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Hey Wonkers! Did you finish watching The Handmaid’s Tale yet? Did it make you want to set all the things on fire and also cry a lot through the whole thing? Or did you not even watch it because it just seems like there’s never, ever a time when you’re emotionally prepared enough to deal with that shit, because everything is horrible all the time now? No spoilers, but I have to say that the “I’m sorry, Aunt Lydia” thing in the finale got me right in the freaking gut.

Well, if you thought that was heartwrenching, behold this Funny or Die sketch in which the script is flipped and men are the Hand…men.

It’s funny ’cause it’s true. Or at least it’s true to the extent that these are the kinds of things men’s rights activists and Red Pill idiots consider “oppressive” to men, which appear all the more ridiculous when you compare them to the kind of things women have to fear from men. Somehow, a world without manspreading is just not as compellingly horrific as the patriarchal dystopia of The Handmaid’s Tale. Somehow.

Anyway — IT’S YOUR OPEN THREAD! ENJOY!

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  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    A new poster wrote something really poignant on the Philando Castille story. I hope some of you go back and read it.

    • Picabo

      Thanks for the tip.

    • Paul

      Sure. What’s the name?

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        It had “naw” in it. That’s all I remember :-(

        • Paul

          Found it. That person posts here on occasion and generally writes these long, well thought out and well written responses.

          Smart person and I enjoy reading her/him.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Yes, I was struck by their thoughtfulness, too. I’d never seen that name before though. He/she is a good poster. I wish they’d post more often, like two other people I can think of, who are too busy being in love and riding motorcycles through the countryside.

            //this message brought to you by your Jewish grandmother, who you never call :-)

          • Paul

            We’d probably call but the dog ate your phone number.

            We both backed off Wonk and went private on our Disqus accounts because some totally horrible troll viciously attacked Holly and said some truly vile things to her that genuinely put her in fear for her life and triggered all sorts of PTSD.

            I don’t know if you saw her post about losing two (of three) kids and her husband in a plane crash, but this motherfucker surely did. I’m relieved I never mentioned the town/city we live in because he went through our histories and found way too much information about us and our location, really narrowing it down. Then he promised to find her and kill her to make an example of her for not respecting MRA’s and actually snarking at them.

            I told him I and my two good friends, Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson, were waiting for him, along with a pump shotgun filled with buckshot rounds.

            I’m kinda mellow but will send that fucker for a dirt nap if I can find him.Local chief of police is a client and agrees with me. ” Fuck, Paul. Shoot first and ask questions later.”

            That was 2 months ago and she is getting better but is still kinda fucked up about the entire shit show.

            Probably more info than you needed but you’re nice and deserve the full story as to where we went.

            Now, with all that said, let me re-invite you to the beautiful Berkshires if you ever get a chance. I’ll tell the rest of the story about the douchebag. Haven’t heard a squeak out of the rat.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Dear lord/lady, that’s awful. I’m so sorry to hear that you have both been going through that. I can’t imagine how horrible her losses were. And to have some cretin be so vile and threatening…

            I’m so very sad you have been dealing with all of that. Thank you for sharing this, and I wish you both peace.

          • Paul

            Thanks. We appreciate it.

          • Paul

            Thank you. We’ll get through all this shit, eventually.

            I’d still like to find that evil, vile rat bastard. His cruelty was well planned and cut dear Holly to the bone.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            He is clearly the platonic ideal of an asshole.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I wrote you a response, but I think the internet ate it, so I’m going to try again.

            I had NO idea any of that had happened. I know Rebecca mentioned at some point that some folks had been harassed by someone pretty awful. I had no idea it was you guys. I had a girlfriend who had something very similar happen to her. It was quite terrifying for her. He found out who she was because she mentioned her dog’s names, and he found her name and address through that. Luckily, he never showed up at her doorstep. I always worry about Robyn’s safety, since she writes about MRAs quite often. I enjoy her columns, but I worry about her.

            I hope you guys have dogs, because they’re the best alarm system, as well as being wonderful animals.

            I had no idea Holly had lost her husband and children. Please give her my heartfelt condolences, and a huge hug. I’ve never had kids, but my mother always said she wasn’t sure she could survive the loss of a child. The human spirit tends to be remarkably resilient, though, and what doesn’t kill us does tend to make us stronger. She must be amazingly strong. I’m sorry that on top of bearing that tragedy, someone would be so cruel, and torment her in that way. I’m glad she met you!

            I may take you up on that Berkshires offer, and obviously if you’re headed my way, you’ll let me know.

          • Paul

            She is the strongest woman I’ve ever met. I’ll maybe write more later but yesterday was a day from hell and I’m kinda still reeling. A nephew committed suicide and a sister in law died from a heart attack. They were unrelated.

            The sister in law was married to one of my brothers who himself died from a heart attack about ten years ago. Those poor kids are now orphans. Bad day.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Ugggh…when it rains, it pours. I had a friend who committed suicide, and it left me with a weird, hollow, helpless feeling. I respect that a person has the right to kill himself, but it is devastating for those left behind.

            How old are your brother’s children?

            I remember when Christopher Reeve died, and his wife succumbed to breast cancer not long afterwards, and they left two teenagers behind. It really does seem like only the good die young.

            Sending you a virtual hug. I know things will get better.

          • Paul

            His boys are in their 30’s and will be OK, eventually. I was worried about the younger one falling apart but he surprised me and I am proud of him. I’m sure he’ll have his moments but he is holding up well. Thanks and sorry to dump that shit on you.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I wouldn’t blame your nephew if he falls apart. I know I’ll be a mess when my mom dies, since we’re very close, even though she’s a dumb Republican.

            One of my neighbor’s had a sister who died unexpectedly of a heartache, and she was only 58. They’re still in the dumps about it several months later. I’ve had four friends die in the past two years, and only one of them was the “right” age to die. He was 77, and one of the finest people I’ve ever known. The rest were all “young” men, in their mid fifties.

            You aren’t dumping anything on me. We all have our moments when the shit just keeps hitting the fan, and you think “Christ, when is this misery going to end?” The last time I was genuinely happy was in November. I was making plans for the future, and was feeling hopeful and optimistic, and then Hurricane Trump hit. I alternate between laughing at the absurdity, and wanting to cry. I guess my point is that some times the shit is on a personal level, and some times it’s on a macro level, and right now, you’re getting hit in the face on both levels. I just know things will get better because they always do.

            On the surface I’m a cynic, but deep down I’m hopelessly optimistic, and I always think things will improve. I even think the nation might survive Trump. I only wish I had more than platitudes to offer you. I’m also not religious, but you and Holly will be in my thoughts, and I wish you all the best things going forward. I hope you’ve had your share of the bad things to last you for a few years, and now it’s time for some of the good things to happen.

          • Paul

            Thank you. We’ll get through all of this… we have each other, good friends and our good friends at Wonk, like you. Holly is the eternal optimist, because that’s how much love the dear woman has. Me, I’m a fucking cynic and misanthrope. It’s why I live in the middle of the woods in the middle of nowhere. I’m old and have seen too much and shut down emotionally.

            Then I met this stellar woman and my heart grew again. I’m extremely lucky.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            You’re both lucky!

          • Paul

            Christopher Reeve lived in Williamstown, here in the Berkshires. Used to see the family all the time at the local ski area in the lodge. Most of the locals knew enough not to bother them but occasionally someone, usually with a New York accent (fucking tourists) would pecker them. The family was always gracious.

            It was hard to follow the news back then when that went down.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I remember an interview with him, where he recounted how he told his wife after his accident “you don’t have to stay with me. I’ll understand.” She was like “that’s just crazy talk.” I really admired her.

            When I start feeling sorry for myself, I try to remember how genuinely lucky I am compared to 98% of humanity.

          • Paul

            As should we all.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            After you told me Holly’s story, I started realizing I don’t really have that much to complain about, even though I’m probably going to die broke and homeless (Thanks, Republicans!), but that pales in comparison to what she went through.

            You thought you were burdening me with your problems, but you actually UNburdened me, which I’m pretty sure isn’t a word, but you know what I mean.

          • Paul

            I do know. Watching this fine woman persevere each day is awe inspiring. I can not fathom the heartache she endures.

  • Picabo
    • LadyLaz

      Super sad about that. Did you see the parents throwing their children out of windows to save them? The best and worst of humanity. A baby survived falling ten floors. My kids think I am mean, but I would do anything to save them.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I don’t know who came up with the idea of high-rise apartment buildings, but whoever it was, we should dig them up and burn them. Many high-rise apartment buildings are death traps. I once lived on the 34th floor of a 55-story building in Chicago, until I read that the Chicago Fire Department’s ladders only reached to the 10th floor. I moved out ASAP.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i hate tall buildings too – always creeps me out. I lived in chicago on a high floor, right on the waterway (Roosevelet and 12th). Nice view, but creepy.

        I also read somewhere that hte human body won’t usually survive anything higher than an 8 story fall.
        Not sure if true, but 8 stories is high enough.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          I was at LSD and Irving Park. Stunning views. I could have had the best seats at Wrigley if I’d had binoculars, and if I liked baseball. Apparently there are no flies or mosquitoes at the 34th floor level. But it began to creep me out, like you said. Then the power went off one morning and the emergency lights in the stairwell were also out, for unexplained reasons. I called work to say I couldn’t make it in, and asshole boss said “Walk down the stairs.” I said “Can’t, the emergency lights are out.” He said “That’s illegal!” I said “What can I do about it?” He said “Get a flashlight and walk down!” I said “What if I get home at 6 pm and the power is still out, are you suggesting I walk up 34 flights?” He had to reluctantly agree that that might be a bad thing. What an asshole.

  • Caustic Elvisfellow

    I haven’t watched the show because I wanted to read the book first. I read the book. It made me too depressed to watch the show.

    • snigsy

      It took me two tries to finish it. It’s a good novel but, like you, it really depressed me.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I read the book in the 80’s. Avoiding the show like the plague. I got enough on my plate right now with Trump et al.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I watched the 1990 movie starring Natasha Richardson before I read the book. I’m glad I did, because the movie was very good, and the book fleshed out the story line. The Hulu adaptation is even better because they had the time to flesh it out on screen. However, there are bits in the Hulu series that aren’t in the book, and they provide interesting background and personal development. It is not as depressing as you think it will be. . .it is fascinating to watch June as she regains her sense of self and decides to fight back. Yvonne Strahovski does such a superb job of portraying Serena Joy’s repressed fury and intense frustration that you actually feel sorry for her. The entire cast is excellent.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    I hope my wife doesn’t find out I viewed that Funny or Die episode. If she does, I’ll be in for a good paddlin’.

    The way I like it.

  • Jenny

    I have not finished it yet because I am constantly around a million young kids!

    Last night I broke down and watched more episodes but didn’t finish before the younger kids arrived. One day I will finish this!

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    I am not sure I know the series. is it on netflix?

    • DainBramage

      Hulu. I don’t have Hulu, so I haven’t seen it either.

      • It’s airing on one of the Canadian TV channels. I have not watched as i have read the book, and that was before it was a semi-immenent possibility and it still made me rage-y

        • Amen, sister. Amen.

        • Three Finger Salute

          I’m going to guess those weren’t episodes of Handmaid’s Tale but CPC campaign ads promoting Scheer’s “Make Canada Victorian Again” platform.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      You can find it on various Torrent sites, which are illegal and I never use them.

  • btwbfdimho
    • Rachel Book Harlot

      In NYC it’s not illegal (I wish it were!), but they have public service signs in subway cars:

      https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/12/21/nyregion/21MANSPREADING4web/21MANSPREADING4web-jumbo.jpg

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        People do that? I haven’t been out in public since. . . What month is it?

        • Rachel Book Harlot

          Unfortunately, people do.

          http://animalnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/Subway_balls_lead.jpg

          Although, I will say that I have noticed the practice diminish once people started shining a light on how rude it is and the PSA’s went up. But, of course, there will always be assholes.

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            Rude! Just. RUUDE!

            Nobody wants to see that, dude. Put it away! Nobody is impressed.

          • Rachel Book Harlot

            At least there’s no one sandwiched between them. It’s much worse when you’re forced to sit next to one of these guys and his leg is totally in your space thereby forcing you to occupy as little space as is physically possible.

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            What a lot of toxic masculinity nonsense. Who needs to tae up so much space? Some of us invest a lot of effort into not being noticed at all.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg
    • Rachel Book Harlot
    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Now it’s worse than I thought. I thought it was 14 million.

      This. Helps?

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I heard about this at a Renaissance festival last weekend. People in a vendor’s tent were talking about it, and I said “That explains why so many people voted for Trump” and people cracked up. I wasn’t intending to be funny. It’s not funny to me that 60% of graduating high school seniors don’t know who was president during the Civil War and their parents think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. Who shall we blame for this? Let’s blame the media, nobody else is doing that [sarcasm].

    • Amy!

      How now?!

  • Angela Ruzzo

    Not going to watch it, sorry. Margaret Atwood wrote that when she asked a male friend why men feel threatened by women, he answered, “They are afraid women will laugh at them.” When she asked a group of women why they feel threatened by men, they said, “We’re afraid of being killed.” But before men kill us they want to ridicule us, which seems unnecessary.

  • Raan
    • HorseChestnut

      As it turns out, that’s exactly what I needed to see today!

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      You win my good Samaritan of the day award.

    • Little Lulu Ω

      My spleen!

  • btwbfdimho

    A manspreading version of the movie Eyes Wide Shut would be Legs Wide Open?

  • Ωbjectifier

    It’s a lovely day so I ain’t clicking on that.

  • Raan
    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Umm. . . so was I, really. That’s not even a thing I do.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      i guess it’s a bigger issue in places wiht a lot of public transportation.
      (there are uncountable ways to be a dick on buses and trains, as I learned in chicago).

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        That explains my ignorance. I have not used public transportation in my life, really.

        I took the bus for a bit in high school, but that doesn’t count, does it?

      • Raan

        All we​have here is bus service, thanks to governor and second cousin to Yertle, Rick Scott.

        • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

          are they packed buses? Cause I would imagine that’s where it gets really annoying.
          “Muthafucker, I got my face in somebody’s armpit – make some room!”

          • Raan

            I don’t know, I haven’t taken them. They don’t look all that jammed from the outside though.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ah. Oh lord, the Chicago red line at rush hour was terrible. I would actually skip trains to try again and/or have classes at non-rush hour times.
            (The Red was probably the busiest train line around the heart of the city.)

          • Raan

            Like, it’s built up around here, but it’s basically a bedroom community for Clearwater, St. Pete, and Tampa. When probably would have gotten a limited light rail system if Scott had taken the money from the federal government a few years ago.

    • Thiazin Red

      I’m sure you must have been aware, just not heard of the term. Dudes, sit up strait and keep your legs together.

      • Raan

        After I posted this and got replies, I figured out what happened. I heard the term probably early last year sometime, and I didn’t make the connection to it being used metaphorically instead of just referring to the seat thing.

        • Thiazin Red

          I’ve never heard it used metaphorically, just to refer to the literal man rudely spreading his legs out.

      • tomamitai

        What if there’s hardly anybody but you on the bus/train and you’re not taking up anybody else’s space? And how the hell are you supposed to sit up straight on those plastic seats, they’re slippery as hell!

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I first noticed it in Spain 40 years ago. The men did it there because they tended to wear jeans 1 size too small so their genitals would be nicely outlined for everyone to see, and this made it difficult for them to sit down without spreading their legs.

  • not_vh
    • snigsy

      Very thought-provoking paintings. The one of Trump looking tired, hungry, and holding a small child actually humanizes him, maybe because it gives him psychological depth.

      And it says a lot that he can only seem a real human being in what is essentially a work of fiction because in real life he is a two-dimensional, narcissistic caricature of a human being.

      • tomamitai

        Trump looking tired, hungry, and holding a small child

        Dear g-d, is he eating children now?

  • Ωbjectifier

    It’s curious that the Captain of the Fitzgerald had to be air evac’d immediately. One would think he would be on the bridge at the time of the collision, so how did he get so badly injured?

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f57927522154fea962a5d8f16edf25639ca69d12fb81d44fa990bacc8b1c4d3.jpg

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      I believe the collision happened very early in the a.m. so maybe he was sleeping down below. I must confess to know nothing about how any of that works so I’m just speculating. :)

      • Ωbjectifier

        Just saw some newer pics. . Looks like the bridge was heavily damaged. I withdraw my earlier snark.

    • 3FingerPete

      Ship captains spend most of their time overseeing ship operations from their cabin or the wardroom or the ship’s office…generally not on the bridge during routine steaming. The bridge is overseen by a conning officer and a deck officer depending on the size of the crew. On my ship the Deck and the Con were vested in one officer. The Deck/Con officers handle the ship’s bridge operations per a set of written instructions produced by the captain called the Ship’s Standing Orders, which dictate how to conduct operations in routine situations and in what circumstances the captain must be notified immediately. The general courses and speeds of the ship under routine steaming are worked out by the captain and navigator in advance and left with the bridge navigation personnel.

      Of course, any competent captain spends a fair portion of the day on the bridge. And the captain will always be on the bridge during hazardous operations or when entering or leaving ports, etc. Even then, though, the captain acts as the chief executive. The actual maneuvering is usually still vested with the conning officer unless the captain feels compelled to take the con (in an emergency or just for fun).

  • OddMan

    A little something to cheer you up, or not.
    Some GOP right wingers are so clueless they don’t even know which Shakespearean performance group to say awful things to.
    Dumb and hateful. The full Monty.

    https://twitter.com/petermarksdrama/status/876153425637060608

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    Nice. . . palate cleanser?

    Enjoy my misuse of a word. We’ve all earned it.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      yah, I was hoping the cosby thread wouldn’t be the open one.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        You and me both, man. What a day!

  • btwbfdimho

    My wife watched THT, I couldn’t, and we argued a lot whether it’s about feminism or not.
    The writer discussed the topic recently in the NYT.
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/books/review/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-age-of-trump.html

    • Angela Ruzzo

      It’s not about feminism at all. It’s about power. Gilead is a patriarchal dictatorship masquerading as a theocracy, where there is no appeal and no possibility of protecting oneself from the government’s tyranny, and no hope of external intervention. You obey, or you die. Only the people at the very top – in this case a few dozen men – have any freedom at all.

      • Raan

        Is there balm there?

        I’m reduced to making dumb jokes, as I have no Hulu.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          No, that actually is the joke.

          • Raan

            Was that the name in the book too, or just in the Hulu series? This will determine how proud I am of having come to the same joke on my own.

          • House0fTheBlueLights

            Also in the book, although it was barely mentioned. Just a couple of time iirc

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Ha ha. I ran out of British things to watch on Netflix, so I subscribed to Hulu, which has lots of British shows. When I run out of things to watch on Hulu I put it on 3-months “vacation” and go back to Netflix. Paying for both is still a LOT cheaper than cable, which I cancelled 3 years ago.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Funniest description I’ve read is that it’s a rape fantasy. OK, not funny, but kind of on target in a truly awful way. (Jezebel, I think)

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        How in the world is it a rape fantasy? That’s insane.

    • jaspersdad

      Atwood herself has stated it is not a feminist novel.

      “Some critics have called the novel a feminist tract. ”Novels are not slogans,” Miss Atwood responds. ”If I wanted to say just one thing I would hire a billboard. If I wanted to say just one thing to one person, I would write a letter. Novels are something else. They aren’t just political messages. I’m sure we all know this, but when it’s a book like this you have to keep on saying it. The book is an examination of character under certain circumstances, among other things. It’s not a matter of men against women. That happens to be in the book because I think if it were going to happen in the United States, that’s the form it would take. But it’s a study of power, and how it operates and how it deforms or shapes the people who are living within that kind of regime.”

      http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/09/03/specials/atwood-gilead.html

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        It does explore a lot of feminist ideas as a result, though.

        We have a weird relationship with that word.

        • jaspersdad

          Yes, she’s also said that it does contain elements of feminism.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    so, I’m actually kinda enjoying this Wynona Earp show – interesting concept, drags a bit in the beginning but gets better.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      I wasn’t sure about getting into it myself. I will definitely give it a go now, though.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        i think you might like it.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          You watched that show Preacher at all? Loved the comics and the show is spot on.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            nah, haven’t seen it. Is it on netflix? (It sounds familiar).

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            It’s a TMC show. 2nd season’s about to start. I think you’d like it and not just because it’s set in Texas. It’s a neat show.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            lol, thanks. I’ll keep a look out.

            However, I do actually like to watch shows that take place in other parts of the country/world. I’ve seen enough desert for one life. Supposed to reach 106 in about 2 1/2 hours.

          • Raan

            I recommend the first four seasons of Dexter.

            After that, it pretty much goes to shit.

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            i saw the first 2 or so and enjoyed, haven’t seen it since.

          • Raan

            Stop at the end of season four. I am speaking from experience.

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            Wish I had known how much it turned before going all in on the entire run.

          • Raan

            Honestly? I would argue that the finale is worse than The Sopranos.

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            I would agree. I was a huge fan but they lost me with that.

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            I know, that was a failed attempt at a joke.

            It’s got an Irish vampire in it names Cassidy, a lot of comically heavy drinking, Dominic Cooper (Played Howard Stark, Tony’s dad) stars and, of course, Ruth Negga (so awesome in ‘Loving’ as well as Agents of Shield).

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            ah! Cool. I’m here all the time, so I can always use good stuff to watch.

            THanks Jack!

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      I did/do enjoy Wynonna Earp. Generally good acting, and an interesting twist on an old tale.

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    I’m actually enjoying The Handmaid’s Tale, but damn is it hard to watch more than one episode at a time.

    • mancityRed6

      the ex and I were like that when we were renting Breaking Bad from the local video store.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I had to pay extra this month for commercial-free Hulu because I could NOT take suddenly being interrupted with cheerful ads for whatever.

  • Thiazin Red

    I’ll watch it when it comes out on dvd, because I’m not getting hulu for one thing.

    Open Thread: I am so glad my current student doesn’t want to come to the lab at unreasonably early times on the weekend. I don’t like to get up before noon on weekend mornings, but the last one wanted to come to the lab at 9. Current one suggested noon, and I was happy.

    • mancityRed6

      the only reason I have the hulu is so I can continue to watch the Fox Sunday shows on Monday night, out of habit. well, that and I’ve missed a lot of shows on Adult Swim, apparently.

      • Thiazin Red

        I can watch them using the cable on demand, so I don’t have any reason to need hulu.

        • mancityRed6

          ah, I see. but I only have the google fiber, no cable.

      • Ω cynmac will never surrender

        I have hulu so that I don’t have to watch any network shows live. No cable. No dvr. Hulu is cheaper.

        • mancityRed6

          I throw them a few extra soros bucks for no commercials, yeah that’s how I roll.

        • shivaskeeper

          Hulu and Netflix cost me $25/month vice $80+ for cable. Streaming is the way to go. I don’t mind having to wait a day to watch a show.

          Doing it like I do is so common the morning and afternoon drive shows on the radio don’t do spoilers for two or three days after the original broadcast.

    • therblig
    • Angela Ruzzo

      I like Hulu. They have more British TV shows than Netflix, and those are my favorites.

      • Viktor DoKaren

        My favorites too, but I’m through paying to be advertised to.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          I pay extra for the commercial-free version. It’s worth the extra $4 per month. When I have watched every British show they have, I put it on “vacation hold” for 3 months and don’t get charged, and I switch to Netflix. When Netflix runs out of new British stuff, I go back to Hulu. It’s still cheaper than cable.

          • Viktor DoKaren

            Hmmm. I’ll have to look at that. I stopped paying for cable a while ago too. Usually, just Netflix (we watch DVDs too) and broadcast TV, supplemented by youtube and other on-line sources. If I’m not paying for it I’m less fussy about commercials. (Obviously? Still a bit fussy regarding quantity and quality.)

      • Canned Covfefe

        Has anyone tried Brit Box?

        • Angela Ruzzo

          I haven’t. I did check out Acorn’s streaming service, but their shows are mostly older programs I already saw or already own on DVD. Considering the library of programs that Acorn owns, you’d think they could do better than that. I just looked at Brit Box’s list of mystery programs, and I have seen all but 3 of them.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Just used t-shirts from the job that fired me over health issues to wash the car. Petty, but satisfying. Also? I WASHED THE CAR! (This is a thing that never happens)

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Congratulations! Would you come and wash my car? My last job gave us t-shirts every year with patriotic themes above the corporate logo, and then made us all line up outside wearing the shirts for a 4th of July photo shoot. Since I retired I have burned them all.

    • mancityRed6

      I once had a job making plastic cups. I worked 6 days a week, on schedule. the first 5 shirts were free, but I had to pay for the sixth one. I still have it. and I kinda wish I’d kept the others since it fits just like I like.
      it was hot in there so I’d come home and the sweat would dry out and there would be lines of the salt on them. I lost at least 30 pounds in 3 months just from the heat and the constant movement.

    • Jamespuck

      When I was let go for telling boss I would not do something that was very dangerous to me and my coworkers, I took all my company clothing with logos. Went to homeless shelter and gave them all clothing. About month later one was arrested for rape and assault. News coverage showed him wearing company logo sweatshirt

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        hahaha karma is a bitch

  • Raan
  • Yr. Gma

    Didn’t watch it. Not going to. I loved the book. Screen adaptations more often than not fuck up the book version. Now someone said they are doing another season? Is Atwood writing another book? I won’t be watching any season two either.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I love the book. I’m completely loyal to it. I was amazed at how the show writers seemed to feel the same way. They totally honored the book while updating and expanding on it. The themes are similar, but with some changes that help make it more impactful 30 years later and in a visual medium. Plus, Atwood is a consultant for the show.

      Atwood has said she’s interested in writing a sequel because she has more to say on current culture, but that’s not what the future seasons will be based on. They’ll be expanding past Offred’s experiences and hopefully more of the resistance.

    • Thiazin Red

      I have a very short list of adaptations that I think improve on the source material, its not something that happens very often.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      They did not fuck up the book. They stuck to the book but added some additional bits that provide background and allow them to show character development, all with Margaret Atwood’s assistance as a co-writer. It is a marvelous series. If you appreciated the book, you will appreciate the series even more because of the incredible cast and superb acting. Yes, there will be another season, which Atwood is also co-writing.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        The cast really is incredible.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          Yes, they are. My only complaint was that the cinematography is very dark in many scenes, as in very low lighting. I had to close the window blinds if I wanted to watch it during daylight hours, or else I couldn’t see what was going on in some very important scenes. I realize this was deliberate, to set a mood, but I think they might have gone a teeny bit too far with it.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            I never really noticed. But I also dislike the tendency to leave scenes very dark for mood or authenticity. I get it, but I want to see what’s happening!

          • Angela Ruzzo

            Well my TV is in my family room, which has 5 windows and a french door to a patio and faces the evening sun. In one episode (the nightclub) I had to lower all the blinds to see what the hell was going on. After that experience, I waited until it was dark to watch it. The low lighting was appropriate for the story line, but not if they take it so far you can’t see the actor’s faces.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            Kind of like watching reruns of X-Files. The first time through, I was focused on the plot and what was going on. In the reruns, I had that down, so didn’t have to focus on that. I found myself constantly screaming at my TV, “Turn on a damned light already!”

          • Angela Ruzzo

            There’s an age factor, too. I remember being a little girl and going into a nice restaurant with my parents, who were both in their late 40’s, the kind of restaurant with tablecloths and candles and people talking in hushed voices, and they complained that it was too dark in the restaurant to read the menu. I could read it just fine, and I thought “old people are really strange.” Now I am the one complaining that I can’t read the menu.

      • Rachel Book Harlot

        Is the first season the full book or is the second season the second half? Or is it a new part 2 altogether?

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          They covered all of the book material in season 1.

          • Rachel Book Harlot

            Oh, okay. Thanks, Astraea. :)

        • Explody Brain

          First season is full book. Second season will be new material.

      • Yr. Gma

        The book was a punch in the gut in 1985 North America, exposing what a danger the rise of Evangelical Christianity was at the time. Any “additional” things needed to “update” the story necessarily take away from the historical impact the book made in 1985. I don’t think that book needed any further character development. It was perfect at the time. If this new version is at all different from the book, it would diminish the impact for me. I’m not opposed to a series that looks at the way these themes might play out today, but that would be something different from the book I read in 1985. Not gonna watch it. Can’t make me.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          Just think how important it is to provide similar experiences to young women today, though. You don’t have to watch it, but you will always have your original experience of the book. Nothing can take that away.

          • Yr. Gma

            I’m not suggesting that anyone else should follow my example.

          • mancityRed6

            that, coincidentally, is my life quote

        • Angela Ruzzo

          The book did not need additional character development, but film versions of books almost always do. Much of the book was Offred’s thoughts, and a movie that is all narration is not very interesting. This adaptation was very good at using additional scenes and dialogue to minimize the narration. Yes, the series is slightly different from the book, but not in any way that changes the story or minimizes the impact, but only in ways that expand the action so that you know what the characters are thinking and feeling without them having to add a lot of narration. That is called good screen writing and good acting.

          • Yr. Gma

            I’m glad you enjoyed it.

          • Angela Ruzzo

            I am not sure “enjoyed” is the correct word. But I did have great appreciation for the production, which was superb. Episode 3 had me looking for my Bobbitt knife and I had to take a pill to calm down and go to sleep. This is good…that’s what it was supposed to do.

      • OutOfOrbit

        Going from A&E Nero Wolfe to Rex Stout’s writing was smooth & seamless* for me. But First Fans of the books generally hated the A&E characters.
        (*A&E’s Archie was not the line-backer build like the books.)
        I had the same experience with Lomgmire.

        • Angela Ruzzo

          I wonder how many people under 30 realize that 40 years ago A&E programming focused almost exclusively on literate and historical BBC productions and other arts and educational programs. The first time I watched it in 1979 they were showing the series “The Duchess of Duke Street.” in 1990 I greatly enjoyed the San Francisco Ballet production of “The Nutcracker” on A&E. I canceled cable in 2000 and went back to it in 2006 and they had changed their programming completely. They should change the name, because it’s not A&E anymore.

    • OutOfOrbit

      Backwards often works backwards for me: see adaptation, then read the book, liked adaptation better. FE, the movie ending of Hunt For Red October was better than the book.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        Backwards works for me too, as long as the casting in the adaptation was good, otherwise I keep seeing the face and hearing the voice of the bad actors while I’m reading the book. But that doesn’t happen often.

    • jesterpunk

      That is the reason I refuse to watch the hobbit or LOTR movies. I loved the books as a kid and remember my dad reading us the books as really young kids.

      • mancityRed6

        I did the movies first and was able to keep the books separate, because they aren’t beautifully written.

        • jesterpunk

          He had the original first hardcover printing that came with the maps of everything and showed the path they took and what was around it. As a kid that was really awesome to see that while you are hearing someone read the story to you.

          • mancityRed6

            pfft, I would probably pay someone to read to me now. I got so used to it when I was growing up.

  • Anna Elizabeth

    OK, that video was pretty funny. xD

  • Picabo

    Just started this book. The whole country was high, including Hitler. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64985f92daaae6378c18610efe6ff3644ff3bf3cc96fde42bf440cde4a302afd.jpg

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Of course they were.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      I’ve heard the Waffen-SS issued Dexadrine as standard.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Speed has a way of bringing out the total prick in a person.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          It would also explain how they kept on the line at battles such as first and second Kharkov.

      • Picabo

        So far I see Pervitin. Looks like meth in pill form.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          Yikes. Ima put this book on my wish list, it would explain a lot of things.

          • Picabo

            Just found out what a Seehund was. From the book, “Soon most of them would drown wretchedly, like kittens in a sack.”

          • Anna Elizabeth

            The Minisub? Crazy, crazy things.

        • Raan

          Pretty much. Hitler was basically Tuco Salamanca.

          • therblig

            Reiching Rad?

          • Raan

            Featuring Einstein as the scientist who eventually fucks up a cartel.

    • mancityRed6

      1938 wasn’t that far removed from when cocaine was a tooth pain medication and heroin was used for a cough.

      • tomamitai

        Didn’t the U.S. put meth in combat rations during WWII?

        • mancityRed6

          I know they got some lucky strikes…maybe the speed was for pilots.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I think they still issue Dexedrine for long flights.

          • mancityRed6

            back in ’97, I was working two full time jobs thanks to a little bottle of “energy now” from wally world. basically ephedrine pills. you can’t get those anymore for some reason.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I wonder why? /s

          • yyyaz

            Modafinil has replaced Dexedrine as the USAF “go” drug. Canada also gives Modafinil to ISS astronauts.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            OK, thank you. I’ll have to look that drug up, I hadn’t heard of it.

          • yyyaz

            I had it prescribed for more than a year, but when my (good) doctor left private practice, his replacements, both NPs, were too chickenshit to renew my script. Assholes.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I’m sorry. I looked it up, it seems like a much better choice than Dexedrine.

    • BadKitty904

      A cousin of mine works for the publisher. She says it’s been rather a surprise seller…

  • Villago Delenda Est

    The red pill idiots are idiots.

    Film at 11.

    • Blackest Noobs

      huh what’s the red pill thing? just more cowardly men being fucking cowards?

      O/T but kinda on topic: when i was hunkering down in a ditch in Kuwait as the Air Force boys were laying it thick on Saddam and his goons i certainly wasn’t thinking you know what….when i get back to the States, im gonna be a big man-baby and say women are taking away my man-ness….i think me being in this ditch and the four bullet holes scars in my chest proved that over and over already…my manly-ness that is or not….i dunno (<—-ok wasn't thinking that, was actually thinking ok boys don't drop one them smart bombs on me)

      • mancityRed6

        the red pill thing?
        they co opted a theme from three movies written by trans females (don’t hurt me if I got that wrong), the Matrix. but if you remind them of that they get all kinds of pissy.

      • Ω cynmac will never surrender

        It’s a documentary too, available on Amazon Prime, where the female director drinks the kool-aid and defends the alt-right. I could not watch it.

  • 3FingerPete

    Did you ever wish you and your video camera were present at the inception of the American independence movement? That moment when a Sons of Liberty member first suggested “Maybe it would be a great idea to throw all that tea into Boston Harbor”, and then crowd funded the idea to see if he could make a quick buck and free trip to Boston out of it. Well, buddy, we have the next best thing.

    Also, confirmation that Shakespeare In The Park was definitely going to kill Laura Loomer in jail but was foiled by the quick action of Jack Posobiec.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Iq1Gz3f8c

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    Nice quote time.

    “Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.”– David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas

    • Anna Elizabeth

      “Tolerance implies no lack of commitment to one’s own beliefs. Rather it condemns the oppression or persecution of others.”

      John F. Kennedy

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        “Nolite te bastardes carborundorum, bitches.”

        • Anna Elizabeth

          xD

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      “I have to remind myself that some birds aren’t meant to be caged. Their
      feathers are just too bright. And when they fly away, the part of you
      that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoice. Still, the place
      you live in is that much more drab and empty that they’re gone. I guess I
      just miss my friend.”– Stephen King, Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption

      • Anna Elizabeth

        “In this galaxy, there’s a mathematical probability of three million earth-type planets… and in all the universe, three million million galaxies like this one. And in all of that, and perhaps more, only one of each of us. Don’t destroy the one named Kirk.”

        – McCoy’s advice to Kirk
        TOS “Balance of Terror”

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          “No one really runs away from anything. It’s like a private trap that
          holds us in like a prison. You know what I think? I think that we’re all
          in our private traps, clamped in them, and none of us can ever get out.
          We scratch and we claw, but only at the air, only at each other, and
          for all of it, we never budge an inch.” Robert Bloch, Psycho

      • Raan

        “To this day, I have no idea what that woman was singing about. Like, literally, no idea. I don’t know what a ‘Hollaback Girl’ is, but I have to imagine it’s a foul, disease-ridden thing, that wears too much makeup to cover up the fact that it’s a 47 year-old fish-dog.” – Cleveland Brown as Red, Family Guy: Three Kings

    • Raan

      “I’m doing what’s right for the galaxy by calling you, so if we come back to Earth, can my family have a normal life? […] I’m Jerry Smith, and I love sucking big, sweaty [bleep] and licking disgusting furry testicle sacks.” – Rick Sanchez, The Wedding Squanchers

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        “Well then get your shit together, get it all together and put it in a back pack, all your shit, so it’s together. And if you gotta take it some where, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in the shit museum. I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together. Get your shit together.” Morty Smith– Big Trouble in Little Sanchez

        • Raan

          “On one of our adventures, Rick and I basically destroyed the whole world, so we bailed on that reality and we came to this one, because in this one, the world wasn’t destroyed and in this one, we were dead. So we came here, a- a- and we buried ourselves and we took their place. And every morning, Summer, I eat breakfast twenty yards away from my own rotting corpse. […] I’m better than your brother. I’m a version of your brother you can trust when he says “Don’t run.” Nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody’s gonna die. Come watch TV.” – Morty Smith, Rixty Minutes

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        “Everyone has a plumbus in their home. First they take the dingle bop and they smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then repurposed for later batches.

        They take the dingle bop and they push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it. It’s important that the fleeb is rubbed, becasue the fleeb has all the fleeb juice.

        Then, a schlami shows up, and he rubs it…and spits on it.

        They cut the fleeb. There’s several hizzards in the way.

        The blamfs rub against the chumbles, and the…plubis, and grumbo are shaved away.

        That leaves you with…a regular old plumbus.”– Announcer, Interdimensional Cable 2: Tempting Fate

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Ah. Picked the book up for two dollars at a library sale. Hadn’t seen the movie yet, but was curious what all the hype was about. Great book. Was subsequently impressed by the flick. Mitchell was part of the film production as well.

  • BadKitty904
  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Trump voters and Alex Jones explained?

    Twenty percent of 2,164 baby foods sampled between 2003 and 2013 by the Food and Drug Administration tested positive for lead, according to an analysis released Thursday by the nonprofit advocacy group, the Environmental Defense Fund.

    None dare call it a conspiracy.

    The products most often found to contain lead were fruit juices, root vegetable-based foods, and certain cookies, such as teething biscuits, the EDF reports. Oddly, the presence of lead was more common in baby foods than in the same foods marketed for adults. For instance, only 25 percent of regular apple juice tested positive for lead, while 55 percent of apple juices marketed for babies contained lead. Overall, only 14 percent of adult foods tested contained lead.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/watchdog-report-finds-alarming-20-of-baby-food-tested-contains-lead/

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    “O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,

    And men have lost their reason.”– Actual Shakespeare, Actual Julius Caesar.

    It’s like RWNJ’s don’t understand beauty.

    • Wild Cat

      You’ll find more culture on cheese than on an American fascist.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Now THAT is a great quote!

    • 3FingerPete

      “The best lack all conviction, while the worst
      Are full of passionate intensity.”
      -W.B. Yeats

  • Wild Cat

    I don’t watch the news. Has the US Navy, which has collected welfare from me for over four decades now, won its battle vs. a commercial hunk of tin?

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    It’s really hot and dry here right now… a woodworking machine like a surface planer can build up a static charge that will knock you into next week if you aren’t careful. I could use one of these Red Pill asswipes around the shop to take jolt for me. Good times.

  • Canned Covfefe
  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    “What you gonna do? Bury them down here with all the other relics of
    what… once… was? Let me tell you what else. Yeah, I’m gonna tell you
    what else. You ain’t never gonna figure it out, just like they never
    figured out why the stars are where they’re at. It ain’t mankind’s job
    to figure that stuff out. So what you’re doing is a waste of time,
    Sarah. And time is all we got left, you know.”– John, Day of the Dead

  • Three Finger Salute

    I prefer my viewing habits to be escapist. Far too many dystopian titles have veered into the realm of nonfiction/documentary at this point.

    I’m convinced Canadian Bacon and the South Park movie will be next.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      War with Canada isn’t really that absurd these days. I hope Canada wins.

      • Predisenting Ron

        We’ll be waiting at the border with Timbits and coffee and pretty girls from Montreal. Your boys won’t stand a chance.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          Good! Give us what for, we deserve it.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          I welcome our Justin ruled brethren Overlords from the North

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            As do I!

          • Rachel Book Harlot

            The North remembers.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            All we ask is that y’all don’t burn down the White House … we might want to let that nice black fella and his wife live there again …

          • I think Michelle would cheer us on

      • Anna Elizabeth

        Canadian soldiers are as tough as nails. In the Great War, Germany rated *every* Canadian soldier as Sturmtruppen and believed Canadians were immune to cold and to *gas*.

        • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

          The history teacher in high school told us that Germans were afraid of French Canadian soldiers because all their swear words are church-related (Tabarnak = tabernacle, etc.), so the Germans assumed they were religious fanatics.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            That’s cool!

        • Three Finger Salute

          Talbot Papineau with the Trojan Jack Russell.

          https://anonimag.es/i/trudeaudog7794b.jpg

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Nice!

      • Blackest Noobs

        Canada would win because dumbfucks in the U.S. underestimates the Canucks.
        and p.s. Wolverine a.k.a. Logan is Canadian.

    • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

      Me too. I haven’t been able to watch The Handmaid’s Tale or The Man in the High Castle, though I’ve read both books. Too uncomfortably close to our reality.

  • Rachel Book Harlot
  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    “All people are insane. They will do anything at any time, and God help anybody who looks for reasons.” — Kurt Vonnegut, Mother Night

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Saturday Night Live did it better.

  • bluicebank

    My rule of thumb is to avoid all things popular until at least a year after it’s done. There are exceptions, like liking the internet before it was a thing, or jumping on the GoT bandwagon just because I knew Sean Bean was going to die horribly.

    So very sorry, but the title “Handmaid’s Tale” put me off because I’m not into indentured service or whatever the story is about. I’ll watch it later when it’s not a thing.

    Elsewhere, SoCal is baking under its first heat wave. I must be getting old. It used to be I didn’t bitch until it went over 115 Fahrenheit, which is 319 Kelvin for you science peeps. But today at 101 (forecast to hit 110 next week), I’m like oh Lord how have I offended thee?

    • Bec Jenn

      Phoenix is baking too. 109 not so bad, but we’re looking forward to 120F on Tuesday. Blech!

      • bluicebank

        It’ll get there down the hill in the Coachella Valley. Old timers say when it hits 120 or above, birds start dropping from the sky and planes can’t take off.

        • Predisenting Ron

          Quite often they can’t. Hot air is less dense so there’s less lift available, and if the runway’s short even full flaps won’t give you enough lift soon enough to get up in the air.

          • Ill_Used_Floppy_Disk

            I lived in south central British Columbia for a few years and I remember the tanker planes during fire season circling the entire valley after take off, trying to gain enough altitude to get to the fire.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      It’s about indentured service the way Fahrenheit 451 is about firefighting.

      • bluicebank

        lol

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    “Don’t talk like one of them. You’re not! Even if you’d like to be. To
    them, you’re just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when
    they don’t, they’ll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals,
    their code, it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble.
    They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. I’ll show you. When
    the chips are down, these… these civilized people, they’ll eat each
    other. See, I’m not a monster. I’m just ahead of the curve.”– The Joker, The Dark Knight

    • Anna Elizabeth

      “Attention all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, this is Steve Rogers. You’ve heard a lot about me over the last few days. Some of you were even ordered to hunt me down. But I think it’s time to tell the truth.

      S.H.I.E.L.D. is not what we thought it was. It’s been taken over by HYDRA. Alexander Pierce is their leader. The S.T.R.I.K.E. and Insight crew are HYDRA as well. I don’t know how many more, but I know they’re in the building. They could be standing right next to you. They almost have what they want. Absolute control. They shot Nick Fury. And it won’t end there. If you launch those helicarriers today, HYDRA will be able to kill anyone that stands in their way.

      Unless we stop them. I know I’m asking a lot. But the price of freedom is high. It always has been. And it’s a price I’m willing to pay. And if I’m the only one, then so be it. But I’m willing to bet I’m not. ”

      – Captain America, The Winter Soldier

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        “Always the same, and now all this. No more stones. No more spears. No
        more slings. No more swords. No more weapons! No more systems! No more!
        No more superpowers… So much faith in their tools, in their machines.
        You can fire your arrows from the Tower of Babel, but you can never
        strike god!”– Apocalypse– X-Men: Apocalypse

        This is really fun, by the way. I haven’t had a chance to just spout off quotes I know in ages.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          xD I love it too.

          Chancellor Gorkon: You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon.

          General Chang: “taH pagh, taH be?”

          Star Trek 6

          • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

            “Everything is true. God’s an Astronaut. Oz is Over the Rainbow, and Midian is where the monsters live.”– Peloquin, Nightbreed

          • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

            “Remember, kid, there’s heroes and there’s legends. Heroes get
            remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you’ll never go wrong.” – Babe Ruth, The Sandlot

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      “”Let me give you one last word of advice: give up your evil ways! When you’ve paid your debt to society, and pay it you will, start life anew as a respectable citizen!” – Batman (1966 Series), “Give ’em the Axe”

      • therblig

        “Don’t be so gloomy. After all it’s not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love – they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly.” — Harry Lime, The Third Man

    • Celtic_Gnome

      “Donnie! Got a Kraut soldier out here who wants to die for his country. Oblige him.”

      Lt. Aldo Raine, Inglorious Basterds

  • jesterpunk

    Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others
    from around the world. And you will be launching the largest aerial
    battle in the history of mankind. “Mankind.” That word should have new
    meaning for all of us today. We can’t be consumed by our petty
    differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps
    it’s fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be
    fighting for our freedom… Not from tyranny, oppression, or
    persecution… but from annihilation. We are fighting for our right to
    live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no
    longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day the world
    declared in one voice: “We will not go quietly into the night!” We will
    not vanish without a fight! We’re going to live on! We’re going to
    survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!

    President Thomas Whitmore: Independence Day.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      Captain Steven Hiller: Didn’t I promise you fireworks?

      Dylan Dubrow: Yeah.

    • TJ Barke

      Makes me all tingly every time.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      “Y’know, this was supposed to be my weekend off. But no! You got me out
      here, draggin’ your heavy ass, through the burnin’ desert, with your
      dreadlocks stickin’ out the back of my parachute. You gotta come down
      here with an attitude, actin’ all big and bad. And what the hell is that
      smell
      ?! [screams and kicks the alien] I could’ve been at a barbecue! But I ain’t mad.”

    • Roland Emerich has another ridiculous science exaggeration movie coming out at the end of the year. It looks deranged and i can’t wait to see it and laugh inappropriately in the theatre

  • bookish

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/uw-professor-the-information-war-is-real-and-were-losing-it/

    “After every mass shooting, dozens of them, there would be these strange clusters of activity,” Starbird says. “It was so fringe we kind of laughed at it.

    “That was a terrible mistake. We should have been studying it.”

    Starbird is in the field of “crisis informatics,” or how information flows after a disaster. She got into it to see how social media might be used for the public good, such as to aid emergency responders.

    Instead she’s gone down a dark rabbit hole, one that wends through the back warrens of the web and all the way up to the White House.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      as usual, the comments are hilariously awful.

  • Swampgas_Man

    I actually walked to the library halfway across town, and was rewarded with a new Lovejoy (the antique dealer) book by Jonathan Gash. Much more pleasant than the Handmaid’s Tale.

  • Rachel Book Harlot

    And now for something nice:

    Dog caught eating paper decides to leave no witnesses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E_pKrL9O8M

    • Sophia

      Must be the 3rd strike rule coming into effect.

      • weejee

        Why does dRumpf get twenty-two-teen?

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      that was hilarious.

  • I had to buy bus tickets on my way home today, and the bulk store that sells bus tickets in the mall near me was having a sidewalk sale. I scored a BBQ stir fry pan for under 10 bucks!

    • Anna Elizabeth

      Nice! I got some Watermelon Cucumber Lemonade on sale, and it is divine. :)

      • I picked up an herbal fruit infusion called Frozen Raspberry about a week ago, it brews up like tea, and on ice it is stupidly delcious. Also, is SUPER dark red in a clear tumbler, so i have taken to calling it the blood of my enemies.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          OOOh, I wonder if I can get that here?

          • It’s from David’s tea, and they have an American website

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Thank you. :) I’ll look.

          • They have many tasty things. I am excited when i only spend $30 bucks

          • Anna Elizabeth

            It is a great site, I’ll get some when I can, thanx. :)

          • I also recommend their Electric Lemonade. It’s tea that makes my brain go “ding!”

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Cool, thank you. I’ve given up coffee, I think I can splurge on some lovely tea pretty soon.

          • Both of these are good iced and hot. I have david’s iced tea press tumbler. I love it and keep a bag of ice in the freezer at work

          • Anna Elizabeth

            That’s even better, it’s 105F here today.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          But no Land Rover?

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          I love that.

  • janecita

    Are we already allowed to talk about the last episode of “The Handmaid’s Tale?”

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Nope. The rule is 30 days.

      But Ho.Lee.Shit.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        No one will care in 30 days!

      • janecita

        Fuck! It was so good!!!

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          I loved it toooooooo!

          • janecita

            Serena is such an evil bitch!

          • WomanInThePersistence

            No kidding. Not dropping any spoilers, but that was such an asshole move.

          • janecita

            And so well acted!

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            And that slap, jesus.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Astonishing! I rarely like adaptations, but this is amazing.

      • janecita

        It’s even better than the book. I like all the back stories.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          I could theorize forever on some of the changes they’ve made. Offred’s total isolation and the way the Handmaids act with each other works very well for the mood and themes of the book, but would have been difficult to maintain over a multi-season TV show. And I think that the themes of collective action and solidarity are more important to the current audience.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        It’s beautiful. And even Rory Gilmore is putting out a stellar performance. And I’d like to shoot Fred Waterford into the sun after a not-quite-fatal stoning.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          It’s very well acted.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Trump’s gone into isolation at Camp David. No appointments on his schedule until Monday.

    • jesterpunk

      Low energy!!! SAD!!!

    • Predisenting Ron

      Is there anyway we can make it a Monday in 2021?

      • vivian

        umm, howzabout 2120?

    • So…how tranqed is he?

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        carfentail.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Covfentanyl

      • Predisenting Ron

        The ghost of Keith Moon is saying, ‘Fuck, even I never took five of those at once.’

      • TJ Barke

        Not enough.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Presidenting is soooo hard.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Zero bars on his twit phone?

      • Bitter Scribe

        His staff should be so lucky.

    • BadKitty904

      I wasn’t aware there’s a golf course at Camp David.

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution
      • Le Covfefe Royal

        Do they make hooded sweatshirts in XXXL?

  • janecita

    In my next life, I’m going to be Iranian, I love their food!

    • Bitter Scribe

      Middle Eastern food in general is great when it’s cooked right. Just around the corner from my place there’s a restaurant in a gas station (!) run by a Syrian family that turns out mouthwatering falafel and dolmas.

      • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

        We have a huge Middle Eastern population here in L.A., in particular Iranians who fled back in the 1980s, and the food is fantastic!!!

        • Lori

          I miss Middle Eastern food so much. Almost as much as I miss the taco truck.

          I appreciated the food in LA when I lived there, but not as much as I appreciate it now that I’m stuck a flavor desert.

          • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

            Where are you??? I know, the food in L.A. is spectacular. We have literally hundreds of different cultures, and their cuisines, represented here. Just a short drive down Sunset Blvd in Hollywood/Echo Park takes you past dozens and dozens of neighborhoods and dozens and dozens of cuisines. I love it!

          • Lori

            Now I’m in northeastern Indiana. Before this I was in DC and before that I lived in the San Gabriel Valley for years. There was a lot about the LA area that I didn’t like, but the food was so, so good. I had favorite places to get kinds of food that no one around here as ever even heard of. I miss it all the time.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            Northeastern Indiana? So, exotic cuisine there is Tim Horton’s, right?

          • Lori

            The closest Tim Horton’s is an hour a way, and it just opened some this year.

    • Le Covfefe Royal

      Then come to West LA. It’s just like Tehran, but without the theocracy.

      • janecita

        I might just have to. I’m the only one making Persian food around here, and I’m Cuban!

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I had an Iranian housemate when I was in school. His mom stayed with us for a month. Best food ever!

      • janecita

        You are so lucky!

  • bookish

    Eric Lipton @EricLiptonNYT
    ·
    Jun 15

    Trump Era Moment: EPA’s Scott Pruitt, with 45 CEOs of largest oil and gas companies in the USA for private briefing. Profits, to Trump Hotel
    Embedded

  • jesterpunk

    So tourism that makes people in Cuba money is bad and tourism that makes businesses money is good for Trump.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trumps-cuba-policy-tries-to-redefine-good-us-tourism-it-might-be-just-what-the-islands-rulers-want-too/2017/06/17/67fab65e-504f-11e7-b74e-0d2785d3083d_story.html

    The Trump plan, announced Friday in Miami’s Little Havana neighborhood,
    asserts that the Obama-era rules facilitated what the White House called
    “illegal” tourism by allowing U.S. travelers to rent rooms in Cuban
    homes through sites such as Airbnb.

    Americans will generally still be allowed to visit Cuba if they come on cruise ships,
    for instance, or book with U.S.- approved tour agencies that ensure
    travel itineraries do not include too much unstructured time.

    • Predisenting Ron

      ‘Cuba is a Godless Communist dictatorship where everyone’s freedoms are heavily curtailed!
      ‘All right, on to our schedule.
      ‘8:00 wake up.
      ‘8:03 use toilet
      ‘8:07 brush teeth…’

    • Nockular cavity

      Sorry to yell, but WHAT THE FUCK IS ILLEGAL TOURISM???

      Oh, and now if we visit communist countries, WE’RE going to insist we have minders?

      • jesterpunk

        Illegal tourism is using things like Airbnb or going on a tour not provided by a company that makes money off of it.

      • IdiokraticDrumpfenResistance

        When you visit a country and fail to stay at a Trump hotel/resort?

      • Yr. Gma

        That’s when you go to Disneyland and jump over the fence instead of paying admission. (Right before you get arrested and/or shot.)

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      I’m almost 100% sure it has to do with him wanting to stop other hotels from making money until he can get his own hotels built there.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Personally, I’m waiting for the game.

    • Settlers of Catan? Scrabble? Exploding Bunnies?

      • Predisenting Ron

        F.A.T.A.L.

      • mancityRed6

        I want the cat card game…and friends to play it with.

        • Jan_in_the_pan

          Meow?

        • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

          Exploding Kittens or Kittens In A Blender?

          • mancityRed6

            yes
            and uno

          • Dude. I have Monty Python Fluxx. You’ll love it

          • mancityRed6

            i don’t care what’s on the table so long as I can understand the rules

          • Ah. There’s the rub. In Fluxx, each new card changes the rules. And sometimes there’s singing

          • mancityRed6

            *rubs chin*
            hmmm, does alcohol help? how close is the nearest Horton’s? I really need to get my passport renewed.

    • redarmyzombie

      Which, FYI, I have now lost.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      wait, why is there a goddamn coffin in their yard?

      • The Green Bastard

        Steak coffin.

        • Indeed. A very nice steak coffin

          • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

            what is a steak coffin?

          • mancityRed6

            a grill

          • Lori

            A very nice, very pricey bbq grill. They either give big parties or they both eat a lot because that model is huge.

    • Three Finger Salute

      I was at Best Buy the other day to pick up an external storage drive and an extra battery for my camera. (I don’t iPhone.)

      I saw the cutest Wonder Woman socks on display with a bunch of other comic book related stuff, and all I could think of was “Yup, Justin Trudeau probably has these.”

      Whether he does or not, if he were to wear them at an event, it’d probably ignite the U.S.-Canadian War because the Drumpfenfuhrer SS can’t handle equality.

      Mr. Wonder Man probably got the shirt on Etsy, I’m guessing? Or maybe he screen printed it himself. Someone ought to caption it with the “This is what a feminist looks like” meme.

  • CATMAN

    I just finished reading It Can’t Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis–it’s not an easy read with all the 1930’s references but it is scary as hell and far too close for comfort to what is happening today

    • Bitter Scribe

      Yeah, it’s very realistic, if you can get past the notion that Roosevelt could have been defeated for the Democratic nomination in 1936

      • Predisenting Ron

        After the events of last year I can’t imagine ANYTHING being out of the realm of probability any more.

        • Lori

          I can think of a bunch of stuff that’s out of the realm of the possible. A reasonable Republican candidate for major office. An election without voter suppression. A female candidate treated like her male opponent instead of being subjected to a tidal wave of misogynist bullshit.

      • Le Covfefe Royal

        The Literary Digest poll predicted a huge victory for Alf Landon.

        • Bitter Scribe

          I guess that’s why they weren’t the Political Digest.

    • therblig

      my rwnj co-worker would make a perfect Shad Ladue. lots of pent up anger over his lot in life, and plenty of other people to blame.

    • Ryan Denniston

      I knew we’d live after reading that book and seeing our Preznit Windrip wannabe trip over hiss ass with the travel ban.

      • CATMAN

        I’m not so sure after seeing a Bikers for Trump guy on TV almost weeping when he said “Why are they persecuting him, he hasn’t done anything wrong”

        • Lori

          Oh, FFS. I’m not sure which part of that is the most ridiculous.

  • bookish
  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    The personal AOL email account that Vice President Mike Pence used to conduct official state business as governor is costing the State of Indiana $100,000 to clear a backlog of public records requests.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      “Last spring, Pence’s AOL account was compromised by a “phishing” scheme.

      “Pence’s contacts were sent an email falsely claiming that the governor and his wife were stranded in the Philippines and needed money,” the AP recalled. “The hacking of Pence’s private emails led some to raise questions of hypocrisy after he frequently attacked Clinton on the campaign trail, arguing that she could have jeopardized national security if her emails got into the wrong hands.”

      After the hacking of then-Governor Pence’s AOL account last spring, Governor Pence upgraded to a different AOL email address.

      Pence spokesman Marc Lotter has claimed that Pence stopped using AOL, once known as America On Line, since being sworn in as vice-president.”

      • jesterpunk

        Also IOKIYAR too.

      • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

        He should have stood up a private server. That shit don’t happen when you have professionals taking care of your email.

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          Yes, yes, FOR FUCK’S SAKE, YESSSSSSS. It always sets my blood boiling, that the so-called “email scandal” was basically a smart, tough woman making a decision to KEEP STATE DEPARTMENT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION MORE SECURE. Sorry for the capslock. I have lately come to think that this was actually WHY they attacked her so relentlessly–they couldn’t hack her server–she was protecting herself against THEM.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        AOL->AOL is not an upgrade. Due to the opportunity cost of not switching to something better, it’s not even a lateral move.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        He moved over to Yahoo!

        • Three Finger Salute

          Worse. He borrowed Mother’s CompuServe account.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Her account ID? 74666,666

      • Jennifer R

        Changing to a different aol address isn’t upgrading. In 2015 that wouldn’t even be a side grade.

    • therblig
      • Three Finger Salute

        You can’t go back to 1993 either.

      • Yr. Gma

        Ahh, good times.

  • tehbaddr

    Ok so it’s just a small percent. But it is exemplary, and when expanded to something just a bit less ridiculous. You get president Trump!

    http://bangordailynews.com/2017/06/16/news/nation/a-surprising-number-of-american-adults-think-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows/

    • mancityRed6

      if you did a Venn diagram of the same people who think the moon landing was faked, Buzz Aldrin would spend a whole lot of time punching.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OROlF8zB9z0

    • Doug Langley

      But they did know potato chips come from Pringle trees, right?

  • MCA

    Shaken to your strong masculine core. That’s some funny shit.

  • mancityRed6

    89 feeling like 100, but the clouds are rolling in. I promised Karl
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6f6b70d65d74c956ac4a1011eeef5c451c8908e434a0e7a806cf3e484f87bc50.jpg
    I would let him out on the balcony when it starts raining.

    • Shanzgood 20 Days

      91/108 here. It better rain soon.

    • Wellstone En Resistencia, Coño

      97 feeling like 105 and I’m about to head out to the park for my four-mile walk. It’s gonna be tough but it must be done.

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      God damn heat wave in L.A. and it’s in the 90s-100s for the foreseeable future for NO GOOD REASON AT ALL. Damn I have to move to the coast.

      • Le Covfefe Royal

        Head for the beach if you can. It’s 79 in Laguna. The difference a few miles makes.

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          On days like this I always think of moving South. Laguna has such a lovely climate–my parents took us there every summer, back in the day when it was a sleepy art village. Such a pretty place! Do you live in actual Laguna? Had a friend who lived in Aliso Viejo, I think, and another in Laguna Niguel–trying to persuade my brother to give up the terrible girlfriend up north and move there where I really know he’d be so much happier.

          • Le Covfefe Royal

            I’m actually in Central OC, but I wish I lived in Laguna Beach!

      • Yr. Gma

        Still 97 here on the mountain. Used to be people from LA drove to the San Bernardino Mts to cool off.

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          Ugh, even on the mountain! But the parts where there isn’t endless seas of concrete, at least, are cooler if I remember.

    • Jennifer R

      103 today 109 tomorrow. Fuck Sacramento.

    • Lori

      It only got to 88/91 today, which is a huge improvement the 94/115 we had earlier in the week, but we’re still in desperate need of rain. It keeps clouding up, but then nothing happens. They originally promised us rain tonight, but now it’s looking like it’s not going to happen.

      • mancityRed6

        I’m outside, waiting….

        • Lori

          I even washed the car today and still not one drop. It’s getting depressing.

          • mancityRed6

            well, at least now we know who to blame. you and your land rover range rover.

          • Lori

            Yup. I’m proof that money can’t buy happiness. I have all that sweet Google cash, but it can’t buy rain :)

  • Shanzgood 20 Days

    Tasering the manspreader made my day.

  • Ryan Denniston

    I didn’t watch because it was not on network. Because I am an old.

    • Shanzgood 20 Days

      I got a Roku device for $30 and have a Hulu subscription for about $7.99/month. Roku plugs into the TV and accesses the wifi to get the Hulu over teh Intarwebz (and Netflix and others).

      • Ω cynmac will never surrender

        I have a Roku and a Chromecast. I took the Chromecast to my parents’ over Memorial Day so I could watch War Machine on Netflix. My dad was fascinated but not enough to get one for himself.

        • Shanzgood 20 Days

          I had to get my son to help me set mine up. Maybe that’s why your dad didn’t pursue it.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Nope. It was the money. Penny wise and Pound foolish. Pays out the ass for AT&T Uverse but balked at $35 for a Chromecast and $8.99/month for Netflix.

          • Shanzgood 20 Days

            Dang. I don’t have cable and got the Roku so I can watch my Netflix and Hulu and all on my bedroom TV when my daughter has commandeered the living room TV.

    • Kakariki

      Most Blu-ray players now come with built-in Wi-Fi and services like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime and YouTube installed. So you can use it for viewing those services on your TV as well as for Blu-ray discs & DVD’s….and image & music files from flash drives.

      I paid about $60 for a player and use it for all the pay services and don’t really need cable anymore, but still have it because my roommate is also an old.

  • Picabo

    Gun Fail is posted on Daily Kos. I’m on my phone so can’t provide a link. The stupid is extra stupid this week.

    • mancityRed6

      this?
      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/2/1658223/-SC-Ofc-Michael-Slager-pleading-guilty-to-federal-charges-today-possible-Life-Sentence
      “Michael Slager, former SC officer who shot Walter Scott, pleading guilty in Federal Court today.”
      finally, justice

      • Picabo

        No. Gun Fail.

        • mancityRed6

          that’s what came up when I googled…oh, I see what you did there

          • Picabo

            Go to Daily Kos front page. You will find it there.

          • mancityRed6

            this?
            http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/14/1652695/-I-wonder-what-would-happen-if-we-all-went-turkey-hunting-disguised-as-turkeys-GunFAIL-CCXLI
            “A fairly typical week, by the numbers. Sixteen people accidentally shot themselves, eleven people were killed in gun accidents, nine kids were accidentally shot, six people accidentally fired guns they claimed they were cleaning or otherwise “inspecting,” four people were accidentally shot during their target practice (one more just couldn’t wait to get to the range, and was accidentally shot in the car on the way there), four people accidentally fired their weapons into neighboring properties (plus one more incident in which a passerby in golf cart was struck by a stray round), three people accidentally shot family members or significant others, and two people accidentally fired their weapons while shopping at neighborhood Walmart stores.”

          • Picabo

            Yes.

          • jesterpunk

            So what your saying is they where not good guys with guns since they couldn’t take a hot injection of freedumbs?

    • Jennifer R

      I keep waiting for my ex in TN to end up on it.

  • mancityRed6

    it’s hot out and I am sweaty and really kinda regretting the whole summer mustache thing.

    • Shanzgood 20 Days

      Yeah, I’m thinking of getting rid of mine as well.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Mustaches make breakfast last longer, also other meals.

      • mancityRed6

        in this heat, its like a damn sponge

  • jesterpunk

    Betsy Devos and the Trump administration are now doing more to help LGBT individuals.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/education-dept-closes-transgender-student-cases-as-it-pushes-to-scale-back-civil-rights-investigations/2017/06/17/08e10de2-5367-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html

    The Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights this week closed a
    long-running discrimination case involving a transgender student and
    withdrew its earlier findings that the girl had suffered discrimination
    at school, a move that comes amid the Trump administration’s push to
    scale back civil rights investigations in public schools.

    The agency communicated its decision in a letter this week to lawyers
    representing the girl, an elementary school student in Highland, Ohio.
    The letter provided no reason or legal justification for withdrawing its
    2016 conclusion that the girl’s school wrongly barred her from the
    girls’ bathroom and failed to address the harassment she endured from
    classmates and teachers, who repeatedly addressed her with male pronouns
    and the male name she was given at birth.

    • GreenGoldSharpie

      But he held a pride flag once.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        But her emails, also too….

      • Three Finger Salute

        He only takes pride in himself.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      This just in…Education Department orders fleet of new buses…not for transporting students, but to have something to throw them under…

      • Three Finger Salute

        For transporting the students, they ordered a bunch of trains. Also, some nice pink triangles to sew on their uniforms en route to “vocational school”.

        • Ω cynmac will never surrender

          Internships, unpaid of course.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Internships Macht Frei.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Meanwhile, in a nicer country:

      http://montrealsimon.blogspot.ca/2017/06/lgbt-rights-and-trudeau-legacy.html

      After fighting for years for their human rights, and having to endure the most disgusting discrimination and violence, this was a good week for transgendered Canadians.

      A few days ago at a ceremony to mark Pride Month, they saw their flag raised on Parliament Hill for the first time.

      And yesterday they finally got their transgender bill of rights.

      Transgender Canadians will soon have the same human rights protections as everyone else, after the government’s attempt to add gender identity to the
      Canadian Human Rights Act passed in the Senate Thursday afternoon.

      And for both of those things they can thank Justin Trudeau.

      This must have been what East Germans felt like yearning for freedom and civilization on the other side of the border.

      • jesterpunk

        Sigh, remember a few months ago when we had a president who cared about people? Can we go back to that or let Canada or the UK have this country?

        • Three Finger Salute

          I don’t think they want us. It’d be like if a relative of yours died and you were super-pumped to learn that you’d inherited the house — only to find out that the place is an eyesore and the relative was a hoarder.

  • Michael R
    • Thiazin Red

      The loveseat is a pointless piece of furniture. Too small for more than one person, even people who like each other don’t want to be smashed together. Its also too small for one person to stretch out on, but too big to curl up in. Arm chair or sofa is the way to go, loveseat is a piece that serves neither function.

      • Michael R

        Is this a no to my invitation ?

  • HazooToo
    • jesterpunk

      You mean grifters gonna grift?

      • HazooToo

        How do you even deal with an asshole who’s projecting their own intentions onto you? Constantly. With no fucking proof.

        • jesterpunk

          If you ask voters they vote them into office as republicans? But other then that no idea, you cant win an argument with them and cant walk away.

  • notaten

    It’s a little bit on the warm side here today. Howzit by you all?
    https ://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8200d51af37c694b74ce53e9fda214fbe2d9527bc6871f2c43f8b9be8e99d9b5.png

    • Doug Langley

      Hard to tell, my thermometer melted.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Was that before or after the pavement began to turn mushy?

        Asking for a friend.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          After: the rolling coal guy’s poser non-duelie truck sank up to the running boards …

        • Doug Langley

          Hey, you try cleaning a slab of asphalt off your tenny shoes.

    • mancityRed6

      there’s you’re problem, “New Mexico”
      also “102 feeling like 96” and you’re complaining?
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48b3fede1c8bdb21571d0aa315404106dc1f136528f17a4f8afbb8858fc2581f.png

      • notaten

        Hahaha! At least I have the dry heat. Did you happen to notice the humidity is 2%, with a dew point of 3 deg. And my evaporative cooler is working great!

        • mancityRed6

          damn you and your swamp cooler. humidity is at 67%, like breathing through a wet towel.

          • notaten

            Sorry, man. I’m a desert rat, I wilt at humidity above 20% or so when the temp is above 80. Unless I’m in Hawaii, then I’m fine.

          • mancityRed6

            I remember my short visit to Palm Springs, I climbed a hill and went to a very fancy mall.
            temp was over 100 but it didn’t feel like it was sucking my life’s blood like this.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          99 with 0% humidity here. And my evaporative cooler is working great, too!

          • notaten

            I love the swamp cooler. Uses so much less electricity than the AC I used to have.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω
      • Dudleydidwrong

        “I get no kick from champagne…Doo, doo, doo…doo…
        Mere alcohol doesn’t thrill me at all…”

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          “Your grandmother is Dutch ….” ;-)

    • Raan

      Not as hot as you guys.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0a8e7551a1534fa29c344059d705973b8289c5900d8cd59111866f532932e9ee.png

      I’m still not going outside until after sunset though.

    • jesterpunk

      We are going to Robin Williams (RIP) for the weather report.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1vbCBDeFU

    • I had to manage a tornado warning safety event for our office an community teams today. That was SO MUCH PAPERWORK

    • BadKitty904

      81 degrees here in sunny Florida, steady breeze from the SSE at 10 mph…

    • Kakariki
      • notaten

        That sounds lovely right now. I used to live in Imperial Beach. Never should have sold that house :(

        • Kakariki

          My sister used to live in Imperial Beach. The only bad thing about it is the sewage spills in the Tijuana River that spill into the ocean nearby. :(

    • Red Bird Ω

      We do weather checks now? It’s 93, sunny, clear skies, and windy as usual.

    • SisterArtemis

      61f here, but it feels warmer.
      I’m a block from the ocean – so lovely!
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/705e70dcaa8b6161de3d09cd775ff22f798a5e9ea5eb3850628d2385c88f3711.jpg

      • Bec Jenn

        I’m so jealous. So pretty.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    So, Windows 10 Home Edition let’s you turn off anti-virus, but only temporarily. Then it silently switches it back on…So when I notice my machine bogging down, I have to check the anti-virus setting…about half the time that’s the reason…the other half of the time…god knows, but it unusally clears up shortly. the antivirus never stops being a drag if it’s on. It’s basically unusable, IMHO.

    • mancityRed6

      I don’t do anything worth a damn on a laptop, that’s why I went chromebook and never looked back.

    • Thiazin Red

      The windows firewall is also a massive pain in the ass when it isn’t disabled.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Microsoft piles on more shit rather than FIXING THE FUCKING OPERATING SYSTEM.

        That is all.

        • Incoming Ham

          If you don’t want to be ragey, whatever you do, don’t wireshark – 10 is sending data to MS and pushing stuff to you constantly. 8 was bad enough…

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            No windows here, so … Apple is bad enough, thank you very much. Now I’ll have to shark my Dad’s network router …

          • Incoming Ham

            That’s how we found out – we sharked my fathers router – the network traffic was hellacious.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Fuck Windows 10 with a thousand Blue Votes of Death. I’ve been getting my feet wet trying out Linux Mint in a virtual machine just in case this laptop dies and I can’t get a worthwhile refurbished 7 one. I don’t have the money for a Macintosh so Linux would be what I’d migrate to if I ever had to give up 7.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        I use Linux Mint (Sarah) day-to-day on the desktop machines. Company issued MacBook for all the other shit.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        I’m pretty sure the consumer retail channel is 10 only now…

      • AJ Milne

        Debian guy, don’t know Mint… But I see it’s a descendant. So suspect you’re choosing well.

        I’ve been Linux only (minus Windows on one VM at work for one piece of test gear) for decades. Various reasons. But I’ve also been in software as long (broken only by stints in hardware).

        My experience is there’s always software _somewhere_ for whatever you might want to do, if not in apt, at least there’s a source tarball you can compel to build. But, yes, you will spend more time tweaking it, odds are, to get it working the way you actually want. The desktops are always a bit less friendly than commercial stuff, but the gain is in customisability. I have bash scripts that do everything but my dishes (and I’m working on that). If you’re the kind that was probably going to fiddle obsessively to make things better anyway, you’re likely to be happy.

    • Shanzgood 20 Days

      Oh, bollix. I just bought one with 10 on it. I can have it removed?

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        A windows-ectomy costs extra. Get a USB drive and Linux Mint on a stick. You’ll never go back.

        • Shanzgood 20 Days

          I have no idea what that means.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            IF you want to stick with Windows, you can re-install an older version (like Windows 7). If you’re daring, find some cute nerd and ask her (or him) to install Linux Mint for you.

          • Shanzgood 20 Days

            Pretty sure I’m getting the same type of laptop I had at my last job that also had 10 on it and functioned just fine. If not, I’ll get it fixed.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Even the most Windows savvy users I know are sending Windows 10 packing. In a couple of years, it’ll probably be OK. But right now, the devs and office folks find it mostly usable.

          • Red Bird Ω

            Does it have to be a cute nerd?

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Smart is sexxy … so, no. Cute just makes it moar fun …

        • SisterArtemis

          When they release Quickbooks, illustrator and Photoshop on the Linux platform, I will sooooo be there

          • Three Finger Salute

            You can dual-boot the two systems (intermediate to advanced) or install Windows in a virtual machine (beginner to intermediate). Virtualbox is free; VMWare will cost you. Unless you get it from this discount dealer in Sweden which I have never heard of.

          • AJ Milne

            I run Windows in a VM when I need it. Some Ixia consoles at work is all that’s been for years. Debian otherwise, and have been decades.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            Sadly, many are trapped by the tools of their trade … which basically sucks. You could go Mac with that tool set …

          • SisterArtemis

            I really dislike apple, so ain’t going there

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            We chose Apple as that’s what is used in the schools here. It’s nice to have a Unix prompt for us Olde Unix Greybeards™

    • Jennifer R

      Got more details? I have been using win 10 for over a year and don’t have that problem.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Not sure what you are asking for?

        You don’t have a problem with anti-virus bogging down your machine, or you don’t have trouble turning it off?

        • Jennifer R

          The anti virus doesn’t have any noticable effect on my system resources.

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Well two factors.

            1) My machine is a few years old, and wasn’t a high end model even then.
            2) I often have programs running to read and write to disk a lot, and AFAIK anti-virus looks at every file they touch, again and again.

            In any case, the effect on system responsiveness is both obvious and immediate when I turn it off. I’ve seen other users make similar complaints, probably also people for whom 1 or 2 or both above are true.

            And it’s not just Windows Defender, I’ve seen complaints about Avast now also, and had the same experience myself when I tried it.

          • Jennifer R

            Yeah, it sounds like it’s a matter of just plumb using up all your resources then the AV shows up to do it’s thing, and they do tend to get aggressive if they can’t get enough system to do their thing.

          • Amy!

            I was more or less forced to make the switch at work about fifteen years ago. The company-issued machines were centrally managed, so we couldn’t have administrator on them, and they pushed the anti-virus and updates. I booted linux (don’t remember the distribution, but that long ago prolly debian or gentoo), because, as a developer, I was constantly doing the edit-compile-test cycle, and build times dropped from eighteen minutes to three (java development, so possible to do). Given that it was my job to get the code written (and dev shops are always behind schedule), this meant more than doubling the number of cycles per day (edit/test didn’t speed up any), so they allowed it. I’ve never run Windows since, except in a VM (which means not managed, so I can avoid the antivirus crap).

            Yeah, since all these new files were appearing (and compilers for big builds use hella resources in terms of memory and CPU), the anti-virus just knew they had to be checked for viruses. For code I was writing. Corporate IT wasn’t sympathetic when I complained. Management looked at my numbers, and said “don’t tell IT,” and that was it.

          • John Thorstensen

            Lee-nooks! Yeah!

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Well, system responsiveness is fine, without the anti-virus. If I need a machine with more horsepower just to have headroom for the anti-virus, fuck that.

            I would agree that the Windows scheduler has lost all sense of what a “background task” is supposed to behave like.

          • Jennifer R

            Dare I ask what the actual system specs are?

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Intel Pentium J2900 2.41 GHz
            4 GB Ram
            Windows 10 Home

          • Jennifer R

            Does it bog with only the AV running?

          • Latverian Diplomat

            I don’t see where you are going with this.

          • Jennifer R

            I am bored and troubleshooting to see if I can actually narrow down the cause of your problem.

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Thanks, but there’s nothing wrong with my system, that turning off real time protection doesn’t fix..I still run periodic scans and practice good “hygiene” in other way…I don’t see real time protection providing any sort of benefit equal to the tremendous cost…

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            Mine either.

    • John Thorstensen

      Well, somebody had to do it:

      http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/954660-windows

    • Doug Langley
      • Latverian Diplomat

        It’s not just the incompetence, it’s also the paternalism.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    “LenaDunhamHater69” …. hehehehehe

  • Anna Elizabeth

    Some idiot Troll on the Trump Bank Account thread, Y’alls.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      On my way.

    • jesterpunk

      Eww its a Trump troll, you can never get the stench out when they leave and have to burn and replace the servers.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Trump went to frontier outpost Camp David instead of one of his gaudy shit holes. Marines better count the silverware before he leaves.

  • buzz

    Dearest ManFred – Please let me tell you about my male co-worker who thought I needed to know the definition of concurrent because my simple female brain couldn’t understand such a difficult word. I know how hard it must be to work with females. They throw tantrums and pout, oh wait, that is you. I have not threatened to quit because I didn’t like my yearly review, it was accurate. And I don’t pout or disappear because I’m unhappy with someone said.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      oh gawd … you have them too? My condolences. All the fucking whiners in my company are men. Why is that?

      • buzz

        I’m not sure but I think part of it is just that they just haven’t had to deal with the shit that as a “girl” I’ve had to deal with. The pouting and passive/aggressive behavior just makes me tired.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          It is tiresome for everyone. Don’t like shitty reviews? DO YOUR FUCKING JOB! Want your colleagues to respect you? Do some fucking work! Having problems? Ask for help! It’s really not that hard.

          • buzz

            But asking for help would mean you don’t know everything. Seriously, Google is my friend, if I have tech issue, it’s more than likely that someone else has also had this issue. Tech 101 – just Google the shit.
            And as a side note, a male co-worker that I actually like has been reading these red-pill bullshit sites and now I get to “discuss” with him, how he as a white cis-male has experienced discrimination.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω
          • buzz

            Goddess knows how many times I’ve wanted to say this..

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            I’ve learned to avoid those type of lamers … men and women both. They are career killers … a black hole of discontent that can drag you down with them. I’ll pass, thanks.

    • John Thorstensen

      My sister, who is female, has perhaps the largest working vocabulary of anyone I’ve ever met. Except, maybe, this one anthropology professor I know.

  • jaspersdad
    • Roni Raven, Undercovfefe Agent

      I get 2-3 emails a day from him, Gingrich, Repub Party etc asking for $.

      Disclaimer: I’m on the email list because I once sent him an email for the lulz.

      I reply with a liberal *guffaws* number of “fuck yous.” I doubt if anyone reads my replies but it’s good therapy for me.

      • Le Covfefe Royal

        That’s why you should use a different e-mail address. Preferably a disliked co-worker or an acquaintance who turned out to be an annoying Bernie Bro.

        • Covfefe

          My wife and daughter always use my email address.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        “Once you email Trump, he always views you as a chump.”

    • buzz

      Nope, my money will gohttp://www.puppyrescuemission.com/
      I can’t do much but bringing a loved one home, I can forgo the extra cup of coffee.

    • BadKitty904
      • jaspersdad

        ‘I am not a witch.’

        • BadKitty904

          He certainly resembles a newt in that graphic above.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      “The Grift That Keeps on Grifting!”

    • So much for Rachel’s, “Eh, he’s rich. He doesn’t have to worry about where the money for his lawyers is coming from.”

      • Ω cynmac will never surrender

        I wonder how money he will get through the link?

        • Pat Roberston and Jim Bakker seem to be doing okay, so, lots I would imagine. I would guess that there is a lot of overlap between the two demographics, and the bonus is these people are likely to believe that witches are real . . .

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      Well, I’m calling it a Bitch Hunt from now on cuz I’m tired of listening to his whiny ass.

    • jesterpunk
    • not_vh

      interesting! is that 18 likes?

      when’s ranting and bigoting in public he has like tens of thousands of likes.

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      Someone thought that was a good picture to use. He looks like the demented 71 year old loser that he is.

  • Jenny

    Cristela Alonzo was great in Cars 3. That is all.

  • Incoming Ham

    Real question asked in front of me by a colleague while interviewing a man who would be reporting to me.

    “Do you mind reporting to a woman?”

    After the interview I tore my co-worker a new asshole. I imagine he would mind reporting to a woman. If he didn’t before, he does now.

    • buzz

      Good for you. It’s amazing how ingrained this shit is in our culture.

      • Incoming Ham

        I am apparently a horror. I have called men on their shit for throwing the team under a bus with the a client, for making my producers cry, for just being all around assholes.

        A horror.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Seriously? What a moran. Him, not you.

      • Incoming Ham

        Within a couple of years due to something unrelated his absence was requested by the company.

    • mancityRed6

      the correct response is “no, ma’am”

      • John Thorstensen

        Or .. “What? Why? Huh? Of course not.”

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      You could always lay some HR whup ass on him … that shit’s illegal in the US.

      for now.

      • Incoming Ham

        This was a while ago – in a town where it was perfectly ok due to their being ass-backward and regressive.

    • JustDon’tSayCovfefe

      Best boss I ever had was a woman (sorry, current boss, but it’s true). BTW, she’s an engineer. She once interviewed a man who was applying for a job like mine. When he saw a schematic diagram on her desk, he asked, “You can actually read that?” He didn’t get the job. Go figure. Also too, I had an hour with him – he couldn’t have done the job. The job he thought HIS POSSIBLE BOSS couldn’t do (and she did quite well TYVM).

    • What a stupid question. IT’S FUCKING 2017! If you haven’t gotten that the patriarchy is over by now, you are particularly dense. Or in Congress. Possibly both.

  • BadKitty904

    Goin’ out to our own notaten (see blow)…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0GDQrK2jo

    • John Thorstensen

      Love it!

      Does anyone have any idea where the word “Vandella” came from?

      • Caustic Elvisfellow

        From the Fountain of Coolness.

        • John Thorstensen

          Ah, that explains it. Thanks!

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Evidently an Ethiopian term for a ghost or vampire. Check Wiki.

      • BadKitty904

        They apparently came up with that name after signing with Berry Gordy at Motown, in 1952. Doesn’t have anything to do with sacking Rome, as far as I know…

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω
    • janecita

      I fucking love the pope!

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I hope they make a biopic just so they can cast Jonathan Pryce

      • snigsy

        I had such a crush on him back in the 90s.

    • CeeQ

      Pope: “This fuckin’ guy.”

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Only 1312 full days left in the Trump Presidency

    (Or Trump/Pence/Ryan/Hatch) Presidency if the rule of law ever becomes a thing again before 2021.

    • mancityRed6

      don’t be so optimistic. Pence has started his own campaign slush fund to pay for his legal fees…maybe

      • Latverian Diplomat

        I was just trying to cover the full range of possibilities, no intention to imply probability.

    • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

      President Pelosi 2018!

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Actually, I picture Tammy Duckworth leading the Résistance …

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Heh. Trump and Pence could eat a baby on live TV and the Republican Senate still wouldn’t vote to convict if it meant Speaker Pelosi got the White House.

        • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

          The theory is based on Dems taking back the House and Senate.

          • Latverian Diplomat

            It takes a 2/3 vote to remove the President, not just a majority.

        • Three Finger Salute

          “I could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue…”

  • mancityRed6

    *finally watches the video*
    umm, I really don’t see what’s wrong here…

  • mancityRed6

    John Candy!
    John Candy!
    John Candy!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mk2n3tk9c

  • Claire

    OMG, you guys, look at Fiona and her mama playing in the Big Girl Pool!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FINxIbQzy9s

    • buzz

      Who the hell is cutting onions in here?

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “It’s a river…um, err, horse. Yeah let’s go with that. It’s a river horse!”
      — Some Ancient Greek Dude

    • Les Appentis De la résistance

      They got released from jail!

    • Caustic Elvisfellow

      She loves her mom!

  • Three Finger Salute

    Make America 1984 Again!

    Six people have resigned from Trump’s HIV-AIDS advisory council because he “doesn’t care”

    Cusack’s Law of Eighties Suckiness (if you can sit through at least 20 minutes of Hot Tub Time Machine) fits this administration to a… “T”. Reaganomics (check, it’s Trumpanomics). Crack (close, it’s fentanyl). Now AIDS (check). Bonus: The oldest president ever is a divorced, D-list celebrity with early-stage Alzheimer’s.

    But there’s still no music on MTV!!!

    • Dammit, Buzzfeed. You have one job: posting diverting clickbait, like what minor celebrities from the past look like now, or quizzes to tell me which Lannister I would most like to fuck. Stop posting rage fuel!

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Honestly, I read that first as dickbait. I wasn’t wrong.

        • Three Finger Salute

          Keming.

      • The answer to the Lannister question is Tyrion

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Hey there you young’s. First, get the fuck off my lawn. Second, why I recall the time when the very first MTV video was broadcast. Me and my droogs were in the KU student union all gathered around the big cathode ray tube o’mov’in pictures. Music + video was genius. Some of it was even art. Gradually young people got more stupid and wrapped up in themselves and snotty and MTV followed right behind.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Trump probably thinks people with HIV just exercised too much.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Or he’s going to appoint Charlie Sheen as HIV czar (Donald J. Trump likes czars, they’re incredible, amazing, no czar has been treated more unfairly than Donald J. Trump), just like Dennis Rodman is the unofficial ambassador to North Korea. The unpresident is LARPing his celebrity has-been reality show.

  • janecita

    I can’t stand Camille Cosby! Her “How I describe,” statement is cringe worthy!

  • msanthropesmr

    Dinner and the remnants of an Aperol spritzer.

  • alpacapunchbowl

    I need Elisabeth Moss to walk like a fucking badass in slow motion in every thing she does from now on for ever and ever amen.

    Also, I still haven’t quite recovered from last night’s 90’s music extravaganza…
    https://open.spotify.com/track/3txinrcQj8n7uvoadi8yCQ

    • janecita

      Have you watched “Top of the Lake?” She was amazing in that show.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        I LOVE Top of the Lake! She is a FORCE.
        The whole time I was watching it, I couldn’t figure out why the guy who plays her boyfriend looked so familiar, then I figured it out- he’s the kiwi dark haired version of my sister’s husband, lol

        • janecita

          The second season is coming out in September. It looks really good!

      • Michael R

        I tried to watch ” Queen Of Earth ” because she’s in it but I fell asleep , I do that a lot lately , but I don’t know if I’ll try again .

        • janecita

          Don’t bother, that movie is really tedious.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Unfortunately, she remains a Scientologist.

      • Ω cynmac will never surrender

        Can’t have everything. RDJ is a Republican.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Who?

          • janecita

            Robert Downey Jr, I think.

          • Three Finger Salute

            He went full idiot :(

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Did he? I thought he just had that one stupid quote from years ago, a kind of mixed record (donations to Democrats), and mostly doesn’t talk about politics.

          • Three Finger Salute

            Well, half-idiot then. If he’s a registered GOP, that means he can’t vote in the primaries and thus influence who gets to the nomination in the first place.

        • Latverian Diplomat

          Really? ‘Cause if RDJ is Robert Downey Jr. he was pretty prominent in Whedon’s “vote against Trump” ad.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRp1CK_X_Yw

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Yeah, but you can be Republican and be against Trump.

          • Latverian Diplomat

            It’s true. I have some Republican friends who despise Trump. That’s why we’re still friends.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        She was born into it. Like Beck and some other artists I love despite their affiliation with Scientology, I give her a pass.
        Her parents who bought into that shit? Fuck ’em.

    • That was particularly fun. A colleage and I got into a “Bad 90s Rap Pop-off” in the office a few weeks ago. I think I won with “Summer Girls” by LFO, otherwise known as the Lite Funky Ones, which everyone had forgotten about until I started singing it:

      https://youtu.be/NHuGG_FsC20

      “Will Shakespeare wrote a whole bunch of sonnets. . . “

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea
      • alpacapunchbowl

        YES.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          Maybe this is messed up but I really want those gloves!

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Girl, the only thing wrong with those gloves is being FORCED to wear them.

  • Three Finger Salute

    FUCK YOU, PUTIN! LEAVE JUSTIN ALONE!

    Canada’s top cyber-intelligence agency expects “hacktivist” attacks on 2019 elections

    J.T. needs to build a bigly yuge firewall and make Trumpovich pay for it.

    • Claire

      Canada has proven to be much smarter than the US is, and also Justin can call Emmanuel Macron to get tips on fending off cyberattacks. Let’s hope the Kremlin had its fangs pulled when they actually got someone as stupid and loudmouthed as Trump elected.

      • Also, we paper vote in a lot of places

        • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

          Sure, sure rub it in.

        • Vienna Woods

          We paper vote everywhere. Of course, it’s easy when you’re not voting for everything from dogcatcher to president on the same day. I’ve been a scrutineer- it’s just a matter of dumping them out of the ballot box and separating them in piles. Amazingly efficient.

          • Hey, i’ve only voted in four different ridings. And my last Ontario ballot got but into some real weird scantron looking machine…i was suspicious

          • Vienna Woods

            That is very strange. Provincial, not federal? I suppose they could feed the ballot through a machine, but why? The counting by hand by polling station is darn fast.
            For our American cousins, here’s what our federal ballot looks like. Pretty simple.
            http://www.elections.ca/vot/yth/stu/gui/images/dxsmp1-e.jpg

          • BosGrl

            Oh people in the US would put a mark on the left or circle the name or something. Nothing is simple for us.

          • They explain it to you like 3 times before they give you a ballot

          • I dunno. I tend to vote early at the returning office because i have to cross Wonderland to get to my regular polling place, and the fact that it’s in a church makes me concerned about bursting into flames

          • Three Finger Salute

            Those ballots would never work here. They’re in French! /s

        • BosGrl

          We paper vote in Mass. but I admit to missing those old machines with the levers and curtains. The kids used to get so excited when I took them in with me.

          • therblig

            in 2008, i took 12 y.o. blig jr into the booth with me. i made all the selections but let him actually press the button to vote for obama so he could say he did it.

      • weighmaster

        In Oregon, we vote on paper ballots that are mailed to our homes, which we can either mail back or drop off in a ballot collection box. I love it.

        • Latverian Diplomat

          “It runs the risk of increasing voter participation!”
          — Your Republican Party

          • weighmaster

            Lol…so true

        • Claire

          I’ve heard that from friends who live there. It seems like a great system and I wish it would be adopted more widely.

      • Three Finger Salute

        If that prick Levant pulls any more shit in his native Canada like he did with the Macron Leaks, he’s going to land his ass behind bars. Fucker is pulling the levers of the Scheer Idiot campaign through one of his lackeys as campaign manager. He wants to be the Bannon of the North. He’s not going anywhere except off the air again, just like Sun News tanked when the era of Sunny Ways arrived.

    • jaspersdad

      Our Minister of Foreign Affairs, Chrystia Freeland, is banned from entering Russia.

      “Prior to entering the political fray, Freeland was a financial journalist who had worked and lived in Moscow for several years, and offered frequent, sharp criticisms of Putin.”

      http://globalnews.ca/news/3177689/why-canadas-top-diplomat-chrystia-freeland-banned-from-russia/

      • Awesome, badass chick. I want her and Louise Arbour to take over everything

      • Three Finger Salute

        Very smart lady indeed. Also wrote a book about wealth concentration among gazillionaires and gave an impressive TED talk on the subject. Freeland is also the one who stated that such a thing as the Trudeau Doctrine now exists. Basically what it amounts to is IRL shadowbanning Trump, while pursuing relationships and honoring treaties with international allies and the U.N. until the U.S. gets its shit together — and if not, so be it.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6NKdnZvdoo

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “I’m sorry, sir, our ‘Trudeau will take away our guns and give healthcare to black people’ disinformation campaign was not as successful as we hoped. We did, however see a little traction with the ‘Build a Wall on the Southern Border!’ meme.”

  • Nounverb911
    • Or IS HE?

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        You mean Elvis is, *gasp* ?

        • Parakeetist

          Noooooooo

        • But let’s talk about the REAL author of the so-called Shakespeare plays…

          • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

            Truman Capote?

          • BosGrl

            Marlowe?

          • mancityRed6

            100 monkeys on typewriters?

          • No, that’s 100 Shakepeare clknes in a disued factory in Wales

          • Incoming Ham

            Hey now, rydym yn cael y cachu i lawr …

          • Doug Langley

            Francis Baconz?

          • Supposedly, the new Oxford Shakespeare officially lists a number of co-authors, including Kit Marlowe and others, along with the evidence they used to come to these conclusions. I have no idea what that evidence might be, because I don’t have the hundreds of dollars necessary to buy the book.

          • Incoming Ham

            Marlow, Johnson – mostly Marlow. Several of the plays are suspected to have been written solely by Marlow.

        • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

          No, he just went home.

    • mancityRed6

      you didn’t give a flying fuck when it was a black man being killed, why now you little worthless snowflakes?
      sorry, it’s still hot as balls here.

      • Andy_Kreiss

        But liberals didn’t freak out enough to make the news, because we’re such snowflakes…wait…

    • BadKitty904

      That Bill Shakespeare guy?

      • mancityRed6

        I saw the remains of his home, I saw his wife’s home. that’s where I learned that in that time, if you had a cough you sat on the side of the fire because smoke cures hams, it will cure your cough, right? also, the name for the small glass of beer they gave to kids is somehow tied to the word toddler.

        • Miss Dill

          Toddy?

          • mancityRed6

            ding ding ding
            we have a winner

        • BadKitty904

          I have a rubbing of the inscription on Bill’s grave that my Granddad made sometime in the 1920s:

          Good frend for Iesvs sake forbeare,
          To digg the dvst encloased heare.
          Blese be ye man ty spares thes stones
          And cvrst be he ty moves my bones.

    • Le Covfefe Royal

      Marlowe?

      • BosGrl

        Jinx – you owe me a Coke.

        • Le Covfefe Royal

          Et tu, BosGrl?

          • BosGrl

            I don’t know but I LOVE listening to people talk about the different writers they passionately think wrote Shakespeare’s plays.

          • Le Covfefe Royal

            Like Derek Jacobi? Great actor, but kind of a nutter.

          • BosGrl

            He is! But I adore him anyway.

          • Played a mean Master

          • Le Covfefe Royal

            Is there any other kind?

          • Well, Missy is more “amusing lunatic” insane, slightly less “murder or enslave everyone” insane

          • Shanzgood 20 Days

            Now I have that drumbeat in my head.

          • Vienna Woods

            I saw him play Hamlet at the Old Vic in 1979- transformative! So I felt personally betrayed when he came out as an Oxfordian.

          • Incoming Ham

            I think there are some things one just cannot help.

          • Oh my god, you need to read The Eyre Affair. Shakespeare “truthers” prostelitize door-to-door

          • BosGrl

            Thanks! I will absolutely read that.

          • It’s where my nom-de-non commentor is from

          • BosGrl

            aha!

          • Vienna Woods

            Oh god.I ‘ve fallen down that rabbit hole way too often. The Oxfordians are a bunch of raving nutters.

          • They are the Jehovah’s Witnesses of an alternate 1985…

          • Vienna Woods

            They’re crazier than rats in a coffee can.

          • Three Finger Salute

            I’m guessing “John Barron” isn’t one of them. Unless it’s possible that “John Barron” is the pseudonym for a roomful of an unknown quantity of monkeys randomly banging on typewriter keys.

          • TundraGrifter

            Was it Doc Zoom who recently wrote that Shakespeare wasn’t really a good writer because he used too many clichés?

          • therblig

            he, like, totally plagiarized “West Side Story”

          • TROILUS AND CRESSIDA LIBELZ11!!!!!!

          • La forza del resistino

            But, Larry David got non-credits for all the comedic line rewrites.

        • TundraGrifter

          Stop calling me “Jinx!”

    • Nounverb911

      “I love the poorly educated.”
      –DJT

      https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/876074164595163136

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸
      • “NO! NOT THE BOOS! ANYTHING BUT THE BOOS!”

        –Not the cast, probably.

        • Martini Ambassador 🍸

          Honestly, I’m still trying to figure out that pro-Trump far-left segment of the population that hates America. And is that guy holding the sign one of them?

          • Andy_Kreiss

            I had the same problem. Related to their hatred of tyrannical punctuation on the internet. Every “thought” just bleeds into the next one.

        • Incoming Ham

          Jesus Christ – in my board-trotting days “boos” were far better than no one paying for a ticket.

          Bring on the “boos.”

      • therblig

        Booth eCast? i don’t get it.

      • Incoming Ham

        Perhaps someone needs to give them copies of the script. Better yet, have them all sit in a circle and do a reading.

    • CeeQ

      Omg. Fucking. Idiots.

    • Sakonyachen

      I doubt Trump supporters are interested in George Takei’s Twitter, nevermind the inconvenient facts within.

    • LadyLaz

      Seriously?

    • Incoming Ham

      We need more George and less Donald.

  • La forza del resistino

    Tomorrow is Father’s Day. Tiffany just plain forgot to get a card in the mail.

    • BadKitty904

      Bet she’ll remember to hire a lawyer, though.

    • BosGrl

      I picture him sitting in a big chair waiting for his tribute tomorrow.

      • mancityRed6

        ewwwwww

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Imagine his embarrassment when Barron, not having seen “daddy” in a while, rushes to embrace Pence instead.

        • mancityRed6

          that’s not the outfit I told you to wear!
          and
          ewwwwww

        • Shanzgood 20 Days

          Naw, that’s the Tiffanys security dude

      • La forza del resistino
        • TundraGrifter

          The look on the face of the gentleman wearing the bright sweater is priceless. “Whiskey Tango Foxtwat?”

        • notaten

          See, I knew that was going to be the picture, but I still clicked it open. Why, why do I keep doing that?

          • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

            Because you want to see Donald tuck the dollar in her shorts?

          • notaten

            Ewwww!

        • therblig

          what will donnie jr and eric be lapping?

      • “Which of you shall we say doth love us most?”

        – King Lear, Act 1, Scene 1

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Tiffany just plain forgot to get a card in the mail that she has a father. At least I hope she for the sake of her sanity …

  • mancityRed6

    there is a rumbling sound around me, the clouds are growing thicker…oh please sweet Jeebus let it fucking rain.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      We shall perform the rain dance so the Goddess will bring forth the moisture your earth needs.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      If you’re in eastern KS, you have severe weather headed your way. Be careful what you hope for.

      • mancityRed6

        I’ve got this rock that keeps tornadoes away
        I am wishing for it, I’ll take pictures, I promise.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      But now they finally block the sun
      They rain and snow on everyone
      So many things I would have done
      But clouds took their fucking time getting here….

    • AJ Milne
      • mancityRed6

        seriously, it sounds ominous. I just want it to get the fuck over and rain already

  • Three Finger Salute

    This’ll end well.

    Some congressmen want to be able to carry guns in the nation’s capital

    Because the answer to a 40-car pileup caused by a drunk driver is to have more people drive cars and increase the alcohol-consumption rate.

    The aftermath of the baseball shooting has caused some cons to decide it’d be a good idea to try LARPing “Hamilton.” Nothing could possibly go wrong with that, right?

    Well, that’s one way to put a quick end to a filibuster, I suppose. With something other than votes.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Congressman Yosemite Sam likes the idea. He can celebrate the passage of the AHCA in style!

      http://www.nonstick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Yosemite.gif

      • Three Finger Salute

        Fun fact: “Varmints” is Repubspeak for “liberals”.

    • TundraGrifter

      The brave Capital Police officers were outgunned – they had pistols and the idiot attacker had a Soviet-era long gun. More amateurs with pistols wouldn’t have made a lick of difference – except they might have shot each other or been shot by an officer of the law. And those two outcomes would be bad, indeed.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Untrained assholes with pistols in a crisis situation would totally become Action Heroes.

        • TundraGrifter

          Or colanders.

          When Gabby Giffords was shot, in the crowd was a gentleman with a concealed pistol who thought about wading in but wisely decided not to participate. Thus he avoided gunning down an undercover police officer.

      • theCryptofishist

        These people have never heard the phrase “caught in the crossfire.” Or “friendly fire” also, too.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      I like your car idea. After all, the only thing that stops a bad driver running a red light is a good driver running the green.

    • Raan

      Seeing as they’re all constitutional originalists, I’m sure they’ll have no problem being limited to flintlock pistols that take three minutes to reload

      • Three Finger Salute

        Silly libtard. Don’t you know Jesus brought the whole Israeli nuclear arsenal with him when he captained Noah’s Ark that brought the Pilgrims, the Professor, and Mary-Anne to America? It’s in the Bible, you know. Right next to the part where it says “thou shalt kill the Muslims and thus crush the competition lest one of them stone a harlot to death before thee.” I believe you’ll find the parable in Corinthians II: The Final Insult.

        • Doug Langley

          If you don’t pitch that to Hollywood, I will.

        • Raan

          I thought it was in Corinthians V: A Good Day to Back Down

  • mancityRed6

    the sky behind the trees is dark, is that a good sign?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad13102ed0a770a0eba688faa57997888630636fa91d17728abc2de29354d99d.jpg
    I’m actually more hopeful in the low rumbling I hear.

  • Anna Elizabeth

    MRAs, Christians, Neo-Nazis – Know This: I will treat your kind with every bit the mercy you’re ever shown me.

    • mancityRed6

      kick them in the balls. the way they deserve, with or without votes.

    • BosGrl

      Standing right next to you, sistah!

  • La forza del resistino

    Doanld asks Reince, so what is this Saturday Night Massacre thing people say I shouldn’t repeat.

    • Ricky Gay

      He thinks it will end SNL.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Just DO IT.

      Believe me.

  • alpacapunchbowl

    I think this is one of the first overtly queer songs I remember ever hearing…
    https://open.spotify.com/track/4ACxa9buEUnOdYEoPcnMpi

  • WomanInThePersistence
  • mancityRed6

    and I just got kicked off brainfart

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Did you follow the standard decontamination procedure?

      • mancityRed6

        yes’m, I’m no dummy

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Good. We’ve already had one idiot here. I’m just not in the mood for an infestation.

          • mancityRed6

            click on me, this is why I keep it private. I don’t shit where I eat.

      • Raan

        What is the decontamination procedure?

        Just for future reference.

        • Ω cynmac will never surrender

          Don’t go there? At least IMHO prevention is the better course of action.

        • theCryptofishist

          Half hour of showering, thorough brush down, burn towels and brush, not necessarily in that order. I think I forgot a step or two. Yeah, there’s the wind tunnel bit.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Keep your profile private. And if you must troll, create a new profile.

    • mancityRed6
      • “Well, working the night shift, I often miss the news.”

        BUT I STILL GET GRRRRR! MAD AT IT!!!111!!!1!Eleventy!!!11!!

        • mancityRed6

          I remember reading Harry Potter while drinking a PBR and watching the local school kids get picked up by their bus at 7AM, and I still kept up on the news.

          • theCryptofishist

            You were living the dream!

        • Stulexington

          Yes because news words can only be read during the light of day. I, a nocturnal worker can only get my news here due to the dark sorceries of the Wonkette which somehow allows the news to remain legible during the darkest of night.

      • Dg Hacket

        Rabble rouser!

    • jaspersdad

      Longest I’ve lasted is 20 minutes. I think the reason was unpatriotic commenting or some such bullshit.

      • mancityRed6

        hmmm. let me try some Colbert type stuff…
        I’ll be back.

        • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

          That made me laugh. Be safe out there!

  • Raan

    Arin: Oh, that’s really dark.
    Danny: Yeah, no need to go in there.
    Arin: *goes in*
    Danny: What did I just fucking say?

  • Nounverb911

    And the #showyourrumptotrump keeps on growing!

    https://twitter.com/Trump_ton/status/876154082427359236

    • mancityRed6

      that is cool

      • theCryptofishist

        Do you suppose Theresa May approves?

        • It’s way naughtier than running through a wheat field, so probably not

        • Left Coast Tom

          Queen Elizabeth’s approval seems more likely than Theresa May’s.

  • MCA

    New here. Can I follow Wonkette in/on disqus?

    • Picabo

      Reds fan! I saw Hank Aaron tie the Babe on Opening Day in 1974. Jack Billingham was the pitcher. Also saw Oscar Robertson play with the Royals at Cincinnati Gardens.
      https://americansportshistory.com/2013/03/31/hank-aaron-tied-babe-ruths-home-run-record-on-opening-day-1974/

      • MCA

        When I see the replay of Hank rounding the bases I still get nervous. Man wish I could had been there. I can’t imagine what he put up with.

        • Ω cynmac will never surrender

          I was at the game in Atlanta when Hank Aaron broke the record. I was 12 and it was pandemonium. Publicly, he had a lot of support here. There were death threats and such.
          Fun fact – the Guinness record for most postcards received is 900K to Hank Aaron that year.

          • therblig

            craig shergold libelz!!

        • Picabo

          The fans cheered.

          • MCA

            Some did, some didn’t. His bodyguards had to run the bases with him, scary shit.

    • BosGrl

      Welcome, but as a Red Sox fan I still remember 1975.

      • MCA

        Hey what can I say. Fisk didn’t wave hard enough, in the right game.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Welcome!

      • MCA

        Thank you. New to comments but I’ve been reading for a while. There isn’t anything like Wonkette that I can find.

        • But comments aren’t allowed!

          • MCA

            Shit you got me. But I’m not wearing pants for nothing?

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            That’s the spirit…

          • MCA

            Outta clams so I worked with what I had

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Innovation and resourcefulness are key.

          • MCA

            Well I have no toddler so..

          • WomanInThePersistence

            One of us! One of us!

          • And so quickly…

          • MCA

            There really is song that says that. Wish I could post it but I’m on phone

          • If you give us the name, someone will find it and post

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie
          • MCA

            No New Politics – One of us

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Just follow the rules (in other words don’t be an asshole) and you will find this a very good place.

          • MCA

            Not an asshole at all. I know who’s here, if I wanted to be that way, I wouldn’t be here.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            In no way did I mean to imply that you are an asshole, and I’m sorry if that’s how I came across. Seriously, it’s always nice to have new Wonkers.

          • MCA

            Sorry. I wanted everyone to know, I’m open. Wasn’t coming at ya bro. Thought phone had cute emojis but guess not

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Old timey smily faces work well. :)

          • MCA

            Don’t know how. I’m really new to this

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Colon. Right side parenthesis.

          • MCA

            ;)

          • MCA

            Go watch “Fell it still’

          • MCA

            Oh I didn’t take it that way. A apologies

          • MCA

            All apologies sorry

        • sw19covfefe

          This is true.

          • MCA

            This place is something else. Perfect amount of snark and smarties.

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            How did you find us?

          • MCA

            Ex wife posted something I think. I went here and kept coming back.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Make sure when you fantasize about fucking Donald Trump up real bad, you use the addendum “with votes”.

          • MCA

            Owe mom/dad must I? I kid, wouldn’t do that to anyone.

    • Doug Langley

      I hope you brought enough beer for everyone.

      • Left Coast Tom

        I’m a wine person myself.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          Yeah, me too.

          • Left Coast Tom

            Hopefully he/she has brought All The Booze.

          • Doug Langley

            If it’s vodka, we’ll know s/he’s been sent by YOU KNOW WHO.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            You too.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Hey. Us winos deserve respect also too.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Loser.

          • Left Coast Tom

            I have a loser glass of Dry Creek Zin in front of me.

      • Lori

        Given the times we’re living through, hard liquor or GTFO

      • MCA

        Shit beer run already? Alright place your orders.

    • sw19covfefe

      It pops up in your Disqus Digests, I think, if you follow some regulars on here.

      • MCA

        Okay in that case any volunteers to allow my hitching too? I will open my history. Dig through it. Let me know.

    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Welcome. Yes, you can follow Wonkette on Disqus. Go here: https://disqus.com/home/forum/wonkettecom/
      and click on the button in the top left corner.

      • MCA

        Thank you. Did just that

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      We were all once new. Welcome.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hpPuFnq85A

      • MCA

        Don’t mind if I do. Thanks.

  • La forza del resistino

    Donald spends a w/e in DC. The peeps at the National Cathedral are asking ‘we’re pretty sure he’s not showing up, aren’t we. Or did he promise something to Falwell last week?’.

  • therblig
    • BosGrl

      Even this jerk senses a sinking ship…

    • Wait. That idiot has a fucking spokesman? WHY?

    • Left Coast Tom

      C’mon Milwaukee County Voters…you had one job…

  • PigDootsMolloy
  • Nounverb911
  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    I really don’t get Rethug lawmakers. Apparently they are stonefaced at the prospect of cancer victims and sick kids, but the thing that tugs on their heart-strings are white men shaming them about their level of conservative-ness?
    https://twitter.com/Shareblue/status/876167779644305408

    • theCryptofishist

      Well, they are the cancer.

      • theCryptofishist

        (I know that doesn’t make sense, but it popped into my mind.)

    • BosGrl

      I feel like I’m living in Bizarro world. What the fuck is wrong with these people? I am seriously asking how they get up in the morning, kiss their kids, toss a few bills at the kid behind the counter at Starbucks, wait for an old person to cross the street… in other words, live in the world and be this way?

      • theCryptofishist

        They don’t go to Starbucks. Too many “Latte Liberals.” And the CEO is pro-gay rights.
        In fact, it could be all th ose burnt “Folgers Crystals” that make them so hostile to humanity and life in general. Plus, properly speaking–wait, I totally think Pence is a mormon? is that right? or do all freaky protestant hyperassholes just blend into one another now?

        • BosGrl

          Pence is an evangelical I think. Orrin Hatch is a Mormon. Paul Ryan is a Catholic. And yes, they all blend in but don’t tell an evangelical that Mormons and Catholics are Christian. That drives them nuts :).

          • theCryptofishist

            Short trip.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Except when the evangelical pols want the Mormon or Catholic vote. Then they are Christian enough.

  • mancityRed6

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a5e2e51d7f91d1c8897920c40b3f79233f7959f978d7983560aaf9bd8f8e42b.png
    I can give the link if you really want it. otherwise, the line is “…more ties between Scalise and former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke—including a nearly-decade long close relationship with the ex-KKK leader’s top aide—have emerged.”

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance
    • Martini Ambassador 🍸

      Aww! Great story!

    • La forza del resistino

      Good story. Went ape over it.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Can I get you a banana daiquiri?

        • La forza del resistino

          Without ID, that borders on monkey business.

        • sw19covfefe

          Yes you can. But stop calling me Daiquiri.

  • Anna Elizabeth

    Well we’ve had Rape Culture, Rape Apology, Victim-blaming, Slut-shaming, and threats today already, and yet I’m still hopeful about my date with a guy on Monday.

    What a fool I must be.

    • When it rained earlier today one of the other girls in the office asked if it was raining men. I said i hoped it was since it’s the only way i’ll meet someone

      • Anna Elizabeth

        If men don’t see how awesome you are then they are fools.

        • Awww. Thanks! But i am seriously antisocial

          • Anna Elizabeth

            You’re welcome. :) It’s understandable.

          • mancityRed6

            who are we gonna play cards with?

          • I have friends, they just live in other towns.

          • mancityRed6

            I’ve looked, ok it’s been 13 years, but they have very nice apts for sale in Toronto. Just saying

          • I JUST signed a lease on a new place here. It has full sized kitchen appliances, in suite laundry, the building has an indoor pool and hottub, community BBQs and patio, a big gym, and a games room

          • mancityRed6

            ok, I have a couple of days off this next week, I’ll get passport forms printed. and I still have at least 70 hours of vacay left this year

          • I don’t move in for another month

          • mancityRed6

            fine, if I’m there I’ll help. *sighs*
            ; )

          • Oh, you have a truck? 😆

          • mancityRed6

            u haul is cheap and easy, just like me.

          • Woohoo!

          • mancityRed6

            you had me at full sized kitchen appliances.

          • sw19covfefe
          • mancityRed6

            I once paid $150 a month for a place with a kitchen like that.

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            My first moldy apartment in college was like that, $125/month.

          • mancityRed6

            two apartments I looked at, one had a hole in the freezer compartment, the other had a door that went ?
            yeah.

          • It was one of my must haves

          • sw19covfefe

            So am I, you asshole.

          • Go fuck yourself, you bloody limey bastard

          • theCryptofishist

            Liney bastard? Is he A3?

          • I corrected the typo…it’s limey

          • theCryptofishist

            (I know. I love typos. They lead me off into odd flights of fancy. I meant you know, uh, no harm.)

          • I make them a lot because i’m typing on my tablet

          • theCryptofishist

            With your beak…

          • sw19covfefe

            Spoilsport!

      • mancityRed6

        it’s a national divide that keeps us apart.

        • And eventually, The Wall

          • mancityRed6

            no that’s southern…wait…are you talking the northern wall?
            she leaked it! Canada will build a wall!

          • You think we’re pirating Game of Thrones for fun up here?

          • mancityRed6

            I don’t know how to say this so I just will, I love you.

      • La forza del resistino

        Careful what you wish for. They may all be drips.

      • Now, now.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        They’ll be puddles filled with mosquitos soon enough.

    • mancityRed6

      make sure he talks about you, not just himself.

      • Anna Elizabeth

        Thanx, I will. :) He’s pretty into me, we’ve had coffee twice. If not, men are like buses.

        ETA – another will be along soon enough. xD

        • theCryptofishist

          They spew diesel fumes all over?

          • I drive them like a master?

          • mancityRed6

            they’re full of mostly crazy people?

          • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

            They stop at every street corner?

        • sw19covfefe

          An intrinsic part of the public transport system?

    • Shanzgood 20 Days

      Why did I look at the comments in the Wonkette FB thing re Cosby? There’s some fuckingbitchface on there victim blaming all over the place and it makes me 49 bajillion times madder when it’s a woman.

      • Anna Elizabeth

        Shit.

      • WomanInThePersistence

        Maybe I missed that?

        • Shanzgood 20 Days

          It’s on the FaceBorg

          • WomanInThePersistence

            Ah. I don’t do the book of faces.

  • Nounverb911
    • Anna Elizabeth

      xD I heard on the Internet that Donald J. Trump could play a phonograph record with his peen.

      • I don’t want to think about where the sound comes out.

      • Bill D. Burger

        It’s that long, huh? Never would have thought it.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Well, if that included flipping the disc over to Side 2, I’d be pretty impressed.

  • Picabo

    Sis is getting a divorce after 38 years of marriage. She called earlier and went on a one hour rant. Things are getting ugly. My stress level went up to 11. Logged onto Wonkette immediately afterward. Stress level is down to five. Wonkateers are the BEST. Thank you for being here.

    • mancityRed6

      been through one, looking at #2, it’s not easy.

      • mancityRed6

        I’m not gonna initiate it, just like last time.
        I’m not a quitter.

        • sw19covfefe

          Hey, everyone needs a hobby :)

      • grindstone

        Been through 2, third marriage is 15 years in and better than ever. Hang in there Red, it will get better, one way or t’other.

        • mancityRed6

          nope, I said if the second one didn’t work out, that was it. thanks, though.

          • grindstone

            Well, one way or another also includes “not doing that again”, so rock on.

          • mancityRed6

            *looks at my track record*
            yep, I just see me as the problem.

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Damn. That sounds awful.

    • Rasilom

      Damn that is the worst. Mine has been dragging on for 4 years. On the plus side my ex and I have actually become friends again and are constructivly working on a disalution. Seriously, I never thought we could get it back from trying to kill each other to sharing a bowl.and watching a movie. Tell her to hang in there it can and will get better.

  • mancityRed6

    those “people” at brainfart just don’t like playing.

  • Nounverb911
    • Left Coast Tom

      You know…Brexit has sufficiently tanked the Pound that I’ve debated a Scotland trip next year. One of the alternatives is Alaska, so the competition is fierce, but…

      • sw19covfefe

        It ought to remain suppressed/volatile over the next couple of years while trade deals/WTO favoured nation status etc get sorted. However, once there’s a roadmap, and everyone stops freaking out (pretty quickly) and there’s some stability, sterling should start to climb back up.
        So I’d organise it earlier, rather than later.

  • CeeQ

    Currently in the middle of new season of Orange is the New Black. Great show but it does my head in if I watch too many eps at once. Ditto House of Cards. Which, holy fuck, how pissed are they that real life stole all their plot lines!!

    Last night, I was genuinely happy to see new eps of Great British Baking Show on the DVR. I fucking love that show and honestly, British peeps being scrupulously polite in a hella difficult baking competition was exactly the break I needed from all the Trump bullshit.

    • I’m going to have to give that show a chance, aren’t I? So many people tell me how great it is, but I’ve never watched it, because of former baker sadness.

      I liked baking. Driving a bus, though? Eh. It’s a living. Though I live for the day when I can bang! Zoom! the job to the moon.

      • CeeQ

        I feel the same way about my profession. It pays the bills. So. Ok.

        Watch the show when you’re ready darling. 😃😃

    • sw19covfefe

      I binge-watched OITNB this past week. It’s very more-ish. I really love the arc on it. Plus getting more back stories on more characters.

      Now I haz a sad because all over, plus cliffhanger. But I think that’s a good sign, I think.

      • CeeQ

        Is it bad that I laughed out loud when Alpha girl Megan froze to death? Probably. 😆😆
        She was annoying as fuck.

        • sw19covfefe

          ERMAGHAD! Like totally!

          • CeeQ

            😆😆😆

    • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

      I can’t binge watch because that song is a tremendous earworm to me and I hate it.

      • CeeQ

        Yup. True story lol

      • sw19covfefe

        I always do a little dance.
        I do that when watching Buffy too, tbh.

        • Persistent Demme

          Mr. Demme used to pick up one of the dogs (15 lbs.), and do the “Treme” dance with him.
          *eyeroll*

    • tehbaddr

      Wait just a garn darn tootin’ minute. Presedne Trump is gettin’ a ready to twatter sumthin’ portant.

      It says: “Lying media! Not a puppet! You’re not going to believe it folks. Trust me on this. It’s gonna be great! I hear things. People are talking!” -DJT

      • CeeQ

        I wish he would just go away already. This presidency has killed all of us.

        • tehbaddr

          C’mon now! I know it’s hard to bear, but you must continue to pay attention, and contact your representatives regarding his shit!

          • CeeQ

            You’re right. We will. But for right now – let’s take a break for our mental health!!

          • tehbaddr

            You get a few hours a night during your down time, and time when you’re at work to forget about him. If you can.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Everyone needs a break sometimes. I try to break on the weekends, when I’m not at a march.

          • CeeQ

            Not when I refresh my Wonkette on the regular!! 😃😃🙄🙄

  • mancityRed6

    it is still rumbling, but still no action.
    I am disappoint.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      That’s what *she* said…..

      • mancityRed6

        and so then I roll her over and do it again, just to get my point across.
        but it’s still not raining.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          xD

  • Three Finger Salute

    Doucheland Uber Alles strikes again. Silicon Valley is officially a superfund site.

    Uber rape victim sues company, says execs — including Kalanick — unlawfully obtained her medical records

    • Picabo

      HIPPA violation! They broke federal law. First thing I would do is call the FBI.

      • mancityRed6

        .technically, it’s India, so I dunno if the HIPAA rules apply, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t dicks.

        • Ω cynmac will never surrender

          If you read the story, it’s illegal there too.

          • mancityRed6

            I’m sure it is, technically, and I really hope they get punished to the fullest extent of the law.
            Uber, I’m confused. I want people to make a living but I really want someone who is licensed and tested to drive me around. and this is me, who has had a cab two times in the last 20 years.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            The problem is that Uber obtained the records and then spread them around the office.
            Uber sux. The one good thing that they did in Atlanta was loosen the rules that were fucking the cab drivers. Now most Uber drivers only drive for long enough to gain some clients and then they go independent, which is also now allowed.

    • TJ Barke

      Silicon Valley is nothing but randroid scumbags.

      • Persistent Demme

        Not all of them are, but some ARE scumbags, (I’m looking at you, Thiel and Ellison).

        • Three Finger Salute

          No, they all are. Zuckerberg might be ostensibly a “liberal,” but he’s essentially apolitical. He’s another ultra-wealthy prick who only cares about enriching himself. And a creep who did so by getting people to make it easy for him to spy on everyone’s underwear drawer.

          Like I said, Silicon Valley is a superfund site. It needs to be shut down.

          • Persistent Demme

            Well, I can’t speak to your experience, just to mine.
            I have lived here, in Silicon Valley for 14 years, Mr. Demme works in IT,
            I have NEVER met a scumbag.
            Maybe he’s not high enough in the pecking order, or maybe he’s too high.
            Btw: nobody here thinks Zuckerberg is a liberal. (He held a fund-raiser for Chris Christie, FFS.)

            Uber is in SF, not Silicon Valley.

          • Three Finger Salute

            I guess I was referring more to the upper-level execs and startup founders rather than the salaried employees, and “Silicon Valley” as a shorthand term for the tech industry rather than the specific region a lot of startups are in. Microsoft is all the way north in Washington State, but they’re ruthless scumbags too. I’ve seen very little come out of the tech industry as of late that’s actually improved the quality of life for people or made the world a better place. Maybe 30 years ago, I don’t know.

            But the Internet and the dotcom startups turned mega-conglomerates — Amazon (which is old) and the so-called FANG companies (Facebook, Apple, Netflix, Google), or what I call the GRAFT companies (Google, Reddit, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter) have produced nothing of value except data-mining for shareholders and a honeypot for the Big Brother agencies. Even Twitter’s co-founder admitted — in a sorry-not-sorry statement that basically involved him shrugging and saying “but what are you gonna do about it now that the bird’s out of the cage?” — that social media and the discord it has helped to sow by giving every crank and moron with a relatively inexpensive broadband connection (and now mobile connection) a megaphone is a yuge part of what led to Trump.

            We got along for thousands of years without hashtags, Pepe memes, and the virtual Roman Colosseum that is the mainstream non-comments section. The majority of tech today — because it revolves mainly around the Internet — is at best disposable garbage, and at worst a weapon of mass destruction. If Zuckerberg really gave a shit about making the world a better place (which he doesn’t), he’d pull the plug on his goddamn website for good.

  • bookish

    Climate change and science denial. Two videos.

    http://virologydownunder.blogspot.com.au/2017/06/climate-and-science-denial.html?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&iid=d0d9ce4da50d4f4eaba0abf380ddbca6&uid=2531082433&nid=244+293670920

    Yes, I know this is not directly abort virology – but climate change (CC) and science denial very much does indirectly impact on the fields of virology – some example include

    virus transmission
    imported infection disease
    mass gatherings and disease
    virus vaccines
    viral immnuology
    emerging virus diseases
    viral zoonoses
    seasonal viruses

    • mancityRed6

      it is all connected. mainly via mosquitos who thrive in warm shallow water.

      • tehbaddr

        Thank FSM! I thought it was those weird ear thing larva they were putting in our heads, like Khan did!

  • Bill D. Burger
    • AJ Milne

      It’s a bit sad, really. Number of unpleasant little numbers who scream ‘witch hunt’ the moment anyone starts, oh, say, criticising them, questioning them, actually expecting a fucking accounting for their own damn lamentable actions, and never mind there might not be a lot of actual bonfires nor stakes about…

      I mean, geez, the corrupt and self-pitying need a new hopelessly overbaked idiom or somethin’. Just to break the tedium…

      So, here, guys, here’s a few for free: Pogrom. Inquisition. Putsch. Mebbe just squeak out a good ‘Help, help, I’m being repressed’ or something… En route to the meeting with your broker, in which he tells you the bribes have been duly invested, of course.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    The US ambassador to Qatar has stepped down after posting critical tweets about Donald Trump’s administration after he fired FBI Director James Comey.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-ambassador-qatar-steps-down-191054660.html

    • Left Coast Tom

      Have the Marines started packing their belongings in moving boxes yet?

      • Three Finger Salute

        I was kinda hoping they’d pack up Garfield’s obese, orange evil twin Barfield in a moving box and ship him to Abu Dhabi.

  • Say, remember when Ben & Jerry’s got bought out and the buyers insisted that the company would remain a crunchy granola socially responsible organization? Yeah. About that: Dairy Farm Workers March On Ben & Jerry’s Corporate Offices.

    According to the company’s spokesman, the problem here is that treating the workers with dignity is SUPER HARD, because, ‘‘It has to work for the farmers, the farm owners, and it has to work for the businesses involved and that’s the complex piece.’’

    WHY DOES NO ONE THINK OF THE JERB CREATORS!?!!??!!?!? Also, spokesguy? You’re as good at this a Sean Spicer is!

    • TJ Barke

      Seize the means of production! Worker control now!

    • Left Coast Tom

      You know…small wineries get sold to large conglomerates as well. As a California wine drinker I’ll follow the wine maker (e.g.: Parducci sold and the Parducci’s started McNab Ridge? guess I’ll drink McNab Ridge). I haven’t seen something like this, though – wonder if the separation between grower and wine maker is a factor.

      • Ω cynmac will never surrender

        When it happens with craft beer, the mass produced beer will inevitably sux. Examples Stella Artois and Shocktop.

        • Left Coast Tom

          Was “shocktop” ever good?

          But, yeah, that does seem to be the trend.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            If you like Belgium White, it was okay. It is now undrinkable.

          • eggs ackly-wright

            Hoegaarden white. Yum.

          • Left Coast Tom

            I’ve been to Belgium and enjoyed beer…my taste ran towards the darker beers.

        • Rags

          Ballard Bitter

    • Dg Hacket

      A lot of people in Vt were upset B+J’s went public in the first place, predicting what eventally happened. They were bought out by Unilever and any local concerns were decided by people far away

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Dammit. I love Chunky Monkey. Damn, damn, damn.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bill D. Burger
  • Bill D. Burger
    • Ω cynmac will never surrender

      Americans can visit Cuba just like they used to, from Mexico or another country. Trump is A Idiot.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Or Canada.

        Brainfart thinks its the retirement home for Justin’s “uncle.”

      • Poly_Ester

        Trump is the Cartman of world leaders.

    • Sakonyachen

      China was never communist, but it’s as far from it as ever now. It’s basically controlled feudalism.

    • tehbaddr

      That will all change when he get’s to build a resort there!

  • Bill D. Burger
    • TJ Barke

      Can’t we just call them fascists?

      • janecita

        I call them dumb.

      • sw19covfefe

        Only when they start trying to control artistic expression.

        Oh, wait….

    • tehbaddr

      What’s that say? Has too many words!!!111!!!!11!!!!!1!!!11

  • mancityRed6
    • Ω cynmac will never surrender

      Wait? What? He sleeps with it on his hip? Must hurt.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        kinda makes pooping a little more dangerous than it needs to be.

      • mancityRed6

        if I counted each time I grabbed under my pillow, I wouldn’t have any cats.

    • janecita

      Ewww, his leg and his gun are both probably moldy!

      • mancityRed6

        I have my own balls to look after, thanks. I don’t need to look after someone else’s

    • Lori

      Is he saying that he wears his gun when he showers or that he doesn’t shower? Given where he’s posting I assume he means that latter, but maybe not?

      • mancityRed6

        wait, you have to shower?

        • Lori

          Yes. I try to be open-minded about people’s kinks, but I can’t support the shower optional lifestyle.

          • mancityRed6

            yeah, but it’s more fun to shower together, and that’s what I’m waiting…oh, wait…I showered last night.

      • mancityRed6

        you never know when danger will strike…or if you’re a moron.

    • therblig

      his neighborhood must really be a hellhole. poor guy.

      • mancityRed6

        he didn’t want to come out of his place to get me, so he must be scared.

  • Picabo

    Anyone here post comments at Daily Kos? I like the diaries especially the Abbreviated Pundit Roundup in the morning, Dark Syde, and Meteor Blades. The comments can get tedious. Sometimes they snipe at one another. I’m afraid to register there. Any thoughts?

    • Doug Langley

      I don’t post there but read it regularly. Folks are pretty nice for the most part.

    • Sakonyachen

      If you disagree with Kos(the founder) you are delusional. The moment that Hillary won the south(that Democratic stronghold essential to all Democratic presidential candidates with its 24 or so electoral votes) in the primaries, he declared that all people who thought Bernie could win were delusional. This was 2-3 weeks after claiming that any Hillary vs Bernie shitslinging was to be an immediate ban.

      Then there’s the pooflinging in the comments because your opinion doesn’t fit within whatever laws a fellow commenter has decided without anyone’s knowledge or input. It gets to the point that you have to reread your comments dozens of times because someone may be too delicate to handle a joke.

      Then there is the fact that you have no way of knowing how full of shit the poster of a blog is because all you have to do is sign up. During Bernie’s campaign, I spent more time ridiculing Hillary haters for Pizzagate level shit than reading actual facts.

      Other than that, it’s a lovely site

  • Nounverb911

    SAD!
    Flounder has joined Senator Blutarsky in the great frat house in the sky…

    https://twitter.com/THR/status/876225240417935360

    • BadKitty904

      Vir Cotto is dead???

      • Anna Elizabeth

        :(

        • BadKitty904

          But…but…but he was destined to be the Centauri Emperor, following the Drakh Occupation. This was foreseen by the late Emperor Turhan’s third wife, the Lady Morella.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            First Sinclair, then Mr. Garibaldi, now Vir.

    • MCA

      Damn it

    • Kiri the Unicorn
  • Sakonyachen

    The fact that the video is not a joke to some people make me wish that it was legal to beat redpillers senseless(with votes, I guess, are we still doing that?)

    • MCA

      No one told me of this. I don’t take pleasure from it, but I’ll do it.

      • Sakonyachen

        It was a way to wish harm on someone without breaking the rule of wishing harm on someone. I’m not sure if our Wonketariatte has become too distraught to wish harm, or if the anointed constable of anti-violence(Dr. Zoom) gave up on controlling our calls for bloody revolution, but I don’t see it much anymore.

        It basically worked like this;

        1. Mention something a politician or pundit said or did

        2. Describe a awful thing you would like to happen to them

        3. Create the default disclaimer in paranthesis, “with votes” or “with votes, of course”. This way you were just inviting people to vote against said person’s ideas, as opposed to inciting violence.

        I crossed that line a bunch. Yr Dok Zoom coerced me into donating for my transgressions. I forgot the (with votes) disclaimer. It was then worthy of a banhammer to wish violence or harm on another. I’m sure it still is.

        • MCA

          I understand that here. I was talking about real life. Sorry

    • WomanInThePersistence

      Yes, we are still doing votes.

      • Sakonyachen

        Thanks, hadn’t seen it in a while.

        • WomanInThePersistence

          I appreciate that we may be foul-mouthed, yet civil. Frankly, I need that.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Star Wars night at the ballpark – last year they went First Order. Tonight they are Chewbacca.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Minute Maid?

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        Aces game. I got a shirt and am trying to win a jersey

    • tehbaddr

      Sports ball, A long time ago in a safe space far, far away? Wait wut?

  • alpacapunchbowl
    • janecita

      Try some Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Or Nick Cave and infamous “lightweight” Kylie Minogue.
        I could have gone to see Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds literally last night at the theater where the Joffrey performs the Nutcracker.
        That’s how huge of a jackass this coworker is that I said, “nah”

        • janecita

          That sucks, his concerts are awesome!

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Oh, I know.
            Have you ever seen him solo? Doing Seeds songs by himself on a grand piano? Fucking incredible.

          • janecita

            Only on You Tube:-(

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Oops, meant to include this, got distracted
        https://open.spotify.com/track/3OwtuzRo8mc7lgsBau9MWk

        • janecita

          Thanks! I’m a HUGE The Cure fan, so my favorite goth album would have to be “Desintegration,” but I also love
          Black Tape for a Blue Girl, “Remnants of a Deeper Purity.” Have you ever heard that album?

    • tehbaddr

      Oh Yeah! I saw them open for The The back in, I think it was 87? For The Mind Bomb tour. Strange match up but an excellent show!

      Edit: BTW Hey now, hey now now!

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Oh my god, this song just might be my all-time jam (though it is a little too close to home sometimes(
        https://youtu.be/-32AAp418V4

        • tehbaddr

          This is an old time anthem from way back when….

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    I spent the day dealing with families of farmworkers. With everything else going on, please don’t forget that ICE is making these peoples’ lives miserable. Some don’t know where their loved ones are, some wonder if they’ll be next, and all — even citizens and others who are here legally — live every day in fear. If you live in the west, there is undoubtedly a local group accepting donations to help. Please consider kicking some ameros their way, if you can.

    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      good on ya matt!

      • MCA

        Seconded

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        If you have a stray non-jobhunting hour or two to commit, you might meet a lawyer or two who knows someone who is looking for help. I know you’ve tried almost everything else.

    • Persistent Demme

      Thanks.
      (Know that lawyer-daughter is working on this also.)

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Good for her.

        ETA: Original comment was kind of assholishly judgmental of lawyers who don’t share my beliefs.

    • MCA

      Damn man. Thanks

  • mancityRed6

    two hours after it should have started and all I hear is thunder.
    thanks, god. thanks a ton.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      Not enough nekkids to make the rain dance work … sorry.

      • mancityRed6

        I did not see the video. maybe that would have helped?

      • Shanzgood 20 Days

        I’d go do nekkids on my porch in aid of making it rain but there are too many mosquitoes and I hate my neighbors.

    • janecita

      It’s going to be raining here until at least Wednesday.

      • Left Coast Tom

        Around here we might see rain starting sometime on October. Hopefully all the mountains that are currently sliding from last winter will have stabilized by then.

    • Picabo

      Maybe tomorrow. Have you checked Weather Underground for a forecast?

      • mancityRed6

        they are proving better than the weather channel, and I just saw lightning. oh sweet jeebus, yes.

        • Picabo

          I used Weather Underground during Hurricane Matthew. They were spot on.

          • mancityRed6

            the rumbling is loud. it is beautiful. I want storms…lightning, thunder…all of that. bring it you bastards!

    • tehbaddr

      You haven’t done the incantations and movements properly. I have to question your devotion in this matter.

  • mancityRed6

    well, at least the thunder is understandable
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/88f6b1fb9e02ec03377fe0cac8199651aba62885e63e0a7d8e4488cbf64368ce.png
    but I’m still getting messages from someone who has a “9” and thousands of rounds.
    oh, brainfart, you keep being you.

  • sw19covfefe
  • alpacapunchbowl
    • mancityRed6

      I used to know a girl, I bought her the latest King book back in the day, when she was satiated sexually, she would play Siouxsie. that’s when we knew it was cool to come in.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        My college boyfriend just took the rubber band off the doorknob when I wasn’t nekkid anymore.

  • Picabo

    A few years ago I saw a skydiving video that used several songs for a soundtrack. Being an old I did not recognize the source of most of the music. Recently found one of them. Now I have an ear worm. Here it is.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OjTspCqvk8

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      I went there but I didn’t hear any music.

      • Picabo

        I posted the wrong link. Then did an edit.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      I love White Stripes, and “Icky Thump” is a fave. :)

    • Scrofula

      You discovered greatness.
      That fucker’s whole oeuvre is a single guitar or a piano, not in a lounge-y or round-the-campfire way either. (And his girl on drums)
      Not always in the mood, can’t argue he’s not a talent.

  • mancityRed6

    and the grand brainfart adventure is over.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a57955555c39be9332cd5578d5f9cafc5ff528f095096ee6e290ff5dc141a120.png
    I’m sad, I miss them already.

    • Lori

      Does he think “why not” is one word, like cannot or was someone already registered as “Why not be great again222”?

      • mancityRed6

        you’re asking me to get into the head of these people, it’s not like there isn’t enough room, but I feel lonely.

        • Lori

          Some mysteries are better left unexplored.

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          I hear spiders go spelunking inside the heads of Breitbart commenters …

    • WomanInThePersistence

      I say this with love. Are you nuts?

      • mancityRed6

        it’s fun sometimes to poke the squirrel.

        • Lori

          Squirrels often have rabies. You should leave them alone. (I say that as a person who actually thinks they’re cute.)

          • mancityRed6

            there used to be ads in the big nickel papers around here for descented skunks or raccoons of whatever variety. also wolves (who turned out to be dogs)

  • Sheepshagger

    https://twitter.com/yesterdaytoday9/status/876216178934505474

    Just for the MRA types out there. Make your balls shrivel into smaller raisins.

  • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly
    • AJ Milne

      … seriously, between the team Mueller’s gonna need to tease out all their hinky shit and the defence teams, I figure it’s gonna be like the war/post-war boom. They’ll need a GI bill at least to demobilize all the bailiffs.

  • Jukesgrrl

    For anyone who’s been here for a long time:
    Do you remember the name of a national-profile conservative woman who used to get made fun of here a lot? She was associated with NOM (National Organization for Marriage) in the days when marriage equality was just being argued in the courts. She was a rabid Catholic who was, of course, against LGBTs, abortion, etc., and I don’t think she was married herself but seemed to worship the state of straight matrimony. Whatever happened to her? I noticed on Joe. My. God. that NOM had it’s annual DC rally this weekend and a grand total of 47 people showed up. That’s what made me think of her. She was constantly opining on every possible media platform that every woman needed a man and we were all required to procreate.
    http://www.joemygod.com/2017/06/17/humiliation-redux-anti-marriage-hate-march-draws-47/

    • Wild Cat

      Don’t remember her, but $100K says she was a closeted or latent lesbian. (Is “latent” still a term?)

      • Duke
        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Do you think she procreated?

          • Wild Cat

            I dunno—slugs are suprisingly choosy when it comes to reproduction, even with themselves.

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            Wikipedia says she has 2 sons, the first born out of wedlock.

        • Wild Cat

          Maybe she just couldn’t get laid?

      • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

        Another $100K says she has closets in her closet.

    • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

      I couldn’t get the google machine to produce it.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      Maggie Motherfucking Gallagher

      • Jukesgrrl

        OH, THANK YOU! That’s her name. Couldn’t forget the face or the “ideas,” but forgot the name.

        • UncleTravelingMatt

          Maggie Motherfucking-but-only-for-purposes-of-conception Gallagher, I meant.

          • Jukesgrrl

            I just looked her up once I got my answer. She is married now, to a Hindu man, although she still practices Catholicism. She has a son with him and also had a son with someone she dated when she was at Yale. Apparently, that “accident” is how she was radicalized against out-of-wedlock sex. The father of her child wouldn’t marry her or have anything to do with the baby so that meant no one else should ever have sex outside of marriage. She doesn’t seem to have much to do anymore with NOM; she’s running her own “nonprofit” lobbying group called the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy. I put nonprofit in quotes remembering how much cash she dragged out of the Bush Administration doing favors for their “abstinence” programs. She was paid tens of thousands of dollars over a period of years to write reports and policy papers that she then pawned off as “journalism” for a double-dip in the pay department.

          • Scrofula

            I had this argument come up today–how the religious right could focus on deadbeat dads instead of closing clinics or attacking single mothers.

          • WomanInThePersistence

            She sounds nice.

    • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

      Phyllis Schlafly?

      • Wild Cat

        No—she used to troll “Blue Balls” looking for her son.

    • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly
      • Wild Cat

        Yup. Saw her talent with 34 dildos on SapphoCam.

        • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

          Jabba the Hutt’s long lost sister.

      • Sheepshagger

        That’s obviously Mitch McConnell in his Grindr profile. You’re not fooling anyone.

        • Wild Cat

          “Turtles Do It Harder”

          • Cogswell – in a mirror darkly

            Post Tortoise

            While stitching a cut on the hand of a 75 year old farmer, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man.

            Eventually the topic got around to Donald Trump and his role as the President. The old farmer said, ” Well, as I see it, Donald Trump is like a ‘Post Tortoise’.”

            Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post tortoise’ was. The old farmer said, “When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a tortoise balanced on top, that’s a post tortoise.”

            The old farmer saw the puzzled look on the doctor’s face so he continued to explain. “You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, he’s elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put him up there to begin with.”

  • GreenGoldSharpie

    You know, I read a pair of articles today (one in WaPo and another, jsut now, on The Atlantic) about how rural culture differs urban and how Th Atlantic might be a job killer (say bug bye to a lot of rural households), and it made me realize something.

    This is going to be our country for decades to come. While economic activity increasingly moves more and more urban political concern is going to be on these folks who refuse to change or move.

    It crushes my spirit a little to think about that.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      I doubt our nation or the human race even last more than a decade.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Naw, we will. We’re resilient little cockroaches, and never doubt the importance of inertia for survival.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Rural to urban migration is a thing that’s traditionally called “civilization”.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        It is, but a stubborn refusal to move is what is characterizing part of the population. When the mill left thirty years ago and you’re still sitting on the porch drinking a Bud complaining about the fact that the “Spanish” get welfare maybe you need to reexamine your life, right?

        General “you” of course. Not implying this is you. Just frustrated.

        • Left Coast Tom

          I think the process has simply accelerated on account of modern technology. Such movement has been a thing since at least ancient Babylon, but the timeframe may be compressed now, leading to inter-generational issues.

        • sw19covfefe

          Retraining the workforce, different skillsets, but also not being afraid to accept when your home has become a ghost town, and you need to go live with in the township in the same, or neighbouring, county.

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            We proposed that. No one listened and Clinton lost among screams for “bring back coal!” and “fuck immigrants!”

            My point was we’re dealing with a lot of irrational actors here.

          • Left Coast Tom

            All true.

            And yet – coal still won’t come back. What then?

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            What I said above. We deal with them for the next few decades, apparently, until they die off.

            Which will be a long, unhealthy social slog for this country.

          • sw19covfefe

            So, just spitballing….Focus funding of key rural ‘hubs’? i.e. market towns with subsidised broadband access, focussed funding, education…. the slow slog to encourage most people to gravitate and rejuvenate.
            But of course, if anyone wants to live further out – or can only afford to – then they have that choice.
            Things ought to sift and settle after a few generations, but yep, humans are irrational.

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            I would prefer that, but the US system is currently aligned with rural folks in voting.

            So, we have situations now where even state legislatures are trying to dictate social policy and regulations for cities despite those legislatures drawing from largely rural voters.

            Eventually, this situation is going to cripple economic development because we keep giving electoral power to dead enders.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            This is the current battle in Georgia, but we now have 4 Islands of Blue. It’s not just Atlanta, but Athens, Savannah and Albany. Without Atlanta, Georgia would be Alabama, which is not lost on the money men in the GOP. It’s our one saving grace.

          • I am not sure this is everyone’s experience, but in my experience with rural life, when people actually get educated and try to do /something/ their family and neighbors accuse them of putting on airs and acting like they are better.

          • sw19covfefe

            That’s very sad. :<

          • It is horrible.
            Case in point: Co worker lady’s husband. She is college educated, he is not, but he is going for trades skills right now to a: get a better position and therefore more money and b: so he will be able to teach said trade himself which is what he really longs to be doing.
            His mother- HIS OWN MOTHER- asked him why he was trying to better himself. Was it because of his snobby wife pushing him?

          • sw19covfefe

            TBH that sounds like my housemate’s mother. It’s clearly not just a rural thing.

          • It’s not, but it is very prevalent a thing in rural areas. Like common. Man, I know plenty of people who can’t “get out” as it were, from multiple places, but it just seems to me in the city it is ok if you do get out, you know? Like good for them, movin on up!
            It is decidedly NOT cool around here. I mentioned to a local gal how I was hoping my lads went away to a school to get out and experience, you know, and she was SHOCKED. What if they look down on you for living here???? I was all o.O…not a concern?

          • sw19covfefe

            TBH This sounds like Alberta – especially now the tar sands aren’t so profitable.
            I think I prefer being out on the coast with all the polite canadian hippies and their quaint, grown-up, well-thought-out Green Party.

          • Three Finger Salute

            The cons were ready to crucify Justin when he said that the tar sands would eventually be “phased out.” He wasn’t saying that he was going to shut them down. He was stating a fact. Canada is investing in renewables and transitioning to a more sustainable energy economy. But he knew he had to choose his words carefully to avoid another pitchfork uprising like the one below the 49th.

            Even still, the purity ponies got mad at him because he didn’t just throw Alberta under the bus (for reasons already stated, and also his father’s experience with the controversial “National Energy Program” that some say contributed significantly to the Liberals’ now-infamous loss in 1979) and implement a 100% “Sunny Ways” solar paneling initiative on every single building in the country overnight.

            I’m glad he didn’t give a shit about Jane Fonda. Does anyone give a shit about Jane Fonda? Another washed-up Sarandon and wannabe revolutionary, playing spoiler in a country she’s not even from. They want perfect, even when it’s the enemy of the good.

          • Every place has its ups and downs, but for sure when people are down, they do NOT like someone they know getting ahead.
            It is weird.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            My daughter moved to Portland, OR two years ago and my family had a fit. Not her father and not me, but my mom and all. “How can you let her move all the way across country” was the lament. To which I answered that she is 24 and a grown ass woman (GAW) and why would I stop her?

          • Right?? I guess a selfish bit of me would want them closer, but who am I to try to prevent them from living?
            Seems so alien a concept to me

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Especially when we have smartphones and all different ways to stay in touch. Although I did tell my daughter that she didn’t have to stay in close contact with me, but to stay in contact with my mom. So neither one of us had to hear the whining.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Actually, that can be anyone’s parents when you strike out to do something different. My parents questioned every decision I made, different from their decisions, and it’s only now that I’m 55 that they are willing to say that it worked out. They didn’t call it ‘putting on airs’ though. It was taking ‘unnecessary risks’. Like life is safe.

          • Difference being questioning decisions vs actively attempting to prevent you from succeeding at life methinks XD

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Oh, they browbeat me to death. But my nephew once said at a family dinner, “I’m glad Aunt Cindy broke away so I have my choice in where to go to school and where to live” and that put a lot of it to bed. He and my daughter have made many of their own life decisions and both live far away.
            If I couldn’t get away completely, at least I made it easier for them to be able to.

          • Sounds to me yers might fall into the second category then XD
            I do not know why some folks just cannot stand seeing people succeed /more/ than them. Is that not the point? Are we not supposed to work our asses off so our kids have it a little bit better? At what point did we decide that our children should not try to become better?

          • SeekingCovfefeBarbie

            The kids will leave and the people who stay will get old and die.

        • pussygrabber in chief

          Or you’re still consistently voting republican against your own self-interests because the republicans feed your hatred of the blahs and the messicans and the gheys.

        • Shibusa

          When poor urban blacks suffer from generational poverty and family dysfunction, they’re supposed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, educate themselves, make changes, take charge. But when poor rural whites suffer from generational poverty and family dysfunction, they’re the salt of the earth/backbone of America who must be saved by government intervention aimed at propping up dying industries….

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            Bingo.

            But, honestly, is there a solution to stopping them? They’re big enough to determine elections still, at least for some time. That’s my concern. It’s what concerns me.

            A few decades of them voting like they did in 2016 and this country will be well behind the EU and China.

          • sw19covfefe

            Good point well made.

          • pussygrabber in chief

            Yup. If i learned anything from this past election, it’s that poor rural whites are victims of economic anxiety and disenfranchisement, while poor urban blacks are lazy and entitled.

    • Sheepshagger

      I have cousins here who are poor country folk. “Angry, resentful and immobile ” sums them up. They can’t seem to grasp that the lifestyle they cling to is killing them. It’s weird.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        Some areas are advancing … but it takes work and initiative.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/18/us/beyond-coal-imagining-appalachias-future.html?mcubz=1

        • Sheepshagger

          Well the ones with get up and go usually get up and…..go.

          • Résistance Land Shark Ω

            and that’s the difference.

      • Shibusa

        I have extended family in Butte–generations of copper/gold/silver miners. Their people have died in the mines or died of diseases related to the work, but they won’t say a bad thing about the mega-mining company there, even as the company flexes its lobbying muscle to undo even modest reforms to protect miners’ health and safety. Amazing.

        • sw19covfefe

          I hear the same sort of rumblings from people in the Lumber industry here in BC. But it’s more a case of moaning when First Nations and Green “Treehuggers” attempt to save sections of old growth forest.
          That said, the government does a decent enough job of forest management, so it’s relatively just bickering over “why try and save that bit especially, duh!”. I can see how that can disintegrate pretty quickly.
          Mind you, most of the population in Canada is concentrated in the key cities… and there is naturally/organically a metric fuckton of wilderness up here.
          It was interesting to visit Tofino, out on the coast, and how it’s rejuvenated and reinvented itself as a hip surfer mecca, after the logging and fishing moved away.

    • sw19covfefe

      It’s been moving to urban areas since the Industrial Revolution.
      It’s more the case in countries like China – who are now experiencing the same thing, but on steroids.

      A lot of people like living in the country. Also vital roles like farmers, oil, natural resources, obvs.
      TBH I can’t wait to get out of London – although yes, I love being within day-trip distance to Vancouver and Victoria, for culture and sport, etc.
      But yes, it’s important to support the rural areas – and with the spread of the internet, I think that’s a cornerstone.

      • Résistance Land Shark Ω

        And yet our newly appointed FCC chairman wants to euthanize the Universal Fund that supports rural internet service. And his BFFs in the telcos are telling him how to do it. Fuckers all.

        • sw19covfefe

          The cost of everything and the value of nothing.

        • Keeping one’s base uneducated without access to information is a pretty old trick.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        The problem is that much of the much talked about Rust Belt isn’t full of farmers or, well, fucking anything but the rusted out hulks of factories, meth labs, opioid addiction, and.a complete lack of economic activity.

        They’re a drain, but they were screaming at urban areas for being a drain thirty years ago. It’s as if they thought they were immune to social and economic decay unlike, well, “the blacks” to put it nicely.

        Hell, I live in, and I see it.

        • sw19covfefe

          I don’t disagree with you. There are always going to be takers, but deep down they must know that Trump isn’t bringing their coal jobs back. That’s the really distasteful part of the past election.

          • GreenGoldSharpie

            Probably, or maybe not? I honestly don’t know anymore. They sure celebrated when he was elected. It doesn’t matter, though.

            Coal isn’t going to come back, but they’ve sat on their duffers for years. What’s going to stop them when they’re just enough of a demographic to swing elections so they can demand LOTS of attention like they’re getting now?

            My big worry is they’re going to draw off enough attention — and they are — to actually hurt the rest of the country.

          • You are wrong on that, Wombles. They actually really believe that Trump will save them.
            They have built their entire current world view on that.
            And when he fails to deliver, it will be because those liberals stopped him.

          • sw19covfefe

            Okay, you win, please stop depressing me!

          • I am sorry :huggles: It is not all bad! Their children will see and watch and for the most part learn

        • Three Finger Salute

          What about the suburbs? Nothing but empty shopping malls and single-family eyesores being torn down as their elderly and Boomer occupants either die off or get shoved into nursing home storage units — while their kids can barely afford rent in the “exciting” cities that they supposedly want to live in (let alone buying homes).

          I’m a ‘burbanite, and I’d probably have a mental breakdown if I had to live in the city. I don’t even like to travel there. Way too many people, dinky apartments that you have to split rent with strange roommates (aaaaugh!) in order to afford, boarded up flophouses in crime- and drug-ridden neighborhoods, and (shiver) the public metro, with public masturbators who reek of pee and a Bernard Goetz wannabe on the platform just waiting to go off.

          I’ve seen enough Law & Order and Blue Bloods episodes over the course of my lifetime that NYC terrifies me. Heck, Boston terrifies me. I’ve never even been to Fenway, because I’d rather watch the game at home than get mugged, groped, or have my throat slit on the Green Line. I’d be “Charlotte” on the M.T.A. in that I’d never return and my fate would still be unlearned — as a cold case in the Boston P.D.’s basement files.

          I may not agree with the country bumpkins’ political views, but I can totally understand why they don’t want to relocate to the big city. I’d rather face down alligators in Florida than rapey Elmo impersonators in New York. Which is sad, because you have to risk the rapist Muppets in order to be where the jobs are. If I was them I’d probably prefer an opioid overdose too.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            Wow. That’s a lot to unpack and digest there.
            I grew up in the suburbs but went to college in the city and never left. Lived in my great-grandmother’s house in “the ghetto” and learned some street smarts. I’ve never had that all-encompassing fear.
            There should be a place in this country for everyone and it all requires us to accept some change. And to draw together as TPTB try to tear us apart.
            For example, the demise of the family farm is finding a renaissance here in Georgia as farmer’s markets in the neighborhoods have taken off. We have always had truck farmers set up on street corners but the markets have taken the distribution to a whole ‘nuther level. To where they even have them set up at the train stations. It’s a win-win because the shoppers get the freshest food and the farmers get a growing market.
            Even in the burbs, the shopping malls can be redeveloped. It’s a matter of people drawing together, rather than being driven apart.

        • Ω cynmac will never surrender

          If you look at societal issues, things that affect blacks and Latinos will within 20 years affect white folks. Like unwed mothers – issue for minorities in the 1960’s, issue for whites in the 1980’s.
          What concerns me, more than anything else, after working a Dept of Ed contract is the kids. Bad schools and no way out will make this a multigenerational issue like the ‘urban underclass’.

      • Three Finger Salute

        Soylent Green, yet another dystopian title that needs to be moved to the “documentary” category. The rich live in the idyllic, unspoiled countryside. The rest of us are squished into overcrowded, polluted cities — and made into “delicacies” to free up space.

        We really need to hurry up and build those euthanasia machines. I really don’t care if I end up being Soylent Caviar at this point. VR and a morphine drip is better than abject poverty and war. But no, the 0.0001% are sociopaths who want us to suffer before we die.

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω

      The agricultural communities were basically murdered by capitalism and price fixing. It’s sad that a whole way of life and culture was destroyed in this country over profits and greed.

      • jesterpunk

        The only real no factory farm left are the Amish family farms and that is only because they dont pay taxes and they also have rental properties to supplement their income.

    • Three Finger Salute

      Recommended reading on the subject: Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance; Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam — and for a more blunt take, Coming Apart by Charles Murray. (Yes, that Charles Murray.)

      For a glimpse into how the Internet has played a part in pitting people against each other into echo chambers, there’s The Winter of our Disconnect by MIT psychology professor Sherry Turkle.

      The U.S. Civil War was a rural vs. urban one too. Seems we’re due for a second go-around. Once again, it will not be pretty. And the ones at the top will continue to line their pockets and sip tea while the plebs rip each other to shreds.

      Humans suck.

      • GreenGoldSharpie

        Read Hillbilly Elegy already. :-)

        • sw19covfefe

          Recommend?

    • jaspersdad

      They did a bit on Bill Maher about Pruitt’s claim that Trump had already brought back 50,000 coal jobs………….when there are only 51,000 coal jobs in the US to begin with.

  • sw19covfefe
    • I also like this twitterers handle. I bet if you knock him he gets the fuck back up again

    • Picabo

      Stand up to bullies. Dip shit messed with Malcolm Nance. Epic take down ensued.

    • mancityRed6

      I just literally just had a person tell me they had a “9” and a lot of ammunition. tell me they don’t force this kind of talk.

    • Lori

      I love how Mr Breirfart immediately dodges to “we get death threats too.” As if getting death threats means it’s OK that they post fake news.

      • pussygrabber in chief

        “Both sides do it!!!” squealed the professional hate-monger and purveyor of fake news.

    • Hercules Mulligan is the name of my next Irish Pub.

      • My favourite Irish pub is in Ottawa, at the corner of Sparks and Elgin. All the interior of the pub was imported from Ireland-the tiles, the rails, the woodwork…and it’s either the start or end point of the local haunted walk tour. It’s named after an Irish Candian Politician who was assassinated down the street

        • I just want a hole in the wall with Harp on tap, the Clancy bros on the juke, and the faint smell of pot roast in the air.
          I’m a humble sort.

          • This place had Harp on tap the last time i was therr and they had roast beef on the menu forever

          • see?
            I know my stuff.
            Also, pro tip: Harp and Guinness black and tan is like friggin manna from somewhere. And I usually do not like Guinness very much.

      • JustDon’tSayCovfefe

        I thought Hercules Mulligan was a golf term. Something about twelve tasks?

    • jaspersdad

      It was funny hearing Nance giggling at Eddie Izzard’s humour.

    • Me The People

      That was great.

  • mancityRed6
    • Sheepshagger

      Love a good storm. Try not to die.

      • mancityRed6

        it’s just starting, I’m not threatened at all

        • Résistance Land Shark Ω

          Well, I’ve heard things move at a slower pace in the midwest, so maybe that’s why the storm is taking its sweet time …

          • mancityRed6

            we’re still getting over bell bottoms

          • JustDon’tSayCovfefe

            It’s not that they’re slow-moving so much as you can see them coming so much farther away.

  • Wild Cat

    Can I sue Chanel for using the Hendrix version of “Watchtower” to sell male handmaid’s cologne?

  • mancityRed6
    • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

      interesting critique of shakespeare there.

      • mancityRed6

        you, sir, are amazeballs.

      • Wonder what he thinks of Othello if he thinks Julius is racist.

        • Anna Elizabeth

          Even now, now, very now, an old black ram
          Is tupping your white ewe

          • sw19covfefe

            Is that like cow tipping?

          • Thiazin Red

            If by tip you mean bang and by cow you mean a lady, then yes.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Only in Wyoming and Yorkshire.

      • Left Coast Tom

        Yeah…I enjoy the Shakespeare theater in Ashland, Oregon, and “bobbyboy3″‘s take on The Bard isn’t one I’ve seen presented. At which theater is he the Artistic Director?

    • racists, socialist, globalist play?
      ….Shakespeare? Really?

      • mancityRed6

        Soros is my free square, but if they had said anything about jews, I would have bingo.

        • Betcha you could have got him there. Lil prodding.
          Like….you are right, Julius Caesar IS racist. The stuff they say about jews in that one…whew

        • JustDon’tSayCovfefe

          “globalist” You have a bingo!

        • Vecchioivan

          I lost by a single Rothschild.

          • mancityRed6

            bilderberg or gtfo

      • JustDon’tSayCovfefe

        Well, it was The Globe theater.

        • Vecchioivan

          Wake up, sheeple!

    • Résistance Land Shark Ω
      • I just wanna start asking these morans….
        “You do know that Julius Caesar is a play about how it is bad to assassinate people and all the folks in on the plot meet a very horrible and agonizing end, right?”

        • Left Coast Tom

          You’d probably lose them with the word “know”.

          • But it would be fun to watch them scramble.
            Then go WHY U WANT TO ASSASSINATE PEOPLE HUH??????

          • Left Coast Tom

            There’s serious critiques of racism with respect to Lord of the Rings. One can enjoy the books, and the movies, while also acknowledging the seriousness of the critiques.

          • Like how no one in said story has any hint of brown to them you mean?

          • Left Coast Tom

            Not true! The “Harad” had black skin (in the books, they were the folks riding the “oliphants”).

            There’s also the whole issue of the “Orcs” as irredeemable creatures.

            More fundamentally…Tolkien was deeply conservative, though unlike the morans we’re dealing with he was quite able to think. His world was one where “good” folk filled the roles where their births placed them – Aragorn was born to be King of Gondor, Samwise was heroic as he faithfully carried out his role as Frodo’s servant even as Frodo strayed at the doors of Mt. Doom.

            One aspect that separates him from the current-day morans…scholarship was vital to him, it was critical (in both the movies and books) that Gandalf resolved his uncertainty regarding the Ring by studying manuscripts in Minas Tirith.

          • seems more class warfare than racisms if it is all about manifest destiny whosawhatsit.
            But Sam is my favorite character in the entire set, and the only one aside from Bilbo that I even like a little XD
            Even of Orlando in the movie was yummy to look at.

          • Left Coast Tom

            You could make the class argument as well, but the race argument also extends to the entire “Numenorean” race – human descendents of Elrond’s brother (Elrond and his brother were half-elven) – Tolkien is quite clear that it was the elvish blood that separated the Numenoreans from other men.

          • Left Coast Tom

            (Aragon, of course, is one of the Numenorean)

          • I guess. But when you are talking about fictional races, I am worried drawing real world comparisons is a bit presumptive. Is it Master Race because of Elf Blood? And if so….so what? Elf blood be magical, natch you’d be a bit better off.
            I do think it is more class struggle myself, what with the be happy in your place and don’t think above your station type stuff XD

            Edit: Excepting Eowyn of course. She was the only one in the entire thing who went above her “place” and wasn’t horrifyingly killed for it, though her uncle was.

          • Left Coast Tom

            I think “elf blood be magical” is excessively simplified. Recall that Denathor was a Steward and not a King – the movies don’t explain why Gondor had no King, but Tolkien said a bit more in the appendix to the Lord of the Rings. They fell for a couple reasons, 1) inter-marriage with “lesser” races, and 2) abandoning scholarship and favoring war for the sake of war.

            Point one seems obvious.

            Point two…in the books and the movies Boromir was Denathor’s favorite, but it’s clear in the books that Faramir was Tolkien’s favorite.

          • Left Coast Tom

            (that is, point one seems obvious as part of the racism argument…)

          • I thought the king was killed off at some point and Aragorn’s family went into hiding?
            Or am I mixing that up with something else?
            Faramir was a better character XD Tolkien was not wrong. But then he wrote it that way so it makes sense.

          • Left Coast Tom

            In the timeline given in the appendix the last King died, and the Stewards assumed rule, generations before Aragorn.

            Aragorn was from the descendants of Isildur who ruled, and ultimately lost, “the northern kingdon” (Arnor). Gondor was the southern kingdom, and the kingship lasted a bit longer there.

            In the movie when Elrond urged Aragorn to “cast aside the ranger and be who [he] was born to be”, that was one area where the movie fucked up. It’s clear in the books that being a “ranger of the north” and “being King of Gondor” were things that belonged to the same person.

          • TBH, I read em but never got too into em XD New thing to learn!
            But it is weird, if he was decended from the North guys, how come he gets to rule Gondor then? Or was he related to both?

          • Left Coast Tom

            Isildur was the father of both the northern and southern kings.

          • Gotcha, that makes sense then.
            He was the dork who whapped off Sauron’s hand and then fell victim to the ring’s lure, right?

          • Left Coast Tom

            Yes. He was also the dude who wrote the manuscript Gandalf studied in Minas Tirith when he was uncertain what Frodo’s “ring” was.

          • I just fell down a wiki rabbit hole and am blaming you.
            Dude really did backstory like whoa

        • Thiazin Red

          Portia wins the worst death contest hands down though.

        • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

          Like they know what a play is.

          • The Play’s the thing!
            Just randomly shout that at them.

        • Tiny kaiju

          That would be a great big negatory, good buddy.

      • wait! what?

        Wait!

        What do you mean by that?

    • Me The People

      We can now troll these cretins just by wearing a Shakespeare T-shirt.

      • Left Coast Tom

        Cool! I have a few…

        • Me The People

          You could have Darwin on the back!

      • mancityRed6

        hell, yes

      • Tiny kaiju

        They would never put 2 and 2 together to get that it Shakespeare, ah never mind, you already know how that would end.

    • jesterpunk
      • mancityRed6

        it’s still fun to trawl the morons. come on now, if you don’t actually know they have learning disabilities…oh, wait, brainfart…yeah, ok. carry on.

    • Tiny kaiju

      What rock did this wriggling shit eater crawl out from under? ”Tis a pity you can’t one way dope slap people over the internet. Every time I feel slightly guilty about calling someplace Dumbfuckistan, someone asshole with a mobile device makes me reconsider.

    • 400 years old, you moran. The play is 400 years old. “Racist”, “socialist” and “globalist” weren’t in the dictionary, then. Hell, they barely even had dictionaries.

      I’m not even willing to accept the argument that because the production in question is in modern dress that such descriptions apply to the play, since the text is the same and you are bringing your own prejudices to the table. It is meant to make you reflect, not blindly double down on your world view.

      • Not to mention the play is about why political assassinations are a bad horrible no good thing

  • mancityRed6
  • mancityRed6

    the wind just picked up tenfold, I can hear it from inside…I’m headed back out..if you don’t hear from me send ribs and bacon.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    One more thing about our war on brown people:

    The “event” I was at today was organized — quietly — by several Catholic priests from Eastern Washington/Eastern Oregon, with the aid of a local Methodist minister (who provided meeting space) and and some Episcopalian, Lutheran, and Presbyterian ministers. I’m not a huge fan of religion, generally, but I give it to these guys (and the Methodist gal) for living their faith.

    • You’re doing awesome work

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Thanks, but I’m not doing much at all. My heroes are the people who are going out into the fields, the camps, the churches, and convincing these people that they can trust at least some Americans.

    • It’s nice to know that some spark of ‘liberation theology’ remains alive to counteract the evangelical ‘Christianity without Christ’.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        It is, even if being tarred with that brush is exactly why the priests are so quiet about it. I talked to one today. He worries what the Bishop would do if their role was publicized.

        • The Council of American Bishops has become a wholly-owned subsidiary of the GOP. I don’t even refer to myself as a ‘lapsed Catholic’ anymore.

          I still eat Sfingi on St Joseph’s Day, though.

        • Solidarity all over again.

      • 🛶🗣️ Mr Canoehead 🛶🗣️

        ‘Christianity without Christ.’ May I steal that?

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      One of my best friends works with the Episcopalian diocese here, and is the kindest, most giving, understanding, funny, loving person I’ve ever known. Deeply pro-choice. Goes to third world countries on missions to help the poverty-stricken. Listens with unending sympathy and wisdom when I talk about the terrible turmoil and horrors of having a young adult struggling with a wretched addiction. Laughs hilariously when I send her “Is this the one where we killed him?” Easter cards and sends me a card back saying, “No, this is the one where he came back HAHA”. Won the paddle race where she was paired with the Bishop, and fully recognizes the Monty Python of it all, as well. Living her faith. Being her faith. The Episcopalians have undergone a complete sea change in the past few decades, too. I’d almost join, and I’m a lapsed Jew.

  • Tiny kaiju

    V.v. OT just breezed in like a deflated ballon to share this~husband fish is playing DJ with the interwebz and played The Gap Band “You dropped the bomb on me”. Which I decided should have been Bill Clinton’s favorite band instead of whatever the fuck it was. The word band was in there, wasn’t it? I also announced that I should have never denied that I liked the BeeJees except I said I liked the BJs. Meh, It it’s funnier if you’re drunk and embarrassing your spouse.

  • memzilla Ω
    • A Groucho Marxist

      Holy shit. At my age, 63 isn’t even that old.

  • Gilly-Lad…

  • I am proud that i now know how to sign in ASL, applause, thank you, hung like a donkey, and fart noises.

    • The ASL sign for ‘bullshit’ is really funny.

    • Tiny kaiju

      What was the context of “hung like a donkey”? I’d like to think it was Mr. wrench from the Fargo tv series.

      • Well, i’m learning it from John Barrowman’s comic con panels, so it’s about cock size

        • mancityRed6

          forgo that last comment.
          *shuts the fuck up*

        • Thiazin Red

          That reminds me the new big finish torchwood audio is out, I need to download it.

        • ThanksSatan

          Did he discuss David Ten Inch?

          • Always. And most of the ones i’m watching are after his husband Scott flashed his cock on Facebook

          • ThanksSatan

            Scott flashed his own dick or flashed Barrowman’s dick? Either is awesome though I think half the planet has already seen Barrowman’s dick.

          • Scott flashed his.

          • ThanksSatan

            Nice. Finally Facebook was used properly.

          • ThanksSatan

            I have never seen a gay man get felt up by so many straight dudes either. I swear Barrowman is magic.

        • Tiny kaiju

          bein sûr. He’s so cool ( I need new adjectives. Please send some extras if you have any). Baarrowman might be the reason I finally start watching Arrow from the beginning.

          • I love Arrow, but there is some rough going, however, it’s easier to get into now than Supernatural (and Arrow really only needed about 6 episodes to click well, Supernatural was still having issues at the end of season one)

          • Thiazin Red

            I kind of want to watch Arrow for the mini Spartacus reunion.

          • Manu Bennett and Katrina Law are awesome whenever they show up

          • Tiny kaiju

            I agree. I tried Supernatural but maybe I should just jump further along in the series. I’ve heard that about Buffy too.

          • Season one did not age well. It was great when it was on

    • Thiazin Red

      What else do you really need?

      • I don’t really know

        • mancityRed6

          my glass is empty, how do you sign that?

        • Thiazin Red

          I’m pretty sure those things are an entire conversation.

    • Me The People

      So, enough for an international policy discussion with Donald Trump then.

    • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

      I first read this as you writing that you know how to sign in ASL, so everyone should applaud, then you thanked us, and then for some reason you informed us of your endowments, then made fart noises.

      • Bah. I r tired, and impossible to be hung like a donkey.

        • Cat Cafe for the Prosecution

          Oh, I liked the way I read it too! Was just teasing, mostly about my own lack of reading comprehension! And who knows what magnificence lurks in Pickwick’s secret love place????

  • Tiny kaiju

    For no good reason at all or maybe all the reasons.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvScx3Po8I

    • jaspersdad

      I love this song.

      • Tiny kaiju

        I forgot how much I liked this whole album.

  • alpacapunchbowl
  • mancityRed6

    the “storm” and I do use that term loosely, is going on.
    the cats don’t want to come outside now
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3218a2c2cb555c6edab5e51ea76a25c874573a4e579a4ea19cf5c374f950d18.jpg
    although Karl has some kind of special powers that doesn’t stop the storm
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06b7017b4149b57c1b4652ea076bd1489774ed20a1e14338ae9d9491be15d4c7.jpg
    the trees are waving in the breeze and I am just out of range of the rain.

  • Jayzus, lot of whiny Red Pillers in the Youtube comments for this video.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      I didn’t realize Red Pillers came in “non-whiny.”