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Yet another Great Patriot has gotten himself arrested in an attempt to blow up a building and start the next revolution, to bring down the corrupt federal government and free America from the tyranny of America’s government, which isn’t legitimate, not one bit. Jerry Drake Varnell was arrested in the wee hours of Saturday morning after what he thought was a thousand-pound bomb in a stolen van failed to blow up. While the FBI relied on a criminal informant and an undercover agent to “help” Varnell along in his anti-government mission, it seems clear from the FBI’s criminal complaint (which is damn good reading!) that Varnell saw himself as the idea man — the CI and the undercover guy don’t appear to have been up to any entrapment schemes here. (You know, unless you’re Alex Jones and you know the Government lies about everything.)

Varnell floated the idea of blowing up a five-story Federal Reserve bank in Washington DC, because OF COURSE Federal Reserve. It’s just evil. He fantasized to the informant about doing a bigger bomb than Tim McVeigh’s Oklahoma City bomb, which was only about 600 pounds of explosives, and thought he might go after some big data centers, to either bring down credit card companies or maybe take Facebook offline. He wanted to send a message to the Feds and blow up something that would “somehow cripple the government. Something that sends a message that says, ‘You are a target.'”

Over an encrypted text — his idea — Varnell shared with the informant his desire to fight back against the federal government, but he was having trouble getting a “team” of like-minded militiamen together. In an early message in April of this year, Varnell said, “I’m out for blood,” but a couple weeks later he complained that the people he hoped to recruit “were too complacent and didn’t have ‘balls’,” according to the complaint. Isn’t that always how it goes when you try to get a good anti-government rebellion going?

Varnell, who lived with his parents on a farm in Sayre, Oklahoma, where he had his very own bunker for when the government collapses, saw himself as a pretty cool freedom fighter, according to the criminal complaint:

[This and other affidavit screenshots edited to fit in a single image; text unchanged]

Yep, a real honest Three Percenter dumbfuck with a bunker and delusions from movies.

The undercover agent, who was known to Varnell as “The Professor” — clearly, all you had to do to get this guy to play along was to make him feel like he was living out a big crappy Turner Diaries type adventure — was brought into the scheme as someone the criminal informant knew who could help with the technical stuff. Varnell eventually decided he’d hit a local target, in part because he’s “a broke fuck” who couldn’t afford to live out his dream of hitting multiple federal buildings in a single day. He targeted a BancFirst location in Oklahoma City, presumably because their website says they’re “state-chartered,” and that has to be something like the Federal Reserve, huh?

Varnell, the informant (“CHS-1”), and the undercover employee (UCE) cased the joint on July 13:

He also explained to the informant how he wanted to get his message out to the world: with a message on Facebook, from some untraceable fake account. Good thing he didn’t blow up a Facebook server farm, huh?

“The Professor” took special care to tell Varnell that he was running the show, and that if he wanted to drop the plan, there’d be no hard feelings, because after all, blowing up a building is a big damn deal. Varnell did at least show a little bit of concern for not killing too many people, possibly because he had a trace of worry about the morality of it, or maybe because he knew that his hero, Tim McVeigh, got a lot of bad press for blowing up a daycare center. So he decided to blow up the bank at night, after business hours, and if some cleaning staff died, that was an acceptable loss, he guessed:

Varnell and “The Professor” got together last Friday to build what Varnell was sure was a fertilizer and diesel fuel bomb, with detonation cord, dynamite, blasting caps, and a cell-phone trigger; all of the components were fake, of course. He drove the van to the bank a bit past midnight Saturday morning, parked it in an alley next to the bank, and drove several miles away with “The Professor” to set off the bomb — he took the phone and dialed the number that was supposed to trigger the bomb, at least three times. There was no earth-shattering KABOOM, and FBI agents swarmed in to arrest him.

Guess that little revolution didn’t go very well. Here’s the weirdest thing we found on Varnell’s Facebook page: In June 2015, after the Supreme Court ruled for marriage equality, he used a Facebook toy to post a Pride Flag profile pic.

Apart from photos, the content of the Facebook page was friends-only, so there’s no telling what changed between 2015 and last winter, when he first started talking to the informant, that would have made him go toward wingnut radicalism.

Maybe it was economic anxiety.

Honestly, go read the Criminal Complaint. Make a hell of a screenplay for the Coen Brothers. Also, this is Yr OPEN THREAD.

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[WaPo via JJ MacNab on Twitter / Criminal Complaint via WBTV]

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  • SomeBigRedDog

    If he wanted to take down the government he should have targeted Twitter.

    • shastakoala

      Or Fox News. But he just could have hidden the dictionary for that.

      • doktorzoom

        Nicely played! Glad to see you back on here, also too.

        • shastakoala

          Awake, also too.

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    Course it was economic anxiety, target was a bank, right?

  • Zippy W Pinhead
  • Joe Beese

    The first rule of Fight Club is that you don’t footnote Fight Club.

    • ahughes798

      What is the second rule of Fight Club?

  • bupkus231

    You just know that alt-right crazies are gonna focus on that “Pride Flag profile pic”, and claim this was all a false flag operation, meant to argle bargle the gay agenda barfle splot….

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Yup, proof that the homersexuals are the real terrorists

    • SnarkON

      False Rainbow Flag Operation!

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Much like Scarface and Goodfellas, many idiots miss the point of Fight Club

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Repeat after me: Muslims are not the problem. White “Christians” are.

  • Joe Beese

    the CI and the undercover guy don’t appear to have been up to any entrapment schemes here

    The fact that you felt obliged to add this speaks volumes about how prevalent a practice it is and why I do not extend the feds the benefit of the doubt.

    • doktorzoom

      Yup — the complaint goes to some lengths to shoe Varnell as the guy who made (stupid) decisions, and his defense will probably be that he was too fucking stupid to have directed the building of a bomb with real accomplices. But compared to some of the FBI’s “we found a guy saying Death to America on the Internet and offered him a rocket launcher” cases, this one seems more solid to my non-expert eyes. Varnell seems to have been more than happy to dream big once he met someone who “understood” his hatred for the government.

      But yeah, the disclaimer is there for a reason.

  • elviouslyqueer

    “If only he were black, we would’ve hit the leftist jackpot!”

    — Fox and Friends, just now.

    • OutOfOrbit

      you MUST be kidding

      • Major_Major_Major

        Of course he is kidding. Fox and Friends runs in the AM. They WILL be saying it, but haven’t yet. Or EQ borrowed Bamz’ time machine.

    • MrTusks

      If he was black he would have been executed for jaywalking on the way to the fertilizer store.

  • Ωbjectifier

    Fucking neckbeards. Back to the basement, the lot of ya.

  • OutOfOrbit

    he will be tried, convicted, sent to prison and eventually come out with nazi tat’s all over his head, neck, shoulders, chest, back, arms…oh you get the pic

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Even more tats than he’s taking in, you mean.

      • OutOfOrbit

        didnut see tats here

        • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

          Oh, I’m sure he’s got some. $5 says he has a swastika on his ass. And “88” on his dick (because that’s all that would fit).

          • OutOfOrbit

            oh my you naughty thing

          • Amy!

            One ‘8’ on each side? ‘Cause wouldn’t fit vertically.

    • SnarkON

      I hate that nose ring thing so hard.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Know what I hate? Those ear-stud things the size of poker chips that people stretch their earlobes with. Every time I see someone wearing that I actually want to puke.

        • SnarkON

          Like the one Varnell is wearing? I hate those too.

        • ahughes798

          Those plugs are disgusting. I bet when some of these folks get older, they’ll be shell out a lot of $$$ getting their earlobes reconstructed.

      • ahughes798

        For me, it depends on where it’s done, and how large the piercing. A friend of mine had one..it was very thin sterling silver wire, was on the flared part of her right nostril, towards the top of the flared out part, it looked really nice. It was subtle and looked good on her.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        The offspring has a septum piercing (thanks, ex-husband!!), which I loathe. He is required to push the ring up into his nose when he’s anywhere near me. To me, it looks like his nose is running.

        He also has a piercing on the flared bit of his nostril – I don’t mind that one at all, and if my beloved and I ever marry, I’ll probably get one myself, since that’s a thing married women do in his culture.

        I allowed him to pierce his ears when he was about 14, but refused to allow him to put gauges in to stretch them because they are a) stupid and b) stupid.

        Of course, he tried to sneak them in, so he lost his piercing privileges and the holes were allowed to close.

        • ahughes798

          Thank Jah you put your foot down! I hope you get your piercing ;-)

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            Thank you!! So do I! :D

  • schmannity

    If you are looking for something to blow up that would make government better, why didn’t he target somebody’s ego?

    • Khavrinen

      Not enough explosives on the planet for a target that size.

  • ManchuCandidate

    Tyler Durden he ain’t.

    More like Tyler Derpden.

    ETA: I thought “The Professor” would have made the bomb from Coconuts?

    • doktorzoom

      Or a Nanny.

  • HazooToo

    More terrorism.

    • willi0000000

      couldn’t be . . . white.

  • armed_bears

    SWM living in parents’ bunker. Sounds like a demographic for some agency or another to profile.

  • Jeffocaster in the West

    “Into the basket with you!!!!!” Donnie Trump

    • willi0000000

      is that a Madame Defarge quote?

  • schmannity

    Tell me more about these FEMA detention centers and will they be fully operational June 20, 2021?

  • Interestingly enough, “That’s the kind of shit I want to fucking do, It’s time to do that kind of fucking shit” is the exact same thing I said to myself this weekend, only I was dreaming about being a MotoGP racer for Team Movistar Yamaha or Team Ducati.

    Weird.

    • Ωbjectifier
      • I’ll never forgive Pedrosa for that move….damn near cost Nicky Hayden the world championship in 2006.

        RIP Kentucky Kid.

        • ahughes798

          Did you ever hear of…I think his name was Barry Sheene? I used to watch him race. He was fantastic.

          • Of course. One of the greatest on two wheels.

            RIP Barry.

      • Major_Major_Major

        Nicky Hayden, PBUH.

      • ahughes798

        People think race car drivers are crazy. Those bike racers are even crazier. I wouldn’t even have the courage. I’m into watching bike racing a bit, and I do watch the Isle of Man TT every year. It’s amazing. I heard about the Kentucky Kid. What a shame.

    • Major_Major_Major

      To be teammates with the Doctor would be amazing. and the desmosedici sounds better than sex (at least to me now that I am almost an old)

  • memzilla Ω

    Although we all have a pretty good idea we’ll hit the BreitFoxDrudgeJones superfecta, I can’t wait to see this fuckhead’s browsing history put into evidence.

  • OutOfOrbit

    will there be warrants for those he tried to get (so they knew what he was doing) and said nothing?

    • doktorzoom

      Hard to say — from the complaint, it looks like his initial plan was to form a militia to go after government officials after the SHTF, but when he started talking to the informant and found someone who understood him, that’s when his plans started getting more grandiose. Not clear the people he sounded out for a “team” ever heard more than “Let’s do a militia!” Maybe, maybe not.

  • schmannity

    Trump’s approval rating just ticked down another .0000001%

  • Bill D. Burger

    He’s a loan wolf, was probably a nice honor student who kept to himself. He’s mentally ill and needs treatment.

    Def. not terrorism…nope!

    No terrorist……..YOU’RE THE TERRORIST!

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      Loan wolf? Well he was trying to blow up a bank.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        N.a. dum tish, I thought the same thing. Also, from now on I’m going to call bankers “LOAN wolves,”

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        needs moar huffing and puffing

      • doktorzoom

        The Loan Wolf and the Loan Shark are natural enemies.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Apropos of nothing – if Tom Arnold had a tape of Trump being a huge racist, why didn’t he release it, and possibly save America from this nightmare? Also, too, any chance Trump gets re-elected? 😇

  • WotsAllThisThen

    Omelets, eggs, and “cripple the government?”

    If you really want to cripple the government, put Trump in the White House.

  • BosGrl

    OT: Not sure if this is the open thread. Had a long day of job searching but this was so funny, I had to share:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd1dc26a3469b345568c078e43c2ed9f6854ad3c37d70b0f8065ebb84871c95e.jpg

    • hendenburg2

      “Attention to punctuation, however, is not required”

      • BosGrl

        That’s why I LOL’d!

        • hendenburg2

          Also, improper use of “bodes”

          • BosGrl

            Well, at least they didn’t mention the war!

          • grindstone

            Augurs well? No, that means the same. Will impress?

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I worked with some developers who were building an auto warehouse for a German company. The developers said : “Our clients have informed us that “Force Majeur” is a FRENCH expression “

    • OutOfOrbit

      A Bauuston gurl could be a big help for IDS

      • BosGrl

        Yeah, but they don’t want to pay. I have another week to be picky.

  • cats530

    He wanted to send a message to the Feds and blow up something that would
    “somehow cripple the government. Something that sends a message that
    says, ‘You are a target.’”

    There are at least a dozen other Federal Reserve buildings in various cities, so I’m really not sure how this act of terror was supposed to “cripple the gubmint” or wipe out the Federal Reserve.

    • Cosmopolitan John

      So you’re suggesting this guy’s reasoning skills aren’t all that well-developed . . .

  • Jenny

    Oh yeah, well he really punished his ex girlfriend when he stole her Aunt’s fancy letter opener. Maybe she will think twice about breaking someone’s heart again!

  • CripesAmighty
  • Bill D. Burger

    Is this another example of white christian extremist domestic terrorism? Yes I said it___ {{{ White Christian Extremist Domestic Terrorism! }}}

    Wheeeew’! Well, if Cheetolini won’t, somebody has to.

    *And that dude fabs to pics of Timothy McVeigh also/too! :-P

  • WotsAllThisThen

    Trump condemns bombings from many sides. Many sides.

    • Bill D. Burger
    • BosGrl

      Why does he do that weird repeating thing? To remember what he just said? To stall for time?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        sales pitch- emphasis. It’s the annoying thing all salesmen do, along with getting you to answer “yes” to a bunch of questions

        • BosGrl

          This is why I never did well in sales…

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    So he’s a lesbian farmer AND a RWNJ terrorist? What a world….

  • Ezio
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      White Alligator- worst 80’s hair metal band ever!

  • Joe Beese
  • Indiepalin

    It is being reported that Trump is considering a posthumous pardon for Timothy McVeigh.

    • Bobathonic

      I encourage the same for many others.

  • Anna Rompage

    How many more innocent people will have to die at the hands of these terrorist, before these alt right, white nationalist militia and whatnot get the govt approved branding of being a terrorist organization?

    • Bobathonic

      Has Trump said “radical white supremacist terrorism” yet? No? Hunh, well that’s what starts the clock.

  • Lazy Media

    It’s nearly always the same sorts. Bored, frustrated young men without careers or families. Doesn’t matter if it’s the Red Brigade, ISIS or the 3 percenters. We need a new CCC to keep these peckerwoods out of trouble.

    • Bobathonic

      The privilege just isn’t paying off as they were led to believe.

    • cmd resistor

      Often the mass shooters, too.

  • suzeb1964

    “Varnell, who lived with his parents on a farm in Sayre, Oklahoma, where he had his very own bunker” Is bunker just another word for Mommy’s basement?

    • ghastly_fop

      Yes

      • doktorzoom

        Oh, worse. It was a separate, partly underground structure, mostly covered with earth. He called it a bunker; maybe mom and dad thought it was a storm cellar, it being Oklahoma and all.

        He also said he’d built a secret room in the new house they’d put up on the property, for to grow weed in.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          This is all for the better. Otherwise, Mom and Dad were – eventually – going to to be found out back under the tool shed.

  • Michael R

    It would be nice to have made everyone in America watch this before they voted , not that it would have made much of a difference , 17 minutes long

    In this anti-fascist film produced by US Military in the wake of WWII, the producers deconstruct the politically motivated social engineering of Germany by the Nazi regime.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk

    • Randy Riddle

      In my day job, I’m involved in education. Research has pretty consistently shown that people in an online course won’t watch more than five or six minutes of an online video.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Have you tried adding starships, laser weapons, robots and babes? Research shows that that holds their attention for 90 minutes or more.

    • doktorzoom

      Gosh, I wish we had included that in a post yesterday or even today!

      OK, no big deal that you (*sniff!*) don’t read all the articles we (*sob!!*) work so hard to hand-craft out of the finest artisanal snark for you every day. It’s a hell of a good little ol’ propaganda movie.

      • President in Exile Firefly

        It might be the finest artisanal snark now, but just wait till you get bought up by some international snark conglomerate. Then it will be ordinary run of the mill snark.

      • Bobathonic

        The more times it’s posted, the better.

      • Michael R

        What had happened was :
        I woke up at 2 am and couldn’t get back to sleep so I started my work day at 3 am , then I slept through Wonking hours , so if you would post helpful articles about dealing with trying times none of this would have happened .

        • doktorzoom

          Well, there’s always a Pan-Galactic Gargleblaster….

  • Bill D. Burger

    Thanks a fuckin’ bunch Oklahoma school system.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Assumes school system not in existence.

  • CripesAmighty

    Sad thing is, the fact that he didn’t succeed in blowing the Fed halfway to the moon means that Fox and Frauds will just dissemble, “Well, we don’t REALLY KNOW…some people say…it was a set up…how do we know he wasn’t a leftist, blabla, yakyak…”.
    And everybody’ll forget about it in two weeks

  • BearLeft

    Instead, the FBI sent Varny-boy a message that says, “You are a douchebag.” A douchebag who’s about to get free room and board for several years I’d guess.

  • Empress of the Iguana People

    So, a bank robber who’s not even in it for the money.

    • Crystalclear12

      I’m guessing he was home schooled.

      Home schooling- pass on your ignorance in the name of religion!

  • Randy Riddle

    Poor guy, having all of his essence sapped by the fluoridez like that.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Gentlemen, you can’t snark here, this is the wonk room!

  • doktorzoom

    Update: Yes, this is now Yr Open Thread. We decided to hold Evan’s hilarious, side-splitting deconstruction of Trump’s new RECORD LOW poll numbers for tomorrow morning.

    Behave yourselves! Behave yourselves!

  • Joe Beese
  • Bill D. Burger

    Has Trump condemned this yet, because….

    bwwwwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…….Sorry. Couldn’t finish that.

    (*BTW: It’s only been 9 days since the mosque was bombed in Minnesota. Guess he’s gonna’ trickle down that condemnation soon, huh? )

  • mackafritz

    Where was Mary Ann in all this?

  • Thiazin Red

    Since this is now your open thread, ever since I got my promotion I’ve been getting all kinds of weird academic scam emails. I had no idea this was a thing before.

    • Amy!

      Publishers? Or some other scam?

  • Joe Beese
  • Ezio

    OT for open thread: The creator of “Godwin’s law” says calling white nationalists Nazis is appropriate, thereby shutting down all right wingers who invoke Godwin’s law forever.

    http://gizmodo.com/godwin-of-godwins-law-by-all-means-compare-these-shi-1797807646

    • Thiazin Red

      I’d say if someone is carrying around something with a swastika on it, you can safely make the assumption.

    • TJ Barke

      Again, all the law says is that the longer an internet thread goes on the probability of some being compared to hitler or a nazi approaches one. Doesn’t have anything to say about the validity of the comparison.

      • mancityRed6

        in this day and age, that doesn’t take long.

      • doktorzoom

        What are you, some kind of FACT NAZI?

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          one of them Prussian pedants…

        • TJ Barke

          Your intolerance of my intolerance is the real intolerance!

    • Three Finger Salute

      It’s actually called Godwin’s Executive Order now.

  • Pisto75666

    “Over an encrypted text — his idea — Varnell shared with the informant his desire to fight back against the federal government, but he was having trouble getting a “team” of like-minded militiamen together.”

    I get the struggle. I mean, first everybody’s got to get permission from their moms. Then they have to be home before dinner. It’s a wonder how any good militia comes together,

  • Zippy W Pinhead
    • mancityRed6

      I’m not even going to click the link, I’ll bet that that’s the Tiki torch people condemning the use of their products.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        bingo- they torched the Nazis for using their products

  • Crystalclear12

    What bunker means in Oklahoma:
    Storm shelter in the backyard.
    May also be called root cellar.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      AKA the hole in the ground you throw a piece of plywood over before you park the trailer on top of it

    • Cosmopolitan John

      Probably the outhouse.

    • mancityRed6

      what my exes last boss used to call his “scaredy hole”

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Where you go when a tornado seeks to move you to Oz.

    • jowgajen

      If you don’t have one of these in OK, you are an idiot that will likely die in a tornado.

      • Crystalclear12

        Yep

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    I wonder if the DC Fed Reserve is anything like the one in NYC. Because if it is — dude, you’re gonna need a bigger truck.
    http://s3-origin-images.politico.com/2015/03/20/lede_150318_ny_fed_signs1_ap.jpg

  • Jgb979

    “Varnell thinks his life is like fight club, wanting to do Mcveigh but bigger”

    Laughed when three sentences later

    “Varnell lives with his parents”

    I know he’s a dumber than shit inbred hayseed. If he was brown he’d already be in GITMO.

    • jesterpunk

      Why is it all these so called tough guy right wing assholes all live with their parents? Arnt they supposed to be superior to everyone else and part of the makers? Sure do sound like a bunch of whiny takers to me.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        You try affording an apartment on what you make at the Top Dog hot dog stand…

        • jesterpunk

          Oops.

        • MrTusks

          But isn’t OK one of those places where they pay you to live there? If not…why does anyone live there?

  • Odd Jørgensen

    “safety is Nr. 1…” ayup, can`t go around being part of a revolution if you`re not safe. safe as houses, nuthouses.

  • Ezio
    • JMP

      There seem to be about as many different definitions of “alt-left” as there are people using the term like it was a thing; it’s ignoring that “alt-right” is a term that the white supremacists and Nazis coined for themselves to use as a euphemism, but now many media figures have decided that there must be a liberal equivalent for some reason and keep trying to use the phrase even though it doesn’t actually mean anything.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        It’s the relentless false equivalency bothsidesdoit disease of Broderism, which is a lethal cancer on the body of the MSM.

        • cmd resistor

          Causing “alt-facts.”

          • Amy!

            Oh, Kelly Anne spelled that one out. “Alternative facts,” quoth she.

      • Tokays_don’t_blink

        Our media must find balance in all things, no matter what mental contortions they must endure to find it. This is the essence of derp-zen.

  • mancityRed6

    “…he used a Facebook toy to post a Pride Flag profile pic.”
    well, that settles it, he was a librul commy traiter.

  • JMP

    If your facial hair only grows in in small patches, maybe growing a beard is not a good idea, you’ll just look ridiculous.

    • OutOfOrbit

      a sure sign of weak mojo

  • Bill D. Burger

    If you’re ‘alt-right’____ These are your friends. You are they.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHN2JXCUMAAHGvo.jpg

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      If it was circumcised, it must have been Jared’s.

      • mancityRed6

        funny, I don’t look Jewish.

      • therblig

        that’s a foreskin conclusion

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      So whatever did happen to GoDaddy’s threat to remove their domain? That still ticking down?

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Still. They tried to go register with Google. Less than 4 hours later Google canceled their domain registration. Discord booted their chatroom and some of their accounts too.

    • Joe Beese

      Say it ain’t so, Joe!

  • Lyly Sirivong

    What a rotten day. The aftermath of Charlottesville, terror attack in Burkina Faso, deadly floods in Sierra Leone and now this.
    https://twitter.com/TheLocalFrance/status/897207344374792193

  • President in Exile Firefly

    The Professor! Were The Skipper and Gilligan in on this plot too?

    I assume Thurston Howell III would oppose bombing a bank.

    • mancityRed6

      it was the millionaire and his wife.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        millionaires don’t blow up banks

        • mancityRed6

          well, no..not _their_ banks.

    • OutOfOrbit

      mebbe but purdy sure there were no gwirls

    • Bobathonic

      I hope the criminal complaint, at least just once, describes the informant and undercover as “and the rest”.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Oh noooozer’! They are in trouble. Send em’ your __?__ ASAP.

    Scarlett O’Hara: “Why..why, I’ll just cry into my pillow all night.”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHKa96oUMAA_KEe.jpg

    • mancityRed6

      I’ve already read about their “hacking” by Anonymous and how it was all just a ploy by them. Google has already dropped them after they tried to get somewhere after the website was dropped by godaddy.

    • Cosmopolitan John

      Not even Hitler resorted to litigation!

    • Joe Beese

      It’s not easy standing up for your beliefs, I guess.

      • armed_bears

        Who knew it was so hard?

        • mancityRed6

          Rosa Parks?
          sorry, I thought it was one of those open ended questions that are all the rage on here.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Shut.Them.Down

    • therblig

      doesn’t their sort traffic in krugerrands?

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Question for the wonk collective: Thursday night the local minor-league club is doing a Pride Night in conjunction with OUR Center. Part of that includes selling Pride Night t-shirts and donating part of the proceeds to the organization.
    I guess my question is, given how some of our fellow LGBTQ wonkers feel about rainbow products being sold, would it be an okay or not-okay thing to get a shirt?

  • ⭐️ BRAINTHRUST 5000 ⭐️

    Man, who would have thought the GOP opportunistically spreading McVeigh’s ideology for votes would lead to this

    • mancityRed6

      I know, right?

    • DainBramage

      All of us, Katie.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Guy with Hitler haircut seen at Nazi rally not an angry racist: https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Peter-Cvjetanovic-2-410×220.jpg

    • Joe Beese

      Does he go to Supercuts and ask for “the Hitler”?

      • Bobathonic

        It’s Hypercuts, now.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Ubercuts.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Gee, it must be terrible to be judged for the content of your character and the company you keep.

      • Cosmopolitan John

        And the pig got up and slowly walked away.

    • Beautiful Soup

      Just a really enthusiastic one.

    • Bill D. Burger

      Little snowflake cuck is crying like a bitch to anyone who will listen.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Or was it that he said he didn’t want people to THINK he was?

    • Three Finger Salute

      Aw, innee a cute widdle Nazi! Someday he’s gonna gwow up to be a big boy and his mustache will finally gwow in!

    • RMKH

      His momma is so proud, she’s going to make S’mores for him and all his little friends.

  • Picabo

    “Charlottesville car attack suspect has a history of domestic violence, like so many other terrorists”
    “The records the Florence Police Department in Kentucky show the man’s mother had called police in 2011. Records show Fields’ mother, Samantha Bloom, told police he stood behind her wielding a 12-inch knife. Bloom is disabled and uses a wheelchair.

    In another incident in 2010, Bloom said that Fields smacked her in the head and locked her in the bathroom after she told him to stop playing video games. Bloom told officers Fields was on medication to control his temper.”
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/14/1689581/-Charlottesville-car-attack-suspect-has-a-history-of-domestic-violence-like-so-many-other-terrorists#view-story

    • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

      Domestic abusers almost always end up committing murder. That’s simply a fact.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      that somewhat explains her initial denials about her son- she was afraid of him

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    “The undercover agent, who was known to Varnell as “The Professor” — clearly, all you had to do to get this guy to play along was to make him feel like he was living out a big crappy Turner Diaries type adventure — was brought into the scheme as someone the criminal informant knew who could help with the technical stuff.”

    http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/screen_shot_2014-01-16_at_9.55.39_pm.png

  • chascates
    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Strong online presence =/= actual physical presence. Remember that Russia’s trolling efforts last election was done by maybe 200 people.

    • mancityRed6

      wait, there are “flophouses”?
      why was I not told?
      can I bring the cats?

    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      They think if they believe hard enough, that makes it a win. Not how it works.

      Have an upfist for shining a light into the cockroach nest.

    • Raan

      I am disgusted that they did not shorten it to KKKlowns.

  • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

    What a maroon. What a terri Bull.

  • Joe Beese
    • LadyLaz

      Wow. They are devouring each other.

    • Cosmopolitan John

      I suspect Trump is more afraid of Bannon outside the tent pissing in than vice versa.

      • Bobathonic

        I think he’s distracted by the pissing in the metaphor.

      • mancityRed6

        right now, the brainfart favorability is dependant on tRump keeping Bannon and getting rid of McMaster.
        so you’re not far off.

    • gallbladder

      When is he expecting?

      • Beautiful Soup

        Isn’t he the one who called Spicey fat?

    • Rick Hill

      Nobody tells trumpy what to do. Nobody!

    • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

      Proof of the validity of white supremacy, right there. That’s some pure genetic code alright. Purely fucked up. That guy is like a walking communicable disease. He’s like scabies personified. He’s probably five dozen sewer rats wearing a skin suit. He’s a visual cue for spontaneous regurgitation. I could go on, but I think I made the point that he’s just a vomitous mass and in no way represents anything remotely organic.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      The problem is that I don’t think Donnie has the stones to fire him. Donnie is a bully and a pathetic, puling little coward. If anyone actually pulls the trigger, it will be Kelly.

    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      Murdoch, as in the owner of Fox? Or is there another whispering sweet nuthins into Drumpf’s ear?

    • schmannity

      He has to go? 1 or 2?

  • Weird Fishes

    “He’s too sexy for his orange jumpsuit”

    Yes, the boys in his cell block prefer it that way.

    • weejee
      • Zombishroom

        This is wonderful.

    • doktorzoom

      Please review the rules. That’s cutting a little close to the ‘no prison rape” joke rule

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • Weird Fishes

        Apologies.

  • Rags

    Condemnation of white terrorist by 4-5 in
    one billion, ninehundredninetyninemillionninehundredandninetyninethousandninehundredandninetynine,
    ninehundredninetyninemillionninehundredandninetyninethousandninehundredandninetyeight,
    ninehundredninetyninemillionninehundredandninetyninethousandninehundredandninetyseven,
    ……

  • Joe Beese
    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Funny how people are wonderful awesome YOOGE TREMENDOUS while he still needs them, and automatically become awful evil WEAK SAD as soon as he doesn’t.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        It is always, always, always, ONLY about him and his needs. Nothing else exists for him.

    • Bub, the cynical zombie

      What about your daughter’s business, asshole? What about YOUR businesses? Do you manufacture your branded goods in the U.S.? How many H2B visas are held by people working at your hotels and resorts?

      The stink of lies, corruption and hypocrisy exude from you and your family like the stench of putrefaction from a pig carcass that has been rotting under the blazing sun for a week.

      • jesterpunk

        What about his properties who just hire foreign workers on visas and send out job ads with a disconnected fax number to claim they cant find anyone?

    • Raan

      Where was his condemnation when Pharma Bro?

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    Oh look. Here’s the Trump Dump of the day!

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/897212560340127745

    • gallbladder

      (reaches for popcorn)

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Collaboration? What collaboration are you talking about, Willis?

    • Bobathonic

      Captain Renault is unsurprised.

      • Amy!

        He’s shocked. Shocked!

    • Bill D. Burger

      http://www.thehomeplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Me-likey.gif

      “What Russians? No Russians…..YOU’RE THE RUSSIANS!”

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      was just about to post this- sorry chat cave, it’s never the end of the day in Trumpville

    • Joe Beese

      Great… now I have to remember how to spell “Papadopoulos”.

    • Joe Beese

      Papadopoulos, a former intern and researcher at the conservative Hudson Institute, was on a list of campaign volunteers that Trump announced as his foreign policy advisory team during a meeting with The Post’s editorial board in March 2016. Trump called Papadopoulos an “excellent guy.”

      Almost immediately, Papadopoulos came under scrutiny for his lack of experience.

      • mancityRed6

        that’s about 99% of the tRump team, though.

      • doktorzoom

        No, no, you cut off the blockquote too soon!

        He graduated from college in 2009, and his LinkedIn profile cited his participation in a Model U.N. program for students among his qualifications.

        MODEL U.N. qualifies you as a foreign policy adviser!

        • Stulexington

          A model at the UN you say? You’re hired!

    • mancityRed6

      does Mueller get a copy of these correspondences?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        if nothing else, I’m sure he reads WaPo

        • Raan

          I bet he at the very least has a Google Alert set up.

        • Three Finger Salute

          That’s “Amazon self-published KindleSpace Washington Fake Post” to you!

    • The Librarian

      “the email chain provides “concrete evidence that the Russia collusion narrative is fake news.” As if! Manafort didn’t want some low-level stooge mucking up the Russia plans.

      • Three Finger Salute

        “Manafort didn’t want some low-level stooge mucking up the Russia plans.”

        Nyet, nyet, nyet. -Curly Manafort

    • Crystalclear12

      If they are posting this on Monday I can’t wait to find out what they held back for Friday.

  • Me not sure

    “Thanks for calling the FBI patsy line.Your call is very important to us. To detonate your fake bomb in English enter 1. To donate your fake bomb in Spanish enter 2. To detonate your fake bomb in Arabic enter 3. You are currently 4th in line to detonate a fake bomb. Thank you for your patience, now raise your hands and get out of the van.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0b27e50f7f6902f22d76c9fcb622ed18775d2fcd76e7a531d0a3a98f00c7ad34.jpg

    • Three Finger Salute

      THERE IT IS!!!!! HILLARY’S PIZZA PEDO VAN!!!!!!1111!!!!!!

  • Weird Fishes

    His stupid makes my head hurt. Real bad.

  • Three Finger Salute

    He’s a gay McVeigh? What universe are we living in?

    • Raan

      Timothy McGay.

      What, you expect me not to shorten something so obvious?

      • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

        Beat me to it. People here are too sharp for me to keep up with.

  • Kiri the Unicorn

    https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/varnell-pride-pic-6-26-2015.jpg

    The sad thing is, if he had just dressed up as a satyr and gone to furry conventions, he’d have been too busy getting laid to do stupid shit like this.

    • gallbladder
    • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

      If only more people busied themselves by getting laid, there’d be a huge drop in violence world wide.

      • Three Finger Salute
      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        Based on that asshole at Daily Storm and the endless blathering about “every girl will want your dick,” I’m beginning to think not only this but perhaps ISIS is actually just about assholes who can’t get laid. It’s their actual characters coming out in their actions, and proving the women who refuse to go near them are 100% correct.

        • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

          I’m of a mind that all male hatred is based, to some degree, on the inability to get laid. We just seem to be wired that way.

    • Me not sure

      “The Afternoon of a Pawn”

  • Raan

    I’ve never seen Fight Club, but wasn’t Tyler Durden the product of literal insanity?

    • Me not sure

      Yup!

    • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

      Yes, he was. Tyler Durden didn’t even exist. The whole thing was meant to be satire, a shame lunatics can’t grasp that.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Donald J. Trump should be calling for a total and complete shutdown of White Millennial Age Males moving around the the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.

  • SnarkON

    Only slightly OT: Sooner or later the militant left really is going to make a re-appearance. I’ve been doing all sorts of reading lately on Patty Hearst, the Weathermen, and other violent anti-fascist radicalism of the late 60s/early 70s. I was way too young to understand this long period of leftist violence when it happened. It’s due for a comeback any day now.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Weimar 2.0 — the first one didn’t end well though…

  • SammyDEEEE

    I very much want to punch Nazis. Like, I mean, after this weekend, it’s all I can think about.

    I guess what I want to know is where I can go to punch a fucking Nazi.

    • Joe Beese
    • HazooToo

      Check Twitter. We don’t make recommendations for that here. But if we did, I would probably insist you check Twitter. And avoid Florida, because they intend to make use of Stand Your Ground laws to murder protestors.

    • Rick Hill

      You didn’t get the invite? It went out to everone. Listen, tell you what. Just send me your contact info. Email, bank account, PIN, mother’s maiden name. I’ll get it right out to you, we’re having a nazi punching party in just a few days so hurry!

      • Raan

        Would it be in Nigeria, by any chance?

        • Bill D. Burger

          When I get my lottery winnings from Lagos, I’ll fly everyone there….1st Class!

    • Raan

      Remember, don’t sink to their level.

      That said, if a Nazi throws first, by all means, beat the everloving shit out of them.

      https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/01/10-videogames-that-let-you-punch-a-nazi.html

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        It isn’t “sinking to their level.” It’s “standing up to them” and “letting them know their evil and hatred has no place in decent society.”

        • doktorzoom

          Actually, it’s assault, and you can stand up to Nazis without violence or advocating violence, the latter of which we hav very specific rules against, which I will thank you in advance for reviewing.

          Also, I don’t remember my left eye twitching like this back on Friday.

          — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            You’re right. I meant to express that standing up to Nazis is righteous, not “sinking to their level,” but to let them know their evil has no place here, and also to express support for people standing against them. I didn’t mean to advocate outright violence and should have been more careful in how I worded things. BECAUSE NAZIS ARE SO CAREFUL AND SENSITIVE IN THE WAY THEY WORD THINGS. Sorry, sorry, it just blurted out. Also, I don’t remember MY entire face twitching like this. Your point is well taken and I apologize.

          • doktorzoom

            All is well. Nazis really don’t care about what they say. Yet another difference between us and them :)

    • Bill D. Burger
    • doktorzoom

      Somewhere that doesn’t have very specific rules against shitty violent revenge fantasies, I’d suggest. Also someplace with a moderator who isn’t really fucking tired of repeating this message all fucking weekend.

      That would be a very good place for you to go, I believe, should you feel the need to continue talking about punching anyone.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • SammyDEEEE

        Sorry Dok. No disrespect.

        • doktorzoom

          All is well. Now for penance, you must go to Netflix and watch the first four seasons of My LittlePony: Friendship is Magic. You can skip “Spike at Your Service” and the one with the owl, because while I’m stern, I’m not cruel

          • SammyDEEEE

            You are wise and and beneficent, and I rightly give you praise.

  • Picabo

    “Lost jobs and a father publicly disowning his son: Heavy blowback for marching white supremacists”
    “I, along with all of his siblings and his entire family, wish to loudly repudiate my son’s vile, hateful, and racist rhetoric and actions. We do not know specifically where he learned these beliefs. He did not learn them at home.

    I have shared my home and hearth with friends and acquaintances of every race, gender, and creed. I have taught all of my children that all men and women are created equal. That we must love each other all the same.

    Evidently Peter has chosen to unlearn these lessons, much to my and his family’s heartbreak and distress. We have been silent up until now, but now we see that this was a mistake. It was the silence of good people that allowed the Nazis to flourish the first time around, and it is the silence of good people that is allowing them to flourish now.

    Peter Tefft, my son, is not welcome at our family gatherings any longer. I pray my prodigal son will renounce his hateful beliefs and return home. Then and only then will I lay out the feast.”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/14/1689419/-Lost-jobs-and-a-father-publicly-disowning-his-son-Heavy-blowback-for-marching-white-supremacists#read-more https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f963a0643fd3052ecc7f09023a554cfaacd667c524c89dda24403648366bf8e.jpg

    • hendenburg2

      man, I miss Top Dog. More than I miss Blondie’s.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        Top Dog is THE BEST. Luckily I only moved down to L.A. so I can go back home easily. Top Dog is always my first stop.

    • SnarkON

      Wow. That’s a powerful statement from Dad.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        It is wonderful. So heartbreaking. So powerful. And shows everyone exactly what a decent person’s condemnation looks like.

      • grindstone

        My son keeps going, “why do you guys keep talking about Nazis??!” Here’s why, son. We don’t want to ever have to write a letter like this. I’m sure these parents never dreamed their son would go down this path. Heartbreaking.

    • HazooToo

      Good. Let’s make it even heavier.

  • Zippy W Pinhead
    • HazooToo

      What the actual fuck?

    • mancityRed6

      this could end badly for anyone who isn’t in face paint.

    • gallbladder

      I was afraid it would come to this.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Stupid, how does it work?

    • Suttree

      How will you tell the difference between the two groups?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        say what you will about the Juggalos, but at least they tend to mind their own business and don’t go around attacking people like a common Trumpanzee

  • CO
  • Lyly Sirivong

    Day off for me tomorrow. Public holiday. Because about 2000 years ago, Mary, mother of Jesus fell asleep. Or something like that.

    • mancityRed6

      it’s August, aren’t you supposed to be on vacation anyway? ; )

      • Lyly Sirivong

        That’s what’s great about not having kids. I can take my vacation whenever I want. I’m working all summer. It’s a bit boring. But in october, when everyone is cranky because the weather’s getting colder and they have to resume work, I’ll be on holiday in SE Asia.

        • mancityRed6

          sorry, stereotypical “France shuts down in August joke”…unless you drink your coffee from a bowl.

          • Lyly Sirivong

            It’s still a very true stereotype though… Most of the little shops and the restaurants I usually go to are closed. Supermarkets are open every day of year though, which was not the case a few years ago.

          • mancityRed6

            the first ex went to France a few times, it’s where her mother’s mother was from.
            channel hopping so it wasn’t far for her.

    • Suttree

      I never get off for the Assumption of Mary day! Catholic holy days don’t get any respect here.

      • Lyly Sirivong

        We’ve got so many of them. There’s Christmas and Easter of course, but also Ascension Thursday and Assumption. We used to have Pentecost, but not anymore.
        And if you’re not a catholic, you can have extra days for Yom Kippour, Roch Hachanah, Aïd El Kebir, Vesak day, etc…
        And there are the non religious ones ! World wars, Labour Day, All Saints’ Day, etc…

        • Suttree

          It must be horrible living in the squalid hellhole that is France. At least that’s what Republicans tell me.

          • Lyly Sirivong

            There are many downsides to living in France. Bureaucracy, economic sluggishness, high unemployment, the pessimism of french people in general… In spite of all that, my parents who came to France more than 40 years ago can never imagine living anywhere else. Not everything is rosy, things can be difficult sometimes, but at least, they can go to the dentist without racking up debts for several generations.

          • Suttree

            I would fit right in. I scowl a lot and I’m pessimistic. I also like hanging out at cafes while drinking and smoking. I can also live off of bread and cheese. Then scowl some more.

      • therblig

        so, they assumed she was telling the truth about who the father was?

  • Serai 1

    He also explained to the informant how he wanted to get his message out to the world: with a message on Facebook, from some untraceable fake account.

    So again, coward. For such supposedly macho dudes, they sure are scared to own up to their supposedly “moral” principles. If this really were such a BIG FUCKING DEAL OMG LET’S SAVE THE COUNTRY, and if he really were such a BIG FUCKING PATRIOT AMERICA UBER ALLES, he’s have the fucking BALLS to blow himself up along with the bank in order to make that BIG FUCKING STATEMENT.

    But he doesn’t. All his yammering about American and the people and yadayadayada is just smoke to hide the fact that he wanted to do this because he’s a bored, directionless asshole without the brains to find his fucking feet in the morning, filled with hate, and resentful that NOBODY WILL FUCK HIM GODDAMMIT.

    • Three Finger Salute

      lol what a moron, he’s a Nazi and he signed up for a website run by a Jewish guy. I bet all his friends are going to be calling him out for what a “cuck” he is. Wait — assumes friends not in existence.

  • Joe Beese

    “He’s missing an empathy gene. It’s just not natural to him,” said former George W. Bush White House speechwriter Peter Wehner. “When people who don’t have empathy try to fake it, it doesn’t come across very well.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/14/donald-trump-john-wayne-charlottesville-241631

    • OrdinaryJoe

      No empathy just a big asshole.

    • gallbladder

      And we all know where lack of empathy tends to drive the world.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Lack of systematizing in Silicon Valley?

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          Ethics in gaming journalism?

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      He not only has no empathy, literally nothing exists in his fetid swamp of a world except himself. Nothing. It is ALWAYS only about him and his fee-fees and his bottomless abyss of insecurity.

  • hendenburg2
    • Joe Beese

      You let the cat out of the bag.

    • Serai 1

      What a darling!

    • Suttree

      Meow meow meow meow purrrrrrs

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      Awwww what a sweetie patootie!

    • tehbaddr

      Cute, but it will still try and eat you if you sleep to long, or pass.

      • Bub, the cynical zombie

        I love cats, and always have, but I don’t kid myself about their nature. Watch these clips – the second last one in particular. That’s a practice kill.

        There’s a reason people keep 150 lb dogs as house pets – but not 150 lb cats.

        https://youtu.be/0XYORmrib3I

    • doktorzoom

      KEEDY!

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef
    • Joe Beese

      That conniving witch!

    • gallbladder

      I was just looking up the definition of “reaching” in the dictionary. Jesus Fucking Christ.

    • Raan

      Ted…We are going to have to have a long fucking talk about what’s newsworthy and what isn’t.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Ted is not in charge, hasn’t been for decades. Time-Warner MBA suits run the place now.

        • Raan

          I honestly forgot about that. And I’ve been watching a lot of Harvey Birdman lately, and the AOL-Time Warner jokes should have been a giveaway.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          If Ted was alive today, he would be spinning in his grave.

          Oh. He is and he is.

    • Serai 1

      JUST WHAT THE FUCK DOES HILLARY HAVE TO DO WITH THAT???

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        Nada. But it’ll drive the clickies. And clickies are all that matters.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          DING DING DING DING DING

        • Suttree

          Some wingnuts have something to jerk off to this evening.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            Why can’t they be like decent regular people and jerk off to mathematical equations?

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          CLICKIE LIVES MATTER!!!111121112!!!!

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Her evil is contagious.

      • Suttree

        Benghaaaaaziiiiiiiii!

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        As the Trump regime totters there is the all-pervasive terror that it will be finally revealed who REALLY won the election and she MUST be undermined!

        • Persistent Demme

          But her speeeeeeches!!

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            So shrill!!!

    • Suttree

      Hillary Clinton’s 1st grade teacher’s uncle’s brother’s second wife’s sister’s brother fucked a watermelon at a party once. How low will Hillary go to get watermelon fucker’s votes?

    • JDM

      Yet for some reason some guy named Donald Trump Jr. has nothing whatsoever to do with a guy named Donald Trump Sr.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Oh my gohd!!!! Another Hillary crime!!!!!! Need investigationz now!!!!!12111

  • Three Finger Salute

    The Moar You Know

    According to Fox —

    Not a terrorist:

    http://www.tattoo-models.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/stupid-tat-choices12.jpg

    Definitely terrorists:

    https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/justin-turdeau-and-baby-justin-trudeau-adam-bilal-2.png

    (yes, including Trudeau, because something something uncreative birther meme about a crypto-Muslim with a sekrit Kenyan Cuban birth sertifikat)

    • gallbladder

      Plausible deniability.

  • Serai 1

    I do not like these stories. These are sad-making stories. So here is something that is happy-making! It will make you very happy!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/14b2f552207f36f7ce81fbd72dc59a919e6bfa3dd8aef6585be8d768412eb595.jpg

    • Suttree

      Awwww. They’re best friends!

  • Juan de Fuca

    “Let me tell you something, pendejo. You got to break a couple of eggs to make an omelet, and if you can’t do that, I’ll take them away from you, stick them up your ass until they go “crack”. Nobody fucks with the Jesus!”

    http://i.imgur.com/jgp4SmQ.gif

    • Serai 1

      Is THAT what he was saying? Holy shit, I never could understand half of that.

    • mancityRed6

      yeah, but…skip to about 1:30
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZR58d77a4A

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        I still have to go with “CHOMER FUCKING SHABBOS” as my favorite moment in all of moviedom.

        • gallbladder

          How John Goodman did not receive an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for that role I’ll never know.

          Eight year-olds, Dude.

  • Jennifer R
    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Yeah – because you’re 2 days late, bright eyes!

    • gallbladder

      You know comrades, it really says a lot about the demise of an empire when its Caesar manages to get official statements like this published.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Donald, I cordially invite you to do a Bannon.

      • Bobathonic

        Is that like a Dirty Sanchez or more like a Rusty Venture?

    • jesterpunk

      You know what Fuckface Von Clownstick if you had made a statement like that first and hadn’t walked away when you where asked to denounce Nazis the media wouldnt be criticizing your ass.

      • mackafritz

        He shouldn’t have had to be asked (or had his arm twisted). Any competent President would have immediately condemned it.

        • Bobathonic

          I remember a competent president.

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            Seems like decades ago, doesn’t it?

            Not even a year.

      • bbayliss

        “You’re the walker awayer, You’re the walker awayer…I’m not the walker awayer.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        “Fuckface Von Clownstick” is more effort that the scum is worth. Even “Scum” is borderline.

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      Fails to condemn white supremacists, but happily calls the news “bad people.” Straight out of Goebbels’ playbook. HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TO ENDURE THIS SHIT?

      • mackafritz

        Until he drags the republican party down with him.

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        As soon as the money men realize the tax cut isn’t coming, they’ll throw him overboard.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        “Bad people.” Nobody with an ounce of wit would say that. They would say something more creative, like “basket of deplorables” or something. Sorry, but that’s already taken.

        Trump is too fucking stupid to have any trace of creativity or wit or sense of humor. Trump is all hate and derp. Such a piece of shit.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      Defend the jacktards, blame the press.

      Fucking Donald Jacktard Trump!

  • Marla

    Domestic terrorism 101. What’s the matter with this guy? Was there no stray animals in his neighborhood he could torture and/or kill? Did he parents not love him enough and throw his birthday parties at the local Chuck E. Cheese? Did Alex Jone$ or David Icke not respond to his homoerotic anti-government emails?

    I’m sure his attorney is already cooking up another “this is Obama’s fault” defense or how this is all “fake news” because the “crisis actors” in his antisocial bank plot were all in Charlottesville waiting to collect their checks from George Soros. So that’s why his patriotic plot failed.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      They’re already screaming entrapment.

      • Marla

        No “false flag” horseshit as of yet?

    • Raan

      Something something something Ruby Ridge, something something something not real money.

  • Was it a Bank of America? I would never support terrorism but Bank of America are some bastards…

    • Marla

      $7 check cashing fee?

      Yeah, that’ll put anyone over the edge.

      • gallbladder

        Are you serious?

        • Marla

          On second thought, I think that was US Bank.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        WHAT!!!??? That’s like what those instant loan places on EVERY FUCKING STREET CORNER IN PHOENIX would charge for cashing a check. Fucking usery!

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Marla

      What gets me about those sound bites is the look on the faces of the Secret Service. “Yeah, he’s a fucking idiot but seeing it’s my job what can you do?”

    • gallbladder

      Two questions:

      1) Was that Darrell Issa behind Drumpf?
      2) Did he blow Drumpf before the presser?

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Yes?

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      That’s speaking Truth to fake power!

  • bookish

    More alt-right rallies scheduled for American cities this coming Saturday.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/the-alt-right-stands-at-a-crossroads/536748/?utm_source=nl-politics-daily-081417

    The events scheduled for this coming Saturday—a “free speech” rally in Boston and marches scheduled in nine cities to protest Google’s firing of an employee who wrote a screed against diversity—will help clarify where all the chaotic elements that comprise the alt-right are headed in the near-term future. (The anti-Google protests are slated for Atlanta, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, Seattle, New York, Washington, Austin, Boston, and Mountain View, California. On Sunday, organizers released a statement condemning violence and insisting that they are “in no way associated with any group who organized” in Charlottesville.)

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      We really need to stop dignifying them as “alt right.” They are white supremacist assholes.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        The are not “alt right”. They are “all wrong”.

    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      Demonstrating to the world, once again, that they don’t understand how free speech works.

    • Marla

      I’m sure the local Home Depots are panicking not knowing if they have enough Tiki torches on hand.

      • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

        I was going to make a comment about replacing the usual tiki torch fuel with {{{redacted}}}, but I’m under warning now.

        I hate my fucking life.

        Oh okay. Replace the fuel with piss. That will have to do.

      • Les Appentis De la résistance

        Its late in the summer. They’ll have to buy snow shovels or Halloween decorations.

        • Marla

          Well, as long as the local Walmart doesn’t run out of Khaki shorts for their mothers to buy them. Otherwise we have complete pandemonium

    • Jenny

      Unfortunately I have the boyfriend and his girls that weekend for the Austin one. AGAIN. This boyfriend stuff is really messing up my libtard protest schedule!

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Ooooo …. the nazis are not gonna find a sympathetic crowd in Boston. A city with thousands of students living there …

      This is not going to end well.

      • TJ Barke

        And Seattle… The PNW is a center of leftist action and organization. They’re looking for more fights.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          “Martyrs! We need some martyrs!”

          They’re itching for a fight … Boston PD will put up with that shit for about one minute. It’ll be ten seconds if any of those nazis even mouths the words “marathon bombing.”

          • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

            Let the phrase “Marathon Arresting” become a thing.

      • Skeptical_thinker

        Boston event canceled by organisers. They claim permits were denied. City says they never applied;

    • TJ Barke

      Institutional oppression of others, which they advocate, is a form of violence. They are, de facto, in favor of violence.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      For every one of these jacktard fests that occur, a confederate monument needs to be razed to the ground. Immediately and at random. After the last confederate monument is razed, we start on digging up confederate officials and officers, incinerating their remains and flushing their ashes down a lonely toilet in a gas station on Interstate 8 somewhere in Arizona. Post the videos of those events on the internet.

      This is just a thought experiment.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      Who is paying for this shit? Hitler was funded by industdrialists for years before he became chancellor.

    • Red Bird

      y-a-w-n

  • Ezio
    • doktorzoom

      Congratulations! You win a reminder to read Wonkette’s very specific rules about not advocating violence or perseverating on how great it would be to beat the shit out of someone, even a Nazi.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • Ezio

        Sorry about that.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Trump Just Called On America To Unite With Nazis And White Supremacists
    By Jason Easley on Mon, Aug 14th, 2017 at 2:26 pm
    Experts responded with outrage as President Trump appeared to call on the rest of the country to unite with Nazis and white supremacists during his updated statement on Charlottesville.

    Steven Goldstein, Executive Director of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect :
    “Though the President finally mentioned, after long, painful three days, the KKK, neo-Nazis and White Supremacists, again he insisted on saying ‘others,’ “And the President made it worse. He said we should all unite, but there’s no way on God’s earth will we ever unite with Nazis. That is not what the Greatest Generation fought and died for. Finally, what planet has the President been living on when he just said we all salute the same flag? We don’t salute the Nazi flag as the White Supremacists in Charlottesville do. He is delusional.”

    • Serai 1

      And anyone who salutes the Confederate flag is just a goddamned traitor. LITERALLY.

  • memzilla Ω

    BREAKING WAPO: “Trump campaign emails show aide’s repeated efforts to set up Russia meetings”

    “Three days after Donald Trump named his campaign foreign policy team in March 2016, the youngest of the new advisers sent an email to seven campaign officials with the subject line: “Meeting with Russian Leadership – Including Putin.”

    The adviser, George Papadopoulos, offered to set up “a meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss US-Russia ties under President Trump,” telling them his Russian contacts welcomed the opportunity, according to internal campaign emails read to The Washington Post.”

  • mancityRed6
    • Beanz&Berryz

      “Nazis. I hate these guys.”

      • Johnny Appleseed

        Classic!

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        “Nazis. They are no doubt kids suffering from depression and economic anxiety.”

    • doktorzoom

      Say, have I mentioned to anyone at all over the last three days that we have some very specific rules against advocating violence, or fantasizing about how much goddamned fun it is to assault people? I think it may have come up.

      Yes, yes, I know, they’re only Nazis, and we had a war, and if it was OK for soldiers in WW II to kill Nazis, then surely it is perfectly fine to fantasize, even advocate, assaulting neo-Nazis, because we’re the good guys, and we get special permission to beat the shit out of people. And I know you, personally, (probably) aren’t REALLY going to punch anyone, but you know what?

      This is not a place where we encourage, tolerate, or fantasize about beating people up.

      There are plenty of other places you can post those sentiments. This is not one of them.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Increasingly Frustrated Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • mancityRed6

        sorry, I thought Dr. Jones would be beyond this.
        my deepest apologies.

        • doktorzoom

          Sorry to have gone a tat long, but you see, your post just happened to be the third or fourth this afternoon on the topic, and I I decided to do it up all big and make it a featured comment because I have been saying this shit all weekend and I’m a little cranky.

          A nap may help.

          No, “MOD’S ASLEEP, POST CALLS FOR PUNCHING NAZIS!” would probably not be an appropriate response.

    • doktorzoom

      [Comment deleted by moderator. Yes, I know Indiana Jones is just a movie. The removed meme suggests that punching Nazis is just a grand, amusing idea.]

      • mancityRed6

        I will not argue.

  • La forza del resistino

    Kudos to the Feds for finding 2 method actors in CHS-1 and UCE who didn’t break character and giggle at some point.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    This feels like a waste of resources. Reading the complaint, this kid seems like someone with mental health problems and some pretty horrific ideas — but no real ability, means, or plan — who was nonetheless coaxed along by a very helpful CI. Yeah, he might eventually have done something without the intervention of the CI, but it sure reads like a kid who suffers from depression and has no clue what he is talking about, but sure likes to be the center of attention.

    • Marla

      I don’t believe for one second this asshole is mentally ill. He was more than quite aware of what he was doing by planning wholesale mass murder or innocent civilians. He is a terrorist and nothing but a terrorist and I hope he rots away in 4X8 cell in Supermax in Colorado

      • Serai 1
      • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

        Oh, one can be mentally ill and still frighteningly aware of what they’re doing. Look at the likes of Ted Bundy and Denis Rader.

        Mental illness has never precluded culpability in this country. I’m mentally ill, properly diagnosed when I was four years old. I’m still responsible for my actions and still subject to criminal liability. So let it be with this clown,

        • Marla

          Just because you were clinical diagnosed doesn’t give you any reign in diagnosing others. And to simply say that of this guy does a huge disservice to those who are mentally ill.

          • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

            Huh? I didn’t diagnose anyone.

    • gallbladder

      “…a kid who suffers from depression and has no clue what he is talking about, but sure likes to be the center of attention…”

      Sounds like somebody else we all know…

    • MynameisBlarney

      No, no, NO!
      We’re NOT gonna use the “mentally ill lone wolf” shit are we?

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        I suspect once he is examined, there won’t be much of a case remaining.

      • Serai 1

        I don’t understand this rush to baby these fuckers. They’re criminals and murderers (when they can get their heads out of their asses).

        • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

          Exactly! Legally speaking, even if mental illness is present, it does not absolve one of criminal liability. If it did, then the prison system would not be considered the largest mental health care system in the country.

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      I refuse to give this jacktard a mental-illness ticket until he is examined by a professional and he is confirmed to have a mental illness.

      Whether mentally ill or not, he needs to be kept someplace where he cannot make any attempts at hurting others.

    • Serai 1

      None of that is an excuse for terrorism and attempted murder.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        It wouldn’t be the first time the FBI has created a terror plot where one didn’t exist because they didn’t want to dump a bad investigation.

        • Serai 1

          Why are you making excuses for someone who deliberately set out to commit murder?

          • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

            Indeed.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            I’m not acquitting him or convicting him yet. I made no judgement. I merely suggested that the investigation seemed like a waste of resources, since he had no apparent ability to construct a bomb.

    • Jenny

      I blame it on those video games these kids play now a days!!!

      (I don’t.)

    • h4rr4r

      Plenty of kids fitting that description went on to do something awful. Plenty of them are also fine people. They gave him plenty of chances to call it off. He proved which he was.

    • Three Finger Salute

      As someone who myself suffers from mental illness, this is why I actually want out of this life. The symptoms are bad enough, but the shame is what makes it 1000x worse. I’m tired of being lumped in with violent assholes who use “mental illness” as a get-out-of-jail-free scapegoat card, and the cowardly media for perpetuating the stigma. No. #NotAllDepressives and the news needs to fucking STOP conflating the two already.

      It won’t happen, of course, because that would actually require America to 1) acknowledge that it has a yooge white-supremacy problem from day 1 and 2) maybe, just maybe, tell Wayne LaPierre to fuck right off so we can get rid of that pesky, outdated 2A and begin repairing our sick gun culture.

      So I’m stuck with an illness that people associate with violent Nazis. Great. I’ve said it before: if you have cancer, people take up a collection can; if you have mental illness, people start running the other way and putting the FBI tipline on their speed dial. Anyone with some fentanyl to spare, please send it my way. I’m so ashamed and I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        This is the EXACT shit that makes me want to break all the rules for radicals. Mental illness is NOT a free walk, you slimy fucks!

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          I certainly don’t advocate that it is a “free walk.” I also know from experience that CIs, undercover cops, etc. focus on the person who they believe will be easiest to manipulate. Being best friends with the kid who has no friends is one of their favorite tactics. They have gotten people to do all kinds of stuff — even gotten people to confess to crimes they didn’t commit — by manipulating them.

        • Three Finger Salute

          About the furthest thing from it, in fact. If anything it’s a cross that no one should be forced to bear. I really am in favor of legal euthanasia for it, like Belgium allows. I was disappointed by the way the Canadian bill went (it was very watered down compared to what the courts recommended); I think Trudeau needs to not let his personal life affect his political decisions, and apparently the whole case was a clusterfuck that was given only a tiny window of time to get something rushed through Parliament shortly after a very long and exhausting federal election that expended a shit ton of resources for the country to begin with.

          That said, at least there’s a framework in place there that can be tweaked, and the door is open to one of the provinces or a private citizen filing a court case to have the law expanded. They’re more open to individual choice and rights in a humane sense than the US is. So maybe it’ll come someday. For now the only hope is Belgium, and that’s not an option. Failing that, somebody pass the fentanyl…

      • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

        I understand. It’s so frustrating not to have one’s condition understood and then be stigmatized on top of that.
        You have no more to be ashamed about than that theoretical cancer victim you mentioned.

      • Serai 1

        Yes, THIS. I’m sick of hearing how some lunatic asshole who specifically SAYS he wants to blow shit up and it doesn’t MATTER if he kills people is “just a poor boy and nobody loves him HE’S JUST A POOR BOY FROM A POOR FAMILY”. Yeah, NO. Blowing shit up is blowing shit up, and killing people is killing people, and I’m sorry, this was not some “kid” – this was a fully grown human being who was taught that killing is bad IN FUCKING GRADE SCHOOL but decided to ignore the lesson. FUCK HIM.

        And yes, depression does NOT make people go on killing sprees. That assumption is just fucking INSULTING.

      • Red Bird

        When the police say that they couldn’t do anything at the Charlottesville rally because the attendees had more guns than they did, you have a gun problem.

        • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

          No fucking shit.

        • Msgr_MΩment

          And why did the attendees have so many guns? So that they could cow the cops.
          Mission Accomplished, Mr. LaPierre.

    • Swampgas_Man

      Sorry dude, the mob wants blood.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Mobs always do. Usually before they’ve heard the evidence.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Ahh… every terrorist has a good reason… best to let them do it first? Nice and clean case, for sure, and not just measly conspiracy stuff… Good, full-blooded murder… Cuz, once he figures out that a bomb is hard to build, he might figure out that a car or truck is easy to drive.

        • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

          Where’s the evidence, besides your own interpretation, that the kid suffers from depression, has no clue what he’s talking about, but sure likes to be the center of attention?

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            Once again, I’m not saying he’s guilty or innocent. I’m saying that this investigation looks like a waste of resources. Until the FBI came on board, he had neither the knowledge nor the materials to build a bomb.

      • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

        I don’t want blood but saying that this was a waste of resources because this man (he’s 23 years old, that’s not a kid, for Chrissake) probably wouldn’t have done anything is asinine.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      We had a would-be bomber here in Portland a few years ago try to assplode a bomb at the annual city center Xmas tree lighting – where a little Miss Bz&Bz was. The bomber dope had a hundred potential outs, but persisted in wanting to murder people. FBI scammed him good… He earned his 30-year sentence… And being a bummed stupid fuck is no defense.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Portland_car_bomb_plot

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Mohamud is a good example. Yes, he belongs in prison. Would he be there without a year of “Bill Smith” (aka Special Agent Jason Dodd) prodding him toward militancy after the FBI — who had him under surveillance as early as 2008 — concluded he was “manipulable” and “conflicted”? Another Special Agent concluded in 2009 that he had “left behind his radical thinking.”

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Hmmm. I don’t know the details of the sequence of his involvement with the undercover agent. I strongly feel that even a young adult has the responsibility to step away from involvement in activities that are wrong. To lack the judgment or moral compass to be able to figure that out, to figure out that murdering a bunch of random innocent people is something not to do, is no legal defense to charges from trying to blow-up those people. Even without little Miss Bz&Bz there, his pushing the detonator button a few times puts him squarely in the guilty category.

          To say otherwise is to legitimize every other participant in a crime who isn’t the primary driver of the crime. Lacking friends, just going along, feeling lonely, being overly political, needing the money… none of the excuses count. For me, any deliberate participation in an attempted mass murder warrants a fair trial and a long-assed prison sentence…

          People need to raise their kids better if they don’t want them in Federal prison for 30 years for attempting top blow-up a bunch of people.

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            Despite what you may have heard, I am not in favor of killing people or setting off bombs. I am also not in favor of the FBI’s use of “preventive prosecution” because they have repeatedly, unabashedly incited people to commit crimes. Perhaps they prevented a crime. Perhaps they created one. There is no way to know — but it is unnecessary. They are perfectly capable of preventing criminal activity without helping the person they are investigating along.

  • tehbaddr
  • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

    Jacktard with ring in his nose thinks he is a big bad bull. Wrong. He is a steer. A really stupid, hateful jacktard steer.

    • OutOfOrbit

      “neut” correcter

  • HazooToo

    I feel aggressive. I feel very aggressive. Towards specific people. In ways that my conscience seems to have no trouble accepting. Someone please send funnies.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    I’m surprised they say they have no legal basis to terminate his employment. Sure, expelling him is probably not an option. But his employment is probably at-will, so he has no right to continue in that.

    https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/897226054305169409

    • h4rr4r

      The University likely has rules against firing anyone for any protected speech.

      • Bobathonic

        Now document some actions…

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        But the University, like my employer, has rules that govern employees engaging in off-the-job conduct that is detrimental to the interests of the employer.

        • h4rr4r

          Universities tend to be very careful around this issue.

          I bet they start documenting every little slip up he has.

  • Doug Langley

    Went back to the salt mines today. Noticed the other girls were gone from the file rooms. Boss told me Friday was their last day, now they get to go to school. Didn’t know that. Maybe that’s why they were so cheerful

    So now I’m the only one filing stuff. And boss is stressed out. Seems we’ve got about 20 things all at the same time, and it would take Hercules just to keep up. Or something. So she’s snapping at me. (She’s gotta be nice to the people ordering files.) I say “Okay, I finished filing that stack” and she’s “There’s another.” Just like that. I’m trying not to freak out and speed up cuz I know that’d be a disaster, but her anxiety is pretty contagious.

    Related note: a friend gave me $40 for gas today. Very grateful.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Breathe deep, read Wonkette, and cash the checks. We all do what we have to do sometime in our lives.

      • Doug Langley

        I started toying with the possibility that once Social Security starts trickling in, I’ll finally be financially able to go to college to teach again.

  • Lyly Sirivong
    • Bill D. Burger
      • gallbladder
        • Doug Langley

          Wild Wild West libelz!!!!!

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        Kristikinacht

        • Bill D. Burger

          Or “Kristolnacht'”?

          __ as in Bill? ;)

          • MynameisBlarney

            I’m no fan of Bill Kristol, but I’m pretty sure he hates these nazi fucktards as much as we do.

          • marxalot

            Kitschstallnacht?

          • Sedagive ’em Hell

            Many thumbs.

          • Joe Beese

            Mrs. Beese, who is not Jewish, calls Crystal Light “Crystalnacht”.

            As a Jew, I express token disapproval of this. But she knows that I find it amusing.

            As I’ve always said, the ultimate triumph of the Jews over Hitler is that that their descendants are able to laugh at him.

      • kareemachan

        Looks like they stopped by Party City for appropriate garb to go with the torches…

      • georgiaburning

        Spring Break- Alpha Upsilon?

      • Persistent Demme

        Wonderful!
        I can’t decide which is better: the coconut bra/belly combo or the huge shades!
        Thanks!

    • Red Bird

      I really like how they specified the intended purpose of a tiki torch.

    • Stulexington

      Also too it says on the package not to carry them lit! Why won’t Nazis read the warning labels??!!

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    I once read a short story by Nathaniel Hawthorne called Young Goodman Brown. The premise is that the titular character is walking through the forrest and he meets the Devil. The Devil then guides him to a Witches Sabbat where he sees or is shown a vision of all his neighbors worshipping Satan. He then returns home but is unsure if he saw was the truth or a lie. He dies a bitter angry old man who distrusts everyone and everything. I been thinking about that story a lot since Nov. I feel like Goodman Brown sometimes i am not sure i can trust anyone around me anymore. I see a random person and wonder if they voted for Trump. I feel like its poisoning me , this paranoid distrust of people. Does anyone feel like this?

    • AJ Milne

      More than a little, on and off, yeah.

      Try to think of the good ones. The people who are fighting. The people who, when things go sideways, turn up, and try to make it better anyway. Get discouraged, it’s natural, fine, just get up again.

      But I’m pretty sure I know exactly what you mean.

    • Three Finger Salute

      I remember that story from freshman English class too, and I’ve only increased my distrust of everyone (which already existed because of my shit family) since November. I never liked myself all that much to begin with either, and now I hate myself even more because I’m officially lumped in with these guys in the court of public opinion (the press always reports these types as “mentally ill”). About the one thing I could ever agree with about Germany was that a life with mental illness isn’t a life worth living at all. They went about it in a really awful manner, but I wish the U.S. government had made my mother abort me or just sterilized my ancestors coming off the boat. Failing that, I wish there were suicide booths available for anyone who wanted to use them. I’m so ashamed and I don’t even want to leave the house or breathe air anymore. Ich bin Lebensunwertes leben.

      • Zombishroom

        Hey TFS, for what it’s worth, I’d miss your comments if you were gone. We’ll probably make it through this.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Having fought through mental health issues for all of my 20s and early 30s, I understand where you’re coming from, and I encourage you to focus some of your piercing intellect on your own well being. You make a tremendous contribution here every time you post and the world is in dire need of more people like you. I recommend the work of Albert Ellis, The Guide to Rational Living helped me and many others I know.
        *I send love and hope your direction*

    • Suttree

      Yeah, a bit. I don’t get too down on it though. If I find out they are a Turnip voter I can just offer them a complimentary bag of lightly salted rat dicks. Then go on my way. Fuck ’em.

      • OutOfOrbit

        yeah

    • DrBigHead

      What has depressed me are the people who’s support of Trump was unexpected, folk I never would have guessed would have been swayed by his rhetoric.. Many of these people continue to support him in spite of the growing evidence that he is an unhinged racist. That makes me sad and frightened.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Many, many Wonkette articles ago, I wrote about someone I respected announcing their support for trump. I was … appalled, saddened, and, now, disillusioned. The thought that someone you know and respect would place party before country and endorse a fucking juvenile con man just ruined this person to me.

        It sucks.

        • DrBigHead

          I’m with ya.

          • OutOfOrbit

            mee too

        • Vel Venturi

          Same here.

        • SpideySenser

          I understand. It was amazing to me how many people I know came out of the woodwork as Agent Orange supporters when he won. I now take satisfaction in thinking that he’s going down and they were played by that con. Perhaps as the country tears it self apart a few may even be humbled if only a wee bit.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Or maybe they always supported him because he’s a racist and they were just waiting for the “right time” to reveal publicly that they are too.

        I don’t think humans are the civilized animals. I’m at a point where I think we’re an invasive species and the world’s #1 apex predator — hostile not only to the environment and other animals but even to our own kind. Not even for survival either, but for that uniquely human trait known as shits-and-giggles.

        You never see horses “segregating” by color, i.e. white horses refusing to let black horses graze in the same field. You don’t see nationalism among Indian, Asian and African elephants. Black bears, brown bears and polar bears can and do live together and have cubs. Male penguins even bond with other male penguins. Were it not for humans, such a thing as purebred cats and dogs wouldn’t exist either.

        You know what, just unleash the plague already and get it over with. People have really fucked shit up. As Mark Twain (and it was Mark Twain) said, “the more I see of people, the more I love my dog.” I don’t have a dog or any furry/feathered/fuzzy companions but I’m all done with this lesser primate species nonetheless.

        • DrBigHead

          I think your first sentence describes my sadness perfectly. However, I refuse to go as far as your last paragraph. Have seen too much goodness, often in the face of terrible tragedy and loss. And while it maybe trite and cliché-ridden, if my attitude reaches that low point, then the motherfuckers have won.

        • Red Bird

          To take it a step further, were it not for humans, there would be no such thing as livestock/domesticated cattle, fowl or swine.

        • Persistent Demme

          I think the way you see people is in your “makeup” (whatever that is).
          I was sure that Hillary would win, and one of the reasons was that I was sure that people would see through the Trump lies and hypocrisy.
          I was dead wrong, but I STILL find a lot that is hopeful.
          It is as though I can’t help it.

          You’re so right about animals.
          In fact, lawyer-daughter got a rescue puppy right after the election.
          She wanted something positive and loving in her life.
          I’d be so much “poorer” without my two dogs.

          I hope you have a pet.

    • Sedagive ’em Hell

      Yep. I find myself looking at certain folks and thinking “is this one of our dumbass homegrown Nazi wannabes?” Being of the Hebrew persuasion myself, it feels a little too much like the worst of our recent history. I hate feeling this way.

      But I work with a local Resistance group; it really, really helps to work together to punch Nazis (rhetorically – for now).

    • MynameisBlarney

      It’s not a paranoid distrust of people in my case, it’s more like a slow simmering anger that they voted for him.
      I’m especially angry at my friends and family that voted for him.
      I don’t talk to them anymore.

    • OutOfOrbit

      try not worrying about ppl who you cannut label for sure

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      There’s no reason to think about it all the time–it just sucks up your energy. But I will admit that I had to make a research trip as a young grad student in the 1970s, to West AND East Germany, and couldn’t see anyone over the age of 40 or so without horrifying myself about who they’d likely been less thirty years earlier. “Are you the one who caused my family to be slaughtered? Were you the one who got my grandmother deported to Auschwitz?” It wasn’t a relaxing trip. It made it worse that the Russians had exacted deserved revenge on East Germany, nothing had been built since before the war other than giant fascist towering buildings redolent of Albert Speer, there were no ads or anything consumerist so everything was 1930s vintage, including the cobblestone streets, 1930s buildings (especially out in the smaller towns) and giant fascist buildings, in essentially grey, black, and white except for the giant red hammer-and-sickle banners. Terrifying.

      But now, I honestly think most Americans are decent, even the ignorant ones, and we should take solace from the fact that there is this swift backlash and horror, even if it’s taking most of them a really, really, really long time to wake up, and they still haven’t really. Americans are complacent.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      FOX News watchers.

    • rosenbomb

      I just returned from a trip to Mexico and found myself wanting to wear a sign that said “I voted for Hillary” the entire time. Not because anything the locals did– they were all great. It was seeing other white people enjoying themselves in a beautiful country, and me knowing that at any moment some of those people were Trump voters.

      • Three Finger Salute

        That’s kind of the same thing as the fake-Canadian meme. People would go backpacking through Europe wearing hockey jerseys and maple leaf patches. Ironically, it started during Vietnam, when Nixon was president — and Pierre Trudeau was the man in the top job up on Parliament Hill (with Justin the newborn baby).

        By this time, the foreigners have gotten wise to the fact that the American fake-Canadians are the ones who let everyone know they’re SO VERY CANADIAN. Now it’s just a signal that you’re an American liberal living under an occupation regime again.

        And of course, you can wear two Trudeau pins now (“Trudeaumania ’68″/”Trudeau II: Because it’s 2015”), but because everyone knows you’re an American, you might as well just wear a shirt that reads, in yuge letters, SORRY.

    • Persistent Demme

      The Trumpsters are a lost cause, and fuck them, (I have relatives that I will never speak to again).
      You are not alone in this paranoid distrust.
      Maybe it’s easier for me, since I live in liberal San Francisco.
      (However, it’s gonna be a bloodbath when the Dems here duke it out.)

      But when I heard a very good friend of mine say she was gonna vote for Jill Stein as a “protest vote,” I nearly hyperventilated.
      OK, we live in CA, so it didn’t matter.
      But what if we’d lived in Pennsylvania?

    • msanthrope

      Totally. It’s just new for white people. My friends of color remind me that this is always what it’s been like for them when they see a random white person.

  • Mr. Blobfish
    • Three Finger Salute

      Isn’t that the epitome of the grandfather paradox? You can’t abort yourself…

    • OutOfOrbit

      tRump would beg to suck him off and love swallowing the poison

  • bookish

    Emboldened alt-right plans more public events.

    http://nypost.com/2017/08/14/white-nationalists-we-are-going-to-start-doing-this-nonstop/

    “We’re going to be more active than ever before,” Matthew Heimbach, a white nationalist leader, said Monday

    • Suttree

      Good. People will get bored with you and go back to ignoring your stupid asses.

  • Jennifer R

    Playing shadowrun, so far we met talked to some homeless people next to where we are going to rob the coffee delivery, then I called my dealer, bought some tempo, and sold the paydata I found for a sweet 1000 nuyen.
    The plan now is to steal the truck too, because hey free truck! Also the Mr Johnston says he is an auto mechanic and can strip out the beacons for us.

    • Stulexington

      Make sure you get a firm quote in advance, otherwise you might find you’ve just given Mr. Johnston a free truck.

  • Mavenmaven

    Perhaps there needs to be more police surveillance in white areas, more cooperation with white leaders, and more of an overall attempt to persuade white communities to turn in possible radicalized whites to the authorities.

    • gallbladder

      Perhaps?

    • OutOfOrbit

      how DARE you…uh…um…
      got nuttin here
      carry on

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      I’m for stop and frisk

      • Suttree

        Feeling lonely? :)

    • kareemachan

      Well, that won’t happen. drumpster nixed Obama’s program to try to steer these kind of people in a better direction.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      We all look alike, so it’s difficult to know who to report…suspect was wearing khakis and a Polo shirt, may be armed with golf clubs and a sense of entitlement… APB to units near The Olive Garden.

      • georgiaburning

        Any tech trade show needs to be searched

    • SisterArtemis

      I know where you’re coming from, and let me say as one of the pastiest beige peeps on the planet, I think that may be a good idea. A very good idea.

      I liked this one too:
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24d37901659223365908aadc5b678111b545d81518beebdec1736d225de29b32.jpg

    • Stulexington

      It’s also too males, maybe we could have more of a police presence in male gathering areas, maybe even implement some sort of stop and frisk program, you know to increase overall police presence and reach out to the community.

  • ltmcdies

    Is there some reason American right wing bombers hate Oklahoma City in particular or is just dumb luck?

    • OutOfOrbit

      one bad apple?

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Lunatic population density + low on gas money?

    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      I read that he approved of Timothy McVeigh’s actions so–copycat.

    • gallbladder

      I’d venture that it has something to do with lack of imagination (see: fucktards dressed as Drumpf at yesterday’s anti-white oppression rally.)

      • Suttree

        Ixnay onay ardtay

    • bbayliss

      it’s in oklahoma and insists it’s a “city”

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      Locals who cain’t think of nowhere else?

      • Suttree

        I’d be pissed if I lived in OK also.

    • clubseal

      Right? I feel as though, I don’t know, Washington, D.C. would be more symbolic? Maybe symbolism is lost on backwoods numbnuts who think they should kill innocent people because they don’t like taxes.

      • Ms.Moon

        New York has the national guard with dogs and huge guns so they have to stay in Oklahoma City we don’t need those crazies.

    • georgiaburning

      Within one tank of gas from where they live?

  • Joe Beese

    Taylor Swift is now even richer.

    https://twitter.com/AP/status/897228753574793217

    • Doug Langley

      “Can you break a 10?”

    • gallbladder

      Wow, talk about ROI for the state!

      • Joe Beese

        Yeah, three cheers for ass-grab justice, but the courts are too limited a public resource to be spent on symbolic lawsuits. I’d rather she have sued him for a real amount and donate the damages to women’s shelters or something.

        • gallbladder

          Bingo.

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          It’s a little more complex – Swift counter-sued, so the case was already going to trial because he sued her first (the jury heard all the claims at once, ruled against him on the claims he brought, and then against him on the counter-suit). And she had stated that anything she got over the $1 would be donated to charity.

          • Joe Beese

            Thanks for the explanation.

            The guy is probably judgment proof anyway. Perhaps he’ll write an OJ style book: If I Grabbed It.

    • SeeTrain65

      “The court finds sufficient the defendant’s request to pay the plaintiff with two 50 cent Frosties from Wendy’s, for a limited time only.”

    • ⭐️ BRAINTHRUST 5000 ⭐️

      In case it’s not clear: she was counter-suing him for a token amount, because he sued her for millions for saying he groped her.

  • kareemachan

    Blowing up FB would cripple the government? I’m not so sure about that, but don’t give anybody ideas about Twitter…

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      Nothing could improve the world more than blowing up Twitter and starting over, with decent moderating.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Or just get rid of it. All of them. The whole GRIFT axis of evil. Google, Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. Literally nothing good has ever come from any of these superfund sites. Garbage. Sad.

        • Swampgas_Man

          Hey, Google taught me a lot!

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          I’d certainly have a lot more time left in my day.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Well, blowing up twitter would stymie the Orange Dickwad-in-Chief…

  • bookish

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-campaign-emails-show-aides-repeated-efforts-to-set-up-russia-meetings/2017/08/14/54d08da6-7dc2-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?utm_term=.6a04015f0339

    Three days after Donald Trump named his campaign foreign policy team in March 2016, the youngest of the new advisers sent an email to seven campaign officials with the subject line: “Meeting with Russian Leadership – Including Putin.”

    The adviser, George Papadopoulos, offered to set up “a meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss US-Russia ties under President Trump,” telling them his Russian contacts welcomed the opportunity, according to internal campaign emails read to The Washington Post.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Where were Ma’am and Webster?

  • Picabo

    I am posting this to contribute a personal perspective.

    I was a young teenager on May 4, 1970 when the Kent State massacre occurred. The Ohio National Guard opened fire with M-1 rifles on students at Kent State. Governor Jim Rhodes had ordered the National Guard to deploy into Kent, Ohio. It was state terrorism, period.
    Today I see a lot of push back from the events in Charlottesville. I did not see that after Kent State. There are rays of sunshine behind the dark cloud today that I did not see in 1970.

    I have more hope for the future than I did then. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c64d7ff8a326a04be4b80890eab788980728c504eac37b3509b85e2886204386.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/965d380819797a498bdf1be8a6fb7185ee9c4eaa1cb567098cc0f4ea9fae2533.jpg

  • Red Bird

    The 1%, the 2%, the 3%, everyone is a percent these days.

    • Anna Rompage

      Let’s not forget the 47%

      • gallbladder

        Mitt, is that you?

      • Red Bird

        Or the 53%

    • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

      I’m 1.21 gigawatts… of awesome!

    • Swampgas_Man

      And Rump’s current 34%.

  • Jennifer R
    • Joe Beese

      Silenced all my life!

  • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist
    • gallbladder

      Bad.

      • CripesAmighty

        Brolly Bunny.

    • Joe Beese

      I’ve got nothing good to say about this guy.

    • CripesAmighty

      This fucker just. Cant. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. (Except when expected to demonstrate a shred of civilized behavior. Then–crickets.)

      • mancityRed6

        it will be Mueller or one of his team that says, “let me introduce this into evidence” and it will be one of his tweets.

      • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

        It’s like he got an A for effort and is going to bitch until they add a plus.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      It’s always about him. Always. No matter what happens, it’s never not about him.

    • therblig

      fucking pussy

  • AJ Milne

    Final/saddish kitten sitting update: our young charge went back to her soon-to-be-permanent owners today.

    We’re all already missing her. Were joking up to the pickup, even seen coming from days away, hey, let’s just lie, hide her somewhere, say she ran away… And not entirely joking, even knowing we couldn’t possibly be that awful to those who would miss her every bit as much. And reality is: crowded house, busy lives, two cats is already kinda near the red line of practical. And this was the arrangement.

    Anyway: last cuteness, napping contentedly yesterday afternoon: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d7210fbb9333e004f437a215784c2b7baf022be6c7143e5186532a4d72017691.jpg

    • bookish

      Camo kitty.

    • Suttree

      Gah! I am ded now

    • h4rr4r

      2 cats is nothing, says the guy with a totally normal amount of cats.

    • kareemachan

      SQUEE!

    • mancityRed6

      that’s pretty much why I can never volunteer at a shelter.
      the last time it happened, the shelter in Lawrence had a bunch of food stolen so we went and bought some and gave it up.
      I uttered the immortal words, “while we’re here…”
      and picked out the cat that had a “take a look at me” thing on her kennel? cage? since she had a wonky eye and had been there since May
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4353279fa23745ded38269ddb13e00338ed44a62c9445351a31c5e6b47f5c7d1.jpg

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Just LOOK at that pretty kitty! Had the same thing happen at Pets Mart…stopped for a bigger litter box for Tubbers and brought home Lucille (after a week waiting period, 2 references and a home inspection), she snif fed the Mr’s beard and that was all it took.

        • mancityRed6

          that’s also how the ex and I got Middie.
          “hey, look at that dog”
          petco, ’10.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      That is going to be a BIG kitty. Just look at those paws.

      • therblig

        they do seem a bit on the moosey side.

        • AJ Milne

          Yeah. Think she’s going to be big. Swear she grew several inches just this week.

          And _so_ energetic/friendly/scrappy. Our own cats were also rescues, but I remember them being a lot more timid about people, and we got them at seven weeks. Strongly suspect they had a pretty shitty experience prior to our getting them (they’re _still_ a bit nervous of brooms). Dunno if it’s just this little one was adopted so young (two weeks, originally, apparently, think the mother had left or died), but she was a _lot_ happier with people. Two modes, pretty much. Playing or sleeping.

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Give them a painted guinea pig and run!!! She’s too cute! I could never foster. I come from a family where having a dozen cats is considered “settled.”

    • therblig

      i think that’s why we never fostered. whenever we took in another stray, we’d always say, “we’ll find it a good home”.

      suddenly, we had 3 dogs and 4 cats.

      and while winter nights were always cozy with 9 of us in bed, as we had to let go, we didn’t always replace. still, in our 32 years here, there has never been a time when there hasn’t been at least one critter padding about. holding steady at 1 dog and 2 cats, but thinking of a puppy companion for gary, the prison poodle.

    • Shibusa
      • AJ Milne

        Awww.

  • bookish

    https://www.thenation.com/article/could-paul-manafort-bring-down-the-whole-trump-family/

    The reason Manafort is the first and most overt target of Mueller’s high-powered inquiry is that he sits atop a massive tangle of ties to Russia, pro-Russian Ukrainians, and shady New York real-estate deals. Any one of those could pop up like a jack-in-the-box in Mueller’s offices, leading to criminal charges against Manafort—who, you’ll recall, was campaign manager for Donald Trump last year. And, were that to happen, it’s possible that Manafort—who isn’t really part of Trump’s inner circle, which consists of his sons, his daughter, and his son-in-law—would “flip,” telling what he knows about Trump’s Russia connections in exchange for immunity. So far, at least, Manafort’s spokesman says that Manafort is not a “cooperating witness”—that is, that he is not providing testimony to Mueller and the FBI against others, only that he is cooperating with the special counsel. So far.

    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.meme.am%2Finstances%2F52295551.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhe.memegenerator.net%2Finstance%2F52295551&docid=4hl53j8ZzqhrdM&tbnid=P7RCEYyCpEtUbM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjFurOj69fVAhULl1QKHe2bCEAQMwg-KAUwBQ..i&w=1024&h=768&itg=1&hl=en&bih=672&biw=1024&q=captain%20shes%20gonna%20blow&ved=0ahUKEwjFurOj69fVAhULl1QKHe2bCEAQMwg-KAUwBQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

  • marxalot

    I have a screenplay for the Cohen brothers, but it takes place in early 70s Dallas, entirely during the day because The Pitiless Gaze of the Sun.
    And no one kills the stripper.

  • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution
  • Juan de Fuca

    The officer stands calmly as a group of white supremacists act out behind him. One man’s outstretched right arm signals a Nazi salute. Another wears a red hood. A third rests a Confederate flag on his shoulder.

    The provocative scene that Saturday afternoon in Charlottesville, captured with an iPhone, was shared with a modest public following but would attract a wide audience. “Confederate flags, Nazi salutes, and Klansmen having their rights protected by a black police officer,” reads a tweet posted on Aug. 12 by Ubadah Sabbagh, a Ph.D. student at Virginia Tech. “This picture hurts.” James P. O’Neill, commissioner of the New York City Police Department, shared the image and commended law enforcement in Charlottesville “for handling today’s events with true professionalism. Much respect.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/af3d829a2c4633271a9c02720daf14795a29b82d1b19f62326c54b19ba9c2c2e.jpg

    • Serai 1

      Where were those “true professionals” when that one guy was getting his ass beaten into the ground in the parking garage?

      • Juan de Fuca

        I think you missed the point.

        • Serai 1

          No, I saw the picture. Yes, it’s ironic. It’s also ironic that the cops are being praised when people were getting the shit kicked out of them and there was no protection to be found.

          • Juan de Fuca

            Nobody is praising the police in this. Like, nobody is doing that. That’s not a thing that is happening right now. It was a picture about something way different from how you see it.

            Nevermind. Agree to disagree.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I have no problem with this picture.

        • Serai 1

          I’m not talking about the picture. I’m talking about the quote.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            As you wish.

  • FUN QUIZZ!

    DO YOU PREFER (A) BETA MALES:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41e5fe57dd9c1b3d11da3c65134f52c609323191e2f8b96b3267281afc1afdb4.jpg

    OR (B) BETTA MALES

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/562b4d049d2beba1b9d47e614c879856c8ca8a3b3b3ffc795457458b20e1ccf8.jpg

    IF YOU PICKED ‘BETTA MALES’ YOU MIGHT BE A FISH FANCIER!

    THANKS FOR PLAYING

    • gallbladder

      Bettas. Definitely.

    • Fish are only for slapping

    • marxalot

      Burt Ward was hot.

      -friendly neighborhood genderqueer

      • Serai 1

        And hung. He’ll tell you that himself.

      • I like the stories he used to tell on TV about what a time the wardrobe people had harnessing his huge tallywacker into those briefs.

        • marxalot

          They had to give him pills bc the Catholic Decency League was worried about it.
          According to Adam West, when they were shooting with any of the Catwomen (Eartha especially), he wished he had some of Burt’s pills, too.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Overheard at the hospital, “I’ll be in the Burt Ward.”

      • If you ask him about it, he’ll happily tell you about his enormous dong, also, too.

    • OutOfOrbit

      testing is not allowed here

    • TJ Barke

      George Michael and Ron Weasley and C3P0 and Milhouse libel!

    • TootsStansbury

      Are bettas betta with batta?

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Butter emails made the batta bitta.

        • TJ Barke

          How’s the weathah theah in Bawstin?

    • Up In Smoke O’hontas

      Just ask if they like fish sticks. But ask very quickly.

    • Red Bird

      C3P0. Am I wrong for saying that?

  • kareemachan
    • Joe Beese

      You don’t just “boot” Nazis. You jackboot them.

  • Serai 1
    • Doug Langley

      Must have been scheduling conflicts. Yes, that’s it.

      • Joe Beese

        Or did he do it at the point of a Jew Weapon??

      • gallbladder

        That or the Dean was wearing plaid at the time of their application.

        • Red Bird

          Huh?

          • gallbladder

            Absurd humour…just go with it.

      • Stulexington

        The entire university will be doing their hair at that time.

    • Red Bird

      Good. I went to school there. The culture is kind and supportive. That guy didn’t belong there.

    • tehbaddr

      Good! drive them back into the shadows, or at least Mom’s basement!

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Don’t forget that these guys are also in love with Trump’s misogyny.

  • Picabo
    • Msgr_MΩment

      Oldtime Nazis weren’t such snowflakes, though.

  • SeeTrain65

    If anyone wants me, I’ll be curled up in the corner, blasting this through my headphones, snarling and barking at passing cars. Night.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0rgmNPWYxs

    • mancityRed6

      best live show ever. saw them in ’11. except for Ace of Spades, they only played b sides. We are the Road Crew, Orgasmatron and others.

      • Zombishroom

        And loudest. I saw them in a smallish stadium high up in the bleachers but my ears rang for two days.

        • mancityRed6

          I brought earplugs. Reverend played, but I missed Nashville Pussy.
          until a few years later, that is.

          • Zombishroom

            Nashville Pussy was so fun!

          • mancityRed6

            when he poured the beer into his hat and drank it, showing off his baldness. bad ass.

    • Joe Beese

      Your bones will build my palaces
      Your eyes will stud my crown

      I know, different song on the record. But, man, that’s badass.

      • SeeTrain65

        That was choice #2.

  • HazooToo

    Got me a 12 hour Twitter time-out for telling someone to fuck off. They can go around encouraging a bloodbath if Trump is impeached, but if I call them on it, well, that’s just not civil.

  • Drinkalong

    Geez…why are these always…always…stupid fucking white men? There is the variable to measure/monitor. When is the last time we read/heard of a POC trying this shit? Pedants can freely bow out.

  • IdiokraticCulturalMarxist
    • Joe Beese

      Even among that scurvy crew, Gorka strikes me as an unfathomably nasty specimen of humanity.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Humanity libel!

      • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

        Dude is a literal nazi, after all, old school Eastern European flavor.

  • Picabo
    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      And the glowing stains, his deplorable voters.

    • Augustus

      I’m not too optimistic, given, but there is no way to heal without exposing the truth fully and honestly… if America is ever to “reach enlightenment,” we must have a painful, soul-searching conversation about the history of African Americans and white racism

      so exposing the disgusting past is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for moving forward

  • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

    Friendly fire down thread is getting intense as hell. Nothing like being jumped on for something you never said.

    • doktorzoom

      Hi. The commenting rules would like to have a word with you about that username, too. Sorry to pile on.

      Not terribly sorry, however.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        I had no idea the name violated the rules. I’ve had it since Saturday with no issue and really don’t see how it violates rule #2 but I’ll change it back to avoid further incident. NP.

        • doktorzoom

          Thanks!

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            NP. I’m really sorry about that, I just got carried away. That’s no excuse, but it happens. Have to rise above the baser instincts and not lose myself out of hatred for a vile ideology. I won’t make this mistake again. It was wrong and not at all what I or Wonkette stands for. Again, I’m very sorry, Dok. Your job is hard enough without having to police the friendlies as well. :(

  • wait! what?

    Fixed it.

    Varnell, who lived with his parents on a farm in Sayre, Oklahoma, where he had his very own bunker basement for when the government collapses…

  • CO
    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Wow. That’s pretty powerful.

      • gallbladder

        The tattoo on the arm…

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      maybe it’s obvious to everyone, but it’s quaduply (a word?) powerful because of course one of the powerful themes of holocaust survivors and jews is “never gain.”

      • tomamitai

        Tacosplainer!

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          sorry, i guess everybody knew that.

          I’m not too bright sometimes.

          • suziq

            Prolly not everyone has heard that expression but goes along with WWII being “the war to end all wars” or whatever they say. Like we learned how horrible war is so we won’t get in that situation again. And yet…it doesn’t take long for people to forget.
            Also too, you have to admit that Tacosplainer is funny!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            yes, actually, tacosplainer was funny.
            ; )

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Hey, who’s been in my living room?…

  • chascates
  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Lifted from down thread …

    https://youtu.be/TRE9vMBBe10

    The event and the song occurred at a very impressionable time in my life … it still bring up a lot of emotion. It was when I realized that good people can die for all the wrong reasons. It brings up memories of my elder brothers grabbing the New York Times to check to see if their number was above or below the draft cutoff.

    It is this that makes us oldes™ a little less accepting of fucking nazis on our streets.

    • Suttree

      It’s messed up. When I was a kid and slipped up in school, my father’s threat was “the only school you’re going to get into is Kent State.”

    • suziq

      I was just having a conversation with a friend Friday evening about being so sickened by the current political climate, but then I said well at least it isn’t like it was in the 60s and we both thought of Kent State.
      And I remember that about the newspaper too with the draft numbers and the evening news had Vietnam War stuff on all the time. This time it is closer to home.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Been there, still doin’ it…but the music still brings a chill of ‘what we must do’….

  • Suttree

    Gah! I keep hitting the top of page button, and forget that there is a close-up of that dude’s face. It’s almost life size on my monitor.

  • Relativicus

    On the plus side, he’ll end up with a much broader understanding of government when all is said and done.

  • Jennifer R

    Well it was my turn to do A Thing so I tried to swap the comlink numbers of two of my teammates. Accidentally set off an alarm on it though.Logged off before she could turn it off and suffer dumpshock (hot simsense).
    The person who rolled 8 successes versus my 2 to hide it was doing a good job of calling me out, until in character I accidently said “No, we are in the middle of nowhere, I’d have to be pretty bored to do that” while waiting for the coffee car to show up.

  • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

    I still wonder what kind of person walks away from Raiders of the Lost Ark thinking “That Ernst Toht was cool as fuck! That’s what I wanna be when I grow up”?

    • CripesAmighty

      Same people who thought Archie Bunker was a role model rather than an object lesson.

      • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

        Some people just totally miss the point.

    • Raan

      The same kind of people who don’t get that Tyler Durden is a delusion and doesn’t actually exist.

  • The Flaming Carrot

    Does the 3% have something to do with the Revolutionary War? Because I once told some right-wing assholes that my ancestor fought in the Revolutionary War (which is true) and they responded by saying that he would beat me up if he were alive today. Because naturally the omniscient right knows that he would have joined their noble crusade against the government, while supporting the government (Trump).

    • Jennifer R

      Yes, it’s from the myth that 3% of the population was in the military during the revolution.

      • The Flaming Carrot

        I wonder if they’re counting Native Americans in the total population. Because the percentage of colonists who volunteered was a helluva lot higher than that. The volunteers got sent to Valley Forge and similar fucked-up places. The pansy-ass professional soldiers who had previously been in the King’s Army got sent to the frontier to kill Injuns so they didn’t have to kill their former colleagues. I’m still trying to clear up the confusion between my ancestor, a private, and an Injun-killing colonel with the same name, from the same general area of Virginia, whose descendants seem to have taken up the entire Internet with their dubious bragging rights.

    • Serai 1

      The three percent thing is apparently based on a bullshit claim that 3% of the population of the American colonies were in the military.

    • Nazi Punchin’ Jack

      Yes, it does, These idiots get their name based on the false belief that only 3% actually fought in the Revolutionary War and they are the direct descendants of that 3%.

  • Joe Beese
    • SisterArtemis

      The link doesn’t go anywhere, Joe. Can you try again? Because, seriously – the Olbermanniest Olberman? I gotta see that.

  • Treg Brown
    • Augustus

      dude, FUCK NO

    • Relativicus

      My favorite part is “although after swimming” because I’m 98% certain she meant “also.”

    • La forza del resistino

      ‘But we will continue to serve food not from a cloesen hoof animal.’

    • Juan de Fuca

      The year of Trump and Brexit? And no offense to SW19Womble but the new guy at work from the UK who I bragged about previously and is also a Brexit supporter? Turns out he’s also racist as fuck. With all the people trying to get into the US, we really needed more RWNJ’s?

    • gallbladder

      The spelling mistake tells me all I need to fucking know…and then some.

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        although…

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      If you can’t read it – someone wrote on the tape above the sign:

      “I’m not a jewish guest and i think it’s very RASCIST!!!”

    • janecita
      • Treg Brown

        Thank you for sharing that Janecita!

  • wait! what?

    Carlos Curbelo juat got all up in Donald’s pantaloons on CNN live.

  • Jennifer R
    • jesterpunk

      Isnt that how they took down the Saddam statue in Iraq? With ropes and lots of people pulling?

      • gallbladder

        What’s good for the goose…

      • Raan

        I think in Iraq they hooked up a tank or an APC or something.

      • TJ Barke

        Actually that was a staged PR stunt.

        • jesterpunk

          Damn, I fell for that and haven’t looked up anything after that aired.

    • Relativicus

      It’s gonna be a long week.

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      I think I am not comfortable with kicks to the statue. Somehow it looks just like the other guys. Toppling it seemed more than enough.

      • SisterArtemis

        I’m with you there. And also, broken toes; guess that’s a reasoon for steel-toed boots.

        But when that thing came down, and people started cheering, I teared up. Still wiping them off.

        • Treg Brown

          Yup.

      • Saxo the Grammarian

        Seems a bit juvenile. Oh well, it’s not like Trump could do any better.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Shit. Nazi assholes show up uninvited to “guard” statues in 3…2…1…
      I think they should go. I’m not sure this is how it should happen.

      • Nazis won’t show up in Durham. Not a known libtard center.

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          We’ve had some incidents like a burning cross that showed up after dark a couple years ago and nazi graffiti that defacing a mural that quickly got painted over as a community event.

      • Shibusa

        Put them in a Civil War museum. They are a part of US history. (Of course, if you put them in anything other than a gun or NASCAR museum, the alt-righties will never see them.)

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          Put them in that corner of Kentucky with the creation museum and that Ark place. Just concentrate the derp in one place

    • TootsStansbury

      Well. Wow, go Durham.

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      Holy crap it’s near where the vigil was yesterday!

    • Treg Brown

      Look at all those beautiful people.

    • georgiaburning

      Melt it down for manhole covers. That way it’s re-purposed in a way that provides value to the city of Durham

  • janecita
    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      “The grill was turned on and the propane tank was open and connected, Lane said.”

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/797b9899944322b38c14b86cdd4b97d8db145a900f2a02d9758f9cc82d18b436.jpg

      • janecita

        It’s Florida:-)

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Do you people test your water down there? It’s gotta be the water … my brother moved down there and went all “Muslims are coming to kill all infidels and take over the US!”

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            psst – it’s the heat/humidity.

          • janecita

            The same thing happened to one of my childhood friends, I can’t even speak to her anymore. I’m glad that I live in Jersey.

  • Jennifer R

    Dear daytime open thread: Just felt like tossing out that today is my birthday. Carry on.

  • La forza del resistino

    Donald ‘I 100% denounce racism’ Trump ‘Seriously Considering’ Pardoning Criminal ‘Sheriff Joe’ Arpaio
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/president-trump-considering-arpaio-pardon

    • jesterpunk
    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      As if we didn’t know everyfuckingthing Trump said today about Cville was bullshit.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Gotta make the sure the white supremacists knows which side he’s really on.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      Arpaio has been playing for that for at least 10 days (at least publicly).

      My guess, they just want him to stop calling.

    • Stulexington

      Donny, you’re whistle is broken, we can all hear it.

  • Raan

    Requesting a ruling, is it a violation of the commenting rules to wish searing gas pain on anyone who parks with more than half of their car in the road in a residential area (AKA my neighbors)?

    • therblig

      abdominal or flaming rag in the filler tube?

      • Raan

        Abdominal. The other kind might set my house on fire.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Depends on the width of the street… can anyone get by?

      • Raan

        Only one at a time, and God forbid an ambulance or fire truck needs to get down the street.

    • Left Coast Tom

      It’s OK as long as you clarify that the searing gas pain should be caused by votes.

    • cheetojeebus

      So, I take it not quite worthy of a cluster of kidney stones?

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      You must wish for karma to sideswipe them while they are sleeping…

  • Serai 1

    Interesting article at the Guardian about how these shitbags get radicalized online, and the culpability shared by social media platforms like FB, Twitter, and especially Youtube.

    James Damore, Google, and the YouTube radicalization of angry white men

    • proudgrampa

      Youtube???

      Call me an innocent. I wouldn’t even know what to search for on Youtube. And I don’t WANT to know, fyi.

      As for the others, proudgramma and I don’t Facebook or Tweet…

      • Serai 1

        I watch vids on YT but I don’t twit and I’ve NEVER wanted to go near FB. Still can’t believe people were stupid enough to fall for that.

    • tehbaddr

      Sure beats having to leave your mom’s basement and face the real world to go connect with “others of like mind”.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      I’m an angry, old white man – I’m pissed that my demographics are mutt-mixed with these assholes…

      • Serai 1

        I’m a human being – I’m pissed that I HAVE TO SHARE DNA WITH THESE FUCKING YAHOOS.

    • This is the old video games made me do it excuse from years past.
      They are radicalized because they want to be. If it were not online, they would get it from their friends or family or follow some prison guy, or whatever, like they had in the past.

      The difference is now they think it is safe for them to crawl out into the sunlight.

      • Serai 1

        Uh, no. Sorry, but that does not parse. The internet is not a postcard, and it’s not a video game. It’s made it possible for people who would NEVER have come together to do so easily. Sure, nice for nice folks, but it also applies to seriously evil people trying to get as many others to be seriously evil as possible. Many of these kids would never have gotten into this shit on their own, because it’s not around them. But it’s on the internet where they can swallow it whole, with no mitigating influences.

        The internet is not some neutral little tool. It grew WITHOUT PROPER SECURITY – in fact, security is the one thing that was actively resisted for a very long time because “inconvenient” and “expensive”. The anonymity that was so lauded as “freedom” is one of the main reasons there’s so much pernicious horror online, and the main reason these evil shits CAN do the evil shit they do. Sorry, but I’m never going to agree that it’s irrelevant or innocent – by its very design, it encourages this kind of fuckery.

  • Bub, the cynical zombie
    • jesterpunk

      I keep joking that when they go to try Trump for treason his lawyers are going to claim Trump only has allegiance for himself and the treason statute applies only to people who have allegiance to the US. Its looking more and more like that might actually not be a joke.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Well, trump doesn’t even know these guys…..they were only on his team for a short while…

    • Bullshit excuse. He does not steer it away from racism because he does not think he owes the people. He doesn’t, but he steers it away because he is a fucking racist.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      The crux of the biscuit, eh Bub?

  • jesterpunk
  • bluicebank

    You had me at the neck beard.

    Unless you’re a Morman from the 1800s navigating across the Rockies into Utah, the neck beard tells me all I need to know.

    Muttonchops, on the other hand, ALWAYS indicate the boy ain’t right, no matter what century. To wit, Martin Van Buren, an idiot:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0347c35b74cf06baa1cbbf17a314e155c26ed834da1fffc44d1e5520343a4b91.jpg

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      This country’s managed to elect a prednisent who surpasses Van Buren in idiocy.

      • bluicebank

        Hell, Donnie’s giving Andrew Jackson (oops, Andrew Johnson, tho Jackson was also an asshole) a run for the money for last place among US presidents.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Last place? I thought the Merkinese put Jimmy Carter dead last because he’s a nice guy! At some point Trump is going to send one of his lackeys on a scavenger hunt for Carter’s Canadian birth certificate…

          • bluicebank

            Aggregate of polling shows Jimmy at 39 out of 45. Dead last are James Buchanan, Warren G Harding, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce and the unfortunately named Millard Fillmore. I’m just going to guess that Millard is on the list because his name suggests something illegal in Georgia.

    • gallbladder
    • Jeff Ackerman

      Looks like he combs his (h)fair with a firecracker.

      oops!

      • bluicebank

        lol, nice typo.

        Tho more foul than fair.

        • Jeff Ackerman

          If you can’t spell a word more than two ways you have no imagination!

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            totally swiping this explanation.

          • bluicebank

            True that. Also a sign of insanity.

    • wait! what?
      • bluicebank

        True, except in the sense of not right vis-a-vis “kicked in the head by a donkey.” Of course, I could be wrong. The white supremacist could’ve simply been dropped on his head when he was a tyke. Let’s ask his mother. She’ll know.

  • Jay Hansen

    More proof that patriotism is methamphetamine for stupid people.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Germany and Chancellor Merkel, you’ll have to take over for us now.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d8d92886aed57f6459e289d91605b4882822d6dfd31b8a6d9e4309ead7dc81ff.jpg

  • Nockular cavity

    “Safety is number one.”

    Unclear on the concept, example #5396.

  • goonemeritus

    So “Loan Wolf”?

  • Jennifer R

    I just hacked the coffee truck, with hot simsense and a point of edge I got a base roll of 27 dice for the Hack on the Fly test, plus four exploded. Passed the extended test in one roll :coal:

    • Raan

      Where are you playing Shadowrun?! #Jealous #NoInternet

      • Jennifer R

        roll20 and discord.

    • proudgrampa

      Jennifer, it’s your birthday. Whatever you’re drinking, I’m glad you’re enjoying it!

      What?

    • tehbaddr

      That is admirable, what you did there! Keep up the good fight! Uh, yeah, whatever it was… you… did.. there?

      • Jennifer R

        It’s the future with cyberware and magic so coffee is rare. People crowd sourced my group to hijack a shipment of raw beans.

  • amrak63

    I don’t feel like scanning through over 770 comments to see if anyone has posted this already:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9wmWZbr_wQ

    • proudgrampa

      At 7 seconds, you could probably show that one a lot!

  • wait! what?

    How long before Donald starts openily asking people in the White House corridors if they’re swastikans or swastikants?

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos
    • What’s he sellin to Vlad cheap?

      • h4rr4r

        What has he not sold him already?

      • YoBunnyBunny

        American souls, probably.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos
      • …..and there it is.
        Hey Donnie, you know who is the bad person? That would be you!

      • aktlib101

        Fuck off, Fuckface !

      • Lyly Sirivong

        Oh here we go… He’s back.

      • KnaveOfSwords

        As the folks at Vox noted, the point of this half-hearted disavowal of nazis days after it should have been done isn’t to actually disavow nazis. It’s to give his colaborators the minimum amount of cover they need to go “well, he disavowed them, so of course we’ll keep working with him” if pressed on the issue.

        Let’s face it, if he’d stuck with refusing to call out Nazis and white supremacists on this, the rats would be fleeing that ship as quickly as possible. But with doing this, Rs now have enough cover to go “He said nazis were bad. Now let’s get back to the important business of murdering the poors and giving all their money to the rich.” (Sort of like how they can point to the one time he kind-of almost said Russian hacking was bad before going back to doing his best to prove that he was an a Russian agent as proof that he’s not in their pocket and is willing to go against them, and why are we still talking about this when there are national parks that haven’t been strip-mined and paved over?)

        And it has the bonus that it lets him, his spox, and RWNJs go “See! Liberals are never going to be satisfied!” when we point out that this was the least sincere disavowal in the history of disavowing things, and that it only happened after he’d been getting pressured on it for days.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          i agree with all of this.

    • aktlib101

      Who gives a fuck what you are doing, shithead?

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Have fun and say hi to the crowds there lined up to greet you!
      https://twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/897241173064114176

    • Suttree

      We don’t want you here!

  • Picabo
    • gallbladder

      Fucking hell.

    • BreakingDeadMen

      Upvoting because he’s in custody

    • Joe Beese

      Can a misdemeanor vandalism charge carry a hate-crime enhancement?

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Sure, @ Jamba Juice.

    • Suttree

      I can’t imagine why someone would think that was a good idea.

  • Left Coast Tom

    Where I camped and went swimming this weekend, Upper Sardine Lake, Ansel Adams Wilderness. The snow-cliff in the second picture is about 20 feet high. The swimming was chilly but not too bad.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d84ac32967c0824174d775cf381dbae16df78119914a231daf83c12f2cd6831.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7efa84ff36916b86b139b592cae19b3b341010d909f6467eec6f8eeed93c4dab.jpg

    • Marla

      Glad you had the chance to experience this before Trump builds one of his shitty hotels there.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    Just because I finally steeled myself to watch some ft hat horrific shit from Saturday. This is so sickening, so heartbreaking.

    I’m really needing some serious cute right now. https://youtu.be/lFQZetbu7X4

    • janecita

      Those two are so freaking cute!!!

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Yep. I’ve watched it 4 times so far.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Say what you will about DPRK, their fat baby-man dictator has a way with the rhetoric. Our own fat baby-man dumbass seems amateurish by comparison.
    https://twitter.com/annafifield/status/897235572187570176

    • AJ Milne

      Nice…

      Mebbe best thing to do is convince both these nuts _that’s_ the field they have to compete on. Don, there’s a _rhetoric gap_. You’re falling behind. Expand your vocabulary. Better, more colourful metaphors! Less ‘bigly’, more ‘monumental’. Kim: more subtle, more veiled, less forties social realism smash the imperialists… Take a new tack, you’ve been drawing in primary colours too long.

      Just think: if we can just keep he and Kim busy at deploying better and more imposing essays, it kills two birds with one stone… Keeps the competition outta the field of fission and/or fusion, _and_ maybe finally gets Trump up to an early high school writing level.

    • Serai 1
  • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

    I am going to take my cigar and tea and go into lurking mode to avoid getting whacked, since I am on warning. Yes, I’m a hypersensitive snowflake. Deal with it.

    And no, I’m not drinking anything at the moment other than black tea.

    This NAZI shit is driving me nuts and I need to go make something. Does anybody need a cabinet, shortwave radio, or custom-made PC? Maybe operating software for a satellite? A diesel engine injection controller? Tactical software for a chaff mortar? Radar ECM?

    If I don’t go and make something, I’ll hit the booze again, and too hard.

    I will still be here. Just quietly so. I’m sure I’ll be commenting again tomorrow.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Take your break. And know that you are respected here.

      Btw, are you good with furnaces? Mine has issues….

    • CindyinEncinitas

      My car is making the most fucked up noise ever. Listen… What is it?

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance
      • proudgrampa

        GAWD, I loved that movie!

        • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

          Have you seen the MST3K version?

          • proudgrampa

            No, but I will now!

    • mackafritz

      Can you make a flux capacitor? I need to make a short trip.

    • georgiaburning

      Tracking software to read squelch codes for chinese-made VHF radios could be very handy.

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      Make something beautiful to counterbalance all the cray-cray.

      It’s good therapy!

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      I know, I’m spending too much time here and I’ve blocked two people today. It will pass, I suppose.

    • eyelashviper

      I could use a time machine, how long will it take?
      Even a cabinet would be nice….

      • Jeff Ackerman

        Oops copied your post.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      Can you make vintage folding camera bellows?

    • janecita
    • doktorzoom

      I could really go for a Pan-Galactic Gargleblaster about now….

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Couldn’t we all?

      • bluicebank

        And unlike Romulan ale, it never starts wars.

        • doktorzoom

          No one would remain conscious to fight.

    • Jeff Ackerman

      I could sure use a time machine….

  • Jennifer R
  • La forza del resistino

    to any Arkansas sportsballers. Frank Broyles calls his final timeout and goes to Hog Heaven at 92.

  • Jeff Mc Donald

    I’m sure this is all a mistake. A nice man, smiling behind a rainbow? How could he possibly have done anything wrong? That would be like saying that there were Nazis who loved there dogs. Impossible!

    • Saxo the Grammarian

      And some of them were vegetarians!

      Vegan Nazi buttholes!

  • Red Bird

    This is the OT so in honor of my tradition, I’m reporting on my progress with my fitness program. I took several weeks off. But I’m starting the resistance training again tonight. Stay safe Wonkette. Keep the faith. Don’t give up. Drink more water. Get more sleep. ;)

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Go strong, Red!!!

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      To sleep, perchance to dream!

      • Red Bird

        Dream about Donnie no doubt. hengh?

  • Up In Smoke O’hontas

    You guys, we’re gonna break Dok and he is gonna turn this blog around SO FAST if we don’t knock off the nazi punching, and then nobody is getting ice cream.
    I have it on good authority that we can wish that their beer always be flat, and warm…a worse fate is out there, perhaps, but i shudder at the thought.
    Also, I’m throwing into the kitty for all the good bloggerin’ they done this weekend.
    Get some rest, Dok!

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Did Dok have to warn more of Us? Damn.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        I’m making my way down thread slowly between planting arbor vitae and slamming beer. Got to his 5th reminder and I started to worry for his sanity…

        • It is a Soros Plot to overthrow the Iluminait by driving Dok insane and then……
          ?
          PROFIT!

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            If Dok gets his Soros bux check before I do at the big Beyonce concert at the abortionplex I’m gonna be SO pissed!

        • WomanInThePersistence

          We really all are in moods. I think the whole Nazi thing is really sinking in. It would be good to have a happy little thread for our Open Thread tonight.

      • mackafritz

        Oh yeah. I got spanked.

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          Is there a penalty box?

          • Up In Smoke O’hontas

            It’s more of a VIP room right now.

      • proudgrampa

        I’m always surprised at some members of our little community. The rules are pretty explicit and, while I get the anger, we need to be civilized.

        Doktor runs a finely-tuned Banhammer machine.

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          Maybe we need a swear jar. Mention That Thing and you have to make a donation.

          • proudgrampa

            If you violate the rules, you’re banned until you send your Ameros to Wonkette! I like it! ;-)

        • puredog

          Dok is a professional cat-herder par excellence.

    • What nazi punching? Did we have one today?

      • doktorzoom

        No. Not exactly one….

    • Hamilton Ω, AKA Formerly DN

      {{{De-lurk}}}

      !!!!!!!!1111111`

      {{{Re-lurk}}}

    • Much more fun to fervently hope they live a very very long life in which not only does everyone around them know just what they are, but that they do as well.

      • The Flaming Carrot

        That’s why I don’t support Nazi tattoo removal.

    • Juan de Fuca

      Am I the only one who read this in an Irish accent?

      • The Flaming Carrot

        Received pronunciation, morphing into Geordie.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Irish or Upper Peninsula of Michigan, which isn’t a wide berth, linguistically. Both are great for describing a hot dish or yellin’ at hoodlums.

        • Juan de Fuca

          It was well played, linguistically.

      • Treg Brown

        Not anymore.

    • puredog

      “wish that their beer always be flat, and warm”
      WITH VOTES!
      (You monster.)

  • therblig

    so, they keep all the paper records AND the carbon copies at that one bank? my god, his plan was diabolical.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      also, their computer files are TOTALLY not backed up in a second location.

      • Stulexington

        RAID facility, how does it work?

      • therblig

        on a floppy disk stuck to the fridge with a magnet.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          with the password to the whole system on a sticky note right next to it.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Lose the carbon copies and you are cooked!

  • Juan de Fuca

    “Varnell referenced the movie Fight Club when he discussed wanting to take down a federal facility or other structures.”

    Dude forgot the first rule of Fight Club.

    • therblig

      and White Club

    • La forza del resistino

      first rule of Hooker Club is always ask your partner in crime if they are a cop.

      • bluicebank

        Same rule when selling meth on Breaking Bad. If the fed guy denies being a copper, he can’t arrest you. Oops.

  • Wookie Monster

    Why do these idjits always claim to want to protect the Constitution but the government created by that same Constitution is illegitimate?

    • Be fair. It is only illegitimate when it is Dem controlled.
      Otherwise it is fine.

      • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

        Sometime in the early teabagger era, someone on Yahoo said “if people don’t like it that means it’s unconstitutional”. I think the only words they know are “we the people”, which means them, so they think “constitutional” means what they say goes.

        • I think they misread it to be “Me the people” myself…..

    • La forza del resistino

      It’s been downhill since someone asked Betsy Ross to sew some gold fringe border to the flag.

      • TJ Barke

        It’s all been downhill since we came down out of the trees.

    • Serai 1

      Because JESUS wrote the Constitution. OBVIOUSLY.

  • memzilla Ω
    • tehbaddr

      Wait for the Nazis to show up, and deplore the action, in three, two,…

      • I am sure Faux will be all about how violent the left are.
        But ten bucks says the Nazis won’t bother showing in Durham. Why? Cause they could prolly think they could not get the huge crowds of counter protesters like at some other places.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          There was a KKK rally years ago in Durham that ended in a gun battle.

          • CripesAmighty

            Close. It was Greensboro.

          • Lefty Wright

            Unfortunately, several of the counterprotesters were shot, five killed others had disabling injuries. All of the klan members were acquitted. Check “Greensboro massacre” for details.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Yeah, I just looked it up. Interesting stuff. I had no idea the police colluded with the Klan. I’d also forgotten that the communists were the ones who were murdered.

          • CripesAmighty

            Yup. Very creepy round those parts back then(1979).

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            That doesn’t feel like that long ago.

    • La forza del resistino

      There are still cannons in Charleston that once fired on Ft Sumter that can be moved around the South. Justice would be a little target practice on these statues.

  • cheetojeebus

    anybody else read that weird as fuck story in NYT about the DPRK missile engines being the same tech as the ones from a former Russian factory on the edge of the Crimea in Ukraine. Putin is an evil fucker.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Even NPR had the story today. The bigger story here might be the lack of timely intel. Remember how when Pakistan got the bomb in the 90s and the CIA was all like, oops?

      • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

        “I can’t move my motorcade from K Street to Connecticut without it showing up on a weather satellite!”

    • Wait.
      Russia sells nuke stuff to NK.
      Russia cuddles with Trump.
      Trump, reluctantly, signs sanctions
      NK threatens US.
      WEIRD COINCIDENCES

    • Serai 1

      Dude, a fuckton of the arms used by evil shitlords around the world also came from US. Putin is not alone in this particular shitbaggery.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        Speaking of which, Lord of War is back on netflix.

      • cheetojeebus

        Oh you’re so right, why just the other day the CIA gave the ability to deliver a thermonuclear warhead to distant lands in an effort to isolate nations and disrupt world peace to numerous hawkish nation states. While I don’t disagree with the posit that we’ve done some serious evil, I’d say we’ve been pretty good about not letting nuclear ability spread easily.

  • memzilla Ω
    • Blackest Noobs

      HOLY SHIT!

      uh dad, the Sleeper has awaken.

    • Marla

      Ummm…

    • h4rr4r

      Good, tear all the filth down.

      • doktorzoom

        Yeah, fuck laws and the democratic process. Then when the Nazis come to burn down an abortion clinic, where they believe babies are actually murdered, then surely we’ll hear their calls for equivalence.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          This, I totally agree with it.

        • Claire

          I legitimately don’t understand the equivalence you’re trying to draw here. Statues = fetuses? Vandalism = overthrow of the democratic process by abridging the right to vote, or vandalism = weighting of laws and the legal process in favor of white supremacy? Violation of any law = murder? Pls be more explicit, here, because I’m not getting it.

          • doktorzoom

            Calling for mob action to remove Civil War monuments — which are absolutely offensive, I think they should all be removed by lawful means — is pretty much saying “Since we hate this thing, it’s OK to destroy it.”

            So obviously, if someone has a sincere belief that Planned Parenthood is evil, then they’re justified in burning it down, as long as they do it at night and nobody’s hurt. Especially since the Supreme Court won’t let them close it by legal means.

            Edit: For a more direct comparison: I sure as hell don’t want any well-meaning Holocaust deniers thinking it would be a great idea to tear down Boise’s Anne Frank memorial.

          • Claire

            Okay, but… and I am just saying, isn’t that the same sort of false moral equivalence that Trump and Fox News are using? That fighting white supremacy is equivalent to white supremacy itself? Toppling statues erected to honor white supremacy is equivalent to burning down medical facilities with the intention of denying women their bodily autonomy?

            I just can’t buy that, because taken to its logical conclusion it means that fighting against evil is never justified, and the only “right” thing to do is to retreat to the law-abiding moral high ground while people with no such ideological constraints burn the world down around us. If we all operated on that ideal there would have been no underground railroad, no breaking of laws to smuggle Jews out of Nazi territory or hide them in attics, no Rosa Parks sitting at the front of the bus.

            Laws are made to serve people, not the other way around.

        • h4rr4r

          Clearly burning down a building and tearing down a statue is the same thing. Why did I not think of that!

          Laws and the Democratic process don’t seem to be working. If they did the populace would not be tearing down statues. This is exactly what happens when the system fails. Don’t like it? Fix the system.

      • CripesAmighty

        Problem is, in Charlottesville, the City Council had approved a measure to remove the statue. Not the case in Durham..

        • h4rr4r

          I fail to see the problem. This filth should be removed. Traitors do not deserve monuments.

    • Wookie Monster

      Yay!

    • Stulexington

      I’m torn, on one hand it’s public mass vandalism. On the other hand, the opposition isn’t leaving much for options.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i am too (well, not really, it think it was a bad idea).

        On the one hand, it’s gone. And if the leaders of Durham weren’t going to do it, well, some people did and will probably get arrested for it.

        On the other hand, it’s not lawful, not representative of the people (however dumb they may be) of Durham, and it furthers narrative that “the left are violent thugs who want to erase history”.

        It may even be possible it’ll just get repaired/put back up/replaced.

        My opinion, there were perhaps better ways to get the same thing accomplished.

        (Prepares to dodge incoming…)

        • Stulexington

          Bah, you’re a law type (not quite a lawyer iirc but involved in the legal profession) you’ll get a pass for seeing thing from the strictly legal perspective. I hope anyway.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            yeah. And I suppose, I’m a believer (even perhaps moreso than actual lawyers who are jaded and experienced withs failures).

            But even then, you have to admit, it adds to the “violent” thug and “they want to shut down free speech” narrative.

            No, i’m not saying we should necessarily care (although moderates sometimes adopt the far right narrative, just look at the news today).
            BUT, we don’t need to give them ammo to further their goals either.

          • Stulexington

            They call the left violent thugs as an attempt at reverse psychology. They want the left to back down every time they push it to blows. Don’t let the person who calls you enemy dictate your actions, it will not end well.

          • doktorzoom

            How about plain old law and precedent, then? Or the Categorical Imperative? If tearing down Civil War abominations is OK for us nice people, then maybe other people who consider themselves perfectly morally justified will feel free to tear down that statue of Anne Frank in Boise.

          • Stulexington

            I attempted to leave the original context aside without notice. I’m speaking of an attempt to get people to hesitate to defend themselves, not referring to or in any way trying to justify the incident in the original topic.

          • doktorzoom

            Fair enough.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            I think, respectfully, you’re wrong…or at least mostly wrong.

            It’s just MHO, but I think they call us that to cast the light differently. You’ve seen it in alot of the stuff since saturday (and well, since the election).

            That screen cap that was in a wonkette piece day about how the “protestors” were “historians, teachers, and church goers” but the left was out to “shut down” their free speech.

            It was demonstrably wrong, and it’s idiotic and false on its face, but I seriously wonder how many people that converts (i.e. radicalized online) and how many of their members it pumps up to a point where they lash out.

            I dunno, just my opinion.

        • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

          The General Assembly passed a law a few years ago forbidding local governments from removing or substantially altering monuments.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ah! Fair enough and an important detail I did not know.

            (Strikes me as unconstitutional at either state or federal level, but what do I know)

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            Yeah, so much for local control. Once again rethuglicans are hypocrits.

          • doktorzoom

            I for one would love to see the ACLU take a test case on the behalf of a city that wants to remove these abominations. You know, process of law and all that passe stuff.

          • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i’m with you! (and surprised it didn’t actually happen, given that Durham is apparently quite liberal).

            I’d search for more info to see if that’s in the pipeline, but I’m REALLY supposed to be doing stuff and my, uh, talking about my thoughts on the issue has kept me busy.

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            I agree with you. Unfortunately, the General Assembly has been coming up with creative ways to punish the blue cities — including decreasing funding for schools. I think we’ll need a whole lot more than one test case. At least, all the gerrymandering cases have so far been decided against the Republicans.

          • doktorzoom

            Oh, Christ, I know, the NC legislature was actually my choice for 2015’s Legislative Shitmuffin of the year, but we decided it had to be just one legislator.

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            They’re so deserving. This year, also, too.

          • jowgajen

            Well I imagine that Durham may not be able to find the funds to repair this monument.

          • doktorzoom

            Haw Haw. And when a Planned Parenthood is bombed and there’s no money to rebuild it, those guys will really have a good laugh on us.

          • jowgajen

            I respect your position, and I don’t intend to promote vandalism. You would not see me there kicking a statue in a fit of pique.

            But this is a false equivalency. No individuals were placed in physical danger. No private citizen will be filing an insurance claim for a financial loss. If the state will not allow the city to take the monument down, then they cannot force the city to repair it after this act of vandalism.

          • doktorzoom

            The city should certainly spend money on a lawsuit against the state’s law, which as Space Tacos says sure as hell sounds unconstitutional.

        • Rachel Book Harlot

          I agree with you.

    • bluicebank

      Not sure what’s going on there, but real statues don’t bend at the knees when toppled. It’s usually either a “thud” or a clean break.

      • The Wanderer

        Cheap bronze.

      • jowgajen

        Bronze is pretty soft. It’s a decent height and a heavy weight. Looks about right to me.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i remember the same happened with the Saddam statute thing that was broadcast on TV. It snapped at his shins, IIRC.

        • bluicebank

          OK. It’s always the knees that go out first! That or the mind. I forget which.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Kicking the Statue only hurts your foot. They need chainsaws.

  • TootsStansbury
  • Shibusa

    In the 1970s, my brother Jim was a Boy Scout. His troop sold fertilizer as a fundraiser. He vividly remembers riding in a U-Haul with the Scoutmaster and his son to collect a couple hundred bags of fertilizer. That seems kinda nutty to me now.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I handled lots of ANFO when I was a teenager. I worked, when possible, for a guy that blasted rock pits. That seems really nutty to me now. It also seems like a pretty serious violation of child labor laws.

      • Shibusa

        Pretty sure my Mom was often in pretty serious violation of child labor laws, too. ;-)

    • bluicebank

      I was a Boy Scout in the 1970s, and sold nutty brittle … until a German Shepherd attacked me. I’ve hated Nazis ever since.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      My dad used to drive us around drunk out of his gourd, seatbeltless, and smoking, with the windows rolled up. That would be frowned upon these days. Man, I hate the nanny state!

      • My mother smoked while breast feeding. And on anti a few things.
        It’s really a miracle the species survived thus far

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        my journalism teacher used to smoke in the room that had his desk and OURS.

        My college fin aid counselor and asst. dean smoked. When I visited htem, we’d all light up and shoot the shit.

        And those were in the mid-late 90’s.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I was in LA on New Year’s Eve when they banned smoking in bars. It seemed so radical at the time, and that was only 15 years ago.

      • Suse

        So did my dad and my mom smoked during both pregnancies and beyond. I remember when smoking was allowed in hospitals and everywhere else.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I remember my dad smoking in the hospital…when he had pneumonia, and all the doctors smoked too. CRAZY!!!

      • Shibusa

        Remember how awful it was (if you weren’t a smoker) to be in airplanes when they had a smoking section?

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          It never bothered me, because i grew up breathing in smoke.

  • aktlib101

    OT: There is a good statistical probability that our civilization will go extinct in the (more or less near) future.
    “Where is everybody? The implications of cosmic silence”
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170811185455.htm

    “If the potential for intelligent life to exist somewhere in the universe is so large, then where is everybody? In a new paper, an astrophysicist argues that species such as ours go extinct soon after attaining high levels of technology.”

    “That’s the Fermi paradox in a nutshell. Daniel Whitmire, a retired astrophysicist who teaches mathematics at the University of Arkansas, once thought the cosmic silence indicated we as a species lagged far behind.

    “I taught astronomy for 37 years,” said Whitmire. “I used to tell my students that by statistics, we have to be the dumbest guys in the galaxy. After all we have only been technological for about 100 years while other civilizations could be more technologically advanced than us by millions or billions of years.”

    Recently, however, he’s changed his mind. By applying a statistical concept called the principle of mediocrity — the idea that in the absence of any evidence to the contrary we should consider ourselves typical, rather than atypical — Whitmire has concluded that instead of lagging behind, our species may be average.”

    “Abstract: According to the Principle of Mediocrity, a cornerstone of modern cosmology, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, we should believe that we are a typical member of an appropriately chosen reference class. If we assume that this principle applies to the reference class of all extant technological species, then it follows that other technological species will, like us, typically find that they are both the first such species to evolve on their planet and also that they are early in their potential technological evolution. Here we argue that this suggests that the typical technological species becomes extinct soon after attaining a modern technology and that this event results in the extinction of the planet’s global biosphere.”

    Take home message/s: global warming a hoax; Trump is smart; abortion is bad; religion is good; moochers; colored people are scary; whites uber alles, anything else I am missing?

    • aktlib101
    • Pft, leave it to physicists to get anthropology all wrong.
      More parsimonious to assume that other civilizations have simply not attained the ability to cross the insane distances required to make contact. Maybe they have all the resources they need and so did not even have to go techno? It has happened!

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        Whales seem to have little interest in astrophysics…

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        Maybe we just live in a bad neighborhood, and the extraterrestrial vehicle club drew a giant red line around it.
        “They’re dirty, mean, aggressive, grubby creatures. Avoid.”

    • Serai 1

      I’ve thought that for years. Seems to me that intelligence is the death knell for any planet – once you’ve got a species that’s capable of changing its environment to suit itself, it’s going to keep doing that and never stop. No matter what effect it has.

      • aktlib101

        Nothing wrong with intelligence, the problem is greed. Unchecked greed.

        • One would think that, since technology evolved to make it more possible for the species to prosper, that eventually intelligence will replace greed.
          Case in point: There are more and more liberals out there not down with destroying the globe for profit. There used to be much less of them. It is a slow going thing, but we may get there yet.

          • aktlib101

            I surely hope you’re right !

        • Serai 1

          I don’t mean intelligence as in physics professor. I mean intelligence in its most basic sense – a creature that has self-consciousness and can form ideas.

          • aktlib101

            Sure, of course. But if a species, any species, CAN change the environment to suit their needs, shouldn’t that “intelligent” species know or learn when to stop with the changes, or limit some of the changes, before destroying their own home/life?

          • Serai 1

            Apparently not. Do you see that happening here?

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      You left out BENGHAZI!!!!

      • aktlib101

        I’ll send the author an EMAIL (don’t forget “her” emailz) about BENGHAZIIIII…how could I forget?

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Well perhaps it’s possible to have intelligent life that didn’t evolve from aggressive primates, and instead more peaceful, cooperative creatures, and that form of life could hold on and progress for longer?

      • aktlib101

        Heh, sure. But assuming they reached the technology to test the space around their planet, where are they? There should be billions of such civilizations, leaving electronic signatures, Universe is very old

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          That’s also assuming there’s a technology to enable any vehicle to travel the distances in question. I’m not a physicist or a big science fiction reader, but wouldn’t the speed of light be the limiting factor?

          • aktlib101

            Absolutely it is a limiting factor. But take Milky Way, predicted to have 100 BILLION planets. That is only our galaxy. Andromeda is the nearest big galaxy, at 2.5million light years away, about 2x bigger or so than our galaxy. Hundreds of billions of planets only in our 2 galaxies, why can’t we hear anybody else? Or, not yet. Speed of light would allow us to easily hear others in the two galaxies of our Local Group, IF their civilization started to make itself known sometime in the past 2-3 million years or so. In cosmic age, 2-3 million years is very little. Yet, we don’t hear anyone. Could it be that once species reach technological prowess they are one by one overtaken by greed, and destroy their own planet/civilization? So their electronic signature lasts a couple of hundred/thousand years and then it disappears?

          • Delu

            Simple answer they are all avoiding us.

            They know what we are like and want nothing to do with us

          • aktlib101

            Or that.

        • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

          Or perhaps the other tech having species are aquatic. Or live on giant gas planets. Or are very very small.

  • Jeffocaster in the West
    • No, because boobie.
      Mmmmmboobies

      • CindyinEncinitas

        That looks more like a moobie than a boobie. Not attractive. 3 out of 10. And what the fuck is that coming out of his leg? Has he been impaled?

    • bluicebank
    • WomanInThePersistence

      It certainly shouldn’t. Pity that’s what Booth yelled when he murdered Lincoln.

      • Serai 1

        Why do you think it’s on the state seal?

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Isn’t that supposed to be a fetish?

    • Serai 1

      Sic semper tyrannis – that’s what Booth shouted when he killed Lincoln. Talk about a dog whistle.

      • well. Virginia.
        Though historians still debate if that is what he shouted or if it was more “OW MY ANKLE”

        • Serai 1

          LOL

      • jowgajen

        I believe the motto is original to 1776,

        • Serai 1

          Okay. Then why is it STILL there?

          • jowgajen

            Because “thus always tyrrants” is an historical reference to Julius Caesar that relates to our nations foundational myth?

    • aktlib101

      Because of naked boobises?

    • Jeffocaster in the West
      • HA! I was good at that game in highlights also :D

      • therblig

        [redacted – well, trying anyway]

    • Blackest Noobs

      i never notice before on the seal, dude has a giant stone penis off his leg.

      did ancient greeks have stone leg penises?

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        And moobs….

      • Ancient dildos?

        • amrak63

          “Ancient Dildos!” Coming this Fall to the History Channel!

          • The first time I found a mano I was all like…is this a big stone dildo?
            Cause it totally was.

          • amrak63

            What, in this context, is a mano?

          • kareemachan

            ANCIENT ALIEN DILDOS!!!11!!

          • Mehmeisterjr

            TLC already has the title “Ancient Dildos!” reserved for its next Duggar Family spinoff show.

        • Blackest Noobs

          ALIENS?

    • doktorzoom

      I’d prefer you not. I’d add that deliberate trolling to see how far one can go before crossing the line just might win one a 48 hour timeout from commenting. Especially considering there’s a featured comment on the matter.

      And now that I’ve warned against testing the boundaries of civility, to do so further would obviously be both unwelcome and dickish.

      • Jeffocaster in the West

        Actually, that was not my intention. I didn’t figure the state seal, and THAT particular state seal ironically would get me banned. It was not intended as a troll.

        • doktorzoom

          For some reason, I’m a bit on edge today. And the phrase “Would X be a violation of the rules?” is often followed by something that either pushes right up to the line or blasts right past it. Since I’m already in a place where I’m not feeling especially charitable — and for godssake, I *AM* getting off the computer after this — I misread you as asking “Well, how about a state seal that calls for tyrants to be bloodily deposed”? My apologies for misunderstanding.

          • Jeffocaster in the West

            Dok, you is a good guy. On edge is a state of affairs for many these days….coming through Boise next week, I’ll buy you a drink….

    • kareemachan

      HEY, she has a bare breast. How’d that get by all the gawd-fearing people of Virginia?

      • Jeffocaster in the West

        Actually a few years back one of the Republican nutjob Governors, I think, proposed a redesign because of the boobie….

  • Blackest Noobs

    remember, and someone else here posted this, but there ARE NO monuments to Nazi Generals.

    NONE.

    and we have not forgotten about them from history. forever ingrained into history with or without statues. same goes for good old Robert E. Lee, who only fought cuz Virginia fought…well fuck that Bobby, you had a conscience choice and you fucking chose wrong.

    you ought not be remembered as a hero to fucking traitors, but be remembered you were too much of a coward to stand on the right side of history.

    why in the fuck should we honor that with you as a statue riding a horse..majestically….another white man’s wet dream.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Closer to home, we also don’t have statues of British Loyalist here, AFAIK.

      • Blackest Noobs

        where the godamn statue of Cornwallis damnit…bloody hell!!!

        • Stulexington

          Funny, we have one in Halifax that people want taken down because of evil things done to the natives.

          • Three Finger Salute

            …and leave it to Deplorebel Media to send a hipster Nazi bro cult to harass First Nations demonstrators and call them “squatters.” Ezra Levant’s rent boy, Gavin McInnes. He started something called “Proud Boys” which has, as part of its credo, “no masturbating.” I guess that means Gavin is going to have to put on the hazmat suit and confiscate Ezra’s personal copy of “Common Ground”…

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        We have a statute of Benedict Arnold, tho.

        Well, his foot, anyway. I’m not kidding.

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          They also still have his portrait up at West Point since he was commandant there. But it’s the only one that is turned to face the wall.

          • ooooo how about we tell them they can keep their statues if we can turn their faces to the wall?

    • I get annoyed when people insist he only fought for the south because he was loyal to virgina.
      His father freed his slaves and died a pauper.
      Lee married a rich woman with slaves.
      That is why he fought for Virginia.

      • Blackest Noobs

        but that’s the tale we are all told, and when you are between the truth and the legend, you print the legend.

        • Oh I know.
          But that is why I will mention that every time someone mentions Lee XD Cause sick of that shit, yo

          • Blackest Noobs

            i always begged my friend to drive us to the Stonewall Jackson memorial off of I-95. i said i betcha there’s a statue of Stonewall there, and he was like, why do YOU want to go there…i said well i want to chainsaw off his head and take it as a souvenir.

            so he was like, oh, yeah, let’s do it.

            when we got there, there was no fucking statue goddamn it. just the house where the fucker died cuz his own men fucking shot him. and just this giant billboard kinda thing with words stating Jackson’s last days on earth. in the middle is this box. it has a button. there is no braille or written words on it. so i pushed it.

            it starts a recording that says the exact same thing that is written, i looked over to my friend, and i said, you know, for the sons of the confederacy, even in the 20th century, they’re fucking illiterate.

      • The Flaming Carrot

        I hate that motherfucker.

      • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

        And Lee tried to avoid freeing his dad’s slaves with some legal hocus-pocus. Also too changed his wife’s family policy of not breaking up enslaved families.

    • Cosmopolitan John
      • Blackest Noobs

        i am gonna have to get busy creating multiple fake-disquis accounts so i can up your up numbers.
        very very insightful article.

        dumb johnny reb will call it fake news.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Not to mention, he was a Colonel in the U.S. Army when the traitor bastard switched sides. Switched fucking sides. Most of those men he sent to die hadn’t been U.S. soldiers before the war, Like Lee was. He’s the definition of a traitor. There is and was not a single honorable thing about that bastard.

    • Jeffocaster in the West

      When Lee refused Lincoln to direct the Unions forces Lincoln should have arrested him on the spot.

  • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos
    • Awwww, look at all them news outlets giving that economically anxious 16 year old all the press.

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        and he seems to be REALLY proud of it…perhaps fishing for followers? I mean, I hear that’s a thing.

    • TJ Barke

      I said some stupid shit at 16 too. Not that stupid, but still.

      • Shibusa

        I was quite taken with the writings of Ayn Rand at 16. (Don’t tell anyone!)

        • I got over that shit at 13 *gloats*
          In retrospect, my parents shoulda probably been a little more hep to what I was reading….

          • Three Finger Salute

            I checked out Tropic of Cancer from the library when I was 13 because I’d heard about it on a Seinfeld episode, and my mother flipped out. No more Seinfeld either until I was of legal voting age.

        • TJ Barke

          Oh my…

    • gallbladder

      I remember my first beer.

    • Delu

      Well that sure gets me confident about future elections in America….

  • CripesAmighty

    Everybody else utterly exhausted? Thought so. Dusted off from the archives:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PiONzm0Nwdg

  • Picabo
  • pgjack

    What is it with these guys? They can’t get dates, they live with their parents and they think they can successfully make war on the federal government. The Confederacy was a whole bunch of states and real armies and they gat their butts whipped. Why do fools like this shmuck think they’ll do better? You want to change the government? Vote. And get all your friends to vote. It worked for the GOP, let’s hope it works for those of us on the left.

  • Baconzgood

    Hey wonkets, take Shanzgood with a grain of salt this evening. She’s gonna be “stroppy” because her sleep schedule is all out of wack and she’s angry because I played a joke on her….or she ran out of boxed wine and cigarettes.

    Either way I recommend millinals stearate clear of her tonight.

    • NeoliberalBanksterCaptainHowdy

      . . . . mmm . . .

    • mancityRed6

      dude, no. screenshot for posterity.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      She’s mah gurl, and if she wants to be in a strop, Ima letter.

      • Baconzgood

        She’s my girl too also. As her man I politely giving “yinz” a heads up.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Where is that spray-bottle “no” graphic that she likes? That goes here.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω
        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          LOL, that’s a good one, but I would never use anything that strong on our dear Baconz for playing practical jokes.

      • Baconzgood

        I actually had to sqrirt her with a spray bottle more than her cat. Or course Shanz claws at the drapes more and doesn’t use the litter box.

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          But she’s so cute, you just have to let some of those things slide

          • Baconzgood

            I’d put her out side tonight. She’s being feral and scratchy.

    • janecita

      Shit, I’m not even going to look her way! Thanks for the heads up!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Noted for future reference.

      • Baconzgood

        She’s gone passed “stroppy” and now is in “bitey” stage. Even as her man she’s not sociable right now. If we lived together I’d lock her in the crawl space until she mellows out.

        • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

          Yikes. Bitey should only be for the fun times.

  • janecita
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Yeah, this is fine, but we must protect the identities of racist assholes visiting 4chan?
    https://twitter.com/ALT_uscis/status/897246281663426560

    • mancityRed6

      well, you didn’t think they’d go after the alt right, did you?

    • Shibusa

      Time to donate to ACLU again.

      • mancityRed6

        SPLC? maybe?

        • Shibusa

          That too.

    • yyyaz

      In case no one wants to click the linky, read this and try not to scream:
      The search warrant seeks information that could be used to identify subscribers of the website.

      This includes names, addresses, telephone numbers and other identifiers, e-mail addresses, business information, the length of
      service (including start date), means and source of payment for services (including any credit card or bank account number), and information about any domain name registration.

      • mancityRed6

        see, this is why I don’t donate to certain people. it will bite me on the arse
        maybe bitcoin is a good idea.
        fuck, I can’t believe I just said that.

        • yyyaz

          How soon our Dear Editrix gets a nice surprise subpoena is now open for bets.

          • mancityRed6

            crap, I just reenlisted.

          • yyyaz

            I’ll take one for the team, I have no fucks left to give.

          • mancityRed6

            hell to the fuck yes. I’m down.

      • How can that even be legal? I am very sure that, like the voter request, is in no way legal.

        • yyyaz

          It will be subject to a court fight, with the first hearing scheduled Friday. Just keep in mind that Pres. Bannon is stuffing judicial vacancies faster than any other administration ever has.

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          I wouldn’t think so either.

          This is the interesting part:
          “The warrant, dated July 12, says that authorities will seize any information constituting violations of D.C. code governing riots that involve individuals connected to the protests on Inauguration Day.”

          My guess (SOLELY) based on the article?

          That “any” in the warrant ends up including a shit ton of people. Notice the way the ISP phrases this:

          “DreamHost claimed that complying with the request from the Justice Department would amount to handing over roughly 1.3 million visitor IP addresses to the government, in addition to contact information, email content and photos of thousands of visitors to the website, which was involved in organizing protests against Trump on Inauguration Day.”

    • Serai 1

      Is it fine? Really? You want the government to set this precedent?

      • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

        especially considering getting the KKK’s membership rolls was considering a big thing back in the 60’s.

      • Martini Ambassador 🍸

        I guess my sarcasm was too subtle there.

        • Serai 1

          No, I got it after a minute. Thus I deleted.

  • Catstro

    Protesters in Durham have toppled the confederate statue in front of the courthouse
    http://abc11.com/2308015/http%3A%2F%2Fabc11.com%2F2308015%2F

  • La forza del resistino

    Only Donald could make me rethink my ‘shitweasel’ opinion of my CO senator. Strange times.
    https://twitter.com/SenCoryGardner/status/896472477844385792

    • Stulexington

      They’re finally calling a duck a duck and the President just ducks.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      I live here as well and Cory gets no credit for stating the obvious. He still voted with Trump on healthcare and just fuck him.

      • And he will be one of the first who goes “See, he said the right words now, all is fine!”

      • La forza del resistino

        ur right neighbor. I should have said considering rethinking. and then said Nah.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Why? Acknowledging that nazis are wrong is literally the least we should expect from an American elected representative. Even a shitweasel.

  • Holly

    I am compelled to write what I’m feeling today as I’m in a state of depression that isn’t going to go away anytime soon. These past few days have been horribly dark, disturbing, and painful and will be historically remembered as such. I’m sad, disappointed and angry that my daughter and granddaughter have to live with the knowledge the lunatic fringe has become the norm. This isn’t normal. None of this is normal. When a young woman is murdered and there’s precious little written to honor her (with the exception of our own Doc Zoom – Thank you Doc) and we are living in a bitterly divided country where the word Nazi is used by the same people who claim to be American patriots and they believe they can carry a nazi flag?. This country has a lot of cleaning up to do. I have work to do. We all have work to do. Let’s clean this fucking mess up.

    • Shibusa

      I feel the same way. Charlottesville seems like the tip of a very big iceberg. My brother sent me a screen shot of some Stormfront goon trying to get coordinates for Heather Heyer’s funeral. (She’s the woman struck and killed by the car.) So they’re basically Westboro Baptist with firearms, confederate flags, and riot gear.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        What kind of monster would harass a grieving family? Oh, yeah, a Trump supporter.

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      • WomanInThePersistence

        Fuck. Those. Assholes.

      • Holly

        I don’t know how to process what that means. I thought Westboro was the absolute worst of the worst and now this? Stunned. Appalled. Sickened.

        • We’re not going to allow them to win, Holly. It is going to get worse, there is no sugar coating that. It will, and history tells us it will, so we should be prepared.
          But they have not won before, and there are even more of us now.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I kinda needed to hear that. Thank you.

          • Holly

            Jen has pulled me through more than one of my “episodes”.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Jen is one of the good people. I am really grateful to have her here.

          • Holly

            I won’t stop fighting. I may be depressed but I will fight for my girls. I will fight for all of us in this room. You never fail to be an inspiration. Thank you Jen.

    • mancityRed6

      when they carry a nazi and confederate flag and no one (other than here and few other websites) will actually say what they chanted was naziesque, yeah.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      The only shred of hope I can get out of this insanity, is that this tragedy might finally wake this country up. I hope Heather’s death wasn’t in vain. When the Selma freedom marchers were met with dogs and fire hoses, the tide started to turn. I’m hoping this is a similar event, and more people start to find Trump and Bannon morally repugnant.

      • Serai 1

        I’d say this is more like Kent State, myself.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Thats also appropriate. Sheesh…the more things change, the more they stay the same.

          • Little Lulu Ω

            The difference historically is that Nixon at the very least showed some remorse; Trump sees this tragedy as an annoyance.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Nixon also didn’t have vast alternate “news” organizations to convince the rubes everything they heard was “fake news!”

      • Holly

        You are the most wonderful marvelous of all. My love to you and thank you for…well…you are just wonderful

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          Right back at you my friend. I like to think that good triumphs over evil, but these last few months have really tested my beliefs.

          We can find hope in the fact that 58% of Americans are unhappy with Trump. If he loses in a massive landslide in 2020, I will have my faith in humanity restored. C’mon America, show me that you are a decent and kind and welcoming country.

      • Three Finger Salute

        It won’t matter. A country that doesn’t do a damn thing after 25 kindergarteners get blown away by a maniac with a machine gun is a country that has already failed. More people care about whatever brand of cosmetics Kylie Jenner is hocking on Instagram, than care about the imminent collapse into simultaneous civil war and global war of the most powerful nation that’s “too big to fail” and will take the rest of the world with it. They’ll just hashtag #ThoughtsAndPrayers or change their Facebook avatars, and then get back to posting “dank memes,” binging on Game of Thrones, and fighting over the outcome of last election.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I don’t know, at some point people usually say “enough” and Trump is already wildly unpopular. Joseph McCarthy died a reviled alcoholic. I’m hoping the entire Trump Klan will be,spat upon when they dare to show their faces in public after this farce of a presidency ends.

          • Holly

            Exactly right. The tide is turning and karma is a bitch.

        • Holly

          Golly! Thanks?

    • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

      What is good endures. We would not still be here if it were otherwise.

    • goonemeritus

      Personally I’m done with letting even people I need to get along with get away their own bespoke set of facts. Fuck that shit from now till my dying day.

      • Holly

        Exactly right! NO ONE GETS A FUCKING PASS ANYMORE

  • Joy’s back in primetime tonight!

  • Me The People

    “As a teenager I would just laugh at newsreels of Hitler and other
    fascists. I hope what happened next is not witnessed again by my
    grandchildren’s generation”

    • Author Harry Leslie Smith, 94, is a second world war RAF veteran

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/14/1939-second-world-war-fascist-thundering-approach-hitler

    • Three Finger Salute

      Beat me to it. But, like the “Don’t be a sucker” video, can’t be posted enough.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef
  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Seems to me, punch a Nazi is like whack a mole. They’ll just erupt somewhere else. Solution: cut of their food supply of ignorance, misinformation and lack of potty training.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      So you want to ban Facebook? Is that what you’re saying?

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        What? And ban humankind’s most significant invention since fire and the hydrogen bomb?

      • Three Finger Salute

        I’d love to. We would have been better off if Y2K had actually happened and the tech industry didn’t rebuild after the dotcom crash.

  • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

    But he’s just some white guy, not a terrorist. Lone wolf. Idiot saboteur.

    • mancityRed6

      that snark, I can smell it from here.

      • Stulexington

        I love the smell of snark in the morning. Yes I just woke up, don’t judge me!

  • Edith Prickly
    • WomanInThePersistence

      Yes. Thank you.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Rocket looks sad that Starlord and Mrs Starlord broke up…

      • Edith Prickly

        He’s really sorry now that he put that turd in Starlord’s pillow.

    • kareemachan

      We had a wood rat chewing on our screen door last night. Our cats paw at the door to signal they want in, and I almost opened it without looking. Now I’m scared the rat learned this by watching them.

      Damn, those fothermuckers are BIG.

      • grindstone

        aiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhh, no.
        We have fruit rats. Because they get lots of vitamins and especially vitamin C, they are extremely healthy looking, fluffy rats. It’s almost a shame to attempt to eradicate them. Almost.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Little Groot has grown so big!

  • Three Finger Salute

    94-year-old Royal Air Force vet pens Guardian op-ed

    “In 1939, I didn’t hear war coming. Now, its thundering approach can’t be ignored”

    Somebody call the Police, there’s a monster in our midst mist…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMHvnC5gv8A

    • Me The People

      ;-)

  • Jennifer R
    • Stulexington

      That’s not the forehead.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Also, that looks a lot like a bird’s head (facing away from her.)

    • mancityRed6

      they do kick, don’t they?

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Pretty sure that’s illegal. Or at least wtf.

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        “Shhhh….

        – Bun

        (oops, this was in ref to Stulexington’s comment, below)

    • janecita

      Fuck that! A bunny bit me once, and it hurt like a bitch!

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        A rabbit ønce bit my sister.

        • janecita

          I thought that it was a moose?

        • Courser_Resistance

          A baby goat bit my finger at the fair a couple of weeks ago. Even drew a drop of blood. I’ve been monitoring my legs for furry-ness.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Do you now have a super-power?

          • Courser_Resistance

            Nothing has manifested. Yet.

    • Doug Langley

      Didn’t I see that in a movie with Sigourney Weaver?

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance
    • The Wanderer

      Hideous cute facehugger!

  • Debbie the Unpaid Protester

    yeah, the Oklahoma City bombing was a “wake up call,” Fuckhead– one that killed 19 toddlers. so brave, these bombers & would-be bombers

    • Serai 1

      Especially in the way they run and hide.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i like (not really, you know what I mean) how it was “not an attack on america.”

      That makes me do a doggie, “huh?” head tilt.

      It was an attack on americans, in an american (gov’t) building, on american soil.

  • WomanInThePersistence

    So, did we break the Disqus? Or are we in the process of doing so?

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      No, but I think we’re breaking Dok’s patience.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        I promise to abide by the rules. They are good rules. And keep this place sane.

      • Ω cynmac’s reclaiming her time

        Yeah, we had another visit from What? Me Worry with the Hillary hate and trying to work through the election AGAIN. Also, he hates Wonkette but keeps coming here to pitch his BS.

        • Delu

          Oh I missed that? Pity.

        • Oh, he’s actually outted himself as someone who enjoys “Triggering”
          And then always claims how everyone is so mean to him.
          Very sure that one ain’t even a Bro.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            I have no idea. They’re blocked to me.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          That person? Again?

  • And meanwhile in ABALAMA the Old White Men vying for Session’s Seat (snicker) are fightin’ and spittin’ and yeehawin’ about who Trump loves best.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a0c575324ee4fb8736b2d25e7d3f6d0fcd0dd986e30e1844a1f6430b3245e127.jpg

    TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION: In Alabama having Trump crow his love of you is considered an asset for you campaign for public office

    • Suse

      What’s with all of these white guys with white hair? They all look completely interchangeable.

      • Jeffocaster in the West

        Cloning…………..Orphan White

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        It’s the “Pence Special” Hair Care for Old White Dudes™

    • Left Coast Tom

      So, basically, Alabama voters select the candidate with the brownest tongue?

    • gallbladder

      Seems to me that it all didn’t end too well for the last batch of Nazi sycophants who plied for the the love of their hero.

    • Delu

      If only Leslie Nielsen were still around.

      He’d play a wonderful parody of a fourth guy there.

      • yyyaz

        And look much better while doing it.

        • Delu

          Which parody movie was it that he played the President of America again? Scary Movie I think it was?

          Yeah.

      • gallbladder

        Or all three.

    • I wonder if it will.
      It will be interesting to see what the polls do. This, by the way guys, is the actual test going on. Will the people elect a Trump Lover, or a not Trump Lover? Cause it is gonna be Republican either way

      • Left Coast Tom

        That’s not really a “test” though, right? Because they’re all kissing L’il Donnie’s ass, so the “Not Trump Lover” doesn’t appear on the GOP primary ballot.

        • I thought there was one who wasn’t? Or am I thinking another place.
          Poor Alabama. You have the rest of the union to keep your skies blue
          What the fuck is wrong with you?

          • Left Coast Tom

            I just saw, above, L’il Donnie’s Luther Strange endorsement.

            Remember that Roy Moore, Mr. Ten Commandments Humper, is one of the “others”.

          • Left Coast Tom

            Replying again, because…

            I’ve always contended that L’il Donnie is a modern-day George Wallace. That he “won” with negative 3 million votes because of the Rust Belt fits this contention as, 1) a generation ago that region embraced George Wallace, and 2) the region has since seen little in-migration coupled with a steady moderate out-migration punctuated by episodes of significant out-migration.

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos
      • Luther Strange.
        So….Marvel villain?

        • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

          iKR? I said virtually the same thing in the non-comments of a wonkette story.

        • The Wanderer

          Doc Strange’s less-smrt brother.

        • Delu

          Well I guess he’s the relative that Strange is ashamed to admit to.

          Like how it is with DC’s Maxwell Lord and real life douche Jeffery Lord.

        • miss_grundy

          Wait, wouldn’t that make him a DC villain????? (As in DC comics?)

          • Delu

            Strange is a Marvel character.

          • miss_grundy

            But I am going by his first name–Luther…..

      • Delu

        Good luck to Luther then.

        And spread the word about Trump’s support for him too.

      • Stulexington

        Hmmm, for Luther, doesn’t that make him Lutherfer?

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent
    • gallbladder

      Superb.

  • La forza del resistino

    Varnell would expect Fed minted change from his Federal Reserve Note used for his last 6-pack purchase of Bud Light.

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸
    • Claire

      COMMA PLACEMENT IS IMPORTANT, PEOPLE.

  • Delu

    Ah well, the greatest threat to America is still Muslims and their Sharia law creeping up to murder Democracy.

    Yeah. Domestic terrorism is SO not a thing….

    • TEX Dept. of Space Tacos

      if ONLY the department of DHS handling them hadn’t of been effectively shut down during the Bush II years.

  • Suse

    Gee, that’s a shame, Dick.
    Richard Spencer forced to hold press conference in his apartment because DC hotels wouldn’t have him: report
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/richard-spencer-forced-to-hold-press-conference-in-his-apartment-because-dc-hotels-wouldnt-have-him-report/

    • jesterpunk

      His mom was ok with all those people going in and out of the house?

      • JustDon’tSayDignity

        As long as they use the back door and stay in the basement.

        • jesterpunk

          And don’t track mud through the house.

      • Suse

        The basement may have a separate entrance.

        • jesterpunk

          Thats not very considerate of him. I am sure he still yells up stairs for his mom to make him a sammich, she shouldn’t have to go out in the rain or snow for him.

        • Bub, the cynical zombie

          It’s called the “sewer.” Normal people have trouble with it. Dick can ooze in & out no problem though.

    • Why is the press giving that cretin any coverage?

    • gallbladder

      Was Trump DC not available?

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Well … Dick is a dick …

    • mancityRed6

      yes, please, can we just call him for what he is, Dick?

    • miss_grundy

      When will his landlord terminate his lease?

  • ltmcdies
    • TJ Barke