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OH NO WONKETTE BABY HAS BEEN DRIVEN TO DRINK. Water probably, or juice.
OH NO WONKETTE BABY HAS BEEN DRIVEN TO DRINK. Water probably, or juice.

Good morning! Have you hidden your wallet from yourself (it’s in the freezer) so you will remember to Buy Nothing Today? That’s cool, you can buy our shit tomorrow! (If we are pointing you to items in our Redbubble store, you can scroll down on that particular page and click “available products” to see if that item is on a cup or tote bag or whatnot. Click! Click away!)

We were going to make a whole bunch of new merches at ya in time for Christmas, but then Donald Trump won the election, and our brains broke, and no new merches came out of them. So let’s buy all our OLD items instead!

Here are some!

First, buy our Wonkette Game of US America Elections: The Game. You can even buy this for a Trumper! It is a fun, collectible 2016 election card game, and if it’s too confusing, you can just use it as a deck of regular cards! (That part was my idea, because #ideaschief.)

Buy it here, we have so many hundreds left, and it will be delivered USPS Priority! Is that not swell? It is.

Good Babby, choose Bernie
Good Babby, choose Bernie

Next, buy some Wonkette onesies for all the babies in your life. (Does not come in adult sizes, you are very sad, unless Shy puts that on Redbubble in the next 20 minutes or so, IT COULD HAPPEN. OH WAIT IT DID!)

NOTICE IT!
Babby not included.
OOOOH LOOK AT THAT PUNIM.
OOOOH LOOK AT THAT PUNIM.

Free shipping? FREE SHIPPING!!!

Now! Buy some women’s Warren for Progress T-shirts or men’s Warren for Progress T-shirts from the Wonkette Bazaar! If you have checked there, and we are out of your size, buy it from Redbubble instead! (We get a slightly smaller cut from our Redbubble store; at the same time, we will not fuck up your order, which happens more frequently than I’d like to admit! Lose-win!)

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We are all very sad about Hillary Clinton. Maybe your mom needs a bittersweet cry-Tee! (Once again, check sizes at the Bazaar, and if we’re out of yours or you neeeed a women’s tee instead of a big ol’ unisex one because you are FUSSY, go to our Redbubble here! (At Redbubble, you can also choose mugs and shit. Not shit. You know what I mean.)

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How about a Nasty Woman mug, tee or tote bag? Those were fun!

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Truck Fump? Oh hahahahaha, we thought these would be irrelevant by now, and BOY were we WRONG!

Truck Fump never looked so good
Truck Fump never looked so good

We aren’t allowed to advertise our Bernie For the Future mugs online, so we’re not putting a picture of it here. You’ll have to email rebecca at wonkette dot com with the secret code words, “hey can I buy an Ill-Eagle Bernie mug?” and then send money on the paypal.

We have hardly any coffee mugs left (except at Redbubble for some of them), but we have a few Smokin’ Joes and a fuckload of Shut the Fuck Up Luke Russerts. You could buy those!

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Here is a funny shirt! It says “Don’t blame me, I voted for Jill Stein.” But it is funny because it has an ASTERISK that says “Blame me. It’s my fault.” Nobody is buying those, I think because they can’t see the asterisk part in the picture. BUT IT IS THERE!

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Also there is this Wonkette kitten with a whip tee, modeled here by “a lady.”

Kitten vs. Evil Dead
Kitten vs. Evil Dead

Lastly, and this is not very Jesusy but you love it anyway, there is this Fuck You America tee or sofa pillow or mug or wall art probably.

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No, the wallet’s in the freezer, remember?

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  • Nounverb911

    “buy some Wonkette onesies”
    Damn fine print, “baby not included”!

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      It’s a shame, because the OTHER way of getting babby I recall was somewhat stressful for all concerned.

    • Msgr_Moment

      I’ts okay. We know how babby is formed.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        Wait. They explained how babby is formed? Did I miss a post?

      • BJW

        It’s squeezing babby out that is the problem. I did it TWICE.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    I am going to propose that we need Limited Edition Legislative Badass of The Year™ merch. Please make that happen. Also, I want it to start with John Lewis, who I have decided in the wouldacouldashoulda universe was Hillz’ veep pick.

  • Bill Slider

    I was shopping for Nixon’s the One. Got any of those?

  • memzilla (Maquis Uni)
  • Nounverb911
    • The Wanderer

      You make me want to open a Twitter account.

      • Opalroneil

        Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !so272c:
        On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
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    • Celtic_Gnome

      Nice chins.

    • I think he’s doing his Mitch McConnell.

  • lroom

    Trump’s Thanksgiving menu. What the hell is a tuna martini?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/307507-trumps-thanksgiving-at-mar-a-lago-club

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      It’s what this guy is asking for at his favourite nightclub: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a1/a5/48/a1a54802ce1788a5476fd37d8877a34c.jpg

    • Anna Rompage

      It’s an appetizer (no alcohol). Normally it would likely be fresh Tuna Poki, or something like that served in a meeting glass… knowing trump, it was probably a martini glass full with Subway’s tuna salad with extra mayo

      • lroom

        Thanks.

    • idiokratischtrumpenjugend

      Because there were some people there who drink like a fish.

    • Ricky Gay

      I think that is his nickname for the wifey

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Which one? Ivana, Marla, Melania or Ivanka?

        • Ricky Gay

          AOT,K

          • HooverVilles

            Correct and you win the interwebs for one day.

          • Ricky Gay

            yay!!! :)

        • Celtic_Gnome

          Remember the interview where he said he’d like to date is daughter? Evidently they cut the clip off right before Ivanka said, “If he came at me, I’d tase him.”

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            I guess she’s out of the will.

    • BadWolfGirl

      A martini that Ivanka sat on?

    • The Wanderer

      I have to admit that the beef tenderloin and lamb offerings do sound quite appealing.
      (eyes the tenderloin in his freezer)

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        If the Orange Abomination had anything to do with them they’ve been so overcooked that you’d be better off eating the menu.

        • The Wanderer

          Indeed so! But I like my steaks rare to medium rare. Why cook all the flavor out of the meat?

          • no. he’s trying to cook the meat out

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Precisement. And by that token, if you don’t cook it at ALL the flavour will be at its peak!

    • Msgr_Moment

      An abomination against all that is holy? I’m just guessing here.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      He doesn’t even look real in that picture.

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        That’s how you can tell it’s an evil spirit. They never look QUITE human.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          He looks like the creepy Burger King guy.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Why are you trying to put me off Burger King?
            … wait, what am I SAYING?

          • HooverVilles

            Except even moar creepier.

        • kareemachan

          Well, the older sons *still* look like psychopathic sociopaths, so they could have done a better job of airbrushing…

          • Celtic_Gnome

            Eric always looks like the poster boy for special ed to me.

      • Lefty Frizzell

        None of them do. Do they airbrush the actual teeth or just the photo?

    • Lefty Frizzell

      I’m going to guess it’s a spoonful of ahi tartare with some garnish and an olive on a stick in a martini glass, or some such pretentious fuckery.

      • lroom

        Pretentious Fuckery is the name of my new emo hair band.

    • Shanana Republic

      What’s the deal with Chilean sea bass and why do the “fancy” places always have it?

      • Lefty Frizzell

        It’s just a random word to make it sound better, like clean coal.

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Figures. Immigrant sea bass coming into the country and taking jobs away from AMERICAN sea bass.

        • HooverVilles

          Funny!

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            <bows> I am but an ‘umble jester, capering for your amusement!

      • Thiazin Red

        It can’t be that fancy of a fish, you only get like 20 bucks for it in Animal Crossing.

      • kareemachan

        Its real name is Patagonian toothfish, but they thought they could make it sound nicer but still exotic so renamed it. It’s not that pretty a fish, and is also becoming endangered due to overfishing and being slow to mature and reproduce.

        Of course donnie would have it on his menu….

        • foreign agitator Captain Kraut

          Well, they were out of Dodos.

  • ZangoCrudmonger

    Fuck it all. I’m not too keen on this election thingy results at all! Aside from that, I’m going to buy a nice fuck trump shirt. This was yesterday. Today, looking for the dregs of booze to restart this fresh hell. Love y’all. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/daa5379fed8cb05b8d231db7eb184c5687cc820a6f29f4705135711df5fddf9b.jpg

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Went to the child’s for Thanksgiving. All we had to do was sit and drink. Plus, son and daughter-in-law both hate Trump.

      On a sadder note, he’s one of those people that got screwed out of a raise by the appeals court striking down the overtime rule.

  • Foreign Agitator Ron

    All I have in my wallet is a loonie, a nickel, and two TTC tokens. I think I shall expend them on a nice cheese bun. Sorry, boss.

    • SnarkON

      To some women, “TTC” means “Trying to Conceive.” That’s not what it means to you, I’m guessing.

    • Where were you when i needed tokens? I bought a day pass for todayand am at The Village Idiot pub across from the AGO

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        I wish I’d known. I even have a couple of bucks on my pass card.

  • MamaBrown

    Happy giving thanks day to Donna Rose! My god she is adorable

  • The Wanderer

    Unfortunately, I have bought two things so far this morning:
    1. Some respite from creditors (i.e., paid the bills)
    2. Bought a few essentials (paper towels, dish-washing detergent, postage stamps)

    Does this make me a bad person?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      I don’t know how you live with yourself.

      • The Wanderer

        It’s difficult. Ask The Succubus – pardon me, my ex-wife.

  • anwisok

    Next, buy some Wonkette onesies for all the babies in your life. (Does not come in adult sizes, you are very sad, unless Shy puts that on Redbubble in the next 20 minutes or so, IT COULD HAPPEN. OH WAIT IT DID!)

    That’s a T shirt, not a onesie. FALSE ADVERTISING! YOU LIE! IMMA GONNA SUE!

    • kareemachan

      Take a deep breath, anwisok….

      Better now?

  • Saxo the Grammarian

    I won’t rule out a run to the market to replenish my supply of strong beverage, but the big box retailers can go fuck themselves, especially the ones that open on ***Thanksgiving Day***. Also, I found a locally-owned computer repair shop that can fix my going-on-the-fritz laptop.

    • The Wanderer

      Excellent! Keep the money local, and stimulate the economy!

  • Me not sure

    Wait… this isn’t Saturday? We stayed up way late binge watching BBC America’s “Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency” and drinking all of the wineses. I was hoping to sleep through Black Friday.

    • SnarkON

      Take another Xanax and go back to bed. You’ll wake up tomorrow.

      • Me not sure

        Nah. Wife sez that I have to get up and buy a sheet of plywood. Don’t ask.

        • SnarkON

          Honey?

          • Me not sure

            DO!

        • snark-lurker

          wwutt!!!111!!!
          you donut like goin to lumbar yard?!
          WTFIWWY

          • Me not sure

            Actually, this may be be my high point today.

    • Do you have any idea what’s going on with the mystery?

      • Thiazin Red

        If I remember the book correctly, it makes absolutely no sense until right before the end. I hope they do Long Dark Teatime, I liked that one even more than the first.

        • kareemachan

          I’m going to have to read the book again. It’s been years, and the show is not sparking any memory neurons.

      • Me not sure

        Oh, hell no! The wine didn’t help one little bit, either.

    • snark-lurker

      we did
      stranger things
      AOT,K

  • Apple Scruff
    • SnarkON

      She was really beautiful. She could have been a Marilyn Monroe type if her career had gone in some other direction.

    • TJ Barke

      Fuckin’ 2016! It wants to take us all!

      • Celtic_Gnome

        How come we didn’t get a single celebrity death in the whole year that would have generated a sense of smug satisfaction?

    • The Wanderer

      This year cannot end soon enough.

    • Shoto

      Fuck 2016 right in its chronology hole.

    • Yr. Gma

      How sad.

  • SnarkON

    This Black Friday I resolve only to buy canned clams and those cakes we like.

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      I’m going for cerail…and cedar cheese, of course.

  • cheetojeebus

    Early Resolution idea. As a whole can we promise not to name anymore small hip curated stores “word and another word” as in Dirt and Steel or Beard and Bird etc.. Thank you.

    • kareemachan

      Dog and Butterfly?

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      I want to open a diner called ‘Sam and Ella’s’
      I want to have a rhinoplasty clinic whose motto is, ‘Come in and pick your nose!’
      And a maternity clinic whose motto is, ‘We deliver in 30 minutes or it’s free!’
      And a breast augmentation clinic called ‘Watermelons.’

      • cheetojeebus

        No lie, There is/was* a bar in north Philly, actually Frankford called “Booger’s Beef and Beer”
        *haven’t been nearby for years to check if it’s still a going concern.

  • TheGrandWaz00

    In order to ward off internal criticism against his nomination for SoS, Mitt has offered to apologize for all the shitty things (you know, the truth) he said about Trump during the campaign. Now that’s the kind of principled leadership this country needs.

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      A rock-ribbed adherence to core principles, no matter what the consequences, is a characteristic of all Republicans after all.

      • BJW

        Core principles being them being smarmy azzholes.

    • Anna Rompage

      Trump is so vindictive, that now that he’s gotten an apology from Mittens , he’s gonna pull the rug out from underneath him by humiliating him in public, and then denying him the position..

    • SayItWithWookies

      If you can’t admit you were wrong when you weren’t, there’s not room for you in this administration.

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Does not apply to the clown at the top.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      I just can’t see Mittens fitting in with the rest of the cabinet. I mean, what’s he supposed to do when they take paste-eating breaks during the meetings?

  • freakishlystrong

    I will buy anything for the babby! So happy and sweet. From the “news”, local anyway, it looks like the buy nothing movement is working, at least where I am. (I am buying nothing but a pedicure..) and tipping like a fucking BOSS.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      I am not even leaving the house today. That’s how buy nothing I am.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    OT OMG ALEX KINGSTON

    That is all.

    • What’s she doing now?

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Showing up in shows unexpectedly and sending me to my bunk!

        • Ah…which one? I know she was on Arrow back in season one

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Gilmore Girls!

          • New or original series?

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            The new one.

          • Then SHHHHHHH! I can’t watch until later.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            I’m not saying anything else! But I LOVE HER SO MUCH.

          • kareemachan

            I want her hair….

          • foreign agitator Captain Kraut

            Had to google the lady, but yeah…red corkscrew curls, what’s not to likelove?

        • snark-lurker

          ah!
          then yoo do too fap afterall
          i gnew it!

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            It’s Alex Kingston!

  • I am not buying aside from transit and food…but i am doing. I will be wearing my Warren for Progress scarf whilst touring through the Art Gallery of Ontario

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      Say hello to the giant neon installation for me, would you? Pretty please?

      • where is that? i am doing the Impressionist landscape exhibit first…

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          Used to be right by the original entrance, outside, but since I was there last they’ve reconfigured the entrance. Between the AGO and the ROM it’s like the city’s greatest treasures are being stored in Autobots. (Or more accurately, since the ROM now charges for admission, in Decepticons.)

          • i lived in Ottawa when regular admission to the National Gallery was free. it was a great way to kill an afternoon

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            The country is clearly going to hell. I blame the US.

          • absolutely correct.

          • second reply: ROM looks like a building caught in a time schism whilst having a seizure. and their curators are dumber than a sack of hammers

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Yay! I’m not the only one who thinks that!

          • i hate the layout of the historical artifact galleries. and nothing is labelled correctly.

    • Alan

      How much would it take for you to adopt me so I can move? Canada says I need to be 20 years younger or have a million dollars to immigrate. But hey, it’s only Canadian money.

  • The Wanderer

    Today is a housework, recovery, and reconnaissance day (“time spent in recon is never wasted”), so I am online doing a bit of window shopping.
    I have just spotted something to inflict on my little brother – pink plastic lawn flamingos. He HATES them, and as he and his wife have moved to Tennessee I can think of no better housewarming gift.

    • Why does he hate them? WANT!

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        When the ex and I bought our house up in Cottage Country, we wished to have something flamingo-like in the front but thought them a trifle out of place. So we bought plastic penguins.

        • The Wanderer

          “Penguins don’t come from next door! They come from the Antarctic!”
          “BURMA!”

          “What’d you say Burma for?”
          “I panicked.”

        • I want a giant (At least 3 ft diameter, or about a meter for your Canadians) stone turtle. Just for the heck of it.

          • you should stand four elephants on it’s back and then place a big table painted like a map on top of them

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            “See the Turtle of Enormous Girth”
            “On his shell he holds the Earth.”
            “His thought is slow, but always kind.”
            “He holds us all within his mind.”

            “On his back all vows are made;”
            “He sees the truth but mayn’t aid.”
            “He loves the land and loves the sea,”
            “And even loves a child like me.”

          • kareemachan

            Turtles all the way down!

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      My siblings have been inflicting a pair of these birds on one another for about 20 years now. They show up on your lawn overnight, and the unwritten rule is that you have to leave them there until you get a chance to plant them on another sibling’s lawn. Works best if the distances are significant, but not airline-reservation-significant.

      • The Wanderer

        LOL

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        I dunno, if they all moved to different countries the logistics would make for a VERY satisfying game, and probably relatively few stays in jail.

      • MizzMazz

        That sounds like a very fun game! I love pink flamingos, and the sunflowers that spin in the wind.

      • Paul

        That’s sick. You monsters likely eat canned clams too.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      I put the tree up today. Covered in dragon ornaments.

  • Kiri the Resistant Unicorn

    Don’t believe a word he says. He knows darn well he’s supposed to wait until the plate is put on the floor. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1778acd4b116560dddfcb4409bff5abb7aae372e77437fc3a65968fc90a2622.jpg

    • Alan

      Feel fortunate. The cats just hop on the table.

      • Thiazin Red

        True, and if they’re motivated enough, the spray bottle does nothing. Nothing.

        • Motivation comes in three types: Want, need and salmons

          • Thiazin Red

            Turkey is like super crack to my cats.

          • My cat does not eat table food, any of it, not even tuna. Except for tiny bits of white American cheese (I got boys, don’t judge me) and once in a blue moon she will have a taste of jack.
            She is too weird. Also does not do treats nor catnip

          • Shanana Republic

            My cat likes Doritos.

          • Thiazin Red

            My boyfriend’s old cat did too, but only the powder. So he would stick his head in the bag and lick the chips when no one was looking. So people would reach in the bag and pull out a bunch of soggy chips.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Are you sure she’s not actually a dog wearing a clever disguise?

          • Pretty sure! Yesterday she decided to be a cat and attack anyone who walked by

          • Thiazin Red

            One of mine didn’t like any table food until last year. She refused any kind of meat, except prosciutto for some reason, but one day she just decided she liked meat and wanted to eat it.

          • YetAnotherRebecca

            My spoiled little tabby man doesn’t like much table food except starches – white bread, bagels, the occasional french fry. Those he’ll sometimes chew through plastic for if I’m not careful.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9bcd028e52e636f984f54a94930cc9e4d739e7226eef53393c1be17fdacba41.jpg

            My chubby girl doesn’t really like any people food at all, although she is super picky about her wet food – fancy feast cheesy food only!

            Although as a chubby Midwestern girl myself, I can’t say I really blame her on that one.

          • arglebargle

            OMG – we have one of those too! Dry cat food only. No treats, no tuna or salmon, no milk, no catnip. The mighty hunter will bring home the occasional grasshopper.

        • Ricky Gay

          I bought my kitty a Thanksgiving present. Just see how much she loves it!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab28abca182842bf09776873f48994aa25ff108d47b25fc39035a78e0d107b67.jpg

          • Shanana Republic

            What, no box?

    • MizzMazz

      Is that a SEED catalogue you’ve got there? How I miss my garden days.

    • Painter of Goats

      I see you are looking at garden porn.

  • Carpe Vagenda

    We’re off to convince some amish folks to sell us furniture. Protip, tho: the kid travels with a pack of gamers, and she tells me they’re addicted to the Wonkette election game I sent her.

  • bookish

    EcoWatch: NASA earth science on the chopping block?

    http://www.ecowatch.com/nasa-earth-science-climate-change-2110496412.html

    • SayItWithWookies

      Yes, when facts contradict your position on climate change, and then you become president, you can stop those damn facts from happening.

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Hmm, how much does ocean level have to rise before basements start flooding in Washington?

        Seven metres. That’s all. Seven metres.

    • Brendan_M

      President-elect Trump knows that 5-year-old debunked right-wing conspiracies about hacked emails prove climate scientists are all lying about climate change.

      http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/trumps-climate-change-answer-dumber-than-you-could-imagine.html

  • bookish
    • Thiazin Red

      Thats a good point that shouldn’t be overlooked.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Yeah, the misogyny hasn’t really been talked about that much beyond Trump’s gross statements about women.

      • The thing is, the women who fall in with those types WANT to be the kept pampered lil woman at home. Or, so they think.

        • Shanana Republic

          I try to understand this, I really do, and the only thing I can think of is that like the men who subscribe to the ideas in this group, the women have been made to feel afraid of “________” and believe that taking this role will protect them somehow.

          • They don’t want to work is the thing. Or, I should say, they want to be taken care of. You know, the june Cleaver thing. They’ll make cake pops and set their roombas but they want their man to do all the hard parts for them like on the TV.
            And hey, if that works for ya, more power to it! The only problem I have with it is when they decide that is what ALL women should do. Just like not all women should work if they feel staying home is more important.

          • Shanana Republic

            Maybe they don’t want to work because they’ve been convinced to fear how “hard” it is. I don’t know. It’s still really difficult for me to understand the mentality of actually WANTING to make yourself totally and permanently dependent on someone else when you’re a grown-ass adult.

          • Brendan_M

            Maybe it is a kink and they are subs. That seems like the most positive way to think about it.

          • Shanana Republic

            Er, I don’t think that’s how that stuff works…

          • Brendan_M

            Never underestimate the weirdness of human sexuality. Sexual perversion seems like as good a reason Trump won than any other.

          • The real kicker is the right policies will ensure that even more women need to enter the work force, for the middle class will keep vanishing and families are gonna need that extra income.
            I think the other bit is part of the princess mentality. We all grew up on stories of falling in love with the handsome guy who rescues you and takes you away to live happily ever after. It’s only been recently that movies have started altering that story line a bit, but all the classic movies, books and tv shows that younger girls watch are still about that.

        • Thiazin Red

          I always want to ask those women, if it was so great being a housewife, why did women back then fight to change things?

          • I enjoyed being at home when the lads were little. I like being in the work force now that they are not.
            Having the choice which I felt I needed to do (monetarily, etc) is what is the important bit is that often times multiple sides over look. Excepting of course actual feminists who understand the difference is all about that choice XD

          • Shanana Republic

            And actual feminists think that men should stay home if they want to as well. But that never occurs to the “alt-right” goobers.

          • Well, the right has always had issues with things like choices and consent.
            Not sure why considering they are alllways yammering about choices this and choices that.

          • Thiazin Red

            I’m certain my father would have enjoyed being a stay at home parent. It would have made my mother insane, she can’t stand retirement either.

    • Shanana Republic

      Ugh. Women shouldn’t make foreign policy because they’re “vindictive”? Trump’s whole idea of running for president was because he was pissed at Bamz for hurting his fee-fees.

  • CountryClubRefugee

    Do you guys make “Still With Her” tampons? If not, I need to go to Walgreens.

    • Radardude

      Oh, come on. You know you have to wake up someone at 2:30 in the morning and send them to the convenience store on an “I need one RIGHT now” tampon run.

      • CountryClubRefugee

        Yes, but I’m a spinster and my cats can’t drive! :(

  • Thiazin Red

    I won’t be buying anything today because I’m already done. I get paranoid that the presents I want to buy people will get here late, so I always order things early. But then, I have time to worry that people won’t like them.

    • I usually do my orderin sunday and Monday. It comes to my door,I generally get enough that I do not have to pay shipping, and I am very happy with it.
      However, this year, except for two electronics for the lads, I think I am going to go local. Sort of wing it

    • bookish

      I made all my Christmas gifts this year, for the first time. Rosaries, necklaces, malas, key chains, etc. Doing it a little at a time spreads out the hurt.

      • Thiazin Red

        Thats cool. I’m a selfish crafter, almost everything I make is for me.

        • bookish

          I’ve been ordering unstrung beads off e-bay, because dirt cheap, and if you are selective, no additional shipping charges. I haven’t had any problems. The kicker is it may take six weeks for your order to arrive by snail mail from China.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Snail libel!

      • Serai 1

        Neat! I make food things like cookies. I’m gonna do sugarplums this year, I think.

    • Serai 1

      Back when I had money to spend on gifts, I had an ironclad rule not to step into a store after December 1st. Did all my holiday shopping during the year and just stuck the gifts in a closet until it was time to wrap them. Much less stressful!

  • bookish

    CBSPhilly. Three things Donald Trump really cares about: the media, his reputation, personal profits. Fire when ready.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/11/25/trump-3-things/

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      Overanalysis. The one thing Donnie Darkseid cares about is HIMSELF.

      • NastyBossetti

        The 3 things indicated in the article are: media, your opinion of him, and personal profit. So… yeah, the math on that still just adds up to: himself.

        • Shanana Republic

          Exactly. Trump Show 24/7/365 now.

          • You know what liberals should do? Refuse to go click on any article with Trump in the headline.
            The media will get the hint after the first time they suddenly do not have click bait.
            Course, that would take supreme self control and not to mention a concerted effort of masses….so not gonna happen. But how funny would it be that Donnie gets all sad the press is no longer covering him all the sudden?

          • bookish

            I’m trying to limit myself. I don’t need to know the Thanksgiving menu at Mar- A -Lago.

          • Shanana Republic

            Yeah, but who wants to NOT know what this fucker is actually up to?

          • Me!
            I figure he is a figure head. He will anoint the fuckers that will do the real damage. Except for him possibly starting a war with someone over a mean tweet, I expect him to wield nearly no actual power at all.
            Assuming of course the Republicans give him the tax credits he is looking for. I they screw him on that, all bets are off.

          • artem1s

            it’s not like reading the NYT about what they think this fucker is going to do has any bearing on reality anyway. the media is going to be making shit up as they go along. no need to play into their fantasy that they have any relevance whatsoever.

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            It’s mostly the nitwit teabagger crowd who go for clickbait, fake news, and whatever shit Beck and Jones and Limbaugh are peddling. I doubt that the effects of a leftie boycott would rise above statistical noise.

      • bookish

        Above all.

      • TJ Barke
      • Yr. Gma

        He is a narcissist (and was probably diagnosed as such at some point in his life, like we’ll ever know that) and they have two modes: hunting for adulation and punishing when they don’t get it. That’s it.

    • idiokratischtrumpenjugend

      Official position of CBS News: “Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being we have ever known in our lives.”

  • Nounverb911

    Sam Stein has an interesting take on Donnie.
    https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/802178980807905281

    • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

      I don’t understand why Romney is even still talking to him. It’s not like he needs Donnie to make more money or learn how to offshore the money he already has.

      • Because Mittens, for all his faults, would like the US to prosper (mostly so he can get even richer, probably, but he is a Mormon and they do tend to be also very help thy neighborish from time to time). So he is probably figuring, if I am there, maybe I can keep the crazy to a min.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          Hell, who wouldn’t take the job, if it meant keeping Ghouliani out of it?

        • kareemachan

          More like “very help thy MORMON neighborish”….

          • Aw be fair now. After Katrina for example, the local Mormons opened up their stock pile warehouses, that they have for…reasons….and helped distribute some food to not even Mormons.
            Though generally, yeah, that is the way that works XD

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            Well, you can’t generalize (#notallmormons), but the % of Mormons who take Mormonism seriously is a hell of a lot higher than the % of Christians who take Christianity seriously.

          • Yr. Gma

            Well, technically, Mormons ARE Christians, but I see your point.

        • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

          Huh. From where I’m standing it looks more like one rich snob hating another rich snob because they both see themselves as the ultimate “outsider”. Simply for my entertainment, I hope Mittens doesn’t withdraw his name so Trump has to openly say he doesn’t want him in his cabinet.

  • ok everyone…i am wrapping up lunch and on my way to the museum….be back laters!

    • Enjoy the masterpieces! And the not so masterful ones too for they need love

    • bookish

      I am not jealous. Not one bit. I keep telling myself.

      Post pics if you can!

      • Well…i am currently standing in seemingly endless lines so hold the jealousy

        • Americans stand in line to get 50 bucks off a TV.
          Canadians stand in line to go see art.

        • bookish

          Uh oh. Hope you’re not wearing that dress and the strappy sandals. Better keep moving so you don’t freeze in place.

      • Yr. Gma

        I am totally jealous.

  • Serai 1

    Speaking of gift buying, here’s something to lighten your morning:

    Amazon users have strong opinions on the new Trump “Red Hat” holiday ornament

    Heehee. Amazon is such a great way to shit on someone’s head.

    • Alan

      And it’s made in China. Really.

    • It called Mary a nasty woman, told Joseph to go back where he came from, built a wall around the manger, and then when you press it it sings “I’m Dreaming Of A Totally White Christmas.”

      • Serai 1

        “It tried to put my nativity figures into an internment camp. Would not buy again.”

        • SNORK. There is one that gave it 5 stars and went all “I dunno about the negative reviews, I got it all the way from china and it makes my hands look YUUUGGGEEE”
          heheheheh

    • I love all the conservatives saying “buy it for all your liberal friends”, as though any actual sane person could stomach being “friends” with these asshats.

      Though, if some smug republican bought me one, I would take great, GREAT pleasure in destroying it right in front of them, bigly.

      • Shanana Republic

        Make sure you put it in a sealed bag first.

      • NastyBossetti

        Also, what economically anxious person can afford to spend over $200 to get even one of those, let alone as a really stupid joke on their “liberal friends.”

        • Jamoche

          More proof, as if we needed it, that a large number of Trump voters are rich assholes.

          • Well, you are making the assumption that anyone has actually bought one of these… That price point doesn’t work with his mouthbreathing, velcro shoe wearing deplorables, and the ones who can afford that SHOULD have better taste (though, some rich assholes just cover everything with gold leaf in the misguided belief that that is somehow “classy”)

          • Jamoche

            It sold out, unless Amazon is in on the joke.

    • MizzMazz

      The comments are funny as hell, but what’s really wrong with that ornament is that it’s just so…ugly.

    • Shoto

      The very few favorable comments are obviously posted by A Idiots.

      These Trailer-Park Murricans are in for a rude awakening.

      • Serai 1

        Oh no, they’re not. Take a look. They’re mostly snark, some of them are genius.

  • Nounverb911
    • Don’t care if it is gimmick to tell the truth, though I wish she would drop the whole “Everything is corrupt, burn it all down!!!!” rhetoric

      • I like the review where the person wrote every time they tried to hang it on a branch on the Christmas Tree the ornament would snap “WRONG!” at them.

        • Nounverb911

          Why would someone want to hang Jill Stein on their Christmas tree?

          • Serai 1

            I think she meant that for on my post below about the MAGA ornament.

          • Nounverb911

            I realized that, it seemed to make sense though.

        • H0mer0

          I thought that would be the John McLaughlin ornament.

    • Serai 1

      LOL. I love that comment right underneath about liberals being easy marks. I guess irony can be pretty ironic.

  • Me The People
    • Me The People

      You know, I checked the thread to make sure this hadn’t been posted recently. DISQUS!!!

      • Nounverb911

        That’s okay, we all do it…

      • Serai 1

        You know what helps? Open the page in another browser before you post. On my computer, I’ve found that Chrome tends to ditch big chunks of Disqus comments. They’ll go from “17 minutes ago” to “8 hours ago”. So take a look in another one to make sure. :)

      • Resistance Fighter Puipui

        It’s okay, it’s just means I get to upfist it twice. Thank you!

    • Cogswell – User of the wheel

      I’ve seen people dissing this. Personally, I believe it’s far better that Jill Stein is doing this than Hillary Clinton. Stein states on the website, and I quote:

      “Our effort to recount votes in those states is not intended to help Hillary Clinton.

      These recounts are part of an election integrity movement to attempt to shine a light on just how untrustworthy the U.S. election system is.”

      If this flips any of the states, Clinton will have been distanced from this and the cultTrump™ acolytes will have nothing to link her to it without just plain making shit up like they always do.

      • jowgajen

        I think this is a good thing and we need to do it at every turn. Systems and institutions are strengthened through use. We are depending on our processes to work in the public interest, as we cannot trust our elected officials to do so.

      • Serai 1

        Clinton is also hamstrung by the fact that Obama doesn’t want the transition thrown into chaos. He’s very big on that. I wish I knew why, because he’s going around with a clamped-down rageface I find a bit unsettling. Personally, I don’t see the harm in having a recount just to be sure.

  • Msgr_Moment
    • What the actual hell.

    • Thiazin Red

      I feel like the octopus would just get really chewy.

    • Shanana Republic

      Cthurkey?

      • Serai 1

        OMG YOU WIN. Here, take everything I own.

      • kareemachan

        Love it!

      • Msgr_Moment
        • Shanana Republic

          AMAZING!

        • Doug Langley

          Now that’s real crabapple pie.

        • H0mer0

          who can resist the Kraken’s big “dough” eyes?

          (ow! who threw that?)

        • Serai 1

          OMG THAT IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PIE I’VE EVER SEEN.

          Holy shit. That is really inspiring! Thank you for posting that! Now I gotta up my pie game.

        • Royal Ugly Dude

          Cthulhu pie just won thanksgiving.

          • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

            You know, I always thought R’lyehian sounded like someone with a mouthful. Of pie!

          • Serai 1

            I’m seriously impressed that the maker of the pie managed to keep fruit juices from trickling out of those eye holes. Then again, it might have been cool to see Cthulhu weeping tears of blood. (Man, that gives me an idea for a vampire pie…)

    • Shoto

      Mmmmmm….Cralobstapuss. Tastes like chicken!

    • Boy, that’s something…

    • Shoto

      I’m not suggesting that this is a relative, but…it’s definitely a relative.

      http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/AUTOIMAGES/SS1T35lg.jpg

      • therblig

        that looks like kind of a rounded off pup tent affair

        • Shoto

          The cheaper it is, the better it is.

          • Msgr_Moment

            Ah, cheapnis!

      • Fun Fact! This creature’s on-set official name was ‘Beulah’.

      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        Aw, somebody ‘Shopped out the 2×4…

    • Lefty Frizzell

      Straight off the set of Carpenter’s “The Thing”

      • MizzMazz

        Best line in the movie: “You gotta be fuckin’ kidding me!”

        • Lefty Frizzell

          One of the last three great pre-digital special effects movies – along with American Werewolf and Dawn of The Dead.

    • Doug Langley

      I had no idea “Alien” was such a big hit overseas.

      • Msgr_Moment

        It’s like Benihana’s, but the waiters have a huge turnover.

    • At least they have the decency to top it with bacon!

    • Nasty Candy Apple

      Well, that’s fucking terrifying.

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn!

    • Serai 1

      Now this puts me in mind of a Thanksgiving XenoBeast. Cook a large lobster and two really big King crabs along with your turkey. Then, take the head off the lobster, and split the body open. Remove the legs. Take the legs off the crabs. Put something either edible of decorative on the platter under the turkey so that the cavity is angle upwards. Put the lobster body over the cavity and secure it. Then place attach the crab legs along the sides of the lobster and extend them around the turkey. And I don’t have an idea for the facehugger’s tail, so gimme some suggestions.

  • bookish
    • Serai 1

      Jesus fuck, he’s just going to hand the whole country over to that fucker, isn’t he?

      • Nounverb911
      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Thanks so fucking much, “Real Americans”

        • Serai 1

          Nixon and Reagan must be shitting bricks right about now.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            And Joe McCarthy’s ghost is weeping and screaming, ‘Dammit, I TOLD you! I TOLD you!’

        • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

          You mean working class white men with economic anxiety.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Of course.

          • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

            They knew exactly what they were voting for.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            I hope they enjoy the taste of potatoes.

          • Resistance Fighter Puipui

            Hey, now, be fair. Also white women.

          • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

            The group that put him over the top.

      • bookish

        At what point does it become actual treason?

        • Think we crossed that line months ago

          • Serai 1

            Treason seems to be a meaningless term. Nobody seems to give a shit about it anymore.

      • TJ Barke

        He has to, he’s got a remote controlled pellet located somewhere in his body that’s filled with polonium that Melania implanted in him.

        • Serai 1

          Honestly, that would not surprise me in the slightest.

    • SayItWithWookies

      That’s because he’s skipped most of his intelligence briefings — I mean, there’s only so many facts the motherfucker can absorb at one time. Of course, the last president who couldn’t be bothered with intelligence briefings later found out that maybe he should’ve listened.

      So anyway — I did predict to my friends the other night that Trump was gonna have his eye so far off the ball that we were bound to have another 9/11-scale terrorist attack within Trump’s first year. Asshole just can’t be bothered if it’s not about him.

      • ColumbusLib

        Yes, I foresee this as well. Terrifying.

    • Señor Skwerl!

      Crap. Putin knows about Area 54.

    • Ack.. How had I never seen this tweet before?

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/347191326112112640

      That’s just… That’s fucking SAD.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        Please tell me that’s a fake tweet. Lie to me if you have to. That can’t be real, can it?

        • That’s pathetic, like… All I can think of is that move Step-Brothers, and the general theme of that what sad, pathetic manbabies the main characters were…

      • NastyBossetti

        I’m surprised that after all this time, I can see one of his tweets and think, “That can’t possibly be the tweet of an adult man, let alone an adult man who is about to be the leader of our country.” He’s just such a pathetic loser.

  • Oooooo…whilst waiting inline to get into the AGO: ad popped up saying Guillermo Del Toro’s monsters exhibit is opening next fall. Yes please!

    • TJ Barke

      I want to go to there…

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      If there isn’t a life-size jaeger there I will be SORELY disappointed.

      • Opens Sept 30. I will probably make a winter pilgrimage up to see. Also, too Del Toro hangs out in Toronto a lot, so he might be around

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          I’d be terribly afraid I’d do a Wayne’s World-style ‘WE’RE NOT WORTHY’ at the man’s feet.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      That’s fine, but where’s Hellboy 3? Perlman’s only got so many action flicks left in him, yanno…

  • Cogswell – User of the wheel

    All the fools who stand in line for ‘bargains’ think they are getting a deal. They’re too stupid to realize that if they wait a couple of weeks, everything they bought will be on sale for lower prices so as to reduce overstocked inventory.

    Oooooh, shiny!

    • Serai 1

      Yep. My sister works the night shift at Macy’s on Thanksgiving (so they can’t make her work Black Friday), and she tells everyone not to come into the store on that day because the deals just aren’t deals. They have other sales throughout the year are way better, but people are just so addicted to the idea of Black Friday being the best that they don’t listen.

      • Cogswell – User of the wheel

        They probably also believe that Black Tuesday and Black Thursday were bargain days during the Great Depression of ’29.

        • Well, they were… I mean, you could buy stock at low, low prices!

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            ‘Prices you’ll fall for!’

          • Just the sort of deal you’ll jump for!

      • Ricky Gay

        and why is there no White Friday???11!!! #unfair

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          Is Black Friday at all related to Taco Tuesday?

          • Ricky Gay

            2nd cousins once removed, I think

    • Señor Skwerl!

      Not my $10 reindeer socks! They WILL be sold out. I’ll cut you for them, cuz, Merica!

    • Nasty Candy Apple

      But I just got all four seasons of House of Cards for like $30.

  • msanthropesmr

    I bought something today. I bought stuff from king arthur flour. They are a B corporation, owned by the employees, and organized for the public good and profit.

    • Serai 1

      Plus, their flour is really good.

      • msanthropesmr

        Yes. And they are good people.

      • MizzMazz

        It’s the only flour I will use for bread, until I can grind my own grains, and with my postage stamp sized kitchen, not gonna happen soon.

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          Not to mention that it’s clearly not big enough for a field of wheat. Unless you go for a smaller tractor.

          • MizzMazz

            Well, I do grind some grains using a coffee grinder, but can’t do the amounts needed for a bread bake, and if you’re not going big with that bread ( a few loaves) then no point in doing it at all.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        And they have the best baking site on the internet

    • TJ Barke

      COMMUNISM!

    • Nasty Candy Apple

      Their products are amazing. I went to their Vermont store once and they had a bakery with yummy stuff and tons and tons of kitchen things. I absolve you of your purchase.

    • monoglot

      Love King Arthur Flour!

      I also like to buy from Penzey’s Spices–have for years. Great spices and herbs, and some really good blends*. And because Bill Penzey is a god…

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/17/1601088/-Wow-Penzeys-Spice-Re-Racism

      When I was overseas with the DoD, Penzey’s was one of the companies that always shipped fast, and when a girl needs her *Tsardust Memories seasoning blend, well, she needs it.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
  • Cogswell – User of the wheel

    Found at The Daily Beast

    <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/25/black-friday-2016-turns-deadly-in-multiple-shootings-at-malls.html"Black Friday 2016 Turns Deadly in Multiple Shootings at Malls

    • TJ Barke

      ‘Merica! You got your ruthless capitalism and your senseless violence all at once.

      • H0mer0

        what’s not to like?
        (sn)

    • Shanana Republic

      This is why it’s so hard to get the $15/hr minimum wage to catch on. People will literally KILL for cheap shit. You just have to convince them that raising wages will cause the prices to go up and they’ll fight it tooth and nail.

      • boyblue122

        Also, the same people that wait in line on Black Friday to get cheap electronics that are made overseas are probably the ones whining about all the manufacturing jobs that arent in America anymore

        • TJ Barke

          Gotta keep up with those Jones’s!

        • Shanana Republic

          They complain that the unreasonable union demands forced them overseas.

          • boyblue122

            god forbid people make a working wage with the help of those evil unions

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Or a bit of health care, or maybe a bit of money when they retire. What sort of monster would want something like that?

          • TJ Barke

            Soshaslistms!

          • Shanana Republic

            Seems to be anything that impedes “trickle up” economics is soshaluzm.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I have lectured my sister multiple times on the Libertarian memes she keeps posting saying stuff like “You want your $15/hr minimum wage? Fine. Here’s your 10 piece chicken nuggets. That’ll be 54.59”. I’ve told her she has no idea how economics works (certainly not like that), sent her a link discussing the precedent for a $20/hr minimum wage, and asked that she not continue posting memes on the subject if she won’t educate herself.

        • Shanana Republic

          Did it work?

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Her best friend was on my side (she’s on medical leave from university right now and works at a Target in California) so she stopped posting the memes. Not sure if that means she’s wised up or not.

          • msanthropesmr

            It never works.

      • Yr. Gma

        I’m waiting for the outcry when bringing back the jobs from cheap labor countries causes the price of stuff to go up (or the tariffs on those items from countries where Donnie is going put the screws to our bad trade deals.)

        • Shanana Republic

          Yeah, they don’t follow through with these thoughts, do they?

    • NastyBossetti

      It’s the same shit every year. Wtf is wrong with people?

    • Señor Skwerl!

      An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.

      Or get a closeout teevee at slight discount!

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Being polite should be totally unrelated to whatever heat you’re packing. In fact, if you’re packing heat, you’re looking to be impolite and get away with it…unless the person you’re impolite to is also packing, also has anger and self control issues, and is, in other words, an ammosexual much like yourself.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Atlantic City — hey, you know who else fucked up Atlantic City?

  • Nounverb911
    • I think I can guess who was the more pleasant person to talk with…

      • Brendan_M

        Probably not the one who would write critiques of this political cartoon addressing the artist as (((Schwartz))).

    • Brendan_M

      I found out my right-wing aunt also voted against President-elect Asshole, so that leaves just one uncle who voted for him in the family. Every Republican family member in Indiana hates him and really, really hates Mike Pence, so family gatherings are pretty safe for the next 4 years.

      • Wow, can I come to your house for family get-togethers? I’ll bring booze…

        • Brendan_M

          You bring enough booze and you can join my family. It is one thing we all agree on.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      Everything went smoothly. A house full of Libs with a wingnut BiL who hates Trump, and a [disappointing surprise!] grandniece & hubby who love him. Pollyticks was not discussed, food was et, a good fambly get-together was had by all.

    • The Librarian

      I was fortunate to be at a largish gathering where not one of us was a Trump supporter. Great food and libation also too.

  • bookish
    • “anymore” he added.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      When you say “our Vlad”, is that, like, Vlad the Russian, or *our* Vlad, AKA the Resident Select?

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      ‘It was joke,’ he added.
      You know who else told ‘jokes’ like that?

      • That Russian comic who was popular in the 80s?

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    we have a few Smokin’ Joes and a fuckload of Shut the Fuck Up Luke Russerts

    What, no “Shut the fuck up Donnie–you’re out of your element” T-shirts? Or would they be a copyright violation?

    • Brendan_M

      Wonkette readers aren’t snitches, so we could keep it a secret if they make them.

  • Resistance Fighter Big Puppy

    For years now, I have declared Black Friday to be Buy Nothing Day and Do Nothing Day. I’ll pull myself together long enough to put soup and grilled cheese sandwich on the table for dinner, but otherwise, I’m going to continue spending the day with a lots of good reading.

    Then, tomorrow I might spend some ducats at some of our fine local establishments.

  • zerosumgame0005

    all I will be buying is something from Grubhub tonight just to piss of the Trumpanzees!

    • msanthropesmr

      Why does grubhib piss off the trumpanzees?

  • I am trying for the first time ever some genuine Pennsylvania Dutch ‘Scrapple’ this afternoon.

    I can’t say I’m looking forward to the experience.

    • Ew. My father was a scrapple aficionado and world-champion scrapple maker. NOT a fan of scrapple. But dad’s home-cured and smoked ham and bacon were to die for.

  • Shoto
    • If the Electoral College did its job, this is what should happen. I’m not holding my breath.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Given how most of them are chosen for being party loyalists, I wouldn’t hold my breath either

        • artem1s

          If they care about the GOP then they best vote their conscience. The GOP has been walking corpse for a couple of decades at least. If they really want a functional party again, they would soundly reject evil and all its works.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Trouble is, you’re talking about the very people who let this happen to their party

    • Villago Delenda Est

      If the Electoral College behaves as Hamilton thought it should, they’d do precisely what Lessig suggests. But then the infantile vermin of the Village would throw hissy fits, not mention the vile scum that are the Drumpfenproles.

      Still, if we want to save the Republic, and give humanity a chance at species survival, it seems to be the only way to do it because Drumpf and Dense cannot be allowed near the levers of power. Or we are truly fucked.

      • ZangoCrudmonger

        The optimists’ table is this way, Sir/and/or/Madam.

      • idiokratischtrumpenjugend

        The electors are easily swayed by death threats and swastikas spray painted on their garage doors.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        The E.C. that Hamilton & Co. imagined was full of the best and brightest lights of the nation. Methinks they’d be horrified by pretty much everything that’s going on today, from nutbag representatives like Gohmert to theocratic assholes like Cruz to whateverthefuck Trump is.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      They tried to suck up to Donald, but realized midway through they despise him.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Here’s the problem though — which electors should switch their votes? The ones in red states would appear disloyal to their voters if they switched, and of course the ones in blue states wouldn’t help if they switched. Ideally some of the electors in close states (MI, WI, FL) might be persuaded, but it would still be iffy.

      I certainly agree that they should elect Clinton, but I can see why electors wouldn’t want to buck 200+ years of tradition for it. On the other hand, Trump has already lined himself up for impeachment by violating the emoluments clause and not caring about conflict of interest with foreign powers, so the case for switching is pretty compelling.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        It would require a certain amount of red state electors to switch from Drumpf to Clinton, a tall order. It is though the precise reason why the electoral college exists (notwithstanding the distribution of electors, both to keep larger states from dominating and as a perk to slave states in the beginning). Whether there would ever be enough red state electors who would be willing to risk the wrath of red state voters (assuming they even disagree with those voters) is the real question.

        • Alan

          I think if the electors of WI, MI, and PA switched she would win. All blue states. Traditionally.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Traditionally, yes. This year, no.

          • Alan

            Actually, that’s not clear. It’s shocking how many people in MI didn’t bother voting because it was a foregone conclusion that Trump would lose and are now panicking. And it looks like Jill Stein will probably get a recount on behalf of the Democratic Party. Who knows, I’m always hopeful.

      • Doug Langley

        Technically, it wouldn’t buck 200+ years of tradition to go with the winner of the popular vote.

      • Serai 1

        It might be a moot point, what with the divestment issue throwing a wrench in the works. According to the rules, they can’t vote for him even if they want to, unless he divests.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      What if the people elect a Manchurian candidate? Or a child rapist?

      The popular vote doesn’t reflect that this time around. But it seems that’s the way the Electoral College is inclined to drift. Literal in both cases.

    • Sadly, they’re probably just a rubber stamp.

    • Thiazin Red

      Lets say that happens, would Clinton say yes?

    • Resistance Fighter Puipui

      See, and the bonus here is that if the Electoral College did its actual real job and rejected Trump, the rage from the red states might actually light a fire under some asses to finally get rid of the Electoral College so that we don’t end up getting into this kind of situation anymore. Extremely unlikely win-win!

      • Shanana Republic

        Not looking forward to the Red State Rage, though. For my own self, I don’t worry so much because I’m a middle-class cis-het white chick, but there are a LOT of people for whom it would mean some real danger.

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    In a cell phone video, the man was seen swinging at a police officer, who had come to break up a fight in the packed store. The fight allegedly began after the man stepped on a woman and tried to wrench a television set from her hands.
    In another horrific Black Friday incident at Walmart, a worker was trampled to death in 2008, after shoppers stampeded through his Long Island store. The 34-year-old maintenance was killed, and another four people seriously injured after a rush of customers burst down the doors in pursuit of Black Friday deals.

    Jesus H Christ on a crispy crust with extra cheese. There are days when I really think the Human race does not fucking deserve to survive.

    • msanthropesmr

      We’re trying our hardest!

    • TJ Barke

      Pretty sure it’s corporatized america that doesn’t deserve to survive.

      • msanthropesmr

        COrporatized AMerica is people. Just like Soylent Green.

    • Gosala

      This is the war on Christmas, the one I wish Christians would worry about rather than trees and happy holidays.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Those “Christians” revel in all this, because they’re actually worshipers of Mammon and Moloch.

    • It’s just a damn shame that we’ll be taking the other large mammals (at least) with us when we go…

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        The insects will have plenty of time to start over. Too bad they won’t be encoding whatever lessons we should have learned. (Extinction is a highly efficient tool for evolution.)

        • Bub the Mad Zombie

          So people who call Drumpf a tool have a point, I guess.

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      Conversely, I only occasionally have days when I believe that it does.

  • msanthropesmr

    OK, so the Anthropes are having their annual “War on Christmas” party. And we’d like to invite local wonkers to the party, but do not wish to self dox on the interwebs, what with our friendly neighborhood trolls (for those in the know, we Anthropes are in the capital of the confederacy (of dunces) or ichmond, Virbginia.)

    Is there anyway to privately DM or PM folks on disqueeze? Or should I set up a blind pig email address for others to send info too?

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      AFAIK, Disgust has no DM or PM capabilities

    • SnarkON

      Yes, Virbginia.

    • I wish I were a local wonker!

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Temp e-mail, for sure, and if you’re really paranoid, have folks confirm here that they sent an e-mail there.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    WAR ON CHRISTMAS, MUTHAFUCKA!

    • ZangoCrudmonger

      WE’VE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTXMAS!

    • SnarkON

      NOW MORE THAN EVER.

    • Aye Aye sir!

    • Celtic_Gnome

      ALL HOLIDAYS MATTER!

  • msulawgrad2006

    Happy day after Thanksgiving….ok, I came here and urged that we donate to the re-count effort….now, in the event that does not pan out, we need to aim for more balance in congress…in about 2 weeks, there will be an election in LA, we should consider donating. I know he is not exactly a liberal democrat, but at least we know he will not be all things conservative….we need to keep congress as competitive as possible ALWAYS!!!! Please consider this…..Donate to Foster Campbell…..https://twitter.com/LaDemos?lang=en or https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/fostercampellforsenatedonate

    • Did this last week. Seems kinda reasonable. Hope there’s more of his kind lurking about.

      • msulawgrad2006

        agreed

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Phone banked for him last Sunday. IDK if it will do any good, but I want to show those fuckers that we’re not giving up.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Well, this is interesting:

    Electoral College must reject Trump unless he sells his business, top lawyers for Bush and Obama say
    Ethics lawyers for the last two presidents are in agreement.

    “[T]o vote for Trump in the absence of such complete divestment… would represent an abdication of the solemn duties of the 538 Electors,” Tribe said.

    This view is not a position of disgruntled liberals. Richard Painter, Bush’s Chief Ethics Counsel, was in complete agreement with Tribe and Eisen during a recent appearance on CNN.

    “I don’t think the electoral college can vote for someone to become president if he’s going to be in violation of the Constitution on day one and hasn’t assured us he’s not in violation,” Painter said.

    They can’t say they weren’t warned…

    • msulawgrad2006

      apparently he can have conflicts….it sucks that the media focused on Hillary emails and treating him like a celebrity

    • SayItWithWookies

      Especially after all the crap the Republican threw at Hillary, insisting she and Bill divest completely from their foundation, which they have been doing. Of course in Trump’s mind rules aren’t rules so much as they are weapons to lob at the adversary — whether they actually apply universally is beneath consideration.

    • Markuserektus

      Emoluments shmoulments, you all knew that before the election. ~tRump

    • Anna Rompage

      Ethics?

      You think these people care about ethics?

      We don’t need no stinking ethics…

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Donald Trump: “Siri, what is ‘ethics'”

    • Alan

      But his campaign says that ethics rules apply to everyone except the president. And if you keep repeating it it must be true.

    • artem1s

      hmmm, well I never. Maybe W can explain why Cheney never divested now. asshat.

    • Alex Grey

      I’m certain congress will get right on investigating that…

  • TJ Barke

    Which one of you fuckers is really Lucy Lawless?

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Me. Why do you ask?

      • TJ Barke

        Curiosity. Also, I’m not sure I believe you.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          I’m Spartacus!

          • msanthropesmr

            Help, I’m a rock.

          • Markuserektus

            I’m an island…

          • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

            And you can call me Al.

          • Markuserektus

            …and Kodak stopped making Kodachrome.

          • yyyaz

            But there still are 50 ways to love your liver.

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            No man is an island.

          • eggsacklywright

            He’s a peninsula!

          • eggsacklywright

            My name is Diego Garcia.

          • artem1s

            My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die

          • msanthropesmr
        • eggsacklywright

          I was a teenage werewolf. Then I got better.

    • The Outraged Ms. MLG

      You were convinced I’m her a couple of months ago! I’m totally still not her.

      • TJ Barke

        I’ve moved on from that theory. Or am I?!

        • The Outraged Ms. MLG

          I do often wonder what famous people I’m friends with on here. Except George Clooney. I knew that already.

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            Amal is really pissed right now. I hope you’re happy.

          • The Outraged Ms. MLG

            I am not responsible for your deep love of my bondage gear. Besides, Amal knows I love her!

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      I’m actually George Clooney. Don’t let on.

      • The Outraged Ms. MLG

        This is actually true, everyone!!

        • Bub the Mad Zombie

          Dammit! I told you not to let on, Lucy!

          • The Outraged Ms. MLG

            Shhhhhh!!! Whisper, George!

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            Says the paragon of subtlety who made a career out of kicking ass in black leather bondage gear…

          • Suttree

            I spent the better part of my college years watching Xena with my lesbian friend across the hall. We both drooled over Gabrielle.

        • Thiazin Red

          Him being a fan of Day of the Dead would make me like him even more.

      • TJ Barke

        What is it like working on a Coen Bros. film?

        • Bub the Mad Zombie

          A lot better than working on a David O. Russell film.

    • The Wanderer

      I may be Pinky LaRue, depending.

    • I don’t think it’s me, but I’ve been wrong before!

  • mancityhombres

    Does buy nothing day also carry over to the liquor store and/or grocery store?

    • Shanana Republic

      I think it’s ok if it was stuff you were going to buy

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        How was the chili?

        • Shanana Republic

          Good! I had some for breakfast yesterday!

      • Shanana Republic

        Dumb phone posted for me again before I was done.

      • mancityhombres

        BRB

  • I failed at buy nothing. The musuem gift shop is the debbil

    • I think us Canucks are exempt from that rule, as our Black Friday is Boxing Day…

      • Doug Langley

        Boxing Day??? Wow, and I thought our sales events were violent . . .

  • lucidamente

    Trix, had you and Shy just had sex when they took those Warren for Progress t-shirt pix?

    • foreign agitator Captain Kraut

      They’re newly wed, is that even a question?

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    Hmmm, OK, so, two intel briefings for Hair Furor, two phone calls to Pooty-Poot.

    Love to see the timing on those…

    • Anna Rompage

      Who needs security briefings from underlings when you can get them straight from the ex head of the KGB, who is now the leader of Russia…

  • Bub the Mad Zombie

    So is this a four day weekend down south?

    • Lazy bastards

    • anwisok

      They made us come in. *sulk* But they’re paying us double time and a half! *perks up*

      • NastyBossetti

        My office is inexplicably open (all of our customers are K-12 schools in the US, so none of them are around). There are 4 or 5 people here. My department has to have coverage when the office is open, and I always let my minions take the day if they request it, so I’m here. Nobody knows why we’re open. The CEO insists, and no matter how many times HR tries to tell him it’s not worth it and would be a small gesture he could make to improve morale to close the office today, he still insists.

        • Bub the Mad Zombie

          Love bosses like that. And you Yanks just elected one. He even has the nuclear codes. Fun times ahead

          • yyyaz

            Yep. We’re special, bless our shriveled little hearts.

          • NastyBossetti

            What really drives me crazy is that people always say to me, “Why are you going to be here? You’re the boss. Just make someone else come in.” I’m here because I think my people should be able to take this time with their families if that is what they want. That’s important to me.

          • Shanana Republic

            I suppose it wouldn’t be prudent to answer the “Why are you going to be here?” question with “Because I’m not a selfish asshole.”?

          • NastyBossetti

            It would feel so good to actually say what I really think, but I like to believe people get that from the expression on my face.

          • Shanana Republic

            I get in trouble a lot for that, too. Is also why I never play poker.

        • Shanana Republic

          My boss closed the office and told all (2?) of the hourly employees they’re getting paid anyway. He’s nice like that.

          (edit) And not having to use vacation time.

      • Made us come in and are paying us regular time

    • The Outraged Ms. MLG

      Not for me, and I don’t even work in retail. I blame The Man.

    • Markuserektus

      I’m on permanent weekend…

    • Kiri the Resistant Unicorn

      It’s a normal Friday for me.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Got any good news for us, WaPo linky?

    n 2018, for the first time, a number of GOP governors who were swept into power amid the 2010 Tea Party wave will be term-limited out. These include some of the most conservative public officials in the country, such as Rick Scott in Florida and Paul LePage in Maine, as well as GOP governors in key swing states, such as Rick Snyder in Michigan and John Kasich in Ohio. As the above map indicates, the GOP will be defending 14 open seats in 2018.

    Time to plan ahead!

    • Alan

      Rick Snyder was cooked anyway.

    • artem1s

      Kasich is going to be Pence’s VP once they 25th Drumpf’s ass. or he is going to make a run in 2020 based on being a reasonable guy. Expect W x T = even more evil and odious to his enemies. He does hide it slightly better than T and is slightly less incompetent than W. Otherwise a real fun guy.

      • Doug Langley

        Could we PLEASE not discuss the 2020 election for another three years or so? It’ll take that long to get over my current nausea.

    • Gosala

      Scott is going to run for Senate against Nelson. It’s not over by a long chalk

  • Jeffocaster in the East

    Ode to Black Friday

    Buy a T shirt from the famous editrix
    To benefit her and Shy Pix
    Donna Rose needs new shoes
    And Evan’ll have the blues
    So put greenbacks in the mix

  • Anna Rompage

    I think I’m still suffering from a food coma…

    I’ve managed to make coffee this morning, and got a fire going in the wood stove, but that’s about it…

    • Shanana Republic

      I managed coffee and leftover pecan pie.

      • Anna Rompage

        That sounds like a lovely breakfast!

        • Shanana Republic

          Pecan pie is my favorite holiday pie. I should probably learn how to make it so I can stop groveling at my relatives.

          • Jeffocaster in the East

            Key ingredient: Bourbon.

          • Shanana Republic

            Good job I live within toddling distance of a liquor store, then.

          • Markuserektus

            #2 ingredient: pecans…

          • Shanana Republic

            Even I noticed that part!

          • Anna Rompage

            I love a good pecan pie, though it’s so rich I usually just want a little slicer of it.

            I made a pumpkin pie but instead of the normal pie dough, made a tripple ginger snap crust (muck like a graham cracker crust for cheesecake) for it. It’s a great combination!

          • Shanana Republic

            Yes my leftover pecan pie was the slice I took but couldn’t finish last night.

          • Suttree

            Ooh ooh is this where we start a war over the pronunciation of pecan? I know that the way I say is the only correct way! Pikawn!

          • Shanana Republic

            I’m not even going there! I just found out last night I’ve had my grandma’s given name wrong all my life. My uncle was kind of horrified but I said “WHAT? I didn’t know! I only ever pronounced it “GRANDMA” before!”

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            O God I love pecan pie! *drooling*

          • puredog

            I like a walnut tart even better, made in a 13″ tart pan. Mmmzers.

          • Shanana Republic

            Do you cook those and where do you live?

      • The Outraged Ms. MLG

        Pecan pie! How I love thee!

        • Bub the Mad Zombie

          It is amazing. I cannot have it around, because I will eat it all.

          • Suse

            Have you ever had it with booze in the filling? Dark rum, bourbon, Kahlua – all fabulous.

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            You aren’t helping…

      • msanthropesmr
    • Jeffocaster in the East

      Three or four cups of coffee. Many slices coffee cake. Stuffed cabbage……

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        I got the brilliant idea to keep the turkey liver–just made a seasoned turkey liver mousse. Um, yeh.

        • Jeffocaster in the East

          Oh yeah, except chicken liver…….

        • Anna Rompage

          That sounds awesome!

          I end up chopping mine up into fine bits and putting it into the stuffing

          • Shanana Republic

            That’s cheating! I bet you hide your dog’s pills on peanut butter, too!

          • Anna Rompage

            I know, I like to sneak in funky parts into the meals I cook. It’s always a hoot to see the looks on people faces when they compliment a dish, and I can say, “yeah, the heart, lungs and liver that I use really make the difference”

          • Shanana Republic

            I really tried to enjoy liver and onions because my mom liked to cook them and nobody else would go near the dish. I know she did a good job with them but…I just couldn’t manage it. Repeatedly. But good for you for not wasting things! I hate to throw the giblets/neck out of a bird and will at least cook them for gravy juice and give the solids to the cat.

          • Anna Rompage

            The funny thing is I really don’t like beef or pork liver at all, but don’t mind chicken or turkey liver, especially if they’re in something!

          • Celtic_Gnome

            We give the giblets to Brian Boru, the pet mink. He’s very appreciative.

          • Shanana Republic

            I’m sure it’s very good for his coat.

      • Anna Rompage

        Are you saying you feel like a stuffed cabbage, or had that along side your coffee cake?

        • Jeffocaster in the East

          Nope, large portion of stuffed cabbage. I am now a stuffed cabbage.

          • Shanana Republic

            I would eat stuffed cabbage, probably.

          • Parakeetist

            Me too.

          • Anna Rompage

            I loved stuffed cabbage!

    • Jennifer R

      Food sounds absolutely dreadful right now.

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      Does it have cayenne or tabasco?

    • anwisok

      Well, ain’t you all fancy! Looks phenomenal.

    • Yr. Gma

      I become even more jealous.

  • Jennifer R

    This summer I need to make kim-chee again. So tasty.

    • Shanana Republic

      Yes! It’s nasty but I like it.

      • Jennifer R

        Nasty things are fantastic.

        • Celtic_Gnome

          Nasty women are especially fantastic.

          • Jennifer R

            We are

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      I had a Korean fellow make me what he called water kimchi. It is milder and very tasty.

    • Anna Rompage

      Actually now is a great time to make kimchi as the fall is one of the best times for napa cabbage!

      I just made a gallon of it about two weeks ago!

      If anyone is interested, here’s a very decent recipe.. if you cannot find the Korean chile, you can use New Mexico chiles and a couple dry hot chiles instead. Also, you can forgo the shrimp if you cannot find it, or substitute a couple pinches of dried shrimp instead

      http://www.chowhound.com/recipes/basic-napa-cabbage-kimchi-kimchee-29505

      • Suse

        If I can’t find dried or fresh shrimp, can I use canned clams?

      • Jennifer R

        Lucky I live in a place where I can source all sorts of chili pastes.

    • therblig

      so, she’s single again?

      • Jennifer R

        Single has nothing to do with it.

  • I’m enjoying a piece of a friend’s Pineapple Upside Down Cake. It’s extremely retro looking, with whole perfectly matched canned pineapple slices arranged in concentric rings with a bright red maraschino cherry in each slice.

  • artem1s

    did a little grocery shopping for the week at CLE West Side Market this morning. Spent a few minutes talking to my greengrocer about traditional Lebanese dishes served on Thanksgiving. It features turkey cooked with All Spice over white rice and pine nuts, fattoush, and tabouli among other things. Now his brother’s family does the Pilgrim’s traditional meal (we agreed to NOT call it a traditional American thanksgiving) because in-laws. Seemed kind of sad to me. His parents have been in country for 40 years. He and his brothers were born here. Seems to me that their Thanksgiving should be considered ‘traditional American’ too.

    Not spending any other monies this day. Fuck capitalism.

    • BrianW

      Please tell your greengrocer next time you see him that as far as your friends are concerned, what he described IS a traditional American Thanksgiving. It’s what you appreciate, not what you eat.

    • TJ Barke

      Don’t freak out, but I think you may be sideways…

      • I saw that after i posted…my arguement is that they are fine in my gallery on my phone

      • Yr. Gma

        It’s a Canadian thing. :) Seriously, all this talk of the art and the gift shop and Toronto is making me homesick. I usually do my “being Canadian” in Victoria, which is so much closer to me, and I haven’t been to Toronto in ages.

        • 2nd trip in two months….but only live 2 hours away

          • Yr. Gma

            Have you done the Gardiner? I remember a fabulous gift store.

          • No…is that the one in Boston with the famous Mystery Robbery?

          • Suse

            I think so.

          • Yr. Gma

            No the Toronto ceramics museum near the ROM. Wonderful originals of pots and so forth in the gift shop. Fascinating Canadian artifacts exhibit. It’s a small place.

    • Kiri the Resistant Unicorn
      • Oddly, ay least two of the Gallery rooms here are laid out in impressionist style- 20 paintings all hanging on one wall. You get map like in the chocolatr box to figure them out

      • The Outraged Ms. MLG

        I have always loved Hut of Baba Yaga.

    • Shoto

      Needz Moar Paint-by-Numbers.

    • Mmmm Floorburger.

  • bookish

    From USAToday, here’s a summary of the WaPo information on Russian fake news stories.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/11/25/reports-russian-operation-boosted-fake-news-phenomenon/94424206/

    • Markuserektus

      Thanks Zuckerberg!

      • zerosumgame0005

        seems he spells it ZucKKKerberg

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Disinformation. Old Soviet trick. Old Russian trick (Protocols of the Elders of Zion, anyone?). The Russian ruling class has always been repressive scum.

      • yyyaz

        And now they have enshrined one of their own for us. How global of them.

  • Reality Kills

    I saw Donald is hiring people from Fox News and Breitbart. They as well found the Minister of Propaganda and put Josseph Goebbels as the leader. They are talking about how to spot fake news. Well, people better polish and hone that skill because for the next four years that’s all what we going to hear from Donald’s administration!

    • Anna Rompage

      Sean Hannity – press secretary…

      • Shoto

        Sean Hannity for “Secretary of $500 Haircuts on $5 Heads.”

      • Bub the Mad Zombie

        That would just about make the nut, wouldn’t it?

      • Oh jeeze, it’ll be “the President’s secret plan to fight inflation” every day

        • Villago Delenda Est

          WIN buttons! Whip Inflation Now!

      • btwbfdimho

        I can’t wait for Martin Shkreli running the Food & Drug Administration!

        • Shanana Republic

          God, this stuff just writes itself these days, doesn’t it?

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Oh god that organization already has no teeth. They want to declaw it too?!

        • Suse

          I’m sure Drumpf admires his business smarts bigly.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        There’s a FB meme going around of people applying for various cabinet positions based on having zero qualifications.

      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        Still my prediction.

      • Doug Langley

        Kellyann Conway.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Will make Ron Nessen look like a righteous dude. Ron Ziegler, for that matter.

    • nightmoth

      We may as well start preparing hidden rooms in the attics and basements now.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        If only more of us had old houses, with nooks and crannies and hidden rooms you could hide a person in.

        • nightmoth

          I’m happy you’re going to university overseas (if I understood that correctly.)

  • Serai 1

    Here’s a link people might find useful:

    http://ezgif.com/

    You can use that site to mess with your pics, including rotating them so they’re not sideways. The site takes jpgs, gifs, and pngs. There’s a bunch of effects, etc., so if you don’t have a graphics program, you can still do some basic pic stuff. Great place for gif-making. Have fun!

    • Ooo…that’s not directed at me!

      • Serai 1

        LOL, I thought of it when I saw your pics, but I’ve seen other sideways pics here, too, and people usually say something about not having a way to change them. I’ve been using the site to make gifs and do basic stuff with my own pics, so I’m spreading the link.

  • ok. done at the museum. not meeting my sister for dinner until 530, so, like 2 hours to kill….any suggesions?

    • TJ Barke

      Serial murder?

      • No place readily available for clean up

        • Suse

          Used book store browsing?

          • Already carrying overnight bag and museum shopping. Shan’s idea is looking like a winner

          • Suse

            I’m not seeing her post.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          If FMC wasn’t working today I could have him show you how to dispose of the bodies.

      • therblig

        yeah, but you get in a rut after a while. go for the thrill kill spree.

    • Shanana Republic

      Find a cafe with free wifi and Wonk at us?

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        Harder to do in Toronto than you think.

  • Suse

    Is it 2020 yet?

  • Suse

    Whut is that post below? Can’t reply to it.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      It’s already been deleted I guess.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      It was from Trump’s Secretary of Commerce.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      Can send it to the cornfield, tho…

  • Kiri the Resistant Unicorn

    So anyway, apparently this is the photo that Trumpy was bitching about a few days ago that he thinks makes him look like a double-chinned doofus which it totally does ’cause he totally is:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f6f68d4c8a52c2361e836ebfa28131bf7623411b494f10e557fdba0194a98d56.jpg

    So, you know, don’t go posting it all over the place with bold-faced, all-caps captions like PUTATIVE PRESIDENT PUTINPUPPY PUSSYGRABBER and such like.

    • TJ Barke
      • NastyBossetti

        I hear he’s going to remove all mirrors from the White House, for showing him in a manner he deems unflattering.

        • therblig

          and demand that white house servants not make eye contact.

      • The media has to get along with him, and only post pretty pictures of him, because the media’s job is to make him feel special and important!

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      That’s not even the photo MSNBC uses of him? Wasn’t he complaining about MSNBC specifically? What?

    • NastyBossetti

      That’s actually one of the more flattering pictures I’ve seen of him, sadly for him.

      • Shanana Republic

        He looks like he needs some X-Lax.

        • Mary Sandoras

          I really don’t think the US has a large enough supply to clean the BS out of the Yam.

    • nightmoth

      good image for a “not my president” meme

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Well, he is a double chinned doofus. Too fucking bad. Ivanka, please change the crybaby’s diapers.

    • Doug Langley

      You mean, as opposed to all his other photos?

  • snark-lurker

    hey guys youknowut youknowut youknowut?

    purdy shure here we all gonna hang together soon as PigDon gets powah and ahrests us all for sedition ie.making fun of the Dumphuckdikstik
    keep yerselfs in clean undies

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      With any luck I’ll have escaped to Windsor and will be able to safely laugh from a distance.

      • snark-lurker

        luuukeee

      • Suse

        You’re going to live with Liz and Phil?

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          No, I applied for university there.

  • Suse

    I have an etiquette question. We are supposed to have some good friends over for dinner tomorrow night. I was going to clean and shop today (with hubby’s help) and cook tomorrow. I’ve been feeling crappy all week with a chronic pain thing and am dreading the whole thing. Is it okay to cancel or should I soldier on? I will offer another date if I cancel.

    • NastyBossetti

      I’m really bad at etiquette, but I think if you are sick or in pain, your friends should understand that!

    • Shanana Republic

      I would say cancel because you’ll be better company when you’re not feeling crappy.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Rescheduling is not cancelling and is totally OK. Do it ASAP though so they know.

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      I would cancel. Invite other friends over and post the festivities on your Facebook page. Caption: Friends over, avoiding boring time with _______.

      • That is so mean I snorted at work here and my co worker is all what? What?

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        Are you Satan?

        • Jeffocaster in the East

          Please let me introduce myself…..

      • Suse

        Hahaha!

      • NastyBossetti

        I would like to sit at your table at all the parties.

        • msanthropesmr

          No you wouldn’t. He tells long boring stories that don’t go anywhere about forgetting to tighten the wheel nuts on his mother’s volkswagen in the 60s.

          • Jeffocaster in the East

            I haven’t told that story in years….or the McDonald’s 15 cent hamburger one either….

          • msanthropesmr

            Well, your meat may be fresh, but baby, I’ve been meaning to speak to you about your buns.

      • I have considered this. But it would be a picture of me, by myself, in my pajamas, watching movies

        • Jeffocaster in the East

          I think that is great. Taking care of NUMBER 1. Popcorn and some alcoholic beverages?

    • I think it is ok to reschedule due to illness. In fact, I am VERY sure it is ok to reschedule due to illness.

      • Suse

        I know – I just feel bad about it. They’re so looking forward to it.

        • They will still look forward to it, just on another day. Bonus, ask them for days that would be good for THEM to reschedule to. That will make up a little for it.
          :snuggle:

          • Shanana Republic

            Yes, this, with the bonus.

        • Jeffocaster in the East

          Do the dinner over Skype.

          • Shanana Republic

            There are lots of websites out there for people who like to watch other people eat over the internet.

            Or so I’ve heard.

        • therblig

          if they’re looking forward to seeing you and are good friends, they’ll want you at your best and will undoubtedly understand.

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        Prez Geo HW Bush did not reschedule and the Prime Minister of Japan was fine with it.

        • efoveks

          That;s because Texan men can be weird. God love him, LBJ would have done the same as Bush 43.

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            Better to be inside the tent puking out than outside the tent puking in.

            Or something like that.

    • msanthropesmr

      I say invite them over and then barf on them.

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        Hmmm, I think I did something wrong with this one….

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      So I looked up Amy Vanderbilt’s take on this and she said, “It depends on the friends’ bank balance and social standing.” Furthermore, she goes on to say that if you agree with their politics it is OK to reschedule provided there is no general election between the date of invitation and the reschedule. This avoids surprise conversations.

    • efoveks

      Reschedule. If they are good friends, I’m sure they’ll understand. Especially if you offer an alternative date.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    So nice of Don Jr to take some time out from his Roman Feast to tweet and think of the rest of us.

    Here us the first third of their family menu. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-s-thanksgiving-dinner-featured-24-dishes-n688241

    Mar-a-Lago Chilled Seafood Display
    Large Florida Stone Crabs
    Oysters on the Half Shell
    Jumbo Shrimp
    Middle Neck Clams

    From the Garden
    Mr. Trump’s Wedge Salad
    Farm-Fresh Deviled Eggs
    Roasted Vegetable Cous Cous Salad
    Ahi Tuna Martinis

    https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/801853513307488256

    • Shanana Republic

      That doesn’t look catered in AT all, does it?

      • Shanana Republic

        Seriously. No way was any of that stuffed cooked in the pans it’s in.

    • msanthropesmr

      Mr. Trump’s Wedge Salad. What is that?

      • therblig

        sounds like ill fitting underwear involved. not hungry anymore.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        The better question is, where’s the mac and cheese??? It’s not on the menu and it’s not in the picture. God, what monsters.

      • Jamoche

        I’m surprised I can’t find it on Lileks’ Gallery of Regrettable Foods: start with iceberg lettuce, because flavors are scary. Cut into eighths. Add a slice of tomato – again, the force-grown supermarket kind that taste like nothing at all. Pour ranch dressing over it all, enough that even the Ranch Dressing Lady is happy. Top with bacon bits from a jar, because it isn’t tacky enough yet.

    • TJ Barke

      Look at all those future leaders of the Reich…

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        Isn’t the one in the back a bit dark? Alt-right wants to know.

        • therblig

          wondering the same

        • Suse

          Must be the maid’s kid.

        • House0fTheBlueLights

          It’s Ivanka oldest daughter. Protip–neither she nor her mother are actually blonds. Not taking any bets on the Donald’s natural hair color either.

          • TJ Barke

            Fake as fuck.

    • Serai 1

      Ahi Tuna Martinis

      That just says it all, doesn’t it?

    • Suse

      That’s his kitchen? Looks pretty generic and low class to me. Where is the gold?

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      What the hell room is that? This is the luxury resort? It looks like a suburban rec room.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I have actually seen suburban rec rooms that are much nicer, I’m pretty sure that’s a generic cardboard set of a generic living room apartment.

      • mancityhombres

        and they have an honest to god kid’s table

        • ltmcdies

          nice ….they feed their Trump kids in the kitchen with the help?

    • ltmcdies

      are Don Jr…..are you expecting me to believe that just out of camera range aren’t the brown people you have slaving in what appears to be a rather plain kitchen

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Aww, that’s so cute. They let the kids actually see where the help spends their Thanksgiving.

  • Blacktop Cadence

    So, this is kind of a rough thing to ask, but I thought I should I ask. The big thing that is bothering me over my coming out last night is how my dad reacted.

    He wasn’t negative, but good lord, he obsessed over the the fact that no one else is as clean and orderly and project orientated as he is. It took us ten minutes and tears to get him off the subject of how my not being super clean in my room — and let’s be honest, I’m not that bad — means that I’m not dedicated enough to go through this. Go figure. That seems incredibly insane to me today. I mean, you eldest just came out, and you want to talk about dirty socks on the floor?

    Anyway, he’s been obsessively cleaning today, and I’ve been kind of wondering if he’s ill. This is a problem in the family where everyone is tired of being criticized for not tirelessly dedicating themselves to maintaining his level of appearances.

    Honestly, last night, after my brother finally managed to derail him, he said some cursory remarks, cleaned up some leftovers, and went into the other room while my brother and I talked with my stepmom.

    I know bipolar disorder runs in my family on his side, but I can’t even begin to recognize if this is that.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      That sounds like he wants you to be a caricature of a stereotypical white suburban housewife in the 50s, almost. Have you ever talked to him about seeing a therapist?

      • Blacktop Cadence

        He’d never do it, but last night makes me really, really question if he shouldn’t.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Yeah, being that obsessed with cleanliness is pretty big indicator. I know because thinking about cleaning and looking at messes gives me anxiety attacks.

          • Blacktop Cadence

            I guess I should talk to my stepmom tonight.

    • Not to be terrible, but it is my relfex…can i borrow this for personal gain? My apt is a disaster

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Haha, feel free. You can borrow him too, if you want.

    • Suse

      Golly, that’s a tough one. It sounds like OCD at the very least. Plus, you dropped a huge bombshell on him. What do your brother and step-mom think of his reaction?

      • Blacktop Cadence

        I haven’t brought it up. I know my brother was incredulous during the actual discussion, though. He was almost shouting. If my dad hadn’t finally bent I think both he and I would have walked off.

        • Suse

          I really admire your courage in going through with your transition. Hugs to you!

          • Blacktop Cadence

            Eh, as I explained last night, it’s more like an act of desperation as opposed to one of courage, but thank you. :-D

          • Shanana Republic

            But you did it anyway. I think that’s where the courage part is real.

        • jowgajen

          The Disorder part of any mental health situation refers to how the behaviour or thoughts affect your ability to lead your daily life and progress towards your life goals. Just needing a few days to obsess over cleanliness after a major stressor isn’t necessarily a disorder. We all have to keep an eye out for times when our tendencies become harmful rather than coping.

          My suggestion is that you pursue some family therapy sessions related to adjusting to your transition if at all possible.

    • Walter Wellstone

      He’s probably got OCD and is using it as a safe place to hide from the change you just inflicted on him. I’m willing to bet he’s more upset about the change than about you coming out. OCD is all about keeping change at bay because change is scary and unpredictable. If this is the case you should show him that what’s changing is not going to harm him and that can safely go back to the patterns he’s familiar with and be safe again. Congratulations on coming out and good luck bringing your dad back from the dark place he went into. It’s not impossible but it may take time.

      • mancityhombres

        change is scary and unpredictable
        which is why I like to rearrange my living quarters every so often
        it freaks the cats out

    • Shanana Republic

      My stepdad used to get mad and yell at me when he was scared for or worried about me. It took me a long time to figure out that’s one of the ways he expressed his caring. He was also very much an organized neat freak type of person and pounded it into my head all my life that “a disorderly space is the sign of a disorderly mind” so I KIND of get what you’re saying. Maybe?

      Some people don’t find it easy to shut their mouths and open their arms. They have to express their emotions/concern in ways that they think are “productive” or something. I’m sure he wants the best for you, he just doesn’t know how to let YOU know that. And he possibly needs to feel like he’s maintaining some sort of control over his environment (not necessarily YOU) because he feels personally out of control. So, cleaning and tidying is his refuge.

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Maybe. I get that this may have had a helluva swing, and this may be his reaction.

        But it’s also terribly familiar. This seems to be an ongoing problem to where he’s even annoyed my stepmom several times over the last year because she bothered to leave unopened mail and her bag on the counter.

        I mean, both my brother and I have discussed we prefer to avoid him on days he’s like this.

        I’m just worried that if he is sick he won’t get help.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Tricking or bribing him into going to therapy would probably benefit him. Not that I’m saying you should do that. Side note, what pronouns do you prefer?

          • Blacktop Cadence

            I’m she/her around here. :-D Still presenting male in person, though.

            I’m going to start that discussion with my stepmom. It’ll have to come from her and not us, almost certainly.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Family or couples therapy is a little bit easier for them to agree to.

    • Alan

      I am obsessively clean and you have to realize that, while everyone else may be tired of being criticized for not being clean enough, he is very tired of living with people who he perceives as not being clean. Nobody is right, nobody is wrong, people are just different and the objective is to decide what each person is willing to accept from the other person. That’s how marriages work although most people don’t get it. You can’t make another person change if they see nothing wrong with themselves and they’re happy with who they are. It’s about whether or not they can accept each other’s flaws. I am flawed because I’m obsessive compulsive and my wife is flawed because she’s a slob. But I’m happy being obsessive compulsive and she’s happy being a slob. You just decide whether you can stand the other person the way they are. And no, he’s not mentally ill, he deals with things differently than you do and he’s perfectly fine with that. Cleaning is cathartic and there’s nothing at all wrong with him just because you do things differently. Maybe the dirty socks on the floor are more important to him than what you are as long as you are healthy and happy, that’s all I hope for my kids. Food for thought.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    And I just unsubscribed from Bloomingdales’ e-mails. They gave me the chance to tell them why I did so, and I commented that I have no interest in shopping at a store that sees fit to sell Trump merchandise (Ivanka’s line in their case.) It’s something…

    • Rock on! Everything on the Trump boycott list that i ever would have possibly shopped at i was already boycotting for the right wing views of the founders/owners

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        I was just going to get something at Bed Bath and Beyond before I saw their name on the boycott list. Glad I saved my money!

        • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

          Nooooooooooo!

          What am I going to do with all those 20% coupons?

        • Suse

          What Ivanka shit do they sell?

          • Resistance Fighter Callyson

            A quick search online showed shoes and bags. I didn’t check out the details because I just Googled it to make sure I was correct before I told Bloomie’s “it’s not me, it’s you.”

  • shastakoala

    I’m off work till after Christmas break. I’m shopping! Probably the first and last time I can get away with spending too much money. I’m gonna milk my illness for all it’s worth. :)

    • efoveks

      I hope you are felling better!

    • Sorry you are sick :huggles: Even if you get to be off until after Christmas break XD

    • Suse

      Looks like Portland, OR.

      • Yr. Gma

        Toronto is roughly the same latitude (and no polar bears walking the icy streets.)

        • Which one has polar bears? They wouldn’t survive the traffic in Toronto

          • Villago Delenda Est

            They’d get stuck on the Fremont Bridge at rush hour in Portland.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Did I tell you guys about the time we saw a guy who thought his lighters were guns and then we saw the same guy a couple weeks later on a back street with a duffel bag we immediately realized was full of drugs?

      • That seems less fun..

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          We laughed forever, especially because my instinctive reaction (I wasn’t wearing my glasses and it was very dark) was to assume he was actually dangerous and ask questions later until I realized that was a really poor idea and FMC pulled me to the side of the sidewalk and told me to wait for him to pass. Apparently I am more aggressive than I remember.

    • Sure, why not?
      Its the catwomen you have to worry about, especially up north where they might freeze to death

      • SayItWithWookies

        “If it’s too cold for you, it’s too cold for your superheroes — bring them inside!”

        • Serai 1

          Oh sure, you try getting Batman inside when he wants to go hunting!

  • NastyBossetti

    This guy sure is charming, and I would definitely like to be trapped in close quarters, like on an airplane, with him!
    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/802213440513310720

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Well, Delta sucks.

      • Suse

        They always have.

    • Suse

      JFC! Welcome to the great again America.

    • TJ Barke

      America! Grate as fuck!

      • efoveks

        Mmmmmmm. Cheese….

        • Suse

          Cedar cheese!

    • efoveks

      Well, ain’t he a drunken peach? He certainly is “the pits”– hahahahahahahahahaha!

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Get this motherfucking terrist off our motherfucking plane!

      • Suse

        If he was of a dusky hue, they would have gone medieval on his ass.

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      Fucking worthless ignorant redneck piece of shit.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        Generally, I don’t think anyone is worthless. This election has proved to me that I was right, these people are actually worse and actively harmful.

    • Donald Trump, he’s not bring out the best. They’re rascists, they’re misogynists. some, i’m sure are not total “human” garbage

    • OrG

      Dude does that at the wrong time he’ll get his ass kicked.

      • Bub the Mad Zombie

        One can only hope.

    • therblig

      he heard those factory jobs are back and wants to prove billy joel wrong.

    • The Outraged Ms. MLG

      It must be difficult living every moment of your life with crippling insecurity about your genitalia. If only none of the rest of us had to be affected by it.

      • mancityhombres

        It is, but I don’t go around letting everyone know about it.
        I’m insecure enough as it is.

        • The Outraged Ms. MLG

          Bless your…..heart! ;)

    • NastyBossetti

      I keep thinking about that man who was escorted off a plane earlier this year because he was doing math (not a crime, not threatening!), and someone saw it and thought he was writing something in Arabic (also not a crime, not threatening!).
      But THIS guy gets to go to his destination unmolested?

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      Can you imagine someone who vote for Clinton standing up on an airplane and stating: “this is Hillary’s America, redneck bitches!” and challenging anyone who doesn’t like it to leave the country? It would never happen – because people who voted for Clinton are not pathetically insecure, bigoted, misogynistic assholes.

      This idiot should have been escorted off the plane by the police for disrupting a commercial flight. Had an African-American stood up and yelled “Black lives matter!” he would have been off. Had a Muslim prayed in Arabic for the safety of the aircraft and everyone aboard, he would have been off. But this redneck shitstain got to his destination and is undoubtedly regaling his equally braindead friends and family with tales of his “heroism.”

      Jesus Christ this is infuriating.

      • jowgajen

        I dunno, I can see my self saying “This is Hillary’s America, redneck bitches.” I live in CA, I may say that anyways … hmmm.

      • NastyBossetti

        Once I was on a plane with a guy who yelled and then stripped totally down naked in security because he was mad they made him take his jacket off. (This was not too long after 9/11.) That guy scared me less than the guy in this video yelling about Trump. I don’t really get what makes these people think everyone else will/should just bow down to their nonsense now, but I really really wish someone would have told him to shut the fuck up.

    • The whole country is turning into that creepy Hardee’s in Ardmore, Alabama where we used to stop to get a biscuit.

      • NastyBossetti

        I live in a town called Ardmore (not in AL, though), so when I first read this, I was like… wait, we don’t have a Hardee’s! And how do you know where I live?!

  • Suse

    RIP Florence Henderson. :-(

    • 2016. The. Literal. Worst.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        NOT AGAIN! This year has REALLY sucked in the deaths (and election) departments.

        • Next Halloween, and all Halloweens thereafter, when called upon to dress as the worst thing imaginable, everyone tapes a 2016 calendar to their chests

          • NastyBossetti

            oh man… I hope I remember this next year!

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      Does this mean the Bradys are orphans? Sad…..

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Dad (Robert Reed) passed a few years back, so yes, they’re all orphans and not of the Menendez brother variety.

        • therblig

          well, tbh, once Alice died, they all started slowly starving anyway

  • ltmcdies

    so watching my Tweeter feed and it seems Trump is going full Joffrey Baratheon and wanting Romney to kneel and kiss his ring and apologize for all the badness Romney said about him…

    then maybe he can SOS….((((wink)))

    yeh we’ve seen how this plays out, Mitt…..

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    I was afraid of this:

    “If there were something to do here, there are a lot of us who would be jumping on it,” said Adam Bonin, a Philadelphia election law attorney who represents Democrats.

    Mr. Bonin said that while every election has “little hitches and glitches, I haven’t seen anything which would cause me to question the results.” Nor, he said, “have I ever seen evidence that would lead me to call the machines into question.”

    “I’m sympathetic to the notion that we should move to a system where there is a more auditable balloting process,” he said. But “You can’t just go on a fishing expedition. You have to have allegations of specific fraud, or machines that didn’t accept votes.”

    Oh well…

    • House0fTheBlueLights
      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I think sometimes Democrats don’t want to stoke outrage without realizing the outrage is already there.

      • pstockholm

        Very depressing, the silence of Democratic politicians. Looking at my CT Democrats, 2 Senators one Congressperson – one press release each on Bannon, nothing on other questionable appointments, nothing on “no mandate”, nothing on conflicts of interest. They’re fine on normal issues, but these are not normal times. They all deserve to get primaried.

    • msanthropesmr

      Can we contest based on stupid? Will that work?

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      The electors know that Hillary won by popular vote, therefore I would think they are free to vote for her. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Was “I’m pretty sure Russians have hacked the voting machines in these counties *list of counties* in these swing states and here’s why” not specific enough?

      • They wanna know specific machines and have specific complainants Because….I don’t even know. But that is what they want I think

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Because that’s nearly impossible and it pretty much makes it impossible to ask for a recount or a look into the machines. Because America sucks at democracy and governing and just in general, apparently.

    • Yr. Gma

      That’s why we have tasked Jill to do it.

    • bookish

      Hilz and Bamz have to take the high road. The rest of us are free agents.

  • willi0000000

    from the AP_ site: “Putin, Trump speak by phone, agree to work to improve ties”

    is there any possible explanation why i might have read that as “lies” . . . ?

    • Vecchiojohn

      No need to improve their lies, they’re working just fine.

    • pstockholm

      Well Trump has some godawful ties, but they’re made in China so can’t see how Putin can help.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I’m going to guess “child slavery” here. And now I’m going to throw up.

  • Courser

    Yes ‘Becca, I will buy stuff from you tomorrow, when my wallet is unfrozen.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Unfrozen Caveman Wallet?

      • Courser

        :::snort::: sure, let’s go with that…

  • Apple Scruff

    Kneel before Zod?

    A transition official told Fox’s Ed Henry that some in Trump’s inner circle want the former Massachusetts governor to apologize in order to be seriously considered for the secretary of State.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307521-report-trump-team-wants-romney-to-apologize

    • Huh. Do not remember bamz ever demanding Hillz apologize. Or..anyone else for that matter.
      How funny. And when I mean funny I am thinking jesus fucking Christ, America, DO YOU GET IT YET???

      • ltmcdies

        I don’t think some Americans will “get it” until Trump starts demanding their first born sons

        • boyblue123

          and then the Trumpanzees will gladly hand over their sons

          • Sheepshagger

            “Boy ain’t right no how lurlene”.

    • boyblue123

      Wants him to apologize just to be considered for the role of Secretary of State

      • Sheepshagger

        I feel like you fill the role well of someone who simply repeats trumps pronouncements with a tone of amazed disbelief. A valuable purpose.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          It really does help to read what he’s saying or hear it in a different voice to realize how completely insane and nonsensical he is.

        • So like, basically most of America for the next 4 years

          • Sheepshagger

            “War with Hong Kong. War with Hong Kong”.

        • boyblue123

          Yesterday he tweeted:

          Happy Thanksgiving to everyone…even to all the losers and haters

          Is this real life? I guess it is now

          • NastyBossetti

            Not sure if it says more about me or him that I had to check if this was true.

    • Sheepshagger

      Well I bet Mitt will show that spine of steel we all know so well.

      • mancityRed6

        that made me LOL

      • Apple Scruff

        I can’t see him doing it. I think Drumpf has just been dragging this out for the suspense and will just appoint Giuliani either way.

        • mancityRed6

          Mittens has a car elevator to worry about.
          He can’t be SOS

          • Marion in Savannah

            And doesn’t he still need to foot the bill for feed and shoes for the dancing horse Rafalca?

          • Querolous

            Rafalca is no longer with us. She has gone to the great pasture in the sky.

          • therblig

            depends on the shingle

          • mancityRed6

            cedar?

          • therblig

            for republicans? asbestos!

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          He announced Nikki Haley though and she hates him too so I have the slightest sliver of hope.

      • Yr. Gma

        That’s what I’m afraid of.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      “What, is your favorite color?”

      • TJ Barke

        Blue. No! Yellooooooooooooo!

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson
      • TJ Barke

        It’s so unfair that he got an estimated 3 billion in free media coverage…

    • It’s not even that they want him to apologize- it is that they leak that information to the fucking press.
      And the press just eat it up. SQUIRREL!!! Never mind me speaking to Putin even though I am not yet in charge! SQUIRRRRRREEELLL!!!!!

    • Alan

      I hope he tells him to go fuck himself (and then tweets it). Not like he actually needs a job.

      • YayConspiracy

        And uses ‘the face’ in the tweet.

    • ltmcdies

      American TV media…..are you embarrassed YET?

      you helped make the Orange One what he is today…and you should be so very embarrassed

      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        Why? They’re above the results–they think, anyway–and a Trump Dynasty promises to be very…entertaining. For them.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The Drumpf doofi should apologize to America. And the only apology we’ll entertain is a Captain Needa apology.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      I don’t think words mean anything to Trump. He insulted so many he is now considering for posts. He will say anything that will benefit him. When Romney said Trump would be horrible, he meant it.

  • mancityRed6
    • Apple Scruff

      You mean this one? The one everyone’s been retweeting today because we’re not trolling him at all?

      https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/801961176204771328

      • YayConspiracy

        Isn’t that his normal face?

        • mancityRed6

          that’s the one

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          that’s his “what’s Pence doing back there? I thought he was anti ghey…” face

        • Celtic_Gnome

          Hope so. I’d hate to think that’s his O face.

          • Lambsendbeds

            I don’t EVER want to think about Trump’s O face…I’m sure Melanoma doesn’t either.

      • boyblue123

        hes got that turkey neck going on

      • Blacktop Cadence

        DERP

      • Shanana Republic

        That face makes me hear a fart noise.

        • mancityRed6

          sorry
          I’d blame it on the dog if I had one

          • Shanana Republic

            Trump doesn’t have any dogs to blame it on, either.

      • Bub the Mad Zombie

        Seeing as how Hillary Clinton faced questions about her goddamn emails every time she spoke to the press for the last few years, I think every journalist who speaks to Donnie should ask the following question: “Mr. President, how do you feel about the fact that you lost the popular vote by a substantial margin, and that your accession to the office of President was likely only achieved by Russian hacking and the archaic electoral college system? *then flash the above photo* And by the way…what’s up with this picture?”

        • mancityRed6

          it should be the file photo go to for every story about trump.
          also, ask about the taxes every chance they get

        • Apple Scruff

          He needs to be reminded every fucking day that he lost the popular vote. It’s already sticking in his craw, he needs to never forget it.

      • Kiri the Resistant Unicorn
    • SayItWithWookies

      Jesus fucking Christ — between the options of not being a hateful Nazi shitgibbon or making the entire fucking world portray you as not one, it’s just fucking unbelievably a mark of his character that he’d choose option number two. Fucking ten pounds of narcissistic bullshit in in a five-pound sack, he is — I’m gonna hate the next four fucking years if he’s not in jail or exiled to some resort somewhere.

      • mancityRed6

        I misread that as “ten tons”

        • SayItWithWookies

          Your measurement is probably closer to the truth, but I stuck with the colloquial version.

    • Alan
    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      Frankly, the ones of him stalking Hillary in the last debate are the worst.

  • Thiazin Red

    I’ve been looking at books for presents, and if I were dictator of books I would declare a moratorium on using “The ______’s Daughter” as a title.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      I would require everyone use “The _____’s Son” until everyone realized how stupid that is. It would take an hour, maybe? (This includes all books with male main characters previously written.)

    • Sheepshagger
      • Thiazin Red

        Where is the one about the English professor letching on the student from, because its gross and I want to make sure i never accidentally read it.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        This is so funny to me because I tend to avoid male authors for this very reason and I have never once written a female this way.

        • Sheepshagger

          Is that because you’re conflicted about your raw sexual magnetism after the tragic and character forming incident from your youth?

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            *giggles until she snorts* No, it’s because I’m an aggressive, alarmingly open asexual eternal optimist person and it makes no sense to sum up people by their sexuality and appearance alone, linking even things that are in no way related to those two traits simply because of their gender.

            But also that much stupidity pisses me off.

          • bookish

            Who told?

        • Thiazin Red

          The older I get, the less tolerant of sexism and/or lack of female characters in books I get.

      • NastyBossetti

        oh my god this is so great!

    • msanthropesmr

      Hmmm. The Guide to Small Audio Signal Design’s Daughter.

      The Tube Amplifier Design Guide’s Daughter

      Weird.

      • Sheepshagger

        KL : A History Of The Nazi Concentration Camps Daughter?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        Miss 12AX7

        • msanthropesmr

          I’m more of an ST-Shape kinda guy.

        • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

          5U4GTB’s daughter?

      • YayConspiracy

        Creative writing for dummy’s daughter.

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      Ivanka: I’m just a gold digger’s daughter.

      • Yr. Gma

        I think Tiffany can sing that song, too.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        I would call her biography “Empty: A Blue-Blooded Con-Artist” myself, but to each their own.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      At least The General’s Daughter is a bit comedic.

      • Querolous

        La fille du régiment ?

    • SayItWithWookies

      How about “the girl” titles — The Girl on the Train’s Daughter — that’s hit material right there, just needs a story.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Say, that social media fit Trump to trump a Caesar: damn the laws and protocols just
    tweet the plebes a teaser.

  • Shanana Republic

    Since it’s been a while since anybody posted anything about food, I’m making chicken teryaki tonight.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Well, that’s a coincidence, because I’m eating leftover steak teriaki rice right now for lunch!

      • Shanana Republic

        My son wants me to make fried rice to go with ours but…meh. I’m not a fan.

        • mancityRed6

          just point him in the direction of the stove and have a fire extinguisher at the ready

    • I am having Thai at a restaurant

      • Shanana Republic

        That sounds lovely! Enjoy!

    • Anna Rompage

      I have turkey bone broth going from the Caracas from yesterday and am making Turkey & Dumplings!

      The secret to this thanksgiving leftover tradition is mixing half left over gravy, with the bone broth!

      • Shanana Republic

        Yum! My teryaki is a concession to my son, who was disappointed that I didn’t bring home any leftovers. I said if he wanted turkey that bad, he should have come with us!

        • Anna Rompage

          I will definitely be ready for something other than traditional Americana sometime within the next couple of days!

    • tehbaddr

      Why would you have a lesser fowl beast around at this time of the year?

      • Shanana Republic

        Because I have never cooked a whole turkey in my life. The thought it terrifying.

        • tehbaddr

          You really must do it some time, face your fear, rise above!

  • Shanana Republic

    Well, this happened:

    http://elections.wi.gov/node/4436

    Date: November 25, 2016
    MADISON, WI – The Wisconsin Elections Commission today received two recount petitions from the Jill Stein for President Campaign and from Rocky Roque De La Fuente, Administrator Michael Haas announced.

    “The Commission is preparing to move forward with a statewide recount of votes for President of the United States, as requested by these candidates,” Haas said.

    “We have assembled an internal team to direct the recount, we have been in close consultation with our county clerk partners, and have arranged for legal representation by the Wisconsin Department of Justice,” Haas said. “We plan to hold a teleconference meeting for county clerks next week and anticipate the recount will begin late in the week after the Stein campaign has paid the recount fee, which we are still calculating.”

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      I hope they find evidence Russia hacked the machines and they indict Donald.

      • tehbaddr

        Yes! The smoking empty Vodka bottle! Wait wut?

  • Msgr_Moment

    I only went shopping today for food, because otherwise the Msgra. would be upset when she gets back any minute now.
    We’re doing “thanksgiving” tomorrow at our son’s for his first got-my-own-apartment thanksgiving.
    Also, I’ve baked my granola for several weeks and two blueberry crumb pies. I’m done, thanks.

    • mancityRed6

      I’m thankful that, since I don’t have a kitchen table and don’t ever plan on getting one, when the parents come up, they’ll just take me out to dinner.
      Like they’re gonna do for christmas.

      • Shanana Republic

        Christmas enchiladas?

        • mancityRed6

          No, probably christmas at Stroud’s.
          Fried chicken is good every day of the year.
          Wait, why is my left arm hurting?

    • therblig

      i was supposed to do duck/tofurkey for the family today, but after cooking all day yesterday to take to friend’s, i was wiped out. maybe tomorrow now that they’re both defrosted.

  • Nounverb911
    • tehbaddr

      Or maybe not, see above.

      • Nounverb911

        I saw that, that’s why I’m confused.

  • Suse
    • mancityRed6

      is it bad that I only hear Eddie Murphy’s voice?

    • The Outraged Ms. MLG

      I just want to pinch that adorable little ass!

      • mancityRed6

        “Alex, things never said to me for $500!”

        • The Outraged Ms. MLG

          Look at MancityRed6. I want to pinch that adorable little ass, right on his cheeks!

          There. I said it!

          • mancityRed6

            Yea! I got a dime coming from someone!

          • The Outraged Ms. MLG

            Collect!

  • BadKitty904

    OT: Possibly already posted, but I know that y’all want to keep up with the latest from the GOP, our “Party of Personal Responsibility and Family Values”…

    GOP Lawmaker Who Sexted Teen Boy Says He’s ‘Not Gay’ in Bizarre Interview
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-yenni-text-messages-not-gay_us_58386dfde4b09b6056007d68

    • Suse

      I would expect nothing less.

    • Nounverb911

      Is his lawyer Larry Craig?

      • mancityRed6

        spiritual adviser

    • The Outraged Ms. MLG

      He stays in keeping with our current way of doing shit here in the US. He did it. He admits it. But he doesn’t believe it. And beliefs are stronger than facts!

      • BadKitty904

        I.e.: “He lied.”

    • Msgr_Moment

      Sounds like he needs an extra “recharge” at the Bachmann Institute.

      • Querolous

        “Recharge?” Let me take it from here! Darth Pence

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      “To simply say it, I’m not gay,” Yenni told Fox8 this week. He also repeatedly said he didn’t know why he texted with the teen in the first place.

      I’ll venture a guess…

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b4386151158669af6f54f07a4c2ad8bb962a17a3d739122c306635db0302efa.jpg

      • BadKitty904

        I swear, Cally, it’s like you can read minds

    • Suse

      I hope Bannon gets caught in some kind of gross sexual or disgusting illegal thing.

      • mancityRed6

        I’m sure he pays well enough to keep their mouths shut
        or he buys a lot of concrete

        • Suse

          He looks like he would murder someone without giving it a second thought.

          • mancityRed6

            not himself, he couldn’t get out of his chair in a hurry to save his life

      • BadKitty904

        That’d be kinda redundant in his case, wouldn’t it?

      • therblig

        baaaa!

    • The Wanderer

      Not all pedophiles or pederasts are homosexual, if I recall correctly.

      • BadKitty904

        Statistically, the vast majority are not. Which means, following Republican “reasoning,” heterosexuals shouldn’t be allowed to raise children.

        • Dazza

          Brilliant.

    • Anna Rompage

      Gay? maybe, maybe not…

      Pedophile – most certainly…

      • BadKitty904

        If proven, yet another Reichpublican criminal in public office.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      “It’s not that he’s a boy. It’s the youth.” Line from a book I read many years ago.

      • BadKitty904

        Either way, it’s a crime.

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    Welp I get to find out if I have the diabeetus today. Also going to ask if I can have an anti anxiety pill.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • mancityRed6

      I guess all the kids were too busy looking at cats and memes to read her actual fucking website
      no, I’m not angry, why do you ask?

  • shivaskeeper

    Unfortunately I did have to go unplanned shopping today. Friend called and needed cow hay but his truck wouldn’t start. Cows gotta eat I guess. But no shopping for humans today.

    • Suse

      Patagonia is donating its entire take today to good causes.

      • mancityRed6

        If I could afford it, I would.
        there’s a big Welsh settlement in Patagonia, the region

        • Suse

          Really? Are they Quakers? My Welsh ancestors were.

          • mancityRed6

            http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofWales/The-History-of-Patagonia/
            It doesn’t say anything about Quakers, but I learned a few things.
            “Welsh immigrants had attempted to set up Welsh speaking colonies in order to retain their cultural identity in America. The most successful of these included ‘Welsh’ towns such as Utica in New York State and Scranton in Pennsylvania.”

          • Suse

            Mine were all in PA. Interesting.

          • mancityRed6

            I’ve read enough history about where certain immigrants ended up, they tend to go to places that remind them of home.

          • Suse

            They even named some of the towns the same as where they came from. Often, they’d change the spelling very slightly. I’m kind of a place-names nut, especially in England.

          • mancityRed6

            my first ex had some french in her, and there’s a town, a power plant and a lake south of me called Le Cygne.
            she was impressed that they said it properly.
            “lay seen”

          • Shanana Republic

            Heck, we can’t even say “Greenwich” properly here.

          • mancityRed6

            “grenwitch” is how I say it

          • Shanana Republic

            We have a main road by that name here and everyone says GREENWITCH. I only know better because of growing up with hippies who had been in GRENNICH Village and then of course going to the UK where it’s pronounced “properly” there.

            Then again, we can’t even decide locally whether Arkansas is pronounced ArKANsas or ARkansaw and we have a river by that name flowing right through the middle of town.

          • mancityRed6

            sorry, yes, I meant “greenich”
            damn my eyes
            and I prefer arkans ASS
            just like kansAss and texASS

          • Celtic_Gnome

            How did she feel about French Lick?

          • mancityRed6

            we never went that far east, she did giggle at this, though
            http://lessbeatenpaths.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/PeculiarMO1.jpg
            it’s in Missouri

          • Thiazin Red

            Utica? Really?

          • mancityRed6

            it’s a short drive away from Rome, and a little bit of a drive to Norwich and Binghampton.
            tell me those aren’t British names.
            well, ok, the Rome one.

          • Thiazin Red

            I know where it is, I’m from upstate NY, but I’ve never heard anything about a sizable Welsh population there.

            Ancient Mediterranean world names are a big thing upstate, Rome, Utica, Syracuse, Macedon, Palmyra, Egypt, etc.

          • mancityRed6

            we have a Utica in Kansas.
            and I know a lot of the hillbillys down Kentucky and Tennessee way came from Scotland.

          • mancityRed6

            are you a Jones or a Williams?
            the union member list was dominated by those two names at my factory job in N. Wales.

    • Shanana Republic

      Where do you live that they still sell humans?

      • shivaskeeper

        South Puget Sound. You just have to know where to look.

        • Shanana Republic

          I always thought Tacoma was kind of dodgy.

          • Suse

            Don’t ever go to Aberdeen!

          • Shanana Republic

            Not likely. Next time I’m in the PNW, I’ll be in Duvall.

          • shivaskeeper

            Probably want to avoid Shelton too.

    • therblig
  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • cheetojeebus

      FUCKER!! Hate, Hate, hate……

    • tehbaddr

      Fucking Grifter!

    • shivaskeeper

      Did not see that coming. I put on my shocked face.

      • Msgr_Moment

        Did environazi that coming.

    • The Wanderer

      Well, this was predictable.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Look. I am planning to contribute to the recounts. Why don’t you give your Ameros to me instead of her.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Is that you, Donald Trump?

    • Nounverb911

      I haz confuzed, people are saying she filed. Actually including her.

      https://twitter.com/ByronTau/status/802266272000069634

      • mancityRed6

        she has filed in Wisconsin, but I keep hearing about how the dollar amount needed keeps changing.

        • Shanana Republic

          From what I understand, there’s a set amount required just to file. The final amount will depend on a lot of things, but I think the important deal is to file the petition on time. She has more than enough money to do that in each of those states.

        • Jamoche

          What I saw was someone claiming that the details changed after she hit the first goal, but the part they claimed changed was there when it was still only at $1M – that the first goal would cover filing fees for three states but the total needed would probably hit $6-7M. It was just way down at the bottom, but this isn’t my first crowdfund – I always read the whole thing.

    • BadKitty904

      Would Jill Stein just shut the fuck up and let the adults deal with this? She’s done far too much damage already by helping to put Trump in the White House.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      My, that is surprising!

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Hey, those anti-vaxxer billboards aren’t going to pay for themselves.

  • tehbaddr

    Procuring Wonkette Swag isn’t really buying stuff. It’s more like contributing to the cause and receiving a nice premium!

  • Paperless Tiger

    I gave thanks for the rule of law, as long as it may last.

    • BadKitty904

      ‘Til January, I’m reckoning…

  • Suse

    He seems nice.

    Alabama police officer Joel Husk has been terminated from his job for releasing at least two posts on social media which have been perceived as racist, reports WVTM.

    According to The Daily Home, one of the memes on his Facebook page allegedly included “a black and white photograph of bodies strewn across a battlefield with the words ‘Over 620,000 white people died to free black slaves and still to this day not even 1 thank you.'”

    The media outlet then states another “showed pictures of first lady-elect Melania Trump and the caption ‘Fluent in Slovenian, English, French, Serbian and German,’ next to first lady Michelle Obama and the caption ‘Fluent In Ghetto.'”

    • mancityRed6

      took long enough, I was outraged momentarily about that last week.

    • Thiazin Red

      I like the use of passive voice there “have been perceived as racist” rather than “has been terminated for making racist as hell social media posts”.

      • mancityRed6

        look for one of the only unions Republicans can stand to appeal

    • Shanana Republic

      Why do goobers keep leaving their work information up on their public profiles?

      • Suse

        Because they’re stoopid?

        • mancityRed6

          they claim to hate the facepage but they’re still on there
          and the reaganbook never went anywhere

          • Shanana Republic

            Mine has undergone a bit of stringent housekeeping over the past few weeks, that’s for sure.

          • Suse

            I never post any political stuff on mine. Just fun stuff. I’m in a few groups where I let loose, though.

          • Shanana Republic

            I’m lucky in that posting political stuff on mine isn’t going to get me in trouble, just blocked or muted by people who don’t want to see it. Also, my boss is a rabid libtart like me. But then I’m deliberately not friends with anybody I work with.

          • Lambsendbeds

            I only use Facebook for keeping up with family and I belong to a number of dog related groups, so I get babby pictures, dog pics and videos and lots of doggy stories. it’s a little island of sanity. Twitter is where I do all my political stuff, and I don’t know anyone IRL there.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            “Reaganbook?” Is that actually a thing? If so, that is fucking hilarious.

          • mancityRed6

            http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/facebook-alternative-reaganbook-is-back-now-rebranded-as-freedombook/
            now it’s “freedombook”
            I’m sure they’ll have more stringent admins this time around.
            Oh, yes:
            “Because of our commitment to safety and a family friendly environment, there are behaviors that are not allowed including vulgarity, name calling, threats, bullying, obscenity and any other behavior that is deemed inappropriate or unsafe. The remedy is instant termination of any account found engaging in these behaviors. Speech is free but intimidation, harrassment and vulgarity are not free speech. So please be considerate, abide by our rules and have a great time!”

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            I can see why it didn’t catch on, since most right wing speech is hate speech.

          • mancityRed6

            reaganbook didn’t catch on because, sometimes, the left really does have trolls

          • Shanana Republic

            So basically it’s just like Wonkette except all they do is post non-vulgar recipes?

          • mancityRed6

            the banhammer is strong with that one

        • Shanana Republic

          BUT THEY KEEP GETTING FIRED

          Jesus pete.

          • mancityRed6

            no one said they were smrt

          • Shanana Republic

            Now I’m feeling ranty about the deliberate dumbing down of the country. My mom told me that when she was in high school in the 1960s, they were PROUD of their brand new school and all its facilities and programs and teachers, of their science and arts classes, of getting a damn good education.

            NOW look at us. THE MAN took a look at all the dirty damn hippies all that good education created even in Kansas and set about systematically undermining it. DeVoss is the crowning achievement on THAT pile of shit.

            /rant off

          • mancityRed6

            Here you go then,
            http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2016/nov/23/hard-times-kansas-and-its-schools-economic-experim/
            we are $345 million in the hole as of the 23rd.

            and I also found this:
            http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2016/nov/25/trumps-stock-dakota-access-pipeline-company-raises/
            It’s a good thing we have that fourth estate!

          • Shanana Republic

            Don’t make me drive up there.

          • mancityRed6

            you’re the one making good dinner, I’m the one that will be there in 3 hours.
            I have to put pants on, right?

          • Shanana Republic

            Yeah, my neighbors across the street are usually high or drunk and I’m not sure they always wear pants (I deliberately don’t look) but the rest of them might be a bit worried and call the cops.

            Plus, I’m not sure how this dinner is going to turn out. It smells good, but it looks damn runny again.

          • mancityRed6

            cook it longer
            put out some crackers if they get hungry

          • Doug Langley

            Plop in some packets of unflavored gelatin.

          • Thiazin Red

            Its been a thing for a while, de Toqueville mentions it in Democracy in America in the mid 1800s.

          • mancityRed6

            also, when I was in Nevada, there was a huge new arts center for the high school. It took up the old parking lot.
            but, that’s misery, er, missouri

          • Doug Langley

            Oh, don’t get me started. I remember my spanking brand new high school in the 70’s with all the latest gizmos. Any student on the college track had to take algebra, geometry, trig, and college algebra. Also earth science, chemistry, and physics. And a foreign language. All this in a nowhere farm town. And no one thought it weird.

            Today? I get students in my college advanced games class who never had a single class in algebra.

          • Suse

            Some mouth breathing VP at a bank also got fired for posting horrible things about Michelle, replete with some of the worst grammar and spelling I’ve seen. The FB community ratted her out to the bank.

          • Shanana Republic

            I saw that. Flipping idiot. ALABAMA get away, indeed.

          • mancityRed6

            remember, they say the same things about Kansas

          • Shanana Republic

            HUSH YOUR MOUTH

          • mancityRed6

            with the brownback as governer, we aren’t off the table.

          • Shanana Republic
        • tehbaddr

          That’s just the sort of elitist attitude that lost us this election!!!111111!!!1111!!!!!!11!!11!11!!1 Or so they say!

      • tehbaddr

        Goobers gotta goob!

    • BadKitty904

      Interesting. Did he mention who enslaved said blacks in the first place?

      • Suse

        It was their own damn fault.

        • BadKitty904

          After walking to America from Africa, no doubt.

          • Suse

            Of course! Didn’t you see Roots?

          • Thiazin Red

            Cue the “It was really the other Africans’ fault, they were the ones who REALLY did the slave trade, not the Europeans”.

          • SnarkON

            They were the real racists!

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Also the “the blacks were fed, clothed, and housed at no cost to them, and they got a free ride to the best country in the world, so really, why are they complaining so much?”

          • boberiggert

            Sail Away

          • Shanana Republic

            I heard they were stowaways on the ships that brought over all the Irish indentured servants.

            *goes to scrub fingers with Lava soap*

      • Dazza

        Ding! Ding! The winning response^^^^^

        • BadKitty904

          Funny how often the Reichpublicans overlook that little point. But not “ha-ha” funny.

    • Thiazin Red

      I know its irrelevant to the larger point, but Melania Trump is absolutely not fluent in English.

      • tehbaddr

        That’s OK Dahling!

      • Suse

        Nor does she have any class or style or a clue.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          If she had any class, she wouldn’t have married Donald Trump.

      • SnarkON

        She speaks the Universal Language of Obvious Cosmetic Surgery, though.

      • Mr. Blobfish

        Neither is her husband.

    • tehbaddr

      Get ready for an endless parade of these emboldened knuckle draggers!

    • OrG

      I don’t know if I’d say she’s fluent in English.

      • tehbaddr

        Enough to say “Yes, my Donalds”.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      He should have included Melania’s nudes and a caption that said “illegal immigrants who are fluent in sexy are allowed to stay, in Trump’s America.”

    • Perceived as racist?
      Even that has to have some both sides doitisms?

  • Msgr_Moment

    Buy Almost Nothing Today Except For Our Family-Owned Small-Business Jazzy Funtimes Politicks Stuff!

    Politicks is to politics as Magick is to magic?

    • mancityRed6

      yes

    • therblig

      Magick – the Gathering
      Politicks – the Hunting

      American People – the hunters and gatherers

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    The packet about diabetes they gave me has a paper saying manage your emotions and stress and I’m laughing hysterically now. That’s hilarious.

    • Suse

      So you do have it?

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        Yup type 2. But my lab results came back pretty much perfect otherwise.

        • Suse

          So your pancreas is functioning – that’s very good news!

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Yeah, about as well as my lungs *takes puff from rescue inhaler*

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I’m managing mine by cycling through them rapidly.

      • tehbaddr

        You mean the Literature they gave you? 0_o

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          I can never read just one book at a time.

    • tehbaddr

      So the Anxiolytics you sought should be of help.

    • Shanana Republic

      Which type are you dealing with?

    • SnarkON

      You’d better not be eating a big glob of sugar as you laugh.

  • Nounverb911
    • Suse
      • bookish

        I’ll take a long shot. I suppose Trump would sue like a bitch. And that would be the least of it.

        • Shoto

          Drumpf would sue everyone in sight, and his mouth-breathing followers would go (even more) batshit crazy.

    • Nounverb911

      By BYRON TAU

      Updated Nov. 25, 2016 5:38 p.m. ET

      Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein formally requested a vote recount in Wisconsin on Friday and is preparing challenges in Pennsylvania and Michigan, after a prominent computer scientist called for an examination of paper ballots and electronic voting machines in order to conclusively prove that hackers hadn’t manipulated the results.

      The Wisconsin Elections Commission received the campaign’s petition on Friday afternoon and said it was prepared to move forward with a statewide recount, paid for by money raised by Ms. Stein, beginning late next week. The recount must be completed by Dec. 13 to comply with certain federal deadlines regarding the selection of electors.

      Ms. Stein’s request for a recount is far from guaranteed in the two other states. In Michigan, the winning candidate can object to any recount request, and the issue would be settled by the Board of Elections. In Pennsylvania, such an effort would likely need to go before a judge.

      The three states voted for Republican Donald Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton by narrow margins in the presidential race, and should a recount overturn the initial results, Mrs. Clinton would be awarded the White House. But it is extremely unlikely that three separate state recounts would reverse the preliminary results.

      • bookish

        Good information, thanks.

        I look at contributing to something like this as I do going to a casino. Don’t spend more than you can afford to lose. I sent my pittance with that understanding. I’m comfortable with it.

        • Serai 1

          I’m fine with it no matter which way it goes. We should have a decisive answer one way or the other.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Huh, nothing on the NYT’s home page about this. At least WaPo has something on this.

      • Nounverb911

        They’re all out shopping….

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        If they do much better I’ll be forced to budget for a subscription.

  • Nounverb911
  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Dylan Roof found mentally competent to stand trial for murdering 9 African American churchgoers, in an effort to start a race war. Poor, dumb, Dylan. little did he know that Trump would get elected and start a race war all in due time.

    • Suse
    • Shanana Republic

      I’m always torn about the “mentally competent” thing. I mean, how mentally competent can you be kill 9 people and say it was because you wanted to start a race war? How even…?

      • Suse

        That’s a good question. I think being “competent” enough for trial means that you have an understanding of the charges and can assist in your own defense. It’s one of those low bar things.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        I can look at Roof and tell he’s clinically depressed, thus he’s mentally ill, but he definitely knew what he did was wrong, and tried to run away, therefore he’s mentally competent.

        The one that killed me was Jeffrey Dahmer, they found him mentally competent, even though he was a cannibal, and had a head in his refrigerator. That shows to me that you’re pretty mentally ill.

  • kareemachan

    O/T question here: those stupid “polls” I see here. Mostly I’m in the minority when I say, for example, that I thought Hillary had the best response to bombings in NYC & NJ, and they say 23% of the pollees (sp?) agree with me. WTF? or are these more examples of Russky trollettes?

    • SnarkON

      Wait, you actually click on those things?

    • Jamoche

      Those polls are run on many many sites. I don’t know what other sites, but they don’t seem like they’d be nice places.

  • kareemachan

    Also, totally O/T, but I was BLOWN. AWAY. by this:

    ‘To all you people who voted for Trump:

    I’m already
    hearing a lot of talk about how liberals brought this on by living in a
    bubble or not understanding Trump’s supporters’ point of view or not
    realizing how much white men have been hurting, etc. So let me get this
    straight. Because we foolishly thought this was a country that was
    kinder and more enlightened than it actually is, because we foolishly
    thought all Americans believed in the same principles of freedom and
    fairness we did, you were forced to elect a bullying,
    arrogant, lying, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-immigrant, cruel,
    authoritarian narcissist to the position of the most powerful person in
    the world.

    I’m not buying it. This is the kind of thing abusers
    say to justify their crimes–“You forced me to hit you. If you hadn’t
    made me mad, it would never have happened.”

    But that’s a lie. And
    an excuse. The truth is: I didn’t do this, and neither did the left or
    the Democrats or anybody who voted for Hillary. You did this, and we have no intention of taking the blame for it.

    I’ve
    spent the last two years obsessively following Trump’s campaign,
    becoming more and more alarmed, and telling anyone who would listen how
    dangerous he is. I worked Hillary’s campaign, donated money, helped get
    the vote out, and voted for her. *I* wasn’t the one who voted for
    someone racist who abused women and mocked the disabled and advocated
    torture “even if it doesn’t work,” and neither were the Democrats or the
    left. You were.

    You set us on a course that
    will lead us relentlessly not just into the past, but into the dark,
    ugly past we’ve fought so hard to come out of. It’s a course which is
    likely to spin out of control and take us places we can’t even imagine.
    And whatever happens, whatever damage he does, whatever whirlwind we end
    up reaping, it will be your fault and nobody else’s.

    We’re all
    going to suffer for what you’ve done, but we’re jolly well not going to
    take the fall for this, too. The blame is squarely on you and only you.

    Connie Willis’

    Not only am I a BIG Connie Willis fan, but damn, gurl, you GOOD.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Wow.

      I’ve never read anything by Willis before. Moving her up to next on the list.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        I love me some Connie Willis. The woman knows how to put them words together in the right order.

      • boberiggert

        Protip: Don’t start with Passage.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Thanks: I needed that.

    • BadWolfGirl

      Thank you! I feel so much better now :)

    • Shanana Republic

      “You forced me to hit you. If you hadn’t made me mad, it would never have happened.”

      And we made you “mad” by telling you both explicitly and implicitly that you are a dying breed, becoming more and more irrelevant as time passes, because you refuse to change. You could have stayed relevant and vital if you had adjusted your expectations like the rest of us have damn well had to for generations. We adjusted our expectations for ourselves downward just to survive, but when we adjusted our expectations UP so that we could THRIVE, you lost your damn minds.

      Am I sorry about that? No. Telling you the truth wasn’t wrong, your bad reaction to hearing it was.

      • mancityRed6

        I have no words
        I am in awe

        • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

          I know. It would be cool if there was a way (maybe there is) in Disqus or here where we could keep favorite comments.

          • mancityRed6

            I follow, but then I have to search. best thing is to do a screen grab

        • Shanana Republic

          Er, thanks. And that was the heavily edited version.

        • HooverVilles

          THIS!!! & I second your comment!
          >^o.o^<

      • HooverVilles

        ^^^^ & THIS ^^^^
        Purrrrrfect
        >^o.o^<

    • SeekingNastyBarbie

      Yes! I am getting tired of seeing how somehow it is MY fault that the Drumpf was elected.

    • HooverVilles

      ^^^^ THIS ^^^^

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    I got a prescription for metformin and an antianxiety prescription (not a narcotic but similar to Benadryl so still should be pretty good).

    • mancityRed6

      google it.
      my recent ex was on a lot of scripts and the pharmacist couldn’t or wouldn’t tell her everything about it, so she would google it.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        My doctor explained but I already knew a lot of what she told me. I’m glad she prescribed metformin because I do actually have a family history of PCOS.

        • mancityRed6

          hugs and best wishes
          I can’t imagine
          it makes my family history of dementia seem tame by comparison

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Drugz can be totally helpful. It’s good that you saw someone. More people should. Good on you!

    • mml1996

      Take care, honey.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Gee, Republicans are claiming the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is set up to steal consumer’s information, for nefarious puproses, so the republidiots in Congress are getting ready to investigate them. The rubes will TOTALLY believe this is true.

    • mancityRed6

      *grabs pearls*
      Where’s my goddamn feinting couch?

      • Serai 1

        Would that be a couch that one pretends to sit on?

        • mancityRed6

          sit, lay, lounge…whatever
          who’s got my peeled grapes!

        • Amy!

          I would have thought it was a lunge-er.

    • Shoto

      Oh FFS…

    • mml1996

      Is this the part where I black out and return only when a Democratic President is back at the helm?

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Take me with you!

  • bookish
    • Alan

      Correct. You can have a do-over on your concession.

      • bookish

        Thank you.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Sigh.

    • Doug Langley

      My understanding is that it’s traditional and expected. I saw a lot of breathless hyperventilating on the prospect of Trump refusing to concede to Hilz.

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    I just finished binging the Gilmore Girls reboot. NO SPOILERS. Other than there’s a song in the musical within the series called “I Am Not Unbroken” sung by Sutton Foster that is my new sub-anthem. My anthem is “Short Skirt, Long Jacket” by Cake. Because I’m badass like that. But, yeah. They nailed my soft side. AND I CRIED. No judging.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I loved that song, too.

      • mancityRed6

        as a male, I did like the Cake song.
        can I say that?

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          Hell to the yeah! It’s all girl power, but any guy who appreciates that is a good egg.

        • Msgr_Moment

          Pie >> Cake.

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Cake >>Pie. I respect your opinion, but it’s open to debate. I’m on cake side. Enjoy your pie. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        I want to find it and keep it and play it whenever I want. I’m hoping it’s out there somewhere.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          They better release it! I can’t watch the scene over and over again.

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            I know. I’ll cry uncontrollably and then there will be the flood. Biblical. And we thought global warming was the problem.

      • Shanana Republic

        That’s the one they used on Chuck, isn’t it?

        I miss Chuck.

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          Wait. I watched all of Chuck. “I Am Not Unbroken” was on Chuck? Now I’m gonna feel like a fool if I ignored it the first time around.

          • Shanana Republic

            No, the Short Skirt one!

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Yay! No Alzheimers! YET!

          • Shanana Republic

            I never watched even a single episode of GG so the reboot is of no interest to me whatsoever. It’s probably one of those things that got started when I was either out of the country, getting ready to leave, or recovering from coming back. I have a lot of culture gaps like that. Which is why my son has the same name as a major TV character/series of the same name and nobody ever spells or pronounces it properly. :/

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Well and I eff’d up. Went back and watched it again. The song is “I Am Not Ubreakable,” not “Unbroken.” That’s probably the problem right there.

          • mml1996

            You have a lot of catching up to do :)

          • Shanana Republic

            Pretty sure not going to happen. Not enough time in the world.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          “I Am Not Unbroken” or “Short Skirt, Long Jacket?”

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Seriously. I’m wondering about my memory loss right now.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Must be the latter. The song is “Unbreakable” and the Shermen-Palladinos wrote the lyrics, according to an article at The Bustle.

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Whew. I feel better. Damn. They write dialogue AND lyrics. They’re pretty good. LOL

          • Shanana Republic

            Short Skirt, Long Jacket

    • mml1996

      I hate the last four words. They’re mean.

      And I’m sad.

    • mml1996

      The musical was like nails on a board to me.

      And I’m gay.

      OTOH – I like how much gayer Stars Hollow is now!

      • I quite like musicals and I got my boys to like musicals and now hubs is all…dude….they aren’t gay right? And I am all…if they are???? Just because they will walk around whistling Dulcinea or suddenly break into a rousing chorus of do a deer

        • mml1996

          No no – the musical in the episodes was very “nails on the board” to me.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        Oh the musical sucked balls. It was the redemption song that got me. Which I improperly named. It was “I Am Not Unbreakable.” AND I CRIED.

        • mml1996

          Oh yes, that song and the one in the final stages of the last episode (I’d like to know the name of that one)

          Both made me weep into my pillow.

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            I can’t wait for next season. There has to be a next season. If not, there will be stern words with people in power.

          • mml1996

            Will there be one though – I feel like Amy and Daniel may have found their closure with this one.

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            I’ll just imagine the ending anyway. It’s like “Choose Your Own Adventure.” But…you know what we’re choosing. NO SPOILERS.

          • mml1996

            OKAY OKAY.

            (I hope its #TeamJess)

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            #TeamChewbacca I’M WEIRD THAT WAY.

          • mml1996

            OH MY GOD NO. GET THIS IMAGE OFF OF MY HEAD.

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            But it’s a possibility! That’s sort of what I love about this. We all have to live with it until season 2.

          • mml1996

            But… But..

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            I know, I know. I’m just going to hope that he didn’t wear the costume.

          • mml1996

            Sigh.

            I’m going to cry listening to “I’ve worn out the world” now

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Right there with you. Solidarity. [*fist bump*]

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        I don’t think it was meant to be good!

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          Found the lyrics! And now I’m crying again. I bring you: Unbreakable.

          I know how everyone else’s life
          Is supposed to fly by.
          Then someone turns and says,
          “What about you?”
          And I stand here.
          Mouth open.
          Mind blank.
          This should have all worked itself out by now.
          The map of my life should be clear and precise,
          With little red dashes and circles so nice,
          Showing roadblocks,
          And landmines.
          Oh, I am not unbreakable.
          I am breaking right now.
          Maybe everyone can’t have the dream.
          Maybe everyone can’t kiss the frog.
          Maybe it’ll be me and a dog,
          And the little stuffed dolphins on the floor.
          And a little dog door.
          Oh, I am not unbreakable.
          I am breaking right now.
          I need to be unbreakable.
          Somehow, it’s never,
          Or now.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            How do they know my life?

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Same as they know mine. All “Short Skirt, Long Jacket” on the outside, “Unbreakable” on the inside. We are all Lorelei Gilmore.

  • tehbaddr

    A belly full of leftover turkey, stuffing, green beans and sweet potatoes, followed by some anti-inflammitories. Ah, life is good! Can I please work another day sir?

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      I sweat all my potatoes. They have secrets.

      • tehbaddr

        Ha! Yes, corrected thank you!

      • Doug Langley

        You wouldn’t believe what they see with all those eyes.

      • tehbaddr

        My Grandpa once told me, that back in the old days in the homeland, they’d strap the potatoes into their armpits as they worked the fields. This would impart a briny sort of age and flavor to the spuds. Then again he was a Shriner!

        • therblig

          did he wear an onion on his belt?

    • Shanana Republic

      Well I’m glad SOMEONE got some stiffing.

      • mancityRed6

        phrasing
        oh, well…
        damn

    • Shoto

      I just enjoyed a bit of leftover turkey, or as my kitteh calls it, “crack.”

      • mancityRed6

        turkey at thanksgiving, ham at christmas, the pups used to love it when we’d be gone all day and come home with such treats.

    • Suse

      We have no leftovers. That’s what I hate about going to someone else’s house. I’m so craving stuffing and gravy right now.

    • The Wanderer

      No leftovers tonight. I had pork-fried rice and sweet-and-sour chicken from a Chinese diner about a mile from my house. The pork-fried rice is quite literally ambrosia.

  • Suse

    Joy Reid is asking Londoners what’s worse – Brexit or Trump?

    • Blacktop Cadence

      I feel I’ll be posting this a lot over the next four years.

      https://twitter.com/bpedaci/status/796205042802065409?lang=en

      • This so very very very much

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Yes, this. I cried when I saw the result of the Brexit referendum.

        Trump just filled me with a blind, existential dread.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Trump, by far. Brexit will hurt a lot of people but it’s not the clusterfuck that we just elected to get the nuclear codes FFS.

      • Doug Langley

        And the codes are so simple even Trump can figure them out:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsei3aqTKGo

        • 1 2 3 4 5? That’s the kind of combination an idiot would have on their matched luggage!

          • Msgr_Moment

            Hey!

          • Doug Langley

            Did the video not pop up for you? Damn Discus . . .

          • oh I can click on it fine XD Just on a data restrictive wifi here so I tend to click only if it is vital to national security or something.
            (will prolly do so later, when hubby is nappin, so I do not have to hear him go…hey y u use up data???”)

          • Doug Langley

            Go ahead and click. Trust me, it’s worth it.

        • tehbaddr

          That way even a idiot could send them off. No sane man or woman (heh) would take such a job!

    • mancityRed6

      I’ll ask my first ex when I write her again

    • OrG

      Trump.Brexit is far from a done deal.

    • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

      Aren’t they just two sides of the same race coin?

  • bookish

    The Wisconsin Elections Commission website.

    https://t.co/N3TrlOIqE1

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Blacktop Cadence

      Fucking grifters to the right of us; fucking grifters to the left.

      • mancityRed6

        stuck in the middle with you

        • Shanana Republic

          You guys always…

          ..wait, never mind.

          • mancityRed6

            is your teriyaki done yet?
            I’m getting pants on as I type

          • It is a true sign of wonkism that I read those two sentences, in my head tried to connect them, and came up with a reasonable (in my head) result.

          • mancityRed6

            maybe?

          • Hey, I don’t judge.

          • mancityRed6

            wrong thread
            I’m not the right person to say

          • Shanana Republic

            I think the teriyaki is not a going to be a go tonight. I have some leftover black bean chili and the butternut squash lentil curry if you’re hungry. But they’re vegetarian so you’d probably have to add some of the pre-cooked bacon I have. Also, I have loads of rice. You could maybe just put all the bacon into that and be happy, right?

          • mancityRed6

            you had me at bacon

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Imagine if all those guilt-bucks funded the runoff in Louisiana for the US Senate seat. Just sayin’.

  • Suse

    Billionaire Walter somebody for Commerce post. I missed the last name. Are they all rich white folks, or did Sleepy Ben accept the HUD gig?

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Apparently they are keeping the role of UN Ambassador as a cabinet-level post, so Nikki Haley counts.

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        A token here, a token, there and eventually, you still end up with rich, white males running the show.

        • Resistance Fighter Callyson

          Pretty much :-(

        • Rick Hill

          Doesn’t matter, they’d all be business, republican, christian(sic) or wealth driven, anyway.

      • Suse

        I forgot about her.

    • mancityRed6

      he’s up for HUD, and he’s against segregation:
      http://crooksandliars.com/2016/11/dr-ben-carson-s-terrifying-qualifications

    • Shoto

      I thought Carson was going to become “Secretary of Narcolepsy.”

      • therblig

        was offered the job, but is going to sleep on it

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Just saw on the news that some woman who is an outspoken critic of Obama, a Fox News pundit, and worked in the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush White Houses. She sounds really non-partisan, and nice.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • mml1996

      I just need one.

      Is he a narcissist? Check.

      He’s a dictator.

      • SnarkON

        To be fair, most people who run for the presidency probably have more than a bit o’ the narcissist in them.

        • mml1996

          Okay, adding a “raging” prior to narcissist..

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          Why be fair? Trump’s is pathological. Not anything like the same thing.

          • SnarkON

            Oh, really? I wasn’t sure.

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            I know he’s pretty subtle.

          • tehbaddr

            Straight up!

        • That is true. Even Bamz probably checks out his guns in the mirror when he passes it.

          • Dazza

            Who wouldn’t? Especially if Michelle was there, too.

        • bookish

          True. Narcissistic traits can be adaptive and are probably ubiquitous. I agree most leaders probably have more than their share. But the jump to narcissistic disorder is a big chasm.

      • Msgr_Moment

        Is he orange?

    • Huh. That list goes…pretty much for the entire GOP for the past 30 years, give or take.

      • tehbaddr

        But, but, the Muslin usurper Antichrist Negro Obummer is the dictators!!11!!!11!!!!!!!!!!1!1!!!!

        • mml1996

          YOU MISSED HOO-SAIN!

    • tehbaddr

      I don’t need no stinking test!

    • tehbaddr

      Not an easy to read and digest listicle. TLDR!

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Someone was saying this on MSNBC. I’m not sure if it’s this one but I read a magazine like this on a plane and it was ridiculously conservative and trying to pretend Clinton and Donald are anywhere near the same level, but if it was this one, they are also to blame so this comes a bit late.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        This is from Foreign Policy. IDK if they were doing the false equivalence crap: I’d be surprised if that were the case.

  • Suse

    Putin presents Russian passport to Steven Seagal.

    • mancityRed6

      yes, please, go the fuck away
      you’re movies are awful

      • They all are. All of em. Even when he tried a nod to a social problem it was always fucking pandering and only the strong white man could rescue the poor dear.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea

    1.0 out of 5 stars I will not be Putin this on my tree.
    By Insert reviewer name here on November 25, 2016
    While it says that it will “Make America Great Again” after it hangs on your tree for a while you get the distinct impression that this is the center of a Russian nesting ornament and it is being sold to us under false pretenses.

  • mml1996

    twitter.com/jonathanweisman/status/802208046684504066

    Sometimes, Bill Maher is right – “You can’t put anything past this stupid country”

    • mancityRed6

      “there’s a sucker born every minute”
      “this way to the egress”

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Oh, for fuck’s sake.

      • mml1996

        Indeed.

        As Sam Bee said – “When this election is over, we need to have a serious talk about education in this country”.

    • therblig

      “The question I think we all have is, how do they transition out of it?” he said. “How do they do it without dumping millions of people off the edge of a cliff?”

      Amusing that he believes they care about dumping people off a cliff.

      More amusing, re-interviewing doubled over Dalia when she says, “well, i didn’t expect him to actually keep his campaign promises”.

      morans

    • Villago Delenda Est

      These people deserve to be serfs.

  • Reality Kills

    Geez, it seems like Donald’s team was getting coached by Joseph Goebbels. I was reading his quotes. Check it out:

    “There was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the **er, and this will always be “the man in the street.” Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology.”

    “A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth”

    “Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will.”

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      I think I’m nauseous. NOPE! Totally nauseous. It’s a thing.

    • tehbaddr

      But Himmler, I mean Lewandowski is the man to go with when you need a ground effort.

  • mancityRed6

    OT but is there really any formal discussion going on?
    if you have Hulu, watch Gravity Falls
    It’s an X files for kids
    Only two seasons and the ending is awesome.

    • mancityRed6

      don’t let the Disney thing fool you
      it gets dark

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      I liked it more than I expected.

      • mancityRed6

        as did I

  • Reality Kills

    It seems like Donald has a penchant ability for putting unqualified people to do the work. None of the people that have been nominated are qualified for the job. Listen: Stop this bullshit that anyone can do anything! Experience matters! School degrees matters!! Going to college matter! None of the nominated should be confirm by Congress!

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Anyone can do anything as long as you’re willing to put the work into being competent. Not as catchy.

      • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

        That’s true within reason. You can’t expect the best performance up front from someone who is learning on the job. That’s why you look for transferable skills or related experience.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Depends on the job level but if you’re working to be competent that would cover either schooling or working your way up or anything that’s necessary. Because you actually want to be good at your job.

      • Reality Kills

        “to put the work into being”

        And that’s precisely the problem. Many can’t do it because they don’t have the IQ to do it. I know it sounds elitist but I am one of those that if I don’t know something, I clearly state so.

        Asimov said it best:

        “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          OK so first off an IQ isn’t meant to measure intelligence. If you are open to knowledge you will get smarter. Intelligence doesn’t just stand still. You saying that makes me think your knowledge might need an update. Sorry that really bothers me because the modern idea of intelligence is heavily based on bigotry. When I say put in the work, I mean it. People can seriously improve how much they know and a love of learning is the best cure for ignorance I’ve ever heard. The problem lies at the two extremes, either believing that intelligence is natural or believing anyone can do anything. The caveat is important.

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            Agree and disagree.

            “OK so first off an IQ isn’t meant to measure intelligence. If you are open to knowledge you will get smarter.”

            First statement is incorrect, second statement is correct. Intelligence is merely the capacity to learn; I know many people with high IQs who have wasted the whole shebang and ended up mediocre, and many with what would be considered a middling IQ who come across as far more accomplished simply due to a love of learning.

            Love of learning is a beautiful thing, and is the whole point of a Liberal Arts education, which gets a completely unfair press. Who needs another third rate CS, when a smart History grad who can pick up engineering is a far more attractive hire.

            Unfortunately, my personal opinion is not the norm.

          • Dazza

            I agree completely.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            An IQ is meant to measure where people are doing poorly in school so it can be corrected, it’s not meant to be a single lifelong number and was originally used as such to discriminate against black students (source: the creator of the IQ test).

          • Alan

            IQ is meant to measure cognitive ability and, yes, it does differ among people. Knowledge is a completely different matter. That is something that many americans are proud to be lacking in.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Alan

      Give him a break, he wants the black guy to head urban development. Still cracks me up.

  • Reality Kills

    I also noticed that Donald likes men that have cheated on their wives!

    • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

      No moral high ground.

      • Reality Kills

        Indeed!

      • therblig

        that’s why draining the swamp is necessary

    • Msgr_Moment

      Donald likes men that have cheated on their wives!

      • La Resistance O’hontas

        Not always his, though…

  • Mr. Blobfish

    I spatchcocked the turkey for the first time. It came out perfect. Not only does it sound dirty, the bird looks vulgar with it’s legs spread.

    • Vienna Woods

      But then you can’t stuff it!

      • SeekingNastyBarbie

        Julia (and possibly other chefs) said it’s better not to cook stuffing in the turkey anyway, although I realize this seems positively un-American.

        • tehbaddr

          See Alton Brown all about that and his unique solution!

        • Vienna Woods

          I really don’t care, and neither does President Bartlet.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQsvcs9IB8A

          Besides, I cook my turkey until it’s falling apart, so undercooking is not an issue.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            If you close up the neck, pour in a bottle of wine/beer/cider,peeled onions and dried mushrooms and then seal up the other end, it steams from the inside and is awesome.

          • Vienna Woods

            I might try that with a little roasting chicken, but I must have my turkey-juices-soaked stuffing. Let’s be honest here: turkey is merely a vessel for the stuffing.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            I usually pour off the pan drippings and use them to moisten the stuffing (dressing?) when I brown it while the turkey rests.

          • La Resistance O’hontas

            Pro tip: remove the plastic bag of giblets before you pour your second drink and forget.
            #doespizzaworkforeveryone?

        • Courser

          I kinda prefer the stuffing not in the bird. It’s always far too soggy for me. My dad used to get it just about perfect every time, but he hasn’t done that since my mom died.

      • Mr. Blobfish

        True. I do Trader Joe stove top stuffing. Wife doesn’t eat meat.

    • SeekingNastyBarbie

      That was a new word for me to Google. Looks like a great way to cook a turkey.

      • Mr. Blobfish

        The breast meat is very moist. This is my third turkey so I’m not a pro, but it is miles ahead of my previous offerings.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      First time I spatchcocked I think I pulled a muscle and the girl wouldn’t talk to me for a week.

    • mancityRed6

      that’ll cost you $100 in KC
      not that I would know

      • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

        Back in the day, they were $30 in Westport.

        • mancityRed6

          Bob Bordello is gone now, so the price has gone up

    • Dazza

      Hur, hur. You said “spatchcocked.”

    • Courser

      Our turkey was so perfectly done that the legs split apart as soon as it was on the platter. It was so moist and yummy that I wish my stomach didn’t knot up so I couldn’t eat much. Brought some home tho!

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Well, well, well… Betsy Devos’s brother is Richard Prince, founder of Blackwater, the military contractors. He’s a religious nut, as well as a warmonger. Man, I really don’t have much to be thankful for this year.

    • Suse

      I’m sure there’s room for Prince in a Drumpf administration.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        He’ll probably be the person in charge of establishing the military junta for the Trump administration (barf).

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Some variety of domestic security force to prevent BLM riots, at a guess.

        edit: sorry, out of snark

    • memzilla (Maquis Uni)
      • SeekingNastyBarbie

        Gah! If that’s all true, she’s worse than awful!

      • Villago Delenda Est

        The entire DeVos clan are Mammon worshipers. They gave us Amway.

        • Shanana Republic

          Jeebus, really?

      • bookish

        Trump growing his next crop of the poorly educated.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Well, I’m sold! She seems like an excellent candidate to head up the department in charge of public schools.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Isn’t he in exile?

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        He’s apparently a private equity asshole now (from Wikipedia):
        After Blackwater faced mounting legal problems in the United States, Prince was hired by the crown prince of Abu Dhabi and moved to Abu Dhabi in 2010. His task was to assemble an 800-member troupe of foreign troops for the U.A.E., which was planned months before the Arab Spring.[32] He helped the UAE found a new company Reflex Responses, or R2, with 51 percent local ownership, carefully avoiding his name on corporate documents. He worked to oversee the effort and recruit troops, among others from Executive Outcomes, a former South African mercenary firm hired by several African governments during the 1990s to defeat violent rebellions in addition to protecting oil and diamond reserves.

        Prince currently heads a private equity firm called Frontier Resource Group and is chairman of Frontier Services Group Ltd, a Bermuda-incorporated logistics and transport company listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.[34] Frontier Services Group is backed by China’s state-owned CITIC Group and Hong Kong-based investor Chun Shun Ko.[35][36] Prince’s ventures advise and support Chinese investment in oil and gas in Africa.[37] Of his strategy, Prince stated:

        Africa is so far the most unexplored part of the world, and I think China has seen a lot of promise in Africa. But the problem is if you go alone, you bear the country risk on your own. You have to get support and maintenance there.[38]

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Yeah, we’ll show those chinese.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Let’s borrow huge amounts of money from them, so that we can pay them tons of interest! That’ll show them!

  • Reality Kills

    The moron-elect didn’t even win the popular vote. How have we being putting up with this for so long?! One man/woman, one vote!? BULLSHIT!!!

    • mml1996

      We’re gonna be there for a while

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      I’d love to see the electoral college go rogue, and appoint Clinton to the presidency, much as Antonin Scalia did with Bush in 2000.

      • Reality Kills

        Oh, man/woman. Deep down I have this very tiny hope for something like that to happen!

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Those people would be such patriots, if they did that.

        • Suse

          Me, too. Let us pray.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Nice dream, but won’t happen.

          Free Republic goons (mostly diabetics in their late 70s) claim this will lead to Civil War 2, one of their favorite sequels.

          Still, if only.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            I actually wouldn’t mind if our domestic terrorists forced the government, if not the Times, to recognize them.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        I think Sandra Day Republican O’fficial had more to do with that

        Pulling back the curtain of presumed impartiality on the U.S. Supreme Court, the latest issue of Newsweek reports that at an election-night party, when U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor heard Florida called for Al Gore, she exclaimed, “This is terrible.” Then, with obvious disgust, she went to get a plate of food, according to two witnesses. Her husband John explained that his wife was upset because she wanted to retire to Arizona and they’d have to wait four years because O’Connor — the former Republican majority leader of the Arizona State Senate and a 1981 Ronald Reagan appointee — did not want a Democrat to name her successor

        Justice O’Connor later felt real bad about loss of respect for the Court, but Obama gave her a Medal of Freedom for no particular reason which presumably made her feel all better.

  • Reality Kills

    Fuck you, Donald! You lied your way out to presidency! Looking forward to see your “America great again”!

    We really need a fucking technocratic government!!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Oh good, I’ve got a lot of time for Kamala Harris

      • Suse

        My niece-in-law (Alameda County assistant DA) is a good friend of hers. I hope to meet her sometime.

      • boberiggert

        Get in line

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Nancy Pelosi: House Democrats Will Fight Trump, Investigate Comey Interference:

    And while she says Democrats failed to deliver a sharp economic message during the election campaign—and then corrects herself to say “some of the [media] coverage took us away from the economic message,” her sharpest criticism is for Comey. Democratic turnout was depressed, and late-deciding voters went overwhelmingly for Trump, she notes. “I put that at the doorstep of Comey. How a man who could say, ‘I cannot sign the consensus intelligence document that says the Russians hacked the Democrats, because it’s too close to the election,’ then in turn, do a letter saying that they found more e-mail, that might be insignificant, 12 days before the election—which [former New York mayor and Trump supporter] Giuliani perhaps had a lead on? The heat from Republicans in Congress, and in the FBI, was too much for him.” She promises her caucus will investigate that issue, and more.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ffd18ef8614d2b81e5bbc3f8462544710e19f83899a8fea7771a5da00a3315db.jpg

    • mancityRed6

      at least someone has some guts in DC

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Glad to see she decided to come out swinging to defend her leadership position!

    • Serai 1

      It had nothing to do with heat. That man’s had a hard-on for crucifying the Clintons since the 90’s.

  • Suse

    Tweety and Co. are parsing Trump’s win. Every clip shows what a truly awful, horrible, evil being he is.

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Which is news to … well, nobody really.

      • Suse

        No, but seeing it all in one swell foop is scary.

      • msanthropesmr

        He doesn’t mean it. He’s for us, the little people. He’s gonna make America white great again.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          Dusky and/or intellectual bad.

          White and uneducated good.

          Get in line, citizen. You won’t get tired of winning*

          * for Donald J Trump’s definition of winning, ie publicity and personal cash

    • tehbaddr

      You mean Tweety, or Trump. Cue the responses….

      • Suse

        I knew someone would say that!

        • tehbaddr

          Always at your service. I aims to please.

    • bookish

      Yep. And those were Trump’s company manners.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    OK, kids, I’ve got to watch some British sit-coms so I am in a better mood: friends and I are doing a Friday Night Thanksgiving in a little while. Stay strong, everyone!

    • Suse

      Sounds fun! See you! I feel like watching The IT Crowd or The Peep Show.

    • Shanana Republic

      Take care of yourself, Cally!

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Have fun! :-)

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      Blackadder Series 2 is always a pleasant tonic.

      • Serai 1

        The episode titled Beer can cure all ills.

  • SeekingNastyBarbie

    When I was out and about this afternoon I stopped by the library and it was CLOSED! Then I stopped by Walmart and there weren’t even any lines. The world is topsy-turvy.

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      Trump initiatives. No more libraries, and expand jobs at big box to Make America Great Again

      • Suse

        Libraries are for pinko elitist intellectuals.

        • Jeffocaster in the East

          You feeling better or did you disinvite the friends?

          • Suse

            Still feeling crappy. I have a slight fever, too, which is weird. I did disinvite them and they were totally okay with it. They got in an accident yesterday. A pickup driving in front of the lost a motor scooter out of the bad and it hit them and sliced through a front tire. It went on to hit many other cars. They were unhurt, but 5 hours late to dinner. Thanks for asking. :-)

        • OrG

          Yep,that and homeless people.

          • Jeffocaster in the East

            Another reason to close them.

          • Suse

            And kids whose parents use them as babysitters.

          • OrG

            Better than the boob tube.

          • Amy!

            The dangling antecedent in that sentence, if interpreted as referring to the ‘kids’ being used as ‘babysitters’, produces a result that is very nearly as surreal as the election of an incompetent narcissist as POTUS.

          • Suse

            Yeah, yeah. My mother is spinning in her grave at my sentence.

          • Dazza

            I got a 2 week suspension in year 7 for being a communist (I loudly – and in writing – objected to our history text which had nothing on Aboriginal peoples). I spent that time in the library, reading and listening to the extensive classical music collection. Best two weeks of school ever.

          • Suse

            My hometown library saved my sanity. I used to jump on my bike and go to the library when my dad was in one of his alcoholic rages.

          • Dazza

            Wow. Sorry, Suse. I am glad the library was there for you. It would be a shame if the proudly ignorant closed those refuges for the nerdly refugees of the world.

          • Suse

            Thanks. I started reading really early. Parents always had tons of reading material around. Literacy is such a huge gift and I don’t understand people who can read, but don’t (like Drumpf).

          • SeekingNastyBarbie

            Agreed. Reading was also an escape for me. When I was in high school I used to ride the bus downtown to the main library and browse through the shelves for hours. I don’t think YA existed way back then, I just looked at everything.

          • Dazza

            We had a “children’s section” in the main library in the town where I grew up. Kids were not allowed into the adults’ section until they reached high school. Bless my parents – they told me to select the books I wanted from the adult section and they would check them out for me. As well, kids were limited to 5 books, but no such limits were placed on adults. My wonderful parents never censored or modified any of my choices – so from year 4 onwards – I read everything from anthropology to zoology, with detours into some adult fiction (from science fiction to existential French writers).

            Dad is a rock-ribbed conservative and mum was a Christian socialist. But both believed in free speech and the benefits of self-education. I am very grateful to them.

        • Dazza

          Hey, I resemble that remark.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Sniffle…little boy in Chappaqua felt like Hillary didn’t have enough signs up in the area, and he’s sad she lost:
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/clinton-supporters-leave-thanksgiving-signs-in-chappaqua.html

    • bookish

      What a sweetheart.

    • Suse

      I saw this yesterday and got pretty choked up.

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      Friend of mine showed me Hillary’s mannequin challenge video this afternoon. I wanted to cry so bad.

      http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-campaign-does-mannequin-challenge-2016-11

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        She’s got to be so amazed, not so much that she lost, but that she lost to such a fucking idiot.

  • memzilla (Maquis Uni)
    • Suse

      This would be funny it weren’t so sickening.

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Some of those look like really fucking bad Tetris pieces.

      • TJ Barke

        Still kinda funny.

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          If one finds pig-ignorance and bigotry particularly amusing.

          edit: it seems I’m outvoted.

          • TJ Barke

            We’re in the darkest timeline, gotta find humor somewhere…

          • Suse

            Gallows humor is often a good thing.

      • David Clark

        Still pretty funny tho…

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      This does not surprise me very much. “Hakenkreuz is hard, bro!”

    • tehbaddr

      Boingboing got it wrong. Nothing “modern” about these fucksticks, same old tired fascist shit with new younger numbskulls to perpetuate it!

    • Shanana Republic

      I feel sorry for my friend and her family who were celebrating Divali recently and have to see this ancient symbol of theirs co-opted by people who would happily kill them.

    • The Wanderer

      Idiots.

    • SayItWithWookies

      BAD Nazis! No borscht for you!

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • FukuiSanYesOta

      I prefer to think she’s doing the British version of that gesture.

    • tehbaddr

      This parody right? Please say it is.

    • The Wanderer

      She’s going to drop a deuce? That’s a tad unsanitary.

  • oh hai WI sup?

    • FukuiSanYesOta

      WI: Oh, you know, labor suppression, voting in an evil walleyed mental incompetent as governor, licking the taint of an orange Narcissist, the usual. Also cheese.

      • tehbaddr

        Don’t forget the lutefisk!

        • La Resistance O’hontas

          That’s mostly Minnesota. Drinking before noon, now THAT’S the Sconnie way…also too might essplane why the votes seem to be chosen by drunks throwing darts (see also: UK).

      • well i know it’s a pipedream but i would love a recount to find something. a girl can fantasize no?

        • FukuiSanYesOta

          We all can.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        CHEESE! Oh. Um. The rest is not gud. Never mind.

      • Msgr_Moment

        Cheese and the heads who wear it.

  • shaar dula

    can I please say this in the freest country ever? I really don’t like mitch mcconnell. baring that one time he stood up for his wife, every time I hear his name and anything he utters, I get a natural repulsive physical reflex – from the core of my being, and I have seen some pretty revolting politicians in atleast 4 countries. this guy just gets under my skin and seems intent on violating every sense of decency I desperately have ever hold on to over the years. (hey, its not paranoia, if it’s …)
    I just cant stand this guy. I started tracking him from the day he said “make Obama one term”. I really really cant stand this guy. and don’t promise not having a nose oozing corpuscles in case a close enough face to face happens.

    • tehbaddr

      Well then, you know what you must do!

      Go to his home state and edumicate them fuckwads!

      • FukuiSanYesOta

        Educate people? Oh my poor, deluded friend. We’re not going to do that any more. That’s self-defeating for our new chums in the executive branch.

        No, we need more Jesus and far fewer facts. That’s the way to compete in a global economy. Oh, wait again! That’s globalism! We don’t need a globally competitive workforce any more because America.

        I think my blood pressure is spiking.

        • Shanana Republic

          So how about we rewrite the Bible?

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            I’m down with that. Remove most of the Old Testament, have a load of The Jeezey saying “be cool to people” and “Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me”, rip out those depressing psalms and Paul’s letters to the Corinthians, and we might be getting somewhere.

            Part of the Apostle Paul’s second letter to the big Cozzies formed the 12th Article of the 1936 Soviet constitution. Some people get a tad annoyed when you point that out.

        • shaar dula

          “I think my blood pressure is spiking.”
          And that pardon my German, is an understatement of the century. You only think your blood pressure is spiking because that is only the thing you have been monitoring.

        • boberiggert

          Got your citizenship JIT, huh? Of course, I’m jealous of the “dual” part.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Got it in one.

      • shaar dula

        but I don’t want to get this. I really really honestly from the deepest part of my soul never want to be in a situation where ANYBODY gets this.

    • Suse

      Did he say some new thing or is this a general comment on his ickiness?

      • shaar dula
        • TJ Barke

          If they drain the swamp then where’s he gonna lurk?

          • Blacktop Cadence

            He could try to become a land turtle.

          • Suse

            The Black Lagoon?

        • Amy!

          You know … that could be a good thing.

          I’m imagining Ryan and McConnell keeping strictly to their own agenda, and refusing to consider any of Trump’s (idiotic) personal hobbyhorses. Trump, enraged, starts vetoing everything until they do what he wants. They dig in their heels, and try to tell him that he’s in the big league now, and he issues an appeal to his core to get rid of the entire leadership of the GOP. Circular firing squad at dawn, etc., etc.

          Sadly, it’s unlikely to happen. More likely we’ll see the worst of all possible worlds (and not even any gardens of one’s own to tend, once the temperature reaches a comfortable 120 daily, in winter).

          • FukuiSanYesOta

            It’s far more likely that The Hair will judge each piece of legislation by the amount of publicity he’ll get from signing it, so every more outrageous piece of “fuck the poor” law that gets past the senate and house will become his new cocaine.

            And *that* scares the shit out of me.