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Good Morning Wonketariat! We have all the newses for you, and here’s some of the things we may be talking about today.

Back in April, Russia tried to reset its neutered relationship with the US ; all Trump had to do was ignore all of the Russian fuckery in our election, its invasion into Ukraine, and its support of the Assad regime in Syria.

During the primaries, Trump’s Moscow tower deal was coincidentally being considered by the Russian government while Trump was casually jerking off Putin all over Morning Joe. [Morning Maddow]

Sen. Bernie Sanders “Medicare for all” plan continues to suck in progressives, 2020 contenders, and potentially even Sen. Joe Manchin. WHUT.

The NRA is whispering in the ears of the GOP with new legislation that would relax regulations on gun silencers. How else are you supposed to hunt wolves from a helicopter with an assault rifle?

Chains to shackle Silicon Valley are being dragged across Capitol Hill as Democrats talk about anti-trust regulations, and Republicans bemoan “fake news” that accuses them of screwing the poor and minorities.

Tea Party wackos led by Congressmen David Brat and Mark Meadows continue to throw tantrums and scream about LIBERALS, like Steve Mnuchin and Gary Cohn spearheading efforts at poor fucking tax reform.

The State Department continues to hemorrhage employees, and now State’s anti-propaganda center is totally empty and all the Russia analysts area gone.

Democratic Sen. Patty Murray is cutting Princess Ivanka off and introducing a child care bill that would mandate more federal funding for child care so poor and middle-class people don’t go broke.

A bipartisan group of House Reps. pushed through an amendment that would restore the 2015 restrictions on civil asset forfeiture that Jeff Sessions tried to kill. AND IT PASSED.

Mike Flynn was pushing for a “Marshall Plan” to control nuclear power in the Middle East, and, in typical Mike Flynn fashion, he accidentally forgot to tell anyone he was taking Ameros from the very companies vying to control said nuclear power plants in Not America.

A chartered rescue ship by Marriott stranded dozens of people, including children and the elderly, on the island of St. Thomas after Hurricane Harvey barreled through simply because they weren’t guests of the hotel — despite having more than enough space to accommodate them.  If you’re about to rage, here’s emergency kittens.

The Office of Inspector General is investigating the Interior Department after allegations of retaliation and favoritism stemming from the reassignment of a fuckton of Senior Executive Service members by Interior Secretary (and low-rent Lex Luthor) Ryan Zinke.

After an Indian national was gunned down in an ALLEGED hate crime in Kansas, his wife faced deportation, however she’s been granted a work visa from Republican Rep. Kevin Yoder. File this one so you can shove it in the face of jerks who bitch about immigration.

Turkey just signed a deal to buy Russian surface-to-air missiles, a big slap in the face to NATO. I hope they read the fine print.

Here is a stupid shiny object story being pushed by Trump’s White House about people who don’t like Omarosa. It’s a dumb distraction from substantive policy issues; you don’t need to read it, but consider yourself informed.

Jamie Dimon was doing some talky time with money nerds on teevee and started bitching about Bitcoin, the internet’s magic funny money, as its roller coaster ride to the moon is now beginning to affect global markets and big banks.

NICE TIME! Mother nature isn’t nearly as badass as Sister Margaret Ann, a Florida nun who didn’t have time to wait for rescue crews to start clearing debris, so she grabbed a chainsaw and her habit and got to work. Groovy!

We’re waiting for the weekend to read Katy Tur’s new book where she talks about Sean Spicer’s stupidity and that time that Trump tried to damage her credibility as a journalist by attempting kiss her on set like some Eurotrash sleazeball. (Oh wait we covered that.) We heart you, Katy Tur!

And here’s your morning Nice Time! SNOW LEOPARD CUBS!

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    • Msgr_MΩment

      How high up does this go? #cruzjackinggate #neverforget

      • From Russia with Love

        #howthefuckcanweforget

  • memzilla Ω
  • Nounverb911
    • Gayer Than Thou

      Ad astra.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Chill, Bamz. It’s your successor that she would have kicked in the balls. Metaphorically.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Tiny in stature but so mighty in spirit. RIP Ms. Windsor. Our debt to you is very great.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      ZOMG, he’s got his butt on the Resolute Desk! Thank Crom he’s not also wearing a tan suit, or the interwebs would explode!

  • Msgr_MΩment

    WHAT OF TED CRUZ’S P0RNING HABITS? How dare you get us hooked and then leave us, cold turkey like this?!1

    • dslindc

      Porno Ted said it was a “staffing issue”. I’m not inclined to believe Porno Ted though because Porno Ted is a teatarded Republican.

      • vivian

        Yeah, it was his staff alright… *snork*

        • renegade500

          You said “staff.” hehe

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            You’re so juvenile. I love it!

          • renegade500

            I’m almost embarrassed. Almost.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        “Staffing issue”? That’s what SHE said.

  • Nounverb911

    “Hopefully the National Guard will have Mar-a-Lago and my golf courses cleaned up by time I get there.”
    –DJT

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/907930425657626624

    • Mr. Blobfish

      And others?

      • From Russia with Love

        Ruskies.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Nothing says “personal responsibility” like federal legislation to protect gun fetishists from hearing damage during their shooting sprees.

  • Marion in Savannah

    And in other news the NYT has published the weirdest book review I’ve ever read of Clinton’s book. It barely mentions her at all:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/books/review/jon-meacham-hillary-clinton-what-happened-presidential-election.html

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Wasn’t that the worst? The very definition of when is a book review not a book review?

  • Nounverb911

    How many did President two scoops eat?
    https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/907946489825120256

  • Jeffery Campbell

    Emergency kittehs!!! Just going to set that up on endless loop on my big ass monitor and see if I can taper off on the calmatives.

  • From Russia with Love

    “The NRA is whispering in the ears of the GOP with new legislation that would relax regulations on gun silencers.”

    Fuckin A! Randomly shooting at peaceful demonstrators has nearly ruined my hearing.

    • BigCSouthside

      What’s crazy is, they are pretty fuckin easy to get already. I can go to the range and buy a 9mm pistol with an integral suppressor. Cuz #freedumb

      • From Russia with Love

        Yeah, the only thing that is still regulated to any real degree is fully automatic weapons.

  • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

    I love how Bernie decided to introduce his big plan on the same day as Hillary’s book release. Does the guy just hate her getting any attention or what?

  • renegade500

    I cannot believe you posted that video of those ridiculous snow leopard cubs! I have now officially died ded before I even finished my first cup of coffee.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    Just because you’re in an historic storm is no reason not to quickly sign up for Marriott RewardsPlus. It’s easy and quick, and then you’re entitled to free rescues. Honestly, people make the dumbest travel mistakes!

    • From Russia with Love

      Do they have a business class so we don’t have to rub elbow with THOSE people?

      • Courser_Resistance

        I honestly think this was what most of the screeching from the USVI was about. The rich, white people are used to all the brown service people sticking to their part of the island. Now all the servile, quaint villagers are suddenly having to find shit to survive and it’s OMG! They’re going to kill us all!!!

        • From Russia with Love

          Pretty much.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      “Sorry, pal, you’re 120 points shy of a free rescue.”

      • ariel_gee_398

        Bet you really regret that upgrade to a suite during your last stay.

      • From Russia with Love

        You’ll need to travel to Nassau and back. Better hurry.

  • From Russia with Love

    “Turkey just signed a deal to buy Russian surface-to-air missiles, a big slap in the face to NATO.”

    Uncle Vladimir will not be pleased the next time you Turkish fucks knocks down one of his jets.

  • Harvey, Irma, they all look alike when your hunkered down and covered in debris.

    Irma devastated The Virgin Islands.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Thank you for not using the word “ravaged”.

    • ImGoingBacon

      True story. A colleague of mine from a different Agency emailed me, and asked for my help in finding someone who could rescue a couple who were trapped in their home on USVI, due to a mud slide. I forwarded the email to my boss, who immediately forwarded it to his contact at Virginia Task Force 1 https://www.vatf1.org They took it for action. However, in the mean time, the FBI SWAT team rescued them. There are organizations you would never expect to provide support in a disaster. But they are there, and doing great work without the fanfare.
      Thank you FBI and Virginia Task Force 1!

  • Wolf Tracker

    Sanders Medicare for all bill to be introduced today.

    Cosponsors:

    Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)
    Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
    Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ)
    Senator Al Franken (D-MN)
    Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
    Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA)
    Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM)
    Senator Mazie Hirono (D-HI)
    Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
    Senator Ed Markey (D-MA)
    Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR)
    Senator Brian Schatz (D-HI)
    Senator Tom Udall (D-NM)
    Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
    Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)

    WHAT IS ‘MEDICARE FOR ALL’? BERNIE SANDERS SET TO UNVEIL HEALTH CARE BILL

    A June 2017 Pew Research Center survey found that 60 percent of Americans said the federal government should be responsible for ensuring health care coverage for all Americans.

    http://www.newsweek.com/medicare-all-bernie-sanders-663858

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Not gonna lie – I think Medicare for All might be a long shot, but I will actually love it if the net effect of the GOP’s years-long crusade to abolish Obamacare is universal health care.

      • Wolf Tracker

        It isn’t likely to happen with this Rep congress but is comparing and contrasting the Rep plan which is no insurance to what Dems want to do for a major 2018 and 2020 campaign issue.

    • OutOfOrbit

      the prob with those numbers is most of that 60% donut bother to vote while purdy much all of the remainder doz

      • Les Appentis De la résistance

        I don’t think donuts are allowed to vote.

        • OutOfOrbit

          damn

    • FlemmishSpy

      The GOP balks at medicare for some.

  • Nounverb911
    • From Russia with Love

      Ted must be the wanking member on some committee or another?

    • Bill D. Burger

      masturbaTED

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Title seemed promising, but it turned out to be a terrible TED talk.

    • ImGoingBacon

      I agree with Jimmy Kimmel. I think Ted has nocturnal emissions when dreaming about fucking over the poors.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    Totally just bought some snow leopard cubs online. Thanks, Amazon Prime!

    • Wild Cat

      I’m still waiting for my Screaming Hairy Baby Armadillos . . .

      • Mpeg

        If they don’t actually scream, I’ll want my money back actually be kind of relieved..

        • Wild Cat

          Sounds like my upstairs neighbors . . .

      • Southeast PDXer

        Wait – you mean there’s Screaming Hairy Baby Armadillos? Will they go well with my collection of screaming goats?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpccpglnNf0

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      They should do well with your zebras and baby hippos.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        HOA is being a total pain in the ass about my pets. Lots of bourgeois neoliberal bullshit about “no exotic animals!” and “your patio is too small for so many animals!”

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Amazon Prime has a pretty good return policy, fyi.

    • Panika MCD
    • Msgr_MΩment

      Coat or boot trim?

    • Bright Bart

      keep them away from Eric Trump.

    • cheetojeebus

      I once had a lion cub climb my leg. It was super sweet and all, but well, I suggest investing in some leather welding chaps or maybe a suit of armor?

  • Marion in Savannah

    There’s something particularly endearing when big cats and their cubs behave like kittens.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Listening to the sound of the water and watching kittehs was so soothing! They should have a web-cam of that to sooth people’s nerves.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Substantive policy issues?!? From this White House? Make me laugh, laughing boy.

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  • Crystalclear12

    I need to go the liquor store.
    It’s never a good sign when the wonkagenda has emergency kittens.
    Better stock up.

  • tza

    Well I hope it rallies the base as expected but I do see certain ways for it to backfire as well. May my worry come to nothing and this be good.

  • Mpeg

    *flurry of chainsaw-crankin’, caped crusadin’, habit-wearin’ whirlin dervish*

    “NUN SHALL PASS!!!”

  • Bill D. Burger

    Takin ‘ a ride on my eddiphant’ named Amazon and we stop to say “Morning!” to Simba…..also purchased on Amazon.

    http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1236337527_tiger_attack.gif

  • Les Appentis De la résistance

    Rexxon is the only Russia analyst the State Dept. needs.

    • From Russia with Love

      Hmmm, lemme sleep on it.

  • William

    Fake photo. I’m fairly certain Bernie doesn’t own a comb.

    • From Russia with Love

      Or get his teeth whitened.

  • YoBunnyBunny

    Also too: Why are Puss-Grab and Q-Tip Head waiting to get out their official portraits done so that they can festoon on all the walls of government buildings with them?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/after-nine-months-federal-offices-are-still-waiting-to-hang-trumps-picture/2017/09/11/b36025c0-94b5-11e7-aace-04b862b2b3f3_story.html?utm_term=.1f1ae42feaf1

    Federal agencies ordered photographs of their new commander in chief months ago. But they say they are still waiting for the Government Publishing Office, the printer of official portraits, to send them for distribution by the General Services Administration, which owns or leases 9,600 federal buildings across the country.

    The Government Publishing Office says it has yet to receive the images from the White House. And the White House says the president and vice president have not yet decided when they will sit for the type of high-quality official photographs usually churned out by the modern GPO, continuing a portrait tradition that began after the Civil War.

    Eh, we’ll be getting their mug shots soon enough, though…

  • Scooby

    I think the US is going to need some major contagious disease that kills a lot of people to realise single payer is indeed the way to go.

  • Carpe Vagenda

    I think it’s kind of hilarious that with the parade of fringey Coney Island whitefish this administration packed into (and later kicked out of) the White House, they’re just now noticing that legendary reality TV supervillain Omarosa is not a team player.

    Especially since she’s pretty much the only one in the building with any experience in the White House.

    • jesterpunk

      She was on the apprentice. That is why she was hired, Trump knows her and she worships him.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Well, yeah. But so does the whole rest of the world. She’s on every published list of greatest TV villains. And now everyone is uniquely offended by her? Please.

    • Zyxomma

      Coney Island whitefish LIBELZ!!1!!!11!!!

  • FauxAntocles

    When does the investigation into NRA-Putin ties begin?

  • ariel_gee_398

    Many things about the Bernie would have won crowd bother me, but today, it’s this: If there’s no policy difference between Hillary and Trump, or any Dems and Republicans, for that matter, how would Bernie have managed to beat Trump after he failed to beat Hillary?

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Right? Why would he have been immune to Russian meddling, or the inevitable anti-Semitism and red-baiting?

      • From Russia with Love

        Because Bros, man!

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Penis.

      • Elvis Causticfellow

        And atheist-baiting.

    • jesterpunk
    • Wolf Tracker

      A June 2017 Pew Research Center survey found that 60 percent of Americans said the federal government should be responsible for ensuring health care coverage for all Americans.

      Liberals, Independents and even some Reps want Universal health care.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Are you TRYING to bait the usual suspects?

      • Marceline

        They’re good for goosing traffic stats if nothing else.

      • janecita

        I’m not the usual suspect, but fuck, I’m tired of all the Bernie hating!

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          I don’t hate Bernie; I give him a lot of credit for what he does right. It just seems that it is impossible to justifiably criticize him without getting in it ass deep with some very predictable responses.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          Welcome to our world

          –Hillary voters

        • VirginiaWackelpudding

          It’s not just Bernie hating. He’s only a scapegoat. It’s hating everything and everyone right now. This is a bottom of the barrel point for America and lots of folks would like everyone to just shut up and do their damn jobs. STOP WITH THE GREED ALREADY

          • Marceline

            Actually for me it is Bernie hating. After his 2010 filibuster I thought he was the real deal. He’s not and I tend to hold grudges against people who I once supported when they turn out to be frauds. (see also: John Edwards and Anthony Weiner)

          • pstokk

            I don’t see Wiener as a fraud. Did he ever waver on strictly political matters throughout his long, drawn out debacle?
            Yes the stuff he did is a deal-breaker, and he squandered energy and resources that went to putting him where he was, but did he change politically, or in terms of willingness to fight?

          • Marceline

            True. I should separate between the people who just turned out to be personally reprehensible versus ones whose betrayal was political.

    • janecita

      Can’t we just be happy about Bernie actually trying to do something for the country?

      • ariel_gee_398

        I am not hating on Bernie and I hope that some form of universal healthcare succeeds. I am hating on the people who insist that he would have won the election.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Try having one of them as your best friend.

          • ariel_gee_398

            I see why you drink.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            And why I very nearly put said person through the drum kit the other night.

          • ariel_gee_398

            More beer is cheaper than a new drum kit.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            It’s pretty punk rock though.

      • Courser_Resistance

        This. I really hate what he did during the election but hey, at least he’s pushing legislation that he constantly yapped about during the campaign. I’m delighted to see so many Dems quickly sign on.

  • Mpeg

    Marriott, proving that the Invisible Hand giveth, and taketh; abandoneth, and forsaketh~

  • Me not sure

    Is there a more powerful example of God’s awesome power than a nun with a chainsaw? The Florida Chainsaw Mass?

  • Nounverb911
    • Mary Theresa

      Mooch, your 15 minutes of fame expired. Let it go.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Nap now?
    Late morning nap?
    Mid afternoon nap?

    Retirement comes with a lot of tough decisions.

    • Wolf Tracker

      10 and 3 works for me.

    • Marion in Savannah

      AOT,K. Retirement also comes with lots of privileges!

    • William

      I just retired. A lot of people told me It would be boring and unfulfilling. Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. I have a wonderful wife, six grandchildren, a boat, motorcycle, Martin guitar, gym membership, and pie….yes there is pie. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c10aca5e5d2c581c3f079cc9e55dcbf616f877ff4458b2c3bc22ed30fad3c85c.jpg

    • rocktonsam

      Golf first then nap. No wait, golf first, couple of beers then nap. Repeat after lunch.

    • bbayliss

      I’ve found they are not mutually exclusive.

    • SeeTrain65

      While you decide, why don’t you take a nap?

  • spangled

    oooh dreamy martin heinrich is cosponsoring medicare for all as well? talk about your stealth presidential candidate – and president of my heart!

  • bbayliss

    “A bipartisan group of House Reps. pushed through an amendment that would restore the 2015 restrictions on civil asset forfeiture that Jeff Sessions tried to kill. AND IT PASSED.”
    Tweet the FBI sent after the firing of Comey:
    https://twitter.com/FBI/status/862717552400584704

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  • Courser_Resistance

    Sister Ann looks like a Franciscan nun by her brown habit. I did some work with those ladies and they are serious, ‘get your hands dirty’ sisters. Not all sisters wear the full habit anymore, but it’s always their choice.

  • Nounverb911
  • Daniel Hooper

    So I’ve been looking to try and expand beyond fiction writing, and this came in on a writing job mailing list: https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/wri/6302087480.html

    Does it strike anybody else as odd that, for whatever site that’s advertising this job has 300K followers, but apparently doesn’t have a name? Like, anywhere? Pretty sure it’s not from Wonkette just from the short article length they’re asking for, but… I dunno; anybody else get a weird vibe off this supposedly liberal/progressive job posting?

    • A Groucho Marxist

      Eh, kinda. Still worth a shot to contact them, I would think, if only to get a little more information.

  • Persistent Tennessee Rain

    Also too, this is a big fucking deal:

    Supreme Court Puts Redrawing Of Texas Electoral Maps On Hold

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/supreme-court-texas-electoral-maps_us_59b8d9a7e4b02da0e13d674b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    Hasa Diga Eebowai

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      The ability to now pack the courts with all the appointments that they blocked under Obama is going to keep the Repubs supporting Drumpf. In case no one has pointed it out lately, we are so fucking screwed.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        More votes are cast for democrats than republicans (which you already know), but those fuckers keep preening on about the “will of the people.” Fuck. Just fuck.

      • pstokk

        It’s not over till it’s over.
        Could be Democratic sweep in 2018, or one house, despite gerrymandering and suppression.
        Could be a win in 2020.
        The blue states have never really tested their collective strength in a death-match with Republicanism with a strangle-hold on federal levers of power.
        The SC is fucked up, yes, and it will get worse, but lower levels are not entirely lost yet.
        Don’t count out the role of large businesses, who have influence, and might very well end up preferring stability, a rational social-democratic order in preference to a kleptocracy and crony-based regime that starts to hurt them.
        As a pleasant fantasy, in a really dire situation verging on armed confrontation between federal and state troops, I could imagine a Democratic WH and Congress forcing a mass resignation from the SC and a new court appointed with nominally non-ideological profiles, sort of a Garland court. And imposing a federal elections and district drawing agency, with teeth. Also an end-run around the electoral college.
        It wouldn’t be pretty, but the slow coup in progress now is pretty ugly too.

    • cheetojeebus

      well, fuck.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        Yep. Fuck Kennedy in the eyeball.

    • renegade500

      Yeah, shit like this is why I drink. I’m represented by a rep who is from the College Station area – which is nowhere fucking near Austin, where I live.

  • beatbort

    Re. the alleged “divide” among Democrats, Bernie Bots vs. everyone else, I can only defer to the eloquence of Rodney King:

    “People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?
    Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the
    kids? … It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to
    change anything. We’ll, we’ll get our justice … Please, we can get
    along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a
    while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to beat
    it. Let’s try to work it out.”

  • doktorzoom

    Is Troma still a going concern? “Night of the Chainsaw Nuns” would be a great movie.

    • Marion in Savannah

      Hope you’re feeling better — we waz worried.

      • doktorzoom

        Just a routine bout of Ebola.

    • Finnibar87

      Get Kevin Smith on it, stat!

    • A perfect opportunity for a reprisal of the role of “Preacher Man Bob”, picking up where he left off in “Buttcrack”.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WfbOFDIyPs

    • therblig

      i’d rather see the coen brothers make “Blood Wimple”

      • doktorzoom

        I have no upvoter and I must upvote.

        • SeeTrain65

          I humbly offer my upvote for those who have none.

  • jodyleek

    The convents alive,
    With the sound of chainsaws…

  • Manchin better be for it. His constituents probably per capita need it more than anywhere else. Also i dig the name berniecare

  • VirginiaWackelpudding

    Serious question time. Why do we have to have political parties? Is it part of our team mentality? Can’t we simply elect the best person to fill the position? By best I mean least corrupt, most intelligent, least hateful jerk? Ideology seems to be the excuse for not getting things done. No one wants cross the imaginary boundary or piss off their party. Why is there a divide? We don’t need one right now. Just look at what the person supports and vote wisely.

    • Because individually we hold as much power as the next millionaire. But collectively we fucking kick ass

      • Also most fucks cant be bothered to glace at what people say let alone do. And this for sure goes for leftists as well as righties

      • VirginiaWackelpudding

        Thanks, that got me back to a decent reality. But how is our team doing against the billionaire team?

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I don’t know but it seems that the whole idea of “team” (grouping with other like-minded or similarly talented folks) arose because being part of a team makes the individual stronger. I can’t imagine a non-aligned person being able to get any traction; both sides would regard him/her as an interloper.
      However – I do agree with your point that we should be voting for those whose positions we support, and your other point that the divide has gotten out of hand.

      • pstokk

        “The divide” has not gotten out of hand. That’s a subtle expression of bothsiderism.
        The Republican Party has drifted both far rightwards, and way into crazyland, where ideological landmarks are only a rough guide. Democrats shift back and forth within a narrow band of the center-left, and have stayed put there. The “divide” is a gap opened up by Republican movement, its intransigence is an artifact of Republican fuckery.

    • Wolf Tracker

      That was possible before it cost a billion dollars to run an election campaign.

      • VirginiaWackelpudding

        That is a disgusting truth. I’m ready to become a hermit because this society sux.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      and then the richest person or the one with the richest friends who own newspapers wins forever and ever the end.

      Which is to say that there’ll still be a party, and it will be Republican.

      • Zyxomma

        Well, a wealthy Democrat who thought she could ad-buy her way into an undeserved City Council seat was soundly defeated in District 2 yesterday, and the woman who deserved said seat beat her 4-1, despite a crowded field (five candidates) and the endorsement of Lady Rich by NY Daily News.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Well, yeah, because there’s a party :)

          Which didn’t solve the problem of that scumbag Ruben Diaz Sr, sadly.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Because, unfortunately, 240 years ago the people who founded this country had two different ideas of how it should be run. The first 8 years weren’t so bad, since Washington was President and steadfastly refused to be involved in the bickering between the Federalists and Anti-federalists (who later became Democratic-Republicans). But once he decided to retire, the divides started to show. Adams (a staunch supporter of centralized federal power) and Jefferson (a staunch supporter of state’s rights) loathed each other, and once Washington was gone they each tried to steer government towards their philosophy. And thus it has been ever since.

      • therblig

        so, when do we tear down their statues and make everything ok? isn’t that what trumpy expects us to do?

      • VirginiaWackelpudding

        Damn. It’s a little religion. Subconsciously I knew that.

    • LeftyProud

      Good question. A friend of mine (Democrat) was groaning about the independents during the election – not against Bernie actually, he thinks Bernie was good for the party. But he thinks people need to “choose a side.” I think that goes too far. But that does indicate that people need to identify with a platform and party.

      • Marceline

        I’ve seen people say that independents should form their own party. I’m mystified as to what that platform would be.

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

      Start trying to break up the Democratic party then have fun enjoying a few more decades of Republican power.

      • VirginiaWackelpudding

        They kinda did that to themselves. But the GOP did too with the teaparty loons. Everything is fragmenting and it’s teams within teams. This isn’t working anymore.

        • Marceline

          The difference is that the GOP embraced the tea party. The Dems need to not make the same mistake with the Berniacs.

    • Marceline

      It’s not like political parties are just an American thing. What’s unusual about people with a common set of priorities joining together to advocate for those priorities?

      • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

        It’s almost as if they haven’t noticed that a strong organized party system has given Republicans control of EVERYTHING.

      • VirginiaWackelpudding

        All countries have them. The your side our side thing is human nature. You are like us good, you are not like us bad. We forget that we are all human and that should be our only priority right now. BUT MONIEZ! SO MUCH WINNING! It’s disgusting having competition for human decency. Forgive me, It’s my yelling at clouds time of the month.

    • Lord Jim

      Because you usually need a big organization like a political party to get good folks elected. Organizations sometimes become fossilized, but that doesn’t mean they need to be abolished – they need reform, to be refocused to their original purpose. You know how people deplore govt, wishing that people could just do what they want? Well, Thomas Jefferson only had part of the answer – “If men were angels there would be no need for government.” But it’s not just about restraining the bad. It’s about using the power of a collective to increase the power to do good. “Promote the general welfare”. Sometimes it doesn’t do that, but that just means we need better govt, not NO govt. Maybe the same with political parties?

  • Marceline

    In other good news, we flipped two red state seats blue yesterday. One in NH (our send flipped seat) and one in Oklahoma (our third.)

    https://shareblue.com/surging-democrats-turn-deep-red-seats-to-blue-in-huge-double-victory-night/

    • Wolf Tracker

      States starting to wake up and midterms are looking good for Dems.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Thank you. That is good news.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      I’m particularly pleased about Oklahoma because that’s Real America for sure and if Trump is seen to be toxic there

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    • BeachBum

      Thanks !

  • LeftyProud

    VERY disappointed in Pelosi for not endorsing the Medicare for all bill.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pelosi-not-endorsing-bernie-sanders-health-care-bill

    • Wolf Tracker

      Yup she made a big mistake.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      I’m not. Bernie’s bill isn’t actionable. It’s troll insurance. His trolls aren’t going to lay off her no matter what she does.

      • Wolf Tracker

        A June 2017 Pew Research Center survey found that 60 percent of Americans said the federal government should be responsible for ensuring health care coverage for all Americans.

        • ltmcdies

          everybody wants everything til they somebody hands them the bill

          Is the CBO going to be looking at the numbers?

      • Marceline

        Yep. This is just a way to short circuit the purity ponies.

        • Wolf Tracker

          You can not win a national election without Liberals and Independents.

          • ltmcdies

            and what’s that got to with the action-ability of the Sanders bill.

            nothing.

          • weighmaster

            Apparently, you can’t even win an election by getting 3 million more votes.

          • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

            Especially if those Liberals and Independents throw the election as a big FU to Democrats.

          • Manders

            He’s literally copying and pasting a comment he made yesterday. He gets troll-y about Bernie.

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            I blocked him after he said something about Hillary playing the sex card.

          • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

            12% of Sanders’ voters voting Trump into office after months of “Hillary didn’t pass our progressive test”– I admit, it gets under my skin. Strange, I know.

    • Which one? The one making a big splash today or the one conyers has been working on since 2003? Which is the same thing with a new name

      • Wolf Tracker

        How much support did Conyer’s hve?

        Cosponsors:

        Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)
        Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
        Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ)
        Senator Al Franken (D-MN)
        Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
        Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA)
        Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM)
        Senator Mazie Hirono (D-HI)
        Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
        Senator Ed Markey (D-MA)
        Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR)
        Senator Brian Schatz (D-HI)
        Senator Tom Udall (D-NM)
        Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
        Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)

        WHAT IS ‘MEDICARE FOR ALL’? BERNIE SANDERS SET TO UNVEIL HEALTH CARE BILL

        A June 2017 Pew Research Center survey found that 60 percent of Americans said the federal government should be responsible for ensuring health care coverage for all Americans.

        http://www.newsweek.com/medicare-all-bernie-sanders-663858

        • redblack

          how much support does conyers’ bill have? around 150 cosponsors and rising weekly, last i checked. that’s 1/3 of the house.

          edit: sorry. 117 cosponsors.

          it’s HR 676.

          • Wolf Tracker

            The they are on the same side and if Conyer’s can’t get it to the floor in the house Sanders should try in the Senate.

            Right?

          • redblack

            this is a war of attrition. every session, conyers’ bill gains more cosponsors. when he can’t get it to the floor, he pulls it and re-introduces it next session.

            edit: and it’s beneficial to have similar bills in each house. they’re mutually exclusive until one or both passes, then they’re resolved in joint session, i think.

    • UnsaltedSinner

      If she opposed universal healthcare, that would be bad. But demanding support for a bill that exists only for PR purposes seems like a silly litmus test for Democrats.

      Keep your eyes on the ball. Getting universal healthcare is more important than which method you end up using to get it, and I’m pretty sure Pelosi knows a thing or two about what it will take to make it happen.

      • pstokk

        On the other hand, if it’s only for PR (part of which btw is firing up the base), and doesn’t hinder whatever chess match she might be playing, what’s the downside for her of supporting it?

        • UnsaltedSinner

          She may feel that supporting this now would box her in and prevent her from supporting other forms of universal care later.

          • pstokk

            She may feel that, but I don’t see how that would work.
            It’s maybe more a question of wanting to appear centrist or responsible or something, for her CA. voters? She’s an experienced politician, so I assume she reads her voters well, but sometimes voters move ahead of their rep.

        • Marceline

          I’ve been thinking a lot about that. The GOP kept its base fired up with symbolic nonsense like repealing the ACA and clearly there are plenty of people on the left who care more about symbolism than policy so if this keeps them feeling good, what harm can it do?

          • pstokk

            Also, not purely symbolic in the way that say Benghazi hearings or Obamacare repeals were. It’s a serious proposal, that say a Democratic Congress and WH in 2020 could force through. Also, politics involves a lot of symbolism, no? It sets the stage, and makes actual policy thinkable and then doable.
            Like gay marriage, for example.

          • Frank Underboob

            If nothing else, it’ll move the Overton Window in the right direction.

    • HellhathnofuryDemme

      And I’m disappointed to see so much of our non-commenting devolve into a “Bernie vs the Democrats” argument these days.
      I can avoid posts specifically about Hillary or Kamala, but Wonkagenda?!
      (Not good for my blood pressure. And I’m not saying it’s your fault.)

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Dunno, I like her (and Schumer’s) position that her job is to defend the ACA.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Another “economically anxious” Trump supporter, y’all!

    A man is in jail following what police say was his reaction over an anti-Trump t-shirt. Porterville Police say the man asked another man to take the shirt off and if he didn’t, he would shoot him. Some people are questioning, if a man took things too far.

    • Only some atr questioning?

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Well, they had to throw in the guy who said “You must respect him because he is President”, yadda yadda *makes jerking off motion*

        • SeeTrain65

          Ultimately the two serrated and went their separate ways, said Carrillo.

          “Respect him just because. That’s his first name president,” said Andrew Smegelski.

          REPEAT: Is there anyone at this station who knows how to write a sentence?

        • Frank Underboob

          The reporter was Cruz?

    • SeeTrain65

      And that’s how the lede paragraph reads. An unnecessary comma in the final sentence and ambiguity about which man overreacted?

      BTW: Is there anyone at this station who knows how to write a sentence?

      • BeachBum

        Um, no, not really, just lots of words and stuff.

        • SeeTrain65

          The author threw a bunch of words into a paper bag and spilled them all over her keyboard.

          I haven’t seen a story written that badly since I saw Showgirls.

      • Frank Underboob

        I just assumed that the shooter was that mysterious guy from Game of Thrones.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        It might very well have been penned by an AI. If it’s really weird, there’s a good chance no human was ever involved in its creation.

    • PubOption

      I note that the Trump supporter was wearing a brown shirt.

      • Lord Jim

        Because of course.

  • UnsaltedSinner
    • Marceline

      Marc Thiessen has his head so far up his own ass he’s chewing on his own liver.

      • Bitter Scribe

        But we can sleep better at night knowing Mickey Kaus is bravely defending the Republic against kids who were brought here when they were preschoolers.

      • Parakeetist

        win

    • HellhathnofuryDemme

      A couple of prizes there!
      (I can’t believe anyone prints the crap they write!)

  • pstokk

    So, getting caught up.
    How did the whole Ted Cruz thing shake out, so to speak?

  • Zyxomma

    The snow leopards are the most adorable of kittehs. In local news, my chosen candidate won the Democratic primary for City Council in District 2; the rich candidate who thought she could ad-buy this election suffered an overwhelming loss, despite the endorsement of NY Daily News. In hyperlocal news, it looks like the problem with my modem was an extra piece of hardware on the cable, now removed. Time will tell. I have another appointment in case it wasn’t the problem, but I can cancel it.

  • PubOption

    Did Yoder have to Force the issue with the work visa?

  • Bitter Scribe

    Before we get all mushy over Kevin Yoder for having a spasm of decency, let’s remember he voted against DACA like a good little Republican. I really hate how Republicans get praise every time they do the least little not-horrible thing.

    • BeachBum

      Reminds me of teaching your cockroaches not to come out when guests are around.

    • Wojciech

      Yeah, it’s like praising your cat when it pees in the litter box like it should for once (instead of all over your rug, like it usually does).

  • HellhathnofuryDemme

    Hey, everybody!
    Science!
    Just had a loooong 8 hour session with a neuro-psychologist.
    I wanted to share some of the stuff he told me.
    Doing “brain teaser” exercises, to stay sharp do not seem to do much.
    The Mediterranean diet helps a little, but not much.
    What REALLY helps is (ugh!) exercise. Something about increased oxygen flow to the brain makes a big difference.
    Also, if you were diagnosed with sleep apnea, lost a lot of weight, (Mr. Demme!), and think the apnea is gone, it’s probably not. They are finding now, that sleep apnea MAY get better, but unless you have had a sleep study that clears you, you may still have it. Even doctors told their patients that all was well, but now are finding out the their patients still have it.
    Sorry if this is old news, but I wanted to share.

    • LeighBowery’sLuxuryComedy

      Hush now. Staying sharp is my excuse for playing puzzle games.

  • alpacapunchbowl

    Completely OT to everything that’s been posted yet today, but too good not to share. I may re-post on tonight’s open thread.
    http://milwaukeerecord.com/city-life/milwaukee-county-sheriffs-office-facebook-page/

  • Parakeetist

    OT: this is kinda weird. I’m at the library, using Firefox to read the site, and I can’t get the new posts. Unless this is the newest post, in which case, this post does not exist.

    Somebody call Dr. Who?

  • Maggielle

    So this is like a open thread? I hope so because I need to talk about how upsetting and horrifying that mass shooting in Plano, Texas is. Eight people, plus the shooter. The information is coming out about the identities of the victims and they all look like people I know (although I don’t) and would like. It makes me think about a few years, way back in the day, when I regularly attended football watching parties with a group of friends – mostly neighbors, the core group, and friends. It was potluck, and it was so much fun. There were doctors, dentists, postal workers, secretaries, housewives and househusbands, techies, kids, dogs, and even emus. The emus weren’t invited in, but they wandered over from the farm next door and stared at us over the fence.

    People got along okay, although there’s always something going on in a neighborhood. There was an unpleasant divorce, but eventually the divorcing couple met and married other people, and I think there were a few times when they all showed up on game day (not often, still some hard feelings).

    Those people in Plano were there to watch the game and enjoy hanging out with friends. If they were like me, their “situational awareness” antennae would have been totally dormant. My old group rooted for the 49ers and were thrilled whenever we’d beat the mighty Cowboys. But that group of friends was just like us, and they’re all dead and it has shaken me severely. And there’s nothing I can do, because guns guns guns.

    • HazooToo

      Just sayin, I have overshared EVerything here, so be not worried.

  • thepoliticalcat

    FARK BERNIE! FARK HIM NINE WAYS TO SUNDAY! Not RTing this. Also too, Medicare for All is John Conyers’ baby, not fucking Bernie’s. He’s just tryna take credit for other ppl’s work, as usual.

    • HazooToo

      And also there is still no detail to the plan. The ONE AND ONLY LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT about the idea on our side was “How. Are. You. Going. To. Get. It. Done.” And there is still no answer. From what I’ve read, he’s going to “give the people options”. So. Billions of people with no experience in either law, healthcare, or insurance obviously know better than Congressfolk and their experts. This doesn’t HAVE to be just a fucking litmus test or rallying fucking flag! We could DOOOO this if we had a fucking PLAAAN!!!

  • SprinklemagicResistancebuns

    I aspire to be as chill as snow leopard mom.

  • Suse

    Hide those snow leopards from Uday and Qusay!

  • guppy06

    And here’s your morning Nice Time! SNOW LEOPARD CUBS!

    Keep the sound off or you’ll have to pee.

  • Tzipora Kaplan

    thank you for your emergency kittens Dominic and also WTF MARRIOTT GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    I realize I will just be berated for my naivete, but any word on when Trump’s one million buckadingdong donation to Houston is coming through?

    Also, does Florida get one of those million dollar checks as well?

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Expecting the man that ripped off children’s charities to really ante up dineros for a city full of browns and blacks? Is that naivety? Hmmmm. I can think of a different word.

  • SweetDeeKat

    Squeee, snow leopard babbies! Best part of my day so far.

    • Khavrinen

      Snow leopards are the best part of any day!

  • King Beauregard

    Just a reminder, when Vermont tried to do single payer, it would have required a 9% income tax increase and an 11.5% payroll tax increase. It is reasonable to believe that Bernie’s new single payer proposal would cost something comparable.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/13/16304474/medicare-for-all-plan-cost-bernie-sanders

    As always, until we rein in medical COSTS, medical coverage in any form is going to remain expensive. If Bernie were sincere about helping the American people, he would focus on medical costs; but because he’s decided single payer is magic, that’s what we’re stuck focusing on.

    Fuck Sanders. Dude is perpetually full of crap; if we could attach a paddlewheel to his chin to catch the crap dropping out, it could power Burlington.

  • Odewole

    More life – less war.

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