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Same clusterfuck time, same clusterfuck channel

Now that the Congressional Budget Office has released its analysis of the effects of the Republican plan to kill the Affordable Care Act and replace it with a cardboard standee of a doctor, the Republican consensus is in: After repealing the ACA, they need to kill the CBO, too. Or at the very least, Republicans simply don’t believe the CBO’s estimate that repealing the ACA will cause 24 million people to lose health insurance by 2026, although they’re pretty sure the same report’s estimate of deficit reduction is perfectly accurate. Let’s start right at the top, from Tom Price, the secretary of Dismantling Health and Human Services, who said it was a load of hooey:

“We disagree strenuously with the report that was put out,” Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price told reporters after leaving a Cabinet meeting with Trump at the White House. “It’s just not believable is what we would suggest.”

Why is it not believable? Obviously, because the CBO only scored the actual bills the House has actually approved, not the magical changes to come later, like selling insurance across state lines (which, depending on state insurance regulations, will give more people “access” to cheap plans that don’t really cover much of anything) and limiting malpractice awards, which will free incompetent doctors to offer care at a lower cost. Hi, Dr. Nick!

Even before the CBO report was released, administration officials were trying to undercut its credibility; we’re particularly pig-bitin’ mad at Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s director of the Office of Management and Budget, who took to the Sunday Shows to half-truth the CBO’s report on the ACA:

If the C.B.O. was right about Obamacare to begin with, there’d be eight million more people on Obamacare today than there actually are […] Sometimes we ask them to do stuff they’re not capable of doing.

Ever the nit-pickers, the New York Times points out what a clever lie that is:

The number of people who have signed up for insurance through the health law’s exchanges is lower than expected, in part because employers did not drop coverage to the extent that had been anticipated. In addition, the Supreme Court ruled that states could not be compelled to expand Medicaid — and many Republican-led states did not.

So yeah, fewer people got Obamacare because employers kept insuring them — a tragedy! — and because Republican governors refused to accept Medicaid expansion. Shame on the CBO for not recognizing what craven bastards Republicans could be. Still, Mulvaney makes a good point — it’s possible the CBO once again hasn’t counted on all the ways Republicans might decide to screw people over even more. At least this time around, as we noted earlier today, the CBO anticipates a lot of employers may decide to keep insuring their workers because they don’t trust the new GOP law will be at all stable.

Paul Ryan decided to go Full Pollyanna, stressing all the wonderful news in the report and not mentioning any of the trivial details like people losing coverage and skyrocketing costs for older policyholders:

“This report confirms that the American Health Care Act will lower premiums and improve access to quality, affordable care. CBO also finds that this legislation will provide massive tax relief, dramatically reduce the deficit, and make the most fundamental entitlement reform in more than a generation,” Ryan said in a statement. “These are things we are achieving in just the first of a three-pronged approach. It’s important to note that this report does not take into consideration additional steps Congress and the Trump administration are taking that will further lower costs and increase choices.”

Funny, we can’t seem to stop embedding this video lately:

And it’s true — for some, premiums will come down, because the new law will get rid of a lot of the ACA’s requirements that policies actually cover health services people need. So lots of people will once again be able to buy really shitty insurance that will fail them when it comes to actually being … what’s the word… health insurance. The cost of real insurance, of course, will go into the up-up-up.

Speaking of Paul Ryan, let’s have a hand for MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell, that good Catholic liberal from Boston, who gave Ryan holy hell Monday for being an especially crappy Catholic. Noting that Ryan wouldn’t dream of forgoing health insurance for his own family, O’Donnell ripped Ryan for being perfectly willing to take it away from other families when he should be defending those who are most vulnerable:

That is what Paul Ryan’s religion teaches him. But he does not accept that interpretation of Catholicism, no matter how many members of the Catholic clergy believe that. When Paul Ryan looks at the federal budget, he sees the devil, and he wants to destroy it, he wants to hack away at it. He always has and he always will; he wants to cut that budget, and nothing makes him prouder than cutting money from the federal budget that goes to programs that Republicans don’t like, including the tiny amounts of money that go to funding the arts, and the large amounts of money that go to supporting health care for poor people. The thing he is proudest of in this legislation is what it does to what his religion would call “the least of our brethren.”

Happily, displeasure over what the AHCA will do to low-income folks isn’t just limited to MSNBC hosts. South Dakota Sen. John Thune (R-Yes Really!) says he’s planning an amendment to increase the refundable tax credit for those in lower income brackets, which is better than nothing. Barely. Republicans Lamar Alexander and Roy Blunt say they’d support such an amendment; that’s a significant step away from the House plan, which bases the credits only on age.

“I do think there are things we can do to tailor the tax credit in a way that it makes more attractive to people and more helpful to people on the lower end and with a phaseout that is a little less steep than what the House has,” Thune told reporters Tuesday […]

It is unclear how much the tax credits would be increased by.

Hey, guys, here’s an idea: how about tax credits indexed to income that actually subsidize a significant portion of premiums for people in the lowest income brackets, then taper off for folks with higher incomes? You could copy that over from Obamacare. While you’re at it, you could expand Medicaid and prevent insurance companies from gouging older policyholders. And instead of that stupid 30% premium increase for those who let their insurance lapse for two months, how about some kind of individual and employer mandates to make sure younger, healthier people are in the risk pool, to keep premiums lower for everyone? You could copy a lot of good cost-saving, coverage-increasing measures over from the ACA, but call it something like the “Very Affordable Care Act That Republicans Thought Of Themselves.”

Or heck, you could simplify the whole thing and make Medicare available to all Americans.

Strangely, that’s almost what the free-market loons at NewsMax endorsed in response to the CBO report; Newsmax editor (and real life close Trump pal) Christopher Ruddy has decided that since states regulate insurance companies, then private insurance isn’t REALLY a market-based system, so for all Americans who can’t afford insurance he wants Medicaid (not Medicare) for all, at least until the free market finds a way to make cheap, full-coverage insurance available to everyone. It is actually an insane piece of writing that insists on single-payer coverage as a stopgap until the market figures out how to make insurance much cheaper. We actually sort of support that, if only because no truly free market approach to healthcare exists anywhere or is able to provide universal coverage. So if Ruddy wants single payer until Free Market Jesus comes, we’re willing to take the single-payer part and wait right along with him.

We might snicker at him quietly, though.

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  • Nick Scroggs

    Don’t forget Sean Spicer, he just went on and on at the press briefing today, I was wishing someone would shut him up. Anyone know a place that tears down what he said, I’m kind of busy at the moment to do so myself.

  • TJ Barke

    STOP WORSHIPING THE FREE MARKET, IDIOTS.

  • Anna Rompage

    The only additional choices the GOP/Trump Care bill is giving us is what bare bones, stripped out catastrophic care plan can we afford and still manage to put food on the table, and a roof over our heads…

    • willi0000000

      not quite . . . you still won’t be able to afford it!

  • Undocumented Skwerl!

    I support Ruddycare.
    Single payer for the people!

  • JMP

    Paul Ryan is such a monster that he sees destoying government aid to people that will kill about 17,000 people a year as a positive. He wants to be a mass murderer, because he thinks being poor should be punishable by death. Fuck that evil shit.

  • maxneanderthal

    Never occurs to the free market goons that single payer universal healthcare IS the ultimate expression of a free market (the nation state) buying the best product (universal health care) from the best provider (the elected government)..

  • elviouslyqueer

    how about tax credits indexed to income that actually subsidize a significant portion of premiums for people in the lowest income brackets, then taper off for folks with higher incomes?

    And do something that actually advantages those smelly poors over Real Honest To Goodness Actual Fucking Asshole Richie Rich Americans? HOW DARE YOU, SIR OR MADAM.

    • willi0000000

      unless the tax credits actually result in negative tax being paid to “those smelly poors” it isn’t going to do much good to somebody who doesn’t pay taxes now.

  • Well, it sure beats single prayer healthcare.

  • BadKitty904
  • TJ Barke
    • maxneanderthal

      “Rightguard will not help you here…”

    • man he can fry my very last nerve and then and then all of a sudden ‘nazi punks fuck off’ has renewed meaning.

  • Nockular cavity

    “we’re particularly pig-bitin’ mad”

    An Ed Anger reference!

    • tehbaddr

      Ed Anger! Used to buy the Weekly just for his rant! Brilliant!

    • Peripatetic Poltroon

      Hey now. Pigs be nice animals. No biting.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Dems have to go Brer Rabbit on em’: “Don’t you even bring up ‘single payer’!” “No single payer…nosiree!”

    • BadKitty904

      What will be funny is watching the GOP claim to have originated the idea…

      • Opalescent Riddles

        Let them. Sometimes the trick to getting what’s truly right is to convince the opposition that it’s their idea. NIH (not invented here) Syndrome is quite real.

        • BadKitty904

          If they’d fall it, I’d be willing…

          • willi0000000

            we can always tell them after it becomes law.

  • memzilla Ω

    Dear Zombie Eyed Granny Starver Ryan:

    Allow me to entruthify your bullshit, WITH CAPS:

    This legislation will provide massive tax relief TO THE POINT OH ONE PERCENT,
    dramatically reduce HOW MUCH RETHUGLICANS GIVE A SHIT ABOUT the deficit, and make the most fundamental entitlement reform DESTRUCTION in more than a generation. These are things we are achieving in just the first of A THREE-PRONGED APPROACH.”

    Below: picture of Rethuglican holding actual three-pronged approach
    . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e2ea9522e1ccdf5fa1395e9f1c656a8cdf8a21a59e76722e4974b3b50629f53.jpg

  • Inner Venom

    Single payer!? B-but that sounds like…like…SOCIALISM!!! AAAAAAH!!!!

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    We just need to give single payer a good Republican Cloth Coat Name. I suggest RepublicanCare!….

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Bonus point for Checkers Speech reference!

    • Ill-Advised

      RepubliCare?

    • schmannity

      Republicant.

  • diogenez
  • Jonny On Maui

    We can continue to debate the various fixes required to get quality health care for all, but until we eliminate the root cause, nothing will change.

    Here’s some heresy, let’s remove the profit motive.

    • TJ Barke

      Why do you hate freedumb?

    • Latverian Diplomat

      For a second there, I thought “removing the root cause” would be uploading our minds into robot bodies or something. I’ve gotten so use to crazy when it comes to this stuff.

      And yes, even countries that have private insurance as part of their universal coverage, they don’t allow those companies to make a profit on it. Oddly enough, those companies see it as an opportunity to establish customer relationships and demonstrate the quality of their service. An idea truly foreign to US insurance companies.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        This all goes back to something Adam Smith mentions in that commie book, The Wealth of Nations. That banking as a profit center is a bad thing that inevitably leads to economic chaos as individuals in positions of power make decisions that bring the entire structure crashing down.

    • tehbaddr

      No profit motive? Waddaya some kinda commie!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    stopgap until the market figures out how to make insurance much cheaper

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/426e09ea7bc1c7c9e51bb6eb1d42dc3c49b36af8ca0d1a6e1db98fbc90d30f0e.jpg

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Well, if they actually intend to implement TrumpCare as promised, the ONLY way they will do it as single payer, or nationalizing the entire health infrastructure of the United States and having something very like the VA or the military health care system run it.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      As much as I’d like that plan, I don’t think the GOP has the brains to do anything that’s effective or intelligent. I’m not sure they even know what they want anymore or what they stand for. “Obamacare” is THEIR plan from the 1990s, and they attacked it savagely. Dumb idea, since they now have to figure out how to screw their own base over, while still getting them to vote for them.

      After they’ve finished kicking their base off of insurance they’re going to blow the government up, and cut all social programs. Sure, that’s going to go over just swell with their base, who all make massive use of the federal government. I’ve always known that their dumb base votes for them because they’re too dumb to know what they’re actually voting for. They always think they’re voting to screw the other moochers over. It will be interesting if the GOP succeeds in killing Obamacare, and their base finally figures out who’s really screwing them.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Since they actually do not give a flying fuck about anyone but the .01%, they will do nothing. They will allow people to die from lack of health care, they will allow people to die of chronic conditions that could have been avoided with preventative care, because the .01% hoarding all the wealth in the country is the only thing they feel like doing. This much is painfully obvious from “Phase I”, and they haven’t told us jack shit about Phases II and III.

        No, the ONLY way to deliver Donald’s promise of 17 January that is possible is single payer on the health insurance side. Nationalizing health care itself is probably the only way to solve the cost issue…as our Maui correspondent indicates, the profit motive must be removed from health care.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I wish we’d had single payer from the get go. I think we COULD have gotten there if Hillary had gotten elected. Sigh…it kills me that 70,000 idiots got to decide what the country would be like for the next 30 years or so (Hi, Neil Gorsuch!), and they aren’t going to like it, if they live that long.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            ACA was meant, I firmly believe, to be an intermediate measure to allow the health insurance industry some time to get their act together for the inevitable emergence of a single payer system that would essentially end their role in all this. They’re supposed to be the cost control mechanism, but they way they were set up they became an end unto themselves and friction started to erode their utility in that role. Eliminating them reduces the complexity of the entire system and allows the single payer entity to tackle the issue of soaring costs, which have jack shit to do with tort reform, which is very obviously a feint on the part of the greedmeisters to avoid the real issue, which is a for profit health care system that can’t exist as a conventional market in the Econ 101 sense.

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            Every other civilized country in the world went to single payer health care after WW II, because they knew they’d go broke eventually if they didn’t. We’re the only country that said “nope, let’s go ahead and put an additional, expensive layer in our health care system, and just keep kicking the can down the road.”

            If Bush hadn’t blown up the debt with his tax cuts and wars, we’d be in much better shape to deal with health care for our aging population, as it is, I guess we’ll just keep kicking the old can down the road. When it gets to the point that people can’t afford insurance at all (the not too distant future), people are going to demand universal health care. Republican stupidity might get us to that point sooner than I was expecting. If they get slaughtered in the 2018 elections, the GOP might have a REAL come to Jesus moment.

  • cheetojeebus

    a paradox: Republicans are terrified of places where they feel out of control and out of place, Dark people scare them, Ebola scares them, men putting their whatzits where the sun don’t shine scares them, Poor people with pitchforks scare them, Their biggest fear is the dark stuff what dwells in men. They conflate the color and tone and evil btw, ie Crazed dark men invading their home and raping their womenz, Yet, they love them some free market, man unleashed etc, no fear that that dark stuff will lead to some god awful rapey pillagy things. I don’t want the market unleashed. That’s a fucking nightmare right there.

    • Jeff Ackerman

      Speaking of fear…. “Religion is based . . . mainly on fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.” Bertrand Russell

      • Lord Jim

        Religion is what people make of it. Religion can be borne of a stubborn hope that somehow the better angels of our nature can prevail. Religion can rise from hearts that believe that we should will for others the good we will for ourselves. It is bad people acting in bad faith that makes for bad religion.

    • teele

      Interesting thought, “Ebola scares them.” With more people getting sick and not being treated, they might want to think about what that will mean for them down the road, in case they want to eat at restaurants, or use a bathroom that was cleaned by someone else (even in their own homes), or purchase a ticket at the movies, or accept change, or let someone run their CC and hand it back to them, or pick up something in a store to get a closer look. Maybe best to stay behind closed doors, and spray everything down with Lysol every couple of hours, so they don’t become victims of the poors’ disease.

      • cheetojeebus

        in a nut shell, These are the people who were afraid of little kids of a darker shade. I don’t think we should ever let them forget the way they screamed at those busloads of little kids. Baffling to me that they can get there. To that point.

  • BadKitty904
  • memzilla Ω
    • Inner Venom

      If people couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Clinton over Trump because of their so called “principles” without regard for the safety of others, then they’re being selfish, not moral.

    • JustDon’tSayDieInJail

      Failing that, they can help themselves to some salted rat dicks.

  • wait! what?

    Basically, single payer is going to be just another iPhone app that poor people can’t afford.

  • Crystalclear12

    This is going as well as could be expected.

    Loving the whole Republican “leadership” thing.

    • Blackest Noobs

      i predicted as much with my wife. during the past election i was like maybe them ( them being assholes who apparently voted Republican) winning will finally put the nail in their own coffin. all they’ve done for decades is perfect the way to win an election no matter the cost of money or personal morals and ethics and they obstruct everything and put forth proven failures ( looking at you Kansas, you wonderful wonderful EPIC FAIL of a state) as a substitute for leadership..and now they’re the dog with the bone AND they have NO IDEA how to LEAD.

      now mind you Dems don’t fair that much better…but we had a Barry who is helluva a better guy than that jagoff you Republicans sold pieces of your soul to be YOUR trash-talking uncouth President.

      even Andrew Jackson feels a bit embarrassed for you all..EVEN OLD HICKORY….

  • ryp

    Any affordable health care plan has a network you have to use in order to maximize benefits. EPOs and HMOs typically only pay for in network care. So how is buying across state lines supposed to work? You buy a cheaper plan out of Arkansas, and have to travel there to see a doctor?

    • YoBunnyBunny

      And depending on the region, health care services do not cost the same from region to region. If Podunk Community Hospital charges a literal arm and a leg for a procedure and the insurer is not willing to pay the cost, either Podunk Community isn’t going to accept the insurance or the insurer isn’t going to cover the cost.

      I’m no insurance expert, and I don’t exactly know shit about shit, but I am not convinced our free-market-loving insurance companies are going to be all that crazy over this plan.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      This is why it won’t work. The insurance companies aren’t going to do it bc they are not going to go to the expense of setting up networks in another state. They’ve actually stated this.

    • Ill-Advised

      Coordinated care contracts. If you travel to another state and need health care, your carrier’s network likely includes a carrier there–if that’s in their business model. It’s how regional insurance companies cover their members and grow their geographies.

    • technically it’s already in place. you can offer plans right now that cross state lines. however in practice, it’s unwieldy and expensive and nothing more than a novelty for most folks.

      we have a couple here in cook county. no one buys them b/c they’re ridiculously overpriced PPOs that cover less in Chicago than most HMOs.

  • Jamoche

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/14/paul-ryan-doesnt-know-what-to-do-with-the-steve-kings-of-the-gop/?utm_term=.f6649873d065
    “Paul Ryan doesn’t know what to do with the Steve Kings of the GOP”

    In his interview Monday night with Baier, Ryan didn’t mince words disagreeing with King’s tweet: “I don’t think that statement reflects what is special about this country,” he said. But then Ryan added this: “I would like to think — and I haven’t spoke to Steve about this — I would like to think he misspoke, and it wasn’t meant the way it sounds, and I hope he’s clarified that.”

    Actually, King’s tweet was meant exactly the way it sounds. We know this because King said as much on CNN earlier Monday: “Of course I meant exactly what I said, as is always the case,” King told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.

    You invited them to the party, you deal with them.

    • TJ Barke

      You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy…

      • Jamoche

        People keep saying that, and yet it keeps happening…

      • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

        I dunno…there’s this cantina on Tatooine that’s pretty bad too.

        • TJ Barke

          I heard it’s been gentrified.

          • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

            Wouldn’t surprise me. They probably serve white wine there now.

          • Peripatetic Poltroon

            or white wimmin

          • SpideySenser

            Where they at?

          • Lord Jim

            “You ain’t supposed to end a sentence with a preposition.”
            “Where they at…muthafukka…”

          • Lord Jim

            Garcon! Stella Artois, s’il vous plait?

          • UncleTravelingMatt

            That place has always been like that — only serving the right “kind”, if you know what I mean.

        • Doug Langley

          Any place that plays Benny Goodman can’t be all bad.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Listening to Paul Ryan adds a whole metaphoric layer to the name “Greedo” in this context

      • tehbaddr

        These are not the plutocrats you are looking for.

    • Crystalclear12

      He keeps puking the punch, it’s time to show him the door.

    • JMP

      So every one of the many dozens of times Steve Kings has made outrageously racist statements, he was just misspeaking? Really?

      • mardam422

        Well, consider the source. It IS Steve King, after all.

    • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

      But remember – The Democrats are the real racists!

      • Peripatetic Poltroon

        Every white man that fails to kick a black man is a racist enabler. It’s just so damn obvious. Why can’t you see that? Why?

      • Lord Jim

        Of course they are! Because they keep banging on and on about it! If people would just shut up about racism, it would end! See, “racism” is a word, so if you stop saying it, there won’t be anymore racism! Arglebargleherpderp!!!

        I think I just pissed away an IQ point.

      • Paganish

        Because of Forrest Whatshisname, Democraps founded the KKK, right??? /s

    • BosGrl

      “I disagree” is BS. Well, duh, most people disagree. I disagree when my daughter wants pizza two nights in a row. Until the Ryans and the McCains start acknowledge racism and white supremacy BY NAME they are giving it a wink and a nod.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “Misspoke”.

      Look, I know Steve Martin is retired from comedy, but forget about it, Paulie. His shoes are far too large for you to ever fill.

    • SqueakyRat

      “OK, Steve, I understand what you’re trying to say. But you could just express it a little better. ‘Cause some people, totally unfairly of course, might call you a racist.” Best always, Paul Ryan

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      I’m having a hard time imagining what part of “Other People’s Babies” was mis-spoken, and what he meant to say.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba
  • BadKitty904
    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Don’t you have the ambulance take you several emergency rooms, so you can comparison shop?

      • Unmutual Tetsu Kaba

        Hahahahahaha…

      • Millswiththethrills

        Free market capitalism! Can we get Über to be our ambulance drivers???

  • SayItWithWookies

    Like all good free marketers (remember Dubya’s bailout in 2008?), NewsMax & Co. go running to socialism to save them from their goddamn ideological purity.

  • OrG

    These fuckheads don’t listen to what they say,do they?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Geez, what other markets can we regulate so much that Republicans throw up their hands and say “Might as well just have socialism!” It seems like a plan.

    • BadKitty904

      Every first-world nation on earth has universal healthcare, but – for some “mysterious” reason – the Republicans tell us it won’t work in America? Hmmm…

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        That’s because other first world nations tax their rich people to afford it.

    • JustDon’tSayDieInJail

      Banks, maybe?

    • HogeyeGrex

      AOT,K?

  • Sheepshagger
  • Look, the old ways are just better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APXLid0D584

    • Blackest Noobs

      just saw Dinosaur and immediately i was like when did Dinosaur Jr do a video with the Dinosaurs from Dinosaur tv show….it’s just where my brain goes…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwa3DO5_irM

    • Jenny

      This episode scarred me for life!

      Seriously, my grandmother had just died and I was like nooooooooo I loved cranky grandma dinosaur too. Stahp it, world! Stahp!

  • FrenchFriar

    These clowns in the trump administration think they’re running one of their scams and can just move the numbers around in order to fool whoever they’re selling their crap fund to.

  • memzilla Ω
    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Did someone say ‘trickle down’?”
      — Donald Trump

      • Hairstrike Alpha

        Beautiful. That’s a golden trickle.

    • mardam422

      On average, no one will be sicker!!!

      • PubOption

        True with a money-weighted average, but not with a number average.

        • Opalescent Riddles

          And since they think “more money” makes you “more of a person” they’re just fine with the former over the latter.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Since I am really really likely to lose my employer-based coverage within the next 2 months, could they, like, fix this now? I’m an old person about to lose another big chunk of my income and really need to know what the holy fuck is going on.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      These clowns do not get that FUD is no way to run an economy.

    • Ill-Advised

      Yeah. I’m about to pay the equivalent of mortgage payment, starting June, to keep my employer-based coverage. I have no idea what’s going to be available if I don’t.

    • hey love you’re in IL right? i can help. i’m really good at sussing out all the ACA options.

      it’s not going anywhere in ’17 (and probably ’18) so you’ll be fine.

      contact doc for my email or you can get me thru getcoveredIL connector (laura)

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Thanks! Will do–I think I’ve got the client one through April, possibly May; after that they’re skirting the law too hard based on my hours.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance
  • CindyinEncinitas

    Reading this gave me a stomach ache, so I’m going to just wait until the vote is over and everybody did what is best for the American people before I read another word about insurance.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “The only thing we hate more than the CBO is the American people.”
    — Your Republican Party

  • DahBoner

    If I was a Grandma to a Republican politician, I might actually want to be pushed off a cliff…
    https://media4.giphy.com/media/mpC8rgdESuTyU/giphy.gif

  • Creepoman

    I nearly stroke out every time I hear this discussed from a purely political standpoint. Healthcare is not a goddamned luxury, it is a basic necessity. People. Are. Going. To. Die. (lots of them). Like 15,000 every fucking year.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Anyone have data on how much small businesses could save/profit under single payer?

      • Celtic_Gnome

        The car companies complained during the Obamacare debate that it was hard to compete with foreign companies. The money the US companies’ spent on current and retired employees’ health care could be directed to R&D in foreign companies.

    • BadKitty904
      • magyar of infinite power

        Shouldn’t “Again” be at the end there?

        • HogeyeGrex

          You only die once.

          • magyar of infinite power

            There was no easy way to phrase “After page, but before Just”

          • HogeyeGrex

            I know. Just being a dick.
            Wouldn’t want to mess with the curve.

  • tapp_my_wire,please

    The driving force of personal responsibility towards GOP healthcare is to avoid getting run over by a bus, look both ways before crossing and to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, drop by PP for b/c. Oh, wait.

  • JustPixelz (((Ω)))

    Republicans got their talking points today: The CBO is good at estimating money and bad and estimating people. Every R on TV said it at least a billion times today. Taking their talking point at face value, the number who lose coverage could be must higher than the CBO estimate. Or even much, much higher.

  • tehbaddr

    Somewhere in that “Granny Off The Cliff” video there should be a cut to Paul Ryan’s face as he pushes the chair!

  • SqueakyRat

    OMG, no, please, not the three-pronged approach! What’s my safety word again?

  • Anna Elizabeth

    I really don’t give a fuck about Lawrence O’Donnell’s religion. He, and *all* reporters, are as worthless as tits on a boar.

    I’m out for a day or 2. Take care, Everypony.

  • Opalescent Riddles

    The free market is great for things that you don’t really need but simply want, or even things that you sort of need but could make do with something else. For example, if a particular new car you want costs too much, you contemplate a cheaper brand of car, a used car, or even riding a bike or taking public transit. If your car gets “sick” you can balance the cost of repairing it against all the aforementioned options. You can even trade in or sell a broken car, piece-by-piece if need be, to help defray future costs of transportation. So the providers of new cars can exert only so much power over the free market, and consumers have significant power, as it should be.

    This is the body I was born with. If I get seriously ill, I have so little power: I might have but one chance to make it right. And should I prematurely slip this earthly coil, society would take a very dim view of my wife selling me off in parts to fund her subsequent life without me.

    This is why healthcare will never be a truly “free market.”

    • Sophia

      Hey, I’ve always told my son to sell me for pieces parts when I’m gone.

      • thixotropic jerk

        Went to school with a guy named Rhys. His foot had an accident with a lawn mower. Afterwards he was nicknamed “Rhys’s Pieces.” True story.

      • Opalescent Riddles

        I over- and under-reached in my attempt at flowery prose. What I really meant was, if I had a treatable but expensive health problem, society would frown upon my wife deciding I was not worth fixing, letting me go post-mortem, and selling me off in pieces etc.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Yep. Strip out anything of value like a biological chop shop and burn the rest.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Nay nay! Under Trumpcare, you will always be able to sell your parts!…

      • magyar of infinite power

        But not in a prostitutey way, because Jesus

    • HogeyeGrex

      Health care, like police, courts, the military, etc, should not be seen as a “product.” That’s the root of the problem.

      Also, too: In a “free market” a product is sold for what the market will bear. As I’ve said before, people will spend every dollar and then some to stay alive. Health care is the last thing on the planet you want to be “free market.” It would devolve into the most degenerate racket the world has ever seen.

      • Lambsendbeds

        Would dissolve? Hasn’t it already done so?

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    So, I guess we really will be bartering with our doctors using chickens now…

    • OrG

      Old Skool!

    • tapp_my_wire,please

      If your doc is a practicing Santerian or Voodoo witch doc, you might get a good deal and medical outcome.

  • tapp_my_wire,please

    w/o repealing the ACA taxes, how will Alice Walmart Walton afford the vet bills for her horses – who probably get better medical attention than 5 million kids.

    • Red Bird Ω

      Hey, we all take better care of our family than we do strangers.

  • pgjack

    News Flash!!! For Profit Health Insurance Companies take a big cut from any premiums paid – that’s the “profit” part of “for profit health insurance”. Do away with that part of the equation and costs come down but then health insurance companies wouldn’t be able to build all those great big buildings and health insurance company execs wouldn’t have those huge estates around the world and pay dirt low wages to people to keep them beautiful in case the boss stops by.

    • Notreelyhelping

      Humana did build Louisville a couple of nice theatres.

      • Rockefellers built some nice theaters also.
        Still killed hundreds of workers without much empathy not to mention poisoned the water and air of so very many more.

      • Lambsendbeds

        I used to be an OR nurse at University of Louisville Hospital. We were bought out by Humana and became Humana Hospitality University. When we were owned by U of L we got the same benefits and holidays that the U of L employees got. It was very generous. When Humana ate us up we got pretty much screwed. I hate Humana. I moved from Louisville to the Bay Area 20 years ago, so I wasn’t aware that the Humanoids had done anything nice for the city. Hooray…

  • aktlib101

    Well, here is what a democracy should do and how you make companies do what is right. Money talks. Hope they find a way to go after the “fake news” next.
    “Germany plans a new law calling for social networks like Facebook to remove slanderous or threatening online postings quickly or face fines of up to 50 million euros ($53 mln).
    “This (draft law) sets out binding standards for the way operators of social networks deal with complaints and obliges them to delete criminal content,” Justice Minister Heiko Maas said in a statement announcing the planned legislation on Tuesday.”
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/germany-plans-to-fine-social-media-sites-over-hate-speech/

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Clearly, they don’t know about Votemotif!….

  • Persistent Demme

    So glad to see the term “TrumpCare” taking off.
    Bonus: he hates it!!

    • Pilotshark

      care should not be used unless it has one of the three beginning.

      TrumpCare
      RyanCare
      Republican Care
      cause in the end they DON~T CARE!

    • hendenburg2

      Someone on Maddow was suggesting ChumpCare

  • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie
    • Jamoche

      Trump reminds me of any number of Judge Judy litigants – scamming contractors, breaking promises, cheating landlords…

    • phoenix00

      IOKIYAR

  • Beowoof14

    There is no free market way to fix healthcare. We should follow what every other industrialized democracy does and have a single payer health system. However, republicans and their voters can’t figure this out. That would be because they are always looking for a way to snooker the poor out of what little money they have.

  • shoeflyin

    Sort of on topic…I just got my first response to a tweet (I have maybe 10 followers)…and it was from Grover fucking Norquist! Either I touched a nerve or heven doesn’t have much to do these days. I told him he wasn’t a decent human 🌝

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      And you think this is a way to grow your followers? Yes. Yes, I guess it is….

      • shoeflyin

        Hey it might just work.

    • SpideySenser

      You are correct! He is not.

  • Bill Slider

    Why do I think that in October 2018, that the GOP will be so close, so very, very close, to repeal and replace?

  • Randy Riddle

    Something just dawned on me recently.

    Paul Ryan is a big fan of Ayn Rand. Rand’s first novel, “We the Living”, is basically about a young woman who sells herself into prostitution to buy her TB-infected lover healthcare. And, somehow, in Rand’s twisted thinking, this makes her a noble individualist.

    • hendenburg2

      Normally I’d point out that helping someone else is anathema to Rand’s philosophy.

      But then again, it’s not like Rand ever employed consistent logic in the first place.

      Also, her true first novel was never published, probably because the “hero” was modeled after someone who kidnapped, murdered, and dismembered a 12 year old girl.

      • LadyLaz

        Really??? What is that one???

        • thixotropic jerk

          Dummald Trump: Time Traveling Sex Predator

      • Lord Jim

        She was enthralled by his total lack of “herd instinct” (i.e. empathy, conscience…).

    • Doug Langley

      Well, not exactly a noble person. She was claiming that the Soviet state was so horrible it was forcing good people into such horrible compromises.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Do you suppose the Repubs are too dumb to see the parallels, or do they see them and don’t care? (More of a rhetorical question, of course)

        • Doug Langley

          Ryan has already stated that he considers Atlas Shrugged an instruction manual.

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Ah, so the AHCA is more of a long con to “create jobs” by forcing millions of people to consider/engage in prostitution. Got it.
            Those conservatives sure do love them some hookerz!

          • zerosumgame0005

            or just as body servants fighting over the scraps the 1% toss at the floor as they laugh at them

          • Dudleydidwrong

            Is there a school where one learns to be a pee hooker? Trump U dropped the major I heard.

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Melon didn’t want to run the demonstration seminars anymore.

      • Randy Riddle

        Which is like, so comparable to Obamacare, of course.

    • Jukesgrrl

      People who love Ayn Rand are loathe to admit how her life ended. After spending her career screaming against government aid for anyone, in her senior years she signed up for Social Security and Medicare under her legal married name Alisa Rosenbaum O’Connor (Mrs. Frank O’Connor). And guess who helped her do it? A social worker. Gee willikers, no hero social worker characters in her books, were there? Rand suffered from lung cancer due to her copious smoking and cost the taxpayers a boatload of money before she went to that great Capitalist Paradise in the sky.

  • Khavrinen

    “Republicans simply don’t believe the CBO’s estimate that repealing the ACA will cause 24 million people to lose health insurance by 2026”

    Or rather, Republicans don’t want any voters to believe the CBO’s estimate. Privately, they’re hoping it’s much, much higher.

    • H0mer0

      then how is Ryan spinning this to make it sound like the CBO likes “Fubarcare” better?(thanks Ordinary Joe)

  • boyblue123

    Ryan and McConnell are being paid by their corporate masters to kill off healthcare.

    Republicans clamoring for anything other than no healthcare will be disappointed

  • mardam422

    See, they can’t really increase the tax credits. The House Crazies are already pissed that the AHCA doesn’t get rid of more people faster, and they damn well aren’t going to vote for something more expensive. And what with the Democrats sitting in their chairs saying “Please proceed!” and not being especially ready to vote for anything other than Obamacare forever, the Repubs are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    • theCryptofishist

      And they did it to themselves. With some help from the Koch brothers.

  • Pinkham’s Law

    So if Ruddy wants single payer until Free
    Market Jesus comes, we’re willing to take the single-payer part and wait
    right along with him. ”

    http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/284/922/0e3.png

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    The Onion Struggles to Lampoon Trump
    “We’ve always thought of him as a horrendous buffoon, an objectionable person.” [T]he editor and his staff … weren’t thrilled by the prospect of having to cover, even satirically, a Trump Presidency. “I felt a comedic dread,” Chad Nackers, the forty-three-year-old head writer, said.

    • boyblue123

      The Onion cant really top any headline that Trump makes in the regular news.

    • phoenix00

      He really lampoons himself, doesn’t he?

  • Mavenmaven

    Next, they will ask that certain benefits apply to certain gerrymandered districts only, so that they can just exclude the types of people from care they don’t like altogether. Agamben’s biopower in action.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    The Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition (Fubarcare) Act.

    • LadyLaz

      But but “freedom.”

      • OrdinaryJoe

        Freedumb! *fixed

      • theCryptofishist

        Freedom to rip off the american people.

    • The Wanderer

      I call it IDON’TCARE, because it doesn’t. And the fact that these assholes can sleep at night is proof that there is no god.

  • Ωbjectifier

    I don’t really have anything to say, but check out Batman and Robin! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/101565058f3810d48884f8631136ae9132e836123d887997ff427b581970186d.gif

  • Bitter Scribe

    “Emergency! People are being helped by their government!”

  • Red Bird Ω

    So this is how we’re going to end up with BernieCare? Okay.

    • Marceline

      What is BernieCare? Is that where straight white Millennial men get served first while everyone else gets relegated to the Identity Politics pool?

      • Red Bird Ω

        Single Payer

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        BernieCare is a ripoff of 1993 Hillarycare.

      • Tiny kaiju

        Old people get extra long appointments with their care providers so they can gripe about all of their aches and pains, and what those neighborhood kids get up to in the middle of the night, and aren’t my grandkids the cutest ever. Reimbursement is increased to providers and the people in the waiting room get free healthy snacks and a foot rub. Everyone’s happy and it provides jobs too.

  • TheoLib

    “We disagree strenuously with the report that was put out.” – Tom Price

    Cue Tom Cruise mocking Demi Moore’s “I object strenuously” in A Few Good Men.

    • Wait, they disagree? Guess we’ll have to disagree to disagree and every opinion is valid and we’ll have to teach the controversy

    • mfp

      first thing that popped into my mind…”oh, you Strenuously Object, well, ok then, i’ll take some time to think it over….”

  • nightmoth

    I’ve long thought there was something fundamentally wrong with a medical care system in which insurance company shares are traded on the stock exchange. Obviously, peoples’ health is being thrown onto a gambling table. That’s not right.
    If we end up with single payer, after all the obstacles and watering down the GOP inflicted on Obamacare, then I will truly think Barack was a Zen master playing 11 dimensional chess all along.

    • Millswiththethrills

      I work for a large “community non-profit” health system who has been sending emails out saying this whole “repeal and replace” could cause a problem. For employees. With benefits, salary decreases, hiring, etc. We are already a 70% uninsured/Medicare/Medicaid facility. Good thing our CEO makes 1 million a year and registered/voted republican. He should run for office at his level of hypocrisy.

      • nightmoth

        OMG. Worse than I thought.

    • LucindathePook

      But, but, but look how well putting the home mortgage market on the stock exchange worked.

  • starfanglednut

    So won’t 24 million uninsured people going to ER’s when they get sick wipe out any savings generated by this plan?

    Not only will it kill people, but the plan might not save any money.

    • Millswiththethrills

      I mean pretty much the whole of the Medical society and Hospital systems were against Obamacare, but their complete eye roll at this replacement plan is quite frankly terrifying.

      • mtn_socialist

        The AMA, the hospital lobby and the nurse’s associations were very prominent and vocal supporters of the Affordable Care Act. Medical professionals backed Obamacare by overwhelming majorities, and they made no secret of it.

        • Millswiththethrills

          Right, because of the increased insured rate so they wouldn’t have to eat the cost of caring for the uninsured. But the health system I work at did not enjoy the pricing regulations and they generally considered ACA would cost them tens of millions. They just did hiring freezes, stopped wage increases indefinitely and generally took it out on the employees. Although before the Trump election, things had smoothed out and were functioning well.

      • Tiny kaiju

        The ACA was very helpful to small rural hospitals by creating a purchasing group that reduces drug costs. It allows these hospitals to provide lower cost care for an already underserved market. Hospitals in general welcomed the idea of more privately insured patient and fewer people using the ER as their primary care provider. The GOP has Medicare and Medicaid rigged to provide crappy reimbursement to doctors and hospitals so fewer providers will accept CMS patients. This is another problem for rural areas where you can’t attract good providers anyway. Maybe the local veterinarians can start taking human patients.

    • Charon_69

      see also..’two birds, one stone’

  • JoeChristmas

    Yeah, but there were over 200 million victims of Obummercare!!1!

    Access! Freedom!! Choice!!1! Competition!11!!

  • DisarrayAlways

    I have been so traumatized and suffering anxiety attacks, that I haven’t been reading Wonkette until this week. I recently returned from a vacation in New Zealand (wish we’d stayed longer). I don’t think there are nicer people on the planet than New Zealanders. They cannot understand our health care system. They never have to worry about affording health care. The people we talked to were also perplexed about Trump. We assured them that we, and the majority of Americans, didn’t vote for him

    • cafiene

      As a Canadian, I can’t wrap my head around why you have the foxes running the henhouse. Like, we literally pay nothing to birth a baby, set a broken bone, get stitched… I’m getting a pap next month and my only cost is missing some work. If dentistry and some meds were included, there’d be nothing to bitch about except the CRA and the weather.

      • mtn_socialist

        The foxes have a powerful lobby — several of them, in fact. The average wage earner does not. Does Ottawa have anything similar to K Street?

        • cafiene

          We have lobbyists, and several retired politicians who work with them, but I don’t think they have the same influence and they have more regulation, especially in regards to donations. Also, it helps that only elected people are in cabinet. We wouldn’t have a Devos situation here. Our cabinet members all ultimately have constituents, not share holders.

      • Aiden Stein

        As an American, most of us are equally puzzled.

        We look upon some 25% of the nation and wonder what kind of nutcase could vote for the person portrayed during the campaign.

        There was a kind of perfect storm, as it were, where Americans of multiple viewpoints are seriously disappointed by the dysfunction of the federal government. About 60 votes for repeal of the ACA, every one of them hopeless against passage, and everyone nothing more than a snickering joke.

        When this bombastic, rich loudmouth ran, some (just enough) decided he was their wrecking ball of choice.

        Combined with a lamentably boring opposition, with baggage of her own, on top of a quaint and illogical voting design that is vulnerable to strange effects and hacking, we ended up with the most improbable of presidents.

        The political right can’t wrap their head around the fact that even insurance systems, as we have in the US, are a socialist construct wrapped in a private contract with lots of fine print. That all but literally reads; from each according to their ability to pay premiums, to each according to their need for medical services.

        They think there is some free market magic for medical practice. They seem to think people can shop for cardiac surgery, or cancer treatments, as if they were HD TV’s. They think they are paying for their own medical care.

        The look on a genuine conservative’s face when they, after long argument, realize, as I leave them no other conclusion, that if they did get $200,000 worth of cardiac surgery or chemotherapy, everyone else pays that bill for them. Upon reflection of that, they are embarrassed. It conflicts with an ingrained belief system they simply must deny. They’d rather think of it as a bet, like in a casino, than a socialist construct.

  • Can I snicker at him loudly?
    But for real, this is our chance to talk non stop to everyone about single payer. We’re paying INTO it so not socialisms and everyone has what they need.

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    I called my congresscritter yesterday and suggested that he offer an amendment to the Republican bill that includes a public option. That got a chuckle.

  • Ilgattomorte

    The problem with a market based healthcare system is, there is no market for a product that no one wants to sell.

    Under the Republican plan, the young and healthy will be incentivized to buy cheap plans that cover nothing or forego insurance completely. This leaves the sick, the disabled and old people to fend for themselves in the healthcare market. No one wants to sell insurance to that group.

    Just imagine all of the wonderful competition there will be to sell insurance to those people! Just imagine all of the fantastic “fuck you” quotes that insurance companies will write for your grandmother. Or, even better, just imagine all of the choices you will have. You’ll have the choice to pay an insurance company for virtually no coverage, you’ll have the choice to pay 5 times more for full coverage, you’ll have the choice to have no coverage whatsoever, or you can just use the Emergency Room and choose to fuck up healthcare costs for everyone else!

    Isn’t choice a wonderful thing.

    • laineypc

      another lovely feature is that no health care user has any fucking clue what their health services will cost until they get the bill.

      • TakingAmes

        Oftentimes the provider also has no clue, too.

        • laineypc

          good point!

    • mfp

      youmean…like everything was, before the ACA?

  • azeyote

    how bout taxing the shit out of the rich to pay for the well being of all – instead of giving them tax breaks that only pays for their well being

    • mfp

      but….but….Soshulism!!1!!1!!

  • Millswiththethrills

    Here’s a big one for you all: the “medical device tax” included in ACA which kept getting delayed and was never implemented is a huge part of why the ACA was never fully excepted. You literally have no idea the mark up on medical equipment and service and you’re all smart enough to figure out the enormous corporations that would be affected by it.

    • Millswiththethrills

      Hint: most of them pay zero tax.

  • and while we are consumed with the ACA (i work in ACA so am consumed with ACA), bannon et alia is gutting every other part of the government.

  • laineypc

    Just so I am clear, the Repubs are telling us that the CBO tends to overcount people who will be on the plan? And they are saying that like it’s a good thing? “The CBO says 24 million more will be uninsured by 2020. But based on past mistakes, we think it will be many more than that. Maybe in the millions. Therefore, our plan is not as bad as it sounds.”

  • DerpyGurdyMan
  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Trump’s own Whitehouse analysis says it will be more than 24 million.

    https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-analysis-26-million-uninsured-ff07a6e8d824#.mjhttfrzu

    • ZangoCrudmonger

      “The White House analysis found that coverage losses would include “17
      million for Medicaid, six million in the individual market and three
      million in employer-based plans,” according to Politico.
      The analysis also concluded that a total of 54 million people would be
      uninsured by 2026, roughly twice as many people currently uninsured
      under the Affordable Care Act.”

    • Bebecca

      I’m shocked that Trump has anything resembling an analyst.

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        Either a leftover from Obama’s administration or some flunky of Reince Priebus.

  • nick kelly

    The main key error in Ryan’s argument: he shows the pie chart with the small blue slice of high demand folks and asks why the broad swath of healthy YOUNGER folks should subsidize them.
    Why? Because we ALL end up in the high demand slice of the pie.
    It’s like asking why young folks should pay into a pension when they aren’t the ones getting paid by it.
    Someday they will be.

    • mfp

      seriously–and he’s ‘the intellectual republican’…khaa-rhyst…..

    • TakingAmes

      If we’re lucky.

  • CATMAN

    Our Republican friends also forgot to tell us that the reason many insurance companies pulled out of the exchanges was the defunding of risk corridors thus transferring risk from the government to the insurers–this was spearheaded, or dickheaded, by Little Marco of Florida

  • theCryptofishist

    And people wonder why I don’t completely trust people with legs who want to help me…

  • Jukesgrrl

    It’s already the Ides of Trump on the East Coast. Don’t forget to mail your postcards today! Tell Der Gropenfuhrer what you think of Trumpcare. Here are Wikipedia instructions if you didn’t see my other posts.
    https://www.theidesoftrump….

  • The Wanderer

    Wait a tick. Batman’s throwing a gang sign?

  • mfp

    teeheehee

  • Stulexington

    If you can’t beat em, pretend it was your idea all along.

    • Mr Canoehead

      Seriously, a lot of the Republican fear and hatred of Obamacare was that people would like it and Obama would get the credit. I think a lot of them would be happy to duplicate the ACA and put their own name on it.

      • Jack Tenhet

        Well, 45 did say himself over the weekend that everyone would remember how great Obamacare was.

    • TakingAmes

      It WAS their idea all along!

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Trump is trying to put the blame on Ryan and Ryan is trying to put the blame on Trump. So what should we call this dumb non-plan to put the blame where it belongs: Trumpcare? Ryancare? Putin-Trump-Ryancare?

    • wide_stance_hubby

      TryantoCare.

    • John Orendorff

      DonTcare

    • cyninoregon

      TrumpDoesNotCare

  • Relativicus

    That Ruddy statement gets funnier every time I see it.

  • Bebecca

    What is the justification for tax breaks for the uber wealthy in their health care bill?

    • TakingAmes

      They generally don’t feel the need to justify tax breaks for the uber wealthy.

    • ANNG14

      That’s what it is always about with Republicans what is best for the uber wealthy.

    • JP

      I think it’s either laziness or they have no rational alternative. They are too leery of keeping the ACA system of subsidizing by income and just do it by age. $2000 below 60 and $4000 above 60 which is just giving wealthier boomers an extra tax credit for insurance they already have access to from their companies (I would imagine this scheme would start a conflict in which corporations would want a piece of the tax credit since they pay most of the insurance cost, but who knows). It’s upside down. In ACA the less income you get the more money you get for insurance. In this plan, the poorer and younger you are (exactly the people you want having insurance to keep it flush) the less you get. Americans never wanted to repeal ACA because of coverage, they just want the prices for that coverage to be lower. In others words, we want Cadillac insurance at Volkswagen prices, and we actually are close to that considering what we had before ACA. It just needs some tweeking. Medicare for all would be even better

  • Mpeg

    So. ANyone hear from BaconzGood?

  • ANNG14

    Good News! President Trump’s approval rating on the Gallup Daily Tracking poll tanked to 39% from 45% on the 11th. This coincides with the disastrous rollout of TrumpCare.
    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/15/trumpcare-appears-toll-trumps-approval-rating-tanks-39.html

  • RandyK54

    I am a physician and with you all the way on this. However I really wish you would not equate malpractice claims with physician incompetence, as you have done here. Multiple studies have shown that malpractice occurs all of the time, and malpractice suits occur all the time, but that the people getting sued and those committing malpractice are not the same people. For example, neurosurgeons may be the smartest doctors around but are the most frequently sued, because they have a high rate of surgical failures. It just comes with the territory. Kind physicians who are less competent are sued much less than highly competent physicians who are rude. As a doctor I would pick a competent Dr. With a lousy bedside manner rather than the other way around any day. This is what gets in doctors craws. Patients think that a bad outcome equals incompetence and it just doesn’t. Life itself is a bad outcome. All we really do as doctors delay the inevitable. If malpractice suits, which are won by physicians 85% of the time, and actual malpractice were not so discordant, we might well feel differently.

  • Ducksworthy

    I look forward to the return of indemni1 policies that will pay you a whopping $360 if you get cancer.

  • IonaTrailer

    Don’t forget the DNA tests that will be mandatory when you start a new job. Better hope you have good genes…

  • Mo Bone

    Didn’t a White House administration internal analysis predict even more dire numbers of people uninsured as a result of passing Trumpcare than that of the CBOs analysis? Does anyone on here know if that is true? If it is true, then the Trump administration is selling a lie and compounding it by trying to discredit the CBO numbers. Typical GOP, if you don’t like the reality, then change the facts.

    • JP

      Yes true. CBO = 24 million, WH OMB = 26 million.

  • JP

    Yeah, I can just imagine people in NY or NJ buying cheap insurance in Alabama or Missouri and expecting them to pay for high priced NYC doctors. Not happening.

    • Pierre_de_Fermat

      That is part of the magical thinking behind these absurdities.

  • JP

    I’m telling you Trump is missing the obvious here. If he demanded we go to universal, single payer healthcare paid for with taxes and small co-pays (Medicare for all), the whole country would fall in love with him, even Democrats, and isn’t that all he’s looking for… the love? He would then control the healthcare market and be able to regulate prices downward for everyone.

    • ANNG14

      Trump is looking for money and what’s best for the Russians and the wealthy.

  • Such a beautiful piece of satire. Thank you, doc.

  • ANNG14

    Republican thinking: Throwing 24 million people off health insurance will save us money so we can give a tax cut to the wealthy.

    • @MrsRazor66

      Also making sure those 3 million evil doers working for ObamaCare lose their jobs as well…

    • RandyK54

      They forgot to tell us that it will save money because people will die before they become eligible for Medicare, which is in fact one of the findings of the CBO.

      • ANNG14

        Republican “death panels.”

  • Shartiblartfat

    Jeebus fucking crow! Does anybody among the Republicans understand why people begin to disappear by 70 and disappear from actuarial tables before they’re 120 years old!?! Who’s going to take a bet they’re not going to die?
    https://youtu.be/OGnE83A1Z4U

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