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Yesterday, President PussGrab signed legislation that will leave thousands of vaginas un-grabbed. PLOT TWIST!

Thanks, Obama!

On December 14, 2016, the Obama Department of Health and Human Services enacted a rule barring states from withholding federal Title X family planning funds from any provider “for reasons other than its ability to provide Title X services.” Effective January 18, 2017, the rule prevented states from refusing to reimburse Planned Parenthood for healthcare provided at their centers. No Title X funds are used for abortion, but anti-choice loons will happily take healthcare away from hundreds of thousands of women if they can close a few Planned Parenthood Clinics. Because all life is sacred!

Under the Congressional Review Act, simple majorities in the House and Senate can repeal rules enacted within the past sixty days. Had President Obama acted earlier, the rule would have been more difficult to undo. But on March 30, Vice President Pence broke the tie in the Senate repealing the DHHS rule on a simple majority, and yesterday Trump signed the bill.

Wait A Minute, Wasn’t There Some Other Law? I Feel Like We Read 50 Stories About Judges Saying NOPE

That was about pulling Medicaid funding from Planned Parenthood. Totally different and yet sort of the same, and we will get to that later!

Why You Mad, Girl?

Knowing that this bill is wildly unpopular, Republicans largely responded by saying, “We love mothers! And have you seen that Mother of All Bombs in Afghanistan? Ain’t she purtee?”

Sean Spicer used his best robot voice to tout his support for…states rights???

This resolution that he signed today overturns a regulation that was put in place by the previous administration on their way out the door that would have taken away the right of states to set their own policies and priorities for Title X family planning programs. Our federal system was set up to allow states to address the unique needs of their own populations when possible especially when it comes to programs as important and sensitive as family planning. With the bill signing, the president has restored respect to states’ rights on this particular issue.

Ummm, okay. In the fantasy world where women will still get the exact same care somewhere else, states are supposed to be able to use federal health care funds as a weapon against healthcare providers?

Paul Ryan is a better liar. (Sorry, Spicey. If your friends won’t tell you…)

This is a major pro-life victory. Today, another Congressional Review Act bill undoing harmful Obama regulations becomes law. H.J. Res 43 voids a regulation that forces states to use Title X money to fund Planned Parenthood. Taxpayers should not be forced to fund abortion, plain and simple. We remain united and steadfast in our commitment to life and religious liberty.

Taxpayer money DOES NOT fund abortion, and has not since the Hyde Amendment was passed in 1976. Which these assholes know perfectly well.

But that horrible woman from Susan B. Anthony List really does win the day for vicious bullshit.

“The resolution signed today simply ensures that states are not forced to fund an abortion business with Title X taxpayer dollars,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of SBA List. “Rather, states have the option to spend money on comprehensive healthcare clinics that better serve women and girls.”

This lady has got some balls to say that this bill frees up abortion funding so now we can really fund women’s health.

Here on Planet Earth

Let’s just pretend that the Republicans’ goal here is to prevent abortions, rather than just generally to kick women in the crotch. (It’s a stretch, but play along.) When Texas cut family planning funds across the board in 2011, they did succeed in closing 53 Planned Parenthood Offices. But since abortion care is largely paid for in cash, offices that perform abortions were unaffected by Texas’s cuts.

None of the Planned Parenthood clinics formerly involved with the Women’s Health Program provided abortions, either—Texas has never allowed abortion clinics to participate in WHP. And under the Hyde Amendment, public health providers can’t use federal funding to administer abortions, anyway. “Ironically, this whole conversation is about abortion services, and yet clinics providing abortions in this state were untouched by these cuts,” says [Planned Parenthood of Greater Texas VP of community affairs Sarah] Wheat.

In reality, there are no alternative providers to pick up the slack if Republicans succeed in shutting down Planned Parenthood. According to the Guttmacher Institute

In 332 of the 491 counties that Planned Parenthood health centers served in 2010, Planned Parenthood served at least half of the women obtaining publicly supported contraceptive services from a safety-net health center. In 103 of these counties, Planned Parenthood sites served all of these clients. […] A 2016 survey of clients at Title X–funded health centers reinforces the importance of Planned Parenthood to the women it serves. Twenty-six percent of clients at a Planned Parenthood site reported that it was the only place they could get the services they need.

That Dannenfelser Woman would have you believe that this will increase women’s access to healthcare, when nothing could be farther from the case. Every year, Planned Parenthood takes care of 38% of patients receiving Title X funding. How many stories of women being referred to dentists, nursing homes, and school nurses do we need before we stop pretending there are tons of providers who can pick up the slack without PP? I read online that the Tooth Fairy has a side hustle providing pap smears!

But Title X is just the warm-up act for the big show, which is Congressional Republicans’ wet dream of withholding Medicaid funding from Planned Parenthood. In 2015, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy asked the CBO to calculate how much the gubmint would save if they actually pulled out of PP like they promised. Spoiler alert: It will cost millions.

Because the costs of about 45 percent of all births are paid for by the Medicaid program, CBO estimates that additional births that would result from enacting such a bill would add to federal spending for Medicaid. In addition, some of those children would themselves qualify for Medicaid and possibly for other federal programs. In the first few years in which federal funds for Planned Parenthood would be prohibited under the bill, CBO estimates the number of births in the Medicaid program would increase by several thousand per year. CBO expects that the number of additional births would decline over time as beneficiaries found other health care providers from which to receive family planning services. Nevertheless, the bill would increase the number of births in each year over the 2016-2025 period. CBO estimates, in total, the bill would increase direct spending for Medicaid by $20 million in 2016, by $130 million in 2017, and by $650 million over the 2016-2025 period. 

After which, Republicans decided it would be better to let women get their damn healthcare, since cutting PP would be massively expensive, wouldn’t prevent abortions, and would leave millions of women without a medical provider.

JK!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!! No, it’s full speed ahead for these fuckers. If they can’t grab you by the pussy, they’re sure as hell going to kick it as hard as they can.

[Federal Register /  Paul Ryan’s Lyinass Website / Washington Examiner / Mother Jones / CBO Letter to Fearless Leader McCarthy / Newsweek]

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  • Mpeg

    We’re gonna need a bigger ‘bortionplex..

  • ManchuCandidate

    “I felt a great disturbance in the US Amercia, as if millions of mostly white-lady-voters-who-voted-for-the-GOP-and-Trump’s voices suddenly cried out in terror/shock/dismay and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.”

    • Bobathonic

      Fuck those assholes. They signed up to have terrible things happen to them, this is just an installment.

    • Jenny

      Ha, like they’re paying attention. They won’t get it until they can’t find a planned parenthood to help them.

  • memzilla Ω

    Funny, I seem to have missed seeing the staged photo-op of him signing THIS bill.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
    • calliecallie

      Are WH visitor logs the new Nixon audio tapes?

    • NastyBossetti

      It’s just so absurd to even mention how much it would save us. When I saw that figure, I thought it meant per year, and even then it was a minuscule amount of money in the grand scheme of our federal government. It’s $70k total over the next several years?!

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        It’s Nunes of your bidness.

  • Chadwells

    Snark running on fumes….

  • “Rather, states have the option to spend money on comprehensive healthcare clinics that better serve women and girls.”

    By which we mean, the “Jesus Bible Faith Healing Center for Taking Care of you and your Slut Baby.”

  • tapp_my_wire,please

    ‘Our federal system was set up to allow states to address the unique needs of their own populations’
    Your California borne STD will just cure itself once you move to Texas.

  • memzilla Ω

    With the bill signing, the president has restored respect to states’ rights on this particular issue.

    Any Rethuglican using the phrase “states’ rights” needs to be voted upside the head repeatedly, with extreme votey-ness.

  • Jenny

    I hope Trump has a viagra malfunction.

    • Chadwells

      He IS a vagina malfunction.

      • WotsAllThisThen

        His wife certainly doesn’t see any reason to spend the night with him.

        • Lambsendbeds

          Too bad it costs the taxpayers and the City of New York 30 million Ameros a month so that they can have REALLY separate bedrooms.

    • Gayer Than Thou

      Pretty sure Melon has replaced his Viagra with Sominex. I would.

      • wide_stance_hubby

        He never asks why a Viagra pill would say, ‘Flintstones Chewables’ because he is that dumb.

        • Gayer Than Thou

          And anyway, they taste good, so why argue?

          • wide_stance_hubby

            “Oh, Donalt, still soft? Take a few more. . .”

          • ahughes798

            I loved those things….polished off a half a bottle of them when I was 4. My mother was pretty pissed at herself for not hiding them well enough.

      • Claire

        If only she’d replace it with something a little more enterprising, like votes.

    • Shibusa
      • MynameisBlarney

        Did you see how many terrorists they got with that one?

        36.

        Allegedly.

        Roughly 450k per terrorist.

        • Shibusa

          I seriously doubt they even got one. If they did hit an actual “target”, how did they come up with a tally? 20,000-pounds of explosives isn’t going to leave much evidence of who/what was killed. (This will probably turn out like the Yemen raid–first Trump claimed it was great and they got all kinds of great “intelligence” and later it turned out that 1 commando was killed, others were injured, 10 kids got killed, including an infant and an 8 year old American girl…Oh and they got no useful intelligence.)

          • WotsAllThisThen

            And if true, where will ISIS find 36 new recruits to refill the cave complex? Anywhere they want.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yes.
            Amazing how the media is so silent about Yemen, innit?

          • Lord Jim

            Appalling. The Yemeni raid should be the context the MSM constantly brings up when bloviating about Trump’s attempt to bolster support thru military action.

          • @MrsRazor66

            The botched Yemeni raid killed more people then Bengazi, yet we hear nothing about it and no investigation. Also, it was poorly planned and executed and Trump was at dinner while it happened. Why is this not bigger than Bengazi? Oh wait, I forgot. It was mostly brown people that got killed.. so why would the rethugs care…

          • @MrsRazor66

            I’m starting to get really pissed at the media lately. Falling for trumps distractions. The only one that has been consistent is Maddow. But as for watching anything else on cable news, I can’t stand it anymore.

        • Oblios_Cap

          How economical!

          • NastyBossetti

            It’s ok because the president is going to save us $70k by 2020, by not releasing White House visitor logs. So it all evens out in the end.

        • arglebargle

          I read somewhere earlier that that amount would have funded 5 years of meals on wheels. Can’t find the article at the moment though.

      • Nick Scroggs

        The bigger dick foreign policy theory at work.

      • memzilla Ω
      • arglebargle

        That’s a mighty big squirrel.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    Perhaps 7-11 can have a contest where one lucky gal gets to open her own ladies healthcare franchise.

  • Oblios_Cap

    *sigh* And it’s only early afternoon. What other fuckery will these assholes come up with today?

  • MynameisBlarney

    This gif’s for you, turmp.

    https://i.giphy.com/zpIknOtagCpby.gif

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Serious question: Are PP abortion services and PP everything-else services the same organization? And if not, why not? Wouldn’t spinning off abortion services solve this problem (stop laughing and answer, I said it was a serious question). Please nonprofitsplain.

    • snark-lurker

      You can not get an abortion in a PP office. That is not a thing they do.

    • Jenny

      I know the South Texas center for pp that does abortions is separate from the main planned parenthood. At least when it comes to charitable donations. I can and do give directly to the South Texas branch.

    • @MrsRazor66

      My husband and I have said this before. Why don’t they branch off their abortion services that way the federal funding goes to PP, but their abortion services will be performed by their sister company, something like, Alternative Women Services or soemthing of the sort. That way they can prove no funding provides abortions and can keep the 2 separate. We always wondered why PP wouldn’t do this and it would end a lot of the hate and controversy against PP.

  • nightmoth

    Instead of back to the future this is forward to the past. Time to dust off those old copies of “Our Bodies: Our Selves,” girls, and buy cases of speculums. We’ve done it before. We can do it again.

    • BloviateMe

      It would be irresponsible not to speculum.

      • snark-lurker

        oh shit hear we go agin

      • ahughes798

        It WOULD stirrup a lot of trouble, though.

    • myintx

      Whose body is ripped to shreds in a abortion?

      • nightmoth

        Nobody’s, you fucking idiot. A rapidly dividing embryo doubling its cells as fast as it can is aspirated before it becomes ensouled, which occurs, according to centuries of Biblical doctrine, at birth. Also, too, if you think abortion is a “sin” don’t have one, but leave every other woman’s reproductive decisions alone.

        • myintx

          “If you think slavery is a “sin” don’t own one” – slave owner from when slavery was legal.

          • nightmoth

            false analogy

          • myintx

            Nope… abortion denies a set of human beings basic rights just as slavery did….

          • nightmoth

            False analogy.

      • nightmoth

        Nobody’s, you fucking idiot. A rapidly dividing embryo, which is doubling its’ cell numbers as fast as it can, just like every other embryo, is aspirated before it is ensouled. According to centuries of religious belief, that occurs at birth with the first breath. If you think abortion is a “sin” then don’t have one, but mind your own business and leave other women’s reproductive decisions alone.

        • myintx

          There could be depending on when the miscarriage happened. Google it.

          After an abortion sometimes the abortionist has to reassemble the unborn child to make sure they got all the parts.

          • nightmoth

            I don’t have to google it. I’ve worked as a volunteer escort at an abortion clinic. 92% of abortions are first trimester. Bloody uterine lining, no body parts. Anyway, nice talking to you, but it’s a beautiful day outside and I have garden work to do before getting ready to meet friends for some live music tonight. Good-by.

          • myintx

            Do they let escorts in to witness the killing?

            http://www.liveaction.org/news/stunning-photo-of-noah-miscarried-at-12-weeks-will-amaze-you/

            Are you OK with banning abortion after 12 weeks?

      • nightmoth

        Nobody’s, you obtuse idiot. A dividing embryo rapidly doubling its cell numbers, like every other embryo, is aspirated before it becomes ensouled. According to centuries of religious doctrine, that occurs at birth, with the first breath of life. If you think abortion is a “sin”, then don’t have one, but mind your own business, and leave every other woman’s reproductive decisions alone. You have a lot of self-righteous pride there, to think that you are omniscient and know the circumstances of every single woman or girl who gets pregnant. You don’t, so quit judging.

        • myintx

          Telling someone they cannot kill a newborn isn’t “judging”. Telling someone they cannot kill an unborn child isn’t judging either – it is protecting.

  • Michael R
    • WotsAllThisThen

      Sessions would put granny in prison for that medicine she keeps pushing. She probably can’t prove her citizenship status either.

      • aureolaborealis

        She did teach the vulnerable youths to smoke crawdads: “First, I need you to get me a little pot.”

    • Vincent Ricola

      Granny libelz!

    • Ricky Gay

      Granny likely knew how to DIY them.

    • arglebargle

      As Jed Clampett once said, “If brains was lard he wouldn’t grease too big a pan.”

    • ahughes798

      Extreme Granny Clampett Liblez!!!1!11!111!

      • nightmoth

        Truly! Granny is my role model for aging!

        • ahughes798

          Same here. She’s my role model for when I get even older,

  • Marceline

    But remember Hillary would be just as bad as Trump.

  • WotsAllThisThen

    But what about the alternative providers like school nurses, fire stations, and dentists? I know a dentist who will give you a full gyno exam when you’re under anesthetic. You don’t even have to ask, it’s included free with the root canal!

    • BloviateMe

      Buy one canal service, get the other canal serviced for free, act now!

      • ahughes798

        Dr. Dentist, there’s a gap between my teeth that needs a filling.

  • Vincent Ricola

    I wonder what the loud anti-choice nutters will move on to after they’ve outlawed every lady medical procedure in the name of the lord?

    Oh wait, no one will move on to anything because untreated STDs and undetected breast/cervical cancer will wipe out the American population within 10 years.

    The GOP would like to see us all dead. Fuck them.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      After the great STD plague, the only survivors will be MGTOWs.

      • Vincent Ricola

        But if mom isn’t around to make those hot pockets, they’ll starve.

        • jesterpunk

          Where would they live if their parents are dead?

    • myintx

      You do know that there are other clinics that provide healthcare that don’t kill unborn children, right?

      • @MrsRazor66

        I’m tired of explaining facts to you, so I will just say, fuck you. Go do something productive like suck a dick instead of shoving your religion in my vagina. Bish you cray

        • myintx

          When did I mention religion? hmm? And I don’t care about your vagina. I care about vulnerable human beings. You mentioned in another post that you are pregnant. Do you talk to your fetus and say “if you don’t behave I’m gonna have you ripped outta there limb from limb”. Do you look at a newborn and go “A few weeks ago I would have supported someone ripping you to shreds cootchy cootchy coo”

    • ahughes798

      They’d have to learn how to suck their own dicks, then.

  • Nick Scroggs

    I have an idea, a sick and unethical idea, but an idea nonetheless: to found a pornography studio that captures scenes of women getting health care, of actual people involved, and then selling the videos to fund the health services? It would make money (Rule 34), which is what Republicans want more than anything.

    • Shibusa

      Snatch Adams Studios

      • Nick Scroggs

        Dammit, it’s already done? Sonuva-

  • anwisok
  • MynameisBlarney
    • Oblios_Cap

      That would make for an interesting yiff pile.

      • MynameisBlarney

        I had to google that, lol.

        • Oblios_Cap

          Furries used to be a big topic on this site – like dick jokes.

    • NastyBossetti

      Thank god we were forced to explain to my in-laws over Christmas what furries are, so this kind of thing won’t happen to them.

      • MynameisBlarney

        oh, I bet THAT was an interesting conversation, lol

        • NastyBossetti

          My mother-in-law is… a bit of an innocent and very Catholic, so it was tricky to make her understand while also not totally offending her.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Some folks are offended way to easily.

      • Cliff Hendroval

        I guess they didn’t see the CSI episode about murder at a furry convention.

        • NastyBossetti

          Too busy watching Nancy Grace.

  • Michael R


    Well it missed the election , but it will be here on my birthday …

    Large asteroid to hurtle past Earth on April 19

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/large-asteroid-to-hurtle-past-earth-on-april-19/

    https://s2.postimg.org/s2zlyrqyx/giant_meteor.jpg

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Best bumper sticker of the 2016 election, IMO.

  • Daniel Hooper

    Not only am I pissed about the potential cuts to funding, I’m also upset with the poor quality of lies coming from those seeking to justify it. Hell, you could still tell the truth and get the same level of correlation as telling an outright lie.

    “Title X funds will not be used to fund abortions. Planned Parenthood providers will receive less funding…”

    See? At no point did I say PP provides abortions, but by seperating the mention of PP and abortions into separate sentences while keeping the parts about funding in common, your average reader is probably going to think, “PP provides abortions”. Yet if someone were to try and call me out on it, I can just point to the transcript to show I never actually said that.

    Seriously; if you’re going to fuck PP, at least do a better job obscuring it. It’s insulting enough that you’re doing it in the first place, and this just rubs salt in the wounds.

  • Nick Scroggs
  • NastyBossetti

    Our federal system was set up to allow states to address the unique needs of their own populations

    Oh, are there states without women? I was not aware of that.

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  • mailman27

    How do women’s reproductive biological needs differ from state to state? All human beings are genetically the same critters. All the cells involved put their pants on one leg at a time.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      When a guy living in Trump country walks into a clinic and says, “I need birth control for my wife and sister…”

      • Lambsendbeds

        No, I don’t need two prescriptions, just one…

    • jesterpunk

      In red states women are icky and have cooties so they dont count or something.

      • @MrsRazor66

        Unless they have money and married and Christian. Then Jeezus takes all cooties away…

        • @MrsRazor66

          Oh, and they have to be white. They must all be white.

          • ahughes798

            And virgins. Because there’s nothing that freaks out a Christian man more than his wife having had someone to compare him to.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Anna Elizabeth

      That was LOL funny! :D “Eric Trump eat Faces!”

      • MynameisBlarney

        INORITE!?!

        • Anna Elizabeth

          I don’t want to spoil the rest, Ya’ll need to click Blarney’s link!

      • jesterpunk

        Is it bad that I read that as “Eric Trump eat Feces” ?

        • Anna Elizabeth

          No, it isn’t bad. :)

          • MynameisBlarney

            “Eric Trump eat all feces everywhere!”

  • Anna Rompage

    Did I miss something? I thought the GOP wanted to do away with Medicaid entirely and instead give people a tax credit voucher for a bottle of ‘Dr Donnie Trump’s Magic Cure All, Rat Poison & Dessert Topping’

    • jesterpunk

      They changed the plan, now the poors can eat at Mar-a-Lago for free.

      • Anna Rompage

        They really are trying to kill the poors! Did you see the health dept inspection on their kitchen?

        • jesterpunk

          Thats why the poors can eat there for free, no one else wants to eat there after that health inspection.

        • Anna Rompage

          I hear it is so bad that Shinzo Abe still has the runs, and Xi Jinping discretely fed all of the food for him and his staff to his wife’s dog as Donnie was rambling about the big boom boom he was dropping…

      • laineypc

        He’s going to let them eat the most beautiful chocolate cake.

        • ahughes798

          You mean the ones Mar-A-Leggo My Eggo buys from Costco?

  • canes_pugnaces

    That’s OK, Little Lord Ivankagina, the pussy whisperer, is going to talk to him. That’s her job. We won’t see any results but that’s because she is so good at her whispering. To us he’ll just seem like that pussy grabbing pig he always was, but really, he’s been whispered to.

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    Why are states’ rights always more important than human rights?

    • jesterpunk

      States rights are only important when it can hurt people or discriminate. Its part of the Republican game to see who can screw over people the most.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      States, like corporations, are higher forms of life that must be respected as such.

    • Lord Jim

      Because states are MANY people and a human is just one person, ergo a state has more rights than A human. It’s just math.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        I was told there would be no math.

        Nor should there be.

        • puredog

          Math is even harder than I thought.

    • myintx

      You talk about human rights… unborn children are human beings too – they should have a basic right to life.

      • ahughes798

        No, they aren’t. They’re possible human beings, 10-20% of known(as in the women knew they were pragnet.)pregnancies spontaneously abort. About 20% of undiscovered pregnancies spontaneously abort. Being pregnant doesn’t guarantee birth.

        • myintx

          Science tells us an unborn child is a human being. They aren’t members of a canine or feline species, they are members of the same species as their parents – i.e. Homo Sapiens – i.e. human beings.

          Not every newborn makes it to his or her first birthday – that doesn’t make infanticide OK does it? Miscarriages don’t make intentionally killing an unborn child OK either.

          • ahughes798

            I really don’t care, honestly. No one can force anyone over the age of 18 to have an abortion. If the woman chooses to birth the child, fine. If she doesn’t, fine. It’s up to the woman.

          • myintx

            You really don’t care that unborn children are human beings?

            No one should be able to choose to kill their child – born or unborn.

          • ahughes798

            The Bible says, specifically, that a baby is not alive until it draws it’s first breath outside the mother. In the New Testament, Jesus doesn’t say a word about abortion. So there’s that, if one believes in god. Childbirth is dangerous to the mother, and women still die in childbirth, and so I believe that the decision to give birth, or not, is up to the person carrying the foetus.

          • myintx

            I don’t care what the Bible says….

            Taking an unwanted newborn to a fire station could be dangerous to a mother. Walking up the stairs in the middle of the night to get to a baby who sounds like he is choking could be dangerous to the mother. Are those good excuses for a mother to abandon a baby to die?

            A pregnant woman can go to her prenatal visits and if the pregnancy becomes a true threat to her health then the doctors can deliver the baby early. Saying someone can kill their unborn child at 8 weeks because there might be a problem at delivery would be like saying you can shoot a man walking down the street because he might turn around and rape you.

          • @MrsRazor66

            Science tells us that fetuses are cells replicating throughout pregnancy and isn’t complete until 38 weeks. So, until then the fetus isn’t a complete person. So get over it. Religion tells you a ball of replicating cells is a human being. Science actually says otherwise.

          • myintx

            Science tells us a human being isn’t done developing until adulthood. His or her life starts at fertilization, continues through milestones such as first heartbeat, other organs developing and functioning, viability, first breath, first words, first step, puberty and into adulthood.

            “[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”
            -Dr. Morris Krieger “The Human Reproductive System” p 88 Sterling Pub. Co

            “The development of a new human being begins when a male’s sperm pierces the cell membrane of a female’s ovum, or egg….The villi become the placenta, which will nourish the developing infant for the next eight and a half months.”
            -Scarr, S., Weinberg, R.A., and Levine A., Understanding Development, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc., 1986. page 86

            Abortion kills a human being.

          • dshwa

            Science does no such thing. The only thing science says about it is that viability outside the uterus occurs at approximately 22 weeks.

          • myintx

            The same being exists before and after viability, before and after birth and before and after puberty. If that being is a human being after those milestones, that being was a human being before those milestones. The life of a human being starts at fertilization.

            “gametes are human cells, but embryos are entire living human beings.”
            Dr. Joachim Huarte and Dr. Antoine Suarez

            “Zygote: This cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo). The expression fertilized ovum refers to a secondary oocyte that is impregnated by a sperm; when fertilization is complete, the oocyte becomes a zygote.” Keith L. Moore and T.V.N. Persaud, The Developing Human (Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1998).

            Abortion kills a human being.

          • nightmoth

            Menstruation kills a human being.

          • myintx

            An egg by itself isn’t a human being. A human zygote, blastocyst, embryo, fetus, baby, toddler, child, teenager, adult or elderly person IS a human being.

          • nightmoth

            By your standards an egg is half a human being.

          • myintx

            Still not a human being….

          • nightmoth

            It is when parthenogenesis happens. Almost unknown in humans, but there was a case of partial parthenogenesis confirmed in 1995.

          • dshwa

            Zygotes and blastocysts are lost in menstruation all the time. So menstruation frequently does result in what is in your point of view the death of a human being.

          • myintx

            your point? Yes, miscarriages happen and that is horrible. That doesn’t justify abortion though…just as the death of a newborn from natural causes doesn’t justify infanticide.

          • dshwa

            Those are the opinions of those individual scientists, not actual scientific consensus.

          • myintx

            In 1981 (April 23-24) a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee held hearings where they discussed when human life begins. Numerous internationally-known geneticists and biologists spoke.

            The official Senate report reached this conclusion:

            “Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being – a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings.”

          • dshwa

            That subcommittee report was disputed by the minority on the committee, including an excellent review of what the scientific consensus was which was absolutely not what the majority said it was. You should have read the whole thing.

          • nightmoth

            Science tells us that an unborn human is an unborn human. A hominid fetus is to a human as an acorn is to a oak.

          • myintx

            Saying that an acorn isn’t an oak tree only proves that the unborn aren’t fully grown adult human beings.

            An oak seedling or an oak sapling has yet to grow into a full grown oak tree but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t oaks. In the same way, human embryos, fetuses, infants, and adolescents have yet to grow into full grown human beings but that doesn’t mean they aren’t human beings.

          • nightmoth

            “embryos, fetuses, infants, and adolescents”
            Two of these things are not like the other ones.

          • myintx

            There are differences between embryos/fetuses/infants and adolescents… those differences shouldn’t be used to kill infants should they? That’s discrimination..

      • @MrsRazor66

        Like I’ve said 100 times now, a fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the womb. Which doesn’t begin until about 24 weeks. At 24 weeks the fetus has a 50% survival chance and goes up each week from there. Abortions Andre illegal after 20 weeks. Therefore abortions are not performed on unborn children. They’re performed on fetuses that can’t survive outside the womb.

        • myintx

          Definition of “fetus” from the McGraw Hill dictionary –

          fetus Obstetris
          1. The unborn child developing in the uterus–after the embryonic stage, circa age 7 to 8 wks to birth.

          At 7 weeks or 24 weeks “unborn child” is a valid term.

          Abortions aren’t illegal in all states after 20 weeks. If you are OK with them being illegal after 20 weeks (i.e. between 20 and 23 weeks) then you to have a fundamental disagreement with Roe V Wade.

          • dshwa

            That’s a dictionary, not scientific consensus.

            As for the 20-23 week line, you are missing some semantics in what we’re saying. Elective abortions should be illegal after viability, but medically necessary abortions should not be, nor should ones performed in the case of severe fetal malformation where once born the infant will not survive more than a few hours or days. (Urethral outflow obstruction, ancephalathy, etc.) The decision to perform an abortion in both those cases is no one else’s business but the mother’s, in consultation with her physician.

          • myintx

            So all the scientists in the world have to get together to come up with synonyms for scientific terms? lol Did they all get together and say “yes, we can call an infant a baby” – where is that documented? Are we not allowed to call an infant a baby until we get scientific consensus on that? “unborn child” is a valid synonym for “fetus”. Medical organizations like the CDC use the term and so do doctors.

            Oh, so I see you are a-ok with telling a woman what she can or cannot do with “her body” after viability…. hypocrite.

            At 20 weeks or 24 weeks we should be able to have laws to protect unborn children. They are human beings at both points and if we can tell a woman she cannot kill that tiny human being for any reason she wants at 24 weeks we should be able to tell her at 20 weeks or 2 weeks.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        NOPE. It’s called bodily autonomy, look it up.

        • myintx

          The right to do with your body what you want should end where the body of another human being begins.

          Not to mention the bodily autonomy argument totally disproves the “difficult decision” mantra that those for abortion like to throw around.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            You do not know how words work. Bodily autonomy by definition means that even if someone else will die, it’s still your decision. You are arguing that anyone who can carry a pregnancy does not deserve their human rights and I frankly find it disgusting. Crawl back under your rock.

          • myintx

            All human beings deserve human rights. Killing a child (born or unborn) is not a human right.

            No one can legally make a decision to kill a newborn or leave them to die. Even if that means a parent has to use their body against their will to bring their unwanted newborn to a fire station. They could be screaming about their “bodily autonomy” the whole way to the fire station — they still have to do whatever it takes to safely hand off an unwanted child to someone else. I’m Ok with that – are you? Same concept before birth – i.e. parents should ensure their unborn child’s safety as long as it takes for them to be handed off safely to someone else.

            Those who support killing unborn children should crawl under a rock. They should be ashamed of themselves for supporting the killing of innocent human beings.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            You literally just contradicted yourself. Either admit you don’t want anyone who can carry a pregnancy to be treated as a whole human being or shut up.

          • myintx

            I didn’t contradict myself… You didn’t answer the question in my last post for fear of contradicting yourself.

            Is telling a parent they have to ensure the safety of a newborn against their will (until the newborn can be safely handed off to someone else) not treating them as a “whole human”? NO.. neither is telling someone they have to ensure the safety of their unborn son or daughter.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            You did, actually. Nice deflection though. I won’t be strayed from my point, and you won’t admit you are A Idiot. I’m sorry but unborn son or daughter is extremely misleading. Also, you seem to imply you care for more than a collection of cells that can’t survive on their own than the person carrying it, which is weird since even in the best of circumstances, pregnancies can be deadly.

          • myintx

            Would you like to tell me how you think I contradicted myself?

            By 12 weeks an unborn child has all the limbs, fingers and toes he or she will be born with (including fingernails) and all major organs in place – not a collection of cells. A human being.

            I care for all innocent human beings. They should all have a right to life. The law telling a parent they have to ensure the safety of an unwanted newborn isnt saying that we care for newborns more than adults, it means a parent has a responsibility to ensure the safety of their offspring. That responsibility should start when that human being comes into existence – i.e. at fertilization.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Except a brain, which they won’t have for weeks, and can’t survive without. You’re arguing at the same time they are humans at conception even though you’re not arguing they’re any more than a collection of cells at that point. You have no logic and no ground to stand on, and you know it. Your ignorance and idiocy are tiring. Goodbye

          • dshwa

            Lungs either, which are kind of necessary as well.

          • myintx

            You’re the one with no ground to stand on. Science has shown that an unborn child is a human being. You support the killing of human beings based on their level of development and then want to deny the humanity of the beings you support killing.

            IF (hypothetically) there was a type of brain death in a born human being where a doctor would say to a family “your loved one has no brain functionality right now, but unless he somehow dies a natural death in the next 4 months he will have brain functionality” don’t you think there would be laws protecting those human beings from having the plug pulled by selfish relatives? I do….

          • dshwa

            “[The question of when human life begins] can neither be verified not proven false using today’s scientific knowledge. It is therefore the domain of metaphysics, it can be argued about by philosophers and theologians, but it lies beyond the reach of science.” – Dr. Lewis Thomas, Chancellor of the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center and former Dean of the Yale Medical school, in testimony to the Senate judiciary subcommittee on separation of powers in 1981. That should sound familiar to you, since you pointed out that the majority report on that hearing said his views represented a scientific consensus that human life begins at conception. There are several other similar views presented to that committee all starting at page 49 of the report. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015018597867;view=1up;seq=52;skin=mobile

          • dshwa

            “Selfish relatives.”
            Thanks for the tell, really, this is about your judgement on the motives of the mother and not about protecting life, which is just your justification for your judgement of the mother. And really, that’s about your egoic need to feel self righteous about how much better you are than them.

          • dshwa

            “That responsibility should start when that human being comes into existence – i.e. at fertilization.”

            That’s your opinion, and you’re welcome to it, but you don’t get to force it on the rest of us.

          • myintx

            There are many laws that reflect our opinions.. Should we not have animal abuse laws? Those laws reflect the opinions of a majority of people that think it is wrong to starve dogs and cats to death or abuse them. OH NO – those laws are forcing an opinion on someone who thinks it’s a-ok to tape a dogs mouth shut if he barks too much and keeps the person awake.

          • dshwa

            That parent is not required to risk their life to save an infant. No one is required to run into a burning building, or even try to rescue someone else, even a child, while escaping that building, for example. So your argument already falls flat in cases where the life of the mother is at risk from their pregnancy.

          • myintx

            Parents also aren’t supposed to kill their infants either… What they are required to do is provide them food and shelter. And the only place an unborn child can safely get that is in the womb. If a mother’s life is truly endangered from her pregnancy, doctors can deliver the baby so that no one has to die.

          • dshwa

            A doctor can’t “deliver” a 14 week fetus without killing it. Which would be an abortion.

  • canes_pugnaces

    There is a fairly simple solution to this. Do no business with red states. At all.

    • TootsStansbury

      Does that include kicking them out? I’m done with these destructive, hateful assholes.

      • myintx

        Abortion is what is destructive…. think about it

        • @MrsRazor66

          We have, and it’s not destructive. What’s destructive is raping women with your religious beliefs. Please remove your beliefs out of my vagina. Thanks.

          • myintx

            The arms and legs being ripped off a human being at 16 weeks is destructive. And this isn’t about religion or your vagina, it’s about protecting vulnerable human beings.

          • Shanzgood

            You have to invade other people’s vaginas to do that.

            Think about it. It’s pretty creepy.

          • myintx

            We don’t have to invade other peoples houses to tell them they cannot kill their newborn. No ones vagina has to be invaded if the law tells them not to kill their unborn son or daughter.

          • nightmoth

            If you think “the law” ever stopped women and girls in this country from having abortions, then think again. Better yet, read some history about those days of illegal abortions.

          • myintx

            The law doesn’t stop some people from killing their born children…. Does that mean we should get rid of murder laws?

            Most people do obey laws. And just because some might it doesn’t mean something as wrong as killing an innocent human being should be legal.

          • ahughes798

            Or, listen to the Nirvana song “Pennyroyal Tea.” It’s about that.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
  • gene108

    Don’t you know that if you aren’t rich, you are meant – by God Almighty – to have as many kids as the man you are married to can put in you…

    I mean, if you’re rich, you can afford birth control, the way God intended.

    The rest of the women are just there to birth babies.

    *******************************************

    And somewhere in Third World countries, which have spent decades working on family planning, and are seeing signs of success in bringing their birthrates down, someone must be thinking “WTF!?!? America”.

  • Swampay

    I’m thinkin’ that Spicey uses the term “states rights” in a way that Jefferson Davis would approve.

  • Crystalclear12

    Can’t comment, just had a rage stroke.

    • Parakeetist

      Here, I’ll help: rrrrrrraherrrrrrrrr.

  • Bitter Scribe

    They want to force women to bear children by denying them abortions. Forcing them to bear children by denying them birth control is only the next logical step.

    • myintx

      You call it “forcing”, I call it protecting vulnerable human beings. It’s a shame that any parent would ever feel “forced” to give a damn about their child – born or unborn.

      • @MrsRazor66

        A child is not a child until they fetus can survive outside the womb.

        • myintx

          The term “unborn child” is a valid synonym for fetus.

          Do the accurate phrases “abortion kills an unborn child” or “abortion kills a human being” bother you in any way? If so, maybe you want to rethink your stance on abortion.

      • Atheist

        Consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to get pregnant. And women can feel however they want about their pregnancies. Let me guess you’re another white supremacist who hides behind “what about the baybeeez” to encourage whites outpopulating other groups? I’m sure the Duggars would be proud you’re here tooting their horn.

        • myintx

          If you consent to driving a car you are consenting to the possibility of getting in an accident. If a woman consents to sex she is consenting to the possibility of getting pregnant. If you cause an accident you cannot say “oops… I didn’t mean for that to happen!” and then kill the other driver, and hide his body and the car so no one finds out.

          from what I’ve heard, minorities have a higher rate of abortion. So when killing an unborn child is outlawed it may be minorities that end up having more babies.

      • Panika MCD

        again: you do not give a shit about protecting vulnerable human beings. there are lots of them already born in this state, but you’re more obsessed with controlling other people than protecting them. and there’s that 100 kids dying in TX’s CPS system every year showing that many parents do not, in fact, give a damn about their born children–but neither do you!

        • myintx

          We already have laws telling parents they cannot abuse or kill their born children. Yes it does happen and I would be fine with the penalties being harsher or the laws enforced better so that the number of deaths of children were reduced.

          Telling someone they cannot kill a newborn isn’t controlling them. Neither is telling someone they cannot kill an unborn child. It is about protecting.

          Do you think people that devote their free time to volunteering at animal shelters dont care about born children and want them to be hurt or killed?

          • Panika MCD

            it’s not a matter of laws or penalties. it’s a matter of CPS not having enough funding which we will never get if we don’t institute an income tax.

            it’s not about protecting. it’s about controlling. until that kid can survive without medical intervention it is controlling. we don’t force people to care for their born children. we have laws allowing them to be dropped off at hospitals, police stations and fire departments without penalty if they don’t want to care for them. unfortunately, you can’t do that for a cluster of cells. it just doesn’t survive.

            I think people who volunteer at animal shelters are pro-spay & neuter for a reason. it’s people like you that make it very difficult for me to be pro-choice. when people like you put duct tape over your children’s mouths and use them as political props I have a hard time convincing myself that you should be able to choose to have children at all–you should be spayed and neutered, the lot of you.

          • myintx

            Telling someone they cannot kick a puppy, kill a newborn or kill an unborn child isn’t about controlling, it’s about protecting.

            Laws tell people they have to keep their dogs, cats or newborns safe as long as it takes for them to be handed off safely to someone else. That could take a while in some cases. What if there were a hurricane that trapped a parent in their house and they had enough food and water to feed their kid. If they decided they didnt want their baby could they starve him or her to death? If they were rescued a week later all fat and happy and their baby was starved to death don’t you think the parent would be charged with a crime? or could they scream “I didn’t wannnnnaaaa use ‘my body’ to care for my newborn so I let him die” ?

          • Panika MCD

            we’re talking about clusters of cells, not newborns. you know to be a newborn, one has to be newly born. we’re talking about ones that was not born. and if you spent as much time reading up on what the actual law is, you may know the answer to all of your questions. but you don’t because, again, for the fucking win: YOU DON’T CARE.

            the one thing you can do to reduce the number of abortions in this country is for you to never have sex again–something I don’t think will be very difficult for you. no run the fuck along.

          • myintx

            Do you think that when an unborn child has all the limbs, fingers and toes he or she will be born with and all major organs in place (i.e. at 12 weeks) that he or she is a “cluster of cells”? Perhaps something “magical” happens on a trip down the birth canal to turn a “cluster of cells” into a human being in your mind?

          • nightmoth

            You forgot the gills.

          • myintx

            No woman has ever given birth to a fish…. When two human beings have sex and the female gets pregnant, she isn’t pregnant with a member of a fish species. She is pregnant with a member of the same species as she and her partner are – i.e. a Homo Sapien – i.e. a human being. Vulnerable human beings should be protected, not killed.

          • nightmoth

            I was referring to the point in hominid fetal development at which the embryo has gill slits. Remember ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny? Although Haeckel’s 19th century research regarding parallels between ontogeny and phylogeny fell into disrepute, it is still crucial to an understanding of gene regulation.

          • myintx

            So you agree that unborn children are human beings then, right?

          • nightmoth

            An non-developed fetus is a POTENTIAL human being only. A acorn is a POTENTIAL oak. A chicken egg is a POTENTIAL chicken. When a non-developed fetus matures into an infant, and that infant does not have a brain and therefore no human consciousness, is it a human being? What makes a human being a human being?

          • myintx

            An acorn is a potential seedling. An oak seedling is a potential oak sapling. An oak sapling is a potential oak tree. An unborn child is a potential newborn and a newborn is a potential toddler. An acorn, an oak sapling and an oak tree are all members of an oak species. An unborn child, a toddler and an adult are all members of the species Homo Sapiens — i.e. human beings.

            “[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”
            -Dr. Morris Krieger “The Human Reproductive System” p 88 (1969) Sterling Pub. Co

            “The development of a new human being begins when a male’s sperm pierces the cell membrane of a female’s ovum, or egg….The villi become the placenta, which will nourish the developing infant for the next eight and a half months.”
            -Scarr, S., Weinberg, R.A., and Levine A., Understanding Development, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc., 1986. page 86

          • nightmoth

            “Unborn children” is a contradiction in terms. You use it as a senseless inflammatory construct.

          • myintx

            “Unborn child” is a valid term.

            Reputable dictionaries use the term:
            Merriam Webster – part of medical definition of “unborn” – “unborn children”
            Oxford – (Of a baby) not yet born:
            ‘the sound of an unborn baby’s heartbeat’
            ‘smoking can be harmful to your unborn child’

            So do Medical Dictionaries:
            fetus Obstetris
            1. The unborn child developing in the uterus–after the embryonic stage, circa age 7 to 8 wks to birth.
            From the McGraw-Hill Concise Dictionary of Modern Medicine

            And medical organizations like the CDC:
            “A pregnant woman might be especially concerned about the potential effects of carbon monoxide exposure on her unborn child. “

            And encyclopedias – From the Encyclopedia Britannica – (5) formation of a placenta and maintenance of the unborn child during the entire period of gestation

            Saying “abortion kills an unborn child” is more accurate than saying “abortion kills an embryo” as abortion could also kill a fetus….. Are you embarrassed to admit you support the killing of unborn children?

          • nightmoth

            Sorry–doesn’t work as a political term. That’s how you are using it, when you’re not busily conflating your terminologies.

          • myintx

            Saying “abortion kills an unborn child” isnt political, it’s a fact.

            But the term “unborn child” is also used in the law – In “Alexa’s Law,” signed into law on May 9, 2007, as part of HB 2062, effective July 1, 2007, an “unborn child,” meaning “a living individual organism of the species homo sapiens, in utero, at any stage of gestation from fertilization to birth,” is defined as a “person” and a “human being”….

            Saying “abortion kills an unborn child” and “abortion kills a human being” are factually correct…

          • ahughes798

            OT, but all foetuses are female for the first 6 weeks(?). That means even macho men like Trump, Uday, and Qusay were girls at one time.

          • Panika MCD

            I think it’s not going to survive on its own outside the womb and I also think that it’s not newly born because it hasn’t been born. again: totally not going to sleep with you. you are wasting your time, CUP CAKE!

          • myintx

            So you agree an unborn child at 12 weeks is not a “cluster of cells” then, right?

          • Panika MCD

            seriously, I’m not going to fuck you. your pillow talk sucks. you need to move on. maybe you can buy a blow up doll because those things you can control the fuck out of and into!

          • myintx

            And that would be the classic pro-about DEFLECTION.

          • Panika MCD

            I said, “no.” do you need it spelled out? it’s a pretty simple word, but I know you are an exceedingly stupid person. you can’t control people. you can’t make them have sex with you if they don’t want to and you can’t make them have your baby. you just can’t. you will have to come to terms with that.

          • myintx

            more DEFLECTION.

            Telling someone they cannot kill their child – born or unborn – isn’t about controlling them, it’s about protection.

          • Panika MCD

            aw, is poor widdle Princess Control Freak grrr mad that it can’t control the conversation and that the other person is not interested in doing anything with the shriveled little pencil shaving between its legs? does someone’s mommy need to come change its diaper because the mean lady on the internet would not recognize its authority as a FORMER FETUS who remains about as neurologically developed as a fetus? I don’t care about your fee fees, special snowflake because you don’t care about anyone else! GO AWAY!

          • myintx

            LOL calling me a snowflake. That more suit someone who thinks of “me, me, me, me, OH and me!” and not a tiny, vulnerable human being they might be carrying in their womb.

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      • Shanzgood

        To do this “protecting vulnerable human beings” thing you have to force your way into strangers’ vaginas. That’s one violently rapey perversion you’ve got going on there, hon. You should seek help.

        • myintx

          To do this “protecting of newborns” no one forces their way into peoples houses.. States just have laws saying DON’T KILL YOUR CHILD. To do this “Protecting of unborn children” we just need laws saying DON’T KILL YOUR UNBORN SON OR DAUGHTER.

      • Bitter Scribe

        It’s a shame that any woman would ever feel forced to give a damn about the opinions of strangers on whether or not she should give birth.

        • myintx

          it’s a shame you don’t recognize that there are (at least) two human beings involved in a pregnancy (the mother, the unborn child(ren) and the father if he’s around). All innocent human beings should have a right to life.

          • Bitter Scribe

            It’s a shame that you think you get to decide what is and isn’t a human being, and force women to go through childbirth based on your opinion.

          • myintx

            I don’t get to decide. It’s settled science that an unborn child is a human being.

          • Bitter Scribe

            It’s religious/political doctrine that ignorant people try to dress up as “science.”

          • myintx

            Nope.. If a human embryo isn’t a human being, tell us what genus and species he or she is, and then tell us at what point a completely different genus and species while in utero turns into a Homo sapiens. Once you’re done with that, tell us how the unborn child breaks the laws of biology to go from one species to another (the human species) when no other species on earth can do so.

          • Bitter Scribe

            Nope. An embryo is an embryo. If it’s a “human being,” then a fertilized hen’s egg is a chicken.

  • Ducksworthy

    Silly liberals. Contraception is murder too. In fact, women’s healthcare is murder.

    • unclejeems

      Every sperm is sacred.

  • Isabella Martin

    No adequate
    words-what a bunch of idiots running America.

  • laineypc

    “Our federal system was set up to allow states to address the unique needs of their own populations when possible especially when it comes to programs as important and sensitive as family planning.”

    Wow I had no idea that women’s reproductive systems worked differently by state.

    • Ducksworthy

      I had noticed that but didn’t want to say anything.

    • Shanzgood

      Yeah, we don’t fuck a lot in Kansas so we don’t need these things. Much better to earmark all the federal dollars for corn farmer subsidies to overproduce corn so we can make even more HFCS to add to our food so we get more obesity and diabetes that can’t be treated by the unexpanded KanCare program.

      Fuck, I wish that meteor would hurry up.

    • Prolecat

      Yep. My hoo ha changed enormously when I moved across the country. Amazing what geography will do to ladyparts.

      • laineypc

        Well mine always gets tighter in the humid weather.

  • mancityRed6

    It’s not going to increase medicare funding if they cut medicare funding.
    Yeah, JFC, these assholes again.

    • zerosumgame0005

      OMFG!!!11!! I just figured out why Dumbald eats so much KFC! Look at where the J and the K are on a keyboard! he thinks it’s a church!

  • Little Doll
    • Shanzgood

      Where’d that come from?! I know someone who looks like that and SO needs this gif!!!

    • TootsStansbury

      I love this.

      • Little Doll

        It’s the MOAMF –the Mother of all Middle Fingers. ;)

  • Little Doll

    I wonder if women could simply say men can all go fuck themselves until this shit is fixed.

    • Prolecat

      Yep. Lysistrata until PP gets full, unrestricted funding.

  • Scooby

    I just smear em by the pap…they let you so that when you are a star.

  • Mavenmaven

    For the GOP it is simple, the earlier women die, the faster they can get a new wife.

  • myintx

    From Abby Johnson – “There are fewer than 700 Planned Parenthood facilities that provide extremely limited gynecological care for women. There are almost 10,000
    community health centers that provide comprehensive health care for men, women
    and children.

    Everywhere Planned Parenthood has a facility, there is at least one
    community health center that will see low income women at low or no cost. No
    woman needs Planned Parenthood. There is ALWAYS an alternative.”

    • ahughes798

      But what’s wrong with having both?

      • myintx

        One kills unborn children….

        • ahughes798

          Only 3% of Planned Parenthood’s services are abortions. Which makes abortion a rare service they supply. If you don’t like abortions, don’t have one. It really isn’t anyone’s business what a woman decides. They aren’t allowed to use ANY federal funding for these abortions. I’m sure you’d be happy to pay more taxes to help support all these unwanted children, or adopt three or four of them yourself?

          • myintx

            The 3% stat is misleading… for every abortion they do a pregnancy test and blood work and possibly an STD test. That means a woman who comes in for an abortion is already at say about 25-30% of the “services” were abortion. PP makes much more than 3% of their revenue from killing unborn children.

            http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/05/07/_3_percent_of_planned_parenthood_s_services_are_abortion_but_what_about.html

            “If you don’t like slavery don’t own a slave” – slave owner from when slavery was legal.

            Should we let infanticide be legal so we don’t have to support children in foster care?

          • @MrsRazor66

            If the fetus is unable to survive outside the womb, it is NOT an infant or child. Therefore it would not a be infanticide. Most elective abortions happen before 12 weeks. At that time, the fetus is only an inch and half long. You think that inch and half long thing can survive on its own, has a personhood there for should have rights over the person carrying it that has to support that fetus? Not only that, but your religious beliefs should NEVER govern what someone else does with their body. So, get your religion out of my vagina, thank you very much.

          • @MrsRazor66

            Btw, I have 2 kids and 22 weeks pregnant with our 3rd baby. Never had an abortion, and don’t think I would, but I will never say never as I don’t know what situations I may face in my future.

          • myintx

            Congratulations on your children… Interesting that you said “3rd baby” instead of “3rd fetus”….

          • myintx

            Did I mention religion AT ALL? No… And as I am sure you know, abortion isn’t about a woman doing something to her body, it’s about her ripping to shreds the body of another human being – one that she should be protecting, not killing.

            By 12 weeks an unborn child has all the limbs, fingers and toes he or she will be born with (including fingerprints) as well as all major organs in place. I don’t want innocent human beings discriminated against based on their size.

            Telling a parent they have to ensure the safety of a newborn isnt giving the newborn more rights… If a woman with a newborn wakes up one day and says “I don’t want to take care of my baby for one more millisecond” the law still tells her she has to – as long as it takes for the baby to be handed over safely to someone else. Which could take minutes, hours or longer (e.g. if there was a natural disaster or the police were busy). During that time the newborn doesn’t have more rights than the woman. They both have a right to life. But ones right to happiness doesnt mean the other can be killed. A pregnancy should work the same way – the parents have to ensure the unborn child’s safety – as long as it takes for him or her to be safely handed off to someone else (i.e. at birth).

            All innocent human beings should have a right to life.

          • Panika MCD

            you seem to be unaware that most abortions are medical abortions which is essentially an induced miscarriage. no ripping to shreds. as far as surgical abortions go, D&C is going the way of the dodo because it has the potential to leave behind a body part making the woman become septic. D&X is the preferred surgical abortion procedure which removes the fetus in tact.

            no ripping and shredding necessary. but don’t let me stop you from having violent fantasies JUST LIKE JESUS! (and it’s really not that difficult to divine your faith from the rhetoric you copied from someone else.)

          • myintx

            So you’re OK with killing an unborn child as long as the body comes out intact? Sometimes the unborn child does come out in pieces and the abortionist (or his unlucky assistant) has to reassemble the products of conception to make sure they got all the “parts” out.

            What “rhetoric” – fetal development information can be found on the Mayo clinic web-site… Or do you not believe that an unborn child has all of the limbs, fingers and toes he or she will be born with by 12 weeks? Did you fall for the “clump of cells” rhetoric?

            http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/prenatal-care/art-20045302?pg=2

          • Panika MCD

            I’m okay with people making the best choices in consultation with medical professionals, their family members and any spiritual advisers they choose to involve for their own families. something tells me that you’re such a dolt that that will still go right over your head.

          • myintx

            Medical professionals like Gosnell? Yea not all medical professionals make good decisions – especially when they decide to kill an unborn child just because that tiny human being is unwanted. Well,they’re probably deciding to kill to line their pocketbooks, they dont really care what reason the woman has.

          • Panika MCD

            should we go into how many children are killed by firearms in this state every year? or shall we talk more about how Jesus seems to hate you and, JEE WHIZ, you’re trying to do everything you can to make it up to him, but it seems he hates you even more now for being a control freak who puts duct tape over their kid’s mouth? YOU DO NOT CARE. you were not there and you do not support the women who were told when they were at 10 weeks gestation that if carried to term, the born baby would be medically dependent and they thought, “WELL, thank goodness TX is a PRO-LIFE STATE!” just to watch their kids die. you don’t care. life started 3.8 billion years ago and has shown no sign of going away, so maybe concern yourself with reducing suffering–starting with you leaving this little Mommy Blog. got that PRINCESS?!

          • myintx

            Yes, children are killed by firearms… some are drowned by their evil parents… it is ILLEGAL to kill children. It should be illegal to kill unborn children. I don’t want to ban scapulas, forceps, bathtubs, knives, bats or guns. I want to ban killing vulnerable human beings.

            If a parent thinks it will reduce their suffering if they kill their unwanted toddler is that OK with you? What if the parent is worried they will “suffer” if their unwanted toddler goes into the system. They might “suffer” for 17 years thinking the kid is going to come back and yell at them….. Someone can GET HELP if they are suffering because of a child (born or unborn).. they shouldn’t be able to kill a child – born or unborn – to make their life better.

          • Panika MCD

            I’m certainly not going to trust pro-life OBGYN Dr. Love who told my friend that her pregnancy was going fine when, in fact, the fetus had died and she was going septic. now she can’t have children. because: YOU GUYS DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT CONTROLLING PEOPLE. the fetus was dead. all he did was prevent her from trying again to have a wanted child. but I’m sure you guys will trot him out at the next hearing anyway. control freak. don’t forget to tell us where to pee because: YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT CONTROL.

          • myintx

            Telling someone they cannot kill their child – born or unborn – isn’t about controlling anyone, it’s about protecting…..

            What if a woman gets in an accident on the way to delivering her unwanted baby to a fire station…. should the law saying a parent has to safely hand over an unwanted child be changed because of the small possibility of something happening to the parent during that time period?

          • Panika MCD

            you have made your point clear: you’re a control freak right down to directing me to call you Princess Protection Freak instead. but since you did not ask nicely, I’m not going to.

            and I’m not going to sleep with you either. you’re wasting your time. you don’t care about anything but control. I get it. you can stop explaining to me how much you only care about controlling other people. your point has been made. no one wants to have your kid because you’re such an insufferable control freak.

            and everyone on this mommy blog can play “BUT IT’S A BABY!!!!” better than you can, which, yes, we’ve noticed makes you sad because, really, what good is trying to control other people when you can’t declare yourself the winner all the time?

            you may now go die in a fire of medical records.

          • myintx

            How is telling someone they must ensure the safety of a newborn (even if they have so spend time against their will to ensure the safety of the newborn) not controlling them but telling a woman she has to ensure the safety of an unborn child “controlling” her? it’s the same thing — someone may have to spend time against their will ensuring the safety of a vulnerable human being….

          • Panika MCD

            I AM NOT GOING TO FUCK YOU, PRINCESS CONTROL FREAK. NO MEANS NO.

          • myintx

            Where did I ask you to do that?

          • Panika MCD

            NO MEANS NO.

          • myintx

            Where did I ask you to do that?

          • Panika MCD

            I don’t know how many times I can tell you that your advances are unwanted, Princess Control Freak. they’re just not wanted. you can’t control my body. it’s mine. find a new target.

          • myintx

            Your body is yours…an unborn child’s body is his or hers…that body should be protected – not killed.

          • Panika MCD

            GO AWAY MEANS GO AWAY. I will not fuck you. I don’t know if there is a way to make this clearer. leave. no one else here likes you either. there is no one here who will fuck you not matter how great you think your fetuses will be! (quite frankly, I think any uterus you impregnate will rebel and spit the fetus out, but that’s just because it probably doesn’t want to be controlled by you any more than anyone else.)

          • myintx

            So now you are discriminating… you don’t like me so you want me to go away.. you are so TOLERANT. NOT!

          • Panika MCD

            I’m not tolerant of you, no. and not letting you control me is not discrimination. sorry, you still suck at the English language. not having sex with you. no one else here is. go away. you need to learn to take care of your own needs.

          • myintx

            Telling someone they have to ensure the safety of their unwanted newborn as long as it takes for them to be handed over SAFELY to someone else isn’t “controlling” them is it?

            If your answer is yes then “you” must be for infanticide.. If your answer is “no” then you are contradicting yourself with your “control” b s.

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            I’m not with anyone right now Panika….

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          • myintx

            I’m not a man, I’m a woman. Many women are pro-life.

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          • Shanzgood

            Dude, she will do this histrionic “unborn child” lamentation for DAYS.

          • myintx

            Is it “histrionic” when the Encyclopedia Britannica uses the term “unborn child” — e.g. “(5) formation of a placenta and maintenance of the unborn child during the entire period of gestation”

          • Panika MCD

            well, now we’re calling fetuses “newborns” apparently.

          • Shanzgood

            I’m an undead corpse, too.

          • Panika MCD

            and I’m Jesus!

          • Tokays_don’t_blink

            Y’know, a doctor who was all about $$$ would try to talk a patient into keeping a pregnancy. Pre-natal, delivery, well-baby visits, vaccinations…that stuff isn’t free.

          • myintx

            Not if they are an abortionist at PP…..

          • Tokays_don’t_blink

            I have a leprechaun.

          • Panika MCD

            you say “blood work and possibly an STD test” like that’s a bad thing. you don’t want the woman to end of in the ER for an incorrect dosage or spreading STDs, do you? you probably do because you somehow think it’s “the LAWD’s will” and are, as previously mentioned a terrible excuse for a human being.

          • myintx

            You’re missing the point… but whatever…

            Women can have blood work and STD tests…. what they shouldn’t be able to do is kill their unborn son or daughter.

          • Panika MCD

            so when you have a miscarriage, that should be illegal too even though it was your body and not your mind killing your unborn son or daughter? because that happens in 30-40% of pregnancies. seems like you’re in over your head. amazingly, I managed to not have an abortion when I got my urine tested for a UTI because it doesn’t work that way, Princess Control Freak.

          • myintx

            Yes miscarriages happen. So do natural deaths in born children. A natural death in a newborn doesn’t justify infanticide. Miscarriages don’t justify intentionally killing an unborn child either.

          • Panika MCD

            it’s not natural when a kid gets beaten to death or denied medical care ASSHOLE!

          • myintx

            Never said it was… No child – born or unborn – should be killed or denied medical care.

          • Panika MCD

            yes, you most certainly did say that. but that’s because you didn’t pay attention when your teacher was talking about antecedents in 4th grade–probably too busy forcing the class hamster to give you a kiss or something equally controlling in nature. similarly, you have not paid any attention in Bible studies. better get on it! Jesus is gonna be back tomorrow and he’s gonna be pissed with you treating others in a manner in which you do not wish to be treated!

          • myintx

            Nope… never said it was Ok to kill a child — born or unborn…. Looks like you are grasping at straws to try to justify killing unborn children.

          • Panika MCD

            you’re trying to control the conversation like everything else and you’re very bad at it. I found a dangling modifier in your screed. it’s not my fault you put it in there. and you don’t get to erase the education that allows me to exploit it. you did say that–maybe you didn’t mean to, but it does beg the question that if you don’t have control over the English language, maybe you should get that down before deciding to try to control anything else. hope you at least learned how to control your bowels at some point, but it’s not likely!

          • myintx

            What is your point? That people who make mistakes when typing a post shouldn’t be able to have opinions on issues or vote? But yet it’s a-ok show your immaturity by cursing at someone or call them names in a post… yea, right…

          • Shanzgood

            I think she’s being very nice to someone who professes that it should be legal to force people to remain pregnant and give birth against their will.

          • myintx

            It’s legal to tell someone they have to remain a parent against their will — at least as long as it takes for the child to be handed over safely to someone else. .OH NO – a woman might be “forced” to do something against her will… you OK with that? I am… I’m ok with telling a parent they have to ensure the safety of their children – born or unborn – as long as it takes for them to be handed over safely to someone else. You may call it “forcing”, I call it protecting.

          • Shanzgood

            You call it protecting because your analogy is terrible and deliberately obscures the fact that people don’t lose their human rights the moment they become pregnant. You cannot legally protect an “unborn zygote” without also legally FORCING someone to gestate and give birth to it.

          • myintx

            Killing a child- born or unborn – isn’t a human right.

            The analogy isnt terrible because the same human being is involved before and after birth. He or she should be cared for by his or her parents until he or she can be safely handed off to someone else.

            Again, I am a-OK with the law telling (forcing) a parent to ensure the safety of a child – born or unborn.

            Say a woman was about to take her unwanted newborn to a fire station and a damn near her house broke. She is trapped in the house with her newborn. Rescuers will be busy trying to rescue the people most endangered. Her house is surrounded by water but she is safe. Rescuers my not get to her house for a few days or more. Can she kill her newborn because the law is FORCING her to use her body against her will to care for the unwanted baby?

          • Shanzgood

            You get off on the idea of gestational slavery, admit it.

          • myintx

            Is it “slavery” for the law to tell the woman in the scenario in my last post that she has to care for her unwanted newborn even if she doesn’t wanna?

          • Shanzgood

            Your scenario is bullshit and you know it. It has nothing to do with why abortion is legal.

          • myintx

            Abortion is legal because some people put their wants above the needs of vulnerable human beings that are dependent on them. And only vote or selfish people like themselves. Then lawyers LIE to the supreme court about being raped to get them to sympathize for their cause.

          • Shanzgood

            It’s legal because gestational slavery is bad public policy.

          • Panika MCD

            my point is that you should go away, Princess Control Freak.

          • Shanzgood

            You think she’ll make it into this weeks DSFB?

          • Panika MCD

            let’s hope not. then s/he’ll just come back…like the herpes s/he clearly suffers. not like the syphilis that never went away and has made swiss cheese of his/her brain.

          • Panika MCD

            it is not accusing me of discriminating against it because I will not have sex with it. it needs to control every aspect of everyone’s lives right down to telling us that control is spelled PROTECTION…you know, like the mafia does!

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            I don’t know…but Serai and Panika should have a meme-off or a gif-off. They’re both masters of the form!

          • myintx

            Looks to me like you cannot handle the truth about what you support – the killing of human beings. So you want me to go away so you won’t have to face that truth anymore.

          • Panika MCD

            looks to me like you can’t handle rejection. unfortunately, you’re going to have to get used to it because you cannot control other people!

          • myintx

            You’re welcome to walk away from this conversation… Perhaps you can go to the Mayo Clinic fetal development website and learn about the development of an unborn child.

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            So posting useless gifs is what you do when you have no more valid excuses to justify killing unborn children.

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          • Shanzgood

            Killing unborn children is justifiable in the name of preventing gestational slavery. How do YOU justify legally turning pregnant people into reproductive drudges?

          • myintx

            It’s not slavery to tell someone they have to ensure the safety of their unwanted newborn – as long as it takes to hand them off safely to someone else. It’s not slavery to tell someone they need to ensure the safety of their unborn child either.

          • Shanzgood

            More bad analogies. Pregnancy is not the same as parenting. Legally forcing someone to give birth is gestational slavery. Why do you like it so much?

          • myintx

            No one is forcing her to give birth…. A pregnant woman will give birth either way – either a dead baby or a live one.

            Are you saying parental slavery is OK but gestational slavery isn’t?

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            “miscarriages happen”: HOW COMPASSIONATE OF YOU!

          • myintx

            Way to miss the point yet again… or perhaps you got it but don’t want to admit it.

          • Panika MCD

            you’re pretending like miscarriage is no biggie, but abortion some how is sin and you have the right to judge and control! got it LOUD AND CLEAR!

          • myintx

            I never said miscarriage wasn’t a big deal…the point is that they do happen but it’s not the same as intentionally killing someone. Just as natural deaths in newborns happen but that doesnt justify infanticide… Natural deaths in newborns is horrible, so are miscarriages… again – neither of them justify abortion or infanticide. Got it?

          • Panika MCD

            I don’t know how many times I have to tell you but: I will not have sex with you. I just won’t. you don’t have the option to control me into it. go away, you sick sick, Jesus hatin’ control freak.

        • Panika MCD

          yeah, you only want the born children to die.

          • myintx

            Nope…I don’t support anyone killing a child – born or unborn.

          • Panika MCD

            then what the fuck are you doing about keeping the born ones alive? definitely not reading up on the issue as I see. you don’t care if they die at all. you care about control. that is all you care about. fun thing about your faith: you’re really fucking bad at it because instead of being humble, you’re judging people–as I understand it, that’s pretending like you’re GOD. also: quit praying in public because that’s considered hypocrisy of Biblical proportions. now that we’ve cleared up that you have a lot of work to do on yourself before you go telling everyone else what to do: FUCK OFF.

          • myintx

            What do you do? I’ve donated to places that work to find cures for childhood diseases and I’ve donated time and money to places that help families in need (not just pregnant women).

            It’s not controlling to tell someone they cannot kill a child, abuse their dog or cat or kill their unborn child – its PROTECTING.

          • Panika MCD

            right. keep telling yourself that, Princess Control Freak. and I’m not the one trying to force women to carry pregnancies to term: that would be you! got it? you don’t get to turn it around on me. and that rubber wrist ban ain’t saving anyone’s life. you’re going to have to actually do something hard: learn. you’re not protecting anyone. and you really don’t care. you’ve made that perfectly clear. so we are done here.

          • myintx

            I have learned…. Science tells us an unborn child is a human being. Common sense tells us that innocent human beings should have a right to life. Common sense also tells us that just because horrible things happen, like born children being killed, it doesn’t mean any other innocent human being should be killed.

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            Typical pro-abort tactic… throw insults when you lose the debate.

          • Panika MCD

            since you can’t seem to find “no” and “go away” and “you are a horrible person” as indications that you should go away because I don’t like talking to bitchy little control freaks who have no real purpose in life.

            you seem to think that outlawing abortion would end it. it doesn’t it just results in more death. but you don’t care about the abortions or the fetuses or life. you care about control. that’s why you’re also in favor of not even talking to boys about why rape is wrong or talking to girls about what sex actually is so they know what you want them to say no to. abortion never goes away, it just goes to the back alley and women die. but you don’t care about life or protecting anyone from that.

            those kids I mentioned that are dying because they’re being denied their therapies? they’re not dying of childhood lukemia–so your little wristbands don’t do dick for them. they’re dying because they can’t breathe on their own, they can’t eat on their own, they have 100s of seizures a day–but that’s not cute, so let’s just pretend like it doesn’t exist because it’s yet another thing that you’d rather control or ignore and since you can’t control it, you’re just going to ignore it.

            you want more punishment because when these kids grow up at-risk without the services they need, they end up in the criminal justice system and you think, “well, those aren’t the precious little babies I was saving!” no, they are someone’s fetus you forced them to carry to term.

            and then you want guns because OF COURSE YOU WANT GUNS. 140 kids die from accidental gun shots in Texas every year! but you don’t care to protect them from that–you want CONTROL. and part of that is you being able to shoot first and ask questions later.

            you happily vote for a man who just dropped a bomb that kills everything in a two mile radius. you think that didn’t kill any babies? bet it killed a lot of ’em. even some unborn ones! heavens, but you at least feel in control of it, so they didn’t really need protection.

            you voted for a man who thinks it’d be awfully neat to let coal companies dump their waste into streams that people drink out of. but they are born people, so what the fuck do you care as long as they aren’t having abortions! even if drinking the stuff gives them cancer and induces miscarriages! at least you have control, but that’s not protecting anyone.

            you vote for a man who is threatening to let people die because he can’t let more people die. that’s not protection, that’s being a control freak.

            you vote for a man because he says he’ll deny funding to Planned Parenthood because you want control over who people see for their medical care. THAT IS NOT PROTECTION.

            so fuck you and your sad little dried up uterus. I do not care for you. you do not care for anyone. you just want to control people. I have told you over and over and over again to GO THE FUCK AWAY because you cannot have control over me or my body.

            now, BLESS YOUR TINY BLACK HEART. FUCK OFF!

          • myintx

            Most women obey laws…and keeping something like murder, infanticide or abortion legal because some might do it anyway is beyond crazy….

            Telling someone they cannot abuse their dog, kill their newborn or kill their elderly parents isn’t about control. Neither is telling someone they cannot kill their unborn child. You would have to prove to me that telling someone not to kill their newborn is controlling before you could even try to say that telling someone they cannot kill their unborn child is controlling them… You have failed miserably at trying to prove that.

            If PP wants funding all they have to do is stop killing unborn children – it’s as simple as that. They don’t want to do that because they make lots and lots of money killing unborn children. Don’t blame Trump, blame PP if they have to close for lack of funding.

            I want vulnerable human beings to be protected and you think I have a black heart. wow. just wow….

          • Panika MCD

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          • myintx

            If you don’t wish to engage with me then you can go away. You can close your eyes to the truth….

          • Panika MCD

            you don’t even leave people alone when they ask so I doubt that you follow law–least of all the laws set out by your faith. you fucking twat.

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          • myintx

            You don’t have to read my posts.

            If two people are having a debate and each has their own podium if one person says “leave me alone, go away” is the other person supposed to go away and let the person have the stage to themselves?

          • Panika MCD

            YOU DON’T HAVE TO RESPOND THEN. GOOD BYE. GO TO HELL SINCE YOU CLEARLY WANT TO GO THERE ANYWAY.

          • myintx

            You don’t have to respond either… it’s that simple. Go hide from the truth.

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            keep hiding from the truth because you simply can’t stand to not control the conversation. you can’t learn anything by trying to control other people. you just create more suffering. but you’re just fine with that. shall we call you MASSA Control Freak since you seem so eager to feed the human trafficking market with more unwanted children?

          • doktorzoom

            Hi! You’re certainly welcome to go start your own website and invite people to debate you there. Wonkette owns this forum, and we’re not under any particular obligation to hand you a podium. You’re not really welcome to take over the comments section as your own personal soapbox. Bye!

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          • Panika MCD

            telling someone who can’t keep their nose out of other people’s medical care that they are a control freak is accurate. you don’t get to decide where I go for birth control, regular check ups or to have an STD screening. it is not any of your fucking business, you stupid fucking control freak. it’s not even your business if I have an abortion some day–which is unlikely as I had comprehensive sex ed so I’m very good at saying NO to the boys and having safe sex with partners who understand what consent is. you clearly do not understand what consent is.

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          • Panika MCD

            all you have to do is stay out of other people’s legal medical care and leave them alone when they ask you to. this seems a concept that is foreign to you. did you know harassing people on the internet is illegal in Texas? IT IS! and since I have told you a number of times to leave me the fuck alone and you have refused to do so, should I take down your IP address and report it to the authorities your stupid asshole? I THINK I SHOULD! oh, but I guess you only break laws that you don’t think should be laws while shoving your big fat face up in other people’s business while voting for lots of people to die.

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          • myintx

            Slavery used to be legal…. I’m sure slave owners used to say “my wanting to own slaves is a LEGAL and private decision. Oh, and my doctor thinks it would be good for my health to own a slave. Go away!”

          • Panika MCD

            typical control freak. not reading any of my posts because they don’t want to know the truth, but making trite little arguments. did you know that the US is the largest consumer of trafficked human beings? did you know that there are more honest to god slaves here than at any point before in our history even though it’s illegal? did you know that Texas is ground zero for human trafficking? OF COURSE YOU DIDN’T. you don’t want to know the truth. you just want to be an insufferable bitch. but if you can make women carry more humans to term so they can be trafficked, it’s all the same to you because you don’t care about protecting anyone, you only care about control.

          • Panika MCD

            you don’t protect vulnerable human beings. you create them so you can tell them what to do and you don’t like it when they don’t do what you tell them anyway.

            BYE FELICIA!

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    • Fivedollarfeminist

      Please find a better source than Abby Johnson. In fact, there are disastrous consequences for women’s health when Planned Parenthood is eliminated. See: Texas. But, more to the point, why should your opposition to abortion govern where millions of women get their healthcare? We all pay taxes, so don’t tell me your tax dollars are somehow more relevant than mine. If a woman thinks PP is the best provider for her, who are you to insert yourself into her personal, medical decisions? You want to try to ban abortion legislatively, that’s your right. But taking medical care away from poor women in an attempt to harm abortion providers is deeply immoral.

      • Shanzgood

        You’re wasting your time with this one. She’s been spouting the same nonsense for years. I know her from when Rewire used to be RH Reality Check and they still allowed comments on their articles. Trying to engage her in a meaningful conversation is about as productive as hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.

        • myintx

          RH Reality couldn’t handle the truth and blocked me.

          Saying an unborn child is a human being is the truth, not “nonsense”. Saying innocent human beings should be protected isn’t “nonsense” either.

          • Shanzgood

            They probably just banned you for being so boring.

          • Tokays_don’t_blink

            “If you’re pre-born, you’re golden; if you’re pre-school, you’re fucked.” Spake by the late great George Carlin.

          • myintx

            We have laws saying born children cannot be killed. Nice try George.

          • Tokays_don’t_blink

            Unless, of course, the parents decide to faith-heal them, because “religious freedom.”

            BTW, is your refrigerator running?

          • myintx

            Are you OK with a parent deciding to use faith-healing?

          • Tokays_don’t_blink

            Does it matter what I think?

          • myintx

            Yes….because you can vote for legislators to pass laws based on what you think. And a president you vote for may be able to appoint a Supreme Court justice or two…

          • myintx

            Nope… they couldn’t handle the truth.

      • myintx

        All PP has to do is stop killing unborn children and I’m sure states will be happy to fund them. And there are other clinics out there that the funding could go to – clinics that don’t kill unborn children.

    • Panika MCD

      you really want to go with that? the TX lege is trying to prohibit Travis County Central Health from working with PP which we’re pretty pissed about. they were very kind to me a couple months ago when I went in to get tested for a UTI.

      I can guarantee you that we have many more community health centers than wherever you live in the state. we also have a new medical school that will be staffing health clinics, but CPCs do not a community health center make and the new clinics can’t accommodate all patients so we’d kind of like to have the local control to keep them as a provider. on the list of “community health centers” that your side has passed around to legislators there are OBGYNs that can’t accommodate new patients, primary care physicians who also can’t accommodate new patients, pediatricians, dentists and dermatologists.

      the number of DIY abortions in the state has skyrocketed since the sonogram bill passed. kids are ordering random things off the internet which may or may not give a person an abortion, but is surely not healthy for them. flea markets are dealing in pills which, again, may or may not give you an abortion, but are certainly not healthy for them. we’re pushing 53% of births in the state paid for by Medicaid and a bunch of medically dependent children got kicked off their therapies paid for by Medicaid/CHIP resulting in at least 2 deaths so far. not to mention the 100 kids who die in the foster system every year.

      in fact, the Texas Senate adjourned for the Easter/Passover break in the name of Liliana Estavez who was an infant murdered by her mother’s abusive boyfriend and the mother didn’t seem to care about it.

      but you don’t give a shit about any of that, you just want to feel morally superior. well, guess what? you’re not moral in any way, shape or form. thanks for playing. go fuck yourself.

  • Jared James

    Just wait ’til they get to use a MOAB. We’ll teach those caterpillars what’s what!

  • Opalescent Riddles

    “Rather, states have the option to spend money on comprehensive healthcare clinics that better serve women and girls.”

    With “better” being decided by a bunch of old white guys around a table somewhere. So states will also have the option to spend zero money. Whenever these things are relegated to “the states”, many, many people in many states end up having vital services cut off.

    As for “comprehensive”, Planned Parenthood is quite good. Even dudes can get care there.

    • myintx

      Wish the Supreme Court had known about the “no old white guys allowed” decision before Roe V Wade… They would have never made the mistake of saying women can kill their unborn children as we’d still be waiting for a supreme Court made up of women, and non-white guys….

      • thixotropic jerk

        Wish Mathilde would engage brain before posting bullshit about unborn children abortos and nonsensecalities but that’s asking a lot

  • MOG253

    States Rights, really?????

  • Aileen

    Still trying to figure out why any woman, or person who hopes to have sex with a woman at any point in his life would vote Republican.

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