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Body camera video released this week shows a Tucson police officer helping to keep the community safe from dangerous immigration-rights protesters by giving an 86-year-old woman a good hard shove, knocking her to the street where she hits her head. The miscreant, estimated to stand about 4 feet, 5 inches and to weigh less than 100 pounds, was part of a crowd of protesters who had spilled into the street near Tucson’s Federal Building during a February 16 “Day Without Immigrants” rally, and officers were trying to herd the crowd out of traffic and back onto the sidewalk. What part of “law and order” doesn’t this old lady understand, huh? After catching the elderly woman in a flagrant act of shaking a finger at cops and shoving her to the pavement, the officer then further protected the public from a 65-year-old woman who had reached down to help the older woman, pepper-spraying her in the face to show her who’s boss.

Not everyone in the crowd was well-behaved, either; the Washington Post notes the altercation resulted in four arrests and minor injuries to three police officers. Neither of the women shoved by the cop were among those arrested.

A Tucson Police spokesperson, Sgt. Pete Dugan, told KOLD-TV that while police were trying to get part of the crowd back to sidewalks, an officer was hit in the back, and when he tried to arrest the person who struck him, the crowd “started moving in on the officers,” prompting the officer to use pepper spray on the protesters. Check that video again — we certainly see a tiny shouting woman scolding with felonious intent, and then the shove, followed by the cop reaching for his pepper spray and using it on a grey-haired woman who’s leaning down to help the fallen woman. But it’s a hell of a stretch to call any of that “moving in on the officers.”

Tucson Police Chief Chris Magnus said the incident is being investigated, but also believes TPD cops behaved appropriately; when the crowd began to spill from the sidewalks onto the streets, he writes in a statement on Facebook, police attempted to move them back to the sidewalk:

Most of the crowd complied, but a very specific subgroup elected to remain in the road and challenge the directions they were given by the officers.

Magnus argues the protesters in the street had created “an extremely dangerous situation on a busy road” and that the crowd was out of control:

One of the officers working to get a protester back to the sidewalk was assaulted by that protester. When the officer went to arrest this subject and place him in a patrol car for transport, he and the other officers who were assisting him were quickly surrounded by members of the crowd. Some of the crowd interfered or attempted to interfere with the officers’ lawful arrest process.

According to a witness, the 86-year old woman was interfering with that arrest by blocking the squad car, but the video sure doesn’t look like she poses much of a threat to the big strong cop — he looks like he just lost control and had to take it out on an annoying little old lady who was getting in his face.

Rolande Baker, who received a face full of pepper spray for her effort to help the fallen woman — who wasn’t injured — told the Washington Post she’d crossed the street to join the crowd when she saw police arresting 24-year-old David Leon:

“I saw the police being way more aggressive than I’ve ever seen them be,” she said. She has been participating in peaceful rallies and protests in Tucson since she moved there in 1987, she said, and has never had any problems with local law enforcement. […]

The 86-year-old woman had joined with three other women in locking their arms in front of the police van, blocking it from leaving. After officers unlinked the women’s arms, one pushed her to the ground. Officers then pepper-sprayed Baker in the face.

“Here’s this woman on the ground, and they’re so busy pepper-spraying those who were helping her, they never help her up,” Baker said. “Do we look violent to you?”

Come on, Ms. Baker, everyone looks like a violent threat when a cop’s adrenaline is up. He may have thought the old woman was bulked up like a linebacker.

After hearing complaints from people who attended the rally, the Tucson City Council has called for an investigation of the incident. For her part, Baker is worried that what she sees as increasing aggressiveness from police, coupled with the passage of an Arizona Senate measure to apply anti-racketeering laws to protesters if any property damage occurs, are intended to stifle protests of Trump and Republican policies.

“They’re trying to shut us up is what they’re trying to do, in my opinion,” Baker said. “It’s scary that this is all happening at the same time.”

In one small bright spot, after public backlash against that anti-protesting law, the speaker of Arizona’s House of Representatives announced the lower chamber wouldn’t consider the Senate bill, killing it for this session.

As for TPD officer Shovey McToughGuy, it doesn’t appear he faces any disciplinary action at the moment. Maybe further investigation will result in action, maybe not. For now, the mean streets of Tucson are safe from the depredations of old ladies.

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  • Antonin Dvorak
    • Villago Delenda Est

      The absurdity of it all captured nicely. And Graham Chapman renders the final verdict.

  • Persistent Demme

    More of this to come…
    If T***p’s negotiation strategy was be outrageous for a month, so that his “sincerity” would stick, he has failed.
    We already know how to protest; in the street, and where we are needed, in town halls, and internationally.
    We know our calls to legislators work.
    We are organized, (SF Bay Area this Sunday: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/together-we-can-post-inauguration-do-fair-tickets-31346921486).
    We are coming for you man-baby.
    This is the new normal!

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The scum of the Village have been lining up to blow Donald since the end of the speech last night.

      • Persistent Demme

        Too little, too late.
        #lowbar

      • Persistent Demme

        Too little, too late.
        #lowbar

    • Persistent Demme

      Bring on the Raging Grannies!
      “If my Uterus Was A Gun”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf5qjGDy4eg

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uel1vfAQ52M You can’t trust those little old ladies.

    • TJ Barke

      I knew someone would post that.

  • memzilla Ω

    Also too, aggravated mopery with intent to miscreantate in the first degree!

  • Nounverb911
    • Martini Ambassador

      Yee-haw! Time to get their jackboots on!

      Clearly, this is a great idea and what could possibly happen?

      • Villago Delenda Est

        What could possibly go wrong?

      • SpideySenser

        Well this cannot be a good thing.

  • gingerland62

    When did cops become such pussies? Everything scares them now.

    • Nounverb911
    • Villago Delenda Est

      I’m afraid hiring Iraq and Afghanistan vets with non-diagnosed PTSD hasn’t been working out well.

      • Scrofula

        Counter, just to put this out–a lot of combat vets turn out to be way LESS trigger-happy than average, better at “de-escalation”. Maybe after seeing real warfare, a little old lady seems less of a threat.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          That’s always possible. But there are some who become adrenaline junkies and just can’t let go.

          The issue is really how well these candidate cops are psychologically screened. Not very well, because, well, it costs money that PDs don’t have. They glance at a resume and hire on that basis alone.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Since forever?

      • gingerland62

        I grew up in a very Irish catholic neighborhood in the 70’s. Lots of cop dad’s. Some of these guys were asses, but many of them prided themselves on never drawing a weapon. They surely did unsavory things but knocking down old ladies and shooting unarmed citizens was almost unheard of.

        • MynameisBlarney

          How did they treat minorities?

          • gingerland62

            As I said they were assest, they didn’t like hippies, or minorities, but they weren’t going out of their way to harm them.

    • They’re now trained to see the public as a threat, instead of being trained that their job is to protect the public. It’s asinine.

      • TJ Barke

        Another unintended consequence of the 2nd amendment. Anybody might have a gun, anybody might be a threat.

        • Crank Tango

          I’m convinced all the concealed carry laws are just to give cops an excuse to kill everybody.

    • ariel_gee_398

      So apparently one thing that many cops get taught, either in formal training or in their informal training from more senior officers, is that they need to be 21 feet away from someone to be able to pull their gun and defend themselves if the other person is armed with an edged weapon. I would suspect that this training has made them deeply uncomfortable with interacting with hostile members of the public at closer range, and thus you get this kind of overreaction.
      http://lawofficer.com/exclusive/21footrule/

    • Oblios_Cap

      When they realized they could shoot people all the time and get away with it.

    • Thaumaturgist

      There’s a solution for pussy cops. http://pussynaturalenergy.com/

    • GoutMachine

      When you give them giant hammers … everything looks like a nail.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    RBG is not pleased, will discipline cop.

    Never displease the Notorious RBG.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c2ff9c3b67e965a0c635742092755ee361c3b90639ee64fc44466024d4357d3.jpg

    • There was an article over at – I think it was Politico – about one of the editors doing her workout. The headline was “it damn near killed me.” Do not mess with the the Notorious RBG, she will fuck your shit up!

  • DahBoner

    Tuck son: the 5th poorest city in America. I guess it’s hard to find good cops when your pay is so low?
    https://media3.giphy.com/media/maZgXUkFWgJq0/giphy.gif

  • memzilla Ω

    Imagine if she’d been wearing a hoodie and carrying Skittles!

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Tucson police: Putting the AZ in NAZI.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      I smell a winning protest sign!

  • Azazael

    Lucky it wasn’t my Grams, she’d have got back up and pepper sprayed his ass back, all the while cursing up a storm.

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    What’s the phrase they say before war crimes start to happen? Something about the gloves coming off

  • MynameisBlarney
    • And it will be paid for by lowering taxes, and everyone will get their own pony…

      • MynameisBlarney

        It will be tremendous, believe me!

      • TJ Barke

        And jetpack.

        • TJ Barke

          And a jetpony.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I’m avoiding the MSM because I don’t want to listen to them fellate Lord Dampnut for reading a 1 hour speech off a TelePrompTer. Remember when wingnuts made fun of Obama for using a TelePrompTer?

      • PubOption

        Thirty minute speech with thirty minutes of applause.

    • clubseal

      It’s always great to say how wonderful things will be, but never offer a detailed plan of how to get there.
      Why does it feel like we have Willy Loman for president?

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Bernie did the same thing. Which is why I wound up voting for Hillary in the primary.

    • NastyBossetti

      Some industries are going to die and should not come roaring back to life. That’s what happens as time trudges on. Growth and change are painful, and we should find ways to help people who are affected negatively, but bringing dying industries “roaring back to life” is not the way.

  • shivaskeeper

    I have done crowd control in actual war zones. It is tense, and all kinds of scary, but I have never even thought to push an old woman around. And I never got more than a few hours instruction on how to do it.

  • Crystalclear12

    She doesn’t look black but it’s hard to tell when they get old. Probably hopped up on Geritol.

  • exinkwretch

    Pepper spray to the face? What a pussy. What’s your 9mm for, pardner? A dead granny is a silent granny!

    • Oblios_Cap

      Three people – 2 grannies and a cop – can keep a secret if two of them are dead, amirite?

    • Historicat

      Too lazy to whip out the nightstick and giver her an old-fashioned beatdown?

  • I can’t wait for my first protest arrest. Might be difficult as at the Toronto Women’s March, the only significant police presence was doing two things: closing intersections for safety and guarding the American Consulate

    • Scrofula

      Getting arrested isn’t fun or exciting. OK, maybe by mounties. They probably even have coffee and donuts in the clink.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      I wonder if 52 Division has changed since The Pukka Orchestra recorded this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QfdHPoU300

    • Ω cynmac will never surrender

      In Atlanta ours were drinking Cokes and getting high 5’s from the protesters. Only serious police presence were two snipers on the top of the state capitol building. We all gave them waves.

  • Martini Ambassador

    When will the granny community speak out against granny thuggery and granny-on-granny violence?
    https://media.giphy.com/media/wbcv5ZhbZoREc/giphy.gif

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Only a good granny with knitting needles can protect you from a bad granny with knitting needles.

  • MynameisBlarney
    • Oh fuck no. The last thing we need is another “celebrity” in the white house, even if this one is sane and generally left wing.

      She’d have no more understanding of the nuances of policy than the current moran does. Please, please, find a competent and charismatic person to run.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Well…I bet she would most likely surround herself with highly competent people that aren’t treasonous fascists.

        • Vincent Ricola

          She might use her magic powers to hide gift baskets filled with delightful gourmet foods and bath lotions under our living room chairs, too. I’m changing my mind now.

          • MynameisBlarney

            It would be just like christmas every day!

        • Liberal Fascist Ron

          *coughcough*Dr. Oz*coughcough*

          • MynameisBlarney

            LOL

            Wasn’t Dr. Phil one of hers too?

          • Liberal Fascist Ron

            He was indeed. I’d forgotten about that.

          • MynameisBlarney

            From what I’ve read about him, he’s not all that nice of a person.

          • Ω cynmac will never surrender

            And Racheal Ray, also too.

      • We did! It’s working OK so far

      • Vincent Ricola

        I’m with you. More experience, less dazzle.

        And something something come to your job and knock the dicks out of your mouth something something.

    • Martini Ambassador

      We can finally have those taco trucks on every corner? https://media.giphy.com/media/WNs0uptipSG40/giphy.gif

    • SpideySenser

      Unlike 45*, she’s in possession of a triple digit IQ. But does this mean we’ll be mandated to read everything on her book club list?

  • Shoto
    • Wild Cat

      “In Dublin’s fair city
      The girls are so pretty . . . “

      • Thaumaturgist

        I get it. You had an Irish grandmother too.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    Can’t be to careful when it comes to out of control grannies.

  • Wait! Hell’s Grannies is real?

  • Wild Cat

    These are the same motherfuckers who said returning Elian Gonzales to his father in Cuba were “jackbooted thugs.”
    And all the silly silly Libertarian scum will remain silent save for a Randy Balko or two.

    • Shoto

      “Libertarian” The sugar-coated description of someone who’s nothing more than a garden-variety selfish prick.

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        Or a conservative who wants to smoke pot.

  • Antonin Dvorak

    OT: I don’t know if this was reported here already, but Ivanka tweet extolling religious tolerance goes… not so well.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ivanka-trump-religious-tolerance-tweet_us_58ac0cede4b0a855d1d949a2

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Most people asked if she’d pass the message on to her father, President Donald Trump.

      https://images.hellogiggles.com/uploads/2016/02/25020823/Andy-Dwyer-Saying-Great-Idea.gif

    • Groundloop

      I’m absolutely delighted that the writer of that HuffPo story is named Lee Moran.

      • Msgr_MΩment

        French for A Moran?

    • Thaumaturgist

      Say what you want. At least Trump didn’t condemn fire bombing mosques.

      • Antonin Dvorak

        It is easier to manage expectations with consistent terribleness than inconsistent, I suppose.

    • Red Bird Ω

      Nice!

  • wait! what?

    Feud: Better and Joan looks fierce.

    • Persistent Demme

      But it has Susan Stein Sarandon in it!
      Dammit!

      • wait! what?

        …Janet…

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Tucson Police Chief Chris Magnus said the incident is being investigated, but also believes TPD cops behaved appropriately

    “We’ll look into it, but there’s nothing to see here.” Why does that sound so familiar?

  • Oblios_Cap

    Those little old ladies can be mean, I tells ya. She’s lucky he didn’t get a’feared for his life and Zimmerman her.

    • Longstreet63

      She probably threatened to use…sarcasm!

      • Oblios_Cap

        *GASP!*

  • wait! what?
    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      Maybe he was watching this before he left for work.
      Better keep him away from Keep Left signs.

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    He could have literally picked her up and moved her off to one side. Keep pepper spraying middle class white grannies and see how that works out.
    Cops have gotten away with this type of behavior because nobody cares if you do that shit to poor brown people.
    Sad America works that way.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Cops have been getting away with it because there have been no records of their actions, and when they’re in court they are always assumed to be testifying truthfully.

      The advent of the phone camera has shattered that illusion, which is why they go for the phone cameras.

      • Brendan_M

        Eric Garner being strangled to death by cops was recorded. Tamir Rice. John Crawford. Walter Scott was even taped being shot in the back. I could keep listing names.

        The exposure of these abuses and murders has increased exponentially since Rodney King, but accountability has not. Even with video evidence, if the perpetrators are cops and the victims people of color, there is no justice. But at least we have the opportunity to see the injustice and protest it.

  • George

    It’s all a little bit better with the original Wagner playing under it.

  • Vincent Ricola

    Well now I’m fucking enraged.

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      Just now? Most of us have spent the last 6 months (or more) completely enraged. Welcome to the party.

      • Vincent Ricola

        I meant for the first time today.

        • MeerkatsRMammals

          Oh…ok. That makes sense ;)

  • Anna Rompage

    You never know when an 86 yr old lady might be carrying a nuke that was smuggled into the country in a bail of pot, especially seeing that they’re down near the border…

    • Longstreet63

      She had calves like canteloupes!

  • Nockular cavity

    Steroids are a hell of a drug.

    • Bad Tom

      Roid Rage. It’s a thing.
      Unfortunately.

  • Anna Rompage

    I’d hate to see what this cop does to his wife, or kids, if they ever act out of line…

  • Longstreet63

    I can only hope the officer remembered to shout “Stop Resisting” at the old lady as he beat her down. Otherwise it might not be legal.

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    Without votes.

    You know, because they’re gerrymandering their effectiveness away (and in many cases outright denying them to POC). That’s all I meant.

  • Both of my late grandmothers would have kicked the cop in the nuts had he behaved that way in front of them.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      My Mom told me that those old garment workers union ladies were vicious with a hat pin. Especially when a cop on a police horse tried to run them off.

  • Creepoman

    Excerpt from official police report: “After assisting the frail octogenarian to a comfortable supine position, Officer Friendly offered a generous serving of a spicy condiment to a bystander.”

    • GoutMachine

      It’s the same ingredient in peppers, people! What’s the problem? Don’t you like spicy food?

  • Nounverb911

    OT
    Sarah palin loses job she never had. Billionaire coal magnate’s wife gets Canadian Ambassador.

    https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/836981775192768512

    • Crank Tango

      Fuckin magnates, how do they work?

      • Scrofula

        They don’t have to?

      • PubOption

        I’m not sure, but they seem to stick together.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      Where’s Canada?
      – Kelly Craft

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      This must be why he was so supportive of coal miners. Yet another out of touch billionaire gifted a job because they donated so bigly. I guess Sarah couldn’t cough up enough Benjamins to secure her gig?

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Sarah was out of the running when Trump’s people found out the ambassador has to be fluent in English.

    • Shoto

      To be fair, Kelly Knight Craft’s company only mines the very cleanest of clean coal.

  • Anna Rompage

    After watching the video, I think that cop might have been none other than Tucker Carlson in a dark wig…

  • arglebargle
    • Undocumented Skwerl!

      How did you find that photo of me?

      • Lex Luthor

        You have a lovely striped tail.

  • Groundloop

    Officer McToughGuy needs to get suspended without pay, right quick.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Officer McToughguy needs to be asking people if they want fries with that.

  • As for TPD officer Shovey McToughGuy, it doesn’t appear he faces any disciplinary action at the moment.

    Yeah. I’m sure he was really afraid and dreading that 4-6 weeks of paid leave before his ultimate acquittal by his friends on the force.

  • timpundit

    Videos like this make it really really hard for me to accept #Bluelivesmatter

    • Msgr_MΩment

      This just proves the power of #blueprivilege.
      #spellingdon’tmatter

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      I’ve been seeing articles lately about how Blue Lives Matter has been completely corrupted by white supremacists. I had a sneaking suspicion that the Blue Lives/All Lives folks were really hardcore racists. Apparently I was right. We’re all fucked.

  • Sandy Beaches

    That cop’s shirt is tighter than any worn by Ponch. That tells me all I need to know about him: he’s an asshole.

    • TJ Barke

      I bet he won’t shut up about crossfit.

  • What, no barrel roll? SAD! I like cops who barrel roll and kneel on teenagers!

  • Ricky Gay

    What part of the law don’t you all get? Now excuse me while I go cheat on my taxes.

  • Clyde Barrow

    That’s to be expected when they deputize mall cops carrying over a grudge from high school.

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    “Neither of the women shoved by the cop were among those arrested.”
    Evidence of the more compassionate, community oriented policing being employed.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      They clearly learned their lessons.

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    People in Arizona need to chill the fuck out.

  • Thaumaturgist

    From WaPo’s 202: Trump’s speech reflected the influence of his daughter Ivanka:

    Trump also even plugged an initiative his daughter was closely involved in arranging. “With the help of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau,” he said, “we have formed a council with our neighbors in Canada to help ensure that women entrepreneurs have access to the networks, markets and capital they need to start a business and live out their financial dreams.” (Emphasis added.)

    • Undocumented Skwerl!

      So the speech writers left off the final two words: “in bed”.

      I am such a 12-year old!

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      The difference being that a) we’re already doing that Up Here, and b) Donnie will forget about promising this by tonight.

      • roberteye

        Take his name out yo mouth!

  • Nick Scroggs

    And this just brings back my thoughts from a while ago about how Trump guys might love to see a Kent State or Hard Hat Riot. It’s a loaded question when put forth to them, I admit, but it keeps flashing in my brain.

    • Lex Luthor

      A Republican party official in Michigan actually called for a Kent State-style response to protests last month. They’re still just as proud of it as they were then. “Should have been done long ago,” it says in the song because so many were saying just that.

  • Red Bird Ω

    He wouldn’t have done that to a man. That is all.

    • Pilotshark

      and what he did DOESN’T make him a man by no means!

      just a scared a$$hole.

  • Nick Scroggs

    Also, I’d elect a chimp to the presidency than the Donald. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA1YujjDE9s

    • TakingAmes

      We did already. That one lost the popular vote too.

  • Pilotshark

    makes you wonder if this cop did some OJT at home with his mother.

    but i can understand how an 85 year old could be such a threat, i mean she may have had a purse with her. he was just fearing for his life, which seems to be something they teacher in the academy, how to become a pu$$y and fear about every thing.

    • Jack Tenhet

      Well, she could have had a purse filled with buckles. We don’t know her story!

      Seeing old ladies walking around doesn’t even trigger my spidey-senses. Seeing cops walking around these days makes me nervous as hell and I have white, cis gender, male privilege.

    • Notreelyhelping
      • Calli Arcale

        It wasn’t so bad until she started in on the crochet. Now she’s up to five, six balls a day! If she can’t get wool, she gets violent.

  • Meccalopolis

    Maybe he’d just watched Harold and Maude and he was still traumatized

    • JustDon’tSayDieInJail

      I saw that movie when I was younger than Harold. I found it a little freaky, but cool.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        Vivian Pickles is my spirit animal.

  • Beowoof14

    Beating up old ladies and macing the people trying to help. And people wonder why the cops don’t get respect.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      ‘Respect us or we’ll shoot!’

  • Hemp Dogbane

    “very specific subgroup” should be a felony-level crime against the English language.

  • Unnamed_and_MaybeFake

    Hope the officer can look his grandma in the eye next Mother’s Day.

    • MamaBrown

      Huh. only if he lets her out of the basement.

  • JohnBull

    You wonder how he treats his wife and kids.

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      If this is how he treats an 86 year old? It breaks my heart to imagine what goes on behind closed doors… Then Sessions wants more laws & respect for police officers? Maybe when they start to show some respect for the citizens they’ve sworn to “protect & serve”.

      • Jack Tenhet

        Damn right! Respect is earned through actions, not uniforms.

        My nephew is a cop. I don’t know him well enough anymore to say whether I respect him or not. Being a cop doesn’t enter into that equation. Being a human being is the ultimate judge of how much respect one deserves.

        • Regret

          Being a cop makes you less human.
          As a cop you are constantly aware that you are superior and a disproportionate part of your interactions with other people is antagonistic. That could easily convince you that everyone is out to get you. If only for his wellbeing, you should try to convince your nephew to find another job, one that is less damaging to his mental health.

      • TakingAmes

        That’s a good point, actually. None of these folks (and by that, I mean the President, his Cabal, our Congresscritters, police, etc.) seem to be aware that they work for US.

    • snark-lurker

      that’s no shit

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Or his mother and/or grandmother.

  • shastakoala

    Pavement is the new Sidewalk.

    • Lex Luthor

      It’s the British sidewalk anyway. Messed me up for years in Spanish because apparently my Spanish-English dictionary was British, and I’d been saying “sidewalk” when I meant “paved surface” and wondering why people looked at me funny. The question of whether a road under discussion is paved comes up a lot in developing countries.

  • frrolfe

    On the other hand:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2017/mar/01/the-99-year-old-who-threw-herself-in-prison-and-other-strange-bucket-list-requests

    I hope the old cow who had herself jailed in St.fucking Louis had the shit beaten out of her. (With votes obvs). Maybe she should have taken her sorry arse over to Ferguson.

  • Liberal Fascist Ron

    So, any of y’all feeling safer yet?

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      I’m really, really tired of all the winning.

    • Regret

      Honestly, cops have never made me feel safer.
      Then again, in my country cops are usually the only ones walking around with guns. I think I have seen 2 guns IRL that were not in a museum or on the belt of a cop.
      Part of my dislike of cops comes from their guns: Guns are killing tools, and you don’t carry around a tool if you have no intention of using it.
      The other part comes from them having more rights than me, they could do violence to me and I would need 7 eyewitnesses for each cop if I want to win that court case. (that number was given as an estimate by a judge friend of the family).
      Were the situation reversed, and I did violence to them, even if I survived there is no chance that I would stay a free man
      So… advice for the kids: avoid cops, they are not your equals and without equality friendship is impossible.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    The Tucson police chief, Chris Magnus, is gay…I believe the only openly gay cop to head a major city police force. He seemed to be a good guy and offer some real hope for a change in attitude…I’m extremely disappointed that he refused to stand up for justice when it counted.

    • Duke

      Minneapolis has a lesbian. Does that count?

      • Calli Arcale

        And now so does Mendota Heights! She was in my graduating class, and I couldn’t be prouder of her.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        Oh my word! In the whole of Minneapolis? She must be so lonely. Maybe they are over in St. Paul. That seems likely.

    • frrolfe

      What does him being gay have anything to do with anything. Are you claiming that gays are all sunshine, lollipops and rainbow? I always thought that gays were human beings like the rest of us. We shouldn’t expect better or worse behaviour from gays or any other group.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Oh come on. I pointed that out because he seemed to go against stereotype in terms of introducing himself to and trying to be a part of the community, his hiring seemed to represent some sense of progress in the typical police mentality, and I met him once at a charity I volunteer for, and he seemed like a good guy. If you want to turn that into some form of ignorant gay-typing on my part, help yourself.

        • frrolfe

          you stereotyped a stereotype. What has his being gay got to do with anything?

          • Foocatchoo

            EVERYONE knows that they’re GENTLER, KINDER and more prone to use TICKLING as a form of punishment!

          • Jeffery Campbell

            You need to visit the Ramrod….

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            That maybe, just maybe being openly gay and coming up through the ranks of an organization that is still heavily infested with unreconstructed knuckle draggers might provide him some insights to and sensitivities about how other marginalized elements of society are often treated-or mistreated-by cops.

            But like I said, you have a bone to pick and you’re obviously not going to let it go, so hey, break a leg.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      I hadn’t seen the video before I left town. I’d heard that a few of the protestors were being provocational (which is NOT a good idea) and chalked it up as a black eye for the good guys. despite the foolish approach of those trying to get a reaction out of the cops, it’s NOT OK if those cops lose their cool.They are paid really well (especially in a low wage town like Tucson) and should be held to a higher standard than the protestors. Arrest them if they’re out of line, but do it professionally.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      Dallas’ sheriff is a lesbian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupe_Valdez

      Another of those bad hombres……

  • MeerkatsRMammals

    Reminds me of this story:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/23/1636923/-AL-04-5-Police-Cars-Respond-When-9-Senior-Citizens-Visit-Rep-Aderholdt-s-District-Office

    If the senior citizens are standing up to this atrocious administration, there’s probably something wrong…

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Friends of mine were at this protest; at least a couple of them were upset because they felt like a few of the protestors were trying to provoke a violent confrontation. That said, I don’t advocate violence, but ICE is rounding decent hardworking people, ripping families apart, and imprisoning them in the for-profit gulag in Eloy. They don’t ask nicely and say “please”. They’re not gentle and polite about it…they don’t stop because someone sings “We Shall Overcome” in a nice tenor.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    “I escorted her to the ground,” is how all the cops I know would write that up.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      They do employ this sanitized tribal Newspeak, don’t they?

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Corkscrew English.

  • Persistent Demme

    I hope she was/is OK.
    That was quite a smack in the back of her head!

  • Yr. Gma

    Speaking as a little old lady, I guess this is what we all have to look forward to under this new regime. “We’re taking your Medicare, old hag, and we’ll pepper-spray you if you don’t like it.” And what’s with Tucson? I thought that was the enlightened corner of Arizona. After all, that is Gabby Gifford territory.

    • BreakingDeadMen

      Cops are cops everywhere.

      • Mike Steele

        Beg to differ momentarily. Our nearby tourist Mecca, which goes from 8500 residents to 250,000+ on any given summer weekend, insists that local cops have BA degree at minimum and extensive training in staying human. It works if you work it…

        • BreakingDeadMen

          The exception that proves the rule

    • Pookabun

      Cops don’t tend to reflect the overall enlightenment of their surroundings. I’ve pretty much always lived in San Francisco or New York, two quite liberal cities, and yet the cops are generally pretty terrible. In part I think it may be because cops often are not from those cities, they commute in from surrounding areas. Or else, who knows? :(

      • TakingAmes

        Cops in Chicago have to live in the city of Chicago, according to the law. However, they, almost without exception, all live in the farthest, whitest, most suburban reaches that can still call themselves “city.” Also, their training sucks, and they’re not expected to have the best critical thinking skills.

        • Pookabun

          Sounds about right. Some police departments refuse to hire people whose IQ tests above a certain limit. NYC among them, based on a court case where that policy was challenged and upheld.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild
  • PixieThis

    His gramma probably used to tell him to cut his own switch, so he has a natural fear of older, frail women.

    • zerosumgame0005

      Trump never had to worry about that since his hands were so tiny when he was told it had to be thicker then his thumb it was so thin he couldn’t feel it!

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I think one of the problems our country is currently experiencing comes from Trump never being told to cut his own switch.

        • Regret

          Don’t blame it all on Trump, like everyone else he is a product of his environment.

  • Sandy Beaches

    In a similar vein, could someone explain to me how a 115 pound kid is supposed to put his hands behind his back when a 175 pound cop is literally sitting on him? #BlueLivesMatter

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/baltimore-police-punching-teen_us_58b6eb55e4b0780bac2f1b0a?

    • phoenix00

      #175poundcopsmatter more, apparently.

  • Mavenmaven

    She’s just lucky she’s not African American or there would have been blood on the street.

  • Foocatchoo

    Those damn ELDERLIES…they need to be rounded up and sent back to the country from which they came.

    • Begin Anew Day

      Eldertopia?

  • clairence

    That is clearly the kind of ‘effective’ law enforcement that our newest Attorney General is looking to promote by not pursuing abuse claims. It’s true; I’m already bored with all this winning.

  • Grokenstein

    Dear pigs: When we stop publicly protesting, that’s when you should be afraid.

  • Holly

    Point of fact: I’m an old lady. That he did this to an elderly woman is absolutely criminal and he should be charged with aggravated assault. Then to pepper spray the face of another women who is trying to help the elderly woman after he shoves her to the ground??? Are you fucking kidding me??? “To Serve and Protect” my fucking ass.

  • Jeffery Campbell

    I picture my 84 year mother, a wren-like woman with a penchant for protest and mouthy besides, being assaulted by a policeman and it make me sick to my stomach. Of course she’s also a crack shot and is usually packing, so maybe I shouldn’t worry. As a young woman, she was the librarian for the California Institution for Women in Corona (that’s a prison not a college). She could always pick that back up on the inside.

  • pixeloid

    “She has been participating in peaceful rallies and protests in Tucson since she moved there in 1987, she said, and has never had any problems with local law enforcement.”

    That’s because the US wasn’t officially a fascist police state until Jan 20, 2017.

  • sadboy

    Great. TPD is burning the eyes out of sextagenarian Samaritans downtown for blocking traffic, but somehow the rash of jaywalking drunkards staggering in the middle of 4th Avenue and Speedway Boulevard continues unabated.

    • freaktown

      because it’s not about “traffic” or “safety”. it’s about the police state not liking people who fight to protect the rights of others.

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