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The American Civil Liberties Union warned yesterday that Immigration and Customs Enforcement has sent a little tiny request to the National Archives and Record Administration (NARA) asking for permission to adjust the timetable on which it decides to keep or destroy records. Ah, but it’s not just a routine adjustment for efficiency, no, not quite:

An entire paper trail for a system rife with human rights and constitutional abuses is at stake.

ICE has asked for permission to begin routinely destroying 11 kinds of records, including those related to sexual assaults, solitary confinement and even deaths of people in its custody. Other records subject to destruction include alternatives to detention programs; regular detention monitoring reports, logs about the people detained in ICE facilities and communications from the public reporting detention abuses.

The records would be subject to differing timelines; records of sexual assaults or deaths in custody would be kept for 20 years, while ICE would like to scrub records on solitary confinement after just three years. You say you were abused while in custody? Oh. No record of that.

The ACLU notes the request to purge ICE’s records more frequently is “all the more disturbing” in light of the Trump administration’s plans to vastly expand detentions and deportations of those in the country without proper documentation. But why would you want to document government wrongdoing against undocumented immigrants, anyway? It’s not like they’re people with rights or anything.

Worse, NARA has already provisionally approved the agency’s request to destroy its records more quickly, with some pretty weird logic:

In cases of sexual assault and death, for example, NARA states that these records “do not document significant actions of Federal officials.” It’s hard to believe that the actions of a federal official are not significant in the death or sexual assault of an individual who is in federal immigration custody. NARA also posited that in cases of sexual assault, that the “information is highly sensitive and does not warrant retention.”

Twenty years may seem like plenty of time to keep such records, but given that the government routinely drags its feet with records requests when it’s accused of wrongdoing, and that it can take years to build legal cases, shouldn’t serious incidents be documented, like, forever? As the ACLU notes:

Recent reports by advocacy groups document sexual assaults in detention without adequate investigation or remedy, sub-standard medical care, the overuse of solitary confinement as well as threats and physical assault by custody staff. Since October 2016, there have been 10 deaths in immigration detention. Many of the records used in these reports and analyses would not have been made available without sustained public pressure to force ICE to maintain and divulge this information.

So now the New Cruelty not only wants to ramp up its heinous fuckery against undocumented migrants, it wants to send the records related to their detention down the Memory Hole. That just might be the last step in truly making them Unpersons.

In related news, Donald Trump appears to be getting ready to end the one category of protection for undocumented people left from the Obama administration, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, even though he had said earlier this year that DREAMER kids should be “treated with a lot of heart,” and had even told the Associated Press that those covered by DACA should “rest easy.” Oh, but you know Donald Trump never really keeps his word, ever, so why do we even bother pointing out he’s gone back on it? It’s just an old habit left over from writing about politicians who at least pretended consistency mattered.

But now, Trump’s giving some thought to just how much heart he should use in either ending DACA immediately, like maybe tonight, which would certainly increase 800,000 recipients’ heart rates, or announcing he’ll simply let it die off as existing two-year work permits end, and then deport the recipients gradually, which would allow for a more evenly distributed rate of heartbreak.

A group of 10 state attorney generals, plus the governor of Idaho, gave Trump an ultimatum in June: End DACA by September 5, or they’d sue to end the program, because what could be more American than deporting people brought here as children, for whom America is their only home? We must deport everyone, lest future children decide to be born to people who cross the border illegally. If Trump doesn’t act, the attorney generals would add DACA to their lawsuit against another Obama program, Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA), which the Trump administration already gave up on earlier this year. Adding DACA to the lawsuit would force the Justice Department to decide whether to defend the policy in court; that seems unlikely, given A.G. Jeff Sessions’s (vomit) opposition to DACA.

The New Cruelty marches on. And with everyone paying attention to Houston and hurricane cleanup, who’ll even miss 800,000 young people and their stupid American Dreams?

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  • Joe Beese
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Crystalclear12

      BOTH THE SAME!!!.

  • Bill D. Burger

    So now the New Cruelty not only wants to ramp up its heinous fuckery against undocumented migrants, it wants to send the records related to their detention down the Memory Hole. That just might be the last step in truly making them Unpersons.

    “All undocumented migrants report to the Trump Memory Hole for processing.”

    http://www.gifbin.com/bin/320sw0sw7847.gif

  • SomeBigRedDog

    With the existence of scanners, why do we need to “scrub” any records? In this day and age all records should be digitized and kept. Like forever.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      We recently went “paperless” for most of our record-keeping. But state and federal law specifically prohibits us from digitizing background checks based off of fingerprints. So those have to be kept in paper files.

    • Crystalclear12

      Hey, do we ask how you get rid of your evidence?
      ICE

    • TJ Barke

      Bit rot is a thing.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        try Gold Bond…

        • TJ Barke

          I don’t think dust and talc are great for computer components…

          • Marion in Savannah

            But it’s supposed to help prevent rot!

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            nobody wants their bits to rot!

  • doktorzoom

    See, we went and gave you some Nice Time, and then the antidote to that.

  • Bitter Scribe

    I’ll bet every one of those 10 attorney generals suing to get rid of DACA considers himself a good Christian. Fuckers.

    • doktorzoom

      Remember the parable of the Good Samaritan, who nursed the man beaten by thieves back to health, and was then promptly deported.

  • Jenny

    If I gotta keep a statement about royalty interests for 20 fucking years, these assholes can hold on to rape reports just a bit longer.

    Fucking crap bags.

  • Crystalclear12

    Kittens!!

    Where are horror mitigating kittens?
    Dok, this has been an issue in the past and this time there is no bad painting to point and laugh at.

  • Seamus Romney

    Her cap says FLOTUS. It matches her bag and shoes so, yay?

    (Imagine the outcry of outrage if Michelle Obama had such a cap made.)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a30963bbc792533912be1c5e970ba29e54b1d550eb1e8d8d391c4540e2c26985.jpg

    • Bill D. Burger

      It was the acronym she used to remember what she needed to do to secure a future in this country while she was here as an illegal immigrant:

      F uck
      L echerous
      O ld
      T rump
      U ntil
      S ecure

      • Seamus Romney

        Well played my friend.

    • ariel_gee_398

      He makes Mel and Ivanka wear caps so he knows which one he’s allowed to grope.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        And accidentally switches them with suspicious frequency.

    • kaydenpat

      Mrs. Obama would be called “uppity”, for one.

      • ariel_gee_398

        Simultaneously uppity and thuggish, I dare say.

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

          And also having a great big weirdly misshapen curved hairy schlong.

    • Putin voted for a guy who likes getting pissed on by hookers, not you dear

  • Claire

    Spicey got to meet the Pope!

    No lie, I’m happy for him. Kicking him off the Pope-meeting list was a shitheel move even for Trump.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/348415-sean-spicer-finally-meets-pope-francis

    • Lambsendbeds

      I’m happy that the shitheel had to explain to Pope Francis how he, as a “good Catholic”, could have told all those huge lies to try and cover up for Kim Jong Orange.

    • Reximus

      THAT story, among all the douchebag things Trumpy is on the hook for, is truly all you need to know what a shit-bag this cunt is

      • NellCote71

        Exactly. While the glow twins, Javanka, are front and center.

    • kaydenpat

      Liar Spice gets to meet the Pope. Get it right.

  • Joe Beese
    • I’m with Scruffy on this one:

      http://i.imgur.com/7lWjDiH.png

      • Marykcortez

        Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family!!!
        On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
        >>>http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash440TopProductions/GetPay$97/Hour…….

      • Lilliansmercurio

        Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family!!!
        On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four
        weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
        >>>http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash300TopSky/GetPay$97/Hour…….

    • Little Lulu Ω

      Yes, indeed!

  • WIDTAP

    Smart move. Look at how keeping good records worked out for the Nazi commanders.

  • TJ Barke

    JESUS. FUCKING. CHRIST.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Of course DACA needs to be ended!
    WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DON’T YOU GET?!?!?*

    *does not apply to racist shitbag AZ ex-sheriffs

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    I have a sprained redacter and am thus unable to non-comment.

    • Crystalclear12

      We’ll assume there was a rage scream and sharp, rusty votes involved.

  • Moebym of the Returners
    • DerrickWildcat

      Your cat is doing that thing.

    • Lambsendbeds

      This shows why all tortoiseshell kittehs are dizzy. They are wounded up wrong.

      • Marion in Savannah

        I’m staff to one. I know, I know…

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Nice quilt…

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Damn fine potato, I’d say.

      • TJ Barke

        Too much fuzz. Would not bake. 0/10

  • Nockular cavity

    You won’t have a name as you ride the big airplane
    All they will call you is “deportee”
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=flkuZJ1did8

  • Carpe Vagenda

    Relevant to absolutely nothing at all: I’m listening to the TV going in the background, and they had an ancient travelogue about playing on TCM, and this is my favorite thing I’m going to hear all day:

    In Forest Lawn Cemetery, there’s something called The Church of the Recessional, which is an exact replica of St Margaret’s Church in Rottingdean, England. It was built in honor of Rudyard Kipling. It’s available for weddings.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Are the words” O my Best Beloved” mandatory in ceremonies there? Just so I could know?…

      • Carpe Vagenda

        I think it depends whether the bride has a trunk or the groom is a weasel.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      A wedding in a cemetery … questionable.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        At least the skeleton at the feast wouldn’t be one of the guests?

    • Latverian Diplomat

      WHEN the bride picked caterer goes out to the East
      Each guest acts like a babe an’ drinks like a beast,
      An’ ‘e wonders because ‘e is frequent dismissed
      Ere ‘e’s fit for to serve up hors d’oeuvres.
      Serve, serve, serve up a cocktail,
      Serve, serve, serve up an entree,
      Serve, serve, serve up the cake,
      Caterer of the Bride!

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Never been there. I could walk there. Not today, though, it’s 100.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        It’s just such a wonderfully random thing to exist.

  • snigsy

    Fucking hell.

  • NotReallyHere

    Donald Trump is a dick-headed shit-nozzle.

    I’m feeling very angry, so I’m going to go pet my cat now.

    • bupkus231

      Be gentle….

  • kaydenpat

    Just more evidence that we are creeping towards full blown fascism.

    • TJ Barke

      Some areas may already be there.

  • PixieThis

    I come here for the pussy pictures.

  • Joe Beese

    Swallowing a Mucinex tablet is like swallowing a Lego brick.

    • Bill D. Burger

      America’s epitaph!

    • Lambsendbeds

      You’re supposed to swallow them? Oh, that explains why they didn’t work for me.

      • Bill D. Burger

        Like the joke of the guy who told his audiologist his hearing aid didn’t work. Dr. pulls a suppository out of his ear.
        Man: “Oh, now I know what the problem is.”

    • Bitter Scribe

      Try swallowing a Centrum sometime.

      (Although I must say it’s worth it, if only for the potassium. Bye-bye post-workout leg cramps.)

  • Latverian Diplomat

    In a federal law enforcement constellation that includes the FBI, ATF, TSA, and DEA, the ICE still manages to come out being clearly the worst of the bunch. I’m guessing their mission is just a magnet for assholes, and they make no attempt to screen those assholes out.

    • TJ Barke

      You butter believe it.

    • Bitter Scribe

      TSA and DEA have their moments, but overall, I’m with you. Their very mission is the definition of dickishness.

    • La forza del resistino

      Let’s just say, if you’ve overstayed your visit from Canada and your name is Anderson, no prob. If your name is Alvarez, different situation.

      • willi0000000

        yeah . . . good luck getting back to Canada from Mexico.

  • Trump’s hurricane really is the best. Huge.

    Best ratings since Tiny Tim tiptoed through Miss Vicki’s tulips.
    https://youtu.be/SqfqW6RJVHw

  • Anna Rompage

    So, there’s a whole contingent of people on Twitter praising Trump’s response to Harvey, and blasting President Obama for golfing during Hurricane Katrina…

    Of course they’re all from places like InfoWars, The Blaze, and Deadbart….

    #BushWasPresident

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      It’s just insane how they’re able to get something like this started and then spread it around so quickly.

      • Bitter Scribe

        It’s not insane. It’s the internet.

      • Anna Rompage

        Russian bots…. Seriously…

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        They don’t “catch a break”. They lie and declare them loudly….

    • Bitter Scribe

      Remember when Fox News was insisting that Sandy would be “Obama’s Katrina”?

      Now some NYT schlub is saying Harvey gives Trump the chance to be presidential.

      Democrats can’t buy a break, and Republicans catch every single one.

    • Nockular cavity

      Well, you libs forget how Obummer lied us into the Iraq war!

      • NellCote71

        Who can forget Obama golfing on his ranch during 9/11.

    • ariel_gee_398

      That must be a blow to Kanye West’s ego, as well. People have forgotten his “President Bush doesn’t care about black people” outburst. I’m pretty sure that he, like Donnie, is one of those people that needs to believe that every word they’ve ever uttered is committed to the public’s memory.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Kanye didn’t say, “President Obama doesn’t care about black people”? Wow. I must be a very, very gullible person.

    • jesterpunk
  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    I’m pretty sure that was someone’s job back in 1984….

  • goonemeritus

    Say what you want about the Third Reich, at least they were willing to keep records.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      They had some good points. Very organized. Nice uniforms.

      • janecita

        Nice haircuts.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Parakeetist

      Hedgekitty!

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      Zomg those whiskers. And that ear-eating.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Sarah Palin at 14:59.

    (Although it’s perhaps worth noting that the NYT backtracked and she sued anyway.

  • “WOOOOOOOOOO!”

    “We came out to see Trump speak. We’re so happy he’s here”

    “Did you hear what he said?”

    “No.”
    https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/0edcafd2a1ba3eb01765e525fc0df34aca.png

    We worship him who cares what he says or does

  • Daredevil
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      FAKE NEWS!

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • Daredevil
      • janecita

        FLOTUS? Really? What the fuck is wrong with these people?

        • bupkus231

          In her case, FLATUS ( not an acronym ) is more appropriate.

    • jesterpunk

      Is that real or photoshop?

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        Darth, so probably a ‘shop.

        • doktorzoom

          Darth, and not a doggie pic, so definitely a ‘shop.

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            Plus, he enjoys downsizing right-sizing Trumpy hands.

        • jesterpunk

          Is it bad that there is even a doubt if its real or not?

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            It is highly, cringingly believable. Andy Kaufman is no longer funny, man.

          • jesterpunk

            I cant imagine trying to be a political comedian anymore, just when you think you have a joke that could never ever happen Trump goes and does it.

          • willi0000000

            they’re jumping out the windows over at The Onion.

            [ fortunately it’s a first floor office ]

    • Fake, hands too big!

    • thixotropic jerk

      Not a real photo because that’s the “Precednet”

  • whitroth

    I’ll repeat what I said last week: I used to want all of these scum to die in jail… but I’m really starting to consider the French solution….

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      We need tumbrils to Make America Great Again!

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        And pelting! I miss pelting! Bring Back Pelting!…

      • whitroth

        Sound like a great business plan to me!

    • Daredevil

      Truth be told, after seeing that Paris Hilton has a special mansion for her dogs, I am too.

    • janecita

      The French Revolution sounds perfect to me.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Nobody expects the French Revolution.

        • OutOfOrbit

          good let us surprise’em!

      • OutOfOrbit

        except for the knife i can make a Guillotine wood love to do it WHY WAIT?

    • OutOfOrbit

      YES YES YES !!!

    • shastakoala

      Too much butter?

      • Skeptical_thinker

        Unpossible !!

    • janecita
      • OutOfOrbit

        BRAVO!

        • janecita

          Merci beaucoup:-)

          • OutOfOrbit

            the pleasure was mine ( :

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      I’m considering the French embassy, because boy howdy do I need a gay drink. Or twelve.

    • grindstone

      Not the French Mistake? (Voila!)

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Or a French Letter?

      • whitroth

        No, the French correct answer to the nobility (and let them eat cake)…. Really, really close haircuts….

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    A very accurate description of the execrable Joel Osteen:

    https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/902620801890967556

    • Daredevil

      I’m Catholic and Osteen is more of an Evangelical guy, but I saw him on tv a few times and he just comes off as a huckster and poor motivational speaker with a Jesus motif. Like, I can’t believe he got past a seminary.

      • Edith Prickly

        Osteen went to Oral Roberts University, so he learned Christianist grifting from a master.

        • Parakeetist

          ORU is not really school.

          • bupkus231

            Well, it certainly isn’t a seminary – that’s part of the graduate school. Osteen didn’t even get a bachelor’s let alone attend “divinity school” there….

    • (((fka_donnie_d)))

      Could be worse, he could have said Creflo Dollar.

      • Paul

        I absolutely admire the sheer balls of that con artist fleecing those rubes for newer faster bigger jets. I gape in awe.

        • (((fka_donnie_d)))

          Balls != lack of a moral compass

          • Paul

            Oh, TOTAL lack of anything even resembling that. I’m not defending him.
            That he’s so damn successful is what amazes me. I’ve been fascinated in these grifters since we read a poem in high school by Carl Sandburg. Yes we had a dangerous teacher.

            It’s only about a page long and old Carl eviscerates the Creflo Dollar of his day, the great con Billy Sunday. The guy put on quite a show. If you have a minute it’s worth the read.

            TO A CONTEMPORARY BUNKSHOOTER

            You come along. . . tearing your shirt. . . yelling about
            Jesus.
            Where do you get that stuff?
            What do you know about Jesus?
            Jesus had a way of talking soft and outside of a few
            bankers and higher-ups among the con men of Jerusalem
            everybody liked to have this Jesus around because
            he never made any fake passes and everything
            he said went and he helped the sick and gave the
            people hope.

            You come along squirting words at us, shaking your fist
            and calling us all damn fools so fierce the froth slobbers
            over your lips. . . always blabbing we’re all
            going to hell straight off and you know all about it.

            I’ve read Jesus’ words. I know what he said. You don’t
            throw any scare into me. I’ve got your number. I
            know how much you know about Jesus.
            He never came near clean people or dirty people but
            they felt cleaner because he came along. It was your
            crowd of bankers and business men and lawyers
            hired the sluggers and murderers who put Jesus out
            of the running.

            I say the same bunch backing you nailed the nails into
            the hands of this Jesus of Nazareth. He had lined
            up against him the same crooks and strong-arm men
            now lined up with you paying your way.

            This Jesus was good to look at, smelled good, listened
            good. He threw out something fresh and beautiful
            from the skin of his body and the touch of his hands
            wherever he passed along.
            You slimy bunkshooter, you put a smut on every human
            blossom in reach of your rotten breath belching
            about hell-fire and hiccupping about this Man who
            lived a clean life in Galilee.

            When are you going to quit making the carpenters build
            emergency hospitals for women and girls driven
            crazy with wrecked nerves from your gibberish about
            Jesus–I put it to you again: Where do you get that
            stuff; what do you know about Jesus?

            Go ahead and bust all the chairs you want to. Smash
            a whole wagon load of furniture at every performance.
            Turn sixty somersaults and stand on your
            nutty head. If it wasn’t for the way you scare the
            women and kids I’d feel sorry for you and pass the hat.
            I like to watch a good four-flusher work, but not when
            he starts people puking and calling for the doctors.
            I like a man that’s got nerve and can pull off a great
            original performance, but you–you’re only a bug-
            house peddler of second-hand gospel–you’re only
            shoving out a phoney imitation of the goods this
            Jesus wanted free as air and sunlight.

            You tell people living in shanties Jesus is going to fix it
            up all right with them by giving them mansions in
            the skies after they’re dead and the worms have
            eaten ’em.
            You tell $6 a week department store girls all they need
            is Jesus; you take a steel trust wop, dead without
            having lived, gray and shrunken at forty years of
            age, and you tell him to look at Jesus on the cross
            and he’ll be all right.
            You tell poor people they don’t need any more money
            on pay day and even if it’s fierce to be out of a job,
            Jesus’ll fix that up all right, all right–all they gotta
            do is take Jesus the way you say.
            I’m telling you Jesus wouldn’t stand for the stuff you’re
            handing out. Jesus played it different. The bankers
            and lawyers of Jerusalem got their sluggers and
            murderers to go after Jesus just because Jesus
            wouldn’t play their game. He didn’t sit in with
            the big thieves.

            I don’t want a lot of gab from a bunkshooter in my religion.
            I won’t take my religion from any man who never works
            except with his mouth and never cherishes any memory
            except the face of the woman on the American
            silver dollar.

            I ask you to come through and show me where you’re
            pouring out the blood of your life.

            I’ve been to this suburb of Jerusalem they call Golgotha,
            where they nailed Him, and I know if the story is
            straight it was real blood ran from His hands and
            the nail-holes, and it was real blood spurted in red
            drops where the spear of the Roman soldier rammed
            in between the ribs of this Jesus of Nazareth.

    • MrTusks

      And his wife looks like she is certified refurbished after being salvaged from a trailer park.

  • ariel_gee_398

    What’s this now? Dana Rohrabacher needs to set up a special meeting so he can pass on Assange’s lies right to Donnie, thus providing evidence to support Russia’s Shaggy defense to the DNC hack accusations?
    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/902642183056097280

  • Fuck these people in the least enjoyable way imaginable.

  • Daredevil
  • bupkus231

    “A group of 10 state attorney generals, plus the governor of Idaho…”

    How much you wanna bet every single one of them is from a red state and is facing re-election soon.

    I wish they were facing guillotines of votes.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I’m going off-script early to say thanks to everyone for the kind words regarding my sick kitteh this morning. They really meant a lot to me.

    The good news is that my old orange grump is back home after spending the day at the vet and seems to be much improved. The vet thinks his ill humor was due to arthritis in his haunches, perhaps exaggerated by a jumping or moving injury. He’s already had more of an appetite than he’s had in the last few days prior, and he’s being much more social, currently hanging out on the couch with me. He must have been a giant pill at the vet’s as several of the staff commented on his bad mood, and he’s got bandages and bruises on both front legs, I suspect from struggling while they were trying to take blood samples or giving him sedation meds. He might be an old guy, but he’s still plenty feisty.

    Glad he’s back with me, grumpy side-eye and all.

    Here are his paw bandages–weird that his arms are so much smaller when all that fur is gone. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4693b7c20e15d49e926bfd63b61e4d319682df6e1e0b0a560843f2e1a1d5107a.jpg

    • jesterpunk

      Glad your cat is ok, he does not look amused in that picture though.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        He is very expressive, particularly when conveying displeasure. He seems to be getting over it, though. He’s turned belly-up and snoozing. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aa9fe1791e6ec391c5e667541eac17b683c1c4b93200bb440caa3b63c5551a68.jpg

        • jesterpunk

          That looks like a trap, like he is waiting for you to rub his belly so he can attack.

          • puredog

            I learned at an early age that cat body language that seemed to say, “please, rub my belly” was not to be believed. Cost me some blood, though.

        • janecita

          Why do you have a shag rug, on top of your other rug?

      • Crystalclear12

        Someone must pay for the indignities endured!

    • Marion in Savannah

      Glad he’s better. He certainly looks like he has the courage of his convictions.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      Poor fella. I hope he’s back to his old self soon. (He does look like he could be a bit of a handful)

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        That he is. He’s terrified vets on two continents now.

    • I had a cat that bit my ankles everyday as a kitten. Grew up to be a pissy, grumpy old cat.

      I’m taking a cat break now, while I’m young. Can always get one when I’m grumpy and old

      • LucindathePook

        Be sure to get older kitteh then as well, so he will not outlive you. And older cats understands us oldz……

    • TJ Barke

      Probably from trying to get blood samples. Sedative is usually just given subcutaneously.

    • snigsy

      That side-eye is classic resting cat face. My kitties always look that way. Or maybe they’re just planning how to kill me once they figure out how to open tins.

    • shivaskeeper

      Did not it this morning, but I’m glad kitteh is doing better. That is the classic look of a cat plotting revenge on the stupid hairless apes who shaved his legs and stuck needles in him. I would tell the vet staff to be on alert for the next few days.

      • TJ Barke

        That’s what heavy leather gloves are for.

    • proudgrampa

      I’m grumpy too when my arthritic haunches act up…

      • Paul

        I hope you don’t shoot vicious side-eye like that to proudgramma when that happens.

        • proudgrampa

          Oh, no. I just whimper and she gets me a treat!

          • Paul

            Good boy!

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      So sorry, and glad he is feeling better. They can get grumpy, just like people. The vet had to give me tranquilizers for my elderly Senile Cat so that I could slip him a Mickey Finn prior to vet visits.nHe needs a lot of blood tests, and he’d get so upset he’d poop in his carrier and get it all over himself. Not pleasant for anyone.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        The things we do for our fur babies. Poor guy.

        • Paul

          Yeah. But the things they do for us.

          • Holly

            Said the man who claimed to hate kitties.

          • Paul

            I do Honey. I kick ’em and pull out their whiskers when you’re not here.
            They don’t really climb the trees, I throw them up there when they piss me off.

            I’ve told you this. Why don’t you believe me? I’m a bad ass biker. We only like big mean dogs.

          • Holly

            Of course you do darling.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      He is beautiful btw. Maine Coon?

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        His mama was a Himalayan (or Persian, I forget) who was I think supposed to be breeding stock, but her litter of four had two that looked like her, a short-hair tabby striped, and him. I think mamma might have gotten out and had a little fun with the neighborhood boys. The two mismatched kitties were then adopted by a friend of my sister’s, and when they realized they were allergic to cats, by me. Given the degrees of separation, I don’t really know the breeder or the full story, but I have one pic of the babies together.

        He knows he’s pretty handsome, though. Struts around with quite an attitude.

    • Paul

      That’s one cool looking cat. Appears to be a feisty mofo that NOBODY should mess with, ever. But I bet once you gain his trust he’s your best bud. Does he play well with others?

      Both Holly’s cats are rescues and though Gray acts more like a dog, Cameo was a one person cat. She didn’t trust anyone except Holly. Lord only knows what abuse that poor thing suffered before she had the great good fortune to adopted by Holly, the world’s kindest person and patron saint of critters everywhere. Not even her daughter or granddaughter, when they all lived together, could gain her trust. And like your fine kitty she’s full of piss and vinegar.

      Took several months but we hit it off. We’ve gone from hissing to purring belly scritches. She kept her distance and I didn’t approach her or even look at her.

      She watched me though. She saw how Gray got all the head rubs he wanted and was treated like the boss he is. Eventually she decided I wasn’t a complete asshole. Kinda like Holly’s friends back in Pittsburgh. :)

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        Aw, that’s so sweet. When a kitty, especially a challenging one, decides to let down their guard and trust you, it’s so rewarding.

        This guy has lived through several adopted newcomers (strays and cats needing relocation seem to find me), so he’s actually a pretty good big brother. He was a little brat when the first newcomer arrived, but he’s somewhat chill with the routine of welcoming new siblings these days.

        • Paul

          I stand corrected. Apparently there are co-patron saints of critters.

      • Holly

        I should clarify a couple of things about Paul folks. First, he claimed he never liked cats. Secondly, he didn’t want anything to do with cats. Thirdly, he fell in love with cats almost instantaneously and my little girl cat is entirely in love with Paul.

        And Paul? They never thought you were an asshole darling.

    • Holly

      What a handsome guy he is. Even with that evil side eye. I have an old gray dude that’s displaying signs of hip discomfort. It breaks the heart to know they are hurting. I wish both of you a speedy recovery,.

  • OrG

    Isn’t it attorneys general?

    • Parakeetist

      Pretty sure.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      If you’re going to split hairs, I’m going to piss off.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Didn’t see this. GMTA!

  • Joe Beese

    Like I didn’t have enough reason to hate those fuckers.

    https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/902649086561669120

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Does that 42 bucks come with Geek Squad protection?

    • jesterpunk

      Are they sorry the images got out?

      • TJ Barke

        Yup.

  • Daredevil
    • jesterpunk

      Ann Coulter thinks?

      • Reximus

        If paid enough

        • jesterpunk

          I am still not sure she thinks even then. She might parrot some bullshit talking points though.

      • TJ Barke

        “Thinks”

      • The Wanderer

        She displays some cognitive function. Sort of like an 8088 processor.

        • jesterpunk

          8088 processor Libelz. That is actually useful.

          • WeaselPoo

            8088 8-bit. Coulter is 2-bit.

          • RMKH

            Doubt she would even get that much.

          • WIDTAP
          • Msgr_MΩment

            TWO floppy drives! Luxury!

          • WIDTAP

            They go where the 8 inch floppy used to go, but somehow I think I strayed off-topic.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            Staying off topic for a moment: I discussed the differences between an 8 inch floppy and a 5 1/4 inch hard with a hot blonde once. We agreed that the 5 1/4 inch hard drive was superior.

          • WIDTAP

            Now, you would be lucky to get a thumb drive.

          • proudgrampa

            WHAT would she do with all that memory?

          • RMKH

            But no hard drive. Those things were good for a workout because you were always swapping floppies

          • jesterpunk

            I loved that system when I was younger, that was the first computer we had and the one I learned basic programming on at 3 years old.

          • OutOfOrbit

            i miss the dark background/lighted text so easy on eyes

          • jesterpunk

            I still use that text in every terminal I use, green text on a black background is better then any other text combination.

          • OutOfOrbit

            i also too liked amber

          • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

            Colon, backslash, shoot me, just fucking shoot me.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Intel 4004.

        • OutOfOrbit

          do you have my syntax error there?

      • You can lead Ann Coulter to an All-You-Can-Eat-Oats-And-Hay-Buffet, but…

        • TJ Barke

          Horse libel.

        • Msgr_MΩment

          NO. Dorothy Parker herself said, ‘you can lead Ann Coulter to culture….’

        • Bub, the cynical zombie

          Sometimes a bellyful of oats can lead to a bout of colic. Then, it’s enema time!

      • mancityRed6

        *stinks

      • hendenburg2

        Assumes brain not in evidence

    • Panika MCD

      so why did Harvey wait to arrive until 1 year into Sly Turner’s first term? why didn’t it happen while Annise Parker was still in office?

      • mancityRed6

        there you go again, trying to bring logic to a Coulter tweet.

      • NellCote71

        Well, Turner is black, so duh. One way or the other, Houston should have elected a straight, white male or face the snark of Ms? Ann Adam’s Apple.

    • RobKanC

      Being the classless bitch, as usual..

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        Playing to her strengths…

    • Lizzietish81

      I’M STILL RELEVANT! PLEASE DON’T LET ME BE IGNORED!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgSBhlw-o9E

      • OutOfOrbit

        who’s ignoring you?

    • Parakeetist

      She is a horrible person.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      Oh Ann…you’re just so damned bitter without your sugar cubes. Or do you need the farrier to come over and renail your Manolo Blahniks?

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      One of Tina Fey’s best lines “And Ann Coulter crawled out of her roach motel…”

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Ann, isn’t it about time for your annual neck tanning and curing? And your head pedicure, also too?

    • Zippy W Pinhead
  • The Wanderer

    I was in a fairly good mood today, on Day Two of my vacation. Almost finished packing for a trip (things like my Horse Head Mask and Killer Rabbit hand puppet), all the yard work’s done and I’ve been constantly updating myself on the weather.
    And Wonkette gives me this for the open thread, and I’ve gone all stabby again.

    • OutOfOrbit

      switch to pron & fap!

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      What?!? You didn’t pack your Hamster Head?! Do you have a Hamster Head?

      I never go on a trip without my Hamster Head. You never know when you may need to wear a Hamster Head!

      • The Wanderer

        No, sadly, I have no Hamster Head. I consider it a moral failure on my part. But the horse mask, with certain accoutrements, is part of my Darth Continent costume.

  • Daredevil
    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Donnie can’t do the most simplest things without looking like a douchebag.

      • Skwerl the Nazi Puncher

        Because he is one?

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Could it be that Donnie is a, {{{clears throat}}} douchebag?

          Ommmiegawwd, where’s my fainting couch!!!!!????1111

  • Everrett Fanuelli
    • Seamus Romney

      I was told there would never be a Kardashian at Wonkette.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Ew.

    • Shanzgood

      Um…

    • BosGrl

      I’m afraid to open Twitter…

  • btwbfdimho
  • La forza del resistino

    Trump would prefer immigration be treated like joining a country club. You’ll need a sponsor and $$$. Oh, wait, we already have the E5B visa program, just ask for Jared.

    • jesterpunk

      He uses them for his properties too, no US citizens apply by fax when the fax machine is disconnected and placed in the basement down the broken stares in the room with a leopard in it.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    I’d say “this did not really happen” if I had been in a coma for the past few months:

    https://twitter.com/KailiJoy/status/902607936350019584

  • Joe Beese
  • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

    A group of 10 state attorney generals{{{BLAM!}}}

    Ahem, “attorneys general”, FIFY.

    If already pointed out, then well, carry on!

    • altleftjohn

      Are we Johnies come lately or Johny come latelies?

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        yes

      • LucindathePook

        New kids in town, everybody loves us.. .

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      We might need some attorney generals to reign in the rule of Donald the Terrible if things keep up like they’ve been going.

    • BosGrl

      I’m one of those too that hates “attorney generals”. I think we are a dying breed.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      A lot of passersby will approve this post.

      • CindyinEncinitas

        Passerby Number One will, Passerby Number Threes through Twelfths won’t, though.

  • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista
    • janecita

      Even her name was lovely:-)

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        She was one of those white cats with one green eye and one blue. I had just gotten her, as a wee kitten ,when I flew to CA. I sat next to an old woman, named Annabelle, with one green eye and one blue. The universe was more orderly in the orbit of that cat.

    • Joe Beese

      She’s sleeping on God’s bed now.

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        Hope he has one of those sheets of masking tape on a roll thingies, the hair on that girl, I’m telling you, was epic.

  • Anna Rompage

    These frigging folks are nothing but a bunch of ruthless iceholes….

  • Joe Beese

    Is Taylor Swift going to be OK?

    I worry about her.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      She can lay in a pile of her money, and sob.

      • TJ Barke

        At the section of public beach she walled off.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Well, you don’t want her mixing with common slobs, do you? You’re not a monster for god’s sake!

          • TJ Barke

            I do like canned clams.

      • Joe Beese

        But can $280 million make up for a lonely heart?

        • Dutchman

          Yes

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          It can buy a lot of booze and companions. :-)

        • The Wanderer

          Opus: “Sir! Money can not buy love.”
          Milo: “But it improves your bargaining position. Here’s twenty bucks.”

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Who?

      • Joe Beese

        Talented young lady. Plays guitar and sings.

        • TJ Barke

          Easy on the eyes, also, too.

        • TundraGrifter

          And writes her own material.

      • janecita

        Terrible, pretentious singer.

    • Bill D. Burger
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Heading out the door for now on this HA! note:

    https://twitter.com/TheDemocratCafe/status/902645951961161728

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Did brown instead of yellow, or vice versa.

      • WIDTAP

        Last train to Cleveland?

        • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

          You’re both terrible people and I applaud you.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    I read an article this morning about how the cost of framing a house has doubled since last year. Guess why! Because dipshit has deported so many people, that there’s nobody left to do the framing. One builder said “it’s only going to get worse after he only lets people in who speak English. Who do you think frames houses? Guys who don’t speak English.” Then they were speculating about the cost after Trump starts putting tariffs on all the goods that go into a house. Republicans never think of the consequences of any of their stupidity – they do this illegal immigrant shit to get their dumb base to vote for more tax cuts on the rich, so the whole country gets to pay more for a house. I can’t WAIT until they outlaw abortion, and the middle class gets to foot the bill for all that beautiful life. It’s not like any of us are already having trouble paying for health care, education, housing, etc…

    • jesterpunk
      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Damned Washington Post, and their paywall! I did see the headline of the article though. Georgia tried something similar a few years ago, and ended up with a lot of rotting crops that nobody wanted to pick. All these mythical American crop pickers and house framers don’t seem to actually exist.

        • jesterpunk

          Here is the article

          Kim and Renee Byrd had wanted to see Donald Trump’s speech in Mobile, but there were vegetables to sell. The Byrds are third-generation farmers, and the traffic along Route 90, toward the Gulf of Mexico, brings in travelers who want fresh honey, fresh peaches, fresh okra. Driving 45 minutes to Mobile was asking a little much, even if the next president of the United States was calling.

          “He runs an empire,” Renee Byrd, 44, said of Trump. “That’s what the country needs, someone who runs an empire.”

          The Byrds say they think the nation needs someone who is realistic about immigration, too. Officially, less than 10 percent of Robertsdale residents are Hispanic. According to Kim Byrd, 45, that does not account for the trailer parks “saturated with Mexicans” or for “all the convenience stores” bought by immigrants with mysterious tax breaks.

          “They all work under the table and make [loads] of money,” said Renee Byrd. “The poor white people who work around here are all screwed.”

          30

          A mile down the road, a lunchtime crowd was arriving at a Mexican restaurant called El Rodeo. The Latino wait staff took orders in English and Spanish from customers who would not care to see Trump even if he were speaking in their living rooms.

          Play Video 1:20

          Trump: ‘I’d like to have the election tomorrow’

          Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump talked about his success in the polls to a crowd of more than 35,000 people on Friday during a “pep rally” held at the Ladd-Peebles Stadium in Mobile, Ala. (AP)

          “He’s no good,” carpenter Miguel Chabac, 27, said through an interpreter. “I think he’s a person who doesn’t value our work.”

          Chabac and his friends had plenty of experience with people like that. Alabama, which hosted the largest rally of Trump’s presidential campaign Friday night, had been a test kitchen for Trump-style crackdowns on undocumented workers — and it had not gone well.

          In 2011, a new Republican legislature and governor enacted HB 56, the Alabama Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act. Chief sponsor Micky Hammon warned the undocumented population that he would “make it difficult for them to live here, so they will deport themselves.” Renting a house or giving a job to an “illegal” became a crime. Police were empowered to demand proof of citizenship from anyone who looked as if he or she might lack it. School administrators were instructed to do the same to children.

          29

          The backlash was massive — a legal assault that chipped away at the law, and a political campaign that made Republicans own its consequences. Business groups blamed the tough measures for scaring away capital and for an exodus of workers that hurt the state’s agriculture industry. After Mitt Romney lost the 2012 presidential election, strategists in his own party blamed his support for the Alabama attrition policy. Those critics included Donald Trump.

          “He had a crazy policy of self-

          deportation, which was maniacal,” Trump told reporter Ronald Kessler after the election. “It sounded as bad as it was.”

          Asked about the law, Alabama voters rarely say that it worked. Large farms spent millions training new workers. The Byrds conceded that the agriculture sector suffered after some immigrants fled the state. “Most of them left and didn’t come back,” said Terry Darring-Rogers, who works at a Mobile law firm specializing in immigration.

          The debate seemed to be over — nice try, lesson learned — until the summer of Trump. He’s run as a standard-bearer for tough, clinical immigration reform that includes mass deportation. Trump has also kick-started a debate about “birthright citizenship,” which is granted to any child born in the United States under the 14th Amendment.

          Play Video 1:19

          Donald Trump’s immigration plan, explained

          Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump released a detailed immigration plan, and its “great, great wall” is just the beginning. (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

          “We could tell him a hundred of the things that went wrong in Alabama, and he wouldn’t listen,” said Frank Barragan, Mobile’s regional organizer in the Alabama Coalition for Immigrant Justice. “But our biggest concern is not really Donald Trump. Our concern is that the other candidates are jumping on that bandwagon.”

          By speaking so plainly, Trump ushered in a new discussion about who deserved to be in the country, no matter who might be offended by “politically incorrect” talk. Supporters of Alabama’s reforms, after years of retreat and apology, welcome the opportunity to defend themselves. They can challenge, at last, the conventional wisdom that the bill did not work.

          “Our bill got eviscerated by the federal government,” said Jim ­Carns, a Republican state representative who came to Mobile to endorse Trump. “It was like 95 percent within the federal standards, but those standards weren’t being enforced. We enforced them, and it worked for several months until the feds did their thing.”

          The voters and legislators who rallied Friday argued that the theory of HB 56 — ending any incentives for people to work illegally in the United States — remained sound. Secretary of State Jim Merrill, who attended Trump’s event but endorsed no candidate, said that Alabamans were welcoming to foreign workers but wanted them to get real visas and work through the citizenship process.

          “Illegals have stepped up and they’ve said, ‘We’ll do that work,’ ” Merrill said. “But some of those jobs used to be performed by people in the lower economic strata of our communities. We want to make sure that every American who wants to work has a job.”

          To Republicans, the lesson of HB 56 was no longer that it failed. The lesson was that it had not been permitted to work, stymied by the Obama administration. That theory took shape in the displays in some Robertsdale stores, where a sign declaring compliance with ­E-Verify was posted above an even larger ad from the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department.

          “If you have the right to work, don’t let anyone take it away,” read the ad. “No employer can deny you a job or fire you because of your national origin or citizenship status.”

          Trump’s fans were letting themselves imagine what Alabama might have looked like had then-Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. not declared war on HB 56 — and what the whole country might look like if a president took the law nationally. They saw, in the ­tycoon-candidate, someone who would not be bowed by complaints from the business community.

          “We’re seeing an invasion, which is exactly what the Chamber of Commerce wants,” said Dean Young, a conservative activist and HB 56 supporter who nearly won a 2012 special election for southern Alabama’s seat in Congress. “I’m told by a lot of the business people that actually live here that HB 56 did help. I trust them, because if we don’t stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country, we’re going to lose it.”

          Still, even the people who wanted to take Alabama’s immigration experiment to the national level had some qualms about the implementation. After the rally, retirees Philip and Roberta Payne debated how much of HB 56 needed to change in order to become federal policy.

          “They need to do it gradually,” said Roberta Payne, 75. “I’ve heard someone say, get rid of the bad ones — the ones that are killing, maiming, robbing, stealing. You make it slow and easy. You’ve got to find out who the people are and how long they’ve been there. You can’t just send the people back.”

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          Her husband, 71, sounded convinced, but he brought the issue back to its core. “How much do we spend on illegals in this country?” he asked. “It’s billions of dollars.”

          Trump, who did not specifically discuss the Alabama law in his speech, took credit for at least focusing the debate on the cost of immigration. He took credit for forcing his rivals to discuss “birthright citizenship” and to go on record that it was a problem when undocumented workers crossed the border to have children.

          “You know, he put out a memo, you cannot use ‘anchor baby,’ ” said Trump, referring to former Florida governor Jeb Bush. “Now that I’m using it, he’s using it! Politicians.”

          Across southern Alabama, even as people debated how far immigration law should go, many conservatives vehemently agreed with Trump.

          “You shouldn’t be able to come here,” said Kim Byrd, “if you just want to have a damn baby.”

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            That’s what I love about Republicans – they never admit their ideas are horrible, they just say that either the evil Democrats kept them from implementing the ideas properly, or they just weren’t given enough time.

          • jesterpunk

            It works for their idiot base too.

        • Open in incognito mode & you should be able to bypass the paywall. Note, though, that if you have Amazon Prime, you can get six months of WaPo free, IIRC. And compared to, say, the New York Times, they deserve the subscriptions.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Thanks for the tip!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      In places like Reno, where I live and where we have a 1.3% vacancy rate (normal vacancy rate should be around 4%) you can’t get anything built because there isn’t an available labor pool to build it. They’re bringing guys in to get the work done, and even then projects are languishing due to lack of manpower.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        In my area (South Carolina) it’s also difficult to find any contractors.

    • btwbfdimho

      Thanks for your comment! I said exactly that in class today: there are no more illegal construction workers in TX, so expect house prices up.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        It was in my local paper, but it was quoting builders all over, so I’m guessing it was probably an AP or Reuters article. I had to laugh when I read it, these stupid idiots always try to financially engineer stuff, and it always blows up in their faces.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Sometimes unintended consequences just plain don’t make it into their spreadsheets.

    • One of the things I’ve noted is that all those farmers who went overwhelmingly for Trump are now whining about a lack of labor to harvest their crops or tend their livestock. Apparently “Real Americans” won’t do it.

      • TundraGrifter

        George Lopez said – “If an immigrant took your job, you had a pretty shitty job.”

      • Sophia

        Farmers are going to be majorly screwed when he manages to kill NAFTA also too.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Those Archer Daniels Midland commercials during golf tournaments don’t pay for themselves, you know!

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Georgia passed a very strict law against immigrants years ago, and then all of their crops ended up rotting in the fields, since they didn’t have anyone to harvest the crops. I think they quietly overturned that law. They truly don’t think anything through.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      I’ve been saying this for years. Who the fuck do Republicans think does all the hard work in this country?

  • Joe Beese

    (AP) Former President Bill Clinton absconding with an unidentified African-American child during relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eb30e42b1239612e9c68e06e1aeec80a3435efa488d757ab322430d0ea8f919e.png

  • Daredevil
    • Joe Beese

      Sadly, the brand tarnishing he earned with this episode will never happen. Suckers want to be suckered.

  • memzilla Ω

    Well, ICE and DoJ just want to prove how much threy’re not like Nazis, because the one thing Nazis were really good at was KEEPING RECORDS OF EVERYTHING.

  • Paperless Tiger

    ICE is the Donald’s stormtrooper startup. Note that he wants to require local police departments to support ICE, and he wants military armaments for the police. This is your police state in the making.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Daddy, can I design the storm trooper uniforms? I’m thinking white body armor and guns that shoot bolts of light! It’s a totally original idea.”
      — Ivanka

      • MynameisBlarney

        As long as their aim is as bad, I’m ok with it.

        • The Wanderer

          It used to be called “spray and pray.”

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          The concept of a “three round group” sails clear over their heads like anything else does.

    • Daredevil

      They say “illegal aliens” will cost the taxpayers money, but I wonder how much it’s costing ICE to hunt down and detain people who are trying to make a living.

  • CindyinEncinitas

    This did not look this good to my eye but I’m glad I pulled over and took it anyway. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1a5b5645222060eaf4f2655b5f258e5a668f70817cecd948babcfeb2872dd728.jpg

  • NickNackPattyWack

    A day in the life of the average gay man:

    8:30 a.m. – wake up with come dripping out of ass
    8:45 a.m. – make a “fabulous” breakfast of granola and avocado, with side of HIV drugs
    9:00 a.m. – head to the truck stop on the way to work, take a pounding in the restroom
    9:15 a.m. – go into office, spend day interior decorating the office and gossiping
    5:00 p.m. – leave office, drive to bath house
    5:15 p.m. – suck a massive cock at bath house, choke on come
    5:30 p.m. – eat fair trade seitan burgers at diner, get pounded in the restroom
    6:00 p.m. – get high on crystal meth, go to orgy
    6:30 p.m. – get anally penetrated by 100 men, use cream to stop the bleeding
    4:00 a.m. – leave club, go home to sleep

    • The Wanderer
      • bupkus231

        TLM? Never mind – yeah, TLM…

    • jesterpunk
    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Day in the life of worthless subhuman piece of shit troll:

      Posts some stupid shit. Gets blocked and banned. Continues to be worthless subhuman piece of shit.

    • FauxAntocles

      TLM? Is that you?

    • Granny Sprinkles

      I think the commonly used spelling is “cum”. Not to brag or anything, but I’m kind of an expert dirty talker.

      • OutOfOrbit

        projecting what it’s always wanted to do but is intollerable on all levels

    • MynameisBlarney

      We really don’t care how you spend your days, TLM.

    • Shanzgood

      You’ve already used this one. Get some fresh material.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Blocked. Take your illness elsewhere. It’s clear that you and your lurid fantasy life are the problem. You’re the modern day equivalent of the obscene phone caller.

      • Joe Beese

        Do they have obscene phone callers any more?

        It occurred to me the other day that you never hear about raincoat flashers in the park any more.

        • BosGrl

          I think Caller ID put the kibosh on obscene phone calls. Now it’s crazed trolls.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        It’s not even original or marginally entertaining at this point

        blocked and reported

      • C4TWOMAN

        Curious. What do you flag when you report? I went with “spam”, but this lad really defies categorization….

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          Didn’t flag- figured somebody did. TLM is like whack a mole. He just invents another screen name. I used to think he was kind of funny, but no patience any more, especially with what’s been going on lately.
          If Giant Meteor was hitting the earth, TLM would still be posting with his crap.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef
    • Msgr_MΩment

      WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH LORI, YOU SICK FUCK?!11!!1

    • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • CindyinEncinitas

      TLM!!!! HONEY!!! HOW HAVE YOU BEEN???? Did you run out of brandy again???

    • Jennifer R

      Sounds you had a pretty fun weekend.

    • BosGrl

      Is it 1992?

      • CindyinEncinitas

        ♫Jim Dandy to the rescue!!♫

    • Panika MCD

      nobody asked for the details of your day or ever referred to you as “average”. now go help the people at your church, Pastor Joel. I’m sure plenty of them will give you a pounding, just not of the butt sex variety.

      • The Wanderer

        He’ll just go to church and fondle some kids.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      You’re just jealous because no one cares about the day in the life of the average troll asshole

    • TundraGrifter

      Somebody forgot to start his comment with “Dear Diary:”

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Are you trying to make a love connection? There has to be somebody on here who would want to be with you on your birthday, as you described above, although anal penetration by over 100 men in one night may be a little ambitious for working folk.

    • MynameisBlarney

      HIV drugs and truck stop glory holes are no way to go through life son.

    • Kiri the Unicorn

      Forget it, buster. You broke my heart once; you don’t get a second chance.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      If you really, really, really wanted to shock us, you would comment about, say, taxidermy, or perhaps horticulture.

      Instead, just the same old boring, banal, vapid, dreck. You are almost as uncreative as our presidunce.

    • Seamus Romney

      People still think you’re a short little creep, and despite what you do on Trump’s behalf on the internet, you’ll never get to suck his little cock.

      Give up the dream.

    • SomeBigRedDog

      You should really get more than 4 hours sleep a night.

    • SomeBigRedDog

      100 men in 7.5 hours? If we add in two 15 minute breaks that comes out to 4.2 minutes per “penetration”. Does that seem reasonable?

  • Bill D. Burger

    Oh God! ___ Oh God!

    [During his visit to Texas in response to Hurricane Harvey, President Trump told a crowd gathered outside a Corpus Christi firehouse, “What a crowd. Wow. What a crowd. What a turnout,” according to media reports.

    “Nobody has seen something like this,” Trump said, flanked by First Lady Melania Trump, and Gov. Greg Abbott. “We won’t say congratulations. We don’t want to do that. We’ll congratulate each other when it’s all finished.”]

    http://karrierebibel.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Vorstellungsgespr%C3%A4ch-Tabu.gif

    • Rick Hill

      “We won’t say congratulations.”

      Guess he’s too smert to say “Helluva job ……”

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    Totally of topic but after an anxious start I seem to get a hold on the study and be able to finish it by monday and seem to fully grasp the level needed to finish the exam. Damn, I was not prepared that it would be this hard but I seem to be prepared.

  • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

    Long-term data storage is far cheaper and easier than it’s ever been. Why do they need to change the rules?

    • GreenGoldSharpie

      To hie the murder and civil rights violations regarding people they consider subhuman.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        That’s still a lot of work. If anything those clowns will forget about shredding all those miscellaneous files that they don’t think are important. But I guess their cold shriveled hearts are in doing the work.

        Real talk, I work in the student records office for a grad school, and actually going through the process of deciding what to shred and when to shred it is a pain. Yeah, I like making room with a good shred-a-thon, but I do not look forward to sifting through that crap. And after I shred something, someone will inevitably ask me if I’ve seen that document (that happened with a somebody’s diploma that the Registrar up and decided to confer after-the-fact.)

  • Daredevil

    He’s such a profound guy, isn’t he? One of the most powerful thinkers of this age. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/650f1aeb8692c10d56c924e7d727d48b922f2a263dd155d4235bed50197a79ad.jpg

    • Bill D. Burger

      A legend in his own mind!

      Melania: ~thinking~ “I hope I didn’t splash water on my new Manolos.”

    • Michael R

      Fuckface Von Clownstick sounds like someone
      who would be fun at parties , but ….

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Even his “deep thoughts” are half-baked Tweets.

    • Panika MCD

      it’s like he’s never paid attention to a major storm in his life.

      • Joe Beese

        Earlier he talked about having had to deal with water damage to the buildings he owned.

        Yeah.

        • Panika MCD

          I saw.

        • WeaselPoo

          Its like a holocaust for carpets and parquet flooring plus 911!!!

      • Beanz&Berryz

        You would think Sandy would have made some impression on him…

        • Panika MCD

          women are intimidating–especially if you can’t grab them by the pussy. but he did make sure to grab some relief funds for himself. (thank goodness he’s not allowed to operate anything in TX.)

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Even the ones who let you can be….

    • Reximus

      Harvey JUNIOR..ya that would be a power name

      • Bill D. Burger

        Or ERIC. ___ No…no…that would be a stupid name. Or dumb….dumb like they say.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Helluva storm, folks.

      • Reximus

        The greatest

    • TundraGrifter

      Why are the name cards turned so the only person who can read the name is the person sitting in the chair directly in front of the card? Except for the President.

      Good think the First Lady wore her nifty cap. Otherwise, people might not recognize her.

      • Joe Beese

        “Who’s that dead-eyed woman with the industrial-strength Botox sitting next to Trump?”

        “A minder from the Kremlin? She looks Eastern European.”

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      And that stupid fucking hat. He looks like one of the Mario Brothers.

      • Daredevil
      • Beanz&Berryz

        In-fucking-doors, at a fucking meeting… Fucking moran. Or, it’s all just product placement.

        • Me not sure

          $40.00 a pop.

          • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

            He really can’t pass up a grifting opportunity. I’m surprised he’s not modeling a MAGA golf shirt also.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Nah, he just looks like the average crazy, racist conspiracy-believing uncle, who spends way too much time harassing the wait staff at Denny’s.

      • vivian

        It’s so he can remember what country he’s president of.

    • Bananas Foster

      The Kennedys don’t fucking think so.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Looks like someone turned Melania on “hibernate”

  • Jennifer R
    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      When you arm everyone, eventually someone who shoots at you is a customer.

      • jesterpunk

        “The solution is just more guns”

        –Wayne LaPierre (NRA)

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          “The solution is to get every faction of a country in a permanent shooting war with every other faction. Endless marketing opportunities. AntiFa has real potential!”

  • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

    That little pointy finger icon that the cursor changes into when there’s a clicky thing to click on, any way to change that to a middle finger pointing? It would be so much more entertaining.

  • spangled

    i have to tell y’all about my “In Honor of” donation to Planned Parenthood.

    After the election, I started giving to PP in honor of a truly heinous state senator from my state. Was going to do Pence, but figured he would never see the form letter. And this state senator guy keeps trying to defund PP and pass a “heartbeat bill” in my state. He is THE WORST.

    I’ve never met this man or communicated with him in any way. I’m not even in his district, just his state. Somehow he found my address (maybe it was in the form letter from PP he got?) and mailed me this- https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42300d1058cdff56b7f365f1573cf11ee0324a2d5ea86e681c9a73cd675c91c1.jpg

    • Jennifer R

      Did you get a letter on official letterhead?

      • spangled

        Nope, just those 2 picture stuffed in an envelope from his office.

        • Ellie

          I send PP a donation every month or so, in “honor” of some RWNJ or other – including Pence. I’ve never received anything from any of the honorees, although PP has told me a couple of times that they have notified the honoree of the donation.

        • Jennifer R

          His government paid for office?
          Cool he used his constituents money for personal use. Pennies I know, but go make a stink about how much a cheap lazy sack of subhuman shit this motherfucker is stealing tax money to fuel personal vendettas.

          • spangled

            Yep, his office must have paid for that stamp. And I’m not even his constituent!

    • Bill D. Burger
    • Shanzgood

      Send him back the one of Gerri Santoro’s dead body on the hotel bedroom floor after her pre RvW self-induced abortion. I won’t post it here because it’s too gruesome.

    • gene108

      I agree that crushing a nearly fully formed fetus with forceps is a horror.

      But that is not how abortions are done, asshole.

      Edit: Also, too babies are cute and adorable? I would never have figured that out without the picture and your note, because I am a liberal.

      • Shanzgood

        If they have to do that, the fetus is given an injection to stop its heart.

        • gene108

          And it is not done unless there’s a really good reason, like mommy might die.

      • natoslug

        Babies are small screaming sacs of poop and vomit that fire off indiscriminately.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Mail him back a coat hanger and just say, “You figure it out.”

    • Raan

      Guys, if you have a few extra bucks after supporting Wonkette Toddler Grown Woman et. al., maybe send some PP’s way in honor of this shitbag, just to see how long it takes him to give up.

    • bupkus231

      What a ducking know-nothing asshole. That second image has nothing to do with almost all abortions in this country – it’s just anti-choice pornography.

      Of the most perverted kind…..

    • La forza del resistino

      Send him a box of PP condoms. Preferably the pink ones and say all the ladies like these.

    • MrTusks

      Toomey wrote me back when I told him to kill the Senate healthcare bill. His office wrote me back defending the BCRA, weeks after it and the skinny repeal failed. One front-and-back page of pure cashfucking bullshit.

  • Jennifer R
  • Reximus

    Prety druink now

    • gene108

      I miss booze.

    • Bill D. Burger
    • Joe Beese

      Dead from the shoulders up with a head cold, so pretty much the same.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      No, you can still reach the keyboard.

    • Anna Rompage

      Close one eye….

    • OrG

      Hope you’re not driving.

  • gene108

    Face it we are in a battle for the soul of America.

    Do we want to be an inclusive society, where everyone gets a chance and people, who have been here and are law abiding can make restitution to the government and get legal status?

    Or do we want be a society, where certain ethnic groups dominate everyone else, and we close off from the rest of the world?

    Republicans want to follow the second option.

    The rest of us want the first option.

    • GreenGoldSharpie

      It’s not even tied to ethnic groups, but that’s part of the odd, twisted identity they’ve formed for themselves. More and more it’s about who they’re not, not who they are or what they, personally, have accomplished.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Or who they “think” they are.

    • The Wanderer

      I read an article about a Holocaust survivor from Romania, who now lives here. He saw a Charlottesville Nazi sporting an Iron Guard t-shirt and immediately recognized it. He could not believe that what happened 75 years ago was happening again.

      • gene108

        This is why no quarter should be given to the Nazi assholes. They need to crawl back under the rocks they crawled out of. This is why the Charlottesville counter protest is important.

        This is why the Boston counter protest is important.

        They need to understand they are hated and despised, by damn near everyone, even if our disgusting President thinks they are kind of cool.

    • Bananas Foster

      Except for those people who think that those two options are exactly the same and we must feel the Bern and…

      I don’t know what they want.

  • Daredevil
    • gallbladder

      He truly has nothing better to do.

  • Joe Beese

    So which Trump toady is in charge of making sure his sign has the biggest font?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d1d2b2145606118ddc36b9be2a730c88874fe1ec037fe7c6c49b3837e3a65ff.png

    • Bill D. Burger
      • gallbladder

        Bubbles gone horribly, HORRIBLY wrong.

      • MynameisBlarney

        FUCKIN HELL MAN!

        Trigger warnin’ next time!

        GAH!

      • Raan

        Aaand there go my nipples again.

        • OutOfOrbit

          pix or GTFO

      • Doug Langley

        I’M EATING!!!!!

    • MynameisBlarney

      LOL

      When a slack-jawed moran like Abbot looks at you like you’re A Idiot…

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      So when will Trump officially change his name to “THE PRESIDENT?”

      • Joe Beese

        He wants to make it a trademark of Trump Inc.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Abbott: “If I touch the hem of His garment, maybe I’ll be able to walk again.”

      Sorry Greg. Donald’s only miracle was once he touched a blind man and made him lame.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Repulsive meets loathsome.

    • georgiaburning

      He’s got the dictator casual look down except for the two-sizes too big. I suppose it helps hide the Depends

  • Joe Beese

    Well that’s just great! Game over, man!

    https://twitter.com/mizzousundevil/status/902656615136026628

  • jesterpunk

    Because the people who lost their homes and everything they have can all wait and hope they can rebuild eventually? Also dont use any of that money to prevent future hurricane damage or anything like that because its a waste of money for republicans.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/29/hurricane-harvey-republicans-relief-aid-packages-242136

    Congressional Republicans may send Hurricane Harvey aid in multiple installments rather than one large lump sum as Congress did in response to Hurricane Sandy. And it could take months for Congress to deliver, according to Republican lawmakers.

    As the storm continues to ravage the Texas coast, talks are underway in Congress on delivering money to help Houston and other areas around the Gulf Coast recover from the devastating storm. But Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri, a member of GOP leadership and a top appropriator, said it may make more sense to deliver the money as needed, rather than in a catch-all bill like the $50 billion Sandy measure.

    Blunt cited Congress’ handling of the tornado that struck Joplin, Missouri, in 2011 as a far preferable solution than the approach to Sandy, which included millions for other disasters and money aimed at mitigating future damage that many Republicans viewed as wasteful. Blunt was among the 36 Senate Republicans that opposed the Sandy bill, including both Texas GOP senators, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz. A majority of House Republicans also opposed the bill.

    “My view has always been that multiple bills are fine, but you’re better off to pass multiple bills knowing what the costs are [rather] than some number that no one can really justify. Years later, we are still trying to figure out how to spend all this Sandy money,” Blunt told reporters in the Capitol Tuesday. “With the Joplin tornado, I think we had four different bills over a period of time as we knew what the costs were. That would be my preference.” Of course, the recovery needed for Joplin was significantly dwarfed by the relief required for the East Coast.

    It will take weeks for officials to tally the damage from Harvey. And it could take longer still for Congress to consider a disaster relief bill, Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), another top appropriator, said in a phone interview.

    Republicans said they were confident they had enough money in federal coffers to respond to the storm in the near future. As of Tuesday afternoon, the Federal Emergency Management Agency had $2.8 billion in the Disaster Relief Fund, with $1.3 billion of that able to be used for major disasters like Hurricane Harvey and another $1.5 billion earmarked for things like fire mitigation grants.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Uh-huh. Are they assuming that we’re out of wildland fire danger here in the west? (Hint: WE’RE NOT!)

      • jesterpunk

        That and hurricane season just started.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        The high pressure system that’s keeping Harvey over Texas is creating record heat here in California. While yes, we did get a lot of rain last winter, what that did was create a lot of fuel.

    • Rick Hill

      How about accountability for the Iraq war?
      “Oh, well, sorry, my mic is cutting out, can’t hear you. maybe we’ll get to that on another day…”

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Charles Pierce on the idiots who are going to have to handle cleaning up Harvey, by passing a budget:
    “This is what you got elected to handle. Some of this stuff—the debt ceiling, the budget—are the everyday responsibilities of every Congress and, because we all live on planet Earth, where unanticipated weather events are fairly common among the natives, that’s part of why you got elected, too. God, they’re a mess, in the House especially.Half their caucus is made up of jumped-up county commissioners, gibbering Bible-banging fanatics, and jamokes gobbling Alex Jones brain pills with both hands. Ryan can’t control them any more than Boehner could. It is unseemly for a Speaker to work with a whip and a chair.

    Unfortunately for Ryan, and for the rest of us, this cry of loons scares the half-sane portion of his caucus to death, so it wields an unusual amount of power for a collection of crazy people.”

    • jesterpunk

      They also now want to hand out the money in stages and start voting on it sometime next year because they will be too busy in September.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Because they spent 6 months fiddle-farting around with a toxic health care bill no one liked and no one had the guts to kill off.

        • jesterpunk

          Well that and if they wait long enough everyone will forget about it thanks to the next dumbass thing Trump does and thanks to the papers like the NYT’s saying how great he handled this by twitting he can get credit for it.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Apparently Cruz and Cornyn didn’t have any comment today on whether Texas should get money to clean up. Hmmm…wonder why?

    • The Wanderer

      Not a whip and a chair. A cattle prod and a long, pointed stick.

      • Doug Langley

        “What about pointed sticks?”
        “SHADDUP.”

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Some of the best writing he’s done.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        “Gibbering, Bible banging fanatics” is an instant classic.

    • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

      In this GOP Congress, the whips and chairs are also crazy.

  • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

    Many of our regulatory agencies are currently experiencing a data and document purge. The 45 administration is also laying off people with an institutional memory. Universities in the US and abroad are storing records and data in the hopes that, should America survive this moral meltdown, databases and institutions can be restored and reconstituted. It will take years, however, to take all the disparate pieces of information and stitch them back together again.

    Hopefully someone inside is already backing up these records.

    It’s come to this: the New Cruelty, the New Ignorance, the New Great Forgetting. America is in the process of receiving a massive head wound that will prove devastating if not fatal.

    • gene108

      Yeah, but when China becomes the new superpower, and we are relegated to second class status, why would we need to remember stuff? China leads and we follow or just sit isolated and alone, with a lot of nukes.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        We’re the new North Korea!

        • Ωbjectifier

          They have a more mature, grounded leader.

          • Permit-holder Ron

            With better hair.

    • TundraGrifter

      “Documents and records.” Also known as “evidence.”

      • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

        AKA “facts” “knowledge” “collective wisdom”.

        It’s like burning a library, only a bit less obvious.

        • TJ Barke

          “Collective anything is satan”
          -Birchers.

    • bupkus231

      I would the “New Great Forgetting” to be aimed at the Rump administration, the GOP Congress, and all the basket of deplorables that support these assholes. I would prefer that “Forgetting” was like the TV euphemism used by syndicated “The Sopranos” episodes….

    • georgiaburning

      I’m hoping that as much information and as many skilled people as possible are placed in other countries. No snark.

      • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

        Yeah – it’s something I think about often, This deliberate undermining of our institutions is one of those things that causes my heart to break a little bit every day.

        It’s a self-indicted, catastrophic wound. The insanity of it is driving me insane.

        • Augustus

          the cuts to services hurts so many people so much, and yields our bastard overlords only very marginal gains

          $25,000 for 1000 working families of four would be a huge quality of life improvement for 4000 people

          the same $25,000,000 for fucking Steve Mnuchin is virtually meaningless

          not to mention the loss of invaluable things like an engaged and educated populace that perhaps is as worthy a goal as tax cuts for the super rich, it’s kind of a two-fer, you get to cut spending and taxes, and have more dumb people that keep voting for you

        • georgiaburning

          Fascism in Europe resulted in many great scientists emigrating here in the 1930’s. It was decades before Europe recovered from losing a couple generations of scientists. (Note that Japan also had their industry demolished, but their technologists stayed. Recovery was quicker and stronger)

  • Picabo

    When we had a decent person in the White House. I miss him.
    https://twitter.com/AbbyDobby/status/902633131009703936

    • gallbladder

      The man has soul.

      • Augustus

        true, but sadly even the statement, “the man has a soul,” still makes the subject far superior to Twitler

  • Daredevil

    I swear that new Taylor Swift video plays like a scene from the movie Get Out. Creepy.

    • OrG

      Who’s he?

  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

    Who knew David Brock was so evil? Heehee.
    https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/902545257576923137

    • jesterpunk

      See down thread in that twitter thread, its based off a fake reddit post which she even admits but leaves it up.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Oh. I’m sure it’s true in spirit.

        • jesterpunk

          See my other comment for which sub it came from.

    • jesterpunk

      Oh fuck, its from enoughsandersspam too, so they are dumb enough to fall for a post on a sub specifically setup to make fun of how dumb Sanders supporters are.

    • gene108

      Outside of Cenk, I am glad I have never heard of any of them. The Young Turks get a bit cray-cray.

      • CO

        Jimmy Dore went down the Seth Rich rabbit hole.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Nomiki Konst is on the “Unity” committee. Nobody knows why. She is also TYT. Fun fact: TYT got $4 million in 2014 from far right libertarian Buddy Roemer.
        Nomiki also blocked Rebecca on Twitter yesterday. Today she is praising DSA while a Dem city is being destroyed.
        Yes, this person has privileged input at the DNC.

    • jesterpunk
  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Fuck this soooo much:

    111.6 °F
    Feels Like 111.6 °F
    2.7 mph

    Humidity: 20%

    • That sounds…sticky

      • mancityRed6

        not with that humidity.

    • mancityRed6

      not to rub it in, but damn
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01d22229425f0bbf8213b3c7326fd55ce173712e17756daf22e9b34ae25b73f3.png
      this is not normal for August. I’m worried about what that means for the winter.

      • Old town Urbandale

        I heard someone refer to the weather here as “Augtober.”

        • mancityRed6

          pert near. it was in the low ’80s a couple of weeks ago even.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Means climate change is a myth, obviously.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      102 here in Los Angeles, same for the rest of the week.

      • Serai 1

        Went out to the doctor, the market and the dispensary this morning, and I am DONE for the week. Doors closed, windows closed, shades drawn all day. Thank the gods I’ve got a really big tree growing right next to my house, so at least the bedroom and bathroom stay relatively cool. And fans, of course. Lots of fans.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Your air quality is probably just as bad, too.

    • phoenix00

      It’s 85F @ 40% humidity up here in Vancouver, BC, and I’m feeling it.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    I’m watching someone get destroyed on FB by arguing some sort of weird Malthusian-style theory that stores in Houston should have gouged people prior to the storm arriving so that there would not be hoarding and that there would be adequate supplies to go around. It started with this image:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e79c712e613c88b07f9471e9c4abbd806865d66489bf7a2340d5605c9be7192.jpg

    • Raan

      Right, because it would never occur to people to just take it by force.

      • mancityRed6

        I like the way you think.

    • Doug Langley

      Pure genius. If people can’t afford it, then there’s plenty to go around.

    • jesterpunk

      Someone on forbes wrote an article about how they should price gouge during a disaster.

      • Mr. Blobfish

        I’ll be out back, sharpening my pitchfork.

        • Permit-holder Ron

          Leave it dull and rusty. Adds the terror of tetanus to the exsanguination.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I knew a contractor who was bringing roofing supplies down to Florida after a hurricane. I thought he was doing it as a humanitarian gesture, until he told me “you wouldn’t believe the money we made.” After he left SC owing people tens of thousands of dollars for work he didn’t perform, he hightailed it to Texas. I assume he’ll do the same thing down there.

    • altleftjohn

      ….. oh fuck it, my head hurts …

    • georgiaburning

      Charge $500 and you’ll never need to restock the store. Of course, you will make no profits

      • gene108

        Or desperate people will say fuck it and loot your store.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          I don’t consider a desperate grab for food to keep oneself and ones’ family alive “lootong”.

          • Augustus

            You don’t, but many do

            it’s hard to make a specific argument in favor of stealing, even if I agree with your sentiment

            unless you totally reject capitalism and its trappings, which I also support as a valid critique

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I do not argue for stealing. For heavens sake, I work in retail. This is a completely different situation. Fighting to let people starve will never be an ethical position, no matter what ZEGS Ryan or anonymous shitweasels on the Internet say.

          • Stulexington

            I’m happy to call it a part of the disaster and reimburse companies for stock that was stolen. You’re thirsty trying to work your way out of a deserted area of town during a state of emergency and there’s a gas station right there with water, yeah grab some, survive damnit.

          • Stulexington

            Once the window breaks, people will grab more than just food. I can’t really blame people for getting swept up during the whole stealing for necessities thing but yeah, a horde of thirsty people breaks into a Wallmart for water, lets just say the 50″ TV’s won’t be sitting on the shelves when they’re done.

          • Permit-holder Ron

            That’s what I said!
            – Jean Valjean

        • georgiaburning

          Good point. You make no profit and have an EMPTY store

    • Wolf Tracker

      Construction costs in Texas will double for the next few years.

  • Mormos

    “ICE has asked for permission to begin routinely destroying 11 kinds of records”

    what are the odds they have already started destroying these records?

    • Raan

      1:1.

    • La forza del resistino

      ‘someone hacked our server?’

  • theCryptofishist

    Fuckheads

  • Daredevil

    How the hell are there people on twitter blaming the Katrina response on Obama? Do they know that it was like 3 years before he became President? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/22ae881f1a53bbfb7681bb6a03d4084e282777637c334acf46960285a914b539.png

    • DainBramage

      They’re stupid and willfully ignorant.

      • ltmcdies

        Or their Russian bots pushing content

    • The Librarian

      It was Pre-Obama’s fault.

    • TJ Barke

      Some of these idiots blame him for 9/11.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Time machine, duh.

    • La forza del resistino

      How about … Hillary deleted the email warning from the weather service directed to New Orleans

    • jesterpunk
    • Raan

      No.

      No they don’t.

    • TJ Barke

      Don’t you know that Obama has been in office since 2000?

    • Serai 1

      Because they’re fucking morons.

    • miss_grundy

      Because they suffer from a case of the stoopids….

  • Lyly Sirivong
  • The Librarian

    ICE: “We need to hurry up and destroy the evidence. Eat faster!!”

  • theCryptofishist

    So, they do asylum interviews in the building where I work. The interviewees don’t actually look as downtrodden as I might expect, but maybe they are putting on very good fronts. Or it’s expressed differently by bodies from their cultures. Or I may not be very good at reading body language. I don’t want to hover around and do some sort of psychic vampire thing, and I odn’t want to throw them off their game, but I am struck with a sort of minor interior horror when I see them lined up in the lobby.
    *sigh*

  • Daredevil
    • WomanInThePersistence

      Really?

      http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/29/media/fox-news-uk-fox-sky-rupert-murdoch/index.html

      OMG, Really!

      “The network’s parent company, 21st Century Fox, has announced that the controversial news channel will no longer be broadcast in the U.K. after failing to attract an audience. The network has also become a lightning rod for critics seeking to spoil the Murdochs’ planned $15 billion takeover of Sky, the top pay TV provider in the U.K.”

      • jesterpunk

        I was talking with someone in the UK and they didnt even know that Faux Noise even aired there.

      • This is a country where the biggest TV scandal last year was the baking show moving channels and dropping the hosts

        • WomanInThePersistence

          What!?! The Baking Show dropped Mel and Sue!?!

          • AND Mary. It was an insane scandal

          • WomanInThePersistence

            THEY DUMPED MARY BERRY!?!?!

          • Yup. Hosts are now Sandy Totsvig and Noel Fielding (both of whom i quite like in other things). New judge is someone i don’t know

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Oddly, I am finding this very disturbing. Houston is under water, Arpaio is free, North Korea is shooting off ballistic missiles over Japan, ICE is trying to deport perfectly innocent people….and suddenly I understand why I’d rather think about this.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            My giant crush on Sue was the only reason to watch. I guess I’ll be rewatching old eps.

    • phoenix00

      Now if the British people tuned out bullshit on this level last year, we wouldn’t have Brexit.

    • Serai 1

      Um, link to the real tweet? I’d like to read that article.

      ETA: Never mind. :)

  • bluicebank

    Dear weather-chart people: I noticed you ran out of hues in plotting the rainfall in Texas.

    You’re gonna want one of these:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab0f9ca36415cfc476a7f7d29886fc2a1e44a9e0d269ecfc3f93a16d8fbc494d.jpg

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Dear Home Depot do you have something in a “we’re fucked”?

  • Joe Beese

    Great. Now she thinks she’s George Carlin.

    [Kathy] Griffin says she wants to focus on First Amendment issues now. She’s hoping to organize a First Amendment concert with the ACLU, and she’s working on a documentary film of her upcoming international tour, as well as a docu-series, although none of these projects has come to fruition yet.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Sheesh. You would think she was popular.

      • Joe Beese

        She’s the new Judy Garland or something.

  • Joe Beese
  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Dumb call of the day:
    “Hi, my husband was just offered a job and they told him he needs to come down and be fingerprinted. He’s awfully busy, so can I come down and do that for him?”

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Fiona the Hippo has her own show on BookFace and soon her own children’s book. Hope she doesn’t get a big head over this.

  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
    • Beanz&Berryz

      Wow… just serving people in need… very cool!

      • mancityRed6

        it’s sad that that has to be said.
        so very sad.

        • Joe Beese

          Sadder that I wouldn’t believe them.

          • mancityRed6

            yeah, I’m pessimistic like that

          • Werewolf

            City of Houston, I believe. La Pinche Migra, not so much.

    • DrBigHead

      What will ICE’s response be to this?

      • Joe Beese

        No sanctuary… sanctuaries!

    • OutOfOrbit

      BUT!!! ICE will be there (with buses) when they try to leave the shelters

  • Raan

    Time once again to plumb the unconscious. So, I dreamt that I drove down to the industrial area where I live, and that I pulled up in an alley behind a small warehouse that turned out to be the home of a shop specializing in tabletop RPGs. I walk along the side past a bunch of security cameras (like seriously holy shit balls) and I find an open door. Inside is a huge room (I figure it had to have been 30′ x 60′), filled with rows of tables of people running their own games. Some were using traditional RPGs, some were wargaming, one dude was sitting behind what had to be a foot and a half tall black dragon. They were all cliquey dicks though, so I left. On the way back to the car, I noticed that there were six wooden boxes (think WWII-era ammunition boxes) sitting by the road. One of them was full of wargaming-style soldier figures that I guess were being thrown out for being irregular. So I put all six boxes in my trunk and left.

    • mancityRed6

      I once worked on a pump on a levee here in KC. the guy I was with wanted to show me something, so he took me down a long, dark hallway at least 30′ underground. there was a room at the end with nothing but emergency rations from at least the ’40s. just boxes and boxes of crackers designed to fill basic nutrition and calorie counts.

      a few nights ago I had a dream that I was driving a truck, a big commercial truck, the front half of a semi/18 wheel truck. I could drive it just as well as I used to, but people kept walking out in front of me. or cars would be slow and I just couldn’t keep moving at all.

    • TJ Barke
    • Me not sure

      In my dream the RPGs were rocket propelled grenades and I got to keep some for my next dream.
      https://youtu.be/azYxPf_Ahp4

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    So Trump is ending DACA today, I heard. Soon as the rain lets up, A aircraft carrier is coming to get the 80,000 people to take them back to Mexico………MAGA

    But no aid for Houston…..you know sanctuary City and all.

    • phoenix00

      At least said aircraft carrier will be able to sail right on into Houston… WINNING

  • h4rr4r

    Texans should be grateful we won’t do to them what Republicans tried to do to Hurricane Sandy victims.

    • OutOfOrbit

      are you sure? i bet texass gets screwed just the same

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Probably by their own politicians.

      • Augustus

        Texas will always get screwed

        by Texas

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    So, has anyone heard how much money our billionaire president is donating to hurricane victims? I’ll take “five hundred dollars” for $200, please, Alex.

    • DrBigHead

      Not one dime.

    • OutOfOrbit

      i’ll take goose-eggs for squat, alex

    • phoenix00

      “About that donation thing…..” – veteran groups

    • jesterpunk

      Zero dollars and zero cents.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      10% off on Trump hats.

      • jesterpunk

        But first he will increase the price by 20%.

        • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

          And then sue the flooded homeless for back rent.

      • Me not sure

        …and FREE SHIPPING!

    • Raan

      $20,000 but he’ll cancel the check.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        $20,000, but he’ll charge Houston for his trip to visit them…$30,000.

        • Raan

          He’ll set up a tent, call it the Trump Hotel Houston, and charge the Secret Service $50,000 to use it while he’s there.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Breakfast at the Hotel Trump Houston – $30 for a bagel, $12 for bottled water.

    • the hotus is going to clean out one of her closets and give it to aspiring Houston debutantes distressed by the storm.

    • Permit-holder Ron

      Depends on how much money is in the Trump Foundation’s petty cash drawer.

  • Daredevil

    Surprising no one, Richard Spencer, who supports the failed Confederates, also praises the guy who LOST that boxing match the other night. For people who think they’re superior, they sure do love celebrating second place. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25ffda7f16dfb2a0a8ff9050ef0e8cb4d103eeaab951018d9ad3752312d039ec.jpg

    • Joe Beese

      They didn’t used to be “white”. So I can understand if they feel it’s an accomplishment.

    • Raan

      No fucking way in hell is he lumping me in with his gang of cockwhistles.

    • RobKanC

      Wait. We are considering mick’s white now. The standards of the white supremacists is going down.. what is this world coming to?

    • TJ Barke

      What a fool.

    • OrG

      LOSER

    • Canis Greyhame

      So what, like a participation trophy?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      The only reason McGregor lasted 10 rounds is because Mayweather wanted to put on a show (and build up the drama). By round 3, McGregor was already so out of it that a stiff breeze would have put him on the canvas. An amateur boxer would have taken McGregor apart like the tomato can he is.

      • Joe Beese

        When Gerry Cooney went up against Tyson, Father Beese sneered at the crowd’s demand for a Caucasian challenger – any Caucasian challenger – to the fearsome champion.

        “The Great White Dope”, he called Cooney.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Tomato Can libulz!

    • suziq

      Was someone stopping the Irish from being white again? Stop it you guys!

    • Augustus

      “The Irish get to be White!”

      the fuck dude?

      first, like Joe B. says below, the Irish didn’t used to be White

      and second, you sound so pathetically desperate, you need to get a new pr guy or something

    • spangled

      the Irish prime minister is gay and Indian, spencer dreams of an all-white safe-space country that doesn’t exist.

    • Permit-holder Ron
  • Mr. Blobfish

    Trump just signed a new deal with Acme Investment Co.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    My Denver has just unanimously told Trump and his ICE goons to FUCK THE HELL OFF.

    In an age when the Trump administration has intensified a crackdown on illegal immigration, Denver and its city leaders should stand publicly with the immigrants who face a constant risk of deportation.The council approved the measure, called the Public Safety Enforcement Priorities Act, on a 10-0 vote.

    “We’re not going to let anyone” enlist local police “to do their dirty work,” co-sponsor Paul López said — “not even a sitting U.S. president, not even a rogue agency.”

    “If you have any business with us whatsoever,” he said, “we ask one thing — show us a warrant.”

    http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/28/denver-elevates-immigration-stance-no-asking-about-status-but-limited-info-sharing-includes-jail-release-notifications/

    • Beanz&Berryz

      “show us a warrant.” = Show me your papers

      Poetic justice…

  • can’t we disappear all things Trump? I mean, this is America.. can’t we do votes or make findings? How about we all just go down there and fire him?

  • Joe Beese
    • DrBigHead

      I’ve had a couple of toxic gumbos in my day, although it could have been all of the booze I consumed with them.

    • Shanzgood

      Perfect.

    • Rick Hill

      trump’s response? “Great! The rain washes them clean that means we can make more cuts to the clean up.”
      Heck, it’s Texas. No regulations means that those hazardous wastes don’t do any damage

      • DainBramage

        And the lack of regulations in Texas means no one knows what every little industrial area has hidden in it.

    • Augustus

      I don’t think it’ll be nuclear winter or a zombie plague, I think it’s going to be infrastructure, agriculture, and habitat destruction from extreme weather that gets us

      • Stulexington

        Hope you don’t like shrimp because the ones that survive will be too toxic to eat if that hits the gulf.

        • Augustus

          there’s already Corexit all up in the sediment on the floor of the Gulf, too

        • Ms.Moon

          Thank goodness for this terrible shellfish allergy then.

    • Stulexington

      It’s really important that we get rid of all those unnecessary environmental regulations and just let the free market handle things.

      • Augustus

        well, it’s stifling the innovation of jerb creators, so we can’t have that duh

        • Stulexington

          IKR just imagine all the disaster cleanup jobs this will create.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    New Keith.

    https://youtu.be/KgZuk6e6MGw

    Good luck to everybody.

    • Serai 1

      Fuck me, what a self-fellating monster.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        I was about to go on a youtube binge and catch up on my favorite political personalities’ hot takes… I don’t think I’ll be able to handle much after this.

  • Shanzgood

    Ugh. I just read another article about the fungus-person “journalist” who called the cops on the folks “looting” food from a grocery store (that was all probably getting written off and thrown out anyway). I made the mistake of reading some of the comments. Most of them were supportive and sympathetic but WAY too many just make me want to redact things. So many things. So redacted.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Sometimes you really shouldn’t read the comments. Except here, of course.

      • Shanzgood

        I know. I feel like crying now.

        • awwww…

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Shannnnnnnn. Go to the helpers…

          • Shanzgood

            I’m going to the grocery store to find healthy vegetarian foodstuffs for my daughter’s friend who is staying with us (bad home situation). That’ll make me feel better.

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            I often think of you, taking care of that extra kid in your life. You are a rock star. I had my well-behaved and almost-grownup niece here for a week, and my patience was fraying at the end.

          • Shanzgood

            She doesn’t quite live here. Not yet, anyway, just 2 or 3 nights a week. But she’s just adorable, plus a good influence on my daughter. So I don’t mind.

          • Serai 1
          • Shanzgood

            Oh, that’s nice.

          • Serai 1

            Even a fucking DUCK understands the importance of helping others.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            That is so sweet!

        • WomanInThePersistence

          *hugs* And here is some emergency cute.

          https://youtu.be/FGrnvP5qWd0

      • Beanz&Berryz

        That’s true for our local newspaper. I only look at comments there to see what the ragey wingnuts are saying…

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        That’s why they don’t allow comments here.

      • Me not sure

        Where? … Where?

      • suziq

        Except comments are not allowed, darn it.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Yup. Lot of people have bought into the idea that, “You should have prepared better, then. Sucks to be you.”
      You know, because it’s so easy for people who can barely make the ends meet to buy emergency supplies in bulk.

      • Shanzgood

        How many days worth of food and water can you “prepare” to haul on your back through chest-high sewage-filled water? Jesus.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        America: Where being a poor planner or just plain poor is a death sentence!

      • Serai 1

        And keep buying them. They don’t keep forever.

      • Shanzgood

        Bulk doesn’t matter when you’re flooded out and can’t take much with you.

      • DainBramage

        Yeah, what is that? If you can’t prepare for a calamity like this then you should die? That’s compassionate conservatism for you.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      So I work for a petroleum company with two refineries in the area. We have a small staff still working, which is part of our emergency plan. Yesterday they were asking our emergency response team for things like toothpaste and toothbrushes, and food.

      We put millions of dollars into emergency planning and we still didn’t have everything we needed on hand in an area that has become inaccessible. It’s beyond outrageous to demand perfect planning for this kind of crisis from individuals.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    This was our view the day after Sandy. We were lucky. Water came within 2″ of flooding our basement. Power came back on on Election Night. Thanks, Obama. Water receded enough after three days that we could get out and take a look around. A couple blocks West, people got over eight feet of water and lost everything. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4206edd75091de5f76826ccd910e93302aded68e97e224a7f002c08e0af41375.jpg

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Too close a call…

    • therblig

      there’s a house i bike past most days that has a painted on waterline of where sandy reached. it’s about foot above the street level – in downtown jersey city about a quarter mile from the hudson. we had about 8 inches in the basement but saw it surging and moved pretty much everything upstairs. we were lucky.

      • Mr. Blobfish

        The petroleum products swept along from the surge have left a permanent sludge mark on a lot of buildings in the old neighborhood. The first night was very eerie. The salt water was eating away at the cars’ electronics. Lights were flashing and cars were chirping away. When the waters finally receded, the first down the street was a Peregrine Falcon followed by a UPS truck.

  • I have an idea – hotus can make a porn video with the moocher, and give the proceeds to a construction fund for Houston housing by lottery.

  • CeeQ

    Orange Idiot addressed an impromptu crowd outside a fire station in Corpus Christi with “what a crowd, what a turn out”

    It’s not a rally you DUMB FUCK.

    These people are devastated and suffering. They came looking for LEADERSHIP. But sure, this somehow ended up being about Trump. Omg I despise this man.

    • TJ Barke

      I’m sure a few people think that that counts as leadership… *sigh*

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        You would be right. I just saw a comment from one of his idiot defenders that commenting on the crowd size was done to lift morale.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Well, it certainly failed to lift mine.

        • TJ Barke

          There’s a group of you! Doesn’t that just lift your spirits?

      • Augustus

        he became president today

        also, too, I think he might’ve pivoted, not sure

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          The gravitas, the gravitas….

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Obama never had to remark about the “turn out” of any of his appearances. He didn’t need to either because:
      A) He knew that his job was not a publicity stunt but an actual… i dunno… JOB!
      B) We loved and would always flock to wherever the fuck he was rumored to be just to take crappy pics of him from a thousand feet away. A rumor that he was at a nearby Shake Shack in Dupont Circle had co-workers dropping everything to leave the office just to see if they could get near enough to his security detail.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Obama gets better crowds in foreign countries than Trump gets here.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        I’ve been to that Shake Shack. Good times.

      • CeeQ

        Exactly. He is a leader in every way possible. Trump seethes with jealousy because he knows he can never be one tenth the leader Obama was and still is.

  • Picabo

    Quantum superposition explained in one tweet.
    https://twitter.com/TheAmazombie/status/902554092735795200

    • free money incentive for the rich to provide jobs, and work harder.

      free money incentive for the poor not to work.

      rich sock free money in Cayman islands become richer ask for more, provide jobs for Chinese and East Indians – poor get poorer.

      • Stulexington

        We need to double down until it starts working as intended (it’s already working as intended).

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      BUILD THE BOX!….

      • Permit-holder Ron

        <golf clap>

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Violent effeminate cucks- didn’t they do that song Blister in the Sun?

      • Parakeetist

        I’ve seen them live a bunch of times!

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • bbayliss

      BOOM

    • jesterpunk

      Should that be surprising?

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Waiting to be surprised by him facing any actual accountability.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          ^^^^^^^^^IK,R?

          SMDH & RMDE.

        • jesterpunk

          Trump will pardon him since he did setup that secret meeting with Putin for him.

          • DrBigHead

            I suspect these pardons are going to start coming fast and furious

      • DrBigHead

        Would have been surprised if he wasn’t, quite frankly.

    • Serai 1
    • Rick Hill

      …and, still waitng to find anyone associated with trump that isn’t Russian or a crook or a mobster or a nazi

    • spangled

      just one? i would think literally thousands.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        The article is well worth a read if you get a chance. This references the killing of witnesss that were preparing to testify to illegal activities (weapons smuggling, in particular).

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Sister Betsy DeVos calls this a teachable moment.

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    As I linked below, Denver and other cities (and states) are going to become a bulwark against hate and fear and promote sustainability, peace and funnily enough, prosperity.

    I know there already is a kind of de facto association of municipalities but I can’t remember what it’s called. Can an Itt get some help here?

    • DrBigHead

      Well, there were the Delian and Hanseatic Leagues….

    • cock bros need to activate colorado nra, I guess, huh?

    • Beanz&Berryz

      The Kansas Economic Miracle…

    • CindyinEncinitas

      The Greek city-states.

  • phoenix00

    http://bitterempire.com/off-menu-stories-restaurant-customers-dumb-beggars-belief/

    Pinkham’s back at it! Even though egads that color scheme in the comments…

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Didn’t even make it to the comments. Is it me, or is he just phoning it in now?

      • phoenix00

        It’s been hit-or-miss, maybe due to OTM being punted around various domains?

        “Eggs too eggy” is a good one though.

  • CO
    • therblig

      cool. is that one of those unimportant places we don’t have an ambassador to yet?

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Michael Flynn client. Friend of Donnie.

      • Les Appentis De la résistance

        Its where they raise the birds for Thanksgiving.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          Right near Turduckenstan

        • therblig

          but they’re still fried in Greece, right?

          • Doug Langley

            Now you’re making me Hungary.

    • DrBigHead

      Doubt that they are still in the country

  • anti-matter: Republican generosity.

  • Serai 1

    Because sometimes it’s just fun to point and laugh

    30 ridiculous clothing items for sale right now

    Nice to see clear vinyl pants making a comeback. And whoever thought dickies would be a thing again?.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      I thought Dickies were sort of perennial.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste
    • The Wanderer

      Dear sweet Jesus in Jodhpurs!

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I saw those body suits with snaps at the crotch for sale the other day.

      Whyyyyyyyyyyyy. I thought we all agreed that these monstrosities were a Never Again clothing trend.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        And catsuits. Who wants to completely undress to pee?

      • Serai 1

        The only parts of clothing that I accept in detachable form are sleeves. Those can be seriously stylish. But detachable legs? Talk about awkward and ugly.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Regular Wonk non-commenters are all over dickies…

  • jaspersdad

    A couple of bicycle patrol officers in Montreal accidentally caught one of Homeland Security’s most wanted fugitives.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-police-1.4267593

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      I thought it was gonna be a joke, like a baby moose or sumthin.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Community policing works.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Did they have tanks and fully automatic weapons?

  • Rick Hill

    You do know that trump’s not going to learn a lesson about staffing and work even harder to make cuts to offset anything that goes to Houston, don’t you?

    • talking dog promises to solve america’s problems – turns out, he’s just a dog who talks.

  • Daredevil
    • they watch the news.

    • TJ Barke

      Cuz there’s a reason they fall back on race when it comes to their assertion of supremacy…

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      longterm inbreeding, mostly…

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      Green tee shirts were on sale.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      I think it’s filled with old lottery tickets…

    • Raan

      Because Republicans cut funding for schools to make sure their base stayed nice and stupid.

    • OrG

      Hey, they got 4 of 6.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        It was good enough to graduate…

    • natoslug

      Okay, I’ll bite. What exactly is a lo-pi-er?

    • Serai 1

      Because they’re fucking morons.

  • one more pundit says “at the end of the day, in every paragraph” and I’ll swear off the fake news!

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    Data storage is effectively free in 2017. There is absolutely NO reason to destroy records.

    • OrG

      No GOOD reason maybe.

    • the new plan is not to make any records.

    • Joe Beese

      You can buy an 8 TB drive on Amazon for $180. That’s more data storage than existed on the entire planet until maybe the 1990s.

      • Ωbjectifier

        That’s a lot of pr0n.

      • Permit-holder Ron

        I remember scrounging 40MB SCSI drives for my Macs, 20 years ago. If you could buy one for $1 a meg you were doing really well.

    • Doug Langley

      Tell that to Oliver North.

  • a cosmology question: what is Trump’s asshole expanding *into*?

    • stumpknocker

      well it already grew a face, arms and legs, but it is still all asshole.

    • miss_grundy

      A black hole?

      • that’s what it’s expanding *out of*

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    From the Daily Kos:

    As much as 50 inches—that’s more than four feet—of rain may fall in some areas before the storm passes, an event that the National Weather Service calls “unprecedented … and beyond anything experienced.”

    It may take years for Texas to recover from Hurricane Harvey. If you’re looking for ways to aid in the recovery, please consider chipping in to these charities:

    Texas Diaper Bank
    SPCA of Texas
    Coalition for the Homeless of Houston/Harris County
    Galveston Bay Foundation
    Houston Food Bank
    Galveston County Food Bank
    Coastal Bend Community Foundation
    Nueces County Community Action Agency
    Houston Diaper Bank
    Boys & Girls Clubs of the Coastal Bend
    Portlight Inclusive Disaster Strategies
    Food Bank of Corpus Christi
    Gulf Coast Humane Society
    Galveston Island Meals on Wheels

    Click here to chip in to one or more of these charities now.

    • Joe Beese

      If you can foster a dog or cat, you get to use the Express Lane at the Pearly Gates.

  • Moar Wordz

    1984

    • Bill D. Burger

      Republicans didn’t see Orwell’s work as a warning. They saw it as an instruction manual.

      https://i.imgflip.com/17tpgi.jpg

      • Doug Langley
      • Serai 1

        Part of the reason some people didn’t get that it was a warning was the publication of the book under the title 1984. That is not the title of the book. The title is Nineteen Eighty Four, and the difference may seem like one of semantics, but Orwell himself was adamant about it. He felt that the numerical title made it seem like a prediction, and he worried that people would cease to heed the warning (which is what he wrote the book to be) once the supposedly predicted date went by. And we have, by and large, forgotten about the warning, which is dire and very, very needed right now with the rise of surveillance and the addiction of the population to separation technology (let alone the climate of suspicion and rage being fanned like a fire.)

      • Moar Wordz

        Tru

  • Bill D. Burger

    No matter how busy you are or how hard you’re working, sometimes you just got to live out loud for a minute….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWnhSJZ6L58

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      When I had a construction company, I had some employees like that. Surprising I didn’t go bankrupt…

      • miss_grundy

        I’m surprised he didn’t fall off the roof. I wonder if his boss had conniptions watching him do that?

        • suziq

          Supposed to be tied off so they can’t fall. Stupid regulations!

      • Bill D. Burger

        I have to admit I was wondering how much damage was done to the roof during the dance? ___ But it did make me smile!

        • therblig

          like a dozen new leaks.

  • Moar Wordz

    The U.S is becoming a Dictatorship, GOP action by action.

  • Michael R
    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Simply Divine.

  • Joe Beese

    Watching the ASL interpreter at the Houston mayor’s press conference.

    Does the deaf community think of one-handed signers as having a “speech impediment”?

    • RobKanC

      spat out my dinner.. Thanks to you…

      • Joe Beese

        It was a serious question. ASL really is a language, with different dialects and everything. It stands to reason that the analogy might extend.

        • RobKanC

          Still funny though…

        • Jeff Ackerman

          My wife teaches blind/visually impaired and at times deaf/mute students. One hand works for a lot of words. There are two distinct styles of signing. I learned all the swearwords from a deaf welder I worked with years ago. I gave up learning anything else.

        • Werewolf

          It would be like a speech impediment, yes. One-handed signing is comprehensible, but it can be difficult. Deaf people will sometimes sign one-handed if they’re holding something, but some signs are done with both hands. (My son is Deaf, so I have some experience with it).

    • stumpknocker

      not really, when it comes to trump, all you need is a middle finger.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Used to be a signer for Def Leppard

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        Funny, I’ve never heard of them.

      • Joe Beese

        When the band was promoting Hysteria, after Rick Allen lost his left arm, a concerned reporter asked them, “Is he right handed?”

        I think it was Joe Elliot who laughed and said, “He is now!”

  • miss_grundy

    But tell me again how Tangerini is not a racist bigot rat bastard son of a whore and pimp. Go ahead–tell me. Mueller can’t bring the hammer down hard enough or fast enough for me.

  • JD Mulvey
  • Michael R
    • Joe Beese

      That’s a snazzy looking hat. Wish I knew where I could find one.

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        And it displays it’s owner’s IQ.

        • AJ Milne

          Might be reading a little high, still.

        • Dudleydidwrong

          Missing decimal point.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Goes well with the face he’s making.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlvNnvEfNMw

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      This is like wearing your own fucking band shirt to your own fucking gig. Pathetic beyond belief.

  • Raan

    Question: Would you go back in time and fuck with electoral history, and if so, how?

    EDIT: For the record, I’d go back to the Ambassador hotel in ’68 and pimp-slap the shit out of Sirhan.

    • jesterpunk

      Go back to last year and drag the fucking purity ponies out to the polls and make them vote.

      • DrBigHead

        I think I would just punched them in the snoot. Wouldn’t have changed anything, but would have made me feel better.

        • jesterpunk

          That is when they pull the “both sides are exactly the same” bullshit.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Reverse votegirl?

    • OrG

      Bet all my money on the ’69 Mets. Take the winnings and buy politicians.

      • Raan

        Solid plan.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        I think the pay-out on that now isn’t as good as it once was…

    • TJ Barke

      No Nixon, no Reagan, no Shrub I & II. AND NO TRUMP.

    • TJ Barke

      Maybe change the voting system so no more first past the post shit.

    • Claire

      I would go all the way back to the Founding Fathers and have a come-to-Jesus with them about putting in better ways to remove an incompetent president, as well as disabusing them of the idea that rural votes should be given more weight than urban votes. The issue is in the system, and this was inevitably going to happen sooner or later.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Parliamentary system. Fuck this present experiment.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        ^^THIS

    • RMKH

      I’d make sure Nader came down with a temporary condition that caused him to not run.

    • Doug Langley

      Mid October, lock Comey in a basement somewhere in Idaho.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Comey has a new job at Howard University. He’s okay.

        • Doug Langley

          I suppose it’s too much to hope for that he’s an adjunct instructor.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • AJ Milne

      Love the display on the Underwood.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Saved it. Just for grins.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Palin’s libel lawsuit against the NYT is thrown out.

    Libel libelz!!!!

    • stumpknocker

      on the down side, she is going home and start clubbing baby seals again.

      • DainBramage

        We need to arm those baby seals.

      • Bill D. Burger
        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          I don’t know how she does it, unless you mean by hunting “hits with her car when driving drunk’. The moose are smarter than she is.

          • Bemused Australian

            Mooses.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Meese.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Just plain old kittens where she is…

    • Bill D. Burger

      She should have been physically ejected with it.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Who?

    • Walter Wellstone

      Bristol is going to be so upset she’s going to get knocked up again. You’ll see.

    • ariel_gee_398

      I only regret that it wasn’t tossed for failure to prosecute.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Another Palin family street rumble coming down?

      • therblig

        all momma’s drinkin’ money spent on lawyers.

  • Michael R

    Best Buy apologizes for ‘big mistake’ of price-gouging Texans for water —
    after their stock tanks

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7aa8340d1de7c0e23cc3117fe1c395624fea29bc839063038d8f01258501e64b.jpg

    • Stulexington

      We really thought we could get away with this shit and apologize that we got caught. We will try very hard in future to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Perhaps smaller signs that are slightly blurry.

    • Bemused Australian
      • Raan

        Only until the point where people get together and decide that they’re just going to take that shit.

        • Bemused Australian

          That be car tippin’ time.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      But are they actually refunding their customers? Or donating the money? Words are cheap. Unlike their water.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i would say the AG doesn’t like that – but it’s Abbott, so…

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      And there’s Melon providing expertise on waterproof stilettos.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bill D. Burger

    Hey Donny boy! To you and your minions.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIbgue5VwAA6f7S.jpg

    • Suse

      Brrrr… Malaria should stock op on stiletto snowshoes asap.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Fur-lined tassels.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          Stripper heels.

  • Bemused Australian

    Oops (was meant in reply to Michael R)

  • Suse

    “Harvey sounds like such an innocent name, but it’s not innocent, right Ben?”

  • Bill D. Burger

    That’s right! And you won’t destroy the legacy Donny boy. You’ll simply become THE lesson in complete executive failure, and one to which all future generations will point as a total L O S E R.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIbId6LVAAACdIv.jpg

    • Ωbjectifier

      G’damn, he even make a cowboy hat look cool!

    • Raan

      And laugh.

      And boy oh boy is he ruining the Trump brand.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
      • RMKH

        Demerits for the gold-colored couch. Otherwise thumbs up

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

          Place might have been previously furnished.

          • RMKH

            And of course they couldn’t know what fake gold shit would come to symbolize

      • Permit-holder Ron

        <sobs>

      • Suse

        This makes me weep, honestly. MSNBC just showed a clip of O embracing and comforting a Sandy victim. What a contrast.

  • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

    You know, I used to be a nice person– not given to hatin’ on anyone, usually pretty mild-mannered and even-tempered.
    But now, more often than not, I stalk through my house, muttering, “Goddam them to hell, Dammmit, Dammit,” and scaring the dog.
    thanks, Donnie 2-Scoops, for making me a worse person.
    grrr, grrrr.

    • Augustus

      I think he’s made everyone significantly less happy then they were just 6 months ago

      I really think most of America would agree that they’re more anxious and less happy than they were when the black guy was still prusnident

    • Suse

      I have never been so angry or anxious in my life and I am an old who has seen a lot of triggering events in my life.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I’ve taken to grinding my teeth. I still have periods of disbelief, too.

      • Suse

        I’m grinding my teeth, too!

        • OutOfOrbit

          i thought wiches filed their teeth

          • Suse

            Hardy har har. :-p

      • Bemused Australian

        I suspect the drinking session I had with my parents, my sister, and her husband after the results were clear may have caused some degree of brain damage (particularly given we did the same thing after the Brexit vote).

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        I’m drinking more than I ever have in my life. There are other factors, mind you…but this is the biggest one.

        • Suse

          I was too, but I stopped pretty much. I put on about 10 lbs and it was disturbing what little sleep I get.

        • Parakeetist

          Yeah, me too. My Mom even noticed. I just feel so hopeless. :(

    • Parakeetist

      Yeah, me too. This aggravates my depression really badly.

      • Suse

        I had to increase my antidepressant and BP meds!

    • Bemused Australian

      He has made everyone who is paying attention a worse person, both those who like him and those who don’t.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Dog pics or GTFO. I mean that with love. :)

    • Wolf Tracker

      I turn off Trump any time he starts speaking. Not good for my blood pressure and makes me want to punch my computer.

      Take a break from the politics. Get out in nature. Love on your dog and remember we have survived worse than Trump and we will survive this.

      • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

        Yeah, going for a bike ride now. Working in my garden helps, also too.

        • Wolf Tracker

          There ya go!

    • Stulexington

      I personally embraced one of the feminist tenants and started expanding my emotional range. They have not achieved the heady plateau that is my hate, instead all they have is my disgust and contempt.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bill D. Burger
  • btwbfdimho

    Sooner or later this will happen to the pinche wall, cabrón hijo de la chingadísima.
    https://twitter.com/DTGoteraKHOU/status/902587452040282114?s=09

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Orale!

  • WeaselPoo

    Crooks and Liars articles;
    Laura Ingraham on Fox & Friends asked “where’s the staff?” referencing unfilled necessary appointments, some of which relevant to Harvey relief.
    Killmeade then rattled off the count of missing appointments (in the hundreds).
    So Trump’s favorite morons CAN ACTUALLY WORK
    WITH REAL FACTS AND RATIONAL ARGUMENTS! Hmmmm!?!

    Trump responded that it was part of his reducing goverment size policy. But he didn”t call them fake news or unfair for their ACTUAL criticism.

    Must be an abberation on both sides.

    • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

      Huh, typical Republican “penny-wise, pound-foolish” strategy. Goddam it, Donnie, for every $ you save in salaries, how much does it cost the American Taxpaper to fix the damage that the gaps in staffing cause?

    • Rick Hill

      Seems what they do is ask him one of those actual questions, he gives an answer and everyone is satisfied. This is why his base keeps with him, they feel he answers their questions and it’s a valid reason.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Votes against relief aid for victims of Hurricane Sandy: 2013

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIarmcwUIAAqL7V.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIbEUzRUQAE-SvA.jpg

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I gotta go to bed. Leaving you with Derp Princess’s taunts, which totally backfired on the Twits. Scroll through for a few giggles.
    https://twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/status/877747990550544385
    Aw, and her libel “case” got tossed out of court on its ass today too. Sad day for the Alaskan shit skank.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Good night!

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      four straight what? He link goes nowhere.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        I think it’s supposed to be election victories that went R, based on the responses.

    • Bemused Australian

      Caribou Barbie be rollin’. Peeps be hatin’.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      I can’t believe that there are people who really are constitutionally incapable of fucking off forever.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Update on my friend Rob who lost a leg in a car/motorcycle accident. Today we went to court for the other driver’s trial – almost exactly 1 year to the day since it happened. She has tried every trick in the book to get out of it, including a request to dismiss the charges, and a last-minute attempt to plea bargain the charges down, but we held firm. Rob rolled into the courtroom in his wheelchair wearing his “U.S. Air Force Veteran” t-shirt that I found at the VA Hospital gift shop, with his stump clearly visible, and made a Victim Statement asking the judge to give her the maximum sentence allowable. The judge did so, but the maximum allowable was: $100 fine for careless & imprudent driving, $200 fine for failure to have insurance, court costs (about $200), 90 days in jail, suspended, with 2 year’s unsupervised probation, 60 hours of Community Service, and mandatory attendance at a Driver Improvement Program (this costs money, I don’t know how much). She has to return to court in November to submit proof that she completed the Community Service and the DIP and has purchased insurance, and will pay all the fines at that time, in cash. The judge told her “If you appear in any courtroom in this state during your 2 years probation, including municipal traffic courts, you will go to jail and lose your license.”

    The interesting thing was her appearance. I saw her photos on her FB page. She was a very petite, slim 34-yr-old woman, blonde and not unattractive, a year ago. In court today she had lost so much weight she looked like a Stage 5 cancer patient, her clothes were shabby and 2 sizes too big, she was wearing flip-flops, her hair was unwashed and uncombed, and her face was pitted with what looked like acne scars, and she looked 10 years older. I immediately thought “Meth addict.” She was very subdued, did not say a word until she walked out and passed Rob in his wheelchair, and then she whispered “I’m sorry” so faintly that I was the only one who heard her. She was there with what I assume is her boyfriend – he also looked like a Meth Addict, was covered in tattoos, and limping badly on crutches (did she run into him too?)

    Her lawyer told the Prosecuting Attorney that she was driving for her employer on the day of the accident, so maybe Rob can sue her employer for not making sure she had car insurance???? Don’t know, must look into that. She was working part-time at a little garden shop, but they fired her a few weeks later. I doubt they have much liability insurance. Also I don’t believe her.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      poor guy, glad you were with him.

      Do they not have a victim compensation fund in your state? (FWIW, I don’t know how ours works).

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Yes, there is a Victim Compensation Fund. It specifically excludes automobile accidents. I guess there are so many it would bankrupt the fund.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Also doubtful that her employer sent her out to drive recklessly and take someone’s leg off.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Very true, but her employer had a responsibility to make sure that she was a competent and insured driver before asking her to do business in their name on their time in her car.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      I would guess that would depend on the state. This is all fresh on my mind since I’m study studying for my NJ Property and Casualty nerd license. If she was in her own car, she would not be covered by her employer’s commercial coverage.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I am researching this right now. There is something called “Vicarious Liability.” A Maine website says “The liability section of the Business Auto Policy provides protection for bodily injury and property damage for which the insured company is liable. Under common law, employers are responsible for the actions of their employees. Employers must be sure that their policies provide coverage for “non-owned” and “hired” autos. The company is then protected if an employee causes an accident. Any accident caused by an employee while driving his or her own car will be paid first by the insurer of that vehicle. If there is not enough coverage under the employee’s policy then the employer’s business auto policy will step in to pay the excess amount if the employer’s policy has been endorsed to include ’employees as additional insured.'”
        https://www.scottsimmonds.com/blog/business-insurance/employee-auto/
        I haven’t found a Missouri site yet.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos
          • Angela Ruzzo

            Goody! Thanks! I hate reading State Statutes, they give me a headache. I have to read them three times to make sure I am not getting it backwards. For example, when I looked up the vehicle registration for scooters a few days ago, it clearly said “up to 50 cc” and you have to think about that carefully, because it does not say “up to and including 50 cc” so the cut-off is 49 cc.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            you would have made a great lawyer! That’s exactly the kind of thing they test on the LSAT (for just such a reason).

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Thank you! People have been telling me I should have been a lawyer since I was about 12. I considered it…but the thought of spending 3 more years in school after college was nauseating, and I couldn’t afford it, and I needed to start supporting myself ASAP. So instead I got a master’s degree in 1 year and paid for it with a research assistantship. I would like to have been a lawyer for the ACLU or some such organization, but I think that work must get very depressing. I was a kind of Immigration Attorney for 4 years at a university International Student Office, and I found that VERY rewarding – helping students resolve visa and employment issues. I handled 50 Voluntary Departure cases and only lost 1 of them – and we knew we wouldn’t win that one but we gave it our best shot. My favorite case was the Iranian student whose funds were cut off after the Iranian revolution, and who couldn’t go home or he would be arrested. He had written a rubber check to the university for his tuition. The university turned it over to the Prosecuting Attorney, and I wrote the P.A. a 6-page letter explaining the political and financial situation the guy was living with and asking for mercy, and the P.A. agreed to send the matter back to the university, who agreed, on my recommendation, that a payment plan be set up. The student was so grateful he almost kissed me, and he named his next daughter after me. That felt good.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            nice! That’s awesome.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            also, happy to help. it’s good practice.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          “If a defendant is found to bear less than fifty-one percent of fault, then the defendant shall only be responsible for the percentage of the judgment for which the defendant is determined to be responsible by the trier of fact; except that, a party is responsible for the fault of another defendant or for payment of the proportionate share of another defendant if any of the following applies:

            (1) The other defendant was acting as an employee of the party;

            (2) The party’s liability for the fault of another person arises out of a duty created by the federal Employers’ Liability Act, 45 U.S.C. Section 51.
          http://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=537.067&bid=28465&hl=

          Problem is whether she was on the clock or not.

          • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

            That’s one. The other is the “frolic and detour” argument – for most liability claims, an employee must travel in a straight, efficient line for their employer.
            So if I am driving from work site “A” to see client at location “B”, as long as I travel directly from A to B and back to A again my employer is liable for my actions because I was directed to do this. But if I decide I want to stop for lunch at restaurant “C”, which is 10 miles off the route from “A” to “B”, there is now the argument that I am not on my employer’s business and am solely liable.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ah, thanks. Interesting.

            I was arguing some years ago about a principal who died on her way to work, and we were disagreeing about whether she was “on the clock.”

          • Angela Ruzzo

            How did that turn out? Normally commute time is not considered work time.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            I honestly don’t remember.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i’m trying to find statute of limitations. Almost everything is 2 years here in Texas; it’s apparently been a year, but I’m worried the window will close for our friend’s friend.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            and I just found it, of course.
            ; )

            3 years.

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            Which a local attorney or legal defense team can confirm… hopefully?

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            yes of course – CAUSE I’M NOT AN ATTORNEY. I CAN’T GIVE LEGAL ADVICE.

            Should have said that again and always.

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            I didn’t want to poke, because you’re a generous, helpful person…but this IS the interwebs, so…gotta cover the bases.
            *I’m glad you’re a generous, helpful person, and I have to be mindful of these things too.
            *hugs! I’m glad you’re safe in the desert*

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            thanks friend, and no, you were absolutely right. It’s why I pasted it without comment – but always best to be clear.

            ; )

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            It’ll help when your nonexistent comments are subpoenaed at the Jade Helm camp in Walmart’s basement ;-)
            Dawg knows, it’s a pain even to find insurance to be a bonded notary these days!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Thanks for the info! She says she was working, and she would definitely have been an hourly employee, so there must be payroll records. It was 3 pm on a Saturday afternoon, and they close at 5, so it is unlikely that she was on her way to work at that hour.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            see spotts thing a little below as well.

            But fer chrissakes, find a lawyer. Just talking to the attorney should be free.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Rob had an attorney – a slimy but well-known guy who advertises on TV and who makes a bundle off of car accidents. He was not the lawyer I recommended. Mr. Slime dropped the case in January when he found out the woman’s father, who co-owned the car, had dropped his insurance coverage a month before the accident, saying “There’s no one to sue.” I strongly suggested today that he take this new information to a different lawyer, but he already called Mr. Slime. They haven’t called back yet.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            well, if slime thinks he can recover (or settle) he’ll get back to it toot suite.

          • Angela Ruzzo
    • Suse

      Her “punishment” is not nearly enough in my opinion. What were the circumstances of her running into him?

      • Angela Ruzzo

        He was riding his motorcycle below the speed limit at 3 pm on a clear, sunny Saturday afternoon in September on a 4-lane business loop and she was sitting in the center left-turn lane, she turned left immediately in front of him and hit him head on, he flew 60 feet through the air and hit a power pole which cut off his left leg and broke his right leg in 10 places. Motorcycle was totaled. She left the scene, but returned 5 minutes later. We are pretty sure she was trying to do an illegal U-turn to get into the garden shop where she worked, but she has changed her story 3 times so no telling what she was actually doing. She has 4 prior traffic violations and a DUI and a closed juvenile record.

    • SisterArtemis

      Thanks for the update. It doesn’t seem like that’s much compensation for your friend.

      As an aside… about the “covered in tattoos” thing. Lots of people are covered in tattoos. Most of them are responsible members of society, many of whom don’t show their tattoos because they wear scrubs or business suits. Dumbshits often leave their tattoos showing in court because they don’t have the smarts to protect themselves from the personal biases of judges, but the tattoos themselves are really not indicative of much. Trust me. I do this for a living, and most of our industry works on people who you’d be very happy to have as your neighbors.

      Sorry, but I had to speak up. Now back to your regularly scheduled commenting, and best of luck to your friend; a year isn’t much time to adjust to such enormous events and changes, and I’m sure he has a long way to go.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        I agree about tattoos in general not indicating character, although I do not personally like them because they are permanent. I’m all for expressing one’s individuality any way one chooses, and I have done so myself, but never in any way that I couldn’t undo if I changed my mind a month or a year from now. I mentioned it because showing up in court in a sleeveless t-shirt and knee-length shorts which reveal tattoos from head to toe is indicative of a certain type of person, i.e. not a smart person. A courtroom is serious business, and one should dress seriously.

        I have many friends with tattoos, but in business attire they are not visible. A person might be poor and disadvantaged, but you can find a clean shirt or blouse and pants or skirt at Goodwill for less than $5. Why people show up in court dressed like like hobos is something I don’t understand, unless maybe they are subtly voicing their opinion of the judicial system??? I’m not sure. I wore a suit. Rob would have worn a suit but he wanted the judge to see his stump which meant wearing shorts, so I got the idea of the Air Force t-shirt so she would also know he was a veteran. Subtlety works both ways.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    How much of a thin-skinned, pathetically needy, insecure, grasping, damaged piece of human shit do you have to be to brag about the size of the crowd at a disaster relief site?

    • foiled again

      The measure of shamelessness and self-obsession to use in this case is a Trump. therefore, exactly one Trump.

      • TJ Barke

        Most people only rate somewhere in the militrump range.

        • foiled again

          Exactly.

    • Crank Tango

      All of it, Katie.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I think his brain is broken. It’s his default mode. He’s a sleazy Reality Teevee star who doesn’t understand any other way to behave and doesn’t want to learn. Crom help us, he really believes the Presidency is a big episode of The Apprentice.

    • OutOfOrbit

      the worst
      period
      that is all
      the end

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea
  • So I was reading about the recent Clovis Library shooting in NM…..One of the people wounded in that tragedy is a library employee named Jessica Thron. I go to look up that name on Google and find a woman named Jessica Thron who looks very similar to the Clovis victim, but who is in fact a different person, married to Carrey Rottman, a survivor of the Aurora theatre shooting.
    Weird.

    • Suse

      That is extremely weird.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Reminds me of that weird genre of tv documentary about all the strange coincidences between the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations.

      • Guns are a great way of establishing connections.

  • Picabo

    Today in history. “Hurricane Katrina makes landfall near New Orleans, Louisiana, as a Category 4 hurricane on this day in 2005.”
    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hurricane-katrina-slams-into-gulf-coast

    • ltmcdies

      For the doorknobs on Breitbart….3 years PRE Obama

      • Suse

        Still his fault.

        • La forza del resistino

          To stop the threat of flooding, he tried to stick his thumb in a dyke, but she said don’t even think about it.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I was sitting in court today with a friend and they had one of those tear-off calendars on the wall, and I saw the date and shuddered, cause I was living there at the time. Twelve years ago…seems like a million years ago, or a week ago, depending on my mood.

  • Bemused Australian

    For those wanting something feelgood to watch, particularly any Aussies worn out by the godawfulness of our postal vote/survey/ballot on marriage equality, I’d highly recommend ‘Pride’ (IMDB link below). Doubtless it can be obtained via the intertubes in any number of completely legal fashions.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3169706/

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      hey, how is that going anyway?

      • Bemused Australian

        The ‘survey’ will be getting mailed out soon, and the whole thing’s going to the high court (equivalent of the US supreme court). In short, it’s a complete fucking mess.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          i’m genuinely kinda shocked about that – fuckin’ hell, if it’s legal in the U.S. and all…we’re pretty behind on this kind of stuff.

          • Bemused Australian

            We’re the only English speaking country where this hasn’t been sorted. It’s a joke.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            what’s the aussie policy on weed? Any chance of that changing?

          • Bemused Australian

            Even possession is still a criminal offence in most states, but the cops aren’t interested in enforcement for the most part.

          • lsd/psillocybin 200 micrograms

            colorless, tasteless, undetectable… speed? weed? wtf?

            why don’t you kids get off your asses, and learn you some organic chemistry?

          • Bemused Australian

            You can detect it. Look into their eyes…

          • yeah, sure.. they *think* you can see it, but you can’t…
            even if they saw it in your eyes, what are they going to do?
            force you to go to an all night diner and sit at someone else’s table?
            I’ve never been able to solve the border patrol cop part… how do they *do* that? Is there a class? I want to take it. (the class)

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            yes there is.

          • they teach the evil eye?

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            among other things, here on the border I used to seen PLENTY of news releases about how they noticed someone was “nervous”.

            They once found a guy with a big baggie of pills or some shit in the crotch of his pants cause he was being all suspicious.

            Also, trained cops had do the horizontal something or other test for DUI’s. It’s a very specific thing, but kinda fascinating.

          • Bemused Australian

            Oh, I meant the people on acid, not the ones smuggling it.

          • they’d never find it.. .never ever ever…

    • SisterArtemis

      @WomanInAMood:disqus will be very happy you brought this flix to our attention. She has praised in many times in these here non-comments.

      • Bemused Australian

        She is a woman of excellent taste, and the proprietress of many cheeses.

  • Daredevil
    • Doug Langley

      Night.

    • all nazis matter.

  • Alexander Stallwitz
  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    Time for a break as required by the Amalgamated Union of Kittens, Puppies, Bunnies and Other Impossibly Cute Critters.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e439efeee1a9c4cf5aa825c60e8d31c4e9ce2022ac33dfcbe467b6ade72a00ea.jpg

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Lol! I saw this 3 times before I realized it wasn’t cosplay!

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • HazooToo

      This is the only time I’ll ever say this and mean it: Fuck Llamas!

      • Wild Cat

        He should be fired on the spot.
        And what a fucking capitalist scumbag—potentially trying to get starving humans killed for taking food that would rot anyway.
        I’m sick of our fucking media and I’m absolutely shocked anyone watches it save to monitor how fascist it is.

      • therblig
        • HazooToo

          This is the best thing I’ve ever seen in my life.

  • BrendaKay

    I love the look on the Finnish President’s face.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-finland-trump-boeing-idUSKCN1B91X3

    • Suse

      Wow!

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      All of the visiting heads of state make that face. Though nobody does it as well as Angela.

    • RMKH

      Looking forward to the day when some foreign leader can’t take any more and gutpunches the SOB. With votes. Of course, other country’s leaders are too classy for that, but a guy can dream.

  • Jonny On Maui

    My secret shame.

    When you have the remote and are adjusting the volume, where do you stop? Even or odd? Is it the same all the time? Do you ever switch?

    When I adjust the volume, it always stops on a prime number. I’ve considered getting help…

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Consult your local abicus.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Also abacus.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          I’ve seen it both ways.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Ah. Language is a lovely thing but I’m starting to think Douglas Adams was right:
            The Babel fish has led to significant and profound consequences for the
            Universe; apart from the philosophical implications, the Babel fish has
            started more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of
            creation, because it has removed all barriers to communication.

        • Up In Smoke O’hontas

          Spell chak dint no it, so I wint with ma gut.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Gud speling is fer sissy liburls anyways

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            Eeleetist an shit!

    • DrBigHead

      Always even. Always. I have a problem….

    • BrendaKay

      I always do multiples of 3 on car radio volume.

    • OutOfOrbit

      their is no help four you

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      I stop when it seems loud enough…

    • HazooToo

      Multiples of 5.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Without looking it up:
      2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97, 101, 103, 107, 109, 113, 127.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I was told there would be no math.

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

          They’re just numbers, don’t you have to do something with them for it to be math?

          • Just looking at numbers gives me PTSD.

          • C4TWOMAN

            I have a very intelligent friend who completely freeze at math. I tried to explain percentages–it’s easy, their just parts of 100–a something, whatever divided by 100.
            Nope, nope total withdrawal. I probably screwed it up at “it’s easy”…

          • I used to buy old math textbooks to try to teach myself the basics (tutoring doesn’t work for me). I would forget what I learned halfway through the book, causing me to break down in miserable tears. Math is a language I SO want to learn, but can’t. I think the problem is related to the fact I have a very poor visual memory (images don’t linger in my mind).

          • PabloDali
          • I got really excited (love his accent and demeanor), then broke down about the.32 second mark.😣

          • PabloDali

            The Numberphile channel produces 100s of videos on interesting math topics, some of it mind bending, but usually illustrated and explained for those who were not math majors in college.

            http://www.numberphile.com/

            The narrator James Grimes makes even the incomprehensible stuff tolerable.

          • Thank you, I will look into this definitely!

          • C4TWOMAN

            Interesting. I have a very good visual memory, but it took a long time for me to feel confident with math. I never was afraid of it, it was just reading was easier and more enjoyable. Then I got tired of people thinking I was dumb and applied myself.

            The problem for me is pure abstraction doesn’t do it. I excelled at geometry–like scary fast–not quite prodigy, but faster than Algebra. This is almost the exact opposite of most people who hate geometry. Trig was easy for similar reasons.
            My problem is pure abstract problems bore me and I lose focus. Who really cares about the function of whatever, I I don’t know what it’s for?

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            I hated geometry until I started doing home repairs myself. Being able to discern shapes and angles become key.

          • C4TWOMAN

            The practicality really does make a difference. That’s algebra for me—I need an unknown quantity–oh yeah, that algebra stuff will get me there!
            But Geometry was magic–I get a similar feeling using navigation in 3d modeling.

          • Dudleydidwrong

            Bingo. My life exactly. Loved geometry, loathed algebra, grasped trig. As I aged I began to see the beauty of numbers but it has taken a hell of a long time.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            I had a friend that I would go to Mexico with. I can do mental math so she relied on me to do the price conversions for her.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            They’re math precursors.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Like a gateway drug.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        That would be all of the primes in the first seven octaves of the harmonic series.

        • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
          • Dudleydidwrong

            Interesting. Based on “Lonesome Valley,” I believe, a Woody Guthrie song. Thanks for posting that.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Fractions of Pi or go home.

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            Fractions of Pi don’t form pure musical intervals.

          • C4TWOMAN

            Oh whatever….math is hard!

      • Bemused Australian

        Without looking up, those are all correct and can see no omissions. Nerd.

      • therblig

        now you’ve gone and called the aliens

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        NERD.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I stop at whatever seems right, then adjust it down one unit.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        I have to be courteous to my neighbor next door. So I can’t go but so loud.

    • Serai 1

      I stop when it’s loud enough.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      I’m surprised that simply turning it up to eleven hasn’t been suggested yet.

  • Up In Smoke O’hontas

    So, they don’t have access to scanners or fucking microfiche?
    Fuck. I. Cant. With This. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d4c44d7cf6425ff679a643cec560b89c1c6811c31a0a9d02a449a9ea7bc6399.jpg

  • Suse

    Krispy Creme is defending Drumpf’s lies, the pardon, and everything he’s said or done. He needs to fall into a sinkhole and disappear.

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      or a greasy, sugary, doughnut hole.

      • AuntyMaude

        No good, he’d eat his way out.

        • Suse

          Quicksand might do the trick. Too gritty and bland to eat.

          • Jeffocaster in the West

            Boy am I stupid……I was thinking I’d have to swear off those greasy sugary little donuts….

    • therblig

      he’s so fucking desperate for a job after being one of the most hated and least successful governors ever. he’s like baby huey except he’s on the fox’s side.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Doughnut Libelz!1!1!1 The d00d is Kris Krispy Kreme.

  • Picabo
    • DrBigHead

      You just selected our dinner music. Thank you!

  • Anna Rompage
    • C4TWOMAN

      Sounds yummy!

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Pozole!

      • Anna Rompage

        Almost, this has a little more vegetable and chiles than a traditional Pazole, but the two are quite similar

    • DrBigHead

      Labor day weekend marks the beginning of the Hatch chile season here in Tucson. They arrive in the stores by the gunny sacksful. Lots of places roast them on the premises. I prefer to do it myself. All you need then are some good tortillas and cheese. Plus a good sippin’ tequila.

      • Suse

        Are they hot? I can’t do hot.

        • DrBigHead

          Varies, but all of them have some heat. Some are downright incendiary.

          • Suse

            Anaheims are about my speed.

          • DrBigHead

            Hottest chile I have ever eaten was labeled as an Anaheim. Suffered for two full days (or so it seemed).

          • therblig

            we were in new hope pa one sunday (weekends suck unless you ride a motorcycle) and stopped in this store that sold nothing but hot sauce.

            a casual glance led me to believe that the major difference between hot sauces is the name and label illustration. i mean, there just cannot be that many variations, but i digress.

            while we were in there, we overheard a guy trying to impress his companion by telling her about the hottest pepper in existence – the black habañero.

            how hot is it? i quote, “you need a federal license to grow it”.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Most green chiles are fairly mild. They’re usually sold graded for heat.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I’ve found most of the commercial roasters overcook them, and they end up fairly slimy. The trick-which I learned from a guy roasting on the Guadalupe Reservation, is to roast them REALLY hot, virtually vaporizing the skin, then douse them in ice water to keep them from continuing to cook in their own residual heat.

        • DrBigHead

          That’s a good idea. Gonna try that next time.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Trust me-as Trump would say-it’s the way to go. The chiles stay really firm and meaty, and whatever remains of the skin just peels away with very little effort.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Hatch green chiles are one of the few good things about August.

      • Parakeetist

        I hate August.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      Recipe!
      (Please)

      • Anna Rompage

        I will try to post it later up the thread!

  • AuntyMaude

    Of course the one governor who threatens to sue if Dreamers aren’t crushed under the heel of these professional pigs (a.k.a. politicians) has to be Butch the Otter of IDiotaho. That jackass spends money on cruel, stupid lawsuits (money Idaho can ill afford to waste) but can’t scrounge up the dough to cover the 72,000 Idahoans who have no health insurance. Great way to live out the Catholic ideals of helping the poor and righting social injustice, you fucking dickwich.

    • RMKH

      And in Idaho, he’s a moderate! I know, I used to live there.

      • AuntyMaude

        Congratulations on your departure. Hope you’re in a better state now.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      My favorite part was when he attacked Wasden for not lawyering harder even after Wasden issued opinions plainly asserting the unconstitutionality of the GOPs fuckery.

  • C4TWOMAN

    K, Open Thread…Anyone else affaected by the AvClub Kinjapocalypse
    ?

    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-theavclubafterdark/current_events_av_club_kinjapocalypse/

    I started this Disqus account back when Gotham started airing, and a bunch of us were having fun posting on Av Club as “supervillians” and snarking, and occasionally approving, on the show’s take. (It would be some time before I discovered Wonkette.) The “Riddler’s” comments were particularly golden. I started following other shows reviews until I came to a point a couple months or more back, that I was wasting too much time online(medicating from our national dumpster fire) and I needed to stay away to be more productive.

    And so you can imagine my shock when I checked in yesterday on a “Preacher” review to discover my Disqus account no longer worked there. After some Googleing, I discovered the Kinjapocalypse and as schlocky as it sounds, I feel I’ve lost a community.

    I still love AvClub’s reviews, but now the community is fragmented. Nothing against Kinja, but they refuse to let me claim my legacy disqus account without linking to some damn social media account. The whole point of this account was to post my honest opinions on sci-fi media semi anonymously.

    Moral of the story: never go away from your online community and try to be productive.

    =^-^=
    *sad kitty*

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I know nothing of this. But it sounds unhappy.

      • C4TWOMAN

        It is. :'(
        I’d probably be able to get over it if Kinja wasn’t trying to force me to link to social media. OTOH I guess I could start from scratch with a burner, but after a couple weeks the community has become pretty dead if the threads I checked last night were any indication…

        • WomanInThePersistence

          That’s very sad. What on earth was the AV Club thinking?

          • C4TWOMAN

            One of their moderators was running around reassuring everyone it was fine and they’d help them recover their account, register, yada, yada and I’m sure they were sincere but it’s a disaster.
            I still don’t understand WHY. This happened to Youtube in 2010? 2011?
            They did one last redesign that destroyed channel individuality and the community never recovered.
            In AV CLub’s case maybe they were trying to cut down on trolls? That might be behind the push to link accounts to real life social media? But if that’s the case, they should just say so, IMHO, not trot out a bunch of progressively tissue thin excuses.

    • Well, that makes me happy i haven’t spent anytime on AV Club since Parks & Rec ended

    • Catstro

      I’m not a commenter, but I’m a regular reader and the new layout is garbage. Also, I’m mad that they quit reviewing Baskets with 3 episodes left to go in the season, and I’m sorry you lost your online people.

      • C4TWOMAN

        Thx!
        There might be hope–turns out there are Ac club dedicated Disqus forums….we’ll see.

    • Jamoche

      Sounds like what happened when TWoP got bought.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Chris Christie on Chris Hayes trying to explain how much he differs from Trump while knocking people out of the way in order to be Trump’s designated whipping boy/McDonalds burger gofer. Trump’s ability to get those around them to surrender their dignity is his most notable trait.

  • TootsStansbury

    Is this the start of the death squads? I can`t accept that.

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

      Killjoy.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        This is all going to end violently. We kind of knew that from the start, didn’t we?

        • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

          According to The Hill, televangelist Jim Bakker told audiences of his “Prophecy & End Time News” show that “if [impeachment] happens, there will be a civil war in the United States of America. The Christians will finally come out of the shadows,” Bakker continued.

          (I don’t think he’s doing Christianity right.)

          • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

            my special decoder ring tells me “Christians” means “white people”

  • PigDootsMolloy
  • I firmly believe i would be an excellent megalomaniac

    • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste
    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Like Chuck Mangione?

      • But i have a better rack

      • NorthernSaber

        I have “Live at the Hollywood Bowl” on vinyl. Still wonderful after all these years, and he put the flugelhorn on the map. Never heard he was a megalomaniac, though…

      • Catstro

        Feels so good

  • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶
    • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

      Not mentioned in that tweet is the PARDON FOR ASSANGE they are proposing.

      • jesterpunk

        Even if they pardon Assange it will have no effect in Sweden which is where he will go the second he leaves the embassy basement to stand trial for rape.

        • Bemused Australian

          Assange was never formally charged with rape, and the investigation has been dropped in Sweden. As much as I dislike the prick (having met him doesn’t help), it’s worth getting the facts straight.

          • jesterpunk

            They where only dropped because he is hiding in the basement, the second he leaves they can refile them and charge him.

            https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/19/swedish-prosecutors-drop-julian-assange-investigation

            Swedish prosecutors have dropped their preliminary investigation into an allegation of rape against the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, bringing an end to a seven-year legal standoff.

            The decision was taken after prosecutors concluded that “at this point, all possibilities to conduct the investigation are exhausted”, Sweden’s director of public prosecutions, Marianne Ny, said on Friday.

            “In order to proceed with the case, Julian Assange would have to be formally notified of the criminal suspicions against him. We cannot expect to receive assistance from Ecuador regarding this. Therefore the investigation is discontinued.

            “If he, at a later date, makes himself available, I will be able to decide to resume the investigation immediately.”

          • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

            Actually, it would be HILARIOUS if the US “pardoned” him, because then he’d no longer have that excuse to keep hiding out in the embassy. Which would mean they’d kick him out, and he’d almost certainly end up getting extradited to Sweden (if he didn’t die in a mysterious accident involving several Russians).

          • Bemused Australian

            True, but it was only ever an investigation. There was no charge.

          • jesterpunk

            He also has the UK waiting to arrest him too once he leaves. So even if the US and Sweden dont want him the UK does.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/sweden-drops-assange-prosecution-but-british-police-say-he-still-faces-arrest/2017/05/19/c2059d6a-3c79-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.ef7847e7c3fb

            Swedish prosecutors on Friday dropped their investigation into a rape allegation against Julian Assange, closing a nearly seven-year legal saga that led the WikiLeaks founder to seek sanctuary at the Ecuadoran Embassy in London.

            But British police said that Assange still faces arrest for jumping bail if he walks out of diplomatic protection, which he claims is needed to keep him from being extradited to the United States to face charges of disclosing confidential military and diplomatic documents.

            The Swedish Prosecution Authority said in a statement that Sweden’s director of public prosecution, Marianne Ny, “today decided to discontinue the investigation” into a rape claim against Assange.

            Assange has disputed the rape allegation. He also argued that he risked being extradited by Sweden to the United States and tried for espionage.

            He took refuge in the embassy in 2012.

          • Bemused Australian

            Again, true. But what you initially said was that he’d go on trial for rape in Sweden as soon as he left the embassy. Sorry to be pedantic.

          • jesterpunk

            He will go to trial in Sweden once he leaves unless it’s after the statue of limitations in 2020 which is what he is hoping for.

          • Bemused Australian

            How can he go on trial when there are no charges? Again, sorry to be pedantic, and I can’t stand the fucker either, but he’s one of my fellow citizens so the legal niceties are important to me. He’s essentially ‘wanted for questioning’, and the extradition warrant is based on that.

          • jesterpunk

            I might be reading the article from the Swedish prosecutor wrong, but basically no charges right now because they cant serve him with paperwork establishing charges so he can defend himself. The Equator embassy wont let them serve him either, so once he leaves the UK arrests him then they serve him in UK jail and send him back to Sweden to have a trial.

          • Bemused Australian

            There’s no indication that he’d be charged. While it seems like that’d probably be the case, the Swedish police have never actually indicated an intention to charge him.

          • starfanglednut

            You met him? What’s he like? Did you shower under extra-hot water afterward?

      • Bemused Australian

        Assange didn’t commit a crime in the US’ jurisdiction, so how could he be pardoned?

        • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

          Fucked if I know.

        • shivaskeeper

          Wikileaks dumping US secrets and diplomatic cables was pretty significant. Just because he wasn’t in the US when he did it, does not mean the US IC doesn’t want to have a word with him.

          • Bemused Australian

            Sure, but there’s no indication he committed a crime in the US. I don’t doubt they’d enjoy having words with him, and that’s the basis on which he sought, and received, political asylum from Ecuador.

          • shivaskeeper

            He facilitated the stealing of the data to begin with. Even data taken from military posts overseas was taken form sovereign US soil. That would be technically aiding crimes taking place in the US. That’s not the point though. Espionage does not have to take place within a countries borders for that country to have a say in how it is handled.

            Irregardless, he is not going to be disappeared by the IC. He knows it and Ecuador knows it. He ran from rape charges and bullshitted his way in the door. He most likely has more to fear from the Russians the second he is no longer a useful asset.

            At this point he probably believes his own nonsense though.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      WT actual F

    • Anna Rompage

      And why not our law enforcement or intel agencies?

      Oh that’s right, because this hoofwanking bunglecuck needs to make this political…

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        Because they all already know it was Russia. Fuck those fuckers.

    • BrendaKay

      Everyone involved in that “rendevouz” should be locked up. And keys thrown away.

    • Bemused Australian

      Is he completely insane? Is the president insane? What is happening here?

      Actually, don’t answer, I already know.

      • Me not sure

        When he was a young surfer dude the board must have come down on his head.

    • DrBigHead

      Mr. Mueller on line one for you sir.

      • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

        I’m not sure if Rohrabacher was involved at all with the Trump mess, but since he’s almost openly working for Putin I hope they get him too.

    • jesterpunk

      You know if these Republicans had half a brain they would actually get away with this shit but thankfully they cant shut the fuck up about working for Russia.

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    Because I came back from Alaska, I thought I’d post this. It’s what happens when moose become habituated to people. Do not hand feed them apples and carrots, and do not pose with them for selfies.
    https://youtu.be/2WCiY6xH9F0

    • Werewolf

      Mynd yu, møøse bites kan bi rilli nasti….

      • NorthernSaber

        I knew this was coming…:) The greatest-ever use of “Norwegian” in a comedic role!

    • La forza del resistino

      Thus the term ‘know when to vamoose’ was born.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        It’s just strange to find out that “urban moose” are a thing. They have figured out how to hop fences and get into backyard vegetable gardens. How do you tell a moose to vamoose?

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          Damned urban moose, with their baggy pants and their rap hop music. Thugs is what they are.

          • starfanglednut

            Yeah, and what about moose-on-moose crime?

          • therblig

            hipster moose are worse, with the smell of their artisanal antler wax.

        • La forza del resistino

          my conclusion is that veggie gardens are too much damned work and are now dangerous.

        • Swampgas_Man

          I blame the credits from Northern Exposure.

    • La forza del resistino

      Mooses hate it when you call them Bullwinkle.

    • wobbly

      Actually, many moons ago, ok years, on the trail to Katahdin in Maine, my ex- boyfriend and I came upon a female moose half submerged in a pond, placidly munching whatever they munch. We gave her as wide a berth as we could, given the thickness of the plant life around us. I wish I’d taken a photo, but too late now.

      Anybody who hands feeds a moose is an idiot. They do quite well on their own.

    • The minute those ears are pinned back, it’s too late. He was lucky. I was charged by a cow moose with 2 calves in Alaska as I was walking home from work. My head was down as I was looking lovingly into my can of hickory-smoked almonds, when I heard a rustle, looked up, and my entire visual field was filled with moose. YOOOOGE moose. Her ears were pricked forward in perplexed amazement at this brazen human walking up to her and her babies. Just as my jaw hit the ground, her ears swiveled completely backwards and plastered to her head.
      She was UNBELIEVABLY fast and I lost both my shoes running for my life. I’ve seen my horse try to stomp a dog. It’s terrifying. A moose is worse. They mean business.
      Oh – and although all the almonds flew out as I ran, I never let go of the can.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        Never good to startle any large animal. Was almost stomped to death by a horse in its stall because it true to nip me and I swatted it across the nose. Found out later horse had been abused. Hung on to bits tail to get as close to its hocks as possible as it whirled around and around trying to kick the snot out of me. The one time I saw my life flash before my eyes.

        • GAH! I know that fear!! My mare kicked me and permanently dented my thigh (tore the fascia) years ago being protective of my young gelding. I chased her around the pasture, with my gimpy leg, till she finally stopped and faced me blowing hard – submitting. I walked up to her, then turned and walked away. Anyone who hits a horse under those circumstances doesn’t know horses and will create a neurotic creature. My mare is totally trustworthy.

          • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

            Beating a horse when it is tied up or in a stall and can’t escape is not only incredibly cruel, it’s guaranteed to create a dangerous animal.

          • I have a 30 year-old mini-mule I recently rescued who panics at the site of a pitchfork or shovel. That’s insane. She’s just a little thing and gentle as a lamb. She’s a retiree from the carnival pony-ride. Was horribly neglected with overgrown hooves and mouth ulcers. She has a heart murmur unfortunately and cannot undergo anesthesia safely, but the vet was able to float most of her teeth. She slobbers and foams like a rabid animal when I give her an apple. She’s my naughty girl, always looking for treats. (Notice the tipped over containers)
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43d0b1467356440e1036ad023e13d0f91016505665b47349264498039c01c104.jpg

    • Serai 1

      That there’s a real idiot.

    • therblig

      please subscribe to our channel: fuckingmorons dotcom?

    • Jamoche

      Dear video idiot: If I want to read your wall o’text, I can hit pause. You don’t need to leave them up for 30 seconds each. Also, if you’re going to call it “Moose Charge” then there should be a moose charge. Two minutes of the moose giving you the stinkeye followed by the moose taking half a step before you finally realize how stupid you are and move your ass is false advertising.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        True. If it were a moose charge there wouldn’t be a video. So sorry. I posted it because it was a moose who was clearly used to being hand fed. Looking for his apple. Moose practically had a frickn toll booth.

  • wobbly

    My daughter-in-law, born in Trinidad and brought to this country at the age of 17 by her parents on a tourist visa which they overstayed…

    My daughter-in-law is a good person. She keeps my son happy. I’m glad he married her. Thanks to that marriage, she now has a green card.

    She is flying back to NYC this week to try to “straighten out” her mother’s “immigration status”…that is, keep her from being deported.

    I literally do not know what to say to say to her, but it’s mostly to say “I’m sorry.”

    I am sorry this country’s immigration laws are so cruel. It’s my impression that they were not always this way-I think they took a turn for the worse under Reagan, but I may be wrong.

    Anyway, she and her entire family work hard, pay taxes, never took a dime in “benefits”, and now have to worry being treated like garbage.

    Forgive me for not rising to the occasion to chant “USA! USA!

    • Me not sure

      Best of luck to your daughter-in-law.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      9-11 didn’t help either. I get furious when people seem to think that getting legal status means going to the post office and filling out a few papers.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        my prof was telling us last week in immigration law class that this area of law is NOT something one “dabbles in.” He says some baby lawyers talk about then and then realize it’s fucking complicated.

    • OutOfOrbit

      this is the perfect time and place for “USA! USA! USA!” cuz irony

    • janecita

      Was her mother arrested by
      ICE already? She might have a better chance if immigration never detained her. One of my good friends is Mexican, and he used these lawyers for his legalization process. Good luck!

      https://www.wildeslaw.com/

    • Serai 1

      You’re not wrong. We used to welcome people.

    • They were even more cruel to some groups of people before. We’re just getting back to it, it would seem :/ The new cruelty is a rehash of the old.

  • bookish

    Thank god he mostly stayed out of the way. But he’ll be back.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/29/opinion/trump-ego-harvey-floods.html

    “Even experts have said they’ve never seen one like this!” Trump marveled on Twitter, and I read exultation into that not because I’m sour on the president but because I have eyes. Also because I have a memory. He has used almost exactly those words to describe a buffet of developments in his rise and reign, always with an air of self-impressed wonder.

    I keep hoping against hope that a new challenge will tease out a new Trump and that if he malingers in the presidency long enough, he’ll meander in the direction of eloquence, slouch toward poetry and tumble into inspiration. Stranger things have happened. I’ll have to get back to you on what they were.

    • Serai 1

      No way. He’s going to be a petulant brat until the day he dies.

  • Picabo

    HPD officer drowned trying to get to work.
    https://twitter.com/AP/status/902614336765616132

  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
    • janecita

      What’s happening in 17 days??

      • Trump is being deported? (We can hope, can’t we?)

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        Melons leaves Trump for that guy?

        • janecita

          Who could blame her?

          • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

            I would stop blaming her, and maybe even respect her a little, if she did.

          • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

            Several Wonkers would be deeply alarmed, though!

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        The Coming of my Avatar.

  • CO

    White House visitors find photos of Trump’s hands unappetizing

    Recent White House guests were baffled by rather large and unappetizing photos of the President posted along the hallway leading to the “White House mess” that seem to emphasize the President’s famously little hands.

    “If you’re a VIP and you’re visiting the White House, sometimes you’re taken by aides to the White House mess,” explains one of those VIPs. “It’s not the formal dining room or the family dining room. It’s where you might go if you’re lunching with a cabinet member or general.”

    We’re told that en route to that room, guests first pass through a hall of stately portraits of past Presidents. But in the final stretch leading to the mess, there’s a series of portraits that seem to focus on President Trump’s hands, including one that our spy says is “by no means a tiny photo,” spotlighting The Donald’s wee mitts, about which he’s very sensitive. In that photo, Trump’s left-hand fingertips are pressed against his right-hand fingertips, both resting atop a shiny executive desk, which reflects that image.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/white-house-visitors-find-photos-trump-hands-unappetizing-article-1.3452902

    • Claire

      Jesus. I just don’t even have words for how much I hate this guy. He’s crazier than a goddamn bedbug.

    • Serai 1

      Christ, what a petty brat.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      As the psychiatrist in an old “Fawlty Towers” episode once said of Basil:
      “There’s enough there for an entire convention…”

    • WomanInThePersistence

      “The White House mess”. Wouldn’t that be current administration?

    • jesterpunk

      Not really surprising, he is still mad Spy Magazine printed an article in the 80s calling him a short fingered vulgarian.

      https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/10/graydon-carter-donald-trump

      Like so many bullies, Trump has skin of gossamer. He thinks nothing of saying the most hurtful thing about someone else, but when he hears a whisper that runs counter to his own vainglorious self-image, he coils like a caged ferret. Just to drive him a little bit crazy, I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.

    • hahahahha more hand jokes, guys!

    • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

      I am becoming increasingly convinced that this is the Matrix, and it’s developing several alarming bugs.

  • Juan de Fuca

    Ruh Roh!

    Mattis freezes transgender policy; allows troops to continue serving, pending study.

    WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Jim Mattis late Tuesday announced that transgender troops will be allowed to continue serving in the military pending the results of a study by experts.
    The announcement follows an order from President Trump — first announced in a tweet — declaring that transgender service members can no longer serve in the military, effectively reversing an Obama administration policy. The order also affects the Department of Homeland Security, which houses the Coast Guard.
    “Once the panel reports its recommendations and following my consultation with the secretary of Homeland Security, I will provide my advice to the president concerning implementation of his policy direction,” Mattis said in the statement. “In the interim, current policy with respect to currently serving members will remain in place.”

    Good cop/Bad cop or did Mattis have a sit-down with Donald? Stand by to stand by…

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mattis-orders-pentagon-to-allow-transgender-troops-to-continue-serving-pending-study/ar-AAqX5NJ?ocid=spartandhp

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      good on ’em.

      • Juan de Fuca

        There’s hope but not sure if it’s going to change anything in the end. On one hand at least Mattis is putting the brakes temporarily but this is also how things are done when implementing new policy. So, we’ll see.

        The bottom line is this should’ve never been an issue to begin with. If you can do the job, meet the same basic requirements such as education, pass criminal background checks, have the aptitude and fitness scores etc. you deserve the same opportunity to serve. In any MOS or AFSC (career field).

        • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

          I has my fingers crossed that Mattis is using this as a ploy to delay, and when the “expert panel” reports, “we’re cool with the trans” that that will be the end of it.

          • Juan de Fuca

            It could go down like that. Fingers crossed.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i’m not so optimistic, donnie has no heart or principles, he’ll spike it just to be a dick and whip up the base.

        • jesterpunk

          The pentagon already did a long study and found no issues which is why it took affect recently. So I really don’t see another study done by the same people will change the results.

          • Maybe Matty boy will release the original study and go see, we studied it, all done! And Trumpkin will be all wow man, that was fast, bet a lot of people don’t know this

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      The head of the Coast Guard said in no uncertain terms that he would back his trans service members.

    • Jamoche

      Didn’t they just have a study?

      • Juan de Fuca

        The RAND Corp recently did one for the DoD and it’s referenced at the end of the article. Their finding was pretty much – “Let ’em serve.”

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      Go fuck yourself – Donnie Bonespurs

    • Mattis went more fuck you, a soldier is a soldier, like he OUGHT to do. Because there were already grumblings in the ranks of “Who is next to go?”

  • Anna Rompage

    Just a heads up… it looks like I have a new secret admirer from the Atlantic named DiegoVan that’s following me around.

    While they are not of the caliber of troll as say, the Turgid Love Muscle, he/she/it is a libertarian, and has some pretty whacky views…

    Go easy on them unless they troll the site, and don’t give them too much slack either…

    • C4TWOMAN

      DiegoVan—there’s several puns in there somewhere…

      • La forza del resistino

        A southern California custom paint shop for Plymouth Voyagers? Or a male stripper.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Why not both?

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        His cousin is TacoTruck?

        I’m bad, and I admit it.

      • Juan de Fuca

        I keep on getting him mixed up with the uncle from Napoleon Dynamite who could throw a football over a mountain and the Dora the Explorer’s super cool cousin.

    • Some avatars are just too cute to resist?

    • Bemused Australian

      So don’t hog tie and ball gag him, then administer a spanking with a copy of The Constitution of Liberty? Got it.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I got your back.

    • mmmm I love the taste of libertarian in the evening….

      I mean, what? Oh, new friend? I shall be ever so kind and helpful!

    • Serai 1
  • mancityRed6

    good lord almighty, it was a long damn day. I am so ready for bed.
    I learned my lesson the hard way, do not buy sheets based on thread counts. the top sheet just slides all over the place. well, according to how I’m sleeping nowadays. I spin that thing like I’m tossing pizza dough.
    they’re really not worth it.

    • OutOfOrbit

      hospital corners

      • mancityRed6

        oh dear lord…that first night at boot camp when it was about midnight and they give us two flat sheets to make the bed with.
        yeah, well, those four hours still flew by.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Somehow I’ve completely repressed the memories of making bed in boot camp…

          Will never forget waking up the first day, on the top bunk, to glaring lights tho….

          • mancityRed6

            that trash can…and I was only there for a couple of weeks. the departing company was just bad.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Supposedly where it’s from and the staple length are better to base your decision. Egyptian and American cotton are supposed to be best. I like fleece sheets, but not in 110 degree weather.

      • mancityRed6

        I gotta say regular fitted and t-shirt material flat sheet. or vice versa.
        but not whole t-shirt material. they stick together.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Oh but fleece is perfect in the winter—so cozy!

          • mancityRed6

            the last ex didn’t understand flannel sheets.
            and this last winter, even with the thermostat at 60, my duvet was more than enough.

          • C4TWOMAN

            I have a heated mattress pad now–only $5 at a yard sale. It makes all the difference. Hardly turn the heat up unless it’s getting in the 30s/0s outside.

          • mancityRed6

            the duvet I have is the “fall” duvet. it has velcro to attach it to the “summer” duvet to make it the “winter” duvet.
            yeah, I was confused, too.
            the thing is, it’s warm enough for me.

          • Dudleydidwrong

            Amen and hallelujah for the heated mattress pad. Love mine. Hope there’s an electrical outlet nearby when they drop me 6′ down.

          • mancityRed6

            the old house, I actually wore my union suit to bed a few times.

    • Flannel. Lighter flannel for hot months. You shall not slide and the sweat shall be wisked.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      Get the good stuff. Yeah, they’re expensive as all fuck, but they’re comfortable as a cloud and they’ll last you 10 years.

      • mancityRed6

        nope, see that’s kind of…well, ok, way better than what I have now. but still the same.
        so long as it’s not actual sandpaper, I’m good with it.
        and, you’re talking to a guy who still has a tank top he won 21 years ago, so…yeah.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          lol, i have my high school graduation t-shirt, that thing is also old enough to drink.

          I have drama dept. shirts for plays that are older than that (but I never wear those).

  • Picabo
    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      I have nothing snarky to say.

      God bless <3

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        I got a hearty laugh out of mr. when I showed him this, he said, “awww” and I said, yeah, even my wonkers have nothing snarky to say.

    • La forza del resistino

      Baking a good, fresh bolillo roll is citizenship worthy

  • Rick Hill
  • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

    Open Thread Funtime (because we need it):

    This is a Python-themed t-shirt created by a graphic artist. How many icons can you identify?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c2eec93b1334ee06dd1845bec94b5301322a3134b394b51b57f0f1a43eb4f37.jpg

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Far too many. *goes and reconsiders certain life choices*

      Nah.

      https://youtu.be/-ECUtkv2qV8

      • For life’s a piece of shit, when you look at it.
        Amen, Eric.

      • (((Alt-Sedagive)))

        Just letting my geek flag fly…

    • Serai 1

      Too hard to make a lot of them out.

  • Raan

    “Yeah! Schindler-Schindler’s at the end crying and he’s taking off his jewelry, and he just gives it to this old Jewish lady and says ‘This one’s for you, Morph!'” – Pat

  • FDRliberal

    Trump always needs an occasional polite reminder.

    https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/902221835202420737

  • CO
    • Swampgas_Man

      I only wish the old “usual gang of idiots” were still here and alive to deal with Trump. Bill Gaines’ bunch would be hitting him harder than they hit Nixon.

      • mancityRed6

        HST from the early ’70s would have had him crying by now.

        • Wild Cat

          Taibbi is such a pale and cruel imitation of Thompson.

          • amrak63

            Ratt Taibbi isn’t fit to clean HST’s sunglasses.

            Also, Taibbi really went out of his way to deny the stories of Russian interference in our elections. Taibbi spent a lot of time in Russia in his younger days. I wonder if Putin has some video evidence on Taibbi?

            Maybe Taibbi likes pee hookers, too.

            Or maybe Taibbi likes ’em young–REALLY young.

            Or maybe Taibbi (fill in whatever perversion you find most disgusting here)

            As Our Lady of Perpetual Inebriation might say, it would be irresponsible NOT to speculate…

          • mancityRed6

            there are a lot of imitators out there, but few can manage the typewriter like he could at his prime.

      • Wild Cat
        • Little Lulu Ω

          “Satire!”

      • Wild Cat

        In 1972, their back cover fold-in showed McGovern and Nixon to be equally bad.
        I’m glad I was ready to wank . . . uhm, read to National Lampoon by Nixon’s second term. Mad really missed the mark on that one. And a lot of other things about the “Counterculture.”
        Kurtzman was the smart one, not Gaines.

      • OutOfOrbit

        apoplogies 4 spellos:
        Walter Cronkite
        Roger Mudd
        Eric Severide
        Huntly &
        Hinkly
        Peter Jennings
        et al

        • mancityRed6

          oh, you mean when the news was the news?

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          I always remember this one:

          “Irving R. Levine, NBC News, Washington.”

          That bald guy with a bow tie.

          Funny what shit you remember when you are an oldz.

      • Serai 1

        I wish Carlin was still around to give us his take on all this.

        • Swampgas_Man

          You know Carlin would be bitching as much about the left as the right.

          • Serai 1

            Yeah, so? We needed his bitching. One thing about us on the left, we do tend to pat ourselves on the back and get snotty about how great we are. We need someone like Carlin to take us down a peg or two.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Of course he did. They are at war. I’m just surprised there are so few people who realize that we are their enemy.

      • No, we are not ALL the enemy.
        Just the ones who did not vote for him, don’t defend his every blunder and worse, don’t show up at rallies for him.
        There will be loyalty papers to go along with the oath.

    • Permit-holder Ron

      DAMN, Richard Williams is GOOD.

    • Serai 1

      Because we don’t have enough racist cops maddened by a surplus of lethal gear.

    • Paul

      What’s the problem? That kid has a hoodie on his lap.

      Know what makes me so sad about this? That’s Joe’s Diner in Lee, Mass. and I eat there on occasion. Rockwell lived down the road in Stockbridge, where his museum is now.

  • Serai 1

    Finished binging Psych. What a fucking great show. There’s a TV movie coming this December, and apparently the showrunner has five more in the works, to be released yearly.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a9d29ee7385359b1c79246ae2de8673429dbff2e7dce3a2540ac75471ed29f15.gif

    • Dude had some dance training. I see him spotting as he spins

      • He will always be Charlie, Jed Bartlett’s body man

        • Serai 1

          I was delighted to discover his comedy chops after those years on WW.

      • Serai 1

        They’re both good dancers. Roday surprised me in the musical episode.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      I binged Handmaid’s Tale, finishing a few days ago. I had the worst dreams of living in a horrible alternative reality. Oh, wait ….

      • persistently_resistant_gayby

        Hahahaha – what’s the difference anymore, hahahahahaha…..

      • 🐶 BRAINTHRUST 5000 🐶

        I binge-played a video game – Agents of Mayhem – which involves a lot of leaping of tall buildings, and had the most terrible vertigo dreams afterwards (I also had this with the game Prototype).

        Also I was going to make the same joke as PRG but too late now.

    • RobKanC

      Man, I miss their shenanigans. But I did felt that they were running out of material at the end.. But great show nonetheless.. Jules is my absolute favorite..

      • Serai 1

        Roday said they ended the show because they’d said all they had to say and did everything they really wanted to do. It’s good they didn’t overstay their welcome. Now it’ll always be fondly remembered.

  • Picabo
    • La forza del resistino

      why does water snakes come to mind. maybe floating fire ant colonies as a backup plan.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    A half-million flooded cars and trucks could be scrapped after Harvey

    Donnie Two Scoops declares he’s creating jerbs in … 3 … 2 … 1 …

    • mancityRed6

      “scrapped”, yeah.
      don’t fall for a cheap used car in the next year or so.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Used-car values are already close to a record high, and Mannheim Auto Auctions says prices could climb even higher over the next couple of weeks due to the tighter supply.

        • mancityRed6

          in the UK, they actually had to make it against the law to cut two cars in half (one wrecked in front, the other wrecked in back) and weld them together.
          it’s not above the insurance companies to dry them out and sell them elsewhere. it happens. do a VIN check.

        • jesterpunk

          Hey that is 30 minutes from me, cant wait to see how many cars from Texas show up at the auction in the next few years.

      • Shanzgood

        Not even just in Texas.

      • shivaskeeper

        I was just going to say 100K or so will end up as salvage sales.

  • Relativicus

    What The Media won’t report is this is just more evidence as to how Trump is actually the LEAST Nazi president ever. Those fuckers loved to keep records.

    • amrak63

      That amazes me about the OG Ratzis.

      They kept meticulous records of their atrocities, as if they expected them to be proudly recounted as deeds of virtue at some point in the future.

      Over-confidence is one of the greatest weaknesses of any fascists, anytime, anywhere.

      • Permit-holder Ron

        That was it exactly. Remember, they had zero doubts that they were ushering the worldwide Thousand Year Reich, right up until almost the end.

    • Ten bucks Trump Co has meticulous records also.
      They’re buried and behind lead or something, but they exist.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Maybe the NAZIs learned from past experience?

      I know, it’s hard to imagine those scumbags actually learning anything. But hey, if it furthers their evil, I wouldn’t put it past them. Not one fucking gottdamned bit.

  • shivaskeeper

    I have to correct an erroneous statement I made last night. I said Joel Osteen and his flock wouldn’t open up the doors to the megachurch without some sort of financial gain to him involved. I said that shame by itself wouldn’t be enough.

    I was wrong. Public, nationwide shame, was enough to get the doors opened.

    I apologize, but only provisionally. I have a feeling he is going to be making some insurance claims about storm refugees damaging his church, or making clams to FEMA for reimbursements far beyond anything he did, or allowed to be done on his property.

    The second he profits a thin fucking dime off of this, the second the apology is revoked and he confirms himself to be the greedy asshole we all know he is.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I would like to forgive you, but I’ve been reviewing your file and it doesn’t look like you’ve been particularly generous this quarter.

    • RobKanC

      You mean trying to stop money from flowing out because of internet shaming couldn’t be a good financial reason?

      • shivaskeeper

        No, it is not. His Prosperity Gospel followers aren’t going to stop giving him money. I discounted that from even happening.

        Knowing what I know about these grifters, he didn;t open the doors unless there was serious financial gain to be had.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Yes! Thank you!

          Osteen was not shamed into doing a gottdamned thing!

    • mancityRed6

      so, 3, 2, 1…yesterday?

      • shivaskeeper

        Doors were locked yesterday.

        • mancityRed6

          yeah, but if he wasn’t fund raising about it then, I’d be surprised.

          • shivaskeeper

            He was. Some sort of half assed charity setup. Give to his church and he will see the deserving get the money. That sort of thing.

          • mancityRed6

            just like tRump, he’ll find a way to make a profit off of this.

          • He was fund raising before he opened the doors. That is what got people to poke at him

          • mancityRed6

            do I know my fundamentals or not?

    • amrak63

      Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day, many will say to me, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?” Then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.”

      Matthew 7:21-23 (NRSV)

      • WomanInThePersistence

        The furniture store guy in Houston is in.

        • shivaskeeper

          Pretty much.

      • Serai 1

        Jesus had a real problem with people who ran around yelling about how holy they were. I imagine he still has the same problem. But somehow it’s just not important to his stalkers.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        The evilangelical christain trash don’t read their own buybull.

    • Wolf Tracker

      ” he confirms himself to be the greedy asshole we all know he is.”

      Doesn’t the fact he lives in a mansion already confirm that?

      • Jeffocaster in the West

        Yes.

      • shivaskeeper

        Yes it does. Perhaps the snark was too subtle.

        • Wolf Tracker

          I’m old. That is my excuse.

      • amrak63

        I remember many years ago, seeing a news report about Jimmy Swaggart being found out. It showed him blubbering, “AH HAVE SINNED AGAINST YEW!”, and I felt sorry for him for a few seconds–then the story switched to a picture of the mansion he lived in, and I was quite ready to throw him to the lions.

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      He is an asshole. He will gain from this with his flock. Maybe a new Ferrari. I am sure you are right there a claims being made for insurance and with FEMA. Regardless, he doesn’t stop being an asshole, like Falwell and the rest.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        ^^^^^^^^1000 times this!

    • Did he actually let people in, however?

      • shivaskeeper

        I think so. He also opened the huge ass church parking lot as a staging area to allow donation trucks to drop things off so they could be sorted out and sent back out to where they were needed.

    • Serai 1

      The fact that he had to be shamed into it means he doesn’t deserve an apology. He’s only doing it because people are talking shit about him, not because he gives a flying fuck about any of these unfortunate people.

      • shivaskeeper

        It was snark.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Osteen wasn’t shamed into opening his doors. He is incapable of feeling shame. Otherwise, he would have a different schtick. He merely stalled until he could come up with a plan to profit from the disaster.

      Wake up people!

      • shivaskeeper

        Just to be clear, that was snark. I really have nothing but contempt for the Prosperity Gospel grifters.

    • shivaskeeper

      Reply to myself.

      It seems I may have been to subtle in my utter contempt for Olsteen and his Prosperity Gospel ilk. The other statement was weapons grade snark with some black humor tossed in for leavening.

  • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

    Just got home from a vacation with my brother and I am devastated. My big brother, the one I’ve looked up to for as long as I can remember is a Trump supporter. He’s 4 years older than I.

    I don’t know how this happened. He was the one who taught me what it meant to be a progressive. When I was just a high school kid he was one of the protestors arrested at the ’68 Chicago Democratic convention. He marched for civil rights. He campaigned for Bobby Kennedy. He was a social worker living from paycheck to paycheck. Now, at the age of 70, he’s a Fox News junkie and says stuff like “all lives matter”.

    I still love him. But I’m finding it very hard to like him anymore.

    • Wild Cat

      What other media does he take in? I’m fascinated by right-wing mass brainwashing and how it breaks down.

      • mancityRed6

        dad is a lefty, we complain about what tRumps doing everytime we talk.
        mom isn’t political.
        it took about 5 minutes after dad switched to fox news for her to say the equivalent of “what the fuck?”
        full disclosure, she is a psychologist.

        • Wild Cat

          It’s crack for logic. The barrage of wingnut media has crushed this country.

      • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

        Not sure. After the first day we agreed not to talk politics. It was a long week and I had no internet connection so I couldn’t even get my Wonkette fix.

        • Wild Cat

          We’ve always been dumb and anti-intellectual, but since the late 1980s I’ve never seen anything like this. My annual European trip is coming up. They don’t have shit like this. They know how tribalism fucks things up.

    • shivaskeeper

      People tend to get more conservative as they get older. Not everyone, to be sure, but a lot of people. As a whole, people tend to thikk everything was better back in the day, so they want to make it like it was back in the day.

      Plus Fox News is information warfare pretty much right out of the manual on how to conduct it. It’s subtle, it’s insidious, and it;s had to spot unless you know what you are looking at. If you can get him away from that bullshit in particular, he might come back to sanity.

      Edit: because I missed half a sentence.