The most comprehensive explanation of French technology we could find on short notice

With just a day to go before France’s presidential election on Sunday, hackers posted to the internet a huge mess of documents hacked from the campaign of centrist (or scary banker neoliberal, oh noes!) candidate Emmanuel Macron. The Macron campaign said the documents, posted to media sharing site Pastebin, included thousands of emails and other internal campaign documents, plus a lot of completely fake documents intended to make the campaign look bad.

The data dump was timed to come just before the mandatory cut-off of campaigning under French law, leaving the Macron campaign only enough time to release a brief statement condemning the maneuver before it was required to go silent; French media are also not allowed to report on the campaign during the day before polls open:

Article L49 of the electoral code states it is illegal to “broadcast to the public by any means of electronic communication anything that could be considered electoral propaganda” or for anyone to “bring to public attention any new element of electoral argument at a time when the target has no possibility to provide a useful response before the end of the election campaign”.

That’s a pretty neat trick! Unleash the ratfucking just in time for the ratfuckees to have little time to respond. Very lulzy! We’ll take a wild guess France may rethink that 24-hour news blackout law, which was intended to allow voters to reflect on their choices without a lot of campaign noise, but this time shut down the channels that could debunk the ratfucking.

Pre-election polling showed Macron with a huge lead over fascist-lite candidate Marine LePen, so the dump of hacked/faked documents is unlikely to significantly affect the election outcome; like other dirty tricks during the campaign, including good old fake news stories spread by 4chan morons, it seems instead intended to delegitimize Macron. The French paper Le Monde says the first documents were actually relayed through 4chan and on English-language Twitter accounts belonging to Trump fluffers. Yes, we’re paraphrasing.

The actual hacking, according to the statement by Macron’s En Marche! campaign, appeared to have taken place several weeks ago, and hit computer accounts belonging to the campaign itself and top staffers.

“Coming in the final hours of the campaign, this operation clearly amounts to democratic destabilisation as was seen in the United States,” it said, adding that En Marche! had “consistently been targeted by such initiatives” throughout the campaign.

It said “many false documents” had been added to genuine stolen documents on social media “in order to sow doubt and disinformation” as part of an operation “clearly intended to harm the movement”.

The authentic documents were all lawful, however, and “reflected the normal functioning of an election campaign”, the statement said. Their publication “does not alarm us as to the prospect of any questions being raised about their legality”.

Despite the campaigning blackout, a top official with Le Pen’s Front National party, Florian Philippot, asked on the Twitter machine — in the best “Just Asking” tradition — “Will the Macronleaks reveal anything that investigative journalism has deliberately killed?” Heck, he may even know a few things himself, if only he were allowed to say them, don’t you know.

And surprise, surprise, the hack of Macron’s campaign is probably linked to Russian intelligence, according to cybersecurity experts:

Vitali Kremez, director of research with New York-based cyber intelligence firm Flashpoint, told Reuters his review indicates that APT 28, a group tied to the GRU, the Russian military intelligence directorate, was behind the leak. He cited similarities with U.S. election hacks that have been previously attributed to that group.

APT28 last month registered decoy internet addresses to mimic the name of En Marche, which it likely used send tainted emails to hack into the campaign’s computers, Kremez said.

“APT 28” is another name for the hacking group also called “Fancy Bear,” which remains our favorite factoid of the Russian election hacking story.

So far, it doesn’t appear anything scandalous is included in the leaked documents, but as we learned from Russia’s hacking of the Clinton campaign, you don’t need a lot of actual facts to set off the looneybirds. But with the document dump coming within a day of the start of voting, we’re not sure even the most creative conspiracy fans have enough time to spin tiny threads in the emails into amazing stories of scandal. But even if they don’t get rolling until the votes are in, we’re sure the troll army will find something, like accusing Macron of leading a shadowy group of deviants who meet in a pizzeria’s basement to drink the wrong wines with everything, or perhaps a scandalous rumor that Macron hates Jerry Lewis. Also, has Macron ever coughed in public? Why is he denying his Parkinsons symptoms?

We’ll keep you updated as this story develops, particularly if we find out LePen has a foreign policy adviser named Michel LeFlynn.

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  • Anna Rompage

    Who knew James Comey also works over in France as well….

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Mais, ses e-mails!

    • calliecallie

      Jacques Comee with thingy over the e

  • Bill D. Burger
  • TJ Barke

    This shit should be considered an act of war.

  • memzilla Ω

    Reports indicate that the French are LESS FUCKING CREDULOUS than half of this country is.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Flying sheep! Sacre merde, I would have never thought of that!

  • SayItWithWookies

    “Waiter, there’s a monster in my democracy.”

  • Anna Elizabeth

    I spent my teen years preparing to kill Russians for a living, be it with warships or M1 tanks.

    I can do it if I have to, and the GOP seems to be in league with these Russians.

    • mfp

      …so–by extension–you’re also prepared to kill….ummmm…nevermind

      with votes, dammit, WITH VOTES!!!1!1!1!!111!

    • Shawn Renee Ernoehazy

      I just had a button that said, “mange merde, et morte.”

  • wait! what?

    Lazy Russian hackers. I bet there’s a copy of both “The DaVinci Code” and “Holy Blood, Holy Grail” in there along with bootleg copies of “Supernatural” episodes.

    • jesterpunk

      How long until he is invited to join the White House press pool?

      • tomamitai

        He should be invited to step into a very deep pool, wearing shoes made of concrete votes.

  • Vecchioivan

    je suis fukt
    tu es ”
    il/elle est ”
    nous sommes ”
    vous êtes ”
    Ils/elles sont “

    • Toomush_Inferesistance


    • David Chaillou

      Je l’ai dans le cul.
      Tu l’as dans l’os.
      Il/elle s’est fait entuber.
      Nous sommes baisés.
      Vous vous êtes fait niquer.
      Ils l’ont dans le fion.

  • Everrett Fanuelli

    All this Russian hacking is giving me bias against Russian hockey players. I’m starting to feel like Don Cherry

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      I’m having the same problem too. My wife has Russian friends and actually speaks Russian. Her friends refer to Putinists as “those Russians”. It keeps things straight in my head, so that might help.

      • Many of the Russians in the USA are very anti-Putin. Check out Gary Kasparov’s twitter feed

      • SisterArtemis

        well, #NotAllRussians, or probably #NotMostRussians. The evil bad dudes (and dudettes, I suppose) of any of these nations do not represent the place as a whole and we should get out of the habit of associating the place and its populace with responsibility for hacking and other fucked up behaviors. Still, there’s convenience to geographical connections (those Folks, in That Place!), so I know why we do it.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          Not even most Russians. The tricky parts here are two fold and this is still being insanely simplistic because I can’t even begin to understand.

          Russians complain without complaining. It’s part of their culture and has been for at least a few centuries.

          Russians hate attention. This two has been true for at least a few centuries.

          That means that it’s considered very unRussian to complain because it gets attention. That’s how it was explained to me, and that’s also the take-away I got from reading Mikhail Bulgakov.

    • The Wanderer

      So long as you don’t feel like Don Ho or Don Cornelius.

  • William
  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    The spinning started last night, I’m afraid. They’re saying Macron is guilty of “tax evasion”. Of course, the only people saying this on social media all have (not kidding) cyrillic usernames and of the ten profiles I checked, eight of them claimed residency in Serbia.

    • wait! what?

      Probably the last straw will be linking Macron to the “Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.”

      • David Chaillou

        Everyone knows he worked for Rotschild. Bringing in the protocols would be too much of a good thing.
        “Trop de cuisiniers gâtent la sauce”.

    • Everrett Fanuelli

      Yeah but that change the fact that Le Pen is guilty of being a inhuman POS

    • David Chaillou

      Look, we all know Macron is a front for finance and MEDEF. We expect him to be corrupt, would be surprised and even somehow disappointed if he turned out to be honest.

      We’ll vote for him anyway, because what choices do we have ? We are all in TSM mode anyway.

  • The Librarian

    I have a friend in France right now. If I get pictures, I’ll post.

  • DainBramage

    It’s obvious Putin has adopted a policy of regime change in the West, using the democratic process to destroy itself. Not sure how we get rid of him.

    • Roadstergal

      We had a presidential candidate Putin was pretty worried about – maybe elect them?

    • SisterArtemis

      I think you’ve nailed it, DainBramage – “a policy of regime change in the West” – not so much pro-Trump or specifically anti-Hillary, but definitely efforts pointed at destabilizing the West.

      • Courser_Resistance

        Trump was just the tool. A really skeevy tool,but a tool, nonetheless

    • tomamitai

      Make/encourage the people under him believe it’s to their advantage that he “retire”?

  • BloviateMe
    • Trump will see to it

    • ManchuCandidate

      Georgia O’Keefe is their weather lady?

    • The Wanderer

      This message courtesy of The Church of the Happy Vagina. “The Vagina Loves You!”

      • Amy!

        Man. “Taking communion” must be really something at TCHV!

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    To the extent that any French voters were still undecided, this bit of shameless ratfuckery by American loons will probably tilt the balance.

    • SeekingResistanceBarbie

      It’s getting tiresome having to apologize to the rest of the world about American loons and explain #NotAllAmericans.

    • tomamitai

      I thought they were Russian loons?

      • Nockular cavity

        “Just to be clear, we don’t have anything to do with this.”
        -Canadian loons

        • Latverian Diplomat

          As if those $1 coins didn’t prove your deep connections to the big banks!

        • TheBoatDude

          Can you hear the loons, Norman?

      • Latverian Diplomat

        I believe they are Russo-American loons, since the great loon alliance of 2016 was triumphant.

  • memzilla Ω

    DGSE roughly equivalent to our CIA, but with French-level dirty trickery.

    • Anna Elizabeth

      Get some, French soldiers. :) Make your Tradition’ shine. Send the Foreign Legion, as well.

    • tomamitai

      Ask Greenpeace about French retaliation.

    • The Wanderer

      DGSE is a nasty, nasty, nasty group of men and women.

      • Miles Monroe

        Waterboarding? Sleep dep? Pfffft–you get the jumper cables with those folks …

  • msanthropesmr
    • Contemplative Ron

      ‘Everyone should have ze hobby. Mine is making love!’

  • What Pierre said

    I’ve seen a couple few tweets (long-since lost to the sands of time, sorry) which said that if women don’t support LePen and/or Ivanka they are Bad Feminists and as Real Feminists we have to support all women in all their endeavours, no matter how morally abhorrent and/or complicit and/or morally bankrupt adjacent.

    First we’re damned for voting with our vaginas, then we’re damned for not voting with our vaginas. What’s a thinking vagina to do?

    • SisterArtemis

      This line of “support any woman just because she’s a woman” has been used against feminists for decades. I hate it, I resist it, I scoff at it, I stab it with sharp pointy objects, then I laugh at it and turn away. What drivel! But, unfortunately, persistent drivel.

      • What Pierre said

        I agree. I mean it’s not like men automatically support someone because he’s a man, do they?

        Um. Hmmmm. Welp, poor analogy, my bad.

        But seriously, it infuriates me too. It’s up there with the “all feminists are anti-man” and “I don’t call myself a feminist even though I’m for all the things feminists are for but, ya know, feminists are so shrill and stuff”. And, and, and…. Grrrrr

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          I’m a dude and I hate the use of “shrill” at all. In my mind, that’s a shitty thing to say. I’ve never heard that word applied to a male. Not ever.

          *ducking for cover*

          • What Pierre said

            I have, though unsurprisingly it was a gay man.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            I’ve heard “hawkish” (not “war hawk”, “hawkish” specifically) used about a man twice. Ever. Yeah.

          • Shalimar

            Krugman is the first male who comes to mind. But, I agree, the point of using the word is almost always to feminize and diminish.

    • MizzMazz

      What a crock of shit. I don’t have to support a woman just because she’s a woman, and no honest Feminist would ever say that. That’s what they say we do, “Oh, you like her because she’s a woman” No one in their right mind says that. It’s there to seed disruption. I don’t use my vagina for thinking, I use my brain for that.

      • What Pierre said

        Oh, it’s completely used to undermine feminism.

        And yes I do too, but I worry my lady brain is so weak and small that it needs help with the whole thinking thing /s

    • Anna Elizabeth

      “What’s a thinking vagina to do?”

      Simply tell stupid males to shut their pieholes. I need no male on this benighted planet to tell me How To Feminist.

      • What Pierre said

        Sadly, most of these tweets were from women (or said they were from women).

        • Anna Elizabeth

          Then tell them to shut *their* pieholes. I also need no woman to tell me how to be one.

        • Internalized misogyny

          • What Pierre said

            And they often seem so self-satisfied, like they send their tweets, lean back and say to themselves, “There, that’s an airtight argument, let’s see the feminazi’s counter that.”

      • Toomush_Inferesistance

        This. Why should men even be allowed to weigh in on subjects such as abortion or womens’ morality?..

        • Anna Elizabeth

          I don’t mind a dialogue on most issues, but yes, when it’s about my body, tread lightly indeed. Not intending any offense to you or the other men on Wonkette.

          • David Chaillou

            Hi Anna. Are you still blocking me ?

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Hi, no. :) How are you today?

          • David Chaillou

            Looking forward to the egg on the face of the alt-right loons tomorrow.
            Say, as a peace offering, would you be interested in a gift of that Patton vs. Panzers book ? Through Amazon.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            :) I hear that.

            You’re sweet, but you don’t have to do that. :) The thought is appreciated, though. :)

          • David Chaillou

            I can’t help being a jerk from time to time, but I try to be a nice jerk.
            Next time I piss you off, please tell me before blocking me. That way I’ll get a chance to apologize.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            It’s a deal. :) *shakes*

    • jowgajen

      They are being deliberately obtuse to the difference between a woman acting in her self-interest only and a woman acting in the larger interest of her community. It’s all part of their nihilistic world view where moral good is a myth.

      • What Pierre said

        I agree with you in all but the last few words. It seems to me most of these people believe moral good is entirely real, but only if the ‘moral good’ in question is theirs, defined and limned by them and their group. My moral good, if it differs from their by one iota, can take a flying leap and I must be condemned for it.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Well, if all vaginas were thinking vaginas, would there even be a next generation?…

      • What Pierre said

        There’s always turkey basters. Or parthenogenesis, though that’s a little more difficult.

        • We could always figure out how to fertilize an ovum with another ovum.

          • bupkus231

            Yeah, but there would still be the problem of passing a bowling ball sized head.

            Obvs, I am not a birth-giver, but that’s gotta hurt….

    • YoBunnyBunny

      What’s a vagina to do?

      Well, my vagina is going to bleed all over that noise, and then I’m going to flush it down the toilet where stupid ideas like that should go. Damn, I hate simpleminded asshats.

    • calliecallie

      I heard this argument so many times last year. Jesus, people, we have brains, we can think and make choices based on facts, not just gender alliance.

    • SterWonk

      Not vote at all, duh! 🙄

    • Shalimar

      That makes no sense. The mere fact that millions of women are diametrically opposed to everything Ivanka stands for means I can’t possibly support “all” women no matter what I do. It’s what happens when you’re talking about just over half the population. There can never be one universal position on anything.

      Since I have to make a choice, I choose to hate Ivanka, too.

  • Completely OT (but I waked and baked so…)

    Got my Oregon State income tax refund of 48 bucks and some change and before I just wasted it on weed, I sent it to my mental saviors here.

    Can’t make it to Tabor on Mondays cause I have one of those job things but be dry on the outside, folks!

    (hey, donate too, it didn’t hurt a bit…)

    • SisterArtemis

      How late do you work? I’m getting there late (6? 6:30ish), because work, so am hoping to hang with other late arrivals or Wonkers With Endurance if possible

      • I am stuck until at least 6:00 and work over in Beaverton
        The 217, 26, 405, 205, and 84 are all parkinglots at 6.

        • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

          Rent a Hummer and drive over the top of them.

          • JustDon’tSayFlatEarth

            See? We’re all about practical solutions!

        • SisterArtemis

          but at 6:30…. just sayin’….
          I’m thinking of getting off 205 once I get on the other side of the river and trying to scoot up 82nd/213, though I don’t know if that will be much better.

    • The Wanderer

      You are a worthy person.

    • phoenix00
  • Rags

    Red wine with fish? Quelle horreur!

    • Doug Langley

      “Red wine with fish. I should have guessed.”

      James Bond in From Russia With Love when his companion revealed he was a Soviet agent.

    • phoenix00

      Well if you made a heavily spiced halibut, I could see that working…..

    • Thiazin Red

      Depends on how you cook it. I’ve had plenty of fish dishes that worked with reds.

  • The Librarian

    UM, wtf?

    May 3, 2017 — New Cosponsors

    H.R. 1881: Child Welfare Provider Inclusion Act of 2017

    New Cosponsor: Rep. Virginia Foxx [R-NC5]

    New Cosponsor: Rep. Mark Meadows [R-NC11]

    New Cosponsor: Rep. John Moolenaar [R-MI4]

    New Cosponsor: Rep. John Rutherford [R-FL4]

    The bill now has 27 cosponsors (27 Republicans).

    • Anna Rompage

      Yep, basically it would allow religious organizations, that receive federal funds to offer welfare services to minors, to discriminate and deny services to minors if they are queer… And bans states from withholding funds from these organizations based on the organizations right to practice their “religious freedom”…

      • The Librarian

        The minute I saw Meadows’ name I knew it had to be ugly.

        • Anna Rompage

          Yeah, pretty much anytime the words “religious freedom” are contained in an official bill, it’s either to allow the group to discriminate against the gays, or be allowed to ban birth control to their public employees.

          Personally, IMHO anytime a religious charity is receiving public funds for the services they provide, should not be able to discriminate, or force their religious ideals onto the people in their charge..

          • The Librarian

            Absolutely. Public funds for the public good should not come with a “free” ounce of proselytizing.

        • TJ Barke

          And that vile cunt, Virginia Foxx.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Well, that one is a “see you in court” for sure.

        • Anna Rompage

          Hopefully so…

        • phoenix00

          Yeeeeah how many constitutional amendments does this rip to shreds?

          • Skeptical_thinker

            All it takes is one.

    • The Wanderer

      Of course. All Republicans.

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        It always is.

        Hate is not bipartisan these days.

  • memzilla Ω
    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      Every time I see this, I think, rightfully so, this:

      Midnight, the stars and you.

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    • These guys, also too:

      (Uniform of the Milice, the Vichy regime’s fascist goon squad.)

      • Gregory Brown

        So, so fascist and Frenchy.

  • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

    OT but hysterical all the same.

    The Evolution of Douchebag Stye.

    There’s a lot of reasons I never had any of these.

    • DainBramage

      The upside-down visor is the best!

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        The backward sunglasses kills me. I’ve never done that. It just doesn’t seem practical or comfortable.

    • Anna Rompage

      I thought that was Justin Beiber for a second…

    • Koch Blockula

      Oh dear dog, that manbun…

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        IK,R? That drives me crazy and I cannot wait for that fad to pass.

    • phoenix00

      Well I’m about to go get my hair cut. Thanks for the handy guide on what to avoid!

  • mancityRed6

    so my dream last night, I was going to help some people move. they had a U Haul. it was 2 stories tall, a bed area behind the front seats, and somehow, a bedroom and a hall in the upstairs. and two sets of stairs. I remember I made a joke about how I needed to get one to live in.

    • The Wanderer

      That’s an interesting mental image.

      • mancityRed6

        I do remember I made a joke about it being bigger on the inside.

        • The Wanderer


  • mancityRed6

    and this
    has finally happened. I’m not even gonna talk about all the hate they’ll get now that Roland is a blah. I’m just gonna say I’ll be seeing it, in the theater. anyone around Olathe that wants to make it an event, let me know.

    • The Wanderer

      If King had any input on casting choices for the movie, do you think he might want to troll the Trumpers, alt-righties and racist shitheels? Personally, I think it’s inspired casting.

      • mancityRed6

        when I read the books I imagined a crusty cowboy sort of like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns, but I am not disappointed.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          Well, that’s also how Bernie Wrightson (RIP) drew Roland. It’s different, but inspired.

          To me it’s no different than casting Morgan Freeman as Red in The Shawshank Redmeption.

          idris Elba’s a great actor and he will nail this!

      • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

        Alt-righties and racists would never have seen this anyway. To appreciate this, you’d have to, y’know, read a thing. They’d never get this anyway.

      • mancityRed6

        considering what he’s said about tRump, and the fact that he definitely holds all the cards at this stage of the game, I’m not gonna doubt it.

      • Mysterious Masked Wrestler

        One of the main character in the book’s already black, and the only prominent love relationship in the series is between her and a white guy. Any racist who loves the Dark Tower has two things seriously wrong with them.
        …Of course, it won’t stop idiots from trying to start shit, because that’s what they do, but fuck them.

    • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

      I have to see this too! I have watched this trailer eight times since it dropped. Idris Elba is perfect for this!

      I love all the easter eggs in the trailer. There’s the Overlook Hotel photo on the wall in the doctor’s office, the Pennywise sign in the wasteland, the “crimson king” nod to Randall Flag, which not a lot of people would catch. It’s going to be brilliant.

      • mancityRed6

        jeebus, not I need to watch it again as I did not see any of those.

        • Pre-Existing Condition Jack

          It took eight times for me to catch them all and I was kinda looking for them.

    • jaspersdad

      I read the entire series last year and I’m looking forward to this movie!

      Idris Elba is perfect for this role.

      • mancityRed6

        I started the first book way back in ’85 when my parents bought it for me. I caught up the the bulky paperbacks, and the first ex bought them all for me in hardback in ’04 as a xmas gift.
        I’ve been waiting for this.

        • jaspersdad

          I read part of the first book years ago and never had time to finish it until I was laid up last year with an injury.

          I’ve taken a liking to fantasy since and am now halfway through the Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson. 10 books in the series, some over 800 pages.

    • Contemplative Ron

      Oh, please, let them get this RIGHT… it is IMO King’s best work, and deserves to be treated with respect. But if the trailers are honest then I think there’s nowt to worry about there.
      I know Roland is patterned after The Man With No Name, but I just watched Idris Elba BEING Roland. Wow.

      • mancityRed6

        I’m gonna go in with an open mind. There’s no way they can equal the decade I spent reading those books and the imagination that took hold. But if it comes even close, I’m good.

        • Contemplative Ron

          It would seem that the story picks up just after the end of book seven, since Roland now has the Horn of Arthur Eld, so while it will have the shape of the story we know the details will be different. Rather clever, actually. I might be even more pumped now!

  • Carpe Vagenda

    Stop the motherfucking presses, Glenn Greenwald has had an epiphany

    • ltmcdies

      Glenn didn’t write it, I notice.

      • Carole

        Looks like he used an auto-translator, and spelled many words wrong.

        • ltmcdies

          yeh….not terribly bright our “Jacques”…

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Muricans don’t need no foreign language learnin’.

        • Sakonyachen

          Or domestic language learnin’

          • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

            Good point!

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Oh, splain me. I can barely find the pen of my aunt near the library window in Dakar in french.

        • ltmcdies

          Monsieur Jacques is claiming the above is a life insurance when it’s actually some form of professional insurance common in France…I read some stuff on the tweeter last night about Americans who barely literate in English attempting to translate French emails and documents…this guy explains it…just have hit translate

          • Carole

            Jack Posobiec = le putain de Putin.

  • Thaumaturgist

    If preventive care is unavailable, obstetrics cases and emergency room cases will be more severe and treatment will be more risky. That will cause higher malpractice premiums for obstetricians and emergency physians, and discourage practice in those fields.

    EDIT: This comment is on the wrong thread. Sorry.

    • The Wanderer


    • Chris

      That’s OK. It will also directly increase hospital costs.

    • but it was amusing in the midst of all this francophilia.


  • FDRliberal

    “And surprise, surprise, the hack of Macron’s campaign is probably linked to Russian intelligence, according to cybersecurity experts…”

    The Russians are openly funding Le Pen and it’s no surprise that they, and their pet monkey – the feces flinging Julian Assange, are going after Macron. The Russians are creditors to not only Le Pen, but to the Orange Scumbucket as well. Getting easily manipulated fascist toadies into power is their primary aim.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      And also magnifying their voice with endless trolls on Twitter, etc.

    • Carole

      I’m sorry for Macron, but this certainly is evidence of Assange’s/Putin’s pattern and practice. And I think he will win, anyhow.

  • ltmcdies

    and the French newspaper Le Monde response….no publish/comment on what’s in leaks til after the election….hey America media…

    • Me The People

      CNN, NYT, Wapo etc take note!

      • Carole

        Yeah. Quislings.

      • Chris

        Add MSNBC to the list. However much I enjoy Rachel Maddow, the coverage during the Primaries and then the General was incredibly biased. Chris Hayes had crawled so far up Sanders ass that he was broadcasting from Sanders colon. On the one hand, broadcasting from what could be considered a remote location was sort of an impressive feat, it really skewed his reporting with a significant anti-Clinton bias.

        • Snopes Shop


    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted


  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • eyelashviper

      I was late, but tweeted them anyway.

  • Me The People

    This is where the fascist train comes off the tracks. Despite all their dirty tricks, Le Pen is gonna lose big – she is way too far behind and this bullshit less that 48 hours before the vote isn’t going to change that. Really looking forward to having a major win against the right to celebrate on Sunday night.

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Damn, I hope so, too..

    • calliecallie

      We all thought Hillz would win too. Just saying.

      • Perkniticky

        The polls in the US were within the margin of error. Macron is around 20 points ahead of Le Pen, way outside the margin of error. Just saying.

      • VirginiaLady

        Do they have something like the Electoral College? Les Ecole des Merde? Or do their citizen’s votes count?

        • calliecallie

          Excellent point. I have no idea.

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            It’s pure democratic voting here. The winner of the most votes will be the president.

          • ez

            paper ballots or electronic voting?

          • Martini Ambassador 🍸

            Hmm, good question. I am not a citizen, so I’ve never been to a French polling station. I would guess it’s paper in most of the country (seing as there are about a gazillion tiny municipalities) and maybe electronic in the cities, but that’s just a hunch. I will ask some of my neighbors and report back.

          • ez

            Just heard the ‘good guy’ won, he snagged 65% of the vote in doing so too!

    • and now we do (and i felt the exact same way – it’s a french fuck you to trump)

  • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

    So, here’s my idea:
    (1) All decent politicians, especially Democrats, STOP USING EMAIL. Seriously. Either use ultra-private servers, you know, like an intelligent, qualified candidate might, or simply have other ways of communicating. Create our own unhackable network.
    (2) For the rest of us: why don’t we just start ruthlessly blocking and reporting trolls, never responding to them? I know Twitter will never do anything, but if we all reported them consistently, there would be a critical mass of complaints that surely they’d have to respond to. More importantly: if enough of us block trolls, they won’t be able to see our posts, and they will eventually only have each other’s posts, a troll Twitter if you will, and we’ll have our own non-troll Twitter.

    • That’ll give Dok some well deserved personal time.

    • I am not sure blocking prevents others from seeing your posts

      • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

        No, it prevents them. But if we reach a critical mass of all of the decent people blocking them, after a while, they won’t be able to see anything other than other trolls.

    • Lefty Wright

      I learned a long time ago to never put anything you do not want known publicly in an email. I learned this not because of hacks, but so many people cc anybody and everybody without bothering to read all the way down the chain, especially at work. Some people seem to think the more people they copy, the more important they are. Fortunately I was not caught in anything embarrassing, but someone else was. If I have anything sensitive to discuss, it is always by phone or in person. And nothing I discuss would ever be of interest to anyone monitoring off of a FISA warrant.

      • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

        Right? Me too, for years! I can’t understand why politicians, especially in this day and age, haven’t realized this. It’s insane! The second you send it over the internet, you lose control of it–not the least because you can never rely on what your recipient will do with it, but obviously in the case of politics, because of hacking. Russian hackers are waging cyberwarfare and our politicians are simple-minded fools at this point. Gee, if only we’d had a candidate who recognized this, and used a far more secure, private server…..

        • amen. but i came of business / professional age pre internet. we had to sign confidentiality agreements and shred client docs.

          it certainly informed the way i think about email. or anything internet based.

          • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

            Yes, exactly! Me too. The young uns and millenials make fun of us old fogies and how we don’t “understand tech,” but turns out we actually understand it a whole lot better than they do….

          • You know i was at a sweet spot with tech. I’m old enough to have had a smattering of programming. And i worked with computers / data before smartphones and apps. So i have general understanding of what’s going on in the background. And because we’ve seen so many changes, our learning curve is really fast.

            I currently run ACA teams and work with fresh faced idealists just out of college. I find I’m oddly more tech savvy than they are. Admittedly most of them are liberal arts majors, but still…

      • TheBoatDude

        Politicians don’t get that. It’s always “After we murder the maid, we’ll bugger those underage kids from Thailand, and then we’ll receive the cocaine…Sincerely, Senator Skippy McTitopuente.”

  • Me not sure
    • The Wanderer

      Ici mon colleague, le peuf celebre, Jean-Brian Zatapatique!

  • Martini Ambassador 🍸

    Was hella-busy all day, so posting late, but my fave part about all this is the RWNTroll brigade on social media whinging about how the press blackout and 4Chan throttle is a violation of 1st Amendment free speech. Yeah, here in France, they actually have their own laws. Fans of the US Constitution, but not adherents.

    • phoenix00

      “Liberté, égalité, fraternité” or Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. The French constitution derives from this.

  • DL

    Tellingly, right after this hit French media, Wikileaks immediately went on the defensive implying they had nothing to do with it and that anyone complaining about it must have something to hide, just like Clinton.
    Of course, this blatant support of fascism will go completely unnoticed/forgiven by most of the regressive left who still think that Wikileaks’ nonsensical support of the far right is somehow seen as some kind of hacktivist victory for anti-imperialism or some other bullshit.. PUT ON YOUR GUY FAWKES MASKS AND CALL PEOPLE “SHEEPLES”, MAAAAAANNNN……

    • eyelashviper

      Yep, gotta call out all those neolibrul/oligarchbuttkisser/Hillarybots/Obamalovers/corporatestooges cause WE ARE SO FUGGIN’ PURE!!!!

      Sigh, when the few survivors of the Trumpapocalypse finally look around, they will see the the rag taggle group screeching, “but, but, Hillary would be worse!!”

      • Marceline

        As they leave offerings at the temple of Sanders and Assange.

        • Edith Prickly

          The Steinheads will all be dead – not because of the Trumpocalypse, because they wouldn’t get vaccinated.

    • phoenix00

      But that’s not what we’re saying…..

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “In Russia, we do not like this term, how you say, ratfucking. Seems dishonorable way to treat valuable food animal.”
    — An impoverished Russian utterly devoted to his billionaire leader Putin

    “What’d you say there, Ivan? You talk so funny I can’t understand you one whit.”
    — An impoverished American utterly devoted to his “billionaire” leader Trump

    • bonefish

      “Whit”? Naaaahhhhhh. It’d be “You talk you some ‘murrican, not that furrin shit.”

  • Latverian Diplomat

    In Russia, rules protect bad guys from you.

  • Perkniticky

    Fortunately the French don’t use social media as much as the Anglo Americans, so they probably will not be much affected. But what is really crazy is all the useful idiot American alt-right trolls. Why are they messing around in another country’s election? I mean, how would they feel if a bunch of French socialist trolls tried to influence our election? And why are they doing all this electioneering work for free, anyway? I guess they feel part of some global revolution or something, but they just look like exploited, unpaid drones to me. Except they’re exploiting themselves. Millennials are weird.

    • Well, they did not seem to care that the russians messed in the election here….

  • boyblue122

    Three things that are different from the US election:

    1. No Comey interference
    2. Majority of votes wins
    3. Massive lead by Macron

    I wont be panicking

    • ltmcdies

      also pointed out by French nationals on the tweeter … no FOX News ginning up the story.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      James Comey can rot in hell as far as I’m concerned.

      • Parakeetist


  • BigBoppa ~ Résistent

    My daughter in law schlepped to the French embassy to vote today.

    BTW. I mentioned a while back that she was going to take her citizenship exam but I don’t think I ever reported back how it went. She passed with flying colors and is very excited about voting in her first US election in ’18.

  • Marceline

    The Kremlin has got this down to a science. Gin up the far right with fake news and xenophobia, find an useful idiot on the far left to act as a spoiler then get hackers to leak selected material. I hope and pray France learns from our mistake.

    • Chris

      Well it worked so well in the US. You had the alt-left with Stein and Sanders. You had the alt-right with Trump. You then had a hostile Russia interfering and James Comey with his personal animus of Bill Clinton that he took out on Hillary Clinton. It was a perfect storm.

      France has one advantage, Macron isn’t a woman so he has a shot.

      • Bad Tom

        Also the French campaign isn’t two years long.

  • nightmoth

    This is really freaky! How can anybody in this country see this and still think we have a legitimate presidency?

    • gkshenaut

      By “this country” do you mean : La France ? Les États-Unis d’Amérique ? La Russie ? Or tous les trois ?

      • nightmoth


      • ken_kukec

        Tout d’eux, Katie.

        (I know, but still.)

    • freakishlypersistent

      They think Fox is “news”.

      • nightmoth

        Yes. There is that. Fox News and Rush Dildo have all but destroyed our democracy.

    • TheBoatDude

      Zombie Jesus and his invisible dad told them so…

  • jaspersdad

    Even Wikileaks are backing off this one – the fingerprints of youknowho are too obvious.

    WikiLeaks‏@wikileaks 6h6 hours ago

    #MacronLeaks assessment update: several Office files have Cyrillic meta data. Unclear if by design, incompetence, or Slavic employee.

  • JD Mulvey

    Apparently Putin wasn’t clever enough to have a white-haired old Socialist hanging around to reinforce Ms. Le Pen’s oppo talking points.

    He will never make that mistake again.

  • gkshenaut

    So post-Soviet Russia appears to be intent on defining itself as “the country that covertly meddles in other countries’ elections more than any other”. It’s an odd niche they’ve chosen for themselves. Much less classy than “the second most powerful nation on Earth”, which was what Soviet-era Russia never stopped struggling to be.

  • ken_kukec

    The French elect this Penist termagant, it’s over for me and my Francophilia. No way she can govern a nation with 246 varieties of cheese. I’ma get all “freedom fries” on their derrieres.

  • Paperless Tiger

    The weird thing is, when they hack someone, which is a crime, it tends to makes people vote against the victim and therefore in favor of the criminals. What is wrong with these people?

    • HazooToo

      “They must have done something wrong, otherwise they wouldn’t have gotten hacked.” Sort of sounds like “Why were you wearing a tube top if you didn’t want to have sex?”

  • Lefty Wright

    Sounds just like the release of the hacked DNC and Posta emails. They contained nothing I would not expect to see in a political organization, including some personal criticism of Bernie after he started accusing the DNC of plotting his defeat. Even the possible release of two debate questions is weak. Telling Clinton she may get a question about the water in Flint Michigan. At a debate IN Flint. That’s shocking. Who would ever guess THAT question would come up. Then that she may get a question on capital punishment. Which she had addressed in interviews just weeks earlier. So Clinton, being an intelligent and alert politician, already had a canned response to that should anyone ask. So those are the worst items that came from those emails. Not counting the child sex ring in the non-existent basement of a pizza restaurant, of course. And none of this was instigated by Clinton. But listening to even the main stream media with their edited snippets of selected emails made it sound like it was a criminal conspiracy. Almost like the real criminal conspiracy by Trump and his campaign to tamper with and subvert the election process.

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  • andyshelt

    Breaking News:

    A spokesman for the Macron campaign responds to the hackers!

  • Christopher Reeve’s Antibodies

    How is it, that after months of hysteria from the US about Russia meddling in their elections, not a single US news network has shown consistency by applying the same hysteria to US’s open meddling in the French election, by virtue of Obama endorsing Macron?

    Obama is easily your best post-WW2 President for domestic policy (factoring in that he faced much tougher opposition than LBJ, the other obvious contender – though I’d say the ‘real’ Nixon, as opposed to the ‘villain that US democracy needs to have’ Nixon (THAT Nixon is a truly monstrous individual; thankfully it was the moderate who calmed the cold war and normalised relations with China who got elected) is a surprising 3rd place). But even so, he’s centre-right by the standards of every other Western nation. And it still underlines that the US – even the US left – assumes US exceptionalism, i.e. that you (not the UN, who could plausibly have a moral claim to the role) are the righteous judge and executioner of other sovereign nation states.

    It’s the same mentality that allows you to forget your war victims every 4-8 years (hey, Libya/Iraq/Vietnam was the OTHER guys, not us, I mean it sucks that there’s open slave trade in Libya now, but we’ve had an election since then, so it’s no longer relevant – reparations? Oh…we keep forgetting to explain that those are only for other US citizens, and that it’s morally worse for one’s ancestors to hurt a US citizen’s ancestor 200 years ago, than for one’s government to kill millions and destroy your country 5 years ago).

    Yes, it’s another pointless rant on a site that’s mostly for domestic US consumption. But you guys barely travel (not your fault – back in 2000 I was shocked to learn that you guys only get 2 weeks annual leave – I remember sitting in a backpacker’s hostel surrounded by Brits, French, Germans and Spaniards all in equal disbelief at hearing how the ‘rich nation’ tradition of taking a year off to travel the world is viewed as a career-killer in the US. Not nearly as shocked as the French were whenever a French-Canadian traveller insisted on calling themselves ‘French’, but that’s a mighty high hurdle to clear…) so how else can we reach you?

    I’m genuinely sorry that your country has gone to hell over the past few decades. There’s a whole planet of left-solidarity, that has made real gains during that time. US media only reports the failures, like Venezuela (whereas our media reported 20 years ago the problems with Chavez failing to establish a sovereign wealth fund, and how that’s necessary for socialism in an oil-based economy) – never the Hawke/Keatings or the Carlssons, and the practical work of establishing a functional and wealthy democratic socialism.

    What I’m getting at, is that you’re the LAST country that should be interfering with other sovereign nations. And yet you just assume the right to do so – casually endorsing candidates, and militarily invading. Russia annexes a 98% Russian speaking province at their invitation following a NATO-backed violent coup in Kiev, and Russia is RIGHTLY called upon to justify it. Yet you guys can’t even conceive of having to justify your interventions to anyone but your own voter-base. The idea of UN peacekeepers lining US streets is, for you, an intrinsic wrong – while you expect everyone else to take it as an intrinsic right.

    If that’s being too idealistic, I accept it. But please, if you’re not going to stop intervening in other nations (or at least withdraw all troops inside your own borders – or, hell, offer Russia the same deal for BOTH of you to close all foreign military bases; they’ll take that offer, as they only have one and you have hundreds, to remind the locals that you’re already occupying them just in case the locals vote the wrong way), stop being so sanctimonious when others do the same.

    Put it this way: if you were a citizen of any nation other than America, and you discovered that your government WASN’T actively trying to manipulate US elections, wouldn’t you consider that a grave dereliction of responsibility?

    • Major_Major_Major

      You do understand there is a significant difference between endorsing a candidate, and ratfucking someone. And yes the Estados Unidas has a storied history of shitpot stirring.
      Next time don’t be so prolix, and in the time being feel free to fuck yourself.

      • i’mjustaskingthequestion

        You sir…are on point!

  • Bitter Scribe

    I can just imagine what would turn up if the e-mails of the Le Pen campaign were hacked and subjected to the same kind of scrutiny. It would probably involve lots of Nazi sympathy and nostalgia for the gas chambers.

    • iceweasels

      Pretty much. Yet I heard a TYT anchor say just the other day if LePen won it had NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM, because “banking connections.”

      • Bitter Scribe

        And integrity in gaming journalism too.

        • iceweasels

          Exactly. And they won’t admit it. And they expect to build a diverse voting coalition. Ain’t gonna happen unless they get their minds right.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    The NYT has a nice piece explaining – for those who still don’t get it – that the shitty “health care” bill has nothing to do with health . . . and everything to do with tax cuts.

  • wapo projecting macron on course to win.

    please be correct wapo. the world doesn’t need any more trump victories.

  • AJ Milne

    Et ta soeur, Vlad.

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