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On November 8, 2016, a large majority of Americans — or a large majority of those Americans who could be bothered to vote — made their decision and spoke it from the mountaintops that they wanted Hillary Clinton to be their next president. She beat her opponent Donald Trump by approximately three million votes! It was definitive. Unfortunately, another “definitive” thing is the antiquated Electoral College system, which decided that 70,000 people in three states should have their votes count for WAY MORE than three million people in California and other bastions of Liberal-Land, therefore Donald Trump is the president, and he and his on-again/off-again lover Speaker Paul Ryan have released a disastrously stupid “plan” to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act AKA Obamacare, and people will literally die if it passes.

But what if the Electoral College/Russia/FBI Director James Comey hadn’t fucked up errbody’s business in the 2016 election? What would President Hillary Clinton be doing to our healthcare right now? Probably the same thing as Trump, because there were lots of smart people last year who told us, for serious, that the Democrats and the Republicans are Just The Same. Luckily, we can find out what Hillary wanted to do with healthcare (FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!) by going to her website, which is still up and running.

For starters, in the #AlternativeFacts wonderland where Hillary is currently the president, she has just introduced a plan to “Defend and expand the Affordable Care Act,” i.e. keep the nice plan that’s helped so many people, but make it great again, just like Donald Trump wants to do to America! She wants to keep the parts that work and fix the parts that don’t, like for example by bringing down co-pays and deductibles, and also doing something about the outrageous cost of prescription drugs. President Hillary knows that, instead of deregulating insurance companies so they are free to dick over consumers MORE, sometimes you have to stick your foot up Humana and Pfizer’s ass and tell them to stop crying because their current gazillion dollar profits are SLIGHTLY lower than they were before mean Obama made them give healthcare to people with pre-existing conditions.

President Hillary wants to lower the Medicare eligibility age to 55, and encourages states to expand Medicaid more, so that more poor people might be covered. This is very different from the Trump/Ryan plan to let gross poors, including the poor white people who voted for Trump, just die a whole lot. And SPEAKING of those poor white people, Queen Hillary, who couldn’t even be BOTHERED to address their needs at ANY TIME during the campaign, somehow managed to leave her ivory tower long enough to include a plank in her plan SPECIFICALLY about them:

Expand access to rural Americans, who often have difficulty finding quality, affordable health care. Hillary will explore cost-effective ways to make more health care providers eligible for telehealth reimbursement under Medicare and other programs, including federally qualified health centers and rural health clinics.

Oh well, unfortunately we don’t live in#AlternativeFacts Land, and Hillary is not the president. It sure is too bad all those white voters in the Rust Belt were so racist and sexist having an economic anxiety attack on election day, because those very white voters stand to get screwed HARD by the plan advanced by Trump and Ryan. Maybe they should get informed next time they decide to exercise their right to vote.

President Hillary also would have protected Planned Parenthood, including the abortion part, and she wanted to make it so immigrants, EVEN ILLEGAL ONES, could buy insurance on the exchanges. Of course, we imagine many of the conservative white people who voted for Trump would rather DIE than see ‘bortion and Messicans protected, so lucky for them, if Trump and Ryan’s “healthcare plan” passes, they might get their chance!

FYI, as we are actual bleeding heart liberals who don’t want people, even stinky Trump voters, to die for lack of healthcare, we think that fucking sucks.

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  • Doug Langley

    And I would have the job of my dreams that paid $60,000 and leave me enough time for personal pursuits.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Just as an aside, I’m still not convinced that the Republican abomination of a healthcare replacement might not pass, as improbable as that seems at the moment. Seniors will have to choose between medicine and food again. The Republicans will blame Obama and the Democrats and say if they had passed a decent health care bill in the beginning, they would not have had to take such drastic measures.

    The insurance companies will make more, LOTS more. Their CEOs will get richer. They will line the pockets of the Republican members of Congress to thank them for their gifts.Trump’s legions of aged supporters, ruined by his clueless and deadly policies, and stripped of health care due to Trump/Ryancare’s financial burden, will crawl on their hands and knees, line up in their Hoverounds and go to the voting booth in 2018 and 2020, and with their last dying breath, pull the lever for Trump and the Repukes____because they’re just stuck on stupid, and they’ve got team spirit and that ol’ time religion of terminal ignorance……and all that is bad in the land yesterday, today and tomorrow: “Obama’s Fault.”

    Sorry, a little Debbie Downer in me on this.

  • h4rr4r

    At the very least these Republican free market warriors should let Americans import drugs from nations with lower costs. Arbitrage is a major part of capitalism.

    • HorseChestnut

      Or let us get them made by our friendly local compounding pharmacist (they still exist). I tried to do this when we lost our good insurance and we found out that the generic version of one of my partner’s medications was going to cost us about $2,100 per month. The local pharmacist could make it for about $80 per month, but as it turns out, that’s illegal, because it’s available from a manufacturer. That made me so mad I couldn’t see straight.

      • TJ Barke

        We’ve got similar problem in veterinary medicine. For instance we have an nsaid called previcox that works for both dogs and horses, but a little bit goes a looong way in the horses, so we used to prescribe the dog version for the horses, because the horse version is waaaaaay more expensive per mg. But we are no longer allowed to do that.

        • HorseChestnut

          If anyone actually wanted to look at unnecessary regulations that hurt people, they’d be talking about shit like this.

      • marxalot

        Patent law and copyright protect our corporate persons, citizen. They’re more important than you.

  • Crystalclear12

    Dear GOP
    As your health plan is pretty much DOA in the Senate and you have failed bigly. May I recommend a distraction?
    Say an investigation into Russia?
    You know, something to distract from your failure.

    Sincerely

    Helpful Citizen

  • Creepoman

    “Maybe they should get informed next time they decide to exercise their right to vote.”

    This is the problem with American elections – the campaign is just too short to get to know the candidates and their positions.

  • memzilla Ω
    • Darrell Imaginarian

      Single payer is a bit of a sleight of hand. It works well… by cutting pay for doctors, nurses, and hospitals. By as much as half. That makes the doctors hopping mad! But Berniecrats never actually acknowledge that doctors and other health professionals are overpaid as compared to other developed countries, and that would have to change. Nobody wants to mess with doctors because most people trust their overpaid doctors more than their underpaid politicians.

      • Ricky Gay

        “people trust their overpaid doctors…” until they can no longer afford to go to them.

      • memzilla Ω

        Please provide proof of your assertion, because your unsourced statement is at odds with everyone who’s not on the Heritage Foundation et al. payrolls :

        What will happen to physician incomes?

        On the basis of the Canadian experience under national health insurance, we expect that average physician incomes should change little. However, the income disparity between specialties is likely to shrink.

        The increase in patient visits when financial barriers fall under a single-payer system will be offset by resources freed up by a drastic reduction in administrative overhead and physicians’ paperwork. Billing would involve imprinting the patient’s national health program card on a charge slip, checking a box to indicate the complexity of the procedure or service, and sending the slip (or a computer record) to the physician-payment board.

        Under single payer, won’t physician incomes go down?

        Not necessarily. Canadian physicians have done well under their single payer system – as documented in a recent, careful study. In addition, streamlined billing under single payer would save US doctors vast amounts in overhead, and free up additional physician time to see a few more patients. Hence, even if doctors’ gross incomes declined slightly (a questionable assumption if they’re freed up from insurance paperwork and able to devote more time to patient care) physicians’ average take home incomes wouldn’t change under single payer. Of course, some doctors’ incomes would go down – e.g. those who currently enjoy a particularly rich payer mix. On the other hand, some would see an increase – e.g. those currently caring for many Medicaid or uninsured patients.

        – answer contributed by Dr. Steffie Woolhandler

        • Darrell Imaginarian

          We pay GPs more than any other country in the world. Doesn’t take very long to find that. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/02/charts-day-doctor-pay-america-and-other-countries

          • memzilla Ω

            Who are burdened with overhead costs which eat into their gross incomes, that other First World countries don’t bear. The point of the article is “take home income.”

          • Darrell Imaginarian

            Uh, sure. But how does single payer magically pay for doctors university training so they don’t need loans? Or eliminate their need for expensive liability insurance? It doesn’t. How does single payer eliminate residency programs that artificially constrain doctor supply? All those issues have to be tackled individually. Ezra Klein describes these issues at length. http://www.vox.com/2016/1/17/10784528/bernie-sanders-single-payer-health-care

          • ZangoCrudmonger

            Are doctors some magical beings above taking loans like, say, engineers, lawyers, scientists, etc? Most post grads end up with debt, doctors shouldn’t get a pass from that fucking albatross.

            Being an MD is a career, not some ascension to deity. Insurance is part of billing, like any other company, say construction, which has to be insured and bonded, from what I understand.

          • Darrell Imaginarian

            If costs for medical school could be brought down, the price of health care could also come down. It’s not clear to me that anybody is trying very hard.

        • Truthiness2U

          That being said, universal coverage =/= single payer. There are other systems that have universal coverage that aren’t single payer.

          Switzerland might be a better way for us to get there. Might not be. Just saying that saying that you’re against single payer,doesn’t mean you’re against universal coverage, as has been asserted by some on the Left.

      • kindness

        Single Payer would be nice but who is going to vote for it? It couldn’t pass on a representative body type vote because every single insurance company, medical equipment manufacturer & physician group will be against it. And they give way more to campaigns than you & I do.

        Hell Public Option could pass but we had Shining Knights like Joe Liebermann (CT/Insurance Industry – I) who made sure that never saw the light of day.

        Choose your battles wisely. You may only get to fight that battle once a decade.

  • canes_pugnaces

    Is that the universe where good, wholesome Christians who eat bacon and hate amoral liberals don’t vote for a pussygrabbing amoral serial cheater who also happens to be a pathological liar?

  • Oblios_Cap

    Shit! I could retire under Hillary’s plan. Fucking Russians!

  • Msgr_MΩment

    President Hillary also would have protected Planned Parenthood, including the abortion part, and she wanted to make it so immigrants, EVEN ILLEGAL ONES, could buy insurance on the exchanges.

    Ironically, Trump is trying to abort all those immigrants out of the country.

    Both sides.

  • memzilla Ω
    • Msgr_MΩment

      Is Al Gore’s lockbox (TM) still available?

  • Undocumented Skwerl!
    • Michael Smith

      That’s seriously the kind of ad campaign we need.

      • Undocumented Skwerl!

        I was looking for creepy Uncle Sam… but this seemed better.

        • MeerkatsRMammals

          I bet this Uncle Sam does keg stands

  • dslindc

    I want to move to #AlternativeFacts Land. How do I apply for citizenship?

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      At this rate…we ALL wanna know how to apply for citizenship :( Kinda wanna punch anyone who thought Hillary & Trump were “equally as bad”. Look, we all know politicians are scumbags (generally), but I can guaran-damn-tee that things would be much calmer now – even with a “moody woman” in office. I’ll take moody woman over tangerine toddler ANY day!

    • Crystalclear12

      Sorry full.
      But the GOP sponsored #Alternative Facts Land is still taking anyone willing to believe them.

  • Michael Smith

    Was she told when she was young
    That pain would lead to pleasure
    Did she understand it when they said
    That a man must break his back
    To earn his day of leisure?
    Will she still believe it when he’s dead

  • vh

    OT, but i’ll try to tie it to personal responsibility in a bit. gimme a second. its snowing here and its howling. the snow lines are horizontal. happy that the snow falling vertically over my property is getting blown to my western neighbor. pissed that my eastern neighbor’s snow is falling on my property. my eastern neighbor is such a moocher who has no sense of personal responsibility and masks her evil designs behind sweet smiles and shared pies and being a neighborhood kid magnet.

    • cheetojeebus

      Build a wall! a really high one. Make her pay for it. You’re welcome.

      • vh

        brilliant. did you come up with that idea?

        • cheetojeebus

          Science!!1111

  • Martini Ambassador

    You guys forget, though. Hillary has a vag. She would have been far too emotional and fragile to handle the rigors of presidenting. Probably would have had to take off for some luxury spa or something like that each weekend.

    • dslindc

      EMAILS, also too!

    • Oblios_Cap

      I rather like vags. But I’m a American-hating liberal.

    • Bill D. Burger

      With Bill in Chappaqua at a cost of $500k a day so the dog can finish obedience school.

    • Michael Smith

      Well, according to Return of Kings she would have spent her whole presidency gossiping and trying to put other women down in order to appear more attractive to alpha males, so I think we dodged a bullet.

  • Rick Hill

    And, another nail for the coffin, trump supporters are soo mad, grrrr, that the new health care fix will help Hillary voters and hurt trump supporters
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-voter-on-health-bills-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-it-pisses-me-off-but-my-wife-pisses-me-off-too/

    • capnkrunch

      And he [small business owner/Trump voter] argued that the wealthy could afford to pay higher taxes.

      Also he still supports Trump. Yet more evidence that it is bigotry and ignorance that keeps Republicans in power (this guy is from Paul Ryan’s district).

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “Cletus, the liberal elites done tricked us again!”

      • Rick Hill

        “It’s them damn Democrats!!”

    • HorseChestnut

      Pretty much all of Trump’s policies are going to do that. I mean, if the federal government is crippled, my safely-blue state’s going to have a bunch of extra money to spend on infrastructure etc. We are not going to be screwed.

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    The ACA could have had a chance to work if the GOP hadn’t spent the seven years since its inception throwing bombs at it.

    • Bill D. Burger

      And they worked tirelessly in D.C. and in every state they controlled, to delay, hinder or destroy it.

  • Résistance Land Shark Ω

    Obamacare overhaul: Why GOP says it’s not about the number of people covered (CS Monitor)

    For several days, President Trump’s chief budgeteer, Mick Mulvaney, has been saying that the GOP plan is not about the numbers covered but about Americans’ access to quality care they can afford – and allowing them to make their own health care choices.

    ACCESS does not equal AFFORDABLE.

    • jodyleek

      And just because you could afford a plan, that doesn’t mean the plan covers jack-squat. Oh, yay, I only pay $150 for health care coverage. It covers one sprained ankle or one stubbed toe each year. (Insert sad trombone sound here).

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Access does not even mean getting any.

  • Sardonicuss

    “President Hillary wants to lower the Medicare eligibility age to 55, and encourages states to expand Medicaid more, so that more poor people might be covered.”
    …..just makes one want to cry…again.

    • Rick Hill

      What? Does she want to make paul ryan cry?

      • Sardonicuss

        I don’t know about Ryan, but as a 55 year old, who is about to lose his health insurance under “not President Hillary Clinton” ..it makes me want to cry.

  • Me not sure

    Steve Harvey : We’re looking for ” things that Trump gives a shit about”. Is healthcare there?
    Braaannkkk! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/65c6c5685d7b737f4bde1599f69eb7645bf05b4b869ab860452f9bac5758e83f.jpg

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    “Every single American will have access and have the financial feasibility to purchase it,” Price said on NBC’s “Today,” noting that the plan provides tax credits to help some people purchase insurance.

    There are Americans who don’t have the financial feasibility to purchase FOOD, you bastard. How are fucking tax credits going to enable them to buy health coverage? Why not use tax credits for food and shelter? Why go through the tax system to provide credits when it would be simpler to just extend Medicare, you bastard.

    Why is it always about taxes? Without people paying their fair share for stuff, our society would descend into a neo-Darwinian struggle.

    Oh, I see.

    You bastard.

    • TJ Barke

      Can’t have people questioning the legitimacy of wealth accumulation and the unethical practices that allow it to occur.

    • Creepoman

      When you are dead, your premiums will exactly equal your tax credit.

  • RobKanC

    For a second there, I thought I had woken up from my long nightmare and Clinton had won. Thanks for getting my hopes up and letting me down all sudden like.

    • Rags

      Maybe we need a pure gaslighting web site that does nothing but invent stories about President Hillary’s day to day actions.

      • NotReallyHere

        I would absolutely read that!

  • Me not sure

    Steve Harvey : Were looking for ” things that Trump gives a shit about”. Is healthcare there?
    Braaannnkkk! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/65c6c5685d7b737f4bde1599f69eb7645bf05b4b869ab860452f9bac5758e83f.jpg

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Rick Hill

    Posted by Jim Stoner:
    What White Christian conservatives are suffering under right now is called the Concord Syndrome. They are too invested in the Republicans now to give up on them even if they wanted to.
    They knowingly gave up their own unions because the Republicans promised them a White apartheid America.
    They knowingly gave up their own environmental safety because the Republicans promised them a White apartheid America.
    They gave up their own jobs because the Republicans promised them a White apartheid America.
    They knowingly gave up their individual rights because the Republicans promised them a White apartheid America.
    They knowingly refuse healthcare because the Republicans promised them a White apartheid America.
    They knowingly elect the party of the rich because the Republicans promised them a White apartheid America.
    And so on.

    • TJ Barke

      I don’t think that all of them are quite that self aware.

    • Inner Venom

      You know, a few months ago I remember a white guy burned his own house down and tried to blame it on Black Lives Matter activists. That seems to be a fitting allegory for this election.

      • Clyde Barrow

        Or the hunters in Texas who accidentally shot each other than blamed it on migrants.

        • Inner Venom

          I suppose it’s fitting that the “party of personal responsibility” never actually takes any.

          • Clyde Barrow

            That, and the “I’m not racist, but…” line.

      • Indivisible Snark Tank

        http://youtu.be/MefNV-XZs5g

        Dunno why I was reminded of this.

    • HorseChestnut

      It’s like a cult. There are towns in this country where it is not safe to be publicly left-wing: my high school had a very active Young Republicans Club, but still doesn’t and will never have a Young Democrats, or Social Justice, or even a Queer-Straight Alliance.

    • Sardonicuss

      They have morphed cognitive dissonance into a mutual suicide cult.

      • GoutMachine

        Sad thing is, they’re committing suicide by bomb vest, so there’s a lot of collateral damage. If they were just screwing themselves, I’d be happy to say, “Fuck ’em, they got what’s coming to them.” But the sad fact is, so many people who didn’t sign up for this will get fucked.

        • Sardonicuss

          The rest of us are just like the children at Jonestown…except we know the Kool aid is poison and they are forcing us to drink it anyway.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      This is because they are racists first, and followers of Jesus a very distant second. They always have been. Their roots are in the 1860 breakaway Southern factions of mainstream religious groups.

      • Red Bird Ω

        Amen!

    • ZangoCrudmonger

      I want to use this, who is Jim Stoner? Not finding it on teh googs.

      • Rick Hill

        On Dicuss, found over at RS

    • Red Bird Ω

      Truth.

    • NotReallyHere

      Is the Concord Syndrome the same thing as the Sunk Cost Fallacy? It sounds like it from what I can tell. I think I like the term Sunk Cost Fallacy better, because it really describes what’s happening in people’s minds. They’ve invested time/energy/money (sunk cost) into something, and now they feel like they have to stick with it.

  • Clyde Barrow

    The nanny state government, surreptitiously watching me through my Binford 2100 microwave oven, is making sure I stay healthy….and that I never question the Dear Leader.

    Healthcare is just another way to control our freedom you silly libz!!1!

  • marxalot

    Jesus, if this thing passes, I can see a scenario in which my brother dies from his nonfatal chronic illness, or he kills himself to avoid bankrupting our parents. Or, in a mashup, he dies while bankrupting our parents.
    I need another slice of pie.

    • Jeffocaster in the desert

      Pi is irrational. So is Republican healthcare.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        That’s more math than went into Trumpcare.

        • Liberoid Ron

          ‘Look at all the money it saves! What do you mean, there’s more to it than that?’

          • Lord Jim

            Republican Priorities: Saving Money, Not People.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Trump would declare war on #AlternativeFacts Land, if it wasn’s so obvious we in #SadReality Land would get our asses kicked.

  • Shoto

    “But Hillary and Trump are exactly the same.”

    — Jill Stein

    • Jeffocaster in the desert

      And Bernie Sanders and Ralph Nader and the Libertarians

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Bernie did ultimately endorse Hillz.

        Some of his followers were huge assholes, but he did the right thing.

        • Lizzietish81

          Eventually…

          • Latverian Diplomat

            Yeah, that’s fair, but he wouldn’t be the first candidate to drag that part out.

          • janecita

            How is the snow treating you?

          • Lizzietish81

            It was gross and blustery and I never left my apartment.

          • janecita

            It’s still snowing here, the kids are happy, I’m not!

      • janecita

        Please, leave Bernie out of this fiasco.

      • Inner Venom

        “Libertarians are conservatives who smoke weed”. -A wise man

      • DrBigHead

        I will engage a person in debate from nearly any political philosophy except the libertarians and the objectivists. Won’t even waste my time on them.

        • Thiazin Red

          Agreed, there comes a point where you end up trying to explain normal human feelings to them. Or, after pointing out that history has clearly demonstrated over and over that strong government regulations are the only way to protects people, listening to them argue about why the entire history of the world ever doesn’t count because they weren’t doing libertarianism right.

          • Liberoid Ron

            One has the same problem discussing political theory with hard-line Marxists: ‘Well, nobody’s ever actually done Marxism right!’

    • Sardonicuss

      “No difference between the two” – Susan Sarandon

      • Bill D. Burger

        Susan and Jill take the ride of their lives! You’ve earned it girls. Enjoy.

        https://media.giphy.com/media/5Q4GDOdmjY7Bu/source.gif

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Two people who are obviously morans.

      • Clyde Barrow

        Big fan of Sarnadon’s, but she really put her foot in her mouth on that one.

        • Pierre_de_Fermat

          I like her a lot as well. But it was a dreadful call.

          • Clyde Barrow

            We all say and do stupid stuff from time to time, that’s what makes us human. The ‘Bernie or bust’ crowd meant well, but they unwittingly put a wedge into the Left that never recovered by election day.

            BTW, Sarandon is doing a fantastic job playing Bette Davis in the FX series ‘Fued’.

          • Pisto75666

            There’s a world of difference though between stupid and harmful. What she said was harmful, IMO.

          • Truthiness2U

            The problem is that she’s doubling down on it. When confronted with what shit-gibbon is doing now that he’s “president,” she talked about how great it was! that people were rising up! in numbers/ways they hadn’t!

            And this was about the time of the first Muslim ban. Like ‘hooray for people’s lives being fucked over due to their religion/country of origin, possibly irrevocably so. People were involved! And hooray! for all those women showing up –because some sexual assaulter in chief was going to try and make their lives even more miserable due to their gender.’

            It’s bad enough to be stupid, and short-sighted when issues are theoretical, it’s insupportable when confronted with the outcomes of your bad decisions hurting, literally, millions of people and STILL not being able to learn anything/say you were wrong. Fuck that, and fuck her.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        I hate her so bad!

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        We are already enjoying the glorious revolution that will surely bring on the golden age of leftist rule.

      • Darrell Imaginarian

        Except she thought Trump was more likely to lead to revolution, so was preferable. Yay! A hard core Leninist.

        • Sardonicuss

          What really torques me off about her now is her angry answers:

          “Why are you asking me about that? What I said in the past won’t fix our problems now!”

          Bitch, I hope you never do another interview again where you are not asked about that. You helped bring on the “problems we have now”!

        • Pierre_de_Fermat

          Well, there is Bannon who has described himself as a Leninist, so there’s that.

        • Red Bird Ω

          So, what exactly are these people expecting a revolution to do? Whenever I hear that my cynical side thinks that they’re using a new dog whistle for chase the browns out with violence. And Sarandon is just enabling them.

          • Tread

            They know they would never get their hands dirty in said “revolution.” They would be able to spout empty words and let other die in their place.

    • Inner Venom

      I was all in for Bernie most of the election but even I have to admit some of the Bernie bros took it waaaay too far. Despite the fact the he bowed out and told his supporters to vote for Hillary and they still didn’t vote or voted Trump out of spite is really disturbing.

      • Pierre_de_Fermat

        Well, for conspiracy theories on our side … suspicion that a lot of the “bros” were dialing it in from E Europe. I thought there was a kind of fanaticism from some that could not be explained by “devotion to a cause” … unless that cause were your job.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          I always thought that the worst of them were bro-refugees from Rand Paul’s failed attempt. It seemed to me that the whole Never-Hillz thing ramped up to 11 after Paul left the race.

          • Pierre_de_Fermat

            I thought a fair number were frauds from the start. They wanted things Bernie didn’t. Doubtless some were disappointed Bernie supporters. I think others played them, and they let themselves fall for it.

          • artem1s

            yep. they ran the same playbook trying to take over GOP caucuses and convention delegates in 2012.

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            The things they were saying about Hillz were just too gleefully hateful to miss that connection.

      • ZangoCrudmonger

        Lots backed Bernie here, and then moved on to H. as soon as it was evident she had it, and other reasons. What bothered me was soooo many otherwise unflappable progressives I knew swallowed every bit of anti-H right-wing propaganda as they could. Couldn’t parse the strengths and weaknesses, and went full on hate for Hillz.

        Still don’t get it.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          Lots of that was just flat-out misogyny….I was amazed at the amount of misogyny I saw from people I had always thought of as real progressives.

          • artem1s

            we have had an issue with faux-gressives infiltrating Ohio politics for ages. Kucinich left a hoard of his fanatics behind; hiding among the democrats and occupy. haven’t met one who isn’t a bigot, misogynist and/or anti-government.

    • DainBramage
      • GoutMachine

        Do you know what it’s like to fall in the mud and get kicked… in the
        head… with an iron boot? Of course you don’t, no one does. It never
        happens. It’s a dumb question… skip it.

        • Indivisible Snark Tank

          I haven’t been this sick since that Ronald Reagan movie.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Nao I haz an even bigger sad

  • Villago Delenda Est

    All these problems are solvable, if only we can get the greedheads out of the way.

  • azeyote

    yeah ok, but what about those e-mails, Benghazi and the pedophile ring that’s all baked in a pizza with triangle slices – what about that ?

    • marxalot

      Triangle Illuminati slices.

    • Clyde Barrow

      Gawd, the Pizzagate crowd. The people who believe that crap are seriously mentally unstable. I got into it with some nitwit over on a Death & Taxes thread the other day, and they came out of the woodwork with their stupid conspiracy. It didn’t even matter that even the GOP propaganda channel Foxsnooze came out and debunked it, they insist it’s as real as Unicorns.

      Avoid the Pizzagate conspiracy theorists at all costs. They’re hopeless human beings.

      • Pisto75666

        Little Ceasars really missed a marketing opportunity with that one. They already have a product called Crazy Bread.

      • artem1s

        they are right up there with the wingnuts who believe Sandyhook is a hoax. how do you even get there?

        • Clyde Barrow

          Cognitive dissonance, for starters.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “I want to go to there.”
    — Liz Lemon

  • Lizzietish81

    I’m just gonna cry and rock…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXUlhT3-r0c

    • Idiokraticdrumpfenjugend

      I’m not asking my doctor, I’m telling him. This stuff is right for me.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Red Bellied Black Shake

      Has anyone actually ever heard this Rex Snake 🐍 say anything ever? I don’t think the guy has a larynx.

  • Bill D. Burger
    • Inner Venom

      “Ugh. If these icky poors would just pull themselves up by the bootstraps then maybe they could be a success like me. The government has never needed to give me a hand! I started with a small loan of a million dollars and worked my way up! Now where is that blasted servants bell?”

      • Bill D. Burger

        Trump was such a business genius, he turned an inherited large fortune into a small fortune.

        • magyar of infinite power

          And, even that, only with the help of bankruptcy

          • LucindathePook

            Well, he does run an efficient money-laundering business.

    • Sardonicuss

      I want to dance!

  • janecita

    Hillary didn’t lose on election day, we did! God, we are so fucked!

  • Bill D. Burger

    And next Trump/Ryan will roll out their replacement for Planned Parenthood and decent healtcare for women.

    http://i.imgur.com/CIh1AlZ.jpg

    • NastyBossetti

      :-(

  • FYI, as we are actual bleeding heart liberals who don’t want people, even stinky Trump voters, to die for lack of healthcare, we think that fucking sucks.

    Eh. Maybe my heart is scabbing over, but I’m not feeling any sympathy for people who are going to shoot the life preserver they’ve grabbed on to because the guy who threw it to them was black.

    In fact, my general sense is, “Yeah, that sucks for you. Go fuck yourself.”

    • Anna Elizabeth

      Yeah. My compassion for haters, cowards, and fools is at an all-time low right now.

      • Lord Jim

        If my life had gone like yours, I probably wouldn’t be as positive as you are. When I consider how to react to people who voted against their own self-interest for the sake of bigotry, I find I feel much the same way as you. But something I read comes back to me:

        “It’s a pity Bilbo didn’t kill him when he had the chance.”
        “Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo’s hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.”

        • Anna Elizabeth

          An excellent choice of quotes, Jim. :)

          Yes, that’s the thing about having self-respect: it demands you improve yourself, try harder, and work to mitigate your character flaws.

          • Lord Jim

            Yeah, having a conscience sux balls. Only the alternative is worse.

          • Anna Elizabeth

            This is true. :)

            It gets difficult, when your nation is filled with and “led” by haters and scum. But I have to be a better human being than the father and mother that abused me. It would be shameful if I learned nothing from all my experiences.

          • Lord Jim

            Did you let in those onion ninjas? Dammit, I’ve told you to watch out for that! :P

          • Anna Elizabeth

            XD Sowwy.

            I find crying at least every 10 days is good for my mental health. :)

        • Jim Johnson

          Even the Shire has death panels?

        • Truly Madly Derply

          RIGHT NOW I AM MAKING OUT SO HARD WITH YOU IN MY MIND

    • GoutMachine

      I’m with you. The same way I feel when I see people texting and driving. Hope you run into a tree. No one else, though, because I don’t want your shit decision to harm others. Just yourself.

    • Red Bird Ω

      I’m with you. They brought it on themselves. It’s like that one episode of The Jeffersons where the white racist man doesn’t want a blood transfusion because it came from George. And then the maid goes off and has her own sitcom. It was a teachable moment.

  • dxyseilc of the rstesinace

    My god, it’s horrifying to consider how close we were to a Hillary presidency. Can you imagine? You just know she’d fill up her cabinet with people from Goldman Sachs, and enact policies designed to enrich the already wealthy at the expense of the lower classes, and she’d probably even let her VP get away with using a private email server. And what with her connections with shady foreign governments, I’m sure we’d be hearing all about how she’s been compromised by her secret business deals with a hostile foreign power.

    Thank God we’re not dealing with any of that bullshit.

    • Darrell Imaginarian

      And she would definitely send the Marines into places like Yemen and Syria, setting us up for years of bloody counterinsurgency. Thank God we were spared that.

      • Liberoid Ron

        Never mind how anti-science she is, and how she’d gut the EPA and have decades of climatological data erased, with who knows what effect on the planet. We really dodged a bullet there.

    • DainBramage

      Sadly, I know that there would be a constant barrage of made up “scandals” and congressional investigations into ordinary events.

      • Bebecca

        which would be considerably less than the actual scandals of the current administration. He even had one scandal (Flynn) before his inauguration which was more than Obama had in 8 years.

    • boredcatlady

      Don’t forget Clinton Fatigue. As the media predicted, everything about her presidency would make us cringe and groan and gross look at her ankles, ugh watching a woman age like that on teevee

  • BadKitty904
  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Wonder what Jill Stein is up to these daze?

    There were greens and aquas everywhere — on tablecloths, signs, T-shirts, a few heads of hair — but no shades of gray at the Green Party state convention in Bakersfield on Saturday.

    This was a fiery call to action, from none other than Jill Stein, the party’s recent presidential candidate, to about 100 revved-up members gathered at the Central Labor Council in northeast Bakersfield. Most traveled to the city from Green Party strongholds throughout California to bolster the Kern County chapter, one of the newest in the state.

    Speakers and audience members denounced both major political parties and their most recognizable champions — President Trump and Hillary Clinton — “corporate” media, Wall Street, “anti-third-party” bias, as well as MSNBC host Rachel Maddow and Trump operative Kellyanne Conway, both for criticizing Stein.

    But the chaos of Trump’s America, Stein said, has energized progressives and fueled Green Party growth.

    “We’ve tapped into a third force, something repressed, suppressed and oppressed that just exploded,” said Stein, one of five participants on a panel titled “Election Debriefing: Presidential Campaign.”

    Stein likened the moment to “a cosmic birthing process that was taking place. I’m proud we made that happen and found each other.”

    California, I love you guys. BUT, get a grip, man. NO ONE who would ever utter “cosmic birthing process” in public will ever get elected to anything other than county commish. That’s not how you do grassroots. It’s how you do grass.

    http://www.bakersfield.com/news/a-cosmic-birthing-stein-addresses-greens-kern-faithful/article_b20d23f6-3750-52b9-8979-7160bc09aa3d.html

    • Liberoid Ron

      It’s like the process that turned Jerry Brown into an effective, sensible governor left a moonbat vacuum that Jill rushed to fill.

      • artem1s

        I loved Jerry even when he was a moonbat. at least he had the 70s as an excuse for it. every progressive was a little bit moonbat in the 70s. how could you resist defeating Nixon by levitating the Pentagon? Now we know better. ya gotta kill those MF dead with a stake thru the heart and garlic votes.

    • Pierre_de_Fermat

      That cosmic birthing process, not to mention the third force will be needed when Trumpcare is enacted.

    • mailman27

      Jill Stein is the rankest sort of opportunist.

  • Blanche Beecham

    I wonder if these supporters (Ryan, Price) would like this plan if they had to live it. No more I’mma member of congress healthcare for you!

    • Sardonicuss

      Every time one of these jackasses is being interviewed on TV, the first question should be: how much are you paying for your health insurance right now!

      • Darrell Imaginarian

        Some. They get middle of the road health insurance policies like those offered by large private sector employers. They have deductibles, co pays, in network physicians, etc.

      • OrdinaryJoe

        Would you give up your gubbermint entitlement and put your fambilly into this plan?

    • Courser_Resistance

      Well, they’re all zillionaires even with out the power gig. No matter how much healthcare costs, they’re covered. Also too, they live perfect, healthy lives so they don’t *need* any fucking insurance. They’re ‘self-insured’. Bully for them, particularly since all their $$ are blood money of one form or another.

    • Jim Johnson

      I wonder if heartlessness is covered under their Cadillac plans. Lot of that going around.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • AndyC316

    WHY would you do this??! Now, in addition to being snowed in, I get to be sobbing hysterically. FU, EVAN!!!!

  • Darkest Timeline Zach Morris

    I’ll never get how the religious right supports tax cuts for the rich and disenfranchising the poor. I’m a fucking atheist and I see how insane that is. Jebus would be so mad if he were, um, real.

    • efoveks

      I bet you believe the world is billions of years old, too. (*Efoveks rolls her eyes*) Damn heathens!

      • Darkest Timeline Zach Morris

        Science has a liberal satan slant!

    • OrdinaryJoe

      Jeebuzz saves…those that can take care of themselves.

      • Darkest Timeline Zach Morris

        I think some moneylenders would get the shit kicked out of their tables today if there was a Jebus. Can you imagine him having a conversation with Paul Ryan? Or Joel Osteen? Or any of the garbage bottomfeeders that have gotten rich perverting the message of “Just be fucking nice to each other, for My sake”?
        That’s it. That’s the whole New Testament. Be fucking nice. I’m here to absorb your sin, be good from now on. Jesus never said anything about abortion, or homosexuality, or any of the words that people have put in his mouth. He just hung out with prostitutes and lepers.

        Again, I’m an atheist, and I get this. People that claim to have read the bible don’t.

        I actually follow Superman. Stand up for those weaker than you, and try to do the right thing for as many people as possible.

        • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

          I’m a Jewish, so we’re just too busy making money and controlling everything.

          • Darkest Timeline Zach Morris

            In all seriousness, how do you deal with these Nazi fucks? I’m a middle-class white guy from the Midwest and it takes everything in my power not to human torch half of my Facebook “friends” EVERY FUCKING DAY. I had a customer start some white supremacist shit with me the other day, assuming that because I’m a white guy, I’d agree with him. I fired him as a customer and threw him out of my office. I think racism, white supremacy and confederate flags are failed IQ tests that they’re waving proudly. Can’t be associated with it.

          • Jim Johnson

            Good for you Darkest! Racism is truly an IQ and and EQ test in one. It’s a story they tell themselves to avoid spending any time with logic, reason or rationality. Or, simple compassion and empathy for Crissakes.

          • Darkest Timeline Zach Morris

            It cost my company about 12 grand, but sleeping at night is worth at least $12,001.

          • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

            Well, the short answer is, “We’ve seen worse.” I’ll come back when I have more time and give you a longer answer…..

        • Red Bellied Black Shake

          You have it there morris, that was his message, be kind to the poor and try to be good, how they have twisted his message is incredible. He would be super-pissed 😡

        • HarpyLibtart

          If they actually read the WHOLE Bible, they’d be atheists…
          That’s how it happened to me, anyway.
          (Sunday School thought they were slick with that 365 Days of the Word Challenge nonsense)

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      When Jesus becomes your personal saviour, you turn into an asshole.

      • Jim Johnson

        It seems like a double cross to bear.

    • You are confusing actual Christianity, which is a thing, with the prosperity bible of Christianists, which is also, unfortunately, a thing.
      If Jesus did come back, these fucking fools would shoot and or deport him

      • Darkest Timeline Zach Morris

        My main problem is with Evangelicals and the prosperity folk. They’re the cynical ones that hold their noses and vote for scumbags to try to keep the right to bully other people.

        • Bebecca

          Yes because like them, Jesus hates gays and abortions.

          • Darkest Timeline Zach Morris

            Jebus was so full of hate. I remember that part of the wingnut bibble.

        • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

          Oh, they aren’t holding their noses. They love the scumbags. They think just like they do.

      • Courser_Resistance

        They’re all fucking millionaires… with a little ‘cash flow’ problem.

  • Bill Slider

    Hillary Clinton, like Donald Trump, remains in campaign mode. It’s been 4 months and a few days since ballots were cast and counted. Putin won. The rest is history.

    • Mpeg

      All hail rootin’ tootin’, Vladimir Putin!~

      • Occupied Territory of Kavefish

        Da Da Da Putin
        Spoiler of the Russian scene
        That oligarch-ski really was gone
        Da Da Da putin
        Russia’s shortest aubergine
        It was a shame how he carried on
        ♫ ♫

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Almost 12 huors before I can get my drink on. Fuck.

    • mardam422

      Amateur.

    • Toomush_Inferesistance

      Are you using the Universal Daylight Savings Time program – the one where you get to decide which time zone you’re in at any particular moment?…

    • Bitter Scribe

      Oh boo hoo. I can’t drink until Friday because I have a job interview.

    • I don’t know. Day drinking has its comforts.

    • Choosymom

      There’s a certain time for drinking??

  • Sophia

    Trump voters. Sheesh!
    Trump’s Counties Lose Out to Clinton’s in GOP Health Tax Cuts

    “It pisses me off, but my wife pisses me off, too, and we’re still married,” said Dan Peuschold, 62, as he shared a $13 pitcher of beer with friends Saturday afternoon at the Hiawatha Bar & Grill in the Wisconsin village of Sturtevant.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-14/trump-s-counties-lose-out-to-clinton-s-in-gop-health-tax-cuts

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “Yes, I am an utter moran” Peushold continued.

      • Truthiness2U

        ‘And/or racist, bigoted, xenophobic, misogynist, and that’s what’s really drove my voting for shit-gibbon, and will keep me supporting him. Even though I’ll never admit it.’

        • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

          “I mean, look how shitty I am about my wife. I just hates them womenz! Can you imagine? Those cunts wanted one of THEM to be Presnit, like they could even drive to the White House, I mean, have you seen the way they drive, amirite? Can you imagine? Nag nag nag, ‘I’m PRESIDENT, so TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE,’ forget it!”

    • Pisto75666

      “Peuschold, who owns a cabinet-making shop and purchases insurance for his 15 employees, said he doesn’t earn enough to qualify for either proposed tax cut. The wealthy could afford to keep paying the levies, he said.

      “I don’t like the cut because it’s pocket change for them,” he said. “Us guys that work all the time don’t have the deep pockets. It’s us people who are in the middle class who are the backbone of this country.”

      And yet you continue to fuck yourselves over through your voting choices! Isn’t that AMAZING?

      • Courser_Resistance

        But, but, but… ‘bortions, messicans ‘n mooslims…

        • JustDon’tSayDieInJail

          And Goldman sacks! Whatever that means – I guess the guy sacked someone…

          • Pisto75666

            They make grocery bags.

        • Choosymom

          Oh my!

    • Bub the Hoohah! loving Zombie

      “If only Trump would do the things we all wish he’d do, instead of the things those damn libruls told us he’d do, everything would be fine!” said Trump supporter I. M. Nottbrite.

      • Pisto75666

        “Let’s just worry about what he’s doing and not about what he MIGHT do!”

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      He sounds nice

  • alpacapunchbowl

    I was talking to a friend-of-a-friend visitor from Switzerland last week. She was unfamiliar with the EC and had no idea that Trumpsterfire lost the popular vote (BIGLY) and was essentially elected on a technicality. After she picked her jaw off the floor, I think she was at least somewhat relieved that the majority of Americans are perhaps woefully apathetic when it comes to voting, but not uneducated raging bigots.

    • artem1s

      oh, don’t worry, the woefully apathetic are probably mostly uneducated raging bigots too. they just can’t be bothered to go to any trouble to find out what the best choice was for them. so they opted to sit at home and not risk making their uneducated raging bigoted neighbors and family members mad at them. now they are cringing in corners, too embarrassed to admit they fucked up. They are an endless wellspring of ‘”yea but, I didn’t have good enough candidates to choose from; emails, Obamaphones; money in politics” bullshit. Still…still trying to deflect their shame by blaming Obama and Hillary.

      Of course they will also blame Hillary and Obama for the way they are treated by their uneducated bigoted neighbors when they find out they didn’t support Heir Twittler either.

  • OrdinaryJoe

    Ryan/Trump. A better plan to take care of the surplus population.

  • eyelashviper
  • kindness

    Is this where I thank Jill Stein for the leadership we are now blessed with?

  • Moebym the Persistent Returner

    Don’t. Even. Go. There.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    It’s a nice dream, but the republicans would pass zero of Hillary’s agenda. They are hateful, spiteful pricks.

    • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

      No, no, in this uncorrupt election, our nice Democratic candidates for Senate would have won too (no one is looking into it but I still think it was weird that ALL of them lost despite being ahead in the polls).

  • nightmoth

    Never forget: Hillary won by 3 million votes! I wish that tinfoil hat creep Sean Spicer were correct about his “Deep State” scifi crap and we DID have a government in exile, headed by Hillary, Obama, and Handsome Joe, and backed by the military. I’d sleep easier at night, instead of having unsettling dreams where I’m hiding from Nazis.

  • Jgb979

    Considering the plan is basically “make insurance better” versus “give rich guys a massive tax break while killing planned parenthood, Medicaid, and affordable health insurance”,

    I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter what she said with the crowd that voted against her, given her dirty dirty emails.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    Man i am glad Hillary won too. Everythings okay and not ran by garbage humans. Now if you excuse me, me and my catgirl girlfriend are going to ride in a airship. We are going to new york to get married because interspecies marriage is legal. Thanks Supreme Court which has 9 justices

    • nightmoth

      May I please join your parallel universe?

      • Alexander Stallwitz

        Absoultely, everyone here is welcome here.

        • CatCafe #ShePurrsisted

          If cats can talk in your universe, I’d like to come too.

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    I know a wingnut who planning on retirng this year at age 60. I wonder what he’s going to do now.

  • chascates

    Hillary would have made my life great again. Trump will make it far worse. Anyone who thinks the Dems and the GOP are the same is insane.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Same here. My path forward was pretty bright, but it would take time. Time that I assumed would be eased by Medicaid and Unemployment if things fell short. And a booming healthcare and local community gave me confidence I wouldn’t need help for long.

      Now? Everything after August is a black hole for me. I’ve basically got *one* shot and if I miss it… it doesn’t look good.

  • Franklin Mint

    Hillary is AMAZING. Surely by now she’d be cracking down on her benefactors from Goldman Sachs and Google and Pfizer and asking them to pay the same effective tax rates the rest of us pay? AH HA HA!

    Do ANY politicians have the guts to help their voters instead of their corporate donors?

    taxoffshoreprofitsnow.com

    • ZangoCrudmonger

      She’d be doing the hard work of wrestling the supreme court nomination from incalcitran R’s, filling a competent cabinet, yadda yadda. Are you happy with Trump? Seems to be what you are implying.

    • Bitter Scribe

      Oh ah ha ha yourself you purity pony nitwit. It’s jackasses like you who are directly responsible for the trouble we’re now in.

    • Michael R

      Is it fun imagining that you are right and being a douche ?
      AH HA HA!

    • HazooToo

      Oh, fuck you, Minty. Democratic Senators are the ONLY FUCKING ONES who are looking out for the poor and middle class right now, so take your purity pony bullshit and shove it up your ass!

    • doktorzoom

      oh, look. A spammer. Bye.

  • Bitter Scribe

    This is making my want to cry. We could have had one of the smartest, best qualified presidents ever, making policy that would help ordinary people, but she was rejected in favor of a “colorful” reality-show clown who made promises that he will never be able to fulfill and, in most cases, won’t even try to.

    • HazooToo

      A couple days after the election, I came home from a cigarette run, and had a fucking MELTDOWN in my car in the garage. I screamed, howled, sobbed and raged out of frustration, grief and guilt. It was the most cathartic thing I’ve felt in a long time. Then I got some weed from a neighbor and finally was able to smile again. I’m predicting that same cycle will happen at least two more times, before the yam is impeached.

      • Jim Johnson

        Sorry to say this, but Sessions is more likely to start enforcing DEA Schedule 1 under Federal law. Personally, I think he should resign for perjury.

        • HazooToo

          Agreed. And I’m not in a pot-legal state, anyway.

      • Chayne

        Rock on Hazoo, only 3.8 years to go.

        • HazooToo

          Not if we can do anything about it!

    • empf

      Totally agree

    • And will take down massive parts of the american project in the process.

    • Choosymom

      I can’t look at Trump in the Oval Office or at a lectern (something I assiduously try to avoid anyway) without having a heartbreaking vision of Clinton there instead. It just kills me: the disgust with the Twitler versus what could have been, what *should* have been.

      • tkingt

        What really bugs me is that flag in his lapel. As a Vietnam vet I would like to rip that flag from his coat. Each time I see his fat face I change the channel. “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel”.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Sec. Clinton is brilliant. Even so, the challenges she would face would be daunting. We might hope for success. Trump is a fat leech, who, for no apparent reason, has been allowed to attach himself to the national treasury and suck. He brought his crony leeches to also suck. We might hope to survive.

  • empf

    I’m sad all over again. 😕

  • Panika MCD

    can this be a regular feature?

  • Zyxomma

    This just made me sad. I think I’ll go out for a walk before it stops snowing.

  • Tj McGee Wright

    Sucks especially for the poors that didn’t jump on the bandwagon of Team Trump getting fucked anyway. Much more bleeding heart in that direction.

    • Elizabeth Hillcrest

      Agreed.

  • Persistent Demme

    I love you, Evan, but I can’t even think about this.
    I just can’t.
    (sobs uncontrollably)

  • ~ ☆ míkhαílα ☆ ~ 【忠実反抗】

    😢 Thanks a whole freaking lot, Evan! This just made me relive the election night all over again!

    • ibwilliamsi

      That was a bad trip…

      • Jim Johnson

        I’m still having flashbacks and the lucid dreams won’t stop.

  • boredcatlady

    As much as we all wanted her to go on an awesome tour of all fifty states, she kept saying she had work to do, and she just finished a very long and hard campaign, thank you very much, why go on a victory tour.

    Also, since there are zero lizard people in her cabinet, she’s able to get a good night’s sleep in the residence (“ALL night???!”-that one bitchy congresscritter) and only watches Fox and Friends to laugh.

  • winzaloft

    Lifting the premise of Hillarybeattrump.org without attribution is not nice.
    A guy doing it to the female architect of this alternate State so many of us dwell in is super NOT cool. Apologies expected.

    • HarpyLibtart

      O-kayyy….since you’re clearly new here, you probably don’t realise that Wonkette has been the home of liberal fantasists since before those glorious days when we had a black president..
      It’s a bit presumptuous to roll in here and make vague imputations of sexism while demanding apologies on behalf a website that’s been in existence less than six months, purely because you’ve decided it has a patent on all President Hillary-related stories.

      • winzaloft

        No Doll, Wonkette fan and communicator with Ms J back in the day. Rolled in looong before you. My imputation is not vague but very direct, Hillarybeatrump wrote the book on this one. You may have an opinion (though it will not deflect from my longstanding love of Wonkette) but please dont try to cheat another Feminist of her Due.

        • HarpyLibtart

          A) I’m not going to get into a “firsts” pissing contest with some random and
          B) I’m not your “doll” and you can take that condescending faux-feminism and shove it, along with your concern-trolling nonsense.

          • winzaloft

            You heard me.

    • phoenix00

      You use the word “LIBELZ!!!!!11”

  • Sedagive ’em Hell

    Sometimes I wake up gasping for breath in the middle of the night. I’m haunted by this recurrent nightmare that Trump actually won, and his aggressively unhinged administration gutted the social safety net, destroyed the environment, alienated global allies, deregulated everything, destroyed healthcare and normalized white nationalism.

    Then I remember that America came to its senses and that the sanest, most experienced and qualified person won. I remember wearing my white outfit to her inauguration in DC, and being so proud that the first female president was holding her own against a spiteful, racist, misogynist minority who (thankfully) did not manage to take congress either.

    Thank goodness that America, the republic of reason, still commands the respect of the world. Sure, Hillary’s administration got off to a rocky start, and I already disagree with a few of her environmental decisions, but she’s surrounded herself with good, qualified people, and I think we’re headed in the right direction.

    Oh, wait…

    • theblackdog

      BRB, ugly crying forever that this is not our America right now

    • Chayne

      Sedagive, you make me wanna cry, and I don’t even live in America 😥

  • Michael Loraine

    Please don’t torment us with “wouldn’t it be nice if Hillary were president” fantasies. Yes it would have been a much better outcome. But that didn’t happen, and so we have to figure out how to arrange a fair election in 2018 despite KGB/FSB control of our vote counting infrastructure. We have to win those elections, and that can only happen if we can keep Trump and Putin from cheating us all again.

    • JD Mulvey

      Our “vote counting infrastructure” is mostly fine. It’s our “voters who are dumb as dirt” that’s a problem.

      • phoenix00

        All Of The Above, unfortunately.

        Every major calamity is the result of a string of events, each on their own inconsequential, but causes a disaster once put together.

  • Reason #352 why I love Wonkette. (Reason #1 of course is cutesy pics of Donna Rose.)

    But imagine: keeping people informed, instead of de-contextualized half-truths (with fervent imaginations filling in the gaps.)

    It’s juxt nice to hear actual politic analysis based on shit that’s real instead of the See n Say approach (“The Faux-gressive goes: Whine!”)

  • Manhattan123

    Has anyone bumped in to Susan Sarandon lately? I hope you told her fuckyouverymuch from the rest of us.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Suzy surfaced long enough to announce that none of this was her fault.

      • Pisto75666

        She should change her party affiliation to Reublican. She’d fit right in.

    • persistently_resistant_gayby

      I have a dungbomb I’d like to throw (with smelly votes!)

  • persistently_resistant_gayby

    WHY DO YOU MAKE ME WISTFUL WONKETTE WHY WHY WHY *bursts into tears holding a photograph of Hillary*

  • SharonD-D

    Why in the HELL didn’t you put this article out during the Primaries & General. I and some others knew and read of all her plans, but most did not. None of the popular places like Wonkette was talking about them. None would do a comparison of hers and all other Candidates. Would have been nice. Oh well, maybe next time, if we survive this time. But we still cool.

    • phoenix00

      That should’ve been the MSM’s job, but there were e-mails, so there.

  • phoenix00

    Maybe they should get informed next time they decide to exercise their right to vote.

    Pluralistic democracies have been around for HOW LONG NOW? And HOW MANY OF US still haven’t figured this out?

    /SOBSOBSOBSOBSOBSOB
    (yes there are two meanings to the above….)

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