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Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee dropped this turd in President Barry Bamz Obama’s punchbowl this week:

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If you cannot embiggen, that letter is from Senators Ron Wyden, Jack Reed, Mark Warner, Barbara Mikulski, Martin Heinrich, Angus King and Mazie Hirono. Here’s what it says:

Dear Mr. President:

We believe there is additional information concerning the Russian Government and the U.S. election that should be declassified and released to the public. We are conveying specifics through classified channels.

Signed, EVERYBODY AND THEIR MOM. As Mother Jones notes, the only Democratic senator on the intelligence committee missing from the letter is Dianne Feinstein, but The Atlantic reports that she signed the classified version of the letter. But huh! Very interesting that they released this vague public version of the letter too! It’s almost like they’re like “Oh yeah, FBI dickface Jim Comey? We can write letters too, you know!”

And lots of people really would like to know what kinda juicy espionage-type stuff the government is sitting on. Republican Sen. Susan Collins is on the Intelligence committee too, and she’s kinda sane sometimes, so we bet she’d like to know, even if she’s not willing to sign a public letter like that, because “Republican.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham, also a Republican, has publicly called for an investigation, noting that it’s the right thing to do, even if it helped the GOP side this time. Similarly, Democratic Rep. Elijah Cummings has been making noise for a month now about an investigation, and said Republican asshole Hillary-investigatin’ Rep. Jason Chaffetz told him he’d be open to an investigation, but UM WE ARE ALL STILL WAITING.

WHAT DO WE KNOW RIGHT NOW? Well! We know Russia hacked the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s emails, and proceeded to leaky leak them to Wikileaks. We know Russia participated in spreading fake news all over the place, but hell, so did Donald Trump and Macedonian fake news shops and fucking Facebook. We know a limited amount of investigative reporting on actual links between the Russian government and Donald Trump, even including the possibility that the Russians have been cultivating Trump as an asset for YEARS.

We also know that the way Donald Trump talks about Vladimir Putin, it’s statistically likely that he wants Putin to romance him, in his bottom.

WHAT DO WE NOT KNOW? Has James Comey’s FBI uncovered insane, explosive information like outgoing Sen. Harry Reid alleged before the election? If you’ll remember, the intelligence community said, conclusively, that Russia had meddled in the election. Comey wouldn’t sign that letter, probably because he’s a Trump-supporting pussy. President Obama has publicly made that accusation as well, as has the head of the NSA.

It’s recently been reported, by computer scientists and also Edward Snowden (one’s opinion of him doesn’t matter right now) that hacking of state election systems is indeed possible. Is there evidence that it actually happened? Does the government have conclusive evidence that Trump and Putin’s government colluded before the election? What kinda dirty details did these senators just send to Obama through classified channels?

Look, we get it. If secret information is released that proves that yes, Russia fucking did hack into our election process and/or engage in other psy ops in order to get Donald Trump elected, it sure enough might undermine public confidence in American elections. But we’d much rather that happen, and have that lead to real reforms that ensure the integrity of the process, even if it means trust has to rebuilt, than to let America sit idly by, naively trusting in something that is, in point of fact, untrustworthy, especially when we’re about to inaugurate as president a tiny-handed autocrat like Donald Trump, who stands to put far more of our cherished American institutions at risk than merely our electoral process. (He just might fuck that up more too!)

DO IT OBAMA, SHOW US THE GOODS, AND BY “GOODS” WE DON’T MEAN YOUR CROTCH ROCKET, WE MEAN ALL THE EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT HAS ON WHAT RUSSIA DID TO OUR ELECTION, BUT YOU CAN SHOW US THE CROTCH ROCKET TOO IF YOU WANT.

But mostly the Russian stuff, because we kinda like need to know.

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  • Scooby

    All I know is that when I voted there were Borscht stains all over the voting machines.

    • Shibusa

      Those high-tech voting machines can’t be beet.

  • goonemeritus

    I am sure Darrell Issa will be holding investigations into this serious breach of our sovereignty.

    • Hutch

      There’s some obloquy in there somewhere!

  • Hutch

    The plot thickens!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    As Mother Jones notes, the only Democratic senator on the intelligence committee missing from the letter is Dianne Feinstein

    “DAFUQ?!?”

    – state of California

    • Yr. Gma

      But she signed the “official” one.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        True, but she would pay ZERO political punishment for going public FFS. Her centrism might have been necessary in the ’90’s but NOT today, not in this state.

        • Yr. Gma

          I’m gonna give the old gal a pass. One old gal to another.

    • Jennifer R

      Maybe she is too busy for the symbolic side?

  • Mayor_Mayor_Mayor
  • I’m pretty sure no one in charge of the two parties really cares about the integrity of the elections, or they wouldn’t drag them out for two fucking years, let unlimited shadow money funnel into the races, and generally run them in a manner guaranteed to turn off half of the voting population, make it impossible for third parties to win, and guarantee that most of the fuckwits in Congress get reelected despite Congress having lower approval ratings than herpes and the goddamned plague.

    Having the Russians pick our leader is probably the less corrupt option.

    • JMP

      It is impossible for third parties to win; and anyone who cares about the integrity of our elections should always want to minimize the importance of those stupid spoiler-wannabe wankers.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson
      • TJ Barke

        Thank you.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      The oft-cited approval rating for Congress is meaningless. People don’t vote for Congress — they vote for their particular Congresscritter, who ordinarily enjoys fairly high approval ratings in his or her district. A three (or more)-way race doesn’t change that.

      • Historicat

        Thank you! This x 10,000

  • JMP

    Of course even though we know all this hacking, leaks and misinformation, came from Russia, it doesn’t stop the wingnuts (along with the Greenwald-style fauxgressives who hate Hillary Clinton and are celebrating Trump’s “win” because it allows them to play I-told-you-so) from denying it, because they don’t give a shit about facts; they’ll just yell that Russia had nothing to do with it, despite the reams of evidence proving that and call caring about the actual actions of Russia today “new McCarthyism” because they don’t give a shit about history either.

    • Meccalopolis

      Sad about greenwald

      • Zyxomma

        Really.

  • Shibusa

    http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/blogs/gettyimages-466585604.jpg?itok=5XOmGCYq
    Vlad at Trump Tower, to give thumbs up or down to the Secretary of State candidates.

    • Anna Rompage

      Giant human nutcrackers open the door for a very short Russian leader, in a oversized palace, that has 16′ tall doors, and was built for a society made up of 10′ tall people…

      • Jennifer R

        Russia is in for some dark times once Putin kicks it. That power vacuum is going to be like a black hole.

        • Resistance Fighter Callyson

          I’m praying for Pussy Riot. Although, after this election, I am losing what’s left of my faith FFS…

        • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

          When does that happen? I want to schedule the party.

          • Jennifer R

            Well no one as well positioned as him doesn’t have enemies at every corner. He is in his late 60s yes? Sooner or later he will get tired of looking for glass in his oatmeal.

          • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

            Castro made it to 90. So that’s not very encouraging.

          • Jennifer R

            Castro led a ground up revolution, Putin was head of the KGB and inherited a country roughly a million times the size and much more difficult to manage.

          • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

            I hope what you’re trying to say is that he’s under more stress because otherwise I don’t get the point. People live longer these days.

          • Jennifer R

            My point is that there are roughly 240 million more people who live near him who want him dead. Also people liked castro, they merely fear putin.

          • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

            Got it.

        • Slavakitty

          Maybe he’ll suffocate on his own blood like his predecessor Stalin. Stalin died young-ish because his underlings were too terrified to call in a doctor to treat him, so in the end, it was his own tyranny that did him in.

          • Jennifer R

            I have to assume all the underlings would salivate at the chance to watch pooty strangle on his own tongue from a seizure. After all that means their is promotion in the future.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    And in an OT but not really OT tweet:

    https://twitter.com/drskyskull/status/796916965956874241

    • Jamoche

      This is something children of abusive parents already know. They gaslight you with “It’s not them, it’s you. You did something wrong. You have to be more understanding and put aside your feelings about it.” Well, fuck that.

      • Lizzietish81

        Yesssss, that was why it was annoying me so much, but I couldn’t put a finger on it.

      • Filthy

        “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.” – Abe Lincoln

        “Grab them by the pu**y” – Donald Trump

        This is what the once-proud Republican Party has come to. Teddy Roosevelt is rolling in his grave!

        Newsflash – AMERICA IS DOING BETTER THAN EVER. RECORD unemployment numbers, legalized gay marriage, 5% growth, best year for jobs since 1999, consumer confidence up, deficit down 60% in 2014, gas prices low, health insurance cheaper than ever ($85/month), car insurance cheaper than ever ($25 per month from Insurance Panda), the 1% starting to be taxed more!

        I can’t wait for this 4 year night mare to be over!

        • JCfromNC

          Wooo! Insurance Panda on TWO threads today, with uniquely-worded posts! And both under the same name!I don’t know who wrote that bot, but I’m impressed.

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            Jeez – this guy again? He spammed us with that panda shit about a year ago, and got hisself banned. Flag it, and Doc or Shy will take care of it.

    • JMP

      What really pisses me off are all the assholes claiming that this means no liberals should ever call racists racist ever again, because it makes the poor bigots’ feelings hurt or something.

  • Vincent Ricola

    Sure wish this could’ve been proactively dealt with sometime in July before Russia launched their fatal blow orange assault strike on November 8th.

    Better late than never, though, I’m ready to dig through some security data and this gonna get good if Obama complies.

  • JMP

    Mr. President, The Electoral College meets Dec. 19, so while it probably won’t do any good it would be nice to have the information by then.

    • Zyxomma

      I second that emotion.

  • TJ Barke

    Go Ron Wyden go!

  • SuspectedDemocrat

    Congressional Republicans get all their evidence from their Facebook feeds anyway. Remember the Planned Parenthood chart showing abortion profits?

  • Wild Cat

    I’m gettin’ confused. You mean the Russkies sold us their own rope for our pathetic proles to hang themselves with?

  • XtremeFeministRodeoQueen MLG

    Is it wrong I would really rather Obama save us by killing the dark horror which lives on Trump’s head in a televised sword fight in the Rose Garden?

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      If that’s wrong, I don’t want to be right. Love the new username!

      • XtremeFeministRodeoQueen MLG

        Thank you!

    • Jennifer R

      It will be like Utena, except instead of fighting over who gets to own anthy it’s over lady liberty.

    • Wild Cat

      I’d rather see Obama just walk away from the WH and leave the neo-nazi stranded on his own.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    By the way (and mind the auto-play):

    Hillary Clinton Now Leads Donald Trump by Over 2.5 Million Votes

    She has a wider margin in the popular vote than 10 presidents had.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43f4b3112b5b48970472951c7ad26a5bee0037295ea07bf71275d6e82f443536.jpg

    • cmd

      I also read that her margin between the 3 recount states is down to around 80,000 total. For some reason PA is a much narrower margin that previously reported. This is before the recounts. DAMN.

      • JMP

        And the margin is lower in these states than the number of votes that Jill Stein got in them – and no, pushing for these recounts to get attention will not absolve her of putting Trump in office. How did we not learn the lessons of 2000 when Nader elected Bush?

        • OrG

          Supreme Court elected bush.

          • Zyxomma

            Selected. Selected. Nobody elected Shrub. I never referred to him as President Bush, just Resident Bush. I should have followed George Carlin’s lead and just called him Governor, since he was actually elected to that position in TX.

        • cmd

          I just keep hoping somewhere there will be a Hallmark Christmas Miracle, although probably won’t happen. And it’s probably even worse that it’s so close, unless the recount turns up something.

      • Zyxomma

        It’s younger sister’s fault. She didn’t vote, so I am projecting (!!) that she is representative of a certain class of college educated professionals who swallowed 30 years’ Republican talking points. I told her I blame her for Trump, and I meant it.

    • Bill D. Burger

      I actually saw one person on a local news outlet say, “The liberals will try to make it impossible for Mr. Trump to govern, even though he was given a mandate on election night.”

      Goddamnitandfuckalmighty! __ Words almost fail. Secondarily, she seemed to suggest that Trump wouldn’t get all the cooperation from Democrats that the Republicans gave Obama.
      Goddamnitandfuckalmighty! These willfully ignorant and just plain damned stupid MoFos are beyond belief. It’s just best to point at them and laugh.
      .

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        The liberals will try to make it impossible for Mr. Trump to govern

        I fucking hope so–that’s the one chance this planet has to survive this crap!

      • Verena Block

        I think Trump will indeed get all the cooperation from Democrats that the Republicans gave Obama. Sadly, they don’t have a majority in either house to make their obstructionism worthwhile.

      • cat cafe

        The weird thing is the sheer disinformation that they operate from. It’s like they’re in a parallel universe. If only they didn’t have to drag us down with them.

      • mailman27

        I didn’t see that particular newscast, but I can just about guaran-fucking-tee that the “news” person didn’t point out any “facts” that contradicted that “lie.”

  • elviouslyqueer

    I would suggest that Jason Chaffetz go fuck himself, but I know one guy who can actually do that, and I doubt he and Chaffetz have met.

  • John Iwaniszek

    …and most of us have already seen crotch rockets.

  • Clyde Barrow

    Exposing Russia’s meddling in the election might encourage investigations into other countries meddling in our past elections. Like Israel, for instance.

    The plutocrats will be sweeping all this under the rug.

    • Wild Cat

      We’ve destabilized the world. Sadly, it’s payback time. Chickens comin’ home to roost and all that . . .

  • Anna Rompage

    OT

    David Betrayus’s conditions of probation….

    The defendant shall notify the probation officer within 72 hours of any change in residence or employment,

    The defendant shall not leave the Western District of North Carolina
    without the permission of the Court or probation officer. Travel allowed
    for work as approved by U.S. probation office.

    This might very well be the first time a Secretary of State, or any major dept head has been under supervision of the probation dept…

    • XtremeFeministRodeoQueen MLG

      No, David. Please go right ahead and leave western North Carolina. We have an asshole surplus as it is.

  • Randy Riddle

    The Trumpettes and the GOP will simply ignore it and nothing would happen. If nothing else, Barry’s release of this info would let the citizens of US allies get a better idea of what Russia’s probably up to in several countries. It would be one of several gifts he could leave the world before the next administration dismantles his entire legacy.

  • calliecallie

    Sheeple, this is just playing into Obummer’s hands. He’s going to wait until the last minute, reveal the Russian meddling, declare the election null and void, and stay in office for another four years. Wake up!

    • Ezio Auditore

      Sheeple is a fun word that has been co-opted by right wing conspiracy theorists.

      • Oblios_Cap

        The alt-alt right?

        • Ezio Auditore

          Instead of saying “grammar nazi” maybe people should say “alt-write”.

          • 333tenant

            ftw

    • AntiDerpomeme

      I find your conspiracy theories easy to fap to and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    • Anna Rompage

      mindless, mooching, gay loving, commie, sheeple cucks, who have been drinking the Kool Air from the foreign born Muslim in chief…

    • OrG

      I’m cool with that.

    • Bill Slider

      We should be so lucky.

    • Nodrama4mama

      I would be down for that! Or maybe he can Annex us over to Canada, so we can have have Justin Trudeau sexytimes.

      We’ve been good troopers, here’s Trudeau with baby pandas

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e56fbb328d95fb3c5fd7e2762dc07985cd6e116f2b057f004affbc105effdb6.jpg

  • Ezio Auditore

    I propose another Rocky and Bullwinkle movie with Trump as “fearless leader” with Kellyanne as Natasha and Pence as Boris.

    • OrG

      Who plays Rocky and Bullwinkle?

      • Anna Rompage

        Obama & Biden….

      • Ezio Auditore

        Obama as Rocky
        Joe as Bullwinkle

  • Oblios_Cap

    You mean the Rooskies crawled out of their vodka bottles long enough to meddle in our political process? Unpossible!

  • Beowoof14

    Come on man, Barry you know Vlad wants to fuck with you and you know Trump is a whiny little bitch who would take every opportunity to grift from the government. Let’s get the information out there so people will know how badly they’ve been screwed over by Trump, Vlad and the republicans. Maybe it will do some good.

    • Jennaratrix

      You’re so optimistic; I don’t think it would do a damn bit of good. Trumpeteers don’t care. They’ve made that very clear. He’s racist, sexist, a con artist who doesn’t pay his taxes or his bills, he lusts after his daughter, he allegedly raped at least one 13-year-old girl, he publicly praises Putin, made fun of a disabled person on camera, invited hackers to fuck up the election, asked “2nd Amendment people” to shoot Hillary – all of these things were well-known before the election, and the people who voted for him either don’t believe any of it, or don’t care. If the FBI and a bi-partisan group of every single politician in Washington EXCEPT Trump and his inner circle provided conclusive proof that Russia manipulated the election to make sure Trump won – proof so conclusive that it couldn’t be brushed off – these same people would say “Oh well, I don’t care because Trump won.”

      • Nodrama4mama

        Once they start losing their medicare and insurance, they might start to care a little bit.

      • Beowoof14

        Those of us who voted for HRC, latest reading 2.5 million more people, have to fight back every step of the way. Tina Dupuy wrote an interesting article today on fighting back, that we should get organized and proceed forward in the fight against RW Cheetolini. Here is a link to that article: https://medium.com/@tinadupuy/so-we-elected-an-autocrat-what-to-do-now-ad948665e96d#.2fsp6k10v

        • Zyxomma

          Thanks for that.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        But maybe the Electors will care. Or maybe it will Democrats a stronger position to resist the coming destruction of our country, and help us hold out for 2018 and 2020.

  • cheetojeebus

    Good people, smart people, very intelligent people say that Comey whimpers quietly as he’s rubbin’ one out while looking at pictures of KKK rallies.

    • DainBramage the BBROYGBVGW

      I read it on the interwebs, so it must be true.

    • cat cafe

      Is that before or after Vlad rams it in?

      • H0mer0

        ew!

  • calliecallie

    You know who else was troubled by interference from the Russians?

    • MynameisBlarney

      Rasputin?

    • Nockular cavity

      Czechoslovakia? Hungary?

      • Oblios_Cap

        Don’t forget Poland!

    • elviouslyqueer

      Trixie Tundratwat?

    • cheetojeebus
    • JMP

      The WOLVERINES!!?

    • Lithuania?

    • eggsacklywright

      General Jack D. Ripper.

    • John Smith

      American porn stars and escorts?

    • Spurning Beer

      The International Olympic Committee?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Jack Ryan?

    • phoenix00

      HAM radio operators?

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      Bullwinkle and Rocky?

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      The Ukraine?

    • cat cafe

      Alan Arkin?

  • Bill D. Burger
    • major_asshole

      If we’re going to compare those three to Blanche, Rose, and Dorothy, then it goes:

      Rose the Idiot: Trump
      Blanche the Slut: Pence
      Dorothy the Smart One: Putin

      • H0mer0

        wudabout F*ck-marry-kill?

  • JVisconti

    That borscht, bliny and stroganoff is featured on today’s Senate lunchroom menu is telling.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Real reform? From this Congress?

  • Cheesus Crust _ Rebel

    We’re still assuming any of these people give a shit. I mean, most of ’em were tripping over each other to put out “unity statements” and promises to “work with” our incoming dictator.

    Sorry, still feeling very, very dark.

    • snark-lurker

      BO wont do squat & neo-libs ahr wit him: donut make waves better to slide this handover of power into US smoothly with full coopteration bekuz reazons sumthing reazons

  • JD Mulvey

    I worked at the Multnomah County, Oregon, elections office, and our system cannot be hacked because the entire thing is documented and transparent. There’s always a paper ballot. Anyone can check our numbers, and anyone –ie, mostly angry old white guys who hate the gubment –can come in and watch every single ballot get checked/counted/rechecked by teams of people who are watching the ballots (and each other).

    Which is yet another of the eleventy-thousand reasons for the whole country to finally join us in voting by mail.

    https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-calls-for-national-vote-by-mail-to-fight-back-against-new-barriers-to-voting

    • OrG

      What you see as a feature,republicans see as a bug.

    • shoeflyin

      All states need to do this. My state is all electronic, no paper trail. I don’t know how it would be audited?

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        That no paper trail no back up thing is insane.

      • Courser

        Being a kinda-sorta accounting-data-puke, I’m sure there actually is an audit trail but it’s not going to look anything like something that average folks can understand. Basically, it’s done with hashes and other markers that will indicate if data is dropped or bad.

        Not that I expect that to be reassuring to many people. And there’s always the one-in-a-million chance someone managed to do a seemless hack. But it’s not likely.

      • JD Mulvey

        Yeah, that’s a problem! Every scrap of paper we get –reg cards, ballots, etc. –is scanned and coded for future retrieval, plus everything is archived (for 10 years, I think?). One of my last tasks a couple of weeks ago was bundling up thousands of dogeared envelopes so that some future auditor (i.e., nobody, ever) could hypothetically go back and check them.

        Maybe Trump will challenge Hillary’s 76% showing here! It would probably gall him except that he’s probably never heard of Oregon.

      • Zyxomma

        That’s bad news. All electronic, no paper trail, is ripe for hacking or other electronic fraud.

    • Courser

      Same here.On last evening’s local news, they shadowed a guy who wanted to see exactly how his vote was counted. The County Clerk very nicely showed him his vote in the system. I think he was a bit miffed that he couldn’t actually see how he cast his ballot, but he left pretty happy.

      • JD Mulvey

        The folks who tour our office often start out grumpy and by the end are really grateful and complementary to us. It’s very rare for somebody to spend any time observing and still go away thinking there’s fraud going on.

        • BillEGoatSmirk

          My mother was the Town Clerk in my hometown in rural CT for 27 years. Nobody, but nobody, screwed around with polling places or the counting of ballots. No shenanigans. There was an elected Registrar of Voters for each party to oversee the machines and the absentee ballots. And any yahoo could come watch a recount, for example, but they had to abide by the election laws of the State of CT. (i.e., how close they could be to the officials doing the counting.) Mom had no problem calling the Secretary of State’s ‘enforcers’ if anything was amiss. She would never have risked her reputation as a person, or as an elected official by certifying results that had even the smallest hint of a problem.

        • C4TWOMAN

          I’m starting to suspect there’s a type of “Dunning Kruger” thing going on. In that case people untrained and unfamiliar with a skill or subject, imagine they are more competent than the actually are. Once the have training, their perceptions correct to closely match reality.

          In this case not seeing the process leads these people to imagine all sorts of shenanigans. But once they have information, they can calm down.

          The implications of an uninformed public with out of control fears cannot be underestimated.

    • C4TWOMAN

      Serious question: we knew a guy who used to volunteer either to count ballots or for the democratic party elections, possibly both. He claimed to be liberal, but years later it was confirmed he was an anti-semite alt-right operative, in that he would volunteer for progressive causes and shit to get access(currently on Facebook he’s bragging about voting for Trump). He was caught running several scams with Nazi apologists, including inviting racist speakers and trying to pass them off as “radicals” or “persecuted” to the less informed alternative progressive community.

      My question: do you know exactly how much information someone like that could access? Or how much damage they could do?

      • JD Mulvey

        Here, the process is split in two. First, a ballot comes in, it’s in a sealed envelope with a bar code and their signature on the outside. The signature is checked and rechecked against the one we have on file. There are also backups to see if they’ve cast another ballot somewhere. Only once a ballot is checked is it actually opened.

        These ballots, minus the identifying envelope, then get forwarded into a closed-universe area where they’re scanned and counted. The computers in that area are walled off from the internet and behind a foot of concrete, and when the results are being spit out, the Director physically walks them out of the room on a cleaned USB drive, which is then shared with the State and the media.

        Every step of the way, there are people double checking, so nobody’s ever making any decision alone. Many functions, they’ll actually require that there’s at least one registered Democrat and one Republican watching the whole thing –so if there’s a question about a signature, or if who they’re trying to vote for is a little unclear, those are determined by multiple people of different parties.

        And the whole time, there are grumpy looking members of the public behind plexiglass watching. They also have monitors that show them the exact same thing that each of us is seeing on our computers.

        There are also security cameras everywhere in the building. We’re working on getting all that video streaming online in real time, but haven’t got that dialed in yet.

        So if your person tried screwing with a hardcopy of something, he’d be spotted almost instantaneously. He’d have to be very high up in the organization to even have access to anything in data form.

        A couple of years ago there was somebody in our neighboring county who tried to doctor votes. Naturally she was a Republican, and she was caught filling in undervotes –so if somebody voted for Obama and left the rest of the ballot blank, she’d fill in the bubbles for Republican candidates down ballot. Several people sitting next to her caught her immediately.

        • C4TWOMAN

          Excellent. And thanks for the reply. Very informative.

          Now I can feel warm and fuzzy imagining this jackass’ frustration at not being able to fuck with anything….

          *purrrrrrrrrr*

          • cat cafe

            *scritches C4TWOMAN’s ears*

          • C4TWOMAN

            *PPURRRRRRRRRRR*

          • HooverVilles

            Ceiling cat likes!
            >^o.o^<

          • H0mer0

            now will ceiling cat stop watching me masturbate?

        • cat cafe

          Would this be viable nationwide, do you think? Because it’s exactly what we should do.

          • JD Mulvey

            I’m not sure why not. People here would never go back, so once in place it’s extremely popular. One impact I always appreciate is that once you have a few weeks to fill out your ballot, the lesser-known items seem to get more discussion –so I’ll see people post questions on social media about fairly obscure ballot measures and offices.

            We no longer have to squeeze in filling out a long ballot between a trip to the supermarket or whatever, which is great. People actually talk about these things! (We’re Oregonians, though, so we tend to talk about the minutia of public policy anyway…)

            One other argument that I find pretty compelling is that most states allow absentee balloting –so, in effect, they’re running an optional vote-by-mail system already, and every year more people take advantage of this option. Why do two parallel systems? Even fiscal conservatives ought to see the benefit of eliminating polling places, just based on the cost factor alone –though I’m sure they won’t.

          • cat cafe

            That’s wonderful. I live in L.A., in fact in the Hollywood Hills/Los Feliz area, and just read that our neighborhood, in particular, had an almost 70% turnout (almost all for Hillary), and all of us, also, discussed all the propositions (we had several million of them) and the different judges and down-ballot elections. Very proud! When we create a nation state, it’ll be so much better here with our three left-coast states.

  • Msgr_Moment

    “But that would require us tattling about how James Comey is being paid by the Kremlin, and that would spoil our criminal case.”

  • Wild Cat

    So the neo-nazi’s Secret Service code word is going to be “Boris and Natasha”?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Pretty sure that’s actually the SS code names for you-know-who.

  • Thiazin Red

    Jack Reed makes me feel bad that my signature looks shitty.

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      Are you a doctor?

      • H0mer0

        [I would retort libel because of my beautiful signature, but I’ll allow it]

  • Lefty Frizzell

    In Russia, election interferes with you!

    • Courser

      This one sure fucked me over.

    • cat cafe

      In Soviet Russia, channels classify YOU!

  • Jamoche

    https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA16-336A
    Avalanche (crimeware-as-a-service infrastructure)

    Aside: Can we kill “as-a-service” yet?

    • phoenix00

      not if the stuffed suits don’t

  • whitroth

    Didn’t I call Trumpolini the Moscovian Candidate weeks ago?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      ALL CREDIT TO WONKETTE MUST CREDIT WONKETARIAT

    • H0mer0

      I called him the Kremlin Kandidate, but yours is more similar to the original book title

  • Courser

    This makes my day! I’m composing a letter (yes, a real, honest-to-God paper letter that I will send in the US of America Mail) to my Senator, Michael Bennet and this is exactly what I’m trying to get at but didn’t know the words! Or even what to ask for.

    This is awesome. Bamz should dooooo eeeettt NOW!

  • fawkedifiknow

    Hey Barry, if you don’t, the Trump Administration surely will!!

    Ha, ha, ha. That’s a shitty attempt at sarcasm.

  • Cogswell – User of the wheel

    I want to know why it is only 7.

    • An Outhouse for the Resistance

      You could have been drinking since noon.

  • KnaveOfSwords

    Honestly, between this, and the fact that both major party candidates (and Jill Stein) have been maknig noises about irregularities in the election, Obama should throw the weight of the presidency behind addressing both the allegations of Russian interference, questions of voter fraud, etc. Talking about respecting the office of the presidency and not undermining confidence in the electoral process isn’t working. It’s time to move on to “there’s concerns, we’re investigating, and we’ll address whatever we find.”

    • Courser

      Jesus, they’re only waking up now? I’ve known that making nice is not going to save our country since The Morning After (I think I’ll call it that from now on)

      • H0mer0

        nuh uh! Don’t you remember in “Stir Crazy” in which Gene Wilder made nice with the harshest of inmates and became buddies and they were able to defeat the evil warden?

    • kev

      It is my belief based upon nothing but my understanding of human nature that O has quietly brought all the resources of the CIC to bear and if there is ‘actionable’ stuff unearthed, it will be dealt with.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    For the good of the country, whatever doubts we have, we must give my successor a chance to succeed.
    — Kurt von Schleicher

    Nice try, but no, goddamit.
    — Godwin

    • cat cafe

      “Let’s just let him have Czechoslovakia. Who cares about them, and it’ll keep him happy. What could go wrong?”

  • Bitter Scribe

    Does anyone think the Republican response will be anything other than “nyah nyah suck it”?

    • phoenix00

      “Russia hacking is a good thing since the good guys won!”

      • HooverVilles

        Just one more example of IOKIYAR.

    • Husband Of Mrs God

      In seriousness although we’re waiting for President Obama’s response, the info might compromise methods, sources, or capabilities. Maybe people are working on the safe presentation now.
      Now I’m trying to say something and all I can think of is phrases that sound violent. Here we go: It’s not enough to implicate Herr Drumpf, as that still leaves the big villains in power. We need to get our country back from them.

    • mailman27

      Still, we need to stop the clock on this bullshit & have something on the record to point back to.

  • Paperless Tiger

    It’s been a long time since anyone was conquered by the Macedonians. Maybe we do need a security review.

  • phoenix00

    Come on everyone, let’s chant!

    CROTCH ROCK-ET
    CROTCH ROCK-ET
    CROTCH ROCK-ET
    CROTCH ROCK-ET

    • Husband Of Mrs God

      TO RUSSIA!
      Thanks, Ramones.

    • cat cafe

      I know! Forget the other stuff! CROTCH ROCK-ET!!!

    • H0mer0

      [as a self loathing descendant of the Indian Sub Continent, whenever I meet someone with the surname “Moore,” I think about the scene in “A Passage to India” when the gallery in the courtroom starts chanting “Meeseese Moore!”]

      • Roadstergal

        “The tumult increased, the invocation of Mrs. Moore continued, and people who did not know what the syllables meant repeated them like a charm. They became Indianized into Esmiss Esmoor, they were taken up in the street outside.”

        God, we read such racist shit in high school.

        • H0mer0

          My dad was especially delighted (snark)at the depiction of the Indian characters in “Elephanta Suite” by Paul Theroux. I didn’t realize how “To Kill a Mockingbird” was a patronizing feel good story which was not based on any real people or real deeds by white people though we wanted to believe it.

          I haven’t read Harper Lee’s newer novel so I don’t know anything about that.

    • Ricky Gay

      beats crotch crickets, or so I have heard…

  • Lucas Foxx

    “DO IT OBAMA” …AND DO IT BEFORE DEC 19 !!!!

    If we are going to have a Constitutional crisis, I want it NOW, while Barry’s still in charge.

    • Husband Of Mrs God

      The report, not the rocket.

      • Lucas Foxx

        Agreed. Although…..i’d take a look.

      • Roadstergal

        Both, plz. I need something… uplifting.

        • Husband Of Mrs God

          Okay, we’ll see what we can do.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Confidence in American elections is at an all-time low anyhow, so what they hell . . . why not?

  • Rick Hill

    Trump would like to know, too!! Oh, wait, he could find ou if he went to his security breifings. Oh, wait, he knew even before the FBI did….

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    Obama won’t do a thing because he’s a commie Marxist who has been helping Trump during the transition because he’s a commie Marxist who loves Russia.

    • Begin Anew Day

      I just KNEW the illuminati were mixed up in this!

    • H0mer0

      I wuz wondering about the motivation….

  • FauxAntocles

    Save us, Obama, you’re our only hope!

  • WideStance
  • major_asshole

    (A) Just saw this on Rachel Maddow (god bless her, she is an island of sanity in a sea of stoopid).

    (2) Nothing on Herr Trump’s victory rally tour?

    • Niblet58

      If Cincinnati was any indication of enthusiasm… the tour will be very short lived in deed.

  • theblackdog

    It’s not too late for Bamz to show us the goods while declaring himself as a sexxxy dictator for life to save us from Cheeto Hitler

    • H0mer0

      enough with the pocket rocket!!!!

  • javadavis

    One of my pet peeves!
    We are admonished not to point out that voting machines have been rolled into place with no paper trail, with anomalies that favor repubs overwhelmingly, but we are not supposed to talk about that or do anything because it”…might undermine public confidence in American elections.”
    I am on this team: “But we’d much rather that happen, and have that lead to real reforms that ensure the integrity of the process, even if it means trust has to rebuilt, than to let America sit idly by, naively trusting in something that is, in point of fact, untrustworthy”

  • jackaroe

    I used to think we shouldn’t sink to their level, but look how that worked out for us! Don’t wait for the release of classified evidence type words, hold multi-day hearings! Grill officials! Say the suspicious words a thousand times a day on every outlet! Don’t worry if their really is any classified words, keep saying the click-bait words and make the orange man sit and listen and make faces while you do. Do it until it is as big a joke as Benghazi. That is obviously what people want. Help us Senate dems you are our only hope. When life loses its value and is taken for naught, the pact is to avenge.

  • babyming

    It’s one thing for America to flat-out lose to the Kremlin, who will have their man in the White House January 20. It’s another thing for America’s current president, congress and fbi to not even be able to TALK about it.

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