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Remember how one of the top wingnut fears during Barack Obama’s tenure as president — after, of course his plan to take away your guns and/or to impose sharia law — was that he might cancel all elections and declare himself dictator for life? True, sometimes, the gun-grabbing was a step on the way to such a scheme, so We The Stupid People couldn’t fight back, so it all sort of blurred together, but the fear that Barack Obama would seize (MORE) power and cancel elections was always one of the biggies. Obviously, we should therefore not be at all surprised at this Washington Post headline:

somehow it just works better as a picture, we think

Come on, WaPo, you have got to be joking us! But no, they did what looks like a pretty decent survey, with methodology and everything, though of course it’s kind of primed to find respondents who would indeed be open to a little delay in the election process, as long as it’s for the very best possible reason: making sure all those millions of illegal aliens who voted for Hillary don’t endanger the Republic again. The Post started with the observation that even though there’s no evidence that in-person voter fraud is widespread, huge percentages of Republicans are nonetheless certain it is. So hey, naturally enough, they wondered, “how far would Republicans be willing to follow the president to stop what they perceive as rampant fraud?”

Pretty goddamned far, it turns out. They surveyed 650 people who had already self-identified in another poll as Republican or leaning Republican, and asked them “whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs.” Then they got to the two big questions:

  • If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?
  • What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?

The survey found that about half of the Republicans surveyed thought Trump really did win the popular vote, and would be OK with postponing the 2020 election:

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

And now the money shot. 52 percent said they’d support putting off the 2020 election on Donald Trump’s say-so if it meant all those nonexistent illegals were weeded out. That increased to 56 percent support if the call for a postponed election came from both Trump and congressional Republicans. Sadly, they didn’t factor in how high the percentage would go if Sean Hannity and “the hot chicks on Fox” joined the bandwagon too. Seems like a missed opportunity.

Not surprisingly, belief in any of the bullshit theories about voter fraud in 2016 correlated strongly with support for postponing the 2020 vote, and just to underline how much Trump loves the poorly-educated, support for democracy delayed

was also more prevalent among Republicans who were younger, were less educated, had less factual knowledge of politics and strongly identified with the party.

WaPo cautions that this is of course only a survey about a hypothetical, and that if Trump actually proposed such a thing, there would almost certainly be “a torrent of opposition, which would most likely include prominent Republicans,” plus probably a financial panic as markets reacted to such an insane proposition. Also, while WaPo doesn’t mention this, we’d bet those questions about 2016 and illegal voting no doubt primed some respondents to be more open to saying they’d delay an election for such a noble cause.

Now let’s be clear about one thing, OK? This survey did not find that a majority of Republicans are open to giving Trump dictatorial powers. You gotta be fair and accurate about this shit. It merely found that a majority of Republicans are open to giving Trump dictatorial powers if he promises to stick it to the blacks and Messicans.

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  • jesuswasablack
    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter
      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        It’s always KFC with these assholes, because nothing says Black Culture like a stereotypical cracker mascot.

        • BJW

          Oh hell. I was raised on fried chicken. Turns out that is how Southerners eat (of my mother’s era). Ridiculous stereotype.

        • PubOption

          Should be Church’s or Popeye’s.

          • (((fka_donnie_d)))

            We don’t have any Church’s in my neck of the woods. I tried popeyes, IMO overpriced and – I hate to say it – not as good as KFC.

      • natoslug

        If we looked at the dietary habits of the last, say, seven presidents, I wonder which one of them would be most likely to stuff his face with KFC every chance he gets.

        • (((fka_donnie_d)))

          Got that right

    • cheetojeebus

      There’s several genetic deadends right there.

    • Jeff Ackerman

      Not enough bleach in the gene pool, they where only whitened…

    • amrak63

      Ever notice how the average white supremacist looks like the worst possible argument for the factuality (is that a word?) of white supremacy? SAD!

      The “master race”, ladies and gentlemen.

      http://i.imgur.com/cap6x8s.jpg

      This poor goon looks like the love child of Sandra Bernhard and Billy Bob Thornton.

      • Shawn Renee Ernoehazy

        This guy did not ask to be have a genetic disorder, and likely was/is bullied so will associate with anyone who accepts him. I suspect he is of low intelligence and very gullible. He really has no idea what he is doing and is being used. I feel sad for him. He likely meets the criteria for an abused adult based on his likely inability to care for himself.

        • “M”

          There are a whole lot of white supremacists who are of low intelligence and are very gullible and being used.

          I don’t make excuses for them and I don’t feel sorry for them.

          I busy myself being invisible to them because they are real busy hunting for people who look like me.

      • “M”

        Dystopia is hard.

  • Indiepalin

    Even if it takes a million years…

  • MynameisBlarney

    Not surprising in the least little bit.
    After all, these flag waving, chest pounding jingoist morans are as about as Anti-American as I’ve ever seen.

  • proudgrampa

    JEESUS FUCKING CHRIST ON A POGO STICK.

    AMERICA!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!

  • ManchuCandidate

    Because the majority of current GOPers are a bunch of dumbfuck cry babies who don’t know what elections or freedom or most words found in the dictionary mean.

    • Eo Raptor

      Also too, don’t know what any of the words in the Constitution mean.

      • “M”

        Unlike Gold Star Dad Dr. Khan, they think they’re fully entitled not to have to read their copies.

        Their flags should read “you can’t tell me what to dooooooooooooooo”

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    We will destroy the election process the constitution American democracy democracy America in order to save it

    • Rick Hill

      We will destroy t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶l̶e̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶i̶t̶u̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶A̶m̶e̶r̶i̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶d̶e̶m̶o̶c̶r̶a̶c̶y̶ democracy America in order to s̶a̶v̶e̶ rape it

    • weejee

      There’s a whole village in Vietnam on line two.

      • willi0000000

        only one?

  • BrendaKay

    This was my worst nightmare scenario… that Trump would not voluntarily leave office. Is Mueller dragging him out in handcuffs the safest way to ensure elections in 2020?

  • theblackdog

    It merely found that a majority of Republicans are open to giving Trump dictatorial powers if he promises to stick it to the blacks and Messicans.

    And the gays and the transgenders and the Muslims, with a sprinkle of women who had an abortion for good measure.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    We’re gonna need a bigger basket.

  • MynameisBlarney

    It doesn’t matter what those ignorant nazis think though.
    Lard Dampnut will either be in Ft. Leavenworth or a padded cell in a mental hospital long before 2020.

    • BadKitty904

      But if the Republicans continue to control Congress…

      • MynameisBlarney

        They do for now.
        But ’18’s gonna change for the better I hope.

        • BadKitty904

          It had better. Or there won’t be an America by 2020.

        • amrak63

          From your keyboard to the screen of the Ascended Madoka.

        • “M”

          #FlipTheHouse

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Take it away, Fred and Ginger – let’s call the whole thing off.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3fjQa5Hls

  • armed_bears

    Kamala Harris’ likely implication on future survey results? Disqus among yourselves.

    • Major_Major_Major

      V+B=1/0. Alternatately , P(KH=POTUS)=1×10^(-1/0)

      • Snopes Shop

        I don’t even understand that but I like it.

  • Vincent Ricola

    We really need to take a firmer stance against Y’all Qaeda and their terrorist plans to bring down American democracy. Fire and Fury.

    • BadKitty904

      It’s very much getting to that point.

  • BadKitty904

    I’ve said since November 2016 that the 2020 election isn’t a certainty and even if it takes place, there’s no guarantee it won’t be as hacked as 2016’s.

    British Columbia is looking better each day…

    • Major_Major_Major

      Nova Scotia or NZ for me.

      • BadKitty904

        New Zealand is pretty, but filled with kakapos.

        • Kakapos!

          • BadKitty904

            That Stephen Fry, man… *giggles*

          • I think it was Mark Karwardine who got neck banged by the kakapo in the doc. While Stephen stood about and laughed, as one should

          • BadKitty904

            I will never be able to look at owl-parrots again without laughing…

          • They are pretty ridiculous looking, even without the utter stupidity in mating habits

          • BadKitty904

            Ma Nature can be quite the jokester…

          • I am willing to bet that kakapos, like the Platypus and the seahorse, are escapees from fiction, somewhere and are just hanging out

          • BadKitty904

            “Lewis Carroll” would be my first guess…

          • Unpublished fantasy work from The Well of Lost Plots

    • Eo Raptor

      It’s not clear to me that Canada is willing to take any US refugees. Certainly, they won’t take a 66 yr. old man who can’t find a job in his field, and can’t afford to live on Social Security.

  • This level of stupid makes my brain hurt. I am honestly surprised your entire country isn’t a Darwin Award winner

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      We’re underachievers.

    • Cosmopolitan John

      Give it time, give it time.

    • memzilla Ω

      Can’t get a Darwin Award unless you actually die physically — as opposed to spiritually.

      • Or eliminate your ability to procreate to the gene pool

        • willi0000000

          we’ve already done that . . . who would want to trade in their form of government for ours any more?

        • puredog

          It’s the people defecating in the gene pool that concern me.

    • Rick Hill

      When they say things like “We should have an IQ test before you’re allowed to vote.” I don’t think they’ve actually thought it through

      • Yellerduck

        Well, yah, since most of the respondents either misspell IQ or pronounce it “ick”.

        • Rick Hill

          iQ? Is that a new Apple gadget?

          • tomamitai

            It’s the line they stand in to buy Apple products in England and other Commonwealth countries.

          • Yellerduck

            No joke: I once overheard a conversation between two co-workers, one of whom dubiously claimed to have a degree in psychology in which she earnestly explained to the other about the “eye-dee” and the ego. I had to leave the room to keep from laughing out loud.

      • tomamitai

        They’ll just include a grandfather clause. Also too, they said they wanted the test before you’re allowed to vote not before they’re allowed.

      • willi0000000

        don’t test the voters . . . test the fucking candidates!

    • Anna Rompage

      It will once the pinko commie lefists protective regulations for workplace & auto safety, and food & environmental regulations break down a bit more under the auspice of the republican ideal that “regulations are bad, okay”…

    • PubOption
    • natoslug

      We’re working on it. Unfortunately, stupid can be much too slow a cause of death.

    • handyhippie65

      actually, less that a quarter of us voted for orange man babby.

      • willi0000000

        somehow this saddens me even more.

  • memzilla Ω
    • PubOption

      I thought that she was better known for not wearing a shirt.

      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        I always thought she had almost as much on the ball as Schumer. Good on her!

      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        +1, too, for not having Russian. They should apologize to us.

      • #that so called president :)

        it’s not your sister!

        :)

    • I know enough Persian that I can recognize the word TRUMP in Arabic letters a mile off. :-/ (Fun fact: you can’t spell it in Arabic itself because no letter P.)

  • BadKitty904
    • willi0000000

      for a while at least.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    As a tangential OT: Little Babby Donnie said he will get China to help with North Korea by giving them more favorable trading terms. In other words, to solve a security problem Trump will send some more jobs to China.

    • BadKitty904

      Or pretty much anything that will distract voters from the investigation into my treason with Russia.

    • Rick Hill

      What a great deal maker!

  • Anna Rompage

    Come on North Korea, put us all out of our misery….

    • Hey, think of the Canadians here, fallout doesn’t respect borders, and we’ve done nothing wrong (at least since Trudeau has been in power…)

  • Panika MCD

    silly Dok! if Tsarina Von Clownstick proposed postponing the 2020 election, OF COURSE the Mannity and hot chicks at Fox (should they have any left) would support it. they put tapps in his bunghole just to make sure that no one could support the dumb shit he does before they do! they don’t have to join the bandwagon. they ARE the bandwagon.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      It’s fun to see our calm, measured PMCD let her hair down!

      • Panika MCD

        you’ve never seen me shake my hair down or you would describe it as “sexy” not “fun”.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          That’s completely clear from your silly Dok comment…

          • Panika MCD

            I am both fair and balanced.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            And swear good too

      • Panika MCD

        also too: I have the right. we got off early today because they’re laying Gov. Mark White in state today. for those not in the know: the former governor is the guy who set things up for Ann Richards to run and died the other day.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          well… and you also too did just say got off early AND laying Gov. Mark right…

          • Panika MCD

            don’t make fun of Mark White. he did a lot for public education.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Retracted…

          • Werewolf

            I still think of Molly Ivins (pbuh) calling him Marco Blanco.

          • Panika MCD

            Molly had the class not to make fun of people within a week of their passing.

          • Werewolf

            Not making fun-just sharing a memory. I wish he were governor again, actually.

          • Panika MCD

            me, too. Sen. Watson got to talk to him about politics and Baylor last Friday if it is any comfort.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    The very concept of 2020 is almost naive at this point.

    • tomamitai

      Obviously, we should change the calendar to count the years from the birth of Trump instead of the birth of Christ. After all, what has Jesus made great again?

      • wide_stance_hubby

        A weak no-show for thousands of years. His numbers are a joke and no one is listening to Him anymore. Low energy.

  • TJ Barke

    Fucking projection with these people. Always projection. When they say they’re worried about evil liberals putting them in FEMA camps, it’s fucking because it’s something they want to do to us!

    • BadKitty904

      Yup.

    • handyhippie65

      i’m telling ya, it’s in IMAX 3D.

  • lucidamente

    Objection, Your Honor, assumes facts not in evidence: our continued existence in 2020.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • writersbloc

      man, can’t stop laughing at this.

  • BadKitty904

    As has been mentioned – The Republican Party is America’s greatest enemy.

  • memzilla Ω

    Next WaPo headline:
    53% of Republicans Would Support Nuclear Attack on
    States that Voted for Clinton if Trump Proposed It – Poll

    • Panika MCD

      they can’t just put is in those Walmart FEMA camps Bamz never got around to using?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Maybe, but after they have the back-to-school guns clearance sale so we couldn’t just arm ourselves right there..

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Hmm… How do 50 different elections in 50 different jurisdictions all get stopped? (Plus the 3 or 4 other places that O once referred to and RWNJs went ape over for 8 years)

    • Cosmopolitan John

      Federalism; how the hell DOES it work?

      • Anna Rompage

        Banning abortion and same sex marriage, while legalizing christian based discrimination and marriage to a direct relative?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        I–N–J
        U–N–C
        T–I–O–N–S

        I suppose

    • Panika MCD

      hey, we have more than 50 different jurisdictions because most of the red states push the job off on their counties. it’s called “making the unfunded mandates” which is a much less horrifying version of “bumping uglies” than Evan gave us this afternoon.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Yes, 3000-something counties… but getting Secretaries of State to kibosh … ballots… would be many fewer cats to heard… but, elections on state topics would still need to happen, maybe… hmmm… and those blue places would just do elections anyway… so there’s our Constitutional crisis, in it’s near-terminal form… a Trump refusing to cede power to someone elected by the blue states… where did we see THIS movie before? (well, something like this movie)

        • Panika MCD

          the secretaries of states in states where they pawn off the stuff on local officials only certify the method by which those local officials plan to hold the election, they don’t kibosh ballots. that’s still done at the local level.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            That’s what’s an interesting thing to ponder… how to cancel a presidential election… States/counties aren’t likely to not hold elections of their own, so in places that do go along with the end of the U.S., it seems like either (1) have ballots with no presidential candidates or (2) don’t count ballot entries for the presidential race… But having ballots that are marked for President is too much evidence, so ballots need to be made without that topic line… so…that’s alot of foreshadowing …

          • Panika MCD

            I’m not really following your logic here. of course they’re going to still hold their own elections. even if the country ends, the local jurisdictions don’t–they’d take over. it’d be like leaving someone on the ballot because it’s too late to take them off–there’d still be the candidate on the ballot, less than 1% would vote for them, and they’d focus on who would be the president of their new country.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Agreed. The state and local elections would need happen, which I tried to say. They need them for their own jurisdictional purposes, and cancelling the elections outright would be 3000 different messes.

            Then as to postponing the Presidential part of those elections, the best way to do that is to leave off presidential candidates, in places that support the postponement of the Presidential election. To have presidential votes in those places would be to have all those ballots marked for President, but not counted, which would be too much evidence of an actual election. But some places, say, Blue ones, would have presidential ballot entries, and would count them.

            So kinda like in the 1860 election, you get a regional split… in 1860 you got “north” and “south” states going for respective presidential candidates. This time, you’d have some (blue) states with counted presidential votes, and other states with none… cuz there is no election cuz Trump says he’s staying put. So we are at terminal end point, the votes and electoral college winner would be blocked by the now not elected former president. That’s be a clear reason to walk away, constitutionally…

          • Panika MCD

            that would not happen. do you have any idea how many times we haven’t fixed our election laws or districts down here because “it’s too close to the election”? it would not happen.

          • willi0000000

            eight years from the next election is too soon.

            [ . . . and you have to assume a special election might happen next week ]

          • Panika MCD

            you can’t have a special election in a week. HAVA pushed back how long you had to give the military to vote.

          • willi0000000

            *sob*

            i’m a complete failure at snark.

            *sob*

          • Panika MCD

            well, I am quite a nerd.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Then that’s good, I suppose.. There’s too much jurisdictional inertia to not have a full ballot election?

            I was mostly just trying to figure out how a not election could even happen…

          • Panika MCD

            a nuke gets dropped on us.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    2020! Are you people blind?

    Thanks folks, you’ve been a great crowd, no really. Tip your server and try the squirrel.

    • Panika MCD

      I have 20/10 vision. beat that with a squirrel.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        What you do with your squirrel is your own business. I won’t judge.

        • Panika MCD

          I didn’t say “beat off a squirrel”.

          • OutOfOrbit

            how has hands tiny enough to beat off a…oh…wait…un-uh…

          • handyhippie65

            we all know the answer to that one.

          • Panika MCD

            I spy with my little eye something…atomic tangerine.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_orange

          • SeeTrain65

            “42.”

  • maman

    I am afraid of asking my parentals if they agree with that?

    • alpacapunchbowl

      Oy.
      If that comes up next time I see my mum and she indicates she sees anything remotely positive in the idea, I will ask her if she still has the pocket Constitution I gave her. She knows I constitution better than her, so that usually works.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    WaPo cautions that this is of course only a survey about a hypothetical, and that if Trump actually proposed such a thing, there would almost certainly be “a torrent of opposition, which would most likely include prominent Republicans,” plus probably a financial panic as markets reacted to such an insane proposition.

    I wouldn’t take bets on it.

    • dshwa

      I wouldn’t on the “opposition including prominent republicans” part.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Shorter WaPo: “We’re sorry this makes Republicans look bad. The prominent ones are still pretty cool people though, we are sure.”

  • BJW

    What a fine covfefe we’re in.

    • proudgrampa

      Is that anything like a lovely bunch of coconuts?
      https://youtu.be/Z47NljuPBFE

    • BearWithPreExistingVotes

      Looks more like santorum to me…

  • Latverian Diplomat

    In a followup question, they also support a name change to “The Republic of Gilead”.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    support for democracy delayed

    was also more prevalent among Republicans who were younger

    And there goes my faith in future generations. Fuck.

    • Major_Major_Major

      I have a nephew that just graduated college (so he is educated even) that is a full Trumpkin to the core, I don’t see good things happening anytime soon.

      • Panika MCD

        that’s why we have dungeons in our basements. we are go for “OPERATION RE-EDUCATE”.

      • PubOption

        MBA?

        • Major_Major_Major

          You would think, nope mechanical engineering with a minor in fratbro.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Oh… scary combination… what state was his school?

          • Major_Major_Major

            University of Florida

          • aureolaborealis

            Engineering and Business are equal hotbeds of campus conservatism.

          • Major_Major_Major

            You’re not wrong, sadly. I’m an engineer also, but I would say we, as a profession, are 65/35 conservative to liberal politically. In spite of all the hard science we learned and the baseline liberal arts we had to take.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        What are the roots of his affliction? We got tons of recent grads here who aren’t that way…

        • Major_Major_Major

          I’m the only liberal in the family, but most were never Trumpers. He was rebelling(?)

      • The Librarian

        My spawn are full on Wonkers in training. There’s hope!

    • Panika MCD

      I’m still here.

    • aureolaborealis

      Don’t despair. There are fewer and fewer young Republicans, and they are a self-selected horde of half-wits.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • dshwa

      Quoted that earlier.

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    • proudgrampa

      Oh. My.

      How prescient was that?

    • puredog

      I hate to rain on everybody’s parade (oh, who am I kidding, I love it), but that quote is not entirely accurate. The real quote ends: “. . .their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” But it’s pretty to think so.

      • aureolaborealis

        That caught my eye, too.

  • whitroth

    And I’ve seen an article saying that they primed the pump to get this result.

    Sorry, I’m not as concerned about Pence’s chances in 2020 as I am that the NUTCAKE might start a nuclear war. Like any day now.

    • willi0000000

      how to get a failed presidency* a big share in the history books . . . be the LAST presidency.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    Wink Martindale was better game show host than Trump, and he’d be a better President, too, if only by default.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Of course, our survey is only measuring reactions to a hypothetical situation. Were Trump to seriously propose postponing the election, there would be a torrent of opposition, which would most likely include prominent Republicans. Financial markets would presumably react negatively to the potential for political instability. And this is to say nothing of the various legal and constitutional complications that would immediately become clear. Citizens would almost certainly form their opinions amid such tumult, which does not at all resemble the context in which our survey was conducted.

    Well, here’s hoping…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c607cdf90a11e967296ca48d8e4f3e1ebad8bec9be0b13e85f9e242b58e6b529.jpg

  • Bill D. Burger

    “When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost… All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. ”

    H. L. Mencken ___ The man was a socio-political prophet.

  • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

    “we’d bet those questions about 2016 and illegal voting no doubt primed some respondents to be more open to saying they’d delay an election for such a noble cause.”

    Oh, and the best part is, because they’re so damn convinced we’re cheating, they’re totally ok with cheating to offset our cheating. It’s all our fault, you see.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “If you can’t get the right answer honestly, then cheat. That’s what got me through high school.”
      — A Trumpkin

    • Covfefe

      It is common knowledge among Republicans, at least in Illinois, that the reason the Mayor was able to steal the state for Kennedy in 1960 was that he maneuvered Dirksen into reporting the downstate totals first.

      • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

        Oh, hell, in those days elections were dirty as shit. An operative would come to down, slip the sheriff some cash and Bob’s your uncle. As I understand it, Kennedy literally bought that election.

  • handyhippie65

    if such a thing would happen, i would start a militia, and join the rebellion that would surely take place. but, since i am surrounded by trumpkins who would cheer it, it would be a small group.

    • Wild Cat

      Better just to pony up 1500 bucks and go to Canada to live if you’re still young and strong enough to fight. Seriously.

      • handyhippie65

        a misdemeanor dui 25 years ago keeps me out of canada. they won’t let in anyone with any criminal record of any kind. i already checked.

        • puredog

          Doesn’t your state offer an expungement option? When one expunges a criminal conviction, the law usually provides further that you can properly answer the question “Have you ever been convicted of a crime?” in the negative. Moreover, it falls off the books. Hell, I would not be surprised if Canada could already not find it.

          • handyhippie65

            i don’t know. i never thought about it. since it is all about money, and a second offence is a felony, i seriously doubt it. indiana sux.

          • handyhippie65

            did i mention, they did away with the statute of limitations, here?

    • Panika MCD

      they’re also going to confiscate you guns so you’ll have to be a rock throwing militia. what?

      • handyhippie65

        they’ll have to find where i buried them first. for real.

      • TakingAmes

        The Palestinians have been doing that since ’67.

        • Panika MCD

          do what to who?

    • CindyinEncinitas

      I would join your militia. I’m really mean and I am a good shot. Maybe a bunker would be a good place to start.

      • handyhippie65

        i have a hidey hole for the tornadoes that wander around the countryside, and enough food and water for three months for one person. mebbe i should make it deeper?

        • CindyinEncinitas

          I don’t know. Maybe big enough for a bistro table for two and an armoire with a false bottom for your ordnance and such like?

          • handyhippie65

            it’s 6×9 with 2 feet of dirt on the roof. shelves on one side, and a bench on the other. but for you, i’ll build an annex. ;)

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Awww. I like the smell of dirt. I’ll bring some cute shelf paper to brighten the place up!

          • handyhippie65

            my dad use to use it as a root cellar. it could do with some sprucing up. on a serious note, i may just look into getting a backhoe and making it bigger and deeper, just in case. gee whiz, i never truly thought i would need a bomb shelter. thanx dumpy. i’ll let you know when it is presentable.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            10-4.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    And in a possibly related WaPo link:

    Trump escalates rhetoric on threat from North Korea

    Trump told reporters that his Tuesday statement warning of “fire and fury” may not have been “tough enough,” but even as he stepped up his brinkmanship with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the president sought to reassure anxious people around the world that he has the situation under control.

    “Frankly, the people who were questioning that statement, was it too tough? Maybe it wasn’t tough enough,” Trump said. “They’ve been doing this to our country for a long time, for many years, and it’s about time that somebody stuck up for the people of this country and for the people of other countries. So, if anything, maybe that statement wasn’t tough enough.”

    Asked what would have been tougher than “fire and fury,” Trump replied only: “You’ll see. You’ll see.”

    Oh yeah–I’m relaxed knowing that Donald has this under control!

    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/829/550/a4e.gif

    • The Librarian

      Donald Trump isn’t even in control when he Tweets!!!

    • BJW
    • Catstro

      I expected nothing less from double-down Donny. The only silver lining is that, based on his tweets the day after Mueller served Manafort, I’m going to go ahead and assume that Kush and/or Don Jr had some early morning visitors earlier this week. Trying to be patient, but goddamn Mueller, please dot those is and cross those ts a little faster.

    • puredog

      “You’ll see, you’ll see — it’s like my plan to defeat ISIS in thirty days, only biglier!”

  • The Librarian

    So, Obama supporters never proposed such a thing (except in our hearts), but wingnuts feared it happening. However, wingnuts think it’d be ok if Trump proposed it because non-existent voter fraud. It isn’t too hard to figure out who really hates America, is it?

    • dshwa

      It’s always, always, always projection from the wungnuts.

  • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

    Gee, I seem to recall not that long ago when conservatives pretended this was Obama’s plan. These assholes always fucking project.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zDxJEc0Elg

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot a democracy and I wouldn’t lose voters.

    • proudgrampa

      You just did…

  • Rags

    Martial law, including federalizing all law enforcement and requiring all of them to screen all encounters for illegals, federal ban on abortion and dare Scotus to object, closing all borders to brown immigration, refuse to expend funds on epa, doEd, and other bothersome priests of science, declare war on NK. Would this package do the job?

  • Bill D. Burger

    It would be enlightening to see professional, serious polling done on what percentage of Republicans would favor Trump’s dissolving the United States government, suspending the Constitution, and appointing himself President for Life with the power to rule by decree.
    Sadly, I would bet that it’s about the same as the percentage who are okay with cancelling or postponing the 2020 election.

    This is simply ignorant, stupid and cultish White Trash America’s idea of how you Make America Great Again.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      America hating fascists, every last one of the knuckle dragging, mouth breathing assholes…

  • azeyote

    look what voting got us –

    • BadKitty904

      This isn’t what voting got us. It’s what treason got us.

      • Panika MCD

        that and people who protested by not voting at all or voting for Jill Stein.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          every one of the fuckwits on the Kamala thread need to have their noses rubbed in this

          • Panika MCD

            there are what on the Kamala thread?

      • CindyinEncinitas

        Thank you.

  • BreakingDeadMen

    When the Impeachening starts, I hope they get down to #6 in the chain of command to replace 45*. Not only because that’s how far you have to go to get to someone who isn’t scary as Hell, but also because “Mad Dog 2020” is a great campaign slogan

    • Major_Major_Major

      I am getting a wicked hangover just remembering that shyte.

    • dshwa

      I traumatized the hell out of myself a few weeks ago, when my immediate reaction to “President Orin Hatch” was “I can live with that.”

      • BreakingDeadMen

        Me, too. But, of the first five options, he is easily the best. Not just better than Pence or Ryan, but Tilerson and Mnuchin as well.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Yup, until then they’re all dirty

      • Snopes Shop

        Yeah, at he’s not a War Monger like Shillary!

        • BreakingDeadMen

          They can’t all be Jill Stein or St. Bernard.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        He’s pretty reasonable, relatively speaking.

        • dshwa

          And that’s the scary part of this line of thinking.

          • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

            You mean how we just fell out of the Overton Window in a freak hot tub accident?

      • CindyinEncinitas

        I remember thinking he was the debbil incarnate, and now I think meh. At least he can find Syria on a map.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          make no mistake, he’s a first class douche bag. We just happen to be grading on a curve…

          • BreakingDeadMen

            Well, at least he is first class.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            IKR?

    • georgiaburning

      I voted for it, some years ago

    • Bright Bart

      Well in Battlestar Galactica (best fraking show) it gets down to the Secretary of Education. How would that be eh?

    • Msgr_MΩment

      I think Hindsight will be the watchword in 2020.

  • RMKH

    How about that half just doesn’t vote in protest?

    • jesterpunk

      That is how we got into this mess we are in now.

      • CindyinEncinitas

        In the town of Vista, 2,500 registered Democrats didn’t vote. Issa won the 49th by 1,621 votes.

        • jesterpunk

          That and in Wisconsin 200,000 couldn’t vote and Trump only won the state by 23,000. Between those 2 things that really helped get us into this mess.

          https://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-suppressed-200000-votes-trump-won-by-23000/

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Makes me want to cry.

          • jesterpunk

            That is just one state, it happened in a lot more states when they followed Kobach’s voter id law suggestions or gerrymandered the crap out of the state and had that overturned after the election.

          • That just pisses me off. Fucking Vista.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Well, to be fair, San Clemente handed him the victory. Those guys can go fuck themselves.

          • They’re still in Nixon’s trouser’s up there aren’t they.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            Jesus fuck. And not a thing to do there on a Friday night. So boring.

          • There used to be a decent Mexican place there called The Villa, but that was, you know, back when.

          • CindyinEncinitas

            The Swallows Inn in Capistrano is popular but I’m not a biker. But the New Mandarin something Chinese place has honey walnut shrimp that is a peak dining experience.

          • ….come to think of it, it was in Dana Point.

  • So, this poll boils down to “Are Republicans willing to believe demonstrably false things if it fits their preconceived notions, and what they’re told by shouty people on the TV and radio?” The answer, unsurprisingly, is a solid “yes”.

    • I figured that out when i learned who Rush Limbaugh was

      • Cock Blockula

        I listened to Rush for awhile when he first went national in the late 80s/early 90s. Mostly to laugh my butt off at his callers and his bloviation. He used to say, “You people need to think for yourself. Don’t let anyone (subtext: “the government”) tell you how to think and what to do!” Then to commercial break. Back on the air after the break: “You don’t need to listen to any other source but me. I will do your thinking for you! I have all the information you need to know.” How I used to laugh at the stupidity of his listeners…

        I’m not now.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    Anything starting with, ‘Half of all Republicans. . .’ is going to be awful.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Unless it ends with “launched into the sun,” or perhaps “Police continue to search for the other halves”

  • whitroth

    Wonketteers, I just realized how we can Save the Republic: I mean, if *they* can do Fake News, so can we! The Orange Doody and his staff need to hear that Paul Ryan said he’s a wimp, and that he’s attacking the Turtle of the Senate, but that he’s afraid to attack Ryan (with his abs)….

    We won’t mention that if he attacks Ryan too much, Ryan may let the Bill of Impeachment reach the floor sooner….

  • Joe Beese
  • Zippy W Pinhead

    I said this in an earlier post, but it bears repeating…

    The average GOP voter is now the guy who is standing by the side of the road with a gas can and a road flare… “Sure, I just burned down my own house! But I heard there was a liberal inside, so it was worth it!”

  • willi0000000

    i think the above poll proves that i’m a pure contrarian . . . if republicans are for breathing, i’m for republicans not breathing.

    • jesterpunk

      We can tell them Obama was for breathing, for science.

    • I always wanted Obama to come out strongly against drinking Drano. Because it’s bad.

      2016 wouldn’t have happened.

  • Rick Hill

    So…any hopes trump is backing off his fire and fury remarks? Nope, he’s telling reporters he wasn’t tough enough in his threats.

    • CindyinEncinitas

      Just because he’s more scareder now that he has seen that Mueller’s team can maintain discipline in the ranks. Hell, Manafort’s NEIGHBORS maintained discipline for two weeks! Der Drumpfenburger is fukked!

    • Beanz&Berryz

      And, well, how many times does he need to use the word “tough” to make himself feel tough? FFS

      • Rick Hill

        I think he’s going to back himself into a corner with all his rhetoric.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          I think he’s already in that corner… If NK drops an unarmed missile anywhere between Japan and Guam, Trump will either have to shrink up and slither away, in a last-ditch bit of rationality, or have to start wondering if his indictments from the Hague will arrive before Mueller’s indictments

          • Rick Hill

            I think it’s more likely that NK will do nothing and everyone will be laughing at trump, including NK who is now calling him a senile old man. He’s going to go with what works, save his dignity(sic) by attacking and worry about the fallout(no pun intended) later

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            It’s really frightening that he’ll likely choose to sacrifice Seoul to save his own ass

          • Rick Hill

            That’s about it

          • Beanz&Berryz

            His pride…

        • miss_grundy

          Hopefully, in a padded cell…..

      • miss_grundy

        He best be learning how to speak presidential English…..

        • Beanz&Berryz

          bigly

    • The Librarian

      I’d say let’s put them both in a room and let them duke it out, but Trump isn’t tough enough to tie his own shoelaces and I have no desire to be annexed to N. Korea.

      • miss_grundy

        Hey, you don’t know–he might hit like a girl….

    • miss_grundy

      And his toadies are saying that the remark was “improvisational”. Remember when we used to have a president who was measured in his response to idiots–whether from the Right or North Korea??? Good times…

  • These, of course, would be the same people who swear they love America and the Constitution more than the rest of us and are the REAL Americans.

    Seems like it should be bigger news that a quarter of American voters (give or take) are about one step away from becoming Nazis.

    • BadKitty904

      Except for the “about one step away from becoming“.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Yup, the “I luv Murica” crowd hates America and hates the constitution

    • A step DOWNWARDS. They’d have to clean up their act before the NSDAP would let them in.

  • BearWithPreExistingVotes

    Just point out that this sort of thing is common in Latin America. The Rethugs will drop it like a hot tamale… from a taco truck.

    • The Librarian

      OT, but I had the best tacos from a taco truck last night. And it wasn’t even Tuesday!!!! Score!!!!!!!!!

      • BreakingDeadMen

        I had vegan…tacos on Tuesday at our local brewery. They were really good, they had marinated chanterelles where the meet would go and avocados. I’m not going vegan, but I’d eat them again.

        • CindyinEncinitas

          Phew! You scared me there for a second!

        • The Librarian

          Oooo, those sound yummy!

    • Red Bird

      Not really. They will just say it’s different when they do it.

      • BearWithPreExistingVotes

        IOKIYAR!

  • Paperless Tiger

    He should live so long, with votes.

  • Joe Beese

    Bloomberg reporting that it was probably Manafort who “alerted authorities” to the now-infamous Donald Jr. meeting. Which would explain the ordering of the subsequent National Enquirer hit piece.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/08/10/aha-manafort-told-feds-donald-jrs-meeting-russian-lawyer/

  • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

    A question that has always kind of rested in the back of my head, addressed to any Olds that have living memory of the time before the 80’s:

    Does the country seem more noticeably insane since deinstitutionalization? And related to that, have the Republicans become the way they are because, simply put, a hefty chunk of their voting base is clinically insane?

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      Yes.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Bigly

    • Bebecca

      I think it’s Fox News. Some people only get news from fox and this is the kind of bs they think is true-and I really mean this. I blame a lot of the world’s problems on that network and Roger Ailes.

      • miss_grundy

        That man cannot burn in hell enough….

    • RMKH

      I’m an Oldz. The craziness is cyclical. There was plenty of it on all sides in the 60s (Bull Connor, Weathermen, Manson, Lester Maddox to name a few), and in the late 70s (disco). This seems different in that an entire formerly rational political party seems to be, at a minimum, catering to the insanity.

      • Boscoe

        Or at least, doing it openly now.

        • RMKH

          Back in the day there were admirable Republicans, at least here in the Pacific Northwest – Dan Evans (WA gov), the original incarnation of Mark Hatfield (OR gov and sen before he got a case of the Reaganz), and my favorite pol of all time, Oregon Governor Tom McCall. He saved public beaches, cleaned up the Willamette River, and shepherded through Oregon’s land use planning process. In other words, they’d drum him out of the party now or at least finance some teabagger to run against him.

          • miss_grundy

            Until the Republican party decides to shed the Teabaggers, they will continue their descent toward madness.

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        Interesting. I was curious because, at least to me, there seemed to be a correlation between a huge number of mental ward patients dumped on the street and trusted to take their meds, and the growing irrationality in American politics. Given that the AMA believes that 40 million Americans have a diagnosable mental disorder, it doesn’t seem implausible that our voting public, and thus politics, have gotten literally crazier.

        • RMKH

          There may be something to that, but probably not many people who used to be in institutions do any voting. But the larger point is probably spot on – we’re crazier in general.

        • puredog

          “. . .the AMA believes that 40 million Americans have a diagnosable mental disorder. . .”
          I’m not sure what this means. For instance, nicotine addiction is a diagnosable mental disorder, as well as a lot of other (more benign) behavior patterns. If anything, I’d think the 40% number is low, but I don’t know what it’s supposed to consist of.

    • Jon Sussex

      60 million people voted for the asshole. they’re not all meth-addicted, clinically insane, or inbred. there’s a lot of middle class college grads that chose to make this mess. i haven’t a clue what to do about that except vote.

    • miss_grundy

      I think a hefty chunck of their voting base is suffering from dementia….

    • HarpyLibtart

      I’m blaming lead levels and pervasive low-level fetal alcohol syndrome – think about how many middle-aged and older people went for Trump and then think about how, not that long ago, they grew up in a sea of leaded gasoline fumes, smoking in the home and pretty much no concern for pregnant women drinking and/or taking drugs and you have a whole lot of people who may be just a few crucial bulbs short of a chandelier running the show.

  • TheGrandWazoo2
    • Zippy W Pinhead

      they really do see life that way

    • miss_grundy

      Shouldn’t the pictures be the other way around?????

  • Sorry to say after seeing some of the jaw-dropping whoppers posted by Trumpanzee relatives this does not surprise me.

  • BearWithPreExistingVotes

    If they take away our votes, we will be Without Votes.

    • BadKitty904

      I will be “Canadian”.

  • BigCSouthside

    Whelp. We’re done. Pack this shit up.

    Canada, you’re in charge. Good luck.

    • ltmcdies

      we already got some poor guy out North Korea….don’t know if our Canucks suggested also…”Hey tell, Kim …just ignore the blatherings of the orangeman to south of us…”

  • Mavenmaven

    Looks like Charles Manson will finally get his race based wars as Trump takes us to Helter Skelter.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      That was part of Manson’s thing!?

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Remember when Obama was going to throw everybody in to FEMA camps?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6MDAQAXMAYcIRH.jpg

    • Red Bird

      Not surprised.

      • Blue Belle Ice Cream is fully stocked at our local Kroger, so we’re OK for now.

        If I remember correctly Obama was using their fleet of trucks to transport GOD FEARING AMERICANS to underground internment camps beneath Texas Walmarts.

        Some of my details might be a bit fuzzy.

        • Khavrinen

          Obama was using the extremely sophisticated and devious ploy of having his people drive up to said GOD FEARING AMERICANS and say, “Hey, want some free ice cream?” to lure them in.

          The fiend!!!

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          There’s no seasonal Amaretto Coffee Creamer yet. Not going anywhere until they bring that back.

        • miss_grundy

          I like the mini ice cream cones from Blue Bunny…..

    • …that isn’t real, is it? They would not actually call it an internment camp, right???
      RIGHT?????

      • TJ Barke

        It’s got one of those QR codes, can anybody scan it?

      • miss_grundy

        You are talking about people who FLUNKED history and civic classes. So, yes, these people are STUPID enough to call them internment camps.

  • Crystalclear12

    Only 52%, huh?
    Seems kinda low.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      They haven’t gotten excited by the taste of first blood yet.

  • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

    Jeez, don’t give the shitgibbon any ideas.

  • Boscoe

    Unsurprising really. It’s beyond well established that conservatives are masters of projection and remember, these are the people who were CONVINCED that Obama was going to start a war so he could declare martial law and suspend the constitution. So, war with North Korea in 5… 4… 3… 2…

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    Well, democracy was full while it lasted.

  • Bright Bart

    Again (as it cannot be overstated) 30% of those surveyed are perfectly ok with and even welcome Donald Trump dropping his sexxxxy golf shorts and taking a dump directly in their mouth.

  • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

    O/T
    WHAT IN THE FUCKING FUCKING JESUS FUCK FUCK?

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/895748258882093056

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Oh dear, it appears that John Carney is being triggered by his own employer

    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/895703390495416320/photo/1

    • willi0000000

      “The NYC meetup will gather at Emmett O’Lunney’s O’Lunacy’s

    • Msgr_MΩment

      That woman is such a slut.

  • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

    In deeply ironic twist, Comcast holds keys to global peace. https://t.co/VlcPu84Gii— Dan Zak (@MrDanZak) August 10, 2017

    • HogeyeGrex

      Well, he was half right.

  • netanil

    Resist.

  • BearWithPreExistingVotes

    Thoughts on NK nuclear escalation from a friend who, for reasons I cannot fathom, is Not Yet A Wonker: “He doesn’t have to worry about losing 2020 if there isn’t a 2020”.

    And I realized… holy shitballs… that may be Cheeto’s ACTUAL. THOUGHT. PROCESS.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Maybe not. Thought is not something that takes place in what passes in his deranged brain. He would not care for life in a bunker. There are no golf courses, or golden toilets.
      He does understand the concept of “settlement”, because he settles lawsuits all the time. If someone could convince him it could be framed as a “win” and life would go on as before, he just might back down and leave. Of course that means prying him away from people like Bannon, Miller, and Kushner.

  • A multitude of Republicans/Cons seem to be conditioned like Pavlov’s dogs to salivate and bark in a mindless manner when they hear a dog whistle stimulus; a dog whistle stimulus such as “Clinton e-mails”, or “Repeal & Replace”, or “Obama”, was a never-fail energizer of the GOP base. It’s no wonder that the same conditioned multitude is such an easy mark for a con man like Don the Con.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
    https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhqumfpxuzI

  • aPo cautions that this is of course only a survey about a hypothetical, and that if Trump actually proposed such a thing, there would almost certainly be “a torrent of opposition, which would most likely include prominent Republicans,”
    I can hear Lindsey now, saying how deeply disturbed he is

    • Old town Urbandale

      Hell, they’re all deeply disturbed. Their supporters are as well.

    • miss_grundy

      And clutching his pearl necklace…..

  • Bijou

    Attention all Trump-loving dumbasses: The undocumented are not going to risk imprisonment or deportation to vote. That’s just common fucking sense.

    However, their American citizen children WILL be able to vote when they come of age, and they’ll remember just how shitty you treated their parents. So, enjoy that…

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    Something like this was briefly discussed by the neocon/Bush crowd in 2004, using the war and 9-11 as an excuse. They dropped it very quickly.
    There’s probably that 25% of the US population who are authoritarian who’d welcome a right wing dictatorship at any given time. That doesn’t mean they’re going to get it.

    • HogeyeGrex

      It certainly doesn’t stop them from trying, though.

  • Portia McGonagal

    These are the same ACME geniuses who were wigging out insisting President Obama was going to cancel the 2016 election, declare martial law and have an indefinite third term. But this is all good.

    • HogeyeGrex

      IOKIYAR

    • Fartknocker

      Guns. Don’t forget guns. And Sandy Hook was fake news. And vacations in Hawaii. And Bill Ayers is a anarchist.

  • What a filthy CMW comment

    Actually managed to delete my old account somehow. Oops…

    Anyway, here’s my new identical new shiny one. And my shiny two cents are:

    Yeah, this authoritarian, dictatorial claptrap isn’t particularly surprising. There are a surprising number of people who claim to love America yet hate the Constitution and everything it stands for.

    • Peripatetic Poltroon

      Now, now. Most of them have the 2nd amendment tattooed on their genitals.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Usually just the numeral 2. In crayon.

        • HogeyeGrex

          Gold sharpie.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            TM

        • Komsumverweigerer Ron

          Hey, it’s not like there’s room for anything else. And at that, it needs to be a SHARP crayon.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      They hate only the parts that don’t relate to guns. Or the relate to giving people not them any rights.

    • Hardly Ideal

      And they’re usually the ones who proclaim their love the loudest.

    • Swampgas_Man

      When NPR tweeted the Declaration of Independence, millions dozens protested.

    • What a filthy CMW comment

      Would appreciate it if any very kind and snarky Wonketters could share this around places:

      https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-discussdisqus/bug_reports_feedback_account_inaccessible_yet_not_deleted/

      My old accounts comments are now appearing as ‘this has been deleted’ here on other threads and I’d rather have access to that account back.

    • Keith Taylor

      Starting with the First Amendment and leaping to the Fifteenth. And even where their beloved Second Amendment is concerned, guns guns and more guns, they tend to overlook the bit that says the right of the people to bear arms should be protected because of the need for “a well-regulated militia”.
      Well-regulated? These loons? Somehow I cannot see it.

  • mancityRed6

    I tried, I swear to dog I did try to read a national review piece that attempted to rebut this. and it was mostly “both sides”, which is bullshit.
    oh, someone tried to get legislation to give Obama the chance to serve a third term? and the idea that those of the Democratic persuasion would have polled the same numbers in a hypothetical strawman argument about whether or not they would have been fine if the question had been Obama rather than tRump?
    my eyes just cannot roll anymore, so my sighs of “lord jeebus, this man is stupid” echoed through the building.

  • andyshelt

    “Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote…..
    Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). ”

    And in unrelated news, Fox announce a new game show.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a6c9f690ce7b3425f3fe61551ab53082e25cf0dbcd111e50fc21bcd6df16bbeb.jpg

    • Keith Taylor

      Typical liberal bias! This cartoon depicts Jeannie, the woman, giving the right answer, while Kevin, a man, gives the wrong answer and bellows it loudly! I contend that this presents knuckle-dragging big-mouthed lechers like me in a bad light — truthfully! Unfair!

  • canes_pugnaces

    Why not suspend the constitution until Putin can run?

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      That’s Plan B.

  • Relativicus

    This is why it is so important for dem Dems to reach out to, and really try to understand, Trump supporters… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d957a4308e50418d3e5103593b41122ececc124ba12dcc000e1d75692f9647e8.gif

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Yeah, I gave up on that after this election.

      • Keith Taylor

        Probably a good idea, for your own safety. Reach out to, and really try to understand, Trump supporters — and a certain percentage of them would shoot you. I still go to the President Trump Channel now and then in an effort to understand, and come away mumbling, “Nothing to understand. They’ll believe anything and accept anything, so long as Mexicans and Muslims get battered with clubs.” Judas fucking Iscariot, they are even okay with nukes.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          They’re OK with postponing the 2020 election. They are insane idiots.

  • Ωbjectifier

    Illegal immigrant=someone who votes different than me.

  • boyblue123

    Keep in mind that about 25% of the population still “strongly approves” Trump, which comes out to roughly half of all republicans.

    Basically all the brain dead zombies that still love Trump are ok with fascism which doesnt come as a big surprise

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      the TX mom read me a quote from one of her books today:

      “If he were twice as smart, he’d be a halfwit.”

  • OrdinaryJoe
    • #that so called president :)

      HAHAHAHAHH!

      Cool!

  • puredog

    You’re not tricking me. I give you money, they’ll come after me later. My momma didn’t raise no cabbagehead.

  • miss_grundy

    Jesus Christ! Why don’t these assholes just move to Russia already? They are as stupid as the fool in the White House!

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    This country is made up of rubes, and the people who are happy to fleece them. Trump better be out on his ass in 2020.

    • clairence

      “by” Don’t you mean, “by 2020”.

  • Me not sure

    WAITWAITWAIT!….Didn’t these know nothings accuse Obama of wanting to do the same thing so he could stay in office for a third term? Wasn’t that supposed to be the worst thing ever? AAACCCCCKKKKKK!

    • Khavrinen

      Always remember, IOKIYAR. No matter how pearl-clutching-ly atrocious it is when a Dem does it, if an R does it response ranges from “meh” to “Woo-Hoo!”.

    • ⭐️ BRAINTHRUST 5000 ⭐️

      No, see that was BAD fascism. This is GOOD fascism.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        GOOD fascism is called Patriotism.

        • Lord Jim

          “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” – John Boswell

    • Keith Taylor

      It was supposed to be the worst thing ever and also it was something Barack Obama wasn’t even remotely planning except in the dim recesses of wingnuts’ warped imaginations. This is apparently the best thing ever and is also something Donald Trump MIGHT start planning — now that someone has been ill-advised enough to give him the idea. I have no response, except to copy yours, Me not sure. AAACCCCCKKKKKK!

  • norcalOG

    These must be the “strict constructionists” who profess undying love for their country and the Constitution.
    One other possibility: follow the rules xample set by that little German guy who simply outlawed the duly elected representatives from TWO parties he didn’t like from taking their seats in the legislature. Problem solved.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Remember how one of the top wingnut fears during Barack Obama’s tenure as president — after, of course his plan to take away your guns and/or to impose sharia law

    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/193/273/403.jpg

    • miss_grundy

      I’m sure there are quite a few menfolk out there who wouldn’t mind Shakira Law in America because “hips don’t lie”.

      • Canis Greyhame

        When DJ Khaled imposes Shakira Law, everyone will have to work those hips and booty to the beat of Wild Thoughts.

        • HarpyLibtart

          Look, DJ Khaled seems like a genuinely nice guy…if he were to somehow overthrow Trump with the power of positivity and booty raps, I feel like I would be OK with it for awhile.

      • Keith Taylor

        I’m not a U.S. citizen. But I sort of wouldn’t mind Shakira law in Australia. I have now and then observed Shakira quivering those hips and had decidedly lewd thoughts. Does this make me a bad person?

        • miss_grundy

          Nope. You just like “hips that don’t lie”. 😉😉😉

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      LOL and the guy on the left is a pretty famous DJ.

    • clairence

      brought to you by “Christians for Michele Bachmann”
      of course.

    • #that so called president :)

      HAHAHA

      Then I’ll take him over that grand dragon ANY DAY!

      FC DRUMP!

  • OrdinaryJoe
    • Beanz&Berryz

      Or… Man too stupid to work hat…. If only there was someone to show him how to work it…

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Modern technology is too difficult for some. I hope he’s in the Mooo side and not on the Mech side.

    • Nasty Girl Brianna

      Texas A&M. Of course.

      • Old Man Yells at Cloud

        A-holes and Morons?

        • Invisible Bunyip

          Amphetamine and Methadone.

    • Steve Cole

      To be fair, hats were not in his major.

    • Odd Jørgensen
      • clairence

        tbh, I often bring an umbrella when I walk the dog, and I use it (the umbrella, not the dog) as a sort of walking cane, even if it’s raining lightly. I won’t usually open it (again, the umbrella) unless it really starts to pour.

    • Nockular cavity

      Shrug. Aggie.

      • Moar Wordz

        LOOK. Not sure if this is you trying to be wily and call me out by dropping the first initial of my name, but I fucking well am SMART, PROUD, & UNAPOLOGETIC. Deal w/it !!!! ONLY pussies slander anonymously on the ‘net

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    oh FER FUCK’S SAKES!

    that is all.

    • boredcatlady

      Same

  • Ryan Denniston

    The answer is always projection. All those fears about Jade Helming America? We should have known!

  • Delu

    And this is why I have more confidence that Americans would vote Trump back into office come 2020 than I have in them doing otherwise.

  • lroom

    I’m so sick of these fucking people.

  • AuntyMaude

    G.D.-it! Stop giving these barf nards ideas, WaPo. We have enough trouble without borrowing it. Fux News will pick this story up and give the head barf nard horrifying (for us) thoughts.

  • bluicebank

    Ya’ll ain’t seeing the silver lining here.

    Trump declares “postponement” of the 2020 elections. We bot the hell out of it, and the morans don’t vote, because, not a real election. Dems sweep.

    Seriously, we need to abandon the ancient tack of reasoning with these people. Art of war: turn their strength against them. Fake news. Trump suspends election; stay home. It could work.

    • HazooToo

      See, as much as I am TIRED AS FUCK of hearing “when they go low, we go high”, cheating ain’t the way. “When they go low, BURY THEM.” But by the book. So they have to face it that they’re just not good enough to win unless they literally court treason.

    • Tasha Naraganza, of Spain

      We won’t even have to help it along. Trump would say it, and the imbeciles would all stay home celebrating.

  • Jeff Mc Donald

    How is it that people not being able to vote is a threat to democracy? It’s not like a Constitutional guarantee our anything.

  • Me not sure

    I’m shocked by the depth of the stupidity in these polling results…and stunned! Very stunned.
    https://youtu.be/kgttPt_1IG0

  • unionthuggery

    Republicans; they just crave a big dictator.

    • norcalOG

      Many are true monarchists. In another time, they would have sung the praises of Kng George III and joined their friends in offering bounties on scum like Adams and Hancock

      • SadDemInTex

        And then moved to Canada when they lost.

        • tex7

          Hey, my grandmother descends from the Scots who left New York for Ontario after the war, 1812 or Revolutionary, I’m not sure. I love my Grandma.

          • SadDemInTex

            I have ancestors who were Royalists and moved to Canada after the Revolutionary War. The same family lineage has a lieutenant American RevolutionaryArmy. So a SAR married into a traitor family. And this DAR eligible married into another traitor family (my spouse is a Mayflower descendent whose ancestor was another Royalist).

    • lurch394

      I see what you did there. Good one.

    • NotDarkYet

      Too bad they got a small-fingered vulgarian …

  • LithiumION

    I’ve said it elsewhere, I would join an open riot in the street if this went down.

    Without a second thought. From “Hey, honey, can I finish the orange juice?” to *throws half-lit gas can with rag in it through the state capitol’s front doors*

    Tree of liberty needs some watering, you wall-eyed, squirrel-eating motherfuckers.

    • clairence

      I agree with the sentiment. Not sure torching the state capitol will help with federal decision-making.

      I’m still trying to figure out how the anti-government militias will line up to defend the government from anti-authoritarian riots.

      • redarmyzombie

        I’m willing to bet most of them wouldn’t, on account of them being cowards…

  • Komsumverweigerer Ron

    To quote that eminent philosopher Bender Bending Rodriguez: Yep, you’re boned.

  • SadDemInTex

    1. It won’t happen. 2. They will ramp up ID laws 3. They will rig voting machines. Republican law makers don’t need no stinkin “postponement”

  • Kgprophet

    I start trying to conceptualize the idea of MILLIONS of people loaded on to buses, somehow surreptitiously being added to the voting rolls, amazingly going unnoticed by Republican observers as they all sneak MILLIONS of extra votes for Hillary. But, how do they get all these false IDs? But, but, do you know how many busloads of people that
    would be driving around unnoticed? How could something that would require an insane level of meticulous organization somehow go off without a hitch? And, but, and, how is there not one shred of paper or photo evidence? Millions? Really? Really?

    I. Want. To. Scream.

    • ZangoCrudmonger

      Indeed. Might as well go full Sagan and claim billions and billions.

      I have been routinely encountering adults who don’t know what 5×15 is. Is America really getting this fucking stupid? (yes, it seems)

    • Kooolest G

      the crazy thing is they’re convinced that 3 million messicans voter frauded in california, a state that hillary was all but guaranteed to win and where the 2 candidates for the senate seat were BOTH LIBERAL DEMOCRATS! why on earth would someone commit a felony and risk deportation so that the popular vote total would make trump feel bad? these are the same people that think Obama’s mom planted a fake birth announcement in a hawaiian newspaper, the only reason being so he could run for president instead of just giving birth to him in Hawaii, where she lived.

  • clairence

    “strongly identified with the party” means they’re fans and cheerleaders for their favorite team. Nationalism at the party level — is that called partyism?

  • #that so called president :)

    ???? Hey White Trash

    I’m a Mexican-American Vet, college educated, and I vote!

    I own a large home, not a trailer home, and drive nice cars!

    I sleep with as many White right wing chicks as I can just so their daddy’s can see me with them, and Love it!

    Did I tell you I VOTE, and have millions behind me….DEAL WITH IT!

    LOL

    • Th’ottest curry in th’ouse

      Why do you want their daddy’s can to see you?

      • lurch394

        They’re so rich they can afford cans with eyeballs.

      • #that so called president :)

        REALLY!? I’ve seen some rednecks nearly have a heart attack because he thinks he might have a half Brown grandchild! LOL You must not be White!

    • Debmcd

      My husband is half Mexican with an Irish last name, however will they be able to tell that he’s Mexican so they can take him off the rolls?

      • #that so called president :)

        Why, would he hide it? I’m proud of my heritage! we are not the animals some would like to believe! They have a past I wouldn’t want… If he does have an issue…FC HIM! If not God Bless him!

  • Tasha Naraganza, of Spain

    “In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it.”
    Well, that sure would reduce the Republican turnout in the 2020 elections.

  • JCfromNC

    This “suspend the elections” thing has been going on for a while. I remember a lot of fellow libs being worried that Chaney would find some War on Terra prefix to declare martial law, too. But I think things have gotten worse since then, and that Drumpf’s just egotistical/stupid enough to try it. And his Deplorables will go right along with it, if (as said above) they see it as sticking it to the libs, blacks, and Messicans.

  • Nockular cavity

    So…NOT “with votes?”

    • VirginiaWackelpudding

      We can do that, but it will be their call.

  • Ricardo Madrazo-Sechrist

    youze guys really need to let the Kris Kobach Komission do its work to get to the bottom of this rampant voter fraud.

    • Sakonyachen

      Seeing the three Ks made me look up his middle name to see if it was Kevin.

  • Willem Oosterhof

    See, Trump is learning how to govern like Maduro in Venezuela.

  • geoffalnutt

    Of course Repiglicons will try to delay the election. Anything to stay in power. Watch Mitch McConnell closely.

    • Debmcd

      Even though they absolutely freak whenever a Dem is in office about them cancelling elections, Republicans would love for one of their own to go ahead and cancel elections because everyone knows that will keep this illegitimate administration in power until Trump feels like leaving, if ever.

      • Sakonyachen

        Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders are working on removing him as we speak.

  • BFD

    Every one knows the Statue of Liberty is the French Trojan Horse. There are tens of thousands of frogs in there waiting for the decisive moment to burst forth with 260 different kinds of cheeses and totally collapse our ability to govern ourselves. Don’t say you weren’t warned.

  • Carole

    I wondered why they were proposing “Mike Pence 2024.” (These are the same people who claimed that Obama was going to declare martial law and refuse to step down).

  • Fusilier 0770

    This poll confirms my thoughts on right wingers. For all the blustery bullshit about freedom, liberty, the Constitution, and rugged individualism that they spewed from their mouth holes when Obama was President, conservatives are pretty comfortable with authoritarianism as long as they are the authority.

  • VirginiaWackelpudding

    They don’t really want to do this for several reasons. One is that there aren’t enough militias to combat the entire country. Two is that rigging the voting machines is sooo easy and no bloodshed is necessary. Never use more energy to solve a problem than you absolutely have to.

  • Zyxomma

    WHY is anyone talking about 2020? I’m voting in the primary for NYC Council fairly soon, and in the general after that. I’m voting in the 2018 Congressional election, a/k/a the midterms. One of the most important ways Democrats can win elections is educating voters to vote in EVERY election, every year. Voting should not be an every-four-years-thing. It’s one of the ways Republicans win. It’s called turnout. Show up, people. Vote.

  • shocktreatment

    So, howzabout we just pretend that the election is off, just tell the tiny brained folk, “Nope, no votee this year, maybe next!”

  • Internet Hitler

    It’s only fair.
    I would be 100% fine with canceling the 2016 election.

  • Empress of the Iguana People

    I am reminded of when i was student teaching and some of my students were insisting that catholism was the largest religious group in the US. Granted, they were 13 year olds in a heavily Catholic area.

    • toughsister

      Catholics ARE the single largest christian denomination in the US at 77.4 million

      • E.A. Blair

        Denomination or cult?

  • Amy!

    Well, this displays a reasonable consistency, at least.

    Trumpublicans want to subsidize coal mining, because they think they’ll bring back in-person coal mining. Not gonna happen; automation rules.

    And they think that someone has already brought back high-paying jobs in the rapidly-growing field of in-person electoral fraud! No, no, again, automating it (for instance, own the company that makes the machines, and shop the exploits to discreet and deep-pocketed fuckheads) is not only far more effective, it’s also going to help enrich a tiny number of the already wealthy, rather than spreading the wealth around!

    ‘Merica!

  • Maybe

    At this point we can probably count ourselves lucky that it’s only half of them.

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