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We can’t say definitively whether Colin Kaepernick is the Kristi Yamaguchi of quarterbacking, in which case he should definitely have a job by now, regardless of what people think of his national anthem protests, which he did in response to systemic racism in America. We are simply not schooled enough in the dark arts of NFL FOOOBAWWWWWWWW! to expertly decide that on our own. Opinions on the subject run the gamut. Buffalo Bills running back LeSean McCoy says Kaepernick’s protests “may have something to do with but I think it also has a lot to do with his play.” Matt Barrow, who writes about the San Francisco 49ers for the Sacramento Bee, says depending on how you look at it, Kaepernick was either great last season (a 16:4 touchdown to interception ratio would suggest that!), or it was totally his fault the 49ers sucked so hard last year. Regardless, Barrow says, Kaepernick ended much stronger than he started.

Barrow also says that, despite what you might have heard, the “media circus” surrounding Kaepernick’s protests really wasn’t all it was made out to be, either on the ground or in the locker room. Most of that, it would seem, is racist caterwauling on Fox News and in internet comments sections.

Back in March, the dorknerds at FiveThirtyEight ran the numbers and compared Kaepernick to other quarterbacks and determined that “Yes, It’s Strange That Colin Kaepernick Doesn’t Have A Deal Yet.” The blog Brick Wall Blitz dives deep into Kaepernick’s play and determines that yes, Kaepernick is certainly good enough to start.

Based on that, it seems fucked up that NOBODY has shown any interest, don’t you think? If he’s good enough that people are actually arguing over how good he is, and if it’s true that, as Doktor Zoom points out in the Wonket Secret Chatcave, “mediocre apolitical QBs get jobs all the time,” then it would seem that, all things being equal, dude should have a job right now.

Our thesis here is that it’s pretty safe to assume Kaepernick’s insistence on hurting sad white people’s feelings by pointing out that racism is a thing has a LI’L BIT to do with why he doesn’t, despite what NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says. As sports columnist Thomas Lott asks, “Are you sure it’s not due to his activism which he isn’t backing down from?” (That activism is still going on, by the way, as other players continue Kaepernick’s protests in his absence.)

Media Matters put together a video comparing how Fox News treats Kaepernick, versus how Fox News treated the Charlottesville Nazis. It’s jarring, watching those assholes talk about how both sides do it and how we should really try to understand the Nazis’ feelings, and then pivoting to reporting on Kaepernick as if he’s a domestic terrorist.

We wrote about this way back in 2016, because Fox News has been acting like a racist motherfucker toward Kaepernick since those olden days. “Fox & Friends” paste-eating idiot Brian Kilmeade wanted to know why Kaepernick, who was raised by white parents, wasn’t acting more like Kilmeade’s idea of a #GoodBlackGuy. Tucker Carlson, who is a warrior for the common white supremacist man, wanted to know why Kaepernick was complaining about racism, when he has all that football player money. Meanwhile, Sean Hannity was yelling incoherent lie words about how Kaepernick is a secret Mooslim.

Also too, back then, Fox News watcher Donald Trump, who was not yet president of America, said Kaepernick should probably go find another country to live in. Ayup.

Even when actual NFL players debunk Fox News’s bullshit TO ITS FACE, Fox persists in spreading its narrative about how Colin Kaepernick is some sort of grave threat to white America. For whatever (blindly racist) reason, he just makes Fox News and its white people viewers maaaaaaaaaad.

This week, tons of people have been gathering outside the NFL headquarters to protest how shittily Kaepernick has been treated, and calling for boycotts:

“How in the world can we call ourselves the land of the free, the home of the brave, and you get vilified and criminalized just for speaking your mind?” the Rev. Jamal Bryant said. “The NFL has proven with their treatment of Colin Kaepernick that they do not mind if black players get a concussion. They just got a problem if black players get a conscience.”

The NAACP has also sent a letter to Roger Goodell, demanding a meeting and expressing its firm belief that Kaepernick is being shut out specifically because he’s willing to speak up and cause trouble over ISSUES THAT MATTER.

Well damn. That pretty much says it all, we think.

On top of how Colin Kaepernick is a decent quarterback who it sure seems is being punished for taking a stand (or a knee, as it were), he’s an all-around decent guy. Last year, he pledged a million bucks “to organizations working in oppressed communities,” and as of now he’s made good on $800,000 of that. He’s literally giving away all that money, unlike a common Donald Trump, who would make a pledge like that, stick it in his own foundation, then figure out a way to use the cash to buy paintings of himself.

The point is that the way Colin Kaepernick is being treated is fucked up and racist, dude should have a job, and this is worth caring about even if you are not a big FOOOOOBAWWWWWW! fan, which we are not.

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  • Michael Smith

    First of all, I can’t look at a letter like the NAACP’s anymore without checking to see if the first letter of each paragraphs forms a snarky word.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    I would protest Kaepernick’s treatment by resolving to watch even less football than last year, but I just don’t think that’s possible.

    • It took me a minute to realize that the 49 reference in the article wasn’t a stat, but was a team name

      • Latverian Diplomat

        It’s even geographically valid (looking at you, Utah Jazz and LA Lakers).

        • Antonin Dvorak

          Jazz started in New Orleans, and the Lakers in Minneapolis. Someone once suggested the Jazz and the Memphis Grizzlies swap names.

          • arglebargle

            They should be called the New Orleans Show Your Tits and the Los Angeles Silicone Knockers

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Yes, it’s silly that teams keep the names that only worked in the previous cities. I don’t know why that has taken so long to figure out.

            The Brooklyn Dodgers were a reference to the pedestrian risk of being run over by a streetcar, as another example.

          • Rags

            And the SF Giants previously played in Brobdingnag.

        • Three Finger Salute

          N’awlins Pelicans. Dumbest name for a pro sports team ever.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Welp, Charleston has had another shooting, again, quite close to my mom’s place. It’s nice that people are just allowed to roam around America armed to the teeth, and kill people that they have a disagreement with. Of course if you’re a white Nazi like Dylann Roof, who shot 9 black church people, you didn’t even have a disagreement with them, you just don’t like their skin color. Man, America is sure a great country!

    • Roadstergal

      Trump hasn’t Tweeted and my news feed isn’t blowing up. So the shooter is white?

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Nobody knows yet, because he (she? ha ha) is critically injured, but they haven’t released his identity. He’s a disgruntled restaurant worker who went to a popular restaurant (while diners were inside!) and killed someone (identity also not released) who worked there. My guess is that Fox will report on it, and Trump will comment only if shooter is black, and murder victim is white, otherwise, they’ll say nothing.

        I’m hoping I don’t know any of the people, since I know a couple of chefs.

        • cmd resistor

          Actually earlier in the day when trying to find out what was going on I came across an article in the local Charleston paper that had witnesses in the restaurant who first saw several waitresses and employees march out of the kitchen and then a black guy came out with a gun and said something like he was in charge now. Seems like I read a couple of places he was black. So, we have all that to look forward to.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            On the local news they didn’t mention race. I was hoping he wasn’t black.

          • cmd resistor
          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Ayup, that’s the local paper, and all the witnesses say he was an older black man, so I guess he was. I’m wondering what the race of the person he shot was, since that’s kind of a soul food place.

          • cmd resistor

            Funny, the later version of the story in the same paper took out all racial descriptions of the guy. The person shot was apparently a chef there.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I read the local paper this AM, and there was no mention of the victim’s race, but I think he may have been white. I don’t think they mentioned the shooter’s race this AM either, but I wouldn’t swear to it. I’m guessing Charleston in general, and the local paper, made a point of not making it about race. The guy was apparently mentally ill, and I’m relieved he didn’t kill more than one person.

          • cmd resistor

            I figure we’ll know when they post photos of them. It did seem mental illness was an issue.

  • I don’t know anything about football (only sportsball i know less about is cricket) but am i shocked that the NFL owners are a bunch of racist assholes? No, i am not

    • Lance Thrustwell

      The thing about football, see, is you gotta look over your shoulder for the baseman before you slap the puck through the basket.

      • armed_bears

        from outside the 3-point line.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      The thing about American football is, most of the time, the ball is in someone’s hands.

      • gedjcj

        It’s actually against the rules to touch the ball with your feet most of the time. Go figure.

  • Mavenmaven

    Your Racist Uncle will always say “those thugs like Kaepernik, BLM, and antifa”

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Versus the thugs with flags, and sticks, and semi-auto rifles slung on their shoulders?

      • Nigel R. Toppinglift, III

        In Starbucks…because things can get heavy, there…

    • Bill D. Burger

      While wearing his confederate flag emblazoned t-shirt and cap.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        We Libs are just too fucking nice and non-confrontational… “Talking out” our rageyness… We are way outgunned in these sorts of interactions.

        • Edith Prickly

          Sister of Prickly likes to respond with: “I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that” and changes the subject.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            I haven’t heard “pretend” since I was about 7 years old….

  • Scooby

    It seems to me that most people that I know that are football fans are also RWNJs

    • Latverian Diplomat

      There are plenty of football fans that aren’t, but honestly, I have no idea why.

      • Scooby

        Do you think,the majority are?

        • Latverian Diplomat

          I don’t know, the audience skews male, but plenty of nonwhites, plenty of college grads, etc. are football fans.

          The thing that always gets me are the RWNJs who have no connection whatsoever to the local college team but are avid fans of the football team there.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Tribalism.

      • DrBigHead

        Probably for the same reason I am a die-hard baseball fan. Part of my personal heritage. Was raised in a family that loved baseball for generations. My favorite great aunt could still discuss the quality of the current Twins roster when she was 100 years old. The game, especially when broadcast on the radio, has an almost Proustian effect on me Sends me back to my childhood.

        • Latverian Diplomat

          I used to watch some football and baseball just because I have friends and family who are into those things and it gave us something to talk about, but I just didn’t enjoy it enough to justify to the time spent.

          That’s me. Not saying others can’t enjoy it.

          • DrBigHead

            Understood

    • calliecallie

      As a lefty and a football follower, I disagree. My son, hubby, brother, & 3 nephews also too. (The far outnumber my brother-in-law and nephew on the other side who are both football fans and RWNJs.)

      • Scooby

        Maybe there is some correlation with which team they support?

        • calliecallie

          Lions, Giants and Pack, oh my!
          Some Bills and Steelers also too. It’s all about where you live.
          If you can’t root for the team you love, root for the one you’re with. Or something like that.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Lefty sportsball fan here, too. Me and all my lefty PNW friends and relatives love us some Seahawks.

        And pretty much all of us wish Pete Carrol had the ‘nads to hire Koepernick and send that drunken stoner party boy backup QB Boykin packing.

  • elviouslyqueer

    I for one am SHOCKED that the NFL owners, who routinely give starting positions to rapists, sexual abusers, convicted drug offenders, and gun nuts on its teams, could possibly be racist as well.

    • Oooo, you forgot animal abusers!

      • elviouslyqueer

        Shame on me for forgetting that. And fuck Michael Vick forever.

        • Persistent Demme

          Never forgive, never forget.
          Special place in hell for him.

          • Sakonyachen

            You know, I was suspicious of the charges laid on him, until he went out of his way to condemn Colin Kaepernick. Pretty obvious if you are disgusted by someone opposing the abuse of your own people, you wouldn’t care much for the humane treatment of animals.

          • Persistent Demme

            I did not know this.
            Colin is on the right side of history.
            (I just wish he had voted.)

      • armed_bears

        Sorry… you got there first. But in a lot of ways they are the worst.

      • Sakonyachen

        One in particular had much to say about Kap. Because he has the moral high ground apparently.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “I know right? Go, Redskins!”
      — Dan Snyder

      • Sophie McMillan

        In Oregon this past weekend for Solarfest – native American history everywhere and some asshole is proudly strutting around, chest stuck out, wearing a Redskin’s jersey.Totally ignoring all the incredulous looks as he stands next to a tribal group about to perform. I so wanted to punch him but I am a touch on the small side and i dont know if my daughter was prepared to protect me.

      • Sakonyachen

        I would love to have several billion dollars to buy that team and change their name to “The Cracker Assed Crackers!”

    • OutOfOrbit

      that is just a abhorition

    • armed_bears

      Animal abusers.

    • blarg

      Don’t forget child abusers! (Adrian Peterson, I’m looking at you!)

  • Treehopper1104

    You can suck at football and still get a contract, as long as you don’t make white people uncomfortable. Just look at Tim Tebow.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Tim Tebow makes me uncomfortable. IN MY PANTS.

      • Edith Prickly

        YOU’RE WEARING PANTS??

    • Roadstergal

      Even if a white boy makes white folk uncomfortable, he’s not long for the NFL. (Kluwe.)

      • armed_bears

        I believe this is the NFL’s “Manziel Protocol.”

        • Beanz&Berryz

          I think Manziel had sports ball issues

          • armed_bears

            Maybe, but primarily crazy issues.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            A good tavern really does deserve to be appreciated….

          • arglebargle

            I think Manziel had sports ball white powder issues

          • Michael Smith

            What’s a little blow before game time? Worked for Marino!

            Damn it, that’s a bad joke. That’s why the Rooneys didn’t draft him.

      • everstar

        Chris Kluwe will always be signed to the team of my heart. Or something.

    • calliecallie

      When is Tim Tebow going to be on Dancing with the Stars?

      • Gayer Than Thou

        As this would entail tight pants, I am completely in favor of this suggestion.

    • Edith Prickly

      Yeah, and he was kneeling all the time.

    • Michael Smith

      Its a great comparison. Now I liked Tebow, I thought he was an inspirational leader at Florida. He was not a practical player to have in the NFL, however. BUT teams signed him, despite this, because certain fans like him. These fans liked him because he was so openly Christian. These fans claimed he wasn’t getting the respect he was due because he was openly Christian. Which was absolute bullshit, it was absolutely the opposition situation, actually.

      The fact that ESPN didn’t report on “the discrimination” against Tebow (because it didn’t exist), but always is soooo sympathetic to Kaepernick, is what causes many of them to scream and yell that ESPN is part of the liberal media. Yes, the sports news station is part of the liberal media too.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        I loved watching Tebow play. Always quite a show.

        But I was really glad he wan’t playing for my team.

  • Alex Grey

    The real question is, did Obama use his time machine to bring back Osama bin Laden? Why is no one asking this!?!?!?!?

  • Bill D. Burger

    The same fucking mindset that excuses Nazis and the KKK marching in the streets of America and waving goddamned Confederate flags and flags festooned with swastikas, because as The Dear Leader says, some “….are very fine people.”, is outraged, outraged I say, at Kaepernick failing to stand for a song. Fucking unbelievable….uhhh, no…actually very typical.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Oh, and the raggedy assed U.S. flags hanging on their trucks and houses… Don’t get me started….

  • FukuiSanYesOta

    NFL. Guess what the “n” stands for on free republic.

    • OutOfOrbit

      Nascar? no … no … uh …

    • arglebargle

      Hitler? One of these time the answer just has to be Hitler.

    • yyyaz

      Nukular?

    • Three Finger Salute

      “People who annoy you” (source: South Park)

  • Nothing talks like money. If enough people boycotted the NFL and its various products, they’d be more inclined to listen to issues about racism, domestic violence, and player safety.

    • BadKitty904

      I’ve informally boycotted it my entire life, i.e., I have zero interest in football. My family are all baseball fanatics and my hubby is a crazed soccer buff – you know, sports for REAL men…

  • BadKitty904

    Didn’t the NFL owners contribute heavily to Trump’s campaign?

    • Wild Cat

      Most.
      Football Giants are Democratic.
      Stinky Jets are owned by Woody Johnson—’nuff said.

      • Nounverb911

        That’s Ambassador to the Court of St James Woody Johnson….

        • Wild Cat

          He’s so diplomatic he was feuding with the Maras over the Timex Center practice field the week his daughter died at a tragically young age.
          The rich are fucking sick.

      • arglebargle

        Is that a Woody Johnson in your pants or… ah nevermind.

    • OrG

      Don’t know about all of them, but I bet the cheatriots did.

    • Nounverb911
      • Wild Cat

        Kapo!

    • arglebargle

      Robert Kraft and the NE “Patriots” had a special Super Bowl ring made for Dampnut. It goes well with his Purple Heart.

      • Nounverb911

        Does donnie know he’s not allowed to keep gifts over $50 yet?

        • arglebargle

          HA! (and jinx and your post is better)

        • BadKitty904

          That only applies to law-abiding Americans.

          • Nounverb911

            I forgot trump was born in Jamaica.

          • BadKitty904

            And is employed by Moscow.

      • BadKitty904

        Donnie is “special,” alright.

        • Nounverb911

          Extra extra small?

          • BadKitty904

            “World’s Tiniest Fake Super Bowl Ring”…

      • theblackdog

        Yup, and don’t forget Kraft let Putin “steal” one of his other Patriots SB rings

    • Michael Smith

      Steelers owner Dan Rooney was a big Obama supporter, and was appointed ambassador to Ireland at one point. Boy did that piss off our drunken redneck fans (like 87% of our fanbase).

      • BadKitty904

        Good.

  • Dok Zoom, “mediocre apolitical QBs get jobs all the time,”

    That’s the quote I’ve been looking for all day.

  • OrG

    I’d boycott the NFL but I can’t really care a whole lot less.
    Unless the Bears start winning.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Principle goes only so far…

    • Suttree

      As a former Bears/Bengals/Browns/Saints fan, I concur.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Meanwhilst, in Derptardistan…

    “Couple sees the Jeebus in babby’s ultrasound”

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029508669

  • arglebargle

    You don’t need to go to dead Breitbart to read racist comments. Just go to http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/ and read the comments on any article concerning Kaepernick. I’ve been a Steeler fan since the late 60’s, but I have less interest in the sport every year. I’m at the point I couldn’t give a white rats ass if it disappeared.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Then there’s the brain injury evidence even in people who stopped playing after high school…

  • Drinkalong

    I posted something over on the sportsbaw site ESPN about this blatant racist lockout of Kaep. General response was in agreement. Especially after the Miami Dolphins signed Jay Fuckler…who had actually retired, couldn’t lead a pack of zombies(is that the right collective term) and was a stupid ass to begin with. The sportsbaw teams are all owned by old white guys. I hope that, someday, a POC owned team stocks up on the best players of color.

  • weejee

    I think Carlson, Hannity, and Kilmeade would make excellent NFL tackling dummies, because they have so nailed the dummy part.

  • Portia McGonagal

    Long past time for all black players (and allies) sit down. Won’t happen but it’s the only thing that would scare the shit out of the NFL.

  • whitroth
    • Michael Smith

      Spike Lee pointed that out and Kilmeade about lost his shit.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Really? I don’t have speakers at work. but that would be lovely.

    • yyyaz

      Inasumuch as this took place exactly 49 years ago, would that make them the real 49’ers?

    • georgiaburning

      Here’s the statue at San Jose State
      https://charris.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/statue.jpg

  • Ezio
    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      That sums up the entire GOP’s ruling philosophy – bitch about Democrats doing something that they’re not actually doing, and then turn around and bitch like a little girl, while THEY’RE doing the thing they were bitching about.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Not just bitching and moaning about Democrats–but random individuals doing their own private thing. Last I checked, those sportsball players are private citizens and are not elected to represent anybody other than their filthy-rich sportsball franchise team owners.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Remember when the Tea Party was calling for armed revolt (over some faux outrage or another) and Fox called them patriots? Now when anti fascists are protesting (and NOT calling for overthrowing the president) they’re suddenly violent thugs. Funny how that works. Hypocrisy is one of my least favorite traits in another human being.

    • yyyaz

      Someone isn’t paying attention. Not only can they do that, they are doing it loudly and proudly.

  • armed_bears

    BTW… Football column on Wonkette is fun timez!

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    How bad is it?

    The Los Angeles Rams signed Dan Orlovsky, who at best was a journeyman player and who is more famous for running out the back of his own end zone while dropping back to pass, over Kaepernick. Orlovsky hasn’t played a meaningful moment of football in 2 years.

    The Miami Dolphins, who just lost their starting quarterback for the season, signed anti-vaxxer, all around moron, and retired quarterback Jay Cutler over Kaepernick because ownership claimed Kaep would alienate anti-Castro Cubans in the fanbase.

    The Baltimore Ravens coach and general manager were dying to hand him a contract. The owner put it to a fan vote, then overruled them and said no. The Ravens’ most famous player is one who copped a plea deal on a double homicide charge and is now considered by the league to be a paragon of morality. Their second most-famous player cold-cocked his wife on camera, then pouted because the NFL slapped his hand for it.

    • armed_bears

      Jay Cutler has a job. Kaep’s point is made.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        I didn’t point out that the 49ers are going with Blaine Gabbert and Matt Barkley, who would need to overachieve just to reach “competent”. But they’re bland, inoffensive white dudes so *shrug*.

        • mailman27

          Blaine Gabbert, FFS. Stumblebum extraordinaire.

        • murphstahoe

          The Niners are playing for draft picks so Kaep would be a liability

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Jay Cutler? The Sean Spicer press briefing of quarterbacks? WTeverlovingF????

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    I’d take him over the criminal who is starting for my team, that’s for sure…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0a3a03bc2b7849bc8903a5b3ba6e03aedce735ca9565221fc3168b1a92d29837.jpg

    • BadKitty904

      I’d take him over the criminal who is sitting in the Oval Office.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Would it be against the rules for me say where I’d like to see Kilmeade take a knee for his team?

  • Ezio
    • OrG

      Says it all.

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    • SadDemInTex

      It was like when that bigot Tomi Lahren was on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. He kept asking her what black people should do…and basically she wouldn’t answer but her real answer is the usual white supremacy shit. She wants them all to just shut up and be oppressed.

  • Antonin Dvorak

    Meanwhile in Jacksonville, they have a QB who has been sacked so many times in the last two seasons, that he is literally forgetting how to quaterback.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      And now he’s being benched for the guy he replaced.

  • Nounverb911
    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      I guess Buffalo fans will be making t-shirts with his face in a rifle scope just like they did with Kaepernick.

      • murphstahoe

        They can make T-shirts commemorating the last time they made the playoffs except nobody alive can remember it.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        KKKlassy.

  • Michael Smith

    Kaepernick absolutely should have a job. He should at least be a backup, and he should be contending for a starting position. He led the 49ers to a Superbowl four years ago, and was fine last year. To argue that he’s jobless right now based purely on merit is absolutely absurd.

    LeSean McCoy told a reporter today that he thinks teams aren’t signing Kaepernick because of the media circus that would follow him. I think he’s right. That and all the redneck ass fans would absolutely lose their shit. Here in Pittsburgh, we could really use a backup quarterback and buying Kaepernick low because of all this crap would be an incredible deal. But when an article on the Pittsburgh Post Gazette argued that very point, the comments section basically called for the reporter to burned at the stake for even suggesting such sacrilege.

    That’s right. Our starting quarterback has been accused of rape/sexual assault not once but twice. Never convicted, of course, but it seems pretty darn likely that he actually did it. But we ignore that. We say “oh he’s changed, he’s married now, he’s turned his life around.” We are super forgiving, obviously. Just really compassionate bunch, Steelers fans, never quick to judgement always giving people the benefit of the doubt.

    Then a few years ago, we signed Mike Vick. Because, like now, we didn’t have a good backup (come back Charlie Batch!) and people avoided Vick because of his troubled past, in which he was caught operating an underground dog-fighting ring, in which dogs were forced to kill each other and were tortured for the entertainment and gambling pleasures of spectators. Steelers fans were very divided. First, the prospect to have a backup that was as good as Vick used to be (and he used to be very good) thrilled plenty. “He’s served his time,” they said. Indeed he went to jail for like 18 months or something. “More than Ben ever did,” they said, implicitly admitting that Ben probably did something jail-worthy. But others were absolutely aghast.

    And there was an undercurrent of racism in the anti-Vick sentiment. The story was that our coach (Mike Tomlin, himself black) is friends with Tony Dungy, and that Tony Dungy is kind of a godfather of black coaches in the league right now. Dungy, incidentally, played for the Steelers in the 70’s and began his coaching career as an assistant here, so Steelers fans aren’t comfortable disliking him…. but sometimes he’s too openly black for their liking. Anyway, Dungy was advocate for Vick after he was released from jail, trying to convince people that they should sign him, that he’s changed, etc. According to some Steelers fans, he told Tomlin something to the effect of “we black coaches need to look out for black players in this system.” So that’s why Tomlin signed him, they said.

    So it was complicated – some people opposed him because he abused animals, others because they thought Tomlin signed him just for being black. The latter point was emphasized when, after Ben was injured, Tomlin started Vick over the third-string (white) quarterback, Landry Jones. You should have heard the bitching. “He’s starting the black player of course. He’s probably out looking for a black kicker as we speak. Landry Jones was great in college, Vick is washed up.”

    Then Vick got hurt, and Landry came in and was absolutely terrible. When Vick came back on the field everyone cheered. He was okay, but definitely far removed from the player he once was. He rarely played after Ben came back, and I think he retired at the end of the year.

    So Steelers fans are okay with Ben, even though they admit to themselves he mostly likely sexually assaulted at least two women. Steelers fans were okay with Vick after a while, even though he abused dogs. Their main objection to him, actually, was that Tomlin made him an “affirmative action” hire.

    So why the opposition to Caepernick? He never raped anyone or tortured any dogs. He’s certainly got more talent than Vick at the end of his career.

    It has nothing to do with his talent. It has everything to do with the fact that he started all of this kneeling during the national anthem. Despite all the above, we like to see ourselves as a “first class” organization, that wouldn’t tolerate that kind of black nationalist, anti-American bullshit. So just to keep track: you can rape, yes. You can torture animals, yes. But don’t you fucking dare decide to do something different during the national anthem to draw attention to police violence against black people, you ingrate.

    • yyyaz

      Ramen.

    • georgiaburning

      Nobody wants a back-up QB with any drama. Or any talent usually, as coaches don’t want a “who should start?” controversy if they can possibly avoid it.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I absolutely hated Michael Vick and never wanted him to play football again. I also had no idea he was black, because all of the coverage I got was from the radio. I never heard him speak and never saw a picture until he was actually in court. It didn’t change how I felt about him at all; he’s still a prick.

    • murphstahoe

      Wait until Big Ben goes down and a Super Bowl contender with the best RB and WR in the league is in trouble of missing the playoffs. I don’t think those steeler fans would mind an injection of Kaep at that point.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        That’s exactly what it’s going to take. A playoff contender losing its QB mid-season.

        • murphstahoe

          Which is going to happen with 100% certainty. I can’t figure out how Cutler possibly makes it through the season. Big Ben is held together with bubblegum and bailing wire. Tom Brady has an awesome training regimen and looks great but he’s closing in on 40, Payton Manning was meticulous too and he fell off the cliff very fast. Cam Newton takes a ton of hits. Andrew Luck might not play at all this year – are they going to go with Scott Tolzein? Derek Carr broke his leg last year, what if he isn’t right – Connor Cook was awful. The Texans have an awesome team except who knows what their QB situation could be.

          Kaep is too expensive to be a backup QB for a contender. There is no fit for him – yet. Once a contender loses their starter, they’ll sign him.

          A 2nd/3rd tier team – why would they bother with Kaep? That’s a lot of money to lose games and deal with the headache rather than try to develop someone new.

          He’s on a team by week 8. Guaranteed. If you offered me 5-1 that he starts a playoff game, I’d bet it.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Don’t forget Adrian Peterson who beat his kid with a switch so severely that the little boy ended up with permanent scars on his genital area. I don’t care what color he is. Anyone who leaves his kid black and blue, especially in a bodily region that can’t be spoken of in polite company, is lower than shit as far as I’m concerned.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        The boy was like age 4? AP bragged about switching him hard (“I caught his ballsack), didn’t get him any medical attention AND put him on a flight back to his mother unattended with his wounds. Don’t google the pictures, public because of criminal charges and law suit.

      • Michael Smith

        It’s unfortunately easy to forget everything that these players have done to damage others but get away with.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      My daughter was a freshman at Georgia College when that poor girl was raped in 2010. That child never did come back to school.
      Big Ben still owns his property on Lake Oconee. It looks like he still brings the offensive line down to party, but not with students on a Thursday night. But with grown-ups at the ritzy golf country club.
      https://bustedcoverage.com/2015/05/07/ben-roethlisberger-antonio-brown-teammates-are-in-georgia/

      • Michael Smith

        Thats a damn shame. Amazing what people are willing to overlook.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Like the police in Milledgeville? smdh

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    Haha stupid ass white people have enabled black people to call them on their bullshit, by giving them All Of The Money.

    “But, they ere supposed to be dumb sportsball players, they were supposed to reinforce our stereotypes, not challenge them! Waaaaahhhh!”

  • jesterpunk
  • Marla

    OUTRAGED

    The Fox News troll word of the day

    • ManchuCandidate

      More like their mission statement

      • weejee

        Should be outrageous, for the drivel they dispense.

  • Antonin Dvorak

    I would love to see Colin pull a Jared Lorenzen and end up in Arena Football, where he would dominate so amazingly, he ends up as Commissioner.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Yay! Pillsbury Throwboy!

  • Ezio

    Repost: Regardless of your opinion on Jesse Ventura, you have to admit he deserves respect for sticking up for Colin Kaepernick. He basically said that the government shouldn’t mandate patriotism because that’s exactly what the Germans and Italians did in the 1930’s. Instead, he said that patriotism should be earned and that he, as a veteran fought for Kaepernick’s right to protest.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1aAG1xVoI

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      This is the first time I have been surprised in a while.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Ventura looks like a zombie George Carlin….

    • puredog

      Good on you Jesse, though broken clock something something.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        He’s a kooky nutbar, but he’s always been on the right side of civil liberties, I think.

  • ManchuCandidate

    Or he could be Jesus… Kind of looks like the not disappointed not white not hippie Jeebus who got killed (in Colin’s case career wise) because he wanted people to be nicer to each other.

  • Joe Beese

    I’m Team Kaepernick, needless to say. But you know how we like reminding right-wingers that freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequence?

    Yeah.

    • OrG

      Yeah, but they SAY it’s because he’s no good. NOT because of his politics.

      • armed_bears

        And the league’s obvious role in keeping him out… Coordinated, intentional, illegal.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      That’s true, and he knew it when he chose to sit. It’s just the men who abuse their wives don’t seem to suffer the same consequences.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Oh, you! You, with your uncomfortable truths and consistency!

    • Roadstergal

      Yup, and we who think the consequence is fuckin’ lame are allowed to say that. I don’t think any of us are asking for government-instituted consequences for the owners.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    God, I fucking hate sportsball.

    • BadKitty904

      You come sit over here by me. *pats cushion*

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I dunno, I do love the footbaws, but I’m conflicted about continuing to support the NFL. Not only because of this racist shit, but also the lack of concern (up until recently) for the concussion health of their players, the fact that the ignore all sorts of domestic abuse issues to keep players playing, and the fact that so many owners have given $$ to Trump. They really kind of suck, and knowing this is cutting into my enjoyment of watching games.

    • Wild Cat

      I left. Gave up my season tickets. No regrets.
      Once you step away from NFL fandom, you can see how corrupt and vile the game is on and off the field.
      Also, the nationalism at games is just horrifying.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        It really is ridiculous, with the flags and the fly-overs and the anthems and the parading soldiers out for color guard maneuvers.

        And I forgot to mention earlier one of their biggest sins–holding cities and states hostage to their ‘bigger, better stadium” lust at taxpayer expense. Rich guys demanding welfare.

      • FlownΩver

        No less at baseball games. They’re all “Let’s honor vets” and “Amercia the Beautimous.”

    • Three Finger Salute

      I developed an almost rabid hatred of the sport when my kid brother started playing in junior high school. He ended up having to get pretty serious surgery on his shoulder and of course got concussions. Very proud of his varsity letter, but as for me, I hate the things he had to go through to get it. Not worth it. This crap doesn’t belong in school, which is supposed to be a place where you use your brain.

      Then again, apparently it hasn’t changed much since I was there and the honor roll kids were such targets for bullying by the cheerleaders and jocks that the front office had to stop publishing the list out of concern for the potential victims. I was one of them. You know this country is circling the drain when getting legitimate A grades is the equivalent of a scarlet letter… but getting fake double Ds makes you the envy of the whole school.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Not all high schools. I formed an Academic Support committee in the PTA and we would go to the local businesses and get movie passes and gift certificates for the honor roll students. There would be a lottery every Friday and to be entered you have to have good grades. The winners would be during the announced on the PA during announcements and it really helped a lot of the kids feel more engaged.
        But then 95% of our kids go to vo-tech, military or college after HS and we host a IB program in the MS and the HS.

  • Nounverb911

    OT
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    Another charity quits Mar-a-Lago.

    https://twitter.com/pbpost/status/900814302940196865

    • BadKitty904

      Gah!

      • Indeed, that is a lot of unmoving plastic in one picture

        • BadKitty904

          At least warn people before posting that stuff.

          • elviouslyqueer

            Honey, sweetie pie, darling. Coonskin caps are so 1840s.

          • BadKitty904

            Danielle Boone be stylin’…

    • elviouslyqueer

      When Bump-Its Go Bad.

  • Ezio

    So when black men score touchdowns and dunk a ball into the hoop right wingers love them, but when it comes time to acknowledge their right not to be mercilessly gunned down while unarmed by cops, all of a sudden their tune changes.

  • Roadstergal

    I switched from football to basketball, as a fan. Initially because of the horrifying preliminary data about what football does to your brain – which is only being confirmed more and more – but I got to like it better as a GSW fan when:
    -Iggy was visibly delighted with Obama’s joke about Congressional stonewalling when visiting post-championship
    -Curry openly endorsed Clinton
    -Curry responded to UA’s CEO’s comment about Trump being ‘an asset’ to the community by requesting he remove the ‘-et’ to make the statement true.

    • Ezio

      This is real football. What we call football in America is more like handegg. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dbe89edd48a82bb8adb6e4981712734ecbafffcbe7f4634a0880accaba4a6f82.jpg

      • BadKitty904

        This is a sport that requires skill and grace.

        • Joe Beese
          • Three Finger Salute

            Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

        • Ezio

          The announcers are much more fun, also too.

        • I have to admit, I don’t get the tactics of real football, since I rarely played growing up, but it is absolutely can be a beautiful and thrilling game. European handball looks like it is really fun as well. And basketball, when not played like a wrestling match, is a beautiful game as well.

        • everstar

          One of my favorite things about Real Football is how there’s absolutely no way to make it fit into the American television format. You can’t go to three minutes of commercial during a Real Football match because something game-changing could happen in those three minutes. The first time I saw a match I was jarred by the fact that the players almost never stop moving. Compare that to American football, where on average, the ball is in motion for eleven minutes out of a three-hour game.

          • BadKitty904

            “…the players almost never stop moving.

            Having played soccer as a kiddo – it’s a Thing in Florida, given our Hispano-Caribbean population – and since my husband plays in a local amateur league, I can personally testify that you are basically running, non-stop, for 2+ hours…

    • GSW also voted to stay the hell away from Trump’s White House after winning the championship.

      No desire to give him any campaign photo ops, just flat rejection.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      I follow both football and basketball, so I have sports almost year round with a break for the summer, when I’m doing other things anyway. I gave up on baseball during the lockout and now that the Braves have moved to Tea Partyland, if I go, it’s to see one of the local minor league teams.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • writersbloc

      ^ this

  • La forza del resistino

    The tighty whiteys have a confused. A black man taking his adoptive parents Dutch name just ain’t right.

  • Marceline

    Kaepernick did some good awareness raising but he lost me when he refused to vote. I’m not taking to the barricades for people who’ll protest but not exercise the right that our ancestors died for.

    • Ellie

      I didn’t realize he didn’t vote at all. I thought he just didn’t vote for President. I didn’t, for 4 decades, because I learned at a young age that my vote didn’t count in that particular race. I finally did in 2008, 2012 and 2016 to make a statement – not because I thought it would make a difference. I will probably continue to feel that way until there is no more Electoral College. But, I vote in all other elections, etc. If that’s the case with Kaepernick (not voting at all), then I’m disappointed in him.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Yeah, I didn’t understand the not voting decision. But by then the point had been made and the damage had been done anyway.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    CK is an incredible athlete, but he has his limitations as a quarterback. He tends to take off running prematurely, and he doesn’t see the whole field when looking for receivers. But he’s better than at least a half-dozen *starting* quarterbacks. He played in 12 games last year, throwing 16 touchdown passes against 4 interceptions. He can play in the NFL, and any team that needs a quarterback to win is stupid not to sign him.

    No football for me until CK has a contract.

    • georgiaburning

      Considering the 49ers bad offensive line and lack of receivers, one can excuse a little of that.

  • OutOfOrbit

    OT but gotta wine NOW
    i live with two wimmens in a house with 1 (one) bathroom & I know, you’re sayin’, “I donut see a problem”
    Well, they are getting ready to jet off to Boston tomorrow early for a wedding on Saturday, one girl is a bride’s maid, other is groom’s mudder.

    Need I say moar?

    • You’re dude? Doesn’t that make the world your toilet? Go pee in the yard

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Yard peeing is the beez kneez, and if you’re shy, there’s always the tavern…

      • OutOfOrbit

        i DO but but but …

        • Liquid Tomato

          I’m thinking of a number, bigger than one, smaller than three.

  • Joe Beese

    A reporter asked White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders why Trump was threatening to shut down the government if Congress didn’t fund the wall’s construction, given that he had campaigned for months, and affirmed as President, that Mexico would pay for it.

    “The President’s committed to making sure this gets done,” Sanders said, not answering the question directly. “We’re going to continue to push forward and make sure that the wall gets built.”

    “Why is he threatening a shutdown over paying for it?” the reporter pressed. “I mean, again, he said over and over again—you talked about the campaign—over and over again, he said Mexico’s going to pay for the wall. He asked people—crowds chanted back at him, Mexico’s going to pay for it and now he’s threatening a shutdown of the government.”

    “Once again, the President’s committed to making sure this happens and we’re going to push forward,” Sanders said before moving on.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-dodges-questions-wall-funding

    • BadKitty904
    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Wow, talk about non-answers.

      • cmd resistor

        On the other hand, it does cover all bases for when Trump changes his mind/position again tomorrow.

    • FlownΩver

      “Because shut up is why!”

      • cmd resistor

        She is always using her kids as examples. Guess she thinks she can get away with the same answers with reporters. I’m the mom, shut UP.

    • P’jama Pahnts

      One day we’re going to see Mike Rowe from “Dirty Jobs” up there taking these questions and trying to defend Trump. I don’t have any sympathy for the spokes critters, but damn, what a shitty way to make a living.

    • That damn wall has become Trump’s version of an Egyptian Pyramid. Simply, a monument to Trump’s ego and wished for status.

  • Ellie

    I’ve certainly learned my lesson. People who march with torches, carrying the traitors’ rag and the flag of an enemy, shouting “Jews will not replace us” are actually patriots respecting (some) country and (some) flag. Black people who don’t say the PoA (original written long after the establishment of the US and its Constitution), are no good, divisive and should be beaten or lynched.

    • SnarkON

      MAGA!

  • BigCSouthside

    You know what’s really fucking stupid and counter to our founding ideals?

    Playing the fucking national anthem anywhere other than at state events, and forcing reverence to it

    • puredog

      I think that ship has sailed.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      That’s not even as bad as being expected to stand while they play that fucking Lee Greenwood song at baseball games for no fucking reason.

      • cmd resistor

        I don’t think I ever had to stand for that one, although it’s been a while since I went to a baseball game. They did play God Bless America at them a lot after 9/11. I will stand for Take Me OUt to the Ballgame.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          They pulled that shit out at a Spokane Indians game last year, then again this year at the NAIA World Series. Maybe it’s a localized phenomenon.

        • LucindathePook

          7th inning kvetch.

      • yyyaz

        As if Dawg Bwess Amerka weren’t bad enough, who makes their fans listen to that gawdawful dreck?

    • SayItWithWookies

      I’ll stand for the national anthem, but I draw the line at “God Bless America.” Enough with reverence inflation.

      • LucindathePook

        I stand if Kate Smith is singing it live, but not otherwise.

        • Snopes Shop

          Go Flyers!

    • Kooolest G

      “In the past few years, the Pentagon spent $6.8 million to pay for patriotic displays during the games of professional sports teams.”

      that’s really fucking stupid

    • Roadstergal

      My husband and a lezzie friend of mine were chatting together (not loudly) during the anthem at a motocross race. Some good ol’ boys gave ’em a talkin’ to. I wasn’t about to talk back, as one of them falling on me would surely have been fatal.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Implying that the NFL isn’t a de facto branch of the U.S. Government already. Just like the National Rifle Administration. They exist to sell aggression and testosterone and “support our troops” dying senselessly and maiming innocent civilians in third-world land grabs so billionaires can extract natural resources.

      The NFL basically serves as pro-military propaganda.

  • La forza del resistino

    Easy for me to say, but hang in there Colin and remember Muhammad Ali went through the same crap and came out on top.

    • Ezio

      Interesting point. I wonder how many people who are attacking Colin now were mourning the loss of Muhammad Ali last year…

      • Three Finger Salute

        Trump, who then went ahead and banned Muhammad Ali’s own son from entering the United States — the same week his anti-Muslim hate rhetoric radicalized a wannabe FLQ punk to kill 6 innocent Muslims during peaceful Friday prayers at their mosque in Quebec.

        “Hi, my new found friend” -Donnie

        “Oh, you piece of shit” -Justin, probably, in a cartoon thought bubble.

  • Paul Dietzel

    Nobody’s mentioned it yet, so I will: Fantasy Football, a way that “fans” can vicariously “own” various players, ya’ know, people.

    A couple nights ago PBS re-ran their 2013 Frontline about concussions and CTE. Of course, 2013 is pretty old news on that topic but they did promise “Part 2” next week,
    though I think it’s pretty old too. The thing though that hasn’t changed in those 4 years is Goodell is still a jerk, watching the NFL’s bottom line and not giving a damn about the players. The man who started out as Pete Rozelle’s chauffeur is actually payed $40 mil per year !! The NFL refused to comment on the content.
    Between a few people watching this rerun, and many more watching the ole Fresh Prince reincarnate himself as Dr. Bennet Omalu. I’m rooting for the demise of the NFL.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Fuck the NFL. They wouldn’t let DeAngelo Williams wear pink shoes in honor of his mother and 4 aunts who died from breast cancer, because it wasn’t October and the NFL’s annual Breast Cancer Awareness Merchandise Extravaganza was over. Seriously, fuck them.

  • Nounverb911

    This just in.

    What’s a Chad Henne?
    https://twitter.com/pbpost/status/900810155562070016

    • yyyaz

      Chad Henne: (noun) A preppie who lays eggs.

    • Michael Smith

      Wow there’s a blast from the past.

  • FlownΩver

    Hank Aaron’s on Kaep’s side today. Shit just got real.

  • Ezio

    Colin Kaepernick has put tons of money into his activism and his career has suffered for standing up for his beliefs. That makes him a hell of a lot more patriotic than Donnie, who only cares about himself.

    • P’jama Pahnts

      More coolness that he basically knew it would probably end his career but felt he didn’t have a choice.

  • Les Appentis De la résistance

    I love that guy’s hair but how does it fit in those helmets? Maybe it’ll protect him from injury.

    • Three Finger Salute

      He’s the only non-asshole to wear the Spaceballs helmet?

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      The hair is soft and can be pushed back. Yeah, a baseball cap can be a problem, but a football helmet? No.
      O/T – have you ever even touched a afro? The hair when picked out is like cotton candy.

      • everstar

        I was trying to figure out how to explain that one’s hair can be smooshed down under a helmet, but you beat me to it.

    • Roadstergal

      Simoncelli (RIP) could get his mop into a moto helmet…

  • Michael R
  • Eyeball

    The real reason he isn’t playing is that he just plain sucks.

    • armed_bears

      Jay Cutler exists. Your argument is invalid.

      • yyyaz

        See also: Carson Palmer and Drew Stanton.

      • Eyeball

        absolutely true. I take it back – a little.

  • Marion in Savannah

    OT (partly because feetballs bores me to tears), but Charlie Pierce had something to say about the Republican Party and unified government [snerk]:

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a57188/republicans-gridlock-themselves/

    • cmd resistor

      My fave line: “As explained, of course, this is something else about which the president* knows approximately dick.”

  • Treg Brown
    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      And nothing of value was lost.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Ironically, a millennial slogan.

    • BadKitty904

      I find both painfully tedious, if not unsanitary. Does that make me a Millipede or whatever they’re called?

      • Treg Brown

        By the powers vested in me by our Google overlords, I dub you Millipede the Magnificent and a friend to all.

        “In separate articles, the New York Times pegged the Millennials at 1976-1990 and 1978-1998.”

        • yyyaz

          Only a 12-14 year window for GenX’ers. No wonder we don’t hear from/about them anymore.

          • Treg Brown

            That seems odd doesn’t it, considering that Baby boomers are +25 years category. This reasoning must be why we are “psychologically scarred”.

          • yyyaz

            ’46-’64 was the demographic my entire life until reality flew away with the internet.

        • BadKitty904

          Hey, we were born in ’89, so I AM a Millipede!

          *kicks up his back 100 legs*

          • Treg Brown

            Flirt!

          • BadKitty904

            You devil!

          • puredog

            Can-can or GTFO!

        • jesterpunk

          I thought Millennials started in the early 80’s?

          • Treg Brown

            It does according to whom you ask. Google was all over the place on this. Perhaps it’s self defined?

      • I loved boxing and football growing up. Then I learned what punch drunk means. I lost interest in boxing. Later I learned about the effects of chronic low level concussions and I am loosing interest in football. We need to stop supporting sports where the object is to incapacitate each other.

    • TundraGrifter

      Through in boxing, horse racing, bowling almost everywhere. And golf isn’t far behind.

      • Treg Brown

        I don’t get golf. I mean, I understand how it’s played, and I’ve played several times, it’s just boring as fuck. And so much talking! Jesus. It’s like being stuck in a corner at a party with a really needy friend.

        • BeachBum

          I heard that golf was invented as a time killer while herding sheep in Scotland. It might be less boring with sheep. IDK.

          • h4rr4r

            How do the sheep hold the clubs?

          • Lascauxcaveman

            Scotsmen don’t like sheep playing defense, if you know what I mean. So they keep the clubs to themselves.

        • TundraGrifter

          Not to mention – who has 4 hours to ride around in a cart?

    • MizzMazz

      Or maybe,it’s because people’s tastes change. Chuck-E-Cheeze is getting rid of the animotronic band because it scares the fuck out of the kids, and the pizza and games suck. Crap chain restaurants are crap, but for many, that was all they had until they got to enjoy nice food at lower prices even. Food Trucks used to be called ‘Roach coaches’ and now they’re a big fun deal.
      Stuff changes, and things that were enormously popular for a while will fade away eventually.

      • h4rr4r

        The pizza these days is actually not that bad. I was at one this year.

        • MizzMazz

          My experience is about 20 years old (so glad my son decided he didn’t like it) but it was crap then. Places like that; it depends on who you have working there, and if they give a damn about doing a good job. Glad you had a decent slice. I think the environment pissed me off, and all the gambling games (except Skee-Ball – even God likes that) and paying for a bunch of tickets to get a sorry piece of plastic tat did not help.

          • h4rr4r

            I went as a kid 30 years ago and it was like you described.

            They actually a few years ago changed the ingredients used. They also have moved to more fun games.

          • MizzMazz

            Good. I could get behind arcade style games (keep the Skee-Ball). A parent could put up with that for a while.

          • h4rr4r

            The only change I would like to see is them get rid of the beer. Heck, even just getting rid of the cheap beer would solve it.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Everything changes.

        • MizzMazz

          Yeah, like those green jello tuna celery monstrosities my gran would make, and call it ‘Luncheon’ You don’t see those anymore, unless you’re actively looking for them. I really don’t remember hating it, but I was a kid, and food was food.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            Wedge salads. Those came back for a minute and my dad was happy.

          • MizzMazz

            I actually liked those, as they are a delivery system for bacon and blue cheese. :D

        • Robert Gibson

          War. War never changes…

    • BlissfulScribbler

      Hmmmm… one pro football ticket or dozens and dozens of avocados….

      • Treg Brown

        Amazon Prime members get a discount on avocados at Whole Foods as an incentive to help save that house down payment. Can’t get that with football tickets :- )

    • everstar

      They can’t kill “breastaurants” fast enough for my taste. Ugh.

  • Mr. Lambert

    In the NFL, the business of winning comes before the business of politics. If a team thought they could win with Kaepernick, he’d have a job.

    • I am sorry, but no. The business of selling tickets and jerseys comes before the business of winning or politics. If the NFL thinks that Kap causes some of their white fan base to not support the team, they will not sign him. It is just as much about the money as the wins.

      • h4rr4r

        Winning sells merchandise and tickets.

        • Not always. Charismatic and popular players sell more. For example Joe Namath sold a lot of stuff. He didn’t really win all that much.

          • Kooolest G

            I used to be in the business of selling tickets, or “putting butts in seats” as soon as we dictate that team owners have to hire people who might hurt ticket sales, then we also have to force movie studios to hire mel gibson.

          • I never said anyone has to hire Kap, just don’t lie about his skill level. He could be starting on a third to half of the teams and is better than most of the back up QBs in the league.

          • h4rr4r

            He has to run too much. That is a fact.

            He is an average QB who makes provocative statements, if he was less talented he would be gone already, if he was better he would have been hired anyway.

          • Last year, despite playing on a sucky team with a coach who has a proven record of losing at the pro level, Kap ranked 6th in interception efficiency, i.e. not giving the ball away. From the touchdown wire:
            “While the Niners were horrible last year record-wise, Kaepernick was surprisingly efficient in the passing game. The fact that he had the sixth-lowest interception percentage among quarterbacks last year is impressive and only furthers the case that Kaepernick should be signed to a roster.”

          • h4rr4r

            Because he is very selective in when he throws. To excel he needs a team that can let him run.

            He will get signed. Likely for less than he would like.

          • Kooolest G

            I think his skill level has very little to do with it, some would argue mel gibson is a better actor than tom hanks, or that sean penn is a better actor than jimmy fallon, but the movie studio owner or football team owner could give 2 shits about skills and really cares about selling tickets. in the end it’s all just entertainment so whoever entertains us enough to buy a ticket is who gets the job.

          • Are you not reading my posts at all. We are agreeing that the reason Kap is not signed is that owners think he will drive down ticket/merchandising sales. The problem is that they are claiming that he is not a good enough player to even be a backup. That is false, and the statistical evidence doesn’t back them up. I am only advocating that teams be honest about their reasons for not signing him.

          • Kooolest G

            I think we’re arguing over agreeing with each other, you’re right, they don’t care if he’s good or not, just entertaining. I have this fight with myself all the time while I rationalize the fact that I work in one of the most racist industries out there, the entertainment industry. what other industry can specify what color of applicants they want for a job in the ad for the job. here that’s called casting. there’s even a secret code for racism here. sometimes I work on things that are for the “AA” market,(AA=african american) they used to call it the “urban” market but that was too racist so they changed it. the one thing that helps me rationalize it is sometimes I get to work for this company who gave kaepernick a contract and made this ad with him specifically because of his activism

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ttsx5squWg

        • TundraGrifter

          Under the socialistic revenue-sharing system of the NFL, teams are guaranteed to make money – win, lose or draw.

        • Three words: Toronto. Maple. Leafs. Haven’t won anyfuckingthing since the 60s

          • h4rr4r

            Does not count, no competition in that market. The minute Hamilton gets a team that would change.

          • Ah. So you’ve never met a Leaf fan.

          • h4rr4r

            I live in Buffalo, I see them many times a year.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Sign the rookie from Papineau, he’ll dazzle the other team with his smile and his charm and the Leafs will have more points on the board than a Wilt Chamberlain basketball game.

            Won’t happen, of course, because Trudeau is a Habs fan.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          That doesn’t explain how people are acquiring Browns paraphernalia.

          • h4rr4r

            Homeless shelters?

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time
        • Lascauxcaveman

          Yep. Kinda surprised they didn’t snap him up. Flacco’s getting old.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Jed York doesn’t care about winning. He cares about merchandising and PR and making sure nobody knows too much about the sweetheart deal he got to build a stadium 37 zip codes away with public money.

    • h4rr4r

      Yup, a QB that must always have an option to run is not ever going to be that popular. His completion percentage is great because he won’t throw if it’s not a perfect situation.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Mike Vick Libelz!1!1!111

        • h4rr4r

          I don’t think that is possible.

          That anyone hired him is still something I don’t understand.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            He did his time. He’s stayed out of trouble. He should be hired, if he can do the job.

          • h4rr4r

            People who abuse animals do not deserve to be hired. Just like those rwnj at CVille.

            That animal abuse is so lightly punished says a lot about our society.

    • Michael Smith

      Well, I think the business of business probably comes before winning, but that winning is good business. Maybe they are afraid Kap will drive down ticket and jersey sales? But at the same time, there are people who would buy his jersey now even though they never watch football.

      So maybe they are afraid that the media circus which would inevitably follow him (it did in San Fran) would hamper winning, because it would cause the team to lose focus. In fact, that’s probably what most owners would say if you pressed them.

      • Most owners would also tell you they care deeply about player safety, but that is bullshit as well.

        • h4rr4r

          They do care, much in the same way a race horse owner or race dog owner would. They care until they get too old or injured, if they could they would use the same treatment in the end.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Nah, they’ll buy his jersey if only to burn it. Under Armor doesn’t care what you do with the shirt. They get a sale either way.

        Yay capitalism.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        I just bought his jersey to wear when it’s not game day. And it’s on clearance everywhere. I don’t know if that is because people are waiting for him to get signed by a new team. I don’t care because the Falcons don’t need a QB or a backup QB.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      In a rational world, sure. But in this world, it’s all about the green. The NFL’s biggest moneymaker is the TV rights (fun fact: the National Anthem is not broadcast during the season – the networks always go to commercial then). Most of the money in ticket sales is in the high-priced luxury boxes, which are bought by corporations to schmooze investors and/or government officials.
      The average Joe sitting up in the nosebleed seats? Sure his money’s good. But they can get his money just as easily selling him an NFL Sunday Ticket Package (or at least a cable package with NFL RedZone), Merchandising? That’s the gravy.

  • SnarkON

    I hate myself for loving NFL football.

    • I love myself for hating NFL football.

    • hudson

      is this the one where they carry the ball with their hands to score home runs? :)

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Yep.

    • BeachBum

      Nobody is perfect. On Sundays I watch PBS Masterpiece after football to make up for lost brain cells.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Me too. But I only follow my conference NFC South. People who do fantasy and all that are way beyond my level of interest.

  • FlownΩver

    You know who else used sports to advance his racial shit?

  • Indiepalin

    Colin Kaepernick should follow the lead of Tim Tebow and try out for the WNBA.

  • TundraGrifter

    One of the dumbest comments I’ve heard about this situation came from “Boomer” Esiason. He said he wouldn’t want him on his team because football wasn’t supposed to be “political.” So his opinion is based on what this gentleman has said and done – in other words, a political decision because the other guy is political.

    • OrG

      Boomer’s white. See the difference.

      • OutOfOrbit

        irony is only recognized by brains with cogency

      • Rick Hill

        I was just thinking, you can’t get much whiter….

      • Lascauxcaveman

        And Boomer is sort of a poster boy for the brain-damaging effects of the game. Boy ain’t all there.

    • BadKitty904

      This is why we don’t ask guys named “Boomer” for their opinions.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy
        • BadKitty904

          Too. Also.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Michael Phelps named his son that. Probably the first time a person born in the 2010s can be called a baby Boomer.

        • BadKitty904

          A “boomer,” Down Here, is a type of swamp bird.

    • Shibusa

      Boomer Esiason is a Trump-fan.

    • Michael Smith

      When I had idiot Kilmeade on, he said the same bullshit. “Americans like football and politics to be separate.”

      Really? Then why do you take the camera up and down both sidelines showing how reverent the players are during the National Anthem? That’s not political?

      Americans don’t want to see politics if it means having to confront an idea they disagree with.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Didn’t the NFL just get nailed last year for getting government money to promote and pump up all those gooey, sappy, military reunion events where some serviceman or woman “surprises” their family on the field?

        • Michael Smith

          I don’t know – I thought they are openly taking D.O.D. money, and I know that’s why they force the players to stand in reverence during the National Anthem (the players didn’t used to even have to be out on the field). So the reunions might be part of the advertisement package for the military.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Arthur Blank, owner of the Atlanta Falcons, was clobbered for charging the DoD.
          http://newstome.blog.ajc.com/2015/05/11/falcons-paid-1-million-to-honor-military-hometown-heroes/

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        It was only recently that the NFL started requiring players to leave the locker room and stand for the anthem- 2009 was the first year. And much of the reason for that is all the money that the DoD has showered on the NFL

        • Michael Smith

          Yeah the D.O.D. is one of the NFL’s biggest sponsors, and they use the NFL for recruitment. They designed the national anthem choreography as part of recruitment. There’s also military stuff everywhere and commercials, etc.

          • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

            It seems like pandering to me. And the anthem arguments are shit anyway. People are still coming in. They are in the lines buying beer and in the bathroom. Half the fans are not in their seats.
            Here in Georgia, some of the high school students starting taking a knee and the RWNJs started having fits. On the local news, they asked one young man what he was thinking about during the anthem, and he said that he was praying for the people who had been killed by the police. And his teammates joined him and voila, the story went away.

      • TundraGrifter

        If they really understood what America stands for they’d support him. Just like the people who whine about flag burning. I’m not for it and I’m not going to do it. But the right to do it is the most important thing.

    • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

      GOP decided to make golf political so ….

    • BeachBum

      I doubt that anyone named “Boomer” would understand much anyway.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Who the fuck cares. Boomer is stupid and was before he suffered from multiple concussions.

  • hudson

    we can arm ourselves against the “tyranny of the govt” and openly wield those weapons, but god forbid we kneel in protest.

    if we’all don’t have the freedom to register protest non-violently, what the fuck is the meaning of freedom?

    • OrG

      Tax cuts.

      • Three Finger Salute

        …for Jesus.

    • OutOfOrbit

      THE DOOD WAS BLACK! that is the problem (sic sic sic sic sic)

      • sarafina

        Still is.

  • BadKitty904

    Just think how the GOPflakes would quiver if Kaepernick bowed to a foreign potentate.

    • MizzMazz

      But what if he held a glowing globe in Saudi Arabia? That seems to be okay to the GOP.

  • Amelia Resists and Persists

    Screw the NFL. They make billions of dollars every year treating their players with less care and respect than a rancher has for his cattle. At least cattle get adequate medical attention, and being paid millions per season doesn’t mean shit if you’re dead before you can enjoy that financially stable retirement.

    The fact that they’re being gross in this context as well is far from surprising. Think of the cheap merchandise they won’t be able to sell to racists! How would they ever survive???

    As for Fox, their top article on the news app right now is an opinion piece mocking Hillary for being creeped out by Trump at the debate. They are trash humans working for a trash organization. Fox and the NFL deserve each other.

  • jaspersdad

    Come to Canada Colin. The CFL would be thrilled to have you.

    • h4rr4r

      Damning with faint praise.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Would you take Tebow, too?

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Can’t wait until September, when the LOLMets call him up to put butts in seats.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Give it time.

      Math ran out of numbers for how much winning Trudeau keeps doing.

  • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

    Just ordered a Kaepernick jersey. All the vendors have them on clearance.

    • JoeChristmas

      But they can’t keep those confederate nazi flags in stock.

  • Looks like the CFL is getting another great player that’s ousted from the NFL for stupid, stupid reasons!

  • Three Finger Salute

    The national anthem is a stupid war-porn tune that cribs the melody of an English drinking song — which is the country that we fought the war against, and LOST.

    Even if racism wasn’t a part of it, the SSB is a really dumb choice for a national anthem anyway. America really has a problem with being butthurt about losing wars. It should be Canada’s anthem, except Canadians don’t masturbate to that clip of Slim Pickens riding the bomb like a yee-ha cowboy Mountie.

    And “O Canada” didn’t even become their anthem until (cough) Trudeau Sr (cough) was in his last term in office! They were even going to change the lyrics if it wasn’t for those meddling Harpercons not wanting to get on board with the current year and gender equality!

    Meanwhile, ours has become an ossified relic that can’t be messed with, because it’d be like futzing with a hymn dictated to George Washington directly from God himself. Which is exactly what the Founders didn’t want: to be worshiped as gods (complete with statues) and the structure of the government, the history of its founding, even its “official” soundtrack, turned into a de facto religion.

    I can’t believe what an idiotic controversy this is. If anything, Kaepernick is calling attention to how Americans have fucking retconned their entire history into a simplistic Mary Sue fanfic where Liberty always wins against whoever the “bad guys” are. In this case, uppity blacks and Canadians. This country is so fucking stupid. You’re ready to “sack” this guy over a song celebrating a war you fucking lost to CANADA.

    Solution? Nuke Canada so that we win this time!!!111!

    https://fthmb.tqn.com/yJZReK85gXqu94F7LQ-E_zJ5eJ0=/768×0/filters:no_upscale()/about/facepalmbear-5804f2af3df78cbc28913ff7.PNG

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I guess the words, “O’er the land of the free” are meaningless to you.

      • sarafina

        To me it means land of the free, but I’m white. To a person of color, not-so-much which I think is the point of Kap’s protest. And yes, the NFL is run by snowflakes.

        • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

          Verse 4 mentions slavery.

          • sarafina

            Oh For Fuck’s Sake. I’ve never heard the 4th verse sung at a ball game.

      • Three Finger Salute

        “…market invisible hand”?

    • SadDemInTex

      The best option would always be America, the Beautiful.

      • yyyaz

        A much better tune, but still don’t need any sky fairy grace being shed on me, I’m allergic.

        • SadDemInTex

          At least “crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea” ends that sentence.

          • Three Finger Salute

            “And dump more oil, into the soil, from sea to sponsored sea”

            -“Real” America version.

          • SadDemInTex

            I’m telling you anything is better than our current anthem. And why steal from a drinking song? I’ve never gotten over that. At least the tune “God Save Our Gracious Queen” is a good tune and one that every Revolutionary period person knew. Tin Pan Alley tried..”God Bless America”…but it was written by a Jew…so I suspect that was out from the get-go.

      • Three Finger Salute

        ‘Course it would. But it’s got tree-hugger environment stuff in it, and purple mountains over fruity plains. Too much ghey for teh USA.

      • Roadstergal

        Yup, I agree. What I’m proud of about our country isn’t rockets and bombs or flag-worship, it’s the purple mountains’ majesty and the fruited plains. If only we had some kind of environmental protection agency to make sure we could keep having nice things like that…

      • shoeflyin

        Drive up Pikes peak if you get a chance, and see what Inspired the song (by a woman I believe). Truly awesome.

    • jesterpunk

      Next you will say something about the original salute during the pledge of allegiance.

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Bellamy_salute_1915.jpg/1200px-Bellamy_salute_1915.jpg

      • Blackest Noobs

        hail, hail rock and roll?!?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      The first time it was played at a sporting event was WWI – during the seventh-inning stretch at Game 1 of the 1918 World Series (13 years before it even became the national anthem). It wasn’t until the 1940’s, during WWII, that it became a fixture before games.

  • Iron Monkey

    Owning an NFL franchise is like being handed bags of money every day. They have a salary cap and with the TV contracts the owners are all but guaranteed a profit every year. You would have to be really stupid to not get richer owning a franchise.

    • Rags

      “Hold my beer.” – DJT

    • JoeChristmas

      And they have monopoly status too.
      The Swindler in Chief singlehandedly took down an alternative league. Just another of his forgotten business “successes.”

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Not forgotten. I linked the 30 for 30 on that below.

  • theblackdog

    This is why I wish Bisciotti had just kept his damn mouth shut if he wasn’t actually going to sign Kaepernick. I have no issue with what Kaep did and I’m not sure Mallett is going to be the answer either this year especially if Joe continues to have issues with his back.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Are Mallett and Flacco the same blood type? Because outside of that, I don’t know how Mallett could ever be the answer at quarterback.

      • theblackdog

        I don’t know either, other than as an emergency backup, like he was when Flacco was hurt.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Baltimore would have been a good fit for Kaep.

  • Juan de Fuca

    During lunch today, I saw a guy wearing a t-shirt that read:
    “I SERVED.
    I STAND.”

    I thought to myself that somebody should come up with a shirt that says:

    “I SERVED.
    I’LL STAND, SIT OR DANCE IF I WANT TO.”

    • Blackest Noobs

      or

      “I SERVED.
      I’LL STAND WHEN THE VA GIVES ME BACK MY GODDAMN LEGS, AND IF YOU’RE NOT TOO BUSY, SOME ARMS TOO WOULD BE NICE.”

    • I served
      So you can Stand, Sit or Dance if you want to

      • Juan de Fuca

        I like that one better :)

    • Roadstergal

      I served both coffee and cocktails at various points in my career.

    • everstar

      Out of context, that shirt is extremely confusing.

      • Juan de Fuca

        I agree, it could be. Just like the joke behind it. I still need to work out the wrinkles.

        ETA: Was more of a joke about something I saw today and not something I would really try to sell to others.

        https://youtu.be/AjPau5QYtYs

        • everstar

          Oh, it bugs me too, and I’m not a vet. I’m all for supporting veterans but the dog and pony show at football games borders uncomfortably close on fetishistic for my taste. I once saw a bumper sticker that said, “If you’re reading this, thank a teacher. If you’re reading this in English, thank a soldier.” I drove the rest of the way home trying to figure out when exactly in our history the US had been in “danger” of not speaking English. The only enemy troops that ever marched on the capital were also English-speaking, after all.

  • BeachBum

    I miss watching Jim Brown handing the ball to the ref after scoring a touchdown and calmly walking to the bench. No dancing, flips, jumping into the stands, shitty ass poses for the cameras. I guess I miss class.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Professionalism.

    • BreakingDeadMen

      And there’s a guy who never spoke his mind….

    • Bitter Scribe

      And to this day you can find white sportswriters who insist that Jim Brown “never blocked anyone.”

    • everstar

      I confess to having a soft spot for the Lambeau Leap, but that’s because I like Green Bay actually being owned by its town.

  • Blackest Noobs

    i would prefer this to be the new national anthem but im probably in the minority on this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz5yAmglCR8

    • stubbornirishlass

      There was a push many years back to replace The Star Spangled Banner with America the Beautiful as our national anthem, partly on the grounds that it’s much easier for the average person to sing. Really unfortunate that the effort failed.

      EDIT: Aaaand apologies, as I see this was brought up downthread…

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    ““How in the world can we call ourselves the land of the free, the home of the brave, and you get vilified and criminalized just for speaking your mind?” the Rev. Jamal Bryant said.”

    I’m gonna get fucking slammed here for saying this, BUT, looking it at totally neutral, this is what is happening with the Nazi/KKK people being outed and fired. NOTE: I agree with Kaepernick and I think it’s a shame he can’t get a job for making a silent, non disruptive point, but its’ legal. (It’s especially shameful giving the noted various attempted murderers and domestic abusers who’ve gotten work).

    (prepares defenses for incoming…)

    • Doug Langley

      One slight difference. Kaepernick actually has marketable job skills.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        well, hot dog making can be a skill, depending on the local economy.
        ; P

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Hot dog selling, and maybe “cooking,” might even be “skills.” I think this example didn’t include actual makingz.

    • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

      Collusion by the owners to “blackball” Kaep is not legal.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        I was JUST going to comment about this. I was going to say, I don’t know the ins and outs of NFL ownership and player employment, nor do I know more than “nobody seems to want to hire him.” But point taken.

    • everstar

      I would argue that learning your co-workers are neo-Nazis or Klan members is far more damaging to morale than learning that a co-worker thinks black people get shot too often by police, but yes, I take your point. It does creep me out a little bit when people get fired for their viewpoints. Take that bloke who got fired from Google for writing that memo about why women don’t advance: I thought Google should have kept him on, and sent him around to all the women staffers to explain his theory to them, and ask them for their input. They could have streamed it online and sold the viewing rights.

  • BearLeft

    How TF did we get here, where a sadly major television network can call Nazi rallies “free speech” and refusal to stand for the national anthem sedition? ‘Cause it worked so well in the ’40s.

    • Elendira

      Nazi Rallies in which a person was FUCKING KILLED free speech but a black man peaceably taking a knee during the opening anthem is a traitor to the United States

      • sarafina

        A white woman was FUCKING KILLED by free speech. That’s when shit got real, never mind anything a black man might do.

  • HazooToo

    Yes, his activism is the problem. Because he is making his stand over cops killing black people, and racist fuckers are getting mad. And he’s not backing down from this activism because HE’S FUCKING RIGHT, Thomas Lott, you absolute fucking dish sponge!

  • JMP

    But if he tortured dogs, beat his wife or raped many women the NFL would have no problem hiring him as a starting quarterback.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      Given all that, I”m still kind of amazed that running back rickie williams (who went to ut at the same time I did) ended up getting bounced out of the NFL for smoking weed. That guy was FAST when I saw him play.

      IIRC, he got into trouble for testing positive twice. When faced with choosing hte NFL or weed, he said “Fuck it” and went to Canada to play. (He also seemed to have a tough time adapting to the NFL. SI did a thing where they published a journal/retrospective of his rookie year).

      • JMP

        The NFL also refused to hire the one college football star to openly come out as gay; it’s almost like their standards are right-wing and completely immoral.

        • BreakingDeadMen

          Michael Sam was drafted by the Rams, missed the final cut, and was picked up by the Cowboys, who then cut him. He was too small and slow for the pro game. He was given a chance.

    • Blackest Noobs

      yeah sure cuz according to some other guy here, Kaepernick’s protest is meaningless because Kaepernick isn’t a great quarterback.

      if you’re good at something, apparently you are given license to be a shitty person, and if you’re a good person and not good at something, who cares.

      dumb logic if you ask me.

  • Doug Langley
  • Robert Gibson
  • TootsStansbury

    I used to enjoy a football game but ever since they got all glossy and corporate with loud brainwash music and stuff exploding I just don’t anymore. My home team’s name is racist as fuck and the assholes won’t change it. Fuck all that.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      remember games in the mud and rain? Those looked like so much fun (our backyard ones certainly were.)

      • TootsStansbury

        Yes. Our team loved the mud and rain.

  • Ωbjectifier

    Kaepernick is radioactive but Vick was A-OK.
    I am done with pro football.

    • clubseal

      Vick was just murdering dogs, while Kaepernick was murdering the troops!111!!! Doncha know.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Vick is a vile piece of trash. But he did his time. He was suspended, served his sentence and deserved to be reinstated.

        • sarafina

          You seem like a real dickhead.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

          • RastaBob

            I bet you kiss your mother with YOUR mouth – she says you use too much tongue though.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            How droll.

  • Fancy Meau-Faux

    I wonder if his issues are exacerbated by being a black quarterback? NFL quarterbacks are overwhelmingly white as it is. Something that seems likely due to racism, either conscious or unconscious.

    • BreakingDeadMen

      Black QBs have made a lot of inroads in the last couple of decades.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    Kaepernick’s biggest problem is that he is not that great at the quarterbacking. The protest is certainly not aiding his job quest, but if he was more productive it wouldn’t matter. As it is, he’s a marginal player that brings a distraction to the team in terms of the press that is outsized relative the utility he brings to it.

    Sure, he started in a Super Bowl. So did Rex Grossman and several other mediocre journeymen. He inherited a great situation in San Francisco and had some early success, but the other teams figured his game out; last year his team went 2-14, 1-11 with him starting. One win from twelve starts. In all the hullabaloo around him, what I never hear is people saying about how Colin is dedicated to studying the game and becoming a better quarterback. It takes dedication to the sport to be successful, and it’s not clear he still has it.

    Nobody who has the idea that they are building a team to win football games is viewing Kaepernick as a starter. Yes, you can find worse reserve players, but they will be lower profile and many of them will have more upside in terms of potential to get better. He may end up with a team after their quarterback is lost to injury, but it’s not simply racism and politics that is leaving him at home right now. If he demonstrated a commitment to becoming a better quarterback, more teams would be willing to take him on. IMO.

    • Blackest Noobs

      his protest is no less because he is a lesser quarterback.
      you are focusing on the wrong thing.

      • Pisto75666

        Kaep’s problems are that 1. He hasn’t abused any women or children 2. Doesn’t do drugs (as far as I know of) and 3. Hasn’t abused any animals. If he stopped protesting and did those things, he’d be so beloved he wouldn’t know what to do.

        • BreakingDeadMen

          If anything, the appearance of being blackballed makes his protest seem more righteous.

          • Pisto75666

            *shrug* If you say so.

          • everstar

            Ah-ha! Maybe he’s collaborating with the owners to appear to be blackballed to create sympathy for his cause! It all makes sense now!

          • BreakingDeadMen

            False flag!

          • everstar

            Sorry, I know I’m just giving Fox ideas.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i seem to recall this same train of thought about the gay player. Problem is, PLENTY of these guys lead distracting off and on-field lives. It’s just being gay and protesting are apparently unacceptable “distractions.”

      • BreakingDeadMen

        There are plenty of other players that have joined in kneeling during the anthem and are not blackballed. Kaepernick started it, I agree that it is having a negative impact on his ability to find employment, but it’s just one of the negatives he brings. Michael Vick is a worse human, but he was better at the job. Robert Griffin III is a former starter who is currently unsigned as well; despite some early success, he’s played his way out of the league–partly due to propensity for injury, but, like Kaepernick, partly due to his failing to demonstrate improvement on the field. As for Sam, he got some shots, then moved on to the CFL, but didn’t make it there either.

        • chimpevil

          You’re full of crap. As a Steelers fan who has followed the woes of the Cleve Brownies, who drafted compulsive asshole Johhny Manziel first round a few years ago, and is planning to go with a bunch of mediocrities and/or rookies who will get destroyed in the division, Kaepernick would be like Brady compared with the swill they are running through camp now. And that’s just one team. He’s being blackballed and you know it.

          • What Pierre said

            The Browns have had approximately 697 QBs in the last 10 years (give or take) and none of them have been better than Kaepernick – I cannot upfist this enough.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            They have a similar veteran in Oswiller and have drafted qbs in each of the last two drafts. Last year I would agree, but he makes no sense for the 2017 edition, who I hope don’t ruin Kizer.

          • SeeTrain65

            I’ve seen Osweiler in the preseason. He’s been excellent … at over-throwing his receivers. And I’m sure Jimmy Haslem, the same guy who loved stiffing his own customers in his other businesses, is going to be thrilled to pay that $16M contract this year.

            AFA Kiser is concerned, I’m on the fence. I have a particular aversion for quarterbacks who can’t stay in the pocket. They have a irritating tendency to end up on the Injured or Physically Unable to Perform lists. One can hope, I guess, but I’m generally a Cleveland sports pessimist.

            Which is why I found this to be particularly interesting: “Should The Browns cut Brock Osweiler?”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP-K2lHgQQ0

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Yeah, he’s not Kosar or even Sipe. But it’s not clear CK is better.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            I personally think starting Kizer from week one is terrible for his career prospects. Idk the $ ramifications of keeping Oswiller vs. cutting him, but I think put him in there till the kid gets more practice.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Manziel worked his way out of the league years before CK. Kizer and Oswiller are better options today than Kaepernick for Cleveland, and Kessler is too young to give up in, cheaper and experienced in the Browns system.

          • chimpevil

            Manziel was with Cleveland when he flamed out and there’s no way Kizer and Osweiler are better options than Kaepernick. James Harrison at 39 will eat them both for lunch.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Manziel played all of two seasons before he was released. They never threw good money after bad on him, which a team that signed CK in the hopes that he was the answer would be doing. Do you honestly think the Browns would win a significant number of more games with Kaepernick in there? Do you think his presence changes the outcome of games against your Steelers? Kizer is a talented rookie who may grow into a quality starter. Even Kessler has more developmental upside. Kaepernick has proven he cant lead a rebuilding team, so where is his appeal to a team in the Browns position? Maybe if they cut Oswiler, even then it’s not clear he is a great mentor type at the position .

        • Vick really wasn’t much better, and Griffin sucked for all DC kept pushing his star power.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Vick, in addition to being a sociopath, never lived up to his ability. But he was a tier above Kap, if not very high on that tier.

          • Sakonyachen

            Yeah, after we had Bradford in STL for so long,I can’t agree with your assessment on Kap. Vic was definitely a bigger waste of potential than Alan Iverson though.

    • Drinkalong

      Good point. I respect him for his stand/kneel, for his upbringing and path to some success. You are totally correct: if CK became a real student of the game and did improve his quarterbacking/leadership role…this conversation might not be happening. I do wish him all good fortune tho’…kind of a deep well to climb out of.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        For sure.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      I don’t buy the rationalization that he’s not under contract because he is a bad or mediocre quarterback. CK is not an elite quarterback, but he’s not a bum either. There are worse quarterbacks on NFL rosters. The Miami Dolphins just signed ***Jay Cutler***, for pete’s sake. At least Cutler will provide material for the “C’mon Man” highlight reel.

      No football for me until CK has a contract.

    • ginos_way

      Sure, and Ezekiel Elliott draws a six-game suspension for beating the hell out of a woman? The league is fkg diseased. While I have no response to what the hell to do with several hundred large, fast, athletic people who might be out of work if the NFL failed, I do hope Jerry Jones and the rest of the billionaire racists all die penniless and in pain under a bridge somewhere, the way Mike Webster died alone in a broken down pickup, homeless, deranged, trying to glue his teeth back in as his brain had turned to jelly. Fuck them all.

  • Spurning Beer

    That does it. I’m not going to watch NFL games or pre-games, or buy NFL merchandise any more.

    It’s going to be tough, because I’ve already renounced NASCAR and MMA programming, all the Talent and Dancing shows, stories about zombies or FBI agents, golf, baseball, basketball, volleyball, table tennis, cricket, hockey, air hockey, beer pong, and rhythmic gymnastics.

    • dshwa

      I am a sports guy, but I quit the NFL three years ago when the latest concussion lawsuit settlement let them bury their data, which reportedly looked at the risks down to as young as pop warner. As a healthcare professional, that was a bridge to far. Not just about the kids, but about burying any data. People need to make informed decisions even if getting paid millions.

  • The Librarian

    I don’t follow sports that much, except via la radio news. I don’t know stats. Mr. K is being ostracized, imho

    • BreakingDeadMen

      His stats aren’t bad except for the win/loss record, which is the important one.

      • The Librarian

        Ok, but is “aren’t bad” good enough to be a starting QB? Kinda sounds like that’s a low bar, but that it is acceptable (I read a few other stories to try to get perspective). If so, then Mr. K. is being blacklisted.

        • BreakingDeadMen

          He’s not good enough to be a starting quarterback. He lost that job at San Francisco, but regained it and led them to the second worst record of the 32 teams. He’s good enough to be a back up. But he brings the media scrutiny associated with a star, which makes him a distraction for the team. My guess is he ends up signing somewhere when someone gets hurt.

          • The Librarian

            Got it. Looked at a few more articles, including the LATimes one. It is a slippery slope and I see both sides. It still smells a bit fishy, but it looks like a mid season start will be in his future.

          • Sakonyachen

            I do have to say that the NFL has one solid argument if they would own it. They run the risk of alienating lot of paying customers if he’s on a team. They won’t add many paying customers if he is signed.

          • The Librarian

            I understand. I can’t help thinking it’s a little bit like interference, as in the business sense. I know it’s not really the same, because talent is talent and if you don’t really have it, pfffft. There seems to be quite diverse opinions on whether he does. Add controversy to the mix and you have a big problem.

          • Sakonyachen

            I know a bit about his overall performance, he seems solid enough to start on plenty of teams. Definitely good enough to be second string. Controversy like this is the last thing any NFL team wants. Their product is the US equivalent of the ancient Roman Gladiators. The upper crust didn’t want to be questioned then, nothing has changed about that.

          • cleanplace-reasonablypriced

            I disagree. An awful lot of folks who give not one shit about football will line up to buy the jersey of whichever team decides to upgrade on their shitty back-up. Enough to offset the racists? I’m not sure.

          • Sakonyachen

            Each ticket costs as much as a jersey, and the advertising dollars are exponentially more. Unfortunately, as long as nobody catches the irony of pearl clutching over a dude that won’t stand for an anthem that all networks view as less important than adtime, the racist types have the edge.

          • What Pierre said

            People have already gotten hurt (Flacco) and been replaced w QBs worse than Kaepernick. He is definitely one of the 64 best QBs, making him a definite backup, and arguably one of the best 32, considering the Jets are still actually a pro team.

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Yeah, Baltimore is a place he would seem to make sense; but there are rookies and 2nd, 3rd year players being developed as well that impact that ranking. Baltimore probably should have looked at him, but when speaking of the Ravens I have to point out that Art Modell is fluffing Satan for eternity.

          • What Pierre said

            He and Steinbrenner are taking turns while James Dolan has to watch (Dolan is still alive you say? Eh, he still has to watch)

  • dshwa

    He’s very much being blackballed, and the players know it.

    Best signs though, are that more players are kneeling, and not just black ones.

    • chimpevil

      I think the term here should be ‘whiteballed’.

      • Sakonyachen

        Or at least ‘white lies’.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    This is a pretty good piece from the Los Angeles Times sports page that looks at it from a few sides:

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-kaepernick-farmer-20170812-story.html

  • aktlib101

    Concussion cover-up.
    Screwed up health care for retired NFL veterans (the “not wealthy” veterans).
    Blatant racism.
    Screw the NFL and Goodell with his greedy puppet masters.

  • little miss high and mighty

    Here’s to his weal should some system sign him- now that would be a brave team ownership move. Here’s also hoping he can keep his chops in the meanwhiles.

  • What Pierre said

    What I find grimly amusing is the ‘unofficial’ Kaepernick blacklist seems to have backfired on the owners. Instead of the players learning their place, more and more are making similar gestures, some of whom are at least as talented as the wife and/or child beaters they accept back into the league w open arms after token punishment. (Queue much clutching of pearls and tut tuttery) /s

    • That is how sacrifice works.
      Unfortunatly, humans seem to need to see “There but for the grace of (whatever deity) before they too will act, speak up, stand up, etc.

      • What Pierre said

        Oh I agree, but if even one of the owners, just one, hadn’t been such a bigoted ass-munch and hired Kaepernick over the off-season, or taken one for “team rich white guy” aka the owners, there may not have been as many players angry enough to have risked their own careers to continue Kaep’s protest on their own. And the more players protest, the less the owners are able to blackball all of them. It has been partially due to the owners’ continuing idiocy that Kaep became (Kaep kept being?) a bigger and bigger symbol and, in the end, the owners amplified the protest they hoped to suppress. I suppose, in a way we should thank them (we should not thank them).

  • Sakonyachen

    There are some groups urging black people to boycott the NFL now. I stopped watching them a while ago with the way they tiptoe around the players that commit crimes until the video comes out, suddenly it’s time for a suspension. It’s not a big deal until they think someone will stop watching.

    • I find it kinda amusing that they are all well he just is not good enough! And yet…how many teams were willing to sign Tebow despite how he constantly fucked up and sucked and refused to change positions or improve on the field?
      I ain’t sayin it was aliens but…..

      • Sakonyachen

        I’m from STL on the Illinois side. We had Sam Bradford play for the Rams for like six years. And by played, I mean stayed on the disabled list 90% of the time and sucked the other 10%. The upper class white trash ladies really liked him. If that guy could go that long without winning, there’s no way Kaepernick couldn’t be a starter.

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Tebow was out of the league quicker, fwiw.

  • Sakonyachen

    The odd part is, the whole controversy is over something that happens during the national anthem. The networks don’t air this part because they are using the time to sell ad space. That’s right, they are too busy advertising to air the national anthem, but God forbid a player not stand for the anthem.

    More than a few sportsball talking heads are saying they don’t think it’s about his talent. Some of them are people that Joe white guy would actually listen to. Gotta say I really didn’t like him much before. Seemed like a cocky douche(I guess being an NFL quarterback in a super bowl might have had something to do with being cocky right?). I heard this and I figured it was a different guy. I’m not as invested in this as most, but I definitely respect his resolve. I also have a lot to say for someone not invested in it.

    • andyk304

      It used to be the case that you rarely saw the anthem on tv- iirc, it was only part of the broadcast during the Super Bowl and the games played on or the week before Veteran’s Day- but that changed a few years ago when the Pentagon started doing flyovers at so damned many regular season games.

      And it isn’t about his talent. He’s better when running the ball than when dropping back in the pocket, like a traditional QB, and that scares a lot of teams off because it’s hard to build an offense around a running QB (because then his replacements have to be good runners as well as passers, too, which is a rare combo), and because you can’t afford to pay a QB what the position usually pays if he’s injured all the time from running the ball like a running back. That said, those are not horrible problems.

      San Francisco’s woes can’t be pinned on Kaepernick. They’ve got shitty ownership and a shitty general manager who chased off a great head coach and more than a few outstanding players who weren’t replaced with players or coaches of equal quality. Kaepernick isn’t to blame for that, and the Niners’ front office people are dicks for not appreciating his loyalty for not fleeing the sinking ship they own.

  • hvdv

    Ugh, “American football” sucks hard. From this immigrant’s perspective, the shit’s unwatchable. Wake me up when the All Black play *real* rugby, thanks. But more than anything, the NFL is a terrible employer. They’ll happily let very young men do awful stuff, not caring about their well-being one bit. But a rather modest political awareness is beyond the pale. Why is this even a thing?

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      All Blacks are totally Badass!

      https://youtu.be/AK3ZZvVUZjI

      • hvdv

        The haka brought me there, the game made me stay. Rawwrrr.

      • hvdv

        Fine, and the thighs.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        Reminds me of a story of another Maori, Dame Kiri Te Kanawa the famed soprano. When asked if she felt there were any rivalries with other sopranos, she said, “No, I’m a Maori, we eat our rivals.”

        • little miss high and mighty

          Please we shure loves us some Kiri T. Whither this fabulouso quote? Which interview?
          We just saw Peter Sellar’s new (this year’s Salzbrger fest)’s Clamenza del Tito (sp?) Genius casting Antonio, a black Mezzo, Title role to a US Black ditto the Joint staff chief Off. and 2 other female role, Asians, and ,most noteably, the chorus was indistinguishable from the many current refugee melting tent formations hereabouts (Cen.€U) . They mad Senso(Mezzo) (sp) be a suicide terrorist.
          Mozart for the 21st century. I think it is already online or something. We do not think Kiri sang in it, but dang well sould have!
          Pleaase tell us the interview with the canibal disclosure of the great, personable Diva.

          • little miss high and mighty

            ps we saw clemenza on ARTE- not live so I think start on ARTE (t.v France) and follow their links.
            Truly worth the effort. very origional Tito!

    • ginos_way

      Still want to see these folks play, live if possible. I’ve stopped watching American football and have been going to college rugby matches. Saw a team from British Columbia last year and it pretty well sliced and diced the reigning American college Varsity Cup champs, UC Berkeley. Real speed, amazing technique. People around me in the stands told me the All Blacks would make BC look like they were standing still.

      • foreign agitator Captain Kraut

        I hear you.
        An English buddy started a rugby team at our German university in the mid-nineties.
        I was all fun and games until they hosted their first tournament and played a team from the British Army of the Rhine.

        It was men versus boys. Nobody actually got hurt and a good time was had by all once we managed to show our prowess in another sport, alcohol abuse, in which the student lot of us simply had more training than the squaddies, but it was an impressive drubbing.

        • little miss high and mighty

          so what was the final there?

  • Blender_415

    Thanks, Evan! This is why I adore anytime a sports thing pops up. It’s not just that people are angry that this is happening, they’re giving very compelling examples and statistics showing why the current QB on their home team sucks so much more than Kaepernick ever could. Just thought I’d point out that you all a lot of fun.

  • SeeTrain65

    And now I’ll review in my mind all those many reasons I left sports writing. …

    This is going to take a while. Talk amongst yourselves. There’s potato salad in the frig if you’re hungry.

  • everstar

    I am reminded that a book by Dr. Bennet Omalu about his discovery of chronic traumatic encephalopathy has just come out. I love the title; it’s called Truth Doesn’t Have a Side: My Alarming Discovery About the Danger of Contact Sports.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      I’m convinced oj Simpson has cte and that caused him to commit murder.

  • Jukesgrrl

    Someone should tell Colin Kaepernick that old adage, “Clothes make the man.” I definitely support his cause and his presence in the NFL but he’s not going to change the minds of the general public who aren’t already liberal with this look of his. I’m not saying he needs to wear a suit and tie but seriously his appearance seems designed to telegraph a “fuck you” to the entire universe. It makes him look belligerent, of questionable taste, and, honestly, like he must smell bad. Way to influence people, Kap.

    • MasRioBravoHombre

      I never played, but have loved the game since childhood. I wouldn’t want my 3 nephews to play…I’m torn, and sick every time someone in the college or pro game suffers a shot to the head. I think often of the old Steelers o-lineman who drove purposely into a 18 wheeler going the wrong way….I don’t see how football can last, or for how long.

      • Permit-holder Ron

        It’ll last as long as Middle America keeps tying its identity to whatever the local team is. I’ve been seeing these stories going back decades, and if anything it’s WORSE now.

    • MasRioBravoHombre

      Sorry…my reply was stonedly misplaced…should have been to the post above you.

    • Someone told Louis CK that. He used to appear in a black t shirt and jeans.

      Now he wears a suit.

      Is Louis CK funnier in a suit than looking “disrespected to his audience”?

      No.

      No, he’s not. Is he more popular? Probably. 😀

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Please tell me this is snark. Because if it’s not…..

  • ginos_way

    Two of Kaepernick’s SF teammates quit the game younger than he is right now because they’d like to be able to reach their 50s and 60s w/o 24-hour care and estrangement from their families due to CTE. He’s had a better run than many, seems like a pretty insightful guy, and might want to consider getting out while he’s still got most of his faculties. Even if he does come back, he’ll be in for harder licks than he might otherwise be because of his politics, which I admire the fuck out of. Football is dumbball. It kills people slowly. After over 40 years of watching the game, during which I played it for seven years, including at college level, I just can’t justify it anymore. I was mediocre at best but had a rare good day when I could pop people. Luckily, the damage is all in my spine and extremities. I’d like to see him run for NFLPA president and try to turn that piece of crap excuse for a union into something that actually represents players’ interests instead of a yellow-dog company union that time and again does the owners’ bidding and screws over older, disabled players.

  • MasRioBravoHombre

    Strange. Cons are doubleplus-poutraged about a football player’s display of free speech and protest, but they seem determined to make any excuse possible for Nazis, Fascists, white supremacists and the KKKwho threaten others with weapons, chant Nazi slogans and kill one and wound 19 in a terrorist attack.

    • It’s almost as if their reasoning were motivated by another more hidden secret agenda instead of a consistent application of principles to a wide variety of situations.

      • Permit-holder Ron

        But what could that agenda possibly be? I’m stumped.

  • Persistent Tennessee Rain

    It’s a good thing he never participated in anything awful like dog fighting. Then he’d never get a job. Oh wait…

    • mardam422

      He hasn’t beaten his wife or girlfriend either. So that’s two strikes…er…to use a baseball metaphor for football. Does that make me transsexual, or something?

      • AJ Milne

        Transportual, I think?

  • Let’s face it, Colin Kaepernick is smart to distance himself from the brutal concussion ritual.

    Surely, medical doctors will put a stop to this in the next 20-30 years?

    Basically the NFL is calling damaging people’s brains a “sport”.
    https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/lancasteronline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/15/81518738-0cf7-5eab-9ff2-01e8093f5d5a/523b5cbab3f30.image.jpg

    • Permit-holder Ron

      Se also ‘World Boxing Association’ too.

      • TimResistit

        Also, too UFC. But at least they fight in spandex mini shorts …so I got that going for me.

  • geoffalnutt

    Please. It’s obviously Obama (bein’ sketchy).s/

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  • mardam422

    Come on. Seriously? He doesn’t have to be better than Tom Brady to get a job in the NFL. He only has to be better than Blake Bortles. And he is.

  • Connor

    UPDATE: Blake Bortles, Brandon Weeden still employed.

    • tfindian

      Please send Colin to Jax, we need him

  • Stulexington
    • Gussie Jives

      Every sports interview ever.

      “Yeah, we really gave it our all and we had good hustle, but they had good hustle too and we’ll try to get ’em in the next game….”

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        You forgot “we just wanted it more” from the winning team.

    • everstar
  • WhoCheckedRussia’sVoterID

    Colin can come up the CFL anytime! We’ll have him! The Blue Bombers can use him! He’ll have to learn the Canadian game (three downs, bigger field, more injuries) and make about a 10th of what he could get in the NFL…but there is a job if he wants.

    • goingohm

      Hang on a sec! Let’s see what Dieter Brock’s doing.

      • WhoCheckedRussia’sVoterID

        Ah…Dieter. We are 7 and 2 now so we doon ok. But Dieter could git ‘er dun…

    • Gussie Jives

      My thoughts as well. The Argos have Ricky Ray, but at 37, he’s getting up there.

      • WhoCheckedRussia’sVoterID

        That is what Toronto needs. Oh man, if Colin went to the Argos that would be huge for the CFL. Unfortunately, without some big time marquis player, football is dead in TO.

    • phoenix00

      Don’t the BBs have enough offence? The Ticats. Now THEY could use a QB!

      • WhoCheckedRussia’sVoterID

        Ticats need more than a QB…and we do have some good offence this year.

  • Alan

    There’s no conspiracy to blackball anyone. A) He’s mediocre at best and anyone paying him is going to pay him because they believe it will make their team better. It’s not clear that would happen anywhere. B) Football is business and it depends on its fans. If executives fear that they will annoy their fans and make less money they will not hire him. I doubt most of them actually care about his politics or personal life but they do care what their money paying fans think about his politics or personal life.

    • Akat

      Did you read this article at all?

      • Alan

        Ayup. Why would you ask that?

        • Last Hussar

          Dunno, possibly all the quotes about how statistically he’s a good Qb.

          Just a guess.

          • norcalOG

            Good is subjective. He’s probably as good as many backups, a few starters. Probably.
            Over the course of his career–college and pro–consistency has not been his strong point. He tends toward the erratic but will recover by doing well…until he’s erratic again.
            Part of his problem, of course, has been 49er organizational nitwitery, but he’s also responsible for digging a hole beneath his kneeling knee (pigs on socks, et. Al.)

          • Alan

            Maybe you don’t know a lot about football but, statistically, he’s at best mediocre and some would say bad. Last in the league in pass attempts, first in sacks as a percentage of attempts, last in yards per attempt, yards per completion, touchdown passes, etc. The list goes on. After five years they have a pretty good notion of how good he is and it’s not very good. Everything is not a political conspiracy but almost everything is about money. I would also note that he opted out of his last contract which would have paid him a shit ton of money. To quit your job that you weren’t very good at and then complain that nobody will hire you to perform the same job seems rather odd to me.

  • William

    Cheeto Hitler says America is not great, becomes president. Colin Kaepernick says America is not great, gets to be unemployed. That is pretty much the definition of white privilege. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0425645a80368eade9402191e5b0333fe533324a255b1de28a563371e87bff23.png .

    • phoenix00

      “Good Americans exercising their free-market rights!” – Anheuser-Busch Inbev

  • William

    America, where people are paid millions give each other concussions and are worshiped as heroes. Teachers and EMT’s are paid as little as possible for guiding children and saving lives. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/47257ea9a1ae5b5eff6b72a0d67b21622c37aa5b8f91741746d4ffbacfd5bed6.jpg

    • phoenix00

      Priorities.

  • Truthiness2U

    I’ll admit that I find it kinda hard to get super behind Colin, when I know he was talking shit about Hillary last year, and more than once. He was basically in the “lock her up!” but from the Left side of that. That she was guilty of something emails!!1! something emails!1! and if she wasn’t white/rich, she would have been charged as the criminal she clearly was. Both sides are the same!’ when the other side was Donald Fucking Trump.

    So there’s that getting in my way of being behind Colin, beyond the general way. He was part of the problem some of the Left had by falling for all the Right-Wing bullshit, and bothersiderism that ultimately cost us the last election by killing our margins by just enough in three states. And that problem still exists with parts of the Left, which is even worse after how demonstrably bad Shit-Gibbon has been in general, but especially to women, POC, WOC, LGBT people.

    But if someone wants to ask Colin if he REALLY think that Hillary would be as bad as Shit-Gibbon has been, or if maybe he has changed his mind? and given that he’s putting his money where his mouth is, I might be more rah rah! for him beyond caring about his situation in a general way.

    But I’ll bet that if asked if he still really thought there was no difference between Hillary and Shit-Gibbon even now, he would say there wasn’t.

    Of course there are much worse people in the NFL who are getting much better treatment, starting with all the rich, mostly white owners/management, and down to ignoring all those that abuse of women/children who aren’t shunned for it. So sure, relative to that? Colin deserves a fairer shake. In the grander scheme of things? eh.

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