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Well, this is fucking tragic. Late Saturday night, 40-year-old yoga instructor Justine Damond called police to report a suspected sexual assault in the alley behind her Minneapolis home. Minutes later, the responding officers killed her. An unarmed, middle-aged woman in her pajamas was so threatening that a cop reached across his partner and fired his gun through the door of the squad car. The bullets entered Damond’s stomach, and she died almost immediately.

Mysteriously, neither officer had activated his body camera, and the shooting wasn’t captured by the dashcam either. After Minneapolis police killed Jamar Clark in 2015 and St. Anthony’s police shot Philando Castile in suburban St. Paul last year (thanks for the edit, Skwerl!), the department spent $6 million to buy body cameras for all its officers. Minnesota’s Star Tribune reports there is no way to accidentally fail to record a lethal event:

The Minneapolis Police Department’s Policy and Procedure manual says that any use of force requires the camera’s activation. If things change quickly and the officer is too busy, he or she should activate the camera “as soon as it is safe to do so,” according to the manual.

The cameras constantly record a 30-second video buffer, a so-called “lookback” that allows officers to capture whatever happened in the half-minute before it’s activated.

The two officers had thirty seconds after the shots were fired to record the incident. But neither of them activated his camera.

WHAT THE FUCK?

Ms. Damond had immigrated from Australia to be with her fiancé, whom she was planning to marry next month. Damand’s family back in Sydney are demanding to know how she ended up dead, and the shooting has become an international incident.

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Minneapolis Police Chief Janeé Harteau released a statement of condolence and called for an independent investigation:

And everyone tried to pretend that this was just another tragic police shooting.

Except Justine Damond was a middle-class white lady.

Unlike Sandra Bland.

Or Rekia Boyd.

Or Philando Castile.

Or Jamar Clark.

As NY Daily News’s Shaun King put it:

This weekend in Minneapolis, I believe police brutality jumped the racial fence when a beautiful, blonde haired, white woman, Justine Damond, a yoga and meditation instructor from Australia, who was just a few weeks away from getting married, was shot and killed by a Minneapolis police officer outside of her home.

All of a sudden, police brutality isn’t over there in some bad, brown neighborhood. Now it’s here in White People Land. Or, as NAACP activist and Minneapolis mayoral candidate Nekima Levy-Pounds told the Washington Post:

Many of us who have been on the front lines have been warning the public, saying if they would do this to our fathers and our sons and our brothers and our sisters and our mothers, they will do it to you next. I really hope that this is a wake-up call for this community to stop allowing things to be divided on the lines of race and on the lines of socio-economic status.

This put Fox News in a pickle. Normally they would trot out Rudy Giuliani to say all those black people need to do to stay alive is be respectful of the police and obey orders, like he did after the Dallas police shootings:

“There’s too much violence in the black community,” he said. “[I]f you want to deal with this on the black side, you’ve got to teach your children to be respectful to the police and you’ve got to teach your children that the real danger to them is not the police; the real danger to them, 99 out of 100 times, 9,900 out of 1,000 times, are other black kids who are gonna kill them. That’s the way they’re gonna die.”

Fox host Eric Bolling would swear the victim had been shouting and banging on the squad car. Steve Doocy would say, “Those poor cops had no way of knowing if she had a gun tucked in the waistband of her jammies!” And Sean Hannity would speculate she was probably the babymama of the Dallas sniper who shot five cops.

EXCEPT …

Oh, right.

But then Fox realized that the shooter was a black, Muslim immigrant from Somalia. And their prayers were answered!

The officer, identified by his attorney on Monday as Somali-American Mohamed Noor, said in a statement that he came to the U.S. at a young age and that he believes being a police officer is his calling.

So Fox will either ignore the story entirely, or spend the day accusing this guy of being an ISIS infiltrator. Their other option is to cover the implosion of Mitch McConnell’s plan to free Americans from the burdens of healthcare, so expect to hear a lot about Officer Noor.

Everything is awful, and we are sad. As Damond’s stepson Zach Damond said in a video posted to Facebook,

I’m so done with all this violence. America sucks. These cops need to get trained differently. I need to move out of here.

YEAH.

[Minneapolis Star Tribune / NY Daily News / WaPo / HuffPo / Fox]

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  • MynameisBlarney

    Cops just can’t stop murdering people.

    • Wild Cat

      Training = infrastructure.
      We don’t do infrastructure. That’s for normal countries.

    • MamaBrown

      And people were just fine with that as long as the people they were murdering were brown. Now let the pearl clutching begin.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Right?
        Now the frightwingers are gonna chime with their faux concern.

        • Celtic_Gnome

          Since the cop’s a dark-skinned furriner with a Muslim name, it’s fine to throw the cops under the bus on this one.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Oh yeah, they’re gonna burn him at the stake since he’s not white, racist and xtian.

          • Ill-Advised

            I’m honoring BITTER and STRONG today. Because whatever story both these cops tell, they both deserve felony convictions. BOTH. Because the cameras would have shown something ugly that we needed to see.

  • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

    This is probably going to be the only moment in the history of right-wing media where they go after the officer. Not because of what he did, of course. But because he’s the “wrong” type of officer, IYKWIM.

    • Angry Red Bird DGAF

      Not so sure. The cop in New York was Asian and he wasn’t punished. The cops in Baltimore were black and they were acquitted. The only difference is the victim isn’t a black person. THAT might be enough to make a difference.

    • Michael Smith

      The combination of pretty white victim and scary black immigrant Muslim police officer tips the scales decisively against the officer for wingnuts. They claim to love the police, but in reality they just love that the police function to maintain a certain racial status quo. If an officer’s identity and actions appear to be in violation of this mission, they’ll cast that officer aside without a second thought.

      They’ll be calling this officer a secret terrorist before noon today.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      But she was A Immygrunt, and teh blah cop was A Immygrunt too, but blah. This is a toughie.

  • I bet she smoked the reefer once in her life, so therefore she was a dangerous psychotic drug fiend who was charging the cop car with superhuman strength.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      She’s a yoga instructor for crissakes. She must have been high as a kite on crack and pot.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I hear them yoga instructors have such control over their bodies that they can suck liquids up in a straw with their hoo-haws.

  • unagidon

    Pam Geller is already on the case. Somali cop. Blonde woman. QED. She’s such an asshole.

    http://pamelageller.com/2017/07/somali-muslim-cop-kills-damond.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      I would object only on the ground that assholes have uses. No known use has been found for Pamela Geller.

    • Wild Cat

      I won’t click.
      She was degenerate sight on NYC subways before the Iraq II Farce began with her signs taunting Teh Islamic Loving Libtards.
      The cars always smelled better after she exited.

    • MynameisBlarney

      The word “Harridan” comes to mind, but I’m not sure if that’s harsh enough.

      • Wild Cat

        Paranoid John Bolton–fucker is the actual term for a Pam Gellar.

      • Three Finger Salute

        H, A, double R, I, D-A-N, spells Harridan
        Proud of all the hatred that’s within ‘er
        Proud to be a thirties-style Berliner
        H, A, double R, I, D-A-N, God damn,
        She’s a scam like Ken Ham,
        And she only singles out Islam.
        Harridan — that’s Pam!

    • Michael Smith

      “If a blonde cop killed a Muslima, we would all be raked over the coals. There would be marches and calls for sharia legislation and gd knows what.”

      Yep. This story will literally pose absolutely no problem for their worldview. Its not police brutality. Its political correctness and our liberal politicians’ refusal to treat Muslims as the threat they truly are, and the double standard that prevents the nation from being outraged when a white woman is killed, but justifies rioting and window breaking when a black woman is killed.

    • Edith Prickly

      I’m not giving that deranged Gorgon any clicks. I’m pretty sure I already know what it says anyway.

    • Michael Smith
  • canes_pugnaces

    This story is so horrific, as are the others. Incompressible comes to mind. And as this blurbette points out: a black person is fingered as the scapegoat, only this time he’s a cop. Why can’t it just be that cops see too many guns in poor neighborhoods, they are poorly trained and supervised, and we live in fucking America where violence and injustice are hardwired.

    Nevermind.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      More gunz would fix the problem. There aren’t enough gunz.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        If she had a gun she could have…shot the supposed rapist dead and never had to have called the cops? I’m at a loss here

        • Ghenghis McCann

          “If she had a gun she could have…” given the cops the excuse that she was armed and threatening them?

        • Beanz&Berryz

          I don’t know either. The possible assault victim coulda/shoulda shot her assailant, the shot woman coulda shot the bad guy, the shot woman coulda shot the cop, who’s black. Do many gun solutions.

  • Michael Smith

    Oh yeah the fact that the officer is a black Muslim immigrant is literally a dream come true for them. This will only reinforce their world view. They’ll say police departments need to do a better job of screening applicants, not for violent or white supremacist tendencies, but for “radicalization,” etc. We can’t have members of our police force hating whites.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    And also too,it’s only the sad disappearances of attractive young blonde women we hear about. I guess other women don’t disappear.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Denny Hastert released from prison. Justice for white people.

    • Wild Cat

      I’ll have to wrestle with this for a while. In the closet.

      • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

        His lawyer must have gone to the mat for him.

    • schmannity

      Hide the children!

    • SayItWithWookies

      What the fuck – can’t we let an evil, well-connected pedophile die in prison once in a while?

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Tragic, but this has been front page news for a few days. Notice how no one has argued that maybe she was being aggressive or going for a gun. Hmmmmm. Probably because that excuse only works for black folks. Again, I’ll post this insightful clip from the late Patrice O’Neal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKJ2z7mecQ

  • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

    Psst $5F a correction. Philando Castile was shot by the St Anthony Police, which is a different police department in a St Paul suburb.

    • Fivedollarfeminist

      Fixed! Thank you!

  • OutOfOrbit

    Top cop sends his condolences. Now isn’t that special. Also it’s not just the training that need to change, but the profile of applicants to weed out (most of) the FUCKS!

  • folderol

    well, finally: it looks like a cop is going to be held accountable. and to think all that had to be done was to switch the colors around.

  • Covfefe’s Evil Twin

    I’m so done with all this violence. America sucks. These cops need to get trained differently. I need to move out of here.

    Nothing to add besides fuck this place.

  • The Wanderer
    • Ill-Advised

      Yea. Thank you.

  • ariel_gee_398

    Here’s the thing – even if they arrest and try this officer, he’ll probably get acquitted too, because police are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. Was his fear reasonable justification for using deadly force? To us, obviously not, but given the way we train cops, absolutely.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Remember, civilians who use deadly force must remain calm at all times or face charges. But trained police officers can panic, shoot someone, and then use that panic as a defense.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        THIS

    • Weird Fishes

      Y’know, I have to wonder. This would be the perfect opportunity for a show trial to show that cops are also going to be held accountable.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      White chicks scare me too.

  • TJ Barke

    It’s almost like itchy trigger fingered authoritarian fucksticks aren’t great at protecting and serving…

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Nobody, not even pretty white ladies, are safe in this country while the police apply the shoot-first-ask-questions-later mentality to all situations. I blame (at least in part) the focus shift to militarization and money dumped into policing post 9/11 all in service for “fighting terrorism.” Great, now the terror comes directly from our own local jurisdictions.

  • Belasaurius

    black. muslim. immigrant. Holy shit, the Fox News trifecta. Cleanup in Hannity’s pants!

  • Darlene Underdahl

    Are military veterans given preference in law enforcement? That might explain a trigger-happy attitude.

    • Belasaurius

      except that in the military, there are rules of conduct when it comes to discharging a weapon. Those rules are FAR MORE STRICT than the training cops get.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Prezactly. Also, too, there are CONSEQUENCES for failure to follow those rules in the military. In the civilian LEO world, apparently, not so much.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      They are indeed, though the trigger-happiness can also be tied to the “control the situation” training given to officers (which encourages wildly out-of-proportion responses to any situation) and the rampant abuse of steroids in station houses.

    • shivaskeeper

      Not where I am. The fact of the matter is the police in this country have a much loser set of ROE than I ever had in a war zone. As Villago said, they also seem to have no consequences for violation the lax rules they do have.

    • Fancy Meau-Faux

      I think you are incorrect on this. I’ve never seen a military history mentioned for any of the police that have shot Innocents. If anything I think the opposite would be true, military training is all about not making bad decisions under extreme stress.

      • marxalot

        I know a lot of vets who try to get into the force– because they can carry a gun, and they think it’ll give them the structure they’re used to. When the PD turns out to be poorly run, with bad ROE and no clear means of making a decision, it gets ugly.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    I’m just trying to picture what on EARTH could have compelled that guy to shoot her. The shooting of Philando Castile, for instance, was wrong, but at least there were some mitigating circumstances – i.e. a description of someone similar in the area, the presence of a gun, the possibility of something out of sight.

    But a woman in her pajamas? Standing on a lawn?

    • ariel_gee_398

      They found a cell phone near her body, she probably had it in her hand as she advanced towards the cop car to explain what happened.

      • OutOfOrbit

        Not a fucking excuse.

        • ariel_gee_398

          Obviously not, but in the “everyone is out to kill us” mentality we instill in cops, a civilian holding anything is a threat to be neutralized.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            Which is why we have a problem. These guys think that they’re working in a war zone.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            And, apparently do their best to make it true.

          • OutOfOrbit

            Cowardly: when in doubt, empty your sidearm into the perceived (possible) threat.

          • Augustus

            “we?”

          • ariel_gee_398

            We as the government. It’s part of their government-funded job training.

        • Maggielle

          No kidding. Who wouldn’t have a cell phone in their hand these days? Especially when you’ve just called 911.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        OOoohh. Hadn’t thought of that. Still a bad shooting, obviously, But it reminds me: around cops – hands empty, arms still. I probably would have made the same “mistake” she did.

        • Maggielle

          It seems like her mistake was being brave enough to call 911 to try to stop what sounded like an assault happening behind her home, and courageously going out there to do what she could to help law enforcement stop a potential crime, when everyone knows she should have stayed inside, turned up the volume on the television, and later tell investigators she “didn’t want to get involved”. Maybe being Australian and a yoga instructor delayed her adjustment to American bunker mentality? Jesus fuck. Maybe we should call the fire department instead of the police?

        • Robert Gibson

          As an Australian in the US, I guarantee that it would *never* occur to her that she might get shot for holding her phone. Particularly when SHE CALLED THE POLICE in the first place!

          Our police might not be perfect, but shootings are rare (and getting more rare over time). Often our police don’t even keep their guns with them.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33e5e3df3710429bec80e16a6edd1af5bdb2ad7e2d9db02ded273b2c6f58a1fc.png

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Obviously, she was big for her age, and was carrying Skittles.

      • P’jama Pahnts

        maybe her pjs had a hoodie…?

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Any word on whether her PJs had a hoodie? No, well, were they at least footies?

      I’ve also been wondering what would possess someone to see a middle aged white lady standing in her PJs and say “I better shoot this woman, because she is scaring me!”

  • Belasaurius

    America, fuck yeah!

  • canes_pugnaces

    This is a tricky one. Blue lives matter. No, Blue-white lives matter. Nope. White lives matter, but blue people who are brown people don’t matter, only white and blue lives matter. OK, the default: only white lives matter, unless they’re liberal.

    A whiter shade of blue is the answer. So speaketh the GOP.

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      Do you have a color wheel I could look at?

    • Michael Smith

      Yeah, they’ll burn this cop at the stake and start arguing that Muslims need to be disarmed, and that police departments should be prohibited from hiring them.

      • canes_pugnaces

        I agree. Although, honestly, from the little that’s come out, he deserves to burn. What’s sad is that so have the white-blue cops.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      So…only Red(neck) Lives Matter?

    • Michael Smith

      “only white lives matter, unless they’re liberal”

      That makes me think.. I would be willing to bet that somewhere inside the disgusting bowels of Fox News a reporter is instructing an intern thusly:

      “Hmm, she was a yoga instructor.. that’s funny in a kind of messed up way. You know those yoga instructors are usually liberal. She was probably against the travel ban and didn’t like Trump because she thought he was an Islamophobe. Meanwhile, she gets killed by a Muslim. Ironic. That’s a good story.

      Hey! Intern! Get online and find anything you can about this woman’s political leanings. Remember, we are trying to take the focus of this story away from police brutality and toward the Muslim threat. It would give the story some extra zest, some extra tragedy, if we could find out that this woman was liberal and didn’t think Muslims were really a problem.”

      • Celtic_Gnome

        You forgot the part where, if the intern’s a woman, he tells her she has nice tits.

        • Michael Smith

          Ugh right. Need to step up my wingnut impression when it comes o mysogeny

  • Daniel Hooper

    When I first saw this story, the officer hadn’t been identified in any way. Back then, I thought maybe this would finally be a wake up call in some way. Gun’s don’t care whether you’re white or black, so maybe some would reconsider their stance on gun control. She’s white, unarmed, and in her pajama’s. The cop that shot her was in the passenger seat, and I can’t imagine even his fellow officers would appreciate that he fired with his partner who very easily could’ve been hit himself in such a confined space.

    Then it came out that the officer was black. Oh well; guess we’ll have to wait for a white cop to shoot a white person. Hell; at this rate unless a white male cop shoots Trump or somebody else high up in the administration, we’re never going to have a thoughtful discussion on gun control, police training, or deescalating procedures when handling suspects.

  • Anna Rompage

    Unfortunately this will end up like every other unprovoked officer shooting, all the cop has to say is the 7 magic words, “I was in fear for my life”. He will then be acquitted, and the city will pay out a hefty, multi million dollar settlement to the family, and the cop will go back to copping…

    • canes_pugnaces

      Except in this case he’s a black cop, and Muslim to boot. So he’s going down. Which is what should happen, and not just to bad black cops.

      • Anna Rompage

        I seriously doubt it, not unless the guy has a long history of being disciplined for unprovoked violence, and even then…

        • canes_pugnaces

          He does have a bad history. But you may be right. Sigh.

    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      This will be a tough argument this time. He was in the cop car, and she was in her pajamas (and not blah).

  • Villago Delenda Est

    I’ve said this before, but there is something very wrong with the hiring process for LEOs in this country, and the training they receive. There need to be some national standards in this area.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      You would think that at some point insurance companies making some of these big settlement payments would get involved. ” We won’t insure you anymore until your cops get training that we approve and if they attend these cops are warriors best sex you’ve ever had afterwards your cape will fly in the wind” classes on their own, we’re not paying out either.
      Most small towns can’t afford to self insure- theyd end up having to disband their police force.

      • jowgajen

        I believe the settlements are publicly financed. Perhaps we should require police departments to buy insurance on offer to protect taxpayers from his liability. You may have actually found a good solution!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      And there needs to be a move towards more community-oriented policing. Some communities have forced officers out of patrol cars and back on foot or bicycle patrol so that they can get to know the people they are supposed to be protecting and serving.

    • jesterpunk
      • Miss Dill

        omg

        • Doug Langley

          ditto

        • jesterpunk

          Which one? The IQ article or the shootings?

          • Miss Dill

            Both!

      • Ill-Advised

        The IQ thing is a double tragedy. You need curiosity to think. You need imagination to wonder. You need courage to put the other person, not yourself and your fear first.

        None of these attributes has EVER been shown to be linked to IQ. Or used in screening for public safety.

        All of them are problematic for insecure authorities who can’t manage.

    • mailman27

      It’s all about the training.

    • shivaskeeper

      Training and enforcing the fucking standards. Those are the key. Better training would also help to weed out the ones who got past the initial screenings and shouldn’t have. Enforcing standards beyond some lip service has the be required. Supervisors who don;t enforce the standards need to be shit canned as fast if not faster than the subordinates who violate the standards.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      I’d be in favor of national standards but not at this time. I can imagine the standards as set by Little Jeffie Sessions and his band of idiots. Communities need to step up and do it right.

    • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

      Too many LEOs, not enough VIRGOs.

      • Ill-Advised

        Awesome. And perfect. (Tips hat.)

  • Michael Smith

    This is awful. But I have zero hope that this will make wingnuts reconsider their firm stance that Black Lives Matter is a treasonous terrorist organization, and that the police are almost always justified when they shoot a suspect. They won’t make any intellectual connection between this and police brutality and murder of black victims.

    Rather, they’ll use this story to scream “Where’s the outrage????” They’ll run headlines like “Liberal Media Rushes To Publicize Police Shooting, Suddenly Becomes Silent After Realizing Officer Black Muslim Immigrant, Victim White Woman.”

  • elviouslyqueer

    I got nothing, but more because anything I say will violate every single last one of the Wonkette Commenting Commandments at least twice.

    • Skwerl the Taco Hunter

      Listen to me. We love and respect you and your work. I am here to remind you that it isn’t worth it. Please slowly put down those canned clams. That’s all we ask.

      • SDGeoff3

        Not the canned clams!

        • Villago Delenda Est

          (Obligatory) YOU MONSTER!

          • SDGeoff3

            LOL! And I really need the LOLs today.

    • iceweasels

      You seem confused, since Wonkette does not allow comments.

  • OT personal update: current apt nearly empty. Almost ready to drive to the new place to unload

    • Lift with yer knees!

    • Spotts1701, Nothingburger Chef

      And then comes the unpacking of all the stuff you just packed. Whee!

    • Doug Langley

      And packing is the easy part. It takes much more time to take things out and figure where they go. Oh – that isn’t helping much, is it?

      • Villago Delenda Est

        “Where did I put that widget? Box #6, or box #11?”

    • Maggielle

      But Wonder Mom is doing the heavy duty cleaning, right? Yay mom.

    • iceweasels

      Finishing that crap up this week myself. It would be nice if it wasn’t 10,000 degrees.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      The worst part of moving is the in-between stage when nearly everything’s packed up except for the stuff you use everyday like kitchen and bathroom stuff. You still live there, but you really don’t.

  • Joe Beese
    • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

      Lumpy’s so cute when he’s pretending to know what the fuck he’s talking about!

    • The Wanderer

      I’m in favor of having Hannity hold his breath until he turns blue in the breasts until those things happen.

      • Crank Tango

        Probably ought to help him out with a nice bag over his head, maybe some sedatives, votes, whatever.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        I can live with that.

    • ariel_gee_398

      Where are we importing the pixie dust from? Or maybe a magic lamp? Because the 4% growth underpinning what passes for a plan from this slowly-liquefying empty-headed giant banana slug is a fairy tale.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Forget it, Ariel. It’s Faux Land.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Nice that a guy with employer-provided insurance can “live” with an ACA repeal. Many can’t.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      So unintentionally perfect the way he puts it, too: he can “live with” it. Yes you can, Sean. Because you already have health insurance.

  • La forza del resistino

    Tragic. Will Fox dig up her criminal rap sheets as a meditation/yoga instructor? Maybe an unkind Yelp post?

    • iceweasels

      I bet she smoked pot.

      • Crank Tango

        If she’ll smoke pot, there’s no telling what she might do.

      • La forza del resistino

        Well Beauregard Sessions did warn us it was a dangerous drug.

        • iceweasels

          Lord knows Beauregard Sessions understands the intricacies of marijuana prohibition. Probably as well as he understands racism.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “She kama sutraed five students to death in 2013”

      • Snark Tank Full of Resistance

        There are worse ways to go.

      • President in Exile Firefly

        Snu snu!

    • Three Finger Salute

      Actually, being a meditation and yoga instructor probably does count against her in the eyes of the average Mindfucks News viewer. They probably think she’s conducting some kind of pagan goddess-worship ritual and indoctrinating women into feminist lesbianism or children into liberalism or some other such “spirit cooking” nonsense. Kid you not, there’s actually been complaints registered by parents who find out their kids are learning yoga and mindfulness in gym class, and call for it to be ended because it violates their religious freedom. They don’t seem to get that there is a secular wellness form of it that’s got nothing to do with Eastern mysticism. But campus leftists don’t help either, when they call for the yoga center to be shut down because such a “secular wellness” form is alleged to be “cultural appropriation.” At least that’s confined to colleges and only a subset of shrill complainers. The parents calling for yoga instructors to be burned like witches sit on PTA boards and directly influence the education of their kids.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        That’s a lot to sort out from someone in her PJs on a dark street.

        • Three Finger Salute

          But they were “yoga PJs”, so… cult uniform. Pagan witch confirmed. Get forensics in here to check the basement for children and empty pizza boxes.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            And then there’s. Did the shooter reach across his partner to shoot her, or’d he zip off a round or two across the front of his partners chest?

      • Creepoman

        Will definitely mark her as a librul, so fair game in the eyes of most RWNJs.

      • Bad Tom

        Without cultural appropriation, there would be no rock -n- roll.
        Not sure how we would count, either, since our choices are Arabic and Roman numerals.

        And long division with Roman numerals really sucks.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    We REALLY need to cut this country in half – sane people on one side, and crazy assholes on the other.

    • Three Finger Salute

      We tried that. It didn’t work out so well. A better alternative is to move the sane people up north, then build a wall around Canada and make Trump pay for it.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        The mistake we made with the South was letting them vote after the war.

        Full disclosure: I’m a Southerner.

        • Maggielle

          Does anyone know of a good alternate history novel in which Lincoln wasn’t assassinated? Because we had a chance, back then, and I wonder if he could have helped us not fuck it up.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            The philosophical south never, ever quit fighting. And still hasn’t. The philosophical North thought that fight was over 150 years ago, and has been getting used ever since.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        It failed before because it was done stupidly for an evil purpose. I think it could be done not stupidly for s good purpose. Free the Trumpanzees from the burden of civilized western democratic norms.

  • Weird Fishes

    I think of all America needs about a week to tune out and turn on. The batshit is everywhere.

  • I say this with snark, but I’m also quite serious… If a pretty, middle-class white woman can’t safely call the cops without getting shot, literally nobody should ever call the cops.

    • iceweasels

      I know I certainly won’t, and I’m white as hell.

    • SnackitySnax

      I’m an over 40, blonde, yoga-doing woman like this shooting victim. I am (and always have been) EXTREMELY careful when pulled over — hands visible on the wheel, telegraphing what I’m going to do, all of that due care stuff that didn’t save Philando.

      WTF do the police expect people to do to not get shot?

      • Maggielle

        I know. Years ago I had an an online acquaintance who lived in Colorado, and her friend’s daughter was abducted and murdered by a man pretending to be a cop. He’d rigged up a fairly credible flashing light, had a uniform, fake badge, everything. The young woman was driving to her parents’ house at night, and when the cop lights came on, she did what most of us would do: she pulled to the side of the road and waited in her car, and he came and took her and killed her.

        A few days later, he took a friend to show off the body, and that friend called authorities and the killer was arrested, pleaded guilty, and is spending the rest of his life in prison.

        Afterwards, everyone was trying to figure out the best way to keep safe: put on your emergency flashers but keep driving till you get to a populated area; call 911 to verify that the guy is a real cop, and other tactics – all of which would now be likely to get you shot by a real police officer for resisting arrest and reaching for what might have been a gun. I have no answers. Stay home? Don’t go out after dark? Be afraid of everything?

      • Buzz1313

        And that’s the sad thing about all of this. The woman was calling the police because she suspected someone else was in trouble. This is why people don’t like to get involved. She was literally doing nothing wrong and she died for it. Let’s hope they don’t find out she once smoked pot twenty years ago had a run in with the cops in her native Australia 🇦🇺

        • YoBunnyBunny

          This was worse than getting killed by doing nothing wrong. This getting killed by trying to do the right thing. All kind of fucked up, it’n it???

  • Joe Beese
    • jesterpunk

      What a snowflake.

    • Nounverb911

      I have no problem with democrats flipping off trump.

    • The Wanderer

      Poor, whiny little butthurt boohoo.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      What Delta should have done with this foul harridan is covered by the Commenting Rules for Radicals.

      • The Wanderer

        I still think that Delta should get together with all of the other airlines, and all of them treat Coulter exactly the same way Delta treated her.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        Or. No fly list.which is within the no commenting rules.

        • BearDeLaOursistance

          I’d still let her have horseflies. On her redacted.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            And black flies

    • Celtic_Gnome

      How many high-level Republicans stood on stages where the speakers did everything but call Obama a ni-clang, and it was no big deal.

      Of course, Republicans can’t control what people around them say and do like Democrats, because Republicans are piss-poor at everything.

  • marxalot

    Never call the cops.

    • Nounverb911

      Local Mafia then?

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        Might be less dangerous

        • marxalot

          Posse comitatus, yo. I’d prefer the local Lavender Mafia.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Call the fire department. They can call the cops for you, and there’s a better than average chance the firemen (and women) won’t get shot.

      • Ill-Advised

        THERE’S the 21st century protection racket!

        They’d at least want a sit-down. Don’t shoot if there’s money that could be made.

  • ltmcdies

    just an observation from a “furriner” but just maybe cops wouldn’t be pulling their guns out just because “it’s dark” or whatever if ‘Murica wasn’t awash with fucking guns.

    oh and maybe some training…like…”check your target”…etc…

    • Crank Tango

      Yeah I’ve believed for a while that part of the concealed carry push is just to give cops an excuse to kill us all.

      • gene108

        Naw, the whole point of conceal carry and open carry is to allow white guys to strut around with guns…

        Black folks don’t get awarded the benefit of the doubt needed to not get shot on sight by cops, if they are carrying, so it’s a benefit for whites only.

        And walking around with a gun is an easy way to intimidate others.

        • Celtic_Gnome

          I thought it was a way to sell more guns.

          • BlissfulScribbler

            This is pretty much the long and short of it. There’s no level of public anarchy and fascist blowback that would soften the NRA’s hard-on for dollars. Also, all this shit’s become part of a ‘might makes right’ feedback loop. Pretty much every cop I’ve known is (a.) in favor of the most radical NRA propaganda and (b.) in favor of giving police more and more power to act as judge/jury/executioner and an occupying force. It’s basically a cult of violence and death.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      I wonder if being a “furriner” was involved in why she was shot; white, middle class, but spoke with an Australian accent.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        I am only guessing here. And I’m not excusing the cop at all- just looking at a possible scenario.
        Alleys usually aren’t lighted. If she approached the car from behind and the side, and it looked like she was holding something the cop might have panicked and shot her.
        Not her fault. How would she know? If that’s how it happened, then he shot blindly at someone he couldn’t even really see. Terrible decision, terrible training.

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          yeah, that’s a stretch…in fact, a lot o stretches…i’ve lived in over a dozen cities and burbs, all of them have had well-lit streets and alleyways…and none of those locations were anything but lower-mid-class neighborhoods…and if the alley wasnt lit (very unlikely), why wasnt the car running, with headlights, flashers, and spotlight?…..the more i think about this, the more i’m thinking it was no accident

          • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

            What little actual information I’ve been able to read about the account was that the police car was sitting there with its lights off. No idea why.
            I lived in two homes in decent suburban neighborhoods that actually had unlighted, and Unpaved alleys ( they were used for phone lines and trash trucks and were relics from the 1950’s- the city just never bothered getting rid of them) . What lighting there was had been provided by the homeowners.
            But I suspect we’ll never know the truth.

          • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

            probably not

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I’ve always kind of wondered what cops thought of the NRA’s push to have literally every man woman and child in America armed.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        The older veterans are truly frightened by this. But some of the younger guys see this as exciting, sort of like a prelude to the OK Corral-type events that caught their attentions when they were younger.

      • BlissfulScribbler

        Every cop I know has a big, dumb hard-on for the NRA and its escapist anarchy-one-minute/ultra-fascism-the-next bullshit. Everyone needs to carry guns AND police must be allowed to execute anybody who they feel like executing. Their disconnect with reality is as antithetical to a functional civilization as that of ISIS.

  • La forza del resistino

    And all the cop’s video was turned off. I wouldn’t trust these guys to set the timer on my TIVO machine let alone give them guns.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Why the living FUCK did the Minneapolis PD spend $6 million on cop cams and then have cops running around armed without having them turned on?

      There is so much fucking FAIL in this entire incident. Heads need to roll, and not just the shooter’s head.

      • h4rr4r

        Because they are your typical government products.

        They are far worse than commercial solutions, but made to look tough and sold at an outrageous premium. Plus the videos are usually only available from some website that has terms that harm the defense.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        The things should be turned on when you start your shift and stay on until your shift is done, including during your lunch break.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I’m going to be mildly indulgent to the officer, who likely forgot to turn on his camera after he realized that he just became a murderer. But the idea that anyone would remember, in 30 seconds, to turn on their camera after shooting someone is incredibly stupid: human brains don’t work like that. Those things should be rolling the moment they leave dispatch, and their being off should be an auto-firing offense.

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        If those cops believed they were in the right, they would’ve been scrambling to turn on that record button in a tenth of a second.

  • The Wanderer
    • 5 per year shot by police in Australia

      541 shot so far this year in America, so maybe over 1000 by years end?

      That’s fucked.

  • Lyly Sirivong

    Republicans : Blue Lives Matter. Except when the cop is a Muslim.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      And maybe black too

  • shastakoala

    Unfortunately the practice of not wanting to get involved will be popular again.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    I can’t wrap my brain around this. She calls, police responds, the activity is in a back alley, the officer shoots her from inside the car.

    Was she in the alley at that time?
    Where exactly was the police car?
    Why would you even draw your gun if you are inside a police car with a fellow officer?

    Just…just..WHAT?

    • RoniOh

      She was actually openly talking to the officers through the driver’s window of the police car which makes it even more mind boggling. wtf.

      • Ghenghis McCann

        Living in NotAmerica, I’m used to cops getting out of the car to speak to people.

        • starfanglednut

          I remember being in Canada, and being absolutely shocked when a police officer said “please” when he asked me to not sit where I was sitting.

          • shastakoala

            How dare him! Was he a Delta stockholder?

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            hehehe

          • Three Finger Salute

            Yeah, but those are Mounties (“Moontees”?). They’re cute, they’re polite, they ride rainbow unicorns, and they have hearing-impaired wolf-dogs named after prime ministers. Some of them even help untie helpless maidens from railroad tracks.

          • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

            Due South ftw

          • crisptickle

            except when they are killing mentally handicapped people in the street with their guns

        • Dudleydidwrong

          As it should be in any civil society. What does that make the US?

          • A gun totin flawed democracy ruled by a Russian puppet.

            Freaky.

          • Dudleydidwrong

            There is “good freaky” and “bad freaky.” This is real bad freaky.

            My dad was a cop for 34 years. I miss him but I’m glad he’s not alive to see what policing has too often become. I have great respect for those who “protect and serve.” I have no respect for those who can’t handle those two objectives.

        • Same. I haven’t been shot even once yet.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        So then most likely an unintentional discharge?That woudl explain why she was hit in the stomach.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          But wtf was the gun doing in his hand as he sat in the car?

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            that’s the following question.

          • marxalot

            Y’know… playin’ with it.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Both of them.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          A negligent discharge is a discharge of a firearm involving culpable carelessness. In judicial and military technical terms, a negligent discharge is a chargeable offence. A number of armed forces automatically consider any accidental discharge to be negligent discharge, under the assumption that a trained soldier has control of his firearm at all times. This is the case in the United States Army, Canadian Army, the Royal Air Force, the British Army and various Police Forces within the United Kingdom.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Yup plus you never have your finger on the trigger (muscle control it’s called right?) or aim at someone unless your are ready willing and able to shoot that person.

        • PubOption

          Three times?

          • Maggielle

            Holy crap. I did not know that. Do we know whether they started first aid, or did they leave her lying there like the officers did with Walter Scott?

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            They were trying to revive her when other officers responded. I can’t cite my source but I remember it was noted because that was the beginning of any recordings. And seeing how many times they let the black man lie there like roadkill I couldn’t help but wonder…

        • justifiable

          Really? Do you think it’s some king of normal procedure for a cop to just sit there with his gun drawn and pointed in his partner’s direction?

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            Well if you read my other comments you would not say that. I am confused what happened and try to find a logical solution what took place. What is your take?

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          way too fucking soon (sorry, robbertjan)

    • janecita

      I have the answer for you, our cops are poorly trained and trigger happy. They are usually the kids that peaked in high school, and didn’t go to college.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      I’m betting the officer’s partner forgot to remind the murdering officer that he didn’t have his camera on because s/he’d been rendered temporarily deaf and blind due to a gun being fired right next to their head.

    • h4rr4r

      The officer was playing with the gun in his lap.
      It really is that simple.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Also, at the risk of whatever I’m at the risk of, it seems unlikely that the lady in her jammies was the perpetrator of a public sexual assault.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        I was about to add that!

      • ariel_gee_398

        I can only assume the “it’s sexist to assume that she wasn’t the perpetrator” defense is forthcoming.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I’d mentioned it below, but the only explanation I can think of that makes any possible sense is that they weren’t expecting her to come out, the alley wasn’t lighted, she approached the car from an angle where they couldn’t see her holding the cell phone, and the officer, not trying to find out who or what she was panicked and just blindly shot her. Not her fault- she didn’t know any better. Horrible training and horrible decision on the officers part.

      • Apparently the cop leaned over and fired outside the drivers side window, past his partner.

        Would seem if that is the case that the woman wasn’t shot from an angle but directly in front of the drivers door.

        Also, don’t these stupid cops have directional spotlights and high beam and other sources of illumination for just such an occasion?

        I dunno, this whole thing sounds suss as hell to me, forgot to turn on both dash cam and body cam? I think not. I’d wager they turned both off before responding, dash cams come on automatically when the car starts.

        Fuckin tragedy in any case, to hell with going to America for holidays or work, too much uncertainty and fear.

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          I don’t know why they would roll into an alley with their lights off either. I think it’s human to look for an explanation that makes sense but maybe sometimes there isn’t one. Given all the times that cops explanation has been contradicted by video, I don’t know how we can believe what they say happened.

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          in fact, it makes so little sense, it almost sounds like a hit, doesnt it?

  • Edith Prickly

    All together now: they will do it to you next. That says it all.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Martin Niemoller, ’nuff said

      • Komsumverweigerer Ron

        That was my very first thought: First they came for…

        • Ill-Advised

          Good God. I never realized this meant they would come for the trump voters last.

          (Going to watch kitten videos to recover from this realization)

  • Alan

    The inevitable end to allowing everyone to walk around with a gun is police shooting people.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    A body camera is only as good as the cop it’s mounted on. When cops started carrying voice recorders, they immediately found ways to get around using them. When departments started installing dashboard cameras, cops started testing them to figure out exactly where they had to stand to be out of frame. I once dealt with a Field Training Officer (FTO — the guy who rides along with new cops when they first start patrolling) who had marks on his cruiser so trainees could practice staying out of the video.

    Police departments love promising voice recorders, dash cams, and body cams because it means they don’t have to confront the real issue: bad training.

    • shivaskeeper

      That’s not lack of training so much as an utter lack of standards and accountability. Those three things go hand in hand. Train to a standard with the goal of meeting or exceeding that standard, There also has to be some sort of accountability for failing to meet, or violating the standards later.

      The police can get the best training available, but if none of their superiors are willing to hold them to the standards it won;t matter at all. This is a problem that is not going to be fixed until the higher ups are held accountable for not enforcing a standard. Make the higher ups responsible for what their subordinates do, and shit will start to change.

      • BlissfulScribbler

        Yup, and add into this the rancid toxicity of ‘police culture’, i.e. god-knows-how-many cop message boards on the internet that convince these shitheads that they’re ‘tending the flock’, spread narratives about how everybody’s against them, encourage them to worship people like that Chris Kyle asshole, and in the worst cases, normalizing/celebrating any and all abuses towards civilians, shootings of dogs, etc…

  • TundraGrifter

    The war in Viet Nam was shown in American living rooms every evening on the TV network news. We put up with it as long as inner-city (ok, Black) draftees were fighting and dying over there. I remember the first time I heard about that War. From a Black man who had returned in the mid-1960’s. He was a college friend of my sister, invited to the house for a home-cooked dinner.

    Then the US began to draft white boys – kids who didn’t go to college and then young men who had. Pretty soon the war in View Nam wasn’t a good idea at all.

    • gcplanner

      Please check the accuracy of your statements. It sounds like you’re using an anecdotal account to make a generalization that isn’t supported. (12% of Viet Nam casualties were African American. 77% of all enlisted were volunteers, not drafted.)

      • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

        But it’s the 33% who were not drafted, regardless of color, that were the tipping point.

      • justifiable

        Anecdotal, my hind end. It’s more like 14% of enlisted/NCO, and even then it’s an averaged-out-at-the-end-of-war figure – which makes it easy to ignore the black casualty figures that were coming in in the early days of the war, which were well over 20%.

        King declared Vietnam to be “a white man’s war, a black man’s fight” because blacks represented a disproportionate percentage of early draftees – who were made up from the poor, undereducated, unemployed or urban blue-collar – and also faced a much higher chance of seeing combat. He was right, too. At the beginning, blacks comprised 11% of the US young male population and they made up over 12% of forces in Vietnam. Over 95% of that number were Army or Marine enlisted, and they made up over half the men in front line combat units – which is why in ’65 and ’66 their casualty rate soared to that staggering 20%+ of the whole.

        Johnson didn’t just decide to pull them from combat units for kicks – he got a lot of heat from King and other black leaders, and due to that criticism by ’69 the casualty rate was reduced to around 11-12%, which was more in line with the national population figures.

      • TundraGrifter

        Your data don’t dispute my comment. Just a question, please. How old were you in 1969?

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      I recall my mother shutting off the evening news because the images were so graphic. I also remember they showed the flag draped coffins every night.

  • SnackitySnax

    This is similar to Philando Castile in that WTF this person isn’t even any kind of threat to you.

    (And THAT cop should NOT have gotten off.)

    I’ve been appalled over the high number of people shot by police for a while, but Nekima Levy-Pounds is right — when people just say, “oh, the police must have been right, they’re the authorities” and they never get punished for these “mistakes” you’re going to see more and more of this and it’s not going to stop with “other” people but anybody the police want to shoot in a moment of insecurity or whatever.

    • Alan

      I don’t see the similarity. If I were a cop everyone with a gun would be a threat. Lucky I’m not a cop because I’m a big ol’ chicken.

      • SnackitySnax

        With a gun that they pull on you or other people, sure. I’m not questioning legit defensive shootings, but when people are getting shot without brandishing weapons, wow.

        • Alan

          No, everyone with a gun. It’s the inevitable consequence of allowing everyone with a pulse to walk around with a gun. I’m not vaguely surprised.

          • SnackitySnax

            You’re not wrong about that.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        “…everyone with a gun would be a threat.” In this l’homme arme country there are lots of threats because the leaders have decided that anyone can be armed. Police departments do hire people who are bullies and they hire people who are very prone to shoot before thinking. They hire “big chickens,” too. Those people are very easily frightened and frightening to the rest of us. It’s a recipe for a fucking disaster and that’s what we’ve got. It’s got to stop, and it should have stopped with/before Travon Martin.

    • marxalot

      The police aren’t “the authorities.” They don’t have some magical tap into What Is Right. They don’t even know the law very well, in many cases. What they are is the threat. They’re people with guns, given to them by people with power, and what they really have is the knowledge that no matter what they do, power will protect them from the consequences.

  • Carpe Vagenda

    I wonder how many Trump voters are starting to realize that this is their Twilight Zone episode and they’re Vic Morrow.

    • Bad Tom

      Not enough.

    • justifiable

      Since they’re not using anything above the neck anyway…

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Some cops join the police so they can legally kill people. Period.

    • Alan

      Now you’re being silly.

      • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

        Many cops join the police so they can legally bully people…and many times that bullying escalates to killing someone.

        • Alan

          No, people who have a propensity to bully might turn out to be bullies on the job. Stop making stuff up.

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            What? That was exactly my point.

          • Alan

            No, you said people join so that they can bully. That’s an entirely different issue.

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            You’re nitpicking whether an LEO already was a bully or had the propensity to bully? Either way, the point is that many LEO’s are bullies. And do you really believe that saying many already were bullies is “making stuff up”? Seriously?

          • Alan

            No, I said that your comment that people become police because they want to bully people was made up. I don’t know if you’re purposely obfuscating or you’re not reading.

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            I did not say “people”. I said, “many cops”. And saying that I made it up is the same as calling me a liar. If you have evidence that I am lying, show it. Otherwise, goodbye.

          • Alan

            Wow, you’re kidding? I can’t prove to you that lizard people don’t exist either. Usually there are smarter people commenting here.

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            You accused me of lying and have no evidence to justify it and now you resort to ad hominem attacks. Piss off. Don’t reply. I’ve blocked you.

          • Alan

            Again, seriously? That’s not what ad hominen means.

      • brittany

        So you’re completely dismissing even the possibility of it? Many police forces in the US have little to no screening process anymore. How are they supposed to weed out the ones who apply for that reason?

        • Alan

          Same way they screen for unicorns and leprechauns. And I don’t know where you got “little to no screening process”.

          • brittany

            I’m specifically referring to a psych screening test, which is where this type of behaviour would be flagged:

            “State statutes such as the one in Ohio, where Loehmann shot Rice, mandate that the standards and training commissions “may” require a psychological evaluation, but the Ohio Peace Officer Training Commission does not specify that a psychological evaluation is a minimum requirement for academy training. Instead, individual police departments in the state decide whether the screenings are a required part of the department’s hiring process. Commissioners in New Jersey have delayed implementing pre-academy standards for police applicants until June of this year.
            Psychological evaluations remain a common requirement throughout most large municipal police departments, such as the Cleveland Police Department, regardless of whether or not the state’s statute and/or standards and training commission explicitly mandate them. But even within large, urban police forces, such evaluations are inconsistently conducted, and the many tests and methods used by examiners, as well as the qualifications of the examiners themselves, vary widely. Many smaller police departments in states that do not mandate the evaluations opt out of this part of the hiring process entirely.”

            http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/29191-evaluating-police-psychology-who-passes-the-test

          • Alan

            So what? The original comment was that people become police officers so that they can kill people. If you think that’s true you might need the psych exam.

          • brittany

            So now you’re not only still completely dismissing the idea that, with all the people out there with violent tendencies, someone might actually sign up for a job that they believe will allow them to legally assault and kill other people, you’re now saying that people who think it is a possibility are nuts?

            Really???

            Have you actually met other people, or have you spent your entire life in a self-contained bubble?

          • Alan

            Yes, I said you’re nuts if you think that people purposely become police officers because they want to kill people. I suspect you grew up in the bubble.

    • AyeDiosDrinko

      Plus the welfare. Same for many that join the military.

    • LucindathePook

      “I wish I was an Alabama Trooper
      That is what I’d really like to be
      ‘Cause if I was an Alabama Trooper
      I could shoot the niggers legally”
      — song heard in my 1950s youth

  • marxalot

    3Finger had a bit dowthread which seems to have gone buh bye? about cops shooting people and decreased executive function. The article shows that a study on officer shootings revealed that if you’re not good at life, you shoot people, and that male officers were more likely to do it, and that Black male officers were even more likely. I can help illuminate the “also more likely to be black” bit. Decreased
    executive function is linked to childhood and ongoing lead exposure.
    Thanks to the elimination of leaded gasoline, disorders tied to low
    executive function went down across the board start in the late 80s.
    However, because poor (read: Black and Latino) neighborhoods, housing
    etc, tend to be in areas contaminated with lead and other heavy metals,
    and where old construction is left in place (lead paint! in schools!)
    rather than remediated, it seems to have hit a “floor” in these areas.
    So Black kids are still getting lead poisoning (though not as high
    levels), which still damages their brains, leading to Black adults with
    decreased executive function. Not saying that explains all of it, but
    it’s for sure a factor.

    • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

      Interesting theory, though my major takeaway was that if you hire shitty human material of any background or race and put them in positions of high stress and responsibility, they’ll fuck it up.

      • Three Finger Salute

        The militarization of police forces is definitely part of this. Not just the ridiculous weaponry (they have tanks FFS) but the officers themselves. A lot of cops are ex-military and did multiple tours of duty in our bullshit two-front endless Bush wars in the Middle East. In many cases they haven’t been properly treated for P.T.S.D., because the macho culture discourages mental health treatment as a sign of cowardice and weakness. (Toxic masculinity.) So the subject never even comes up, because the vets either self-medicate or find more “socially acceptable” ways of getting out their troubles, like when Chris Kyle took a traumatized soldier to a fucking shooting range and ended up getting taken out by same colleague.

        The same culture is true among LEOs. It’s like recruiting Michael Vick’s pitbulls for the drug-sniffing dog program and siccing them on a random pothead (who may or may not have had the drugs planted on him in the first place. These guys are literally brain-damaged from a war that never should have taken place, and they’re being sent out to patrol the streets as though America’s own domestic front was Baghdad. And if it isn’t, we’ll turn it into Baghdad. Literally bringing the war home. You add the fact that the minority soldiers-turned cops grew up in these American war zones themselves and you’ve got a really vicious cycle that likely will never end.

        The U.S. has been at war with itself and at war with black and brown people since its inception. I agree with the widower. If you can, pack up and move to Canada. Although even they’re on the verge of torches and pitchforks marching on Sussex Drive now, because alt-right hate media has ginned up the public to go after Justin for “making a terrorist [Omar Khadr] a multi-millionaire.” AKA cleaning up Harper’s mess that was also ours in the first place.

        • justifiable

          This. So this. But while it’s a major factor in the “them vs us” siege mentality that’s been cooking for well over a decade, some trigger-happy assholes have never seen military service, but get off on intimidation, gun lust and having the power to shoot anything/anyone with impunity. In theory, candidates like that used to be weeded out as unfit by psych testing/evaluation, so it makes you wonder either just what the fuck criteria they’re using these days, or what kind of fuckwit is greenlighting them.

          • spacecat in space

            They can’t get into the military, but they can get into the local police force.

          • justifiable

            And more often than not go into homes with no cause, shooting as they go – they kill dogs, occupants, whatever could possibly be considered a threat.

      • kareemachan

        Why not both?

  • janecita
    • Celtic_Gnome

      Well, for one thing, they’re furriners and therefore not exceptional.

  • OrG

    Protect and serve?

    • justifiable

      She was served. With two slugs in the gut.

  • OrG

    Start putting killer cops in prison and this shit will stop.

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      Hard to do when the fucking juries keep letting them off.

      • Buzz1313

        I have a feeling when this gets to trial, he will be found guilty.

        • YoBunnyBunny

          You are more optimistic than am I…

          • sarafina

            St. Paul let Philando Castile’s murderer off.

      • BlissfulScribbler

        Exactly. Even with the mountain of evidence in the Walter Scott shooting, there was still some piece-of-shit juror who ‘couldn’t in good conscience charge a police officer.’ I think it’s time to stick a fork in this country.

  • Ducksworthy

    Police recruits need to be subjected to extreme vetting to weed out the trigger happy and insane.

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      I was under the impression that they used extreme vetting to HIRE the trigger happy and insane.

    • kareemachan

      Remember, police departments are NOT looking for intelligent cops. Just the opposite…

  • witsended

    Typical liberals so elitist, rushing to the barricades when some human gets shot. Not one reference to dogs lives matter from any of you.

    MISSOURI CITY, Texas (KTRK) — It began as a noise complaint involving a party Friday night in a Missouri City subdivision. A few minutes later, a family dog was shot in the head.
    “A neighbor asked us to turn down the music, and we did,” said Lizz Pedragon.
    Thirty minutes later, she said Missouri City police arrived.
    “We had a barbeque, and there were seven kids and five adults in the backyard,” she said. There was also Chapo, their two year old pit bull that was part of the family since he was a few weeks old.
    “He was sweet, and always friendly to everybody,” she said.
    Most of all, her two daughters loved him.
    Security video shows two police units arriving. One officer is visible, while the other is out of view. Neither go to the front door, but walk out of frame to the back yard.
    “They opened the gate, and pretty much, as soon as they saw Chapo, they shot. That’s it,” Pedragon said.

    http://abc13.com/news/family-goes-to-city-council-after-dog-fatally-shot/2228205/

    Would say more but am busy protesting my governments introduction of non vegan bank notes.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Oh, how I miss toasting the old Bank of England fivers over a nice bonfire. They just don’t taste the same now, having changed to plastic with added animal fats.

      • MizzMazz

        Hehehe, my English ex gave me an Isle of Man banknote that was supposedly indestructible (Tyvek or something). He said when they were issued, people spent a lot of time trying to destroy them, ya know, “Challenge Accepted!”

    • Duke

      Were those vegan dogs showing their buttholes?

      • ryp

        And yodeling

    • miss_grundy

      I signed a petition for a family whose dog was killed in a similar incident. It is time that we got rid of the scaredypants that are populating police departments. If you are afraid of dealing with people and their dogs, you have no business being a police officer.

    • kareemachan

      So, unless you’re being stupidly snarky, why are you equating liberals with dog-haters?

  • “It’s not that I don’t like cops, it’s just that I feel better when they’re not around” – Charles Bukowski, all people of color and now, pretty blonde yoga teachers.

  • Monsieur_Grumpe

    This is why Sheriff Taylor never let Barney Fife have bullets.
    But seriously… WTF????

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      But seriously, this is EXACTLY why Andy wouldn’t let Barney have bullets. He couldn’t be trusted with a loaded gun. Your comment may be about a 1950’s sitcom but it’s a perfect analogy.

    • Mormos

      Barney had bullets. He just carried them in his shirt pocket and kept his pistol unloaded.

  • Neil

    The Sandra Bland case might have been a miscarriage of justice, but it wasn’t a “tragic police shooting”.

    • spacecat in space

      No, it was just a cop beating the ever-loving shit out of a woman, beating her head against the pavement until she couldn’t see, then throwing her into a jail where they forged documents and ignored her severe cop-inflicted injuries until she died.

  • Fusilier 0770

    Sometimes, I just wish we could disarm police on the UK model and go for one year like that. I can guarantee a large swath of police officers would quit and retire quick and the ones who remain will learn how to operate with their goddamn brains. Now I know it won’t happen and wouldn’t work anyway, because the U.S. is awash in guns and old west nostalgia of manly men blowing each other away is American as apple pie.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Maybe Mexico and Canada need to build walls and send America the bill.

  • PubOption

    She should have slept nude. The cops might then have noticed her in her night attire.

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    Honestly, how can we complain about incompetent policemen frightened by their own shadows when we have an incompetent predisent frightened by his own shadow?

    • Paperless Tiger

      Trump is making everything worse, that’s for sure.

      • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

        IK,R! I’ve started to lose my sense of humor and perspective.

  • miss_grundy

    Well, there is Faux New’s response: they will “report” that it was the blah cop’s fault….not that Minneapolis has a problem with officer training.

    • sarafina

      Minneapolis cops like to shoot family dogs, too.

      • spacecat in space

        Cops all over the country like shooting harmless family pets, be they dogs, cats, puppies, or kittens.

        Particularly if they can do it in front of kids.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

    I was angry when a cop stopped me Sunday for Walking in Booty Shorts. I guess I should count my fucking blessings, eh?

    • Christopher Story

      when I was going through my Goth phase, I got stopped all the time for wearing a trench coat. And more than one officer told me he was stopping me because of my trench coat. In a hundred years, they still haven’t figured out that the real monsters look just like them, not us.

      • Invidosa

        Yeah, my ex and I got that all the damn time too. He got searched more then once, I, being female, was undoubtedly less threatening

      • The Flaming Carrot

        On foot??

        • Christopher Story

          Yes

      • SadDemInTex

        I have a long black raincoat. I was stopped by police walking around my neighborhood

        • Christopher Story

          And yet, the scariest people they can rattle off the top of their heads, from terrorists to serial killers, none of them have ever been caught wearing such attire.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      What?!!! They do still have to comply with the 4th and 6th Amendments, you know. File a complaint. It won’t go anywhere (since you weren’t shot), but at least you’ll have the satisfaction of lashing out against this transphobic piece of shite.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

        I didn’t want it to escalate. My dad was a cop, and my family used the police against me all the time. Last year, when I told my sister in an eMail that I wouldn’t take their misgendering and disrespect anymore, she waited a few hours and then called the Sheriff’s and told them I threatened to kill myself.

        • kareemachan

          I’m sorry your family is so crappy.

        • Lily412

          Upvote for having to put up with that.

        • SadDemInTex

          I’m sorry. Live your own authentic life and fuck them with votes.

        • The Flaming Carrot

          My God. Your family is from Hell. I hope you are far away from them.

          • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

            The ‘rents are dead, and I didn’t tell the rest when I moved.

  • Christopher Story
  • Saxo the Grammarian

    The site of the murder shooting is a posh, upper middle class neighborhood, not far from Edina, the poshest suburb in the Upper Midwest. Very low crime, almost no violent crime. Nothing about this makes sense.

    • sw19covfefe

      Clearly the Australian, raged out on vegemite, looked like a Demon or the Hulk or something and tried to wrestle the cop’s gun – or advised the officer in a scary “white” voice that they had a gun permit.

      That’s the usual kind of reason given, isn’t it?

      • natoslug

        If you’ve seen any of the Wolf Creek or Mad Max movies, you’d know that there’s nothing more lethal than an Aussie, armed or not.

        Okay, snark over, this shit sucks. You don’t get to call America exceptional when homicidal cops continue to roam the streets and a gun lobbying firm gets to dictate state and national policies. America is an object lesson, not a shining fucking city on a hill, or whatever that senile old jelly-bean-sucking asshole called it.

  • The Flaming Carrot

    Rekia Boyd was in Chicago. And the atomic-level fuckweasel at Second City Cop called me all kinds of nasty names when I said Dante Servin was indefensible.

    • Pisto75666

      I took a look over there and strangely enough, no posts about this case. Weird!

      • The Flaming Carrot

        Well, but they are talking about how “violent criminal attacks are the best predictor of whom police might shoot in America.” Because I’m sure this yoga instructor had it coming.

        • Pisto75666

          Obviously. I mean the yoga pants ALONE.

      • The Flaming Carrot

        The blog and the comments serve as ongoing evidence that the CPD thinks the problem is black people and that everyone who doesn’t agree with them is “fucked up in the head,” and that the purveyors and fanboys of the blog are massively unfit for duty.

        • Pisto75666

          You forgot 4. That our entire country somehow ismade up of one city: Chicago. I mean crime DOES happen in other cities. I get why they say it (stats ) but even so. It’s SO tired.

          • The Flaming Carrot

            Yes, you are absolutely right. The toxic cops who write and comment on that blog so profoundly hate the City of Chicago and everyone in it, that they want us to be the collective scapegoats of all of society’s ills.

          • Pisto75666

            The fact that our intelligent, handsome, classy, cool, kind and generally amazing former President hails from that city, is not entirely coincidental IMHO.

          • The Flaming Carrot

            But the really cool part of him was forged in Hawai’i.

          • Pisto75666

            Oh that’s right, I forgot.

  • Australia is one of the more “WTF, America” countries when it comes to our gun violence, because when they had a massacre in which a lot of the victims were children (Port Arthur), they responded by taking a hard look at their gun laws, deciding they were inadequate, and making changes. They thought for sure we’d do the same when Sandy Hook happened, and when our reaction was to shrug at murdered children and pass laws that relaxed gun control, they were completely aghast. So I’m guessing they are not going to have a lot of subtle, nuanced reaction to one of their citizens being shot and killed by one of our trigger-happy Nervous Nellie cops.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      Same thing happened in the UK after Dunblane. I can’t imagine why this family wanted to move to the U.S.

    • Well said bindi, speaking as an Aussie, one or both of those cops better lose their jobs and do some time.

      Something really stinks about this all cameras off thing.

      • Hizzoner

        The camera off phenomenon needs to be an instant firing offense under any circumstances.

        • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

          sheeiiiit…i think using their weapon on another human should be the firing offense, immediately and no excuses….you use your weapon on another human, justified or not, and that’s the end of your LE career…period….that will stop this bullshit in a day

        • sarafina

          I think without pictures, the officer has no credibility and his side loses.

      • kareemachan

        The fact that they make it a “Well, if you think it should be on…” situation says everything.

    • SadDemInTex

      A bunch of their politicians were willing to not be re-elected by voting for serious gun control. Every time I think of Sandy Hook I hate the fuckers in Congress

      • Mark Bloom

        To be fair, as an Australian, I can tell you that Australia never had a similar gun culture to the US (the whole ‘pry my gun out my dead cold fingers’ was never a thing here) so the % of people who got really upset was a lot smaller than in the US. Also even a lot of gun owners supported the buy back. My dad is pretty conservative and owned several guns at the time and quite happily handed them all over and got the payout.

    • Mark Bloom

      Per capita Australian police over the last 20 years have shot as many people as US police have shot in the last year.

  • FauxAntocles

    Murder, Inc.

  • azeyote

    who the fuck believes that all the cameras weren’t on when he murdered that woman?

    • sarafina

      I do. Can’t delete footage that doesn’t exist.

  • Iam Reading

    I lived most of my life knowing that cops are dangerous and to be avoided at all costs. Important survival tip…..stay away from one-time

    • Buzz1313

      My brother and I discussed this many times. He’s a firefighter and has been in the station house (unseen) when white cops have come in to talk to white firefighters. They refer to black people as ni- you can guess the rest. That being the case, I treat them like they’re unstable and could kill me at any second. I’m super cautious and always polite.

      • spacecat in space

        Being super-cautious and polite doesn’t seem to help, either. I.e., Castile.

        I have this impotent mix of rage and grief roiling in my veins.

  • andyshelt

    Why it’s almost as though many US police officers are fucking out of control psychopathic bastards.

    They must be graduates of the Bad Lieutenant Police Academy.

    https://youtu.be/Ir8Y4iFrWk8?t=45s

    • Old town Urbandale

      The stars fell away from my eyes when I started dating the woman who would eventually become my ex-wife. She was regularly beaten as a teen by her stepfather, the chief of police of a county seat town. When she ran away, she was placed in foster care– in the home of the chief of police of the next town down the road. The foster parents were among those who thought foster care was a money-making opportunity, by banking the food allowance and feeding the kids poached game and stuff from the garden. Yep, regular pillars of the community…

      • HooverVilles

        Hmmm, I recall someone else involved in making money off foster care.

        It seems that most or all of Roy Lavoy Finicum’s (think federal bird refuge armed occupation) personal income came from foster care children.

        http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/get-the-government-s-hands-off-my-foster-kid-subsidies

        • spacecat in space

          That was a sticking point for the guys on The Dollop podcast when Dave Anthony described the occupation of the reserve. It was hilarious and horrible, like most Dollops.

    • sweet freedom

      Well, in his defense, the Mets did puke that game up.

  • Nockular cavity

    America sucks.

    Oh, look! I believe Fox News has found the enemy in this story.

    • Pisto75666

      They just had to try a little harder, bless ’em.

  • nightmoth

    I told ya’ll the right-wing might have a nervous breakdown over this and I hope it’s started. I want every single asshole with a “Back the Blue” sign in their yard to be reduced to a silent staring moron over this instead of the yammering truculent idiots they have been. We have a police problem in this country!!!!!

    • Fusilier 0770

      Nah, Blue Lives will still matter for these cretins. They will pin this on the fact he is of Somali origin which will mean that they will conveniently move this fact ahead of being a cop for being why he committed a murder.

      • The Flaming Carrot

        I’m checking facebook to see if I’ve gotten anything today from my in-laws about “backing the blue.” Nope!

        • BlissfulScribbler

          Most cop-loving conservatives leave these kinds of stories alone. Plenty have already started in with the whole ‘stop overreacting you fuckin’ librulz, we need to wait for all the facts!’ schtick.

  • nightmoth

    Remember that right-wing bumper sticker from the sixties: The Next Time You’re in Trouble, Don’t Call the Police, Call a Hippie”? THAT’S GOOD ADVICE!

  • OddMan

    Combo.
    Of the 543 people killed by police in the US so far this year:
    White 233
    Black 121
    Hispanic 88
    Other 19
    Unknown 82

    Seems like this one fact gets lost, more white folk get killed by cops than black and hispanic people combined.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/

    Jeff Sessions wants to increase civil forfeiture of property from possible drug crimes. Last year cops seized more property than burglars stole. Lots of agencies makes millions to finance their police and sheriff departments from drug forfeitures.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3de2a32279eb38617acba731921e60889290ad2c050bc5d17d59d0eb8ab2ec7d.png
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/?

    • themidniteskulker

      The police chief in Columbia, MO, said, on the video record, that his department only does that when there’s something, some new gadget or tool, that they want.He called it a “new toy” that they’re trying to pile up money to get.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      What are the numbers for unarmed victims?

    • Old town Urbandale

      According to the Census Bureau https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/

      White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2016, (V2016) 61.3%
      Black or African American alone, percent, July 1, 2016, (V2016)(a) 13.3%
      Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2016, (V2016)(b) 17.8%

      Could explain why twice as many whites have been shot by police than blacks and hispanics combined– there *are* twice as many of them. (Maybe the WaPo touched on this, I didn’t follow the links.)

      • OddMan

        Yes of course there are more white folks so they get shot a lot. But the general narrative has been it’s blacks who are getting shot, my point was that lots of white folks are being killed too. And people don’t seem to realize that.

        The problem is not how many black or white or others are being shot, it is that 543 people this year have been killed by our own police.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          i agree with your conclusion whole heartedly, but, like incarceration and convictions, the problem is a higher percentage of people are color are shot. In other words, in various cities, you are more likely to be shot by police if interacting with them and you’re a certain skin tone.

  • Marla

    Once of the first brutal assaults I ever saw by the police was when two of them beat the living shit out of a schizophrenic girl in her late teens while four others looked on and cheered. They slammed her head so hard against the pavement three of her teeth were eventually knocked out.

  • SullivanSt

    Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the Warrior Cop, shoot-on-sight mentality that gets trained into our police, could it?

    I’m pretty sure at this point I’d rather be on the wrong side of the battle lines in a Mosul gunfight having a Marine deciding whether I should be shot or let live than a cop responding to a report that mentioned the possibility of a weapon or blackness at the scene.

    Our cops are quicker to pull the trigger than our troops. How is this not an outrage to the right?

    • Marla

      When I was in the Marines you are trained to eradicate your enemy at any cost. Difference between a Marine and a cop is in the Marines you must first identify who and what your enemy is and what threat they pose. Seems the police forgo this training.

      No question these cops who murdered this woman will go scot-free so other officers can follow suit. Trump’s America, everybody.

      • sarafina

        But she’s white and spoke English.

        • spacecat in space

          With an accent!

      • Wookie Monster

        It seems clear that any conduct by police is justified so long as they can claim that they were scared.

    • sarafina

      Cops are former troops.

      • Marla

        Most of them are police academy community college educated with a 2.0 GP.A. average

      • SullivanSt

        Seems like a fairly standard Venn diagram. Some are, many are not.

        Timothy Loehmann wasn’t
        Jeromino Yanez wasn’t far as I can tell
        Darren Wilson wasn’t as far as I can tell
        Michael Slager was Coast Guard, hardly combat-oriented.

        That’s all I can be bothered to look up right now.

    • Zyxomma

      Looks like you read Radley Balko’s book. IMHO, best thing he ever wrote.

      • SullivanSt

        Actually I didn’t, but have read a few articles about the subject, most recently the stuff linked out from Our Wonket’s coverage of the Castile videos released after his murderer got off scot free.

  • terryk

    The headline on the Damond story from the Muslim-haters at WorldNetDaily reads “Cop named Mohamed shoots, kills unarmed woman who called 9-1-1.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/cop-named-mohamed-shoots-kills-unarmed-woman-who-called-9-1-1/

    I’m pretty sure WND never ran a story headlined “Cop named Bob shoots, kills unarmed black man.”

    • Lily412

      Well, they had to put some kind of racist spin on it. This doesn’t fit their narrative that victims of excessive force are all criminals who deserved it.

      • YoBunnyBunny

        Do they EVER make themselves dizzy with all the racist spinning??? It’s a pity being so racist and stupid doesn’t give them headaches like crossing their eyes for too long does.

    • javadavis
    • The Flaming Carrot

      World Net Daily. That was Theodore Beale’s dad’s publication before he was incarcerated and before the Beav started writing crap Fantasy Fiction.

  • kareemachan

    Because I’m masochistic sometimes, I went to Breitfart and found how HORRIBLE all Somalis are.

    Sigh.

    Obviously, somebody fucked up majorly. It could have been because the cop was a Somali and is genetically unable to to not shoot a white woman, or it MAYBE could have been because he was not trained very well and the mindset of the cops there is that if you don’t have any patience with people calling the police because of a disturbance, just shoot them. OR it could have been because there was a malfunction of his gun when he had it out, and both cops decided, “Cop cameras? Fuck no!” Or a combination of the above.

    You decide.

  • motocat

    If I get the story right, Noor would have had to shoot directly across and in front of his partner to shoot Ms. Damond. If I were the partner I’d be mighty pissed off. He could easily have been shot himself.

    • lawrence090469

      Instead he just gets treated to a gun discharge right in front of his face.

  • Angela Ruzzo

    At 10:30 pm last night I noticed flashing lights outside, so I went to the window to look. There is a community lake across the street from me, and on the other side was some kind of police car or ambulance with flashing lights, I couldn’t tell which (we don’t have street lights). It was right next door to a friend’s house, and the friend had a heart attack 3 years ago, so I got worried and called his house. He was fine, he said he went outside to ask what was going on and a City Cop told him they were “looking for suspects” and then told him to go inside and lock his doors and windows. The Cop Car stayed there for 90 minutes with lights flashing. 15 minutes later another neighbor 2 blocks away from the lake called me and said “There’s a Cop Car parked right in front of my house with their lights flashing.” So there were TWO Cop Cars with flashing lights. There might have been more, I don’t know because I had no desire to go outside and find out in case I got shot.

    Now don’t you think if you were the police and you were “looking for suspects” that you would turn off your flashing lights? How dumb are these people? No need to reply, I know the answer.

  • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

    so…has either the UN or amnesty international issued a travel warning on ‘murrika yet?…cause if i didnt live here, i sure as fuck wouldnt visit here

    • Hardly Ideal

      I figured there already was an implicit warning.

      “Going to America? Take a helmet and a bulletproof vest. It’s easier to get a gun over there than medical treatment.”

      • mfp, all 6s&7s&9s

        shining fucking city on a hill, my ass….fuck this place, it’s unlivable…we’re a 3rd world banana tinhorn dicktater republic….disgraceful

        • Hazel Blumberg

          Yes, that is what we have become. I am a 64-year-old US citizen, and I have never been so ashamed of this country in my life.

    • Hazel Blumberg

      Amen to that! Couldn’t agree with you more. My friends in foreign countries, who’ve been to the US frequently in the past, refuse to come here under the tr$mp regime. Yes, they oppose tr$mp, but they’re also frightened of what might happen to them here. It is beyond sad. Perhaps if the US loses mighty amounts of foreign tourist dollars, the current regime might pay attention. But I doubt it.

  • Zen Diesel

    Where my Blue Live Matter Fanboys at? It’s a horrible story regardless of race, I hope the cops involved get convicted for this senseless homicide.

    • HooverVilles

      Exactly: Where are my Blue Live Matter Fanboys at?

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        Prior Lake!!

  • Carpe Vagenda

    Because that piece of felon-funded human trash Pamela Geller. Because of course.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/84afd483f407716d667fe0d54b2cfe0d52941ed9695c910a2aff90477ae9469b.png

    • The Flaming Carrot

      It’s a shite story for sure. But it has fuck all to do with him being Somali. Half those cops in Baltimore were POC. It’s the militarization of the police, stupid. (Geller, not you). I suppose Geller wouldn’t have cared about the victim had she been ginger.

      • HooverVilles

        I’ sure the both sides are equally bad people would have the same reaction it the officer had been white and the victim Somali. Yep, very sure indeed. Oh wait.
        Sigh!

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Geller is one of the most profoundly fucked up human beings on planet earth. She’s a fervent zionist and a huge fan of european nationalist movements – including the nazi ones – because they hate muslims these days, and she thinks muslim genocide is the endgame.

        • Hazel Blumberg

          I have never heard of Geller before, so this is a learning experience for me. Another nutcase with a Twitter account. Shit.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            Oh, a little more than that. Her ex bought her a newspaper to play with this one time. She owner the NY Observer before Jared did.

          • Penny Dreadful Says Cats

            Perfect. I love it when the snake eats its tail.

    • Marla

      Wonder if this “Somali-Muslim” had killed another Somali Muslim what would Geller’s bullshit be?

    • Wookie Monster

      Blonde Lives Matter!

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Really, what?

    • Wookie Monster

      In all seriousness, Geller is framing this exactly the way you’d expect a wingnut to. The cop is wrong because he’s a black Muslim immigrant (the trifecta of things wingnuts hate!) while the yoga instructor is blonde (read: white) and therefore an innocent victim. If the ethnicity of the two were reversed, Geller would have been one of the loudest voices calling the shooting justified. The actual facts don’t really matter.

      And they say the left is obsessed with identify politics.

      Or, as Spicey explained it at the 3:00 mark here:

      http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sean-spicer-press-conference-cold-open/3468882

      • The Flaming Carrot

        What I get from the text is that Geller views “blonde” as something extra that makes her “white-plus,” i.e. more deserving of sympathy. It sounds disturbingly close to what I hear from the neo-Nazis that I have had the misfortune to run into online (usually on sites discussing genetics, where they are grossly out-classed by people who actually want to learn things, rather than confirm their own biases).

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Speaking as a person of paleness, I’d say it indicates that my ancestors spent the ice age in places where there wasn’t a lot of food. Which, JMO, was not really the wisest decision at the time.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        It’s contemptible, even for pammycakes. Seriously, your distinctions are muslim and blonde?

    • Hazel Blumberg

      And I guess it would’ve all been fine if the police officer were white?

      • Carpe Vagenda

        As long as he wasn’t muslim. Geller really hates muslims.

  • whitroth

    The coroner’s report calls it a homicide.

    And what the fuck was the cop who was *driving* the vehicle doing when the other cop reached over and shot her?

    • SeeTrain65

      Getting a sideways view of his partner’s gun discharging in his face.

      It wouldn’t surprise me if the guy was too shocked to move, and so, the worst possible scenario played out in a matter of seconds right before his eyes.

  • javadavis

    Another person this victim did not look like was John T Williams, Seattle, circa 2010

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/daca82e2f9f25cd05773dc34fac7e265fdfcf57aec8f0ee4f1855b7c7b814569.jpg

  • Blerg

    A gun crime committed against a white pretty xtian lady? This cannot stand!!

    • Hazel Blumberg

      A gun crime committed against anyone, no matter what color, shape, size, or religion, cannot stand.

      • Blerg

        I wish that were true, but not in this country

  • javadavis

    Drug test both cops, full drug panel – make sure to include steroids in the testing.
    The NFL player screen should suffice. Police should be held to the same standards as sports ball players, shouldn’t they? The only lives NFL players hold in their hands when they are on the job are other players, maybe the refs – contrast to cops.

    • Hazel Blumberg

      Do they do psychological tests on people who want to become cops? If they don’t, they should.

      • javadavis

        I don’t think they do, but it could depend on the locality. For example, it sort of looked like the Ferguson, MO, psych eval amounted to asking current cops “Have you seen this applicant at your KKK meetings?” If the answer is yes, they’re in. If no, on to the next question. But that could be just the optics.

  • Bitter Scribe

    Did Giuliani really say “9,900 out of 1,000 times”?

    • Giuliani was mayor during the brutal rape of Abner Louima by an NYC cop. If you want to see disgusting see the way that bigot handled that case.

  • Mike

    When will the riots begin?

    • Hazel Blumberg

      If I were still living in the Twin Cities, I’d want to be out on the streets, marching and screaming and waving posters. What the hell is WRONG with this country? I am sick of watching it disintegrate.

      • ahughes798

        Sick of WINNING yet?

  • Jan Hutchinson

    And I also vote to stop using the word ‘transparent’ when referring to being honest.

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    First things first, let’s not let the right-wing media use our own concerns about racial equality to divide us. This sort of police violence IS inflicted disproportionately often on black people, and as FDF points out, the narrative IS always skewed against the victim when s/he is a POC. AND the violence is still wrong when it happens to anyone, of any color. As Nekima Levy-Pounds reminds us, everyone should be in this fight together.

    • Hazel Blumberg

      Yes. There probably are good cops out there. Sometimes we even hear about them. But the bad ones? They need to get gone. Now.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    9,900 times out of 1,000?

    Jesus fucking Christ, Rudy, we adopted Base 10 so mouthbreathers like you could figure these things out on your hands.

    • Pisto75666

      When the situation doesn’t need a 9-11 mention, he’s all thumbs.

      • HooverVilles

        Even then it doesn’t matter. Any excuse to seem relevant.

        • Hazel Blumberg

          Rudy doesn’t much care what he says as long as he gets attention. He’s disgusting.

      • spacecat in space

        Considering how badly he fucked that up at the time, he should maybe never talk about 9/11, either, methinks.

        • Pisto75666

          Well I don’t think another Presidential run is in his future so, I think we’re safe.

          • spacecat in space

            But they keep letting him talk in public and broadcasting what he says, increasing my blood pressure. I would like them to stop doing that, plzkthx.

          • Pisto75666

            They can’t even get the predsident to stop doing that so, baby steps.

          • spacecat in space

            *angrycries*

          • Pisto75666

            This is no help probably but *comforting hugs*

    • Carole

      Politicians don’t do math good.

    • unionthuggery

      Sumerian base 60 libel!

  • Harbinger08

    They were both seated in the cruiser, he shot across his partner and through the door to hit her, while she was wearing pajamas and leaning in to the window explaining why she called them about a suspected assault she heard behind her house? I don’t know, but I’m not so sure he meant to shoot. That sounds a lot like mishandling the gun and discharging it.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      And both cops were so poorly-trained that, in that crucial 30 seconds after the shooting, they were so shocked and dismayed that they couldn’t press a fucking button.

      It’s a good thing that cop’s name is Mohammed, or else we might have to have a discussion about our police force going from To Serve and Protect to Us Against Them.

      • Harbinger08

        It’s a complete failure of something no matter how you slice it.

  • Moar Wordz

    Horrible , disgusting tragedy. Why are these ” Officers ” allowed to carry weapons at all ? Another cop falling from the stupid tree.

  • Jeff Mc Donald

    Even though she was a “white” person, the shooting could still have been justified. I mean, was she poor? I mean, she was outside in her pj’s. Were they expensive looking enough, or were they like those ones that folks wear to Walmart? Perhaps she only looked poor. That would make it justifiable…in 2017 America…apparently.

    • Notreelyhelping

      And what about her sheet thread count?

  • sarafina

    Jeebus. If men aren’t killing women by closing Planned Parenthood, they are doing it directly by gun.

    • Hazel Blumberg

      Sarafina, your comment is so apt. And so very sad. This country has simply gone to hell. I keep thinking it can’t sink any lower, but it continues to do so. Evidently there is no bottom to the horror that is the current US.

  • Police are civil servants. That is what they are. Not warriors, not the thing blue line, not any of that bullshit. Maybe, just maybe, this country could consider getting back to protect and serve instead of free hand so long as I feel safe.
    Because none of us are safe with a city by city military on the streets looking at everyone else as a potential enemy.

    • Rickyphoo

      I agree and I also see this kind of thing happening more and more as more state legislatures makes it easier for untrained and unvetted gun nuts to run around with concealed and unconcealed weapons.

      I mean, once upon a time, when the cops saw someone carrying a gun in public they could be pretty sure were up to no good. Now ,with everyone carrying, how are they going to know whose dangerous ones and whose just an idiot?

      Not to defend the police or say that this had anything to do with this incident but over all, I suspect, and fear, there will be more shoot first and ask questions later.

      • spacecat in space

        The folks they’re murdering are unarmed or are following the law to the very letter. The white dudes waving firearms at all and sundry (including cops) like they’ll somehow enlarge their micropenises that way are always treated with the finest and most delicate of kid gloves.

        The gotta-murder-citizens-for-our-safety argument is made of shit.

    • Regret

      Normally I hate cops since they’ve bothered me a lot more than anybody else ever has (Well, except for bullies in highschool, but I blame school more than the bullies).

      Sometimes I like to switch my perspective on cops though:
      Let’s say that cops are heroes.

      This must lead to:
      Heroes don’t need guns to safe lives.
      Heroes are willing to give their own life to save that of others.
      Heroes care more for saving innocents than for killing bad guys.

      So if there is even the tiniest chance that someone in their sights is not about to murder an innocent, they should not shoot. This is not open for discussion, the moment they shoot they stop being heroes and thus stop being cops.

  • Husband Of Mrs God

    Police brutality? Or cowardice? Does that explain any of it?
    Fear has been a defense in the trials lately. Let’s see them try it this time.

    • arbcar

      I’d bet one or both of them were high on something, or drunk.

  • Zyxomma

    I first saw this on FB, because the now-dead woman was a real star in the holistic health community. Thanks, $5F.

  • Thomas Rowley

    Funny how Fox News never allows commentary on stories that don’t work well for them. No different for this story; commenting isn’t allowed. Can you imagine that conversation?

  • Jo Mathie

    No-one was shot by the Metropolitan police last year, We are at four so far. In the UK we find America’s police force so baffling. I can understand (and find horrific) the shooting of Black men and women because of ingrained racism. Here? So many questions – what did they think she was going to do? She was the one who called the crime in. I feel so sorry for her family.

    • Carole

      But they weren’t truly scared in most of the other cases, either, just excessively twitchy. This incident puts paid to their assertions that their militancy is a result of violent crime as opposed to, well, militarization. Of course, the right wing nut jobs are spinning it as a violent Muslim-Somali police officer. It would take a white cop shooting a blonde woman for them to acknowledge the truth. Perhaps not even then.

    • Hazel Blumberg

      I am so mortified, disgusted, miserable to be a citizen of this violence-crazed country. It is no wonder that you in the UK find our police force baffling. Many of us do, too.

  • OTB

    You don’t understand the hierarchy:

    White male billionaires >
    White male millionaires >
    White male GOP politicians >
    White male cops >
    White male Christians >

    All others

    • Bill Diaz

      Nancy Grace built an entire career on ‘Blonde white girls’, so there is some value attached.

      Have a great day!

  • BFD

    Yoga instructor. Isn’t it obvious? Subversive, commie, foreign, no doubt liberal, probably meditating yoga person. How did she expect to be treated by the police in this country?
    That said, I am very sorry for her family’s and fiance’s loss. FUCKING GUNS!

  • The Flaming Carrot

    Slightly OT, but the racist-facist police blog Second City Cop posted the following yesterday:

    “The cops on scene were cleaning up after a fatal motorcycle crash that had to attract this guy’s attention, and his first thought is that the cops are torturing someone – in this day and age, in this atmosphere, with cameras and video everywhere. An allegation (torture) that has never been proven at any point in time in a court of law.”

    I want some of whatever this ass-crack is smoking. Evidently, in his alternative universe, the John Burge 2010 obstruction conviction never happened.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      Oh and now the Anonymous-fucking-cowards at Second City Cop are slithering out of their squad cars and into the comment section to bitch about Mohamed Noor and diversity quotas.

    • Bill Diaz

      Abner Louima? (from back when CNN didnt suck):
      http://www.cnn.com/US/9708/14/police.torture/

      For the cases where police HAVE been convicted in court, they have been civil and the cowardly scumbag cops get the cases sealed, so the information of their crimes cant be divulged.

      By any measure, Mr Louima was tortured and cops went to prison for it. If you have occasion to meet them again, ask them about Abner Louima.

      Have a great day!

  • Hazel Blumberg

    A woman calls the police because she thinks that there’s a sexual assault going on in the alley behind her house. The police arrive. They shoot the woman. How does that even begin to make sense? And of course, their body cameras weren’t turned on. Ooops. Why did this happen? What did this woman in her pajamas do to scare those big cops so much? And now that cops are aware that we know they love to kill African Americans, is it time for them to start slaughtering white people, too? Nice going, guys.

    • ahughes798

      Why are the body cameras and dashboard cameras EVER allowed to be turned off. There shouldn’t even be an option to turn them off. What’s the point if they can just turn them off whenever they want?

  • Elizabeth Black

    Until cops, teachers, and others who serve our society get paid enough to attract the smartest people in our society into those careers, America will continue to decline.

    • ksimms

      Think about which of your classmates from high school became cops. It my high school it was bullies. Castile was killed by a Latino. Diamond was killed by a black. While race is a huge factor, the unquestioned authority of our police, and the abuse of power that comes with it, can’t be ignored.

      • Elizabeth Black

        I went to a private school. No one would have even thought of becoming a cop.

  • AngryNotSoOldHippy .

    Welcome to Shit House United States, where Christian fucking Republican assholes are handed guns so that they can murder us with zero consequences. Fucking pigs. Every fascist pig is a fascist, murdering, anti-American pig, there are no “good cops.”

    • Notreelyhelping

      There are no good cops: they’re only people who carry a badge and gun, and they all carry the prejudices and bear the weaknesses that we all do. There’s plenty of rot out there; much of it comes from the top or is systemic. Calling them fascists and pigs may feel good to ease legitimate anger, but it doesn’t do a thing as far as seeing them as human. Deeming ones opponents as inhuman is what the Milosivics do to start wars.

      We can be better than that.

      Also: [dick joke]

      • ahughes798

        Sometimes it’s really hard to see them as human.

      • Bill Diaz

        Fuck seeing police as human, for every ARMED citizen who kills a police officer there are 20 unarmed who are gunned down, most of them black or hispanic.

        Rodney King was our introduction to police brutality on film, now we can see murders, evidence being planted and drug busts being used to rape innocent people daily.

        For a black person to have their extrajudicial murder questioned at all, there has to be a film of the event. For a pretty white woman, no effort needed, even the police chief resigned.

        Police need to be trained in deconfliction, not rewarded for escalation. We need a nationwide police database that keeps track of the officers, their current status, all cases they have been involved with and all records of complaints or disciplinary proceedings

        Police must be required to request the use of letha force IN ADVANCE of its use. Even soldiers in a combat zone have that requirement and we arent being occupied (yet).

        Maybe this woman’s death becomes the straw that breaks the camel’s back, but it is long past time when we citizens should have demanded criminal reform.

        2/505 PIR, H-Minus
        Have a great day!

        • Notreelyhelping

          One could argue that Watts, Newark, and Chicago ’68 were pretty solid examples of televised police brutality as well.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    Whats sad is this might be what finally wakes up the population that the Police are out of control and we need to do something about it. The cops who shot this woman arent goign to skate on this for sure. I mean look at AIDS, everyone was content to ignore the problem because it only infected Gays and Junkies. When suddenly straight white people got the disease, the majority figured out theres a problem. Its depressing i know but its true.

    • ahughes798

      Same with the “Opioid Crisis.” It’s a crisis now because middle-class suburbanites are dying from it. It wasn’t even mentioned when it was killing minorities and poor whites.

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