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Welcome back, Wonkers. Whether you celebrated with family or had a Friendsgiving, I hope your Festival of Gastronomic Excess was excessively festive, gastronomically amazing, and not marred by overbearing Trumpsters!

But now, we have the aftermath with which to deal. Just LOOK at those mountains of leftovers! Today, we’re going to look at:

CREATIVE WAYS TO USE THANKSGIVING LEFTOV . . . Ouch! Who threw that? You could’ve taken the dressing OUT OF THE DAMN BOWL first. Nearly gave me a concussion!

What? A little louder, I can’t hear you over the ringing in my ears. List of demands? No no no no no. This is MY kitchen, at most you make reque . . . Uh, OK ok ok ok. Put the cleaver down – I’m listening.

*takes notes* Wait, wait! Slow down . . .

All right. Let me see if I got this right: you never want to see turkey again, EVER; were quite creative in your suggestions of what you’d do to me if I even mentioned “dressing”; almost as adamant that I’m not to use sweet potatoes, pumpkins or any other squash; had truly dreadful things to say about those crispy onion things; and I don’t want to know what Cranberry Sauce ever did to make you feel so strongly about it. 0.o There’s more, but I see the pattern.

Soooooooooo . . . maybe something NOT traditionally associated with Turkeyday, then? Not a problem! I got this. We good.

THAT'S what I'm talking agout!
Hungry yet?

How about something that can be, depending on presentation, delightfully decadent or comfortably casual? Exquisitely elegant on a toasted muffin with Hollandaise for brunch, yet relaxed country-cooking when served with a side of fries? This is how I make LOWCOUNTRY STYLE CRAB CAKES, and you should give it a shot!

Prep time: 1 1/4 hours (includes resting time)
Cook time: 15 minutes
Total: 1 1/2 hours

Makes 8 Crab Cakes

WHAT YOU NEED!

Not pictured:  Mayo.
What You Need! Mostly.

  • 3 tablespoons butter
  • 1/2 cup minced red onions
  • 1/3 cup minced red bell pepper
  • 1 tablespoon minced fresh tarragon
  • 3/8 tsp Thyme
  • 1/3 cup mayonaise
  • 1 lb lump or jumbo lump crabmeat (picked over for shells and drained of any liquid)
  • 3/4 cups panko (You can cut this back to 1/2 cup, if you are willing to be very gentle turning the cakes as they will be fragile)
  • 2 teaspoons salt or to taste
  • 1/4 teaspoon pepper
  • 1/8 teaspoon cayenne pepper
  • 6 tablespoons olive oil

WHAT TO DO WITH WHAT YOU NEED!

Such precise knifework!
Such precise knifework!
  • Sautee the red Bell pepper and onion in the butter 5 minutes, or until tender. Allow to cool.
  • Place onions, bell pepper, tarragon, thyme and mayonnaise in a mixing bowl and combine. Gently fold in the crabmeat. Add the panko and season with salt, pepper and cayenne pepper to taste. Let the mixture rest for 5 minutes. The panko will absorb some of the moisture and the mixture will stay together.
  • Lay out a large piece of plastic wrap on a clean counter surface.
  • Place half of the crab mixture on it and roll it into a log about 2 inches in diameter. Bring the wrap up over the crab and roll the crab mixture up. Twist the ends to close. Pierce any air pockets with a toothpick or skewer. Twist the ends even tighter to compress the crab mixture. Tuck under the ends of the wrap and place the tube on a plate. Repeat with the second half of the crab cake mixture. Place the tubes in the refrigerator for at least 1 hour or overnight.
  • Preheat oven to 150 degrees F.
  • Cut the logs of crabmeat into 1 1/4-inch-thick cakes. Gently remove the plastic wrap, leaving the cakes in nice cylinders.
  • Heat 3 tablespoons oil in a heavy-bottomed frying pan (non-stick works well here) over medium-high heat until very hot, but not smoking.
  • Gently place 4 of the crab cakes in the pan and sear for 3 to 4 minutes or until golden brown. Gently turn the cakes over and sear the other side until golden brown.
  • Place them on a baking sheet and into the oven to keep warm. Wipe the pan, add the remaining olive oil and repeat this process for the other 4 crab cakes.

And, DONE! Plate. Garnish, in this case, with coarsely chopped tarragon & finely diced Red Peppers.

Best served with copious amounts of wine and good friends. The friends are more important than the wine.

Thank each other, Wonkers, for being friends. I certainly do.

Peace out, y’all.

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  • Yr. Gma

    Damn! That looks good. I love anything with tarragon in it.

  • WomanInTheResistance

    Thank you, Pinkham. This looks mighty tasty.

  • I am allergic to Red, crunchy, AND shellfish! Are you TRYING kill me?

    • NerdWithNoName

      You’re a Dodo! You’ve been extinct for hundreds of years. We couldn’t kill you any more no matter how hard we tried.

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    Made with canned crabs…

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      MONSTER!

  • Shoto

    The delicious crab cakes will be delivered when, exactly?

  • OneYieldRegular

    I was half-way through making an Angel Food Cake recipe when I saw this, ran to the store, came back and added lump crab meat, and now REGRET the shortcut.

  • memzilla (Maquis Uni)

    Hmm. “Crabmeat Logs.” Hmmm…

  • Toomush_Inferesistance

    Put. The. Crab. Cakes. Down……

    • Shoto

      Crab cakes are for closers.

  • dslindc

    I only had wine so I substituted that. It was fantastic. This recipe is delicious!

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    Best served with copious amounts of wine and good friends. The friends are more important than the wine.

    My best friend actually IS wine, so moar crabcakes for me!

    • Anna Rompage

      I wish wine agreed with me more, while I love the flavor of it, it has a tendency to give me acidy stomach…

      • WomanInTheResistance

        I suspect beer will also be a good friend.

        • Anna Rompage

          Yes, that is my go to for sure!

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        Oh it does that to me, too. I just push through the pain. You do that for friends.

      • calliecallie

        I find a little cognac takes care of that acid feeling nicely.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Don’t tell my family that the leftover stuffing went in the trash. But I turned the peas and mashed potatoes into an absolutely amazing soup.

    • Sister the Resister!

      I love dressing (baked outside the turkey), but it has to be fancied up some, in my opinion, to be interesting.

      I usually put more than the recommended amount of onions and celery in it, and a good amount of garlic and butter. And then I add a diced apple, whole cranberries, and toasted chopped hazelnuts. Unless you’re not a cranberry person, it’s pretty damn tasty.

      It complements the turkey (I usually roast one, but didn’t this year) that I rub with garlic, and stuff with a chunked up onion and an apple, a handful of cranberries, and several peeled cloves of garlic. I never eat this stuff (my weird brother does, though) because inside-of-turkey-yuck, but it keeps the meat very moist, adds flavor to the meat and the drippings used for gravy.

      • Anna Rompage

        I did mine with lots of heavy aromatics this year like you, and then added pecans & port soaked died figs that were diced… It was pretty darn good, though next time I will add some sausage too…

      • cheetojeebus

        Mmmm, Give slivers of toasted black walnuts a try.

      • OneYieldRegular

        I usually don’t put in fruit of any kind, but there’s a crazy French guy up north of here who makes duck sausage mixed with figs that he sells in local markets, and putting that in the stuffing this year? C’etait de la bombe.

      • Yr. Gma

        Chopped walnuts (the real thing.)

  • bookish

    Looks delish.

    Never had any crab cakes, but my mom used to make salmon patties. Canned salmon, crushed saltines, a bit of onion, an egg. Roll patties in yellow cornmeal, fry in cast iron skillet until crispy crusted. Cover with creamed peas to serve. Nom.

    • Yr. Gma

      Yum indeed.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      I was with you right up to the creamed peas.

      • Sister the Resister!

        a nice cajun-ish cream sauce would be nice

        • WomanInTheResistance

          That would be delicious.

        • Sister the Resister!

          I used “nice” twice, but with my new-found politicized anger, REFUSE TO CORRECT! So there.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            You stand by your principles! I support that!

          • Latverian Diplomat

            It’s nice to be nice to the nice.

          • The Wanderer

            M*A*S*H ref. I award you an internet.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Honey mustard?

  • Anna Rompage

    Post Thanksgiving Sportsball party finger foods (and a great way to get rid of that leftover stuffing)

    Puff Pastry Stuffing bites;

    thaw out 1-2 packs of puff pastry (buy it from the store and fuck making that shit from scratch, as nobody wants to spend another 2 hours in the kitchen after Thursday)

    cut 2.5″ x 2.5″ square out of the puff pastry sheets.

    get a mini muffin pan and place one piece puff pasty per hole so that the edges go up over the top of the muffin cup.

    Fill each pastry shell with stuffing, top with a dollop of cranberry sauce (or gravy)

    Bake at 350 for approx 25 minutes or until the puff pastry is puffy and golden brown.

    Tired of stuffing? Place 3/4 tsp of triple cream brie into the puff pasty cup, add a little cranberry sauce, and cook as above…

    • calliecallie

      I am always looking for a way to use up that leftover cranberry sauce.

      • Sister the Resister!

        Sandwiches
        On the pumpkin pie leftovers
        Ice cream
        tangy fruit sauce for fish or chicken
        cook a spoonful in with oatmeal
        and of course,
        with a spoon.

      • Anna Rompage

        The puff pastry bites with brie are awesome and super easy.

        I usually make a double batch of cranberry sauce for the holiday and then freeze whatever isn’t used, and then use it throughout the year, as it’s impossible to find fresh cranberries any other time of year.

        It goes really well with slow cooked meats from the grill during the summer months, especially chicken and pork…

    • OneYieldRegular

      This sounds great; i use those little puff pastry shells all the time for leftovers. But as a well-known chef once said, you could wrap sh*t in puff pastry and it would outsell everything else on the menu.

      • Anna Rompage

        Pretty much!

  • Carpe Vagenda

    The whole resting in a roll in the fridge thing is genius.

    • cheetojeebus

      Be sure to bring a flashlight and a good book incase you can’t sleep.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        That, my good snackfood messiah, is why the good lord invented the tablet device.

        • cheetojeebus

          Deacon Vagenda Carper, you excel. enjoy the sacrament of one whole bag of spicy cheetos for thine ownself.

  • bookish

    Let me see if I can understand this. The Russian bear is fine, but pissant little Cuba is not? I still think Trumpie owes the bear a lot of money.

    http://nbcnews.to/2ggM3uK

    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      “Vladimir Putin’s legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights,”

      WILL NEVER BE SAID BY TRUMP

      • TJ Barke

        Those things were also the legacy of Castro’s predecessor.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Russia has fully made the approved transition from Oppressive Totalitarian Communism to Oppressive Totalitarian Fascism. Cuba still has a little way to go.

  • Ryan Denniston

    All my friends are with family this year. Luckily, that means I get all the wine!

  • calliecallie

    Can you make these with leftover turkey?

    • jowgajen

      I was contemplating tofu. So … I think small shredded turkey might work. May need to add some sage and/or adjust the spices.

    • Jamoche

      They’d be croquettes, then, and google says turkey croquettes are a thing -http://allrecipes.com/recipe/244764/turkey-croquettes/

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

      See, The Donald is not only saving our jerbs from going to Mars, he’s killing off our enemies just by being so bigly yooge.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      In fairness, CIA assassination attempts have been known to fail so badly they actually make the targets healthier.

      • TJ Barke

        Only in Castro’s case. Worked pretty good on more than a couple others.

  • WomanInTheResistance

    Please also take a minute of silence for Florence Henderson. Because 2016 sucks.

    https://youtu.be/85jKDa2zpus

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Or, as I remember her more recently, singing “God Bless America” one of the zillion times she did so before the Indy 500.
      https://youtu.be/TSGdz3hCY6I

  • Latverian Diplomat

    These are nice, but what do I do with all these leftover canned clams?

    • The Wanderer

      MONSTER! Send ’em to Trump.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        #drainthecan

      • WomanInTheResistance

        Am I wrong to giggle at the thought of Trump being inundated by canned clams?

        • The Wanderer

          (checks with the Authorities)
          No. No, you are not.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            Good. Because after the Malheur lunatics, I think sending dildos is so clichéd.

        • Latverian Diplomat

          “Trump Tower Grill has the best canned clams. I love Americans with no taste. Happy Thanksgiving!”
          — Donald Trump

          • WomanInTheResistance

            To be fair, he is a MONSTER.

          • OneYieldRegular

            Trump Tower Grill: Home of the World Famous Canned Clam Taco Bowl.

        • Anna Rompage

          A multitude of large trébuchets launching tons of rotten canned clams on the whole inauguration celebration?

          • WomanInTheResistance

            That would be the high point.

          • Anna Rompage

            We can add some moldy, half melted pumpkins from Halloween to the mix…

          • WomanInTheResistance

            Nothing wrong with having a chromatic salute to the new president.

            Excuse me, I need to go throw up now.

        • Shoto

          No. More specifically,

          Inundate Drumpf with Canned Clams. For a Better Murrica.

    • Pinkham’s Law
  • Sister the Resister!

    Supplies are low on the homefront, and I’m too frightened of my fellow citizens to go shopping.

    So, I substituted canned clams (naturally) for the crab, crushed Captain Crunch for the panko, and coffee Yoplait for the mayo. Lacking vegetables of any kind, I substituted rainbow sprinkles for the onion and red pepper.

    Resting now in the frig – lacking olive oil, do you think I should fry in blue cheese butter or toasted sesame oil?

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Why choose? AOT,K.

      • Sister the Resister!

        Good point!

    • Shoto

      “…I’m too frightened of my fellow citizens to go shopping…”

      I recommend pepper spray…

      http://assets.academy.com/mgen/61/10133261.jpg?is=500,500

    • Pinkham’s Law

      You made my brain hurt. Bad Sister! BAD!

      • Sister the Resister!

        Well then, my work here is done. You will be happy to know that the only thing on that (so-called) ingredients list that I actually have in the house is the blue cheese butter, which I abhor, hating all blue-veined cheeses and their stinky cousins. I do not know how it even made it into the leftovers my mom sent home with me, and am sure it would be much more appreciated by some other family member. *sigh*

        • You don’t live in CT, do you?

    • eggsacklywright

      Best substitute for olive oil is hamster grease. Foolproof.

    • cheetojeebus

      I take it you don’t have any pomade handy?

      • Sister the Resister!

        Damn!

    • Blue cheese butter, definitely.

    • Shoto

      Nice technique! You need your own Food Channel!

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    “The cranberry sauce killed my parents”—some version of Batman, probably.

  • Anna Rompage

    Okay, I’m off to go recycle some T-day leftovers into munchies for the Oregon Civil War game…

    I have a crew of about 8 people coming over, and they can put down some food!

  • zerosumgame0005
    • Blacktop Cadence

      Oh look, the deplorable even hate the vets.

      • Bub the Mad Zombie

        They hate everything. Except the freedom to hate…and gunz.

      • theblackdog

        Only the brown ones, the white ones are okay because they were fighting other brown people or some shit.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Good grief. I’m aghast. Particularly at the threats from fellow veterans. He’s the victim gawdammit!

      • Blacktop Cadence

        He was black while trying to get a free vet’s meal, and, of course, being questioned by an geezer and a shitty manager must be his fault.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      WTF? Even if it WAS “stolen valor” (which it isn’t), how is that worthy of death threats?
      http://e.lvme.me/3risbcx.jpg

      • Bub the Mad Zombie

        Because he’s black. And to the self-appointed defenders of some fanatastical American ideal which never actually existed, that’s enough.

    • eggsacklywright

      ♫ This is the dawning of the age of Assholius ♫

    • WomanInTheResistance

      Deplorable is too kind. I prefer to refer to these “people” who threatened a veteran as assholes.

    • bookish
      • zerosumgame0005

        seriously that dipso should have been escorted off the plane!

      • Shoto

        This asshole should’ve been thrown off the plane, then taken into custody. Delta owes everyone on that flight (except the asshole) free round-trip airfare to anywhere the customers wish to go. Anything less, and their corporate claptrap, talk-is-cheap bullsh*t is absolutely meaningless.

        • msanthropesmr

          YOu can say asshole here. ALso too bullshit. As well as pig fucker.

        • WomanInTheResistance

          Psssttt… you can use the word asshole here. No filters. And I totally agree with you.

          • msanthropesmr

            In fact, we have a filter that gets rid of posts that DONT say asshole.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            It is something of a challenge to use the word asshole in every post. Especially the mommy blog threads.

          • msanthropesmr

            Hey, every mommy needs to give their kid the “Christ, What an Asshole” golden book.

      • Ricky Gay

        I hate sore winners.

    • TJ Barke

      That’s why I don’t get out much.

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      “When people show you who they are, believe them.”

      -Maya Angelou

    • Shoto

      JFC

      • zerosumgame0005

        seriously!

  • Blacktop Cadence

    This is not good. I’m sitting here trying to resist food cravings, and the cucumber slices I had aren’t working. Damn you, Wonkette. :-D

  • Kiri the Resistant Unicorn

    Substituted Rock Lobster for crab meat. Will make again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofkzvM7Skxg

  • Yum. I have to make these for my mom.

  • puredog

    “The friends are more important than the wine”?
    Now I doubt the entire recipe.

  • The KGB Ate Our Votes

    Thanksgiving is normally my very favorite holiday – you don’t have to go to church or buy any presents and, in my case, my sister in law does the cooking and I get to pretend to be a man and sit on the couch and watch tv. But, alas, this year there was no fire in the fireplace, my in-laws were exceptionally cranky and demand-y, and my plate of food was cold. This never happened when Obama was president.

    • I’m sorry. Especially about the in-laws. One of my many reasons I didn’t get married.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      I hate to point this out, but Obama is actually still president.

  • OT: Oh bummer. I just found out that Punkin Chunkin, which was supposed to air tonight, was canceled because someone got seriously injured while filming it.

  • The KGB Ate Our Votes
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    • TJ Barke

      Brilliant.

  • Nounverb911

    Looks good, it this appropriate food for watching intrastate rivals beat the crap out of each other in ‘Death Valley’ today?

    • Pinkham’s Law

      Crabcakes are ALWAYS appropriate!

  • Hey! Where is everyone? I have two hours to kill…

    • Pinkham’s Law

      Perfect! That’s just enough time to run to the store, come home, and make Those Crab Cakes We Like!

      • I’m waiting for my train home at union station in toronto. And they don’t have the wifi up and running or i would be watching gilmore girls

        • Pinkham’s Law

          Oh. Yeah, that might make cooking a bit difficult.

        • Yr. Gma

          I love Union Station. They used to have nice bar in there.

          • There is NOTHING here right now. The whole thing is undergoing major renovation/reconstruction. And that includes the TTC and GO transit stops attached. There are no food places in the main terminal…and the washrooms on the departure level are closed

          • Yr. Gma

            Well, that stinks. It was a really great bar. When do they plan to have all that work done?

          • It’s been going for the last five years at least. They started with expanding the subway stop, that part is mostly done. The resoration in the upper level of the Main terminal looks about 1/4 done, departure level looks like a maze of plywood and gates. The GO terminal seems to be done, it’s just moved to the west side of Union.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Do you happen to know if the train passes have names or if they actually check IDs vs tickets?

          • No. Most of the passes are electronic swipe cards now. You just swipe or tap them and present them when the nice police officers ask

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Even for VIA Rail? Because I can get a student pass but it’ll be less useful if FMC can’t use it to come down and make sure my bed is made and room is clean(ish).

          • I get my tickets for Via emailed to me and they scan the barcode. I haven’t been a student since they got all techno. I know they checked student IDs when i was one…

    • WomanInTheResistance

      Washing the dog. Which sounds like a filthy metaphor, but isn’t.

      • Pinkham’s Law

        Getting ready to do that, myself. Although, she prefers to call it “waterboarding.”

    • mancityRed6

      being yelled at by my cats either for being on the balcony or for not letting them out onto the balcony

  • Nounverb911

    This is interesting, someone must have woken doonie from his turkey coma….

    https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/802605889555484676

    • Jamoche

      Two million votes behind, Donnie.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Seems ungrateful.

    • NastyBossetti

      I find it a little hard to stomach this “I won, fair and square” attitude from someone who said on national tv that he wasn’t sure he would accept the results of the election.
      AND for someone who lost the popular vote to say the people have spoken is kind of hilarious. The people have spoken, indeed. And they didn’t say your name.

      • TJ Barke

        And a yooge portion of the electorate didn’t speak at all…

        • NastyBossetti

          Bastards.

          • TJ Barke

            Wrong.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          A pretty yooge portion wasn’t allowed to.

    • OrG

      trump has no idea where the high road even is.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      How is that the high road? It’s rude, vulgar, ungrateful, ungracious, I’m pretty sure completely untrue and I just…. Lord, I don’t think I believe in you, but help me persevere.

    • Yr. Gma

      Yep. Annoying him. Good work, Jill!

    • AnOuthouse

      Where is the mention that Hillary got more votes than any white man ever?

  • WomanInTheResistance

    Completely O/T, but may I mention that doggie spa day kind of sucks? Thor is damp, resentful, and rolling on the furniture in a petulant manner. I, myself, am damp and resentful. Not rolling on furniture though. Because I have other ways of expressing petulance.

    • NastyBossetti

      I let other people spa my dog. He can’t climb into the tub himself cuz of arthritis, and he weights 70 lbs. I can put him in there, but he gets bored and tries to climb out with shampoo all over him. And he doesn’t like other dogs, so I can’t take him to the pet store where they have the self-serve doggy bathing area.

      • WomanInTheResistance

        I think that’s the right call. Thor is 13 pounds dripping wet, which I can attest to. And he’s actually a sweet, ernest little fellow. He generally goes in for reproachful looks when he’s disappointed. It is a remarkably effective tactic.

    • mancityRed6

      the dogs I used to share:
      Middie, the red heeler had two coats. Take her down to the stream at the dogpark and she’d be mostly dry by the time we got back to the car. She didn’t play in the mud much so only got her coat blown out when she started shedding.
      Daisy, the mix (possibly Portuguese Podengo ended up wire haired and loved to play in the yard, rain or shine. She had one coat and a mostly bare tummy. Towel off the dirt if it’s not too bad. Impromptu bath in the bathtub otherwise. It did take two people.

      • WomanInTheResistance

        That sounds pretty painful. You must miss your girls.

        • mancityRed6

          I do, but my elbow feels a lot better now that I’m not throwing ball for a couple of hours a day.
          Always look on the bright side and that sort of thing.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            (((Hugs)))

      • JustDon’tSayDittos

        Our two (<70 lbs combined) get lured into the master bath shower, where we (which usually means "I") shampoo, rinse, condition and rinse again, mostly in a half-bent over position. About a day later I feel hot wires in the backs of my legs. I usually need a shower myself when done toweling them off.

        • mancityRed6

          if it was warm out, Daisy usually got the filled up watering can
          she would submit to the bathtub, but drying was a matter of timing
          you had to get the most water off of her before she started to shake it off

    • Anna Rompage

      What kind of spa sends home a damp dog?

      • WomanInTheResistance

        The “not really a spa, actually my bathtub, but lordy that dog needs a bath” kind of spa.

  • Anna Rompage
  • Suse

    So Fidel Castro is dead. Compare and contrast Bamz’s reaction with/to El Gran Dictador Naranja’s. http://addictinginfo.org/2016/11/26/how-obama-and-trump-responded-to-fidel-castros-death-says-so-much-about-who-these-men-are/

  • memzilla (Maquis Uni)
  • bookish

    A documentary of Trump in the 1980s.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkUFUkvNYAQ

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      You realize I’m not supposed to eat chocolate or ice cream, right? Ugh if I need to binge eat after this none of you are allowed to tell on me to the dietitian.

      • WomanInTheResistance

        Your secrets are safe with us. For real.

      • mancityRed6

        I don’t do sweet anymore. There’s a nearly 2 pound bag of sour patch kids I bought last week, I still have 3/4s of it.
        The doritos I bought last night however….

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          I have half an originally two pound bag of sour gummy worms. But I’m pretty into fruit with dessert, so tarts are more my thing (especially with ice cream).

      • Carpe Vagenda

        I really like stevia. There’s no chemical taste and it doesn’t break down when you cook with it.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          I’m pretty sure I’m not supposed to eat fake sugar even more.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            Huh. Wonder why? It’s just an herb.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Something something diabetics shouldn’t eat sugar free foods something something. Or something like that. But also if you use only stevia in baking the finished product tastes like baking soda.

      • efoveks

        I would never tell your dietician. NEVER. :)

      • bookish

        Sorry Cats. It’s a good documentary though.

  • JustDon’tSayDittos

    Uh, Pinkham? Crab is Thanksgiving food in The Bay Area. But no worries, as I hear there are never any leftovers.

    • Suse

      No dungeness crab again this season in the Bay Area due to dangerous amounts of domoic acid, a neurotoxin. We usually have it for Christmas Eve, but not last year and probably not this year. Thanks, Obama!

      • Yr. Gma

        Thanks, Obama.

        • Suse

          Kidding!

      • Anna Rompage

        Really? You’ve got bad crabs down there again?

        Such a bummer!

      • Jamoche

        It’s finally been approved, $7/lb at safeway!

      • JustDon’tSayDittos

        Wait, what? No, I think the season opened more or less on time.

        • Suse

          Not available from large areas of the coast.

      • efoveks

        Yah, that’s what I always associate with crab: Christmas. My momma always bought King, or snow if she felt like dining with the peasants! She only did dungeness in pasta or the like… and to her, it was really slumming.

        She had a bigger wallet than I. I draw the line at canned. I will not eat canned crab. Which is one step above fake.

    • mancityRed6

      I was always told that the pilgrims didn’t share in the eating of lobster at the first thanksgiving because they looked like giant bugs.

  • mancityRed6

    I long to see 2016 gone, but I’m even more worried about 2017.
    Either way, here is this:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da01bb49e7ca899713d000919cffc0779fbf5d7b62d83d1555daea4ac95e32db.jpg

  • I wanderes until i found somewhere that would sell me something to snack on. Since i had French toast for breakfast, i wantes salty. I found a McDonalds that doesn’t sell fries.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Oh, that reminds me, is there a reason most of the Dairy Queens up there only have dessert?

      • Most of them are ice cream stands. And not open right now

        • Vienna Woods

          Hey, I’m a half-hour drive from 2 year-round full menu ones. At least. And I’m in the middle of the country.

          • I only know like two in London proper…the one on Wharcliffe is a stand…but the one a Fleetway is full menu. Plus the DQ/ Orange Julius combos at WhiteOaks and Masonville

          • Vienna Woods

            Tillsonburg and Simcoe both have all-year ones. St Thomas is just an ice cream one but its open year-round.

          • The one on Wharncliffe closes…but it’s built like a stand from a movie

        • JustDon’tSayDittos

          This has got to be the anti-snarkiest convo in the history of Wonkette.

      • Duke

        That’s the original DQ. They’d have hot dogs and fries, maybe. It was maybe 20 years ago that all new ones were like Hardees except with more ice cream stuff. And they wanted the old ice cream stands converted but man are on property that’s too small for one.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          This one had a mini parking lot in the middle of Toronto so I’m pretty sure there was room.

          • You found a place with parking in Toronto?!?!? You should move there

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            If you make the fast food places small enough you can have like 10-20 parking spaces and that’s what a lot of people do.

      • Vienna Woods

        Most of the ones I see are full menu.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          I saw two or three and I think they were all just ice cream.

          • Vienna Woods

            Odd. Down here in SW Ontario the small towns mostly all have a year-round full menu one.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Awesome because if I get accepted I’ll be in Windsor and I actually really like their french fries with a blizzard.

    • msanthropesmr

      Is there a reason for McDonalds to exist without fries?

    • Pinkham’s Law

      “a McDonalds that doesn’t sell fries.” That’s totally unAmerican!

      • msanthropesmr

        But what Pickwick doesn’t tell us, is that they have McPoutine.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          I knew whenever I asked FMC to get Wendy’s he’d get poutine for himself but I glared at him anyway because the smell is weird.

        • Nope. Normal McDonalds that have fries do though…this one was just weird

          • mancityRed6

            I just don’t understand. What are they offering as a side to a burger?

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            They shoot the cholesterol straight into your blood.

          • mancityRed6

            no, I’ve never had one of their “salads”

          • Greek fucking yoghurt…it’s a McCafe…which i was unaware stood on their own

          • mancityRed6

            no, and no again

          • WomanInTheResistance

            Somehow, I don’t think burgers ‘n yogurt will ever be a thing. Because, well just because.

          • mancityRed6

            Worst. Smoothie. Ever.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            I am laughing so much at this.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            I could get behind fries and yogurt.

          • mancityRed6

            fries and whatever the hell those nasty shakes are made out of, says the 16-20 year old me

          • Jonny On Maui

            Everything at MacD is made from the same stuff. The food, the fixtures, the building itself is all made from BMS, Basic MacDonald Stuff. It’s what’s left in fracking towers when the process is complete.

          • mancityRed6

            I worked there 26 years ago, before they relied on microwaves so much, so I’m kinda out of touch.

          • I miss when Tim Horton’s baked thier stuff on site

          • mancityRed6

            the woman I was with at the time didn’t like them so I never went
            she said the donuts were “cakey”

          • They are deep fried cakes! What was she expecting? Fucking biscuits?

          • mancityRed6

            the funny thing is, she was American and talked me out of moving to Texas by talking up Windsor when the only reason she was able to live in Canada was because of a marriage that she was still technically in and didn’t bother to mention before I drove all the way up to Michigan.
            yeah.

          • Wow, your ex is a Moran.

          • mancityRed6

            she moved to Tennessee with her dad and step mom so she could breed dogs.
            I only lasted 6 months after the move before I left

          • efoveks

            Just add a little salt…

          • msanthropesmr

            Polyethylene Glycol.

          • mancityRed6

            partially gelatinated non dairy gum based beverage

    • WomanInTheResistance

      That’s very strange.

    • Yr. Gma

      No poutine, either? I haven’t been in Toronto much since poutine became a thing (well, a popular thing instead of just a weird thing from the north.)

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    Sick of turkey? There were no turkey leftovers, so I’m actually thinking about getting one of those turkey breast roasts. I’m a good half-dozen turkey sammiches short of my quota this year…

  • Jonny On Maui

    OT: Been binging on one of my favorite shows with one of my favorite actresses, Ms. Christian. The following scene should only be viewed by adults older than the age of consent, mature content…

    https://youtu.be/_ADGYli7418

    • It’s nice you think we aren’t just sitting here, giggling over sex

      • Jonny On Maui

        Pickwick, please…

        We either giggle, gigglesnort, or cry over everything…

        • mancityRed6

          you have very accurately described my sex life

          • Jonny On Maui

            Yeah, well, call me when your’s has reverted to mono and theoretical.

            Unless you’re already there. Cuz I really don’t want to talk about it…

          • mancityRed6

            already there

          • I thought i did quite well at not laughing at the last guy i tried the sex with…micro penis..

          • mancityRed6

            I’m no John Holmes, but, when I think about the genetic lottery that exists, there are some things I can be thankful for

          • And that was more than 3 years ago…

          • mancityRed6

            yeah, I can feel your pain
            even when the now ex was sleeping beside me, at least that long

        • Well…we should stop most of the crying soon. Laughter fixes a lot. Especially when it’s directed at fascist assholes!

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      Ya know what’s fun? Turn off the sound and play The Time’s “Jungle Love”

    • WomanInTheResistance

      What is this “sex” that you speak of?

  • Duke

    I’m taking a liking to Jill Stein.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      There’s a sentence you don’t hear every day.

      • Yr. Gma

        Unless you hang with Susan Sarrandon.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          I’ll hang separately, thanks.

        • JMP

          Or Donald Trump.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Anna Rompage

      Don’t, the Green Party has decided to keep any money left over from the fund drive to put into their own party, instead of donating it to campaign finance reform like they had originally said..

      • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

        Totally never saw that one coming….

  • Stage 2 Little Lulu

    “Break crab legs at knees and let stand, unassisted, for three hours.”

  • Almost time to board my train! Yay!

  • Vienna Woods

    Really, 2016? REALLY? Ron Glass, too?

    • Shepperd?

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      (Don’t read this, limberrat) Literally the only good thing that happened in 2016 was my hometown Penguins winning the Stanley Cup. Fuck this year with a chainsaw of votes–oh, right…

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        This year isn’t over.

        • Nounverb911

          Hey the Gilmore Girls are back!
          https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/801832834793140224

          (What exactly are the Gilmore Girls)?

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            I read that, started watching the show, and I think that’s a bit of a stretch. Pretty much the only really good people in that show are Rory and Lorelai’s mother (also, I named a protagonist Lorelai without knowing anything about this show but now I’m thinking about changing it) and everyone else is well-intentioned but deeply flawed at the very best. But I’m only on episode two so what do I know.

      • Vienna Woods

        And my retirement. And directing a good show. Aside from that, major suckage.

      • Vienna Woods
      • mancityRed6

        I don’t live in Chicago, but I follow the Blackhawks occasionally.
        At least they finally won again.

    • Nounverb911
      • HogeyeGrex

        It will be useful for at least four more years.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      Goddammit. I just heard. God damn 2016.

  • My new glasses were ready, so I have a couple days to bang into things while my eyes adjust before I go back to the office on Monday.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e62d1bfb7cf3b2a0331e8aa73996d61704afd529badeecf4ead5d3a6d7c6c95a.jpg

  • msulawgrad2006

    We need to try to fight for every vote and district and state. LA has a vote coming up on 12/10/16…we need to help out. please lets donate to his campaign in hopes of narrowing the gap in the US senate….I know he is not a progressive in the true sense but at least he will not just give Trump a blank check without consequences….http://www.fostercampbell2016.com/

  • Anna Rompage

    Yay, the hosting is done and the lemmings are on their own….

    Civil war dinner has been served, there a delightful looks of glee on peoples faces, now it’s time for Jeffe to settle in and enjoy the game!

  • Carpe Vagenda
  • Nounverb911
    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      Good fucking riddance!

    • boyblue122

      Russia can keep him

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      He wll be sorely missed by . . . um . . . yeah, that’s what I thought.

    • Bill D. Burger
      • HogeyeGrex

        Other dude is like, “I am looking at a dead man.”

    • Juan de Payaso

      Everytime I see Seagal’s name I’m reminded of the time he went on Reddit for one of those Ask Me Anything deals. It started out with a few general questions that he answered but turned into a dumpster fire about 10 minutes later. Some of the questions he never replied to:

      Jean Claude Van Damme has recently stated that he believes he would, and I quote, “wreck you” in a battle of martial arts. What is your response?

      Hey Steve, what exactly happened to you during your kidnapping by the Gambino family in 2001?

      So what was the deal with the sex slave lawsuit?

      Do you feel remorse for physically assaulting your ex-wife? Does it conflict with your current job as a police officer?

      Any regrets about driving that f*cking tank into a guy’s house and killing his dog?

      http://uproxx.com/movies/steven-seagal-reddit-ama/3/

    • Good riddance.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      Looking in my garden of fucks…OK, let’s check my box of rat’s asses…well shit, I got nuthin’…

    • Bozilingus

      Will he go STV (Straight To Vladimir)?

    • Yr. Gma

      I hope they promised to keep him.

  • Ok, fuck it. I am going to finish Gilmore Girls. Be back later!

    • Vienna Woods

      I am going to make lemon curd while watching Gilmore Girls!

  • Bill D. Burger

    I just remembered. Halloween came on a Monday this year. If that doesn’t indicate just how fucked up and horrid 2016 has been, nothing does.

    http://www.dailyfailcenter.com:8080/sites/default/files/styles/fail/public/fail/aDGQPMx_700b.jpg?itok=hkE6DIX_

  • Nounverb911
  • Msgr_Moment

    Florence Henderson, Fidel, and now Ron Glass (Firefly). Will this year never end?

  • WomanInTheResistance

    Fuck 2016. Just fuck it. With a rusty chainsaw. Used by an arthritic, meth addicted, Alseimers patient. Godammit. Just, fuck it.

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      SERENITY NOW! RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

      • WomanInTheResistance

        SERENITY, WHILE MAJOR TOM AND THE BRADY BUNCH STAND IN THE PURPLE RAIN FOR 60 MINUTES SINGING HALLELUJAH AND FLOATING LIKE BUTTERFLIES AND I AM SO DONE WITH THIS FUCKING YEAR!

        • JustDon’tSayDittos

          WHILE MY GUITAR FUCKING WEEEEEEEPS!!!1!!!!
          *stiff drink*
          That’ll have to do. That plus the dog now licking my feet.

  • tehbaddr

    Will the recipe work if I use Crab meat from a can?

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      YOU MONST – oh wait, that’s all right, carry on…

    • Pinkham’s Law

      I certainly hope so – that’s what I used!

      • tehbaddr

        You didn’t buy that fancy stuff in the plastic tubs on ice in front of the seafood counter? YOU MONSTER!!!!1!!1!!!!1111!!!!!!

        • Pinkham’s Law

          I thought about it! Then I looked at my bank balance.

      • Anna Rompage

        Oh sure, so canned clams are out, but canned crabs are fine… ?

    • Nounverb911
      • tehbaddr

        I hear they have a flavor like what they eat, I’d totally be down with wrestling one of those beasts into a steamer!

  • JMP

    Crab cakes are delicious – particularly the way my dad makes them – but sadly crab meat is super expensive, especially this time of year when it’s way out of season.

    • HogeyeGrex

      Actually, we’re just getting the dungeness crabs in. We didn’t really get them at all last year. Something toxic, iirc. Spaceway has ’em at ~$7 a pound, which isn’t too awful, considering. If I felt like cooking them myself, the Chinese markets up on Clement probably have them cheaper. I’ve splurged for them twice already and don’t regret it. I’d attempt to make the crab cakes, but I doubt very much crab would last long enough around me to make it into the recipe.

      • JMP

        That’s dungeness crab though; it’s still very hard since moving out West to get used to having crabs that have the opposite season from regular crabs, along with being super giant, enough so that just one has almost as much meat as a lobster and makes a meal.

  • Serai 1

    RIP, Ron Glass

    He knew the brownies were hash, because “I can tell by the way I feel.”

    Here’s a story from the 80’s reboot of The Twilight Zone, in which Glass plays… well, watch for yourself. You won’t regret it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VudphgNoXj8

    • ltmcdies

      fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck….2016…fuck

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      music by the Grateful Dead, no less

      • Serai 1

        And Harlan Ellison worked with them as the story consultant.

    • Jukesgrrl

      Awww, I loved Ron Glass. I’m not much for sitcoms but Barney Miller was a great program. Harris and Dietrich (the late Steve Landesberg) were my favorite characters. Can this year get any worse? Rest in peace, indeed.

      • Serai 1

        My mom and I really liked Chano. Once we were scandalized when he just missed uttering an obscenity in Spanish… by one letter. We gasped as he led up to it and then cracked up at the last second swerve. Those writers were really clever. (And the glorious Abe Vigoda, patron saint of sad sacks everywhere.)

      • Vienna Woods

        Harris was totally my favorite. Then when I watched Firefly I’m like, who IS that guy? IMDBed, and then I knew. Loved Ron Glass so much.

    • Dg Hacket

      I like the Harlan Ellison credit at the end

      • Serai 1

        He wrote about working on TZ in his column “An Edge in My Voice”. According to him, that first season was real magic. I loved that show, so many great writers and directors working on episodes. Bruce Willis was in the first one. Helen Mirren appeared in an episode, too, as well as many other wonderful actors. Danny Kaye’s last performance! *sigh* Too bad the network didn’t have the faith to keep it going.

  • Anna Rompage

    Did I mention I started the day sipping on bloody Mary’s, and then graduated to little
    Nips of brandy and beer?

    Whoooooo, I’m a bit buzzed…

    Might be time to switch to green tea with toasted rice

  • Anna Rompage

    For fucks sake, all my pots are in use and I’m reheating the morning coffee in a stainless bowl on the stovetop…

  • Annnnd…first world problem: Netflix will not load on the train wifi!!!! No Gilmore for me.

  • Jukesgrrl

    Love me some crab cakes. But I’ve never tried to make them because if they turned out OK I’d eat them ALL. Maybe I could make half of this recipe. In any case, thanks Pinkham. Sounds delicious.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      I actually made a half recipe, since there are only two of us, and it isn’t something that keeps very well. It really is stupid easy!

  • Panika MCD

    we do Turkey burritos sometime in the 3 days after Turkey Day and I take some of the extra to put in Prima Momma’s eggs. we’re considering cutting out the middle man next year and just doing Turkey Day burritos, but we have to figure out what all to do with all the staples. obviously the cranberry dressing is going to be turned into some sort of salsa, but what to do with everything else?

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      maybe replace the frijoles with potato mash?

      • Panika MCD

        maybe, but we also have green beans to factor in.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      Throw it all in the Bass-O-Matic and give everybody a tall glass…

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      Is the idea to just wrap yummy things in a tortilla, or to make it all resemble a ‘real’ (whatever that is) burrito?

      • Panika MCD

        well, there’s spice, too. we put a butt ton of hatch chilies in our turkey burritos.

        • JustDon’tSayDittos

          Well, of course! Gonna be tough to make that work with green beans, though.

          • Panika MCD

            yeah, they may not work out. then you have to choose between putting sweet potatoes or mashed potatoes in there.

      • Markuserektus

        (Almost) anything’s good in a tortilla…

        • JustDon’tSayDittos

          I had to think about that. The one thing I dislike in a tortilla is another tortilla. Unless it’s Freebird Double Monster, then it sorta required in places.

          • Shanana Republic

            Gak. My local Freebird is disgusting. I tried over and over and they…no. It was 100% wrong all the time.

  • pianoplayer1

    Great tip about forming the crab into logs before refrigeration. I cannot wait to try this with Alabama Gulf Coast crabs. Yum!

  • msanthropesmr
    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      Wake up and smell the burning creosote!

    • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

      True. I’ve noticed that his cabinet does not have any CONFIRMED minorities on it, unless you count Nikki Haley (who considers herself white). They have certainly been very slow to find Hispanic and Asian candidates. At least ones that they publicize.

      • Markuserektus

        Well…there’s Sleepy Ben.

        • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

          Has he accepted? I have a feeling he is trying to find a way out but doesn’t want to say “no” to Donnie’s face.

  • Resistance Engineer Red Bird
    • For Mark to kick Steve in the teeth?

      • John Smith

        No, as usual to join the grift train.

        • Goddamit.

        • Resistance Engineer Red Bird

          I think so. Which makes me wonder if any of his Clinton support was real.

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    2016 is gonna suck right to the last sucking day. RIP Ron Glass.

    • Serai 1

      FYI, playback’s disabled on that vid.

      I’m dreading January 31. 2016 might decide to go out with a fucking orgy.

      • JustDon’tSayDittos

        I just clicked the linky and watched it in a separate tab.

    • Markuserektus

      Damn…58 celebrities (no, not including Castro).

    • Ricky Gay
    • HogeyeGrex

      2016 is going to keep sucking all the way through 2020.

    • Dazza

      Oh no. I loved him on Barney Miller – esp. his side-eye (it was fierce).

  • Nounverb911
    • Carpe Vagenda

      I find it disconcerting that the Times has gone al viva the revolution while they still have Maggie Habermann, handmaiden of Jim Crow, writing puff pieces about how cool Trump insiders are on the front page.

  • You should market these and sell ’em in stores right next to the Pillsbury tubes o’ cookie dough.

  • Ok. My obnoxious seat mates have left! FREEDOM!!!

    • Blacktop Cadence

      Did he man spread?

      • No…my assigned seat was in a group of four..and it was a mom and kid and one of the kid’s friends. They played Uno. *shudder*

        • Blacktop Cadence

          I played that during a sub assignment with a group of folks who had just graduated high school and were working to function in society productively (they all had severe cognative disabilities).

          They were total sharks, and I didn’t win a single game.

          • The friend had never played and they were having trouble following the directions (they were at least 10). I could hear them over Slipknot

  • John Smith

    No Old Bay seasoning? Sacrilege!!

  • Is everyone in a food coma still? Normally we are much more hoppin’

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      I’m watching Gilmore Girls and trying to convince myself not to keep eating.

      • Jelly. I can’t get netflix to load on the train’s wifi, so the last episode is on hold till i get home

        • Vienna Woods

          I’m in the middle of summer right now, but Mr VW is home and we’re going to watch Westworld. Star’s Hollow will have to wait.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          I’ve never seen it before. It’s not quite as funny as I expected.

          • Sister the Resister!

            I suppose it’s not supposed to be funny, so much as quirky. Which the characters certainly are. Haven’t seen this latest rendition yet, but avidly binge-watched every season of the old show.

          • Do it! The new eps are great so far..

    • Nounverb911

      Well, my college vs Pinkham’s college is on the TV machine now, so ta ta for now…

      • Pinkham’s Law

        You’re not gonna livebloog it on here?

        • Nounverb911

          Maybe, probably not…

        • Nounverb911

          AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!

          • Pinkham’s Law

            DAMMIT!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!1111!!

        • Nounverb911

          YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHH!

          • tehbaddr

            No, that’s not live slogging!

          • Nounverb911

            TV is no where near the computer.

        • Nounverb911

          More YEEEAAAAAHHHH!

          • Pinkham’s Law

            It’s going about as well as I expected, honestly. Getting back at us for that 5 in a row streak we had a few years ago, it seems. :(

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        You’re a Clemson, man/lady? One of my good buddies graduated from there, and my brother graduated from USC. I didn’t realize you were from SC!

        • Nounverb911

          No Long Island, When I was applying for Architectural school, out of state tuition at Clemson was less expensive than in state in NY and the only NYS school of Architecture was Buffalo at the time…

          In grad school Clemson tuition was $75 a semester for 15 credits…I dedicated my thesis to the people of SC for paying for my education.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Ha! I grew up on Long Island, too.

            My buddy went to Clemson’s architectural school, but I have a feeling it was a good bit more expensive than $75 a semester when he went. When I went to the College of Charleston it was $500 a semester (in state), I think it’s $20,000 per year now.

          • tehbaddr

            Suffolk or Nassau? And don’t say just a bit away from the Northern/Southern State, or LIE!

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Suffolk, in the best town in the world – Huntington!

            Funny story, I went to a small town in SC and had lunch. I noticed the waitress had a Long Island accent. I asked her where she was from, she said “Long Island” I said “me too, what part?” She said “Huntington.” I said “me, too, where did you go to high school?” She said “Harborfields.” I said “me, too, what year did you graduate?” She said the year, and I said “me, too, what’s your name?” Her brother and my brother were best friends, and I knew her, too. She was kind of a bitch back then, and I don’t think she’s improved too much. I’m sure she voted for Trump since she was telling me how the Spanishes were taking all the good jobs in restaurants on Long Island.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      I’m starting a new one. Forgot how filling Eggplant Parmesan is. *groan*
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/91ae1ad641b8d7a5c3175c09a353d8598e1f047ca1c465771f5bc25634fc9b26.jpg

      • Looks tasty. Can i use other cheese in place of the eggplant? Like gouda parmasean?

        • Pinkham’s Law

          If you are Eggplant phobic, I’d probably just go with thick slices of Garlic bread and slather on the cheese and sauce. And no need to bake!

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          What if I just make lasagna rollups and pretend that’s the kind of food I’m supposed to be eating?

      • Truthiness2U

        I was told not to overdo it (beyond my other forms of overdoing it) for Thanksgiving (I know! Libtards don’t know the benefit of stuffing your gullet until you’re sick).

        So short story long, I didn’t have a chance to make my ‘green bean and onion’ from scratch thing I normally do, and I have all the ingredients. So will be making that tomorrow. To add a bit of variety with the other leftovers.

    • tehbaddr

      Now begins the winter of our discontent.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        Please tell me it involves hibernation.

        • tehbaddr

          OK yes it does, in a sense.

      • Suffering the slings and arrows of misfortune?

      • JustDon’tSayDittos

        That always makes me think of Steinbeck.

    • Shanana Republic

      I made cilantro lime chicken with black beans and corn in the slow cooker today (yes, I’m still on my “Kitchening for Idiots” plan stop judging me) but it was a bit watery again so I lobbed in the nicely thickened Wonker-Rescued Black Bean Stew from the other day and that’s set it up nicely texture-wise. I tasted it and the long-term melding of the lime juice and cilantro went very well into the super-tender chicken that’s being shredded to go into tacos or tortillas or whatever. So I have a dinner win for my picky daughter and her friend who is here for a sleepover.

      Plus, I binge-watched all of Luke Cage starting last night and am on Jessica Jones again now. I’d have more eps done but Windows 10 is a bitch with Bluetooth devices, apparently, so I finally stopped struggling to fix it and hooked my laptop up to my speaker with my son’s aux cord that I filched out of my car and basically bought from him by giving him money to go get a new one.

      So that’s my Wonker status update.

      • Sister the Resister!

        Hey, I LIKE your Kitchening for Idiots plan, and would do same if I only owned a large freezer (the tiny one I have now won’t cut it for these kinds of projects)

        • Shanana Republic

          I’m just doing mine in a regular freezer. You know, the kind you have with your regular refrigerator. They really don’t take up that much space, especially if you store them properly (I’ve had some issues and some advice to offer if anybody is doing this).

          • cynmac will never surrender

            I use ziploc bags, the ones made for freezing. I lay them flat and they don’t take up much room.

          • Sister the Resister!

            Well, if I didn’t have ice, blue ice, various frozen thingies for lunch, a turkey, pot, a bag of coffee beans, vacuum-packed salmon caught by a pal, home-made soup frozen in individual serving-size containers, and a lot of old bananas for banana bread already in there, that would probably work for me too! :)

          • Shanana Republic

            I didn’t do all of mine on the same day. If you cycle stuff out eventually, it could work.

          • MizzMazz

            Get one of those Food Saver vacuum sealers. I got tired of my plastic containers opening in the freeze rand the food going to waste. You can make the packets any size you want, and because all the air is sucked out, they take up very little room, and no freezer burn!you can write on the packets with a sharpie the contents and date. There’s just the two of us at my house, so big things like soups, stews and chili actually get eaten now instead of going to waste.

          • Beanz&Berryz

            Pint size or other bigger but still smallish containers are nice to defrost just a meal’s worth at a time – for however many a meal is for…

    • cynmac will never surrender

      Watching MeTV Sci-Fi Saturday night. Incredible Hulk is on now.

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    So maybe the Clinton campaign is getting in on the recounts to make sure they don’t throw out Hillary votes to make Stein look better…

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      Nah Jill Stein has made a cover for Hillary to get in on this without being blamed for the death of democracy (as if Donald hadn’t already dealt it a fatal blow) so she thought, “Well, I guess it’s time to get back up and fight some more”.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Or maybe Hillary realizes that even in the face of the death of democracy, Clinton derangement is rooted so deep that some folks will sidetrack the conversation to how much she sucks if the attempt to head off the apocalypse comes from her. Even more bizarrely, the objectively contemptible Dr Stein appears to inspire respect from the same demographic. Seems like a reasonable decision to me.

        • Serai 1

          Yep. Hillary gets a fairer shot, we get the numbers and Stein gets some good PR. Okay!

      • jowgajen

        The letter on Medium from the campaign chair seemed all logical and adult like.

        https://medium.com/@marceelias/listening-and-responding-to-calls-for-an-audit-and-recount-2a904717ea39#.9n722ne9e

  • Blacktop Cadence

    OT: Ladies, advice time. Leggings in a semi-professional (i.e. teaching) setting? Yay or nay? I was thinking about them with a flannel shirt and a comfy sweater with proper accessories.

    • Apparently it’s fine. I am not a fan of the look on me, but i am told it works

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Heh, it’s gonna be a while yet, but I want to begin planning this stuff out. I plan to ask my teacher ladies too.

        • It will probably depend on the school/district

        • Shanana Republic

          You know what? They’ll like that, especially the ones who are supportive of your transition.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Probably a jacket, or at least a tailored cardigan, with a shell or a tank would send a more formal signal.

      • Also true. I wear a blazer over my nerd shirts on casual day. I get compliments on that look

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Part of this is going by how the other women I see dress in the district. I want to be a step above the jeans many wear (others only on Fridays or special days with school activity related t-shirts). I want to be a step up from that, most definitely, but I’m learning a whole new dress norm here. Haha.

    • BadWolfGirl

      Make sure the caboose is covered ;)

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Yeah, if I did this I’d wear them long.

        That way I don’t have to tuck either. :-D

    • Also: Pantsuit!

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Not my style. Haha.

        • Make it yours! I have some that work well together and as separates

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Style or comfort because I wasn’t kidding about the yoga pants (they also make shirts and blazers) https://www.betabrand.com/

          • Blacktop Cadence

            OOoo, bookmarked.

          • Blacktop Cadence

            I really liked that stuff like the cowl necked sweater. I just love long, comfy looking stuff that will still be professional and cute.

            *looks at belly* I need to double my time on the bike. :-D

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            Don’t worry that type of thing is surprisingly easy to pull off

          • Blacktop Cadence

            I plan to be 50 to 60 pounds less than I am now by the end of the summer. >.>

          • cowl neck sweater? oooooooo

          • Blacktop Cadence

            I really liked those. :-D

          • i have several cowl neck tops. they help disguse the boob-shelf

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            There’s really nothing up top they can’t hide if it’s well-designed.

    • jowgajen

      A pair of dress slacks is appropriate for all occasions. I may be too old to see leggings as outer layer clothing.

      • IOnlyLikeCats

        You can get yoga pants that look like dress pants, though they’re expensive. You should definitely get a couple of pairs.

      • Blacktop Cadence

        One of the styles I’m seeing with leggings are longer tops and knee high boots. Seems to be very popular among the English department this summer.

        (Yes, I identify teachers by department like a tribe).

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          I love that look but generally it has to be a really short dress to work (and thicker leggings).

          • Blacktop Cadence

            Yup, like above, cover the caboose.

            And nothing that will expose your cleavage. Haha. They emphasized that with the female student teachers. Make sure the girls aren’t showing if you bend over.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      It’s really quite relative. I think you should ask the lady folk who work in your school district.

      • Blacktop Cadence

        I think that’s a big part of the plan here. I plan to begin asking around.

      • Shanana Republic

        Yeah, that’s always a good clue. Check out the women you work with. Sometimes that’s tricky, though, because all the women in the accounting department where I used to work seemed to be having this contest to see who could wear the grossest looking stripper shoes.

        • Blacktop Cadence

          Haha, I plan to now flat out ask the woman who my body type is most likely gonna end up the most like. I think we share similar style ideas, too, so her guidance may be worthwhile.

          • Shanana Republic

            It’s good to have someone to talk to about these things. I never really did. I just snuck peeks at my co-workers and most of the time went somewhere between “Nope, not doing capris and flip-flops” and “holy shit, if they want me to dress like an internationally famous fashion model, they need to PAY me like one.”

    • Shanana Republic

      I’ve worn crazy-print leggings to work with a big knee-length dress over them (with ankle boots) and was told I looked very professional. But that’s in comparison to my usual jeans and company-logo t-shirt. For context, it was told to me by an older lady who always dresses “business casual” in long full skirts and cardigans so take that as you will.

    • Truthiness2U

      In replacement for actual pants? I would say “no.” To paraphrase Blair Waldorf, leggings are not pants.

      Now under a skirt (or even long shorts) with a flannel shirt and comfy sweater.

      Though I have to say, this would as a teacher? Depends on your school district, and depends on the grade. Oh, and my mom was a teacher in the Midwest and Left Coast.

      • Blacktop Cadence

        Yeah, this is high school.

        If I wore leggings it’d be with the ass and front covered with something longer. To paraphrase Kate McKinnon, I won’t have my poop chute and coot-coot out on display. ;-)

        • Shanana Republic

          I find a good rule is to treat leggings like they’re tights or opaque panty-hose.

          • Truthiness2U

            Exactly how I look at them.

          • IOnlyLikeCats

            I wear the winter versions and after 3/4 of a year at Job Corps I’m much less stringent on that.

        • Truthiness2U

          So you live in a relatively okay hip, and happening in far-out ways, place? (I watched the underrated Brady Bunch movie last night, in memory of Florence) because even then teachers can be held to different dressing standards.

          I agree, check out what others are wearing. Go by that. Best rule of thumb.

          • Blacktop Cadence

            Somewhat? Well, we are the Midwest, bvut I am going by what I’ve seen most of the women wear, and the usual with leggings is something long enough to distinctly cover your rump and, uh, frontbottom? Heh.

            That’s more of what I was looking at. Long sweaters.

            Something like this from the website linked below.

            https://static5.betabrands.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/0dc2d03fe217f8c83829496872af24a0/c/o/cowl_neck_tunic__gray_pink__3.jpg?iopts=1150x,q80

          • Truthiness2U

            Teachers in high school wear that?

          • Blacktop Cadence

            A little more formal most of the time, but yup. There’s definitely a lot more casual dress now.

            Like I said in this thread, jeans are pretty common, as are school windbreakers and even fleece jackets.

          • Truthiness2U

            The jeans, fleece jackets…totally. See that all the time.

            But hey, you sound like you’re going to scope it out, and that’s a good idea.

            I think a good rule of thumb is to dress a bit more on the formal/less exciting side of the spectrum at first. Then when you a.) have gotten a better handle on what people really dress like on a regular basis b.) established yourself as being professional, that it’s more acceptable to take risks.

    • Vienna Woods

      No. Bear in mind I’m an old bitch of a retired lady teacher who had to put up with too many young colleagues dressing like that over the last few years. Ours was a casual school and I got away with t-shirts and jeans. But I never even when young wanted to be too revealing in the classroom with teenage boys.

      • Juan de Payaso

        As a former teenage boy, that was a wise choice.

        https://youtu.be/6M4_Ommfvv0

      • Shanana Republic

        Sorry, no. Teenagers are sexually aroused by linoleum, whether they’re boys or girls. We don’t need to slut-shame anyone for what they’re wearing. People need to learn to control themselves no matter what anyone is wearing.

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Does anyone ever stop to think about how many of the people my age get aroused by females in skirt suits? Seriously.

          • Shanana Republic

            I know, right? Next time I see a guy in jeans and a cable knit fisherman’s sweater, I’m not gonna be able to stop myself from grabbing him by the balls.

        • Vienna Woods

          It’s not that I was afraid of arousing them. I just didn’t think that it was the appropriate venue for sexy dressing.

          • Shanana Republic

            Oh. I guess that I’ve never put “leggings” into the category of sexy dressing. I mean, I’ve seen professional long sleeved silk blouses paired with below-the-knee pencil skirts that were a lot sexier than leggings.

          • Shanana Republic

            Problem is that “sexy” has been in the eye of the beholder, which has been for the most part school admin who have been sending home or re-dressing in “shame clothes” the students they’ve decided were “inappropriately dressed” for the classroom or a school function, and the vast majority of the time that’s the girls.

            That’s kind of gross and inappropriate and makes the school staff look like the skeevy ones, as far as I’m concerned.

    • snark-lurker

      leggins az in “simulatin nood” yoga pantz? should we haz a fap woody now?

      • Shanana Republic

        Go for it! But I suggest you stay home.

    • Jonny On Maui

      When I was a young lad in the 7th grade my teacher, Miss Smith, yes, I remember her, imprinted me for life. This was long ago. Miss Smith was a short little thing. Due to an accident of last name I sat in the first row. Miss Smith started each class by going to the far left side of the chalkboard, right in front of me, reaching up as high as she could and starting to write the day’s lesson. Thanks to her I developed a love of mathematics and a stocking/garter fetish…

      • Both of those SEEM ok…but i’m suspicious of the math

      • Shanana Republic

        Technically, a “fetish” means one can’t get off unless the specific stimulus is present. I don’t think that’s what you mean. Possibly “kink” is what you’re talking about.

        I’m a word nerd. Also, I had to research this stuff for reasons I don’t really want to get into.

        • Jonny On Maui

          Go ahead. Stomp all over my little attempt at haha.

          I think it would be a little kinky to talk fetish with you! ;-)

          • Shanana Republic

            No, it wouldn’t. My BFF (who is into that kind of thing) told me that anything I write in that regard sounds more like medical advice.

          • Jonny On Maui

            *gigglesnort!*

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          Well that depends if we’re talking DSM, ICD, colloquialism, historically or dictionary (they are pretty much all different). Although, I don’t think any one of them (other than the ICD) have quite as stringent a definition as you.

    • Thiazin Red

      In a professional setting? No, opt for real pants.

      • bookish

        Especially if this is a new job situation for you. Go slow, get the lay of the land first. You can always ratchet up your style later.

  • Resistance Engineer Red Bird
    • tehbaddr

      They’re the go to online order for spices!

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      So Mike Pence is getting in on the grift early?

    • Jennifer R

      Penzy is good but sometimes pricey stuff. I like the smokey seasoned sea salt.

  • JustDon’tSayDittos

    Sorta related: Mrs. Dittos just came down with big bowls of lobster chowder. Potatoes, corn, fresh lobster, a little wine and sherry in the broth. Just the thing on a cool rainy afternoon.

    So STFU, Donnie. Even you can’t spoil my mood right now.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      YUMMMM.

    • Doug Langley

      Dah-rool, dah-rool.

  • beingreleased

    I’d just like to point out that this seems like an excellent idea. I did not see any Old Bay in the recipe though.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      That would be because they are Lowcountry Style Crabcakes. It’s one of the key things that makes them “Lowcountry Style.”

      • beingreleased

        I’m going to try making this tomorrow, but since I am in Maryland I will need to use Old Bay so I can be seen in polite society again.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        I’m a little surprised that low country crab cakes don’t involve rice. Is there a tradition of bread crumbs too?

      • La Resistance O’hontas

        But there are bays in the lowcountry, right? Seems unfair to favor new bays… RECOUNT!1!

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Speaking of the Lowcountry, if anyone reading this is going to be in Charleston soon, do yourself a favor and go to Sermet’s on James Island. Hell, do yourself a favor and Google pictures of the food, and then drool all over your pantsless self. It’s a combination of Lowcountry and Mediteranean, they call it “Southernterranean” and it is beyond good. The chicken dish, and the shrimp polenta are to die for.

        Here’s the main menu:
        http://sermets.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/FINAL-Sermets-JI-Menu-Back.pdf

        Here are the Apps:
        http://sermets.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/FINAL-Sermet-JI-Menu-Front-2.pdf

        • Pinkham’s Law

          Charleston has so much amazing food! It’s hard to find a bad restaurant there.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            A friend of mine who comes from NYC always says I’ve never taken her anywhere that she’s had a bad meal. Il Mondos is just down the street from Sermets, and it has really good Italian food.

          • Pinkham’s Law

            When I have friends from up north visit Chucktown, I always point them towards Blossom. ALWAYS good food, and upscale without being big bucks.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            I haven’t been to Blossom’s in eons. I’m not really sure why.

  • Juan de Payaso
  • At least one person at CNN has a brain in their head:

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/the-investigators-amanpour-1.3868441

  • IOnlyLikeCats

    I remembered to take all my pills today! Which means it’s time for me to go to sleep now, goodnight you guys, enjoy the weekend.

    • Shanana Republic

      G’night, Kitty-lover!

    • G’night!

    • WomanInTheResistance

      Sleep well.

    • Jonny On Maui

      Good night IOnlyLikeCats.

  • Almost home! Train pulling into home station soon and my cab home is already ordered!

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Working on my finance class final (in the hope that this certificate will lead to a better job) and I am happy to report that Trumpflation is already a term on Investopedia. Glad SOMEONE (besides us) sees through him!

  • Oh, dear:

    Looks like we’re going to have to cover Jill Stein, again, because the recount’s on.

    Say, Jill, you know what would have been even more helpful than spearheading a campaign for a recount?

    • Jennifer R

      Just because someone does something does not mean we must comment on it.

    • Anna Rompage

      Yeah, election fraud from Stein holds about as much weight as her take on wi-fi, or vaccines, or her ideas about student debt, or the music she is part of making…

    • Serai 1

      I don’t give a shit why she’s doing it. It needs to be done, she raised the money, it’s being done, and divisions aren’t helpful. Yes, she’s a prat, but she’s doing something useful.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        For a change.

  • Jennifer R

    I’ll cut a bitch who bad mouths stuffing.

    • Truthiness2U

      Seriously! Like ‘sick of stuffing’? That’s crazy talk! There is never too much thing as too much stuffing. I mean, unless it’s bad stuffing. In which case, life is too short for bad food.

      • I LOVE STUFFING!

        …Your mama.

        • Truthiness2U

          Is that what they mean by stuffing the bird?

          wink wink. nod nod

      • We had two kinds of stuffing – the oven kind, and “butt stuffing” as my brother-in-law dubbed it as it cooked inside the turkey.

        • Truthiness2U

          Well as a vegetarian, I make stove top stuffing. This year split some of my precioussssss ssssstuffingssss to give to my mom to put with her turkey.

          But to make up for that, I’m going to buy some stuffing before it leaves the shelves, and whip me up another batch. Just for myself.

          So :P

          • Sister the Resister!

            Hey, I’ve made vegetarian dressing for my veggie friends, with veggie broth intead of turkey/chicken stock, and it was DEEE-licious! And also, too, better than the box kind (and I do kinda like the box kind)

          • Truthiness2U

            Nothing wrong with some Pepperidge Farm (though it runs away) or Orowheat, or (sobs) my beloved Brownberry Sage and Onion stuffing (sobs some more as you can only get in parts of the upper Midwest, and it rocks) stuff from a bag or box.

            Add fresh rosemary (I have a yoougely klassly plant in my back yard) to the original ingredients and voila! super nummer stuffing.

            Which should NOT be made into a crap cake (that doesn’t even include Old Bays!)

    • bookish

      Understandable.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Look at this sundae from a restaurant in New York, and weep with joy:
    http://www.grubstreet.com/2016/11/leuca-andrew-carmellini-new-brooklyn-restaurant.html

    • Shanana Republic

      I am weeping but not with joy.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Weeping because you’re not close enough to NYC to have one?

    • Thiazin Red

      That pizza looks kind of terrible.

      • JustDon’tSayDittos

        It’s one thing to have a “blistered crust”. That’s too much burnt flour there. That’s not going to taste good.

    • I am really regretting not being in The Bronx, just a the moment.

      …Yes, even for those things you other guys have pronounced gross. (I really like super well-done pizza. The good lady wife and I wept with joy when we discovered that both of us had the same broken pizza sensibilities.)

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        I just had a Grimaldi’s pizza (albeit not in NY) yesterday, and it was glorious.

    • Doug Langley

      Mmmmmm . . . sundae . . .

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        The “Sophia Loren” sundae no less!

        • Doug Langley

          Mmmmmm . . . Sophia Loren . . .

  • WomanInTheResistance

    This is completely random. But why not? For BC.
    https://youtu.be/PIb6AZdTr-A

  • Nounverb911

    HALFTIME!
    Yeah some more.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      Your offense has been good, but your defense has been absolutely terrifying.

  • So, for the recent Gluttonalia, I found myself in Portland, as I usually do, and there was some discussion of the Recent Unpleasantness and the resultant Portlandia “riot”, from those who had seen it. According to these eye witnesses, the actual rioters were “young punks” who came in after the actual protest and caused mayhem using the protest as camouflage. The actual protesters began a Go Fund Me to rebuild the businesses damaged the next day.

    I haven’t heard about this Go Fund Me from any media source. I’ve only heard about the RIOT IN PORTLAND!11!!11!

    Furthermore, there was much shaking of heads and clucking of tongues over Portland newspaper’s story revealing that a third of the people involved in the protest didn’t even vote!. The actual story is a bit more nuanced. It was dealing with the people arrested, not the total number of protesters, and, even then, not all of the names could be thoroughly checked to absolutely state that they did not vote.

    But, my opinion was in the minority on this one: with the Electoral College, in Portland, you don’t have to vote. The state will go blue, just has it always has. This is why I find the system to be disenfranchising: what difference does it make to vote for Hillary in Portland, or Olympia? What difference does it make voting for Trump? Some states are just blue. Some are just red. Only in swing states does every single vote matter. Remove the college, and suddenly two million fucking votes matter. Every single vote matters, even those in the midwest. Because, hey, if enough people get out, even Kentucky could go blue. It could happen.

    TL;DR: Thanksgiving happened. Some discussion of politics happened. No one died, excepting that no one pardoned the turkey, either. There were daddy jokes, though.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      Screw those jackasses. What buffoons.

      I’m talking about the jerks who destroyed things. Not your friends or the real protesters.

    • Sister the Resister!

      In my own lifetime, you only have to go back to 1984, with Reagan’s 2nd election, to find a red Oregon and Washington. It does matter, and it’s not inevitable that a state always swings one way or another. A trend is only a trend until it isn’t.

  • Nounverb911

    Sounds like Doofus Donnie had a fun bunch for Thanksgiving dinner.
    https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/802686011239235588

  • Apple Scruff

    I’m sitting here watching a marathon of ‘The 80s’ on CNN (which I’ve watched a dozen times already and is awesome every time). And there is this hilarious Lewis Black promo for a mini series coming up in February: “History of Comedy”. And I just don’t get how CNN can be so good sometimes and yet so freakishly, mind-numbingly awful with the day to day news stuff.

    • Serai 1

      Has Lewis been on TDS since the election? I’m dying to hear him go off on all this.

      • Apple Scruff

        I tried to find the commercial online because he is indeed talking about Drumpf and Twitter and it’s hilarious.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    And it’s official: Jill Stein might be doing something good, but she’s still an asshole:

    https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/802634974281220097

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Glad my vote is finally being counted:

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/802383880770691072

    • Truthiness2U

      We’ll see if you guys can beat our (outside of DC) voting for DJT of 8%. I hope we keep out second best outing.

  • Say, Ozzy, can you explain what’s going on right now?

    https://youtu.be/H-PQeWJ2ZC8

    …Damn. That’s mighty prescient for someone who can’t remember his own name, these days. . .

  • Bill D. Burger

    Just saw the ‘all too common Conservative caught in gay scandal’ story du jour: (Hope it’s not old news I just came across.)
    Conservative Republican La parish president Mike Jenni says he was sexting a teenager he met at a local mall and suggests he might have engaged in some ‘inappropriate behavior’ (lil kissy and touchy,feely) in the bathroom with the 17 year old young man, but ____ ~wait for it….wait for it~___ he is not gay. Nope. He just doesn’t really understand what happened and wants to move on. Thank you very much.
    BTW: 17 is the age of consent in Louisana (so he’s clear there) but the sexting could carry heavy federal criminal penalties because the young man was under 18 years of age. But…his biggest worry is that someone might think he, studly family man he is, is gay! bwwwwaahaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
    Oh those GOP “family values” scamps just take the cake, huh?

    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/mike_yennis_explicit_texts_to.html

    https://queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com/content/docs/2016/09/30125755/mike-yenni-alex-diagle.jpg

    • “I’m not gay at all! It’s just that occasionally, I like fucking men. What’s gay about that?”

      • Bill D. Burger

        “Suck me, fuck me, spank me and call me names, and I’ll blow you and ___but don’t kiss me, I’m straight.”
        ___________The Credo of the GOP Conservative Caucus.

    • OrG

      “Why do these queers keep sucking my dick?”

    • zerosumgame0005

      gay adjacent?

  • Pinkham’s Law

    About Damn time, Carolina! FFS.

  • Gosala

    The next installment on Stamped from the Beginning

    I grew up in the church that celebrated the shining city in the hill, that saw America as the new Jerusalem, the country of God where justice and righteousness ruled.

    We believed the myth that Pilgrims came to this land to find freedom and found it and that their freedom symbolized the freedom of all, implicit to be sure, but sure to become manifest in time.

    We believed that the progress of mankind [sic] was onward and upward forever.

    I have since been told that Black Christianity is different. It is more grounded in Egypt and Exodus. “Go Down Moses ” is more expressive than “Hail the Ancient, Glorious City. ”

    Injustice is the reality of the moment. Justice is the hope of the future. When MLK said he had a dream, it wasn’t simply a dream of the fulfilment of the ideals of implicit in the present age. It was a radical vision, that American Egypt would be transformed into an American Jerusalem.

    We, white people don’t understand that. So we domesticated “I Have a Dream,” and we forget the rest of MLK, especially the parts that were, at the time, thought dangerous, provocative, disturbing and difficult.

    For myself, I can no longer adhere to the America is the new Jerusalem, America is the land of freedom, of opportunity, the land that God has given to us.

    Nor can I go back to the feeling that this land is Egypt. For my people, this land has tried to claim that it is on my side, whilst and at the same time excluding others.

    This land promised that everyone would be equal. And yet, we are still far from that.

    It is not adequate, but for the moment, I am in Exile: we had a good thing going (even though it wasn’t as good as we thought) and now it’s gone.

    What happened? What happens next?

    • Pinkham’s Law

      We keep going. One foot ahead of the other. Remember that the Shining City on a Hill was an ideal: a goal. We keep trying to reach that goal.

      • There will be a lot of working, girl:

        https://youtu.be/cv-0mmVnxPA

        • Pinkham’s Law

          Yes. It isn’t going to be easy. We have to educate ~3/4 of our country about the things they should have learned in 8th or 9th grade Civic classes, to begin with. To remind them that one of the 6 reasons the Founders gave for ordaining and establishing our Constitution was “to promote the general Welfare.” Social programs are NOT anti-Constitutional, for fucks sake!

        • Dazza

          Damn, that was BIG hair. I had forgotten the 80s look .was so .. um ..lacquered.

      • Gosala

        But Pharaoh’s heart is hard.

        • Pinkham’s Law

          It is, indeed. But even the hardest stone yields, eventually, to the relentless flow of water. Be the water.

          • Gosala

            Yeah, but no.

            Physically, water wears down the hardest rock.

            Politically, that never happens.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            But it does. Think of the changes that have happened in the past half century. Take courage and inspiration from the many people who have risked everything for justice.

            https://youtu.be/4VsE9T4Sr30

          • Gosala

            Since 1966 we have seen

            The defeat of ERA and the resurgence of “traditional” gender roles in which women are the submissive gender with an increasingly marginal role in the economy.

            Assaults on reproductive freedom. How many states have found end runs around Roe v. Wade so that abortion is effectively illegal?

            The end of welfare as we know it and the creation of the school to prison pipeline. The laws that punish Black people severely for crimes that white people are hardly punished for at all. The imposition of a police state upon Black people.

            Reaganomics. The stagnation of wages and the deterioration of social programs while the rich benefit from tax breaks and subsidies despite contributing nothing to the economy.

            The birth of the notion that corporations have no obligation except to maximize shareholder value.

            The denial by neoliberals and conservatives that society exists, that there is any relation between man and man [sic ] except the cash nexus.

            Climate denialism. That a concern for the environment or for the climate is nothing but a ploy to…whatever.

            The election of He Who Shall Not Be Named. The triumph of xenophobia, racism, misogyny,

            Yeah, the last fifty years have been a hoot and a half

          • yyyaz

            Yep. 1966 was one of the best years of my life. I was 12.

          • Gosala

            I was 8. And, yeah. We thought the Millennium was here and now.

            Turns out it wasn’t.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            We have seen women have the right to their own credit histories. To having the right to take any job. Is it perfect? No. Is it better? Yes. Are we paid equally? No. Are we aware of this, and that this is wrong? Yes.

            Reproctive freedom is under assault, no question. But are there “septic wards” in the hospitals? No. Not yet. And we need to fight for women’s health.

            The horrible racism that has infected our country from the beginning is still with us. But is it truly worse than it used to be? Understand that I think it is godawful, and inexcusable, and real.

            Our gay and trans citizens are safer and more accepted than they have ever been in this country.

            Donald fucking Trump is horrible. He is a huge blot on our country. And yes, the racist, sexist assholes are crawling out from under their rocks. It will not be easy. But we will win. Please hang in there.

          • Gosala

            So you pass a very mixed verdict.

            Have you considered why the results have been so very mixed?

          • WomanInTheResistance

            The results have been mixed. As we stagger forward three steps, we get dragged back two. But things are better than they were.

            And it’s no mystery why we are not in a better place. Ridiculously wealthy RWNJs funding mouth-breathing troglodytes does not a healthy society make.

          • shivaskeeper

            Not to mention the fundygelicals. Most of Gosala’s list of bad come directly from white evangelical churches.

            You are right of course BTW, two forward, one back. But we keep pushing forward, because the ones who want to pull us back won’t stop.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            I have some hope for the Millenial fundies. They aren’t as homophobic as their elders, for one thing. And many of them do think that actual babies need to be fed and housed. Even outside of the wonb.

          • shivaskeeper

            The elders have been losing control of them basically because the internet exists. Not all their info comes from Lifeway bookstores anymore. Most of the fundamentalist sects are hemorrhaging millennials.

            The problem is the leaders still wield religion as a weapon and they’re still effective at it. As long as the youngs stay away from the toxic shit, they should be OK.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            I hope that the youngs are ok. I will never share the fundy point of view, but that’s OK in a pluralistic society. As long as they are not actively toxic, hateful people.

            Such a low bar to set for “Christians”. My mom does the UCC church. Her congregation voted to sign up as Muslims should any such registry really happen. She went shopping on Black Friday, for clothes and toys to donate. I loathe the fundamentalist leadership, mostly because they aren’t actual Christians.

          • shivaskeeper

            I personally don’t care how hateful and toxic they want to be in church, My issue is when they try to give their faith the force of law. I have to call them Christian because that’s how they identify themselves. But they pray to Republican Turbo Jesus exclusively.

            Good on your mom and her church.

          • Gosala

            Most of Gosala’s list of bad come directly from white evangelical churches.

            I dispute that claim. White liberal churches also too

          • WomanInTheResistance

            And which liberal churches are you speaking of?

          • Gosala

            UUA, UCC, Friends, Anglicans, Ethical Society, American Baptists, liberal Catholics, most Methodists and Presbyterians.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            I am confused. What exactly are you accusing them of doing?

          • Gosala

            Nothing. Why do you think I am accusing them of anything?

          • shivaskeeper

            The liberal churches I have seen tended towards trying to help but being ineffectual. The fundy churches tended towards outright trying to harm anyone not just like them.

            ETA Clarity: Ineffectual because they don’t have the right tools to help with the problems they see, mostly because they have not had to personally deal with those particular issues. But they are willing to try, so there is that.

          • Gosala

            It seems to me that you are caught up in a notion that we all really want the same thing but we’re struggling against something.

            I put it to you that there is a large segment of the population that could care less about equality and that that segment is neither small nor historically negligible.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            Sad to say, you are probably correct.

          • shivaskeeper

            Of course it’s a mixed verdict. We don’t live in a perfect society, or a particularly just society, but we can’t stop working towards it.

            One of the reasons is when people get scared of whatever boogieman is going to get them, they tend to fall back on the old certainties.

          • Gosala

            Let me suggest that they are not scared of anything at all. There is no psychological displacement. There is no boogieman

            Could it just be possible that there are people who think that other people are unworthy, are lesser, are not really people.

            Because that’s what I think is happening.

            And liberals can’t or won’t comprehend it

          • shivaskeeper

            Of course there are. They see life as zero sum. They are the Ayn Rand disciples. They are the moral majority who use religion as a club and just want to be raptured so they can laugh at everyone else burning in hell. Among others. They not the majority.

            I would suggest to you that the majority are people who are scared of one thing or another, or a whole bunch or things all at once. They don’t recognize society today, they don’t understand their own kids. They don’t understand their neighbors. They don;t understand why they might be losing social or economic status. They are scared they won’t be able to give their kids a better life like their parents did or them. And they are scared by all of it. So they fall back on when things were better for them, more religion, everyone knew their place etc…

            But there is one thing the remember about fear. It doesn’t take much to turn fear into hate.

            I think you’re right that we have to engage them, but we also have to be able to speak their language when we do it. It’ll be the only to stop the fear.

          • Gosala

            We have to engage them.

            We have to engage them in their own terms.

            We cannot presume to know a priori what their “real” issues are.

          • shivaskeeper

            Can you clarify? Because it seems like you think we should engage the haters with hate?

          • Gosala

            I have been as clear and comprehensive as I know how to be.

            And I am mystified as to why you think I am advocating hatred.

          • Pinkham’s Law

            Lech Walesa. Never say never.

          • Gosala

            Change happens, thank God. But let’s not pretend that Solidarnosk achieved its victory by a simple drip, drip, drip.

            It took courage, sacrifice, martyrdom and a radical defiance of the standing order.

            It took a willingness to brave the unknown, to defy the Soviet Union. To risk violent repression.

            Solidarnosk did not tweak the system, did not seek to call it to its best self.

            It challenged the system, defied it, overturned it and destroyed it.

            The Moses you imagine would have Egypt accomodate the Israelites.

            The Moses that God sent removed Israel from egotistical from Egypt altogether.

          • Pinkham’s Law

            You seem ready to surrender. I refuse to admit defeat. This is nothing but a setback – a major one, to be sure, but not defeat. We WILL rebound!

          • WomanInTheResistance

            Pinky, have I mentioned recently how much I like and respect you?

          • Gosala

            Why do you say I am ready to surrender?

            I am not, but I do think that we must rethink the terms of the struggle.

            If we do not, we will continue to lose.

          • Pinkham’s Law

            Your comments here seem rather defeatist. In my interpretation, you appear to be quite willing to accept a subordinate, apologist role in the new administration. This would, I think, be a mistake. I would welcome your argument disabusing me of my interpretation.

          • Gosala

            I cannot for the life of me grasp why you think my comments are defeatist or why you would think I would be in the least apologetic for this awful incoming administration.

            I admit my comments have been steeped in a mythology that bit everyone can appreciate, that’s the way my mind works.

            Let me endeavour to explain.

            White Liberals believe we live in Jerusalem, or put it another way that we live in the Enlightenment.

            We tend to beleive that if only we could explain things properly, everyone would agree with us that everyone should have equal opportunity, that no one should be left behind.

            We believe, with Kant, that society should be constructed without favoritism of any kind.

            What I argue is that we do not live in that world.

            Black people especially, and brown people generally, live in Egypt, that is they live in a land that has never welcomed them.

            They live in a land that exploits them. In a land where they are expected to work hard and be obedient, but which will never reward them for that.

            It will never acknowledge their humanity.

            It will always blame them for whatever is wrong. Civil disorder? Blame the Blacks. Unemployment? Blame the Browns.

            What I am saying is that Trump and his band of deplorables are not marginal. They are mainstream.

            And that is what puts us in Babylon, in Exile.

            We must realize that our assumption that we need merely to persist as we have persisted is sufficient is false.

            If we continue to do what we have done, we will continue to reap what we have sown.

            I am far from defeatist or apologistic.

            But I do think we need to rethink.

      • shivaskeeper

        Exactly right. In order to form a more perfect union. It’s not perfect by a long way, but we should never stop working towards it.

        • WomanInTheResistance

          Damn right. We will never achieve perfection, but it’s a great goal. And I’ll be dammed if I’ll give up on my country.

          https://youtu.be/TRUjr8EVgBg

    • shivaskeeper

      The same thing that always happens when you take a hit. You either shake it off, get back up and do the job in front of you or you fold up and stay down.

      You do what you can, because you can’t do everything. Donate time, or money if you have it, be one of the helpers, call out the bullshit when you see it, or if you do nothing else then hold on to what you got and don’t give up..

      I plan on being on one of the helpers. Time will come around again to get things right.

      • Gosala

        There is a third possibility, which is to assess why you suffered this lose and make adjustments.

        This is what I am arguing for, that we need to adjust.

        Keep doing what you’ve done and you’ll keep getting what you’ve got.

        • shivaskeeper

          Clarification: for me that’s implied in getting back up.

          • Gosala

            That’s fine. Get up. Adjust. Then next time, win.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Meanwhile, from Hillary’s people:

    Because we had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology, we had not planned to exercise this option ourselves, but now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides. If Jill Stein follows through as she has promised and pursues recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan, we will take the same approach in those states as well. We do so fully aware that the number of votes separating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the closest of these states — Michigan — well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount. But regardless of the potential to change the outcome in any of the states, we feel it is important, on principle, to ensure our campaign is legally represented in any court proceedings and represented on the ground in order to monitor the recount process itself.

    The campaign is grateful to all those who have expended time and effort to investigate various claims of abnormalities and irregularities. While that effort has not, in our view, resulted in evidence of manipulation of results, now that a recount is underway, we believe we have an obligation to the more than 64 million Americans who cast ballots for Hillary Clinton to participate in ongoing proceedings to ensure that an accurate vote count will be reported

    Somehow, I don’t think we’ll ever really know. Fuck.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      Somehow, I think we already know. Thanks, Putin!

      • WomanInTheResistance

        Spassibo, Vlad!

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • WomanInTheResistance

      What the hell happened to my country?

      • Count Awesome

        It’s been overrun by white bigots.

      • Pinkham’s Law

        In a last, dying moment, the racists, bigots, and haters have managed to take control, and are prepared to burn the house down while they are inside. We’re in a bad position, but all we need to do is keep them from lighting a match.

        • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

          Farting, and then lighting a match.

          Wait. November 8th was the Fart Heard ‘Round the World.

      • bookish

        Glad Hilz is in, even if Stein and her compadre have been a disappointment. Time will tell if the Greens’ effort was legit, or a fundraising scam. In the meantime, Trumpy is annoyed and bitching, which is excellent. Keep that Type A personality rolling, old man. Don’t hold back.

        • SeekingNastyBarbie

          Trump has no conception of the dignity of his position and will be a massive embarrassment to our country.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            My only quibble is with your verb tense. He is a massive embarrassment to our country.

          • SeekingNastyBarbie

            Point taken. And it will get much, much worse.

      • Serai 1

        Apparently it wasn’t the country we thought it was.

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      Especially since the other two recounts will in all probability never take place. Look how fast they went from promising excess funds would go “for election integrity efforts and to promote systemic voting system reform.” to promising to keep the loot for the benefit of the Green Party.

      • Apple Scruff

        I’ve been getting emails about PA (because I signed up to volunteer) and they keep saying that every precinct needs 3 people to sign affidavits and get notarized for a recount to take place. Not 3 people per county. PER PRECINCT. And we may need to pony up $50 to $100 each when we take them to the election board.

        Yep, never going to happen unless Wisconsin turns out to have been tampered with.

        • WomanInTheResistance

          Is there anywhere those of us from other places can kick in?

          • Apple Scruff

            Not sure. I would check Jill Stein’s page.

  • Dazza

    I have the weirdest feeling that I am trapped in an (original) Star Trek episode, watching tribal barbarians recite “e plebnista”

    From wiki: Kirk finishes the sacred speech (the Preamble to the United States Constitution)
    and rebukes the Yangs for allowing the document to degrade. He declares
    that the words were not just for the Yangs, but for Kohms, as well,
    declaring that they “must apply to everyone or they mean nothing.”

    Make it so. Please.

    • Dazza

      OK, that was a bit dark. My stupid Burmese cat kept me up all night with her critically reviewed performance of “Aida”, complete with elephant stomping.

      Based on what I know of the Wonketteers, you will turn the US ship of state around to face into the storm, and ride this mother-$%#@ out.

      And I will have your back – as soon as I return from the gym. See you in a few hours, mates.

      • WomanInTheResistance

        Thanks for the vote of confidence. We need it.

        • Dazza

          No worries. Together into the fray. Secular humanists of the world unite, we have a world to save!

    • Serai 1

      Remember that in order to reach the world of the Federation, Earth had to go through the Eugenics Wars, which more or less devastated civilization. Considering the recent events, the ST timeline starts to sound less fantastical., doesn’t it?

    • Panika MCD

      well, if some GOPers get their way, the documents won’t survive that long. (I swear, I’ve heard garbage about having the William B. Travis letter at places like the Alamo all the time without giving a damn about what that can do to really old paper.)

      • Dazza

        OK. Tell you what I am gonna do. When my next paycheck comes, I will send some OZ bucks through the VISA machine to the ACLU. And I will do it a couple of times next year, too. They will make sure there are observers at demos, bail you out if you land in jail, and defend the US constitution -esp. the bill of rights. I will do the same for the NAACP defense fund to support BLM demonstrators in need.

        If support demos are organised here, I will join my union brothers and sisters and march in them, too. And if I see a racist asshole bullying someone on the train, I will support the victim and report the crime. So help me, FSM. Fuck those fascists (with votes, ‘cos ew, gross NO sexxytimes with Trumpian redcaps).

        • Panika MCD

          I’m close with one of the board members on the ACLU of TX. but donations are always greatly appreciated whether you’re putting it through the national organization or a state organization. our’s is currently fighting the fetal funerals thing (they’re trying to pass it as an agency rule, but the bill has also been filed…by Konni Burton, so it has less of a chance of passing) and they’re also putting together a class action suit regarding the voter intimidation that was rampant during the election. a friend of mine used to work for the Bexar Co. clerk and he said when he called to see how she was doing, she cried. also have the ED of our NAACP on call, but they’re not doing anything huge right now. we did just get a Texas African Americans Memorial unveiled at the Pink Dome and we got some good people out there to block the white supremacists from fucking up the event. mostly the socialists on that one, though because, obviously all the NAACP organizers wanted to be at the ceremony. definitely consider putting some money aside for those demos because if you can’t make it, it’s not a bad idea to see if their website has an easy way to donate a pizza. and it seems like right now bystander anonymity is on the down hill, let’s keep it that way.

          • Dazza

            All good ideas. Thanks.

  • Shanana Republic

    OT: So I just binge watched the whole Marvel Luke Cage series because I watched Jessica Jones after watching Darevil and I don’t know about anyone else but the amount of feminist + gay stuff I got from JJ went to the huge amount of Black history/culture I got off of Luke Cage that I wish had been a lot more explicit.

    Anyone else?

    • Shanana Republic

      I meant this Daredevil Marvel series for white dudes launched this feminist-oriented series and this AA-oriented series, both of which have these all-Other color things going on.

      Anyone?

      • WomanInTheResistance

        Honestly, not my thing. But I’m glad you enjoyed it.

        • Shanana Republic

          I didn’t exactly enjoy it. It was difficult in a lot of ways.

          • WomanInTheResistance

            Honestly, I’ll give it a miss. Right now, I only want the video equivalents of puppies and kitties.

          • Jonny On Maui

            I started JJ but had to put it down. Started DD but things came up. I’ve made it quite a way into Flash and haven’t seen a bit of Luke Cage. The Arrow will go on the list when I get time to pay attention.

            And given my very limited experience with these series the only thing I come away with is that the menu covers any type of involvement the viewer wants, from shallow to the darkest depths.

            Just my $0.02…

          • Shanana Republic

            I tend to need to watch chronologically. That’s why I watched DD, then JJ, then LC. And now back to JJ again where LC sent me. Don’t have much of a personal need to go watch DD again. JJ and LC speak to me more. Arrow, not so much.

            But that’s just me.

          • Jonny On Maui

            To each their own. As I have enough deepest dark in real life, I tend to take my entertainment shallow. :-)

          • Shanana Republic

            Are you calling my viewing choices shallow?

          • Jonny On Maui

            Heavens no! My choices Shan, mine, not yours!

  • Pinkham’s Law

    Not for Hillary, now, but for our entire damn country: FIGHT God dammit!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA
    Read the Fucking lyrics. It’s all about fighting back when you’re the underdog.

    Like a small boat
    On the ocean
    Sending big waves
    Into motion
    Like how a single word
    Can make a heart open
    I might only have one match
    But I can make an explosion
    And all those things I didn’t say
    Wrecking balls inside my brain
    I will scream them loud tonight
    Can you hear my voice this time?
    This is my fight song
    Take back my life song
    Prove I’m alright song
    My power’s turned on
    Starting right now I’ll be strong
    I’ll play my fight song
    And I don’t really care if nobody else believes
    ‘Cause I’ve still got a lot of fight left in me
    Losing friends and I’m chasing sleep
    Everybody’s worried about me
    In too deep
    Say I’m in too deep (in too deep)
    And it’s been two years I miss my home
    But there’s a fire burning in my bones
    Still believe
    Yeah, I still believe

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Interesting MSNBC auto-play video from AM Joy on why we should be paying more attention to voter suppression laws than recounting votes. Hmmm…

    • bookish

      Agreed.

    • Yr. Gma

      We can’t do both?

  • Duke

    Crab cakes are good but I do like stuffing.

    Mmmmm….. Stuffing.

    Think nice thoughts.

    • Anna Rompage

      Crab cake stuffed stuffing balls

      • Jonny On Maui

        I love you!

      • Duke

        Get behind me, Satan!

  • Nounverb911

    GANE OVER!
    The team from South Carolina won!

    • Pinkham’s Law

      Congratulations, from the other team from South Carolina.You played very, very well.

      • Nounverb911

        Thanks

  • Pinkham’s Law
    • Sister the Resister!

      Ok, but can we be mad at Stein and her minions JUST BECAUSE???? I need a FUCKING SCAPEGOAT!!! TRUMP-RAGE ALONE DOESN’T CUT IT!!!!!!

      • Pinkham’s Law

        Yes.

      • Anna Rompage

        Yes, I hate Jill Stein eleventy million times more than my friends who post fake news on facebook, and people who don’t know how to merge correctly on the freeway!

    • Serai 1
      • Pinkham’s Law

        I am very pleased to know that it went over well. I have to ask, how are you finding good tomatoes this late in the season?

        • Serai 1

          It’s Southern California, dude. Just a week and a half ago we had 90 degree temperatures. I went to the local farmer’s market and there were several people with good varieties. I’ll be making this again for the 4th next year, I think, when we’re really awash in tomatoes.

          • Pinkham’s Law

            I . hate . you .

          • Sister the Resister!

            You need a tiny, tomato-plant sized greenhouse for winter ‘maters!

          • Serai 1

            Don’t hate, honey. We’re really low on water, and 90 degrees in November isn’t the day in the park it might sound like (especially when you’ve no transportation other than the bus, you find it hard to walk, AND you’re suffering from hot flashes). *hug*

    • Juan de Payaso

      Agreed with the 45% part but if we accept that many Trump supporters voted for Trump for one legitimate reason* (stacking the SCOTUS in their favor) while the others simply voted for him because they thought he was cool on Celebrity Apprentice and wanted to see him “drain the swamp”, then I’m also going to keep blaming the 26% who voted for Trump.

      *Because if even if you voted for Trump to stack the SCOTUS, odds are you are probably one of those hypocritical dipshits who complains about having your taxes going towards supporting a fetus after it becomes a child.

      I blame Trump voters.

    • Panika MCD

      it’s about 42%, but I get the sentiment. I’m wondering if some of the voter intimidation and suppression efforts paid off, though. I mean, the TX numbers are totally off from how they’d been trending before Paxton’s letter. I’d look for some of those things because turnout should have been higher. long lines all throughout EV and then on E-Day? not so much.

      • shivaskeeper

        Seems to be right around the same percentage that never votes. It goes up and down a few points, but about half the electorate doesn’t bother to show up, or even vote by mail.

        • Panika MCD

          we usually get over 60% turnout for presidentials. and it was looking like my county was going to be at least 5 points above our 2008 records (just under 70%) and then we ended up being 5 points down from 2008 on E-Day. we also had a ridiculous number of provisional ballots given that 92.5% of the county is registered now.

          • shivaskeeper

            We national, or we local/county?

          • Panika MCD

            60% is registered voters across the country. locally, we ended up with our average at 65.9%. we were really looking forward to busting that 70% cap. but there’s something fishy going on with the provisional ballots also too.

        • Panika MCD

          there are sneaky laws that have made VBMs more difficult in a lot of places. for example: there’s usually a limit to the number of ballots someone can carry to the mailbox which tends to fuck the nursing homes.

  • Shanana Republic

    I’m back to gorging myself and watching Jessica Jones.

    Sorry friends. Not a good night.

    Hugs to you all.

    • yyyaz

      thanks, Shan, and backatcha.

    • Serai 1

      I’m binging Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, myself. I need a huge dose of that ridiculous multicolored 80’s yaya.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      I’m sorry that you are having a crappy night. (((Hugs)))

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson
    • Anna Rompage

      Sorry to hear you’re having a sucky evening!

      Big hugs to you my friend!

    • Jonny On Maui

      ::hugs::

    • Panika MCD

      do you need some puppy loves?

  • Pinkham’s Law

    Fuck y’all. Hymns for the rest of the night.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv68Xj2lJL8

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    I’m off to watch a comedy. Surely I’ve got something I haven’t already watched 20 times since the apocalypse, right?

    Good night, dear Wonkers. Stay strong and I’ll see you tomorrow!

    • Anna Rompage

      Have a lovely evening Cally!

    • Jonny On Maui

      Good night Callyson.

    • WomanInTheResistance

      Sleep well.

    • Panika MCD

      what are the rules for Ragnarok again?

  • Jeffocaster in the East

    OK OK OK enough is enough. Trump has decided on Day 1 that Americans will stop using Arabic numbers………

    • Well, accounting and engineering just got a whole lot harder

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        He suggested Roman Numerals…..

        • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

          Hey Donald, what number am I holding up?!

    • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

      If he bans algebra, he’ll win over a genertation…

      • Maybe he’s just looking for an accountant who’ll give him better answers

        • yyyaz

          Client to accountant he/she is interviewing: How much is two and two?
          Accountant looks around, turns off his phone: What do you want it to be?

          • BadWolfGirl

            Yes, exactly!

        • Dazza

          *snerk*

      • Shanana Republic

        Algebra turns me on.

        • Jonny On Maui

          Miss Smith?

          • Shanana Republic

            Maybe. Just don’t ask me to divide by zero.

        • shivaskeeper

          How about geometry?

      • Panika MCD

        if he bans algebra, I know a number of GOP state legislators who will probably punch him in the face…with votes?

    • shivaskeeper

      How fucked up is it that I can’t tell if this is snark or not?

      • Panika MCD

        I’m trying to figure that out as well. googles is no help, though it does appear that it originated with a spoof website saying this of Sarah Palin.

    • Yr. Gma

      He doesn’t even know what that means.

  • Ok…so i left my place at 6am yesterday. I purposefully took my work phone out of my purse and left it at home while i was away. Do you think i can fucking find the thing now? And i don’t have the ringer on for it. Because, I don’t when I am not on call. But I am on call at 7 tomorrow….fun problems!

  • Jeffocaster in the East

    So I am glad that Bei Bei is OK. At least a Chinese Panda is getting good health care.

    • yyyaz

      Too bad that they are among the tens of thousands of species who will go extinct long before humans.

  • WomanInTheResistance
    • Pinkham’s Law

      Thank you. *weeping*

      • WomanInTheResistance

        I used to sing this at church with my Granny. *also weeping*

    • bookish

      Wonderful. I can’t believe I’d never seen that.

  • boyblue122

    Someone at google maps is having fun messing around with the name of Drumpf tower

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyPYdAWVEAAa9mV.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyPYdAUUcAAijgC.jpg

    • WomanInTheResistance

      Bless them.

    • BadWolfGirl

      Fun!

    • Panika MCD

      Trump: why can’t Google give us equal times?!

      Google: we have a long list of things we can put in for your nugget. we are giving them all equal time.

  • Shanana Republic

    Be nice if it were all so easy all the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qw6Hon013E

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      Hey I thought you were packing it in !!! Any leftover chili?

  • Anna Rompage
  • Bub the Mad Zombie

    All you can do for now…

    https://youtu.be/TfvLZjofEXA

  • Nounverb911

    So either Maureen Dowd is still drunk or too hungover from the election to write her column this week, so she let her teabagger brother Kevin write it for her. (I heard she moved in with Peggy Noonan and they are driving Peggy’s manservant Manuel crazy going to the liquor store for vast quantities of gin).

    So for your viewing pleasure, this:

    Election Therapy From My Basket of Deplorables
    Maureen Dowd NOV. 26, 2016

    WASHINGTON — First I had to deal with the president-elect scolding.

    During his interview with The New York Times on Tuesday, Donald Trump chided me twice for being too tough on him.

    Sitting next to our publisher, Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Trump invited everyone around the table to call him if they saw anything “where you feel that I’m wrong.”

    “You can call me, Arthur can call me, I would love to hear,” he said. “The only one who can’t call me is Maureen. She treats me too rough.”

    Then I had to go home for Thanksgiving and deal with my family scolding me about the media misreading the country. I went cold turkey to eat hot turkey: no therapy dog, no weaving therapy, no yoga, no acupuncture, no meditation, no cry-in.

    The minute I saw my sister’s Trump champagne and a Cersei figurine as the centerpiece — my brother, Kevin, nicknamed Hillary “Cersei” during this year’s brutal game of thrones — I knew I wasn’t in a safe space.

    My little basket of deplorables, as I call my conservative family, gloated with Trump toasts galore, and Kevin presented me with his annual holiday column with an extra flourish.

    My colleague Paul Krugman tweeted Friday that “affluent, educated suburbanites” who voted for Trump are “fools.” What else is there to say, he asked.

    Well, here is what Kevin, an affluent, educated suburbanite, has to say in his column, titled an “Election Therapy Guide for Liberals”:

    Donald Trump pulled off one of the greatest political feats in modern history by defeating Hillary Clinton and the vaunted Clinton machine.

    The election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama: his fantasy world of political correctness, the politicization of the Justice Department and the I.R.S., an out-of-control E.P.A., his neutering of the military, his nonsupport of the police and his fixation on things like transgender bathrooms. Since he became president, his party has lost 63 House seats, 10 Senate seats and 14 governorships.

    The country had signaled strongly in the last two midterms that they were not happy. The Dems’ answer was to give them more of the same from a person they did not like or trust.

    Preaching — and pandering — with a message of inclusion, the Democrats have instead become a party where incivility and bad manners are taken for granted, rudeness is routine, religion is mocked and there is absolutely no respect for a differing opinion. This did not go down well in the Midwest, where Trump flipped three blue states and 44 electoral votes.

    The rudeness reached its peak when Vice President-elect Mike Pence was booed by attendees of “Hamilton” and then pompously lectured by the cast. This may play well with the New York theater crowd but is considered boorish and unacceptable by those of us taught to respect the office of the president and vice president, if not the occupants.

    Here is a short primer for the young protesters. If your preferred candidate loses, there is no need for mass hysteria, canceled midterms, safe spaces, crying rooms or group primal screams. You might understand this better if you had not received participation trophies, undeserved grades to protect your feelings or even if you had a proper understanding of civics. The Democrats are now crying that Hillary had more popular votes. That can be her participation trophy.

    If any of my sons had told me they were too distraught over a national election to take an exam, I would have brought them home the next day, fearful of the instruction they were receiving. Not one of the top 50 colleges mandate one semester of Western Civilization. Maybe they should rethink that.

    Mr. Trump received over 62 million votes, not all of them cast by homophobes, Islamaphobes, racists, sexists, misogynists or any other “ists.” I would caution Trump deniers that all of the crying and whining is not good preparation for the coming storm. The liberal media, both print and electronic, has lost all credibility. I am reasonably sure that none of the mainstream print media had stories prepared for a Trump victory. I watched the networks and cable stations in their midnight meltdown — embodied by Rachel Maddow explaining to viewers that they were not having a “terrible, terrible dream” and that they had not died and “gone to hell.”

    The media’s criticism of Trump’s high-level picks as “not diverse enough” or “too white and male” — a day before he named two women and offered a cabinet position to an African-American — magnified this fact.

    Here is a final word to my Democratic friends. The election is over. There will not be a do-over. So let me bid farewell to Al Sharpton, Ben Rhodes and the Clintons. Note to Cher, Barbra, Amy Schumer and Lena Dunham: Your plane is waiting. And to Jon Stewart, who talked about moving to another planet: Your spaceship is waiting. To Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z, Beyoncé and Katy Perry, thanks for the free concerts. And finally, to all the foreign countries that contributed to the Clinton Foundation, there will not be a payoff or a rebate.

    As Eddie Murphy so eloquently stated in the movie “48 Hrs.”: “There’s a new sheriff in town.” And he is going to be here for 1,461 days. Merry Christmas.

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      The new sherrif LOST the popular vote, you goddamned nitwit, and was only elected because of the anachronism of the Electoral College, and because you and your goddamn asshole colleagues played footsy with him for ratings points and newspaper sales. So go fuck yourself – KEVIN.

      • cat cafe

        Not to mention the documented interference and potential hacking by bad actors in Russia, as well as possible false vote counts. But yeah, go ahead KEVIN and side with the racist, bigoted, hateful, misogynist, ignorant fool.

    • BadWolfGirl

      My oh my, that’s quite the hateful thing.

      • Bub the Mad Zombie

        Disgusting, isn’t it? Apparently MoDo’s brother is an even more repugnant, ignorant, willfully ignorant creature than she is. Some choice bits:

        the Democrats have instead become a party where incivility and bad manners are taken for granted

        As opposed to the civility displayed by the Republicans, with “Trump that bitch” t-shirts, chants of “lock her up” at rallies and the RNC, calls for her to be executed by Trump supporters, the pussy-grabbing candidate – there’s civility for you! – himself referring to “2nd Amendment solutions” if she had won the election – not to mention the disgusting way the Obamas have been vilified by much of the party and their base over the last 8 years. Kevin’s memory is a tad selective, methinks.

        If any of my sons had told me they were too distraught over a national election to take an exam, I would have brought them home the next day, fearful of the instruction they were receiving.

        What if they had told you that they were considering armed insurrection against the government of the United States? Would you have pulled them out of school then, “fearful of the instruction they were receiving?” What do you suppose the Republicans and Donald Trump would be behaving like now if he had won the popular vote by over two million votes but lost in the electoral college, given his rhetoric on the campaign trail? Would we be seeing a peaceful transfer of power? Or something much darker and more violent? Think that over for a bit “Kevin” – I’m sure the answer will come to you.

        I could go on. But I’ve already spent too much time demolishing the ignorant, bigoted, irrational ravings of this fool. I’m sure he and sis are looking forward to their tax cuts, and that MoDo will be happy to toe Donnie’s line. Whores usually make out quite well in totalitarian states.

        • BadWolfGirl

          Such a lovely family. Rather like my siblings who have made me & the BadWolfKid outcasts.

          I honestly do not want to understand what makes these people so full of ugly hatred. We’ve all had challenges, disappointments, loss. I know for sure that my life has been more diificult than that of my siblings. Yet I am the hopeful one, the kind & caring one. The one who would rather lose doing the right thing than win doing what is wrong.

          One of my funniest memories is of going to vote with my Dad. We asked each other ‘did you do it?’ My Mom was incredulous that he & I voted for WJC. She asked us why & we both answered, ‘we wanted to vote for the other Clinton, but she wasn’t on the ticket!’

          Have a lovely evening, Bub :)

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            You have a lovely evening. I fear I will not. I am in a state of suppressed rage after reading that bilious garbage. It will take me some time to shake it.

          • BadWolfGirl

            Deep breaths, a swig of Irish & consider the source. Perhaps some Alannis Morisette? She has quite lovely ways of telling people to go fuck off.

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            Yeah, a stiff drink is indicated. And I think I’ll channel some of my aggression into a workout. With visions of things I’d like to “discuss” with Kevin dancing in my head…

    • BrianW

      Yeah, fuck that guy.

    • yyyaz

      How hateful can one overpriviliged asshole be? Lord it over us without once considering how this country LET you become the uninformed, presumably rich, bigot, misogynistic, fuckwad you appear to be. Fuck you.

    • The cons are ecstatic cause they defeated the opposing political machine. BFD! Things aren’t gonna go as swimmingly for them as they dream. Now that the machine has been defeated they’re gonna have to face the power behind the machine, the people. And if they think the tRump voters were angry just look deep into my fucking eyes!

      • shivaskeeper

        They’re also not going to be able to blame their failures on anyone else. If they have all the power and the mandate and whatever else they want to claim, they get all the failure when it happens.

        • Bub the Mad Zombie

          They ALWAYS blame someone else, and their fucking moron voters let them get away with it. Every. Single. Time.

          • shivaskeeper

            If they start the fuck things up legislatively now, they have no one to blame but their own side. And they need to be called on it with voices as loud as theirs. When the pain hits their constituents and not just “the other” they’ll start to wake up.

          • And that’s an important point cause the pain is gonna hit them. Hard.

          • Bub the Mad Zombie

            I sincerely hope you are both right. But Donnie and the Rethugs are utterly shameless in their mendacity, and their voters are ideologically, religiously and culturally blinkered, as well as being extraordinarily stupid. I fear I am not as optimistic. I can imagine Kellyanne and crew brazenly lying as they blithely explain away every disaster in a manner that would make Baghdad Bob blush, while their supporters swallow the con hook, line and sinker. The haven’t woken up yet, why should they figure out that they are being gulled all of a sudden?

            But I am a notorious cynic. I do hope you are both right…

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      Just as a final aside – I doubt very much that this disgusting asshole has any Democratic “friends.” Or many friends at all, come to that.

    • shivaskeeper

      SO it this some sort of parody? Get ready for the coming storm? Really? Just start screaming “Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the skull throne” and get it over with you over entitled prick.

    • freakishlystrong

      What a fucking asshole. And MoDo’s brother is a delusional prick as well.

  • Pinkham’s Law
    • WomanInTheResistance

      I like that you have declared this a hymn. Because it is.

  • BadWolfGirl

    I just woke up from a nap. Bronchitis & sinus infections suck. BadWolfKid is still awake but not for long. Then I’m heading back to bed.

    Each time I wake up it’s with the hope that this has been a nightmare & that Hillz is our President Elect. No such luck.

    I’m going to keep fighting for progress. For the day people finally realize that our differences are wonderful, that there is one race, the human race and that we’re all on the same team.

    The BWK & I love you all and we’re with you.

    As for crabcakes, I use saltines not breadcrumbs, Old Bay & cook ’em in butter not oil. Having said that, those crabcakes look like heaven on a plate ;)

  • bookish
  • Pinkham’s Law

    Imprinted forever on the Leftist hivemind as a hymn for resistance:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3eSNi__4w

    • Mon petit Sparrow! Liberte! Egalite! Fraternite! Viva La Resistance!

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      But today is not a day to say Viva La France…..right wing bastards….

      • Pinkham’s Law

        Is it not time to say. ” Liberte! Egalite! Fraternite! Viva La Resistance!
        I would submit that there is no better time.

        • yyyaz

          You’re both right. The RWNJs have co-opted Viva La France, but not Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            Make France Grape Again.

        • Dazza

          Vraiment!

    • WomanInTheResistance

      FWIW, the man who played Major Strasser in the movie was actually an anti-Nazi refugee. Just saying.

      • yyyaz

        And how many Merkins would be willing to do the same, I wonder. What will be the tipping point?

    • BadWolfGirl

      BWK & I listen to the DNC Fight Song daily. At first it made us sad. Now we use it as our rally cry to keep fighting for what is good, for kindness, for justice.

  • Jamoche
  • Anna Rompage
  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Binge watching CNN. Don’t judge me. They are reviewing the past few decades. The 80s seem to reflect this time. I lived then, in college and early career. And, CNN is doing a good job here reviewing my life and times.

    But now in retrospect, the people who voted for Trump voted for Reagan and gave money to teevee ministries and early QVC because well, you’re never too old to aspire to a life of glitz and glamor and what you were brought up to believe were the hallmarks of not just being wealthy but being worth something. Pull the lever in Vegas. Scratch the card. Vote for Reagan/Trump. Believe in your leaders who promise you riches. Order their CDs, their real estate sekrits, and believe in Jesus Christmas.

    I’m guessing many who voted Trump were brought up on 80s-today’s media infatuation with status won through the acquisition of wealth and the one-upmanship bought no matter the morality of the effort. If you can buy it, it is good. If the Duck Dynasty bayou bottom-feeders can achieve wealth and status through cable teevee, then so can all of us. There is always the hope that we will win the QVC bonanza of baubles worth millions or that our own ignorant assessments of major national issues do not smell of month-old dead turtle shells.

    • cynmac will never surrender

      Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous and MTV Cribs.

    • Anna Rompage

      “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
      John Steinbeck.

      • Mayor_Mayor_Mayor

        I am borrowing the fuck out of this quote. So apt

      • BoatOfVelociraptors

        Took me until the ripe old age of 20 to realize that was foolish. And I was an FTE at a fortune 500 by then.

      • btwbfdimho

        Actually there is socialism in America in every small-rich town in New England where people pay high taxes and get the best services in the world (kind of Norway) .

        • pstockholm

          You could also call the arrangements that the better paid part of the middle class has made for itself a kind of class-delimited Scandinavian welfare state – for professionals, middle and upper managers, unionized white-collar workers, small businessmen whose businesses are not subject to disruptions of globalism. Health care is usually pretty secure through employment, employment fairly secure (they will be surprised when AI makes them expendable as well), cultural factors tending towards security, especially when you factor in white privilege. Few people have much appetite for actual risk, merciless capitalism, or a system where their peers and family suffer from those. They do readily assume that their particular class is so virtuous as to deserve the kind of security they have loosely arranged for themselves, while poor or minorities aren’t.

    • BrianW

      In fairness though, some of us did learn better as we got older.

    • yyyaz

      Silly me. I thought that all the fucktards who voted for the male mannequin would be dead by now. Instead, we get their goddammed offspring who have no education, no intellect, no curiosity, no artfulness, no empathy and no clue what fork in the road they just forced the American Experiment to take. Fuck ’em all with a pine knot.

  • bookish
  • Nounverb911

    And in other news, Presidentissimo Fidel Castro is still dead.

    • Sheepshagger

      What’s the bet that he asked Che for a high five when Charon dropped him off?

    • The Wanderer

      One fellow online suggested that Fidel would find himself chained together with Che and Chavez. He seemed to imply that Castro would find this a bad thing.

  • Opalroneil

    Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !so271c:
    On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
    !so271c:
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  • btwbfdimho

    Someone mentioned tarragon: I just made:
    mushroom-tortellini + heavy cream + sliced smoked salmon + tarragon.
    Goodnight! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b324a5fbba174ecfca8c22a1f9463b214f38f6edf189e4c961c5c8b0cafac80.png

    • SeekingNastyBarbie

      That sounds yummy!

    • The look is elegant, yet versatile and sensible.

  • Dazza

    All by myself. All by myself
    Don’t wanna be all by myself anymore…

    *echoes *

    Sucks being on the other side of the world.

    Fuck it. I’ll go clean the fish tanks.

    • IOnlyLikeCats

      I just woke up so not quite alone.

      • Dazza

        Sorry to wake you. I’ll just hum – way over here.

        You go get yourself a coffee, or just roll over and go back to sleep.

        *Tiptoes away*

        • IOnlyLikeCats

          It’s not you. It’s me. My dreams were me writing the best stories I’ve ever seen and when I finished writing for the night I woke up.

        • Pissed de Résistance

          Where are you. I’m at about 49N 8E.

          • Dazza

            31.9505 S 115.8605 E

          • Pissed de Résistance

            Art Gallery of Western Australia? Google Earth is so cool!

          • Dazza

            I work a few hundred metres from the AGWA.

          • Dazza

            Perth, WA. Home of the Warriors (State Men’s Test Cricket team), and the Scorchers (Women’s Big Bash Cricket).

            Cricket – an excuse for throwing a sickie, to sit on the grass at the WACA and drink beer.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            Nice, that really is the other side of the world. I love cricket in England. It coincides nicely with the few nice months of good weather…

          • Dazza

            Define good. Right now that is temps in the thirties – and all the flies you can eat. :-)
            BTW, I saw my first locust yesterday. Ah, summer.

    • SeekingNastyBarbie

      I’m still awake here in the Mythical Time Zone. Not that I’d want to interrupt your worthy labor.

      • Dazza

        Finished the fish tanks.

        The corydoras say hello.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    Wake up! Now that I have your attention.

    Meanwhile, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. says Trump offered him the job of Secretary of Education, but he turned it down for personal reasons.

    Swear to the GSM, neither myself nor the Onion could make this shit up. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-goes-on-stein-recount-rager

    Jerry refused it because he knows he would never be confirmed, an annoying fact Herr Drumpf’s Alt-Reich have yet to fathom.

    • Sheepshagger

      Personal reasons? Like being a perpetually drunk paedophile apologist and woman hater?

      • Pissed de Résistance

        And those are his good traits.

    • mancityRed6

      “Falwell told The Associated Press on Saturday that Trump wanted a four- to six-year commitment, but Falwell says he couldn’t leave Liberty for more than two years.”
      Do you think I can let these morons run my grift mill for more than a couple of years? Hell, I’m making more money now than some fancy secretary ever could.
      Besides, I’m just looking for the invites to the white house, trump tower, or that marsh o’legos place.
      Franklin Graham, eat your heart out!

      • Franklin Graham feasts upon hearts and souls daily. It is what sustains him nutritionally and financially

    • The Wanderer

      “Never be confirmed?” I think you are underestimating the fecklessness and venality of the GOP majority in the Senate.

  • bookish

    Mahalia in her full power. His eye is on the sparrow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM_JRAPSwVM&sns=em

  • mancityRed6

    I had a dream the night before last.
    I was back at the house in Lawrence, with the ex. There were little slugs around, some of them on me.
    There was a tree we would put them in and they would become snails.
    I was in a good mood.
    I felt the same age as I do now (42 going on 13), but the mirror in the garden showed me as old, wrinkled and bald.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Maybe the dream means you’re having regrets that you didn’t stay together until you were old and bald?

      • mancityRed6

        I honestly don’t know, but I have my doubts about that explanation.
        For reasons.
        The dream I had last night, I had a fast turtle. Like, cat fast.
        At least in that dream I had a bed.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          I didn’t remember my dream from last night, but after I read your dream, I remembered mine. I dreamt I had a face lift and looked really thin and fabulous. I’m not sure how the face lift made me thin, but it did. Also, I had super fabulous cheekbones.

  • msanthropesmr

    I woke up to find out if I won the powerball. And then I remembered I didn’t play.

    • Nounverb911

      Well, now you can borrow Obama’s time machine, go back in time and buy a ticket with the winning numbers, problem solved.

    • Congratulations!

    • snark-lurker

      if true, a cruel thing to suffer

    • I am convinced “some day” I’ll win BIG with the lottery, despite the fact I never play.

      Is that some powerful optimism or what?

      • msanthropesmr

        I’d say that you have about the same chances.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Have you ever seen that video of that guy whose friends bought him a Powerball ticket with the previous week’s winning numbers, and then watched a previously recorded show where the winning numbers were announced? The guy and his dog are dancing around joyously. I have to say he took it pretty well when he found out it was just a cruel practical joke. He said “well at least I know what it feels like to win a lottery, which not a lot of people can say.”

      In the future of Republiland, we’ll probably compete for lotteries in health care in our old age.

      • msanthropesmr

        What? It will be like Logan’s run, if we’re lucky, and I’m 16 years over that limit.

      • NastyBossetti

        Pretty sure that’s an episode of the Fresh Prince.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Maybe, but the prank I saw was a guy and his dog getting super excited over thinking he’d won the lottery. My heart went out to him.

    • John Smith

      I’ve always said that I would rather have the dollar in my pocket than the million in my mind.

    • idiokratischtrumpenjugend

      If you didn’t play, then you didn’t lose. If you didn’t lose, then you won.

    • The Wanderer

      I wasn’t feeling stupid enough to pay my Idiot Tax yesterday.

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
    • Resistance Fighter Astraea
      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Shut up, Jill Stein. You helped elect Donald Trump, so seriously, just STFU already, and go away after the recount. Also, shut up about vaccines, you’re better than that!

        • mancityRed6

          don’t hold back now

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            That woman irks me.

          • mancityRed6

            she’s a spoiler
            no real policy grounded in reality, but yet she wants all the respect that’s afforded to even the “also rans”
            the last good third party candidate was Perot, and he had his faults, but he had a good platform.
            she didn’t and doesn’t and I’m worried that the recall is nothing but a scam

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Jill Stein is the Sarah Palin of the left.

          • Except willfully stupid, instead of just blisteringly ignorant

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            It’s shocking that someone as smart as Stein, could be so stupid.

          • starfanglednut

            It is a scam. She keeps raising the amount needed, and the Greens are keeping the leftover monies. Fuck her.

          • mancityRed6

            At this point, with nothing to win but taking away the Cheeto Benito’s win, I’m ready to disagree.
            Maybe she had a come to Jesus moment.
            Maybe she had a good long look in the mirror.
            The ever increasing monetary needs are indicative of the process, I was skeptical at first.
            We’ll see what she does with the leftovers.

          • I was willing to benefit of the doubt, but then going on about how dare Clinton be in recount when she conceeeeeded!!!!
            Yeah this is all about “me me me! Look at what I am doing! No Hillz, you can not share my spot light, fuck off!”

      • The Wanderer

        I just think Stein wants to see how many more votes she could siphon away from Clinton, just to point it out at every opportunity.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          “I’m the Ralph Nader of 2016!”

          Yes, and history will remember you kindly, Jill Stein.

      • Dr. Jill, you are A Idiot.

  • Nounverb911
    • mancityRed6

      Conway: “Who the hell gave him back his real phone!?!”

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      I love the logic that Hillary called to concede, therefore the election is over. Of course Jill is still an idiot, water still wet and sky still blue.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      He would have been such a gracious loser, too! Unlike that bitch Hillary, who didn’t even demand a recall, because she’s a weak and pathetic criminal.

      • Nounverb911

        RECOUNTGHAZI!

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          WITH EMAILS!

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Let’s investigate her 19 million times more! THIS time we shall find the smoking gun.

    • BadKitty904

      And now that we’re home again – fuck that guy. He’s not MY President.

      • mancityRed6

        don’t be as low as those republicans and tea partiers back in ’09
        he’s our dictator, but it’s up to all of us to refute him at every turn

        • BadKitty904

          EVERY. SINGLE. TURN.If his lips are moving, he’s lying.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        He’s not my president either, and yes, I want my change back.

        • BadKitty904

          I want the voter fraud accusations VERY publicly investigated. As Bub very correctly pointed out he other day, in re: the Recihthuglicans:

          Which is why they resort to blatantly anti-democratic tactics at every turn. They know they cannot win if every vote and voice is heard. It is just sickening that they are constantly allowed to get away with this crap.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Trump is now claiming he won the popular vote. I’m not kidding. He’s saying millions of people voted illegally, and that’s why he “lost” the popular vote.

          • BadKitty904

            And is the American media going to call Sniffles on this, his latest lie?

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Probably not. :-(

          • BadKitty904

            Sadly, a pretty safe bet. How very far this nation has fallen in the span of a few decades.

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            We’ve fallen really far even in the past 15 years.

          • BadKitty904

            Thanks, Reichpublicans!

  • Rick Hill

    To all those lovely trump supporters:
    http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aLMngyP_460s.jpg

    • mancityRed6

      fuck…
      now I’m itching to watch Lebowski again
      thanks fer nuthin

      • Why is that a bad thing? It’s not like you watched Spaceballs and feel the need to watch all 7 Star Wars, Alien and Aliens, and every other Mel Brooks movie.

        • mancityRed6

          don’t tempt me
          also, Sam Elliot is as much god as Alanis Morrisette was god in Dogma

          • Ooo, Dogma. Haven’t watched since my Rickman Memorial January film binge. Which i am actually still not done

          • mancityRed6

            I’m waiting for the Kevin Smith boxset.
            Hopefully it will come out before he dies.

          • So long as it does not include Cop Out. Also. I have a nice Blu ray of Dogma already.

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          Oh great. Now I have a Blazing Saddles need.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Don’t you see???? He has to drain the swamp by filling it with swamp monsters. He’s only thinking of all of us!

      • Rick Hill

        Money is the root of all evil. If he takes it away from us, he’s helping us become closer to gawd!!

  • BadKitty904
    • Glad to see you back!

      • BadKitty904

        As we’re our kitties! And it’s mighty nice to be home, too.

  • Rick Hill
    • mancityRed6

      no offense, but as I hear the dogs bark at the local (a block away) vet/boarding and I know that if I was back at the house in Lawrence at least one if not both of the pups would be asleep on the couch in the garage…
      damn you
      damn you to detroit

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      Dogs are the world’s best creation.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      It’s too early for tears, damn you.

  • Rick Hill

    Someone brought up a new slant on trump as preznit. Everything in the world with his name on it will become a target for terrism. Especially with his inflammatory remarks, the ones he only, oh so naively, intended to help him win the election, nothing more, that he’s made about how tough he will be on terrists.

  • Blacktop Cadence

    Watching Trump supporters defend nepotism and Russian hacks of our democratic institutions is, at least, somewhat amusing. >.>

    • Rick Hill

      They must be trying to come up with a bigger “You gotta be shtting me!!” than “We elected who to be preznit?”

    • mancityRed6

      I remember when ALL things Russian were bad
      re: all the action movies from the ’80s

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    And Trump is in the process of trademarking the term “America Idea” to slap all over his crappy hotel and hotel services industry. Started the process in April. Pretty prescient, given the Trump brand backlash. Now you won’t know to avoid his stupid hotels! Very long article, but it’s way near the end, past the eleventy million descriptions of his various international business conflicts. https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/status/802855945093206017

    • mancityRed6

      that’s easy, I don’t travel so…no, he’s not missing much from me
      but still, I won’t spend a dollar in his roach infested shitholes.

    • Nounverb911

      America Ferrara libelz?

    • The Wanderer

      Well! Now I know what to avoid.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Marco Rubio STILL trashing Obama, this time over Obama’s words of sympathy to Castro’s family. Poor, dumb, Marco, he doesn’t realize Obama’s leaving in a few short months. Give it up, Marco, the election is over, and you’re never going to be president, because the GOP is running Nikki Haley in 2024.

    • Unless Pence and Flynn have her lie to the UN like Cheney and Rumsfeld did to Colin Powell

      • Nounverb911

        Did Bush’s dog Barney ever find the WMD?

      • Those were not The Cakes We Like.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        She’s a lousy governor, but a good politician, so she’ll come out just fine.

    • mancityRed6

      the anti Castro sentiment is still strong. Give it a few years.

      • Pissed de Résistance

        Well, between him, the Soviets and us, we did get the prelude of WWIII.

        • Objection!
          It is very likely that he would have never turned to the Soviets if not for our insanely harsh sanctions and iron grip on almost everyone in the world, except for the Soviets.
          Now his crazy assed kill and jail everyone who says boo thing, that is all on him

    • The Wanderer

      Marco’s got no use for the Cuban ex-pat community except as a cheap source of votes. When he needs a bit of political agitprop, he pokes them with Castro, and they obligingly respond.

  • Rick Hill
    • mancityRed6

      My first ex father in law was Iraqi born.
      I was there when the news showed Saddam shaking hands right before the invasion.
      “That’s not Saddam,” he said.
      “Saddam would never stick his hand out first.”
      Considering that he was on a shitlist, I tend to agree.
      His passport expired and he inquired about a new one. He was told to go to the airport in London to do so. He knew better. That he would be bundled off and escorted away to be tortured and killed.
      When they left, they only told one person. The house was torn to pieces afterwards. Just to see where they went.
      I kinda have a history on this.

      • bookish

        We need to believe the people who have lived it. Our turn is coming.

    • The Wanderer

      “He was a son of a bitch, but he was Our son of a bitch.”

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    F1 news, if anyone cares. Nico Rosberg is the 2016 champ. Hamilton wins the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

    • The Wanderer

      Huzzah!

    • Nounverb911

      The interesting thing to watch will be Nico and Lewis in the podium green room…..

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        Oh most definitely. No talking? Stiff congratulations? Whispered threats?

        Kind of over Mercedes. Again. Some more. Just sayin’.

      • The Wanderer

        I’m seeing the ‘homoerotic tensions in the locker room scene’ from Top Gun.

    • Pissed de Résistance

      Good for Nico, but I wish Vettel would get a decent ride again some year.

    • Can we get a Spoiler Alert in the future!

      Good on Nico, he deserved the title.

      Remember folks, real race car’s don’t have fenders.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        Oops. Sorry. I’ll go sit in the corner and think about what I’ve done.

        • my bad for not playing the bloody dvr recording in time!

          • Nounverb911

            NBC sports will rebroadcast later….

      • mancityRed6

        real race cars do more than just a left turn
        looking at you “nascar”

        • Pissed de Résistance

          Real race cars get 800hp out of a 2.5 liter engine.

    • Nounverb911

      SPOILER ALERT!

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        Thanks for that. I’ll learn the coding. That’s a new one for me.

        • Nounverb911
          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Ah ha! Thanks again!

    • Nounverb911
  • Rick Hill

    RIP Ron Glass. Never forget him in Barney Miller. He was in some Fire bug show or something too…
    http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/583a4b101a00002500cc9dfb.jpeg

    • The Wanderer

      Rest in peace.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      That’s what really bites for me. We’ll never get the prequel Firefly story on Book’s origin.

      • MizzMazz

        There’s the comic books, if you are into that sort of thing. I’ve accepted that we’re not gonna get any more Firefly, not even the Keep Flying game. That looks like it’s gone too.

    • mancityRed6

      my dad watched Barney Miller.
      I’m glad he did

    • Penny Dreadful

      I think it was Lightning Bug. He played a nun.

      In seriousness: A lovely man, he will be missed. Also: SCREW ALL YOU GUYS WHO ARE BAILING OUT SOME OF US ARE STUCK HERE.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    LOL – CNN asking Giuliani why Trump isn’t “locking her up.” Giuliani’s saying “well, you have to put these things behind you, but I’d support him if he reopens her investigation.” Sure, Giuliani, what are we investigating again? The woman had an email server in her home, who gives a shit, other than mouth breathers? Let’s investigate your pay to play schemes for a while.

    Bakari Sellars “the main people who were chanting ‘lock her up’ were Chris Christie and Mike Flynn. Mike Flynn was running illegal internet connections when he was in office. Let’s lock THEM up!”

  • Pinks, I gotta say, I generally do not dig seafoods. I can handle shrimp sometimes, and crab legs with a metric shit ton of butter but otherwise, meh.
    However, this looks and sounds as if it is delisioso and now I know what I am making for dinner tonight XD

  • Nounverb911
    • Vagenda and Tiara

      He really is just a fucking asshole. I wonder if his idiot supporters will notice he’s not going to fulfill ANY of his campaign promises? The only thing he’s going to do is cut taxes, and deregulate banks and oil companies. I’m sure that will work out just great for the rust belt.

      • mancityRed6

        those idiots voted Reagan twice, what makes you think this will be any different?

        • Pissed de Résistance

          I am hoping that he’s obviously worse than W within a year or two. That might get some Democrats motivated.

          • mancityRed6

            whips and chains couldn’t get the Democrats motivated
            It’s like herding cats

          • nightmoth

            My name is still on their “committee” because they need a certain number of names to claim their existence, but I broke with the local Dems several years ago because they were so fucking clueless. So yesterday I ran into one who is now “motivated,” and she asked me to join their newest committee.
            Unfortunately, she explained the Trump election with the use of phrases which have become trigger points for me: i.e., “economic anxiety” and “nobody to vote for” and I unloaded on her like a gravel dump truck on a dirt road. And I don’t feel bad about either, even though my sweet husband tried to guilt trip me by saying, “you KNOW she never had much sense.”

          • mancityRed6

            “economic anxiety” my ass
            the dems got the country out of the ditch and now the whole country says, well, let’s just see how this other party can drive.
            fuck them.
            we’ll be in trouble again and they’ll all come crawling back

          • Penny Dreadful

            We’re in a similar situation here. There are some really good, new people running for office and they are getting no support from the local Dems. I am tempted to get involved, but I can’t get past what truly awful people are running our local office. Perhaps if I could gather enough troops we could infiltrate from within.

            I’d probably be incompetent, but no more than anyone who’s there now.

          • nightmoth

            Go for it! I think what I’m going to do is organize a branch of Democratic Women (or whatever the group name is) because one of the problems here is a couple of retired white male professors who think they know it all. They don’t listen to anybody else, especially women.

          • Sure. Like it did in 2004.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            Well, the alternative is to just admit that we are well and truly fucked.

          • That goes without saying XD The real question at this point is what do we rise from the ashes of the mess?

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Reagan at least had a bit of charm. Don the Con has zero charm, and isn’t going to fulfill ANY of his campaign promises, other than to cut taxes. Don’t get me wrong, I believe most of the idiots will vote for him again, no matter how badly he ass rapes them.

      • He is gonna do all that and tell them it is all the media’s fault he did not do his other things for them.

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          My money is on “it’s all Obama’s fault. I wanted to build that wall, lock Hillary up, drain the swamp, deport 11 million people, create a Muslim registry, etc…, but Obama just wouldn’t let me. Obama’s a weak, feckless guy who leads from behind while wearing mom jeans, but he stopped me from doing anything because he’s a monstrous dictator.” Luckily, GOP voters are so stupid, they never notice none of that makes any sense.

      • Pissed de Résistance

        As close as I can figure it, around 1% of America is going to love the guy.

        • Nounverb911
          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Aaaaaand depressed again. Sigh…

          • Just remember, he saved us from a woman that had emails and gave speeches to wall street.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          As long as he abuses some Muslims and immigrants somewhere along the way, the Goober Nation could care less if they take it in the ass economically.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            Their dirt roads are going to be world class dirt roads.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    New Yorkers must LOVE paying for Trump’s personal security in NYC. Business is also dropping off at all the surrounding stores. Jesus, I’d love to hear the outrage from Fox News if Obama single handedly shut down a major artery in NYC because he didn’t feel like living in the White House.

    A friend of mine who lives in NYC thinks that Trump’s kid has special needs and Trump is not moving him to Washington because all of his tutors are in NYC. Funny, that his special needs child didn’t stop Trump from making fun of a disabled reporter. Where’s the outrage, Fox News?

  • Pissed de Résistance

    Ahhh, Thanksgiving is safely over and I’m looking forward to a white Christmas!

    http://americanpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/teatard-bowling-league.jpg

    • I used to love that song as a child, kid beating Bing and all. Then as I grewed up and lived in very cold places I began to get a giggle out of it because it snowed from like october to may so ha ha ha, dreaming sure.
      Now that I am in Virginny and climate change is here to stay, I dread this song coming on, cause snow here means a paralyzing storm, maybe two per season tops.
      Your take however gives me one more reason to cringe when it comes on the radio.

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        And ironically written by a Jew.

      • Pissed de Résistance

        The last winter I spent in the mountains in Colorado, it snowed every day from November until March. Every. Fucking. Day.

        So, yeah, I can sorta do without it too.

      • Jeffocaster in the East

        Climate change is just your imagination, just like Santa Claus.

    • mancityRed6

      where did you get my family photo?

      • Pissed de Résistance

        Uhhh, bro?

        • mancityRed6

          Daniels, Williams, Gentle, or Wyckoff?

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Which one is you?

        • mancityRed6

          I’m taking the picture

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      That picture certainly fills me with white pride.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Somebody cut ’em off from the buffet at Cracker Barrel?

    • Bill D. Burger

      “Make Christmas White Again”

      https://i.imgflip.com/1390ne.jpg

    • Bill D. Burger
      • Pissed de Résistance

        I will have to down vote you for this. Nothing personal.

      • mancityRed6

        that’s not real, Trump can’t carry a tune in a bucket

    • tehbaddr

      Holy WTF Hell! None of them look particularly human, but I think I’ve seen the one in front before.
      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yi3ZBHEy8jc/TBuUtpCa1QI/AAAAAAAADX4/w3Tl16KQVQY/s1600/bill-oberst-jr-vampire-nazi.jpg

      • Pissed de Résistance

        Good likeness.

    • mancityRed6

      who is gonna be first against the wall?
      we are!
      (as in, those in the picture)

    • bookish

      Devolution.

  • Señor Skwerl!
    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Oh. MY. [*blink blink*]

    • mancityRed6

      http://www.whereibuyit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Red-long-underwear-image.jpg
      I’ve still got mine when I was working outside and needed it, or when I was in the house with a bad central heating.
      I just don’t look as good as this.

      • mmm union suits are smexy

        • mancityRed6

          don’t tease me now
          I’m missing a button in front, but I’m used to wearing this all the time at the old house.
          Now I’m in a better place, temp wise.

          • ooo undid buttons up front? EVEN MOAR SMEXY
            True story: I bought hubs some flannel pants for sleeping, once he crested 50 and started bitchin about how cold it was all the time. I wanted to get him a union suit but he very flatly told me NO.
            He wears thermals when it is cold during work hours tho. Not as sexy, but they do keep him warm

          • mancityRed6

            I rocked the union suit because the ass crack didn’t get in the way when I was bent over.

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            In the cold weather, my beloved wears a cap to bed. An actual nightcap.

            You’d think that would be weird, but it’s freaking adorable.

        • nightmoth

          I flat wore out my red union suit with the button flap and have replaced it with one of those one piece sack things.

    • Pissed de Résistance

      You first.

      And may I add, Feliz Navidad.

    • mancityRed6

      no feets, we got problems

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      OK, I see your winter theme and raise you a Hanuka PJs including matching dog PJs……..HA!

      (this is my hound dog that passed away two days ago….sniff) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cda59a9302b833737708101922692dde366264c3e59e8974006566213cc54038.jpg

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        Awww. I’m sorry for your loss. Glad you have a cool PJ memory with him.

      • mancityRed6

        it never gets any easier, but the memories remain

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Ohhh, sorry to hear that. The worst thing ever.

      • nightmoth

        I’m sorry, Jeffo. I really am. Particularly bad time to lose a beloved dog. Buck up, and hang in there.

      • sgt. jmk of the résistance

        Oh I’m so sorry…

        • Pissed de Résistance

          Me too. My sister is a serious dog person, so I get it.

      • JEFF!!!!! SO CUTE!!!!!
        Why can I not get my hubby to pose in matching PJs with my cat? srsly. Would it hurt him to let me have one picture?

      • Bmaccnm

        I understand completely. This morning I shed a tear for Lainie, the best dog who ever lived, rescued from the Multnomah County Animal Shelter 10 years ago and passed to doggie heaven 2 years ago. Thank you, Lainie, for rescuing me.

      • bookish

        Been thinking of you and your angel. I miss mine every day.

      • SnarkON

        I’m really sorry about your sweet doggie. But OMG WTF WITH THE FOOTIE PAJAMAS???

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Yeah, I’ma order up one of these and destroy what little chance I have left of ever having a girlfriend. Winning!

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Spent a fairly Trump-less several days. I’m beginning to see the benefits of sticking my head under my pillow and pretending all this shit isn’t really happening.

    • Pissed de Résistance

      1,000,000 ostriches can’t be wrong.

    • nightmoth

      Same here. Avoided family T-Day, but had to go to bank Friday & saw the new Essence magazine on the wait-to-see-banker table and stole it. Beautiful cover photo of the Obamas plus 12 pages of interior photos. Got the magazine home & started crying and cursing all over again.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Yeah, I have those trigger moments too…where it’s the night of Tues., Nov. 8 all over again and life has lost all meaning.

      • bookish

        Saw the Spanish-language Hola! magazine at the supermarket. Nice photo shoot of dastardly Hilz as abuelita. Very sweet.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Ted Cruz talking about what a brutal dictator Castro was. Interesting that a guy so horrified by dictators, would be actively involved in getting one elected to lead the USA. Particularly a guy that was supported by Vlad Putin.

    Now Cruz is blaming Obama for making Rafael Castro stronger. Trump will totally fix Obama’s weak foreign policy. Martha Raddatz asks Cruz (disbelievingly) “so you think the embargo was working?”

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    LOL, Martha Raddatz pointing out to Cruz that Trump has walked back every single promise he made to the drooling base. Cruz says that there will be pitchforks if Republicans don’t deliver. Oh, how I can only hope that the idiots notice they’re getting screwed again.

    Martha Raddatz pounds Cruz “so do you still think Trump’s a pathological liar?”
    Cruz: “I’m not going to relitigate the past.”

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      These persecuted assholes and their pitchforks. They probably threaten the fucking butcher at the supermarket when he’s out of ground beef.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        I like how Trump is going to relieve their economic anxiety…by cutting taxes on the wealthy, deregulating the banks and oil companies, and getting rid of our national parks. Yup, that’ll fix the full employment that the middle class is currently enjoying.

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          As long as he puts a boot on the necks of Muslims and immigrants, they won’t give a tinker’s damn about their wallets.

          • Blacktop Cadence

            Bingo. There won’t be a word from his fanbase over him breaking any promises.

            That’s not what this was actually about.

          • bookish

            It was about hate and fear. As long as daddy brings the hate and fear, it’s all good.

    • SnarkON

      Then he added, “If there’s one thing our country doesn’t need more of, it’s goose diarrhea.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75wCTMZoSY

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    I was soooooo looking forward to not seeing Kellyanne Conway’s dumb mug ever again after the election. Thanks, Obama!

    • Pissed de Résistance

      Really, look up the definition of “hag.”

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        She’s going out of her way to trash Romney. I suspect that Trump just wanted to rub Romney’s nose in the fact that Trump won. I can’t believe Romney was stupid enough to fall for Trump’s childish game.

        • Blacktop Cadence

          Well, you know, he actually isn’t very bright.

          • Bmaccnm

            Which isn’t very bright? R-money or Drumpph?

          • Bozilingus

            AOT,K

      • SnarkON

        OK I hate to be the resident humorless feminist, and Conway is horrible, but can we not make comments on her appearance, please? Especially in regard to her age?

        • Pissed de Résistance

          It’s not her appearance I was talking about. However,
          Merriam-Webster
          hag. 1 : an ugly, slatternly, or evil-looking old woman.

          • SnarkON

            Exactly. It’s unpleasant seeing other women my age described as hags, crones, etc. She is really horrible enough without going into her looks.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            1. I do believe your face reflects your insides to some degree. Those frown lines didn’t grow themselves.
            2. Have we not spent the last six months talking about how stupid Donald looks? Do females deserve different treatment?
            3. It’s a cheap shot, I’ll admit that. Sorry to offend.

          • SnarkON

            OK here’s my rule of thumb for you to take or leave, of course. It’s one thing to criticize things about people’s appearances that they can control. Trump’s hair and horrible spray tan fall into that category. Not acceptable to criticize things people can’t control. Age-related haggardness is one of those, and so is weight to a great extent. Just so you know I think it’s awful to criticize Chris Christie’s weight.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            I don’t care. Be as nice to them as you want, but they will still buttfuck you if they get the slightest chance, and they won’t be any nicer about it because you refrained from calling them fat or ugly.

          • SnarkON

            It is not about the message you send *them*. It is the message you send regular people who are overweight, or who look their age. Come on–you’re a liberal. Surely you get that picking on people for physical attributes they can’t control is the exact same thing as picking on someone for their skin color or sexual orientation?

          • Pissed de Résistance

            1. This site (which I quite like normally) is all “We’ll meet them at the ramparts and run them through with a sharpened pike if they come over the top!” Except when it’s “Oh my, let’s not comment on their looks.”
            2. As I stated before, those frown lines didn’t grow themselves. Neither did Chris Christie’s rotundity. Personal responsibility and all that…
            3. These are people who are intent on destroying the country that I worked for 40 years studying, defending and protecting. With the exception of Donald’s wife, they are nearly all fugly as well. Perhaps that’s not as coincidental as you might imagine.
            4. Your admonition is, of course, quite correct. I, of course, am beyond caring.

  • Vagenda and Tiara

    Raddatz asking Kellyanne if Trump asked the FBI to “stand down” on “locking her up.” Now Raddatz asking Kellyanne if Trump was out of line making public statements about Clinton. Kellyanne “he’s soon to be leader of the free world, he can do whatever he wants.” She goes on to say how magnanimous Trump is by not throwing Clinton in jail, and how Clinton repays his kindness by demanding a recount. OMFG, now she’s asking why Clinton can’t just accept the election results. My head is now exploding from the irony.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      That statement is chilling in-and-of-itself. These people think they elected a king. I knew they had dreams of empire, but they’re openly flaunting it now.

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        It sent a chill down my spine.

        • mancityRed6

          it made me want to buy a gun
          go figure

          • mancityRed6

            disqus shows this as “gungo figure” and I’m wondering about all the anime I’m missing

      • Land Shark

        US Cash on hand? ✔︎
        US Passports updated? ✔︎
        Friends with Spare Rooms in Friendly Countries? ✔︎

        • Blacktop Cadence

          God, I wish I could update my gender marker on my passport before January 20th.

          Assuming I even had a passport. It’s going to be impossible come the Trump-o administration.

      • They WANTED a king.

    • Jeffocaster in the East

      Uh, leader of the “free” world and can do whatever he wants….stoooopid.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      He “can do whatever he WANTS?!!!11!!!?” C’mon brain. Override mode. Rainbows. Unicorns. Kittens.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      I hope to god, if there’s ever even ONE more investigation of Clinton, she sues for malicious prosecution. Good lord, this is insane. They now want her to THANK them for not investigating her for the gazillionth time?

      • Pissed de Résistance

        They’ll have the Justice Department and the SC as well. Sue away…

    • tehbaddr

      Yes, we should all thank Der Trumpenfuhrer for not locking us up!

      • Vagenda and Tiara

        Ironic that the people who were so terrified of the dictator Obama, have no problem with dictator Trump.

        • tehbaddr

          Because he’s not a Brown Dictator, he’s one of them.

        • Well, Trump is not Black

        • Blacktop Cadence

          I think we’re seeing all the coded bullshit drop, honestly. These people are authoritarian, and they want one of their own to be God-King.

          • mancityRed6

            Bush 1 was one of the only sitting vice presidents to win a presidential election.
            They let one party put the country in the ditch, and as soon as the other party gets it out, they forget everything because goldfish have a longer memory, and they put the other party in control again.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            As you said below, it was always about getting rid of that shiftless fucking n****r in the White House and taking “their” country back. They could give a fuck about policy or what actually happens.

          • sgt. jmk of the résistance

            Well, some of it was not letting that “hag” escape the kitchen, also too.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Of course. Racism AND misogyny. Everybody’s a winner!

    • Daisy

      I hope to God that the recount shows Clinton won. Just so I can rub this kind of nonsense about accepting election results in.

  • Land Shark

    House and Senate Republicans also angrily denounced the Obama deficits even though they were falling dramatically. In dollar terms, the deficit dropped from $1.4 trillion in fiscal 2009 to $438 billion in fiscal 2015. It fell even more as a percent of GDP, from 9.8% in 2009 to 2.5% in 2015.

    In other words, for the past 8 years, congressional Republicans have acted as if being critical of the federal budget deficit was a God-given, inalienable right granted to them in perpetuity and guaranteed by one or more amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

    Republicans Expose Themselves As Deficit Frauds

    • Land Shark

      All that changed on November 8 when Donald Trump was elected. Unless U.S. GDP grows at a pace no one has dared to fantasize about since Ronald Reagan included his “rosy economic scenario” in his first budget, the annual federal deficit from the Trump taxing and spending plans could be $1 trillion or more for at least each of the next four years, and probably beyond. The total increase in the national debt during this period will likely be about the same as was recorded during Obama’s first term in office when the GOP was prophesying the fiscal apocalypse.

      • The Wanderer

        And I’ll take great delight in telling all the Trumpanzees who moan about the debt and the deficit, “Hey – you own that, because you voted for that asshole.”

        • Pissed de Résistance

          And they will say “you are incorrect.”

          100% of them will look you in the eye and say that.

          That’s what we are fighting against.

          • mancityRed6

            I’m a lover, not a fighter
            but let them come with their complaints.
            Who did you vote for?
            Yeah, you own this.
            Bring it.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      They never give a fuck about deficits, small government, foreign policy or anything else under a Republican president.

      • Pissed de Résistance

        ‘bortion, an freeeeeedom.

        • mancityRed6

          guns, gods, and gays

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I wonder if militia membership has gone back down now that their fellow Brownshirts actually won the election.

    • Duke

      Yep. They all know that running a deficit and spending the money broadly will put people to work and boost the economy.

      They’re going to do it to goose a decent economy and will end up pumping profits into the construction industry and inflation into the economy.

      • mancityRed6

        you say “profits” like it’s gonna happen

    • bookish

      What is this Obama hellscape of which you speak?

  • tehbaddr

    Would it be a really bad thing to give every open Trump supporter you meet the Sieg Heil?

  • Duke

    What’s for dinner?

    Is it Cuban food? Will someone be eating a taco bowl with a fried banana?

    • tehbaddr

      Plantanos, please!

  • So…anyone have anything to cheer me up with whilst i am enroute to work?

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    Oh FFS. Jill has now shaken $6M out of our collective piggy banks? If only that money were fighting for a certain Senate seat in LA…or even giving sparkly new pipes to Detroit. Virtually anything other than what it’s doing.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      Or the three recounts a small fraction were going to pay for.

    • SeekingNastyBarbie

      I still haven’t figured out what her point is, or even if she has a cogent point.

  • Bozilingus
    • Well, there were two in the last article. Isolated incidents. Nothing to do with the guns themselves

    • the comments on that one are good. as well as the article itself

      • Bozilingus

        I like DailyKos for informative articles (less snark is used there), but I enjoy Wonkette’s non-comments and snarky, informative articles.

        • Pissed de Résistance

          I hate the Kos commenters. Their hearts are in the right place, but what a bunch of pricks.

          • Bozilingus

            As with any group, some are good and some are bad.

          • Pissed de Résistance

            OH FUCK YOU!

            Upps, sorry, I resorted to Kosplay.

  • TJ Barke

    New thread up, that’s actually an old thread. If anyone cares.

    • SeekingNastyBarbie

      Thanks! (picks up skirt and runs).

  • I am reading the closed captions of Van Jones on CTV news here. I like Van.

  • Pissed de Résistance

    Calling All Wonketeers. New thread at: http://wonkette.com/569510/our-man-in-havana

    Seriously infested with right wing scum.

    • SeekingNastyBarbie

      Just note that they are old comments from a previous posting of the article.

      • Pissed de Résistance

        Well, that takes all the fun out of it.

        • SeekingNastyBarbie

          Sorry. But there is always hope for a new crop of RWNJs to enlighten us!

        • Sister the Resister!

          You can use it for practice targets, though!

          • SnarkON

            Those are surveyors’ marks.

  • shaar dula

    completely OT, check out this comparative camera review in some slavic language.
    hillarious riot for hillarity this is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQUF4b2ZTeg

    watch out for cropping test. i think he said, who knows who’s behind the window sipping coffee in lingerie. it could be hollywood damsel liv tyler, our own damsel **niak or even a dude. so if you are planning to work for tabloids forget about it. rofl…

    • shaar dula

      there’s even an evangelist for crying out loud.

    • SnarkON

      Is it Melania Trump?

  • SnarkON

    Please tell me you used canned crab.

    • JustDon’tSayDittos

      That came up yesterday. It was in fact canned crab. Which led to the inevitable canned clam – you monster – yadda yadda. Scroll down about 26 hours and you’ll see it. We thought we were funny at the time…

      • SnarkON

        Dammit. I’m a day late and a dollar short, as usual. P.S. YOU MONSTER.

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  • Carpe Vagenda

    https://mobile.twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/803137353644654592
    “On Bullshit and the Oath of Office: The ‘LOL Nothing Matters’ Presidency,” a very good essay from @qjurecic. https://t.co/DJVVDLaqvK

  • Historicat

    This is all just so wrong – there’s no Old Bay in the recipe and you’re not patting the crab cakes by hand.

    On the other hand, they are crab cakes, so I’ll give you partial credit.

  • Debra Dassow

    This is the best crab cake recipe I have ever made, and I have tried many. Thanks for the tip.

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