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It’s been such a long week! And we’re still waiting to find out the identity of the 8th person in that Trump Tower, Russian Clown Car, Treason, Hacking, Adoption Meeting! Did you ever think you’d hate that “American Psycho” son of a bitch more than you did the first time you saw this picture?

But then came this week, with a different lie every day, and the Hannity interview, and the Tweets.

It’s exhausting! So, let’s take a break from Don, Jr. and spend a little time hating on Jared Kushner, without whom none of this would be possible. Since we only found out about the Russian conspiracy meeting when Jared “remembered” it and had to revise his security disclosure again. To be honest, Trumpworld’s indispensable man is really kind of a fuck up. And while DJ has been hogging all the attention, Kush has kept his name in the paper by setting a series of tire fires that show no sign of going out.

Let’s Fuck-Up-splore!!!!

Jared Knows PR

When Kushner finally copped to the meeting with Veselnitskaya, it was in the third version of his SF86 clearance disclosure. Yahoo reports that the original version was “accidentally” submitted on January 18.

His lawyers have said this was inadvertent and that a member of his staff had prematurely hit the “send” button for the form before it was completed. Within twelve hours, they have said, Kushner notified the FBI that he would make amendments and disclose his meetings with foreign officials.

Yeah…NO. This is a multi-step process, replete with warnings that omissions are a felony. Feeding the press a bullshit story to explain why he left 100+ names off the list just pissed off everyone who ever filled out the form.

Kushner’s team was so eager to correct the mistake that they waited a full five (5!) months to submit a revision. And they left the Veselnitskaya meeting off the May version, too. Weird!

Democrats are leading the charge to revoke Kushner’s clearance to review classified materials.

And while they’re on the subject, Democrats are just wondering if Ivanka has updated her own disclosures. Did Jared’s selective amnesia put his wife in jeopardy when she failed to disclose her spouse’s contacts? Because that’s a felony. And if Ivanka was somehow not involved in this Russia mess before, she is now!

Jared Knows HR

The New York Times reported that Jared Kushner strongly urged Trump to fire FBI Director James Comey in May. Even Steve Bannon knew that it would blow up in their faces. But Kushner was blessed with the aggressive instincts of a man who’s never had to throw a punch. Or perhaps he was shit-scared because his prints were all over the conspiracy with Russia. ALLEGEDLY.


Whatever the reason, firing James Comey led directly to the appointment of Robert Mueller as Special Counsel. Well played, Boychik!

But Trumpworld’s silent man isn’t done! He wants the White House to come out swinging, at Mueller and everyone else. Politico reports that,

Kushner has wanted them to complain about chyrons on cable news, call reporters to update stories with White House statements, and unleash surrogates immediately. He has been angry that there were no talking points offered to surrogates, the source said. One senior administration official suggested that two aides from the communications shop be dedicated to updating chyrons. […]

“Jared wanted to get surrogates, he wanted an op-ed in The [Wall Street] Journal and The [New York] Times, and we said, ‘Wait, we have to talk through how that will play out. Who is going to say it, who is going to put their name on the op-ed and what baggage do they have?’” the outside adviser also said.

Yes, the taxpayers would be delighted to fund two full-time, government employees to yell at CNN about their chyrons!

Jared is too stupid to realize that any aide dispatched to lie for them on camera will be deposed by Mueller and have to spend thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer. Or maybe he doesn’t care.

AOTK.

But this is all FAKE NEWS according to someone in the White House. Although no one actually wants to put his name on the denial. Politico reports,

“These conversations simply did not happen and Jared did not raise a single one of these points besides saying thank you to everyone for their continued hard work,” the White House said in a statement attributed to Spicer, Sanders, spokesman Josh Raffel and other White House aides including Raj Shah, Jessica Ditto and Lindsay Walters.

UH HUH.

Jared Knows IT

The cherry on top of this shit sundae came out in a Wall Street Journal article Friday.

Jared’s government portfolio includes using his magical MBA to show those tech companies how to innovate. He really learned a lot about tech from the Russians during the campaign when he coordinated the fake news assault in Wisconsin and Michigan. ALLEGEDLY.

Last month, Jared presided over the White House Technology Summit. Everyone was there, including Apple, Google, Microsoft, Oracle and OpenGov.

WAIT, what’s that last one? Well, OpenGov is a tech startup that Kushner’s venture capital firm used to have an ownership stake in. But don’t worry, Jared sold his shares to his brother, so there’s no conflict of interest here. Plus, the staff came up with the idea to invite OpenGov all by themselves!

Mr. Kushner didn’t suggest the invitation to OpenGov, according to Matt Lira, who works in his innovation office. “It was my idea to invite OpenGov to our technology leadership listening session,” Mr. Lira said in a statement. He added that he knew OpenGov from working with them in previous congressional roles.

OpenGov is valued at $180 million, so it definitely earned its seat at the table with those companies whose average value is $250 billion. And OpenGov only sells its software to states and municipalities right now, but it would really like to scale up and start doing business with the federal government. So inviting them to this summit to hobnob with the bigboys just makes sense!

Yep! Most transparent administration ever!

[Yahoo / Business Insider / Politico / Politico, again / NYTimes / Politico, again / WSJ]

All weekend, Wonkers! Don’t forget to tip your server!

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  • Bill D. Burger
  • memzilla Ω
  • Michael R
  • jaspersdad
    • weejee

      Need more rain to help with the melting.

  • FukuiSanYesOta

    How the fuck is that sack of shoddily glued-together off-the-shelf products valued at $180M?

    Repeatedly hits head on desk

    • Michael R

      Kellyanne Conway = $40 million +

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Moves on to poking eyes with crayons

        • tehbaddr

          “I hate when that happens.”

  • weejee
    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      The John Paul era is the gift that keeps on giving, isn’t it?

  • tehbaddr

    Jared is just another rich inbred hoofwanking bunglecunt.

  • AJ Milne

    (Blinks at ‘…At minimum, this should read “prematurely clicked 26 buttons and entered password twice for the [clearance] form before it was completed”…)

    … so… someone please tell me the nuclear football’s confirmation sequence is longer than that.

    … pretty please.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      I’ve got some pretty bad news for you there …

      • Ill-Advised

        Let me guess. It’s the Staple’s “EASY” button, isn’t it.

    • Duke

      I bet it’s fun to play with on the toilet.

    • shivaskeeper

      Sort of. At least two people need to authenticate the nuclear codes so Two Scoops can’t do it unilaterally.

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Due to a mix-up in HR, the other person is Scott Baio, unfortunately.

        • shivaskeeper

          Well, his acting career is shot because he’s a conservative, so he may as well be in charge of the second authentication. It’s not like he has anything better to do.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Bannon and . . . who else, do you think?

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          Jared. The good news is they hate each other and can’t agree on anything

          • AJ Milne

            There was a science fiction short I read years ago in which one side in a nuclear conflict refused to retaliate, deciding it was better to give the others a chance to run the world, for better or for worse, rather than destroy everything…

            … this would be a slightly more believable twist. Petty, mutually hateful, spent the critical three minutes arguing, so _couldn’t_ retaliate.

          • shivaskeeper

            This is based on a real world situation. A Russian early warning system showed we launched a first strike.

            The guy that was supposed to report the strike and prep for retaliation didn’t. He figured it to be the system glitch it was since no other systems were showing anything. Since then we have gone with two party authentication. Two to send the codes to launch, two to receive, authenticate, and launch on the distant end.

        • Ill-Advised

          This is a weekly contest, right?

    • Doug Langley
  • Oblios_Cap

    When will Jared be able to do his eleventy-hundred jobs if he keeps getting caught up in all this Russian-ey stuff?

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      I honestly just spat beer out then.

      Like he’s doing jack shit right now.

      • Seek

        That’s a waste of beer. You need a few more to become immune to surprise.

  • bookish

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/republican-states-want-the-trump-white-house-to-stop-protecting-dreamers?google_editors_picks=true

    Late last month, the Republican attorneys general from ten states (along with a governor) issued a threat to the Trump Administration. Unless the President dismantled an Obama-era program called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or daca, which established “lawful presence” for undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, they would file a federal lawsuit against the program and attempt to dismantle it themselves. In a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions announcing their intentions, the officials touted their credentials as “the state plaintiffs that successfully challenged the Obama Administration.” They were referring to their success in convincing a federal court, in 2014, to block an expanded version of daca aimed at protecting the parents of daca recipients. At the time, challenging daca itself—a broadly popular program designed for young people who grew up as Americans—was politically risky, even in deep-red states. But with a new Administration in the White House, these officials are emboldened.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Let them. We need to make sure we take names and pictures and showcase that on every TV ad towards the midterms. I know y’all may be thinking that it’s only going to embold the racists (it will) but it will have the opposite effect with young people. This is their friends being deported, this is folks with whom they went to school; people who sound, think and see the world just like them. It’s different when it hits close to home.

      • nightmoth

        Good idea. Does the upper echelon of the Democratic Party have enough sense to do it?

        • puredog

          Extremely dubo.

        • Ill-Advised

          No. Apparently we’re still courting the butthurt, and the younger Congressionals want to terminate Pelosi and make their new, beautiful, newbie mistakes, which makes great sense when we’re in a major crisis that could make the U.S. the new home of global fascism.

  • snigsy

    Nepotism is such a winning strategy.

    • DainBramage

      Somebody peed in their gene pool.

    • Doug Langley

      True story: many years ago worked in the Hollywood film industry. One day I ran into the boss’s son. Boss was trying to find a job for Junior. Our conversation went like this:

      “So I understand your dad is trying to get you a job in video.”
      “Uh huh. You know anything about video?”
      “Well, a little.”
      “Oh.” He holds up a tape cassette. “Can you tell me if this is VHS or 3 quarter inch?”

      • AJ Milne

        … and it was a compact audio cassette?

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          It was actually an Optimus Prime transformers toy.

        • Doug Langley

          I’m trying to remember. It might have been Beta.

      • Walter Wellstone

        Donald would have put him in charge of PBS.

  • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

    OT: @Komsumverweigerer Ron, I got something else all-but-done:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ca14f732d5352f350c8e1f82a5940ccae36406e6c63b741d1da35f815a894d8.jpg

    My 1/48 M4A3E8 from Hobbyboss, modified for the “Dust 1947” wargame.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/978dbc95f524512347d73a9ba6b1fe7917211f1595757a3f003c7f1fb3b4199b.jpg

    The main mods are Dust “Victory” .50 and .30 cal machineguns, and the red jerry cans are to mark the tank as a diesel conversion, the resin Diesel engine deck costs more than the kit itself so I improvised.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64790e486cec71a3c1677af28c45232e2ff986df8348ebc8b26dba3cbf0de10c.jpg

    The TC I found on eBay last Summer. This tank is for the 1st Cavalry Division in Mesopotamia, 1947. “Garry Owen and Glory!” I have a couple of Dust Walker-mechs that will also too be for 1st Cav. Most of my Dust Allies are Marines, I wanted something different tho.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      DAYUM, you have a real talent for this! That’s awesome.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

        Thank you. :D Have Airbrush, Will Travel. I adore Vallejo Model Air paint.

      • weejee

        Lola??

    • Walter Wellstone

      That girl’s got some hips. Nice work.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

        Thanx! xD I do a lot of Pin-Up girls for Dust, my Axis, SSU, and Mercenary Commanders are female, and a lot of my tank drivers are as well.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Love the Lola painted on the side. Detailing is amazing

    • Shibusa

      Tanks for the photo, Anna.

      • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

        *golf clap* Well Played. xD

    • Subrok

      “What did the Chinese say when the Russians invited them to lunch?”
      “Tanks, but no Tanks!”

      *choke* *gasp*

  • Biel_ze_Bubba
  • Scooby

    He’s forgetting the first 3 rules of criminal defense law.
    1. Shut up
    2. Shut up
    3. Shut up!

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I thought that had rule had been changed to “be transparent and tell your side of the story”?

    • Subrok

      “Whats the first rule of assassination?” <– don't want to google the spelling
      "Kill the assassins."
      -Star Trek VI

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    What a smart, smart bunch these foils are! I bet Vlad is thrilled purple and pink with yellow spots by his purchase. I mean, apart from the treason. And the incompetence. And the tendency to stomp on their own dicks. And the occasional slip-ups when they tell the (at least partial) truth. And the cartoonish villainy that makes them reflexively yell, “Obama! Hillary! Emails!” And the bankruptcy.
    Apart from all that, I’m sure he’s very satisfied.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    “it was in the third version of his SF86 clearance disclosure”

    Seriously when, if ever, does it move from “revised” and “i forgot” to lying on a fucking serious government document?

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      When the Democrats are in power.

    • Jamoche

      Silicon Valley takes its NDAs more seriously than the Trump government takes treason accusations, and if I had to fill out a form stating how many times I’d talked to Microsoft when I was an Apple employee, it would not take me three versions to remember all of them. (For one thing, when I was there I’d be facing the wrath of Steve if I’d leaked, and you do not want that.)

  • memzilla Ω
    • wait! what?

      That should be:

      “Hillary and ‘the’ Ukraine”

      • memzilla Ω

        No, these are Twitler supporters, so usage is correct. Same people who would say they’re “going to Bronx.”

        • Jamoche

          But putting “the” in front of it is the incorrect version; “Ukraine” is a country, “the Ukraine” is a region of Russia.

          • tomamitai

            Not any more it isn’t.

      • tomamitai

        Only if you want to piss off the Ukrainians.

        • Jamoche

          Which they do… or at least, they’d do whatever Putin wants, and he wants.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        nope, not anymore

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    What tickles me is how, as soon as people started talking about “transparency,” Twitler started talking about making “the wall” transparent. It’s as if his wiring were bad.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      A transparent wall – now he’s just veering off into total idiocy. How do you engineer a “transparent wall” to withstand wind loads? What he’s talking about is a fence.
      What’s really sad is that at one time he was actually involved in real estate development, which requires a passing knowledge of construction.

      • tomamitai

        I thought his role in those deals was to pick the colors, mostly gold, and to permit them to use his name? Oh, and to tell the accounting department not to pay the contractors their full fees.

      • BillEGoatSmirk

        Total idiocy indeed. Transparent in order to prevent random Mexicans from chucking sacks of drugs over the wall hitting Americans in the head. Is that a thing?

        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          If it were, Americans would be lined up three deep.

    • tomamitai

      I thought someone made up that shit about Trump wanting to make the wall transparent as a joke, but the joke’s on US.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Has anyone asked him how the Border Patrol is supposed to catch the bad guys if they can just look through the wall to see where the BP is?

      • BillEGoatSmirk

        It’s gonna’ be a one-way mirror like in a Law & Order interrogation.

  • Kim W.

    Poor Jared and his premature stuff.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Like Tobias Funke he shoots his wad prematurely and ends up with a sticky mess in hands.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Fred Willard libulz!!11!!

  • Subrok

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8962904a03abc3da54489f51bfe75b05388618bc0866e51286bb12f77fe96244.jpg

    So The Kush is supposedly 6’3″, an inch taller than myself but I outweigh him by at least fifty pounds. That photo is really something.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      They were holding America’s funeral.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Pope Awesome looks thrilled.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      Donnie Two Scoops the only one smiling. He really looks like an idiot there. Can’t take social cues from others.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        that’s because he just got the joke someone told him an hour ago…

      • Eileen Besse

        Looks to me more like a grimace, what with the clenched teeth and all….

    • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

      Good Gawd Almighty. Roll SAN, minus 10.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        hi! Good to see you again!

        Took a little break?

        Hope you got lotso fun model stuff done.
        ; )

        • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

          Hey, thanx. :) Yeah, I was kind of a mess, with being Triggered and stuff, but I have gotten some painting done.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            cool! People worry here when you go away, but we’ve got faith you’re just taking a break.

            ; )

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      I have got it!

      Trump loves Kush so much, cause Kush is everything Trump weights to be: good looking, an inch taller, 150 lbs lighter, and married to ivanka.

      (rimshot).

    • The Wanderer

      Red Light Frankie’s wishing that he could’ve had an exorcist on call for that visit.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Donnie seems to be totally out of it. He’s not reading the room at all.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        He just finishing asking Pope Frankie to pull his finger

    • Eileen Besse

      Except for the Pope, “The Addams Family.”

    • David Chaillou

      I think Ivanka and Melon dressing as 18th century puritans was a deliberate message to the redneck base that they are in no way supportive of the evil RCC. And that pope Francis read it loud and clear.

    • psychobroad

      They look like idiots. The women are dressed in Vatican visit protocol from the ’50s.

  • mailman27

    “It was my idea… Mr Lira said…” I don’t have to point out the obvious anagram for “Lira” do I? (No, not “lair.” ffs)

  • DerrickWildcat

    Jared and Don Jr. were only at the meeting to see how much they could steal from Russian Orphans.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    “Yes, the taxpayers would be delighted to fund two full-time, government employees to yell at CNN about their chyrons!”

    As i’ve mentioned, i keep an eye on Fox at the gym – Hillary clinton should have a team of baby lawyers monitoring their chyrons/on-screen graphics for defamatory content…cause it gets pretttttty close.

  • DerrickWildcat

    Hannity, “Many people are saying that your only fault in this is that you love Jesus, America and the Constitution a little too much. How do you respond to those accusations Donald Jr.?”

    • Walter Wellstone

      Many people? Sez hoo?

      The whole “Jesus, America and the Constitution” bullshit makes me wanna puke. Donnie Jr. loves money and nothing else and this fucking stubbed thumb Hannity could not be more despicable. Fuck’em both motherfuckers.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        all the voices in seans head.

    • hudson srinivasan

      wipe your face hannity, you have something on it.

      • lynchie

        and lick your lips while you are at it.

    • nightmoth

      Derrick, for the luvagod, please tell me you’re joking.

      • DerrickWildcat

        joking

        • nightmoth

          Thank you.

    • Doug Langley
    • lynchie

      If they were remotely true donnie jr.’s head would explode

  • Jamoche
    • nightmoth

      Hillary Clinton won, Hillary Clinton won, Hillary Clinton won. THE END!!!!!
      Also, impeach the traitor NOW and bring criminal charges against every single asshole in his orbit.

      • weejee

        And in past the criminal charges could we have a short brake from the required “with votes”?

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a425d898126bfeda978a23e69a40133da1d7a6f2e0a71c21129e5c3b7cb37840.gif

        • doktorzoom

          Sigh… No, we don’t do execution jokes here. Seriously, weejee, you know the rules. Why the hell am I spending any time at all on my weekend telling REGULARS, who should know better, to please observe the rules.? You see, we have these rules…

          — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

          • Ill-Advised

            It’s the ongoing reality-challenged consequence of watching the Constitution being treated like something we’d wrap bad meat in. Rules don’t matter for so many people! EVERYONE needs a mommyblog to restore sanity…

      • geoffalnutt

        That’s most of The GOP, too.

        • Little Lulu Ω

          I’m fine with that. Have the Trump family sterilized too. Sorry, angry.

  • BMW

    Wait…what did these “Clinton allies” do exactly, according to the Daily Caller?

    • SayItWithWookies

      Someone from the Ukrainian government got in touch with the Hillary campaign to warn them that Paul Manafort had worked for politicians who were Russian sock puppets, which information they made public at the same time. But according to Tucker and Hannity, this is just as bad as colluding with a nation’s intelligence service to acquire stolen data.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        they not only made it public, they went to the DoJ with the info- this just a blatant example of “they did it too” apples to oranges

        • AuntyMaude

          with the oranges being DT, of course.

      • The Green Bastard

        Warnings abt your opponents’ possible collusion w a hostile foreign gov’t is the same as collusion w a hostile foreign gov’t, yo!

      • The Librarian

        warn·ing
        ˈwôrniNG/
        noun
        a statement or event that indicates a possible or impending danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation.

        col·lude
        kəˈlo͞od/
        verb
        gerund or present participle: colluding
        come to a secret understanding for a harmful purpose; conspire.

        The only similarity is that harmful purposes are involved. :P

      • BMW

        So…not only did they not do the same thing, they did the opposite by notifying the proper authorities?

  • SayItWithWookies

    Six months in, and the administration is falling apart, with no people in place at essential positions in State and other executive offices, no legislation accomplished, riven by infighting and now collusion with the Russians, and the only thing keeping Jared out of jail now is the fortunate coincidence that the attorney general is probably hip-deep in this as well. And this is how badly things are going without any serious crisis having cropped up yet — okay, except for North Korea, which the administration has done absolutely nothing about.

    I do not want to see the shit that happens when these fucking morons have to respond to a serious situation like 9/11 or Katrina — something of that magnitude is virtually inevitable though, and they will have to act — unfortunately their response will probably involve bickering, name-calling, spotlight hogging and accusing Hillary of being at fault while people die. Or worse.

    • Jamoche

      There have already been situations major enough that FEMA would normally get involved – California’s dam failure, floods in the South – and they’ve done bupkis.

      • California doesn’t count! – this admin

        • Jamoche

          “Why should I help the people who didn’t vote for me?”

          • The Librarian

            I guess we still have our dignity. :)

      • bupkus231

        “…they’ve done bupkis”

        Hey, I protest!

        • Painter of Goats

          Was it good for you?

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        the wildfires too, no?

      • PubOption

        FEMA has been involved in flood relief in Missouri and Illinois. Both states have Republican Governors, make of that what you will.

        • Ill-Advised

          There was a water issue with farmers v. fish in Oregon that got ignored. I’m sure that has nothing to do with our female, Democratic, bisexual governor.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      and a happy saturday to you!

      Kidding, excellent points all – it was like the bush II era. I knew he was stupid, but i had started his term hoping things would be going well enough for him not to do much harm.

      I was VERY wrong.

      • SayItWithWookies

        Me too — and we as a nation should’ve learned from that, but it only took eight years to completely forget.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          ayup, put a black dude in charge and the whole ocountry freaks the fuck out.

    • bupkus231

      Face it, it’s more likely that any crisis ( or “serious situation” ) is more likely to be something brought on by their ineptitude/greed/partisan fuckery rather than a natural disaster or world event driven by other actors.

      And they’ll still blame someone else.

      • OutOfOrbit

        and grifting the fuck out of every aspect

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        eh, i’d put it at 50/50.

        Obligatory: Why not both?

      • SayItWithWookies

        But it’s inevitable that something external to their own fuckuppery will come along — crises always do. And that natural inclination to fight amongst themselves, blame others and operate like ratings were the only important metric will shine through and make any crisis just that much worse.

    • lynchie

      I predict they will hire Chertoff and Brownie (heck of a job) to come in for crisis control.

      • puredog

        Nah, Chertoff worked for the blah. Can’t have that.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i fear your prediction is wrong, neither Chertoff or Brown are related to Trump, nor do they serve him some purpose.

        Maybe he’s a cousin somewhere that needs work. His stable of Apprentice Winners isn’t depleted yet.

        • Msgr_MΩment

          Busey. Will Fix. Everything.

        • Lori

          Isn’t he feuding with most of his non-immediate family? Taking insurance away from a sick baby tend to make things a might awkward at Thanksgiving.

  • wait! what?
    • Walter Wellstone

      He shoves them up his butt to get high quicker.

      • tomamitai

        Back when I still smoked I once gave a cigarette to an apparently homeless man at a bus stop. He ripped off and discarded the filter, then smoked the thing to a nubbin in about one minute. It was like he was panting, but stuck the cigarette in his mouth at each inhale. I assume he did it to catch a buzz.

    • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

      He always looks like the 8th day of a 7-Day Bender.

      • Walter Wellstone

        That’s funny 😂

        • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

          Thanx. xD I cannot recall which movie I stole it from.

      • lynchie

        His motto is “Shit faced by 7”. Words to live by

        • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

          xD

        • Walter Wellstone

          “Buzzed by 3, Shitfaced by 7.” Let’s assume he starts at noon.

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            Noon, when he gets up.

      • Vecchioivan

        Like five pounds of dog shit in a four pound bag.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

          Yiss! Nicely put.

      • unmasked mumbler

        White nationalism is a hell of a drug.

        • Anna Elizabeth, Invicta

          And what an exemplar of the Superiority of the white Male, eh?

      • Little Lulu Ω

        Like new wine in old wineskins. Sorry, I had a religious upbringing. I’ll show myself out.

    • MizzMazz

      Poor cigarettes! Won’t someone think of the cigarettes?

  • Oddly, as i started to read this, Loser by Beck came up on my playlist

    • Parakeetist

      ‘In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey.’ – one of my favorite opening lines to a song ever.

    • Subrok

      More like The Fragile.

  • Rags

    Kush is the only thing keeping me going…..

  • mrFawkes

    If I, or any other Marine, had failed to include just one trip outside the USA, one communique with a Russian on our SF-86 form, we would have been court martialed, then dishonorably discharged.

    • weejee

      Pretty much the same in the Army.

      • mrFawkes

        And government workers with TS clearance and above (barring the military court martial and dishonorable discharge)

      • BloviateMe

        Having worked on nuclear bombers, I can imagine hard labor at Leavenworth would have been an option on the table if I’d tried that shit.

    • AuntyMaude

      That’s it! We need to get Jared to join the Marines. Also, thank you for your service.

      • mrFawkes

        He can’t. Defement for “bone spurs” in the soul.

    • Keith Jones

      Nothing these people say is true. They lie on principle. As Mary McCarthy might say about Trump: Everything he says is a lie, including “and” and “the.” It beggars belief that Kushner still retains his security clearance. If anybody in the Obama WH had lied on their security clearance documents, the Christians and Sessionites would have already stormed the White House.

      • David Chaillou

        That’s normal. Different standards for Marxist Muslims.

        • Dellajmoore

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          On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
          !pj155d:
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          • David Chaillou

            Dellaj my love, i’m a Ferrari man. Ranges are soooo bourgeois.

        • Keith Jones

          Spit it out. What are you saying? Have some courage.

          • David Chaillou

            Gosh, mate, it’s fucking second degree, isn’t that obvious? I troll the Breitbart abysses, not my soulmates at Wonkette.

  • puredog

    All of this is sure swell, all right, but for me the capper was when Trumpie hired Ty Cobb, aka “The Georgia Peach,” as his new attorney. I know it’s a tired observation, but really, peeps, you just can’t make this shit up.

    • weejee
      • AuntyMaude

        Evilest? Currently the talent pool is so deep in this area. I’ll have to decide after the swimsuit competition.

      • nightmoth

        He was a real asshole. I live about 20 miles from his hometown, which has a statue and a museum dedicated to him. Fortunately the Ty Cobb Hospital was bought and it’s name changed.

        • Erala Contratista

          Yes, this…..We had a neighbor who played pro baseball and said Cobb was a #+/(@2* and would take great pleasure in attempting, and sometimes succeeding in mayhem on opponents.

          • nightmoth

            Yeah—Deliberately tried to gouge opponents with his spiked shoes is what I heard. Mean sob.

          • Erala Contratista

            Yup, neighbor said ol’ Ty sharpened his spikes.
            Just to be thorough.

          • nightmoth

            Guess what? I idly looked up Ty Cobb this morning and it’s possible that almost everything we’ve been told about Ty Cobb is a lie. Damned if I know what to believe.
            https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/who-was-ty-cobb-the-history-we-know-thats-wrong/

      • yyyaz

        Alright, I’ve bitten my lip long enough. The “Tyrus Raymond Cobb Is Evil” meme was mostly — and provably — bullshit. Yes, he did once attack a fan in the stands for heckling him mercilessly, and it turned out the fan had lost a hand and three fingers on the other in an accident. However, most of the damage to Cobb’s reputation was done by Al Stump, whose two biographies of Cobb in the 1960s https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41e5b3b1eb18744afb3dc4194c028ef497e02f92be02a297b84b2b566dcb6551.jpg are now thoroughly discredited as being mostly fictional. Here is a pic of Cobb in 1916, the same year Stump was born.

    • Bill Diaz

      The lyrics to the song ‘Ty Cobb’ are surprisingly apt for the situation we find ourselves in now, the refrain being:

      Hard headed, f*ck you all!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYt7SsGYMM

      Have a great day!

  • bookish
  • BadKitty904

    OT: Never a dull moment here in the Land of Flowers…

    Sinkhole Stops Growing After Swallowing 2 Houses in Florida
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sinkhole-stops-growing-after-swallowing-2-houses-in-florida/ar-BBEpCLR?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    • CripesAmighty

      Too bad. That one looked like it had potential.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      it was full!

      • BadKitty904

        I remember telling a college chum from Canada about sinkholes, which she’d never heard of before. She thought I was making it up.

        • We get them in Ontario, but they are usually the result of a water main break and take out an intersection

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            that’s what we get here in the desert (and in Austin)

          • data_ninja
          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol, pedants.

            the PAVED roads in the desert.

          • weejee

            Could we feed the Sarlacc some tRumpian horderves?

          • BadKitty904

            There’s one not too far from where my brother lives in Orlando that ate a foreign auto repair shop. A number of very pricey imported cars were swallowed up.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i wonder if their insurance covered “acts of satan”.

          • BadKitty904

            In this state? Very probably.

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            Hey, sometimes you just feel like foreign food.

          • BadKitty904

            I dunno. Filling in “swallowed up by the earth” on the insurance forms has a very Old-Testamenty ring to it…

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            That, or you’re in Sarnia.

    • Vecchioivan

      Wait til it starts singing.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L7SkrYF8lCU

    • Eileen Besse

      I now live here in Florida. Nice.

      • BadKitty904

        It’s a land of never-ending “excitement”!

  • Was getting discouraged but remembered Watergate took 2½ YEARS to play out so I put this together.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7037844cf63863ce778dbb6d64fe60e4899ab5d9a1b52bbb2be9c343603465ab.jpg

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      nice!

      • (blushes… circles paw in grass)

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      Ha!

    • Erala Contratista

      Try Elizabeth Drew’s “Watergate Diaries”. It certainly helps those desperate feelings right now.

  • The Green Bastard

    Randomly found on Reddit.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/5evtgp/gif_i_made_of_trump_being_run_out_on_a_rail_from/

    “Is you is or is you ain’t my constitchients?!”

  • MizzMazz

    Apologies if this has been posted before, but anything that makes Dolt 45 unhappy makes me happy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhQkku7jLfo

    • Subrok
    • weejee

      At about 0:37 don’t they do a brief cursve “tête de merde” – poopyhead in French?

      • MizzMazz

        I don’t know, but if they did it makes it that much more fun.

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      So when’s their album coming out?

      Funny, looking at this carefully, it’s like Donnie has no idea what’s going on, as if he’s… tone deaf?

    • Persistent Demme

      OMG!
      I hate him sooooo much!

  • canes_pugnaces
    • I have a very strong gag reflex but only made it to 0:12

  • azeyote

    i hope his wife’s daddy doesn’t prematurely hit any send buttons and go all oopsie daisy –

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos
    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i just noticed, he’s on about crowd sizes again.

      • bupkus231

        He no doubt has the illusion that the “crowds” at the women’s US Open are there because HE’S there.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          i suppose it’s possible, he seems to be, at a minmum, confused the people are there to see the players.

        • Komsumverweigerer Ron

          I wonder how many people stayed home because he WAS there?

    • starfanglednut

      Stop with the excessive exclamation points and capitalization already. You’re the fucking president of the United States.

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      It’s so much like letting your six-year-old play with your typewriter and make up his own ‘newspaper.’ ‘FLASH! French fries are delicious!

    • Ill-Advised

      The women are playing great…and the song “Brown Sugar” starts in my head…while I realize that “the men are playing great” would never have been said about male golfers. The condescension from this idiot is breathtaking.

  • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance

    https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/886305799978405889 Old senator has had it up to here and he’s not going to take it anymore!

  • Lyly Sirivong

    Isn’t a clearance form something completely personal and confidential that you would have to send yourself (and not someone from your staff ?)

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i’m not sure, but confidential just means no one ELSE can release…you could probably give permission for people to work on it (otherwise lawyers and doctors would be useless).

    • mrFawkes

      With most critical and sensitive documents. an electronic signature is not accepted. It must be a physical signature.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i still can’t believe texas allows e-signatures for legal documents…it’s convenient as hell, but wow.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    heh, so much winning:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Two of the insurance industry’s most powerful organizations say a crucial provision in the Senate Republican health care bill allowing the sale of bare-bones policies is “unworkable in any form,” delivering a blow to party leaders’ efforts to win support for their legislation.

    The language was crafted by conservative Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and leaders have included it in the overall bill in hopes of winning votes from other congressional conservatives. But moderates have worried it will cause people with serious illnesses to lose coverage, and some conservatives say it doesn’t go far enough.

    • nightmoth

      Having language crafted by Ted Cruz is like your first-grader crafting a model house out of ice cream sticks. Only not done with any love.

    • Zippy W Pinhead
    • Vecchioivan

      Moderates worry that the hippie is already dead, but the conservatives say “let’s punch him again.”

    • bupkus231

      The problem I see in that second paragraph is that it’s all couched in terms of political calculation – while the reality of what the “Consumer Freedom Option” would do to not only the insured, but the insurance industry is not susceptible to political calculation. I am disappointed that the AP story chooses to put it in these terms.

      Cruz’s proposal is nothing more than a poison pill for the insurance industry – and not just the insured. “Poison pills” have long been used to kill unfavorable legislation – are we sure that McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership realize this? By any sane standard, the “Consumer Freedom Option” should be seen as a BRCA ( not just an ACA ) killer.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        well, i think they may have phrased it that way as it’s the “ostensible” reason it was included.

        As to poison pill, i dunno. I’m not calculating or politically saavy, but neither are mostRepublicans.

      • JustDon’tSaySortMyBalls

        Wait – so Cruz is doing the RIGHT thing? FFS, don’t tell him!

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          well, he’s doing it for the wrong reasons. In bizarro Republican world, the cruz section is a compromise meant to get the thing to pass.

          Republicans NEED it to pass, as does trump. It’s already embarrassing they didn’t have a plan ready to go on inaugration day.

  • Shanzgood

    So who exactly is supposed to be charging Kushner with at least one felony for filing the false report?

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      mueller’s added it to his list…he’ll need a few more lawyers though.

      • Shanzgood

        Good. I want him to hurry the hell up but, dammit, also get it RIGHT.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          i imagine there’s lots to sift through…patience!

          • Shanzgood

            Maybe he can start with easy stuff like this just to put the shit up the rest of them and make them panic even more.

        • bupkus231

          “… hurry the hell up but,….”

          Oh, gawd, pleez….

      • Subrok

        Yes but I’m wavering on the point that they’ll show their hand, Trump will say “so what?” and that’ll be the ball game.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          that’s why that shit has GOT to be bulletproof and that takes time.

        • AuntyMaude

          Trump is probably kicking himself for firing Flynn.

          • Ill-Advised

            Probably kicking Priebus because he couldn’t kick Kushner.

      • AuntyMaude

        And more legal pads!

      • PubOption

        If the scandal grows exponentially, Muller might never get to the bottom of it.

  • Canis Greyhame

    Yep, the shittiest crime family in New York is now squatting in the Oval Office somehow.

    • AuntyMaude

      Don’t they know where the bathroom is?

      • yyyaz

        They don’t care. The little people are only there to clean up their messes.

      • Canis Greyhame
        • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

          He didn’t need to learn manners or gracious behavior. Youda thunk that some of that would be taught at that military school where his parents outsourced his discipline, but if so, he forgot pretty quickly.

          • bupkus231

            We used to drive past part of that “military academy” back in the 60s, when I was just a kid and my grandparents still lived in NYC.

            It looked second-rate, even then – I was surprised when I learned Rump was sent there by his ‘rents, instead of some “higher class” institution.

            I have no basis in which to compare military academies, but in the years since, I see no basis to think this place was anything at all near an “elite” place to send our kid…

  • Bill Diaz

    Knowing 100 foreign nationals and meeting with them on a regular basis is easy peasy if you are a scientist or doctor. 30% of doctors in the US are foreign born and in some fields at US universities, immigrants can make up well over 50% of the staff, faculty and students.

    Anyone who has worked with the vast number of muslims in the US loves Eid al Fitr, as observant muslims will bring trays of the yummiest tummy treats in the world to mark the end of Ramadan. Here in the US, it is not uncommon for people of Islamic and Jewish faith to be best friends, co-workers and eico-authors. I myself, as an American combat vet, married an ‘enemy national’ born in the Soviet Union, so strong is the melting pot of the brain sweat industry (that and brilliant women are hawtness itself).

    On top of that, it is hard to find a first generation American family without one or more members of their family serving in uniform, especially those of Islamic faith and the importance of their language skills (CPT Khan, this is for you, bro!). My own son, a first generation American, is going to med school courtesy of the US Army, intending to put his Russian and Ukrainian skills to work as a doctor in 10th Group. There is nothing I can say or do to stop him, he feels the need to sacrifice for his nation in a way that a father’s wisdom or experience cant touch.

    Sorry for the long screed on a small point, but this country runs on immigrant labor and efforts. It always has, always will and there is nothing that the evil and ignorant reich wing racist nationalists can do to turn back the tide.

    2/505 PIR, H-Minus
    Have a great day!

    • Subrok

      The rather scary statistic that a majority of people will live in the fifteen largest cities by ~20XX and those will have maybe thirty senators to the emptied territories and their 70-some senators.

      • Komsumverweigerer Ron

        The ‘rotten borough’ problem writ large.

    • bupkus231

      The problem here is that, to most Americans, “brain sweat” is something that they cannot deign to exercise.

      • Bill Diaz

        That is why so many foreign nationals make their home in science, medicine, math, engineering and all the other subjects that are ‘too hard’ for most Americans to do. Immigrants are 5 times more likely to be entrepreneurs than their native born counterparts.

        The jobs we lose to immigrants arent the ones digging ditches, but practicing medicine and doing physics.

        If you are at a 4th of July party and less than half the people there only speak one language, you may be a scientist.

        Have a great day!

        • bupkus231

          As much disdain I have for most of my fellow Americans, I have to caution you that “foreign nationals” and immigrants that make it to our shores have mostly already faced a “selection process” that makes it inevitable that there would be a higher percentage of “high achievers” in that subset than in the overall population.

          I mean, there aren’t quite as many “Bubbas” amongst the immigrant population as there are amongst the “native” population – and THAT’S by choice, not opportunity or nature.

        • Charlie Foxtrot

          “Immigrants are 5 times more likely to be entrepreneurs than their native born counterparts.”

          Immigrants, by moving to a different country, have already demonstrated courage, confidence, energy and willingness to embrace risk. The moment one arrives here, an immigrant has the temperament and tenacity to be a successful entrepreneur.

          Immigrants are one of our best sources of innovation, economic growth, and opportunity.

          • Bill Diaz

            ‘Courage, confidence, energy and willingness to embrace risk’

            In a nutshell, half of why I married my wife. The ability to ‘jump’ and move off of Vesuvius before it erupts is something that many people lack, but is a simple fact of life for immigrants.

            Have a great day!

    • weejee

      My VA oncologist is a Muslim from India.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      As a former government worker, I worked with several of Muslim civil engineers, including a few Libyans who had to flee thanks to Khadaffi. One was one of the kindest, most gracious men I’ve ever met, but Crom he was a scary, aggressive driver.

      • Persistent Demme

        Ha, ha!
        Reminds me of when we were in Jordan.
        A Jordanian was telling us about his travels in the US, but couldn’t understand why the drivers were always honking at him.
        In Jordan, many drive down the middle of a two lane one-way road, (straddle both lanes), and only pick a lane when they “need” to.
        I am guessing that the US drivers didn’t like that too much.

  • BadKitty904

    Jared’s Dad, Charles, thought he was pretty smart, too. That’s how he wound up in the federal penitentiary.

    • bupkus231

      Really? I just read that the reason Jared’s dad went to prison is because he tried to cover up his financial crimes by trying to smear his brother-in-law with a sex tape, because his BIL was testifying against him.

      It’s pretty clear that Charles wasn’t all that smart, either.

      • BadKitty904

        It’s pretty clear that Charles wasn’t all that smart, either.

        That was my point.

        • bupkus231

          Meeeeow! I wasn’t challenging your position, I was trying to add to it. I already forget where I read the short recap of Charles Kushner’s crimes, but I do remember thinking, “How does anyone think the apple falls far from that tree?”

          These guys are just so amazing in their combined venality/stupidity – it’s so wonder Trump loves Jared….

          • BadKitty904

            lol No, no, no, I wasn’t being bitchy! It’s just that sometimes jokes don’t come across very clearly online – sometimes my humor is genuinely misunderstood.

            That being said, Dad was convicted of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering, so Sonnyboy obviously wasn’t smart enough to learn anything from his father’s crimes. The only diff I can see here is that the Russo-Republican Congress will make quite certain that none of these White House criminals ever pay for their treasonous crimes.

          • bupkus231

            The piece I read earlier talked about Jared “learning” anything – and concluded that all that Jared was taught was not to get caught.

            I guess he didn’t learn that, either.

            I wish I could remember/find the piece I read ( that’s a problem I have – TMI, then never being able to reconstruct where I “gained” the info ) – but it’s clear we’re on the same page per Jared. I would say that the “Russo” part of your characterization is just an artifact of the “current unpleasantness” – it’s the “Republican” part that dominates.

          • BadKitty904

            Part A is what most stuns me – given the hell and damnation that his family went through a decade+ ago, he STILL blithely believes the law doesn’t apply to him. he apparently learned nothing whatsoever from his father’s disgrace.

            You are correct, in re: Part B – the Republican Party has been an actual threat to the liberties, security, and well-being of the United States longer than Russia has.

          • bupkus231

            Well, “longer” is a debatable point – but it’s certainly true in the last 30 years.

          • Zyxomma

            Almost 40 by my reckoning.

    • Little Lulu Ω

      Yes. The prisons are full of people smarter than Jared and his dad. That wisdom should hit Jared someday while he’s conscious, but, uh, it won’t.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    So are we still talking about Sean Spicer trying to smear Daft Punk? Because if we do I have something to add to the convo.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      wait, wut? cause that is a battle (among gen xers and millenials) they’ll lose.

    • Robbertjan Brandenburg

      Fuck it I might as well add it. As some people may know I was a reporter/journalist when I was in my 20’s. There were many things that formed me, The belleville three from detroit, the Dutch hardcore scene, The european trance and progressive scene but one major part was Daft Punk’s 1997 Alive tour. The music was uplifting, unmatched, illogical, mesmerising and provoking. It gave me a total new look at music.

      They did to EDM like the Beatles did to pop, Jimi Hendrix to rock and roll and Bob marley to reggae.

      I dare you to listen to it with an open mind.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JSQVYhNcRs&t=1447s

      And my favorite part is when they go bezerk from minute 14.

      • therealcharlesdarwin

        You know about Alive 2017, then?

        • Robbertjan Brandenburg

          Since it is not december 31 I am not assuming we will reach that stage.

    • BoatOfVelociraptors

      Only if it’s vocoded.

  • BadKitty904
    • weejee

      Echo chamber with a very extended delay.

    • Shanzgood

      Did he really?

      • yyyaz

        Oh yeah. Nearly verbatim.

        • BadKitty904

          The GOP isn’t really very creative about its lies.

          • yyyaz

            Or much good at plumbing work either.

          • FlownΩver

            They always confused plumbing with HVAC. That’s why the shit eventually hit the fan.

          • Ricky Gay

            They’ve never learned how to wipe.

        • Shanzgood

          Holy crap!

  • weejee
    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      bannon? not surprising.

      • weejee

        Na, the photog is of evil Bannon’s sekret good twin.

    • BadKitty904

      Jimmy Hoffa?

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      KellyAnne?

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Kushner has wanted them to complain about chyrons on cable news,

    Being an ass-toot reader of this blog this afternoon, I know that chyrons come from sperm.

    Carry on, please.

  • Damian Hammontree

    This “accidentally hit the send button on the SF86 form” thing is like saying that cars fly. Everyone who’s ever actually driven or ridden in a car would, for some strange reason, know how laughable a lie it is.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Again, they are speaking to their base. Their base thinks it’s some kind of tractor.

  • kindness

    Why is it so many entitled young scions of money find themselves born on third and think they hit a home run?

    • SisterArtemis

      Cuz nobody done raised ’em right, that’s why. Terrible, terrible people, and now they’re inbreeding.

      • bupkus231

        So, having money worth inheriting automatically leads to poor parenting skills?

        Yeah – actually, that’s sounds about right.

        • Lori

          It seems to mostly lead to having the children raised by nannies. Being “the help” said nannies have very limited ability to discipline the little darlings and mummy and daddy certainly don’t want to hear about any problems with their spawn. They come from the best people after all.That doesn’t tend to promote the development of either intellect or good character in the children.

          • HarpyLibtart

            Exactly – they receive very little in the way of discipline or parental modelling of good behavior and during their formative years, they are mostly raised by nannies and assorted employees, none of whom have the authority or probably even interest in doing the work it takes to instill a child with a moral compass and empathy for others.
            When their parents do pay attention to them, it’s either overly effusive praise to make up for the lack of quality time spent with them, criticism of any normal childlike behavior that deviates from the perfect princeling ideal expected from such scions of ‘good breeding’ or a flurry of denial and mitigation of consequences when the child does something horrendous.
            They grow up confused and angry because they don’t understand why they’re being told that they are precious perfect little angels who deserve the best of everything but they feel shitty and unwanted when they realize the people who are supposed to love them have fobbed them off to servants because they have better things to do and the people who actually take care of them only do it because they’re paid…Add that deep-seated unhappiness and chronic mistrust of people to a stiff dose of entitlement and self-absorption and you’ve got yourself a budding sociopath.

    • Old town Urbandale

      That’s so 90’s. Today’s privileged people are born on third and think they hit a freakin’ grand slam.

  • SadDemInTex

    Has anyone else thought that this is President Bannon’s chess moves that is involving We Went to Jared?

    • David Chaillou

      I think you shouldn’t forget the silent ones: Priebus and Pence. What are their game aims?

  • Jamoche

    FFS, don’t give him any ideas – this is the same team who didn’t know they could just ask their own intelligence service if they wanted to know something.

    In an interview on CNN, Heck noted to host Jim Acosta that federal law does not require a president to make public any pardons he or she issues.

    Therefore, Donald Trump could “privately” give a “blanket, prospective pardon to anyone and everyone involved in any and all activities associated with” potential collusion and conspiracy between the Trump team and Russia.

    http://shareblue.com/house-intel-dem-warns-trump-could-issue-private-prospective-blanket-pardon-on-russia/

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      No need to do that. Our next Dem President will pardon them all in the interests of “moving forward”.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        After a year or so in office, natch. Let them savor the accommodations for a while. Please?

      • Lefty Wright

        Don’t bet on it. This is some serious shot and it involves a hostile foreign government and election tampering. Any Democrat signing on to that may be signing their own political death. Nixon was the only one of the Watergate crew that got off. I hope Trump does not.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        Don Jr. is just a kid! His treason was a youthful indiscretion.

    • bupkus231

      I dunno – Heck’s assertion seems to ignore the idea that crimes committed AFTER the behavior that was pardoned could be prosecuted.

      It’s like they always say, “It’s not the crime, it’s the coverup”, And there’s no such thing as a “blanket pardon”, even at the presidential level, let alone a “prospective” one. Rump can make as many promises as he wants to, but if any of the principals involved believe in them, they’re as gullible as Rump’s “base”.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        This also assumes Donnie Two Scoops is: a. still President, and b. not under indictment.

        • bupkus231

          Would being “under indictment” ( i.e. impeached, but awaiting the Senate trial ) make a difference?

          Hell, even if the Senate convicted him ( and until he was removed ), would that even remove his powers of pardon. We’ve never gone that far…

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      I’ve always thought he probably did this, including pardoning himself, on Day One, and stuck it in a drawer for when it was needed. But pardoning only keeps you from criminal prosecution, not impeachment or firing.

      • Mormos

        or public stoning

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          “Oh man, I hate stonings.

  • Komsumverweigerer Ron

    This story, the whole Russian thing, is a gift that keeps on giving, and not just for its entertainment value.
    See, Congress is in a mess. Nothing’s getting done, and the way it looks nothing ever WILL get done. Now normally when Congress is mucking up the President or one of his closer aides will start making calls, visiting offices, connection with people and finding a way of moving things along. It’s part of the job. The President is a leader, and this is what ‘leading’ IS.
    But Donnie DGAF about any of this. He has no idea what’s going on in that big white building. He doesn’t care. His sole interest right now is ‘handling’ the slow-motion train wreck happening around him, and his entire interest in what happens in the legislative branch involves his ‘legacy’ – killing the ACA. But that isn’t happening. Neither are those appalling tax cuts. And he won’t be making any calls or visiting offices or connecting with lawmakers because his goldfish-like focus is on one thing and one thing only: himself.
    tl;dr: The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that the Republic will survive after all.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Hooray?

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      So … yippee?

      • Dudleydidwrong

        My concern is that when they finally see that they won’t get their “way,” what they will do either out of wrath or to deflect judgment. Are there any adults in this outfit who can think of country first? “Bueller? Bueller?”

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I hope the GOP’s next autocrat is just as ridiculously inept, otherwise we’re in real trouble.

  • BadKitty904

    Have y’all ever noticed, e.g., in the pic above, that Jared’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes…

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      We’re gonna need a bigger prison…

      • Marla

        The GOP is for building plenty of private ones so no question Jared will soon have a new home.

        • FauxAntocles

          Hopefully there’s enough room for the rest of the GOP.

        • BadKitty904

          Not while the GOP controls Congress.

          • Ill-Advised

            Can we just build a cage around Ryan’s office? And a firewall configured to admit ads only.

            That’d be great. THANKS! :-)

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I’m gonna need a bigger tar vat.

    • janecita

      Dead eyes. He reminds me of “the other mother,” from “Coraline.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dd7fe5f5a9a1f11a020ec9f97be1186508a0861960a621a21f28415d1db1d8c2.gif

      • Lori

        This. Everyone needs to stop talking about how hot he is because it’s freaking me out.

        • Manders

          Yeah. He’s not hot. Put him next to an actual hot person and you’ll think, “Oh, I see. He has nice clothes and a decent body. That approximates hot, if you don’t look into his dead, dead eyes.”

        • psychobroad

          Hear here. He looks like a weasel.

          • Lori

            At least some members of the weasel family are cute. Those dead eyes are like something out of horror movie—Children of the Corn VII: The Cornfield Goes Condo.

    • counterlife

      Melania and Ivanktoinette suffer from the same. Their eyes are dead, express nothing. Senior, Junior and Eric’s eyes manage to express stupid at least. I am looking forward to seeing some fear in all those eyes.

    • Ill-Advised

      Coraline libel!!

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
  • Mr. Blobfish

    No wonder trump likes Kushner. They both think alike.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      The only question is the definition of “think.”

  • Khavrinen

    “Yes, the taxpayers would be delighted to fund two full-time, government employees to yell at CNN about their chyrons!”

    Isn’t this the same administration who has, in six months, only managed to appoint something like 20% of the people they need to run the government? They can’t even fill the positions they’ve got, now they want to invent more?

  • SnarkON

    “His lawyers have said this was inadvertent and that a member of his staff had prematurely hit the “send” button”

    Poor guy. Yet another victim of Premature Dissemination.

    • The Librarian

      Wasn’t in the script.

  • janecita

    I’d love to prematurely hit the blow up button on this whole treasonous administration.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      We left “prematurely” weeks ago.

  • JMP

    Why, it’s almost like getting into Harvard after daddy donates millions of dollars to them is not indicative of intelligence, and Ivy League acceptance policy is largely based around class rather than intellectual ability.

    • Alan

      Harvard has worked very hard to be blind to class in admissions (except when it comes with a big check). So have several others.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Not really. Legacy still outweighs other factors, although even a legacy has to qualify (i.e. have the smarts, or have the bucks).

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I think we all know which one of those (bucks) was involved in Jared’s acceptance to Harvard.

      • Lori

        I don’t see how this is possible as more than a PR show, given that in the vast majority of cases a student’s class is obvious from information that’s required on the application, like which high school they attended. Making an effort to give more slots to kids who didn’t go to Choate is not the same thing as class blind admissions.

        • Alan

          Nothing’s perfect but they’ve made a substantial effort. Their recently admitted class was 15% black, 22% asian, and almost 50% ethnic minority total. It’s no longer a bunch of rich white guys. With that said, the best indicators of student achievement are family income and parents educational attainment so it’s going to be skewed by that no matter what. But it’s not like it used to be. My daughter was admitted.

  • BUT HIS ABS!!!
    -Unnamed Wonketteers

    • Jamoche

      Pretty sure that’s just “Unnamed Wonketteer” :D

      • Canned Covfefe

        Untamed?

      • Lori

        No, that Wonketteer definitely has a name :)

    • natoslug

      Abhorrent Bowel Syndrome?

  • therblig

    if this is the OpenGov you’re talking about, it’s a joke.

    https://opengov.com/

    it takes financial system data and turns them into graphs. woo-hoo!! transparency!!!

    like govworks.com (the subject of the movie “startup.com”) before them, they spin a fantasy of “this is how government will operate in the future”.

    unfortunately, they don’t (and didn’t) really understand how government accounts work and how to display the data. and of course, the people who really want to look at government data want raw data that they can analyze, not infantile pictures predigested with no narrative explanation.

    in my career i met with both govworks and opengov. both bullshit. and now, knowing that H.W.T Jared bought into it, i’m even more convinced.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I’ve got one word for you – Theranos!

    • Invisible Bunyip

      “We’re eliminating the bureaucracy of government application processes by utilizing consumer-friendly best practices along with innovative technology.”

      The only word missing from that sentence is “quality”.

    • HarpyLibtart

      “Eliminating the bureaucracy of government application processes” = cutting experienced staff and oversight in favor of automation and profit margins.
      “Consumer-friendly best practices along with innovative technology” = making applicants do all of the work and then blaming them when the shitty proprietary system we replaced all that staff and oversight with can’t handle the results.

  • texcynical

    Don’t look at his dead eyes, people. His dead fucking eyes.

  • bookish

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/14/15964338/jared-kushner-security-clearance-explained

    The president has a lot of power over security clearances, including the authority to pass executive orders on security clearance policy and to establish the standards related to access of classified information. For example, in 2016 President Obama passed an executive order that amended the structure and processes for issuing security clearances.

    What’s more, the president can decide unilaterally to declassify any classified information he wants if he feels it’s warranted.

    So if Trump decided that he wanted Kushner to continue receiving classified information, even if Kushner’s clearance was revoked, he could find a way to make that happen.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      But wouldn’t any declassified material be subject to foia requests? Not that anyone would think of that…

      • bookish

        I think so, but I’m no authority.

  • Zyxomma

    Thanks, $5F. If it weren’t so scary and horrific, this might be fun.

  • bookish

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/07/15/trump-campaign-paid-firm-of-lawyer-representing-trump-jr-before-emails-were-made-public/?utm_term=.389354735b73

    President Trump’s campaign committee made a payment to the law firm of an
    attorney representing Donald Trump Jr. last month, nearly two weeks before it was announced that the same attorney would be representing the president’s son in Russia-related probes, according to a new campaign finance report filed Saturday.

    The committee reported in the filing to the Federal Election Commission that it paid $50,000 to the law firm of attorney Alan Futerfas on June 27. That payment was made 13 days before it was publicly revealed that Futerfas would represent Trump’s eldest son in the Russia investigations.

    The filing also revealed that the campaign committee paid the Trump Organization — the company being run by Trump Jr. and his brother, Eric — more than $89,000 on June 30 for “legal consulting.”

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Any word on how much of the legal bill is being paid for by a “children’s cancer charity?”

  • bookish

    I saw some Twitter threads arguing pro and con that the taxpayers are footing the bill for Ty Cobb, the attorney to represent the President. I never did see an argument that settled the matter. I’d be interested in an accurate answer and sources to back it up.

    • Old town Urbandale

      Ty Cobb, the dirtiest baseball player ever? Finally, the President is getting some effective counsel.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        I kept seeing passing references and was wondering what the hell Ty Cobb, the baseball player, had to do with anything

    • Lori

      Cobb is Trump’s lawyer, not White House council, correct? If so, Trump is paying him. Or more precisely no one is paying him because Donnie doesn’t pay his bills.

      The government doesn’t pay to defend the president if he gets into legal trouble not directly related to the execution of his duties as POTUS. Clinton’s legal bill for the impeachment and related legal actions was enormous.

      ETA: Per the post downthread is seems that Trump’s campaign is paying at least some of the family’s legal bills. I’m not convinced that’s legal, but it’s not like the Trumps give a crap about that.

      • Jukesgrrl

        If someone could convey that story the right way it might put off a lot of Trump’s under-$100 donors. Surely they can’t be happy that’s what their money is being spent on. They wanted to watch a swamp get drained, not rescue Donny Jr. from the slammer.

        • Lori

          Most of them are fine with Donnie spending their money to defend Jr. They’ve been told that Hillary set him up and they believe it because they want to blame everything on her. That bitch can’t be allowed to ruin a good boy’s life or destroy Trump’s presidency to prevent him from MAGA.

          These people are fine with being fleeced. If they weren’t they wouldn’t have given money to Donald in the first place.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    “Let’s just blow up the whole concept of digital” is my favorite Kushner quote. It’s classic clueless tech bro speak.

    • vivian

      I imagine all Jared’s suggestions start with “Let’s just blow up…”
      – the whole concept of Truth
      – the whole concept of Fairness
      – the whole concept of the American Dream
      – the whole concept of a Government that works
      – the whole concept of caring for others
      etc. ad infinitum

    • therblig

      jared’s all about analog
      trumpy’s all about steam
      ivanka’s always been about slave labor

      • Jukesgrrl

        Such a lovely family with respect for tradition.

    • tehbaddr

      Yeah man, analog is where it’s at! All that warmth!

    • TundraGrifter

      So he doesn’t believe in finger banging?

      • Slamtundra

        Goddamn you I’m sitting at a bar reading this and I look like a complete psycho trying not to laugh out loud at this.

    • gallbladder

      All-righty then, paper ballots it is!

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      My favorite Trump quote comes from Ivanka – “Women are architecting their own lives.” Sure, that sounds right. I’m working my ass off for no money, and worried about my health care, so I guess that means I’m a crappy architect.

    • HarpyLibtart

      It should be legal to smack someone square in the mouth (with votes) when they say something like that…
      (Not to hurt him, just to get his attention, like “NO! Bad bro! Define ‘digital’ for me, right now. You can’t, can you? How are you supposed to reinvent something you don’t understand, you tit-waffling idiot?”)

  • vivian

    It’s reverse-Pinnochio! The little boy always had a dream of turning into a real puppet!

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      And instead of Jiminy Cricket, it’s Rob Goldstone urging him on!

  • bookish

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-paid-don-jrs-lawyer-dollar50000-two-weeks-before-email-scandal

    It was not immediately clear whether the campaign expenditure was renumeration for Futerfas’s representation of Trump’s son, on Russia-related or other matters. But the payment sticks out on a presidential campaign’s expenditure list: Futerfas’s expertise is in white collar criminal defense, not political and election law.

    The Trump campaign’s FEC filing shows significant expenditures on legal representation as it wades through scrutiny involving alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election. As part of that investigation, the FBI is examining whether the Trump campaign guided Russian disinformation efforts aimed at key voting precincts.

    The consulting firm owned by Brad Parscale, the former Trump campaign digital director at the center of that controversy, received more than $2 million in payments from the campaign in the second quarter.

  • Jenny

    Jared is the guy who floods the toilet at a party, then locks the door behind him when he leaves.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Please, let’s not insult that guy.

  • ken_kukec

    Bonnie Prince Jared’s got no bidness whatever being big macher in the White House. Only thing keeping him from getting canned is the Donald’s obstinance.

  • TundraGrifter

    He’s transparent alright. Blind drunk I can see right through him.

  • bookish

    A profile of the Russian attorney at the center of the Trump Jr. scandal. Last night Rachel noted that this attorney is close to the highest circles in Russian politics and law enforcement. So did the attorney “overstep”, or was it something else?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/natalia-veselnitskaya-trump-junior/533670/?google_editors_picks=true

    Natalia Veselnitskaya has a tendency to appear from out of nowhere and become the center of attention. Before a now-infamous meeting with Donald Trump Jr. at Trump Tower last summer—one that also involved a former Soviet counterintelligence officer and current American citizen and D.C. lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin—Veselnitskaya was a relatively unknown figure, even in Moscow. When her name did find its way into the international news, it was because of her spirited defense of some of Russia’s least defensible actions.

    “She’s like tank,” says her friend, the Russian-born film director Andrei Nekrasov. “Maybe she overstepped some bounds when she was there [in New York last June]. But she felt she could do something on behalf of Russia. That’s the kind of person she is. She could get misty-eyed talking about this stuff. She’s a patriot.”

    • BeachBum

      “She’s like tank.” I could not have come up with a better line if I had 1 hour and 1 bottle of vodka !

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        He was describing me at the gym, though.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Russian state resources went into jailing and killing Magnitsky, into the murders of dozens of people who threatened the criminals behind the theft, and into trying to get the Magnitsky Act repealed.
      Are we really supposed to believe that that massive effort has now gone private?

  • TundraGrifter

    I continue to believe that Mr. Trump’s remarkably stupid cover-up is to protect his daughter’s spouse.

    • Lori

      I’m pretty sure Trump’s remarkably stupid cover-up is to protect Trump. There is zero indication that he cares enough about anyone else to bother. To the extent that the story protects Jared it’s because Trump can be gotten through him and/or because he knows where the bodies are buried and Trump fears the boy can’t hang tough and will roll when the heat gets serious.

      • BeachBum

        If we look back over the last 60-70 years, almost all of the worst of the worst have rolled. Long prison sentences have a way of doing that.

        • Lori

          It’s tough to keep everyone in line without the kind of organization you find in the mob and actual gangs. Getting people to do time rather than give you up requires a bunch of things like tight in-group bonds, a definition of personal honor that forbids turning on your family, the promise of care for loved ones on the outside while the prisoner is inside, and the near-certainty of death for rolling . The Trump gang lacks all of those things. People are going to starting talking as soon as they figure out there’s no way to contain the damage.

          The Trumps are like a modern day, stupid version of the Borgias, so my main question about how this will play out. Will the younger tRumps turn on each other and daddy while there’s still time or will their vast privilege and inexperience with real responsibility and consequences lead them to assume they can lawyer there way out of this until it’s too late and all the deals have already been handed out to people with a bit more realistic view of how the game is played by DC rules?

          • bookish

            The Trump-Kushners have ignorance, recklessness, and pugnacity in abundance. They’ve already wounded themselves by setting in motion the appointment of Robert Mueller. Manafort is a different animal altogether, He’s prospered and survived in the bigs a long time. He will sacrifice all of them if necessary. If I were Mueller, I’d be looking for a way to confiscate the principal suspects’ passports and potentially freeze their assets.

          • Lori

            Having POTUS try to flee the country for exile in a friendly foreign nation would be an new experience for us. Trump seems determined to act like the leader of a banana republic, so I guess it would be fitting.

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            What nations are friendly to Il Douche? Keeping in mind that he’ll be useless to Putin.

          • Lori

            I’m not sure, but I’m guessing if we did a Venn diagram where one circle is countries run by strongman leaders and the other is countries that really hate the US, the overlap would constitute the list of possible Trump destinations. I can’t imagine that any place would take him for any reason other than twisting the US’s nose and dictators are the ones who are free to act on that kind of spite.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Maybe he could bunk bed it with Julian Assange in the Ecuadoran Embassy.

          • Jukesgrrl

            Papa Doc and Baby Doc.

          • bookish

            I’ll pack his bags, if we get to keep his money. That would break him.

          • Lori

            Among many others.

            Bright side—maybe this can be a bonding experience with our neighbors to the south.

          • fun!

          • Jukesgrrl

            I’ve been thinking that way, too. What Manafort got away with in Ukraine seems pretty astounding but given how many years he’d been working for dictators and evil regimes before he ever did business there, he knew what he was getting into. You probably know that his firm was hauling in about a million dollars a year from people like Marcos and Seco of Zaire. Other lucrative clients were in Nigeria, Kenya, Somalia, etc. Dealing with people like that FOR DECADES and remaining in business, would require a lobbyist to be very slick and utterly, completely devoid of moral principles — not to mention respect for one’s own country. Democracy be damned. Surely Mueller has pulled Manafort’s passport, if not frozen all his bank accounts. Honestly, I think the rest of these people are small fry compared to Manafort. Flynn was probably a Manafort Wannabe.

          • i’ve been wondering this since last year.

    • therblig

      he probably owes the kushners money as well as the russians. and the chinese. and anyone else stupid enough to lend it to him.

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      Mr. Trump is only interested in one thing, and that is himself. He is probably betraying people right and left, probably forced his pathetic weak son to spill the beans, probably is even the one doing a lot of the leaking. He would throw ANYbody, especially his kids and their spouses, under any bus he could possibly see. There’s also a theory that it is PUTIN doing this, to bully Trump into lifting the sanctions, which are costing Putin billions.

    • Wookie Monster

      You’d think he’d have a better shot at banging Ivanka with Jared out of the picture.

  • bookish

    A profile of Rob Goldstone, the publicist who contacted Trump Jr. about Russian-supplied damaging info on Clinton.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/who-is-rob-goldstone-whose-email-to-trump-jr-on-russia-caused-a-sensation/2017/07/15/8471f520-68c0-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.5cd37af6b055

    On May 30, 2016, Goldstone posted on Facebook that he was at Crocus City Hall, a Moscow entertainment venue that is owned by the Agalarov family. Agalarov’s Instagram feed suggests he was in the same area that day.

    Four days later, Goldstone sent the email to Trump Jr. alerting him to “very high level” information that “is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

    “Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting,” Goldstone wrote. “The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this
    morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”

  • bookish

    A filk song for Donnie.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/stasi-don-jr-drama-dirtier-link-russia-dossier-article-1.3329462

    While “Hamilton” is about the brilliance of our founding fathers, “Donaldton” could be a rap about the idiocy of our current loser fathers — the crooks and creeps who are running our country right into the tank.

    Take Miranda’s brilliant song, “The Room Where it Happened.” With one or two word changes, he could sum up the dumb, if not traitorous, Donny Jr.’s attempt at holding a secret meeting with agents of a foreign, hostile country in song.

    How about:

    The room where it happened

    No one really knows how the game is played

    The art of the trade

    How the Kolbasa gets made

    We just assume that it happens

    But this time EVERYONE was in

    The room where it happened.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    Jared is A idiot.

    • C4TWOMAN

      The bit about “a guy who has never thrown a punch” rings true. Sheltered privileged people delude themselves into over estimating their position. Anyone else has learned to pick their battles. Bannon is evil, but he’s not an idiot. At least not in the same way.

      • Mormos

        Bannon is not an idiot, he is far worse – a zealot. true believers are the scariest of all.

  • middleclassman1

    Either Maniford flipped or Kush was afraid he was going to flip so he had to amend his contact info to include that meeting

  • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

    When will this reach critical mass? Is it dawning on the MAGA administration how fucking far in over their heads they are? In their selfishness and arrogance they believed they could get away with the same grifting in government as they did in the business world. Fucking idiots!

    • natoslug

      I doubt they realize, or at least that Trump realizes, that things are going that poorly for them. It’s not that they’re incompetent and corrupt and should all spend the rest of their miserable lives in lovely Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (maybe 150 yards offshore?), it’s just that everybody is out to get them.

      • Mormos

        and that Trump is surrounded by handlers who choice feed him good news so he doesn’t throw a tantrum.

  • bookish

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-paid-trump-jr-lawyers-firm-11-days-before-russia-story-broke/

    President Trump’s reelection campaign paid the law firm representing Donald Trump Jr. 11 days before the New York Times reported the eldest Trump son arranged a June 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer with connections to the Kremlin, according to a new Federal Election Commission (FEC) filing.

    Records filed Saturday show Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., paid the the Law Offices of Alan S. Futerfas $50,000 for “legal consulting” on June 27. On July 8, the Times reported that Trump Jr. arranged the meeting.

    The timing of the payment raises additional questions about who in Trump universe was aware of Trump Jr.’s interactions with the Russians, and when they learned of the meeting.

  • bookish

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/15/trump-campaign-paid-jr-attorney-240592

    So long as Trump is only paying expenses incurred from the parts of the investigation related to his campaign, it’s legal for the president to use his campaign donations to pay legal expenses or the legal expenses for Trump Jr., said Larry Noble, senior director at the Campaign Legal Center.

    “They’re obviously increasing the number of lawyers they have working for them,” Noble said. “And [Trump] seems to be, to a certain extent, churning through lawyers – so this could get expensive.”

    • Wookie Monster

      That is the only his lawyers will get paid.

    • Petunia Cat

      “Churning through lawyers”. 😂😂😂 That should become the generic journalism way to describe the Trump legal counsel process.

      Trump churning through lawyers as Kushner continues to update his security form, in perpetuity.

      • Invisible Bunyip

        “Churning Through Lawyers” – That’s my new grunge band name.

      • HooverVilles

        PS:
        Avatar – Like
        Screen name – Like
        >^o.o^<

        • Petunia Cat

          Thanks! I love your the kitten in your avatar. And I wish that it was president. 😼

    • Jukesgrrl

      Off-topic: Bookish, do you know of any updates on the hacking of Manafort’s daughter’s phone? It was astounding to me what supposedly was revealed by those text messages. Several orgs were supposedly looking into that but since March I haven’t heard any additional info. “Remember when there were all those deaths taking place [in Kiev]. A while back. About a year ago. Revolts and what not … Do you know whose strategy that was to cause that, to send those people out and get them slaughtered … He has no moral or legal compass,” Andrea Manafort allegedly wrote to her sister Jessica about their father.
      http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/politics/ukraine-manafort-hacked-texts/index.html

      • bookish

        Oh yeah, now I vaguely remember the story. Haven’t heard any information on that recently, sorry. Thanks for the reminder.

        Just read thru that CNN story again. It’s got some interesting detail, even if it’s hearsay. Hearsay can be corroborated, or not. Any little datum that we can dredge up might help others shine a light on these peoples’ actions.

        Manafort strikes me as the definition of a successful sociopath.

  • ….why is a staff member filling out his confidential and he is supposed to fill it out clearance form?

    • Jim Johnson

      Snowflake Jared doesn’t want to get his hands dirty — any more than he wants to.
      He has lickspittles to do that for him.

  • bookish

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/charlestiefer/2017/07/15/ten-worrying-questions-about-ty-cobb-as-trump-special-counsel/#465d783d5444

    From my experience advising investigations of the White House such as Iran-contra, the White House this time is really keeping us in the dark as it “lawyers up” to a new level with Ty Cobb. Here are ten worrying questions on the subject.

    Who is paying? It may be the same as the “regular” White House Counsel, namely, he is paid by the taxpayers. But he does not remotely resemble a public, official, executive actor paid by the taxpayers to neutrally operate the government. He is simply a hired outside gun given an inside office, but personally, privately, unofficially devoted to the individual Donald Trump, not the office of President.

    Does it matter how many great lawyers Trump has, if he keeps tweeting and in other ways undermining his case?

    The other question about who is paying: It may be that Trump will pay for him. But if he is Trump’s private lawyer, then why will he have the access and authority of a public, official, executive actor?

    • James

      I’m guessing he won’t get access to national security information he needs to try to defend Mr. Trump (if it comes to that) unless he also fills in an SF-86. Much of Mr. Cobb’s background in the public record indicates he would be rejected out-of-hand for a clearance.

      Mr. Trump still doesn’t get it: His real estate mob lawyers aren’t going to be able to help him – but they’ll gladly take his money. (Or his campaign’s money, as it was revealed that a law firm was paid just before Jared Kushner did his incredibly stupid E-mail dump on Twitter, as revealed by the most recent FEC filing.)

  • bookish

    A profile of the veteran Soviet agent who met with Trump Jr.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/15/world/europe/rinat-akhmetshin-donald-trump-jr-natalia-veselnitskaya.html

    Instead of simply examining old media reports, court records and other public documents to try to dig up dirt or embarrassing gossip, Russian-style “chyorny P.R.” has often focused on pilfering private information through hacking and physical intrusion into offices and filing cabinets.

    In his own investigations over the years, Mr. Akhmetshin has acquired a reputation for obtaining email records, information from spyware and other data that appeared to be drawn from Russian hackers.

    • Petunia Cat

      Just read that article. Holy crap! Akhmetshin is a spy for pay. It’s pretty simple. 😳

  • James

    Geez, if I’d lied on my Navy security clearance forms, I would be in Leavenworth making big rocks into little ones, and little rocks into sand.

    It must be nice to be the President’s son-in-law with a whole political party trying to cover for your crime. (Omitting those meetings on the SF-86 is a crime, and it says so right on top of the form.)

    I don’t ever want to hear conservatives tell me they are the “law and order” party again, or that liberals are somehow criming America haters.

  • bookish

    Mrs. Betty Bowers @BettyBowers
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    Dear @FBI gratuitous detail “Manafort on phone, not paying attention” may be protecting who he was on phone with, paying attention: his boss

  • Resistance Ftr PuckStopsHere

    A staffer “accidentally hit send” is the “Rose Mary Wood’s ‘I accidentally erased the tape'” of Stupid Watergate.

    • James

      And that’s why it Stupid Watergate. While it is conceivable one could accidentally erase a tape recording, sending an SF-86 accidentally is pretty much impossible. You have multiple warning pages and have to attach a digital signature to the form.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        You apparently actually have to have what they call a “wet” signature, i.e. you have to print it out, hand-sign it, then scan and re send. It almost cannot be “accidentally” sent. Totally Stupid Watergate.

        • HooverVilles

          You got it except for the almost part. Been there, done that.

      • From Russia with Love

        Also, it is probably some minor legal violation to give someone else your password for the online form.

      • HooverVilles

        Exactly.
        And if those forms are incomplete they will be rejected and clearance denied until any discrepancies are cleared up. At least that’s the way it works for any normal person applying for a job requiring a security clearance.
        Sigh!

  • bookish

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-paid-retainer-to-trump-jrs-lawyer-eleven-days-before-bombshell-nyt-story_us_596a9a68e4b017418627f6eb

    According to the disclosure forms, Trump’s presidential campaign made a $50,000 payment to Futerfas’ law firm on June 27, 2017. The first story about Trump Jr.’s meeting with lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya went up on the New York Times website on July 8, 2017, 11 days after the payment was made. On July 12, in an exchange with reporters on Air Force One en route to Paris, Trump said, “I only heard about it [Trump Jr’s meeting with the Russian lawyer] two or three days ago.”

    A report from Yahoo News this week revealed that Trump’s lawyers knew about the email chain between Trump Jr. and music publicist Rob Goldstone for weeks. According to the Yahoo News report, Trump’s lead attorney, Marc Kasowitz and Alan Garten, general counsel of the Trump organization, found out about the now infamous email exchange the third week of June. The payment from Trump’s committee was made the fourth week of June.

    Trump is known to be careful with spending, monitoring expenses closely and grousing when too much money is spent. The fact that a $50,000 payment, to a criminal defense attorney that represents his son on a matter related to the Russia investigation, could be made by a campaign committee he controls without his knowledge would certainly be surprising according to two sources familiar with Trump’s oversight of campaign expenses.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      At least he was smart enough to avoid getting stiffed by Donnie Two Scoops – he got paid out of campaign funds. As one does when one is a white-collar criminal lawyer.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Bookish, thanks for all the links and your comments.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    From the NYT:

    The Senate will delay votes on a bill to dismantle the Affordable Care Act, because Senator John McCain would be absent, recovering from surgery that he had on Friday to remove a blood clot.

    Ahh, the irony: waiting on surgery, paid for by Congresscretins’ platinum-plated health care plan, so they can fuck over tens of millions of Americans by depriving them of health insurance.

    • fawkedifiknow

      Sounds like elective surgery that the always courageous Senator McClain scheduled conveniently to avoid a vote on this iteration of Trumpdon’tgiveafuck health care bill.

      • ahughes798

        Removing blood clots are never elective surgeries, I would assume. I mean, blood clots kill people all the time.

    • HooverVilles

      If only they actually understood irony. If only.

      • Bebecca

        Or hypocrisy. They don’t feel one iota of shame over being hypocrites.

        • Rickyphoo

          The vast majority of the GOP have no concept of what the word “hypocrisy” even means. Also, too, the word “shame”.

    • you know technically, they do have the ACA.

    • also, this is beyond gross. they are literally stringing out people’s lives.

      so one of their own could have surgery. insured surgery.

  • bookish

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jr-russia-bill-browder-testify-senate-links-natalia-veselnitskaya-steele-dossier-a7840061.html

    A British businessman says he will next week testify on Capitol Hill that researchers who helped produce the infamous Steele dossier, previously worked at the direction of the Russian lawyer who met Donald Trump Jr, and failed to declare they were doing so.

    Fusion GPS was in the headlines earlier this year when it emerged its investigators, and a former British spy, Christopher Steele, had worked to produce a dossier of salacious, unverified claims about Donald Trump that suggested he had been “compromised” by Russian intelligence officials on a visit to Moscow in 2013. Mr Trump called the dossier “fake news”.

    Bill Browder, the CEO and founder of Hermitage Capital Management, says he will testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee that the company, which was founded by former journalists, previously worked under the direction of Natalia Veselnitskaya as part of a Russian-led lobbying effort in the US.

  • bookish

    Background on how Russian lawyer came to be in US.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-the-obama-doj-let-russian-lawyer-natalia-veselnitskaya-into-the-u-s/

    A spokesman for Lynch, who served as attorney general under President Obama, told CBS News Lynch “does not have any personal knowledge of Ms. Veselnitskaya’s travel.” The spokesman noted “the State Department issues visas, and the Department of Homeland Security oversees entry to the United States at airports.”

    Mr. Trump appeared to be referencing reports about Veselnitskaya’s efforts to enter the U.S. to represent a Russian client in a New York lawsuit in late 2015. Denied a visa, a frustrated Veselnitskaya was eventually able to secure permission from the Justice Department to enter the country outside the normal visa process under a designation known as “immigration parole,” court records show.

  • bookish

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2017/07/15/joys-trump-lawyer/

    The lawyers, people familiar with the internal discussions say, are reminding White House aides and the president that the stakes are higher now that a special counsel and Congress are scrutinizing their every move, that small indiscretions could turn into bigger issues, and that they have to follow rules they don’t like…

  • bookish

    Just a little scorecard of who was at the Trump Jr. meeting.

    The eighth person has still not been identified.

    I keep seeing reports that the Russian lawyer has no English. Has this been verified? Perhaps the translator was there to obfuscate, not clarify. I assume Manafort speaks Russian but I don’t know that.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342200-meet-the-people-in-the-room-during-trump-jrs-russia-meeting

    • From Russia with Love

      I have not heard Natalia Veselnitskaya speak anything other than Russian on TV.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        And even if she speaks fluent English, she would surely pretend not to.

  • Drunken Interlocutor

    This is why you don’t let inexperienced halfwits, the depraved and grifters hold public office. Those tossers got played by the Russians who must’ve been beside themselves with glee at the ease of success.
    Jared needs a punch in the face in order to align him with the cold reality of the world we live in, followed by the rest of those treacherous buffoons. Let’s hope that some real life lessons are learned by some prison time.

    • Rickyphoo

      I’m hoping they get long prison time but at the same time, I am not holding my breath. It is after all, Washington DC.

      • obadiahorthodox

        in 3′ by 4′ cells, that way they can only crouch and have to sleep that way while the guards play “Enter the Sandman” as loud as they can.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Evidently the Not Guilty Gene skips a generation.

    • HooverVilles

      Only one generation?

  • bookish
  • From Russia with Love

    Somebody needs to teach these idiots how to lie. Clearly they have a lot to learn.

    “No, honey, I just went over to her house. Nothing happened.”
    Has this lie ever worked?

    • Wee Mousie

      Either they are straight arrow’s who have never lied before and can’t imagine how the thing is done, or else they are imbeciles caught in the Dunning-Kruger effect where their illusory superiority has produced an inability to recognize their own ineptitude.

      I’m putting all of my money on the latter case.

      • Edith Prickly

        I think lying is completely routine to all of them – but it didn’t matter before because they were all in the same grifty business and would never get called on their lies. Now that they’re public officials that strategy (if you can call it that) is blowing up in their faces. It would be funny if it wasn’t turning the US into a global laughingstock.

  • BFD

    The tax returns. Just show us the tax returns. They will cast so much light on all this dipsy doodle. Very bright light.

  • Bebecca

    So let’s say, for argument’s sake, that a poor staffer did hit send too soon. This is what happens: Holy shit I didn’t mean to send that yet and you get on the phone with a rep of the entity to figure out how you fix it. You don’t wait months until it becomes public knowledge and then blame the hired help.

  • Bebecca

    and another question. Does anyone here really think that any of these trump flunkies did ANYTHING without the knowledge of master Trump? He’s a control freak that has never made the right decision about anything. Hence the cluster %uck that is the trump administration.

    • HooverVilles

      IF those forms are incomplete they will be rejected and clearance denied until any discrepancies are cleared up. At least that’s the way it works for any normal person applying for a job requiring a security clearance.
      Sigh!
      Edit:
      Oooops!
      this was supposed to be a reply to your comment below re: submitting a security clearance request.

    • Relativicus

      It is possible one or some of them might act own in an attempt to show initiative and curry favor.

  • Rickyphoo

    Re: Jared’s SF86 – My wife is the FSO for her employer and she confirmed that the “prematurely hit “send” button” is total bullshit. She also says that the SF86 is, by law, supposed to be filled out by the person requesting clearance, not some “staffer”.

    Of course, the WH’s bullshit excuse is meant for the rubes that voted for the Dumpster and have no fucking clue how the Federal security clearance process works.

  • javadavis

    They had a tech meeting with Kushner’s cheesy company included? If I was a gov’t rep with any sort of access to software purchase I think I’d be looking for a different vendor, one who didn’t flunk all of the security clearance tests, no matter what that software is for. Also, I’d be demanding a refund for software already purchased.
    Winning a refund, affecting their money, that seems like the only way to impact their, for lack of a better word, consciences.

  • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

    “Everybody is forgetting that Clinton allies did the same thing as Don Jr.”

    Hey assface! You just admitted that what knew what you did was wrong !

    • H0mer0

      I will withhold judgement on that appellation until documentation of his heretofore mentioned part is available to scrutinize and compare to his visage, but does he also talk about himself in third person?

  • Johnny Appleseed

    Re: 1st picture. I say teach the animals to aim n shoot them send the Trumpstupid to the jungle.

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  • shocktreatment

    Just something to bear in mind, Syphilitic Donito’s father, while he was capable, financed him directly, guaranteed his loans, guaranteed ‘re-financing’, and ponied up sub rosa bail outs. When Fred Trump’s fate was sealed, an ever expanding legion of fixers, lawyers, and hired guns took over the task of keeping Fat Boy Orange out of the jug. He has no idea, none, that he is the beneficiary of such horrifyingly elaborate efforts, one of the reasons that he is so baffled by the public humiliation he’s enduring now.

    Don-Don and The Dumb One? Koosh-Koosh? These shitbirds are in the same boat. Never faced a consequence. Never put food on their own tables or shoes on their own feet. Never put off a ‘want’ to obtain a ‘need’.
    They’ve spent their lives surrounded by family retainers whose only role is to downfuck their fuckups

    They’re the only ones who’re going to be surprised when the hammer drops

  • whitroth

    Um, beg pardon, here, small detail… what the *fuck* does he mean by “his staff hit send too soon”? If HE is the one going for a security clearance, he may ask his staff to remind him, or feed him notes, but HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO FILL IT OUT AND SIGN IT.

    ObDisclosure: I have a POT (Position of trust) clearance (I think, they never tell you). This, presumably, means don’t get top secrets, or middle secrets, probably only bargain basement secrets, or maybe blue light special secrets….

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