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Instead of ‘We’ll Meet Again’ it’ll be ‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’

James Clapper, Barack Obama’s Director of National Intelligence for seven years, finds Donald Trump’s shouty maniac routine just as unsettling as you do, and after Trump’s yelling fit in Phoenix Tuesday, Clapper said he’s really not comfortable with Trump having the ability to launch nuclear weapons any time he wants to.

“Having some understanding of the levers that a president can exercise, I worry about, frankly, the access to the nuclear codes,” Clapper told CNN, pointing to the current stand-off with North Korea.

If “in a fit of pique he decides to do something about Kim Jong-un, there’s actually very little to stop him. The whole system is built to ensure rapid response if necessary. So there’s very little in the way of controls over exercising a nuclear option, which is pretty damn scary.”

The Guardian reminds us that in 1969, a drunk Richard Nixon reportedly wanted to launch a nuclear attack against North Korea after they shot down a U.S. spy plane, according to former CIA official George Carver, as quoted in a Nixon biography:

Nixon became incensed and ordered a tactical nuclear strike… The Joint Chiefs were alerted and asked to recommend targets, but Kissinger got on the phone to them. They agreed not to do anything until Nixon sobered up in the morning.

Donald Trump is at least a teetotaler (HE SAYS). But he’s also far ragier than Nixon, so that’s of little comfort. We can at least hope the alleged adults in Trump’s circle, John Kelly, H.R. McMaster, and James Mattis, have had a word with the Joint Chiefs about what to do if Trump goes more than his normal amount of insane.

Clapper had a good bit more to say on the matter, too:

“I don’t know when I’ve listened and watched something like this from a president that I found more disturbing,” he said. “Having some understanding of the levers of power that are available to a president if he chooses to exercise them, I found this downright scary and disturbing.”

We also find it scary and disturbing that we’re not more terrified of what Trump might do in the middle of a good fiery rage. Shouldn’t we be digging a hole in the backyard or something?

Clapper, having had a night to toss and turn while thinking about Trump staring longingly at “the biscuit” that gives him access to the nuclear “football,” continued his worries in a conversation with CNN’s Don Lemon this morning:

I really question his ability to be — his fitness to be — in this office […] I also am beginning to wonder about his motivation for it — maybe he is looking for a way out.

We would like to remind the president that resignation might be a tad embarrassing, but he could very easily blame Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton for it anyway, and then get back to his important life’s work of driving businesses into bankruptcy. It’s better than taking the rest of the country with him.

The Guardian notes that once a president has used the appropriate codes to verify his identity, the nuclear command structure, designed to allow a quick response to an incoming nuclear attack from an enemy, offers the military no formal powers to refuse a nuclear launch order. The people who designed the system assumed it would never be run by a guy with no emotional fail-safes.

California Democratic congressman Ted Lieu, who along with Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts is co-sponsoring a bill that would require Congress to declare war before a president could launch a nuclear first strike, Tweeted in response to Clapper’s comments that maybe this would be a good time to have a good talk about nuclear command and control:

President Trump has moved on to Nevada today, where aides reportedly had to restrain him after he demanded to be taken to a nuclear test site “to see if the radiation gives me super powers.”

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  • Msgr_MΩment

    The Guardian reminds us that in 1969, a drunk Richard Nixon reportedly wanted to launch a nuclear attack against North Korea after they shot down a U.S. spy plane

    Today in alternative-history news: read all about the surprise new twist as Nixon and his advisers negotiate the Cuban Missile Crisis.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
  • Michael R

    Valerie Plame Wilson has a GoFundMe page dedicated to purchasing Twitter so she can stop Trump from tweeting , they need over a billion dollars .

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/cia-operative-valerie-plame-is-desperate-to-buy-twitter-so-she-can-ban-trump/

    • Red Bird

      bqWhatever.

  • Moebym of the Returners

    I recall someone had warned us about how Trump can’t be trusted with the nuclear codes if he can be baited with a Tweet. I wonder what happened to that person…

    /s

    • Permit-holder Ron

      I think I remember that too. Who said it? Some woman, I think?

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Jinx

        • Permit-holder Ron

          Damn, now I owe you a Coke.

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            Take heart. I only drink straight vodka these days.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Who was that? Some lady, no doubt.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Was it in an email?

    • NastyBossetti

      Sounds like someone who was flawed…

    • Edith Prickly

      A doer of Benghazis?

    • Moar Wordz

      RIP

  • Jgb979

    He may be a teatottler but he also huffs trucker meth pretty much 24/7

    • Three Finger Salute

      The kids today call it “Ritalin”…

  • Shibusa

    So, two atoms are walking down the street one day.
    The first atom says, “I think I an electron.”
    The second atom says, “Are you positive?”

  • “President Trump has moved on to Nevada today, where aides reportedly had to restrain him after he demanded to be taken to a nuclear test site “to see if the radiation gives me super powers.””

    With the meta eclipse of the Onion the other day, I’m not sure if this is just satire or something he actually said.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
  • Oblios_Cap

    Donald Trump is at least a teetotaler

    Another reason not to trust that cokehead.

  • arglebargle
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    A little reminder (mind the auto-play link):

    Donald Trump asked a foreign policy expert advising him why the U.S. can’t use nuclear weapons, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough said on the air Wednesday, citing an unnamed source who claimed he had spoken with the GOP presidential nominee.

    “Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can’t we use them,” Scarborough said on his “Morning Joe” program.

    I’d start drinking again, if I thought it would help…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0682a3e615bab011690b6e31478bf3aa73da67cebbee1d85fc52ab238e44df8.jpg

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      Alcohol isn’t doing the job any more. Going over to a friend’s place tonight to indulge in some hallucinogens.

      • Jonny On Maui

        I’d do that too if I thought I could tell the difference…

      • Permit-holder Ron

        Perhaps they’ll cancel out the hallucination we’ve been having since November.

        • Bub, the cynical zombie

          It didn’t work the last time – but hope springs eternal.

    • Red Bird

      At this point I wish he would.

    • Three Finger Salute

      He said during the campaign that he wanted to nuke Europe as a final solution to the Muslim problem.

  • Me not sure

    It is some relief that one has to enter the launch codes correctly.

    • Oblios_Cap

      His fingers might be to small and powerless to punch the buttons hard enough.

      • Me not sure

        The tweet misspellings alone are cause for hope.

    • Permit-holder Ron

      ‘Hey, Jared, come here a minute. How do you spell “purity of essence”?’

      • Me not sure

        You said “feed me, Jared”, and I did.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      They should make the code LBGTQ. We know he can’t remember that.

      • Three Finger Salute

        “GQ BLT”

        Because he only thinks about magazine covers and food.

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    Well, at least we don’t have to wake up each morning with dread in our hearts, afraid a woman in charge might send an email.

    • Wild Cat

      They’re fucking with DeBlasio in NYC over emails now. He should tell the yellow press to shove it up their rectums.

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    • OutOfOrbit

      a pole question that not yet asked: would prefer hrc to have won?

  • jesterpunk
  • MynameisBlarney

    “I have no more patience for dermp supporters”

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a57164/trump-arizona-speech/

    You and me both, Charlie.

    • Permit-holder Ron

      That’s Olbermann-level angry, that is.
      Plus, loved the little call-out to Tommy at the end there.

      • Persistent Tennessee Rain

        I wish a certain someone would become aware this year, but I’m afraid that’s not going to happen.

    • Claire

      My “liberal” friends who were falling all over themselves to make the economic anxiety excuse for their family members have gotten awfully quiet lately.

      Okay, that could be because I unfollowed all of them on Facebook.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    I also am beginning to wonder about his motivation for it — maybe he is looking for a way out.

    Yo, Donald?

    https://i1.wp.com/38.media.tumblr.com/22290b0571efcd7ffbc70a02cec9d349/tumblr_nflz06mcWJ1ql5yr7o1_500.gif

  • Jonny On Maui

    The crazy one already has a super power. The ability to fuck up everything within his field of vision.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      If I may be so presumptuous:

      “The crazy one already has a super power. The ability to fuck up everything within his field of vision.

      FIFY

      • Jonny On Maui

        Thank you!

    • He’d be just like Midas if everything Midas touched went to shit.

      • Bobathonic

        I used to say that about Bush the Stupider. I apparently have a shit imagination.

  • jesterpunk
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    President Trump has moved on to Nevada today

    Looking forward to phone banking Silver State residents again already!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/95477a6f04ee1608fdd3c101d3a3b2a6937aa776f3101ffc70374788f25805bb.png

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Don’t blame me. I voted for Santorum.

    • arglebargle
      • P’jama Pahnts

        That is confusing as hell. The red states refused the payouts, now they’re bitching about blue states getting “all the money”? What the fucking fuck?

        • Marion in Savannah

          You expected some sort of consistency? Gosh, but you’re cute.

        • arglebargle

          That’s Santorum logic for you.

        • Oblios_Cap

          Well, the blue states pay most of the taxes, so fairness!

        • Claire

          It’s part and parcel of that whole thing where red staters and rural Republicans think they’re supporting the entire country with the heroic sweat of their brows brought on by playing World of Warcraft all day and collecting their disability checks.

      • SpideySenser

        What an asshole. And quoting Churchill totally out of context. Bet the rubes’ll fall for this bigly.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Coffee Spewed on the Keyboard Award

  • blaid droog

    45 and his entire cabinet should be taken to a nuclear test site and be positioned at ground zero. I’ll bet mcconnell would love to be the person pushing the launch button.

    • Mildred Broxon

      Hey, we’ve got one in New Mexico, the Trinity Site. It’s already glassy and everything. Shiny!

  • NotDarkYet
    • Red Bird

      nice shoe

      • NotDarkYet

        Only in theory; last time I wore something half that high, I took the most ungraceful tumble off a curb and face-planted into the parking lot, missing the bumper of my car by inches. Learned that lesson, started wearing sensible shoes.

        • Maggielle

          I wouldn’t even be able to walk to my front door in extreme lady shoes. I’d be all “help I’ve fallen and I can’t get up” right near the closet door.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Well…that’s a strange fetish.

      • NotDarkYet

        Well, you know … cats … strange is our middle name! LOL

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      If the shoe fits…
      I sits.

    • Creepoman

      Huh. I never knew shoes eat cats. Live and learn.

    • SpideySenser

      OMG I want a pair of those … shoes. I am due for a new cat, though. Waiting for kitchen project to get done first.

      • Mildred Broxon

        But if you get a cat now it can help you remodel. Snork!

        • SpideySenser

          So true! My last cat was quite decorative when it came to placement of hurled up fur balls. He died June 2016. He was purrfect and I miss him terribly.

  • BadKitty904

    James Clapper is an American, versus a Republican.

  • Snark Tank Full of Resistance
    • I’d volunteer just to try to prevent it.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    More as a slight reasurance to specific American localities than the whole human race, so long as Trump raginess is focused on North Korea rather than his pals and creditors in Russia, the actual obliteration of more than one or two American cities is pretty remote…

  • BadKitty904
    • Red Bird

      Sure. But did you worry about black people getting into the college you wanted to get into?

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Even worse, worry about black people getting into a college that Asian people wanted to get into. THE HORROR!!!1111!!111 #economicanxiety

        • Red Bird

          Yeah. And here I thought Asian people were the ones getting all the spots in the good universities. I guess if they want to jump on the bandwagon.

    • BigCSouthside

      Come to think of it…I didn’t really “worry” about much of anything.

      • BadKitty904

        If the Traitor makes the wrong mistake, none of us will.

  • UncleTravelingMatt
    • She should be. He’s teetering at the edge of calling for his brownshirts to go forth and beat or kill journalists.

      • jesterpunk

        The NRA took care of that for him.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Telling that a news person like her didn’t watch it…

      • OutOfOrbit

        mebbe like me, she cannut stand the sound of his voice. had same prob with Shrub

        • Beanz&Berryz

          I can only take-in his wordz through Wonkette summarizations…

        • NotDarkYet

          It’s not just the voice; it’s also those tiny hand gestures.

          Even my mom who is loathe to talk bad about anybody told me yesterday that she start swearing at the teevee when Trump comes on and does “his hand stuff” … she added “his hands ARE kinda small, no?”

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Good snarky mom needs to know about http://www.wonkette.com

          • NotDarkYet

            Alas, she is German, and only has the most divine German snarck.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Imagine the color of snarcks passing through Google translate coming and going…

          • NotDarkYet

            It contains very very long nounnounnoun constructions, and you have to be careful to assign the correct gender to that construction so that the verb also agrees with that mountain of words. ;)

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Gender mixing and confusion are ok here.

          • NotDarkYet

            YOU all (and me, too, since it’s rubbed off now) are o.k. with it, but damn, my mom, at 89, out grammar-nazis the worst stick-wielding nun ….

      • Permit-holder Ron

        I had to read it too, because I couldn’t believe my own ears when I heard it.

    • georgiaburning

      For many of us, that started on Nov 9th 2016

      • MynameisBlarney

        Yup

      • ahughes798

        I think the “normalising” of crazy started the moment he declared his candidacy.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Ok, I’mma say this shit now…
      If all y’all MSM fuckers hadn’t fucking normalized turmps fucking insane nazi saber rattling, WE MIGHT NOT BE AT THIS POINT TODAY!!!

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        twittered this at her. h/t

        • MynameisBlarney

          Really? Cool!
          Did she respond?

          • House0fTheBlueLights

            Nah, no one ever responds to me. I don’t rate.

      • Claire

        Jesus, right? And they’re just getting pissy and defensive over the Harvard study that made that clear. Sorry, Courics of the world, you failed your job and failed your country, don’t come crying to us about how terrible Trump is now.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Shut the fuck up, b1nt. You are part of the problem.

  • I would like to believe that Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, and Mitch the Turtle would finally invoke Amendment 25 and remove the President* from power should he do something like order a nuclear war.

    I would also like to believe that I will find a winning ticket tonight to the 700,000,000 dollar Powerball, so I could move to an underground bunker in Canada for the next few years.

    • Crystalclear12

      Good luck!

    • Joe Beese

      Sorry to spoil your hopes. I am the one winning the Powerball tonight.

      • CindyinEncinitas

        I’m winning it and I’m going to buy a DUNE BUGGY.

        • Steve Cole

          And move to Carlsbad

          • CindyinEncinitas

            NEVAH!

        • ahughes798

          I’m gonna buy 50K acres and have my off the grid little ranch house right in the middle of it .Food-wise, it will be self sustainable. Cows, sheep and feral horses will be evicted.I will oversee the re-creation of it’s original habitat, if it has been destroyed. I’ll have a few guest houses that friends can live in/vacation in. I’ll start an educational program for sustainable ag/prairie, woodland and riparian restoration. It will be put in an irrevocable trust so it will always remain mostly wildland, with a small area set aside to raise food. Then I’m gonna carve a racetrack out of a small area, and buy a ’60’s F1 car and learn how to drive it. That’s my dream, anyway.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Dibs on one of the guest houses. Call me…

          • ahughes798

            For sure!

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        Actually, I will win. I didn’t get a ticket. My odds of winning are pretty much the same whether I have a ticket or not so I’m not wasting the money. I am going to win though!

        • Joe Beese

          It’s true; you need to get very very very lucky to win.

          But you only need to get that lucky once.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Canadians live in nuclear-proof FEMA igloos anyway don’t they? Unless Harper ordered them all torn down and replaced with oil refineries and catnip pubs for his 500 cats. Maybe that’s why Jimmy Carter was up there…

  • Anna Rompage

    Here’s something interesting, the launch codes are actually referred to as the “Gold Codes” that are printed on a credit card like item called “The Biscuit”, and each day the President is given a new biscuit with new codes on it.

    I don;t know about you, but I’m wondering with the names, gold & biscuit, if Donad might try to cover it in KFC gravy & eat the thing, give it to Melenia to go on a shopping spree with, or if he’s tiling his Trump Tower pent house with 8′ ceilings with the discarded biscuits..

    On a side note, the one saving grace we might have is “For an extra level of security, the list of codes on the card includes codes that have no meaning, and therefore the president must memorize where on the list the correct code is located” and seeing that DInad has not attention span, perhaps he’ll forget which codes are real?

    • Permit-holder Ron

      I can see his eyes glazing over as soon as he sees the card isn’t really made of gold.

      • Bobathonic

        Bets he ordered that corrected?

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          So Trum can stash the expired cards under his mattress.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      I’m hoping the code is at least 141 characters. You know he can’t think thoughts longer than tweets.

    • jesterpunk

      Can we just hide Rick please? Put him in a secure underground bunker far away from Trump.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Melonoma wouldn’t stoop so low as to use a Gold card! Horrors! It’s a Black Diamond Card or nothing, dah-link.

    • BigCSouthside

      So basically what I’m hearing is you could hand him a different expired Amex gold card every day and he wouldn’t know the difference.

      • Mildred Broxon

        Maybe that’s what they are doing. One may hope.

    • Thiazin Red

      His attention span and inability to remember basic things make this more comforting.

  • BadKitty904

    Just a reminder of what Trump can do:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkaWbiVp-io

    • Oblios_Cap

      And the living would envy the dead.

      • BadKitty904

        Ashes, ashes, we all fall down…

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          Trump and his supporters are a plague all right.

          • BadKitty904

            They’re far, FAR worse…

  • Crystalclear12

    Anyone else think this is why John Kelly stays?

    • OutOfOrbit

      you think he’s got the hoots paw to physically restrain that OPOS?

      • Crystalclear12

        Pretty sure he looking forward to it.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I don’t. I think Kelly and McMaster and Mattis stay for the same reason retired generals always stay around government — to steer appropriations to their buddies.

      • SpideySenser

        Military Industrial Complex LIBELZZZZ!!!!11!leventymillions!

  • JMP

    Look, Donald Trump doesn’t drink, he’s only addicted to cocaine, which is a much milder drug so we don’t have to worry about his mood swings leading to dangerous decision making while high.

    • Hardly Ideal

      I remember hearing that he only gets about four hours of sleep a night, and that kind of chronic sleep-deprivations leaves you effectively drunk.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        I would not be surprised of Trump had sleep apnea as well. Lack of oxygen is making what goes for Trump’s brain shrink away into a little turd.

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          Just looking at him, you know he’s got sleep apnea bigly.

    • CindyinEncinitas
    • natoslug

      Thank dogs he’s not one of those reefer addicts. Imagine how unstable he’d be if he were injecting marijuana all day and working himself into a frenzy with jazz music.

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      If only cocaine’s cardiotoxic effects would take hold (with votes).

    • HarpyLibtart

      I thought it was speed – sorry, ‘diet pills’?

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    So apparently Donnie Two Scoops got through his speech today without soiling himself, demanding the heads of his enemies brought before him, or challenging one of the American Legion veterans to a fist fight. I’m sure this will lead to many comments from the chattering class that he is trying to “pivot” again.

    • jesterpunk

      I really cant tell if that really happened or not.

    • Nockular cavity

      He’s pivoting like the main rotor of a helicopter.

  • Marion in Savannah
    • BigCSouthside

      Much more eloquent than I could have put it

      Mine basically would have been:
      “you’re all ignorant pieces of shit. Fuck you, and I hope you and your entire family suffers for generations because of this.

      THE END”

    • SadDemInTex

      Excellent

    • GunToting[Redacted]

      At this stage I am 100% convinced that one of Trimp’s unhinged followers will inevitably kill a journalist. Like, not pretty sure it will happen; pretty much guaranteed that it will happen. Trimp’s been doing his Henry II “meddlesome priest” routine with the media for over a year.

      • Three Finger Salute

        History has a way of repeating itself. One of his unhinged followers already killed 6 Muslims in another fucking country. Another killed a “liberal race traitor” as the Nazi forums are calling that poor girl. Two more savagely beat a homeless man from Mexico to within an inch of his life — and this was early on in the campaign.

        The rest of the enemies in his Niemoller list can’t be too far off.

  • Mavenmaven

    If he’s in Nevada they should take him back home to area 51 and leave him there.

    • efoveks

      And launch him back into space? I could get behind that. ;)

    • Yellerduck

      He and Kennedy’s brain could play checkers. Or play with Checkers.

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        I wouldn’t trust him with Checkers the dog. He’d probably torture the poor thing.

    • Three Finger Salute

      I thought area 51 only housed intelligent life forms.

  • Fartknocker

    Is Trump speaking in Pahrump, home of Harry Reid? I’m sure Mr. Reid will give him a nice welcome party. Plus Trump sort of rhymes with Pahrump so I’m sure Cheeto Mousillini wit will be hillary-ar-eous.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

    “finds Donald Trump’s shouty maniac routine”

    I read that as “shouty mechanic” and was like, ‘what’s wonkette got against shouty mechanics. It gets loud in those garages!

    • Three Finger Salute

      Say it loud, say it clear. -Mike and his mechanics

      • laineypc

        You cannot shout away all your fear
        It’s too late, you can try
        But we’ll never believe all your lies

    • mailman27

      What?

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        WHAT?

  • Bub, the cynical zombie

    I keep thinking he can’t get any worse. I keep thinking it – in the face of all the evidence, in the face of we know of him, as a man who has spent most of his life in the public eye. And again and again, I see I was wrong. Again and again, he lowers the bar, again and again he shows that he can, indeed, get worse. He is already being called the worst President in American history, and I agree with that. I believe that he is, in fact, already the man who holds that title, after just over 7 months in office. In fact I don’t think it is even close.

    The difference between Trump and the other bad American presidents is that, on some level at least, I believe they understood the magnitude of the task they were facing, and the awesome responsibility it carried with it. They had some inkling of how government worked, of what the job entailed, about how much sheer hard work and drudgery would be required to discharge the duties of the office. Trump has none of that. He has no idea what to do, never mind how to do it. His absolute, blinkered pig-ignorance of every single aspect of what the presidency is, of what his powers are and what they are not, is obvious. His complete inability to appeal to people’s better natures, to express a vision for the future in a manner that inspires people, to recognize that those who disagree with him are also American citizens, that he must also work with them, and represent their interests, is constantly on display. He has no tools in his tool box but bitterness, paranoia, anger, resentment and the lust for vengeance. Anyone who crosses him – whether lawmaker, government official, journalist or ordinary citizen – is an opponent, to be derided, denigrated and ultimately, disregarded. Only those who bend their necks to him are acceptable. In his mind, those who oppose him are enemies – not just his enemies, but enemies of the United States. The idea that anyone will be able to control him, to somehow make him behave as a president instead of as a sugar fuelled toddler with a twitter account is ludicrous. He is, and will remain, beyond anyone’s control. He represents a clear and present danger to the safety and security of the United States of America, and indeed, the entire world, as long as he remains in office and has the fearsome responsibility of operational control of the planet’s most powerful nuclear arsenal.

    • pstockholm

      I still think his base is much more dangerous than he will ever be. In that they will elect an efficient authoritarian if given half a chance, instead of a clown.
      Pretty sure Trump will get 25-4ed in a second if he asks for the biscuit.
      Of course “pretty sure” is an alarming thing to say about that.

    • Three Finger Salute

      I still can’t believe Carter ranks as among the worst. Raygun stole his second term. Maybe it’s because Jimmy actually lives the Christian example and subtly shows up the megachurch Mammonite hypocrites for what they are.

      • Rags

        He pissed off Dems in congress by axing some pork barrel projects unilaterally, among other non-pol moves.

        • Moar Wordz

          What’s a pork barrel project ?

          • Rags

            Until recently, Congress critters could name a tasty project for their home district and it would be slid into the budget without review. These were pork barrel projects. Carter committed the unpardonable sin of evaluating them on their merits and unilaterally canceling some. ‘Son, I say, that’s not how we do thangs ’round here.’

          • Moar Wordz

            Thanks, Rags. I thought Congress was constantly wheelin’ and dealin’, case in point.

          • The Librarian

            Here’s an example: freeways to nowhere:
            http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/175694

    • yyyaz

      The real danger he poses to us as Americans was on full display last night in Phoenix. He is the living essence of a demagogue. He cares for nothing but the adoration of and obedience to himself. I watched his supporters on the streets for two hours last night, listened to a couple of them, and managed to restrain myself enough to merely insult only just a few. They are enablers: willing and active collaborators who, with the exception of the Kevlar and camo-clad nitwits toting assault rifles, appeared to be solidly middle class. There were as many PoC on their side as there were oldz like myself. I am still trying digest what the ramifications of this last observation means, but I fear there will not be many positive ones.

  • clubseal

    How is Congressional approval not already needed? Launching a nuclear strike against another country can’t possibly be considered anything but an act of war.
    Against basic humanity, I might add, but I’d probably be called a liberal communist fascist for such talk.

    • Courser_Resistance

      As an old, I can ‘splain you the dumbass logic.

      It was designed on the assumption that the Soviets would launch on us FIRST and there was no time to be spared to push the button to ensure total mutual destruction.

      Yes, I grew up with the nuclear threat hanging over my grade-school years. I survived that one so I’ve just got my fingers crossed. And remembering all the advice from back then. Which consisted mostly of, ‘Kiss Your Ass Goodbye’

      • clubseal

        And as our country has demonstrated countless times over the years, fear is the absolute best director of policy.

      • weighmaster

        Crouch under your little wooden desk, LOLOLOL

        • Courser_Resistance

          No, we had to go out into the halls and crouch against the walls. As a child I just hoped the wall crushed me quit. And I hadn’t even read/seen any post-apocalyptic scenarios back then. Now? I’m even more sure I want to go quick.

          • weighmaster

            We did that during hurricanes.

        • proudgrampa
      • I once had to explain to someone who was saying a nuclear war wouldn’t affect our area that … there was a SAC base not more than 30 miles away. Which would make our nice rural area a prime target.

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          I’m convinced all the BS they told us about nuclear war being survivable, if we either ducked and covered or made it to some fallout shelter, is responsible for the “Never trust anyone over 30” meme. We all knew they were lying through their teeth or delusional as fuck.

      • george lastrapes

        MAD- mutually assured destruction- can only be said to have worked if it is never tested. It assumes that the fingers on the buttons are attached to rational beings, of course.

        • bbayliss

          It was tested for forty years.

          • george lastrapes

            I meant battle-tested, of course, and thank God that didn’t happen. Much as I hate to say it, MAD probably worked- arguably, they were deterred, we were deterred: the Mexican stand-off on a global scale. WWIII hasn’t happened. Now if only we can all put our weapons aside.
            MAD has been the strategy for nearly 60 years, I estimate. I was a middle-schooler at the time when the Soviets were conducting many N-tests, with the goal of achieving parity with the US. Then came the Cuban missile crisis. Those were anxious times. Much raw material for nightmares.

    • proudgrampa

      It was all about Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). It would take too long to declare war and then launch if we were already under Soviet missile attack.

  • andyshelt
    • Don’t forget, she also did not /earn/ the precious votes because she did not admit she took corporate donations.
      Goal posts, they have a weird way of movin around

  • Courser_Resistance

    I have no backyard to dig in. Hmmm.

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      I’m hoping a nuclear bomb heads for me.

    • DrBigHead

      The house I grew up in was built in 1960. A sub-basement bomb shelter was thrown in at no additional charge. Over time it became a convenient place to put things you no longer used but could not bring yourself to discard.

  • AndyC316

    And once again I’m in the streets screaming, ‘Mueller, hurry the fuck up!!’ at the top of my voice

  • StlSaxist

    For all intents and purposes, it doesn’t matter what Trump wants.

    Until he bases his rantings on reality, not much will become of his presidency.

    Certainly, that’s possible, but if I were a betting man, I would not wager on that to happen.

    Kind of like betting on snow in in Kentucky, in the middle of August, don’t you think?

    Tantalizing as the idea might be, it just isn’t going to happen.

    Reality is, unfortunately, reality. The dream world in Trump’s head doesn’t exist.

    Until #45 come to grip with that, there isn’t much hope.

    Much as I hate to believe it, as far as advancing any kind of agenda (liberal or conservative) is dratted near impossible.

    Potentially some bare-bones legislation might get through (like a debt ceiling increase and at least a continuing resolution for the budget), but that’s about all.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Just don’t tell him what’s in the bill he’s signing. He doesn’t give a shit, so long as he can sign it in front of TV cameras and proclaim a “win”.

  • spangled

    wait, i’ve never heard that nixxon anecdote before.

    you’re telling me kissinger DIDN’T want to bomb some place in asia? That doesn’t seem accurate.

    • JustDon’tSayDignity

      Not with big bombs. The littler ones, that you can drop over and over and over, sure.

  • catnmus

    The “quick strike” capability was probably a good idea in the days before cellphones were so ubiquitous that they’re in the hands of 10-year-olds in addition to unstable billionaires. Even a phone tree probably wouldn’t have been able to contact enough congresscritters in enough time to make a formal declaration of war. Now they could just download an app from the app store.

  • Ryan Denniston

    Seriously, why is it always You Can’t Always Get What You Want? Is he trolling the GOP? It makes no sense to play at a rally!

    • proudgrampa

      I’m kinda surprised the Stones let him play it…

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        As if he would think to ask.

      • NellCote71

        I thought they protested during the campaign. I wonder if the song is stopped before it creeps into copyright violation.

  • whitroth

    He may be a teetotaler. But about the drugs his “doctor” prescribes, and who’s buying his coke for him?

  • Peter Walford

    Good journalism and thank you for it.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    I thought the Defcon system was supposed to work against something like this. But, I guess not.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “You heard me, stop trying to interrupt, just do it. Nuke South Korea immediately!”
    — Donald Trump

    • PixieThis

      “Smithers! Have the Rolling Stones killed!”
      “But, sir….”
      “I said do it!!”

    • Doug Langley

      “I order you to nuke North Dakota this instant!!”
      “Er, don’t you mean North Korea?”
      “I said NOW!!! What?”

  • ken_kukec

    God, I hated Richard Nixon, but I’d take Nixon in his cups over Trump on a raging dry-drunk any day of the week.

    • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

      Who thought we’d ever long for George W?

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Or George III for that matter.

        • yyyaz

          George Leroy Tirebiter even.

          • mailman27

            Personally, I have my doubts. But I understand he is a girl delighter, so…

          • Phried Ω

            Even Porgy Tirebiter.

      • NellCote71

        Or Boy George.

      • HarpyLibtart

        Just yesterday I was thinking that in hindsight, poor boring old Jeb! was starting to look pretty good…
        Dude couldn’t even get people to clap for him, no way he would have been able to repeal the ACA.
        And he may not have been the brightest branch on the Bush, but I’m pretty sure he’s not dumb enough to stare directly at an eclipse.

    • yyyaz

      First time ever for me to upfist a “Nixon would be better” non-comment. The world may end tomorrow.

      • NellCote71

        I am waiting for the Cheney-would-be-better argument. End times, indeed.

    • Mildred Broxon

      Oh, yes. Never thought I’d agree, but yes.

  • laineypc

    His handlers should totally leverage the fact that he can’t follow basic instructions, like how to look at an eclipse. “Yes, Mr. President, clockwise is lefty-loosie, three times around. What? It didn’t work? OK try again, nice and slow.” OK I have no idea how the nuclear codes are entered. I am picturing a combination lock.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    I’m not sure Trump would want to ignite a nuclear exchange that incinerates tens of millions. His approval rating might drop — to maybe 30% of Americans who “approve”.

    • TootsStansbury

      The evil, librul MSN might tsk tsk. The rest will call him Finally President.

    • Claire

      He doesn’t understand the consequences of initiating a nuclear exchange. He’s too goddamned stupid. All he understands is “Nukes make boom! Booms is manly! People who made fun of me gonna hurt!”

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Trump loves himself far too much to risk getting killed.

  • Deborah Ujevich

    Astounding that no one worried about broad presidential powers under the Kenyan usurper. I honestly cannot think of a WORSE steward of our military than this ridiculous man who has far less impulse control than your average toddler.

  • Deborah Ujevich

    Aw heck. In case it wasn’t clear, I was being facetious about Obama, whom I regard as the most measured, cautious guardian of America, here and abroad.

    • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

      Snark is spoken fluently, around here.

      • Deborah Ujevich

        Appreciate what you’re saying, but here’s the thing: I’ve been exiled to WV, and my God, they haaate him here. The most recent haha funny thing going around these parts is some joke about putting Obama on the penny. Y’know, bcuz he’s worthless? EVERYONE IS ON OBAMACARE, TOO. Well! I respond with fire, fury & frankly power, and maybe I’ve gotten a bit oversensitive. Thx for reminding me that this is a safe space, WHEW.

        • sorry to hear that. keep fighting the good fight.

          you’re a better person than i am for sure.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    What a brilliant re-election strategy! Have all of our progressive, liberal cities nuked.

    • TootsStansbury

      I’ve always figured that’s where this shit’ll end up. Maybe not nuked, maybe, but bombed to smithereens. Let’s continue to be nice to authoritarian fascists until they kill us dead because that’s how fascists roll, they don’t know anything else.

      • Claire

        But we have to understand their economic anxiety, though.

        • handyhippie65

          hell, i’m anxious about the economy, but i’m not insane enough to think the corporatists are going to fix it, seeing as how they caused it.

  • The Librarian
    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      Done. But I added the following:
      “I will be working hard to see your removal from office should you continue to support the presidency of someone who is clearly incapable of leading this country.”

      • The Librarian

        Excellent addendum. My guy is a nice Dem so I didn’t need to.

        • Persistent Tennessee Rain

          My guy is a Republican in a blue district that is gerrymandered into being red.

          • The Librarian

            Damn. :(

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            Yep. It’s a fact that more votes are cast for democrats each election, but Republicans continue to dominate. This shit needs to stop.

          • The Librarian

            No kidding. Too bad you guys aren’t in on the WI action in the SCOTUS, though hopefully a favorable outcome will help.

          • NellCote71

            You just described the entire state of Texas.

          • Persistent Tennessee Rain

            I’m in the Commonwealth of Pennsyltucky

        • Jeffery Campbell

          Even nice Dems need to be pushed.

          • The Librarian

            True, but my guy filed impeachment papers against Trump, so I’m not gonna threaten him yet.

  • The Militant Homosexual Agenda

    Before the drugs, alcohol and old age took their toll, I too, was formerly intelligent.

    • mailman27

      Speak for yourself, Tom Dooley! Wait, I mean to say… meant to say… wellyouknow…

  • Lefty Wright

    As much as I detest Orrin Hatch and Paul Ryan, I would support legislation requiring at least one of them to approve any launch in addition to the presidential approval. I don’t think their judgement in that regard is impaired, unlike Trump. Requiring full congressional approval would take too long in an urgent situation.

    • Regret

      There is never a need to launch nukes.

  • Moar Wordz

    When I watched the excerpt from his speech, I was reminded of Hitler’s Cult of Personality.
    German women used to sob hysterically at Hitler’s rallies.
    The plea for economic stability , no, REBIRTH – MAGA – distracting and/ or justifying average citizens ( his supporters ) from and for a multitude of zenophobic and tyrannical agendas. First they were sent home. There were the scapegoats, the Jews, in America’s case , immigrants. Obviously, there are huge differences between Hitler and Trump. But his speeches, however inaccurate, appeal to the uber- patriotic, everyman level. Reporters = Dishonest !!!! Coal= GOOD. If you can stand to listen carefully, there’s a flow to his speeches, despite his obsfucating repetitions, designed to, and achieving, a kind of mass hypnosis.
    A lie is the truth if said confidently enough.
    ” CNN isn’t recording my speech !!!!! ”
    What baffles me is there is a huge Jewish republican pool in the U.S.
    Can they not see the similarity ?

    • Regret

      zenophobia – the fear of the philosopher Zeno, or the fear of intermediate steps?

      • Moar Wordz

        Z , X they caught my drift.
        How lucky we are to have a person whose never made a spelling error !

    • phoenix00

      Cult of Personality isn’t/wasn’t limited to Hitler – even Napoleon and Stalin exhibited major signs of this.

      You’re not wrong though.

    • Werewolf

      Republican Jews are mostly Orthodox-who, like other fundamentalists, are authoritarian.

  • Bright Bart

    Is dumbassness a superpower?

    • Moar Wordz

      Only if you can stare at an eclipse

      • george lastrapes

        The sun went blind from staring at the PeeResident. But it got better.

    • george lastrapes

      Not only that. ‘Stand your ground’ is how wars get started, and nothing is dumbasser than that. Hmm. You have an ambassador, but the dumbasser overrules him.
      Oh. You meant ‘super power, but you wrote ‘superpower’. Now write on the blackboard….

      • Moar Wordz

        I feel a limerick coming on

        The Ambassador
        For the Dumbasser
        Went to the Holy See

        Kids speaking Dutch
        Created a fuss
        That Dumbasser
        Blew up the seas

        • Moar Wordz

          Limerick – poem – they’re in the same fucking genre aren’t they

  • handyhippie65

    he’s so lame, he’d get meg’s super powers. growing his fingernails at will. and not into wolverine claws.

    • Moar Wordz

      Who the hell is meg? Is that the character from the Family guy ?

      • handyhippie65

        yea, sorry. should’ve been more specific. the episode with the toxic waste spill where they got super powers.

        • Moar Wordz

          Lolz, Thanks –

  • Cornelius Fussbudget

    I guess if this presidency results in presidential powers being limited, that will be a good thing. Not good enough to outweigh the millions of people who will suffer and die in the mean time, mind you. I’m just trying to find a bright side, something to cling to when sanity is in short supply.

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