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Happy Women’s Equality Day! Sort of! Today celebrates the anniversary of the ratification of the 19th Amendment, which we all know as the amendment that gave women the right to vote. Technically. If you were a white woman. If you were a black woman living in the South, you likely had to wait a few more decades before the Voting Rights Act of 1965 before you actually got to cast one. America!

Anyway, as you might imagine, this holiday is a thing that the Conservative women of Twitter have something very stupid to say about. Namely that they most certainly will not be celebrating the ratification of the 19th Amendment until those mean liberals show some respect to Conservative women. Or something! Also they don’t even NEED the right to vote, because they are strong and independent. Or something.

Many other tweets, by the way, included a healthy dose of fat shaming along with their demands that feminists celebrate ALL women, including those who think it would be a swell idea for them to have fewer rights, and those who voted for a man who openly bragged about assaulting women.

This is, of course, a deliberate misreading of feminism. Much like the “if you’re so tolerant, why won’t you tolerate my intolerance!” crap. Actual feminism is, of course, very different from the Spice Girls GIRL POWER crap, and no, we have no obligation to think every woman is super swell and great while she’s out there trying to make life harder for the rest of us. Ahem, Ivanka.

Despite the fact that conservatives routinely scream about how mad they are about “Identity Politics” — they love, love, love a token. They love the idea of going “We found a woman who thinks Donald Trump is not sexist, which is all the proof you need to know that he is not sexist. And you HAVE to believe her and celebrate her opinion because she is a woman.” Which, contrary to what Republicans think, is not actually how we operate.

True equality means that we can judge a woman’s shitty opinions just as harshly as we would a man’s shitty opinions. Giving someone who says awful things a pass just because they are a woman isn’t feminism, it’s chivalry. Which, you should know, is not exactly a popular idea among feminists.

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  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

    First?

  • miss_grundy

    How about conservative women not being bitchy toward liberal women? They are the ones who seem to have the most problems with women being empowered to make their own choices.

  • CindyinEncinitas
  • Mystery_Poster

    The 19th amendment doesn’t even use the word “women.”

    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

    Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

  • WomanInThePersistence
  • JMP

    Conservatism means you are not an independent thinker; it’s kind of hard to do so when you embrace a dogmatic authoritarian ideology that condemns thinking for yourself.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      “human consciousness did not begin far back in animal evolution but is a learned process”
      http://www.julianjaynes.org/bicameralmind.php

      • CindyinEncinitas

        Thank you, frontal lobes!

        • yyyaz

          There’s a cure for those.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Voting republican?

  • folderol

    Speaking as an average white male, I’ll take whatever feminist position, pro or con, radical or orthodox, that gets me laid.

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    Remember when conservatives used to claim to be tough and not whiny little fucks?

    Pepperidge Farm doesn’t remember either because they’ve always been a bunch of pansies.

  • yyyaz

    “Liberals proclaim loudly how they love all men and women. Yet look how we’re treated!”
    — A. Hitler and associates

  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
  • WomanInThePersistence
  • JMP

    It’s really pathetic how conservatives try and conflate criticism of individual women for the horrible things they actually do and say with sexism; and it shows that they don’t even understand or care about what misogyny is, because they in fact support it. The same goes with racism, of course.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Ironically, that’s… collectivism. #NotAllWomen are Ann Coulter. In fact, #MostWomenAreNot.

  • Picabo

    Periscope video from a storm chaser, Last 7 minutes shows what it is like to be in the eye wall of a hurricane.
    https://www.pscp.tv/Jeff_Piotrowski/1zqKVRbYXWWKB

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      The eye of a hurricane is calm, peaceful, downright tranquil, even, and that million-car freight train endlessly circling the horizon will drive you batshit. Does me, anyway. Probably because I (well, and my Mom and sis too) got off a train in FL in 1950, an the age of 1, into the eye of a ‘cane. That memory stayed buried until 1983, when I found myself in the eye of Hurricane Alicia, and it all came back. Oddly enough, 25 years later, Ike wasn’t so bad. Guess Alicia took off the jinx. Some of it anyway…

  • Nounverb911

    Okay, I’m showing my age, but as a 16 year old, I thoroughly enjoyed the Womens Lib demonstrations….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HWZw0rzJWM

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Old enough to remember cartoons about bra burning in Mad or Cracked. And “women’s libbers” and “male chauvinist pig”.

  • yyyaz

    Somepony send these whiners their participation ribbons.

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    DANGERBOAT!

    Yes, you should go binge The Tick.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    “Conservative” women are all butt hurt. Surprise surprise surprise!

  • mrFawkes

    I will celebrate Womens Equality Day by paying every man ( I owe money) 78 cents on the dollar and every woman (I owe money) 122 cents on the dollar.

  • CO
    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      From his trunk to gawd’s ears.

  • WomanInThePersistence
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Conservative women don’t need this hashtag

    Which explains why you felt compelled to use it as well as to explain its existence away. Logic!

    • Perkniticky

      Exactly – they need it to whinily call attention to themselves.

    • jesterpunk

      They are doing the same thing they always do and try and coop a hashtag to make it about themselves. I would be willing to put money on the fact that most of them are actually MRA’s.

      • Catstro

        Like they’re pretending to be “conservative women”? Because I promise you these women exist in fucking droves down south. My sister is one and it is tiresome.

  • Lord Jim

    “I don’t agree with a word you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” – Voltaire

    THAT is how feminists roll. Do “conservatives” believe in free speech? How many times has Ann Coulter called for the death of liberals?

  • Nounverb911

    Okay, I hope this is a coincidence, but today is #Nationaldogday too, also.

    https://twitter.com/heyitzkio/status/901538533281849344

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    What this country needs are more 19th Amendment solutions.

    • Three Finger Salute

      It seems a lot of people since November 9th have been seeking 21st Amendment solutions…

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Women’s Equality Day would be a downgrade. You’re already far superior to men in my book.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    BTW, righties, we can just as easily turn this around on you assholes when it comes to being patriotic Americans. Do we count as loyal citizens if we value American principles over the current lunatic occupying the White House?

  • jesterpunk

    ..Before you ask 132 IQ.

    “People who boast about their I.Q. are losers.”

    ― Stephen Hawking

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      But are you boasting?

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      I thought it was Aristotle who said that.

    • BloviateMe

      Mine is a gentlemen’s 82.

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Hi George! Slow painting day?

        • BloviateMe

          Hi! Pull my finger.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Mine’s 100, but I always forget if that’s octal or hexadecimal.

    • aktlib101

      13.2 IQ.
      FIFH

    • Three Finger Salute

      Trump says his is 170. I think he confused it with the year his party wants America to return to.

      • That was the IQ of the kid who did all his homework in college.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Mines is eleventy billion, but you don’t hear me brag about it.

  • BloviateMe

    Well, it sounds like you liberal women are just downright mean. You should quit being mean to those poor women, and just be friends.

    And stop trying to make fetch happen.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Read that as “felch”

      DO. NOT. WANT.

      • BloviateMe

        True story I didn’t even make up: at work, we have a customer with the last name of Felch. I first heard one of my sales guy’s say it, and did a double take. None of my group knew the word. I’m pretty vulgar at work, but even I couldn’t explain it, i had them google it on their phones. It was fun to watch their faces as they read it.

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        Stop trying to make felch happen is a good rule to live by…

  • WomanInThePersistence
  • Scooby

    Hey, I’m equal to my Trump loving neighbor but he is still a dumbass and I tell him to shut up all the time.

  • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

    “The last time anybody went in to see the gold, other than the Fort Knox people, was in 1974 when there was a congressional visit,” Mnuchin said.

    Mnuchin said there’s a reason why he needed the see the gold in person.

    “I have to attest that the gold is part of our national assets, and we have approximately $200 billion of gold at Fort Knox,” he said.

    Those eclipse glasses in McTurtle’s hand spell, you’re a fucking L-I-A-R. Besides, you have to attest but no other Treasury Sec since 1974 had to? We’re not that stupid, Steve.

    http://wdrb.images.worldnow.com/images/14721478_G.jpg

    • Rick Hill

      I’d have checked his pockets on the way out, just so we can attest to his honesty.

      Fcking idolater, had to see all that gold for hisself. Either that or he had to check to see if there was enough gold on hand to make all those solid gold statues of donald that the next EO was going to call for.

    • Sophia

      How could he see something that’s not there? Isn’t one of the RWNJ conspiracy theories the fact that there really is no gold in Fort Knox?

      • Rick Hill

        I wouldn’t doubt that he’s on to it and wanted a “gotcha!”. Of course this means nothing. Maybe there’s only gold on the outer layer and underneath it’s just bricks. I bet he will go back and he and trump will talk about it,drool from the corner of their mouths, rubbing at their pants. Anyone want to bet trump makes a visit, too? Of course, it would be sekrit so we wouldn’t hear about it.

    • Scooby

      I’ll bet they jizzed on the gold.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Local Gold People?

  • Panika MCD

    how is wearing a pink hat not allowing conservative women to celebrate the ratification of the 19th Amendment? it’s not like they can’t equally wear their Nancy Reagan red blazers today…

    • jesterpunk

      Its a zero sum game for them, if someone has rights it takes rights away from someone else.

      • yyyaz

        Smrt.

      • Panika MCD

        pink pussy hats steal red blazers with gaudy lapel pins? I’m going to need to see an artistic rendering of this.

        • jesterpunk

          I don’t understand their so called logic to explain why it makes sense to them but somehow it does.

          • Lord Jim

            I am, therefore shut the fuck up. Basically that.

          • Panika MCD

            and I demand an artistic rendering of it if they’re going to continue to use it.

          • jesterpunk

            What about an interpretive dance too? That could be even funnier.

          • Panika MCD

            that would meet the definition of “artistic rendering”.

          • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

            Every interpretive dance I’ve ever seen was a story about someone beating a goose with a golf club…not a great story, IMO…

        • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

          We could call that guy that paints those tacky, intellectually and emotionally dishonest paintings that are supposed to show how bad democrats are…I’m sure he could whip something up in a jif…

          • Panika MCD

            he does paintings of how jesus founded the country. not sure he’s up to the challenge.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      My guess is that she is referring to the pussy hats. Which apparently oppress her.

      • Panika MCD

        I know, but how would that prevent her from celebrating?

        • Lord Jim

          It offends her, ergo she should not have to see it. A privilege which does not attach to other kinds of people.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          It wouldn’t. She’s a very delicate hothouse flower who is oppressed by people disagreeing with her. She also apparently doesn’t understand how free speech works.

          • Panika MCD

            or clothing for that matter.

    • yyyaz

      I was going to say I miss the days when Mrs. Gobblecocks and her WH astrologer were the craziest people to deserve a little attention. Then I remembered her husband and how the shitstorm we’re riding out now began with him and his mangy retinue of enablers.

      • Marion in Savannah

        Oh, my… I have to admit that “Mrs. Gobblecocks” made me snort and howl in a most unladylike manner.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          It was a comment of the day from someone whose name I forget.

          “Mrs Gobblecocks, take down those balls!”

        • Bobathonic

          She had a certain set of skills…

      • SayItWithWookies

        There better not be a worse one coming along. I thought the last one was going to be the worst ever, and I’ve learned my lesson — but damn, there better not be.

      • Three Finger Salute

        I said it to my mother recently:

        This disgraceful precedent where America degrades the WH by merging it with Hollywood (and now, pro wrestling) was set when we elected a B-movie cowboy who had a monkey for a sidekick… twice.

        My mother’s response?

        “That’s not a nice thing to say about Nancy.”

        Then she apologized to Bonzo. “God rest his soul.”

    • Lord Jim

      Love the pic of Phylis Schlafly, who basically advocated that women should not be as independent, powerful, and outspoken as she was.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        I always thought Phylis was an XY in drag, rather than an XX with a particularly big mouth.

      • onedollarjuana

        Same for Dr. Laura.

  • Me The People

    You can tell conservative women are the ones who really care about womens equality by the way they bristle with hostility and indignation at the mention of womens equality.

  • Three Finger Salute

    Social media really has unleashed the demons of stupidity from the extremists. This ranks up there with the immature Tumblristas calling for Sophie Trudeau’s head on Int’l Women’s Day because she said male allies were important. This has always been their message, that they have an equal partnership as a marriage and emphasize the importance of feminism for their sons too. All it did was feed into MRAs calling for Justin’s head again for being a “cuck.”

    Reminds me of all the purists who wouldn’t vote for Hillary because she “betrayed feminism” by not divorcing Bill. Well, congratulations. Now you’ve got a rapist and pussygrabber in the White House. Keep up the #ShutUpSophie business up north, and you’ll get a prairie fundamentalist fanatic moving in at 24 Sussex. Happy now? Assholes…

    All that being said, I do wish I was movie-star pretty and “bikini-worthy.” It’s always been a source of insecurity for me and one of the reasons I hide behind a computer screen. I’m not grotesque, but I’m not “a 10” either. I’ve even said that I’d happily shave off 30 IQ points if it meant I could trade them in and lose as many pounds. I’ve already lost that over the summer (not intelligence points, but poundage), but I’m still not exactly where I want to be. Clearly, I’m still literate, too, and apparently that’s a liability in America today. At least if I looked like a Stepford Foxbot, I could get away with acting dumb — just like the intellectuals and “cosmopolitan-biased elites” did in, oh, some other country awhile back…

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Please don’t act dumb … it’s one of the few things, along with hypocrisy, that really, really pisses me off. There is no reason for it.

      Oh, and BTW? I’m a svelte, six-pack ab move star also too. /s

      • Msgr_MΩment

        <<<<<< seven pack.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Haha. Made my day ☺️

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Smart is sexxy, and people who can converse will always be attractive.

          Which is why Coulter comes across as a harpy: she talks down to people.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      I am bikini-read already.

      For radio.

  • Rick Hill

    I, myself, think of conservative women as being the same as conservative men. THERE’S your equality.

  • memzilla Ω

    Current Harvey status and projected rainfall. The aftermath will be terrible. Raw sewage and oil and chemicals in the water. People who can’t boil water without electricity. Cell towers down. Alligators and snakes will be in the water. Floating rafts of fire ants. Rats and roaches. Billions of mosquitos will be breeding. Black mold. Mud, mud, mud everywhere. We snark on red-state Texas for the red, but we’re not so cruel as to revel in the misery of people we disagree with. WONKERINES!!
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f3bf5d293a642e572599d56fab9fb9c098de9f99c09e626f88855746a20bd20f.jpg

  • jesterpunk

    Conservative women like Ann Coulter want to take women’s right to vote away from them and only have white landowning christian men voting so republicans can win every election.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/ann-coulter-women-should-not-have-the-right-to-vote-but-they-can-still-write-books/

    Coulter explained that Ted Kennedy’s ’65 immigration act was “specifically designed to change the demographics of this country. When it went through, as with Obamacare, surrounded with lies, a miasma of lies: ‘this will not change the demographic of America; we’ll get basically the same people we’ve always gotten.’” But, instead, Coulter asserted, this act “was specifically designed to bring in peasant cultures who would remain poor for generations, remain on government support, so that you would have a solid block of Democratic voters, and it worked.”

    According to Coulter, “Obama never would have been elected, I mean certainly wouldn’t have been reelected – Romney won bigger against, I mean, if the demographics of this country had not changed so dramatically because of immigration, Romney would have won a bigger landslide than Reagan did against Carter in 1980.”

    McInnes, also brought up women voters, prompting Coulter to share her position that “women should not have the right to vote.” She continued that while women should not vote, “We can still write books! We can run for office.”

    “You just can’t vote,” McInnes reiterated.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Fuck off, McAnus. Go crawl back under whatever rock you and Ezra came from.

    • Me The People

      She might as well follow where her logic leads and declare that only white male nazis with an IQ of <90 can vote in future.

      • Three Finger Salute

        First they came for the intellectuals…

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      oh fuck that harpy. She’s just out for attention again.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      She really does need to scuttle back to the roach motel she calls home.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Also known as “Bill Maher’s house”.

    • Me not sure

      And yet she got caught registering to vote in two separate states, NY and FL.
      The cognitive dissonance is stunning.

    • BosGrl

      Is there actual brain matter inside her head or just unsalted butter?

      • jesterpunk

        Unsalted butter is actually useful.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Margarine, most likely. Because unsalted butter is a good thing.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      I often post this about Ms. Coulter:

      She regrets she was born 50 years too late to be the Bitch of Buchenwald.

  • FukuiSanYesOta

    Haha, poor right-wing SF rally losers are crying on Farcebook Live.

    The leader of a right-wing group that canceled gatherings at both Crissy
    Field and Alamo Square Park in San Francisco complained Saturday the
    city had made it all but impossible for him to put on an event in
    public.

    Hours later came the Facebook Live event with Kyle Chapman, who is
    facing felony charges of possessing a lead pipe at a rally in Berkeley,
    and other sympathizers. Chapman, a 41-year-old Daly City resident who
    goes by the nickname “Based Stickman,” was able to be with Gibson after
    posting $135,000 bail and being released from Alameda County jail.

    They seem … dumb as rocks.

    • yyyaz

      I have smarter rocks with fossilized chrinoid DNA.

    • Jennifer R

      Chapman will have violated his probation if found guilty of his felony possession of a weapon. He is getting 8 years in jail and his twitter feed reads like a man ready to kill people.

    • jesterpunk

      So he broke his parole conditions since the judge told him to stay away from the rallies?

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Rocks libelz!

    • My entire neighborhood is still cordoned off—and has been since 10:30 this morning—with no foot or vehicle traffic allowed unless you can prove that you live there. I’ve had to show my license and have my bag checked just to come and go from my apartment, and we’re not allowed to leave our own block unless it’s to head away from Alamo Square.

      So, dumb as rocks, but pretty damn effective at fucking up what would’ve been an enjoyable day in a park that’s finally seeing one of its first sunny days in all of Fogust.

      Heckuva job, Brownshirts!

  • Nounverb911
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Many other tweets, by the way, included a healthy dose of fat shaming

    LOL, did no one tell them that America’s obesity rate by state includes several red states?

    Then again, if they want to alienate their own base, that works for me…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2f15d534a37e92e34bdd93eb1c0685a030a3e106e68727cd47073a6108095d9.jpg

    • Panika MCD

      did you hear about the Edmonton ISD principal who was just fired for telling her students they were or would look too fat in leggings if they weren’t a size 0-2? the students had a sit in…in leggings.

      • BosGrl

        I had a teacher at a Catholic school tell me my daughter shouldn’t wear leggings on Friday casual days because they weren’t “flattering”.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Or that one of the reasons for it is because Big Ag and Big Food keeps getting subsidized to produce toxic crap like HFCS that’s more addictive than crack — and it’s cheap enough that it’s mostly poor people who rely on it as sustenance?

      You know what’d be good for the obesity epidemic? Healthy, affordable food. But no, let’s blame Michelle Obama for waging war against Ronald McDonald, and then make racist, vulgar comments about her ass. Shut the fuck up cons, you’re out of your element.

      • Lord Jim

        Many of us probably get too much sugar in our diets, but it’s not really the fault of high fructose corn syrup. In fact, HFCS can sweeten foods more in lower amounts than sugars from other sources – source.

  • Lyly Sirivong

    Yeah Girl Power was kind of bull but I did love the music.
    https://youtu.be/LqegXZUis2I

    • WomanInThePersistence

      The Spice Girls were rediculous. But Bikini Kill, Sleater-Kinney, and other riot grrrls were and are pretty damned good.

      https://youtu.be/NH-9Pow-2oE

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        I always rather liked Babes in Toyland.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        I love them all. If that makes me an odd duck, I don’t want to be right.

      • Lyly Sirivong

        I totally missed the riot grrrls movement. You didn’t hear much of them in France. I was only vaguely aware there was a band called Sleater-Kinney, but that was about it.
        I’ve loved plenty of female acts since I was kid, but until recently (like 15 years ago), the lyrics and messages didn’t matter much because my english was too rubbish to understand them. Actually I still don’t get what most of them are about.

  • ariel_gee_398

    Liberal women refusing to celebrate women who want to oppress anyone who isn’t a white dude? Must need an IQ higher than 132 to understand why that might be so…

    • yyyaz

      If Ms. 132 were to quit their side and join ours she would lower the collective IQ on both sides.

      • Lord Jim

        SICK burn! Lol!

  • “before you ask – 132 IQ”

    Who would ask? Do people go around asking for other people’s IQ scores? I don’t think that’s a thing. What difference does an IQ score make in relation to Trump support anyway? You can have a high IQ and still be a bad person who supports Trump.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      We didn’t ask. Assholes can have an IQ of 132. Females can also be assholes.

      Any other questions?

    • Jennifer R

      Anyone who feels the need to proclaim their IQ on the internet unprompted is lying.

      • BosGrl

        Also, anyone that questions it must have a reason…

      • Which is also why it’s pointless to ask. People are going to lie. And even if they think they’re telling the truth, they’re probably wrong. I think a lot of people don’t realize that those Facebook quizzes that give you your IQ scores are just entertainment and not accurate. And that IQ is movable, so the score you got in 6th grade might have dropped if you’ve done nothing with your brain since.

      • bbayliss

        Mine’s one million.

        • SnarkON

          Mine’s infinity.

          • Lord Jim

            Mine’s the cardinality of the class V of all sets.

      • Christopher Story

        Thanks for the heads up! I was about to tell everybody I had an IQ of 168.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Mine is 300. And I also can fly. And turn invisible at will. These are things I try not to brag about.

        • BloviateMe

          I can fart on command, if you’re really, really patient.

    • SnarkON

      “before you ask – 36DD”

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Shoe size?

    • foiled again

      Mensa is chockablock with objectivist Randfucks.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Peter Thiel is supposedly a bona fide computer genius.

      He’s also A Asshole.

      • jesterpunk

        Ben Carson is also a brilliant neurosurgeon but A Idiot about anything else.Just goes to show you can be really smart and be really stupid outside of your specific field of study.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Pyramids, how do they work?

          • Lord Jim

            As grain storage bins, not real fuckin’ well.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Not so brilliant surgeon. Look at his malpractice suits. He had to retire.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Robyn goes three for three on great articles.

  • Nounverb911
  • CO

    So this is happening this weekend too
    https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/901486411513298945

    • jesterpunk

      They only like caucuses they win.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHS-K7OuLAc

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
    • Snopes Shop

      It was inevitable that they would start trying fix elections, just like the GOP.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        By shouting “fraud” and “rioged” first, also too.

    • SadDemInTex

      Congrats, I’m blocking you and your cohorts.

    • Lord Jim

      Been reading thru that a bit and am embarrassed at my ignorance. Smart Wonkette friends – what’s the difference b/n caucus and primary? Gist of the linked thread is that primaries give more folks the opportunity to vote whereas caucus more restrictive. Yes? No? Someone also brought up “superdelegates”. Someone pointed out that superdelegates have always voted for the popular winner. Cool. So why are superdelegates needed? Not JAQing, just too little knowledge of the machinery of political parties.

      • Doug Langley
      • CO

        Basically a primary is similar to how you vote in the general election. You show up, get a ballot, and then leave.
        Simplifying it, a caucus is more time intensive. I have read some you have to be there upwards of 4 hours since you have to be on premise when your vote is counted. This is more detrimental to old people, people with disabilities, and people who work full time or multiple jobs. They don’t have the time to stick around.
        If you look at the amount of people who vote in a primary vs caucus it is night and day. Washington and Nebraska had a caucus that counted and then a primary not long after. ~26,000 people participated in the Washington caucus and 800,000 in the primary two months later.
        There were Less people are able to participate in caucuses which makes it less democratic.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Democratic_caucuses,_2016

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        as CO alluded to – IIRC – a primary is just a vote, but within the party.

        A caucus is more like…trying to choose ONE pizza for everyone at work. People toss out ideas and they are debated and argued over and eventually you work toward a consensus. That’s overly simplistic, but there were some great explainers (including wonkette?) on the difference when the Dem primary was going down.

        as for super delegates, I think it’s a bit like the electoral college of primaries, but I honestly don’t know much about it.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Superdelegates are elected state-level and national Democrats and DNC officials who make up 15% of the convention vote and aren’t bound to the state outcome*. The argument for them is that they can bring the voices of the people who elected them to the floor and balance the smaller pool that votes in primaries (and of course could potentially stop someone like Trump).

          The (a) argument against them is that they’re unrepresentative of the Democrats who voted in the primaries, which is true. They’re not, though, more unrepresentative than caucuses and open primaries, where the outcome can be determined by non-Democrats or a relatively privileged subset Democrats.

          *ironically enough in their current state were invented by Tad Devine, Bernie’s guru, to discourage outsiders after Bill Bradley and Howard Dean harshed his buzz by running as insurgents against his candidates. His explanation of what they do is here.

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    What if a conservative woman speaks up in the woods, is it still not being listened to?

    • Three Finger Salute

      No, because the tree falls “votes” on her.

  • Marla

    Hurricane Harvey is obviously Obama’s fault.

    How?

    Well, hurricanes form over the coast of Africa. And we all know who is from Africa, right?

    There, beat you to your own batshit conspiracy horseshit, Alex Jone$

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Michelle made it by stirring the air with her secret penis.

      • Marla

        But…but…the clouds are white.

        How can this be?

        • Serai 1

          Have you been UNDER those clouds? They’re not white from ground zero!

    • jesterpunk

      Its in Hawaii Kenya which is some island somewhere in the Pacific Ocean that told Trump no and made the KKKlebler elf sad.

  • Nounverb911
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Anyway, it they want to help make #WomensEqualityDay trend on Twitter (as it is currently doing), that also works for me. Trolls gonna backfire!

    • BosGrl

      Logic and reason not their big strength.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      They don’t seem to get that, ever.

  • SnarkON

    On the Internet, everyone’s IQ is 132.

    • Me not sure

      And we’re all very good looking.

      • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude

        I’m not.

        • Me not sure

          I think you’ve already let that cat out of the bag.

      • Rick Hill

        Speak for yourself!. I’m actually a damn handsome man

        • Me not sure

          I think I speak for all of us when I say “Well OF COURSE you are, bless your heart.”

    • Rick Hill

      Mines’ actually 264.

      • folderol

        At least you’ve shown us you can multiply. Well played, sir.

    • HorseChestnut

      Nuh uh, mine’s 132 and a half!

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      I have been on the Internet, and there are a lot of people on there trying their damnedest to make you forget that.

    • Lyly Sirivong

      Damn, I’m dumber than everyone on the internet.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Wait — did the 19th Amendment only give women the right to vote if they were liberal? Awesome — I’m calling Mom right now.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Can we just say it did?

  • Bill D. Burger

    Just what the country need right now___ a fine healing song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fEMygEiSdc

  • Pax Americana Per Ars Smith
    • Elvis Causticfellow

      Aw, little guy tried so hard!

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Right to the last minute, I thought it would be a stirring display of canine athleticism.

    • BosGrl

      This is so much awesome.

    • BloviateMe

      The moment the dog makes eye contact is the awesome.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Ha! The ending is perfect.

  • Scooby

    Man, I wish bouffants would make a comeback. Too many spiders I guess.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • BosGrl

      Way to go, SFO!

  • SnarkON

    “I’m a strong, independent woman who makes 80 cents for every man’s dollar because I CHOOSE to.”

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    OK, I need to go lie down and chill out for a while to get over my rage about this:

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/901257914903658502

    • Marla

      Save it for your own country of Canada, Teddy.

      • Three Finger Salute

        He is dead to them. They have a history of disowning fascists. Adolf Harper “consults” on Wall Street, and probably the whole of Deplorebel Media is going to crawl over to Fux and Blightfart pretty soon.

        Scheer Idiot and the rest of the Crappers are going to collapse if they don’t dial down the hatred (which they won’t) and reappear on the wingnut welfare train south of the 49th just the same.

        Fox News: Job-Creators for Retrograde Has-Beens Since 1996.

    • CripesAmighty

      It’s a day ending in ‘y’.

    • aktlib101

      IOKIYAR?

    • Bill D. Burger

      And that is the most punchable puss in Congress. ___ Well….Louie Gohmert….

      http://i.pokeme.com/meme/img/00g5.jpg

      • Edith Prickly

        Cruz isn’t stupid, he chooses to be an insufferable asshole because he thinks being smart makes him better than everyone else. He’s an Ayn Rand character come to life.

        • Daniel

          He’s something awakened from a recently dug grave through defiantly non-Latin incantations of primordial smugness from strange aeons past and draped in the flensed skin of the sacrificial victim required for such ceremonies. Then punched, because even necromancers can’t stand the contemptible shit.

          • yyyaz

            But we do have a very special, uh, ceremony planned with him as the “honoree.”
            — Necromancers of America

        • onedollarjuana

          Gee, I wonder what his IQ might be … 131, 133?

      • Nounverb911

        Dear Texas.
        Please secede and take this asshole with you.
        Love and kisses
        America

        • Three Finger Salute

          Dear America:

          Nope, you broke it, you bought it.

          Fuck you very much,
          Mexico

          P.S. Canada don’t want him back either.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            Dear America,

            Don’t let our loudest and most irritatingly obnoxious citizens sour you on our state. Every state has them – Maine has LePage, NYC has Trump, Fla has Rick Scott, Indiana had Mike Pence, Wisconsin has Scott Walker, Kansas has Kris Kolbach, and there are just all kinds of stupid fuckers in Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Tenn., Kentucky, and West Virginia.

            By and large we are terribly sweet, friendly people – and we have great food. REAL Texans look at a neighbor’s sexual, financial, or personal life and figure “ain’t none of my business, as long as they ain’t hurtin’ nobody.”

            Real texans don’t complain loud or whine. Which is why they’re drowned out by the nut jobs. The Texas secessionist movement is and always will be stupid and in the minority – you know what we mean Nevada, with the bundy clan) and Oregon and Michigan, with your militias).

            Yeah, the dude behind the corner store counter might hate you on account of your race or sexuality, but they WILL be polite to you and serve you. You will never meet warmer, friendlier people anywhere in the U.S.

            Dont’ believe the stereotype or what you hear – come visit us yourselves.

            Y’all are always welcome here, just let us know so we can set an extra place for you at the table.

            Love,
            TEXAS

          • Lord Jim

            Texas liberals seem a lot like progressive Christians: prefer to do good instead of attention whore.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            you’d be surprised at Texas Christians i think (not hte crazy fundies or evangelicals).

            Do you read margaret and helen? Helen is in Texas.

            https://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com

          • Panika MCD

            we also too have so much better music.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Lyle Lovett hisself couldn’t have said it better.

    • CO

      “Here’s the thing you have to understand about Ted Cruz, I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.” -Al Franken

    • Nounverb911

      Can Corey Booker put any assistance bills for Texas under double secret probation like Cornyn? did with the Sandy appropriation?

    • janecita

      Hypocrites!

  • HorseChestnut

    If someone knows their IQ down to the single digits, it’s because they got it from an online quiz (paging Peggy Hill).

    • Persistent Demme

      Haven’t IQs been debunked anyway?

      • David Roosa

        IQ is measure of the ability to take an IQ test, nothing more.

        • Eileen Besse

          HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

  • Edith Prickly

    Dear conservative ladies, once you start believing in equality for women who aren’t you, you’re welcome to participate. But I think you all prefer whining on Twitter about how you don’t need no stinking feminism instead, so knock yourselves out.

  • Anna Rompage

    Conservative women are fierce, stubborn, and independent as fuck and don’t need any of you help breaking that glass ceiling…

    Their views are that women deserve to be treated the way they do…

    Rape, yeah, that’s totally overblown and often times it’s a mean girl just trying to get revenge..

    Hell, if Donad wants to grab me by my pussy, more power to him, I wouldn’t turn that down…

    The fact women make up less than 7% of CEO in fortune 1000 companies? that’s because women are too soft and don’t have the smarts to do what a man does.

    Women making $0.76 on the dollar of what their male counterparts do. I’m sure there’s a good reason for that too, and don’t believe all that liberal, fuzzy math logistics they try to pull on me.

    Pervasive Sexual harassment over at Fox News? Again, totally blown out of propotion and who wouldn’t be flattered to be seduced by Roger Alies, Bill O’Riley, Sean Hannity, Steve Deucy, Jesse Watters, or any of the other fine, upstanding gentleman there…

    • spangled

      there are 84 women in the house of representatives. 22 republicans, 62 democrats.

      seems like republican women need a lot more “help breaking that glass ceiling” than democrats.

    • Rick Hill

      A lot of those fierce women seem very willing to accept their place in life.

    • Three Finger Salute

      The part about needing to be “tough” as a CEO is itself a feminist issue. Why should it be necessary to be aggressive, ruthless, rapacious, selfish, and focusing primarily (or only) on profits, and not be compassionate towards your employees or, heck, run your business as a co-op with fair conditions negotiated on a continual basis by unions? It’s because of toxic masculinity that compassion itself is viewed as a “feminine” thing and therefore denigrated as weakness.

      We don’t need or want a female Gordon Gecko, because we don’t need or want any more Gordon Geckos, period. That Gordon Gecko line of thinking is what got us into this mess. If compassion and mutuality are “feminine” traits, then so be it. Go ahead and call me a damn commie if you must, Republicans, but I happen to believe that there’s more to life than responsibility to shareholders.

      I saw that “Wall Street Girl” statue as meaning something else besides “not enough female Gordon Geckos”: I saw it as girls and women (and the men who support them) tearing down the unequal system of Gordon Gecko empire altogether in favor of something much better. A world where we look after each other and don’t leave people and nature in the dust to accrue more profits and buy useless junk.

      Marissa Mayer is one such backstabber who can go eat a bag of salted dicks. We don’t need more Marissa Mayers as the solution. We need an economy that works for ALL of us — including Mother Nature — and doesn’t treat people as surplus “product” or obsolete machinery.

      Clearly not enough girls are running the world. And if it’s self-centered bitches like Mayer and Rebecca Mercer, then it’s the wrong girls. We need to be kind to each other even if that means shaving off profits. Screw dickish profiteering and Make America Motherly Again.

      • Lord Jim

        [Salutes.]

  • A Groucho Marxist

    Conservatives, men and women alike, sure do love them some strawpeople, don’t they?

    • Anna Rompage

      If red herrings were a food source, they would have ended world hunger decades ago…

  • GRH

    Chivalry = gallantry toward women = BS
    The Medieval Knight was only chivalrous toward the Noble class – he would look at a “low born” female as fair game.
    Ever wonder why Villains are called Villains?
    The etymology of Villain is …
    c. 1300 — “base or low-born rustic” — “peasant or serf” from Anglo-French and Old French vilain — “inhabitant of a farm; peasant; churl, boor; clown; miser; knave, scoundrel (12c.), from Medieval Latin villanus “farmhand,” from Latin villa “country house, farm”

    • DainBramage
      • Serai 1

        I prefer it in context. In its original form, it’s not an adage, but a curse.

        Oh, villain, villain, smiling damned villian,
        That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain!

        One of the great frustrated utterances in literature.

        • Daniel

          Up there with “Good grief!”

        • Persistent Demme

          What’s that from?

          • Daniel

            Hamlet

          • Tishalicious

            Hamlet. God help me, I thought it was Richard iii. My mother will beat me!

          • Three Finger Salute

            There’s a new Shakespeare play about Trump.

            It’s called Dick the Turd.

          • Persistent Demme

            So did I, (but Richard III seemed wrong).

          • Serai 1

            Hamlet. The prince is watching Claudius dancing with his mother, and he’s seething with rage over what the ghost has told him.

    • yyyaz

      The poor and oppressed are still the villains here, according to “conservatives.”

    • BosGrl

      Maybe that’s the difference between conservative and progressive women. Progressive women want the person ahead of them to hold the door and they want to hold the door for the person behind them. Conservatives want men to hold the door open for them because they’re women.

      • Eileen Besse

        OMG, that’s is SO it!

  • Doug Langley

    Apt had pool party today. Hot dogs, burgers, BBQ chicken. Great weather. Kids played in pool, adults chatted. I’m so worn out by work, it was a bit of a pick me up. Landlady told me “Come inside”. She had a small box with food in it for me. She knows I have it hard.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      I thought that story was going to have a different ending.

      Heartwarming. Sorry to hear you’re having a bad time.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        You have a dirty mind. I like that in a person.

      • BloviateMe

        And we’ve swung full circle back to felch.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        IKR?

      • Doug Langley

        I have an even better story. Many, many years ago when I was young and in another part of the country, I was moving out of my apartment. I instructed a friend to buzz the security gate open while I backed the U-Haul through it. Next thing I knew, two things happened simultaneously: “STOP!!!!” and CRUNCH. The gate was torn out and useless. We spent the day filling up the truck and driving to my new apartment.

        Next week I was back, cleaning the old place and getting out the rest of my stuff. I walked outside with trash and around the corner came the asst manager. “YOU!” she said. “I need to talk to you RIGHT AWAY!!” Oh God. We went to the office, she got a phone call and I was sweating bullets. I’ll throw myself on the mercy of the court, anything. Finally she hangs up and says “Okay. Since you’re moving out before the end of the month, we need a pro-rated check for part of the month, not the whole month.” I was like “Ch-check? Oh, of course, the check. I mean, what else would you want to talk about? HAHAHAHAHA

      • Gayer Than Thou

        “Dear Landlord & Tenant Forum –

        This kind of thing never happens to me … “

    • WomanInThePersistence

      How’s the new job?

      • Doug Langley

        Wearing me out, but I need the money so desperately. Next week they’re getting another temp, so that ease things off me a tad.

        Got another couple of weeks, but applying at other places.

        • Eileen Besse

          You’re gonna win, friend. You obviously have the stamina. And that’s what you NEED.

  • Amelia Resists and Persists

    Hey, funny thing! Being a feminist doesn’t mean LIKING all women, it means believing all women deserve equal rights!

    Something which, if I’m recalling conservative comments before the election and after the Women’s march accurately, is something conservative women give zero shits about.

    So until that changes, no, they can’t participate.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Well put.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      It also means they’re dumbasses like their male counterparts.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Unfortunately, that also means it’s about believing some women, like Coulter, have the equal right to shoot their mouths off and be stupid.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I believe that everybody has a right to express their opinions. Even human pustules like Coulter. That doesn’t mean that she has any kind of right to claim Womens Equality Day. Or that I can’t call her a hypothetical, moronic fascist apologist. Of course I have the right to call her out for her pathetic, attention-grabbing bullshit.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Probably somebody has already brought this up, but here’s what conservative women really think about women voting: Wizzened harpy says women should have never been given voting rights

    • Anna Rompage

      That’s only because Ann doesn’t have a husband…

      If she followed the traditional roll, and got married when she was 17-3/4, she’d totally realize that he would be the perfect guiding hand on who to vote for…

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      If you don’t respect that, you’re the intolerant one.

    • Edith Prickly

      She’s welcome to stop voting any time.

  • Rick Hill
  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    The fuck, with the pink hats again? Bitch, if you’re so mad jelly, knit one for yourself.

    Next they’ll restart O’Reilly’s Pink Pistols.

  • Jennifer R

    And the right says the left can’t make quality image macros.
    https://twitter.com/Egoistporky/status/899443836149051392/photo/1

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    Moving to Mars is starting to look better and better.

    • Three Finger Salute

      At least we can start a new planet with intelligent life.

  • Jenny

    We don’t invite you to our awesome libtard equal rights parties, conservative women because you’re constantly complaining about how you’re not the belle of the ball. Then act out to get attention.

    Ain’t nobody got time for that.

  • janecita

    I hate conservative men a lot, but I DESPISE conservative women! Fuck all of them, and their submissive, ignorance and lack of self worth! And no, you don’t get to celebrate Women’s Equality Day, you are more than happy with the patriarchy and the status quo. This is a day for us, the fighters, it’s not a day for you, the complicit collaborators.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d921243f9927fc3720ba970f8b695d035a84c97c7d908e838393539facf44104.gif

    • Anna Rompage

      I feel the same about queer and Jewish republicans…

      I just don’t get it…

      • Daniel

        “I never expected leopards to eat my face!”

      • janecita

        I just found out yesterday that my very nice, very environmentally conscious, gay neighbors, voted for Trump. They just couldn’t stand Hillary, she seemed “unauthentic.”

        • Daniel

          …the spray tanned, fake haired, gold plated tacky carnival barker did, though?

          • janecita

            I guess so!

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Frankly, no. They’re not that nice.

          • janecita

            Not anymore. Assholes!

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            In all this outpouring of support for Colin Kaepernick, people forget that he said Hillary was just as bad as Trump, and didn’t bother to vote. Fuck that guy.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        Don’t get me started on the Log Cabin queens.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      OT, but some friends of mine just got back from a trip to Cuba….the drummer in my band and his wife. Her mother grew up there, but it’s her/their first trip. Don’t have a lot of details, but they loved it. Anyway, I thought of you.

      • janecita

        I’m glad that they liked it. It’s a nice, peaceful place. You should go, it is not that expensive. There are some awesome jazz clubs in Havana, you would love it!

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          I’m sure I would. They spent some time in the boonies…not sure where exactly; said people were incredibly poor yet very generous and gracious to them. When did you move away, and when was the last time you went back?

          • janecita

            I left on 1986, last time I went was on 2001. I was there on September 11. I’m going again next June. The kids really want to go. I was waiting for them to be older, so they could fully enjoy it.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            You fled the country just BEFORE 9/11? Hmmm.

            Seriously, that’s sound great, to go with your family. I drove a 1954 GMC truck for most of my adult life. I think I’d feel right at home there.

  • BillEGoatSmirk

    First it was the voter registration lists with personal information, then the IP addresses from DreamHost, and now this:

    “An arm of the White House’s antidrug office has asked Massachusetts and several other states where medical marijuana is legal to turn over information about registered patients, triggering a debate over privacy rights and whether state officials should cooperate with a federal administration that appears hostile to the drug.”

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/08/25/white-house-anti-drug-office-asks-massachusetts-for-medical-marijuana-data/FIiAccGpbD7az3wfUyoMbK/story.html

    • Anna Rompage

      If I’m not mistaken, several states out on the west coast have asked dispenceries to delete transaction & patient records, and not track patient information…

    • Three Finger Salute

      Then they came for the Netflix subscribers, and I didn’t speak up because I still use VHS…

      https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/aug/25/netflix-marijuana-strains-original-shows

    • BosGrl

      “In an interview, Quigley said the data are for a routine research
      project, in which he is looking for any correlation between how strictly
      states regulate medical cannabis and the rates of marijuana use among
      different age groups within the general public in those states.”

      Marijuana is legal in Massachusetts, up to 2 ounces for recreational. So how would this be relevant to his science fair project?

      • BillEGoatSmirk

        Quigley is former law enforcement and is not a scientist. And big surprise, he thinks that weed is evil.

  • altleftjohn

    Why do I get the feeling S, has been asked IQ question before?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9E9n6GHC8

  • Bill D. Burger

    Cause’ of course he is….. Bullies pick on the weakest___and the black man developed it…so it has to go.

    [SAT AUG 26, 2017 / 1:31 AM EDT
    Trump likely to rescind Obama ‘Dreamer’ program: media reports
    Julia Harte

    REUTERS/JONATHAN ALCORN
    (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump is very likely to rescind an Obama-era policy that protects nearly 600,000 immigrants who entered the country illegally as children and are known as “Dreamers,” according to media reports on Friday.

    Trump’s decision on whether to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, policy could be announced as early as next week, reported ABC News, citing multiple sources.

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions discussed the program with senior White House officials on Thursday, according to an administration official.
    Trump had pledged on the election campaign trail to scrap all of former President Barack Obama’s executive orders on immigration, including DACA.]

    I’ve said I hate Trump, I loathe Trump…so many times that words strong enough to convey the full detestation I feel for him fail. This is why.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1B52KZ

    • Three Finger Salute

      They had a dream.

      We have a nightmare.

      Thanks a lot, Donnie Kruger.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Suffer the children was not, in fact, a suggestion. What assholes.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      600,000 people who came here as children and had no real choice in the matter.

      The New Cruelty indeed.

      Donnie should end up in an oubliette, please.

      • yyyaz

        Medieval voting booth.

      • David Roosa

        I cant imagine being deported back to a country I don’t even remember, and maybe cant even speak the language

        • Three Finger Salute

          And who knows how far back they’ll go or what they’ll do with the Wong Kim Ark decision if he gets another SCOTUS pick and one of those anti-immigration groups files a case. My mom’s mom’s father (maternal great-grandfather, but on grandma’s side rather than grandpa’s), came here from Portugal as a stowaway. There’s a lot of “Smiths” in this country whose names got changed at Ellis Island for convenience, who were really Kowalskis or something else the officials didn’t care to know how to write down.

          There’s no telling what kind of dystopian scenarios he and thugs like Kobach will get into, “cross-referencing” names in their IBM database one way or another. I can’t imagine being dumped in the Azores out of nowhere either. And how would you even do that since most Americans are multi-hyphenates anyway? Flip a coin or draw a straw to determine which origin country they end up? Or just parachute everyone into Canada without a parachute?

          Weirdly, that’s one way of giving the land back to the Indians…

  • Three Finger Salute

    BREAKING: Sessions declares Netflix to be a terrorist propaganda network.

    Netflix has started developing marijuana strains based on its original shows

    “Stranger Things,” natch.

    • Eileen Besse

      LOVE ST!!!

  • Daniel

    The Society for the Promotion of Stockholm Syndrome demands your respect.

    • therblig

      at first i was skeptical, but now i’ve come around to their point of view.

  • aktlib101

    “‘Xenophobia and racism sells ads’: Matt Taibbi shreds media for creating Trump – then profiting off of him”
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/xenophobia-and-racism-sells-ads-matt-taibbi-shreds-media-for-creating-trump-then-profiting-off-of-him/

    ““[Trump] is good for business,” head of CNN International Tony Maddox said. “It’s a glib thing to say. But our performance has been enhanced during this news period.”

    “If you look at the groups that Trump has primarily targeted: CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Saturday Night Live, Stephen Colbert,” he said, “every single one of those has seen a quite remarkable growth in their viewing figures, in their sales figures.”

    Donald Trump’s candidacy “may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS,” Les Moonves said of his network in 2016. “The money’s rolling in, and this is fun.”

    “This presidency has become the ultimate ratings bonanza,” Taibbi noted. “Trump couldn’t do better numbers if he jumped off Mount Kilimanjaro carrying a Kardashian.”

    Taibbi argues that television networks share the blame for the Trump phenomenon.”

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Matt Taibbi profits off of shitting on Democrats.

      • aktlib101

        I am a die-hard liberal, would not vote a Repub as dog catcher, yet from time to time I also disagreed with the democrats. It’s ok to disagree.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Well, he’s also a vicious little prep school radical who bragged about trying to coerce the women who worked for him in Russia into non-consensual anal sex for lulz, so there’s that.

    • Persistent Demme

      Funny, I’m not feelin’ the “fun.”

    • Marion in Savannah
    • NotDarkYet
      • Doug Langley

        Good article,except it makes the mistake of assuming there were strong reasons Americans wanted Trump president. In fact, the election was a giant accident that gave us what we didn’t want.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Don’t forget social media. Twitter fucker gave a nonpology for enabling Trump, then shrugged and went away to go work on his bullshit “blogging” venture that’s basically just WordPress with a “responsive” UI. I’m not even religious but I hope there’s a special place in the ninth circle of hell for everyone who founded, or is current CEO of, the GRIFT companies (Google, Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter) and their ilk. (I call the social media core GRIFT, in response to an investment term called FANG which refers to current “new media” titans Facebook, Amazon, Netflix and Google.)

      Fuck Jack Dorsey, Evan Williams, Eric Schmidt, whoever that asshole is who thinks he can make up for unleashing the hellspawn that is Reddit on the world by having a baby with Venus (or maybe it’s Serena), and for the love of anything left that is holy, please let the planet be nuked before we have to choose between Zuckerborg and Twitler in 2020. I’m actually hoping Kim gets trolled into kickstarting nuclear annihilation at this point.

    • Suttree

      That’s why I don’t watch television news anymore. And I sure as hell am not giving any money to any newspapers.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    They love to claim they don’t like feminism because they aren’t victims, then they cry about how they’re victimized by women having different opinions than they do.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Free speech is hard!

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Ironic, ain’t it?

      • Suttree

        Ironic, stupid, potato, potahto.

  • Persistent Demme

    I love how defensive and guilty they are!

    You built this, lady! Own it!

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Nounverb911
    • data_ninja

      I forget where I heard this one, but here it is:

      “All Dogs go to Heaven; there is no Dog Hell. There is only Cat Hell, and it is called Dog Heaven.”

      • Suttree

        But the cats rule that hell.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Three Finger Salute

      He bitches about “tearing down Mount Rushmore,” but what do you want to bet he’s already threatening to shut down the gubmint if they don’t replace Lincoln with him? “In honor of the Republican president who was treated the worst, most unfairly ever in the history of ever.”

  • Nounverb911
    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Crappy loves Chachi

      • Three Finger Salute

        Charles ain’t in charge of shit.

    • Moebym of the Returners

      So Mrs. Scott Baio is just as horrid as her husband. I feel for their kid; she deserves better parents.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Chachi got punched out by Flea’s wife at some event last year.

        • Snopes Shop

          you just lifted my spirits

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Not enough.

        • Snopes Shop

          I think it was the drummer, not Flea, but still awesome.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            chris something or other.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Isn’t it rich? Are they a pair?

    • Snopes Shop

      Jesus christ on a cracker. I want to punch her in the votes with other votes.

    • Snopes Shop

      I just peeked at her twitter timeline and now i am blind. Don’t go there.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      shit fuck damn mutherfucking (wanders off into the desert, cursing).

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      You can imagine what kind of self-esteem issues she must have to marry that Mensa husband of hers.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Sayeth a scumbag.

  • Nounverb911

    Words fail, part 2:

    Roger Stone threat to John McCain after he criticized Arpaio parden.
    https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/901489945075884037

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Hahaha, if karma is gonna get anybody, it’s gonna be Rogered…

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      All I have to say is FUCK YOU Roger Stone. Karma gets fuckers like you, you slime ball bastard….

    • Bill D. Burger

      I would wear scorn and hate from vermin like Roger Stone like a shiny badge of honor.

      • Lambsendbeds

        He called me a bot once, when I retweeted an article about him from Daily Kos. I can’t believe he watches his mentions so closely that he’d respond personally to a retweet from a no one like me.

        • Elvis Causticfellow

          As someone else here once said, he gives the impression of someone who doesn’t have a whole lot to do.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            He does not have a whole lot to do, because he can’t do anything worthy of his oxygen.

    • Elvis Causticfellow

      When I want clarification on the finer points of Hindu or Buddhist theology and how they interact with Christian notions of everlasting punishment, the first person I think of is Roger Stone.

      • RobKanC

        In pastafarian theology, Karma is the name of a stripper in the stripper factory. So I am not sure what he is trying to convey

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Projection.

      Karma has a long list of better candidates to go after first, Roger. I’m sure you are near the top of the list, asshole.

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    I’m going to ask a serious question, but I want to be clear that this is not an endorsement. Really, it is not.

    At what point is violence actually okay? I ask because things are starting to take a dark turn, and I am beginning to wonder when parts of the country will decide they’ve had enough.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      When it is in self defense? It will be the aggressors who will claim “they’ve had enough”, though.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        I just wonder what’s going to happen when DACA is ripped up on top of this pardon. My gut says the Latino community is going to erupt before the year end.

        • Eileen Besse

          I’ll help them.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          you’d be surprised – there are right wing latinos. A common battle cry is, “my parents did it legally, so should they!”

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        True about the aggressors, but that shouldn’t stop us from defending ourselves and if not able to, pressing charges.

    • Snopes Shop

      I’d like to know, too.

    • Iam Reading

      Reactive violence, in my opinion, is always okay to protect yourself, those you love, or other people who you see being subjected to violence and can’t help themselves. Preemptive violence is a bit more tricky. But the funny thing about violence as with all things is that there’s always an upside and there’s always a downside. Goodness gracious my post didn’t help anything. I apologize

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I believe it’s okay only in self-defense. Not the bullshit “I was scared” , but when one is actually being attacked. For real.

      Yes, this is a disheartening time in our country, but there are lines not to be crossed. Lest we become what we despise.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Defending yourself. Defending the innocent.

      Doing what needs to be done to be certain that innocents are not harmed again.

  • altleftjohn

    Good girls. Now how about a beer and a blowjob?

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      I’m tired. Can you just take care of it yourself? Both things.

      If Steve Bannon can do it, so can you.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      vecciojohn – you know the answer to that question even before you ask it.

    • Suttree

      I can count on one hand the number of times Lizzie fetched me a beer. At least there were blowjobs.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        TMI, but I am glad you guys are together.

        • Suttree

          Me too! She’s special.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • Eileen Besse

      Is that R. Crumb?

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        Yes :-)

      • Elvis Causticfellow

        It’s a picture drawn by R. Crumb, but I don’t believe the caption is his.

  • TJ Barke

    Conservatives hate equality. It’s basically the entire point of their ideology. They hate the idea that they should treat others they deem inferior as equal. It’s all about maintaining privilege over others.

    • TJ Barke

      Selfishness, also, too. They have zero desire to help others to reach areas commensurate with themselves. Thus defeating their privilege.

    • Snopes Shop

      Without exception.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      This is objectively true.

      I remember reading about an experiment in a restaurant moving to “no tips”; they paid the wait staff proper wages and wouldn’t let people tip.

      Those who identified as liberal were fine with this. Conservatives *hated* it because they lost the power to reward the “lesser” people based on their service.

  • data_ninja

    OT: Not sure how I missed this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If4eQHYKSu8

    It’s possible I like this one even more because it’s a parody of a Spike Jones song.

  • Royal Ugly Globalist Dude
  • Rick Hill

    Unhhhh. My life, I just can’t believe the burdens I sometimes have to bear. I put my beer two feet out of reach and I have to exert an effort if I want another. Life is just so cruel…

    • altleftjohn

      I feel your pain. I had to spend minutes this morning cleaning out my dope pipe.

    • Panika MCD

      hey, if I run out of beer, I have to go out in a hurricane. count you blessings and drink them one by one.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Checked on the SIS who lives between Galveston and Houston. They’re ok. Hanging in the house.

        • Panika MCD

          good. they’re going to flood tomorrow or Monday.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      My expensive top-shelf cigar went out. AGAIN!! And my lighter is out of butane! AGAIN!!!!111

      I hate my life.

  • anon_the_great

    Man am I sick of the Right’s proactive butthurt.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Shorter version: Man am I sick of the Right.

  • TJ Barke

    Shorter conservative bitches: “I got mine because I must be strong and excellent, no one helped me get where I am, therefore I need no help from other women, and need not help any other women.”

    • Three Finger Salute

      Even shorter:

      “I got mine because I married some old lech 30 years my senior — just like five other women before me”

    • Moebym of the Returners

      Those who think they “made it on their own” need to study history a little bit more closely to appreciate just how many sacrifices were made by those who came before them in order for them to enjoy the lives they take for granted today.

      • TJ Barke

        “Lol, that’s dumb lib propaganda”

    • Shibusa

      And too often it’s “I got mine because I married well.”

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Nailed it.

  • Nounverb911
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • weejee

      Three states have two female senators. Yea!!!

      • Parakeetist

        Must move to one of these magical places.

  • Michael R
  • Moebym of the Returners

    “I don’t [think I] need feminism, so no one does!” – Conservative women

  • Iam Reading

    White, conservative women are essentially Uncle Toms, minus the pigment and the penis.

  • Jennifer R
    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      I prefer “lady dick.” Why, yes, I can use it in a sentence, it goes something like this, used when screaming about something obnoxious, “He can suck my big fat lady dick!”

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I genuinely don’t get this.

      • Jennifer R

        TERFbot is a bot that a transwoman wrote that scrapes through TERF accounts and makes posts based upon the words it finds.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Ahhhh…. thanks!

          • Jennifer R

            Sometimes it still makes transphobic posts but usually it’s nonsense or funny stuff like that.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Heh, nice! Reminds me of Auto-Eric.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      And a wonderful counterpoint
      https://twitter.com/MyDaughtersArmy/status/901440135950192640
      Sigh, I miss decency in the WH.

      • Shibusa

        I miss competence in the WH, too.

        • Serai 1

          I miss human beings in the White House.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Awwwww. Everybunny needs a hug like that.

      • CripesAmighty

        Oh, man. *sigh*

  • David Roosa

    Feminism=the belief that women are people too. all the definition we need

    • Snopes Shop

      I thought it meant hairy armpits?

      • Nah, that’s just a fringe benefit.

      • Serai 1

        No, those are a rightwing fetish.

  • Panika MCD

    hurricane tacos were a success except I forgot the sour cream so subbed in cottage cheese and the batch of HEB hot salsa I got is not so hot as last time…

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      gah! cottage cheese!?!

      Also, does HEB still sell the pico? Cause that was great, fresh, hot shit.

      • Panika MCD

        they still sell the pico, Mr. Not In The Middle of a Downpour.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          well, I’m also mr. doesn’t have an HEB, so there!

          ; p

          • Panika MCD

            whose fault is that?

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            the H.E. Butts company hates latinos?

            Kidding…

          • Panika MCD

            or you live in the middle of nowhere.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            heh, if only you knew.

          • Panika MCD

            you’re area isn’t even populated enough to have a rattlesnake round up. in your area, rattlesnakes round up you!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            check your email.

            lol.

      • Erala Contratista

        I use cottage cheese smoothed in the old Cousinart with scallion and cilantro as part of vegetarian enchiladas. Sort of a matrix for whatever else I use.
        Today will include roasted corn…

        • yyyaz

          MMmmmmmm.

  • RobKanC

    The last one with the 132 IQ proves that IQ means nothing.

    • SeeTrain65

      My brother has a 136 IQ, and he can be as thick as a plank sometimes.

      • RobKanC

        Ok, so 2 examples then.

        • SeeTrain65

          At least he knows what’s right, though. And he’s a vociferous, enthusiastic Democrat. (And he is pretty damned smart to boot.)

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        Sometimes the “common sense” is weak in these ones.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          the tx dad once called me the stupidest smart kid he ever knew. (and i’m not that smart).

          • Swampgas_Man

            My ex used to refer to me as a “Perfectly-educated idiot”.

        • SeeTrain65

          BTW: Just took an online IQ test and scored a 145. Not joking.

          So, it’s confirmed. IQ means nothing. Literally NOTHING. If a dope like me can do it, a dope like S. Gordon can, too.

      • Erala Contratista

        Also whale steak, too.

    • Shibusa

      Rafael Cruz once asked a fellow Harvard law student what her I.Q. was. When she said she did not know, he said: “Well, what’s your S.A.T. score? That’s closely correlated with your I.Q.” (NYT)

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i REALLY want to know what Cruz’s LSAT score was.

      • Three Finger Salute

        I really, really really want to see Justin in the ring with that putz.

      • RobKanC

        Not surprised how his son turned out.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      All that 132 IQ means is that some assholes happen to be really good at taking IQ tests.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4714073d9be7485d4c7e022086ed60566ef3c5f99245c1a8f1cf3db87850b367.jpg Man, what a day. This sign welcomes visitors to my shop; clients, friends, tweakers alike. Don’t ever say I didn’t warn you.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      this is what of the first things I learned about you – between this photo and your ‘nym, I was hoping we’d become buddies.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        You’ll live to regret it at some point. Everyone does.

        • BosGrl

          Too late – we already LUV you!

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          well, I mean, if we ever get to hang out and see a show and have some beers, yeah, i might curse the day i ever met you…but i doubt it.

          ; )

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Brah, we’d definitely be amigos in real life. You’re a good man, it’s easy to see.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i think so too…but that 8 am wake up after a night with a rowdy friend is a bitch

            ; )

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            8?? Try 5, brah. Man up or GTFO!!

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Nonsense. You’re a good person. With a very good dog. No, I’m not hinting you should post a picture of Molly. Why do you ask?

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          Pfffft so not true.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I’m blessed by people like you who are too kind for their own good.

    • Christopher Story

      They need to hang that quote over the DMV

    • Me not sure

      You need a sign like this to go below that one…..”and the number of the counting shall be three.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30c33ea6d1053cf20636638b58f1b2cbc5f37788810d7ee20f2384270d45cbca.jpg

    • Three Finger Salute

      Don’t worry, we don’t have any change to spare either.

      http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/506f16ba69bedddc53000000/obama-sad-frown.jpg

      “Thanks, Vlad.”

    • Msgr_MΩment

      That would make an interesting tramp stamp.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        yeah, i laughed out loud.

        Sorry, not sorry.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Fuckit. Having a vag is still an impediment in that US. What should have been still leaves me incredibly sad and angry.
    https://twitter.com/SarahLerner/status/891118436675342336

    • Moebym of the Returners

      What’s that feeling called that I felt on that day? Was it “Hope”? I no longer know what that feels like.

      • Parakeetist

        Me neither.

    • altleftjohn
      • grindstone

        I spent it in good company….

    • Canis Greyhame

      Back when we were still young, and balloons were the greatest thing ever.

  • Christopher Story

    I’m sorry, but I can’t take a woman seriously when in one breath she tells me she’s strong, smart, independent, and in the next, explains to me why all her personal autonomy belongs to white males.

    • SadDemInTex

      Do you have a vagina?

      • Christopher Story

        Yeah, but she’s helping out a friend right now.

        • Me not sure

          There’s no body part better than a helpful vagina.

          • Rick Hill

            Unless you’re cleaning out gutters. Fachinas happen to be useless for that

          • Me not sure

            Define “cleaning out” and “gutters”.

          • Serai 1

            You’re just using it wrong.

          • Rick Hill

            Only the one time…

          • Christopher Story

            What’s better than roses on your piano?
            Tulips on your organ.

          • Gary Charound

            A bass clarinet planted in your asters.

          • Christopher Story

            You band geeks really are kinky

          • yyyaz

            Hey, if you join up for a year, you get a free bone-a-phone.

          • yyyaz

            A skin flute extended solo.

      • Shanzgood

        It doesn’t matter if he’s advocating for people how DO have them.

        • SadDemInTex

          It doesn’t seem like he is though….not the way I read his comment about HRC. Seriously, to even think about what she has had to deal with for thirty years is enough to make me ashamed…of all of us.

          • Christopher Story

            I think you misread my comment. If I posted it to a Hillary thread I do sincerely apologize. But I don’t think I did.

          • SadDemInTex

            So I did…I had accidentally gone back from another page. I’m still sad about what I keep reading about HRC though. It is really depressing.

          • Christopher Story

            I understand. I’m pretty triggered over Arpaio today.

          • SadDemInTex

            But at least by being “pardoned” he can be sued in civil court because he is admitting to being guilty. (I do hope that is true).

          • Christopher Story

            Small consolation. I’m concerned with what it portends. But anyway, yeah, it’s left me snippy and cranky today, so you are forgiven in the spirit of mutual commiseration.

        • Me not sure

          Do do that voo doo that you do to me.

    • Shanzgood

      Not just her own but all other women who aren’t judged worthy of “deserving” to have it.

      • Christopher Story

        I’ve noticed that about conservatism in general. Everything is a privilege to be bestowed, even what we consider inalienable rights. Like personal autonomy, or eating.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Right to life only if you’re a zygote with 100% European DNA.

          • Christopher Story

            And have accepted St. Reagan as your personal Lord and savior while voting Republican like its a religion.

        • Shanzgood

          Conservative women have thrown in their lot with conservative men, buying into the madonna/whore complex as a way to feel safe. That’s why they throw other women and girls under the bus all the time, believing those bus wheels will chew up enough other females so that they’ll be okay themselves. It’s not true, though. They’re already under the bus and don’t even know it.

    • Serai 1

      Just like I can’t take a woman seriously who’s using a national media platform to complain about all those pesky rights women should never have been given.

  • SeeTrain65

    OT: Found on Twitter rummaging through TERFbot’s creator’s retweets …

    https://twitter.com/Chemzes/status/901502568924426244

    • Msgr_MΩment
    • Shanzgood

      I can’t open that tweet but TERFS ARE SHITE.

      • Suttree

        I just found out what that meant recently here on Wonkette. Might have been Jennifer R.

  • BloviateMe

    Wait, Women’s Equality Day is the same day as National Dog Day?

    That seems…something.

    • altleftjohn

      Catty?

  • Stulexington

    I wonder how many of these concerned conservative women are in fact white men.

    • SeeTrain65

      My very thought. That, or their husbands are hacking their wives’ Twitter accounts.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        or at least standing over their shoulder

        • Bobathonic

          They’re allowed to have their own accounts?

    • Parakeetist

      AOT,K.

      • Suttree

        Nah, I have know republican women like this.

    • Canis Greyhame

      Just look for the ones using anime girls for their profile pic.

  • Raan

    “Sleepy Sheep Subterfuge” would be a good name for a band.

    • Parakeetist

      Baaaaaa

  • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    so I was just posting a link to margaret and helen below. If you don’t know – it’s a “blog” that was setup for two older friends to chat (i seriously thought it was satire for the longest time, but that’s really two elderly ladies).

    Anyway, Helen (from Texas) has thoughts on monuments:

    “On one side there were Nazis and on the other side there were no Nazis and Trump still came down on the wrong side. #charlottesville”

    “From Helen:

    Margaret, several people have asked me why I haven’t been writing. The truth is, honey, this isn’t funny anymore. Our President… scratch that… the moron currently occupying the White House just equated George Washington to Robert E. Lee. He can’t understand why a memorial to the symbolic founding father of our country is different than a memorial to a general in an army that fought a failed rebellion against our government.

    Mr. President, with no respect intended, I implore you to please step down. You are not qualified for the position you now hold. Quite frankly, you are not qualified to be much more than a reality TV star, a position I hold in very low regard by the way.

    There is a reason that in Germany you will find no statues of Hitler, no monuments to the Third Reich, and no Chancellor of Germany suggesting there was blame for World War 2 on both sides. And there is a reason that Robert E. Lee himself didn’t want statues honoring the Confederacy. In his own words, “I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”

    Mr. President, you joked recently that you might one day be on Mount Rushmore. I wonder at times what color the sky is in your world? Are you really this stupid? How in God’s name did you become the leader of the free world?

    No, Mr. President. There were not many sides in Charlottesville. There were just two. Right and wrong. There were white supremacists on one side and Americans who believe all people are created equal on the other side. There were hate groups and there were Americans who oppose hate. There were neo-Nazis and… Do we really have to go beyond that? Isn’t that what we call a non-starter? There were Nazi’s, you stupid piece of shit, and still that wasn’t clear enough for you? Really? You couldn’t even get this one right? On one side there were Nazis and on the other there were no Nazis, and you still came down on the wrong side?

    Now, I don’t know what the Alt Left is, but if it’s the group that wants to stand up to neo-Nazis and white supremacists to end racism, bigotry and hate then sign me up. I suggest however that it is just more crap from the endless pile of crap falling freely from your mouth. Mr. President, how many Alt Right funerals took place this week?”

    https://margaretandhelen.com/2017/08/16/on-one-side-there-were-nazis-and-on-the-other-side-there-were-no-nazis-and-trump-still-came-down-on-the-wrong-side-charlottesville/

    • jesterpunk

      That is really cute that they setup a blog to talk. They both sound really cool too.

      • Parakeetist

        Yeah, they are cool. :)

      • mancityRed6

        and now I’m imagining them writing their respective parts drinking tea or coffee with a healthy slosh of liquor.
        wait. that’s just me.
        nevermind.

        • Three Finger Salute

          I’m picturing it being a talk show, hosted by Margaret Trudeau and Helen Mirren. Neither of whom has any time or tolerance for Trump’s bullshit.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          oh man, the absolute BEST is the yearly Thanksgiving post, I WANT to post the most recent, but the 2015 is classic:

          Dear Family,

          This will be my first Thanksgiving without my gallbladder. And I just learned that we have one more special needs eater in the family. I’ll tell you what, this year I will meet you all halfway. I’ll make the same meal I make every year and those of you with vegitarian, vegan and gluten issues can stop eating halfway through the meal. Problem solved.

          The other rules around the house will be a little lax this year as well. What can I say? I’m feeling generous.

          1. I have new floors. If it’s raining outside, leave your shoes outside. If it’s not raining, leave your shoes outside. Molly, those spikes you call heels better not come near my floors. Leave them at home because if you leave them outside the kids might use them for lawn darts.

          2. If you have children, then you are called a parent which means you should be parenting. Just because you don’t care what your house looks like, doesn’t mean I don’t care about mine. Keep an eye on your kids so I don’t have to keep an eye on my things.

          3. Despite modern advances in the food industry, turkeys are only so big. We are a large family and because of modern advances in the food industry our asses are big as well. So this leaves us with the need to achieve a delicate balance between how much we CAN eat vs. how much we WILL eat to make sure there is enough for everyone. Please monitor your children (see rule 2) and make sure they take only what they will eat. And if you don’t get enough, don’t worry. There’s always pie.

          4. I absolutely cook with bacon and bacon grease. I use lots of butter, cream, salt and even a little sugar. Thanks to the advances in modern medicine, you can bring your medical prescriptions with you and leave your dietary restrictions at home.

          5. Upon arriving at my house look for the basket on the entry table. Deposit all cell phones in that basket. Upon departure, you can take the damn thing with you, but in the meantime maybe you can try having an actual relationship with your loved ones.

          6. You needn’t bring anything, but if you insist on bringing a dish, then go ahead and bring it. If it’s good, we’ll make room on the buffet. If it’s jello salad, we’ll make room in the trash.

          7. Speaking of trash, mine gets picked up on Wednesdays by a truck . Your children’s gets picked up by you today. (see rule 2)

          8. Unlike the Trump’s table, everyone is welcome at mine. Just let me know in advance if you are bringing guests so I can make sure we have enough food to go around.

          9. The best photographs are the ones I am not in. Point your camera in a different direction. If you want photos of me, I have plenty to share that were taken in the 1950’s. Back then the camera was kinder to me.

          10. If you want to talk politics come sit next to me. There’s a good chance I’ll either convince you to change your politics or change your desire to talk about politics. And if neither happens, I can always turn off my hearing aids.

          Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I am thankful to still be here. I mean it really.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        as Parakettist noted, they are cool. One of them had a gay nephew, who i think is the one that set up this tool for them to communicate, who wrote an open letter to a pastor after he made some shitty comments during a wedding the nephew and his husband attended.

        This is it:

        Dear Father _____,

        My name is ______. I am a member of a large family that has a long and rich history with your parish. My father’s family is one of the founding families for both your town and your parish. I am writing to you today after attending my niece’s wedding this past weekend. I am sure you were aware that it was a wedding ceremony only and not a mass because the groom’s family is Methodist. Because of that, and because the bride comes from a very large family, I would have hoped that your words that day would have been welcoming and accepting of people from various backgrounds and beliefs.

        I am gay. I attended the wedding with my husband. We were legally married in the State of Texas last December on our 15th anniversary as a couple. We attended the wedding with our daughter whom you might have seen turning the pages of sheet music for the pianist. That pianist is my goddaughter. Her mother is my sister-in-law. She was raised by two women. She was not raised Catholic but converted when she married my brother. You also might remember the very emotional Maid of Honor. That was my other goddaughter, the sister of the bride. One of the groomsmen was my nephew. In addition to his having two gay uncles, he has a lesbian aunt on his mother’s side. His mother and father and their other children also attended the wedding. His sisters were married at your beautiful church as well. In fact, the bride’s brother, my nephew, was also married at your church. Many of our long-time family friends also attended.

        Most of the guests that day were seeing us for the first time since we announced our marriage. You might be surprised at how many congratulations and hugs were exchanged in the back of the church when we arrived. My cousin gave me a hug and let us know that her daughter, another goddaughter of mine, wished us well. Her daughter is in a same-sex relationship. Everyone was so welcoming and kind to us. That is what families, friends, and decent people should do when they see one another.

        I am not sure why you decided to use my niece’s wedding as the time to speak out against same-sex marriage, but needless to say your unkind words upset many of the wedding guests that day. The fact that you linked your most unwelcoming tone to the teachings of Pope Francis was particularly sad as I had, in recent years, begun to think that maybe I might one day feel a little bit of comfort being back in the church of my childhood. I guess the Pope’s words of welcome, forgiveness and healing have simply been good sound bites for the press.

        Father, you can rest assured that I am now even more resolved that there is no place in the Catholic Church for me or my family. After listening to you, I am even more content with my decision not to raise my daughter in the church. Two sisters-in-law, a brother and two nieces let me know that evening that they are also done with the Catholic Church. I guess if your plan was to turn people away from the church while blemishing an otherwise beautiful day for the bride, then you can feel good in your accomplishments.

        https://margaretandhelen.com/2016/05/04/the-separation-between-church-and-state-is-razor-thin-but-cuts-from-the-church-are-so-much-more-painful/

    • yyyaz

      Today we are all Margaret and Helen.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    The whole smug “we conservatives never play victim” thing–it’s funny that conservatives believe this about themselves.

    I mean, funny not funny, as well as funny funny, but still: funny.

    • mancityRed6

      it’s funny ’cause they’re playing the victim.

  • La forza del resistino

    A conservative woman is one who darns the holes in her kid’s bread bag snow boots so they last another week.

    • Suttree

      And castrates hogs for her lunch.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Not all poor people are conservative? Don’t mind me, I’m probably missing your point.

      • La forza del resistino

        You’re correct to point out the error of my over generalization. I was trying to point out a IA senator, who promoted her humble beginnings as a logical path to conservatism. Then again, I’m a coastal elite from CO.

  • Canis Greyhame

    I too like to include my IQ number whenever I’m getting snooty on Twitter, so as to force everyone to STFU and agree.

    (Just kidding, I don’t even know my IQ … and I never tweet.)

    • SeeTrain65

      My IQ is 376, proving unquestionably that not only do I believe IQ is the number of days in a year, but also I don’t know how many days there are in a year.

    • h4rr4r

      89, which is pretty darn good. It is out of 100, right?

    • mancityRed6

      bragging about your IQ anywhere outside of a MENSA application automatically makes me cut it in half.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        People who brag about their IQ score are SMRT

        • Yes, we is! I have an IQ of four bazillion kajillion!

          • Msgr_MΩment

            Mine is a full eight inches long.

          • Suttree

            Metric!

      • Shanzgood

        I didn’t know that until I accidentally mentioned mine in public on Jezebel and got scorched.

    • Suttree

      I took an IQ test when I was 12 or 13. The shrink that my parents were sending me to suggested it. They never told me the results. I really didn’t want to go there, so we spent about 1/2 of the time playing chess.

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      That you never tweet raises your IQ so it is win win.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      I do know mine (thanks to a test group study I was a part of when I was a teen) and it’s impressive enough, but I’m a dipstick, so not sure it really means much.

      • puredog

        I was tested early and my mom told me the results but, after I got to know her better, I decided she was lying.

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          LOL, that’s possibly the reason for my score too–mom inflation.

    • Christopher Story

      I took an IQ test when I was 16, but I’m certain after all the years of hard drugs and binge drinking, I must’ve shaved off a few points by now.

      • Doug Langley

        I took an IQ test in second grade. I asked Mom how I did and she said “I’m not going to tell you. I don’t want you to get a swelled head.”

        • Shanzgood

          That’s about when I took mine. My parents told me the result but I didn’t know what it meant until 2009 when a friend said that 100 was “average” and I thought that meant “can barely tie shoes”.

  • Jennifer R

    I started using tweetdeck today. Holy crap is it a better experience than default twitter. Compare the first picture to the second.
    Normal twitter:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef36d1c05fb3c36571fd70569cab41d6bb51093cdd333bf6512d358b781f819e.jpg
    Tweetdeck:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c01148e21b3698c2c5a442fabda9df984354aad81b871c1ad8c86956cd8bc116.jpg

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      ‘Tis an app?

      • Jennifer R

        tweetdeck.twitter.com
        There is an iOS app as well.

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          Thx. I’ll check it out.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • Suttree

      Soooo pretty! I love black cats.

      • Shanzgood

        I have one! He’s 14 and so IDGAF except now when he tries to molest my legs and feet over my blanket. Fukkin weirdo.

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          All cats at fukkin weirdos. Which is why we love them ❤️

          • Shanzgood

            Ok fine but I wish he’d stop trying to mate with me from the shins down. Plus stop play-biting my bare legs when he finds them. This is new and I took him to the vet two months ago and she told me he needs a special diet to reduce his pH levels in his bladder. Well, he’s been on that this whole time and he’s only calmed down a little when I do the back of his neck like a kitten, which leads me to believe it’s just a behavioral issue.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            bastard cat does the “love bites” and somehow taught it to babby kitty.

            Whenever they do that, i immediately withdraw the hand or leg and they get a timeout without said hand or leg to rub on or get scritches.

            It took Bastard cat awhile, but he kinda gets it. He still does it though.

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            Interesting, since my 5 yr old male has become a nibbler in the last 3 months or so. Maybe I should have his pH evaluated.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Mid life crisis maybe? Get him a drop top Camaro in red …

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            If you only knew how totally into that whole scene he’d be…

          • Shanzgood

            Vet thought he was having a utinary irritation and trying to get some um…relief. I guess he’s just really affectionate with me because I’m the only one he’s ever done it with even though he switches sleeping spots with.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          last night bastard cat came in meowing about how there’s no food in his bowl. I ignored him, cause there always is.

          Then he sunk one of his fucking scalpel claws in my butt cheek.

          So I got up to show him there was food – as soon as he saw there was food, he bolted toward the front door. So I went to let him out, as soon as I did THAT, he bolted through the kitty door to the garage.

          Yeah, they’re fucking weirdos.

        • Suttree

          Lucky!

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          He’s eight, and had to have several bad teeth removed. Still pissed off that he isn’t allowed to eat his favorite dry food yet.

          And he has a sunrise alarm built in that requires him to pat our faces with his paw at 5:30am. Fukkin weirdo.

          • therblig

            blig jr’s cat is black and 14 and has 3 legs (cancer) and although we love him, he is a monster who has decided that 4:42AM is time to wake us up by knocking things off the nightstand or shredding papers.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            The other cat used to hop up on the dresser and play with Mrs Land Shark’s jewelry in the jewelry box. Just loud enough to be annoying. At 1:36am.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      (Love your wall color.)

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        It’s blue-grey … very calming. Yarmouth Blue, apparently, according to the paint can.

        • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

          The calming is definitely working on your chilled-out cat.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            That is his guard the house position … he views the chipmunks, squirrels, and birds that come to taunt him endlessly.

    • h4rr4r

      I see a white spot!

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        OK … so he’s an Oreo, then.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      You’re now qualified to be on FOX news.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        I can’t be qualified … I don’t have the legs for the job.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      incredible color eyes!

  • Maclare 🌒

    My stock answer for years to people who ask why I’m not conservative is that it wasn’t conservatives who gave me the right to vote. There are of course dozens of reasons, but this is the one they usually don’t have a comeback for.

    I’ve never yet met a conservative woman who regretted her voting rights, but odds are I will now, so I’ll need a new retort.

    • Shanzgood

      Are there really conservative women who think we women shouldn’t have the right to vote?

      • mancityRed6

        Coulter has said as much.

        • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

          Though she doesn’t believe the nonsense she spouts, right, as is the case with all provocateurs?

          • mancityRed6

            if it was legal, she’d be shouting “fire” in all the movie theaters just because it would make some people angry.

          • Shanzgood

            If libtards were advocating it, she’d lose what’s left of her mind

          • Maclare 🌒

            I’m sure she wants only other women to not vote. It doesn’t apply to HER.

      • h4rr4r

        Yeah, that Nazi Mormon lady.

      • weejee

        I have a cousin who might lean that direction, but I haven’t talked to her in years.

      • Jennifer R

        Phyllis Schlafly too.

        • Shanzgood

          OT: Do you go on the FaceBorg?

          • Jennifer R

            I quit it back when they were doing that realID bullshit. I hang around the twitters though.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Facebook is vile and I’d suggest to anyone to avoid it.

            – person who used to write software to perform psychographic analysis of facebook users

          • Jennifer R

            Yeah, on twitter I found a gaggle of nice women/enbies to hang out and chat with.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            I used to do it to twitter users as well. Sigh. Not my finest moment.

          • Jennifer R

            Haha, well I don’t need software to start diagnosing twitter users.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            At volume for either marketing or influence you do. Cambridge Analytica for instance (not who I worked for).

          • Jennifer R

            Thankfully, my stock in trade is ridicule.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            And you still talk to people? After that, I’d be hiding in a hermit cave with no internet access. People are weird and scary and crazy and basically fucked up.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            They were just abstract objects to put into a large machine learning system. Otherwise, yes.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            This is the tech industry I’m in … we sell the infrastructure to handle the quantity of data at scale. And some of the shit our customer’s do with it is downright Orwellian.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            If you’re at the company I think you’re at (AWS or google), I may be joining you soon…

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Not hardware infrastructure … the software side. AWS is pursuing me pretty hard, but I’d be back to a small fish in a big pond. Pretty good where I’m at.

          • Shanzgood

            Just wondered because I was on a trans discussion and there was a Jennifer R and I thought it might be you.

          • Jennifer R

            Nope, not me. cool though.

          • Shanzgood

            Yeah. There are a lot more out there being visible. I’m glad of that.

      • Rick Hill

        Well, we’re talking about the party that include people who want Obamacare destroyed but to keep their ACA. They don’t necessarily equate what they have with where it came from.

        • puredog

          Yeah, but some of them have an IQ of 132.

          • Rick Hill

            Mehbe they’re talking about their collection of body parts. Their Eye que is 132

      • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

        I believe Ann Coulter has stated such.

        • Parakeetist

          She’s an idiot.

  • weejee

    Rhymes with runt Phyllis must be so happy inside Dante’s last ring given the Rs are in charge. (and in keeping with Helen & Margaret)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9166e939668d1568d1271d1f5f7bca2a997660b4a4e4ff1b16ce517bb7234a5d.jpg

    • therblig

      she probably died thinking hillary was going to be president.

      good.

    • Panika MCD

      cunts are wonderful, powerful, fun and should not be thought of in association with Phyllis. cunt has its roots in a word meaning queen.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Phyllis is awaiting her room on the new TRUMP level that they are digging right now.

  • Alternative Dog

    Conservative women don’t need a day. We are strong, fearless, and never play victim!

    Until you suffer the horrifying injustice of having to switch seats on an airplane in which case you will bitch and whine about it for days on end.

    • Stulexington

      We never play victim, we’re always really serious about it..

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      You don’t need a day? Great then shut up and get me a sammich and a beer.

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        heh heh!

    • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

      Unless you are a female Palin! Or Ann coulter. Or that skanky county clerk who wouldn’t marry teh gayz. Or a Duggar incubator..

      Oh dang. you were mentioning coulter… I’ll see myself out.

    • CeeQ

      We never play the victim. Except right now in this comment as I bitch and piss about other women calling me on my shit.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      The only good thing about all these non-laws and executive orders Donnie Dumbass is signing is they can be easily repealed.

  • Rick Hill
    • Bobathonic

      HAHAHAHAH! That’s terrible.

    • altleftjohn

      You should be ashamed!
      .
      .

      *snort!*

    • Suttree

      I am not going to ask how you came across this. Just wash your hands when you’re done.

  • FukuiSanYesOta

    Awesome, it’s up! This is my local park this morning. See the flag at the top of the T? :)

    The organizers sorted out a helicopter to take this.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f72030f5f25ba998eb69d43fdad8d8a4ea62d47882b4d1e34414dc358af2ad4.jpg

    • Christopher Story

      Now that’s an organized protest!

    • altleftjohn

      I’d recognize you anywhere.

    • Panika MCD

      last time I was part of one of these, we spelled out “Beyond Coal”. we’re closing the Fayetteville coal fire power plant 2 years earlier than originally planned.

    • It sure looks like you’re wearing pants in this picture…

      • Panika MCD

        as long as he’s not non-commenting in the photo, I say it’s legit.

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Nope. The flag is to hide my wedding tackle.

        • Shanzgood

          That’s some flag…

          • Gayer Than Thou

            That’s some wedding tackle!

          • Shanzgood

            I’d stay single.

          • CarrieTHanson

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    • Brutal !

      Nice work people. Next time do this on the White House lawn, hopefully the orange fuckwit will see it.

      And tremble.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      you got in!

      And even I don’t know what that is and i’ve seen some weird food in my life.

      • Churros doused in chocolate, vanilla, and lemon sauce

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          see if they have any apple cinnamon empanadas.

          Yum yum.

          • I left already. Had to wait in line too long for anything, no where to sit. Poor organization overall, good food though

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            awww, bummer. After you waited so long.

            Did you at least get the names of some restaurants you can visit later?

          • Most of them aren’t local…brought trucks in for the event. Only local place is a Chipotle-esque chain that is actually pretty good (excellent guac) but they’ll deliver to my apt, so i tried other stuff

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ah, bummer. I went to Taste of Chicago and the Miami beach Food and Wine Festival, so in both there were little booths were you could buy or get samples of food from all the local restaurants.

            And htere’s nothing wrong with pretty good. I abhor the “it’s not traditional” crap. Fuck it, is it good or not?

          • It’s very good. They also deliver to my office and are my go to when i forget or don’t want the lunch i brought

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            nice! Makes me feel better about someday moving to canada.

          • Overall, if you’re in even a medium sized city, you’re gonna get a good selection of international food. My favourite Thai place here doesn’t deliver which is sad.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i found some dive thai shop in chicago that i loved.

            Yeah, I got a stomach ache after every meal, but it was good, plentiful and cheap.

          • My fave place here is a little upscale for everyday. Good value though. My fave place in Toronto is super efficient. My whole group of friends love that one and we make a point to go together during the film festival

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            speaking of which, did you ever check out that dude’s film blog i told you about, Dennis Hartley?

          • Yes. I have it book marked for those rare occasions i am not at work

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            cool, he does Seattle FF every year I think (and has an endless supply of recs, of course).

          • You should go watch Colossal if you haven’t yet

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ugh, so many things I want to watch.

          • I watched The Circle this morning. Not as bad as reviews said, but ending was a huge letdown

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            im’ rewatching z nation.

            It’s a stupid and silly zombie show, but once you let go, like it’s really good. Just fucking balls to the wall crazy (you have to give about 6 or 9 episodes till it gets good).

          • I’m watching The Newsroom and eating my Churros

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            you were watching newsroom when i went to class this morning!

            I know for a fact that movie aint’ 8 hours long.

            ; )

          • HBO TV series by Aaron Sorkin

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            oh, what the fuck was I thinking of? Network? No, says IMDB, the other movie about tv news people, from the 80’s. God I suck at names.

          • No judgement from me. I know almost no one’s brain is like mine. There is reason i made the Jeopardy contestants’ pool a fee years ago

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            fuck, broadcast news, that’s what i was thinking of.

            (considering i worked in that industry, you’d think i’d know).

          • That was a good movie, so were Network and The Paper.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            I love the paper! Such a cool flick. Keaton is genius in it.

          • Suttree

            I watched it a few days ago. It wasn’t terrible, but it was rather meh.

          • Suttree

            I dled it last night. Might watch it tonight.

          • It was my favourite thing at last year’s festival

          • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

            Mr.Thalamus and I just watched that last week end- very good!

          • Yay! More people liking the weird movies!

          • data_ninja

            He has some very good movie recs. I watched “Rare Exports” because of his review of it. Helluva Xmas flick!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            IKR? I like him cause he’s not pretentious – yeah, he’ll get deep into a movie, but it’s mostly about the most important thing about movies, “is it enjoyable?”

            He’s got an encyclopedic (or google-ic) memory for movies.

          • Suttree

            It’s odd, there are like 6 Thai places in my town and only 1 delivers. Reliably anyway.

          • Parakeetist

            Mmmmmm

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            don’t let janecita see us, she’s cuban and swears empanadas need meat in them.

            ; p

        • Rick Hill

          I’m not certain butt this may mean you’re going to hell.

          • And it’s a tasty road trip

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol, i like your style – but i always have.

            ; p

          • I wore electric blue tights and a black tunic dress today. I am classy on my way to hell

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol. I went to class this morning in black basketball shorts, black t-shirt, sandals and white socks.

            I figured 8 fucking am on a saturday, everybody’s gonna be looking their worst.

            Nope, plenty of cute women in their 20’s looking cute and fashionable.

            Doh.

          • They’re too young to have figured out that sleep is more valuable

          • Panika MCD

            it’s the socks and sandals that makes me cringe here.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i am almost 40 and always did love comfy.

            I LOVE my fucking sandals. I almost wore them to monday and thursday class, but didn’t.

          • Panika MCD

            but with socks? that’s the part that’s off.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            gurl, if you had ever glimpsed my feet, you’d understand (and go blind).

          • Panika MCD

            have you considered toe shoes?

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            gah, that’s fucking worse!

            Right now i look like i don’t care (cause i don’t)…toe shoes make people move away from you, like you admitted to littering on the group w bench.

          • Panika MCD

            we have a field director over here who has them to match every outfit. we’re assuming he gets away with it because he’s former Army psy-ops.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            You know what is a good cure? Vick’s Vaporub. Put it on before bed and cover your feed with white socks. Within a month, you won’t recognize your feed. I have also heard that soaking in Listerine helps too, but not the blue kind. It dyes your skin. Use the original.

          • Suttree

            I used to do it in the snow in Vermont when I just needed to run and grab beer. $30 socks are awesome!

          • Rick Hill

            That’s what all the sinners say

          • Yup. I can resist everything, except temptation…and have you SEEN Lucifer? A follow worthy ass… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/513c346d77afd9ebc697bc414a2ad63df1b8a3db55ecfb60960701fa3b73d654.jpg

          • Three Finger Salute

            “Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name…”

          • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

            But what’s puzzling you Is the nature of my game.

    • h4rr4r

      Those are some weird looking dildos.

  • William
    • Lance Thrustwell

      Nothing better than having your wife follow these tips every day! Just wait ’til the resentment reaches psychotic levels and get ready to duck flying crockery.

      • mancityRed6

        pfft…just wait until you fall asleep.

        • Suttree

          John Bobbit can tell you all about it.

          • Three Finger Salute

            “It’s for the best…”

          • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

            Shoulda scrolled down before posting above. Sorry- great minds, and all that ?

      • Jamoche

        “And go running for the shelter of her mother’s little helper…”

      • TheFamilyThalamusPersists

        Flying crockery? Probably more like Lorena Bobbitt levels of anger.

      • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

        The psychotic ’50s wife’s weapons of choice: rolling pin and frying pan, the good old cast iron kind.

    • A Groucho Marxist

      “Be a little gay and a little more interesting” Stealth homosexual introdoctrination!!!!

    • Three Finger Salute

      “Be a little gay and a little more interesting”?

      Fake news… like any conservative publication would be encouraging that…

    • altleftjohn

      “Be a little gay”

      Well, worth a try I suppose . . .

      • Kiri the Unicorn

        *polishes hooves, brushes mane, looks hopeful*

        • therblig

          extra horn glitter?

          • kareemachan

            Where the hell do I get that?

          • Suttree

            Micheal’s. Hobby Lobby doesn’t sell it.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time
          • Kiri the Unicorn

            Not since I was a colt. I do understated elegance now.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        cinemax taught me in teh 1990’s that it totally works.

    • Suttree

      #11 Don’t call the cops when he beats you. You fucked up and you deserve it.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • janecita
  • puredog

    Those tweets are breathtaking. That is, they make me short of breath. That is, they are so profoundly stupic that they may be causing me a heart attack. Any tort lawyers here? AAACCCKKKKKK! (Thud.)

    • altleftjohn

      Better not call Marc Kasowitz . . .

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      That one with the “132” IQ? She’s not using it. Sad!

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    “So Trump also asked Sessions to drop the Arpaio case? Par for the course. Happier than ever that I did not return this man’s call in March.” — Preet Bharara.

  • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

    In honor of conservative women, I suggest that they get their very own holiday.

    International Door Mat Day February 30th.

    That is all.

    • Jamoche

      Serena Joy Appreciation Day

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    So there’s multiple cases where Trump has asked DOJ to drop a criminal case into one of his friends.

    1. Flynn, asked Comey.
    2. Arpaio, asked Sessions.

    Obstructor of Justice in Chief?

  • Panika MCD

    favorite part of Harvey so far:
    Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo’s (the police chief they stole from Austin) tweets. he’s so busy, but trying to get info out to people and has had several auto-correct fails. I miss that dude.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i hadn’t realized Acevedo went ot Houston. I think he was APD chief when I was there.

      • Panika MCD

        they stole him in December.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      This sounds fun. Link?

      • Panika MCD

        ummm…I’ve been friends with him for years so I’m just seeing the automatic reposts on FacePlant. google “Art Acevedo twitter” and I’m guessing it’ll be the first result.

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸
          • Panika MCD

            be prepared for the possibility that it amuses me because I know him.

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            I have skimmed and am suitably impressed that he is ON IT, all of it. And also appreciate the multi-lingual outreach. This is how a government official should work, with diligence and concern for all his constituents.

          • Panika MCD

            he’s also an immigrant.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω
          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            IK, R? We’re in the Trump era now, bitches! Fend for yo’self.

            Or in the immortal words of the orange Dumbass himself, “good luck!”

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Thanks for that, you douchenozzle. Maybe if you appointed COMPETENT KNOWLEDGABLE PEOPLE to your cabinet, the citizens wouldn’t be fending for themselves.

          • Panika MCD

            this is why TX had 4 VRA violations declared in 9 days. if we were as bad as everyone paints us, they wouldn’t need so much voter suppression to keep the GOP dominant.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            Dayum, tornadoes already!

  • gallbladder

    I hear Andrea Tantaros will be celebrating by making sandwiches for the boys.

    • Suttree

      In her bikini?

      • gallbladder

        Most likely. But not before her Brazilian.

        • lowenufc

          and there goes my dinner…

          • gallbladder

            Again, apologies. But please, have some cake.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Dude! We just ate!

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          Ok, I’m putting the both of you in timeouts. Ick!

          • gallbladder

            Suttree started it!

          • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

            That made me hungry.

        • Red Bird

          As nature intended.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          It is not {{{cough}}} nice to make {{{cough}}} a dude {{{cough,cough}}} inhale all the {{{cough}}} smoke in his {{{cough,cough}}} cigar!! {{{cough,cough,cough,cough}}} all at one time {{{cough,cough,cough,cough}}}!!!!! {{{cough,cough,cough,cough}}}

          • gallbladder

            Seems I really hit a nerve with that line.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            No sh{{{cough}}}it!

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      The correct spelling of a sandwich made by a conservative woman for a man is ‘SAMMICH.’

  • rocktonsam

    I hear conservative gals ain’t so conservative in the sack… hubba bubba.

    • gallbladder

      Just ask Bristol Palin.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        I don’t find a spread-eagled sack of potatoes to be that terribly interesting for some reason.

      • Panika MCD

        EJACULATE CONCEPTION LIBELZ!

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          yep, Panika’s imbibing again. It’s easy to tell.

          ; p

          • Panika MCD

            I have not started drinking yet. I’m rationing!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            then it’s cabin or sine die fever!

          • Panika MCD

            AOT, K. you have no idea how much stupid was in that TDHCA hearing.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Just think of all of the aspirin that were saved.

        • Walter Wellstone

          Cunt libelz!!!1!!1!!1!!!!11!!!

          • Panika MCD

            I did that down thread.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Do they actually move while so engaged?

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      I hear conservative Catholic gals ain’t so conservative in the sack. FIFY

    • mancityRed6

      I’ll let you test that theory. I’ll be somewhere else watching Futurama.

  • CO
  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Protesters turn out in San Francisco despite canceled rally

    Hundreds of counter-protesters gathered near a barricaded San Francisco park Saturday despite the cancellation of a free-speech rally that city leaders feared could draw right-wing extremists.

    The planned gathering by Patriot Prayer had been the centerpiece of a weekend of protests in the Bay Area that had raised concern among police and elected officials two weeks after right-wing activists, including neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, fought with anti-racism protesters in the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia.

  • Red Bird

    It appears that the Charlottesville white supremacist rally was planned in the Trump DC hotel. Richard Spencer is a regular there.
    https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/the-charlottesville-rally-was-apparently-planned-at-trump-international-hotel/

  • Carpe Vagenda

    L-R: peach/tomato/black bean/corn salsa, beefsteak red sauce, heirloom red sauce, peach chutney and mission fig jam.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49de9b5402b7fd8546923a28aa810b22aa2078cc573fbd2dd34f32af6b66526f.jpg

    • DrBigHead

      Quite an impressive stock. Do you know something I don’t?

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Just that for various reasons having to do with school systems we raised our kid in a 750 square feet space and I’m intoxicated by having a pantry.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Amazing! How long did that take? When I do san marzano it takes hours!

      • Carpe Vagenda

        It helps when the recent graduate is at home and at loose ends.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      you and my mom would have a blast together. Those fucking jars are all over the garage – but her arthritis makes it hard to do these days.

      (and that fig jam looks great. I just went in to ask, the one i liked was blackberry serrano jam. Sweet and dark with a hint of spice at the end. She also made peach habanero jam. She said she would let me share recipes, if you’re interested).

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Yes, please.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      If I wasn’t already in bed, I’d share a pic of all of the preserves (mostly fruit, some salsas) I did this season. By sheer volume, though, you have me beat by a country mile.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Well, her majesty might. But we have a huge covered roasting pan that serves for a very capacious processing bath.

  • Rick Hill

    Saw this at weather underground, the five day forecast. Is this damn thing really going to just sit there till Thursday?
    https://icons.wunderground.com/data/images/at201709_5day.gif

    • mackafritz

      I think that’s why they predict 50″ of rain in some places.

      • Rick Hill

        Holy smokes.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          in areas that flood if you have a productive spit.

          it’s gonna be bad.

          • Count Awesome

            Will Trump blame both the hurricane and people who live there for this too, also?

          • anon_the_great

            The Black Guy did it

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            who knows, but he’s been AWFULLY interested and positive on this. Maybe he’s not trying to “pull a katrina?”

            I seriously have no idea:
            https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/901579350662938624

          • jesterpunk

            Is it going to be like other things where he says some nice stuff then never follows through and everyone pretends he did an amazing job?

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            or more specifically, take credit for the work of dedicated emergency management professionals at hte local, state and fed levels.

          • Permit-holder Ron

            I think he’s doing that already.

          • SeeTrain65

            More rainfall than Obama ever had! WINNING!

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            I think that is why they have him sequestered at Camp David. McMasters and Kelly had to know that this was going to be a bad, bad time.

          • DrBigHead

            Will he even acknowledge it happened?

          • Jamoche

            He went to the trouble of having a video shot of him looking at things at FEMA. Sheesh, what more do you want? http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/24/trump-sends-texas-propaganda-video-hurricane-harvey-preparedness-tips.html

          • Rick Hill

            “Did you see the response to this? The best response to a hurricane ever…they’re going to study our methods at disaster schools for hundreds of years. I directed all of it myself, told the people to do their best and look at how well that turned out”

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            this was my thought going back to yesterday.

          • Rick Hill

            I stole it from you. It’s mine now

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            nah! GMTA.

          • Rick Hill

            No, really. I read your comment and now it’s my idea

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            don’t tell me that, i might develop self esteem!

            ; p

          • Rick Hill

            Well, I like to think I made it funnier….

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            you did actually…
            ; )

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            Why don’t they just move? /s

    • anon_the_great

      Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

    • Jenny

      Yes. Houston is getting all the attention but rain is pouring between San Antonio and Austin. Small towns like Luling are under water.

      I’m north of Austin, nothing major happening here, just constant rain.

  • OrG

    Right-wingers just don’t understand ANYTHING.

  • wait! what?

    I kinda like how S. Gordon included her ignorance quotient in her tweet. Classy…

  • jesterpunk
    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Because actual “people” buy it?

      • jesterpunk

        But why? I don’t understand people sometimes.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Consider that there are people who do not have anything worth understanding about them.

          • Permit-holder Ron

            ‘Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls would scarcely get your feet wet.’

    • janecita

      Some women disgust me!

    • Three Finger Salute
      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Crap. Nothing in my size.

        • jesterpunk

          The hoodie has larger sizes.

      • jesterpunk

        I want that shirt, but I guess i will settle for the hoodie since it has larger sizes.

      • A Bisexual Unicorn

        Canada also has problems. This gay conservative vegetarian Canadian talks about some of Justin Trudeau’s in this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq3llu-lw8E

        All in all he is a funny guy and does raises some good points. I watch him because he is funny but also just good to listen to many view points.

        • Permit-holder Ron

          The Liberals have ALWAYS been just-somewhat-left-of-center. When the Cons were the ‘Progressive Conservatives’ they were slightly-RIGHT-of-center. Canadian politics never veers very far from side to side, which is why the NDP have never formed a government. (The Cons got in because of Liberal cronyism. They were tossed out because Canadians don’t like politicians who act like Americans.)
          Singh looks interesting, but I suspect that if he gains the nomination his main contribution will be to push the Liberals a bit more to the left.

    • Permit-holder Ron

      Because stupidity is an epidemic and they don’t want to be cured.

  • Panika MCD

    this is Otis. Otis was found walking down the street in Sinton, TX with a whole bag of dog food in his mouth. he has since been returned to his cabin fever and family. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b675498d891e841253cfb28d34eab4af8d3b89f2017e4a90148a8b7b42abbc91.jpg

    • jesterpunk

      Otis wants food when Otis wants food and no hurricane will stop him from getting what he wants.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i met a really fantastic painter (through a roundabout way that involved a hot as hell older hair stylist) who took care of abandon dogs in her tiny ass texas hometown.

      Sorry, I felt the need to share that.

    • Count Awesome

      He’s probably smarter than his owners knowing Texas.

      • Panika MCD

        our 28 million+ residents thank you for your evaluation. wonder what you must think of me and TX Dept…

        • Walter Wellstone

          And yours truly. Don’t you forget.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            sorry walter, I forget.

            How are you things in your neck of the woods?

          • Walter Wellstone

            Raining like everywhere else but OK. We’re in NW Austin, pretty high up compared to the Slaughter Ln and Onion Creek areas.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        please to scroll down and see my letter to America.

      • motmelere

        I’ve met many smart and beautiful Texans; the dumbasses are just louder.

        • Panika MCD

          after we make a horcrux to smash Mucus in the elections they won’t be. having trouble getting people past “but mixing the parties is evil?” of course it is, but Mucus is more so.

      • A Bisexual Unicorn

        Every state has some really stupid people but also has smart people. Don’t forget that.

    • Rick Hill

      “Stupid people. You can stay in this damn storm but Otis is out of here. Imma take this with me too, you all can starve.”

      • Panika MCD

        maybe he’s looking for his Milo?

        • Persistent Demme

          Great movie!

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      priorities

    • Raan

      Otis decided to go out and get himself a bargain.

    • MilwaukeeKent

      Looters! I knew it!

    • Persistent Demme

      Awww, buddy!
      Everything’s fine now!

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    How does Trump’s pardoning of Joe Arpaio compare to other presidential pardons? It doesn’t.

    When Trump took the Oath of Office, he promised to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” Now, just over 200 days into his presidency, he has used his power to pardon someone who was convicted for explicitly violating said Constitution.

  • Hee. It looks like today is also “Robyn Day” as well. 😆

  • Walter Wellstone

    Well, conservative women are stupid. It is sheer stupidity for a woman to adhere to a school of thought that categorizes her as a second-class human and, yet, many do just that. Any questions?

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Authoritarian mind set would cause that phenomenon.

    • Count Awesome

      “Behind ever Republican man sits a submissive woman.”

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Ahead of every Republican kneels a submissive woman, also too. Sometimes, even the same woman. It’s been known to happen from time to time.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Submissive women libelz. Consenting adults and all that.

        • Raan

          Above every Republican stands a guy getting head in an airport bathroom.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            {{{pauses and then sagely nods head}}}

    • Panika MCD

      the conservative school of thought doesn’t do that and Edmund Burke would like to stop spinning in his grave. he didn’t get in that argument with Mary Wollstonecraft because he thought she was stupid.

      • Lord Jim

        Thanks for prompting me to peruse the Wikipedia article on MW’s A Vindication of the Rights of Men. This passage rocked:

        Man preys on man; and you mourn for the idle tapestry that decorated a
        gothic pile, and the dronish bell that summoned the fat priest to
        prayer. You mourn for the empty pageant of a name, when slavery flaps
        her wing, and the sick heart retires to die in lonely wilds, far from
        the abodes of men….Why is our fancy to be appalled by terrific
        perspectives of a hell beyond the grave?—Hell stalks abroad;—the lash
        resounds on the slave’s naked sides; and the sick wretch, who can no
        longer earn the sour bread of unremitting labour, steals to a ditch to
        bid the world a long good night—or, neglected in some ostentatious
        hospital, breathes his last amidst the laugh of mercenary attendants.

        Such misery demands more than tears—I pause to recollect myself; and
        smother the contempt I feel rising for your rhetorical flourishes and
        infantine sensibility.

        • Panika MCD

          the whole fight is pretty hilarious.

      • Walter Wellstone

        I think ol’ Edmund would agree with me if he had a 5-minute exchange with the likes of Sarah Palin and Tomi Lahren.

        • Panika MCD

          he’d also say they were not conservatives.

    • Claire

      Well, it might be stupidity, or it might be a completely different set of priorities.

      Currently, conservative men and conservative women have a thing in common: they both think they shouldn’t have to compete for the American Dream on a level playing field. In essence, they want material success handed to them just because they show up and hold out their hand. But in the conservative, patriarchal ’50s-style social structure, men have to show up and hold out their hands every day at their jobs, while women only have to get lucky once. Marry a successful man and you can (in theory, though almost never in practice) coast for the rest of your life, passing from the protection of your father to the protection of your husband, never having to face direct responsibility for how the bills are going to get paid or the kids are going to be fed. You essentially never have to grow up; some man will always be there to provide for you.

      Now, this isn’t what I personally would want, but I can certainly see the attraction in never having to take care of yourself or compete for resources with people who are probably better at it. You trade being a second-class citizen for not having the responsibilities that come with being a first-class one. It’s the gender equivalent of looking at your boss and going “Wow, I really wouldn’t want that guy’s job.”

      So – maladaptive, ill-advised, likely to end in disaster of a caliber similar to Serena Joy in The Handmaid’s Tale, but stupid? I don’t know. A lot depends on whether they made that trade with their eyes open, and whether it worked out for them in the end.

  • BloviateMe

    It just got up from my nap, and it dawned on me, with my 82 IQ, that it seems an appropriate way to showcase women’s equality day, by proving that women can be equally as stupid as men.

    It’s probably already been said, though. so I’ll enhance my comment with this owl.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4c60872e686a07d210358abfb6cfcf5ea9ded995237b20292eb92832f019c6c.jpg

    • Bozilingus

      I was expecting that picture of Callista Gingrich.

    • Permit-holder Ron

      ‘Oh, WOW.’

      • BloviateMe

        LOL, thank you for humoring me.

  • Daredevil
    • Christopher Boscarino

      That guy. I swear, I don’t agree with him, but he’s entitled to his idiot opinion just like me. But whining about how your female characters are just so much better (Sarah Connor) and implying we should all be grateful to him instead of Patty Jenkins? Can you you be a bigger jerk?

      • Daredevil

        Titanic is overrated and uninspired and Avatar’s allegory would’ve been better if the main hero wasn’t a generic military white guy.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Thank you! Titanic is a godawful shitfest.

          • Daredevil

            It’s like hey let’s take a story about a bunch of people who died and turn it into a love story. Oh and on top of that we’ll make it the most overused sort of love story.

        • Raan

          Avatar would also have been better if it weren’t just Dances with Wolves in space.

          • gallbladder

            For me, his career ended at “Aliens.”

          • Permit-holder Ron

            I like ‘Aliens’ but dammit, James, you somehow managed to ruin this – ‘The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility… I admire its purity. A survivor… unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.’ – for the sake of ramping up the finale of your movie.
            Grr…

        • Three Finger Salute

          That was my first thought too, isn’t this basically just Pocahontas with aliens? Guy thinks he’s a genius with an all-important political statement that’s sure to be treated as gospel, makes another overly expensive CGI ripoff like a common Michael Bay. Lame. Low energy. Sad.

        • Christopher Boscarino

          Plus he used the trope about how the white guy comes in and solves all the natives problems. Lucky for them a White Guy was on the case!

        • therblig

          never watched either. titanic always looked dreadful to me and references to avatar as a live action “ferngully” made me not want to watch it.

          • Daredevil

            It’s more like a live action Pocahontas.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Send them to Kathryn Bigelow instead. That fuck is still butthurt that his ex-wife won the Oscar instead of him.

    • ariel_gee_398

      James Cameron seems to have spent most of his adult life fearing we’d find out just how mediocre he was, while simultaneously proving the case against him.

    • One suspects that Alice Paul would approve.

    • Kateaux

      It seems interestingly odd that Cameron would insult Linda Hamilton’s character’s looks and mothering skills, considering that she’s one of his ex-wives and they have a child together.

    • H0mer0

      SQUEEE!!!

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Here’s How I Tricked Another Trump Supporter Into Admitting He’s a Wannabe Dictator and Con Man

    I wish I would have taken a picture of the look on his face. It was a mixture of the proverbial “deer in the headlights” and panic trying to find some way to respond after realizing I had just lured him into this trap.
    First he tried to deny Trump had done any of that, using the typical spin many of his supporters use. I went through everything I had mentioned, pointing out examples where Trump had perfectly displayed those traits …

  • Raan

    Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus.

    • Count Awesome

      I hear that in “21”‘s voice

  • Three Finger Salute

    I hope he wins, because the Mausreich is the greediest place on earth.

    Bill Nye “The Science Guy” sues Disney for $28M in unpaid royalties from 1990s TV show

    However — what really bothers me is that Disney was allowed to buy up something that aired on PUBLIC television and really should belong to all of us, because WE PAID FOR IT. Privatization sucks.

    Sesame Street is brought to you by the letters HBO now. All that bluster from Republicans about wanting to kill PBS? They already did it in 1980, when the B-movie cowboy set about tearing down public infrastructure as part of his “domestic war” against “communism.”

    Not to mention, science itself is barely a public venture anymore. It’s a bidding war and dick-measuring contest among Silicon Valley techbros, Pig Pharma execs, and corporate welfare defense contractors.

    I hope Bill wins his lawsuit against the obnoxious IP hoarders at Disney, but at the same time, I really do think something needs to be done to ensure a separation of corporation and state. So did this fine gentleman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q

  • The funny thing is that feminist DO celebrate and support all women. For instance, I recall, right on this website, that the folks here were adamant that the awful, awful women of Fox News don’t deserved to be sexually harrased, even though we know full well that they wouldn’t feel the same about others.

    What the women of these tweets are asking for “equality” it’s to be patronized (funny how people seem to both scorn and demand it in the same breath.)

    • Three Finger Salute

      the folks here were adamant that the awful, awful women of Fox News don’t
      deserved to be sexually harrased, even though we know full well that they wouldn’t feel the same about others

      #WhenTheyGoLowWeGetHigh

    • Shanzgood

      Not exactly. I remember being here for some of those arguments and seeing both supposedly feminist women and men here saying the opposite, that Fox affiliated women deserved what they got because they were on the wrong side and benefited financially from it.

      • Lord Jim

        Not ever. The End.

        • Shanzgood

          WERE YOU THERE, HENGGG?!

  • bluicebank

    The time it’s taking me to chase down my Baja Bug front end shimmy, Trump will be out of office first.

    Which means that he better stroke out soon, because I’m losing my patience on both.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      gah, i wish i still had parts my dad had. We included htem all when we sold the baja.

      • puredog

        When was the last time you saw a VW Thing on the road? I weep for them, along with 445 Volvos and old Saabs.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          my first car was a beatup yellow Type III.

          How often do you see those! (not on blocks)

    • Rasilom

      I am positive you have checked this but, Have you checked.balance on your front wheeles? My pickup threw a itty bitty balance weight one time and at.certain speeds youd swear the thing was possest. Had.em balanced and it went totally away.

      • bluicebank

        You right. Front tires
        are worn enough anyway. Tomorrow to the local tire shop for new treads and balanced. But pretty much every part I’ve replaced needed it anyway.

        So if that fixes it, Trump has 24 hours to resign to beat the clock. :-)

    • Permit-holder Ron

      My first guess would be ‘kingpins’ but I’m assuming you’re smart enough to have checked that already. Torsion bar and leading arm bushings too. There’s all sorts of places for VW suspension to wear despite its simplicity.

      • bluicebank

        Super Beetle front. No kingpins. Already did tie rod ends, idler arm bushing/bracket, steering dampener, one side of control arm bushings … so off to get new tires and balancing. Eventually the enemy will get tired and give up. lol

        • Suttree

          My suggestion was going to be tires and balance. Even if it doesn’t work you have checked something else off of the list.

          • bluicebank

            That’s the spirit!
            Tomorrow I’ll try to get the local tire shop to measure my toe-in. Hard to do with a couple of sticks and a measuring tape, cough.

          • Suttree

            My 76 bus had such sloppy steering that I sometimes had to hold the wheel beyond 1/4 turn to go straight, if there was a very slight incline in the road to either side. Between that, no speedo, and no fuel gauge I can’t believe I made it anywhere, as stoned as I was. The glories of youth!

          • bluicebank

            Cool. I once had a VW Bug with a shot steering box. I had to move the steering wheel side-to-side by about 5 inches just to keep it straight. Ah, to be so young and think that isn’t a major problem.

          • Suttree

            I never even thought of fixing it. I had enough trouble with the heliocoil popping out on the #3 cylinder. She still ran on 3 cylinders though!

          • bluicebank

            Same here. Plug wire would fall off the #2 cylinder and I’d barely notice, except uphill. Amazing little beasts of burden, they are.

          • Suttree

            After drunkenly trying to drive a logging trail right next to the house in Vermont (and being thankful for the bed), I burned the clutch up. I broke about six bolts connecting the exhaust manifolds pulling the engine (in the snow!). I never fixed that either, but I had a nice new muffler! It was almost like a back massage.

        • Permit-holder Ron

          Ooh, hope you’ll post pics here at some point. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Super Beetle-based Baja Bug.

      • Suttree

        I have never been in an older VW that didn’t have some shimmy. I assume you need to rebuild the entire front end to get rid of it.

  • Persistent Demme

    So much butthurt!
    Cry me a river, ladies!

  • Daredevil
    • BloviateMe

      Feminazi is such a dumb portmanteau. Some people reveal how dumb they are by how clever they think they are.

      • Three Finger Salute

        It’s also outdated. Now that Nazis are “in,” the new portmanteau is “femmunism.”

        • BloviateMe

          wait, for reals?

          • Three Finger Salute

            I’ve seen it all over the comments of the usual alt-reich sources. Breitbart, Return of Kings, Reddit/Voat, etc. Part of the whole “cultural Marxism” conspiracy clusterfuck and therefore, not Nazis, because feminism is totally a “Jewish Bolshevist” thing to subvert the superior white male.

            For morons, they’re disturbingly well-read (or at least cited). An early work by Engels comes up frequently as the “source” of “Jewish feminism,” where he equates capitalism to notions of male supremacism, while giving praise to “primitive” cultures that were female-centric and/or had goddess worship as part of their pantheon and were more peaceful and egalitarian. (The Wonder Woman film was talked about in this context, where it’s considered an extension of this “Jewish paganism” that “worships the mother.”) Jesus being a mama’s boy is, of course, fake news from Real Jews™.

            Usually the thread goes down a rabbit hole talking about everyone from Rosa Luxemberg and Emma Lazarus to Gloria Steinem and now female Jewish comedians, before finally going thud and expressing lament that they didn’t all just end up dead like Anne Frank.

            So, according to those usual sources, feminist = Jewish, because real Christians value “traditional family.” Betcha didn’t know that Justin Trudeau (“Jewdeau” in alt-reich parlance) is a Jewish Catholic who’s also a Muslim and lets his wife walk all over him so he can oppress white women by getting cucked. Wow, a quantum trifecta appeared! The rarest Pokémon of all!

          • BloviateMe

            It’s stunning how dedicated some folks can be, to being horrible people. Find a fucking hobby people.

          • Three Finger Salute

            They consider themselves “independent scholars” separate from the “Marxist university indoctrination.” These fuckers have probably written enough hyperlinked rants about the “Jewish question” to qualify as a PhD thesis from Trump University.

            Yet they hate actual history majors (and other humanities students) as the same “Marxists” who want “equality in the form of free shit.” Only STEM gets you a “real job,” and is therefore so totally superior to all those loser “barista” degrees. Now Trump has hired a guy who’s declared war on arts-and-humanities grads. That pig is 4chan incarnate!

            These are the types who came up with that meme I saw that still bothers me: “People who got their B.A. summa cum laude probably ended up at Starbucks making a unicorn cum latte.”

            …and yet, they worship a failed landscape painter and self-published memoirist…

  • BloviateMe
    • Shanzgood

      Wot?

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        look at the audi symbol.

      • BloviateMe

        I dunno, my nephew posted it on the place of face and it made me giggle.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Comparing yourself to others on social media is a surefire recipe for depression

      Because the Kardashians are the new Joneses and, no, the vast majority of us cannot keep up with them. Problem is, we live in a country that ties human worth to the ability (or lack thereof) to do so. The same country that, well, birthed the Internet and, as a result, Twitter and Facebook.

      • gallbladder

        Nothing like a website that quantifies–for all to see–just how “popular” one is in comparison to others. And also, too, as well as, broadcast what they made for dinner.

        I wish that fucking thing was never invented.

  • mancityRed6

    crap. I found another internet rabbit hole
    http://theworstthingsforsale.com/

    please forward my mail.

    • Raan

      I know that hole well.

      • mancityRed6

        that’s what…oh, nevermind.

        • Raan

          No, that still works, despite Republicans best efforts.

    • Shanzgood

      Do you know how to contact Schwans?

      • mancityRed6

        I usually just stop paying and make them contact me.

    • gallbladder

      Is that Stephen Baldwin on the cover of the “Cell Phonies” book?

    • BloviateMe

      Oh man, internet traps are rough. Rap battles of history destroyed an entire evening for me.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        LOVE rap battles of history.

        Thank GOD bad lip reading doesn’t post more often.

        (going over to rap battles of history again to look for new ones…what’s your favorite? The jack the ripper/hannibal lecter one is awesome).

        • I love the Ivan the great vs Alexander the great one

          • Panika MCD

            Teddy Roosevelt vs Churchill, Miley Cyrus vs Joan of Arc and Cleopatra vs Marilyn Monroe are all preferable to me.

        • BloviateMe

          I haven’t been there for awhile, but Newton and Bill Nye made me giggle.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            the Rick from Walking Dead and Walter from Breaking Bad one is good too.

          • BloviateMe

            Ugh, I haven”t seen that. Looks like I have another destroyed evening coming up soon, getting caught up.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            scroll above – and also too, super sorry – Jim Henson v. stan lee. Awesome!

          • Also very good

          • BloviateMe

            Henson v. Lee just sounds funny before it even starts.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            oh yeah, and sarah palin v. lady gaga – that’s a good one.

          • Panika MCD

            also Einstein and Hawking.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN
    • Suttree
      • mancityRed6

        I couldn’t imagine spending more than 6 hours in that.
        less if anyone farted.

    • Panika MCD

      you need to come visit so we can plot world domination through the cunning placement of rabbit holes.

      • mancityRed6

        the best way to cut down office productivity is microwave popcorn.
        I can see rabbit holes slowing everything down.

        • Panika MCD

          but booze make us more creative?

          • mancityRed6

            at least until we sober up.

    • wait! what?

      FINALLY.

      Someone created a pushpin named after the Vulcan concept of time…

  • Daredevil
  • altleftjohn
  • It’s tragic how lucrative the ‘ladies against women’ gig, like the ‘blacks against African-Americans’ gig, can be.

    • Suttree

      Hey, it can get you a job running HUD!

  • Daredevil
  • mancityRed6

    if I still lived in a house, I’d want this
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MNLWHDW/ref=?tag=natdee-20

    • gallbladder

      I’d want two.

    • You should also have a big pile of shit nearby

      • mancityRed6

        dammit, now I really want it.

        • How was the giant pile of shit NOT your first thought?

          • mancityRed6

            too busy thinking of how awesome a 16 foot 250 pound dinosaur in the front yard would be.

          • You gotta go the extra mile

          • Permit-holder Ron

            I think if you want the extra mile you have to order an ultrasaurus.

          • mancityRed6

            after the thrill had worn off in a year or two, then I’d start thinking of ways to spice it up.

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      Cool and you get $40 off if you get an Amazon card…..

    • Permit-holder Ron

      ‘Designer resin’? Yes, agreed, but ‘designer resin’?

      • mancityRed6

        I guess, you can have the “regular” resin, but that paint won’t hold and your neighbors will never quit making fun of you.

    • therblig

      when i was kid, there was a little amusement park on rt 22 in springfield called “fairyland park”. after the 64 world’s fair, they bought one of the fiberglass baby brontos from the Sinclair Gas exhibit. when fairyland park was going out of business, our next door neighbor bought the baby bronto, which sat in their backyard for the next 15 years or so. it was about 6 feet long and 4 feet high, so it was actually pretty cool.

  • mancityRed6

    and at least 80-90% of the cat shirts on this page
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XVR6WBV/ref=?tag=natdee-20&th=1&psc=1

  • bookish

    SF dances in the street while alt-right cowers indoors.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/san-francisco-far-right-rally_us_59a08351e4b0821444c332bf

    The organizers of the aborted Freedom Rally ― who ended up giving a press
    conference via Facebook from inside a home with the blinds drawn ― sought to distance themselves from the event in Charlottesville, Virginia, two weeks prior that attracted neo-Nazis, members of the Ku Klux Klan and a bevy of white supremacists.

  • bookish

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/san-francisco-far-right-rally_us_59a08351e4b0821444c332bf

    The organizers of the aborted Freedom Rally ― who ended up giving a press
    conference via Facebook from inside a home with the blinds drawn ― sought to distance themselves from the event in Charlottesville, Virginia, two weeks prior that attracted neo-Nazis, members of the Ku Klux Klan and a bevy of white supremacists.

  • RMKH

    Ok conservative women:. You’re all gorgeous and every bit as deserving of respect as all those Nasty Women who actually go out and strive to make the world a better place. Now, fix me my martini and get back to cooking my dinner. Pot roast would be nice.

    (Snicker snicker, I said “pot”)

  • Raan

    “Why is macaroni a $2,000 question?” – Danny

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos
  • Panika MCD

    oh my dog: you guys should see Calloe and Jazzy going nuts right now.

    • RMKH

      Do we hafta?

      • Panika MCD

        I’m not terribly tech sophisticated…so it’s not likely that you will.

  • weighmaster

    OT, after all the talk here about tacos today, I’ve decided that Mr. Master must take me out for tacos tonight. Thank you all.

  • Daredevil

    Yet another reason why white people need to police our own communities for racism… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/556cd9966c804f3ccc4a43e953a594c8d2bd16dc1014e8fb0cfd089a7eec56a5.jpg

    • gallbladder

      Sue would have made a perfect bride for Hitler.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      speak for yourself you fucking…

      (wanders off into the desert, again, cursing…)

    • BloviateMe

      I don’t remember nominating her as a spokesperson for us whites.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        we must have missed hte monthly white folks meeting.

        /s

        • BloviateMe

          When they started carrying tiki torches, I quit attending.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i blame the substitution of crudetay for bologna on white bread with mayo.

        • ContextIsKey

          I was there. I’ll forward you the meeting minutes.

          • gallbladder

            Can’t we just hit the Heritage Foundation website?

      • jesterpunk

        Dont blame me I voted for Mr Rogers again.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Capitalized W. Surefire indicator of internet consumption.

      Sue? Go fuck yourself.

    • Michael R

      Who are these all of the people ?

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Deplorables. Well, not Julian.

    • SeeTrain65

      “Thank you for your opinion, Grandma Fascisti.”

    • jesterpunk

      Since Sheriff Joe is in the desert this is for you Sue.

      http://i.imgur.com/PkpG5ll.gif

    • Panika MCD

      he also called Trump #pendejo in an earlier tweet.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Hoo boy. Can’t wait for the Blightfarters to get on this one. “Castro” does not approve of Sheriff Joe? Trump must be doing something white! MAGA!

    • Tishalicious

      This isn’t satire? I just can’t tell anymore…

      • Daredevil

        If I were a gambling man, I’d say it’s totally real.

        • therblig

          yeah, she’s as disgusting a piece of shit as you would imagine. thankfully, time is not on her side.

    • georgiaburning

      Hispanics can’t be white? Sue needs to circulate more. Then again maybe not.

      • gallbladder

        I’ll be that Muslims can’t be either, according to her.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        True; I called a cuban guy who ran a restaurant “brown” once – we were really drunk. He stopped, put down the table we were carrying, dropped his pants, mooned me and asked, “does that look brown to you?”

        To your point, we get “white – non hispanic” on our disclosure forms here.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      Um, I’m melanin-impaired and I think it sucks.

    • We whites do NOT approve, Sue. Not even a little bit you fascist old dried up bitch.
      Hope that was not too subtle

    • Stulexington

      I’m half Scottish and half British, I’m so white my family tree hadn’t seen the light of day until my ancestors immigrated on the Hector. I also too am against this.

  • Lefty Wright

    So what you are saying is that conservative women are sometimes like conservative religious fundamentalists. Their idea is if you don’t let them in your club and allow them to call you names and dictate your beliefs and your agenda, you are anti women’s rights, or anti religious freedom. Pretty much the victim playing the right does on every issue.

  • weejee

    What with Harvey raining on Texas for forever, it is gonna be interesting how the Rs handle the National Flood Insurance Program which turns into a pumpkin in just a few weeks and is billions in debt. If you live in a flood plane, like so many red state folk do and need a mortgage, then you’ll need a wheelbarrow of Ameros to buy flood insurance if your beloved fiscally responsible conservatives kill that program. No flood insurance, then poof goes the mortgage.

    Flood insurance may be tRump’s Brownie moment.

    • jesterpunk

      Trump wants to cut funiding for flood insurance.

      • altleftjohn

        Well of course. If you sell people flood insurance they won’t take personal responsibility and help pray away the rain.

    • altleftjohn

      Maybe he’ll put Jared on it.

    • Three Finger Salute

      GOP says flood insurance is for communists. Prayer is all the flood insurance you need. Also, God brought the flood to deport all the Mexicans and clear out all those smelly poors, who weren’t praying hard enough to be rich and thought they could just steal from hardworking Americans by voting Democrat for more welfare. Whatever happens, it’s all part of God’s miraculous plan. “Believe me.”

    • Couple of weeks? Surely people will have forgotten about this one storm by then

  • Wolf Tracker

    Today was National Dog Day.

    Did you do anything special for your dogs?

  • Treg Brown
  • Daredevil
    • “That’s gonna be me when i grow up. They’re gonna worship me!”

    • RMKH

      “I hear and obey”

    • BloviateMe

      Heritage, not hate.

    • gallbladder

      “I don’t care what that Carl Rogers guy says: That’s me!”

    • SeeTrain65

      “Never saw him play, but he’s a true first-ballot Hall of Famer by his stats.”

    • Claire

      “Remember your godhood, little brother. Visit Our wrath upon any human who allows the bottom of the food dish to be visible, or who fails to provide a sufficient tribute of catnip mousies. For ours is Eternity, and our slaves must serve us well.”

    • No, Neo, you are not the one. But you’re a nice kid

    • Raan

      “Dad?!”

    • Not Flat – ROUND!

      Always let your human think that they are in charge.

    • Tiny kaiju

      I vow to honor your ancient teachings and therefore will destroy all the things. After I nap on the them, knock them off whatever surface they are resting on and leave a cloud of swirling fur behind me.

      • H0mer0

        My cat invites me outside to the back patio and wraps himself around one ankle and does that kicky-bitey reflex thing (I call it “rabbit footing”) then after freeing myself, he moves to the next ankle to do the same until I scream the F-word in pain. That’s what I get for giving him catmint instead of catnip, I guess.

    • Not Flat – ROUND!

      “Yes, Obi-Meow Kenobi”

    • Suttree

      “My statue is going to make yours look like shit!”

    • H0mer0

      [SOOOOON!}

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos
    • gallbladder

      Edmonton: my team.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i had a funny conversation with a guy in miami beach once. I actually met his (soon to be) ex wife first at a bar..,then met him. they were from michigan. I liked him better.

        Anyway, he called one night about ‘watching the playoffs”. I kept telling him they started at 7 and he kept telling me they started at 8.

        So he comes over with some beer…turns out, I was talking NBA, he was talking NHL. I have never played, watched, or had any interest in hockey.

        That night, we switched between games, turns out the hockey game was interesting (which should tell you how bad the NBA game was). Anyway, I rank hockey up there with fucking soccer.

        • Raan

          The difference is, when a guy gets hit in hockey, he doesn’t lie down and wail like a banshee.

          • Tiny kaiju

            And they wait until after the game to let the medical personnel evaluate their head injury or complete the death certificate.
            snark

        • Stulexington

          The season opener for the NHL has been delayed because they haven’t finished the playoffs from last season. -sarcasm … for now.

        • appropriate, since Hockey is Soccer on ice

          • Tiny kaiju

            Hockey has less diving, but better fights. Unless Luis Suarez is on the field or Joey Barton is in the pub across the street.

        • Suttree

          Heretic!

      • Suttree

        I’m happy that the Rangers got him for a while. BTW my mother was a neonatal/labor and delivery nurse and assisted in delivering Mario Lemieux’s baby.

  • jesterpunk

    Oh look another one of those coincidences. What happened to that free market thing republicans love?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/25/lewandowski-trump-coal-lobbying-242052

    An Ohio electric utility and one of the country’s top coal companies had some well-placed help when pressing President Donald Trump for emergency federal assistance for the coal industry — his former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

    The companies wanted Trump to prevent utilities from closing economically ailing coal-fired power plants, using authorities normally designed to protect the U.S. electricity supply during emergencies. And as they made their case, they got support from the former Trump aide, who has remained in the president’s orbit despite being fired from his campaign more than a year ago.

    Lewandowski denied in a message Friday that he is working for the companies, utility FirstEnergy and mining corporation Murray Energy. But his involvement in the issue alarmed some senior administration officials and others close to Trump, who saw his role as that of a lobbyist and believed he was being paid for the work.

    • jesterpunk

      Oh since Bob Murray is involved.

      http://i.imgur.com/5dXdPYl.gif

      • gallbladder

        Love the way Oliver leans in.

    • SeeTrain65

      Murray Energy? Not surprised.

      But FirstEnergy? I’m literally … not surprised either.

    • mackafritz

      “Corporate welfare for me, nothing for thee.”

  • Nasty Woman Persisted
    • gallbladder

      BRAVO!

  • tehbaddr

    I really have nothing here. When does this Trump and all his fascists at hand get their time. As in locked up, so we can turn the page?

    • Raan

      About an hour before we find out what Mueller found.

  • Daredevil
  • Nounverb911
  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • Nounverb911

    Belgian Grand Prix tomorrow morning….
    https://twitter.com/F1/status/901478950811033602

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Ugh, now you’ve reminded me of how one of the F1 greats is still too brain injured to appear in public.

      Although, go Lewis!

      Spa is best circuit. Or maybe Monaco. But probably Spa.

      • h4rr4r

        Spa was one of the best, but then they nerfed it.

        The Ring is the best, because it is the Ring.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Do you mean 60s/70s Spa or post 94 Spa? It was very sad to lose Bellof there.

          The Ring is good, but not for F1.

          • h4rr4r

            81-93.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Pre-’94 then, yeah. I also like the old Hockenheim before that fuck Tilke got his hands on it.

          • h4rr4r

            Yeah, after that F1 really tried to make Spa a parade route instead of a race.

      • h4rr4r

        Sad that the cars Schumacher drove were faster.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Hamilton’s lap was a record breaker.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        gah Anna Elizabeth liked Formula 1.

        • h4rr4r

          Does she not like it anymore?

          Did something happen?

          • She’s not been round lately :/
            I am guessing she still does but I do not know

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            I imagine so, but we miss her. Would really like to see her back.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            Anna bailed awhile back due to some trolls. she has come back before, so here’s hoping she will.

            But she was the only one who liked ole school space stuff (which I like). She was also into models, F1, and military history (which others like).

          • H0mer0

            were these trolls following her around to other websites or how does one get trolled off a forum of non commenters?

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            honestly, i’m not going to put my self in her shoes. Some people said some shitty shit and she bolted. Those are the facts.

  • I am highly doubting that 132 IQ.
    For someone who had a brain would know that yes, it means conservative women also!
    But these people, shesh

    • SeeTrain65

      It’s Fahrenheit IQ. Actual IQ is measured in Celcius. Just subtract 32 and divide by half.

      • Suttree

        5/9ths to be precise. (pedant)

    • H0mer0

      so what 132 IQ (mine is higher although maybe not by much.) Why is she languishing on Twitter trying to troll “oppressive” liberals? (although despite our oppression of them, they are “not victims.”) Why doesn’t she use her SMRT powers for good?

  • jesterpunk

    Well this is going to be helpful. Fuck you very much Trump administration.

    http://www.npr.org/2017/08/25/546109886/border-patrol-says-checkpoints-will-remain-open-during-hurricane-harvey

    As Hurricane Harvey bears down on the Gulf Coast, the U.S. Border Patrol says it plans to keep its immigration checkpoints in Texas open in spite of the storm. That’s prompting concern that immigrants living in the country illegally will ignore instructions to evacuate for fear that they’ll be caught and deported.

    “Border Patrol checkpoints will not be closed unless there is a danger to the safety of the traveling public and our agents,” according to a statement from Customs and Border Protection that was first reported Thursday by the Texas Tribune.

    We will not abandon our law enforcement duties.

    Border Patrol statement

    “The Border Patrol is a law enforcement agency and we will not abandon our law enforcement duties,” the statement said.

    Border Patrol checkpoints up to 100 miles north of the border are a fact of life for thousands of undocumented immigrants and their families in the Rio Grande Valley. These people can’t travel north for fear of being caught at the checkpoints. But they don’t want to return to Mexico, either.

    • gallbladder

      “The Border Patrol is a law enforcement agency and we will not abandon our law enforcement duties,” the statement said.

      That’s very cute. But who the fuck cares when you’ve got a “president” who is only too happy to pardon murderous brutalitarians like Joe Arpaio?

      • If any of those agents are hurt in this storm, there will be hell to pay.

        • jesterpunk

          “That’s too bad”

    • Panika MCD

      Harvey hasn’t really hit those areas like Ike did. they are not checking immigration status at the shelters.

      • jesterpunk

        Well that is a good thing at least. I saw on the news that Harvey is also causing tornados in Texas too, hope everyone is safe.

        • Panika MCD

          there have been reports of touchdowns and I’ve seen some photos of water spouts, but there hasn’t been any tornado damage reported yet. but it did swing back out into the water and now is coming back at 2 mph.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
  • Tiny kaiju

    Ryan Zinke’s Navy veteran daughter had this to say about Trump.
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/stfu-you-know-nothing-never-served-piece-of-sht-interior-secretarys-veteran-daughter-slays-trump/
    Is it wrong that I think it’s wonderful there is a #impeachthmotherfuckeralready?

  • Daredevil
    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      yes!

    • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • gallbladder

      Badge of honour.

    • BloviateMe

      This makes me love her more. She’s hot and awesome and hot. And loves fish tanks and sports and is hot. I’m so jelly of her husband. Even Mrs. Blov would leave me for her, and that’s OK.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        dude, right? How has she been so hot for like 25+ years?

        (and also, as I’m learning, she’s been smart and awesome this whole time. No, i never watched that witch show she did)

        • jesterpunk

          She was good on Charmed. (Yes I watch it when I am up early for some unknown reason.)

          • H0mer0

            guilty pleasure

          • SeeTrain65

            You had Alyssa, Holly Marie Combs and Rose McGowan (I’d never been much on Shannen Doherty, though I admire her persistence and courage in her fight against breast cancer) together. A triumvirate of raven-haired pulchritude.

        • Pisto75666

          The Good Person effect. For the most part (there are some exceptions) a person’s awfulness always comes from the inside out and shows up in their face.

    • Michael R
    • Parakeetist

      Yes and Amen.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Charles ain’t in charge of shit.

      Alyssa’s the boss.

      • Parakeetist

        Yay-men.

    • SeeTrain65

      “The Charles In Charge-Who’s The Boss? wars were some of the bloodiest in our nation’s rich history.”

      • I never watched a single episode of Charles in Charge.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          i watched it as a kid.

          • As a kid I watched happy days and thought he was a bad actor then.
            So no charles in charge. DID watch whose the boss but….Philly and Danza, so you know

          • Pisto75666

            Same. But in my defense it was because nothing else was on.

        • SeeTrain65

          SPOILER ALERT: Just think “Willie Aames” and “bag filled with scorpions.”

  • Tiny kaiju
  • Daredevil
  • Wookie Monster

    Conservative women are the Clayton Bigsbys of gender equality.

    • No they are worse. Because they DO know better and keep spouting their nonsense anyway

      • BloviateMe

        Clayton divorced his white wife for being a n***** lover after finding out he was black. That’s some serious dedication.

  • CO
  • Juan de Fuca

    A show of hands for who predicted the Nazis would be shown the door soon after their rally started in San Francisco today and that MC Hammer would be one of the people showing them the way out:

    https://twitter.com/MCHammer/status/901514015217668096

    Hammer Time!

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i interviewed him once after he went broke and became a preacher.

      (i feel like you all should know that…my tripod failed, so the camera kept listing ot the left).

      • theCryptofishist

        That’s like the perfect short story, or maybe a mini-memoir, like on This American Life.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          does it help i can’t remember a damn thing he said?
          ; )

          • BloviateMe

            You can’t quote this.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            pack it up – that’s a winner. The internet is now closed for the day.

          • theCryptofishist

            Okay, then go with story, cause then you can make it up with impunity.

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        He’s got a spokesperson gig, advertising adhesive picture hooks that don’t require nails. As in, “Stop hammertime.”

        Not making this up.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      “Proper”

    • theCryptofishist

      So, any word on what happened in Berkeley?

      • Juan de Fuca

        I believe the organizer cancelled it. Matter of fact, I thought both events were cancelled but it looks like the folks are on our side showed up just in case the folks on the wrong side of history changed their minds.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Yes, this.

          All the right-wing stuff died in a hissy fit of fail.

    • Raan

      I honestly didn’t realize that he was still alive.

    • Three Finger Salute

      The rules prevent me from asking Hammer to hurt ’em.

    • Me The People

      I’ve never been sure what’s meant to happen during hammer time. This is cool though.

      • The cool, man. You let the coolness flow. Let it flow into your vertebrae.

  • chascates

    BREAKING: Trump Asked Sessions If He Could Drop Arpaio Case
    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/breaking-trump-asked-sessions-drop-arpaio

    • Stulexington

      He’s still struggling with this whole Executive and Judiciary are separate branches thing.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        When you’re the prez
        You’re the prez all the way
        From your first pussy grab
        To your last tweeting bray.

        When you’re the prez,
        When the shit hits the fan
        You bob out of the way–
        Point to some other man.
        (Apologies to Lenny)

    • gallbladder

      Cue tweet about failing Washington Post in 3…2…

  • theCryptofishist

    Nothing says “smart” like bragging about your I.Q. Also, don’t dis my senator.

    • NotDarkYet

      Ok, my opening bid is 80 … anybody got 81? anyone??

  • Panika MCD

    Harvey update:

    Houston is starting to get pummeled.

    Palacios, TX is pretty much toast.

    my state senator sent photos of him talking to people at the shelter. in one he’s holding a toddler that looks just like DR about a year ago.

    my state rep is at another shelter feeding people.

    so now I’m feeling pretty worthless–though I can’t leave Jazzy of the Special Farts on her own yet.

    the Red Cross is trying to raise $10 million for the relief effort. you can donate $10 by texting REDCROSS to 90999.

    • :hugs: you are not worthless. Spreading the word is a good thing

      • Panika MCD

        well, they do both have family members to watch over their pups. I’ve just got me, my fur babbies and now the foster fur babby.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Just finished watching Canoa: A Shameful Memory about the lynching of 5 workers in a village who were accused of being communists. Recommended if you really want to analyze how ignorant people are easily led through irrational fear exacerbated by authoritarians.

  • Daredevil
    • jesterpunk

      Hey Trump? You know what liberals would really really hate? If you resigned right now and took your cabinet, Mike Pence and Paul Ryan with you.

      • Stulexington

        And McTurtle also too. We love that guy.

    • mancityRed6

      you know what really makes me mad?
      healthcare for all. that just steams my jeans.

      • Tishalicious

        Ah, you beat me to it!

        • mancityRed6

          children and morons, that’s pretty much the entirety of the public where reverse psychology actually works

          • Tishalicious

            So, we’re good then?

    • Raan

      God, just the thought of a Scandinavian style guaranteed income just​pisses me off so much!

      • Three Finger Salute

        Doing literally anything that Canada does, including no-confidence votes, official bilingualism, national healthcare and legalized marijuana and compassion centers for addicts. The mere thought of it just makes me sick to my stomach. I can’t stand Canada, and I never want to look at 20 pages of search results for pictures of their breathtakingly unattractive prime minister ever again!

    • I really really hate it when people stop breathing. It drives me batty! I get GRRRR mad when folks hold their breath until they pass out

    • Me The People

      Kurt Shitter is a disgusting little monster.

      • Can you imagine the screams of outrage if the left declared it their main goal to “Piss off conservatives?”

    • Three Finger Salute

      I swear, a humane choice-in-euthanasia program like Belgium has?

      That would just kill me.

    • akryan

      I kind of buy the theory that it was a big shout out to all the people in the Mueller investigation that, “don’t roll on me and I’ll pardon you,”. That’s pretty insidious, but might be very true.

  • AJ Milne

    (Blinks at ‘before you ask’…)

    … erm… plenty before?

    … as I wasn’t gonna?

    But I llike a good non sequitur as much as the next guy. And before you ask, I had nachos for dinner.

    In related, people who randomly tell you their IQ, it’s a bit of a tell. The fact they feel the need to impress upon you that a scored, standardized form, at least, was impressed tends to betray the fact they figure you, on the other hand, might just _not_ be for some reason…

    And especially in conversation, it’s really a bit… outside the point. A bit like someone who’s just totalled your car assuring you: ‘but I have this document from driver’s ed that says I’m a great driver’.

    • jesterpunk

      “People who boast about their I.Q. are losers.”

      ― Stephen Hawking

  • Jonny On Maui

    Today’s been one of those days. It’s one of those days we live for.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0626daeff8d10d5d5cd2d2c7de59bf8b2ee45a73628552f56b8bf57f7f31292.jpg

    8:30 this morning, Po’olenalena Beach, one of our favorites. No wind, smooth water, great visibility. We snorkelled the right hand side first, then walked to the left side and snorkelled that side.

    The turtle cleaning station had 2 turtles getting scrubbed. Pink tail trigger fish were everywhere…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/976ca37fef4d708e6c79f556d9564cfa3096b38168678c4528604cce4a68d0b8.jpg

    Racoon butterfly fish are always a treat!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/11cddb41a6b8bd27dfcdb133cc49e19a5ea36df8e6fabb25262e793b297932e5.jpg

    And I saw something new, baby yellow tang, cute little buggers. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/453c8e0657f5aec67c0a1a98693bcbb7a306f9ea8f3cb426023d6b0f61908c99.jpg

    Now it’s coma time…

    • BloviateMe

      You poor thing, you must be exhausted after such a hard day of play.

      *eye twitch*

    • DirtyHippyLiberal

      You must have an amazing camera. Thank you so much for sharing the pics. Beautiful!

    • wait! what?

      No trigger fish warning?

    • Tiny kaiju

      Pardon me, but why do your turtles need to be scrubbed? Or is a an amphibian spa treatment?

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      There are some pretty aggressive white spot Damselfish out there, if I remember.

      Can never go wrong with a cleaner wrasse station though.

      SO JEALOUS!

    • altleftjohn

      You live to torment us, don’t you?

      • puredog

        I’m with Sessions. Island in the middle of the Pacific. Hmph.

      • Jonny On Maui

        Your bitter tears make a great mixer…

    • CeeQ

      I want to go to there.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • gallbladder

      It bears repeating.

    • NotDarkYet

      It took a while, but Stern is making up for the Hitler diaries fiasco … slowly …

      • slowly. Step by step

        • NotDarkYet

          Well, when you were embroiled in the biggest journalism fiasco of the 20th century, baby steps is pretty much all one can ask for …

          • I was doing a stooges thing but I dun did it wrong.

          • NotDarkYet

            Dun goofed? LOL I did that earlier today. Posted my cell # in my syllabus, instead of my office number. And lo and behold, in those 10 minutes, a staggering 7 students were online to capture the number. Normally, it’s closer to 2…just my luck.

      • Raan

        Wait, what was that?

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        At first, I thought that had to be Der Spiegel. They hate Mein Drumpf.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          My first thought too.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      Bet you the Turd Reich actually love that pic…

  • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

    Commercial just came on the teevee for McDonald’s. They are now putting kale into some of their burgers. Kale.

    This is when you know the end of the world is nigh.

    • Parakeetist

      Le fuck wha?

    • SeeTrain65

      Don’t tell Orange Julius.

    • DainBramage

      Went to a wedding recently where the dinner had a ton of kale and NO CAKE!!! If I’m going to put a suit on, I want my cake.

      • Panika MCD

        I just go for the open bar.

        • AJ Milne

          … invited or no, really.

          • Panika MCD

            I’ve got boobs. they won’t ever suspect me.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Boobs are the universal invitation.

          • H0mer0

            NOW you tell me!

        • AJ Milne

          Got invited to a Baptist wedding once…

          Serious East coast (Canada) Baptists.

          So: No. Bar.

          Fortunately, the date of the girlfriend of my date happened to be an air force officer of some description, was able to get us into a nearly adjacent officer’s club between the ceremony and the reception. So were able to arrive prepared, at least.

        • Suttree

          Last wedding I went to, the friends of the bride and groom had an after party with the booze that was not drunk at the reception. My advise to all, is never play quarters with gin. Or with a woman from Jersey.

      • mancityRed6

        my second wedding had BBQ.
        the open bar was good liquor and a keg of PBR at the house after.

        • Suttree

          Do you have fun anniversary parties? I have never been to Kansas.

          • mancityRed6

            no. parties among our friends used to be playstation singstar (karaoke) inside, while the smokers went outside. that was one couple. another couple did games. mostly it was just people having conversations and drinking.

          • Suttree

            Hehe. It sounds like a party that Lizzie would enjoy. She is a gamer and she drug me to karaoke before. I swore I wasn’t going to sing. Until that nth drink kicked in. I like drinking and talking though. I am very good at the first part until I get good at the second part. /shy unless drunk

          • mancityRed6

            same. I sound absolutely horrible when I sing, there’s a distinct difference in the voice that I hear and what everyone else hears.
            but a few drinks and I will definitely step up in front of a somewhat friendly crowd.

          • Suttree

            I swore up and down that I wasn’t singing a damn thing. low and behold six drinks later……

      • wait! what?
        • The ducky tie makes this

        • Rags

          For formal sheetcaking

        • Suttree

          Watching the show is bad enough. These people should be sent to the moon colony with Newt.

    • jesterpunk

      I remember when kale was something they put on the buffet tables to hide the metal around the food.

    • Raan

      That’s exactly what I want, my garbage fast food to taste like soapy spinach.

      • Cousin Itt un Mondialiste

        Kale is like the Spam of veggies.

        • Kiri the Unicorn

          Doesn’t attract Vikings, though.

    • ltmcdies

      McDonalds. Own your greasy burgers and fries. Kale will not make it better

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        I shall respectfully disagree.

        Get your burgers from in-and-out and then the fries and shakes from McDonalds.

        Takes a bit of research to find ones close together, but so, so worth it.

    • Parakeetist

      They need to put back the goddamn taco bar at Wendy’s.

    • Suttree

      I sent this to my millennial baby cousin after I visited her a few years ago. It is very apt. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/01/kale-diaries

  • NorthernSaber

    Hey folks- Trent Franks is on Faux News right now, and he is BREATHTAKINGLY assholish. I’m sure others have observed this before, but fuck me standing is this guy a prick. Arizona- care to explain?

    • Arizona. Republican. Male.
      Need more explination or…will that suffice?

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        and named “Trent” … that about covers it.

      • NorthernSaber

        Yeah, guess it does.
        Sigh.
        Frown…

      • Claire

        I feel like “Huge as fuck population of retired rich white people” should be included in there.

    • SeeTrain65

      I could, once again, be very cruel and mention his appearance.

      Here goes …

      Nah, I won’t.

    • Suttree

      The Terrible Sand People Of Arizonastan are terrible and they scare easily. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/345781d61220c5ef369b3ac74d46a6ce489e1103f0f32f2b56512b44ebf73cb0.jpg .

  • Observation 2:
    Isn’t it kinda funny how they are all we don’t need a day because we never play victim!!!
    Even as they are playing victim to woman’s day?

    • altleftjohn

      I’m an old white male. Where’s my day? Waaaah!

      • Suttree

        Isn’t Tuesday 2 for 1 handjobs down at the massage parlour?

        • altleftjohn

          Yeah, but they don’t accept food stamps. Thanks, Obama.

          • Suttree

            They won’t take crab claws and t-bone steaks in exchange?

        • SeeTrain65

          Your free Obamacare BJ robot break down?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Me1HcsrLaw

          • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

            This needs way more upvotes.

      • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

        Me too! Waaaaaahh!

        • AJ Milne

          Fine. Fine.

          I’ll talk to my MP about sponsoring ‘Pale-Ass Geezer Day’. Happy?

          • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

            Thank God SOMEBODY cares!

    • Suse

      Just try to skip calling or sending them a card on Mothers Day and see what happens!

    • CovfefeOfTheThoughtlessMind

      Conservatives do not possess the irony gene.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      There’s nobody in this country more victimized than white, Christian, Conservatives.

  • GreenGoldSharpie
  • DainBramage
    • Parakeetist

      Ayyyyyymen.

    • wait! what?

      These “Justice League” promos are gettin’ pretty good…

      • DainBramage

        There aren’t any centaur superheroes, are there? That would be cool.

        • wait! what?

          Firenze,kinda, but that’s HP. On the other hand, any thing that gives Dolores Umbridge the business is a superhero…

        • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

          There would be if Varley’s Titan series ever made it to the screen…

    • Kiri the Unicorn
    • Suttree

      Just wash your hands AND don’t piss on the seat. Sorry ladies, but you really are going to have to start checking if the seat is down.
      *runs away using chair to deflect flying bottles*

      • *has heat seeking yondo arrow and eyes you*

      • Serai 1

        That’s the one thing that still keeps me away from unisex bathrooms, frankly. I’m not fond of the smell of piss.

        • Suttree

          I am a lazy guy. At home I almost always sit to piss. That way I always finish my New Yorkers week to week. It doesn’t matter if I am just peeing. I always sit for about half a page.

  • Three Finger Salute

    OK mom, remind me again why I should be enrolling in grad school (and then some)?

    Academia is in crisis, and it’s political

    Consider the story of Raechel Anne Jolie, a 32 year-old writer and former critical media and gender studies professor living in Massachusetts. After putting in long work days for little pay over several years earning her Ph.D, Jolie found scant opportunities for employment. The reasons why academia is a sinking ship are complex, but chief among them, especially at publicly funded colleges and universities, is politically motivated disinvestment in support for higher education.

    These right-wing attacks on interdisciplinary scholarship and teaching align with recent polling data from the Pew Research Center. According to Pew, there is a sharply growing gap between Republicans and Democrats in how they view higher education, with 58% of Republicans reporting that colleges and universities “have a negative effect on the way things are going in the country.” This is compared to 72% of Democrats who view higher education positively.

    The student loan crisis, meanwhile, is increasingly being compared to the subprime mortgage crisis. Christopher Newfield, discussing his 2008 book Unmaking the Public University: The Forty-Year Assault on the Middle Class, wrote that the Republican-fueled defunding and destabilization of the public university is part of a larger attack on public sector workers and an “attempt at a wholesale cultural demotion of the public sphere.” Newfield argues that “[w]e are witnessing an increasing—and increasingly desperate—effort to discredit a core belief of democratic culture, which is that the public sector plays a formative role in social development.”

    According to Newfield, conservative attacks on the public sector post World War II, and public education in particular, have constituted a concerted effort to halt the forward march of an egalitarian, racially integrated and college-educated middle class.

    For her part, Jolie adds, “[Students] deserve to have an education from people who are treated fairly and who can devote their time to preparing lessons, not applying for food stamps.”

    To what extent those educators of the future will be interdisciplinary scholars remains to be seen.

    So even PhDs are on welfare, and there’s no hope of fighting this battle because nobody’s got the kind of fuck-you money that the Kochs and Mercers do. No sense in blowing any more dough that you don’t have, just to get an advanced degree that leads directly to the burger industry or, at best, overloading your schedule teaching night school and summer classes for peanuts at the local commuter college.

    I liked college — well, the learning part anyway. The sticker shock? Not so much. And I was one of the lucky ones who saved a lot by going to CC. Financial aid ends once you have your bachelor’s, though. After that, it’s Sallie Mae, credit cards or bust. Or AOT,K.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      The idea that learning is merely for getting a job is abhorrent.

      • Me The People

        Everything is merely for getting a job these days – your personality and soul included.

        • There’s some signs of hope. More and more businesses are trying to land liberal arts types because they can a: write and b: problem solve and c: pick up other skills rather quickly owing to having a well all around background.

          • Three Finger Salute

            It’d be nice if we had “ministries of heritage,” a legitimate national broadcaster, and funded arts programs like other countries do. Apparently a lot of people were woefully ignorant enough of History to repeat it and vote in a German fascist again. Instead, everything is privatized, and the piss-poor equivalent of “CBC Heritage Moments” in America are those stupid Moar You Know things on NBC. Sooner or later you’ll get Fox commemorating the Bowling Green Massacre. We went from the Crying Indian to the nightly news being sponsored by the petroleum industry???

          • AJ Milne

            Seems it’s likely only to become increasingly practical, too. So many businesses where there’s so much churn, so much disruption. You don’t need staff who already know stuff, so much as you need staff can _learn_ stuff, and the quicker and more flexibly, the better.

          • This right here. I’ve had many a job in my tenure on this here earth. Everyone that was not directly connected to my chosen profession was way more interested in my liberal arts work than anything else.

      • Three Finger Salute

        At five-to-six figures a pop, if you don’t have one lined up (one that isn’t “fry cook” or “grocery bagger”), you’re basically just shooting yourself in the foot.

        Canada’s is like $5-7K, so I hear. But that’s because they’re a communist dictatorship run by a junior Castro who hugs Chinese hoax pandas.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          My postgrad cost a grand total of $5K. At Oxford. In a medical field.

          America is doing it wrong.

          Learning is beautiful! It *should* be subsidized. By the damn government. A more educated populace is an objectively better populace.

          One of the few things that really grinds mah gears about the good ol’ US of A.

          • A more educated populace is an objectively better populace.

            An educated populace is also one less likely to be easily controlled, Fukui. Methinks that there is the sticking point

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Sadly, some smart and vicious people have realized that. And then Betsy “I ARE HAVE BRAIN” DeVos becomes SecEd.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            That still chafes my ass that a moron who didn’t even GO to a public school, or send her children to one, is in charge of public schools.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ayup – i’m going to community college to be a paralegal. I have the grades and intelligence to go to a middling law school. But i can’t afford it.

            Which job do you think i’m going ot earn more at? And thereby pay income taxes on and pump into the economy in terms of new cars and suits for court dates?

            Between that and healthcare, I’m getting really close to fucking fleeing.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Nah, we need ya.

            [bizarro-world Republican Fukui]
            No scholarship? Can’t afford it? Bootstraps, young man. That will solve everything.
            [/bizarro-world]

            Completely agree with you.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            it’s odd i’ll be 20K in debt for a goddamn associates degree.

          • Richard Girlswin

            I will never stop banging the ‘Education could have prevented much of this’ drum. I would really like to see a candidate run on education finance and reform.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            So … Hillary and Bernie then?

            I’m so fucking pissed off about all that. Instead we get Shitgibbon.

          • Richard Girlswin

            Fair enough. Honestly as a not-American, by the time I would normally take an interest in their policies one was Trump so I didn’t look much further into it than that.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time