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Morning Wonketariat! Here’s some of the things we may be talking about today.

While you were sleeping, Trump criticized North Korea, CNN, and US intel agencies in a press conference with Polish President Andrzej Duda, and remarkably had mean things to say about Russia in Ukraine. Early this morning, Trump blathered behind a podium in front of an astroturf crowd some words about Poland in a long, stupid speech.

Poland has an eerily similar Putin populism problem,and even though Poland has a rather favorable view of the U.S., (not necessarily Trump) it’s busing in people from the country so that Trump doesn’t get his feelings hurt. [MANDATORY Morning Maddow!]

Trump is prepping for his meeting with Putin by reading memos…that are 140 characters in length. This assumes that he actually reads (let alone retains) anything other than catch phrases and talking points of a single made-up word.

Trump’s aides are legit worried about Trump being in a room alone with Putin because they’re pretty confident Putin would start riding him around bareback.

Trump’s White House is all in for CruzCare, but the rest of the GOP is breathing deep, panicky breaths.

The Pentagon will no longer announce the deaths of US soldiers until 24 hours after the families have been notified seeing as how dead soldiers might make people feel icky about the war we forget we are STILL fighting.

GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE! A federal appeals court has ruled undocumented immigrant children detained by immigration authorities are legally entitled to court hearings to determine whether or not they should be held captive. OF COURSE it was the LIBERAL Ninth Circuit.

Kris Kobach doesn’t want you to think he’s doing anything evil with all that voter data, so he’s defending himself by calling everything “fake news” as just about every state has told him to fuck right off.

Rep. Steve Scalise is back in the hospital this morning and in serious condition over fears of a possible infection, and we honestly hope he gets better.

Tomorrow’s June jobs report is expected to be pretty shitty, which would deal a serious blow to Trump’s ego and all that “winning” we’re supposed to be doing.

Nooses keep cropping up around in random spots around the country, and that’s deeply concerning for everyone who doesn’t dress up in dirty bed sheets covered in cum stains to burn crosses and preach hate.

Democrats are eye-fucking military veterans with the hopes of taking the House because the optics are a lot better than a career politician walking the lines for a grip-and-grin.

David Petraeus has no material words about Donald Trump’s fitness to serve. Stop asking.

Texas is making tons of Ameros selling oil to China. Thanks, Obama!

A US Citizen is suing after being detained in Miami-Dade County over Trump’s Muslim Mexican travel restrictions on brown undocumented Not American peoples.

The Chairman of the Multonomah County, Oregon (the Portland area) Republican Party thinks it’s a swell idea to use militia men like the Three Percenters and Oath Keepers as security in “enemy territory.” I mean, it worked for the Rolling Stones at Altamont, right?

GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE! The Oregon Republican party wants to spend $36 million on healthcare for undocumented children despite some legislators knowing their constituents will be fucking pissed at their town halls.

Yeah, a lot of people got shot in Chicago over the Fourth of July, just like last year, and the year before that, over petty bullshit. Good thing Trump sent in the Feds.

REXXON awoke from his slumber and roared that the US is willing to shoot the shit about No-Fly Zones with Russia in Syria.

Now that Trump is Putin’s new girlfriend, China is slipping into bed with all the Europeans the US dumped, but it remains to be seen if Europe will like its new lover, or if it’s just kind of a rebound fling.

Sergey Kislyak thinks working with Donald Trump is just so hard and all this Trump-Russia and sanction stuff is giving him a headache. :(

All hell is breaking loose in Venezuela right now as pro-administration motorcycle gangs roam the streets beating protesters and the Congress.

North Korea hasn’t just been building nukes and ICBMs, it’s been busy building a sock factory and a lube factory. I don’t know why they need a sock and a lube factory, but I have a few ideas.

UN Ambassador Nikki Haley gave a sad, miserable speech condemning North Korea for complete fucking up her vacation plans. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN AT A BARBEQUE!

Trump’s kids renewed the rights for TrumpTowerMoscow.com and TrumpRussia.com and there’s nothing nefarious about that all. Nope. Nothing. Don’t bother looking into it.

There’s a new pro-Trump teevee network out there, and it’s full of hacks and asshats with bad hair and terrible screen presence.

Hobby Lobby was illegally importing thousands of religious antiques from Iraq, and now they’re in millions of Ameros worth of trouble.

The “alt-right” frog mob is doxxing CNN journalists on 8Chan, which is where people too xEdgeXcore for 4Chan go after they get banned for things like posting kiddie porn or doxxing.

Volvo will start making all their cars electric in 2019 in an effort to continue their tradition of safe, reliable family vehicles that are about as exciting as a Wilford Brimley narrating a laxative induced bowel movement.

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  • dslindc
    • ariel_gee_398

      “Just waking up” is probably a fair description of Joe. Or at least faux-woke for the ratings.

    • Colleendsoto

      Managing director of Google says we are paying $97 per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family^hu257:
      On tuesday I got a great new Toyota Prius Prime from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it,.Then see this
      ~xs267:
      ➽➽
      ➽➽;➽➽ http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash547GroupMaps/GetPay$97/Hour ★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★:::::~xs267..,.

      • jesterpunk

        Only a Prius? Sorry your friend promised a Range Rover.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          The night shift promise the Range Rover. Colleendsoto must be the day shift.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            So, the McLaren’s off the table?

          • Ghenghis McCann

            Yeah, I was playing with my toy cars and smashed the Range Rover in to it. It flew of the table, but I think it might have landed under the sofa.

      • dslindc

        The failing Colleendsoto would say that. SAD!

      • Msgr_MΩment

        Did you declare this income on your tax returns? Where are your tax returns? What are you hiding, Collendsoto, IF that’s even your name.

      • crisptickle

        Colleen, what happened to your roommate Lori?

      • formerChild

        The important question is how does Insurance Panda feel about this?

    • From Russia with Love

      “And I only gave Donald a handjob, I promise!”

    • Mike Steele

      Lady MS: Just fuckin’ quit it. Anyone who still wastes a moment of his/her life watching ‘Morning Joe’ missed the point a decade ago. You can learn more and get directions to engaged resistance by tuning into C-SPAN, finding out what the great unwashed are up to, and responding accordingly.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      So, a day ending in “Y”?

  • Nounverb911
    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      Yes please!

  • Nounverb911
    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      Sums up my morning routine!

  • Nounverb911
    • Villago Delenda Est

      Needs picture of shitgibbon to illustrate.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Use in a sentence:

      My mom was a quadroon, but daddy’s full poltroon.

    • Courser_Resistance

      I get the feeling Merriam-Webster, my childhood friend, is trolling Der Trumpsterfire

  • ManchuCandidate

    http://media.riffsy.com/images/e339c681d45dee80e0bc58d4cc2960eb/tenor.gif

    The Red Panda is more surprised than I am that the Hobby Lobby motherfucker is a thief of other people’s cultural artifacts.

    • Mpeg

      “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, ass, or property. Oh, but your far-off distant lands whose artifacts you assign misbegotten cult value to, yeah those are open turf.” — The Book of Eh, Everything’s Negotiable in the End

      • From Russia with Love

        “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, ass, or property.*”

        *Does not apply to Republicans or Christians.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Thou shalt not prevent thy seed from entering thy woman’s womb, but stealing shit is perfectly OK!

    • Courser_Resistance

      One Panda freaks out, his snacking buddy is like, “Dude! Chill! It’s just the Boot Guy!”

  • Crystalclear12

    Trump is like taking care of a baby.
    Did he shit on himself last night?
    Yes. Yes, he did.

  • DerpyGurdyMan
  • cheetojeebus

    It coulda been a bear that shat in the woods, maybe, no one really knows, coulda been a beaver?

  • OneYieldRegular

    If China dumps us, does that mean all the crap we buy will now be stamped “Made in Texas”?

    • BadKitty904

      If Putin has his way, his puppet state – the USA – will soon be at war with China.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        I don’t see the problem. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

        • BadKitty904

          I see a problem with billions of American dollars and thousands of American lives wasted while America and China weaken each other due to Putin’s manipulations…

      • Komsumverweigerer Ron

        I’m guessing the Chinese are aware of this, unlike Donnie Two Scoops.

        • BadKitty904

          I hope. Unless they decide to cooperate with Russia in reducing America to a servant-state…

          • Komsumverweigerer Ron

            Perhaps, though I’m pretty sure the Chinese hate the Russians even more now than they did back in the day.

          • BadKitty904

            I’m sure they do. However, “politics makes strange bedfellows” and I sure if the Chinese saw it as being to their advantage…

  • Nounverb911
    • BadKitty904

      AKA, “The Den of Thieves”…

      • From Russia with Love

        AAKA “Knobby Lobby.”

    • Bill D. Burger

      They were warned in advance and still took the stolen treasures.

      You might say they ABORTED the effort. _____ ~rimshot~

      https://twitter.com/michaelhayes/status/882689487301685249

      • PubOption

        It seems that they were warned, yet they persisted.

    • Amy!

      “New! Now with bonus financial support for Radical Islamic Terrorism!”

    • Querolous

      It’s the nature of the business
      It’s the smuggler’s blues

  • From Russia with Love

    “UN Ambassador Nikki Haley gave a sad, miserable speech condemning North Korea for complete fucking up her vacation plans. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN AT A BARBEQUE!”

    Dear Nikki,

    Wait until I figure out how to weaponize a nuclear bomb, and the barbecue will come to you!

    Your pal,

    Kim Jong-un (but you can just call me Marshal of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea since your boss seems to have usurped Dear Leader)

  • Nounverb911
  • BadKitty904
  • MynameisBlarney
  • Nounverb911
    • BadKitty904

      Well, that would explain the current Republican Party…

    • Bill D. Burger

      I almost did a spit take with my coffee.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/133tEQgc0V3Dc4/giphy.gif

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I must be even stupider than usual this morning. Can someone explain what Ken is alluding to here?

      EDIT: never mind, I need to read my Wonkagenda more carefully.

      • Antonin Dvorak

        Hobby Lobby was caught smuggling Iraqi antiquities.

        • From Russia with Love

          Did they get that one with the big snake for a dick?

      • Jenny

        Hobby Lobby done brought more cursed devils entrapped in ancient artifacts to America, and now we will need priests to save us!!!! Just like the movie and by movie, he means the Exorcist prequel. Not that anyone but me and evidently Ken Layne watched that.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Who is this Ken Layne who Tweets such nonsense?

  • jesterpunk

    The United States is willing to work with Russia to establish no-fly zones and other measures to stabilize Syria, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Wednesday.

    Remember when Trump and his supporters said we shouldnt vote for Hillary because a no fly zone is bad? Now they want a no fly zone.

  • anon_the_great

    So the Christians of Hobby Lobby are paying looters for chunks of Middle East culture. Could one do anything more to convince Arabs Christian America is out to destroy them? Yes. Lord Dampnut

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Fuck David Petraeus. He basically sucked up to the Trump administration then bailed out when he got a direct question. Who gives a fuck what a disgraced criminal has to say?

    • From Russia with Love

      People like Petraeus usually become criminals for either drugs (unlikely in his case), money or pussy.

      He was just interested in Trump so he could go two out of three.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Betrayus was a pretty good descriptor for him.

  • Jenny

    They boyfriend keeps trying to buy Volvo, “for me.” I don’t want a chinese car, dammit! I am American and will drive my korean american made car until it dies. Seriously, I wish it would die. I want a subaru.

  • BigCSouthside

    If you have not listened to Trump’s speech this morning, please do so. It is potentially the most flagrantly white supremacist speech I’ve ever heard from an American politician in my lifetime.

    Replace “the west” with “Deutschland”, translate it to German, make it a bit more shouty, and film it in black and white.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Was the speech at a beer hall?

    • cmd resistor

      I saw about half of it, and agree totally. Funny none of the TV pundits noticed!

      • BigCSouthside

        It was barely hiding it. Never named “the enemy” but the implication was clear “the west” (white Christian Europe and North America) is a SUPERIOR “culture” (race) to everyone else, and the implied “enemies” are uncultured immoral barbarians. It was shocking in its brazenness.

        • cmd resistor

          Which lends support to the reports that Stephen Miller wrote most of it.

          • BigCSouthside

            It’s definitely him. Not overt enough to be Gorka, and not anti establishment enough to be Bannon. Just good old fashioned straight up white supremacy

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Stephen Miller, Nazi pig, is Donald’s speechwriter.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Indy to the fucking Hobby Lobby looters, grave robbers and lying thieves.

    http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/museum_indiana_jones.gif

    We have to has ourselves….

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEBA1sIXcAAFVq-.jpg

  • Nounverb911
  • BadKitty904

    Thanks, Mr. Darwin!

    Per the UK’s Popbitch:

    The Trump effect? US steakhouse chain Longhorn say only 2.5% people ordered their steak rare in the last year, while 12% ordered it well done.

    • BigCSouthside

      The guy is destroying steaks and suits? Goddammit man

      • BadKitty904

        Given how bad well-done steaks are for you, health-wise, he’s unwittingly doing his bit to whittle down the GOP base.

    • Oblios_Cap

      I cooked mine medium rare on Tuesday.

      • BadKitty904

        Like a REAL American.

    • MrTusks

      Considering Longhorn’s clientele is only one step above Outback’s I wouldn’t be too concerned. Any respectable place would have you arrested for ordering well done.

    • bupkus231

      Maybe that’s because they don’t trust you to keep your steaks bacteria-free ???

      • BadKitty904

        Well, once the GOP has repealed all US food-safety laws…

  • MynameisBlarney

    I went to Meme Center this morning to look for some funny anti-turmp/republican memes and I was dismayed to see that it had been overrun by the alt-right.

    • eyelashviper

      More teens from the Balkans piling up rubles.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Villago Delenda Est

      The more the vile creature suffers, the more happy I am.

    • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

      And that pretty much sums up the competency of the Marmalade Menace’s administration.

    • BadKitty904

      Maybe a youth hostel?

    • Oblios_Cap

      They really are inept. That might be the only thing that saves the country.

    • eyelashviper

      More evidence of his “best people” being on it. Maybe they should rent some old VW camper thingies and put up tents.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    I dunno – a laxative-induced bowel movement doesn’t sound unexciting to me. It sounds…explosive!

    • Oblios_Cap

      Colonoscopies all around! Might as well, while you’re all cleaned out.

    • BadKitty904

      Well, it’s a fundamental issue, really…

    • Oblios_Cap

      Is this a discussion of how Trump is preparing for his ass-fucking by Putin?

  • Nounverb911
    • BadKitty904

      She’s an experienced stateswoman. He’s a sociopath.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    So, Hobby Lobby finances Daesh.

    Move along, people! Nothing to see here!

    • Oblios_Cap

      What good, Christian folks!

    • BadKitty904

      The criminal element sticks together, ya know…

  • Nounverb911
  • Gee, Your Hair Smells Horrific

    Other things people don’t know for sure:
    –How tides go in and out
    –Who leaves the toilet seat up
    –Global warming???
    –If teen boys watch porn on the puter
    –How are we going to survive four years of doofus Don
    THAT LAST ONE IS THE REAL HEAD SCRATCHER

  • Ghenghis McCann

    Volvo will start making all their cars electric in 2019 in an effort to continue their tradition of safe, reliable family vehicles

    Safe? A biker friend once told me that they were the most dangerous cars on the road. He claimed that their owners drove like idiots because they thought that being in a Volvo meant that they would come out best in any collision they were involved in.

    • Antonin Dvorak

      A bad driver doesn’t mean that the cars themselves don’t have decent safety features; just that they are abusing the privilege.

      • From Russia with Love

        They do last if you don’t headbutt a truck or an oak tree. My wife’s cousin has one that’s two years shy of 30.

        • OutOfOrbit

          It was made before VW bought Volvo.

    • From Russia with Love

      In these parts we call them VDMFs.

      Volvo-Driving Mother Fuckers.

    • Msgr_MΩment

      That’s what kills me about the smug mofos who drive what I call urban assault vehicles (or SUV for its acronym in yuppie). Very, very safe for you and your ‘baby on board’, but fuck the rest of the world.

      Sorry, I’ll finish my coffee now.

      • Mike Steele

        With ya, Msgr…not to mention the fact that the SUV drivers are perpetually texting, putting the rest of our lives at risk.

  • Oblios_Cap

    I’m thinking 140 characters might be about 130 more than L’il Donnie can comprehend.

    • bupkus231

      You’re being generous.

  • x111e7thst

    Do I detect a lack of support for your local Hell’s Angels?

  • Mike Steele

    As he debases us, yet again, in Poland, evoking ‘fake news’, ‘blame Obama’, etc. Of course, that might play well in a nation that has also embraced nationalistic populism, and is willing to bus in a ‘fan base’ from the hinterlands to fluff the Orange Shitgibbon. Wait till he gets to G20 and Teutonic Wonder Woman Angela chews him a new asshole. Also, too, Third Fatty is going to make Trump prove that SSDI has some juice, and can shoot down his ever-more-powerful missiles…sadly, it appears that it can’t. Just go ahead, Donald, and keep tweet-provoking your doppelganger manchild. What could possibly go wrong? BTW, emailed ‘trix in the middle of the night as (perhaps noted downthread?) 5.8 earthquake rattled area near Wonkette Central. Assume you’re realigning wall art, even as we speak, Rebecca…

    • Msgr_MΩment

      … and Teutonic Wonder Woman Angela chews him a new asshole.

      Tripe libel!!

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Well, I’m off to Hobby Lobby. I need some fake flowers, glitter, stuff to make a pop-top necklace, and some looted clay cuneiform tablets.

    • Ωbjectifier

      Ima get me an Ark of the Covenant.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Big 4th of July sale! They’re only $6.66 until Friday!

    • Bub, the truculent Zombie

      Do they have a Holy Grail? I seek the Grail! The last place I shopped was staffed with obnoxious French assholes.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I think they have them in the Looted Knights Templar Artifacts aisle.

        • From Russia with Love

          “It’s verri niiice!”

      • The Wanderer

        Look for the grail-shaped beacon at Castle Anthrax!

        • Ωbjectifier

          Sounds perilous.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            I want to go there and face the peril.

          • The Wanderer

            But there are spankings! And after the spankings, the oral sex!

            Hang on, I’ll go with you.

          • Bet you’re gay.

        • Bub, the truculent Zombie

          Oh, I’m definitely checking out Castle Anthrax! I hear they have very, ah, “helpful” staff!

    • Me not sure

      Say hello to that nice Mr. Belloq in the frame shop for me.

    • folderol

      If you smash up ancient cuneiform tablets, the gravel will make great bedding for this year’s Christmas manger scene!

  • Vincent Ricola

    If I ever win the lottery, I’m spending it all on a franchise of craft stores. I will open them up right next to existing Hobby Lobbys. I will forego profits in favor of undercutting every one of their items, I will also sell birth control pills and condoms and porn, and include a multi-cultural food court and unisex bathrooms. Fuck them. The end.

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      I would be proud to be your first and best customer.

      • Oblios_Cap

        I would take up some sort of hobby that involves shopping in your hobby shop.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          Isn’t “Shopping” already a hobby?

          • Oblios_Cap

            For some. Not for me.

    • BadKitty904

      The Invisible Middle Finger of the Market…

      • Jerilynadaniels

        Managing director of Google says we are paying $97 per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family^hi224d:
        On tuesday I got a great new Lamborghini Aventador from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it ..Then don’t miss this
        ~xd224d:
        ➽➽
        ➽➽;➽➽ http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash524MarketSecret/GetPay$97/Hour ★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★:::::~xd224o….

    • Me not sure

      If there are no sugar-free Werther’s at the check out lane, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9aefa62f4cd638dec05d5922b8c96a5c59e1b1a8f1d134405091c049c41cd387.jpg I ain’t a’goin’!

    • bupkus231

      You know, if you were to do that, Hobby Lobby would quickly employ their religious principals by bringing a massive class action “restriction of trade”, anti-competitive practices suit against you, straight to the Supreme Court…

      Because that’s how those fuckers roll….

      • Vincent Ricola

        Worth it.

    • From Russia with Love

      Dildo shop!

    • calliecallie

      I support your business model and would subscribe to your newsletter.

    • SweetDeeKat

      You’ll (gasp) sell HALLOWEEN decor?

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Msgr_MΩment

      They misspelled ‘ugliest’.

  • schmannity

    Can’t Hobby Lobby avoid the Antiquities Act by sincerely held religious beliefs?

    • OutOfOrbit

      Of course. That’s why no”body” is getting charged and that $3M was just a tithe.

    • armed_bears

      Ooh! Ooooh!!! I am going to claim to have thought of that comment at some point today! Well said and well observed!1

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Oblios_Cap

      I saw the CEO on TV this AM. What a sanctimonious prick.

      • Bub, the truculent Zombie

        We see a “sanctimonious prick,” religious folks see a “fine, upstanding Christian.” We see an honourable, if flawed, woman running for president, religious folks see Satan’s handmaiden. And therein lies the problem with religious folks.

    • Tokays_don’t_blink

      You know how Hobby Slobby oh-so-faithfully closes its stores on Sunday so its peons can celebrate the Sabbath? I’ve heard through the grapevine that during War on Xmas season warehouse workers don’t even get that courtesy. Buncha self-righteous fake-pious asshats.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Nounverb911
  • The Wanderer

    The word, Donnie, is “Głupek.” It’s Polish for “Dumbass.”

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Hmmm…I’m going to have to write that down for future reference, to avoid 12 hour Twitter “time outs” for calling Donald and his vile spawn an accurate name.

    • Traitor

      LOL. You win the Polish internet today. Na zdrowie!

  • Bill D. Burger
    • The Wanderer

      It’s the Lost Prophecies of Owah-Tagus Ayyam. “And lo, shall these writings pass into the hands of complete idiots . . . “

      • Oblios_Cap

        The Book of Onan.

        • The Wanderer

          It’s a bit sticky, though.

          • Msgr_MΩment

            The tablets keep sticking together.

  • ariel_gee_398

    You know, people who commit crimes can lose their right to vote. Maybe corporations that commit crimes ought to lose their rights to engage in the political process, too?

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Why do you hate America?

      • ariel_gee_398

        Because weapons-grade stupidity is offensive to my sincerely held non-religious beliefs.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          I’ll save you a seat at the reeducation camp.

          • From Russia with Love

            “Gonna need a buncha more bibles!”

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Check out http://www.toolboxbrewing.com. Vista, CA, not far from where I’m hoping to spend a few days at the end of the month. My niece and her husband (a great home brewer) have a pal who works at Port Brewing in Carlsbad….I guess everyone is saying Toolbox is the real deal…all barrel aged. I’ve also heard prices are like 7 or 8 bucks for a 5oz. taster, which probably puts it out of my range.

          • ariel_gee_398

            I think had their Cucumberliner a while back, actually, though I don’t remember much about it other than “was good.”

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Cucumber seems to be the new thing with beer. I like cucumbers, but it just doesn’t sound like a good flavor in beer to me, but I could be wrong. Certain things…pineapple, chile, meat loaf…I just prefer not to have them in my beer.

          • ariel_gee_398

            Well, you can keep the meatloaf but I’ll take the others in beer. Of course, I liked a beer that tasted like pastrami, so maybe I’m just an outlier in this.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Pastrami? Really? Do share. I’m not a big pineapple fan to begin with. And as I think I told you, I was scarred for life by the first chile beer I ever had. I had the devil’s own day yesterday, so I stopped on the way home and bought a 12 oz. bottle of the Ommegang pale sour to soothe my snowflake butthurt. It was really good…but it would’ve taken the whole 4-pack to ameliorate the snowflake butthurt.

          • ariel_gee_398

            Pastrami pils, of all things. I don’t even like pilsners. It was better than it had any right to be. http://www.metro.us/new-york/pastrami-pilsner-is-like-drinking-the-jewish-deli-favorite-from-a-pint-glass/zsJplo—vLeE670GgarzQ

            Is the New Belgium Trippel out there? I think that’s probably the best of their regular beers. Might be a more economical way to soothe the butthurt.

            Also, I’m just going to say this here so I stop having pointless fights in other threads, but emotional response is a terrible basis for policy and legislation. Fine, I’m an emotionless robot, but reality, facts and data should drive decisions, not feelings.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Hmmm….does it come on rye, with sauerkraut? Who’d a thunk it? They have a new trippel? I love trippels…their old one was just OK though.

            So, about your comment…I tend to agree with you. At first I thought I must’ve said something that ginned you up, but now I’m thinking it was in the thread about drug policy. I stayed out of that one…she lost her daughter-a pain beyond imagining-and is reacting on the basis of that loss. She took me to task once for a careless tweaker comment I made; I responded, we talked it through, and we’re good now. Not telling you what you should or shouldn’t say or do, but there are certain people who I feel are essentially decent but burdened whom I tend to give a lot of leeway. And you’re not an emotionless robot…you’re a smart person who separates personal agendas from policy….a wise course. But you already know that.

          • ariel_gee_398

            They changed the recipe for the trippel a couple of years back – it’s not amazing, but I think it’s decent.

            If the reaction were just posting shit on the internet, I’d be inclined to agree about just letting it go, but we’re talking about trying to form policy on the basis of that. Some of the work I do is in criminal justice reform, and I’d wager I’ve been to more prisons than a fair number of criminals. Jail time almost never does any good – it doesn’t help people reform or change, it wastes money, and it does all that while exacerbating racial stratification. Advocating for policy that is going to put people in jail but is not going to deter crime, will make people (including drug users) less safe, and is going to disproportionately end up punishing poor black people all for revenge… That’s really harmful.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Let me pick your brain a bit then. Central Tucson, where I live and work, has a huge population of marginalized people who are unable-or in some cases unwilling-to function in society. Homelessness, addiction, mental illness and various combinations thereof. Most of these people are not, by nature, dangerous criminals, but they are involved with constant incidents of petty crime…theft, minor property crimes, fights etc. Jail is no doubt the worst option for them, but what the fuck do you do with these people? I mean, yes, therapy, life skill instruction, job training, diversion programs… baby steps to try to integrate them into the community. But there are nowhere enough resources to address the problem. I tend to look on these people mostly with compassion; there, but for the grace of God and all that. I keep the dollar bills I get in gig tip money in my front pocket to hand out to the bereft and addicted near my shop, I give people rides, I give them cold water on scorching days. But I also get just fucking…weary of it. Tired of getting tools and gear stolen, tired of people casing the house, tired of the constant fucking beefs and brannigans when I go to the public library. That tip money? More than once it’s gotten stolen out of the mandolin case right in front of us.

            I don’t want to see these people locked up, I don’t want to see them hurt, but I don’t know what the fuck the answer is. Property crime here is so ubiquitous that people are almost inured to it. And yeah, it’s good not to sweat the small shit and not worry too much about “stuff”, but just shrugging it off time and time again isn’t normal either. And I totally agree with you that people of color bear the brunt of any “get tough” approach to crime, guilty or not…although most of the deadbeats I come across tend to be white.

            So, I dunno. If there is a question in all of the above, I’m not sure what it is…but given the nature of your work and your convictions on the issue, I’d love to hear what you think.

          • ariel_gee_398

            Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s much of an answer for cases like that given our current political climate. There are things that would make a difference, but we mostly lack the political will to try them. The real work would be, I think, convincing people to give a shit about people like that. We tend to think about the impact on individual victims of crime, but not consider larger societal impacts. Suppose an individual victim gets “justice” – the person who stole their shit goes to jail. But incarcerating that person won’t deter crime (it’s pretty much impossible to deter an addict from stealing to feed their habit), is expensive, and pushes the person so far out of mainstream society, even after they are released, that recidivism is pretty much inevitable. Of course, there are people who I think need to be segregated from society – your Ted Bundys, Jeffrey Dahmers, etc – but for the vast majority of people, we’re just making a bad situation worse. Factoring reduced rates of recidivism and the benefits of having someone paying taxes and being a good citizen, it’s way less expensive to take a different approach than to simply put someone in jail. However, we don’t do very well at thinking about long term costs like that.

            If you get to the point of thinking about diverting resources from incarcerating people to more restorative justice solutions, it looks a lot less daunting. There are loads of programs that can work, including specialized court programs (drug court, veterans’ court, etc) that funnel people into services that can help. Same thing with family law matters – working to rebuild families is a better and less expensive (in the long-run) option than putting a parent in jail and a kid into foster care. Changing that attitude really is key.

            But that’s not terribly practical because, as I said, lack of political will. Plus, you have people who have been living this way for years. And yet, you’re right, it’s not fair to the community to have to live like that. So I think the best you can probably hope for is to try to prevent more people from joining the marginalized – a first arrest should always be diverted to drug court or to the appropriate mental health resource (which you probably don’t have nearly enough of for this to work). For a lot of the rest of the people, the best hope is some sort of supportive living arrangement, at least in the short to medium term. Building up that kind of thing is expensive, but there are all sorts of foundations looking to give away money for demonstration projects. Some enterprising local could put together a grant proposal, start working with a small group of people and see how it goes.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Thanks…very well said, and thought-provoking. America is a very Old Testament society when it comes to criminal justice. I don’t think we’ve ever really bought into the idea of rehabilitation, or, if it all, it punishment takes the top hand. And sometimes that is the fair option, but as you said, it takes a toll on society-and minority communities-in devastating ways.

            As I mentioned, the public libraries here are sort of epicenters for these problems with the demographic I mentioned. You know, clean restrooms, AC, and nobody asks you to leave if you mind your own business. But problems were getting out of hand, constant calls to the police. But a creative solution they came up with was to hire several public health nurses on staff, people who are experienced with this marginalized population and able to recognize certain problems….a person missing their medication, or something as simple as being terribly dehydrated. They are able to respond proactively and de-escalate rather than the full-on clusterfuck that so often ensues when the cops arrive. Since they did this, calls to law enforcement have decreased, like 80%.

            I saw a good documentary of PBS about this issue. In Kentucky of all places…they were ordered to reduce their prison population, so they are trying more of the things you suggested. It was a mixed bag…sometimes the results were extraordinary and hope-restoring. Other people just didn’t seem to be able or willing to grasp the benefits of these less punitive options, no matter how much those in the system tried to help them. As you pointed out, old habits die hard.

            But hey, thanks for taking some time and energy to respond. Much appreciated and much to think about.

          • ariel_gee_398

            It’s actually not true that we’ve never considered rehabilitation. The first penitentiary in the country was in Philly and was designed to provide rehabilitation rather than just punishment. Early Americans were a lot more influenced by Utilitarianism, and punishment for punishment’s sake doesn’t really fit into that philosophy. We’ve always had a bit of a bloodthirsty bend, but that’s really become more pronounced in the past 40 years or so.

            I’m in the middle of reading this book called Locked In about mass incarceration, and the basic argument is that if you agree mass incarceration is bad, we need to drastically change the way we think about justice to do anything about it. Stuff like calling nurses instead of cops is a part of it.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Well, we’re not about to let a bunch of fucking Quaker pacifists tell us what to do now, are we?

            I remember reading once that in colonial America, long gaol sentences were considered unspeakably cruel. And for perspective, these were people who would happily nail your tongue to a board for taking the Lord’s name in vain, or display the heads of the executed on pikes in the public square. You know, the “good old days”, right?

          • ariel_gee_398

            Aside from the preoccupation with oats, Quakers aren’t half bad. Peace and kindness seem like good jumping off points if you’re coming up with a religion.

            Frankly, they were probably right. The psychological impact of lengthy (often solitary) jail sentences is devastating. There’s a show that was on…Sundance, I think, called Rectify about a guy coming back to life outside of prison after years in solitary. It’s one of the best representations of prison and what it does to people that I’ve ever seen. And it makes GREAT use of music throughout.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I have a lot of Mennonite friends…one of whom I am distantly related to on my paternal side. I have a tremendous amount of respect for them. Most of the Mennonites I know are thoroughly modern folks. Service to others is so dominant in their psyche…even the ones who are not longer active in the church are still serious SJWs. Part of why I had such a crappy day on Friday is that one of my Mennonite pals-a dear friend-stopped by the shop to tell me he had been diagnosed with leukemia. He’s a very stoic and resourceful guy, and we had a very matter-of-fact conversation about his situation and prognosis, and I was happy to hear him so resolute. Then I got home, super tired and beat, and just lost it…wept like a child at the unfairness of it.

            Mother of God…there was another doc on PBS about solitary confinement…in Maine of all places, where everyone is white. It was like something out of the Middle Ages. People literally go insane, start harming themselves in the most horrific ways. Fortunately, a somewhat progressive warden was doing everything he could to try to reduce that population to the minimum.

            I was thinking about your exchange with you-know-who about drug policy-the shit I will wake up in the middle of the night thinking about…lemme tell ya-and in your defense, I have noticed that has started being something of the Wonkette Thought Cop when it comes to this matter…telling others what they’re allowed to say and think. I spoke on her behalf because of what she’s gone through…I mean, if I lost Drublic Jr., my life would be fucking OVER, so I try not to judge. But eventually that tendency will come to a head, even with me….nasty vile little snark mob being what it is and all.

            Don’t know if you saw the thread some time back where someone who claimed to be a clinical sociopath showed up to express their butthurt about many of “you people” carelessly toss around the term “sociopath” when speaking about Trump and his spawn. I mean, the irony was thick enough to suffocate in. I have an odd fascination with sociopathy, having known one in my life, yet every atom in my body was screaming “do NOT engage with this person…if they do not get exactly the response they are fishing for, it will get ugly in a hurry”. Which of course, it did. You know…”I have zero empathy for people or any living things and everything I do in life involves manipulation of others for my own benefit, but you assholes are being so unfair to me!” And I thought I’d seen it all.

          • ariel_gee_398

            I’m sorry about your friend. One of my friends went through a battle with a very aggressive form of leukemia. He was fine, then he felt like he had the flu, and all of a sudden that was the diagnosis. It was heartbreaking and awful. Hopefully, your friend gets the best care possible.

            It’s really a disgusting practice, used as punishment. Though in some prisons it’s the alternative to safe housing. Instead of making their prisons safe for queer prisoners or gender non-conforming folks, they’ll make those prisoners check them into 23-hour a day solitary lock in. Some choice, eh? Get assaulted or go crazy from isolation.

            It’s not like I’m not sympathetic to that. And I wouldn’t say this directly, but being driven by emotion like that is basically what leads to Trump. Shutting down the rational part of your brain, or refusing to entertain appeals to rationality, is extremely dangerous. We already create too much policy based on feelings rather than facts, and, while I’m sympathetic and know I can’t begin to know what she’s going through, I don’t think that pain entitles anyone to a free pass to try to make dangerous policy unchallenged. I have also been called “maddeningly rational” a number of times, so there’s that…

            No, somehow I missed it when Trump showed up in the comments. I think there’s a valuable lesson in there about avoiding the shit-stirrers. It’s just never worth it.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Thank you. The thing is, this was caught during a routine checkup…he has yet to feel any real symptoms yet, but they are anticipating chemo within the year. I hope for the best….he and his wife had a daughter born with severe spina bifida who lived a short and difficult life; it seems like they’ve already had their fair share of heartbreak. You’ve never seen “support” like what that Mennonite community provides, so he has that.

            I totally get what you say separating policy decisions from pesonal decisions, maddeningly rational emotionless robot that you are notwithstanding. One of the things that has gotten us where we are-as you already said of, course- is this notion of “I feel that he is just like me” or “it seems like we could hang out together” rather than an evaluation of their intellect, governing abilities, policy goals etc. I voted for Bernie in the primary because he most closely reflected my personal value system…I’ve also lived long enough to know that someone “just like me” doesn’t necessarily add up to being the most capable or suitable candidate…far from it, in fact. And because of that awareness, I had zero problem going all in for Hillary and acknowledging she was by FAR the better choice to lead this country.

            I was proud of myself that I didn’t engage with the sociopath…but I watched others do so, and the minute he/she encountered a Wonker who wasn’t falling for the ploy, it got ugly. What a surprise, eh?

            On the subject of crime, incarceration etc.; I don’t know where you seek your bliss is in terms of video entertainment, but I highly recommend the HBO drama “The Night Of”. Stars John Turturro as a lowest-rung-possible criminal lawyer, and an ensemble cast. I tend to avoid these cable series because of the time commitment involved with watching them, but this one was only, like 8 episodes. Turturro’s acting is astonishing, and the plot is so nuanced and compelling, I found myself getting anxious a few days before the next episode in anticipation. Richard Price was one of the producers and writers…NOBODY writes urban dialogue as beautifully as Price. In his books, he often tells you very little about his characters by way of physical or emotional description; everything you know about them is through how they speak, and it’s so vivid, I feel I can actually hear them talk.

          • ariel_gee_398

            Well, hopefully being caught early means a good outcome.

            Did you see the article about climate science and how colossally fucked we are? This is why you don’t vote based on who you’d like to hang out with, or who seems on your level.

            I’ve been meaning to watch that, actually, just haven’t gotten around to it yet. I get what you mean about the cable series. I ended up sort of hate-watching the end of Mad Men. And season 5 of The Wire, which I think was otherwise absolutely impeccable.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            If you liked “The Wire”, you’ll love “The Night Of”…same nuanced sensibilities, I’m guessing some off the same great writers. And yeah, as much as I liked The Wire, I have yet to watch the last two seasons, for the reasons mentioned. I kind of like this “limited series” thing…keep it tight, no wasted time or plot meandering.

            I didn’t see that climate change article. The Guardian? We are fucking doomed, aren’t we? And yet environmental issues are like, page 10 on the list of Trump family assfuckery that gets attention….just slightly ahead of stealing from a children’s cancer charity.

          • ariel_gee_398

            If you’ve skipped Season 4 – don’t. That’s the season they dealt with schools, and was probably my favorite (and the most heartbreaking) season.

            No, it’s in NY Magazine: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans.html

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Oh, I haven’t abandoned it…just waiting to find some time in my life to watch it without feeling like it’s just another obligation.

            Guess I’ll read it…and decide whether I want to go out in a blaze of drama via lightning or slowly watch our planet become engulfed in flames and cataclysmic storms. You never get any good choices these days.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            And just to be clear, I didn’t relate what I did to toss it up in your snout, like “whattya say to THAT, miss smartypants”. I’m genuinely interested in what you think.

          • ariel_gee_398

            No worries – that was clear.

  • Lyly Sirivong

    Are you kidding me ?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/06/trump-took-a-question-from-a-reporter-he-considered-hiring-and-used-it-to-bash-the-media/?utm_term=.f7d8490d9745

    ““Yeah, I think what CNN did was unfortunate for them,” Trump replied. “As you know, now they have some pretty serious problems. They have been fake news for a long time. They’ve been covering me in a very, uh, very dishonest way.”

    […]

    “But CNN and others — and others; I mean NBC is equally as bad, despite the fact that I made them a fortune with ‘The Apprentice,’ but they forgot that. But I will say that CNN has really taken it too seriously, and I think they’ve hurt themselves very badly, very, very badly. And what we want to see in the United States is honest, beautiful, free — but honest — press. We want to see fair press. I thinkit’s a very important thing. We don’t want fake news.

    “And by the way, not everybody is fake news. But we don’t want fake news. Bad thing. Very bad for our country.””

    • Bill D. Burger
    • Villago Delenda Est

      We want to see fair press.

      One that never questions, ever, anything Donald does.

    • From Russia with Love

      Very BAAAAAAAAAD!

      The guy really does have the vocabulary of a four year old.

  • Beautiful Soup

    Wonkette is FAKE NEWS! It’s July!

  • Mpeg

    I’m taking notes on all this so I can discuss the issues in polite, interactive, NON-digital company at my local haunt’s upcoming Device-Free Happy Hour.
    We all deserved that break yesterday.
    /grumpy older person

  • Nounverb911
  • Correction: Volvo will start making all their newly designed cars electric in 2019.

    They will keep on making the gas engine cars as long as they sell.

    So, just a Nothing burger, really. 😋

    • Komsumverweigerer Ron

      Still, an indicator of things to come.

  • Bozilingus

    Technically, Hobby Lobby is not a neighbor of Iraq, so it was okay to covet and steal their antiquities.

    • Bill D. Burger
    • Msgr_MΩment

      All due respect to the Holy Scriptures, but have you seen my neighbor’s ass?

      • Bozilingus

        Is she a ’10’?

        • From Russia with Love

          That ass goes to 11.

      • Finnibar87

        Why, did he lose it?

    • Oblios_Cap

      They only wanted them for their Bible Museum that nobody will visit. Except for their poor employees, who be required to make a yearly pilgrimage, Sort of like the Hajj.

      I wonder how many people realize the amount of money the Saudis make from the Hajjs? I’ll bet the Catholics are pissed they didn’t think of mandating a trip to Rome for all of their adherents.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/14/mecca-hajj-saudi-Arabia

      • Bozilingus

        Maybe HL was going to join the Kentucky Ark.

    • From Russia with Love

      I like the way you think!

    • Robby Hobby Lobby.

    • President in Exile Firefly

      Was coveting an ass involved? That’s a commandment I really can’t, um, get behind.

  • LeftyProud

    This is probably of topic, but I need to rant to like minded folks… my husband, on a business trip in Houston, was talking to his clients (not sure where). A loud argument ensues in front of the meeting, one person being a Trump supporter. My husband tried to diffuse the argument. All that was said was a request to tone it down or go outside so the meeting could continue. One person arguing, the sane one, agreed. The Trump supporter shoved my husband and called him a “scion of Hillary.” The clients, impressed with my husband, quickly thought to take the meeting elsewhere, the hotel bar where husband was staying. They said afterwards that the Trump supper was carrying a gun. Husband is fine, but i am PISSED off.

    • Oblios_Cap

      “I’m louder so I’m more correct” is the logic those bastards live by.

      • From Russia with Love

        “And if I’m not loud enough, you can say hello to my little friend.”

    • Latverian Diplomat

      I don’t think that person knows what scion means, they just think it sounds ominous?

      • Oblios_Cap

        Maybe he thinks her hubby is Hillary’s car?

        • LeftyProud

          Genius.

      • Finnibar87

        He’s Hillary’s foreign made auto.

      • BeachBum

        They hear it on the tee vee Sunday mornings. ” Get out thy cards of credit for salvation ye fornicators and sodomites ! “

    • Beautiful Soup

      I was very confused reading this, because I thought you said the trip was in Honolulu. Houston makes more sense. Sorry, must be very upsetting for you both. “Scion of Hillary” has t-shirt and coffee mug potential, if the wonkemarketeers are listening.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      I have no idea why Trump supporters are so fucking angry. I know why I’m angry, but the WON. Is it because he won, but we all refuse to suck his tiny little dick?

      • Finnibar87

        Because reasons!

      • Edith Prickly

        i get the impression they thought that the US would magically transform into a place where they could be openly racist, sexist, anti-Muslim bigots and the liebrulz would be too scared and weak to oppose them. They’re pissed because they’re finding out that most of the things Trump promised to do are against the law/repellent to decent people/economy-killers/terrible fucking ideas. Also, I think some of them may be experiencing buyers’ remorse but can’t say it out loud because that would mean admitting the leftists were right about Trump.

        • Ω cynmac will never surrender

          AOT, K. I haven’t encountered any Trumpanzees F2F lately, Thank FSM.

        • Courser_Resistance

          I think that a lot of them know, deep in their hearts, that he’s illegitimate. He didn’t win ‘clean’ in their minds. They won’t admit it so they have to project outward, desperately trying to defend and support the Orange Obscenity.

        • Yr. Gma

          This. Bigly.

      • SweetDeeKat

        Bingo. We have no respetz for the predisency.

        • BeachBum

          The office, yes. The occupant, no.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      I’d at least make sure the person who decided to escalate (and who actually instigated physical contact) is reported to their supervisor. Arguments are one thing, but when you start engaging in the use of force you’ve crossed the line into severe unprofessional conduct.

    • Finnibar87

      And now? So are we!

      Solidarity.

    • LeftyProud

      Thank you all- you made me laugh about this! I knew I came to the right place to vent!!!

    • Courser_Resistance

      I’m so sorry that happened to your hubby. How scary.

      • LeftyProud

        Thanks so much. He is fine, I am on a mission now, if I was not before, that is. I want them and him to go down.

    • BeachBum

      That is too bad. I don’t think he meant the car. Sounds oldye self righteous evangelical to me. Those people are crayzee !

  • Latverian Diplomat

    National Buffoon’s European Vacation Plot Points:
    — Trump Motorcade causes multiple accidents
    — Melania’s porn video released
    — Fistfight breaks out with German delegation

    Result: National Lampoon sues.

    • Finnibar87

      Trump is gonna try and go all Tawain parliament on Germany’s ass.

    • From Russia with Love

      “Pardon me homes. Do you happen to know where the G20 is at?”

  • Bozilingus

    Hope Donnie enjoys his Eurotrip, but Donnie doesn’t know what Melania will be doing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0VIVXh8kes

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    Why does Hobby Lobby hate Indiana Jones?

  • eyelashviper

    Carson the red panda eats his salad first, good boy, carefully disassembles the pinata, then goes to the camera and sez…”where dafuq are my party pals, presents, and the magician, also too???”

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    Fucking smug dipshit writes fucking smug bullshit:

    Leading Climate Scientist Says Debating Theories Would Be ‘Un-American’

    Now you would think the scientific establishment would embrace an opportunity to present their case to a wary, if disinterested, public. You would think the 97 percent of scientists who supposedly all agree human activity is causing climate change would eagerly line up to vanquish climate deniers, especially those in the Trump administration. You would think the same folks who fear a science-averse President Trump would be relieved his administration is encouraging a rigorous, forensic inquiry into the most consequential scientific issue of our time that has wide-ranging economic, social, and political ramifications around the world.

    You would think.

    But instead, many scientists and activists are expressing outrage at this logical suggestion, even advising colleagues not to participate. In a June 21 Washington Post op-ed, three top climate scientists repudiated the red-team concept, offended by the slightest suggestion that climate science needs fixing. Naomi Oreskes, Benjamin Salter, and Kerry Emanuel wrote that “calls for special teams of investigators are not about honest scientific debate. They are dangerous attempts to elevate the status of minority opinions, and to undercut the legitimacy, objectivity and transparency of existing climate science.”

    In a July 1 post full of irony, leading climate scientist Ken Caldeira blasts the climate contest: “We don’t want red team/blue team because science doesn’t line up monolithically for or against scientific positions.” What? Never mind the 97 percent consensus claim that’s been shoved down our throats for the past decade. (Caldeira also wrote just a few months ago that “the evidence for human-induced global warming is now so strong that no sensible person can deny a human role in these temperature increases. We can argue about what we should or should not do … but the argument is over.”)

    Caldeira then smugly questions why “politicians who have never engaged in any scientific inquiry in their lives believe themselves to be the experts who should tell scientists how to conduct their business?” (Shall we then ask why scientists who have never engaged in any legislative or political endeavor in their lives believe themselves to be the experts who should tell lawmakers how to conduct their business?)

    Climate Scientists Fear Losing Power, Nothing Else

    Then there is the interminably-petulant and prosaic Michael Mann, who routinely dishes out the “denier” name to anyone who crosses him, and recently compared himself to a Holocaust survivor. Mann told ThinkProgress that the red-team concept is “un-American” and a ruse to “run a pro-fossil fuel industry disinformation campaign aimed at confusing the public and policymakers over what is potentially the greatest threat we face as a civilization.”

    Aha! Right there is the key objection to the entire exercise: the risk to their political power. These activists know that climate change long ago stopped being about science. It is a liberal, big-government agenda wrapped up in a green cloak of superiority and virtue. For the past decade, the pro-climate crusaders have ruled policymaking, from international organizations to federal agencies down to your local park district. The Trump administration poses the first threat to their dominance, and instead of being up to the task of defending it — in public, with evidence and not platitudes, facing scientists they have smeared for not being part of the ‘consensus’ – they want to walk away.

    That’s why I hope Pruitt proceeds with it. Let the blue team have an empty bench that will show American exactly what they think of ‘science’ – and them.”

    (There’s more at the link…back to bed):

    https://thefederalist.com/2017/07/06/leading-climate-scientist-science-debate-un-american/

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      So because we refuse to engage with stupid people and let them drag us down to their level, they win?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      These people are beyond reason. This invites other methods of persuasion.

  • jesterpunk

    OT but more republican ratfucking.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/department-of-justice-voter-purge_us_595d22b1e4b0da2c7326c38b

    Former Department of Justice officials and voting advocates are seriously
    alarmed over a DOJ letter sent to states last week that they say could
    signal a forthcoming effort to kick people off voter rolls. This comes
    as national attention focuses on several states blocking a request for voter information from President Donald Trump’s commission to investigate voting fraud, which does occur, but is not a widespread problem.

    The DOJ sent the letter to 44 states last Wednesday, the same day the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity sent a letter controversially requesting personal voter information.The DOJ letter requests that election officials respond by detailing their compliance with a section of the National Voter Registration Act
    of 1993 (NVRA), which covers 44 states and was enacted to help people register to vote, but also specifies when voters may be kicked off the rolls.

    Several experts said it’s difficult not to see the DOJ letter in connection
    with the commission’s letter as part of a multipronged effort to
    restrict voting rights.

    Former
    Justice Department officials say that while there’s nothing notable
    about seeking information about compliance with the NVRA, it is unusual
    for the department to send out such a broad inquiry to so many states
    seeking information. Such a wide probe could signal the department is
    broadly fishing for cases of non-compliance to bring suits aimed at
    purging the voter rolls.

    • Finnibar87

      It sure seems when Rs are in power, I throw up way more than otherwise.

    • From Russia with Love

      Not sure who is going to get the worst ass biting over this, but if it’s applied fairly (lol), I can easily see more Republicans being caught cheating than Democrats.

      • jesterpunk

        Well in the last election the people caught committing voter fraud where all Trump supporters. But with Kobach and now the DOJ there is a good change they will try and get Democratic Party voters kicked off the voting rolls.

        • Courser_Resistance

          Ding, ding, ding! Registered Dems and people with surnames that sound brown will be those challenged. White Repugs, not so much.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Trust me, they’re going to be targeting people whose names ‘sound brown’ and all Democrats. Register Republican and you’re safe.

  • Marceline

    “Tomorrow’s June jobs report is expected to be pretty shitty”

    Say it with me: Republicans always screw up the economy.

    • alpacapunchbowl

      And yet they still manage to make metric fucktons of $$$. Funny, that.

  • eyelashviper

    So when does the shoving match being in Europe? Will the Hoofwanker try to push Merkel down some stairs? Will he try to trip Macron, Trudeau, and other hot guys?
    Will Melania backhand him when he tries to grab her lady parts in public?
    The world awaits for more Predisential stuff from Dear Leader II.

  • UnsaltedSinner

    Good news, Democrats! Your party is about to be saved by a couple of billionaires and lots and lots of retweets.

    https://thebaffler.com/political-cartoons/bafflersplainer-win-the-future

    • BadKitty904

      What “party”?

      • Courser_Resistance

        WTF? I think that about says it all.

    • Yr. Gma

      I suppose it’s a Facebook thing.

  • VirginiaWackelpudding

    Did not realize how bad things were getting in Poland. Looks like they fell for the same freakshow the UK and the USA did. Oh well, they are grownups. Really wanted to hear 45 mangle good morning and other simple phrases in Polish. Jean dough bray y’all!

  • calliecallie

    The only aspect of the Hobby Lobby thing that surprises me is that the DOJ under DJT is pursuing this antiquities theft thing. Did Hobby Lobby not donate enough ameros? Do the Mercers or Kochs have a beef with the Hobby Lobby family?
    I’m not surprised those pious religious zealots stole antiquities. I’m surprised they’re getting prosecuted. What does that say about America?

    • BeachBum

      They got off easy. Any jury would not be of 12 pious religious zealot thieves to decide their fine.

      • Petunia Cat

        All good points, but what does anything in cuniform have to do with Christians?

        I dare say the Hobby Lobby creepsters will be freaked out when they find out what a cherub REALLY looks like. Spoiler: they are a winged bull with a human head. 😯🐂

    • alpacapunchbowl

      The fine was only, what, 3 mil? And this has probably been in the works for quite awhile since investigations take time, so I suspect this is more of a Thanks, Obama! kinda deal.

  • BeachBum

    While we are waiting for Der Trampersmrisch to bring back Chinese Factory Jobs to the Rustbelt and make new and terrific and bigly great trade deals, the rest of the world meanders on trying to moar better’en sell shit to each other. EU & Japan or JEEPA.

    https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21724830-besides-slashing-tariffs-cheese-and-cars-it-sends-message-donald-trump

  • Hardly Ideal

    Hey, easy on Volvo. My parents used to take us out to the desert in our old red 240 wagon. One of the best periods in my childhood.

    • BearLeft

      I had two 122’s and a 164, but you’ve got to admit that “exciting” isn’t one of the first 200 adjectives that come to mind ….

      • Hardly Ideal

        I guess I’d say the same about my Fit, but it sure does facilitate exciting things like, say lava tube caves.

  • BearLeft

    “… pretty confident Putin would start riding him around bareback …”? Yeah, I guess TRump aides are about the only people who can’t admit that this has been Vlad & Donnie’s favorite sport for years.

  • Querolous
    • Jamoche

      Still a better car than what he got as James Bond.

      • Querolous

        I wouldn’t mind having a Lotus Esprit Submarine Car .

  • alpacapunchbowl

    I’m sure this has already been posted, but obligatory:
    https://youtu.be/4sB5gE9T6N8

  • Panika MCD

    Ta) how do they fit relevant information into 140 characters while inserting Tsarina Short Fingers’ name to keep him interested?

    b) journalistic ethics and human standards say you don’t announce the names of the deceased until the families are notified already. if anyone was releasing the names early: fuck them. no one wants to find out about their loved one’s death via FacePlant viral article.

    c) minors were already granted a hearing no matter what–though the hearings don’t always find in their favor. the fact that we had to go back to court to reassert this basic law is annoying.

    d) cue K-Con to ask the media why they aren’t raving about Tsarina Tic Tacs YOOGELY TREMENDOUS golf swing.

    e) WTF is wrong with a career politician? this is something I’ve never understood about people–you don’t want someone who knows what the fuck they’re doing in there? fuck right off!

    f) TX also too makes tons of Ameros selling beef to the rest of the country…and other countries also too–along with cotton, milk and our tourist industry. you gonna get mad about those?

    g) I thought the GOP were the 2A, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, self-defense party…why can’t they defend themselves in a liberal city–lord knows the TX government would shut down if our law makers didn’t think they could. (offer not available for all agency staffers because: carrying around a gun all the time is stupid.)

    h) the things someone could do with TrumpRussia.com…wonder if Anonymous could wake from its dreams of destroying the Democratic Party and do one of those cool things it does every once in a while that doesn’t make me hate them completely…to be fair, most of my hate in this particular instance is directed at all the little shits who think they know someone in Anonymous and not at Anonymous itself.

    i) I thought we already knew this about Hobby Lobby and that a lot of the artifacts were coming from ISIS…what’s everyone so surprised about?

    • Jamoche

      a) They’re helped by Twitter’s recent change to not count user names in the 140 characters.

      • Panika MCD

        good call, dear Tweeters whisperer!

  • Zyxomma

    I love that Carson (the red panda) was more interested in the leaves on branches decorating his birthday cake, and the carrots (?) stuck in the sides than in the cake itself. Must not have been those cakes he likes.

    • Petunia Cat

      Me too. I think Carson would’ve liked a whole bunch more of them leaves. I wish they wouldn’t make zoo animals’ birthday treats into a cake shape. Just give them a bunch of little bowls with unusually yummy stuff. 🌱🍃🍇

      PS I am thinking about Carson because all the rest of it is far too horrible. Except for Sergey being sad. 😌

  • The 4chan “politically incorrect” (/pol/) board will kick you off if you’re not some kind of right-wing nationalist.

    8chan /pol/ will kick you off if you’re not a 100%, swastika-toting, Hitler-heiling, Holocaust-never-happened-AND-Jews-deserved-it, Day-of-the-Roping National Socialist.

    That’s the difference. Think about that.

    • HazooToo

      I don’t want to…

  • Trump goes to Poland and tells Poles how bad immigration is. If Trump was president 100 years ago, when masses of Poles were emigrating to the good ol’ US of A, he’d be ranting against all those Keilbasa immigrants.

    • Jerilynadaniels

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  • Rickyphoo

    If the June jobs report is bad, then it is either “fake news” or the black guy’s fault, because #MEGA.

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