a gradual process.

        • This is true.
          Also, I have the sudden itch to change again to old beast lunatic. But I dunwanna use enabling language

  • The Librarian

    Not a big sportsball fan, but if gramps up there can do it, so can I.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a177ef89793e96315e5baec90a0a8fa49fd34b41105b5a34b43de192a11eef54.jpg

    • Michael R

      ouch !

      • The Librarian

        I’m tough.

        • Mike Steele

          If you’re still down there, we’ll help you up…:)

          • The Librarian

            LOL! I was very proud of the fact that I could do that. I had hip replacement surgery 3 months ago. :)

  • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

    1. Bruce Maxwell: “My hand was over my heart because I love this country and I have family members, including my father, who bled for this country, and who continue to serve.” Debbie: “UNLIKE DONALD TRUMP & PROBABLY HIS ENTIRE FAMILY”
    2. I love Brennon Gilmore’s Grandpa and Colin Kaepernick’s mom
    3. Joe Walsh, Trump didn’t just criticize those sportsballers, he said the NFL owners should fire them, which is an attempt to punish them. He violated the first amendment, so shaddup Joe Walsh.

  • Bill D. Burger

    So athletes who resist are “sons of bitches”? Well, turn about is fair play.
    For TrumpCo.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKfbX9fVwAEaCOp.jpg

  • schmannity

    Oh Noes!! Jared Kushner used his personal email for White House communications. LOCK HIM UP!

  • Angela Ruzzo

    I always wondered why they sing the national anthem at ball games, so I looked it up. Here goes:

    “After America’s entrance into World War I, Major League Baseball games often featured patriotic rituals, such as players marching in formation during pregame military drills and bands playing patriotic songs. During the seventh-inning stretch of game one of the 1918 World Series, the band erupted into ‘The Star-Spangled Banner.’ The Cubs and Red Sox players faced the centerfield flag pole and stood at attention. The crowd, already on their feet, began to sing along and applauded at the end of the song. Given the positive reaction, the band played the song during the next two games, and when the Series moved to Boston, the Red Sox owner brought in a band and had the song played before the start of each remaining contest. After the war (and after the song was made the national anthem by a congressional resolution in 1931), the song continued to be played, but only on special occasions like opening day, national holidays and World Series games. During World War II, baseball games again became venues for large-scale displays of patriotism, and technological advances in public address systems allowed songs to be played without a band. ‘The Star-Spangled Banner’ was played before games throughout the course of the war, and by the time the war was over, the pregame singing of the national anthem had become cemented as a baseball ritual, after which it spread to other sports.”
    http://mentalfloss.com/article/18997/why-do-we-sing-national-anthem-sporting-events

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      So, jingoism, then.

      • puredog

        On the off chance that the Washington Senators might win a game while I was there to witness it, I went to a lot of beisbol as a kidlet. I always used to get excited when they struck up the national anthem , but ONLY because it meant that the game was finally going to actually begin.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      So, war then? I always assumed that the nationalism, ostentatious troop “honoring” and obscenely costly Blue Angel fly-overs were designed to glorify military service so more kids would consider fighting in our wars. Of course, there are probably many other reasons.
      Aside: I recall seeing the Lipizzaner Stallions from Austria perform when I was in middle school. I was the one person in the audience who didn’t stand for the pledge or the anthem. I still don’t appreciate semi-compulsory group worship of songs or symbols. Actually, worship in general offends me, but that’s why I am proud to be from America, if I choose to exercise my rights and not participate I’m legally allowed.
      TL,DR: pledges of fealty and worship are optional. Thanks, Madison and Jefferson!

      • data_ninja
        • Up In Smoke O’hontas

          Ha! Thanks for this!
          EDIT: It’s great that u tube followed with the Allman Brothers!

      • The Librarian

        I stopped standing when I was a rebellious teenager. The only reason I stand now is to stretch my legs and give my fake hips a break.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          I don’t stand…because when I go to public events I use a wheelchair. Before that, I used to stand up, but only because it feels kinda weird to be sitting while everyone around you is standing, as all you can see is a lot of people’s posteriors. However, I never sang the anthem…I think it is unsingable.

          • The Librarian

            Lol, true that.

          • Sorta like going to mass but not practicing anymore. You stand cause it is weird to watch everyone else doing it

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Very true. I’ve been to a few Catholic ceremonies in the past 40 years since I left the Church, and I always stood up, but I didn’t kneel, I just sat forward on the edge of the pew, otherwise the people kneeling behind me would bump into me. It was a courtesy move.

          • The key to being able to sing the anthem is to be completely shitfaced drunk when you do it.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      What’s really interesting are certain mouthbreathers who think not being gung ho about the anthem is anything new.

      Speaking for my black family members–even especially the ones who were in Vietnam–a lot of them were like “Fuck that flag!” At best they would stand a dude the Angry Black Guy scowl during the anthem.

      So when people were losing their shit about this now, that just makes me go “Really?!?” Black people have always had a contentious relationship with traditional American “patriotism”. I know black people who love to point out the irony that Indepence Day was not originally intended for us.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I can certainly see your point. I was never gung-ho about public displays of patriotism because I just never enjoyed joining in with masses of other people all doing the same thing simultaneously. I felt like it was encouraging me to be a mindless cog in a wheel someone else was turning, or an animal performing in a circus (I never liked the circus). I wanted to be the girl in the Apple Macintosh commercial.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I

        • Three Finger Salute

          Now I want to smash Apple and the tech industry altogether, because they are Big Brother.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Can I help? Please say I can help. I often think of the opening credits of SCTV where people throw their TVs out of high-rise windows, and imagine doing that with computers.
            https://youtu.be/rP9dlTornbM?t=54

        • JerryRich

          I forget whatever group it was that replaced Big Brother’s face with Hillary Clinton’s.

    • JerryRich

      During (and after) WWII, the anthem was played at many public events, including movies and Broadway shows. Today, most American symphony orchestras and opera companies play the anthem at the season opener.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        When I was in England in 1968 and 1972, they played their anthem in the “cinema” before every movie began. I don’t know if they still do that in England.

    • Old town Urbandale

      And in those early days, if the ball players did anything with their hand, they probably didn’t put it over their heart. They probably did the Bellamy (aka Nazi) salute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

    • LucindathePook

      What I really hate is since 9/11 is that they started all that God Bless America stuff, and standing up for that. I’ll stand for SSB, Oh, Canada, and God Save the Queen, but why the hell should I STAND UP for GBA?? What’s up with that?

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I have not encountered that, but I don’t get out much. I hope I never do encounter it, because I am an atheist and I have no intention of standing for GBA.

        I never really understood everyone’s fascination with flags. It’s just a piece of cloth to me, something they fly in battles so they know which side is which, and who won. When I was a girl scout all the flags were made out of cotton and weren’t weather proof, so we had to take them down from the flag pole in front of our school every evening with a certain amount of ceremony and ritual. If any part of the flag touched the ground, it was practically a punishable offense 60 years ago. Now they’re all polyester, and many of them are left flying 24/7 in all weathers.

  • motmelere

    Multidimentional asshole Trump will unite the entire world in our opinion of his dickishness when he shows that he REALLY doesn’t want to deport dreamers. Those fuckers would support two scoops if he came out on the wrong side of the puppy kicking issue(it’s always bad, BTW.) So here’s a very tiny thumbs up to Donald for making me agree with very evil people when they laugh at him.

  • Christopher Story

    Let’s not forget; yes we are taking a knee for Colin Kaepernick, but we are also taking a knee for why he took his knee in the first place.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    He hates the NFL and the owners there hate him. In the end, as with everything else, it’s always about The Dotard and his little peen ego:

    “He eventually got his way, but it turned out to be disastrous. The USFL ended up suing the NFL, accusing the league of holding an illegal monopoly on fall football and attempting to strangle the USFL out of business.

    Despite winning a court battle, the USFL was awarded just $3 and the league was shuttered in 1986 after just three seasons, according to an archived report from the Los Angeles Times.

    Trump is widely considered to be the guy who lead the USFL to its demise. He “destroyed” the league, screams the headline of a piece published by Esquire.”

    From CNN

    • phoenix00

      Despite winning a court battle, the USFL was awarded just $3

      A great deal! The best deal! Believe me!~

      • OrdinaryJoe

        The jury verdict was $1. The antitrust law provides for the judge to give treble damages, thus the $3. The NFL paid something like $3.67 in total, including the interest.

        • Bitter Scribe

          Why can’t I get that kind of interest?

        • phoenix00

          “Cash, check, or credit?”

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      He also tried to buy the Buffalo Bills a couple years ago (after Ralph Wilson kicked). The other owners never really considered him a serious bidder, and told him to sod off.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Lebron’s Trump Response Gets 752% More Support Than Trump’s Tweet

    • YoBunnyBunny

      And Trump even has Russian twitterbots following him! Pooty must be mad at him…

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Rick Hill
    • SDGeoff3

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      • Rick Hill

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          It made me go to youtube and now I have about a day’s worth of listening to Electro-swing. But I have to say, after sampling here and there, the Italia stuff is really amazing. Again, thank you so much! I really needed this right now.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • redarmyzombie

      …Whelp, there went my lunch…

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I like it, although Trump is pictured sucking the wrong side, there and it leaves out the Boss of All Bosses, Putin himself.

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  • SDGeoff3

    What a treat. Thank you.

  • Bill D. Burger

    What the fucking Dotard’s howler monkey devotees will never understand:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKg06ZYUEAAzxVL.jpg

    • THIS SO FUCKING MUCH

    • Three Finger Salute

      “I only like soldiers who didn’t die” -paraphrasing Trump

  • Bitter Scribe

    Gee, the country (part of it, anyway) elects an utterly unqualified racist buffoon to its highest office, and the next thing you know, people start losing respect for it. Who could have seen that one coming?

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Hillary warned us. But NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

      • Three Finger Salute

        But her emails estrogen.

  • BosGrl

    Drumpf at an airport earlier, talking about “tremendous support” with the players linking arms (!) and Robert Kraft being a great friend who gave him a Superbowl ring. While he was talking about Kraft, Drumpf scratched his head with his middle finger. I wish I could find a clip. I swear he was trolling Kraft with that finger.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Kraft got his ring stolen by Vlad Sauron. What we should really do is send in a black-ops team to destroy it before he puts it on his finger and takes over the —

      OH SHIT WE’RE TOO LATE

      • BosGrl

        My ex-husband just said the EXACT SAME THING!

      • puredog

        Throw the ring into Mordor. Bonus points if Donnie is wearing it at the time.

    • Kneeling Bozilingus

      Did Putin give the stolen ring to tRump?

  • Bill D. Burger

    Trump’s diseased view of America:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKg0_bfVoAAnECy.jpg

    • Rick Hill

      He said that at the Alabama suck fest, er, rally. I’ll bet dimes to dollars that he talked with a local and they were going on about the ones making America awful and he said “And then there’s those sunsabitches….’

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    In other sportsball news, the D-Backs clinched a wild card slot (thanks to losses by Milwaukee and St. Louis). If they win today, and Colorado loses, they also get home-field for the wild card.

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      i am a lifelong stl cardinals fan…this ^^ is good news, as i hope missing the playoffs leads to the firing of mlb’s worst manager mike matheny

      • Three Finger Salute

        Oh, so you like 400 pound hackers in Mark McGwire’s basement, eh? 😝

        edit: eh, never mind, I’m right there with you… Red Sox and Patriots (ducks to avoid shoe throwing) for me…

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          gaaaah!…the evil nor-easter teams

    • yyyaz

      Yay! *watching right now*

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  • BetsyBleedingheart

    Apparently NASCAR is threatening to fire drivers and crew who protest the anthem. To which I say, fuck you very hard, NASCAR.

    • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

      nascar has been bleeding attendance/viewers for a while now…bummer, dudes

      • Parakeetist

        Indy is better

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      I think we also have to be really clear that the protesters are protesting police murder of black citizens, not “the anthem.” The racists not only condone the murders, they want to deny black citizens the right to even protest. It’s heinous, corrosive, 19th century slave owner racism.

      • BetsyBleedingheart

        Yes yes yes you know what I meant. I’m too goddamn tired to type out that whole thing.

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          We’re all just so goddamn tired these days…..

      • Serai 1

        Twitler’s just fucking stupid enough that he probably thinks the anthem is exactly what they’re protesting, and it’s too much trouble for anyone around him to try to talk him out of it.

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          I honestly think he’s a racist on a par with a 19th century slave owner. He thinks it’s just fine for police to murder black citizens, they probably “had it coming,” and even if they didn’t, I mean, “they’re black.” And any black citizen who is “uppity” enough to actually protest is a “son of a bitch.”

    • And that is when a driver does it. Come at me, bro.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Rubes gonna rube. How the fuck long did they take to get rid of the goddamn covfeferate flag?

    • BosGrl
    • Mike Steele

      Why do those flag-huggin’ rednecks hate ‘murcan freedom so much? What are they, anyway…Russki lovers?

      • These are people who fly flags from cars on highways.
        They can STFU about disrespecting the flag. There is NOTHING more disrespectful than subjecting your flag to spattered bug guts

        • Serai 1

          I find any use of the flag distasteful other than flying it outside a government building or in government ceremonies. The way people use it as a decoration makes me bilious, and it seems borderline insane when compared to how hysterical they get about the way it’s treated. How exactly is it okay to make fucking PANTIES with the flag on them but not to burn it in protest? It shouldn’t be used by the public at ALL, is my opinion. It doesn’t belong to any one person, it belongs to the nation as a whole.

  • SayItWithWookies

    I want to thank all the players and owners in other sports besides football, because damn — I like football better than Trump, but not by much. But I might at least tune in to the anthem in tonight’s game.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Bet this chafes his old wrinkled orange ass.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhRJtgVYAAJud1.jpg

    • Parakeetist

      Bam

      • Three Finger Salute

        Hillary only has 18M but that’s probably because 1) they’re real and 2) she doesn’t tweep very often. It’d be even better if she hadn’t the time because she was too busy presidenting, but bqhatever. 😞

    • Three Finger Salute

      39M of which are fake bots.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Yet he’s still losing the retweet competition, the big, dumb loser

    • Wow.
      Look at the following ration tho o.o

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    You and Jr. will lots of time to reflect later.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKglp7aWAAAFER3.jpg

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    • Mike Steele

      To quote D’ohTUS, “the check is in the mail…” hahahahahahahahahahaha

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    The ALL WHITE Pittsburg Penguins say they will go to the White House. Wonder why?

    https://twitter.com/Vanecool/status/912020172155711488

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    All I have to say is Art Modell, rot in hell.

    • Parakeetist

      Oh yeah.

  • Serai 1

    OT because it looks like this is the open thread. I’m needing to hear this right now, and thought others here might, too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDdjZWn8l3g

    And the Dude can go fuck himself, at least on this score.

    • motmelere

      It’s not the sound of my own wheels that drive me crazy.

    • JustDon’tSayPeter

      Well, that’s like, your opinion, man.

  • Bill D. Burger

    3.5 million Americans without power and struggling to survive and that dumb orange motherfucker is obsessing on which sports figures will visit him at the White House.

    Puerto Rico before and after:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKgpZXXWkAYUZLe.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKgpZXbX0AE44Es.jpg

    • BMW

      You are assuming Trump realizes that Puerto Rico is part of the U.S.

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    • motmelere

      I’m pretty sure he thought that song was all about his big victory.

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    • TJ Barke

      Tammy Longstreth is pathetic.

      • No, wait about 7 years, when she is no longer plucky 20 something, and starts doing the plastic to stay relevant in that world, and they shoo her off to the fringe like they did Ann.
        THEN she will be pathetic. Because she will know it is coming, as it has for all the other conservative talking heads.
        Right now she is merely a dumb.

        • natoslug

          I assume the hateful bullshit she spews is to deflect from how forgettably bland she is otherwise. Trying to stand out in a crowd of pasty young conservative blondes can be challenging.

    • jesterpunk
    • ariel_gee_398

      Don’t we have to wait for Jim Hoft to weigh in before we make it official?

    • altleftjohn

      Damn you George Soros! Damn you to hell!!!

    • Christopher Story

      Nazi Barbie comes with new Alt Right dog whistles!

    • BMW

      Accurate description is accurate.

    • Christopher Story

      Hand check! Both hands on the keyboard you basement dwelling hate trolls.

    • natoslug

      Timmeh Lahren has a long way to go before she works her way up to vapid, so I’m sure she can tweet something even dumber before the weekend is over.

  • Shy, you miss the other sportsball man on the right of Terry that reminded them what it was all about? Right there on national TV for the pre game?

  • ariel_gee_398

    Because obviously he’d be just as critical if a bunch of white players were taking a knee to demand lower income tax rates. https://twitter.com/AP_NFL/status/912071344350691328

    • TJ Barke

      Why would they respect a country that treats them like second class citizens because of the race they were born into?

      • ariel_gee_398

        Because black folks are supposed to be grateful for every crumb white folks allow them, silly.

    • Hey, Trump, the kneeling has nothing to do with respect for our country, instead it is about black guys getting killed for being black

      • Daniel

        His base can’t hear that over the bellowing of straw men.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      The fact that he has to even say that means that it’s all about race. Dummy is digging a deeper hole.

      • Serai 1

        Yeah, the whitesplaining just caps the whole thing off, doesn’t it?

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    • Three Finger Salute

      Also too, priceless.

    • altleftjohn

      I just hate to see the Trumpsters and the neocons fight.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      FAKE NEWZ!!!!

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    • BosGrl

      We can’t have enough protests about how much he sucks.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Puerto Rico – 3.5 million U.S. Citizens
    Humanitarian crisis looming – power grid gone

    And fucking son of a bitch Dotard Trump is twiddling on twitter!

    • bookish

      At least one airport and seaport open on Puerto Rico now. Relief shipments beginning to arrive. Will take months to re-establish electrical grid. Island in recession before hurricane, now in dire economic straits. Interior of island cut off.

      • TundraGrifter

        Our son booked tickets on United for the first week in October. Now the airline doesn’t want to give him a credit to use later. This is going to be a dog fight.

        • Maybe he can do a volunteer vacation? Might be fun

          • TundraGrifter

            That’s an excellent suggestion. At this point, with the event so recent, I wonder what a single volunteer with no affiliation can accomplish. I appreciate the suggestion and I certainly like the way you think!

          • Depends on who they can meet and work with. Think of it like those Naked and Afraid shows, except in a more urban context

    • Maybe we should point out that Puerto Rico used to have a terrorist group, and therefore, the only option is to put lots of armed forces on the ground to rebuild all that infrastructure and housing. That’ll show the terrorists!

      • Old town Urbandale

        Puerto Rico used to have a terrorist group

        The Sharks?

        • Augustus

          The Jets were the real terrorists

    • BMW

      “What were 3.5 million Americans doing in Puerto Rico?”
      -Trump (probably)

    • miss_grundy

      Besides blah people, he doesn’t like Hispanics either. Case in point: the Central Park 5: 4 of the young men were Black and 1 was Newyorican (parents born in P.R. and son born and raised in NYC.)

    • HooverVilles

      In one of the Donald’s own best words.
      SAD!

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  • my feet are normal
    • I hate to say it…but David wins who burned the mostest. It ain’t especially funny, but DAMN.

    • motmelere

      Totally agree, but Trumpster fire fans will always call that a hoax, unless you let brown people call themselves US.

    • miss_grundy

      Burn!

    • HooverVilles

      ^^^^THIS^^^^

    • I made chocolate chip cookie poofs. Like normal cookies but with baking powder to make them poofy instead of gross greasy flat.
      num num.

      • Exactly. They did something similar with the tofu in a batter with baking powder. Made a light and fluffy crust.

      • TundraGrifter

        So you just substitute baking power for baking soda? My wife has been cooking with natural substitutes and the chocolate chip cookies are OUSTANDING! I eat the dough when she isn’t looking. Check out “Naturally Sweet” from America’s Test Kitchen!

        • Yep! And you make em a bit smaller too, also. They are like lil bites of poofy gold.
          Used to trade em for booze and smokables in college.

          • TundraGrifter

            Thank you! We’re going to try that.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Trump is even inspiring high schoolers! Whatta’ guy!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKfoA53XoAAOOxo.jpg

    • Zach Williams

      Good on them! They’re standing up to the man.
      I wish my school was like that. Sadly, my high school is in a district that overwhelmingly went to Trump and is filled with racists.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      More decency and integrity in those kids than the entire GOP congressional caucus.

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Garfield High School, LA. Go you Bulldogs!

      • Old town Urbandale

        Garfield High, the alma mater of the guys in Los Lobos?!

    • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

      This makes me proud.

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    Another excellent way to respond:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhJ-MxU8AAE3fm.jpg

    • gallbladder

      Early, often, and relentlessly.

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    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      What’s Teddy looking for?

      • tehbaddr

        A heartbeat!

        • Three Finger Salute

          Ted sings the national anthem:

          O Canada! My home and native land!
          Trudeau’s Tru’ Love, in my heart he doth command!
          With green eggs and his blue eyes,
          His thighs so strong and free!
          Spread far and wide!
          O Canada! I do get hard for thee!
          God keep my prince young for eternity,
          O Canada! I do get hard for thee!

          Justin responds:

          Oh, Rafael, please stay away from me!

        • Querolous

          A can of Campbell’s Clam Chowder?

      • Bill D. Burger

        A condom for his rendezvous with the Dotard later?

      • natoslug

        Finally got that booger off his tongue, has to find somewhere less obvious to wipe it.

      • rollaids

      • Doug Langley

        His wallet. Wouldn’t you if you were standing next to Donnie?

    • Rick Hill

      He doesn’t have Melania to remind him to salute

    • HeywoodJablomey

      *ahem* that one is ‘shopped.
      Still a detestable waste of DNA ‘tho.

  • BMW

    When you call a black man kneeling during the national anthem to protest systemic racism a “son of bitch,” but said the white men marching with torches in favor of Confederate statues and yelling anti-semantic chants are “good people”…expect pretty big backlash.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Also, every network including Fox has a lot of money invested in NFL coverage.

      lol — his petty grudges make him stupid.

      And while he and and Russian trolls and bots troll the NFL, his Katrina is unfolding in Puerto Rico.

      • suziq

        “Well I did pay many hundreds of dollars for these tickets but darn it, I just can’t stay here if people are going to protest police brutality and other horrible things!” (said nobody ever)

    • AJ Milne

      A million times _that_.

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    Trump super patriots honoring the flag.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhN13yVwAA8pjv.jpg

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    • altleftjohn

      D’oh! Turd.

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    • Rick Hill

      “You really “get me”….”

  • miss_grundy

    Perhaps the people in this country who have critical thinking skills are wising up and deciding that we don’t need a president who is disrespectful to women of color who are mothers. About time.

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  • Marceline

    I have to admit that I am genuinely surprised to see the support that the protests are getting. I figured that you’d a lot of people (white players/coaches/mgmt) trying to straddle the fence in a whole “I’m just here to play football” kind of way. Instead people have really stepped up. I’m still trying to figure out what’s changed. I mean with the exception of the deplorables, people aren’t even pretending that Donnie deserves to be taken seriously anymore. Part of it might be that the focus may have shifted a bit from this being a protest against police brutality to a protest in favor of the First Amendment.

    Also I realized that in 2010 I couldn’t stand LeBron because of The Decision and I adored Bernie Sanders because of his filibuster. Lawdy, how times change.

    • ltmcdies

      time does tells us who people are sometimes…except Donnie…he was a jerk then too

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      It’s pretty much Trump, Putin’s troll army, Joe Walsh, and a few Mercer paid PR people.

    • ariel_gee_398

      I think the shift in focus is part of it, but I also think that white people prefer when police brutality is still coded in dog whistle. When white people can’t pretend anymore, it forces action, I think.

    • King Beauregard

      I hate myself for feeling any hope at all, but is it possible that BLM and all that’s sprung from it has gotten people thinking? There was a time when gay marriage was the province of weirdo lefties, but as people had a chance to mull it over, it stopped seeming like such an outlandish concept; is this the same?

      I pin this on cellphones. Cellphones have, on the one hand, pretty much disproven Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster, because if crypto-beasts were real then the footage of them would scale with the ubiquity of cameras. On the other hand, cellphones have made it possible for white people to see with their own eyes how the police treat blacks. Without that footage, it was a bit like when you hear that a friend of yours is an asshole to other people: you don’t think they’re lying, but what they’re telling you doesn’t track with your direct experience with the friend, so you’re left trying to reconcile the two. But when you finally see the evidence, that decides the matter. That’s sort of the same with white people and the police: a great many white people have had nothing but positive interactions with the police, and it’s hard to know what to do with reports to the contrary. Could it be “just a few bad apples” while most are good and honest and decent? Well the cell phone footage pretty much cleared up that point of confusion.

      I want more Bigfoots and fewer bad cops please. I’m satisifed that the Loch Ness monster is just a standing wave in Loch Ness, though. Physics clears that one right up.

      • Doug Langley
      • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

        A lot of people didn’t believe police brutality was a real thing until a plumber with a portable camcorder caught the Rodney King beating on video.

        • Shanzgood

          But there was a reason (other than weed) hippies called cops “pigs” all the time.

        • King Beauregard

          I think people believed it happened, but how often, under what circumstances, was there another side to the story, etc? Basically, what is the context to put it in, and is it a systemic problem or is it a problem with scattered individuals? Like I say, if your own experiences with the police have been nothing but positive, it’s hard to reconcile your direct experiences with someone else’s accounts.

    • Maclare 🌋

      Also, Donnie wants the game to go back to its head injuring ways again.

      I think that got their attention too.

      • miss_grundy

        Yes, he would like the NFL to deny the CTE findings, to deny that so many current and retired players are showing the problems brought on by taking so many shots to the head.

    • BeachBum

      Maybe not enough Chinese Factory Jobs for the economically anxious Rust Belt voters ? Maybe they changed their minds about war with NK. Or “really bigly great healthcare” didn’t happen. Or he is just a tool for the Russians. IDK.

      • Three Finger Salute

        He is just a tool. Period.

      • miss_grundy

        He was a tool long before the Russians took an interest in him.

    • What changed?
      A sitting president called for a private citizen to be disciplined for using his free speech. THEN he demanded people boycott the NFL, an American company.
      NFL probably responded more to the second bit, but fuck if I care.

  • Relativicus

    Didja hear that, America? Joe Walsh says it’s perfectly reasonable for the president to call for a boycott of an American business because the business is not patrioty enough. This is a thing Joe Walsh believes, apparently.

    • jesterpunk

      Has Joe Walsh paid his child support yet?

    • gallbladder

      So much for all that free market capitalism nonsense, I suppose.

    • We shall remember this when President _fill in your favorite libtard here_ calls for the boycott of all things Fox.

    • Raan

      Just so I’m clear, is that the America’s Most Wanted guy?

      • I think it is a congress fellow, not musician or most wanted dude either? Not sure tho

        • Raan

          I just checked Wikipedia. AMW guy is John Walsh.

          • There is a musician Joe Walsh tho. Google says Eagles XD
            THIS one is a former congress critter and deadbeat dad

          • Raan

            Eagles guy eventually went solo, I think.

          • Three Finger Salute

            They all did. That’s why the reunion tour was called Hell Freezes Over. Hell went frigid because the Eagles got back together.

          • Old Man Yells at Cloud

            I just saw a long but really interesting documentary on the history of Eagles. They split up in 1980 and got back together in 2004. Glenn Fry died last year and the band said they would stop, but I guess are going to do some more concerts with Glenn’s son taking his spot.

          • Three Finger Salute

            That’s what the E-Street Band did with Jake Clemons. And damn if he isn’t just as incredible of a sax player as his dear ol’ dad.

          • LucindathePook

            John Walsh is dad of the little kid (Adam?) who was killed. Show is part of his mission.

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    • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • He’s a pocket man!
      Blowin out hot air up there alone

      This could be a thing someone could do just sayin

      • Parakeetist

        I hope Elton John will rerecord the song just for Trump.

        • ….ooooo wonder if he would?
          We could hook him up with the artist there?

        • Three Finger Salute

          Well, he did a very nice remake of Candle in the Wind for Princess Diana. Candle in the Wind “1997” it was called. Perhaps there’s a “Bitch is Back 2017” waiting in the wings for Donnie. Or “Can You Feel the Hate Tonight.”

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    • Parakeetist

      AMEN

    • HooverVilles

      Yes. Yes. Yes.
      However let’s not forget Pence, Ryan, and the rest rot infected GOTP.
      But that’s probably asking too much

      Sigh!

  • This is more than i was ever comfortable knowing about spotsball

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      We will return to our regularly-scheduled geekery momentarily.

      • gallbladder

        Do I have time to get a drink?

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          Yes, there is always time for refreshments.

          • gallbladder

            (cracks open another)

          • Parakeetist

            Glug glug glug

        • TundraGrifter

          Alcohol and sportsball are a natural fit – like a good roll in the sand on a beach.

      • Panika MCD

        sportsball fans are considered geeks.

        • Lord yes. My husband knows where these guys went to college, and high school, and what their stats were during those times in their lives, and what number in the draft they went or if they walked on, and who has this record and that record….

          And yet, he still forgets to put the damn seat down sometimes.

          • Panika MCD

            have you tried a shock collar?

          • LucindathePook

            No, they leave ’em up on purpose so the little woman will notice when it’s time to clean the toilet.

        • Three Finger Salute

          But socially acceptable geeks, because they geek out about a “manly” thing like sportsball or cars. Geek out about traditionally geeky stuff, like anime or sci-fi, and it’s back into the locker. Heck, I even got targeted for just getting good grades. And I’m a girl.

          • Panika MCD

            you’re talking to someone who is a nerd about TX politics, poetry and coffee with other nerd interests.

          • Three Finger Salute

            YMMV, I guess. My school stopped publishing the honor roll because it functioned as a Nixon’s enemies list.

  • IdiotsforPalin

    “I didn’t dodge the draft so some son of a bitch could disrespect the flag.”
    T. Dump – Bone Spur Survivor

    • Rick Hill

      Don’t mock him. That’s a terrible thing and can only be cured by a tough regimen of tennis, golf, touch football and nightly debutante rubs.

  • Juan de Fuca

    Just flipped on CNN to see if they were covering the NFL/national anthem protests and heard the anchor say “To learn how we got here, let’s take a look at what the president said on Friday and be warned: some of the following language may not suitable for small children.”

    So there’s something I never thought I’d see in my lifetime.

    • gallbladder

      Decorum is so 2015.

      • Juan de Fuca

        “You progressives are so potty-mouthed!” – > elects a guy who comes with a parental advisory during public speeches.

      • TundraGrifter

        January 20, 2009 – January 20, 2017

    • BeachBum

      Klass. Nutin’ but klass. Yooge klass.

    • No kiddin. The whole part where the president of the united states used his station to call for the discrimination of a citizen for using their free speech…no child should ever hear that

      • Juan de Fuca

        Yup. And don’t get me wrong. I drop F-bombs like throat lozenges during the flu season and have given a few speeches and such in public. I am very proud to say that I’ve never cursed during any of them. I mean, I was never particularly proud of it before, but with this new low bar, I’m actually kind of fucking proud of it, I guess.

        • OutOfOrbit

          i know! even peeps who cannut put out 10 fucking werds in private w/o a cuss can control it … with their FUCKING brains

    • RocketManCaptainHowdy

      Remember when it attracted attention when Reagan said “keister”?

      • Three Finger Salute

        LBJ had such a potty mouth as to make Andrew Dice Clay look self-censorious. But never in public or at his speeches. LBJ was a statesman. He was a Democrat. Many, many people don’t know that.

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      A bit Dutarteish isn’t he?

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Yeah, just like his “Grab ’em by the pussy” mixtape.

      Who’s gonna be the first GOP fainting lily lady (or gentleman) who’s going to be absolutely “OFFENDED” when someone quotes him and ask them to defend his statement?

    • I just returned from a motorbike ride on the parkway. I had stopped to make water when a guy approaches me about the “RESIST” stickers on my panniers. “What the hell are you resisting?”, he said.

      “The motherselling imbecile you have for a president”, I replied.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Nice. :) And I’m jealous that you just got back from a motorbike ride on the parkway, in one of the most scenic places to ride in the country. Whatcha riding?

        • 2006 Triumph Tiger. Did you ever pick up the Yamaha you were after?

          • Juan de Fuca

            Nice, man. No, I bought Mrs. de Fuca a new car instead.

            Next up is my turn and I was waiting until the end of the year to buy a new bike anyway hoping the prices will drop a little. The problem with that is that of course ya got limited choices for colors and stuff but I’ll have one soon. And can’t wait. I’ve been five years without a bike and am pretty sure this is the longest I’ve been without one in my life. I don’t like it.

          • A slightly used motorbike will save you $$$ and you can, with patience, find one with the options you want…..of course you know all of this. If I had the money I’d have a bike for every mood.

            Nothing like two wheel therapy.

  • Doug Langley

    Um, Shy, are you aware that the Wonkette home page is listing zero comments for all posts? No biggie, but something’s screwy.

    • OutOfOrbit

      been like that all day

    • Since comments aren’t allowed, it is to be expected

      • Doug Langley

        Of course. It makes perfect sense.

  • bubbuhh

    Casual tag to the end of a RawStory article

    Pres. Trump himself does not use email because he has never learned how and does not carry a cell phone. His use of Twitter is carried out via dictation to “one of the young ladies” on his office staff. http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/jared-kushner-used-private-email-account-to-conduct-white-house-business-report/

    Why are young ladies on his office staff hovering in his bedroom at night?

    • Master Contrail Program

      So he speaks all stilted like that? Sad!

    • Ling Ling

      I dunno about this. There were many reports that Trumpolini carried an obsolete and readily exploitable Android device.

    • Shanzgood

      And why can’t they spell?

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Russians?

      • OutOfOrbit

        it’z a girl thing

    • YoBunnyBunny

      I call bullshit… unless they are as illiterate as he is. Which is probably the case.

    • Hey, those sheets aren’t going to pee themselves!

    • Mike Steele

      Lookin’ at you, Hope; tough luck, KellyAnne; call the lawyer, Melania; smart move, Marla; you were right all along, Ivana.

    • tehbaddr

      I’d believe it! The “man” is a imbecile!

    • Panika MCD

      Ivanka?

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Or worse yet, in the bathroom

  • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

    POTUS who claims to respect women indirectly calls women he doesn’t know “bitches” by calling their sons “sons of bitches.”

    • Rebel Scum with permit

      Fundevangelicals will still line up to vote for him

  • Panika MCD

    is Disqus still being a pain in the ass?

    • OutOfOrbit

      SNAFU

    • armed_bears

      Undies-in-a-literal-knot sort of pain.

    • Doug Langley

      You mean, as opposed to its usual behavior?

      • Panika MCD

        extra cranked up.

    • Raan

      It’s a day that ends in “y”, so yes.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Meanwhile, Flint still has poisoned water and Puerto Rico was ripped back to the Stone Age. But thank god the sportsballers are all up in Drumpf’s bidness, yessir.

  • Relativicus

    If you wear, fly, display, praise, or decorate anything with symbols of the confederacy, your opinions on patriotism are unwanted and unnecessary.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      “But mah hurritage!!!!!1!!1”

    • Three Finger Salute

      What if I burn the covfeferate rag?

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Panika MCD

      rednecks are working class rural people, not sports car drivers.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        NASCAR vee-hickles aren’t sports cars neither.

        • Panika MCD

          runs on hayseeds?

      • BeachBum

        Not sports cars. “stock cars” to be relatable to red necks.
        But true, the drivers are millionaires, not working class people.

        • Panika MCD

          rednecks also too tend to be unionized–unlike hicks, hill billies and hayseeds.

      • Most the people who currently call themselves rednecks are nothing of the kind.
        Example, my brother, who like me grew up in SE Philly, spawn of a blue collar Boeing worker.

        • Panika MCD

          I know. but I also not a lot of rednecks. even black and Hispanic ones. they tend to get a little pissed when they’re confused for assholes. they tend to span the political spectrum, but many are Dems.

    • bubbuhh

      they dont speek southarn 2 gud. No zzzzzs

    • Daniel

      And fly Confederate flags and defend Confederate monuments.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      And suck off the gubmint teet then accuse the black of the welfare.

    • Bill D. Burger

      (N)on
      (A)thletic
      (S)port
      (C)entered
      (A)round
      (R)ednecks.

    • Mike Steele

      they’re not much at spelling, are they?

    • Lol, are you? You had to threaten them, dipshit

    • jesterpunk

      Wait I thought Faux Noise was all for employees refusing to do something that violated their beliefs?

      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        Yes but “their beliefs” refer to Faux’s beliefs; not the employee’s beliefs.

        • jesterpunk

          I guess it only counts when they want refuse service to minorities.

    • Raan

      I don’t usually quote Jeff Dunham, but…

      “They’re makin’ a left turn! They’re makin’ a left turn! They’re makin’ a left turn! I wonder what’s gonna happen next! Come back in ten minutes, you won’t miss a fuckin’ thing!”

  • TundraGrifter

    How many Republicans are still wearing those little American flag pins with an elephant on them? Disrespectful and a violation of the US Flag Code. Not that they care, of course.

  • Longstreet63

    So, the mirror universe I walked into just gets stranger as society is shown the error of its ways by the professional sports leagues…

    • Three Finger Salute

      “The National Spelling Bee disrespected our country by not having their words be MY BEST WORDS! Despite the negative press covfefe”

      (4-year-old dictionary savants and Alex Trebek all take a knee)

      • yyyaz

        I like it!

    • my feet are normal

      Nazis are marching on the streets, and our allies are professional footballers and juggalos.

      I did not see this coming.

  • Nounverb911

    Only if their senators accept the GOPs bribe, and the other 46 states, what are they, chopped liver?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/912079629648883712

    • Panika MCD

      AOT, K.

    • yyyaz

      The only thing Dotard could say that I would approve of is “I quit.” The shatteringly stupid shit he spews ….

      • I wonder what would happen if a million people tweeted “Delete your presidency” at him

        • Raan

          He’d probably call on Twitter to delete their accounts.

        • Nounverb911

          Putin would order up another million bots to replace them?

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          I wonder what would happen if we had a “Hate Trump Day” and tens of millions of us tweeted or called to tell him “I hate you.”

          • Nounverb911

            He’d make Jared block all of the tweeters…..

        • The Librarian

          I would absolutely do this.

    • ten bucks you ain’t got Alaska, dick weasel. Also, pretty sure even Cruz is bailin

    • Bill D. Burger
    • Raan

      Also, when you spend seven years working on something that not even the bare minimum of your coworkers will get behind, how much does that hurt deep in the pit of your stomach?

    • BeachBum

      They really want to run the country as a crime syndicate, mafiosa, protection racket with bribes and threats. I wonder how many GOP will “swim wit da fishes”?

  • Rick Hill

    So, right about now, Kelly is thinking to hisself “Gee. It was great taking a weekend off. No communication with anyone, just at the cabin by the lake, the dogs and good ol’ ma nature. I deserved this…gawd knows. Maybe I should ease back into civilization and the job that waits…let’s see what on ESPN…”

  • bluicebank

    The little bubble thingy indicating how many comments on all Wonkette’s articles shows all zeros. Comments not allowed, and there’s proof!

    • Suse

      Woof Man is messin’ with us.

      • BosGrl

        Suse – how are you doing? I was hardly around all week but I was thinking of you.

        • Suse

          How sweet of you! I’m getting a cold, I think, but otherwise good. How are you?

          • BosGrl

            I’m ok. :)

  • Nounverb911
    • DerrickWildcat

      1936 German Olympic Team.

  • JohnBull

    Wow, Donnie, between the folks at the UN smirking at you and owners and players protesting all over the land, it’s as though the whole world is telling you to go fuck yourself.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Oh shit! I keep having to agree with Frum.
    “The world is ended. It is not the world I know.”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhBHEYXoAIMODI.jpg

    • Suse

      Frum is becoming a flaming libtard! Who woulda thunk it?

      • OutOfOrbit

        mebbee tRumpsterfire cleaned his bathroom mirror

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Three Finger Salute

      “That the one about guns? Who needs it then?”

      -Trump’s base on Brainfart dot com

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Three Finger Salute

      “FAKE NEWS! Globe and Mail is a lying, crooked blog owned by dopey clown Justin from Canada who I thought was my NEW FOUND FRIEND! Disgrace to our politicians! SAD!”

    • phoenix00

      PROTIP: TG&M is considered a right-leaning rag up here too.

  • Rick Hill
  • Panika MCD

    is @disqus_rM4TDyQE01:disqus around? Alien Brother and I tried to get Jazzy to galumph a bit with the rodeo outfit. this is the best video so far.

    https://youtu.be/GDXKCecakJ4

    • BosGrl

      This is awesome.

    • jesterpunk

      Aww JJP with her costume.

    • TJ Barke

      Whoa, weird hearing another wonker’s voice.

      • Panika MCD

        isn’t it melodious?!

        • TJ Barke

          Sure.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Yeah! Jazzy Jazz Pants!

    • Rick Hill

      Chuckle, I did

  • Bill D. Burger

    3.5 million US Citizens in dire need and the Dotard n’ Thief is obsessing about athletes:
    Totally unfit for any office.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhC3QRXoAA-nnM.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhC34nXUAA4Ewm.jpg

    • Three Finger Salute

      “I only like guys named Rico who don’t get hurricaned.”

    • OrdinaryJoe

      I had dinner Friday evening with a group that included a young man whose total extended family lives in Puerto Rico. As of 7:00 that evening, he had actually spoken once with his mother and knew she was OK. As for the rest of his apparently quite extensive family, he had not heard a single word nor had his mother. There are Americans in dire need of everything and the Dotard is carrying on a Tweet war with sportsball people. SMH

      • BosGrl

        After things get back to normal, I wonder if they’ll be discussing independence instead of statehood. It’s not like they can count on us.

        • Ms.Moon

          I don’t know if they would be able to do that. Their economy is unfortunately very tied to that of the United States. The rest of the West Indies would welcome them to participate more amongst them as their own country but I don’t know if they can do so from an economic point of view.

        • Three Finger Salute

          But it’s not like they have enough resources to be independent either. No, Canada can’t take them in as a Caribbean province…

          • BosGrl

            That’s too bad because they’d be better off with Canada.

    • Rick Hill

      What? He did the initial response thing and told everyone hard work, stand behind you, blah blah blah. What more can a preznit do?

  • OrdinaryJoe

    So. After all the bullying bullshit, he finally went too far when he tried to take on the NFL. If you know the history of Dotard vs the NFL you know that once again, the NFL made him look small, ugly and dumb. So it’s Dotard 0-3 agains the NFL.

    • BeachBum

      Once again, it is all about payback and long grudges for him. What a sad little man.

      • Three Finger Salute

        The Russian coup is all about his stupid fucking hotels in the first place. Our democracy… our democracy for a gold toilet in the Nutsacker suite…

    • Three Finger Salute

      And if you know anything about America, it’s that you can get away with anything — sexual assault, Nazi sympathizing, even nuclear war — but the minute you mess with football, there’ll be mass riots in the street like you’ve never seen before.

      Shame that we’re such a moronic, selfish country that it came to this, but, hey, bqhatever it takes to unite at least temporarily against this Dotard even if we eventually go back to hating each other for petty reasons like favorite sportsball team again.

      • OrdinaryJoe

        I’m a die hard life long Bronco fan so as I am cheering all this on I’m thinking in the back of my mind, thank god he didn’t say something to attack the Raiders…

        • BeachBum

          IKR !1! I’m a former Charger fan in recovery ! Dodged a bullet !

        • Three Finger Salute

          At least Denver would probably be pretty mellowed out, if you know what I mean…

      • BeachBum

        Well, maybe not mass riots in the streets, but I get your point. People are tribal, territorial, and selfish, and so are about their teams. But so is the rest of the world about theirs. The thing that sustains me about baseball and football is to visit their Hall of Fames, and see from the 19th C how it all started, when guys did not make a lot of money. Stories like how the Packers got their name cause they worked for a packing co dur the off season. Jackie Robinson changed sports forever. JIm Brown…. ok, I’m done.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Also the 1919 Black Sox. They threw the games because the sport paid peanuts. Shoeless Joe in particular got roped into that whole thing unwittingly. He couldn’t even read.

    • Old Man Yells at Cloud

      When it comes to making Donald Trump look small, nature did that.

  • Anna Elizabeth

    I am tired of living in a shitty nation of religious fanatics and Grotesquely stupid hate-filled imbeciles.

    i am tired of waiting to see if the GOP will take away my health coverage and 12% of my income because they are whores to the most vile Subhuman rich assholes on the planet.

    I’m tired of pain. I’m tired of fear.

    I am an attractive woman, vivacious and fashion-forward. I can dance, I can speak intelligently on many topics, I am a good listener, and a good cook. I’m dynamite in bed. I still spend every weekend alone because I am different, because I have a difficult to treat medical condition that the world sees as excuse enough for the most awful and deadly insults to my person.

    I am tired of the human race. If you don’t like me, don’t talk to me. If you feel like explaining something to me, don’t.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Oh….Frum! Staaaaaahp’ it….stop making me agree with you.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhEACdXoAIr_gn.jpg

    • SisterArtemis

      I cringe too, and am continually amazed how much I am enjoying Jennifer Rubin these past few months. But… but… here’s the thing: these are folks we can find common ground with, unlike the other conservatives both in power and in the GOP base. Making common cause with them is pretty likely to strengthen the resistance to the nation veering even more sharply to the right, and may be the means to keeping it from going off the cliff altogether. And, a lot of these folks – Rubin, certainly, Frum maybe – are folks we can mutually agree to disagree with where we split viewpoints.

  • Michael Smith

    This has been a very interesting football Sunday. Alas my beloved steelers were defeated and some among our barely sentient redneck fan base are blaming it on the steelers refusal to take the field until after the national anthem. But really it was because they can’t move the damn ball into the end zone when they need to. It was a rare Sunday in which personal principles became as important as arbitrary talent in an absurd athletic contest. And from what I’ve seen, shockingly, the president may have lost a few of his loyal followers because of his asinine decision to make that happen. People really love and admire a lot of these athletes and as absurd as that might be, the league and the players’ near uniform disgust at the presidents intusuon into our one last sacred communion has made some people stop and think for the first time in years.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      What a country!

    • Jacob DiCiaula

      Bears fan. For the love of God, you couldn’t put us out of Mike Glennon misery. A pox on your house!

      • Michael Smith

        Haha he did seem pretty sub par. The Steelers refused to take advantage of his myriad mistakes. I will say that after the call on the first overtime touchdown I was glad you won because that out of bounds call was ridiculous. I love a steelers win but I hate if it’s due to a horrible call.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Three Finger Salute

      Just wait until Kim takes a knee.

    • jesterpunk

      Yes but we didnt elect a president who was prepared. What a nerd.

    • phoenix00

      So who still thinks Trump and Hillary are so the same?

  • Bill D. Burger
  • OrdinaryJoe

    Sure enjoying watch Dotard take a whipping today.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • BeachBum

      Perhaps I have underestimated the Methodists ! Go Preach !

      • BosGrl

        Every Methodist I’ve ever known has been mostly liberal and open-minded.

        • Doug Langley

          Sadly, you never met my parents.

          • BosGrl

            :( Well I am in the northeast. Maybe that makes a difference?

          • SisterArtemis

            The Methodists are the sane ones in my family. Except the Free Methodists; those people are a breakaway church, about 77,000 conservative evangelicals (regular Methodists are generally not evangelical), and are off the deep end. Thankfully, my branch of the family sort of backed quietly away from the FM branch in my grandparent’s generation. Those people are no fun.

          • BosGrl

            :( There were two Methodist churches in my hometown. The people I knew were into equal rights and gay marriage. In fact, one of the pastors was gay. The other ended up being a pedophile but he was run out of town (possibly in jail) and the new pastor was a woman, IIRC, though it’s been a while since I paid attention. When my youngest daughter expressed some desire to get involved in religion, it was the only church I considered after the Unitarian closed.

          • Doug Langley

            I grew up in southern Indiana. Maybe it does.

    • Doug Langley

      Saaaay, you know who else is a Methodist? (Hint: she ran for President)

      • RocketManCaptainHowdy