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He wants regular order, and he wants it NOW. Or maybe not.

After doing his part to reignite interest in the terrible Graham-Cassidy bill a few weeks back, John McCain has decided that, no, he can’t actually vote for it after all.

“I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal. I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried,” he said in a statement

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This probably means Mitch McConnell won’t have the 50 votes he needs to pass the bill, which was supposed to go to a vote next Wednesday. So far, the only other Republican to say he definitely wouldn’t vote for the bill was Rand Paul, who opposed it because it keeps too much of the Affordable Care Act in place — like any of it. Maine’s Susan Collins hadn’t taken a definite position, but said last Friday she was “leaning against” the bill. Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski, who joined Collins and McCain in opposing the last GOP Obamacare slaying in July, has also not said how she will vote, although Bill Cassidy and Lindsey Graham have been trying to load the bill with goodies that might persuade her.

Assuming Collins is a no (which seems a good bet) and that Paul stays a no (less likely a bet), then McCain could again be the vote that kills this latest attempt to kick 32 million Americans off health insurance. We’ll believe it when we see it, of course — McCain may also have given cover for one or two Rs to bravely run away as well, now. But it’s definitely too soon to call this thing buried. Once we get to September 30, the time limit for an ACA repeal to be passed by reconciliation will pass, and then any further attempts would require 60 votes to move forward, so in eight days we can breathe a little easier.

McCain said his friendship with Graham wasn’t quite enough to overcome his belief that rewriting the nation’s healthcare system had to be done through regular order, and that he took “no pleasure” in announcing his decision to oppose it:

“The bill’s authors are my dear friends, and I think the world of them. I know they are acting consistently with their beliefs and sense of what is best for the country. So am I,” he said.

For his part, Graham went with “gracious” on the Twitters, following that with a pledge to continue on, because Obamacare is “collapsing,” which it most certainly isn’t.

Lindsey Graham, Bill Cassidy, and Mitch McConnell intend to keep pushing for this until either they force it through, time runs out, or they can’t get enough votes. And if they can manage to attract Donald Trump’s attention, he may push for the bill for a few minutes, too. We’re glad to see McCain make the right choice on this, but it’s no time to stop calling your Senators and telling them to vote against this, or if you’re lucky enough to be in a blue state, to tell your Democratic senators to fight until the clock runs out.

Let’s take a breather and put our feet up and you can have this as your OPEN THREAD.

[The Hill]

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  • BadKitty904

    Oh, John, you withered, ol’ minx!!1!

  • Joe Beese

    They’ll try again next year.

  • NotDarkYet
  • Drinking starting early tonight. Equinox and all.

  • DainBramage
  • OrG

    I’m sick of walnuts’ bullshit.

  • ariel_gee_398

    I wonder why premiums for ACA plans are skyrocketing, thus feeding the narrative that Obamacare is collapsing: https://twitter.com/Tierney_Megan/status/911322538105540609

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • Bill D. Burger

    The very moment Miss Lindsey heard the news about
    BFF McCain’s decision.

    https://hipiseverything.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/miss-lindsey-has-the-vapors-again-by-hip-is-everything1.jpg

    • elviouslyqueer

      Oh please. Like Lindsey could ever squeeze herself into a size 2.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Again, if we don’t get to refer to Ann Coulter as a man, we don’t get to refer to Graham as an effeminate sissy.

      • Bill D. Burger

        They’re both sour and bitter ~rhymes with ‘runt’~

      • little miss high and mighty

        Man libelz
        Effeminate sissy libelz!

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    Murkowski also a “No”.
    So the answer to “If everybody in your party in Congress was telling you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?” gets at least two Nos.

  • mancityRed6

    this could go so many ways.
    McCain says he’s against it, Paul says he’s against it, so it leaves maybe just one more to be a no vote and the rest can safely vote yes and go back to their backwaters and say “see, I tried to save you from Obamacare.”
    but then McCain and maybe Paul are the last ones to vote after every one else (save one) votes yes, and at least one of them flips at the last moment.
    not to be a downer, but until the nays are counted, I will not believe a word he says.

    • h4rr4r

      This will happen. McCain does not need to worry about another election, Paul is being consistent, and Murkowski has to vote no.

      These are the three that can let the rest vote yes as easily as they did when Obama was in office.

      • Eileen Besse

        I’m pretty sure Collins will remain NO.

        • Arolpin

          What does your relative level of attractiveness have to do with Collins’s vote? /s

          • Eileen Besse

            [OOOPS! Thanks!] My spies in The Great State of Maine feel strongly, and have reminded her of their feelings quite often. They say she seems against it.

  • therealpuredog

    I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again: McCain fucked McConnell, and he can just as easily fuck us. The man cannot be counted on. But I’m rooting for him.

  • An Outhouse for the résistance
    • willi0000000

      they’ll pay for it by shutting down every school and hospital in kansas and closing every road and bridge.

      [ . . . but they won’t cut their own salaries! ]

  • BearGHAZI

    Just a few more of these and we’ll forget about Sarah.

    Wait a minute… NO.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Don’t count McCain votes until they are (booby) hatched.

    He pissed and moaned about “regular order” then voted to fast track the last bill then voted against it. You can’t anticipate the actions of an irrational person.

  • elviouslyqueer

    I was in a luncheon today and our keynote speaker was Mississippi Senator Roger “First Among Colossal Assholes” Wicker (R-Hugh Janus). He spent the entirety of his speech assailing everything that had come into contact with Obama and, of course, repeated the “Obamacare is collapsing” goddamn fucking lie. The only reason why I didn’t get up and walk out is because I was representing my company and, as much as I loathe this bombastic scumfucker, mama needs her paycheck.

    • mancityRed6

      “First Among Colossal Assholes”
      that’s just a long line of people placed shoulder to shoulder

    • BadKitty904

      I hope the lunch, at least, was decent.

      • elviouslyqueer

        The mystery meat was fling-at-the-speaker worthy, but the Key Lime pie was delish.

        • BadKitty904

          Well, that’s something, I s’pose…

        • little miss high and mighty

          mmmmm flingable Key Lime Pie!

    • little miss high and mighty

      Then challenge the liar’s eggregeous lies with a fine, fine letter in tomorrow’s
      Elvious, Ms Daily News (the one your boss might not read- or use the Mrs’ maiden name on it.
      Every.Single, Be. Must. Be Exposed.

  • BadKitty904
    • Jeffery Campbell

      If we don’t get to refer to Ann Coulter as a man, we shouldn’t get to refer to Graham as gay.

      • jowgajen

        Truth is an absolute defense against libel.

      • elviouslyqueer

        But she is, Blanche, she is.

      • h4rr4r

        Ann Coulter is a woman though.

      • mancityRed6

        I’m just gonna say, as a prez candidate he said he’d have a rotating first lady. and that his sister would be one.

        • Jeffery Campbell

          That may well be, but commenters here are using this as ridicule. There are lots of other ways to ridicule this man that don’t cast aspersions on gays.

          • mancityRed6

            I agree. and it is wrong to assume he’s gay just because he’s 62 and never been married. but I’ll admit to making that assumption as well.

          • Jeffery Campbell

            It’s not that we think he’s gay. I think he’s gay. Was I oppose is the willingness to subject him to ridicule based on that, whether is true or not.

          • mancityRed6

            true. and point taken

      • bupkus231

        Personally, my continuing references to “Miss Lindsay” has more to do with his horrible South Carolinian accent and speech mannerisms than anything having to do with his possible gender preferences/identity.

        He doesn’t have to sound like a Brooklyn dockworker, but Jeez….

        • little miss high and mighty

          Actaully, the voice is the only redeeming quality so far.
          Carolina has a strong vocal tradition.
          It is his conscienceand his soul and his mind that are the big problems- like so many other big name singers and Congressionals.

    • Bright Bart

      kellyanne conway in two years.

      • BadKitty904

        At most.

  • Bill D. Burger

    “Oh John…..I always thought you were my Price Charming.”

    “Oh Lindsey….you were my Snow White….but you drifted.”

    https://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lindseygrahamjohnmccain.jpg?w=588

  • Scooby

    It’s amazing how reasonable they get when they no longer need megadonors or have to face primary voters.

    • willi0000000

      no wonder they defeated the campaign finance bill in the SCROTUS with the hobby lobby bill.

      [ does anyone remember the name of that poor dead campaign finance bill? ]

  • Michael Smith

    The military prison hospital video of McCain was on Burns’ Vietnam War documentary the other night.

  • Andrew Rheinheimer

    It’s too difficult to say what McCain will do, never assume with these folks or you’ll end like Ceasar.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      in a salad?

      • Three Finger Salute

        No, a PIZZA!!!!!11!

    • cheetojeebus

      Training ill mannered dogs?

    • Andrew Rheinheimer

      Nah, the Orange flavoured drink.

      • msanthropesmr

        That;s a Julius.

        • Andrew Rheinheimer

          Yes. Thank you for explaining the joke, sir/madam.

  • ariel_gee_398

    FWIW, Joni doesn’t think she’ll be needing to put on her voting bread bags: https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/911313538152587265

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “If this is less about helping Idaho and more about screwing California, well that’s OK then.”
    — Crapo & Risch

    • Arolpin

      Well, to be fair, I think you can blame most of Idaho’s current insanity on the RWNJs who moved from California to Idaho. Of course if you added Crapo’s and Risch’s IQs together, you would still be in double digits, so they blame the sane Californians, WHOSE OUTSIZED TAX PAYMENTS HELP FUND IDAHO’S UNDERPAYMENTS, instead of the fucking nutjob Nazis who moved to Idaho.

      • CindyinEncinitas

        Plus wine and great weed…

        • Arolpin

          Well, good wine and acceptable weed. (I kid, I kid! I know that the California medical market is what led to all the great strains, which were immediately available once CO allowed recreational, and are even available on the black market in the rest of the country. Now if you guys could just figure out how to do the Diesel variants.)

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Mmmm, sativa.

  • Panika MCD

    I think we have Rand Paul’s vote shored up. when he was being asked about it on NPR a couple days ago he even proposed going with ERISA plans (which are popular in both parties) rather than with the bill. if he’s named his darling, he’s probably not going to go back. I rarely see anyone propose an alternative and vote for an opposing view unless their alternative is somehow included in the bill in question. only time I ever see that is the budget.

    • mancityRed6

      he is an asshole, but he does have a certain stick-to-it-iveness

      • Panika MCD

        and his proposal isn’t bad. even an asshole is right sometimes.

        • An Outhouse for the résistance

          May he get incurable pink eye.

        • mancityRed6

          huh, my asshole is centered.

      • cheetojeebus

        yeah like antibiotic resistant ass rot.

  • memzilla Ω

    Dear Miss Lindsey:

    The biggest driver of increased ACA premiums is the uncertainty which you and the rest of your wattlecocked wingtards are INTENTIONALLY CREATING.

    In conclusion, please sit on a lemon squeezer and rotate.

    Sincerely, m. zilla
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f8444f49ca792e67e3ff3ffbddbf340077946c63fcbff195722d44d2def9a8b.jpg

    • wide_stance_hubby

      It’s ridged for no one’s pleasure!

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Upfist for “wattlecocked wingtards”.

      I swear, I read some of the most colorful expressions in these non-comments.

  • CindyinEncinitas
  • Fitzgerald Chesterfield

    McCain’s voicemailbox is probably full of weepy messages from Graham

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Drunkier and weepier as the evening wears on.

    • cheetojeebus

      A courier is on his way with a cut up friendship bracelet and a copy of a “wrestling” magazine sodden with tears that John gave him for his birthday.

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        Wrestling? I thought it was all those “for men only” fitness magazines…

  • whitroth

    Same as last time: he voted to do it, then complained that they weren’t following regular order. In other words, “yo, idiots, why do you keep NOT doing regular order?”

  • Gayer Than Thou

    Wait, so do I need to drunk-dial my blue Senators, or not? I need an answer asap, because it is a Friday afternoon in the Trump era, so I think you can do the math on the “drunk” part of that question.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      You can borrow Darrell Shit-For-Brains. 202.225.3906 760.599.5000
      Be as mean as you want.

  • stumpknocker

    not a bad set of book ends to McCain’s career, he began his career as a hero serving in the navy and he is ending his career being a hero to americans who need health care, i don’t endorse his politics, but sometimes you gotta give it to the Maverick.

    • An Outhouse for the résistance

      I would do some awesome shit too if my second wife was a bazillionaire.

  • jesterpunk

    Return healthcare to states because when they can’t afford the 5% of the cost from the ACA they will magically be able to pay 100% of the costs with Trumpcare.

    • Suttree

      Block grants are magic!!!!!!!

      • jesterpunk

        Block grants that end in 2026.

      • cheetojeebus

        They give Republican senators boners! It’s a miracle!!

        • Suttree

          So easy to grift and disallow everyone.

      • An Outhouse for the résistance

        Block parties are a hoot so block grants must be fun too!

  • Suttree

    Eat a bag of lightly salted rat dicks Miss Lindsey. You are really one of the most terrible people in the senate. Because you know what is right and you fucking ignore it every goddamn time.

    • Parakeetist

      I used to think he was a moderate, but with this bill, he’s an asshole.

  • An Outhouse for the résistance

    OT: 80 degrees today in upstate NY. Duke went to the beach. Happy first day of fall.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2c72da894bb3b99fc1ee58edb537bd0ac11aea1401c958abdf7dc4a53117af67.jpg

    • Suttree

      Meow?

    • BadKitty904

      Good boy!

    • Parakeetist

      Woof

  • Michael R
  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Graham: “Hey Lisa, the Koch’s said they’d give you 10 million cash for your vote.”
    Murkowski: “No.”
    G: “How about 20 million?”
    M: “No.”
    G: “Final offer, 50 million.”
    .
    .
    .
    G: “Well?”
    M: “I’m thinking.”

    • jesterpunk

      Boehner would have handed out the checks before the vote.

      • Panika MCD

        but with enough time for the donors to void them if their vote went the other way.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    ‘Waste of a good blow job.”
    — Lindsey Graham

  • Blackest Noobs

    attaboy Johnny attaboy!!!

  • Sophie McMillan

    John McCain is not a hero. He voted NO purely because they did not follow procedure. He wants to dismantle the ACA as much as every other R in congress. If procedure had been followed he would more than likely have voted YES. Look at his past voting record. The man cares not one whit for his constituents – he cares about his income not drying up.

    • jowgajen

      Eh.

      I think the Republicans don’t want to pass this bill but can’t afford to look like they don’t want to as far as their not getting primaried goes. So, McCain is the guy who has nothing to lose.

      • Sophie McMillan

        Not disagreeing with you but I am up to my eyeballs with people on my FB saying what a hero he is for saying he will tentatively note NO. He has no skin in this game .

        • jowgajen

          John McCain is a war hero. After that … not so much. But still a war hero.

          • An Outhouse for the résistance

            John McCain is a plane crasher. He should have had to pay for all his screw ups.

          • jowgajen

            That is a vile lie.

          • Sophie McMillan

            not a necessary comment. this is not about his war record so stop trying to make it that way

          • little miss high and mighty

            Someone in an earlier post mentioned his start of public life being heroic.
            Corrected citation supplied.

          • Sophie McMillan

            Again – no disagreement on that front. It does seem however that people cant separate the two things

          • little miss high and mighty

            We once thought so ourselves.
            But look at the situation.
            Skyhawk, 1967, Hanoi
            No RNV nor VC troop concentrations anywhere near- civilians (moslty) only.
            The US Pres had just told us that civilians were not being targetted and that troop concentrations were the target of “artillery”- not skyhawks bombing the center of the most populous city in the north.
            Mission such as these were flown by volunteers.
            so,
            no hero, nor hero- Charlie was the hero! (and Charoie’s family on the ground zero that day)

      • An Outhouse for the résistance

        Also Rand Paul. Kentucky would be screwed so he opposes it because its ‘not conservative enough’ in order to have his cake and eat it too. The grifting apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    • Blackest Noobs

      but if procedure was FOLLOWED…we wouldn’t have this shitty bill.
      it would be something else.

      • Sophie McMillan

        Not disagreeing – it is the “he is such a hero” crap I can’t stomach

        • Blackest Noobs

          that’s fine.

          i killed people in war too. and i wouldn’t want people to call me hero either.

          • Sophie McMillan

            I am not referring to his war record though. I dont udnerstand why people cannot separate his war record from his congressional record.

          • Blackest Noobs

            because that’s the American way.

          • little miss high and mighty

            So Cl. Ollie woud have been cleared to run again and again (haviing lost his VA elections?)
            How about Lt. Wm.F. Callie or Cpt C Medina?

  • Bill D. Burger

    Oh Lindsey____
    ♪ ♩Oh but it’s sad when a love affair dies
    The decline into silence and doubt
    Our passion was just too intense to survive
    Which means … I’M OUT! ♪ ♩

    https://i.redd.it/ioul8frk0ciy.png

  • Arcnor

    The Koch brothers and their apparatchiks (and probably most of the rest of the Insane Right-Wing Billionaires Club — where instead of firing the help if they displease you, now you can shoot them, or your money back!) have made it CLEAR that there will be no campaign funds forthcoming unless “health care” (read: freeing up massive amounts of money by not giving it to people who might DIE without it) and “tax reform” (read: taking the newly-freed up funds and giving them to ultra-wealthy clearly-deserving folks like, say, the Koch brothers, who most certainly will NOT die without it) are passed. Now.

    They want their money. They don’t care how it happens. They have the shriveled up little meat-pumps (I can’t, in good conscience, call them hearts) of Mitch McConnell et al., removed via dark (money) sorcery while leaving the hirelings alive (or as alive as they ever were, anyway) suspended over a blender set to “puree,” and they will drop said little meat-pumps straight in, unless they GET THEIR F***ING MONEY.

    That’s all they want. They don’t care who dies. They have no loyalty to their footservants in the US Congress — they can always buy more, after all, if these models turn out to be unsatisfactory. The peasants are undeserving of consideration — if they DID warrant any sort of kindness, they’d be rich, after all.

    They don’t care.

    THEY WANT THEIR F***ING MONEY.

    No matter who dies for it.

    • Three Finger Salute

      “Poor man wanna be rich,
      Rich man wanna be king,
      But the king ain’t satisfied
      ‘Til he rules everything.”

      -Bruce Springsteen, “Badlands”

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    Anyone else looking forward to hearing Trump’s speech tonight? Meltdown?

    https://twitter.com/AlexPappas/status/911328847328677888

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Again with the “Judeo-Christian values” crap. Er, but no, Ben, that is NOT what the founders said.

      But whatever, I’m all for the rats deserting the Good Ship Trumpypop.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Moore has not shown sufficient fealty to President Baby.

    • Rags

      Buh bye, Ben.

      • Skeptical_thinker

        No one would notice.

  • FlownΩver

    “And if they can manage to attract Donald Trump’s attention, he may push for the bill for a few minutes, too.”

    Unless he sees a squirrel, or an opportunity to grift more.

  • Panika MCD

    remember when I was complaining about that CPRIT hearing because that calendar didn’t make sense? (it didn’t.)

    earlier in the hearing they had 2 doctors providing updates on what they were doing with their CPRIT funding and one has a very promising treatment for glioblastoma–the one that McCain has. the initial NIH studies have people living 3-4 years after treatment. so…we might be able to keep Johnny Boy for a while to keep screwing up McConnell’s evil plans.

    • little miss high and mighty

      So we can get back Gabbi G.?
      Somebody needs to be Senator from Ariz. (one of the most privately health insured states in the USA)

      • Panika MCD

        Gabby Giffords was a representative, but I’d love to see her up there.

  • cheetojeebus

    Shorter Rand Paul, The flaw in Cassidy Graham is the lack of a provision for the wholesale slaughter of brown folks with antiaircraft guns.

    • Suttree

      That is probably what Turnip wanted those tanks for.

      • willi0000000

        nah . . . the tanks were to blow up the White House so t’Rump could put up something classy.

        • Suttree

          He knows what a good dictator’s house looks like.

  • bupkus231

    If fuckin’ Miss Lindsay and the rest of the GOP would finally admit that they cannot actually govern without bipartisan support ( i.e. working with Democrats ), maybe thye could get at least parts of their stupid fuckin’ “agenda” passed.

    But, of course, there’s no chance of that. The GOP is a cancer on American democracy and needs to be humbled ( even tho’ humbling someone who has no sense of shame is pretty much impossible ).

    Throw the bastiges out! November 2018 cannot come fast enough!

    • BadKitty904
      • jowgajen

        I may need this on a tshirt for subtle messaging while canvassing nearby R districts in 2018.

        • BadKitty904

          Not a bad idea, that.

    • Steely_Fan

      eta: “Throw the fargin bastiges out!”

      • bupkus231

        Buncha iceholes….

    • little miss high and mighty

      Start the freedom rider capaign for southern (and western) Dem. first voters and long term voter drop outs.
      Knock on doors, pack those union shops! organize, sign free speakers and musical acts, read long purge lists- all kinds of civilian gestures and handywork.
      MOBILIZE! there’s only a year and a month till 8.Nov, 2018

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Panika MCD

      we need to talk about your meme addiction, Bill.

      • Steely_Fan

        Nah, let him go, he’s good at it.

        • Panika MCD

          I’m not a fan. but I could just block him…but sometimes he has good stuff to share. I just don’t appreciate the 20 memes in 20 minutes thing.

          • mancityRed6

            hide images
            it makes things so much better

          • Panika MCD

            splainer it to me. I’m still a luddite.

          • mancityRed6

            up at the top, the little down triangle by your username, click it and then click “hide media”
            then it will just show (image) or (youtube video) and you can click to look and then click to hide

          • kaydenpat

            Thanks for that explanation. I’ve always wondered how to do that.

          • mancityRed6
          • Panika MCD

            will that take away my ability to see the tweets he shares? or will I just have to opt to open them?

          • mancityRed6

            yes, then it’s a click to open and close.

          • Panika MCD

            works for me!

          • mancityRed6

            and then say good bye to unsolicited dick pics
            https://i.imgur.com/MU4VBjl.jpg

          • Panika MCD

            so this does it for everyone, Katie?

          • mancityRed6

            errybody

          • Panika MCD

            damn. I just want him to curate things more….poop. but I can turn it back on so that’s okay.

          • mancityRed6

            it’s so much easier just to click, and then you can hide it again.
            plus it doesn’t take up space in the thread.

          • little miss high and mighty

            permasmirk is back- AAÄÄÄHHHHHHh!
            Reset phasers to full witchmelt mode!

          • mancityRed6

            I did this when someone around here kept sharing that god awful naked tRump statue.

          • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
          • Panika MCD

            no, dear. memes in moderation!

          • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

            If he goes, it’s shark memes all day everyday!

            :-P

          • Panika MCD

            I don’t want him to go. not at all. just to curate a bit more.

      • little miss high and mighty

        Bill’s memes keep me goig through the long, tough day and longer, tougher night!
        MOAR memes, Bill

        • Panika MCD

          mancity helped me. meme away Bill.

    • kaydenpat

      The American public gets the rose.

  • Upright Ape

    Greetings from Picture Rocks, AZ.
    Pretty sure it was all my snarky e-mails and agitated snarky phone calls that turned Ol’ John ’round.
    That shit works, by the way. Bother your Congress Thing on every subject that pisses you off.

    • Panika MCD

      it’s even more effective when you can find something to thank them for as well. and you should always call to thank them when they’re doing the right thing so they pay attention when you’re complaining.

  • BadKitty904

    We never know what McCain’s going to do next and neither does he.

    • kaydenpat

      LOL. Touche.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    No. Walnuts is not a hero anyone needs. He gave us Palin and regularly brings us to the brink so he can play hero by not actually pushing us off the edge. No.

  • Jamoche

    Aw fuck…
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41368478
    Puerto Rico dam bursts in wake of Hurricane Maria

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Oh crap!

    • Parakeetist

      Yipes

    • Bill D. Burger

      The countrywide power failure, the flooding and devastation. Puerto Rico, along with so much of the entire region, deserve a break.
      Recovery will be long and difficult for them. Words fail.

    • whitroth

      You saw that, too. They are *so* far up that creek….

    • Panika MCD

      why does POTUS have to sound like he’s bragging every time he describes a storm? he probably just found out that PR was part of the US. visiting is just adding insult to injury–same as it did when he visited TX and FL.

    • jesterpunk

      But the rich are happy because it makes them richer. (Warning the article may make you a little stabby.)

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/how-puerto-rican-hurricanes-devastate-many-and-enrich-a-few/2017/09/22/78e7500c-9e66-11e7-9083-fbfddf6804c2_story.html?utm_term=.31f5579af446

      Among those I interviewed this summer about Puerto Rico’s economic crisis was a local wealth manager who was extremely upbeat about the economic climate. Anticipating government default, she had redirected her clients’ assets toward U.S. stocks. Investments in the wake of President Trump’s election had been doing very well, she said, adding, “The only thing we need now is a hurricane.” She was referring to how such natural disasters bring in federal money for rebuilding and often become a boon to the construction industry. As I left her office, she encouraged me to buy stock in Home Depot.

      • Panika MCD

        of course someone has to be the shark.

        hurricanes and dam bursts are bad enough without this bullshit.

      • kaydenpat

        Cold hearted bastard.

    • kaydenpat

      Wow. Sorry to hear this. Puerto Rico is going through so much hardship already.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    This could be a place to start: Govs. John Kasich and John Hickenlooper detail plan to shore up Obamacare, break health care stalemate
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/31/john-kasich-and-john-hickenlooper-detail-plan-strengthen-obamacare/620140001/

    Maybe now, they will get some traction. And Hickenlooper hasn’t ruled out a 2020 run for president.

    • BadKitty904

      Where’s your “state’s rights” nooooooow, Republicans?

    • Mr. Blobfish

      I don’t think were ready for a Hickenlooper for president.

    • kaydenpat

      This is what we need — fix the ACA and stop trying to replace it with nonsense that won’t help the average American.

      • willi0000000

        the graham/whoever bill will hurt every American, even the rich . . . they will have to pay more for insurance and health care too.

        [ . . . but it sure hurts a hell of a lot less when the hurt is a negligible part of your income . . . or should i say “benefits package” ]

    • little miss high and mighty

      Only bug in Hick’s basket is Fracking- his go-to cash cow.
      Colorado gets its very first major earth tremor or stinkwater in the drinking fountains at the Pepsi center during a big AVs game and Hick’s chances for Pres would be murky as Frackwater.
      But, yeah having a successful Braumeister would be a change from Real estate grifter heir debtor.

  • Three Finger Salute

    That’s all well and good for now, but what about when McCain dies? There’s no guarantee that his replacement won’t be a full-blown Koch-backed Nazi. He or she (yes, there are girl Nazi Republicans too) might be the one leading the charge. Bernie’s bill is dead in the water and will always be dead in the water. The U.S. culture is simply not fit for nice things like single-payer. Especially since it’s only civilized countries like Canada that have a feminist head of government and don’t have something like the Hyde Amendment to pacify the tiki-torch-and-pitchfork Christians. Heck, Trump eliminated aid funding for overseas abortions, so Trudeau made up the cost as an emergency measure in the Liberal budget — which led to Fox calling for an all-out nuclear war against Canada.

    I’ll take whatever victories we can have for now, but suffice it to say we’re never going to quite roll that boulder all the way up the hill. We’ll always be stuck with the crippled zombie shell of what Obamacare could have been, had it not been Heritagecare ripped to shreds because it wasn’t pasty-faced 1950s sitcom dad from Utah who proposed it, but teh blah guy giving free slut pills and buttsex protections to hoorz and poorz. Not to mix metaphors, but that ship sailed — er, sank — a long time ago.

    • BadKitty904

      I think we can pretty much guarantee his replacement will be a full-blown Koch-backed Nazi.

      • Three Finger Salute

        That just leaves Ayn Rand Paul and the two “uppity” women. Who will get primaried by full-blown Koch-backed Nazis next time reelection comes around… or worse. I think it was Murkowski, or maybe Collins, who actually got told by one of her fellow (and of course, he was a fellow) senators, “Watch your back. We’re going to settle this Aaron Burr-style.” The old white boys’ club has never given up trying to repeal the 19th Amendment.

        • Rasilom

          I think they would have a REALLY hard time primarying Murkowski. They tried it once and she lost the nomination. Then won the seat over dipshit Joe Miller with a write in campaign. First and only successful write in campaign for senate

    • jowgajen

      Still think McCain is the establishment R “hero” of convenience, they don’t want to pass this bill. They will find another hero if they need one. And hopefully they will stop trying to break their own goddam rules and go back to 60 vote cloture.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      When he dies I believe Sarah Palin takes his place in the Senate.

      • Reximus

        Only if 1/2 or less of his term is left, it’s the law in Wassila

    • Mr. Blobfish

      The clock on reconciliation runs out 9/30. Not sure if the clock starts ticking g again next year. Anyone know how that works?

      • Rags

        As far as I can tell, the 2017 reconciliation will be burned up when ACA repeal fails. The 2018 reconciliation was scheduled for tax reform (to avoid filibuster). But tax reform was dependent on ACA repeal to generate bogus savings (ie dead people) to pass on to the Koch’s et al. So now they have strategized themselves into a black hole of parlimenary procedure. Any action outside of reconciliation (ie what some call ‘regular order’) is subject to filibuster. Here’s one link that helped me a little –

        https://federalnewsradio.com/budget/2017/05/long-term-budget-outlook-were-doomed-any-questions/

  • mancityRed6

    so someone from my Joplin days passed not long ago. it was unfortunate but not unforeseen.
    they’re having a get together at a bar down there, this Sunday. which is probably fine for those that didn’t leave, but it’s 143 miles on a Sunday night. if I didn’t already have the Monday off, it would be a hard no. but I do have Monday off, as a pure coincidence.
    I was gonna go with my boy from Lawrence, but he kinda got into a spot of trouble last night and now he can’t make it.
    I do have a couch (possibly) that I can ride for the evening, or I do have the cash for a hotel (except they’re all on the south side of town) and I do need to get out of town for a hot minute. it’s been almost 3 years since I’ve been down there.
    I’m just not sure if I’m gonna go or not.
    thoughts?

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Go.

      • mancityRed6

        I will. and thank you for your advice.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Go. You’ll regret it if you don’t.

    • kaydenpat

      Why not get a cheap place via Airbnb? I’ve used that forum twice and it’s been pretty good.

      • mancityRed6

        a friend from way back offered, but I said “maybe” since there was gonna be two of us and the guy who isn’t going was looking at hanging out with another guy who probably has weed, and might still be with that girl with the Jersey accent.
        but now, things are different.

    • little miss high and mighty

      Last minute membership in Hostels International.
      Gather fallen frit on the trip down.
      Crowd source the funding if Nec.
      yeah, go thee hence!

      • mancityRed6

        I talked to my boy Mike, we go way back to ’93. there’s gonna be kids, but he and his woman have a couch.
        unless I get lucky

  • Jennifer R
    • Parakeetist

      Nice

    • BadKitty904

      How cute!

    • Rasilom

      Looks awsome!

    • NotDarkYet

      Very nice! Is it bopped/shorter in the back?

      • Jennifer R

        Just lightly layered.

        • NotDarkYet

          I have a stylist’s appointment next week … gonna go for something like you did; that really looks sharp. Just wondering if my curls will play ball … LOL

          • Jennifer R

            Yeah I mean I just went to supercuts and told her I wanted it about ear level (we went to neck level first to see how that looked) then she added light layering to it and here am I.

          • NotDarkYet

            It’s close to impossible –for some reason– for me to tell/show the stylist what I want and actually get it. It seems they all have a very distinct artistic bent they exercise on my head/hair and expect me to like it. I once mentioned “layers in the back” and it resulted in a not-quite-military-grade high ‘n tight. uuurrrghhhh

    • kaydenpat

      Love your glasses.

    • mancityRed6

      I, for one, am a big fan of short hair.

      • Jennifer R

        I went for something that was unambiguously fem this time.

        • mancityRed6

          in my view, short hair is more feminine than long hair.
          also, it means less time to get ready
          although the ex had long hair and she did look good when she did the buns on the side (due to the heat)

          • Jennifer R

            I am looking forward to much less time caring for it in the shower.

          • mancityRed6

            I’m getting mine cut tomorrow, #2 guard all the way around. I love not having to brush it.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Very becoming!

    • SkinlessGenderlessMan

      Pretty! I like short hair…

    • Zombishroom

      Lookin’ good!

    • janecita

      Cute!

    • little miss high and mighty

      ready for that close up for the book jacket photo

  • Brian Fowler

    So Trumpcare is dead for real this time.

    Until the next time.

    Stupid question; if the only reason McCain keeps voting No is because the other Reichpublicans “aren’t following procedure,” why don’t they just follow this procedure (if there is one) and make sure they have his vote?

    • jesterpunk

      Because the proper procedure would let Democrats vote.

      • OrdinaryJoe

        McCain wants to follow “regular order” which means not jam this down the throats of America with no hearings or any of the normal review that would be needed for this kind of bill. The Rethugs know their bill could not survive the process of regular order so they are trying to slide this by using the slick as slimeballs reconciliation process.

        • Brian Fowler

          So they’re trying to rush it before people can read the fine print and he won’t let them.

          Damn, I’m almost ready to forgive him for Palin. Almost.

          • OrdinaryJoe

            Yep. If he ends up being the roadblock to Trumpyougunnadie Care he will have atoned, IMHO.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Zombie Trumpcare will, alas, never die. In one form or another (as the Rethugs have tried with SS and Medicare) the Ghoulish Olde Party will continue to attack the ACA. “It’s just what they do.” __ If it helps the ordinary American, they want it destroyed.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Not necessarily. They would have been just fine with a nationwide version of Heritagecare, if it had been Romney’s name attached to it and not blah guy with funny-sounding furriner name. It only became eebil soshulizm for hoorz and poorz when a libruhl with a tan birthday suit “culturally appropriated” it. “Obamacare” failed the first Kimmel test for just that reason. Single-payer will too, because it’s got an even “worse” crew of bad commie pplz associated with it: Berniecare, Trudeaucare and (gasp) HILLARYCARE.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx2scvIFGjE

    • Latverian Diplomat

      For all we know, McCain voted No last time because McConnell took the last bowl of Senate Bean soup in the cafeteria that day.

    • kaydenpat

      We can celebrate a little but be vigilant for when Trumpcare rises its ugly head again since it’s a zombie and will never die.

    • cmd resistor

      Because if they followed procedure people would be able to figure out just how awful the bill is because, hearings, time to read it, stuff like that.

    • Reximus

      Because the shittiest parts, which are the best parts for the GOP, will get amended

      • willi0000000

        the shittiest parts are the only things the gop wants . . . the rest is there just to pad it out to more than half-a-page!

        [ and camouflage ]

  • WotsAllThisThen

    “I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal.”

    “But I can, in perfectly good conscience, make Sarah Palin VP of the U.S.”

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Coherency is the hobgoblin of liberal minds.”
      — John McCaiin

    • stumpknocker

      there is a difference between bad judgement and no morals.

      • Reximus

        In the GOP? not usually

    • Panika MCD

      pretty sure everyone on that campaign cited adding Palin as a mistake.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        AOT, K?

      • Three Finger Salute

        Read the book (it’s available online) “The Authoritarians” by a Canadian poli-sci professor named Bob Altemeyer. The original was written about Bush’s second term. But there’s an appendix about the 2008 election. He talks about the deal with the devil that McCain made with the evangelical wingnuts who screened Palin in their focus groups as being sufficiently “appealing” (hint, hint) to their all-important “base.” When Obama won anyway, the party — and the country — lost their collective shit, because all the preachers were certain that Palin was approved by God himself. Half the nation had become convinced that the devil was literally taking over. It’s been downhill ever since.

        • Panika MCD

          there’s also Game Changer which had many interviews with many campaign staffers.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Truth!

    • kaydenpat

      We sure dodged the bullet on that one.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    We are roughly one sixth of the way through the Trump presidency, barring removal from office.

    • BadKitty904

      Ew.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      My hope of an unknown asteroid with an ironic sense of accuracy remains.

    • kaydenpat

      It feels like he’s been in office for a decade. Way too long.

  • BadKitty904

    Tom Price Spokeswoman Says Private Jet Is Needed to Reach Real Americans
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tom-price-private-jet_us_59c5163ee4b06ddf45f755a1?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    LOL So, he’s using them for crop-dusting or what?

    • mancityRed6

      chemtrails

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      He needs his private space to work while in the air. Also too, streamline travel times.
      AKA bull-dog-shit.

      • mancityRed6

        then why did he take Kelly Anne on one of those flights?

        • Anna Rompage

          He needed someone to nob bob with?

          • mancityRed6

            I shudder at the thought of what went on

      • Anna Rompage

        Yeah, because you can get so much work done on a 35 minute flight between D.C and Pennsylvania…

    • kaydenpat

      Yet VP Biden used to take Amtrak to work every day.

      • BadKitty904

        You know, like a Real Real American.

    • Anna Rompage

      Really? I find an automobile to be the best way to get off the beaten path….

    • jesterpunk

      But if he takes a commercial plane and rides in coach he may have to fly with Trump supporters or even Ann Coulter.

      • BadKitty904

        He’ll be spending an eternity in Hell with them, so he may as well start getting used to it now.

      • Rags

        What a delight to fly next to him and quietly read aloud from the executive summary of the IPCC report.

        • jesterpunk

          Or sit behind him and kick the seat the entire flight.

    • OneYieldRegular

      It all depends upon what Tom Price’s definition of Real Americans is.

      • BadKitty904

        = “Anyone who gives me money.”

  • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

    Ben Garrison has never been around a mirror. (I also posted a Hillary one in the Hillary thread.)

    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/irrelevance-park-ben-garrison.jpg

    • mancityRed6

      yeah, ’cause lower ratings doesn’t correlate with more people cutting the cable cord.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Or that maybe, just maybe, some people are getting sick to their stomachs watching gladiator contests that turn young men into 90-year-old Alzheimer’s patient from getting their brains bashed in.

        As for the entertainment awards I don’t really care and it’s got nothing to do with politics. It’s just irrelevant to me, because I don’t even know who’s who anymore and all the “good” shows are on pay cable anyway. Call me when Susan Lucci wins.

        • mancityRed6

          god, I watched all my children before work when I was a senior in high school and only had two classes. but that was ’92.
          I don’t watch award shows, way too boring. but I still watch the local team, I just do it on foreign websites.

          • Stranded Devonian Lungfish

            I read that as you were watching your *kids* as a high school senior before work, and I’m like, wut??

          • mancityRed6

            none that I know of.

          • DrBigHead

            I did exactly the same thing re. All My Children, except it was in 1975. Probably had the same story lines going

          • mancityRed6

            the college girl I was dating at the time said everyone starts on that show before they move on to more.
            it was noonish and I was home eating lunch and it was one of the only shows on at that time. a good way to kill a half hour or so.

    • The Wanderer

      I seem to recall a lot of people watch the Oscars, and the NFL had a bit of a slump in ratings for the first week (loss of markets in Texas and the SE United States due to Harvey and Irma, and I think the Emmys didn’t do too badly.

    • kaydenpat

      Who?

    • cmd resistor

      I didn’t watch these things before (professional football or awards shows) just because they aren’t my thing. This is just dumb, like all his cartoons. Is anyone feeding those poor birds?

      • Marion in Savannah

        Do you thing Republicans would waste their hard-earned dollars on some mooching rats with wings? (/snark… and “Feed the birds, tuppence a bag.”)

    • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

      I don’t get it

  • Joe Beese

    This one’s dedicated to Kim Jong-un. Chill out, bruh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6qbSHKzcmI

    • little miss high and mighty

      we loves, loves, loves LOVES Sun Ra!

      He travelled the spacewaves from planet to planet.
      He knew the future before we even got out of bed.
      He went STRAIGHT AHEAD for a while – that was big, too.
      Sun Ra, plays still in our head.
      (only kid still oboard, I guess), thank you, Joey!

  • CindyinEncinitas
    • kaydenpat

      Please let it be so!!

  • Bill D. Burger

    Trumpanzee waiting on all the winning:
    “You’re going to win so much. We don’t win any more. We’re gonna’ win. So much winning. You’re going to be sick of winning.” __ DJT (Columbus, Ohio Aug. 2016)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKWQp3KU8AAmSqz.jpg

    • kaydenpat

      LOL!!

      But let’s be honest, do we really want Trump to “win”? I don’t. His idea of winning would be a nightmare for millions of my fellow Americans including those of color and the wrong sexuality or religion.

      • Bill D. Burger

        My schadenfreude cup runneth over when he takes another kick in the groin….with votes, of course.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Not just wrong color, sexuality or religion. Remember Niemoller. It also means the wrong gender, wrong IQ percentile, wrong literacy ability, wrong scientific ability, wrong political leaning, wrong issues that they care about… and then there’ll be no one left. We know how this goes.

  • Jamoche

    Oops! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41367394

    Workers in Moscow have cut out part of a new monument to a Russian creator of the world famous AK-47 assault rifle because a weapon depicted on the statue was actually a German-designed firearm.

    A *WWII* German weapon.

    • h4rr4r

      Haha, of course a stg 44. The sculptor did not make a mistake. The stg 44 was the “inspiration” for the ak.

      • georgiaburning

        Probably true but not fitting the desired narrative.

        • h4rr4r

          Anyone else find it odd that a religion was celebrating a firearm?

          Ah Russia.

        • little miss high and mighty

          Turtledove? 151 order?
          Was the 44 also a spring action?

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    This woman, so much “with votes”
    https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/911321305575755776

    • WotsAllThisThen

      That’ll give anyone considering reporting a rape something else to think about, won’t it.

      • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

        I’m pretty sure that’s the point.

      • Marion in Savannah

        That’s a feature, not a bug. How astute to catch that.

    • Blackest Noobs

      because ,you know, the rapists are truly the victims here.

    • BadKitty904
    • OutOfOrbit

      what if she had been raped in HS or college?

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        I think it’s one of those lack-of-empathy and narcissism things Republican women excell at–“it’s never happened to me, so it must never really happen to anyone.”

        • OutOfOrbit

          that seems abundantly true

        • OutOfOrbit

          in that vein, her thought may be “it can’t be that bad, just lay back and enjoy it”

      • Walter Wellstone

        I doubt it. If it didn’t happen to her it’s not a thing.

    • Viktor

      Steve Mnuchin and Tom Price have to gouge the taxpayers for travel on private jets, because they are mere millionaires. They don’t have the Devos billions that allows her to travel on her private jets on her own dime. Poor Price, he’s just like us, an ordinary working slob

    • Joe Beese

      Well chosen picture.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Why would a woman want to subject other women to such torment? Does she hate herself that much?

    • bubbuhh

      I thinkz she hopin some horny BMOC will harass her seckshully if she make teh prospect less scary.

    • h4rr4r

      Why are the courts not handling these cases?

      Why would a university be a substitute for the criminal justice system?

      • Jennifer R

        Because they have their own police jurisdictions which exist almost totally through sportsball money.

        • h4rr4r

          I will admit one of those privileges I had that I wish everyone could have was a nice private University. No police on that campus.

          Most sportsball programs lose money. Yes even at big state schools.

          • Jennifer R

            Well when you go to a public school with 10K+ undergrads they end up with their own police force because of the size of them. That security then refers crimes out to wherever if need be, but you can’t just go to the sheriff or the real police and expect anything to happen because the schools are jurisdictions unto themselves. The actual police will only talk to you if the school police refer the rape over, otherwise depending on the state you risk civil penalties and expulsion.

          • h4rr4r

            We had 13k undergraduates, right now it has about 20k.

            I don’t understand how they can exclude themselves from state law. State law sets how crimes are prosecuted.

  • Marceline

    Save that breather for until September 30 has come and gone because you know these folks would happily do a midnight vote on Sept. 29 if they thought they had the votes.

  • cmd resistor

    Well I was surely afraid he would wimp out, so at least he’s said he is not going to. And, no matter what crap they try to put in there to get him to change his mind, they can’t come up with “regular order” by September 30, so there’s that.

    • BadKitty904

      I’ll rejoice AFTER the vote.

      • Marion in Savannah

        You and me both. I’ll fucking believe anything Unka Walnuts says AFTER the vote.

      • cmd resistor

        Yeah, I’m not REJOICING yet. I had just not counted him as a no at all, so at least there is one on the record, perhaps enough to start a very small stampede?

  • Reximus
    • georgiaburning

      25th anniversary reunion of a Delta Upsilon pledge class?

  • Bill D. Burger

    Alabammy smert’! Oh’ Roy’s ad boyz’ know their voters. Spellin’….whuuut’s that?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKVd57tU8AAWRTk.jpg

    • Rags

      that website goes to Doug Jones for Senate site

      • bupkus231

        Someone on Jones’ campaign is on the ball. He/she snapped up that web domain mere hours after the mistaken bus ad appeared in public….

        The real question is how long it took Moore’s people to notice and recall the bus for repainting…..

    • OutOfOrbit

      well it is alibammy, so …

    • Mr. Blobfish
      • Three Finger Salute

        I actually got in trouble in “shcool” way back in kindergarten for pointing out the teacher’s numerous spelling mistakes. A teacher who couldn’t spell “school,” what are you supposed to do with that? Anyway, I guess I must have had something wrong with me, because I wasn’t aware of the “social cue” that “you’re not supposed to beat the boss at golf.” I ended up getting thrown into the self-contained classroom and diagnosed with “oppositional defiance disorder” by the school psychologist (at the behest of the functionally illiterate teacher).

        So, I learned pretty quickly that school isn’t a place where you actually learn reading, ‘riting, or ‘rithmetic. It’s a place to learn the social hierarchy — rigidity.. No matter how wrong your “boss” is, he or she is always right. That’s just how things work in America. You could have a history teacher who says that Hitler did nothing wrong, and you know what that means? It means Hitler did nothing wrong. Disagree, and you’ll end up branded as a special-needs kid for the rest of your life.

        Mind you, this wasn’t even Alabama. This was the state that gave the world Horace Mann and Harvard. But, even Massachusetts has their pockets of ignorance. We never really did shake Puritanism 100%.

    • James Baskin

      Alabama certainly does derserve Moore.

  • Viktor

    John McCain has been through torture, now brain cancer, and still has some kick left in him. He makes President Trump look like a dotard.

    • stumpknocker

      i know your heart is in the right place but McCain should not be put in the same sentence as that asshole.

      • Viktor

        The same sentence with the bankrupt dotard? I apologize

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    I’m sure everyone had a good laugh about the matter.

    Saudi Arabia’s education minister has apologised for the production of a school textbook in which the Star Wars character Yoda is seen superimposed on a photograph of the late King Faisal.

    Ahmed al-Issa said a committee was looking into the “unintended mistake”.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d798935ef7c44ca474375c573847e20a01f556a2fdacb95fa1566908f7719ba.jpg

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41363156

    • BadKitty904

      Plus a few beheadings.

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        Their committees don’t mess around.

        • BadKitty904

          You can bet no one falls asleep during the meetings.

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

      Well, someone’s getting beheaded!

    • Marion in Savannah

      Yeah — our greatest and bestest “allies” in the whole goddamn region…

    • Mr. Blobfish
    • ManchuCandidate

      “Do or do not, there is no unintended mistake.”

    • jesterpunk

      Can someone photoshop Christie into the photo?

  • Walter Wellstone

    Walnuts!

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    I have taken the advice to retract this comment. I still agree with the content.

    • Suttree

      Erase that now Robert. Really. We don’t speak like that!

    • DTGstl314

      No. Just don’t.

    • Suttree

      Fine. If you want to be an asshole you will get the banhammer. You are a nice intelligent person. Do not act like a fool.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Dude, Give me some typing time. ;)

        • Suttree

          Ok

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Makes me wonder though: your right to free speech is way wider than European laws allow, yet my response would be considered totally ok in European law because I made distinction to actually doing it and feeling it would be the right thing to do if someone seriously threatened our freedoms and actually hurt someone, let alone millions of people. Your rights to free speech can be really confusing.

          • Suttree

            We are not operating under the rights of the USA. We are operating under the rights of Wonkette! If you want to talk that way there are plenty of right wing blogs where it is acceptable. It isn’t acceptable here! This is private space. And they have every right to dictate the rules on their private website.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Dude, relax, I already apologized plus gave some insight on my response. in case you missed it:

            May I weigh in a little on this? maybe my reaction was harsh to say the least but I think Europeans have a very small amount of acceptance to people being cut off basic needs.

            Maybe I was being out of line, maybe I was being aggresive, maybe I was being a dick.

            But, it all surrounded as it surrounds every day when I watch CNN. People losing healthcare for not being economically viable enough to maintain in a economic way.

            We once witnessed the cost of life for that doctrine. I lost 3 members of my family because of it and 4 more fighting it

          • Suttree

            I respect that sir. My Baka and Dida lost most of their families too. They met in a refugee camp(displaced persons) in Austria.My Baka walked 300 miles. My Dida chose wisely and took the train to the west. Everyone who went east was killed. My Grandmother met a G.I. in a hospital in England. I understand the costs. It is written in my family’s blood also.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            We are all in this together. And I once again apologise if I stirred up things. Off to bed now. Son is about to wake up in t minus 7 :)

          • Suttree

            Dobre dan.

    • doktorzoom

      See, if you start out a comment with “maybe this is against the rules” and then post something you know very well violates the rules, you really can’t be too surprised when your comment is removed. Or when I warn you that the next step will be an involuntary time-out from commenting.

      [Edit: Good choice to remove it yourself]

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        Now I’m not a racist, but them Blacks….

        • Robbertjan Brandenburg

          May I weigh in a little on this? maybe my reaction was harsh to say the least but I think Europeans have a very small amount of acceptance to people being cut off basic needs.

          Maybe I was being out of line, maybe I was being aggresive, maybe I was being a dick.

          But, it all surrounded as it surrounds every day when I watch CNN. People losing healthcare for not being economically viable enough to maintain in a economic way.

          We once witnessed the cost of life for that doctrine. I lost 3 members of my family because of it and 4 more fighting it
          .

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Ad this might be the worst piece of english I have ever posted but the emotions are simply too strong too edit it.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Sorry guys and dok. Sometimes my Dutch bluntness gets me. Sorry if I offended anyone.

        • doktorzoom

          I’ve heard Dutch blunts are rather famous…

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            If you ever get to stay here we’ll share one. Can’t promise you wil make it to the next place. ;)

    • georgiaburning

      I’m sure that General Kelly has thought about a 25th Amendment solution, rather than a 2nd.

  • Jeffery Campbell

    Looks like I’m losing my argument against referring to LIndsey Graham as gay/effeminate using the same logic that got me banned for saying Ann Coulter had an adam’s apple. Seems like a double standard.

    • stumpknocker

      well there is nothing wrong with his being gay, but that is about all that is not wrong about him.

      • cmd resistor

        I used to like him now and again because he had a sense of humor (rare for republican) and once in a while would do something right. He was the only one of the 17 GOP clowns I could stand to listen to in debates. But he’s gone over to the dark side permanently.

    • doktorzoom

      Frankly, you’ve got the writers on your side. We have avoided saying “Miss Lindsey” for quite a while.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        He prefers “Madame”, just kidding. I kid. It’s his business if he is gay.

      • Suttree

        Wait what? We aren’t using Miss Lindsey anymore? What is the proper name then Dok? Please help!

      • Jeffery Campbell

        But doesn’t rise to the banning level like Ann’s Adam’s apple? Look, I’m not trying to be difficult. But I learned a lesson via my ban. I think Graham is probably homosexual but I don’t think that is a reason to ridicule him. I used to do exactly that, but I realized I was wrong and I stopped.

  • Reximus

    Gettin all Mavricky…attaboy

  • bubbuhh

    In other good newz, Planet Nibiru not gonna hit Earth on tomorrow cuz NO PLANET NIBIRU!!!!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/22/man-who-said-world-ending-saturday-said-isnt-actually-ending/692907001/

    • CafeenMan

      No, it’s because Nibiru wants us to know it COULD destroy us but chooses not to. It’s the Senator McCain of Solar bodies – the “Maverick” Planet.

    • Thiazin Red

      Still going to have end of the world party though. Just have to buy some of the cakes we like and some cava. (Sorry end of the world party, if someone wants proper champagne they can pay me)

    • Marion in Savannah

      And here I was really hoping for the rapture so all them Republicans would be snatched up to the hebbin they think they’re going to, leaving the good earth to the rest of us. Shit.

      • Thiazin Red

        That would be pretty sweet. Can you imagine how much shit we could get done, and how much better things would be if all those people went somewhere else?

        • CindyinEncinitas

          I just want the better things part. I would be scouting empty mansions in Rancho Santa Fe for wine and jewelry. Oh, and an iPhone charger. Mine’s kinda frayed.

    • Suttree
    • SayItWithWookies

      Not yet, alright? I’ve got a godfearing Christian hooked and I’m trying to get his Porsche for five hundred bucks since he won’t need it after tomorrow.

  • Bill D. Burger

    McCain: “Fuck Trump! Fuck this entire crooked process. And fuck you too Lindsey_____ Feel my wrath.”

    https://media.giphy.com/media/lTKYaoO06909W/source.gif

    • Suttree

      This is definitely in the top 10 gifs evar.

    • ltmcdies

      did the Senator touch the orb when no one was looking.

  • NotDarkYet

    The man must have a vanishingly tiny pee pee:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41311526

    • bupkus231

      It’s all because that Ayrab guy has a bigger one!

      • NotDarkYet

        And THAT simply can’t be allowed to stand!

  • Jamoche

    Adobe just fucked up security big time https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/09/in-spectacular-fail-adobe-security-team-posts-private-pgp-key-on-blog/

    Or, reason #89142 why an “All” button is rarely a good idea.

  • *sigh* John McCain is certainly taking the Joe Lieberman role of “squishy Senate linchpin” for this round of the healthcare debate.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Oh yeah! We got ar’ Republican Preznit’…… You libs’ are gonna’ git’ it…..You’re Obummercare is ded’! ___ Ain’t that right John? …. John?….”

    https://i.imgur.com/QifJ4NM.gif

    “Sorry Dotard Don! I prefer presidents who aren’t fucking stupid and batshitcrazy.”

    • 451 Byrnes

      At least you’re not Hillary. Are you?

  • DrBigHead

    OK Lindsay, here’s your chance. You wanna better system? Negotiate with the goddamn Democrats!

    • CafeenMan

      If Democrats “negotiate” with the GOP then the only outcome is something worse than what we have now.

    • kaydenpat

      He won’t. Graham isn’t a good person. He’s as much of a hack as Trump.

      • CafeenMan

        But he’s far more intelligent.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          But doesn’t use his powers for good.

          • CafeenMan

            Goes without saying – he’s a Republican.

  • CindyinEncinitas
    • kaydenpat

      Bloop!!

    • mancityRed6

      I kinda hope he lives long enough to see tRump leave.

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    • ANNG14

      Awesome!

  • kaydenpat
  • Pinkham’s Law

    “Call my Senator?” I don’t think that’ll help, seeing that his is the first name on this travesty.

    • BadKitty904

      Well, hey, there, Mr. Pink!

      • Pinkham’s Law

        Hey, BadKitty! How’s things?

        • BadKitty904

          Damp, what with these hurricanes and all.

    • kaydenpat

      Call him to let him know that you disapprove of this travesty. I assume that Senatorial offices keep a record of calls for and against proposed legislation.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Actually, in my experience down here in Georgia it’s damn near impossible to get an actual human being on the effing phone. And believe you me they’ll simply erase any recorded comment they don’t like. SNARL.

        • whitroth

          Dems tend to take names and numbers. Reptilians? I remember one of the first time I call my Rep: my late wife and I had just moved to Chicago, and our Rep, first year, was Henry Fucking Hyde. I called about an anti-abortion piece he was pushing and that was when it *cost* to call long distance, and his SoB staffer *ARGUED WITH ME, ON MY DIME*

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          That’s why I’ve been using Resistbot to fax. Burr and Tillis (especially Tillis) tend to have the voicemail on and it’s often full.

    • whitroth

      Tell him he’s a PoS, and that he’s trying to kill you.

      Lessee, are you in a “stand your ground” state?

      At any rate, he ain’t gonna like next year’s elections….

  • Cogswell – In a Mirror, Darkly

    I’m not countin’ my chickens until they hatch.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • This Hellth Kare plán mäkes a whøle lot of since.
    https://i.imgflip.com/1wawhn.jpg

    • Arolpin

      You’re gonna get hop-ons.

      • whitroth

        Any hop-heads?

  • DainBramage

    “Most” is the most disturbing word in this tweet.
    https://twitter.com/AP/status/911337735163711488

    • BadKitty904

      Who, specifically, in the “U.S. Government” told officials, etc.?

    • WotsAllThisThen

      “Most?”

    • ltmcdies

      “Most” ..huh

    • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

      Still not as disturbing as “moist.”

  • Panika MCD

    you know how a lot of people hate the word “moist”?

    I hate the word “crystalline”. also “gossamer”.

    what words would you put on the SATAN WORDS list if you wrote the dictionary?

    reference: The Devil’s Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce.
    http://www.thedevilsdictionary.com/

    • Thiazin Red

      Sexytime, play used in the context of fucking. Cutesy baby talk and fucking DO NOT go together.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Content. It’s like ‘plant material’. Hate hate hate them both.

    • mancityRed6

      the ex was “moist” and “patty”
      and they are so easy to use in a sentence together.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      See also, ‘actionable’ along with any and all management buzzwords. I especially loathe ‘reach out’ because it imparts some noble effort on the part of the out reacher.

      • Panika MCD

        outreach is far superior.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        All the words listed on buzzword Bingo. I want to stab myself when any of them come up in meetings I’m attending.

    • Rags

      Architecting, natch. And natch.

      • Panika MCD

        I don’t recognize either of those as words.

        • Rags

          Ivanka invented architecting so it must be a word – that needs destroying

          • Panika MCD

            I know. I deny her the ability to invent words. she’s not a professional!

          • Rags

            Covfefe! There. I’ve run rings around yer logic!

          • Panika MCD

            you provided a famous typo?

    • HellhathnofuryDemme

      How about phrases?
      My latest pet peeve is: “I’m not a fan of ______.”
      Euphemistic and vague.
      Why not just say: “I don’t like _____?”

      • Panika MCD

        and then the ________ began?

    • SayItWithWookies

      I can’t stand the phrases “going forward” or “in real time.” Going forward only caught on because (in my theory) it seems aggressive, like chaaaarge or something. All it means is “from now on,” but being more vague, it gets used whether the action in question can be done retroactively or not: “Going forward I will try not to drop my cars keys in the toilet.” Well, you can’t go back and try not to do it, so the going forward part is just extra.

      And “in real time” used to mean that you were seeing what’s happening without any processing delay. The first time I heard it, it meant something: I was working on a submarine sonar trainer in 1986, and we actually had a computer that took the live sonar signal and displayed it on the screen with only a small fraction of a second of processing time — “We’re finally seeing this signal in real time,” is how our manager described it.

      Now it just means “live,” but like that term, it also means something you’re seeing that was recorded live; and I’ve also seen it used to describe something that was not being shown in slow motion, as in “we saw the slo-mo replay, and now we’ll show it to you in real time.” Ugh.

  • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher
    • WotsAllThisThen

      I think what the artist is trying to say is, your pets all hate you?

    • mancityRed6

      they’re an extension of the liberal MSM is what I read on brainfart comments.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Isn’t everything and everyone?

    • TJ Barke

      It’s actually one of the more coherent cartoons that Ben’s done. Of course, he’s basically only managed it in broken clock fashion.

      • mancityRed6

        which is weird, ’cause doesn’t the CIA deal with mostly overseas stuff?

        • TJ Barke

          It’s supposed to…

          • mancityRed6

            I’ll be the first to admit, I don’t trust spooks. like how they were infiltrating groups that were against W. or the whole Shah or Pinochet debacles. but they do get some things right, even if it’s a first time.

        • WotsAllThisThen

          And that’s a real problem when Trump’s people need to have a private conversation with Russian spies.

    • Blackest Noobs

      easy…the cartoonist is a right wing tool.

      • TJ Barke

        Make no mistake though, the CIA has been our enemy more often than it’s been our friend. COINTELPRO…

        • Blackest Noobs

          i rather side with the deep state than the donald any day of the week

    • georgiaburning

      He left out the Dulles brothers, I wonder why? Kennedy fired Allen.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Well, maybe the “deep state” wouldn’t have to bring Uncle Sam to heel if he didn’t get replaced with “Uncle Joe.”

  • 451 Byrnes

    Trusting a Republican is like sitting on a rusty dildo. It’s gonna hurt and you will probably end up with an infection.

  • Blackest Noobs

    i didn’t really think about this until now but i think Johnny being tortured and in a POW camp gave him patience.

    he bid his time until the moment was right to strike. and what he did earlier in the summer to squash the GOP’s repeal Obamacare plans and now wasn’t because of procedures, or because it was the right thing to do but to fuck shit up for Donald Trump by not allowing him a win.

    and though the bill would be disastrous regardless if it got passed, McCain just wanted to cock-block Trump of a win.

    this time, the pussy won….no pussy grabber gonna get a win here…and perhaps Trump shouldn’t have shat all over McCain’s “good” ( that’s debatable) name.

  • ManchuCandidate

    The universe loves irony. Lins and Turtle made the fatal mistake of making a 2nd low and slow pass over the target. McCain is the NVA AA battery that shot them out of the sky.

  • Bill D. Burger

    At Least Three Wealthy Trump Officials Used Private Jets For Government Work

    [New questions regarding travel arrangements for Trump officials is again putting a spotlight on the billionaires within the president’s cabinet. “I think we can confidently say this is not a common practice.”

    Posted on September 21, 2017, at 4:44 p.m.

    Tarini Parti
    BuzzFeed News Reporter

    Three of President Trump’s agency heads have been using private jets for government travel, BuzzFeed News has confirmed, following days of news reports and ethical questions about the administration’s private jet use.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/tariniparti/at-least-three-wealthy-trump-officials-used-private-jets?utm_term=.ub3RoZYEE#.qhW4g2633 ]

    They must need those private jets to drain the swamp, huh? Only the little people fly commercial.

    ~SUCKERS!~

    • Thiazin Red

      But, but dems are elitists! Trump loves the common man!

    • ManchuCandidate

      In the Trump Dictionary
      Drain = fill

      • TJ Barke

        They’re draining the swamp alright, and refilling it with toxic waste.

    • SayItWithWookies

      In a third statement to BuzzFeed News Friday evening, Carol Wilkerson,
      spokesperson for McMahon, said: “On the rare occasion when Administrator
      McMahon utilized private air services for official government business,
      she has paid for that expense herself in full, with no government
      reimbursement.”

      McMahon’s office better work on excuse #2 real quick, because I have a feeling that excuse #1 is going down faster than a cheap hooker on a Saturday night.

  • cmd resistor

    I would take this as a decent sign. Susan Collins co-sponsored a reinsurance bill with Bill Nelson (my D senator from FLA) that is supposed to help the ACA. She’s still not said how she would vote but she did say on Tuesday about Graham-Cassidy that is has “many of the same flaws of the bill we rejected previously and in fact, it has some additional flaws.”
    http://www.pressherald.com/2017/09/19/collins-teams-up-with-florida-democrat-on-bill-to-shore-up-aca/

  • Yellerduck

    So, one thing going on in Texas: We have passed legislation to collect voluntary contributions from people renewing their driver’s license to fund the processing of rape kits. Now that we are crowd funding basic criminal investigations, can we please say the government is sufficiently drowned and stop trying to cut back past the bone?

    • BadKitty904

      Since we’ve got all these well-trained militias about, surely we can stop funding police departments and the military. Right?

      • Anna Rompage

        Let the lynchings begin!

        • Magyar Has Had It Up To Here

          Did they ever really stop?

          • Anna Rompage

            No, but they did slow down quite a bit…

      • Marion in Savannah

        Oh, dear sweet babby Jebus — don’t be giving them ideas. (Well, except for the military. I’m with you there. They’ve got enough moneez to last them until the next millennium.)

  • Suse

    I, for one, am looking forward to the end of the world tomorrow. I will return some day as a pampered kitteh. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8288ee1be4664494250aaa388de1b5e21b201caa50dfcf8a5c4c78815d418a0c.jpg

    • BadKitty904

      Ma!

      • Suse

        Hey, kid!

        • BadKitty904
          • Suse

            OMG – I adore him! Let me get my dancin’ shoes on.

          • BadKitty904

            <– Watusis

          • Suse

            I used to know how to do that! Such great dances back then.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Love him! That’s my flaming youth right up there!

          • BadKitty904

            Well, come cut a rug with us!

          • Suse

            What a voice, huh?

          • BadKitty904

            Plus cute as dammit.

          • Suse

            I know. I had a huge crush on him.

          • Joe Beese

            Not just a great song and a great vocal, a vision of reconciliation between the classes.

            This always makes me very happy.

    • Blackest Noobs

      again? sweet baby back jesus….this is the Nth time the world has/hasn’t ended.

      WAIT…guys! GUYS are we all schrodinger’s cat?

    • Panika MCD

      but, Tsar Kitten, you are relaxing. wouldn’t you rather I brought the catnip and a tuna shake?

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Oh great, another pep rally to soothe all the butthurt (and tick-tick-tick of impending Russian investigation heat). After a hard day of golfing, he needs this.
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/911338971250216960

    • DainBramage

      Maybe someone told him that Alabama doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the US.

      • Suse

        Ha!

    • Thiazin Red

      Holy shit, I just realized what the greatest thing ever would be. If Mueller came to personally arrest him at one of his stupid rallies, right in front of those idiots.

      • Marion in Savannah

        There isn’t enough popcorn in the galaxy for that…

      • wide_stance_hubby

        Oooh oooh can he also be paraded through the streets for public ridicule and scorn and possibly jettisoned votes? Please!

        • Marion in Savannah

          With enough advance notice to let the tomatoes really rot?

      • Suse

        That is my greatest wish right now. All of ’em arrested at the same time all over the place, like the mass killings of the heads of the Five Families in The Godfather.

    • Suse

      I just can’t stomach this dotard for one more minute.

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        If “dotard” is an ingredient on Chopped, I agree. But if you’re talking about Little Babby Donnie, cheer up: He’s about to kill us all and it will be over.

    • cmd resistor

      What a dunce.

      • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

        obligatory: DUNCE LIBEL!

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

      Al Abama sounds kinda muslimy.

    • thewalkindude
  • James Baskin

    Atta boy Johnny. You’re giving Donny the sads.

    • Marion in Savannah

      As many, many, many others have said, I’ll believe Unka Walnuts when I actually see his vote. Not a nanosecond before that.

  • stumpknocker

    luther strange said trump is a man of principal last night, chalk one up for the atheist, God did not strike him down.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Just when you thought the Trump era couldn’t get any Moore Strange.

  • Reximus
    • h4rr4r

      Stop using Twitter this way. It’s stupid.

      • Reximus

        why?

        • h4rr4r

          It’s annoying as shit to read multi part messages. Those dumbass Twitter thread things are the worst method of communication.

          One nice long message is much better.

          • jesterpunk

            I agree with you about the long tweet threads.That is what sites like this are for, then it shows as a big text block instead of eleventy billion tweets.

            http://www.twitlonger.com

          • h4rr4r

            That’s really neat, but I am sad that this had to be created.

          • Reximus

            I agree that twitter wasn’t designed for these longer ideas, but it still gets the basic ideas around most effectively. Someone should fix that

          • h4rr4r

            No, it makes me ignore whatever they are saying. That makes it far from most effective. If you want to have a blog, then have one.

    • BadKitty904

      TRUE STORY: One of the guys I grew up with has always gone by the first letter of his first name – “L”. Because of where we grew up, everyone pronounces his name as “Ale”.

    • DainBramage
      • Joe Beese

        Exciting possibilities.

        But the day an American president goes to prison, air traffic controllers will have to start dealing with all the pigs on their radar screens.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          I blame Reagan for all the pigs on the screens

          • Jonny On Maui

            And all the free range loons…

    • Panika MCD

      I still think that if they really want to find evidence of vote changing, they need to look at the upsets in the Republican Primary because they’d be sloppier as earlier attempts. once they find those, they can look for similar trace evidence from the general election that mirrors that in the primary.

      • Reximus

        Maybe primary vote systems are harder to hack? dunno

        • Panika MCD

          they’re the same systems.

    • Rags
      • yyyaz

        Haas tells the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 21 that Wisconsin wasn’t “one the targeted states,” now he confirms that it was, but no breach occurred. His next statement will be that a breach occurred but it had no effect on the election.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          back pedal, back pedal, back pedal…

    • Bad Scooter

      NO server at a DeVos-related company in Wisconsin communicating with RussiaBank! YOU’RE a server at a DeVos-related company in Wisconsin communicating with RussiaBank!!!!1!!1!1!1!!!!

  • Bill D. Burger

    Looks like the fabled tales of Nixon wandering the halls of the WH are about to be eclipsed by Dotard Donny:

    [As Russia probe closes in, Trump wakes up early to obsess about Hillary Clinton
    By Eric Boehlert |SEPTEMBER 22, 2017
    Trump grabbed his phone early this morning to lash out at his enemies in both parties and find solace that lots of people are tweeting about him.
    Trump continues to be utterly obsessed with Clinton and the election where she received 3 million more votes than he did. Clinton has emerged as a powerful Trump critic in recent days, as she calls him out on the publicity tour for her new book, which is already a publishing blockbuster.]

    His obsession with the election, his popular vote loss and the Russia probe has him unable to sleep and wandering the White House halls.

    Bwwwahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
    https://shareblue.com/as-russia-probe-closes-in-trump-wakes-up-early-to-obsess-about-hillary-clinton/

    https://media.giphy.com/media/26uf2tLu6uYkb1tCM/giphy.gif

    • TJ Barke

      If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, though, right, dotard?

      • bupkus231

        You know, dotards can be wonderful people. We have got to start referring to Rump as a “malevolent” dotard, okay?

    • Thiazin Red

      He probably is afraid that someone will find out that the vote totals were hacked and that the result was invalid.

    • BadKitty904

      Good.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Somehow this doesn’t really make me feel comforted in any way at all. Actually, more terrified than before.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Me either. I’m not sure there’s a James Schlesinger type person in this administration to tell the military to ignore crazy sounding orders from the president, like he did during Watergate.

    • DainBramage

      If I were his Wormtongue, I’d be whispering one word in his ear, “Resign.”

    • yyyaz

      In the knotted nucleus of what passes for his brain, one neuron is trying desperately to convince others that his entire life is fraud. Shine, little neuron, glimmer, glimmer!

  • Thiazin Red

    Reading the Jenny Trout recaps of Handbook for Mortals the extremely badly written scam book, and in one of the comments someone said we all have Mary Sue fantasies, but most of us are smart enough not to try to print them.

    That made me realize mine are pretty low key. In my fantasy best life I’m the respected medical examiner in a small New England town where it is magically always October. I would meet up with my friends for coffee and walks in the woods while wearing really great sweaters that everyone would compliment me on. Basically your cozy mystery type situation. My cats are also not quite as dumb or badly behaved.

    So what is everyone’s silly world revolves around you self insert fantasy life?

    • Marion in Savannah

      I think every cat staff person has the fantasy that in that ideal world the cats wouldn’t be quite so dumb, misbehaved, or simply NUTS.

    • Raan

      Being a freelance computer tech living in Beach City. I’d set up a bookkeeping system for Greg in exchange for guitar lessons, spar with Pearl in a safe fencing rig, bumming around with Amethyst, talking with Garnet, helping Jamie with community theater productions, and organizing the Crystal Gem Auxiliary, a volunteer group that the Gems can call on if needed.

      Not, uh, not that I’ve given it any real thought.

      • Thiazin Red

        Good choice

  • Lyly Sirivong
  • RobKanC

    I can’t believe a god fearing republican can refuse to punish poor people for poverty. Jesus would weep when he finds out about this. Sad!

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste
      • jowgajen

        You know he was thinking “suck it Enrique” when he did that.

        • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

          And he probably thinks it’s because everyone thinks he’s so great.

      • bupkus231

        Pop quiz time! How many people can name all the countries tha these leaders lead? I have to admit I only got nine out of ten….

        • Spurning Beer

          Trick question — Trump doesn’t actually lead the US.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Justin’s laying low on the interwebz, I see. Smart move.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Never forget! ___ And ‘Why…why….it’s almost as though the Republicans have lost their moral compass, huh?’
    bwwwahaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..I know, can’t lose what you never had.

    https://twitter.com/WilDonnelly/status/911271806211895302

    https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/911266430942875649

    • BadKitty904

      Every. Single. One.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Well, if your moral compass points 180 degrees off normal folks’…

  • Scooby

    That reminds me. What ever happened with that wall thing?

    • DainBramage
      • Bill D. Burger

        And Donald: “Winter is coming.”

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          and it will be yooge! the best winter! and it’s definitely on its way, many people didn’t know that…

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        all in all they’re just a bunch of dicks with no wall

    • Suttree

      Something something whitewalkers? No spoilers! I still haven’t watched this season.

    • jesterpunk

      Roger Waters made them all cry and the wall is dead now.

  • BadKitty904

    Aight, my lil’ lambkins, I’ve got to go start supper, but before I do, let me repeat:

    HAPPY FIRST DAY OF FALL, WONKETTEERS!!1!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a66f675aaeeeec361368a83c9617b55bfb7d916534562fb8449509d20f18bc7b.gif

  • yyyaz

    Sent a Tweet to Old Walnutz thanking him for doing the right thing by voting no.

    • Marion in Savannah

      I’ll thank him AFTER I see his vote.

      • yyyaz

        I’m hoping he will get enough positive feedback to cement his position.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Gotta’ run! Remember: It’s Mueller Time

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKUstvrUIAAQXq8.jpg

    Resist!

  • ltmcdies

    Apparently there are more issues with this bill

    https://twitter.com/ShallTakeCare/status/911316352375209984

    • jesterpunk

      You can’t blame them for that mistake. Its not like they had 8 years to put something together or anything like that, they threw it together in a week.

      • bupkus231

        Aaah, the Constitution, it’s just a goddamned piece of paper….

        • jesterpunk

          Who knew there was more to it then the part that says everyone gets guns no restrictions?

      • yyyaz

        Otto von Bismarck laid the foundation for present-day Germany’s system in 1883.

        • georgiaburning

          Otto was thinking military preparedness plus workdays lost. Screwing over the Socialists was a pleasent side effect.

        • Three Finger Salute

          And that laid the foundation for HITLER!!!!11111!!! You don’t want to support HITLER do you?!? SEE?!? DINESH WAS RIGHT! LIBERALS ARE THE REAL NAZIS!!!!!!!!

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    ♪ Mrs. Trump you’ve got a lovely dotard ♪

    • Weird Fishes

      Winner. Well played.

    • Suse

      🎶 POTUSes as dumb as him are somethin’ rare 🎶

  • Panika MCD

    let’s start tonight off with some bad dancing across the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

    • Jonny On Maui
    • Lyly Sirivong

      I love this guy’s videos. The one from 2012 used to make me cry each time for some reason…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwe-pA6TaZk

      • Panika MCD

        they’re always really good. that one especially. was going to follow up with it, but you beat me to it!

    • Elendira

      I really like these videos. Show that people no matter who they are just enjoy having fun and being silly.

      Although I was saying, “please don’t get shot.” out loud when he was at the DMZ. Those guys don’t fuck around.

      P.S also insanely jealous of all the incredible places that he has gone to and the people that he met.

  • Reximus

    meanwhile at BB

    Bolt Upright • 5 minutes ago

    C’mon brain tumor….take this scum bag out…..I have had enough of this Rino traitor!

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    • NotDarkYet

      Dear gawd … just when you think comments can’t go any lower …

  • Anna Rompage

    Wisconsin, 20 other US states targeted by Russian hackers in 2016 election

    “Homeland Security told Congress in June that 21 states were targeted
    during the 2016 presidential race, and that while a small number were
    breached, there was no evidence any votes were manipulated.”

    Um, what about voter rolls? I mean with the voter ID laws they have these days, and few states that allow same day registration, wouldn’t manipulation of voter rolls that disenfranchised a person’s ability to vote, be just as bad as actual votes that were manipulated?

    • Marion in Savannah

      Worse, actually. Fuck with the voter rolls a certain way and “those people” (read Democrats) are stricken from the rolls.

  • Joe Beese

    Structural damage to a dam in Puerto Rico prompting evacuations.

    • Suse

      Dotard say he’s going there some day soon.

      • Anna Rompage

        Will it be a BYOTB event?

        bring your own taco bowl

        • Suse

          And BYOS, also, too.

  • La forza del resistino

    Good call John McCain, but Tom Cruise will always be remembered as a better fighter jet pilot.

    • Panika MCD

      Tom Cruise will also be remembered as a scientologist.

      • Jonny On Maui

        I thought it was for couch jumping…

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          shark jumping, also too

      • Three Finger Salute

        And for being 5’2″ version of Jack Reacher. “Reacher” as in someone who needs help getting to the high shelf at the supermarket. Dumb casting move.

    • Reximus

      AND he flew with the REAL Maverick…mwahaha

  • IdiotsforPalin

    I smell a tweet shit show on the horizon …….

    • Panika MCD

      is this really something that needs a forecast?

    • Magyar Has Had It Up To Here

      Day ending in “Y”

  • jesterpunk

    You’re a dumb one, Mr. Trump

    You really are a heel,

    You’re as cuddly as a cactus, you’re as charming as an eel, Mr. Trump,

    You’re a bad banana with a greasy black peel!

    You’re a monster, Mr. Trump,

    Your heart’s an empty hole,

    Your brain is full of spiders, you have garlic in your soul, Mr. Trump,

    I wouldn’t touch you with a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole!

    • Marion in Savannah

      The Grinch would be proud!

    • Panika MCD

      cactus, eel, spider and garlic libels.

      https://i.imgur.com/FKdYZVo.gif

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        I was very uncomfortable with morays when I first moved here. The first time I came face to face with one, it freaked me right on out. But now, after seeing many, many of them, in close proximity, I have to say I love eels. They are fascinating, strangely beautiful creatures. They will bite to defend themselves, but ONLY when provoked. They look mean and nasty, but they truly aren’t.

        • Three Finger Salute

          So I guess now you’re comfortable with social morays. :)

      • jesterpunk

        That eel is cute.

  • Reximus
    • jesterpunk

      Well at least you didnt ask them to define communist.

    • HellhathnofuryDemme

      Bozo!!?!!
      I object!!!

      • OneYieldRegular

        Look at his hair! It’s obvious that he’s a Red!

    • bbayliss

      Watching Vietnam reminded me of the accusation by LBJ that protests were created by commies.
      Sound familiar?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      communist= anyone I don’t like

      • Reximus

        dont they have actual words for that…”Libtard” etc

        • Magyar Has Had It Up To Here

          “Cuck” seems really popular right now

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          they’re flexible that way

      • Covfefe

        Republican = anyone I don’t like

    • aktlib101

      communism = corporate welfare in America

    • Three Finger Salute

      “Communist” = anyone with a semblance of human decency. See also the freakout when “Justin Castreau” actually tried to get America to treat their workers fairly, as a condition of renegotiating NAFTA. The fact that he (technically his team, but acting on behalf of the prime minister and the government of Canada) actually brought up the rights and humanity of laborers is Marxism 101.

      Not to mention Pat Buchanan already called Canada “Soviet Canuckistan” 25 years ago, and reason #1 was actually their single-payer healthcare program. Justin Trudeau is not a fist-pumping revolutionary. But he’s closer on the axis to his old man than he’ll ever be to Ayn Rand. Therefore, by American standards, he’s a Fidel Duddle.

      Why do Americans hate freedom?!?!?!?

      • Reximus

        No one hates freedom…it’s just that it’s no longer possible (or almost) to be entirely Free, unless you move to another planet

        • Three Finger Salute

          Well, Canada is going to be the HQ of the Federation of Planets someday. But they’re full right now and only accepting a select few individuals.

          • Reximus

            I’ve watched two installments of The Orville, which is the FUTURE. so no, Canada will merely be a freezer for the universe’s vodka shots

      • bupkus231

        That “Justin Castreau” nickname sounds like some tiny-dicked fat fucks resent the universal opinion that the PM of Canada is one attractive looking dude.

        IOW – more “compensation” from the insecure assholes who embody RWNJs….

      • Jonny On Maui

        Oh we love ’em for just ourselves. And hate them for anyone else…

    • OneYieldRegular

      John McCain is a communist? Call me crazy, but I strongly suspect that this person may not know what the term “communist” means.

      • Three Finger Salute

        No, they seriously believe he was brainwashed by the Victor Charlies to be a covert spy for the communists. Which today, are just called Democrats.

  • SkinlessGenderlessMan

    I am quite certain that there are many things about which I would disagree with John McCain. However, a glass to the man https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1115847013dc108e360e23c43cf0171bf84ff5aba150de1102f6d5cca6effe01.jpg tonight.

    • Marion in Savannah

      I’ll toast him AFTER I see his vote. Not until.

      • SkinlessGenderlessMan

        That’s a fair take. I’ll raise a glass then, also.

  • AmericanAssassinCaptainHowdy
    • NotDarkYet

      O.k. the spelling issue aside, but wtf is wrong with the people in the comments? Are they really professional photographers? Because to me, it sounds like baseless bitching.

      • Marion in Savannah

        I can see that you don’t hang out on photography sites much. Mr. MinS does, and pretty much all he sees is baseless bitching.

        • NotDarkYet

          I check photography sites occasionally (b/c of my teaching gig covering pg as a side issue), but other than Wonkette’s (which thankfully doesn’t allow comments) forums, I have declared total abstinence from those snake-pits. :)

      • Notreelyhelping

        There’s some dorky stuff in the article, such as the 8×10 being a unique camera (they’ve been used since almost the beginning of photography). The reproduction online also leaves a lot to be desired.

        That said, they’re cool photos and probably look great as prints. Photographers, though. You could post, hey, I just bought a $6,000 Canon 1Ds Mark IV, and someone would respond: Mark IV? LOL! They’re complete shit, sucker!

        Really, it’s just pixel envy.

  • Reximus

    For Canuck Wonkers…how do you donate to the Editrix? please dont say Paypal

    • Marion in Savannah

      I found a link somewhere (and I did have to search…) that let me make a monthly contribution using my credit card.

    • Jon Sussex

      OK, if you don’t say “Kirby Delauter.”

  • CindyinEncinitas

    The boss is golfing today at a San Diego Brewers Association thing. He just called me and told me he is paired with some friend and a Stone Brewery salesman. I asked him to ask the stone guy for some Punkindrublic. He says “Hey, Dave, my assistant wants some Punkindrublic.” I hear Dave say “Done!” LOLOLOL! I’ll let you know what it tastes like!!!

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      get some smoked arrogant bastard, also too

      • CindyinEncinitas

        Oh, I just remembered the other guy is one of the owners of White Labs.

  • sosuume
    • CindyinEncinitas

      I would go with “high” or “dementia.”

    • Reximus

      She couldn’t find a cool hat before the photo op, but someone came to her rescue

  • jesterpunk

    This is a pretty shitty thing to do

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ian-somerhalder-said-he-secretly-threw-out-wife-nikki-reeds-birth-control-pills_us_59c5443ee4b0cdc773311967

    “We decided that we wanted to have children together, and it was just time. But unbeknownst to poor Nikki, she didn’t realize that I was going to go in her purse and take out her birth control. By the way, it was the beginning of the pack, so I had to pop all those suckers out. It is a lot of work, especially after a little bit of sangria.”

    Somerhalder said there is a video on his phone of the moment recorded by a friend. Reed is apparently also featured in the video “freaking out” that her pills are gone.

    • Jonny On Maui

      Please tell me that’s criminal behavior…

      • jesterpunk

        She is attacking anyone for criticizing him. But it sounds like something that should be a crime.

        • Jonny On Maui

          I would surely hope messing with someone’s meds is a crime.

      • Marion in Savannah

        It’s at least a theft.

    • Three Finger Salute

      I don’t know who this guy is, but he sounds like a real piece of work. That’s in the same universe as Assange slipping off his condom if you ask me.

      • jesterpunk

        I am not sure who either of them are but they seem pretty famous. Yeah it is pretty much the same thing and its not respecting your partner which may not be illegal but its the basis of any relationship.

        • Maclare 🌋

          They’re a couple of actors who’s main claim to fame is being in 2 different vampire vehicles.

          • Three Finger Salute

            I guess they’re not the vampire-movie couple with the Mona Lisa Belichick facial expression and the English guy with Abe Vigoda eyebrows. Personally, I thought that sparkly-Dracula shit stopped being a fad a decade ago.

    • Panika MCD

      well, that’s a pretty good reason not to have children with him!

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      These stealth pregnancy guys do realize you can support a child by working part time at Gamestop. right?

  • CO
  • bubbuhh

    Trumpz n friendz really wantz to feel yore pain, so repeal dat Obamacare

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe381c010d2c3e9f0ec6c1baace1414cd1d861b2b48d8136c2bebca576f6e1a7.jpg

    • Suttree

      Needz moar blood from elevators!

    • Marion in Savannah

      Sticking poor Pope Frankie in there isn’t really fair. Just sayin’… Even if you think the church sucks he’s on the right side of things.

      • mary5920

        I have a feeling that being raised in the Catholic church has left way too many people with scars. I’m not one of ’em (at least in this lifetime) so I can appreciate this pope as well as a number of courageous priests and sisters.

  • lowenufc

    Plus side- might kill off Trumpcare once and for all.
    Minus side- Palin.
    Dammit, McCain. Why can’t you just make substandard frozen french fries?
    Wait, am I confused again?

    • Panika MCD

      you must be. Palin doesn’t need to be dragged into this unless it is Michael Palin.

      http://25.media.tumblr.com/7af82154451418f12e9618e35a5642fb/tumblr_mggqkc7IHM1r06r2oo2_250.gif

      • lowenufc

        Did bring Tundra Barbie to the nation stage… Just saying. Never going to forgive that.

        • Panika MCD

          apparently not.

          I just don’t see what the fuck it has to do with this vote.

        • bupkus231

          Face it, the way the conservative media fucknuts ( I’m looking at you, Bill Kristol ) were swooning over her, if it wasn’t Walnuts, it would have been some other rightwinger who would have fallen for Tundra Barbie’s grift. None of them can be characterized as being the sharpest knives in the drawer,,,,,

      • Doug Langley

        If only Bicycle Repair Man would appear and fix our healthcare system.

    • SayItWithWookies

      McCain only gets half a point for killing off Obamacare repeal (if that happens — as far as I know, the Wednesday vote is still scheduled) because he’s doing it for the wrong reasons. Graham-Cassidy is worse by every measure, but McCain doesn’t disapprove of the plan, just the way it would be getting passed. He’s not a friend so much as a capriciously-principled adversary making an own goal.

  • OneYieldRegular

    I cannot believe the manner in which Republicans pushing for Graham-Cassidy just go right out and say (I’m looking at you, Mike Pence) that it’s primarily an ideological issue, and make that their priority instead of the life-and-death decisions citizens will be forced to make regarding their health. And it’s such an asinine argument too, as well as one divorced from any consideration of the impact on potential patients (all of us). I mean, following this states-do-it-better logic, why isn’t the GOP pushing for the states to be responsible for their own bloody military defense?

    • Augustus

      well, I mean, it’s so hard to be consistent

      they’re perfectly happy using the federal government to terrorize scary brown families with ICE and talk tough about DEA enforcement on cannabis

      it really just depends on what benefits them in that particular situation

      it’s nice how you can tailor your beliefs that way, it’s kind of like gerrymandering your morals, so I guess they’re perfectly comfortable with that sort of thing

  • Nounverb911
    • Thiazin Red

      No thank you.

  • Oneofthebobs

    I wonder why John McCain likes to play hero on Friday, and douche nozzle on Monday.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Mavericky!!

  • memzilla Ω

    What’s that you say? You want a Friday night Rooshian news dump? https://twitter.com/yashar/status/911323084598206464

  • Jamoche
    • TJ Barke

      Pretty easy to explain, some animator wanted to see if they could get away with it.

    • bbayliss

      It’s a petroglyph.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    RACCOON RIDE ALONG WITH COLORADO SPRINGS POLICE?
    “Yes – hello, officer. I have a problem. I’m on your windshield and I would very much like to be safely on the ground again.” “It had to be a stressful time – a Colorado Springs police officer on his way to a serious injury accident when he was “pawsitively surprised” to find a raccoon on his windshield.

    To be fair, the raccoon was probably pretty surprised, too, to find itself on the top of a police cruiser barrelling down the highway.”

    And DON’T CALL HIM A RACCOON!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2202b55f20b8c5770300af98dc04c6d7717a9b729e4cee03d13e6d6f848f9863.jpg

    http://www.9news.com/mobile/article/news/local/raccoon-ride-along-with-colorado-springs-police/73-477693527

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    I must’ve called McCain 50 times on this one. Obviously, I’m the person you should be thanking.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Thank you, comrade!

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        In reality, if there is one person John McCain does not give an infinitesimal fuck about, it’s me. In the roughly 114 years he has been my senator, I’ve written him a lot of nasty letters.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste
      • OneYieldRegular

        Nice, but, you know, maybe not exactly the poster child for health care…

        • Doug Langley

          Jeez, you act like fried peanut butter, banana, and bacon wasn’t good for you or something.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Elvis: Joins DEA… dies of impacted bowels from painkillers.

          Willie: Longtime cannabis user. Still rocking in his 80s.

          • Arolpin

            Longtime MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF, LIKE OUTSMOKE SNOOP DOGG LEVEL cannabis user. FTFY

    • biologydave

      I know my family in Green Valley thank you

    • bbayliss

      thanks

    • Jonny On Maui

      Called him what?

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        You wouldn’t believe the names I’ve called him. Actually, you probably would.

    • When you’re next in Chicago, I’ll buy you any drink you desire.

  • Nounverb911

    Bill Clinton’s first novel “The President is Missing” will made for TV.
    Donald trump is reportedly planning on playing himself.

    https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/911339350427922433

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      I hear it’s a mash up of Henry Miller and the Marquis de Sade with a little Garfield thrown in.

    • Thiazin Red

      Blah blah, how dare they make money, forever unclean, etc.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Hey, VF. You know there already is a satisfying political drama on CBS called Madam Secretary. It’s going into the 4th season. It is produced by Morgan Freeman and Barbara Hall with input from Sec. Albright.
      http://www.cbs.com/shows/madam-secretary/

    • ManchuCandidate

      J Law plays the lusty young intern who falls in love with the Hero Preznit who is all but Bill Clinton in name!

  • memzilla Ω
    • Jamoche

      This is new? I thought they’d already done that.

      • memzilla Ω

        “In most cases, [the targeted states] said they did not know until notified Friday by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.”

  • Picabo
    • Three Finger Salute

      She should do a song about regretful Americans who thought Hillary was the greater of two evils. “I Hate Myself for Not Voting for You.”

    • TJ Barke
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      a friend of mine just double billed with her the other night

  • Weird Fishes

    How much of this is payback for all of Trump’s incredible bullshit during the election? Or has that already been discounted? After all, Donny really needs this to pass.

  • Jeff Ackerman

    Couldn’t stand the news had to go bake pumpkin cookies and banana muffins, the coffee is on Wonkette, stop by for a muffin, cookie , coffee or just to bs.

  • Doug Langley

    BOSS DIDN’T COME IN TO WORK TODAY.

    Wowza!!!! I found out I actually like working! I haven’t been this calm and relaxed in ages!! What an awesome day!!

    Now if I can just figure out what the hell I’m supposed to be adding to my already bloated resume to make the client realize I really do meet their requirements, I might have a good weekend.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Good day! Do you have a possible way to isolate yourself more from the odious boss? That might make where you are more tolerable while you’re sending out resumes. I suppose it would be wrong to hope that the boss gets a bad case of the megrims or miseries that lasts for weeks?

      • Doug Langley

        I’ve tried to keep distance between us, not always successful. But will put current relaxeness to work this weekend as I try crafting more resume stuff.

  • Panika MCD

    you know what? probably all 50 states were targets of Russian election hacking. this is not a surprise. guess what? TX government has about 2 billion hacking attempts per month and they only have to fix a handful of them manually.

    what’s scary is when local election officials are reported to be hacked…which we were told months ago.

    • Shanzgood

      A statistician in KS has been trying to get the 2016 gubernatorial votes looked at since the election because it was so close and there were some demonstrable anomalies. Kobach’s office has been killing those efforts, of course.

      • Panika MCD

        because if anyone looks into election frauds, it must be led by him?

        man, I do not envy you your state. but I’m glad someone is trying to look into it. I’d just say they should send their whatever FOIA is called in KS to local elections officials.

        • Shanzgood

          It keeps getting scuppered on legal technicalities but several Dem reps are trying to put together legislation to change it.

          • Panika MCD

            you’ve got to find some FAR RIGHT GOPer to co-sponsor it. it’s not hard to find one that is always going on about transparency. we did it last session. it was pretty awesome.

          • Shanzgood

            I meant the 2014 gubernatorial election. So this has been going on for a while.

          • Panika MCD

            yeah, but when you team up with someone from the FAR RIGHT it becomes much harder for people in between you to say “no”. we did it with my state senator and State Rep. Giovanni Capriglione.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Fraud on behalf of Republicans is perfectly acceptable. Voting for Democrats is what needs to be discouraged.

  • subatomic

    I think this needs to be said. John McCain is not a hero here. Among republicans he is simply the lesser asshole.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      right now I’ll take it

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        He owed us one, right Zip?

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          at least

      • subatomic

        I’m not disagreeing. I am glad he has come out against this bill. I just think any caring human being should be against this bill.

    • TJ Barke

      Shouldn’t we still applaud him for that? “Hey, you’re less terrible than all those other assholes!”

      • Marion in Savannah

        I’ll applaud him (weakly) AFTER I see his vote cast. Not a nanosecond before.

      • OrdinaryJoe

        The lesser of two evils IS by definition less evil. Out of desperation, I can deal with less evil as the alternative.

      • subatomic

        That should go on a card.

    • Panika MCD

      if the difference between the bill passing and not passing is a few GOP defectors, I’ll take it. they’re sacrificing lots of funding in doing so. telling Republicans to not be Republicans is like a bunch of non-voters telling the Democrats what their platform is.

      • jesterpunk

        Uhh…

        • Panika MCD

          you have a problem?

          • jesterpunk

            We are kind of letting a bunch of non voters decide what the Democratic party platform is.

          • Panika MCD

            I’m not!

          • jesterpunk

            I know your not but some of the leaders are because of some stupid unity BS.

          • Panika MCD
      • subatomic

        I’ll take it as well. However, McCain is 80 and was just re-elected to a 6 year term. He is also already extremely wealthy. He is sacrificing nothing by doing this. How does that make him a hero? I personally think he is just trying to cement his legacy as a ‘maverick’ without any real risk.

    • Nounverb911
      • Panika MCD

        to be fair, the guy was already a war hero.

  • Zippy W Pinhead
  • Nounverb911
    • TJ Barke

      Fucking devious shitbags…

    • Walter Wellstone

      Looks like sabotage to me.

    • spangled

      We dems need to SOUND THE ALARM during the open enrollment period. They’re trying to make it so there’s no advertising and no one can sign up, so we need a lot of social media grassroots advertising to get the people on insurance who need it.

      • Jamoche

        Just like voting hours.

      • Three Finger Salute

        “We’re sorry. Your post has been removed for being in violation of Facebook’s Community Guidelines. Please refer to our Terms of Service, available at whitehouse.gov.ru. Thanks for using Facebook! Please to make more cultural learnings for Dear Leader and Chechen Dagestan!”

      • Yes please. We navigator folks need as much help as possible.

        They’ve backpedalled on some of this when pushed.

    • jesterpunk

      “But the plans were on display…”

      “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

      “That’s the display department.”

      “With a flashlight.”

      “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

      “So had the stairs.”

      “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

      “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

  • Beowoof14

    Keep calling cause they need to hear over and over how absolutely rotten this bill is. Don’t trust any republican.

    • Nounverb911
      • mancityRed6

        why won’t those bookends just die already?

        • Marion in Savannah

          Only the good and virtuous die young. (Which may explain why I’m such an old fart…)

          • mancityRed6

            good, I’ll live to see a ripe old age then.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Trust me — it ain’t all it’s cracked up to be! I’m taking my creaky old joints off to dinner now.

          • mancityRed6

            yet, I hear my ankles and toes pop when I walk across anything on a cooler morning. and my knuckles on my left hand do so continuously.

          • Shanzgood

            *glances at Popeye’s wings and biscuits*

            Uh huh

          • mancityRed6
          • Shanzgood

            That’s mean!

          • mancityRed6

            I’m just up the road a ways.
            *looks at apt*
            no. just no. oh god, no

      • Thiazin Red

        Who is worse? They do actually donate a ton of their own money to cultural stuff, however they are more competent.

    • bbayliss

      ever.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Absolutely. That third ‘NO’ is needed on the record.

  • agnosticsdonthatemuch

    I can’t believe this article didn’t shout that the reason for the all out war to get ObamaCare repealed is because the donors, including the KOCH brothers, are demanding it.
    They must free up the money needed to give money to the wealthy via Tax Reform!!!
    The donors have stated their Piggy Bank is shut until the GOP run government gets shit done!. Here is the link:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/26/koch-network-piggy-banks-closed-republicans-healthcare-tax-reform

    • Three Finger Salute

      They are pure evil. They know that people will die from this — not only do they not care, they want that to happen, because all those worthless poors keep voting Democrat and getting in the way of them owning absolutely everything.

      The “social issue” stuff like punishing slooty slootz and teh gayz, that’s just icing on the cake and a bonus for the morality-obsessed branch of the baggers. In reality, the Kochs and their trained elephants — AOT,K, whether outwardly religious or not — just want to fucking kill us all. Indirectly… with votes.

      It’s called decimating the population. Decimating = cutting down by 10%. In a country of about 350M, that’s 35M. Need I preach to the choir about what this adds up to (or subtracts from), in fancy-schmancy metric-system quantum Timbit fuddle-duddle fuzzy friends math?

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e62ded998b0278bd550036bb9d0014c613be45d9bd9c8a9be811a5c314baff00.jpg

      • Jonny On Maui

        “Enemies both foreign and domestic…”

      • Shanzgood

        Why would they want so many to die? There’d be a labor shortage and then they’re fucked because labor would have more bargaining power. It makes more sense that they just want to find all the ways to make and keep as many people as possible poor and desperate.

        • georgiaburning

          Immigration would suddenly become a good thing.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      that’s mostly because we all knew it. Fuck those guys…

    • Panika MCD

      you can’t believe it? because it’s totally believable to me.

    • It’s been circulating for a couple days now.

  • Nounverb911

    Lindsey Graham is starting to fade away like in “Back to the Future”.
    (Thanks Dave Itzkoff /FIFY)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4de3ccff3d7434f9f71a06cbf708c7aa1b3192f387927334c3563b152346c555.jpg

    • Marion in Savannah

      Worst. Summer. Camp. Reunion. Photo. EVER.

    • Bill D. Burger
      • Thiazin Red

        All three of them are my Grandpa who refuses to buy a proper hearing aid.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          For the past two months my dad’s hearing seemed to have gotten so bad we were really worried. He has the best hearing aids available and we were still hollering at him from 2 feet away. My sister told me the other day that his doctor told him one of his hearing aids was dead and was actually acting as an earplug.

    • Raan

      May they all be sent headward, free now to rise, that they be inhaled by the giant heads and sneezed back to us as better babies.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      why hasn’t Lieberman faded away yet?

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Nounverb911

      And look who’s already down there campaigning for Moore.
      https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/911031258926415872

      • Everrett Fanuelli

        Nice boots, Asshole

      • Bill D. Burger

        Damn! Somebody move the rock and let Typhoid Sarah out!
        Sheeesh!

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        What the fuck is Gorka doing there?

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          needs a job…

        • SayItWithWookies

          Supporting Trump by supporting the candidate Trump isn’t supporting?

        • Apparently Gorka and Palin have teamed up. Can you come up with a viler PR team?

          No seriously. Can you?

      • janecita

        She isn’t aging well, yuck!

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          poor Rich Lowry- no moar starbursts

      • Lyly Sirivong

        You’re the swamp !

    • Ms.Moon

      There needs to be a jar of mayo and white bread in this picture somewhere could this crowd be any more caucasian. This is definitely a fantastic picture of the Republican party though, fat, most over forty and white, white, white.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Well, one of them at least must have a brown bag with a sammich of Wonder bread, mayo, and 2 slices of bologna. They may have traveled more than 5 miles from home, and you can’t trust the food that far away from home.

        • bbayliss

          2 slices? socialist.

          • Shanzgood

            It’s ok, he’s not sharing.

      • Pisto75666

        All of the signs seem to be spelled correctly….Wonder which one’s the Dem spy? /s

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Beer guts count as two people.

    • bubbuhh

      No one’s takin a knee 4 teh Pledge?

    • janecita

      I love the “Let’s kiss up to the rich,” signs. Fucking clueless losers!

    • SayItWithWookies

      Is it Moob Self-Exam Day down there or something?

  • Bitter Scribe

    “Of course, I’m disappointed,” Mr. Cassidy said in an interview, “but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to stop working for those folks who can’t afford their premiums” (NYT)

    You fucking useless asswipe, your bill would increase my premiums 700%. Just STOP FUCKING WORKING FOR ME, OK??

    • Sheepshagger

      “Mistah Kurtz, he dead”.

    • h4rr4r

      He means people who make too much to get subsidies.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Well? See? You’re about to turn into one of those folks he’s working so hard for. And he’s working for against you as hard as he can.

    • And the reason premiums in ’18 are going up as much as they are IS BECAUSE OF THESE REPUBLICAN SHENANIGANS

  • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

    The two breasts to the immediate right of me are not natural. And the scent of stripper overwhelms me. Shields up!

  • Moebym of the Returners

    Inexplicably experienced a strong wave of sadness while taking my daily stroll today. It was as if the entire weight of all the human tragedies of the present and past came crashing down on me, and I feel entirely helpless to make everything right again.

    • Jonny On Maui

      Sorry. You’ve turned out to be human.

    • Panika MCD

      would you like a cheer up in the flavor of people coming together to overcome one of these tragedies or people coming together to just be silly?

      • mancityRed6

        pitchforks and torches mandatory or optional?

        • Panika MCD

          I’m not a fan of the pitchforks and torches method.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGCUSnn-1xY

          • mancityRed6

            she did a filibuster. Cruz asked for time after everyone had gone home and he did not do one.

          • Panika MCD

            we did a people’s filibuster!

          • mancityRed6

            a _real_ filibuster.
            in the fed senate, all they have to do is threaten one.
            that’s what should have been the nuclear option. go ahead, do it.
            they’re all so ready to catch the last plane home they don’t want it to happen so they cave.

    • Marion in Savannah

      I’ve had those moments too. Given the current state of the world I’m surprised more folks don’t. Try to take some comfort in the sure and certain knowledge that you’re not alone, and that the Wonketteers are here to love and support you. And also too, that feeling will pass. You won’t be wandering in the Slough of Despond for long. (((hugs)))

    • So what you’re saying is that you are a compassionate, empathetic, and understanding person.

      We could all benefit from such traits.

      • Moebym of the Returners

        Sometimes I wonder if those traits are drawbacks.

        • mancityRed6

          last night was not good for me, those last two stories.
          but, just think, the world is supposed to end tomorrow.

          • sarafina

            I’ve heard THAT before.

        • I would suggest otherwise. A life fully realized is a gift and a burden, but mostly a gift.

        • mancityRed6

          and, no. just don’t let it all overwhelm you.
          take a personal day, away from everything.

    • Sheepshagger

      Over the years working in a criminal court I’ve learned that you have to take human misery lightly. The supply just outstrips demand exponentially. There’s too much to take so you can’t.

      • OutOfOrbit

        anything else leads to madness

      • Ωbjectifier

        Precisely why I no longer work in EMS. I ran out of compartments.

        • Sheepshagger

          Being told to get fucked by drunks you’re trying to save does get tiring.

          • mancityRed6

            the one EMT I knew talked about heroin overdoses in the late ’90s and that’s why…or, well, one of the reasons why.
            it’s Friday, I don’t want to say.

      • mancityRed6

        yep. nope. cannot do that.
        I am glad I don’t have a 24 mile drive anymore so I don’t see the roadkill.

        • Sheepshagger

          Sometimes I worry I’m becoming so callous I’m not really human anymore, but after a decade plus of rape, murder despair and horror you either adjust or go insane. There’s a finite amount of human suffering you can take on.

          • mancityRed6

            yep, nope. I cannot do your job. the level of human interaction at work is more than enough to keep me going/enrage me.
            you’re good.

    • Three Finger Salute

      You and me both. At least misery loves company, so if you can, take some solace in knowing you’re not alone. Have a unicorn hug, a postcard from a faraway land that may or may not really exist.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c16f5116bee4b68c2d30deb1d0830004661a91a19e0ba026f245f7ee4c76b4f5.jpg

      • Moebym of the Returners

        I know I’m not alone, but this knowledge doesn’t help.

        • mancityRed6

          step back, you’re in too deep.
          take a day off.
          seriously.
          take a day that is all about you.

    • Panika MCD
      • mancityRed6

        I’m glad that voice over guy has got a paying gig, that’s all I’m saying.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i get that all the time but i am certified mental

    • mancityRed6

      it’s tough, it really is. and it’s hard to take a step back from it all, I know.
      but sometimes, you just have to.
      if you have free time, volunteer.
      or post memes on here, or just cuss up a storm.
      just realize, we got through W, we _can_ do this.

      • Moebym of the Returners

        W was a light stroll in the park compared to this.

        • mancityRed6

          yes, but *touches/knocks wood*, we won’t have to put up with him for nearly so long.

  • Nounverb911

    There once was a McCain from Nantucket,
    Who told the republicans to fuckit….

    https://twitter.com/Limerick_News/status/911302101854294016

  • Charon_69

    ‘Doctor it hurts when I do this’
    ‘Well stop doing that’
    ‘Gee thanks Doc you’re a genius!’
    -Marx

    • Raan

      If I could walk that way I wouldn’t need the talcum powder.

    • mancityRed6

      “can I still play the piano?”
      “yes”
      “great, I couldn’t before.”

      • Doug Langley

        Fun fact: they copied that joke on The Bionic Woman.
        “Don’t worry, Jamie, you’ll do everything you could before.”
        “Can I play the piano?”
        “Of course.”
        “That’s fantastic! I couldn’t before.”

        • mancityRed6

          Henny Youngman (and probably older than him) libels

        • Raan

          And in the musical adaptation of Planet of the Apes in that Troy McClure Simpsons episode.

  • cosmiccowgirl

    This gave me an excuse to go back and watch this again from when he knocked down the bill last time in a more dramatic fashion. Still stone cold.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1XKVvHroo

    • mancityRed6

      yeah, that did make me LOL
      that withering glare from the turtle doesn’t work

    • CindyinEncinitas

      #gangsta

    • Joe Beese
    • Speaking as an actor who has had many Shakespearean deaths, i would KILL for that scene.

  • Nounverb911

    When does trump make Arpaio Viceroy of Arizona and declare martial law?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/911173124976193536

    • Raan

      Right after the Supreme Court decides Shiawase v. NRC.

    • ltmcdies

      Does Trump realize that being the Republican who saved Obamacare might not be the slur he thinks it is

      • sarafina

        What about Murkowski and Collins?

  • Bill D. Burger
    • And now john McCain: i like people who don’t end up in jail.

  • Sheepshagger

    This is reassuring. Someone should do a super cut of trump not knowing who’s near him. https://twitter.com/aynrandpaulryan/status/911000417806409728

    • mancityRed6

      I’m guessing that hat’s for sale.

      • Raan

        Along with the rest of the government.

        • mancityRed6

          he said he’d make millions off of being prez, right?
          *pulls out the rusty garden weasel of votes*

    • BosGrl

      uh wut

    • Raan

      A talented man would spin that into a joke.

      “My wife really wanted to be here today…so she is.

      • Sheepshagger

        “I’m taking her furniture shopping!”

    • Doug Langley

      Well, this is the same man who missed the limousine 5 feet in front of him.

    • Joe Beese

      She really wanted to be there and so there she is.

      Non-gaffe.

  • sosuume
  • Just saw a turbo Fiat 500 Abarth outside my usual Italian restaurant. Very stylish looking ride.

    Top speed 132mph. But where in America is it even safe to do that speed with our deteriorating infrastructure?

    I was thinking maybe the Autobahn. But then I was reading about half of Germans, especially the Olds want a speed limit of 93mph.

    Currently about half of German roads HAVE NO SPEED LIMITS.

    Guess what?

    Germany has more fatal deaths than France or UK.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/666e9cd4a265b9ed41ca02a10c0c492b00e1fff3bc7abf7fa998e56df8a7c276.png

    • Shanzgood

      I have one of those but I never go that fast. My son probably has, though. I don’t want to know about it.

    • Jonny On Maui

      Do you know who else liked Autobahns?

      • Eisenhower?

        • Nounverb911

          Me!

          • My experience was in a rented VW with a top speed that kept me out of the fast lane.

            I did flog it for what it was worth at the Nurburgring however.

        • Arolpin

          Did you learn this reading ‘The Prize’ or ‘Oil and Islam’? I think it’s ‘The Prize’ that describes Ike’s post-WWI assignment trying to drive an army convoy across the US that let to his advocating for the Interstate Highway System. I think it took 93 days to complete the task, and even as a very junior officer, it was obvious that mechanized warfare would require a strong road network. (The same book also talks about how Churchill as Secretary of the Navy or the UK equivalent led the modernization of the British Navy, moving from coal to oil, over strenuous opposition from the Navy and the coal merchants.)

          • The Interstate highway system was already planned by Democrats in the 30’s.

            Eisenhower secured the funding, but it wasn’t an original idea or even based on the German Autobahn.

      • altleftjohn

        Can we have a hint?

      • Doug Langley

        People who hate Manual?

      • Ωbjectifier

        Kraftwerk?

      • sarafina

        Did Adolf Hitler actually order them built for moving war equipment?

    • Nounverb911

      But how many of those German deaths are German? How many are foreigners that can’t handle those speeds….(Four years ago next week, I got up to 130 on the Autobahn between Dresden and Berlin).

      • I went 105mph in my 87 CRX on freshly paved rural back roads in the Midwest.

        OMG. Never again.

        The ride was too soft.

        My friends Porche and VW Golf were both stiffer, but we never went dat fast.

        Young N Foolish 😎

        • Arolpin

          My ’91 Sentra SE-R would catch air on the bumps driving A1A between Mayport and St. Augustine if I was going over about 120. The car would top out at 128mph, unless I was on the downslope of a big bridge, and then I could hit 135mph. The best sleeper car I’ve ever had, appliance white and looked like an econobox, but could keep up with V8 Mustangs and dust them in the corners.
          My friend swore his 914 would do 140mph, but by the time I bought it off of him, it struggled to do more than 120, but that was more than fast enough in that little deathtrap.

      • DrBigHead

        In 1982 I was able to meet one of my life goals, that being driving a car as fast it would go on the Deutsche Autobahn. Granted it was a Ford Escort with a top speed of about 100 mph, but still.

        I seem to recall the Germans saying the Swedes were the most dangerous drivers. I would have though the Belgians.

      • Speed is one thing that no one actually can handle for ever.
        Ask any dead NASCAR driver.
        The statistics against are overwhelming on this one. You might not die, but the chances increase as speed increases, and the chances you will kill someone else are like doubled or something ridic

        • Exactly. It’s basic physics.

          Each tire only touches the ground on an area about the size of your palm. Whoa.

    • Gigglesnort

      My dad had a Fiat Spider back in the day. Stylish but not reliable. You know what Fiat stands for? “Fix it Again, Tony”.

      • Shanzgood

        No shit. I had one of those as well. And several Alfas (courtesy of my XH).

        • Yeah I had a friend with an old Alpha Romero convertible.

          Said it was like dating the best looking whore in town. 😌

          • Shanzgood

            We had an Alfa Sud for a when we lived in the UK. My XH had a minor fender bender in it that revealed the extent of the shitty Russian steel used to manufacture them. It crumbled like pie crust.

      • Yeah, those Spiders made Click and Clack rich.

    • I’ve never been more terrified than driving with a German client after a long meal with wine at speeds i dared not verify.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Crashes at those speeds are almost invariably fatal. I drove on the Autobahn out of Munich, and you really have to stay in the right lane. Driving in the left lane at 80 mph in a rented econobox, and having a Porsche closing in on you like you’re standing still, is terrifying.

    • HorseChestnut

      I prefer non-fatal deaths, myself.

    • Arolpin

      It’s not the top speed of 132 that makes it desirable, but rather the acceleration from 50mph to 80mph to pass that’s so important, or the 0-80mph that you need to do quickly so that you can merge onto the highway and not get smashed.
      Plus the fact that you’re using bad data. You need to compare fatalities per 1 billiion vehicle kms, which is basically the number of deaths for every 1 billion km driven. In Germany the rate is 4.9, in France it’s 5.8, and in the UK it’s 3.6. It’s much higher in the US, 7.1.
      So, the numbers say that it’s safer to drive in Germany than either France or the US, and safer still in the UK.
      Hell, the 3 cars parked at my house now have top speed of 165mph, 155mph, and 185mph, though the fastest one isn’t mine; I’m storing it for a friend for a couple of days. You know where I get to drive these cars fast? I go to a racetrack, and SCCA and Tirerack spent all summer doing track nights so that people could drive fast safely.

      • but rather the acceleration from 50mph to 80mph to pass that’s so important

        I’ve driven mostly Econo cars my whole life and never had a problem passing another car.

        It’s more about “planning ahead” to pass a car, rather than reacting.

        or the 0-80mph that you need to do quickly so that you can merge onto the highway and not get smashed.

        My 0-60mph in 11 seconds Prius C merges quite nicely on any freeway in America.

        Again, it’s about the skills and judgement of the driver, not the car.

  • Nounverb911
    • he had Cindy do the thanking?

      • Joe Beese

        Right-wingers already condemn him as a crypto-liberal sucking up to the “Hollywood elites”.

        Can’t be seen in a friendly pose with Kimmel.

  • Three Finger Salute

    Rude Pundit posted this about a week ago, comparing a (somewhat more) civilized country to ours:

    An American in U.K. National Health Service

    Attleecare is pretty darn popular, innit guvna? Good thing we made sure not to do anything like those filthy Royalist Loyalists…

    • Sheepshagger

      I especially like us nutters telling me how terrible national healthcare is. “You’ll have waiting lists!” So much worse than getting murdered and bankrupted by an insurance company. So much.

      • jesterpunk

        But it will kill Stephen Hawking if he was british.

        https://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/12/hawking_british_and_alive/

      • Shanzgood

        We already have waiting lists as well as GPs who don’t even take new patients.

        • HorseChestnut

          This. People die while waiting for treatment COMMONLY. Right now.

      • Three Finger Salute
      • Arolpin

        Waiting lists. You can tell that NOBODY who uses that argument has ever had to actually deal with insurance. I’ve got VERY good insurance (through the wife’s job in a NJ school district) and I’ve been lucky enough to have had very good insurance for most of the past 25 years. It doesn’t mean I don’t have to wait for a specialist, AFTER I’ve already gotten a referral from my PCP, to an in-network specialist, and the insurance has agreed, then you get to try and set an appointment, which is really just another word for a waiting list.
        When one son had a testicle that didn’t descend normally, we waited 2 months to get an appointment with a specialist, and another 6 weeks to get a surgery scheduled. When my wife’s blood test results continue to come back with very strange results (we have 15 years of similar results, normal red cell count, very high white cell count, something else elevated), it took 2 months to schedule an appointment with hematologist. When he suspected a form of Leukemia, we were expecting at least 3 months to see the specialist that my wife wanted to see (it’s a slow-moving and generally treatable form, and currently they see a handful of cancerous cells about every other bone-marrow sample, so the delay was reasonable), but luckily the hematologist had studied under the oncologist we wanted to see, and he was able to pull in a favor and get an appointment the following week.
        This is with free-market health care, with a very good and generous plan, with a major nationwide carrier with one of the largest physician networks in the US and anything other than a PCP visit generally requires several weeks of waiting to even get an appointment.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Oh….Stoney’ is threatening anyone who helps depose Trump….being all inflammatory!
    What a disgusting (in every way) douchebag.

    [POSTED BY: CHASE SANDERS SEPTEMBER 22, 2017
    Roger Stone to Congress: Vote Impeachment And Your Life is In Danger

    “You will have a spasm of violence in this country, an insurrection like you’ve never seen!” Stone warned. “Both sides are heavily armed. This is not 1974. The people will not stand for impeachment. A politician who votes for [impeachment] would be endangering their own life,” he continued.]

    http://ir.net/news/politics/127469/roger-stone-congress-vote-impeachment-life-danger/

    http://ir.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/4-38-373×210.png

    Oh, this could bring up some very serious questioning.

    • jesterpunk

      Didnt the Derp State murder Roger Stone dead yet?

      • therealpuredog

        They try, but the bullets just sort of slide right off him. It’s a grease-stealth thang.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Will he be getting a visit from the secret service now?

      • TJ Barke

        No, cuz he’s not threatening the president.

    • Jonny On Maui

      That sounds very treasony…

    • Bring is ass monkey. Your constant threats of 2nd amendment solutions have no power any longer.

    • Oh shut the fuck up you washed up Nixon has been.

      • A politician who votes for [impeachment] would be endangering their own life,” he continued.

        The FBI will very likely take this as a direct threat.
        Expect a walk back from him, soon

    • SayItWithWookies

      Wow — Mueller must be getting closer to rolling out some indictments than I’d thought.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      The closer Mueller gets, the crazier the rightwing nutbags get. Time to get popcorn – in Costco-scale packages.

      • therealpuredog

        “Give me two pallets of your finest popped corn, my good man. And a tub o’ Plugra.”

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • jesterpunk

    Has anyone seen WITP today? She was pretty pissed off last night and I haven’t seen anything from her today.

    • Panika MCD

      I haven’t, but she might still be at work.

    • Panika MCD

      how long did that jackass stick around for, anyhow?

      • h4rr4r

        What did I miss?

        • Panika MCD

          WT or Spags or someone impersonating WITP. impersonators just need to be flagged and blocked.

          • h4rr4r

            What the hell is wrong with kids these days?

          • Panika MCD

            WT doesn’t has eyebrows and steals beards and mustaches?

          • h4rr4r

            I am not a violent man, but I will protect my beard with lethal force. I have had it since I was 17, no one recognize me without it.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            When my Dad started chemo, I forbade him to lose his beard. I told him I had never seen what was under that beard, and intended to never see what was under that beard, so he better will it to stay on his face. He never lost any of his hair, luckily, and the last time I saw him, he still had the big, scruffy beard that was so much a part of him.

          • therealpuredog

            His mom is not paying sufficient attention to what is going on in her own basement. I say we send in the black heliocopters.

          • Shanzgood

            I don’t block because I want to see what he’s saying in case someone who got confused needs to be corrected later.

          • Panika MCD

            I did that for a time with him. wasn’t worth it.

          • Shanzgood

            Well, I was bored.

      • jesterpunk

        About 30 minutes after you left last night and he said he would be back for her today.

        • Jonny On Maui

          What happened?

          • Asshole came back and impersonated woman in. Claimed she poked his bear or whatever.
            Fucking loser

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            It wasn’t you know who, was it?

          • jesterpunk

            It was the same idiot who was impersonating people last time. WT.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            STILL??!!

          • jesterpunk

            Yep, he got banned again but is using vpn or something to get around the IP ban.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Wow. Just…wow…

          • He likes us! He really likes us!

          • Panika MCD

            I still maintain that he and Chris Cillizza are one and the same.

          • jesterpunk

            You might be right with that theory.

          • hendenburg2

            Wait – there’s been someone going around impersonating people here?

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Yes … Creates a Disqus account with the same alias and picture.

            Then talks shit about everybody and everything.

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            Seems that one ought to get a “that name is taken” notice when attempting it. Is Disqus really that stupid?

          • Shanzgood

            Jesus HMS Christ, doesn’t that fuckface have anything better to do?

          • Panika MCD

            clearly not.

          • jesterpunk

            Apparently not.

          • SisterArtemis

            We believe it to be the so-called Tracker of Wolves, particularly because of the conspiracy theories about our “clique” and our “stalking” of him.

          • therealpuredog

            But the question is: does “Law Man” = “Wolf Tracker” = “Turgid Love Muscle”?
            I know that to even care is to play right into his hands. Troll feeding, I is doing it rong.

          • SisterArtemis

            Not familiar with “law Man” but I don’t think our current annoyance is TLM – the style and apparent motivation are completely different.

          • Jonny On Maui

            Thanks. What an asshole.

          • TJ Barke

            Dude’s fucking unstable or something.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Yeah. There’s something very wrong.

          • h4rr4r

            Probably just an asshole.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            I don’t think so, in this case. I think there are much deeper issues with this one. This has been going on for a while now. No matter what Dok does, he finds a way to come back. He is the only person I have ever blocked on here, because his behavior made me deeply uncomfortable.

          • Shanzgood

            I blocked someone who kept posting that naked “portrait” of Trump.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            You might need those pics if you ever swallow anything poison and must immediately induce vomiting.

          • therealpuredog

            Me too. But, then again, he has been wont to steal my identity too, and then post really insulting shit to people as though he were me. Twatwaffel.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            I saw him threaten to tell Rebecca on you one day when you made a completely innocent comment. It was fucking ridiculous.

          • therealpuredog

            Can not our Esteemed Dok do something about that WATB?

          • h4rr4r

            He can only banhammer each time it appears. Disqus is a bit limiting in that regard.

          • Panika MCD

            which is why we need to flag and block with him.

          • Normally I do just that. Hell, I blocked him before he went total ape shit. First time ever on the intertubes.
            But this time he decided to be an odious twat waffle to someone I have come to admire and I admit my dander was up

          • TJ Barke

            I do whenever I see him.

          • She mentioned it bugged her and it was creepy. So he had to come back and do it again. That is the kind of person he is.

          • TJ Barke

            Dude needs a swift vote in the head.

          • jesterpunk

            Thats why I am wondering how she is doing today. I hope she is ok.

          • :hugs: you is good people, Jester. I think she was-ish last night. Mostly objected to it stealing her dog pic.

          • therealpuredog

            Trolls gonna troll.

    • SisterArtemis

      I believe she’s working. We’ll probably see her later, after Thor gets a walk and she has a chance to pour herself a nice glass of wine. Chardonnay, perhaps.
      *waves* Hi, @WomanInAMood:disqus !

      • WomanIsTotallyPissed

        Hi! Yes, I did in fact just get home, fed and walked Thor, etc. And how on earth did you make such a good guess about the wine? ;)

    • WomanIsTotallyPissed

      You’re very sweet. And I’ve simmered down.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • Graham is so proud of his bill he is more than willing to stick other names on it also, just in case that Heller guy changes his mind again

    • SayItWithWookies

      Maybe the other two co-sponsors are getting cold feet and Lindsey just wants to remind them that their names are on it.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Raan

      Doing something no one wants them to that ends with them flat on their asses?

      Sounds about right.

  • Nounverb911

    Does doonnie eat vegetables or just burnt steaks?
    https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/911326643775471617

    • jesterpunk

      OMG she is telling kids to eat healthy!!!!! IMPEACH NOW.

      • And she is touching not pale people.
        With the faces she’s been making at the Con lately, and now showing humanity, one wonders if the prenup terms are nearly up

        • jesterpunk

          Trump did say Melon wished she could be somewhere today. Maybe she is waiting for him to be more forgetful then sneak out the window?

    • Panika MCD

      I’m just glad that the garden is staying.

      • TJ Barke

        They probably told Donnie it had been taken out…

        • Panika MCD

          it’s not like he’s going to face stairs to find out!

    • Jamoche

      FLOTUS pivot!

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      I suspect Melania is hoping for a really good crop of zucchini and cucumbers. Nice big ones…

      • SisterArtemis

        I won’t begrudge her that, whether she eats them or uses them in more … creative ways. Also, perhaps she could use a couple of good-sized ones to bonk her husband on the head.
        https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20479846_10155555919249725_2967048322485125482_n.jpg?oh=8fb32e71bfd0399cf052c5ae7cc2a0fe&oe=5A4E67CA

        • Shanzgood

          How did he train that cat to retrieve those?!

          • SisterArtemis

            Years ago, I had the pleasure (?) of seeing a barn cat dragging a hare about half again her size across a bumpy, weed strewn field, probably a good 100 yards or more. She was was moving slow and steady, and must have been planning on having her and the kittens eating off that carcass for quite a while. It was very impressive.

            So, zucchini? no problem! Talented cats learn to roll them.

          • Shanzgood

            But the stacking is also impressive!

      • Three Finger Salute

        “Soon I go to snow country to steal seed from big Canadian wood.”

        • AmericanAssassinCaptainHowdy

          That sounds strangely arousing for some reason.

    • Moebym of the Returners

      That’s Michelle’s garden, and don’t you forget it!

      • sarafina

        I’m surprised they didn’t plow it up and pave over the site.

    • Wait. They kept Michelle’s garden?????

    • Raan

      “What’s that weird carrot?”
      “It’s an eggplant, Donald.”
      “Well scramble that son of a bitch up!”

    • SayItWithWookies

      That lower left photo may be the first time I’ve ever seen her looking genuinely happy.

  • Ryan Denniston

    Molotov! Blowjobs all around!

    • Panika MCD

      and then the fapping began.

      • Raan

        Began?

        • Panika MCD

          we had slain the fapper. but it came back with its SATAN WORDS!

  • If it’s the process McCain objects to, maybe he could have declared a firm “no” at the beginning of the process? But, no. That wouldn’t have put him in the “hero” spotlight again.

    • jesterpunk

      But then he wouldn’t get any congratulations. But yeah your right he votes to allow this to come up just so he can make a big deal later about voting against it.

      • Panika MCD

        he might have hoped that they would get the committee process. they can refer these things back to committee, but it has to come up for a vote for the motion to be made.

        • jesterpunk

          Good point, I thought the votes where to put it to a vote on the floor in the last one. But sending it to a committee to debate and amend sounds like a good idea.

          • Panika MCD

            there’s a reason there’s a normal process.

          • sarafina

            I know how McCain has bitched and moaned about many things, and voted for them anyway. I’ll wait October 1 to celebrate.

          • jesterpunk

            Yeah same here, they still have a week to screw things up.

          • THIS

    • Panika MCD

      without the committee process, he and others have no input. he wants that. I don’t know why you would declare yourself a “no” at the beginning of that process if you are asking for the ability to debate and amend a bill. that just doesn’t make sense.

      • That’s the point. It was clear from the beginning that they wouldn’t be doing all that. As soon as the leadership rejected that process, rejected “regular order” rejected broader input and rejected independent CBO analysis, he (and all the rest) should have said that’s it, then: “no” on anything you put before us in this way. Most of them, instead, are falling in line and are prepared to vote as told to by the leadership, with no care on what’s in the Bill.

        • Panika MCD

          a) they can’t reject an independent CBO analysis when they’re using the reconciliation process. that’s just not in the cards. it’s been well covered.

          b) he may have thought he had a seat at the table and it got yanked.

          getting mad about everything does not help anyone.

  • Nounverb911
    • erm/ Mike? You are not Indiana’s Gov anymore.
      You are the VP of the country
      What about the rest of the states?

      • Nounverb911

        “What! There are other states?”
        –Mother Pence’s boy Mike

    • jesterpunk

      Hey Mike you know you could have done that with the ACA too or even before the ACA but you did nothing. Now you want to talk about helping Indiana?

      • Indiana does not like him very much.
        Chances are, they will be against it just because he said something about it.

        • jesterpunk

          Yeah I know he was going to lose his election if he didnt lose. I just keep seeing republicans say if it wasn’t for the ACA they could have health care in their states. But they did nothing before the ACA and actively sabotaged any attempt to have health care in their state.

    • bubbuhh

      Bet Pence considers female genital mutilation a common sense reform

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        The one thing he’d want to mandate coverage for.

  • ltmcdies

    Good story from NASA to start the week end

    https://twitter.com/NASA/status/911364497696227329

  • Nounverb911

    Trumps intro music at the strange/trump rally is…..Rocket Man!
    https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/911355173850804224

    • Ryan Denniston

      Amazing. That follows “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.”

    • Maybe he realized it is a cool nickname and is going to try and say he meant he was the rocket man?

    • Raan

      And cue Elton John ripping his overly-ample ass apart in 3, 2…

      • Rude vile pigs! Pigs! Rude vile pigs!

    • Catstro

      Goddamn it, that’s the one Elton John song that I like, and now he’s going to ruin it for me. Adding this to the list of petty grievances (along with feeling even more ashamed of my tiny hands than I already was).

    • OrG

      Why don’t they play the shitty music of “artists” that support him?

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        It would be all Nugent, all the time.

        • OrG

          No meat loaf?

    • ltmcdies

      And of course he checked with Elton John before using Elton’s intellectual property….right Mr President …right????????

  • sosuume
  • Nounverb911

    Do fired HUD secretaries get unemployment insurance?
    https://twitter.com/AlexPappas/status/911328847328677888

  • bubbuhh

    Melania workin in teh fieldz jes like when she wuz a poor black sharecropper in NYC
    wif no health insurance.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b385224596987c458b6cc04d325a1ab150e759e1eaf61ebeba2e9fb6bb13b9b5.png

    • jowgajen

      Actually this is awesome and I appreciate her keeping the kitchen garden going and involving local kids.

      • mancityRed6

        no shit

        • jowgajen

          She almost seems happy there too.

          • mancityRed6

            it’s one of the places she knows the Cheeto Mussolini won’t go.
            like, down stairs.

      • Catstro

        This is the first time I’ve felt a positive emotion in relation to this presidency. I assumed they would plow it under, and I actually got a little dust in my eye when I saw this today.

      • Catstro

        Also too she wouldn’t be the first wife to throw herself into gardening to escape an asshole of a husband who sits in front of Fox News, bitching all day.

        • Panika MCD

          and she’s not a librarian.

        • Three Finger Salute

          It’d be nice if she threw herself into “gardening.”

          Purple haze > orange mushroom cloud

    • Panika MCD

      I still maintain that Melania has done little to deserve targeting.

      • (Except all that bit where she was wondering about where Obama was borned and the tone deaf we have to stop cyber bullying thing when married to a cyber bully and the part where she wore stilettos to a disaster area and they were so chic- but at least that last was likely an innocent mistake and it seems, unlike her husband, she can learn rapidly).

        • Panika MCD

          a) I have never seen her do birther things. but am open to correction.

          b) I think she really believes in stopping cyber bullying now. her husband didn’t have the tweeters when she married him. we don’t know what clauses are in that prenup. she may be trying to tell him something with this platform that he’s too tone deaf to hear.

          c) she wore the stilettos to the plane, she was in tennis shoes when she exited the plane.

          • She did it on the Tee Vee even. Stand by your man style
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSTx1ZODEcQ
            The other two, meh, I myself do not have a problem with em, but I heard those as reasons.

          • Panika MCD

            she’s still not a lawyer. I don’t think she really understood what was going on.

          • She was like 40 there.
            If she did not know what was going on, it was willful ignorance, and hardly an excuse.
            She did it because she was told to do it, for her comfort of life, in her arranged marriage. Pitiable, but not precisely forgivable. Not without at least some sort of “damn, that was a dumb of me”

        • Raan

          I still maintain that if she thought Donald would ever pay his alimony, she would take Barron and make an escape during the inky blackness of a new moon.

      • mancityRed6

        “there’s good people on both sides”

        • (knew I was forgetting something)

        • Panika MCD

          I don’t think she has much of a side beyond trying to ensure Baron doesn’t end up as screwed up as the other Trump children.

          • mancityRed6

            divorce is a bad thing, but he did leave them in NY for how long?
            when my ex didn’t approve of what I was doing, she kicked me out.

          • Panika MCD

            it is his third marriage and English is not her first language–not to mention that she’s a model not a lawyer.

          • mancityRed6

            I will give you that

          • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

            She has lied about a lot of things. For starters, her university degree, her illegal status when she came to the states, she is on tape saying she almost completely alone wrote the speech which plagiarized Michelle. I tried to have sympathy for her, but she is complicit.

          • Panika MCD

            how many of those things do you think could have been done under some sort of threat?

          • Threat? Of? Less money if she divorces him before he is done with her?

          • Panika MCD

            less money if she divorces him? you think she or Barron will get any money if she divorces him? hell, do you think she’ll even be allowed to stay in the country?

          • Well, she is a citizen now so…..
            But they will get some money, because child support. But probably Marla money and not Ivana money.

          • Panika MCD

            we’ll see what happens with immigration.

          • mancityRed6

            I honestly don’t think she knew about the degree thing.
            the illegal status when she took the pictures, I don’t think she though it would ever become a thing.

          • Panika MCD

            the status thing is also not uncommon in the modeling industry.

          • Her complicity, however, is not ideological but rather monetary. I am very sure there is a no showing up the Don in her pre nup

          • Catstro

            I’m not sure that it’s all monetary. Some monetary. Maybe most. But she seems really protective of Barron, and I think she’s worried about Trump using that against her in any sort of divorce, because of course he would.

          • This is very true

      • bubbuhh

        Only cuz she doesn’t have the smartz to do anythin more than plagiarize

        • Panika MCD

          or because there are worse things in the world and more deserving targets.

      • OrG

        Nope, actions have consequences.

        • Panika MCD

          actions like being an impressionable young woman from a poor country that was targeted by a bully she didn’t know was a bully?

          • mancityRed6

            world traveled model?
            no, she’s not from the sticks anymore.
            sorry, I just can’t let her get away from any of this. not after they went after Hillary for caring in the ’90s and didn’t do a thing about Laura in the ’00s.

          • Panika MCD

            I don’t want anyone going after Hillary or Laura either. Laura has done great things for children’s literacy (not that No Child Left Behind helped) and she’s still at it. she also started the Texas Book Festival which is fucking awesome.

          • I always rather liked Laura fine

          • mancityRed6

            I really do appreciate your standing with this, I do.
            and I’m not trying to be an ass about it.
            but how can she give a speech about bullying and not see what her husband has done?
            maybe she stopped it. maybe it’s a reason he hasn’t done his impersonation since.
            and I don’t go after her on a regular, but, aww, fuck it.
            she is off limits from here on
            and I do feel sorry for her, that handshake video and “she wanted to be here” does make me feel sorry for her. but only ’cause dementia runs in my family and I’ve seen it before.

          • Panika MCD

            maybe she does see what her husband has done and is using the same avenue as his campaign staff did: trying to talk to him through the press.
            I’d rather have her saying something about it than not.
            if she does something truly bad, I’m with you. I just haven’t seen anything that is truly objectionable and I think getting pissed about her maintaining the garden and using it for its intended purpose doesn’t help anyone.

          • Who was pissed? Seemed to me most people were simply pointing out “That is Michelle’s garden! Yay it is still there!”

          • Panika MCD

            I didn’t think the non-comment was intended to be celebratory.

          • mancityRed6

            it came off as derogatory, which, pursuant to my declaration, I have no words about.
            but I do like the pictures ’cause it will play very well on the brainfart and make RWNJ’s heads explode.

          • Panika MCD

            splody heads gonna splode. nothing to be done about it other then stay out of the radius or wear protective gear.

          • mancityRed6

            you make me be better, thanks for that.

          • Panika MCD

            I do what I can.

          • mancityRed6

            the play thing for the kids that got given away, I’ll accept that as part of her negotiations.
            and I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, I do see that we should focus our ire where it belongs.

          • I absolutely pity her. Even if she is where she is at because of her own greed to live the good life.

      • Mr. Blobfish

        She’s a birther.

    • She is plagiarizing Michelle’s first lady platform now????
      (all snark aside, I am going to enjoy the fuck outta trollin cons with how Michelle is out picking Michelle’s veggies in Michelle’s garden. So…thanks, Melania!).

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Is she allergic to sunlight?

      AKA, who works with children while wearing shades which = no eye contact which = zero intimacy?

      Melons, honey, just wearing a plaid shirt does not in and of itself make you a human being.

      • Catstro

        Gah I hate to defend her but maybe she does have sensitive eyes. I have zero nice pictures of my husband in the out-of-doors because he never removes his sunglasses, because he finds it physically painful.
        (I’m pretty sure he’s not a vampire, but I think he would spontaneously combust on the beach if he weren’t covered head to toe)

        • Not to mention sun is bad on the eyes. Everyone should wear shades.

          • Catstro

            As a blue-eyed person its even more important, and I know this and I still don’t wear them enough, even though my eyes are probably a bit lighter than my husband’s, and even after I sunburned my eyeballs (the concrete on the Mall in June did it). My daughter has very bright blue eyes, and we do our best to keep shades on her, but little kids man, it’s a struggle.

          • I got polarized swim goggles for the yutes. They thought they were cool.
            Stayed on pretty good XD

      • Mr. Blobfish

        A $2,000 plaid shirt.

    • Nounverb911
    • CountryClubJihadi

      She looks like a blind lumberjack bit this also reminds me of the Sidney Poitier film “A Patch of Blue”.

    • Left Coast Tom

      I thought “MAGA” meant not having a First Lady talking about eating vegetables, unless the ketchup L’il Donnie pours on his burnt steaks counts as a vegetable.

  • Ezio

    Remember James Damore? The Google manifesto guy? Turns out he is an even bigger POS than we first thought. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a878a159fa8589cd551f9b38bf5ae93a1f2281007c171abff97803adec1958b4.jpg

    • TJ Barke

      We had a whole article about him this week.

      • Ezio

        Ah sorry. I must’ve missed it. I’m not here when I have classes now.

    • Three Finger Salute

      No, other and you’re A Asshole

    • OrG

      I don’t see ) No,fuck you on there.

    • Sheepshagger

      “And hey the SS weren’t good people, but the uniforms were to die for!”

      • h4rr4r

        They were designed by Hugo Boss.

    • Raan

      No, the names aren’t really that cool.

      They’re what rednecks butthurt about not being able to chain up black people anymore think is cool.

      • h4rr4r

        Also all the weird spelling everything with a k.

  • CO
    • Nounverb911

      But none of them are qualified for anything other than Fox News interns….

      • CO

        There was the Blaze but they are doing layoffs.

        • h4rr4r

          A website called the Blaze that opposed legalization confused the shit out of me.

          • Three Finger Salute

            That’s because it’s Glennbeckibeckibeckibeckistan.

    • Joe Beese
  • DON’T POKE THE BEAR!

    I see the little clique of assholes have got together for their usual circle jerk and apparently did not learn their lesson yet. Yo know who you are!

    So let me make this perfectly clear. Follow the rules, be nice and don’t poke the bear and you will have a good time here.

    Unlike you assholes I have better things to do on my Friday nights than hang out with losers jerking each other off for some upfists.

    Oh and have a good night!

    Don’t bother responding as this account will self destruct in 5..4..3..2..1

    https://i.imgflip.com/133w6d.jpg

    • You do not make the rules.

      You are not a bear, you are what a bear shits out

      • h4rr4r

        He does not have time for us, so he came here to tell us that.

        • HE IS VERY BUSY LIFE OK??????

          • Bub, the cynical zombie

            Immediately block whenever he reappears. Replying is pointless, and only encourages him.

          • Agreed. But I felt the need to point out that he does not make the rules.
            I am contrary, contrarily.

          • Bub, the cynical zombie

            Understandable. The urge to reply is overwhelming sometimes.

          • Just that one time.
            Ok, two times…..*shifty eyes*

      • RugzYaBurnt

        Camper’s garbage? Sounds about right.

    • Still here? Gonna flounce some more?
      I got up to 10 flounces tonight, let us break that record!

    • Shucky Ducky

      POKE POKE POKE POKE POKEPOKEPOKEPOKEPOKE POKE.

    • DainBramage
    • jesterpunk
      • H0mer0

        my neighbor’s cat chased a fox away just as I was worrying that the fox might get her.

        • jesterpunk

          I used to have a Maine Coon who thought big dogs where her play toys and would beat up anyone that came anywhere near her space. Its funny seeing a tiny cat beat up a big rottweiler and watching the dog run away. Once they left her area she would lay back down and go back to sleep.

    • Shanzgood

      These can be reported directly to Disqus by clicking on the profile. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c6a08b423b72f32b6576b088dde24c3b939a71ebdb3f263a88e527a7ff2e932d.png

      • ok but….do we get to do the circle jerk thing?

        • Shanzgood

          Only if someone brings a cookie.

          • fuckin hell. Always comes back to baking, my nemsis

          • Shanzgood

            I wouldn’t put any effort into baking a circle-jerk cookie…

    • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

      So you have read my reports. Who is drunk and getting laid tonight: not you!

    • Ricky Gay

      Do not attempt to jerk off the bear! The bear has no penis!

      • Shanzgood

        Nah, it’s busy jerking ITSELF off.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        I’ve actually have touched a grizzly in the wild. This bear is milquetoast!

        • Ricky Gay

          This bear milks on its toast? GROSS! Bad 🐻!

          • Shanzgood

            That’s what the cookie is for.

    • Kiri the Unicorn
    • Dept. of Space Tacos

      for someone complaining about cliques, I LOVE how he’s dictating the rules for a community of people that 1) didn’t like him and 2) chased his dumbass off.

      OBEY ME! OBEY ME!

  • Moebym of the Returners

    “Weird citrus golem” gave me a chuckle.

    There must be enough nicknames for Trump by now to fill a decently-sized book.

    https://twitter.com/AJemaineClement/status/910757562970021888

  • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

    So to keep everyone up to date. Hippie chick left and now a blonde is creeper staring at me. I am reciprocating. “I am a creeper. Stay away…”

    Stay creepy my friends.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Aggressive eye contact is my go-to anti-creep weapon.

      • h4rr4r

        I thought you just liked me.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        She came over to tell me she needs a break from her family.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Did she give you five cents?

  • Sheepshagger

    I just picked up a National Geographic from 1996. It was like a dispatch from an alternative universe. Everything so positive and forward looking. Al Gore and the Russians working together to save the arctic. Peace. I remember that time, like we were perched on the cusp of a golden age. And then…

    • Three Finger Salute

      …the murders began.

      (The world really did end in Y2K.)

      • Ωbjectifier

        Late summer of ’01 by my reckoning.

    • I never figured the Russians were really serious about that. Their entire economy rests on oil.
      And they’ve always wanted an ice free port……

      • Three Finger Salute

        Everyone’s economy rests on oil. It’s only the civilized countries who are trying to wean off it and transition to renewables. Volkswagen notwithstanding, Germany is one of them. So is France, what with Macron’s “Make the Planet Great Again” Trump-troll website and all. Canada is in an unfortunate predicament, because of the rabid hatred by Alberta about anything with the name “Trudeau” attached to it (especially when it comes to energy policy) — and the fact that they share a border with a de facto Russian oblast that has Alaska attached to it and an Exxon CEO as secretary of state. That doesn’t mean he’s not trying. It just means the Rooskies and the Murkastanians are going to make it that much more of a challenge. Notice that Vlad Poutine’s pet wasn’t invited to the climate change conference in Montreal. That’s a bigly start.

  • Ezio
    • Raan

      This and talking to cool English people are the only reasons I stay on Facebook.

    • Chyron HR

      It’s like the synthesis of a meme and a New Yorker cartoon.

  • Nounverb911
    • Joe Beese

      I died. Now I’m dead.

      • TJ Barke

        Lucky fucker…

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      Nothing like growing your own ingredients for vindaloo…..

  • CO

    Daddy is now scolding his children
    https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/911360077038223361

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    Those Who Don’t Spend All Their Money On Jim Bakker’s Food Buckets Will Answer To God

    …And the Coca-Cola Company.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Grenade.png

    While hawking his survival food buckets on his television program today, prepper pastor Jim Bakker encouraged the wealthy to buy a million dollars worth of his products because their money will soon be worthless when the End Times begin and the financial system collapses.

    At this point, I am legally required to post a photo of Jimmy Jailbird’s perp walk.

    (No, not really.)

    http://media.thecelebrityauction.co/picture/c/17/CwMdBE5KXRIWEBcRB00ZEBAVDB4KCwYFFloAGARbBAoeHBUMHhwrBQRGRVpXR0VWVUVTWlJDXENNU0dLVVBTSh0OEEYcABECOggC/FQBbChoIExFLGAMCPBUAGkwTDAYdExMHDBUXFlsCBR0dFwkXLFNQR0oWAhwCEQZIABYJBhMWEU0dGRM=.jpg

    Say, if all that money will soon be worthless, why does Jim Bakker want it?

    Guest John Shorey told viewers to stock up on Bakker’s food buckets and not to worry about running out because God will miraculously refill them as needed. “When you empty a bucket of food,” Shorey said, “trust God to refill it.”

    The spontaneous creation of matter only works if you pay full price, so let’s not have any smartasses suggesting that Bakker send some of his magic buckets to Puerto Rico, or anything silly like that.

    “The Bible says that our riches will be a witness against us,” Shorey said. “When the time comes that you’ve left money in the bank that could have been used to help people, to help feed people and all you did is you just kept all your riches for yourself, it will be a witness against you.”

    Okay, there’s my answer: Jim Bakker wants you to give him all your soon-to-be-worthless money so it won’t count against you when it’s time to enter heaven. Whatta guy!

    https://youtu.be/I-BYzaDwNoE

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/those-who-dont-spend-all-their-money-on-jim-bakkers-food-buckets-will-answer-to-god/

    • Three Finger Salute

      Product placement in film. Precious… bodily… profits.

      • gallbladder

        Please pass the rain water and grain alcohol.

    • Raan
    • Suttree

      That sounds like a swell deal pal. Can i get a five gallon bucket of vodke for $20?

    • jesterpunk

      He should send all the money to me since the world is supposed to end tomorrow and all the good people will be raptured. I will take it off of his hands for him.

      • h4rr4r

        So the low low price of $500 each I will take care of their pets.

        • jesterpunk

          You should also watch their mansion too, going to need some place for those pets.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        Minus my substantial finder’s fee, of course.

        • jesterpunk

          Fine I will share with everyone left.

    • OrG

      I, too, would unburden anybody that wants to get right with god.

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        That’s real Christian of you, mister!

    • gallbladder

      I miss Kubrick.

  • Suttree

    Sorry guys and gals. I have to keep facebook because I talk to my far away honey on it and send her pictures like this. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7482885e568379e81f3b772a2937081ffe6977ae2aec031eaf1127fc07e46a63.jpg

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
    • JustDon’tSayPeter

      OK, that’s funny, right there. I don’t care who ya are.

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    Tomorrow ends my tenure as a President and Board Member of my HOA. I am going to celebrate with good wine, cheese, shrimp and other elegant condiments tonight. My advise is: NEVER GET ON THE BOARD OF AN HOA!!!!!

    • Raan

      Let me guess: a bunch of self-important pricks who let a microscopic bit of power go to their heads.

      • Jeffocaster in the West

        Oh, no. Not that at all. Fairly reasonable people on the board. It is the people who aren’t on the board who expect us as volunteers to keep things perfect and fix legal problems instantly.

        • Raan

          Ah. So, the other way around.

          • Makes sense. Those who would go into a probably unpaid civil service act, if not power hungry, are the kind who care. So it is natural they get the shit

    • Better. Never buy into an HOA XD

      • Jeffocaster in the West

        Well, not much of one really. 8000 acres. 210 lots. 14 houses built. $200 annual dues to keep up 14 miles of unpaved roads. That’s it! Minor covenants, and even then people can seem to follow them.

        • That sounds like one I could actually deal with.
          Whilst house hunting, we have 3 in our lil county. And they are the ones with the tons of rules and monthly fees and such whats.
          So it cuts off about half the county for me to even look at which is sad cause most of the houses for sale are there.

          • Rags

            That’s why most of the houses are for sale there?

    • Panika MCD

      I envy you not.

    • Begin Anew Day

      No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.

      –attributed to every wise person ever

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Hey, South West Connecticut wonkers. I’m making my debut with a Sex Pistols tribute band tomorrow night in Stamford at the Seaside Tavern.

    • jesterpunk

      Which one will you be?

      • (((Aron)))

        The sex pistol.

        • jesterpunk

          So the drunk one. Got it.

          • (((Aron)))

            Tee-hee!

      • Mr. Blobfish

        I’m Steve Jones. With less hair.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Just don’t be Method Actor Sid Vicious.

    • Godammit Blobfish you are too far away.

      But then again, so were the Sex Pistols.

    • Kiri the Unicorn
    • (((Aron)))

      A Sex Pistols tribute band composed entirely of blobfish?

      YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    • (((Aron)))

      Nevermind the Blobfish, Meet the Sex Pistols!

    • Begin Anew Day

      Break A Leg!

      Wait. Is that appropriate for a Sex Pistols tribute band?

      How about FUCK THE QUEEN!???

      But people may think I am dissing Freddie Mercury.

      Fuck it! Just get out there and have a good time!

  • spangled

    who knew collins was so shady? bless Lepage’s clogged little heart. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8cfdc4c19e50119ad46316b16c2c5721f15f4ab20ff35a61452cb05f9480d766.jpg

  • Anna Rompage
  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    hola!
    Home from not-a-job. Nothing interesting happened. I’m kicking myself cause my issue is SUPER complicated and i spent an obscene amount of time researching the wrong part of it.

    But the lower level attorney I’m working with is super cool. We were talking about 4:50 or so and I told her I had my test tomorrow, and she was like, “go home, study, and don’t think about this for the rest of the weekend.”

    Now, off to study for my test!

    • jesterpunk

      Good luck on the test.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        thanks, how have things been around here?

        Things were awfully trollish when I left for not-work.

        • jesterpunk

          Not bad, only 1 idiot who came to tell us to follow his rules and how important he is. I also haven’t checked the Hillary thread recently, staying out of there.

          • h4rr4r

            Dollars to donuts he is reading this, so probably best to not give him the satisfaction of being spoken about.

          • Who?

          • h4rr4r

            The wolf dumbass. He was in here impersonating people apparently.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Good luck!

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        oh I’ll be lurking – just more focused on exam vs. wonkette (for once).

        • Don’t forget to take a break for 10 minutes after every 40 minutes or so of study.
          OSHA rules.

    • mancityRed6

      yes, study.
      before I got my CDL, I spent a good month or so coming in 2 hours early to drive the truck and trailer I’d be taking for the test.
      then I spent a large portion of a weekend studying the drivers handbook.
      I passed.
      if you study, so can you.
      also, remember, if you eat something good after a few hours of studying, you’re more likely to remember things.

    • (((Aron)))

      WONKET IZ MOAR IMPORTENT THEN TAST!!!

  • Nounverb911
    • (((Aron)))

      I love that account!

  • Ladies and gentlemen i am at the bar where i will remain for the near term.

    On monday, i will start reflogging over priced ACA plans (due to republican fuckery), doing ACA outreach and calling the senate.

    Have a great night all.

    • yyyaz

      u2, fu.

  • jesterpunk
    • Mr. Blobfish

      Years ago, I was pulling into my then favorite guitar shop as a bus was pulling out. I just missed REM stocking up on gear.

      • jesterpunk

        Damn, hope they left some good stuff for everyone else.

  • amrak63

    I assume this is the open thread, so Happy Autumn!

    (Even though the autumnal temps won’t arrive here in the Central Arkanshire until the middle of next week, despite an unusually mild summer.)

    Ushio naps on mommy Nagisa’s lap.

    https://i.imgur.com/sMzBpRt.jpg

    • At work today, one of the youngs was all…what is Equinox?
      So I told him all about the Equinox and the Solstice, and when each were, and what each meaned.
      I am VERY sure at 28 you should know that.

      • Shanzgood

        Just wait until they find out about Stonehenge.

        • They are so young, Shanz.
          My site leader spends hours on snap chat putting funny hats on herself.
          And sending the results to other people.
          Not all at once, in between things.

          • Shanzgood

            Now I’m going to go ask my kids if they know.

            Also, for a funny: when I was at my lesbian hairdresser’s last week with my daughter and my other (new) daughter, my hairdresser referred to it as SnatchChat.

          • BWAHAHAHAHAHA
            ok, bad joke time
            What is the difference between a lesbian and a wheat thin?
            One is a snack cracker, the other is a crack snacker.
            Thank you, thank you, don’t forget to tip your waiter

        • amrak63
      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        ugh, the other day somebody in the office asked if Hawaii was a state. After the appropriate response from whomever she was talking too, she clarified by saying, “I mean it’s not a territory, right?”

        Ugh.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      My favorite time of year. We’ve already had various warblers passing thru the back yard. Fall migration of birds and fish get me all tingly in my no no area.

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    In celebration of my 25K upfist, I just donated moneyz to the Wonk brain trust.

    • JoeChristmas

      And where are those Soros matching dollars??!?

      • Someone needs to do an itemized bill and send it to ol’ George, detailing all the money we are told he owes us.
        I bet he’d get a kick outta it

  • JoeChristmas

    Funny how those vermin never mention the tax cut or depriving 100 million + americans of adequate healthcare.

    Freedom! Access!!1 Choice!!11!!!

    • Three Finger Salute

      Didn’t you hear? There’s now an additional requirement for the citizenship test. Must have a net worth of at least nine figures to qualify for the designation of “American.” So, since no billionaires were harmed in the making of this bill, it didn’t have any effect on Real Americans™!

  • Rick Hill

    Shorter Graham: “Thank you for helping kill this piece of shit and making me look like a gop hero because I tried to kill Obamacare.”

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Yeah. The more I think of this, the more it seems staged. Maybe keep their voters and their donors.

      • ltmcdies

        Well now they can go back to the Kochs, shrug and say “Hey… we tried”

      • JustDon’tSayPeter

        And shut Donnie Two-Scoops the fuck up.
        Pretty fucking dangerous puppet show, though.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        I’ll take it, though.

      • Just like Milo tried to do!

  • Dept. of Space Tacos

    wow, checking out the hillary thread proves nothing has changed.

    Yikes.

    • Rick Hill

      In fact, the worse trump does, the more rabid the Hillary attacks will become.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        And the closer it gets to proving that the election was illegitimate, the more feverish and screechy the troll attacks become.

    • Nothing brings it like a pic or headline that mentions, or shows, Hillary.
      Weird that.

    • jesterpunk
      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        scroll down a bit – watch for when Robyn enters the comments.

        • jesterpunk

          I saw that earlier and thats when I left the thread.

    • Catstro

      Yeah, I checked that out for a second earlier today and decided that the half-glass of wine I was having with lunch wasn’t nearly enough booze to wade into the non-comments

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        IKR?
        I used to read every story and most of the comments.

        Now I got too much to get done between school and internship.

        It’s probably a good thing.

    • Panika MCD

      I didn’t even bother…now I’m curious.

      • Dept. of Space Tacos

        borrow jesterpunk’s enviro-suit.

        • Panika MCD

          didn’t we have a bury the hatchet thread last fall?

          • Dept. of Space Tacos

            yup – didn’t turn out real well, did it?

          • Panika MCD

            I thought most people were like, “I’m good.”

          • Most.

      • TBH, I got what Robyn was trying to say and thought it was a heart felt and sincere effort. And she writes so good she is always worth it.

    • Amelia Resists and Persists

      I purposely haven’t looked at that article at all. I read the headline, said “yep” to myself, and kept moving because I don’t have the wherewithal to deal with the stupid fights anymore. Blah.

  • bubbuhh
    • msanthropesmr

      There’s hamburger all over the highway in mystic connecticut

      • altleftjohn

        They never come up into the hills.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          you wouldn’t happen to have a couple of groat clusters …

          • altleftjohn

            You won’t want to eat after after this blast from the past.

    • Parakeetist

      Nooooooo

    • Mr. Blobfish

      There is no God.

      • Maybe he or she just prefers potato vodka? (or, rye, as the case may be)

    • Raan

      Oh no! How will the Russians pay off American politicians now?

  • Paperless Tiger

    Those kids will never learn to stay off his lawn.

  • I’m not throwing a parade for Walnuts holding a lit match over gasoline and then blowing it out. Can you get brain cancer from showboating?

    • JustDon’tSayPeter

      well, the sample size is just one so far, but ..maybe?

  • Rick Hill

    You want calm? You want relaxing?!!!?!!1!?!!?!1 You….want….MELLOW!!!!!!!!!!!11!?!!!!?!!!1

    Well.

    Ok, then. Here. Have at it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgOqRwjaKxg

    • Rick Hill

      Sort of related. Merl played in a little bar in Cinci back in the 90s. Before sets I went to take a whiz but stopped short as I saw Mr Sanders going into the john right in front of me. It was one of those joints with a kind of communal trough for a urinal and I didn’t want my one brush with greatness to be standing next to him taking a leak.
      That is all.

  • I was pleasant and social with real people. My building had a BBQ tonight. Met some nice people, had good food. But now i’m home with my interwebs friends

    • bubbuhh
    • Three Finger Salute

      I knew you guys were polite :)

    • Rick Hill

      Yes…back to us….
      …..
      ………
      We’re your friends, Pick….
      …your only real friends…..
      ……come to us……..
      ……come……….
      be one of us……..
      ……forever……..

      • Doug Langley

        Come . . . join us . . . it is pleasant . . .

        • Lord Jim

          They ALL float down here!

    • TundraGrifter

      Instead of those imaginary “friends” at work you have our real computer/Internet buddies.

  • ltmcdies

    God if there was a nation who deserved a do over election, it’s you guys
    https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/911373538296320005

    • Three Finger Salute

      Hillary should change her last name to Mulligan.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Constitutional crisis yo!

  • Panika MCD

    I can work with this. even if Harvey is the top issue, the proposed cutting of CDBG-DR grants will be part of that. and rebuilding will be part of the conversation surrounding “sanctuary cities” bans and DACA as well as just important across the board in TX politics given our large immigrant populations–yeah, the legal ones and the illegal ones. they’re part of our communities and I don’t see supporting our economy which relies on the diversification efforts since the 1980s to bolster it–that includes immigrants.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/09/22/analysis-x-factor-2018s-texas-elections-might-be-harvey-not-donald/

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Our community has a non-partisan committee that makes the recommendations for the recipients of our CDBG. When I started, it was $1.3mil. Now it’s barely $400K. Yeah winning!

      • Panika MCD

        really? we just found out that if you apply for extra funding from HUD and they don’t answer within a given time that you get the money. state got an additional $47 million.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          I’m down at the local level … so a lot of the grant is spent on the housing authority buildings. Not much left over for all the other agencies’ service projects.

  • Picabo

    First edition of National Geographic Magazine was published on this date in 1888.
    “The June 1985 cover portrait of the presumed to be 12-year-old Afghan girl Sharbat Gula, shot by photographer Steve McCurry, became one of the magazine’s most recognizable images. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25c810a4893c9afb698f5863450e268d3a6b229b0adfe7c87ea78724f4e91aaa.jpg