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What’s this guy doing in the picture? Oh right, Gamergate made him famous.

In late 2014, a group of special snowflakes got SO MAD, BRO!!! that girls were invading their online video game safe space. Thus began a 10-month period of harassment and threats against female programmers and journalists which came to be known as Gamergate. This week Business Insider published a piece summarizing the legal fallout from GamerGate, which was a big fat NULL SET. (Tech talk!) Despite tracking down several men and boys who had threatened to rape and kill female programmers and journalists, no one was ever charged.

Tech CEO Brianna Wu, who was forced to move into a hotel because of constant death threats, is currently running for Congress in Massachusetts promising to reform the law on cyber harassment. Wu says that the FBI failed to diligently investigate the Gamergate cases. “We gave them names, we gave them addresses, we gave them contacts at tech companies. They had everything they needed to proceed, and they just didn’t care.”

So…WTF?!?!?!? How can there be no fallout from a 10-month period of coordinated harassment and threats to dozens of women?

IT’S COMPLICATED.

The Sheriff Wiggum Problem

In 2014, Amanda Hess reported a series of threatening Tweets to a California police officer.

I did 12 years for ‘manslaughter’, I killed a woman, like you, who decided to make fun of guys cocks…Happy to say we live in the same state. Im looking you up, and when I find you, im going to rape you and remove your head.

When confronted with these threats, the cop asked, “What’s Twitter?” 

Local cops are uniquely ill-suited to deal with cyber-stalking, even the ones who have figured out Tweepster and ChapSnats. Officer Friendly probably has the tools to deal with a known harasser who lives in your city and who poses an imminent physical danger to you. But these tools are utterly useless dealing with untraceable cyberstalkers whose purpose is to punish you for being a woman who exists online.

So who can deal with threats that cross state lines?

YOU HAVE REACHED THE FBI. TO REPORT A SCARY MUSLIM, PRESS 1. ALL OTHER CALLS WILL BE ANSWERED IN THE ORDER RECEIVED….

One favored tactic of Gamergate harassers was to send repeated orders of food, payable on delivery, to the home of their target.

They were racking up food orders: sushi, Chinese food, Middle Eastern, orders usually totaling $60 or $70, all of them payable on delivery. Many people posted their receipts.

One of them decided he should post a Craigslist Casual Encounters ad, to get people to come to my house for sex, preferably “large black men.”

“Tell them she’s into serious rape roleplay,” someone suggested.

THEY SEEM NICE.

During the Gamergate investigatons, “A fourth suspect was recorded on video and audio by the FBI confessing to making 40 to 50 threatening calls, and yet no charges were brought.”

If you’re wondering if anything short of bodily harm will get the attention of the FBI…the answer is probably NO.

In 2014, a bomb threat forced feminist tech blogger Anita Sarkeesian to cancel a speech at Utah State University.

“I have at my disposal a semi-automatic rifle, multiple pistols, and a collection of pipe bombs,” a person said in an email sent to university officials before the event. “I will write my manifesto in her spilled blood, and you will all bear witness to what feminist lies and poison have done to the men of America.”

The FBI identified a suspect in that case, but never interviewed him. Even if they had, the federal statute for bomb hoaxes has a maximum penalty of five years imprisonment and/or a $5,000 fine. These cases are difficult to prove, and federal agents have little incentive to prosecute someone who poses no credible, physical danger to his victim.

The case eventually fizzled out:

The US attorney’s office in Boston “declined prosecution of the matter,” the FBI report says, adding, “USAO Boston declined prosecution without giving any explanation.” The San Francisco office of the FBI, which was leading the investigation, did not have state jurisdiction in Massachusetts and felt it could not pursue charges locally. In conclusion, the unnamed FBI agent on the case wrote, “It is requested that this investigation be administratively closed due to lack of leads.”

SO, THIS PROBLEM IS TOO BIG FOR LOCAL COPS, AND TOO SMALL FOR FEDERAL ONES! FFS! WHO ARE WOMEN SUPPOSED TO TURN TO?

Help us RBG, You’re Our Only Hope!

Don’t get too excited. This one doesn’t go well, either.

In 2014, the Supreme Court considered the case of a man, Anthony Douglas Elonis, who posted threatening “rap lyrics” about his ex-wife on Facebook. (His “rap name” was “Tone Dougie.”)

Fold up your [protection-from-abuse order] and put it in your pocket; Is it thick enough to stop a bullet?; Try to enforce an Order that was improperly granted in the first place; Me thinks the Judge needs an education on true threat jurisprudence; And prison time’ll add zeros to my settlement . . . And if worse comes to worse I’ve got enough explosives to take care of the State Police and the Sheriff ’s Department.

Gee, that sounds pretty threatening!

However, the first Amendment to the Constitution protects the rights of free speech, and courts are reluctant to curtail it in any way.

Mr. Elonis was convicted in the lower courts of violating the federal statute against making threats. But in an 8-1 decision, the Supreme Court found that it was not enough that Ms. Elonis reasonably felt threatened. The trial judge needed to also find that Mr. Elonis also intended to threaten his ex-wife, Elonis v. United States, 135 S. Ct. 2001 (2015).

So now, prosecutors of online harassment have to establish:

  1. That the harasser intended to threaten the victim; and
  2. That the victim’s fear of threat is reasonable.

Thanks a whole fucking lot, SCOTUS! Now Gamergate victims have to prove not only their own fear, but the intentions of their harassers!

This might be part of the reason the FBI failed to charge anyone in the Gamergate cases. Anna Merlan, the Jezebel writer who was on the receiving end of the blast of takeout deliveries, watched her harassers plan the attack in real time in a 4chan chatroom.

If Merlan knew from watching their discussion that she was in no danger of actual physical harm, the Elonis decision suggests that her case is not a “threat” under the federal statute.

FUN FACT: Noted Pervert Milo Yiannopoulos came to prominence during Gamergate. The former Breitbart Tech editor used his Twitter platform to doxx female journalists and incite his band of howler monkeys to harass and threaten them. For this, he was labeled a First Amendment Warrior and embraced by the party which claims to represent Family Values.

Is It Possible That there is No Federal Law Designed to Combat Anonymous Online Harassment?

IT IS!!!!

And the fact that 72% of online harassment is directed at women is ENTIRELY COINCIDENTAL.

In contrast, as Anna Merlan pointed out, police have no difficulty at all tracking down people who make online threats to harm cops. After a spate of police shootings in 2014, police cracked down hard on online threats.

In the same week, 17-year-old Fort Worth resident Montrae Toliver was arrested for making a terroristic threat after he posted a photo of a gun pointed at a parked police cruiser on Twitter. It bore the caption, “Should I do it? They Don’t Care For a Black Male Anyways.” The FBI arrested Jeremiah Perez of Colorado Springs for a YouTube comment that read, in part, “WE VETERANS WILL KILL RETIRED HELPLESS COPS.”

And in December 2014, Jose Maldonado was arrested within 24 hours of posting to Facebook, “Might just go out and kill two cops myself!!!”

Clearly, when police make enforcement a priority, they are able to prosecute online threats. But given that the legal tools to fight anonymous, online harassment are all but useless, it would be too simplistic to say that no one is prosecuted because cops just don’t care.

The Business Insider article tries to end on a positive note.

But the victims can take some comfort too.

The feds did track down at least four men who sent threats, and they now know the identities of several men believed to have had leading roles in organising Gamergate threats. Twitter, Google, and Microsoft all cooperated in the investigation, and subpoena warrants were served by a grand jury. This was taken seriously by the FBI, even if nothing ultimately came of it.

Considering that the PussGrabber Party now controls all three branches of government, this Pollyanna optimism is probably unwarranted. Women pay an extra “harassment tax” to participate in the online world, and anyone who points it out is mocked as a weakling who needs a “safe space.” The people who tried to shout down women who dared to speak in the No Girls Video Game Clubhouse then hid behind the First Amendment to protect their own abusive speech.

You want better laws? SHOW UP FOR THE GODDAMN MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

As for an upbeat ending….well, Tone Dougie Elonis was reconvicted when his case went back to the lower courts? It’s something, anyway.

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  • Snopes Shop

    Literally taking boxing lessons in the event in the event i come face to face with this lil feller

    • goonemeritus

      Boxing is a great thing to study, it teaches defense, offense and most importantly how to keep fighting after being hit. I hope you never have cause to need it.

      • GoutMachine

        It’s also fantastic exercise (unlike golf).

        • goonemeritus

          It really is, 2 minutes is a very long time when someone is hitting you in the head.

          • puredog

            “Everybody has a plan ’til they get punched in the mouth.”
            — Mike Tyson

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I’m actually going to be taking some private lessons over the summer with my 4 year-old girl. We both need a way to blow off some steam at the end of the day, and I also want her to be able to knock out any asshole who messes with her later in life. Or hell, even now.

  • schmannity

    Spicey just reminded a suffering nation the the State of the Union address is one week away.

  • MynameisBlarney

    For fucks sake, cops are stupid.

    • snark-lurker

      you know if the wimmenz wuz threatening the boys there wood be a full-on war against those whorrible slit-havers

      • SmokinGood

        There is a full on war. What they did to start it is exist.

        • willi0000000

          technically, it’s not a war until the other side fights back.

          [ what we have now is, more accurately, a slaughter ]

    • Villago Delenda Est

      They are highly selectively smart and stupid.

  • Nounverb911

    How’s Melania’s anti-cyberbullying campaign going?

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Well, Donald is still tweeting, so…not so much.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Totally captured my thought, Callyson.

      • Oneofthebobs

        Maybe she could threaten to break his thumbs.

        • snark-lurker

          ooo, that would do it

          • willi0000000

            he dictates tweets.

            [ how else would he generate more than two a day? ]

    • OneYieldRegular

      Reciting The Lord’s Prayer was her anti-cyberbullying campaign.

    • Serai 1

      Funny how that just disappeared, isn’t it?

  • Lizzietish81

    There was one reporter who was forwarding threatening and abusive messages to the mothers of the abusers and it was actually pretty effective.

    • GoutMachine

      I saw that – it was bloody fantastic.

    • MynameisBlarney

      What made it so effective was that the kids were still grounded to their rooms, so those moms knew right where to go to raise hell.

      • BearDeLaOursistance

        Kid libelz!

      • Moar Wordz

        LOL.
        Were these Gamergate abusers all teens tho’?

        • MynameisBlarney

          No idea really.
          Judging from their actions though…they’re quite immature either way.

          • Moar Wordz

            Indeed. Yet male teens capable of extreme violence as well, as history has shown.
            Key to my argument tho’ right ?
            ” The F.B.I was reluctant to take the case prosecuting twenty fourteen year olds, because their Moms should have raised them better. “

    • Asterix

      While I loved that – we need the police and FBI to enforce current laws and Congress to draft new ones.

      • OneYieldRegular

        If only there were a way to translate Mom’s Law into Federal enforcement…

    • Shanzgood

      Clementine Ford (awesome Aussie feminist writer) does that with men who send her rape threats. She also sends them to their employers when the person who sent the threat is stupid enough to list them on FB.

      • Moar Wordz

        Also love this

    • Moar Wordz

      Love it

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    Most important single statement in this entire article (all of which is great, enfuriating, exceptionally well-written, chilling, and incredibly timely): SHOW UP FOR THE GODDAMN MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

    This is a majority center-left country. And yet in many parts of the country the people most likely to vote are the angriest, most vicious, most racist, whitest, most privileged, most vindictive, most toxic, most bigoted, most anti-woman, and all around worst human beings available: which is how we got this absolutely filthy dark money Congress, loon-Republican school boards, city councils, and state legislatures, and, of course, the Great Orange Shit Gibbon.

    There is maybe one more cycle in which organizing and fighting for the right to exercise one’s vote will be, more or less, do-able and fairly straightforward.

    However, if Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents do their usual thing and sit out 2018 because they’re too tired or they forgot to register or the candidates aren’t EXACTLY 100% PERFECT IN EVERY DETAIL or whatever, then fuck all.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Preach it, brother. Jill Stein and diehard Berniebros, this person is talking about YOU.

      • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

        Not relitigating past differences with my brothers and sisters on the sane side of the political divide. What happened in 2016 stays in 2016. Talking about the future.

        • Serai 1

          Yeah, let’s just ignore the past so we can KEEP REPEATING IT.

          No. No, no, no, no. Sorry. You can keep watching people crap in their hands and rub it in the country’s face if that’s your idea of a good time. Not me, buster.

          • JMP

            Especially when the whole reason the Sanders dead-enders were able to hand Trump the election is because apparantly we hadn’t spent enough time discussing how Nader gave us President Bush in 2000, to the point where we still have idiots who claim to be liberal yet still defend the Nader voting that gave us the invasion of Iraq and torture.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          One of my problems with Bamz was that he, too, wanted to focus on the future, so war criminals are still at large.

          • willi0000000

            i believe he actually thought it would help the country heal

            [ . . . sometimes amputation is the only thing that will save the rest of the body ]

      • snark-lurker

        excuse me? I primaried for bernie, voted for hillary

        • Villago Delenda Est

          You’re not a diehard Berniebro. You just admitted it.

          • Paul

            As usual, I shoulda read a bit further.

            MTE

        • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

          Yep. This is behind us. Don’t take the bait.

        • BearDeLaOursistance

          I’m not in Villago’s brain to know for sure, but I suspect the phrase “diehard Berniebros” isn’t aimed at people like you (or me) who preferred Bernie but found Hillary a perfectly acceptable second choice.

          • MynameisBlarney

            I think those are the ones that “protest voted” for turmp or Stein.
            Or that other guy, whats-his-face.

          • Tiny kaiju

            A young friend referred to him only as Allepo.

        • Paul

          Then you’re not a die hard Berniebro. Relax.

      • Serai 1

        It’s also talking to that contingent of spoiled brat voters who JUST CAN’T BE BOTHERED OMG SO INCONVEEEEEENIENT. Fucking shitheads.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    It really is amazing how the cops can and do go after people who threaten cops online, but are totally clueless about people who threaten women on line.

    It’s like they don’t give a flying fuck about women.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      The bomb threat one confuses me – you’re telling me they knew who did it, but didn’t bother to follow up because, what?
      I bet if they had traced it back to someone who was…well, of a particular ethnic persuasion…he’d have been on the next plane to Gitmo.

      • willi0000000

        nah, shot resisting.

    • Clyde Barrow

      Unfortunately, many police would rather pick low hanging fruit (busting folks for weed, seizing the cars of unlicensed immigrants, et cetera) than conduct a potentially costly investigation for an unseen perpetrator.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    “I had many reasons for running for Congress, but seeing the structural failure of the FBI to respond to criminal harassment was certainly one of them,” Wu said.

    “It feels like so many institutions are failing to do the right thing with women,” she added.

    “Tell me about it!”

    – Hillary

    • Hairstrike Alpha

      In Trumpviet America foreign country elect you!

  • Paperless Tiger

    If only women could vote. Oh, wait!

    • Serai 1

      Too busy turning up their noses at candidates who aren’t OMG PERRRRFECT.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    They were racking up food orders: sushi, Chinese food, Middle Eastern, orders usually totaling $60 or $70, all of them payable on delivery. Many people posted their receipts.

    And this is not fraud and/or theft because…?

    • GoutMachine

      Sushi, Chinese food, Middle Eastern … you know, not ‘merkin food!

    • Serai 1

      Yeah, I don’t get any of that. The food was supposed to be paid for on delivery, so just tell the guy you didn’t order it. And if there were receipts, that means somebody paid for it, right? Are people paying for food they didn’t order? Why? If not, who was it that had the receipts? I just don’t get this part at all. It makes no sense.

      • suziq

        Don’t answer the door?

        • Serai 1

          I don’t see a problem with answering the door. But that doesn’t obligate you to pay for the fucking food!

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        I think what happened is that the harasser would order it online, post their copy of the receipt showing they ordered it and made the victim the person responsible for payment, and then the victim would either a) have to pay or b) refuse to pay, which means the business has to eat the cost of the food and employee’s time.

      • willi0000000

        you pays for the foods or you takeses te hits on the credits ratings when te restauranters reportzes yer butt.

    • puredog

      Well, theft usually requires a “taking,” and the only thing the gamers took was pleasure and LULZ.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        I guess I’m looking at it the same way as a “dine and dash” – the only difference is that they are not consuming the food. They are still directing and ordering a service, knowing in advance they have no intent of paying for it.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Do NOT read the comments in the seeker.com link!

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Damn it, you she beast! You know I can’t resist dares.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
  • Suttree

    My girlfriend is a gamer. She has not told me about these assholes. Because (redacted)

    • Lizzietish81

      I’ve managed to avoid them. Blizzard (the folks who make WoW) have done a pretty good job at enforcing rules and banning problem users.

      The main thing I’ve run into are the creepers, the “I’m nice to you so you owe me sex” crowd.

      • Suttree

        I am glad that you have not told me about them. I would be rather defensive.

      • Suttree

        I hate these people. But have I told you how much I love you?

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          GET A ROOM YOU TWO

          • willi0000000

            that’s what they did . . . and then that kind of thing started.

            [ personally, i think they like each other ]

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        “The main thing I’ve run into are the creepers, the “I’m nice to you so you owe me sex” crowd.”

        Sure, and when I said that to the little old lady that I helped across the street the other day, she slapped my face! Rude.

      • MynameisBlarney

        DDO is virtually free of people like that as well.
        They’re usually shunned and/or ridiculed immediately. At least amongst my circle of friends in the game, anyway.

        • DDO has a great community, I hope it stays that way now that it’s no longer Turbine…

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yeah, me too.
            I don’t see why it would change much. Unless they actually let the outside world know this game existed.

            My get some new players if they’d actually advertised, lol.

          • It is horribly dated from a graphics perspective (it wasn’t even top notch when it was released) but I maintain that it has by FAR the best quest design of any MMO I’ve ever played.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Agreed.
            I’ve been taking a fairly long break from it, since before the election even.
            Partly because, I needed time away from the game, and partly because there was just too much damn fun to be had here.

            As for vidja games…I’ve not found anything to make me want to leave DDO for good.

          • My typical rounds are Elder Scrolls Online, Marvel Heroes, The Secret World and DDO. Currently, it’s more ESO than anything else, but that’s mostly ’cause my main gaming buddy is playing that one at the moment.

        • Sister the Resister

          So, not a gamer, but what you and Lizzie have posted about the general culture of WoW and DDO reminds me of the Wonketariat – self policing, with strong backup from the Wielder of Banhammers, when people start being assholes. There’s obviously something different about what’s going on in these three places as compared to the places that get really out of hand and scary.

          Is it just the vigilance, multiple posters calling assholes out? Are places like WoW and DDO and Wonkette drawing dramatically different crowds due to the content? Is it the willingness and perspective that comes from the Banhammering class? Is it more than just these things?

          • Lizzietish81

            In the case of WoW, it’s been around for over a decade, so there’s been a lot of time to just sift these assholes out. Cracked also pointed out that the user base has matured with the game.

            Nowadays the biggest trolling we get is in DDOS attacks, which seemed to have calmed down.

            In WoW the abusive language I’ve come up against is usually in reference to my DPS.

          • MynameisBlarney

            LOL
            In DDO, people cuss at the Warlocks for being OP spamcasters.
            Of course, almost everyone is a damn Warlock now.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Well, we all are really fucking awesome.

            Seriously though, can’t speak for WoW, but the player base in DDO consist generally older, more mature folks.

          • puredog

            We’re all used to using our words. Big diff.

    • Lizzietish81

      Also, I’m not a hard core video gamer, so I’m not threatening. WoW and Rifts are the only MMOs I play in

      • Suttree

        You are still weird though. A dangerous position.

  • Clyde Barrow

    This piece really encapsulates the ‘troll culture’ on the internet, and how it is spilling over into real life. We’ve gone from beyond the obnoxious middle finger on the freeway when someone cuts you off, to going full on psychopath where people are actually going out of their way to see others get hurt in some capacity.

    It’s a pretty damning statement on the mental state of our society.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      “It’s a pretty damning statement on the mental state of our society.”

      So is the election of Donald Trump, to be president…of the United States of America.

      • Clyde Barrow

        Exactly. I’ve yet to see one single Trump voter come out and say “maybe Trump is wrong on this subject”. Nope, they won’t do it. It’s cognitive dissonance wrapped up in confirmation bias.

        It’s like it has become “hip” to be angry, misinformed, and belligerent, all at the same time. This is not a good rationale for any populace.

        • Lizzietish81

          One must have cognition to experience dissonance.

          • Clyde Barrow

            Touché.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      An alternate point of view, but no less chilling, is that society is no more or less crazy than it’s ever been – it’s only the technological capacity for anonymous mass communication that’s new. In other words, the whispering trolls now have a megaphone.

      • Clyde Barrow

        That’s true, and yet I feel most people are simply ill equipped to deal with the technology in a responsible capacity. A quick look at a Foxsnooze or Brietbart comment thread justifies that remark.

  • Lance Thrustwell

    I am a real free-speech nut. But threats? That’s easy. They serve *no* legitimate rhetorical purpose at all except as fair warning before a fair fight. Any other use of a threat should be actionable, period.

    If a given law enforcement agency genuinely doesn’t have enough personnel to pursue a given case, that’s unfortunate, but it is a legitimate excuse. However, at a minimum, there should be a clear statute making unwarranted threats a crime. It’s a necessary first step.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I’m also very “pro free speech,” to the point that I’ll defend assholes like nazis, Milo, Bill O’Reilly, etc…, but threats should be handled swiftly and harshly.

      • Lance Thrustwell

        Oh yeah? Just for that, I’m gonna send my trained pigeons to fly to your house and relieve themselves on your shrubbery!

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          You’re a monster!

          • puredog

            He’s a monster? Imma send my drone to drop canned clams on your house!

  • Mavenmaven

    I assume the gas chamber threats and other harrassment from Trumpis just get laughs when reported.

  • Swampay

    But but but protesters at Berkeley!!

    • Nounverb911

      Must have cost Soros a pretty penny.

  • The Wanderer

    (starts a recording of The Goon Show, to stop himself from getting so stabby)

  • Asterix

    You want better laws? SHOW UP FOR THE GODDAMN MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

    This should be shouted from the mountain tops every day until November 6, 2018.

    • Crank Tango

      Yeah, but who has time to study for midterms?

  • GoutMachine
  • Gayer Than Thou

    Somehow, businesses have managed to figure out how to make money over the internet, but when it comes to protecting people, especially women people, from online harassment, we’re completely baffled by how the internet works. If I were cynical, I’d say that’s because money matters more than women’s lives, at least in some powerful segments of society. But that can’t be true, right?

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Yup – getting something removed from Facebook or Twitter because it’s violent, racist or a direct threat feels like it requires an act of God.
      But someone reports a picture of a woman breastfeeding, and Facebook moves like lightning to take that down.

      • Courser_Resistance

        I was really impressed with my local television station. In a story about high school aged moms, one of them was briefly shown nursing her baby. It was actually beautifully shot and framed so it would of been impossible to say it was offensive. And really, it was just a quick, peaceful shot. I’ve been watching to see if anyone makes a stink about it.

  • goonemeritus

    The other 28% of on line harassment is directed at canned clams.

  • Msgr_MΩment

    Im looking you up, and when I find you, im going to rape you and remove your head.

    What is: worst Praying Mantis pick-up line ever?

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    “This was taken seriously by the FBI, even if nothing ultimately came of it.”

    Um. No.

  • Serai 1

    I’m confused. Can they track down these threats or can’t they? First you say no, then you cite a cast where they DID track down these assholes, then you say the tools to track them down are useless. Can they or can’t they? Which is it? Because the way it’s laid out here, it sounds like it very much DOES depend on whether the cops give a shit or not.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      It really depends on details like whether the troll in question knows how to cover their tracks or not. But I think some of these local police wouldn’t even know how to begin in any case and/or wouldn’t care in any case.

  • OneYieldRegular

    But Director Comey has been extremely busy.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      “You think threats of raping and killing you are bad? You should see Podesta’s risotto recipe!”

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Ya know, I heard it was common practice for police to tell an abusive husband to take a walk even with clear evidence that he’d just beaten the shit out of his wife. This surprises me not at all

    • Shanzgood

      Yeah. When I called the police because of a stalker who kept calling me and showing up at my home and work place, they told me there was nothing they could do unless he DID something to me.

      • GoutMachine

        JFC. Like he already wasn’t DOING STUFF to you, like stalking.

        • Shanzgood

          Scaring women is okay I guess.

          Maybe i should have just shot him and told the police I was afraid for my life. Or does that only work for white men against black teenage boys playing loud music?

          • suziq

            Actually, that asshole did not get away with it. I think because the kids were in the car and he was the one out and about so he couldn’t claim he was askeered of them because he could have/should have walked away. Now in every other case-white male afraid of someone and shoots him/her seems to be okay.
            There was also a lady that shot into the ceiling to scare away her ex or soon to be and she was convicted for reckless endangerment or some stupid thing like that but I think when that got out it was appealed.

          • Shanzgood

            I remembered that woman. She served a lot of time and the prosecutor tried to double down on her. Ugly. Yes, she was Black.

          • Oblios_Cap

            Fortunately the voters in the Jacksonville area threw her ass out last election (the prosecutor). Only in Flor-i-duh.

          • puredog

            Probably depends on your jurisdiction, among other factors (e.g., the respective skin colors, the deceased’s rap sheet, etc.).

      • Hairstrike Alpha

        That wasn’t me doing it, I promise. I’ve never even BEEN to Kansas

        • Shanzgood

          You were probably still in grade school anyway!

        • Oblios_Cap

          I lived there one decade, back in 1969. I was 11.

          • Shanzgood

            1969 was a good time to be in Lawrence.

          • Lizzietish81

            There’s a Supernatural joke in here somewhere….shit

          • Shanzgood

            I think that was a bit before the Winchester boys.

    • Asterix

      That is the common tactic. About 25 years ago my state (CT) decided this Was Not A Good Thing and changed the law. So now, in DV incidents the CT state or local police arrest both the abuser and victim. They whine that it is because they don’t know who is right or wrong and they are in fear of their own lives.

      insert eyeroll and head-desk.

      • GoutMachine

        Oh, that’s brilliant – in that all it does is guarantee an under-reporting of DV incidents.

      • Serai 1

        When did cops become such fucking COWARDS?

    • Jgb979

      The most terrifying thing about the ESPN OJ documentary is realizing just how many times (10+) Nicole called the cops and nothing happened

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    I had someone trying to rent my house out online. I contacted the local police, who told me to contact the FBI. I’m still waiting to hear back from them…that was five years ago. Seriously, I never even got an email back. I had the guy’s phone number, they could have caught him pretty easily.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      A man who was doing repairs on the house next door backed his van into my motorcycle and crushed the handlebars. When I confronted him, he fled. When I called the cops, and they showed up 7 hours later, they told me that they didn’t care about a hit and run on a vehicle unless the damage was substantial, like 5K or more.

      Then again, at least I’m white, so they didn’t shoot me when they showed up.

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I guess we need to be thankful for the small things, like not getting shot.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          Or tased or punched. This was back when Seattle cops couldn’t seem to see a darker-hued person without immediately assaulting them.

  • lucidamente

    “But these tools are utterly useless dealing with untraceable cyberstalkers.” ISWYDT

  • BearDeLaOursistance

    Does “with votes” only apply to public figures? For convenience’s sake, I am going to assume “yes” and say Totally Not With Votes about these morally stunted fucks.

  • beingreleased

    This isn’t exactly Gamergate, but I heard a podcast about people who like to send swat teams to the houses of people livestreaming video games so that you could see the swat team arrest the gamer live on video. That’s the kind of thing that could easily get people killed.

    • Clyde Barrow

      That’s called “Swatting”, and it became popular among rival gang members and drug dealers to “swat” on a rival in hopes that the police would take them out.

    • BearDeLaOursistance

      Especially in Modern Murka, where the approach is to kill ’em all and let BabbyJesus sort ’em out.

    • MynameisBlarney

      I think that did happen once.

    • Lizzietish81

      Sounds like Eve Online, where there was once a conspiracy to cut a user’s power.

  • Mr. Lambert

    At 40-something I thoroughly enjoy playing games online with my friends. It’s better than a phone conversation – it feels like I’m hanging out with friends while living on opposite coasts. People who threaten others online obviously have no friends. Otherwise, they’d be hanging out with them instead of harassing women who dare to enjoy something we all have a right to enjoy.

  • DahBoner

    Zero is the Hero of Conservatives…

    Why? Because it means absolutely nothing.
    https://media1.giphy.com/media/ycMDCHcIAJSSY/giphy.gif

  • suziq

    Maybe a dumb question, I am a girl but don’t got game. Who gives a flying fuck if you are male or female while playing a game anonymously? What is threatening their delicate male egos about that?

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      How much time you got??

      • suziq

        Evidently a lot since I am on my computer not playing games all day!

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          Haha!

    • Moebym of the Returners

      The world of video games is their safe space, where they can protect their delicate male egos from the emasculating presence of women.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Was.

    • MynameisBlarney

      I’m a dude and a gamer, I think it’s because they’re insecure sniveling little virgin shit heads.

      • Asterix

        That, and the girlz are kicking their asses.

        • suziq

          Kind of the only thing that really makes sense.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Our guild leader is a woman, but she’s what is know as “casual”. Meaning, gaming time 2-4 hours on weekends if she’s lucky.
          In another guild that we run with there are quite a few women that are hardcore into it. Like 6-7 hours every day. And they are REALLY good.

          They totally kick my ass in PVP too.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          Do not underestimate male butthurt at that.

      • suziq

        So it is probably the only interaction with females that they get, shouldn’t they like that? Or are they all Milos, they hate all girls?

        • MynameisBlarney

          A little bit of A and a little bit of B.

          As for why they don’t like it. I think it’s because they’re terrified of losing to a girl, or as being seen as inferior to a girl. In game and out.

          • suziq

            That really is just sad. And not even in the SAD! way. But for real.

        • Skadi

          a-hem…

          “When we’re playing tag and the girls want to play
          We yell and we scream and we chase them all away.
          When we’re playing stickball or racing our toys
          And the girls ask to join, we say ‘Only for boys.’
          We play hide-and-seek, and the girls wander near:
          They say, ‘Please let us hide.’ We pretend not to hear.
          We don’t care for girls, so we don’t let them in.
          We think that they’re dumb–and besides, they might win.”

    • JMP

      Only men are allowed to play video games! Really, that’s what these fuckheads believe.

      • suziq

        Oh, okay, that makes lots of sense.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      I’m not a gamer, but even if I were, I think I still wouldn’t have any idea. That whole thing seems like it’s from another planet to me.

      • Oblios_Cap

        That’s because you’re not a total zero.

        • Lance Thrustwell

          I’ll take that as a compliment!

          • Oblios_Cap

            meant that way.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      It’s not only playing games, but it’s also designing games or creating content where female characters are actually “characters” in their own right capable of being just as good if not better than their male counterparts.
      To the MRA, female characters in video games are nothing more than scenery and/or trophies to collect.

      • suziq

        Oh well, I am sure if a girl designed the game it would be totally lame, because everybody knows girls aren’t as SMRT as the boys are!

    • So, they way I believe it boils down is that games were, until very recently, marketed almost exclusively to boys, so the user base was predominantly male when offline gaming became online gaming. As such, there were very, very few girls playing.

      Originally, my experience with that wasn’t so much the guys being angry, but the guys being creepy fucks and expecting that because there was a girl there, she’d obviously want to fuck all the guys there, which naturally she did not… So the whole “yay, a girl she should love me!” Became “these girls who should want to fuck me don’t want to fuck me, so I hate them!”

      Now that there are more girls online, that misplaced hatred just just multiplied by a bunch of people who don’t have the social skills to deal with members of the opposite sex offline and aren’t getting the validation they feel they deserve online.

      Buncha fucking losers who can’t get laid, really.

      • Serai 1

        Fuck, I used to run into that “of course you’ll fuck me” horseshit back in the 70’s and 80’s in the science fiction community. Too fucking tiresome for words. What the fuck gives these pathetic little slobs the idea that if they can’t get laid in the real world, any and every woman in fandom will fuck them? Every time I went to a LASFS meeting, I ended up wanting to bathe in bleach. Fucking EW.

      • suziq

        Don’t know why but I always feel sorry for the losers. I think they need to do more in schools teaching diversity. We are all the same in some ways but also unique in some ways. They did that in Norway or someplace to assimilate the Mooslums and it really helped. Far less problems. Kids are interested in everything and are pretty accepting but if they don’t understand they will make fun and be mean. Right now I am feeling kind of hopeless because Trump.

    • Lizzietish81

      Geek culture in general has been undergoing a big demographic shift from mostly male to more evenly based.

      When we went to see Guardians of the Galaxy we filled out survey forms and the results were surprising to marketers because they still think it’s the 80s. Essentially most of the viewers were women who expressed interest in other geek activities. In fact the film itself was kind of seen as a long shot by the folks at Marvel because it was written by a woman.

      This has been happening since the 90s, when the Gen Xers were in college btw.

      But like all things, there’s the Old Boy’s Club which doesn’t like it. They accuse women of faking interest in order to get boys, while simultaneously complaining about not getting laid by greedy sluts.

      Personally I’ve been pretty lucky in avoiding this stigma, at least to my face, except of course the creepers who are pretty ubiquitous.

      • suziq

        I didn’t know that was written by a woman, I loved that movie and am looking forward to the sequel. Makes sense since there was more than just shooting and racing around.

        • Lizzietish81

          I had to double check, yes it was written by James Gunn the director and Nicole Perlman, and I remember there was some whispered back and forth about that being why Marvel wasn’t going all out in marketing.

          • Also, difficult to market a film where primary characters are a talking space racoon and a sentient tree. ( loved that movie, saw it twice in theatre, already want to buy tix to see vol2)

      • Serai 1

        When the LOTR movies came out, I got so fucking sick of the media referring to them as “fanboy” movies and how only pimply geek boys liked them. HELLO? Have you bothered to check out a SINGLE screening of those films? Fucking idiots, I swear to the gods.

    • Lizzietish81

      Another thing, and this is mostly to do with the creepers, is that geek culture has long been a refuge for “socially awkward” men.

      At least that’s what was mansplained to me on rpg.net….which led to my banning. <_<

      Still there is some validty in that a community that has been populated by Aspie males may have some problems adjusting to women being in their sphere. Added to that we're talking about a culture in which the shy geeky male wins the sexy woman in the end all the time, so now there is an expectation that simply isn't true.

      • suziq

        They win the woman? Sounds like-fun? If only there was some way they could interact with normal females so they wouldn’t feel so intimidated…

    • Kakkeltje

      This was actually researched not so long ago:
      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33613781

    • Serai 1

      You make the mistake of expecting logic. This is about the male ego, which works on same premises available to a two-year-old child. Think on that level.

      • suziq

        You are right, that does make a difference!

  • JMP

    This just reminds me that I need give up on this persistent troll I’ve been dealing with the last few days who keeps defending fucking GamerGate and declaring that I’m a pro-censorship fascist for being against that hate group.

    • MynameisBlarney

      If you give up, then he’ll be convinced he was right.

      • Crank Tango

        Either way he’s gonna be convinced he was right.

        • MynameisBlarney

          LOL
          True. But unrelenting and harsh ridicule can wear them down.

      • Yr. Gma

        No one ever won an argument with a troll.

        • Oblios_Cap

          Burn down the bridge he stays under.

        • OrG

          When I get in a few good jabs and then the troll gets banhammered,I FEEL like I won.

        • MynameisBlarney

          I dunno…
          We’ve run a few off from here with constant ridicule.

          • Yr. Gma

            Seems to me they just open a new account under a different name and keep coming back.

          • MynameisBlarney

            I think that’s just that one guy.
            I’m talkin about the ones from right-wing sites that come here to show us all how ignorant they are.

        • Serai 1

          That’s why I just dance at them.

    • Serai 1

      Would you like me to dance at him?

  • Lefty Frizzell

    So now, prosecutors of online harassment have to establish:

    1. That the harasser intended to threaten the victim; and
    2. That the victim’s fear of threat is reasonable.

    This is very worrying indeed. Terrifying in fact. My understanding of SYG is that only 2. is required, so the courts seem to be arguing proactively that shooting the bastard is your most practical and legal remedy.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Having taken both concealed carry and home defense handgun courses, there are two rules to the Make My Day law in CO.

      Make sure the bad guy is *entirely* within your home. Not ‘one foot in/one foot out.

      Make sure the bad guy is entirely and completely dead. A wounded intruder will sue you so hard, your next 10 generations will still be paying it off.

      • Jonny On Maui

        “If part of the perp is outside after you’ve shot him, drag him back inside.”

        GA police, 1976…

    • puredog

      Well, as a attorney, for the examples in the article it seems to me that a half-competent prosecutor would not have a lot of difficulty proving intent.

    • Nockular cavity

      Whoa, whoa, wait! That law’s for white men!

  • chascates

    Obviously the complainants should state they are white Christian Trump voters who buy Ivankawear. That might make a difference.

    • OrG

      And the harasser is mooselim.

    • puredog

      Until the cops ask, “You gotta receipt for that schmatte?”

  • beingreleased

    OT: Donnie’s looking to set a record:
    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/834114299652087808

    • GoutMachine

      Is PolitiFact’s HQ just perpetually on fire now?

  • Jonny On Maui

    you will all bear witness to what feminist lies and poison have done to the men of America.”

    No, we’re witnessing your insanity you melting snowflake.

  • Crystalclear12

    Not commenting until my stabby meter stops pegging out.

    Could take awhile

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    Hmmmmm….victims are mostly female, perpetrators are mostly male, and there just isn’t one thing law enforcement can do to help…where have I heard this before??

  • Vincent Ricola

    I hate the Gamergate story. The ladies involved did nothing to deserve the harassment or blind-hatred they received from asshole anons.

    I came up in the tech field a couple decades ago, back when it was mostly old hippy guys, and as a very young lady, I was treated with total respect. Yes, I initially got a few stupid “she’s our team mascot” jokes, but once they saw that I was really interested in programming, they taught me secret special computer tricks and helped me achieve my goals in countless ways. I would not have survived in this field without their help and support.

    Now it appears that the field is full of anti-social MRA types with severe mommy-issues and rapey tendencies and it breaks my heart. I hate to say it, but I’m really glad I’m a middle-old because I don’t know that I could be as strong as these young women have managed to be with the constant abuse.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Did you work with UNIX, perchance? I ask because I find that has the highest concentration of old hippies.

      • Vincent Ricola

        That’s where I started and it was all old hippies. Wonderful, stoner, helpful, old hippies.

        • AnnieGetYerFun

          I know many of these guys. They retire young and make a living writing science fiction in which there are strong female protagonists.

          • Vincent Ricola

            Those are my people. They are the best.

    • My sample size is small (our team is 8 people, all guys…) but thankfully, none of us in my I.T. dept. fall into the MRA category. Hell, over half of us are married to actual ladies who they (presumably) don’t even hate. I wish I could say that was the norm in the industry though…

    • Serai 1

      This gibes with my experience. I wasn’t a tech, but I knew a bunch of computer people in the 80’s and worked admin at a couple of tech companies in the early 90’s. Back then, the guys I knew were great. (For the most part. There’s always assholes in any group.) They were quite cool, and always willing to explain stuff without being condescending. I think a lot of that came from the fact that this was all before it got taken for granted that EVERYBODY should know about computers and tech. That may have something to do with it.

  • Darthhippy
  • Jonny On Maui

    I absolutely love the cops take on threats. Against the police? A mountain falls on you. Anyone else? Well, remember that the cops now only protect and serve themselves.

    Yes, I know. #notallcops…

    • GoutMachine

      I’d be willing to give more cops the benefit of the doubt if just ONE of the #notallcops we hear about from the Blue Lives crowd would come out and say “being a racist asshole is bad” or “yeah, we need to rethink how we train police” or “shooting an unarmed black kid is not good.”

      • Villago Delenda Est

        I have no fear of having to give them the benefit of the doubt.

      • UncleTravelingMatt

        Good. Goooood.

      • Up In Smoke O’hontas

        Our police chief is doing all of those things! He is actually a very decent man (with an English degree???IRK?) so naturally the city council and McMansion crowd are giving it to him with both barrels. I have to say that I have seen some examples of helpful policing, deescalation, social work and basic humanity in action. It probably doesn’t hurt that they don’t ticket for small amounts of weed either.

  • Men are assholes. Sorry about that, ladies. Thanks for not killing all of us in our sleep.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      Oh, the evening is young.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        I’m just waiting on the signal.

        • Jonny On Maui

          No moar sleep for me…

          • Oblios_Cap

            Verily thou shouldst gird thy loins before bedtime…

          • Jonny On Maui

            Girding my loins ain’t gonna stop a shovel to the head… :-)

          • Shanzgood

            Make sure HER “loins” are sorted out and you might not have to fear the shovel treatment!

          • Oblios_Cap

            Put the colander on your head, then.

        • MynameisBlarney

          Bring it! You’ll never make it past my impenetrable fortress of empty beer cases, couch cushions and blankets!
          There’s even a sign sayin’ “No gurls aloud!”

    • Asterix

      I have considered it.

      And not with votes.

  • JMP

    Look, where those cretins ruining the lives of anyone who dared to have opinions they disagreed with black or brown? If not, then the police figure they have no business arresting them.

  • janecita

    I don’t know about you guys, but I’m so glad that Melania Trump will be fighting cyber bullying! I’m sure that incidents like these ones won’t happen again.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      I’d be happy if she could just rein in ONE cyber bully. The one she sleeps next to (allegedly).

      • WotsAllThisThen

        Or her many fans

    • LucindathePook

      If she takes his phone away, she can cut cyberbullying by 50% first thing.

  • masked mumbler

    Law enforcement opinion in a nutshell: jokes about bombs: not OK, in any context. Bald-faced threats to rape and murder women: ehh, we might get to it one of these days.

    • GoutMachine

      Jokes about bombs are a-OK if you’re talking about bombing brown people.

    • Nockular cavity

      I don’t remember Reagan getting arrested for joking about bombing Russia.

    • puredog

      “Well, you know, if you’re raping a particular woman, you know wimmenz, she probably did something to cause it to happen. But bombs, well, some innocent bystander might get hurt.”

  • laughingnome

    The Wisdom of Sean Spicer –

    One of the beauties of history is that we not repeat itself.

    • puredog

      That *is* wonderfully tin-eared, makes me nostalgic for “misunderestimate.”

  • Bitter Scribe

    That was a great point about the cops being perfectly willing to run down threats directed at themselves, but indifferent about threats against women. A bunch of useless doughnut-dippers.

    • clubseal

      I’d be interested to know if the cases they did chase after actually went anywhere. Those still seem like clear cut First Amendment cases.
      Doesn’t excuse their selective attention though.

      • Bitter Scribe

        Whether the cases go anywhere or not, just getting a visit from a detective would get nine out of ten of those bile-flavored marshmallows who threaten women online to knock that shit off.

  • rick

    Gamergate + 4Chan = Trump’s Rise

    https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb#.d9m94rgak

    Great read with lots of background and historical perspective.

    • Gosala

      Can you boil that down into a2 page summary with bullet points?

      • Oblios_Cap

        tl;dnr

      • Mavenmaven

        “Losers who can’t get girls see Trump as one of them”.

        • rick

          Trump has been a loser his entire life and the only time he won* anything of significance was due to parliamentary procedures.

        • Moebym of the Returners

          4chan supporting Trump is celebrating loserdom. This is the left’s problem, so we should solve it.

      • rick

        No Mr. Tillerson, I can not. 😜

    • h4rr4r

      4Chan + 4Chan?

      Both of things are the same thing.

      • rick

        …from the article which I linked:

        Soon 4chan and other like minded men who felt wronged by women, took up the rallying cry.

        Gamergate is not a 4Chan invention.

        • h4rr4r

          Let me show you the venn diagram:

          O

          • rick

            You showed nothing. What you showed is a circle, which is what CONservatives generally run around in.

          • h4rr4r

            A single circle is the venn diagram of those two groups. This means 100% overlap.

      • rick

        4Chan simply popularized Gamergate. 4Chan was not the genesis of it.

        • h4rr4r

          I already explained this.
          Same kind of folks. Venn diagram looks like a single circle.

    • Moebym of the Returners

      He lost me when he claimed that the 4chan demographic is the left’s own problem, thereby making it ours to solve. Everything is our problem, our fault. I’m sick as hell of this argument.

      • rick

        We always have to solve the world’s problems. Heck, America wanted us to fix the W Bush disaster/problem. Then they complained when BAMZ!!! didn’t fix it fast enough or well enough – to suit them.

        • Moebym of the Returners

          The American Left are now the mother who works her ass off for no pay, yet can’t seem to get any respect or appreciation from her kids or her husband, who have no problems creating plenty of messes for her to clean up – never quickly enough, natch – while they claim that the messes are actually *her* fault for not being attentive enough.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    I can’t really wrap my head around people believing that some aspects of these games are so important that they’re worth an epidemic of threats.

    I mean, I’m sometimes a tad miffed that FIFA is so behind the times on video replay but it really doesn’t make me want to rape or kill anybody (although Maradona in ’86 is probably worth a stern look).

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      When I had an XBOX 360, I tried the online content because I’d never experienced real-time playing against someone online.
      I lasted about a week – the unabashed and naked racism, misogyny and pure unleashed id was bananas. And this was 10 years ago.

  • Oblios_Cap

    When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.

  • Mary Sandoras

    If you’re wondering if anything short of bodily harm will get the attention of the FBI…the answer is probably NO.

    I lived this reality with the police dept. I was a single at the time and someone broke into my apt. while I was sleeping. I awoke to a man trying to tie me up with rope. Fortunately, I screamed and he ran. When the police arrived and told me there was nothing else they could do unless he came back and physically harmed me, it was on the biggest WTF moments in my life.

    • GoutMachine

      Someone needs to tell them the “protect” in “protect and serve” doesn’t happen retroactively.

    • Shanzgood

      I’m sorry, Mary. That was the response I got, but not after something so scary. Basically “Call us back after he actually rapes you.”

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Damn. However, I think that sort of thing varies tremendously by region, police dept., individual officers, etc. I have this sneaking suspicion that if what you described had happened in the Hamptons, the police wouldn’t have just brushed it off.

      Btw, glad nothing worse happened!

      • Mary Sandoras

        Thanks Lance, I was fortunate in that event.

  • janecita

    OT, but I’m just so glad that we are not the ones being possessed by demons this time!!!
    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/pastor-walks-out-on-trumps-demonic-florida-rally-my-11-year-old-daughter-was-sobbing-in-fear/amp/

    • Vincent Ricola

      I don’t even know what to make of this story. My goddess.

    • Damnit! Take all the fun out of my day

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Although I don’t believe in actual demons or devils, I do like adjectives like “demonic” and “Satanic.” I think they capture something that is kind of hard to put your finger on without recourse to these old concepts.

      • Skadi

        There was a meme going ’round (started by conservatives, no less) that Trump was an avatar of Loki. It makes as much sense as anything.

    • Courser_Resistance

      Yeah, I read that this morning.

      I don’t believe in demons, but I do believe that charismatic types can incite mass hysteria among the susceptible. Meaning dumb and uninformed, which is his base. This needs to be watched.

      This could be the beginning of his personal army of brownshirts, only this time with red hats. Imagine he starts holding these gigs every month, each time in a different locale to urge his Flying Monkees to enforce his will.

      Again. Scary as fuck.

    • shivaskeeper

      Did anyone doubt that this is what it was going to come too? He ran and won on lies, fear, and bullying.

    • Claire

      Republicans being possessed by demons? Uncool. Our union reps better be all over that.

      • janecita

        I know right?! I’m kind of upset about these posers!

    • yyyaz

      Not nearly as many Nazis as the original got to turn out. Weak. Failing.

  • proudgrampa

    So here we are in the 21st Century (hell, might as well be the 13th) and women still have to go through this bullshit.

    Ladies, the point has already been made: VOTE, for chrissake!

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    This article is a year old, and it’s about the economic devastation that Sam Brownback wrought in Kansas, along with Bobby Jindal’s financial hurricane in Lousiana, so it’s off topic, but a good read:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/gop-must-answer-for-what-it-did-to-kansas.html

    As usual, Democrats don’t publicize this economic wreckage.

    • Shanzgood

      Kansas just passed a bi-partisan budget intended to repair a lot of Brownback’s damage. He’ll probably veto it if he hasn’t already. But at least we’re making some progress. And they quit fucking around with crazy anti-abortion bills for a while. (Looking at you, Okies.)

      • Shoto

        Imma take a SWAG that Brownback is the stupidest governor in the country. (Yeah, there’s Scott Walker, Rick Snyder, that idiot in Texas, and a few others, but still…)

        • Shanzgood

          Pretty much.

  • Nockular cavity

    “You know the score, Deckard: if you’re not a cop, you’re little people.”

  • Shibusa

    Pretty sure prosecutors of online harassment would have a low bar for establishing that the harasser intended to threaten the victim; and that the victim’s fear of threat is reasonable if the harassees are, say, esteemed members of the judiciary.

    • shivaskeeper

      Only if gun is involved in a stand your ground state.

  • Anna Rompage

    I’m not sure if this has made the rounds, but on top of Milo being disinvited to speak at CPAC, and his book deal canceled, it appears he has been forced to resign his post at Deadbart….

    • Crank Tango

      Something something liberal media.

      • Anna Rompage

        Namby pamby PC police can’t deal with the glorious reality of older men, including Father Michael, sexually abusing young boys…

    • Jonny On Maui

      Karma. How does it work?

      • MynameisBlarney

        Same way magnets do, I reckon.

    • Shoto

      Perhaps his 15 minutes are just about over? If there’s any justice left in the world, he’ll be lucky if he can scratch out a living picking up trash on the I-10.

      • Anna Rompage

        He could probably make a living hustling BJs over the next few years, as long as he stays away from the drugs, booze, and cigarettes…

        Nobody want’s to pay for a BJ from a washed up, obnoxious, haggard brit…

        • MynameisBlarney

          Never know, that could totally be someones fetish.

          • Anna Rompage

            Oh, I’m sure there’s folks out there willing to pay for such things. The problem is that they’re so few and far between, that poor Milo wouldn’t make enough gas money to get from one taker the the next…

        • Raan

          Oh, I’m sure he’ll become the premiere whore of sexually-repressed, gay-bashing, Bible-Belt legislators.

      • lowenufc

        Handies and bjs for attention along I84?

    • MynameisBlarney

      https://media.giphy.com/media/26xBrVyAYHkVXOZLG/giphy.gif

      LOL

      That fucker’s gonna have to get a real job now.

      • Shanzgood

        He’s a little too old to become a rent boy.

        • Serai 1

          Now that Viagra’s a thing, nobody needs fluffers anymore.

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        Hopefully, nobody will sponsor his work visa.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Now, he needs to be deported.

      • Martini Ambassador

        I’m not sure Greece is willing to take him back. (Is he Greek, I don’t really even know, but wherever his country of ancestry, they probably don’t deserve that abuse.)

        • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

          British

    • shivaskeeper

      In his world words don;t matter. There should be no consequences to anything you say. If words hurt you it’s because you are thin skinned.

      Since that is a pretty good summary of his outlook, I guess this will be a learning experience for him. Toughen him up a little bit.

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    “Donald Trump to tackle deficit with imaginary growth, elimination of popular programs”

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/trump-to-tackle-deficit-with-fake-growth-abolition-of-pbs.html

    • Anna Rompage

      That’s not imaginary growth silly, rather they call it Dynamic Scoring….

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        Well, you have to admit, it takes a certain amount of dynamism to be that detached from reality.

    • anon_the_great

      In Lord Dampnut’s defense that IS the Rethuglican agenda since 1980

    • Shoto

      ZEGS Ryan, and Fuckface Turtle-Boy are all about gutting the social safety net, then passing the savings along to their oligarch enablers. Hence, they should be perfectly fine with Drumpf’s trickle-down-on-steroids lunacy.

      I’ll say it again: ZEGS Ryan’s congressional seat needs to be aggressively targeted, effective immediately. I’m looking at you, DNC.

      • YourMom

        It’s a shame someone doesn’t declare right now…or at least we need a place to start sending our small donations over the course of the next 21 months.

  • Oneofthebobs

    Sounds like Milo might have a tough time getting a job at Subway.

    • MynameisBlarney

      Yeah, they only recently instituted a “Don’t Hire Pedophiles” policy too.

      Shame.

      • Alternative Pony Ron

        It’s always all about timing.

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      I don’t think they will sponsor his visa. Subway saves that for execs and such.

    • Anna Rompage

      I hear Josh Dugger might be looking for a PR guy…

  • Martini Ambassador

    You want better laws? SHOW UP FOR THE GODDAMN MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

    This, about a million times.
    https://media.giphy.com/media/2SgkV9VcuncPe/giphy.gif

  • aureolaborealis

    Maybe it’s just me, but this all seems sub-optimal.

  • Michael Smith

    Yeah, and then in 2016 Gamergate basically staged a coup and took over the federal government.

  • clubseal

    Notably this story doesn’t say much at all about video games, which I presume is where much of this started. I’m thankful in a way, since I love video games and don’t want to be associated with these morons. Unfortunately, I’m also a man, and have to try to distance myself from that demographic too sometimes.

  • masked mumbler

    I think this is a good time to mention that carrying pepper spray or mace is a good idea for anyone who is capable of responsibly using it, especially for women.

  • shivaskeeper

    Is there no follow through from law enforcement because there is no mechanism for the follow through? As in there is no law or precedent to be used to prosecute?

    I know part of it is the law does not keep up with the tech and laws tend to be reactionary i that they get passed when enough people complain about new tech and crime.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      I dunno – it seems that they seem to do okay with arrest and prosecution of online threats when they’re directed at police.

      • shivaskeeper

        Right, but IIRC there is a body of case law dealing with threatening the police in person, so it’s not hard to see it being tweaked to use it against online treats. Or do they just not take online threats seriously for regular citizens.

    • clubseal

      I’m no lawyer, but it seems as though it’s a lot harder to prove that there’s an imminent threat when you don’t know who the person making the threat is, and they are likely hundreds of miles away, in mom’s basement their super secret safe space.
      Unfortunately, this is all likely leading to a really bad “I told you so.”

  • MynameisBlarney

    OT; but…”Yes, we DO think you’re stupid!”

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028685603

  • So, hot of the press:

    Milo resigns from Breitbart’s Home for Wayward Self Haters

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      Who’s gonna drop a dime on him and call ICE and report that a condition of his Visa just lapsed?

      • Skadi

        Is that a challenge? ;)

        • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

          See something, say something.

      • From hero to zero all because he advocated for Priest/child relationships but as a gay white nationalist nazi fuck he was endeared.

        It’s weird where the Regressives draw their lines, no?

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      Also, too, it was the fault of libtards, who were working with the NeverTrumpers, and establishment Republicans to bring Milo down, according to the EIC of Breitbart.

      • clubseal

        Using his own words, like a common enemy of the state media, also too.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          UNFAIR!!!!!

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    From Huffpo
    “While Marlow repeatedly disavowed Yiannopoulos’ comments, he also took aim at liberals, who have normalized similar behavior, he claimed. The circulation of the podcast video appears to be a “coordinated hit” by members of the left, the Republican establishment and the “Never Trump” movement, Marlow added.

    Yiannopoulos had just come off a chummy interview with Maher on Friday, would have addressed the conservative faithful at CPAC this week and had a likely best-seller coming in June. Since the podcast interview wasn’t recent, Marlow suggested these anti-Yiannopoulos forces waited “until they could do the most damage to his career and to Breitbart, and by proxy, people like Trump and [Steve] Bannon,” he said, referring to the former Breitbart chairman who is now the president’s chief strategist.

    Yiannopoulos indeed has ties to the Trump White House. In addition to previously working for Bannon, he has received praise on Twitter from Dr. Sebastian Gorka, a former Breitbart writer and current deputy assistant to the president.

    But Trump himself did perhaps the most to elevate Yiannopoulos’ profile nationally. When violent protests at the University of California, Berkeley led to the cancellation of Yiannopoulos’ scheduled appearance earlier this month, Trump threatened the university’s funding in a tweet to his more than 20 million followers.

    Take that, Libtards! Also, too, I didn’t get the memo that we were working with establishment Republicans now.

    • Nockular cavity

      Marlow suggested these anti-Yiannopoulos forces waited “until they could do the most damage to his career and to Breitbart, and by proxy, people like Trump and [Steve] Bannon,”

      Yeah? Good!

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I like how they blame Libtards working with establishment Republicans to bring poor Milo down. The people who released those videos were actually the “Reagan Battalion” who sound vaguely CPACish to me, but only because they’re a division of CPAC.

        • YourMom

          I’d never heard of the Reagan Battalion before… so using the Google, I checked. It has a FB page, a Twitter account and a website/blog. It appears new, with a homepage covered in links to conservative news websites, including some of the crazier “new media” conjecture models. It has only a few blog entries starting last month. But, already, the Trumpers have tabeled it a Democratic “front.” Apparently, it did jump into the election and endorse McMullin. Amusing. http://www.thereaganbattalion.com

          • Vagenda and Pee-ara

            I actually wish I could remember where I was earlier today that I was reading about them. They sounded like they’d been around for a while. According to the alt right, though, everything is a false flag operation meant to discredit them.

      • MynameisBlarney

        Golly…it’s almost as if he feels this is a bad thing.

      • timpundit

        Yeah…I was reading that and wondering if anyone sees this as a ‘negative’. I sure don’t.

      • Serai 1

        Because the gods know the GOP would NEVER stoop to coordinating attacks so as to inflict maximum damage!

    • puredog

      Actually, I find most of Marlow’s comments rather plausible. Well-done, anti-Milo trolls!

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        You think Democrats are working with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell now? The people who released the videos are “the Reagan Battalion” who are affiliated with CPAC. Sounds pretty conservative to me, even though Marlow would LOVE to blame Democrats.

        • YourMom

          Paul Ryan and the Turtle have gone to the darkest side—doing everything they can to appease the t-party mob for the last 8 years.

    • YourMom

      Actually, in the coming months, we are going to have to find some common ground with establishment Republicans…not that there’s a lot to find. But any shred of decency we can inject back into our system before DT and his mob shred it to pieces…..

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Gosh, someone waited for a time when they could inflict the maximum damage? I didn’t know James Comey hated Milo!

      • Vagenda and Pee-ara

        I wish Trump’s “pussy grabber” tape had been released the day after Comey’s letter.

  • Wild Cat

    Short Eyes Yiannopoulos gotta wipe those early Justin Bieber photos off his hard drives, yo!

  • MynameisBlarney

    Speakin’ of douchebags…
    Pics from the turmp rally.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028677513

    • MeerkatsRMammals

      Best pic? The lady(?) in the “Hot Chicks for Trump” pinned hat…lmao! She may in fact be the hottest chick in the trailer park…after a tornado…

      • MynameisBlarney

        I bet she’s “Summer Teeth”.

        Summer here’n summer there.

        She could eat corn through a picket fence.

        • MeerkatsRMammals

          Lmao 😅 I’ve never heard “summer teeth” before! I may have to use that!

      • BrianW

        Are you SURE that’s a woman? For a moment, I thought Willie Nelson had cleaned himself up a bit.

        • MeerkatsRMammals

          LOL! Yup, I wasn’t totally sure either, which is why I put that little (?) next to “lady”…

  • undercover epicurean

    The Line will Be Crossed once it happens to one-a them lady cops they gots nowadays.

    • Jennifer R

      I lack your faith in the system.

    • YourMom

      I was thinking the same thing as I read the article. It wasn’t quite clear, to me at least, that the article was saying there are clear laws addressing online harassment targeting LE but not women or just nothing clear, but the police find the resources to act if they are the target.

    • Serai 1

      She’ll be told to suck it up, too. Now, if it happens to the captain’s DAUGHTER, well…

  • Jgb979

    This is why my sliver of sympathy for Milo only extends so far: the hateful cesspool he’s been associated with are basically unchecked terrorists. Just because the letters are no longer being carefully cut and pasted together from magazines doesn’t make them any less crazy.

    What’s absolutely terrifying about all of this is that it all stemmed from some jilted ex deciding to publically crap on his girlfriend/game developer.

    • Serai 1

      I have no fucking sympathy for him at all. Yeah, maybe he went through some nasty shit as a kid, but that is not fucking excuse for being a rotten adult who laughs at the pain of others and thinks it’s funny to threaten people’s lives. He can go fuck himself, as far as I’m concerned. Some people the world does not need.

      • Pisto75666

        Sometimes natural selection is just too slow.

    • The Flaming Carrot

      Eron Gjoni should be tattooed with a warning sticker. Maybe we should get the chick from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo to do it.

    • Jilted ex doesn’t mean what you think it means.

  • Marceline

    “You want better laws? SHOW UP FOR THE GODDAMN MIDTERM ELECTIONS.”

    This needs to be said over and over.

  • Mahousu

    I can’t help but think there might be a better way to address concerns about ethics in video game journalism.

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    Yea, no offense to anybody, this is why I am not a free speech absolutist.

    • masked mumbler

      Yes, it’s sad how many people see their personal rights as absolute and supreme, when in reality their rights clash with other’s rights all the time. People have a right to not be afraid for their lives.

      • (((fka_donnie_d)))

        Absolutes and people do not mix. Absolutes belong in physics textbooks.

        • Serai 1

          The hard part is when you come across an absolute you believe in.

          • (((fka_donnie_d)))

            Other than (human) right to life snd “don’t be a dick” (golden rule), can’t think of any

      • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

        Also, that your character is what shows when you believe nobody knows who you are.

  • Alternative Pony Ron

    This is what happens when that childish ‘sticks and stones’ rhyme gets codified into law.

  • Jennifer R

    This is why we need more vigilantes.

  • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

    Five D. Feminist – another great article.

    I keep wondering why teh victims of gamergate and the sandy hook truthers won’t try a intentionl infliction of emotional distress action.
    No, it doesn’t put anybody in jail; no, these people have no money to begin with; but I feel like it would make a point.
    My notes from torts says the elements are 1) intentional or reckless 2) by extreme and outrageous conduct 3) of severe or emotional distress, even in the absence of physical harm.
    I’m guessing #2 is the hard part.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      I heard one of those story programs on NPR-about a man who had his life ruined in a small Georgia town. One woman pretending to be several different people accused him of pedophilia in an online chat forum. The reason? Somehow she had decided that he was responsible for the murder of his own partner by another individual. In anotherwards, she was nuts.
      The man who’d been victimized found an attorney who was willing to sue crazy malicious woman for defamation. She had no assets, but it cleared his name and sent a message to the community.
      When the radio show interviewed the attorney, he said this kind of defamation was incredibly common, and he had sued a lot of people. Also, that there are no anonymous on line commenters if someone has the money to find you.

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        Aye, that’s at terrifying thing. We learned in torts about at least 2 cases where people who had been defamed had to leave their jobs, move to a new city and start over (and not always with the job they had – i think one went from a public school teacher to a convenience store clerk. Now nothing bad about that job of course, but that’s not what is her passion, her training, and her certifications are for.

    • Fivedollarfeminist

      Mom, is that you????? 😉

      • TX Dept. of Space Tacos

        Lol…nope!

  • Warned_and_Persistent

    Ten more years of celibacy and these guys will all be on OKCupid desiring long walks on the beach, sharing fine wine and cuddling, while lying about their age.

    • Pisto75666

      Or on the evening news.

  • MeerkatsRMammals

    Story time… 20+ yrs ago, way back when I was a teenager & the interwebz hadn’t been invented by Al Gore yet. I befriended a boy who thought we were more than friends. I was home alone with my baby sister while my parents were out to dinner. This boy showed up at my house, drunk AF. Told me if I wasn’t gonna be his GF, he would wait till my parents got home, kill them & baby sis while making me watch. Then he’d kill me. Luckily, a friend called during all this. She decided to come over to “help”. This involved her running across the street to get the big, burly biker guy to chase the dirtbag away. When my parents got home & I told them what happened, we called cops. Cop said it was “just words” & unless he actually harmed me there was NOTHING they could do. I couldn’t even get a restraining order back then. Words matter. I’m still haunted by those words. Sometimes I’m still scared to be home alone. I love the conservatives are all concerned about “protecting women & girls” from bathrooms, but not actual, legitimate threats. This really pisses me off. TL;DR? When a woman (or anyone for that matter) is threatened in such a manner, it will fuck up her life. Let’s work on fixing that, huh?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I and my Chinese husband were constantly threatened by a neighbor with ‘Nam-era PTSD who had it in for Asians. The day he tried to break down the door the cops did come; they came back after a chase to tell us that they had caught him but “didn’t find the machete.”

      um.

      • MeerkatsRMammals

        Thanks. Wow! I’m so sorry you had to go through your thing there too. Jeebus! Hopefully that guy was put away somewhere or you guys moved. It’s a whole different level of attack when someone invades your home.

  • Pookabun

    For the record, Officer Friendly isn’t so hot at the non-cyber stuff either. I had a harasser/ stalker who lived in my building. I obviously knew exactly who he was and even got him on video. He was big, violent, had brain damage, had been in jail before and had a history of stalking and after a lot of hoo-ha with cops and courts, I had to move to end it. So it hasn’t surprised me at any stage that cyber harassment gets shrugged at.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Oh this is gonna bring ’em out for Dear Shit fer Brains.

  • Boscoe

    Good lord, Ben Stiller was a prophet! From 1992:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPSOGk7_zao

  • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

    Sad that the ability to actually go after anonymous dirtbags like these can be done, but it has to be done in civil court for stuff like defamation and copyright infringement, and it takes a ton of money.

  • JayGoldenBeach

    FBI too busy radicalising, entrapping and busting – and imprisoning – lone wolves.

    • Jeffery Campbell

      …and emails. Don’t ever forget the emails and yeah, and Anthony Wiener’s wiener.

  • DensityDestiny

    Great article, it was very enlightening. I followed Gamergate a bit. The whole thing turns my stomach.

  • I have quite enjoyed the 2+ years of butthurt over GG. Don’t let the door to the FBI offices hit you in the ass on the way out ;)

    • sgt. jmk of the résistance

      Was it about ethics in gaming journalism?

      • Juan de Fuca
      • It would have been, had the journos implicated in the scandal not dragged it into a culture war. The result of which set off a ripple effect of distrust in the corrupt press among formerly apolitical youth, and a greater distaste for moral authoritarians than there already was.

        There’s been a lot of handwringing over GG being related to the rise of Trump, and in certain ways this is true though the reasoning for it is as wrong as ever. Regardless, it amuses me that much of this could have been avoided had niche and mainstream journalism alike improved their ethical standards.

        • sgt. jmk of the résistance

          Ahhh yes… it would have been about ethics in gaming journalism and I’m sure that it could have been avoided by improving ethical standards in “niche and mainstream journalism” except for the one teeeeeeensy little bitty fact that the people who were upset about problems with ethics in gaming journalism didn’t harass, threaten, doxx, stalk, swat, and endlessly vilify the journalists who were allegedly trading good reviews for sex…no, those poor, misunderstood, totally normal little darlings focused their outrage over the lack of ethics in journalism on the women who had been the targets of this alleged extortion and any other woman who dared to speak up online about pretty much anything.

          So please… do me a favor – pull the other one… it’s got bells on.

          • And the other teensy little fact that both WAM and the FBI found no link connecting GG to harassment. The FBI found three people harasssing others that could be connected to GG in any way. Three people out of over a hundred thousand. THREE. I can find more harassers than that by orders of magnitude in feminism or BLM.

            All Kotaku had to do was say, “hey, we fucked up and will do better in the future.” But they didn’t do that. And we know from the GameJournoPros email leaks that they coordinated and covered it up so people wouldn’t look into the even worse shit they were up to, which in the end came out anyway.

            On top of that, Brianna Wu and Zoe Quinn were caught multiple times fabricating their own harassment. Brianna Wu on twitter and on Steam, Quinn with her old buddies from SomethingAwful forums and her buddies from CON as the leaked chatlogs showed. Anita was at least smart enough to keep her accusations vague enough to allow plausible deniability. Aside from that you had a couple randos that retracted their statements after a couple weeks.

            So in the end, the harassment narrative ending up holding no water, as the FBI report confirmed, and all it ended up doing was ruining the credibility of the press which had much farther reaching effects than any of them imagined.

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            No, cupcake. Your buffoonery will not stand…but thanks for missing the point of the article ON WHICH YOU FUCKING COMMENTED.

          • Won’t stand? What, pray tell, do you intend to do about it? You have no high ground. Moral, legal or otherwise. You’ve got no proof to back your claims, against the mountains of ours. All you have are a hand full of shills looking to make a buck off of your idiocy that bailed on this whole culture war you wanted to fight once the money dried up.

            So tell me, what DO you plan to do to stop this?

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            Well, I won’t engage in fuckwits like you who think they own the place, mistake their own pathetic self-high-fiving for “proof” of their “claims,” and blame victims for crimes.

            What “buck” am I making off of any of this – what “buck” makes up for hundreds of incidents of harassment and threats, for the fear that drives women out of their homes because some fucking knob wanted to get back at his ex-girlfriend and dozens of sad, self-impressed fuckwits like you backed him up?

            Fuck off, you pompous bigot. You and your sad little hero.

          • Yet here you are, continuing to engage me with your impotent rage. There was no harassment, the FBI proved that. None of these strong, independent, oppressed damsels fled their homes either. Wu “fled” to ComicCon where she immediately tweeted out her exact location, and Quinn “fled” to the European vacation she’d planned with her sugar daddy half a year prior. Such flee, much fear. Then they open up their patreons and suckers like you line up to pay.

            I’m a bit confused about your butthurt over the ex that exposed how she manipulated, abused and sexually assaulted him though. Do you show a similar level of outrage when women do the same thing?

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            So you didn’t read the article.

    • I Am Helpy

      You’re gonna die alone, fedora.

    • Jennaratrix

      It’s so cute how you think that’s a good troll.

      0/10, would not read again.

    • Someday you might get laid, keep dreamin!

      • I don’t think a keyboard anarchist has any room to talk about others getting laid, fam.

  • o’look Skwerl!

    I just reread the court on Elonis v. United States, 135 S. Ct. 2001 (2015) and I do agree with the decision. Elonis did not specifically threaten anybody although his posts were seen as a general threat.

    Now this does not mean that the Gamergate folks did not cross the line. Setting up a Craigslist ad and many of those other acts represent true threats that are meant/were to be carried out and are not protected speech.

    • Idk, it looked pretty pointedly directed to his ex to me. AND to cops and sherifs also, too.

  • I Am Helpy

    Just a reminder that Valve thinks this is appropriate:

    http://store.steampowered.com/app/585550/

    • I Am Helpy

      There’s a little flag icon down in the bottom right where you can inform them that this game is inappropriate. Dunno if it’ll work, but ffs.

      • I gave it a try. I chose hate speech as my reason. Seemed most reasonable, even though they are carefully couching this a reverse hate speech..

        • I Am Helpy

          Thank you.

          I am actually tempted to write a dating sim called “FEDORA DIES ALONE”, where you play your choice of the player classes Gamer Gater, MRA, or PUA and try to get dates. It would not actually be possible to succeed. Too abstract?

    • HazooToo

      From a review by someone who bought and played the game.

      “It’s not satire. It’s not fun. It’s just… and I hate this word…
      MEMES crammed into one game, some pretty old ones. People who this game
      ridicules (sjw, feminazi) are never this extreme (my experience). This
      games purpose is not hate speech but I can see someone hating this kind
      of people (feminazis, etc) a bit more after playing it.
      ie. I think
      people will judge feminazi sjws on memes and this game instead of
      actual… people. Sorry if I haven’t expressed myself well.”

      I’d say that person expressed themselves pretty well, actually.

  • Thorn Spike

    Hardly seems like a game, does it?

    • Scrofula

      A lot of 13 yo on 4chan seem to think so.

  • Scrofula

    Carrie Goldberg, from a New Yorker article; she’s a lawyer for women harrassed by “revenge porn” and other cyber shenanigans (add a whip and you’ve got Wonkette):
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/29bde9df8e796e7c0bc718f4d73bdf9336c8ef543e669f7332bdd9630de104a5.jpg

  • Zyxomma

    “Women pay an extra “harassment tax” to participate in the online world,” Indeed, women pay an extra “harassment tax” to participate in the WORLD.

    • I work with a lot of good old boys who like to call me sweetie and darling and whatever else.
      I think I am going to start demanding they do my dishes for that right.

      • Jeffery Campbell

        I would like to think you are returning the favor by calling them “honey” and “lit bit”, and “junior” or other amusing, diminutive sobriquet. Because you do not have to put up with that shit.

    • I was going to say the same thing. Theoretically, there’s at least laws to protect us in the offline world — but realistically, when some future POTUS grabs you by the pussy on the bus or screams in your face that you’re a fat ugly dyke that should be raped and shot because you politely turned him down, there’s A) no cop around when it happens and B) you get accused of overreacting if you do happen to find one and report it (and if the guy’s a stranger, he’s gone and there’s no finding him anyway.) So mostly you just suck it up, hope the latest one is just a creep instead of a killer or a rapist, and go back to life in a country where that guy can be president but a woman can’t.

  • Moar Wordz

    BigUp to Wonkette for creating this article !!! I threw up in my mouth while reading of local cops cluelessness and shruggin’, and of the F.B.I’s refusal in Boston to prosecute. I noted that F.B.I did actually record over and over again instances of the Gamergate harassers, threats of violence, and online stalking. Sickening , sad

  • Moar Wordz

    So if RBG is ” Our only hope ” – ‘ Don’t get too excited – LOL, can newspapers and online news sites pleaz for the love of God keep running this story w/ all it’s blatant misogyny and dropping the ball by key law enforcement ?! The F.B.I started an investigation ( apparently ) and then didn’t prosecute. Because if logging however many instances of egregious online harassment and abuse isn’t the start of an investigation then what is it ?!?
    ” O.K, we’ll look into this then bury our heads in the sand or up our asses? ”
    The Boston D.A ‘s office has a Cybercrime unit ” under the auspices ” of the F.B.I
    ( How do I know that ? OH, NO REASON. Cough. Retch, choke. )
    It’s called the IC3 unit.
    It’s EMBARASSING that the Boston unit went all limp dick on Gamergate abusive trolls.
    Travesty of justice.

  • THANK YOU, WONKETTE! I have such a hard time explaining why this kind of thing is even a problem. Like graphically threatening people online is just some kind of awesome hobby that doesn’t really harm anyone, or something. It is enough to really make you regret having a penis, or at least conclude that many of those who have one clearly think too highly of it and probably shouldn’t have one…

    • Moar Wordz

      Hobby or compulsion ? Sociopathy.
      I read your online handle three or four times trying to make sense of it.
      “Vagend- ( Vagina ! He means Vagina ! ) Deance ” – revenge of the veneris mons ! Coldener – hmmmm- coldener What’sit mean ? COLD VENGEANCE OF THE 🐱. With a smoking barrel, amirite?!?!

      • Moar Wordz

        Also, 2, I regret having a 🐱 when I keep reading in the news of all the hate crimes against women. Battered, chopped to peices and tossed, sex trafficking, sexual harassment in the work place. Acid thrown on face. Gang rape. Pashtun ” honor ” killings and mutilations. Online bullying of women. These Gamergate pukes.GOP getting all up in our Biznass at the GYN.
        ” What war against women ? ”
        If being a feminist means I want this insanity to STOP then sign me up.

      • Yes. It was an attempt to keep some vestige of my old handle to keep from totally confusing everyone.

  • Usedtobeyellerdawg

    Don’t worry so much! Any day now, Melon is going to reveal her campaign against online bullying.

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