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  • onedollarjuana

    We can’t blame Stein and Johnson. There will always be third-party candidates and people who will vote for them. What we need is candidates who are clearly superior AND don’t have a van-load of baggage, deserved or undeserved.

    • Nope, but I’ll blame Scarborough for propping Trump up as a valid human being for over a year and a half.

      • onedollarjuana

        For that we can blame Reagan for starting the process of eliminating the Fairness Doctrine, and Bill Clinton for driving the stake through the heart of fair media.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      I’m going to blame the antiquated electoral college in large part. AGAIN. It needs to be taken out back and mercifully put out of our misery.

      • atheist

        I think the mouth breathing knuckle draggers and religious fanatics that voted for him deserve some credit

        • Whale Chowder

          “Weak candidate?” Fuck, I’m seeing that all over and to that I reply: “compared to the other guy she was running against she was fucking Wonder Woman and Supergirl all wrapped together.” Weak candidate, fuck that.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          Weak candidate? I can’t think of a stronger female candidate, Warren included. And yeah that 45% women voting for Trump has me fucking gobsmacked. He really did have huge numbers of unspeaking voters on his side. Nice job, ladies!

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      Sanders supporters:

      Polls showed that many young supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
      voted for Gary Johnson, probably because they never read his
      platform (abolish the minimum wage law, privatize Social Security, get
      the government out of the healthcare business, etc.).
      If all the Stein voters and a quarter of Gary Johnson’s supporters had
      voted for Clinton, she would have carried Pennsylvania and the score
      would have been Clinton 278 and Trump 260, leading to President Clinton.
      If 27% of Johnson’s supporters, rather than 25%, had voted for Clinton,
      that would have
      flipped Florida as well, leading to Clinton 307 and Trump 231.

      • JaaaaaCeeeee

        Stein voters in Florida told exit pollsters that they would not have voted if she were not on the ballot, Johnson saved a couple of states for Clinton, and the actual problem was the huge drop off of Obama voters for Clinton.

        Blame shifting to third party voters works no better than blaming the voters in 2014.

    • Oblios_Cap

      I blame the 49% of the electorate that sat on their asses and didn’t vote.

      • Marion in Savannah

        In Chatham County (where I live) we went for Hillary, and the turnout was 78.2%.

        • chortlingdingo

          We only had a 57% turnout in Bexar County (Texas), but we went for Hillary too, and got a few more Dems in the State and local offices.

    • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

      Sure we can.

    • The deplorables have been let off the leash. It’s going to be rough for lots of folks.

      • Especially Blank Ron

        And not just minorities. Anyone even suspected of being opposed to them will be targetted as well, just like 50 years ago.
        I think I’m glad I stopped wearing my hair long.

    • Red Bird

      Anyone who says this election was not about race is lying to themselves. This election was about white people resetting their right to be oppressive.

      • NastyBosGrl

        Absolutely, positively. My dad (who voted HRC) played golf yesterday with his Trump loving buddies. He said “they’re not bad people because they voted for Trump” and I was so angry, so raw; these are guys I’ve known my whole life, and I told him they are white people afraid to give up their power, and yes, that is racism, my gods, Dad, you’re a smart guy, stop fooling yourself.

        • Red Bird

          Truth! Anyone who is from of living in a country outside the US can tell that’s what is going on. Not very smart.

      • JaaaaaCeeeee

        False choice when neoliberalism, which increases the competition for resources, both unmasks AND inflames racism.

    • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

      If it makes you feel any better (I know it won’t), I witnessed a bit of Islamophobia yesterday and in spite of living in the red part of a blue state, the asshole was immediately told to leave the store while a patron told him, in no uncertain terms, what he could do with his penis and anal sphincter. I don’t think it’s anatomically possible, but still.

    • Shan

      I’ve seen several things like this posted on FB over the past couple of days and there is ALWAYS some fuckstick who says “I don’t believe that actually happened.”

    • Especially Blank Ron

      That didn’t take long.
      Not that I thought it would.

    • YoNastyBunny

      Why aren’t the White Leaders repudiating this bad behavior???

      • Foreign Agitator Ron

        Repudiating it? Who do you think was driving the truck?

  • anwisok

    Minor detail, Dominic.

    The link for India has banned all forms of large currency
    currently goes to a Reuters article about anti-Trump protests.

    Not a criticism – there are a billion links in the wonkagenda, so there are bound to be mixups occasionally.

  • CogitoErgoBibo

    Since gambling will now be legal everywhere, I presume that Trump will direct that we all start relying on it as the basis for investing 401K and Social Security funds? Kidding! Obviously we won’t be allowed those nice things anymore.

  • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

    To be fair to Mexico, if I were them, I would be genuinely afraid of being nuked or at the very least, being attacked in some form, be it physically or economically.

    Can’t believe I fucking typed that sentence.

    • It’s a new paradigm we’re going to have to get used to.

    • onedollarjuana

      I think there are countries in central Asia that will be first. We can only hope that the generals and admirals will disobey crazy orders.

      • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

        Unfortunately, the top brass probably won’t mutiny. They’ve got too much of their lives invested.

        Some underlings might.

    • Red Bird

      So you’re saying that they are not currently being attacked economically???

      • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

        Well, fear of being attacked MORE.

        • Red Bird

          And that is why Mexican Americans are not a reliable voting block.

    • Especially Blank Ron

      It pleases me that the car I’m looking at to replace my poor old Mazda is made in Mexico.

  • 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who has been protesting by kneeling during the national anthem, did not vote, nor did he “really pay attention” during the election.

    Seriously? You want change but you didn’t even bother to use the methods provided to effect some level of change?

    • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

      “I hate the status quo but will make no effort to change things, I guess because I love bitching about things.”

    • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

      The guy’s kind of a flake. He’s still correct about BLM.

    • baconzgood

      I was at a party once and talking to a girl about politics. She was complaining and saying what’s wrong with the political system. I asked her “who’d you vote for”

      She said “I don’t vote”

      I told her “then you should shut the fuck up” and walked away.

      Baconz friend laughed because I “hands down won that argument and put her in her place”

      • Oblios_Cap

        Good Baconz!

      • Marion in Savannah

        I’ve had similar conversations. You don’t vote? Then please to be having a huge plate of STFU.

        • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

          Although, it’s better that they don’t vote than if they vote wrong.

          • Marion in Savannah

            When I was having those conversations I was in NYC, so reliably blue. Hence the yelling.

    • Truthiness2U

      He also bought wholeheartedly into the Rethug talking points about Hillary. How she’d be in jail if she were anyone else. And what would she be in jail for, moron? I get Rethugs who are quite happy to be ignorant being ignorant, but this guy, and idiots like him, are supposedly so ‘woke,’ who claim to want to ‘fight the powers that be!’ then don’t get those same powers they’re rightly upset about for screwing over black people, did the same to her, and for the right to screw over black people some more.

      It’s people like his dumbass who sat home, just enough, to get Trump elected. If just 2% of these high-horsed idiots could have gotten to the polls in just a few states, like WI, MI, FL and PA, or not voted 3rd party because they were so fucking pure, we would have won. In fact, according to 538 if just 2% of the vote was switched in each state, we would have seen a deep blue map.

      I kind of resent the ‘woke’ idiots even more than I blame the racists who voted for Trump. At least those guys are voting in their own best, vile, interests. The others claim to know more, but don’t.

    • Sam Hain

      During an interview with KIRO radio in Seattle in August, Trump criticized Kaepernick’s choice to protest during the anthem.

      “Ithink it’s personally not a good thing. I think it’s a terrible thing,”
      Trump said. “And, you know, maybe he should find a country that works
      better for him. Let him try. It won’t happen.”

      “And to me, it didn’t really matter who went in there. The system still remains intact that oppresses people of color.”

      Yeah Colin, who cares if this guy becomes POTUS…stick your false equivalency up yours…you just told a generation of Youngs, that look up to you, that voting doesn’t matter (unless of course you get the PERFECT candidate).

    • georgiaburning

      Why should you expect much? Kaepernick became a wealthy man because of his football skills, not his academic prowess or critical thinking.

      • Probably not. But I knew of him when he was a student at the University of Nevada, and the people I know who knew him then said he was a lot smarter than he let on.
        And I would expect him to at least do the bare minimum anyone else does when they want change. I really don’t even care if he didn’t vote for President. But who writes state law regarding criminal conduct and state prisons? State legislators. Who hires police chiefs and sets priorities for law enforcement? Mayors and city councils. Who runs the county jails? Sheriffs. Those people can be more directly changed and influenced by the vote than the top of the ticket.

        • georgiaburning

          We definitely agree there

      • JaaaaaCeeeee

        The “outreach” of the self proclaimed progressives running the Democratic party to BLM, including President Obama’s offensive scolding and bootstrapping are a real problem, and Kaep is just a symptom.

  • bryan

    Yes good news, you can legally get stoned on marijuana while Trump brings on the apocalypse.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Well, it does beat facing the apocalypse sober.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Unless his administration decides to enforce federal laws against it.

      • Oblios_Cap

        It has never stopped me before.

    • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

      If I ever have to see a mushroom cloud, i hope I’m stoned to the bejeezus at the time.

  • DoILookAmused2u ?

    As long as they’re happy…

    Jihadists Happy About Trump’s Win

    Vladimir Putin, of course, spent Wednesday morning dancing in the streets of Moscow, likely with his shirt off. And, we are already learning of another foreign policy implication of Donald Trump’s victory: The jihadists are delighted that he will be in the White House.

    Prominent Al-Qaeda-connected cleric Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, for example, took to Twitter to celebrate the beginning of America’s collapse. Jabhat Fateh al-Sham’s Twitter account announced that, “Trump’s victory is a powerful slap to those promoting the benefits of democratic mechanisms.” Trump’s win also jibes with these groups’ strategic vision, since they promote themselves as defenders of Sunni Islam, and Trump appears to be planning to embrace Syria’s Bashar al-Assad, a Shia Alawite. ISIS is happy for a similar reason; reduced to tatters by allied offensives and poor recruiting numbers, Trump’s anti-Muslim statements play into their argument that the world is divided into only two types of people: Muslims, and those who hate Muslims. They expect their numbers to swell, and hope that The Donald will radicalize lone-wolf terrorists in Europe and the United States. We can only hope that they are wrong

    • Especially Blank Ron

      Six months ago this would have been an Onion article.

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      When is the white community going to do something about Trump’s success at radicalizing white males in this country (look at who is actually cop killing)?

  • BMW
    • Ali | A Grumpy Cat

      It’s great that the White House is going to be inhabited by someone I wouldn’t feel comfortable alone in a room with. Although I’m probably only a five, so maybe I wouldn’t have to worry about the raping.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        Today, we all either are or hope to be fives.

      • Should we open a pool on how soon it’ll be before the Secret Service has to tackle the President?

    • Oblios_Cap

      Hell, they should. They planed no small part in getting him elected.

  • beingreleased
    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I’m still working up to a genuine smile but I appreciated this.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        Love your revised username. Think I’ll see if I can adopt a similar one!

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          YES!! Love it.

  • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

    “Journalists… are also already fielding death threats from Trump supporters, and many are worried about their personal safety from people who openly encourage physical violence towards the free press.”

    Ah, the pro-life crowd are already going to work!

    • YoNastyBunny

      Let the doxxing begin! Step 1 in making American Great Again, right?

  • BadWolfGirl

    Everyone SHOULD be afraid. If you’ve been listening at all, Trump has promised to do all kinds of lovely things to EVERYONE.

    BadWolfKid is terrified that his newly reinstated disability benefits & insurance will go poof! He asked if we could somehow find a home off the grid but maintain electricity & internet access. He’s waiting for Trump to declare that autism is just as fake as PTSD.

    Is wveryone else praying for re-counts & a rogue electoral college?

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      I can officially kick my health insurance goodbye.

      Then again, since I don’t think I can make it through four years of a Trump administration, that might not be a bad thing. Fuck.

      • I have a feeling, much like “citizenship marriages”, “insurance marriages” may become a thing.

        • Especially Blank Ron

          For a variety of reasons it will be awkward (it’s okay, not gonna unpack my personal life here) but it looks very much like the g/f will be entering into a citizenship and insurance marriage. With me. In Canada. Because I don’t think she’s going to have her health care plan for long.

  • AnOuthouse

    Yeah Massachusetts! The Freshgrass festival next year will feature real grass!
    http://freshgrass.com/

  • SmokinGood

    I blame the racists.

    • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

      I blame the He Man Woman Hater’s Club as well.

  • Carpe Vagenda

    Wow. That’s a beautiful cat.

  • Nounverb911
  • baconzgood

    Hopefully reporters will man up and start doing their jobs. But the will probably spend the next 4 years tossing softball questions to Trump because the only real journalist work for Wonkette and Mother Jones now.

    • NastyBosGrl

      This is what scares me – that TV talking heads will now be too afraid of him to say anything negative. I don’t want to hear “OK, well he’s president now so kumbaya.”

      • baconzgood

        Journalist used to be cool. Now they are just mouth pieces.

    • AntiDerpomeme

      If you can, send a bit of coinage to both. They deserve it.

      • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

        Tomorrow. Would do it today, but both Ms Thatsit and I are inordinately thirsty for some reason.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      Real journalists will face death threats from the mob and retribution from the federal government.

      • baconzgood

        If it was an easy job then everyone would do it.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          I’m becoming more interested in it since I need a career change, but I don’t know how I’d even get started at this point since I am getting to be an old.

          • baconzgood

            Lie on your resume. That’s the first step to being a reporter.

  • Oblios_Cap

    I just hope the country doesn’t go too far off the rails before we have a chance to stop the GOP.

    • Nounverb911

      I hope so too, but look who has his pantys in a twist already.

      https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/796574545243148288

      • Oblios_Cap

        Well, the country will probably be bankrupt by next year, what with trump’s “management style” and his cabinet’s looting.

      • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

        The will of the people? ~54 % of eligible citizens voted. Donald Trump did not win the majority of their votes cast. Donald Trump did not win a plurality of their votes cast.

      • NastyBossetti

        Ok. The popular vote went to Hillary Clinton, therefore the will of the people is that she is the next President, and there is no legitimate reason for the Electoral College to vote otherwise. Because it’s the will of the people.

      • satanscheerleadersloveamerica

        I kinda remember all kinds of threats of armed rebellion and civil war if Hillary won, but these protests are somehow worse. Fuck this guy.

  • Rick Hill

    So, how about you really smert Dumbocrats looking at the reason, finding the validity and then a solution. Step by step. Ok? Good. I’m just the idea guy so don’t look at me….

  • DoILookAmused2u ?

    What Will Trump the US Constitution?

    The Constitution prohibits the president from receiving any, “present, emolument, office or title” from a foreign country. On one hand, nearly anything that a Trump-owned business receives from a foreign government or citizen in the next four years could run afoul of this law. On the other hand, it would be the Justice Department—who will be working for Trump—that would have to prosecute such a case. It is possible that a private citizen might file suit for violation of this clause, but legal experts are unclear as to whether or not the suit would be allowed to go forward.

    In short, we have a situation where the potential for corruption is rife, and there is no obvious mechanism in place to check it. It would thus be largely on Trump to be on his best behavior, and to do his very best not to profit from his office. This, of course, is a man who regularly used his campaign stops to promote his businesses, and who uses the money that other people donate to his charity to pay legal bills and to grease the skids with politicians. So, there is certainly some cause for concern.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      “So, there is certainly some cause for concern.”

      The understatement of the millenium.

    • Truck Fump

      Stealing and reposting

    • AntiDerpomeme

      But all of the protest voters said they were going with Trump to clean out insider politics. Man, are they going to be disappointed. Also, too, they are so friggin’ dumb if they didn’t see this coming from a mile away.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Now we get corruption from a bunch of “outsiders” who don’t GAF about our country and possibly also too Russian interference. So much better.

      • DoILookAmused2u ?

        18% of those who voted for Trump said he was unfit to be President.

        I don’t know who these people are because we’re still trying to unpack the exit poll data.

        Maybe they are anti-abortion types and such? Maybe some of them are disaffected Sanders anarchists?

        Many Sanders voters, though, voted for Johnson.

        • Resistance Fighter Astraea

          Is that the number of people who want to blow up the whole system?

        • Whale Chowder

          Many Sanders voters, though, voted for Johnson.

          This…this just boggles my mind. Even if you didn’t like Clinton, how does anybody who claims to be for everything Sanders stood for look at Johnson and say, “That’s the next best thing!”

          Oh…pot.

          Fuck.

        • JaaaaaCeeeee

          Sanders voters who voted for Trump are negligible, so this is as useful as the claim that Jill Stein voters lost Hillary Clinton the election (Stein voters told exit pollsters that they would have stayed home if she were not on the ballot).

          Voters who voted twice for Obama and then voted for Trump or stayed home were the actual problem so blaming racism and the voters is a dodge.

    • Historicat

      I think it’s going to come down to how happy Congress is with their new tool. If they can get what they want without too much drama, then they’ll let Trump make all the noise he wants. On the other hand, if he goes off course to the point where President Pence seems like a better idea? Congress might suddenly be shocked – shocked! – to find gambling in this establishment.

  • Rick Hill

    The possibility of trump enacting the things he said he would do if elected? Pffft. He just said a whole bunch of shit to get elected. Only thing he will do that does not enrich trump personally are the things he’s said in the past…which, the only things that do not enrich trump, are the hateful bigoted positions he holds.

    • AnOuthouse

      The only upside to all of this is laughing at the morons who voted for him when nothing he said he was going to do happens and they realize they’ve been lied to by a liar.

      • Rick Hill

        I think the less faithful of the believers are already getting the feeling they’ve been had.

        • Gosala

          What makes you say that?

    • Cartoon Euchrid Eucrow

      You’re right about Trump. The scary one and the one to watch is ratfuck Pence.

      • Rick Hill

        He’s the one who will work with Ryan and McConnell to dismantle our nation.

        • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

          Do any of you know of a nice Evangelical church I can join? One with, say, a four year membership plan?

      • NastyBosGrl

        Agreed, he may be the de facto President a la Cheney. They’ll do everything behind Trump’s back.

      • JaaaaaCeeeee

        The ones to watch are the Supreme Court, the House of Representatives, the Senate and the record 69 of 99 state assemblies now in movement conservatives’ hands.

  • Vincent Ricola

    My elementary school teaching cousin woke up to find someone left a “no more nigger teachers” note taped to her door sometime last night. When she called me crying at 5am, we had to go the “at least they didn’t spray paint your car or do anything permanent or physical to you, a note can be thrown away” route to try and feel okay about it. It didn’t work.

    So yeah, I blame everyone. The protest votes, the apathetic non-votes, the shitty cable media, the shitty way that every single campaign was run from the primaries to the general. Fuck all those people equally.

    • NastyBosGrl

      What the absolute fuck.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea

      I’m so sorry. And angry at all these hateful and selfish fuckers.

    • Red Bird

      Did she figure out who did it?

      • Vincent Ricola

        No. She has no idea. We live in a terrible red state and she lives in a smallish town, so it could’ve been anyone. Although I imagine as people continue to be emboldened by our new President, someone will end up bragging about it at some point.

        • Red Bird

          She should hang a picture of “Black Jesus” on her front door with a sign saying “God is watching you.”

    • MynameisBlarney

      Motherfuckin racist pricks.
      This we can blame 100% on trump.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Note saved and turned over to the police as a threat? Because it is and it should be. If (God forbid) something worse happened later, that could become an important piece of evidence.

      • Vincent Ricola

        Yes. She called the police and filed a report. She’s also getting cameras for outside her doors installed. It’s scary.

        • CogitoErgoBibo

          Scary indeed. VERY glad she’s taking steps. Hugs to her. No one should have to suffer that sort of treatment.

        • Creepoman

          Might want to check if the handwriting on the note matches the handwriting on the police report . . .

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            Oh that is DARK.

          • Especially Blank Ron

            It’s become a dark world.

    • NastyBossetti

      There is no way to feel ok about it. That is beyond horrible. I’m so sorry.

    • mancityhombres

      That’s the worst part for me, I’m less afraid of a Trump administration than I am some of his followers.

      Jesus fuckity fuck fuck.

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      You left out network news media. You also left out Democratic leadership (including President Obama), fast tracking TPP with the claim it would raise wages and create jobs.

  • Truck Fump
    • NastyBosGrl

      Oh well let’s hope for that last part – that in 10 years there will be more of us than them as they die out.

      • Rick Hill

        One theory as to the crime rate falling is the removal of lead from our homes and businesses. So, in a sense, that’s correct as those lead riddled brains continue to die off.

        • NastyBosGrl

          That is such an amazing thing. It makes me so sad for all that lost potential.

      • Kitty Smith

        You know, I said that before… and welp, look where we are.

        The alt-righties have been making more alt-righties, through Gamergate, pickup artists turned alt-right gurus, and many more places.

        • NastyBosGrl

          That is so depressing.

          • Kitty Smith

            Yeah, i really thought that Millenials were smarter than this. And by and large, well… we were. But a large chunk of white millenials went alt-right. I figured it was mostly fringe… it was sobering.

    • Carpe Vagenda

      I have the feeling the people whose single issue was their educational loans are not going to be too comfortable with their new allies.

      • Red Bird

        I have a feeling they’re aren’t smart enough to figure that out.

    • baconzgood

      I love how that they argue “universities are only for the stupid”.

      They really don’t understand that college doesn’t you what to think but how to go about thinking critically.

    • Fartknocker

      I was in the middle of the protests yesterday in Austin (we we’re assigned for Medical Ops). They were peaceful, not happy about the outcome, and young, vibrant college students. I hope they keep this passion beyond one 6-hour protest on Congress Avenue. My driver stated on the way back to our fire station that “Sometimes you don’t get what you want in a democracy. But you always get to take the time to write letters, call the legislator and be a nice pain in the ass. But always, you can vote so think about what you’re doing at the ballot machine.”

      • Truck Fump

        I love Austin. Keep Austin weird!

    • Randy Riddle

      I need a t-shirt that says “This Marxist shoots back.”

    • HazooToo

      The idea that these people think absolutely nothing of saying that they want to murder people who disagree with them is positively disgusting. I think we’re going to see an increase of Dems with guns, bought for self defense, in case these fuckers decide to put their wet dreams into action.

    • Treg Brown

      I especially enjoyed, “I’d give them 15 minutes and then shoot them in their worthless Marxist heads.”

      I wonder how statements like that will impact my ability to become a doctor and one day save this asshat’s life.

    • BMW

      “Well said!”
      -guy who probably didn’t read it all

    • desida

      Delurking here for the first time to say: I don’t get it. I keep seeing this. A friend of mine joked on Facebook about how the West Coast states (we live in Portland) should start considering joining Canada and some random Trumpster barged in to tell her to go fuck herself. The comments sections of every non-super-liberal news site are screaming with Trump supporters figuratively and literally baying for our blood.

      They WON. They got everything their shitty little hearts desire on Tuesday. President, Senate, House – it’s wall-to-wall Republicans. They are now free to stomp all over our rights as they have so desperately craved for years. And yet, they’re still SO FUCKING ANGRY. Is it even possible for these people to chill the fuck out and be happy about anything, or has right-wing propaganda so warped them that nothing short of the literal death of every liberal in America will do?

      • JaaaaaCeeeee

        Since Donald Trump, like generations of Republicans before him, has conned his voters, no. They will only get angrier, it’s electoral strategy, but you are not crazy and I’m glad you enjoy progressives and their web sites.

      • phoenix00

        Hitler did not stop at Fuhrer. He did not stop at Kristallnacht. He did not stop at the Sudentenland. He did not stop at the Warsaw ghetto. He did not stop at Bergen-Belsen, He did not stop at Auschwitz.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Think twice if you live in California or Nebraska if you plan on committing any felonies in the next few years as both California and Nebraska have voted to keep capital punishment.

    Can I commit a felony that does not actually hurt another human being, but that does prevent me from living through four years of President Trump?

    • CourseZombie

      Callie, we need you. I know you’re worn out and bereft right now, but we aren’t going anywhere. Take some time. Rest up and heal. We’re here for you.

      • Resistance Fighter Callyson

        Thanks honey, I’ll do my best. Glad to see my name change got processed.

      • Shan the Nasty Libtart

        Seconded.

      • Resistance Fighter Astraea

        Thirded. The future is going to be a lot harder than we expected, but we will struggle through it together.

    • Treg Brown

      No please dear woman.

  • I BLAME OBAMA AND HIS UPPITY SMART MOUTH!

    I honestly think this is the moment Trump decided to run for president:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJpWOY3r18

    Our first “Spite President”?

  • MynameisBlarney

    Today in “My, isn’t that interesting?”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/russia-confirms-direct-communications-with-trump-campaign-prior-to-election-day/

    Russia confirms direct communication with trump campaign prior to election day.

    • Rick Hill

      Our first Russian endorsed preznit and our first Russian spy FLOTUS

      • MynameisBlarney

        No shit.
        And voted into power by “real ‘Merkan true patriots” too.

        Fuckin dipshits.

        • Rick Hill

          A comment at the link you gave:
          guest • 7 minutes ago
          Al little off topic but since Russia has admitted to interfering in the election. I remember looking at the election results where suddenly on the WP page all the battleground states suddenly reported surges for The Con. Almost simultaneously. I thought that was odd. That image has stuck with me because it didn’t and still doesn’t feel right. If Russia can create fake emails and hack into the computer networks in the US-is it unthinkable that they didn’t hack the voting machine if these places were using computes? Even if they used paper ballots most of them are counted by computers. Something is not jake about this whole thing and it’s because of the timing.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yeah…
            And our govt. does not seem to give a fuck, either.

          • Rick Hill

            The “patriots” don’t either

          • Resistance Fighter Astraea

            Nope, if it happened it got them what they wanted so damn the consequences. And the media is more concerned with making sure us liberals get in line nice and civilly.

          • MynameisBlarney

            Yeah….
            About that…

            https://media.giphy.com/media/yYlqM5HxpDfSU/giphy.gif

            The media can go forth and fornicate itself.

          • Rick Hill

            Anyone go undercover at any rightwing sites? Be nice to set a bur under their blanket. Get them thinking about a Russian plot.

          • MynameisBlarney

            I’m sure some folks do.
            But I ain’t gonna be a troll.

          • Doug Langley

            Won’t work. I’ve visited those sites, and when the subject of Putin comes up they say “Trump will create world peace! See how well he gets along with Putin?”

          • Kitty Smith

            I doubt it. If even one voting machine has been remotely hacked, there’s someone is literally doing it wrong.

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      Thank goodness that Hillary Clinton and her campaign never had anything to do with ambassadors of other countries?

      Seriously, until we call off cold war 2 and red baiting progressives to protect monopoly price setters and economic predators, this innuendo will always back fire.

  • Gayer Than Thou

    I’m afraid I’m going to have to blame my father, but we haven’t had that conversation yet. If he voted for Trump, it didn’t make a difference because we live in a blue state, but I would probably blame him anyway.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Good luck with Thanksgiving. I’m sure you won’t be the only one drinking heavily and trying to weather the storm.

    • baconzgood

      My psychiatrist and I blame my dad for everything l.

    • AntiDerpomeme

      My dad is a full-bore liberal (except for the abortion issue, Catholic and all), so I know he voted for Hillz. Therefore, I’m going to have to blame your dad too. Say ‘Hi’ to him for me.

      • Gayer Than Thou

        I an tentatively optimistic he saw the light at the end, given that he’s all pro-gay-rights.

  • Me The People

    2 words: Midterm Elections. Imagine what state the country will be in by then. They won’t be able to drown out discussion by shouting “emails” either. I’m starting to realise that there is hope.

    • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

      There’s hope, but not much of a track record lately.

      • CourseZombie

        These aren’t ordinary times. We’ve got 4 whole years to roar back and fight like haven’t had to fight in our generation. We’ve got a hell of an organizational structure at our backs.

        • Especially Blank Ron

          If there’d been structure and communication like this 50 years ago, well, the 60s might have had a far greater effect. At least that’s what I keep telling myself.

        • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

          We’ve got about a year to get ready for midterms.

    • baconzgood

      I’m looking forward to all the Republican voters complaining about the government while not acknowledging that the GOP in in control of all 3 branches of government.

      • onedollarjuana

        We’ll just have to keep reminding them.

      • BMW

        They might just go back to the “government right, protesters wrong” mentality of the Bush years.

        • YoNastyBunny

          “How dare you say such bad things about the President of the United States!!!!” What kind of American are you?

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            Funny how often you’d hear that. Except, you know, for the last eight years.

    • The Wanderer

      There is always hope.

      “You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.”
      – Mohandas K. Gandhi

    • BMW

      Seriously.

    • Apple Scruff

      I think a lot of us need to take the reigns and really educate people why the mid-terms are so important. A huge swath of the population can’t even name the three branches of government and don’t understand why this is so important.

      I’m not sure if I mentioned this here or somewhere else, but my boss (wealthy 40-something white woman) didn’t even know what the electoral college is or how the Supreme Court works. I doubt she knows anything about Congress.

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      Keith Ellison to run the DNC would help:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkPadFK34o

  • Mr. Blobfish

    James Fucking Comey

    • Nasty Suffragette

      I think he committed treason.

      • Doug Langley

        Well, good thing Obama fired him and he’s under arrest.

        Umm, he is . . . right?

  • Shan the Nasty Libtart

    Teachers across the nation are struggling to console distraught and emotional students who are now faced with the unfortunate reality that racism and sexism are both alive and well in the United States.

    I have heard from teacher friends and family (and their teacher friends via FB) who are having to witness their little students – some as young as kindergarten – hugging each other and saying goodbye.

    • AntiDerpomeme

      So heartbreaking

  • CourseZombie

    Hell, I’m planning to spend a good part of the next 4 years baked out of my skull. When I’m not out fighting for us!!! Hell yeah!

  • NastyBosGrl

    Reminder: This is how Paul LePage got elected. Twice. We learned nothing.

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    Eventually I will have moved from the drinking myself into oblivion stage to the ready to fight on state. I guess I’m looking forward to that…

    • Rick Hill

      Careful of that bottle. I knew a lot of folks who thought they were bigger than it and woke up one day to find themselves stuck inside it.

      • CogitoErgoBibo

        On the plus side, empty or full, it’ll make a nice weapon during the coming apocalypse.

    • Major_Major_Major

      I’m about a day away from lacing on the boots, and heading back into the trenches. I need at least one more angry gym session, so that it will be a focused determination, and not a detrimental blind rage.

      • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

        You are right, exercise and fresh air help. I needed a long-ass bike ride yesterday.

      • NastyBossetti

        Yeah I went to the gym last night and the trainer was like, “How are you?” I was like, “hrnghhhh,” and he was like, “Yeah, I know. Let’s move heavy stuff around.” It was exactly what I needed to work out some anger and stress.

      • YoNastyBunny

        Gym Bunny that I am, I haven’t yet gotten the spirit to work out. But when I finally get it back (tomorrow morning maybe), it will be a helluva workout. I remember how pissed I was during the Baltimore/Freddie Gray incident going full-tilt boogey watching all those asshats (Erin Burnett, with whom I really have a bone to pick) on the CNN flat-screens bashing Baltimore.

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          Baltimore’s fall, like Detroit’s, stuns me. But the reaction to that fall stuns me even more. How in the names of the gods do you start thinking, ‘Haw haw, look at how miserable that place is becoming! Let’s point and laugh!’? I think I’ve visited most or all of the Rust Belt cities, and what I feel is pity at the waste and general air of hopelessness. No wonder they voted for Dear Leader. He at least pretended to be able to fix them.

          • JaaaaaCeeeee

            Trump made billionaire by stiffing everyone from pensioners to plumbers in Atlantic City, which goes under a state control board like Flint, today.

        • Major_Major_Major

          I usually go in the wee hours of the morn, but yesterday went at lunchtime and did a burner that left me spaghetti legged, but much calmer, saner, and determined.

    • Note to the country: I just ran out of bubble gum! (You’ll catch it on the way home.)

    • NastyBossetti

      Yeah, Philly had some shit like this, too, painted on a storefront, and on someone’s car.

    • Resistance Fighter Callyson

      Oh, for…I don’t even have the strength to go on FFS.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      Welcome to our Brave New World. Totally great again. Sigh…

    • UnsaltedSinner
    • Marion in Savannah

      STUNTS??? Really? [head/desk]

      • NastyBosGrl

        Those silly frat boys! What will they think of next?

        • Apple Scruff

          I first read your comment as “What will they drink of next?” Which I think is also apropos.

        • nightmoth

          Perhaps we can suggest a new fad of them putting lit firecrackers in their butts. Better than the cinnamon challenge.

        • Pisto75666

          Ahh! youthful indiscretion!

    • See, I don’t know why people keep blaming this on racism and bigotry. It’s pretty obviously just a righteous struggle for economic parity against the elites! Why do “they” keep bringing up the social issue “distractions” (rolleyes)

  • kev

    if Trump follows thru and makes Giuliani AG, no Republican official should fear indictment unless they happen to be on the enemies list.

    • NastyBosGrl

      Ghoul looks awful. I’ll be surprised if he makes it much longer than the inauguration.

      • AntiDerpomeme

        I was going to say something snarky and unkind, but it would also violate the rules, and I don’t want to get banned today.

        • Vincent Ricola

          We can think our snarky and very unkind thoughts though and, like you, mine have zero to do with votes.

      • kev

        we can only hope.

    • phoenix00

      Actually he wants to do cybersecurity. https://gizmodo.com/rudy-giuliani-will-be-a-disaster-1788813294

      Feel free to laugh.

  • Seeing as how gambling will probably be legal all over the place, you may as well start placing your bets on which Trumpkin cabinet member will be indicted first.

    Zero. Because the Justice Department and Congress will still be investigating Hillary for the next four years.

    sitting around baked out of your skull and waiting out the next few years isn’t the right course of action.

    Sounds like a pretty awesome plan to me.

  • Rick Hill

    I need to get up and do some work! Would someone do me a favor and give my butt a kick to get me going?
    https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/thumb/4/48/I_love_lisa_bart.png/250px-I_love_lisa_bart.png

    • HazooToo

      Get movin!

    • nightmoth

      Have you gotten dressed yet? That helps. I stayed in pajamas yesterday until 3 in the afternoon.

      • Historicat

        I stayed in pajamas all day yesterday. Of course, I spent Tuesday night alternating between diarrhea-induced trips to the bathroom and shivering under a blanket with a fever. So yeah … 2016!

        • nightmoth

          Uh–oh. Feeling better yet? Drinking hot tea? Get well soon.

    • Serai 1

      “Kick my ass! I’m not asking, I’m telling with this!” — Artie Fufkin, This Is Spinal Tap

    • phoenix00

      That looks suspiciously Ted Cruz.

      Or Bannon. One of those.

  • JVisconti

    … retracting. Wonkette is not an anger management tool. no banhammer for me today.

    • Serai 1

      I like to post something horrible and then change it in less than a minute. Posting is the catharsis for me. I don’t need to have anyone actually see it. ;)

  • UnsaltedSinner

    There’s nothing new under the sun…

    https://twitter.com/edwest/status/796719427207233536

  • Apple Scruff

    Media-media-bo-bedia, banana-fana foe-fedia, fe-fi-mo-media…

  • nightmoth

    Is there a cut-off age for the Peace Corps? Didn’t Jimmy Carter’s mother, Miss Lillian, join when she was 70? Asking for a friend.

  • BMW

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b45b66c582beb9bf872dc2887a9aeb4323ee7e56a5dd17b326da0e1a0033216e.png
    Not all of us in red states are bad. I’m so proud of these protesters for refusing to be silent and exercising their right to voice their outrage.

    • chortlingdingo

      We’re having one in San Antonio this weekend, and I’ll be there.

  • nightmoth

    Hell, yes, I blame the media. I grew up with Walter Cronkite and Huntley & Brinkley, and hearing stories about Edward Murrow from my mother. I edited a newspaper for a year. There is no 4th estate in this country any longer that holds powerful interests accountable or that investigates to find the truth. End of story.

    • TJ Barke

      The media’s apparently just as susceptible to regulatory capture as the government.

      • nightmoth

        The FCC lifted their cross-ownership rules 20 years ago after being lobbied by big media companies. Today, a whopping 90% of all media outlets: newspapers, television and radio, are owned by 6 companies.
        It’s all about the money, not about information. They self-censor to appeal to the lowest common denominator. (This means you, Trump voters, and 3rd party woo-woos.)

        • TJ Barke

          And it’s not always just about appeal, it’s also about reinforcing the overall corporate agenda. That’s why “liberal” media is basically a myth. They may be liberal insofar as they’re supportive of gay rights, and against racism, but they’re always pro corporate capitalism, that is always a foregone conclusion for them.

          • nightmoth

            Excellent observation, TJ. They preen themselves on being supportive of gays and blacks, even hiring some! Gasp! But it’s all about the money.

    • BMW

      I’ve found some old Edward R. Murrow videos at the library was incredibly impressed by his use of facts and evidence and actually building a complete picture instead of the “he said she said” and talk-point driven political reporting we get now. His reputation is richly deserved.

  • Crystalclear12

    So when do the “don’t blame me, I voted for Hillary.” Bumper stickers come out?

    • nightmoth

      The sooner, the better.

    • Apple Scruff

      I would wear that on a button for sure.

    • Adam Field

      Hm, yeah, that might not be a bad idea, since I’m planning on keeping the Bernie sticker on my car for as long as it’ll last, and I wouldn’t want to give people the wrong idea. Would be happy to put that one next to it.

    • JVisconti

      Donald has already bought the copyright. No $ left unturned.

      • Rick Hill

        “Got a buck? No holding out, hand it over.”

    • Serai 1

      I’ve got my Bloom County “After the Election” tshirt.

      http://wharble.com/sites/default/files/I_Voted_For_Bill_N_Opus_T-Shirt.jpg

      Except mine’s black. I’ve had it since the 80’s.

  • Apple Scruff

    “we can safely blame Jill Stein and Gary Johnson for the loss of Florida, Pennsylvania…”

    Ah so yes. I live in PA. My next door neighbor is a 25 year old girl (YES GIRL) who was a big Bernie fan. I asked her last week if she was voting in the general and she said “Yes” but she voted Jill Stein.

    She is graduating college next month, which took her 7 years to complete because she kept dropping out. She will have no student debt because her parents paid for her schooling. Over the summer, they paid for her to take classes in Paris. She tells me that, in January, she is going to the Caribbean because she, like, so totally ‘Hates American culture”. She doesn’t plan on getting a job, just island hop for the next 8 months, crashing on couches and bartering work (ie learning from the locals how to make bracelets and such) for food and board.

    She is getting her degree in “agricultural studies” and claims to be very into the environment. I ask her, why don’t you volunteer for your cause then? Join Greenpeace or Habitat for Humanity?

    “Nah, I want to travel”.

    • JVisconti

      Maybe she can get a job in the coal mines when Donald brings them back. Black lung disease will not be covered under TrumpCare BTW

      • Apple Scruff

        Well, she ain’t gonna have health insurance no more! She’s currently on mom and dad’s plan cause of Obama (oh yeah, she said “Obamacare sucks” too).

        • Serai 1

          People like that make me not at all embarrassed about my love of schaedfreude pie. It’s just so tasty!

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      Of course millennials, the generation with no future, look bad painting them with anecdotes of the 1% millennials, when the problem is the 1%.

  • Panika MCD

    so I got treated on Tuesday night when I came home to a rant by activist poet Jared Paul which was about as disgusting as it could be. *unfriended* (and, boy oh boy, a lot of people are pissed at him.) and I felt like it was okay to rant about the BoBs who fell for Stein’s schtick, but I was wrong. why? because Alien Brother was active on the Bernie subreddit and because he’d called out the sexist statements there, apparently a) they didn’t exist anywhere in the Bernosphere (that’s funny) and b) it was, as Jared said, all our fault for not listening to entitled white boys. in fact, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the entitled white boys who we didn’t listen to. Bernie himself spent a lot of time making sure their babas were the right temperature and wiping their butts after the primary while Bernie’s larger, but not as vocal constituency of union members when pretty much ignored. so, sure, the bitchy little white boys fucked up Florida again by voting 3rd party, but that doesn’t explain what happened in the Rust Belt. it’s a lot of union members and, even in the South, Hispanics saying that they’re pretty sure Trumple didn’t mean what he said about walls, but did mean what he said about the economy. and that means we ignored the working class to the point where they thought that coal would actually come back with all those manufacturing jobs that, well, are simply not going to fucking happen. also, why would they think he was bluffing on the wall? the people who support that shit are angry that they haven’t been able to wear sheets in public and have guns. if he doesn’t pull through on that one, they may just give Pence a try in short order. but, yay! let’s coddle the bros some more because that’s not fucking demeaning. let’s make sure that any time we try to do a post op we have to spend an hour explaining why we’re not talking about all Bernie supporters because that will certainly comply with the union member’s schedules once worker protections are rolled back!

    • Serai 1

      I can’t even bear talking to any Latino who comes up with shit like that. They deserve what’s coming, mocosos.

      • Panika MCD

        I told you guys not to be too optimistic about the Cubans.

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      Bernie Sanders was endorsed by every union (as well as other grass roots organizations) that let the rank and file vote. The first time Hillary Clinton joined instead of crossed a picket line (her first date) was when she visited the most visible one because Bernie had.

      Something about your claim that Bernie Sanders wiped the babas of entitled white boys, after the primaries, while ignoring unions doesn’t gell.

      • Panika MCD

        yeah, it’s doesn’t “gell” because that’s not a fucking word.

  • Stulexington

    Republicans. I blame the Republicans and no one else. They are the ones who pandered to their crazies. They are the ones who left the door open for a huckster to take over. They are the ones who ran his ground game. They are the ones who kept up with their voter suppression. The party of personal responsibility gets to own this one.

    I know what you’re thinking: “but Stu, what about the media and other enablers?” They encouraged, they gave the nod and a free pass, but the Republicans are the ones who did it. They stared into the abyss and said “win at all costs.”

    But what about the DNC? The left are under no obligation to act as babysitter to the right, no matter how childish the right has become.

    Win at all costs, and it’s time to keep a ledger. Hold them to account for every %age point unemployment, every dollar in extra debt, every dollar drop in median income.

    • jesuswasablack

      “Hold them to account”

      Won’t happen my friend, they all watch FAUX, Drudge, dead Brietbart and listen to Rush. They never heard a good word about president Obama and the’ll never hear a bad word about Trump no matter how bad he fucks up, just won’t matter.
      https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAdzAAAAJDVhMmE4NjZmLWUwMmYtNDJmZC1hOGUxLTE5ZTMyYmQwMDI5YQ.jpg

      • Msgr_Moment

        NOT ONE OF US, GABBA GABBA, HEY!!

      • Stulexington

        I don’t mean them I mean us. I mean keep demanding of them “where are the jobs.”

      • Cool_North

        The problem of this people is that they were never ever great. They were just riding the tails of some people who were great, but definitely not from their neighborhood. And now they just dispensed of those too. Hee-haw, welcome to ‘Murica, they brought it to their level, uniformly.

    • AnOuthouse

      The reality is neither party represents most US citizens, just the wealthy few. The Republican Party was just ripe for being taken over. The D’s need to clean up their act too.

    • Serai 1

      Nice try. But Trump was ELECTED. Thus the ultimate blame is on the voters who elected him.

      • Doug Langley

        To be exact, Hillary won the popular vote. Even with the mountain of media slander more people voted for her than Trump.

      • Stulexington

        If you vote Republican you are a Republican. You don’t need a fancy card, you support it, you own it.

  • Squirrel_Time

    Blame the GOP for being so fucking stupid since the Lardass Limbaugh went syndicated.

    Today’s once respectable GOP remains with its endless bitching and whining, conspiracy theories, and the He Man Hillary Hate Club.

    And with that one election, America loses.

    All pro GOP voters deserve a good kick in the shins, early and often.
    Save your special moves for every white women whose sole reasoning for not voting for the most qualified candidate in decades is reduced to the plaint “but I just don’t TRUST Hillary!”
    Heck, let Trump grab all that white, suburban pussy. Then we can check back with them about their trust issues.

    • ZangoCrudmonger

      53% white women for Trump, 43% Clinton. I’m still fucking befuddled.

      • Squirrel_Time

        And nearly all women who voted for Trump will invariably whine about not ‘trusting’ Hillary.

        When do they ever question the trustworthiness of a male candidate?

        It seems to never be an issue.

        • Bub the Mad Zombie

          You can trust Drumpf and the Rethugs to fuck things up. Maybe they’re fine with that as long as they are fucking things up more for blahs, meskins, mooslims and gheys than they are for them.

        • Serai 1

          They didn’t trust Obama.

      • Cool_North

        53%?!?? Jesus on a cracker. Why do conservative American white women hate women and people in general?

      • Nasty Suffragette

        That’s the figure I can’t stop thinking about. I truly thought that tons of right-leaning women would, at the end of the day, pull the lever for Hillary. But nope.

        • Serai 1

          It’s certainly put an end to any sympathy I might have had for them. If they like being treated like shit so much, fine. Let them eat the banquet they paid for.

      • AnOuthouse

        53% of the 53% who bothered to vote at all.

        46.9% didn’t vote
        25.6% voted for Clinton
        25.5% voted for Trump

      • phoenix00

        I still can’t process that. Sexist/Misogynist/Pedophile/Molester vs none of those, and they chose the former.

  • The Librarian

    “remember that sitting around baked out of your skull and waiting out the next few years isn’t the right course of action”

    *Sigh* I guess Dominic is guilting me into a plan B….

    • Msgr_Moment

      Dom made you miss your period? Bad Intern!!

      • The Librarian

        Hahaha! It took me looking for spelling errors to get that.

        * As an olds, that worry ended several years ago.

  • jesuswasablack

    Hillz has take some of the Blame, she took previous blue states for granted and did not shore up her base like Trump did. She also created a potentially fatal error with the “basket of deplorables” remark. Politics 101 never insult your opponents voters!

    http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Hillary-Clinton-Basket-of-Deplorables-Screen-Grab.jpg

    • Squirrel_Time

      Compared to the idiot Trump, who called Hillary and the Dems names all the fucking time.

      • jesuswasablack

        I agree but the fact is trump voters were energized by many things, hate, racism but mostly their hate for Hillz, the “basket” comment just energized them even more. Nobody does victim exploitation better than tea-tards!

        • Squirrel_Time

          Hillary won the popular vote with sunny optimism.

          Trump won the EV votes telling us how much America sucks.

          • Foreign Agitator Ron

            And now his drooling mob will prove that he was right.

          • Cool_North

            Self-fulfilling prophecy, if there ever was one.

          • Serai 1

            Technically, it’s not a prophecy if the speaker causes the change to come about.

        • Serai 1

          So she should have been a nice, polite lady and just smiled to make everyone happy?

          FUCK. THAT. NOISE.

          • Grendel

            Disagree on policy, don’t denigrate voters. Call Trump names, question his ethics, call him racist… but don’t go after the voters.

          • Pisto75666

            It’s hard to go after the Trump voters anyway, they’re so busy threatening and shooting those who don’t agree with them.

          • Doug Langley

            She gave a loophole. She only called “half” of them deplorable and you’re free to guess which half you are.

    • the_steamer

      It’s the party of personal responsibility, isn’t it? The voters own responsibility for their vote. Not that they will take it when the shit hits the fan.

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Don’t break out the weed yet. One of those Executive Orders Trump is vowing to cancel to “erase the Obama presidency” is the one that tells the feds to leave those nice stateside federal-statute violating potheads alone

    • Squirrel_Time

      Yeah, I suspect a Trump run DOJ will start busting up legal weed shops – in spite of that whole states’ rights thingy.

      Seems the GOP only cares about states’ rights when the R governed states are suppressing the vote, denying Americans their civil rights, and passing toilet laws.

    • Serai 1

      There’s only so much they can do as more states keep legalizing. They can’t be everywhere at once.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    I shall drown my sorrows in pork products and vodka as I get back to toiling in the law mine.

    • Constant Gardener

      As soon as I sober up (middle of next week) I’m sending resumes to every NGO that sues to protect the environment. We’re going to lose EPA and SCOTUS will behave irrationally for a long, long time. All shoulders to the wheel!!

    • Hi Mr. Blobfish- I have a q ustion 4 a Lawyer
      Is there a legal way 4 the Electors to vote for Clinton on Dec16?
      Due to a “constitutional crisis?(triggered by proof of Putin colluding w/Trump/Campaign ? or due to civil unrest ? HRC Won pop vote –
      Also is it insane to wonder if Putin or ? could’ve hacked machines in Mich & WI & NC or Florida? I have a dream… that JEdgarComey & FBI will announce charges against Trump/Campaign before dec 16..would that allow EC to vote HRC? Im a retired singer/songwriter who started pro at 15 and ony attended Berklee for a second- (not quite dumb enough 2b a drummer..) I enjoy Wonkette & comments here from people I find scary smart – the Wonkers comments always make me feel better when something in DC or this entire campaign has upset me.
      I have been a huge HRC supporter since 1999- was a PUMA who got onboard with POTUS after 2008 primary was over -(cuz thats what a DEM does)-I’m DEVASTATED by #OrangeJuliusCaesar ‘s ascention to the Crown (like lots of peeps) now find myself hating the same Americans that were my Audience & friends all my life-(thank God my sister isn’t a Trumptafarian or Stein or Johnson voter- Any hope?? Anyone ? TY
      Cari in Palm Springs

      • Mr. Blobfish

        I work in I/T. Have you tried rebooting yor election?

  • Squirrel_Time

    Congratulations, America: you elected a fascist to the WH.

    Let’s watch what happens next.

    • Paperless Tiger

      The Fall Fascism preview. now playing!

    • Foreign Agitator Ron
      • nightmoth

        Fingers crossed we don’t take down Canada with us.

        • Foreign Agitator Ron

          We’re all rather scared about that, but until Dear Leader’s sycophants actually try to do something all we can do is make plans. Pretty sure every other country on the planet’s doing the same.

          • Doug Langley

            Well, not every country. I’d hazard a guess that Putin can’t wait to introduce Donnie to his brilliant idea of a “Russia-American” alliance.

          • phoenix00

            And guess who’s in the middle?

  • Bebecca

    I think we underestimated how much Hillary is disliked and how much people want things to be different. We dismissed it thinking people would come around and see Trump’s awfulness and that didn’t happen. They were willing to give him a chance-“what do you have to lose?” might be the winning slogan here-and ignore everything terrible about him if he could bring about change.

    • Squirrel_Time

      The worst part of it?

      Hillary is a very likable person. People hate the Hillary as Monster the right wing created.

      • A friend of mine who voted for Trump texted me yesterday and said “So, was she really responsible for Benghazi?”
        I almost wanted to scream “WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL NOW TO ASK ME THAT?”

        • Cool_North

          Sounds like those who googled “brexit” after the fact. Only the trumpanzees know exactly why they voted for McFuckface.

    • Foreign Agitator Ron

      Too bad none of ’em were bright enough to ask the next question: what KIND of change?

    • PubOption

      “When you’ve got nothing, you’ve got nothing to lose.”

      • nightmoth

        Nothing to lose?—ha. The Trump voters I know have enormous pickup trucks, a roof over their heads, all the hamburgers and potato chips they can eat, and medicaid to cover the costs of the breathing machines they have to use at night to get to sleep because they’re so fucking fat they’d otherwise smother! I hope they DO lose it all! It’ll serve them right for voting for Stupid!

        • phoenix00

          On the flip side, rolling coal is easier now that there’s no EPA getting in the way.

    • Bub the Mad Zombie

      We can never allow ourselves to forget WHY she was disliked. It was because the Republican party, out of sheer cynicism and cold, calculated mendacity, decided to engage in a campaign of political dirty tricks against Hillary Clinton in order to destroy her as a viable candidate for national political office. They did this in plain sight, by using congressional investigatory powers against her, and they accomplished it with the complicity of the media, which insisted in covering these dog and pony shows as though there was actual criminal wrongdoing to be uncovered.

      She was defeated, ultimately, by EMAILZ! and BENGHAZIII!!!! The people who set out to destroy her knew exactly what they were doing, and it worked. The media, who handed the Republicans a bullhorn to broadcast their spurious charges and even shouted through it themselves, will have to live with what they have helped to inflict upon the United States of America.

      • Nastyinencinitas

        She was defeated by evil. Evil forces at work in our society. This is not the Star Trek future I thought I was going to get if I lived right. This is like doing what you’re supposed to do and still getting Caligula as your leader. It’s unfathomable how stupid people are and how easy it is for evil people to control them. What do we do? Wait for the evil people to eat each other?

        • Serai 1

          Actually, the Star Trek future includes several really awful wars that more or less devastated the planet. It isn’t until AFTER those wars that humanity rises from the dregs and rebuilds the world in a just and sane image.

          • Resistinceisnotfutile

            That is kind of what I have always worried/thought I would be living through. Every time it rains I think this may be the last time I see it rain. Every once in a while I think, I’m going to look back on these days and think I am the last generation that will experience this planet the same way people had it 5,000 years ago. It’s not going to survive. I hope with all my heart now that my kid doesn’t have a kid. Whatever my grandkid would inherit will bear no resemblance to the world my parents brought me into. Sorry about the apocalyptic paranoid ravings. All I see is darkness and death. I can’t put a hopeful spin on this.

          • Historicat

            I’m with you – I feel like I should apologize to my kids for bringing them into this ridiculous excuse for a world.

      • Grendel

        I disagree.

        I’m a staunch liberal, but I’m no fan of Hillary. She’s a Republican-lite and Neocon in foreign policy. The Clintons were constantly mixed up in questionable activities and coverups, too. The email server wasn’t a big deal, but trying to get away with it and covering it up turned it into one.

        There’s a reason she and Bill are constantly mixed up in scandal while Obama had a scandal free 8 years.

        • Serai 1

          I notice you gloss over the fact that those “scandals” were UTTER BULLSHIT invented for the specific purpose of getting YOU to think exactly what you’re thinking. Very convenient for you.

          • Grendel

            Were they? Did Hillary not have an unapproved private email server? Did Bill not have an affair in the White House and lie about it?

            Where were the manufactured scandals about Obama? I must have missed them.

            I notice you skip over the part where Hillary is a foreign policy neocon and basically what used to be called a liberal Republican.

          • Pisto75666

            No manufactured scandals for Obama? Did you miss the Republicans screaming about Obama not being a US citizen for the last 8 years?

          • Grendel

            I missed where that distracted from getting things done or became the center of the national conversation outside of derision.

          • Pisto75666

            Considering it was a large part of the Tea Party movement and a movement of it’s own, it wasn’t hard to miss.

        • DoILookAmused2u ?

          Faux scandal free? lol

          Kenyan
          Fast And Furious.
          IRS handling of Tea Party con artists
          Benghazi
          Leading from Behind
          You can keep your doctor
          The JV team
          Iran!!!!
          etc, etc.

    • Serai 1

      Saying she was disliked without acknowledging that she was disliked BECAUSE OF THIRTY YEARS OF BULLSHIT LIES does absolutely nothing to answer any question. It’s just swallowing the media crap that brought us this debacle in the first place.

  • AnOuthouse
    • nightmoth

      Allow me to argue with it, then. I do not live in a liberal urban area. Quite the opposite. I associate daily with these vaunted working class stiffs. Some are my cousins. They do not value education or knowledge. They couldn’t wait to get out of high school so they could get a “real job” operating machinery. They resent blacks or women or even other whites who have better jobs than they do. They are the children and grandchildren of the assholes my age who called me a “nigger-lover” from the time I was 9 years old. They all think they’re going to heaven because they stood up in front of a bunch of morons and said “Jesus is the Son of God.” Presto, chango, just say the magic words and you’re going to paradise while everybody else gets tortured for infinity. The Republican right has nursed these sick puppies for 50 years and now they are feral dogs who are angry and don’t know why, except that something strange might be in their territory. Sorry for the rant, but I’m tired of these think pieces appearing right now which are basically calling working class whites “noble savages.”

      • nightmoth

        One little anecdote from among many: We have a tree thinning operation in progress on our farm. One of the loggers in particular I like a lot—has a great cajun accent, loves animals, photography as a hobby—I gave him some books for his son (he’s in a custody battle with the ex). So he leaves early on election day to vote and when I ask him his choice he says, “Well I’m not voting for that damn woman any more than I did the nigger.” So, how in the holy fuck does one “reach” these people?!!!

        • Serai 1

          One doesn’t. One simply refuses to associate with them.

        • orygone

          that’s impossible, only liberals are racist. I saw that on breitbart, so its gotta be true

          • bandit

            I suggest you educate yourself about the origins of the Democratic Party . If you still align with them you are supporting racism.

          • orygone

            Man, you just don’t get it

      • JaaaaaCeeeee

        I agree that there are irredeemables.

        But the problem is that the neoliberalism for which the Clintons are icons created enough scarcity of jobs and resources, that enough people who voted twice for Obama stayed home, and enough people who voted twice for Obama voted for Trump. That is not a problem was not the irredeemables nor Bernie or third party voters, either.

  • (((Mrs. Parker’s Ghost)))

    “we can safely blame Jill Stein and Gary Johnson for the loss of Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan”

    If I find out that my brother and sister-in-law, who live in Michigan, voted for Stein as they said they would, they are dead to me. Dead. To me.

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      Blaming Stein or Johnson voters is as bogus as blaming Nader voters, when exit polls showed that Stein voters would not have voted without her on the ticket and Johnson saved some states for Hillary.

      The problem in PA, MI and WI was the voters who voted twice for Obama yet voted for Trump and stayed home.

      Blaming the voters didn’t work in 2014 despite the elite Democrats who tried to like Barney Frank, and it won’t work now, either. It might feel good like calling every Trump voter a racist instead of conned, but it won’t work. It’s part of hte reason Republicans have 69 of 99 state assemblies, the Supreme Court, the executive branch, the House of Representatives and the Senate.

  • Stulexington

    We all know who’s really to blame
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

  • YoNastyBunny

    From the WashPo article on schools responding to their students’ post-election concerns:

    “David Freligh, who teaches world history at Forrest City High School, in
    the rural farming community of Forrest City, Ark., said the election
    has raised anxiety for some students on both sides of the aisle: some
    students, for example, were fearful that Hillary Clinton would take away
    their guns.”

    Yeah… that concern is totally on par with being concerned that your family might get deported or that their gay parents may not be able to get married (or stay married), or maybe because they might not be able to use the bathroom of their appropriate gender.

    Are we really still committed to this Both Sides Bullshit?????? Really????? cheezus!!!

    • Doug Langley

      Sweet Jesus. Eight years of “Well, I’m sure Obama’s taking away my guns tomorrow!”, and after it never happened now it’s “Well, I’m sure the next one will do it!”

  • Paperless Tiger

    I agree with Bill Maher. It was a slow moving right wing coup. The media presented all the espionage, hacking, document dumps, and interventions as independent efforts by neutral parties. The fact that it all benefited the GOP was presented as a coincidence. Not likely.

    • FlownOver

      I chalk it up to an ignorant, cowardly majority – of the moment, we can hope. But as long as intelligence is devalued and attacked, we’re well and truly fucked.

      • Nastyinencinitas

        Goodbye science. Goodbye NASA. Goodbye alternative energy. Goodbye clean air and water. Goodbye fair banking. Goodbye education. Goodbye affordable health care. Goodbye safe abortions and birth control. But everybody gets a red hat!

      • Serai 1

        I chalk it up to three decades of slow, steady progress on the wingnut side, and a refusal to get interested in local politics on the liberal side. They laid the groundwork for this brick by brick, while we ignored them for the most part.

    • Serai 1

      This coup has been in motion for thirty years. This election was only the final push.

      • jwtukker

        Thirty years? Take a look at some of the players. This shit goes back to Nixon.

        • Serai 1

          Yeah, but it didn’t really take off until the politicization of the religious right in the 80’s. That’s when the whole movement to take over small local government really took hold.

          • jwtukker

            Absolutely. And let’s point out, too, that they did it very deliberately and intentionally with the goal of bending America’s agenda to theirs.

  • Red Bird
    • Serai 1

      Lost me with the purity politics at the end. I am NOT listening to any of that bullshit, no matter who it comes from.

      • Red Bird

        That guy is low key Anti-Obama. But his observations are correct in my opinion.

  • going4baroque

    Blame, well, did you know that Hillary’s campaign, two months before Trump announced his candidacy, sent the DNC this:
    (note, especially the “pied piper” strategy)

    From: mastor @ hillaryclinton.com
    To:
    The Democratic National Committee
    Re:
    2016 GOP presidential candidates
    Date: April 7, 2015

    Friends,
    This memo is intended to outline the strategy and goals a potential Hillary Clinton presidential campaign would have regarding the 2016 Republican presidential field. Clearly most of what is contained in this memo is work the DNC is already doing. This exercise is intended to put those ideas to paper.

    Our Goals & Strategy
    Our hope is that the goal of a potential HRC campaign and the DNC would be one-in-the-same: to make whomever the Republicans nominate unpalatable to a majority of the electorate. We have outlined three strategies to obtain our goal:

    1) Force all Republican candidates to lock themselves into extreme conservative positions that will hurt them in a general election;

    2) Undermine any credibility/trust Republican presidential candidates have to make inroads to our coalition or independents;

    3) Muddy the waters on any potential attack lodged against HRC.

    Operationalizing the Strategy

    Pied Piper Candidates

    There are two ways to approach the strategies mentioned above. The first is to use the field as a whole to inflict damage on itself similar to what happened to Mitt Romney in 2012.
    The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more “Pied Piper” candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party. Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to:

    • Ted Cruz
    • Donald Trump
    • Ben Carson

    We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to [take] them seriously.

    Undermining Their Message & Credibility

    Most of the more-established candidates will want to focus on building a winning general election coalition. The “Pied Pipers” of the field will mitigate this to a degree, but more will need to be done on certain candidates to undermine their credibility among our coalition (communities of color, millennials, women) and independent voters. In this regard, the goal here would be to show that they are just the same as every other GOP candidate: extremely conservative on these issues. Some examples:

    • Jeb Bush
    What to undermine: the notion he is a “moderate” or concerned about regular Americans; perceived inroads with the Latino population.
    • Marco Rubio
    What to undermine: the idea he has “fresh” ideas; his perceived appeal to Latinos
    • Scott Walker
    What to undermine: the idea he can ral y working-­‐ and middle class Americans.
    • Rand Paul
    What to undermine: the idea he is a “different” kind of Republican; his stance on the military and his appeal to millennials and communities of color.
    • Bobby Jindal
    What to undermine: his “new” ideas
    • Chris Christie
    What to undermine: he tells it like it is.

    Muddying the Waters

    As we all know, the right wing attack machine has been building its opposition research on Hillary Clinton for decades. The RNC et al has been telegraphing they are ready to attack and do so with reckless abandon. One way we can respond to these attacks is to show how they boomerang onto the Republican presidential field. The goal, then, is to have a dossier on the GOP candidates on the likely attacks HRC will face. Based on attacks that have already occurred, the areas they are highlighting:

    • Transparency & disclosure
    • Donors & associations
    • Management & business dealings

    In this regard, any information on scandals or ethical lapses on the GOP candidates would serve well. We won’t be picky.
    Again, we think our goals mirror those of the DNC. We look forward to continuing the conversation.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1120

    • Hairstrike Alpha

      Did you know Bernie snowflakes like yourself are useless dickheads as you helped elect orange Yanukovych? In other words, go fuck yourself

      • going4baroque

        I’ll help you with understanding what I posted. The campaign colluded with the DNC and their friends in the press (and other media, sure) to have the gop nominate one of their preferred gop “pied piper” candidates. You can blame Bernie’s supporters til your face goes purple, but it doesn’t change the fact of the campaign’s strategy. Best regards.

        • jwtukker

          Oh Christ, not this asshole again!

          • Serai 1

            Relentless but now silent, thanks to the block button. So glad Disqus decided to add it!

          • Mezzaluna

            Someone get Brolly Bunny, STAT!

        • Hairstrike Alpha

          Hey jackass do you think I can’t read a document? My point is you Berniebros snowflakes who voted Stein or Johnson because your feelers got hurt can fuck right off for delivering Velveeta Musollini the election. Give yourself a round of applause and own it.

          • going4baroque

            Perhaps you can read, but as I wrote above, I responded to help you UNDERSTAND, not to help you READ, you can ask someone you trust what the difference is, because I’m finished here. Have a good day

        • Serai 1

          Jesus fuck, WHAT do you think you’re accomplishing here? Fucking troll.

          Let’s block him. I’ve had enough of this entitled little dickweasel.

          BYE BYE BRO. HAVE FUN FAPPING TO YOUR REFLECTION.

          *blocks*

        • Mezzaluna

          Actually, no they didn’t really. They talked about it among themselves. Which is a thing people do when strategizing against an opponent in a campaign.
          How the DNC and Clinton fucked up is by not reminding people of what they would lose under a Trump dictatorship. The list is too long for me to type while at work, but the Iran nuclear deal being strangled in its sleep is worth a mention. So I guess we can kiss both Palestinian statehood and the nation of Israel and its neighbors good-bye.

          • JaaaaaCeeeee

            Too many coincidences include the $2 billion in free media given Trump and the Clinton campaign’s Pied Piper strategy, the planning of the media blackout and subsequent media campaign against Bernie Sanders, the scheduling of primary debates, the uncommitted super delegates committing before a single vote was cast.

            Insuring that Hillary Clinton won was the job of her biggest donors and they blew it, but the pundits will find someone else to blame and the worst Wall Streeters’, prison privatizers’, and forever war stock went up immediately.

  • ViveLaRevolution

    I look forward to 2 years of asking Trump supporters: “So, are we great YET?”

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    I look forward to starting every day with “fuck Trump right in his stupid hair” as my mantra until they deport me.

  • Constant Gardener

    Does Stein actually do anything to earn an income besides run for office and fleece the patchouli crowd? Anybody who voted for her in a swing state deserves permanent censure. I had written “deserves a neck punch” but couldn’t figure out how to do that with votes.

    • Fallulah

      Are you touched? She is a doctor for christ’s sakes.

      • alpacapunchbowl

        Yes, which means she should know better than to encourage the anti-vaxxers and is therefore a raging hypocrite. Besides, having the right kind of intelligence to get through med school does not imply that she is intelligent in other ways. She has provided us with ample evidence.
        tl;dr: go somewhere else troll

        • Fallulah

          She has stated over and over she isn’t anti-vax. She is for big pharma not screwing over the sick. Just because you want to buy into the smear campaign against her without listening to her actual words and actions on the subject doesn’t make you right. Her green new deal is highly intelligent and would have saved the environment and the economy. I am far from a troll…I just don’t engage in blind group think.

          • alpacapunchbowl

            Sure, that’s why you only show up here when your favorite idiot gets mentioned by name. I’ve read her policies, they’re unsound and even if by some miracle the greens could get them enacted, they would save neither the environment nor the economy.
            I’ve already wasted too much time on you. Buh bye.

          • Serai 1

            Loving the block button this week.

          • alpacapunchbowl

            I know, right?

          • Serai 1

            Don’t know what took Disqus so long in adding it. Trolls can be fun, but there comes a time when enough is enough.

          • Fallulah

            Aww sweetie, it will be ok, even though you can’t back that up with facts, I understand you are still licking your wounds and don’t want any meanie means disagreeing with you. Your candidate was highly highly flawed and didn’t do the work to pull in the disenfranchised vote. Mathematically speaking, 3rd parties had no effect on Trump’s win, but I know you guys need someone..ANYONE to blame other than yourselves and your flawed candidate. Once your pity party hangover is over, hopefully you can learn some lessons about principles and move forward with us, the real progressives.

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            And just how well did your candidate do? If you’re going to base “flaw” on not being able to draw in enough votes Stein has the greatest flaws of all.

          • Fallulah

            How is your candidate doing? She’s in the same position as Stein now, unable to draw in enough votes.

          • Yr. Gma

            Go away.

          • Fallulah

            Good argument.

          • bookish

            My candidate won the popular vote.

          • Fallulah

            A lot of good that did her!

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            That was my point.

          • jwtukker

            “didn’t do the work to pull in the disenfranchised vote”? Perhaps you should check the vote breakdowns if you’re interested in facts.

          • Fallulah

            Half the US population is in poverty. How many of those who the majority live in middle america voted for her? Please do enlighten me.

          • JaaaaaCeeeee

            Unfortunately, Fallulah is correct that Stein voters (who told exit pollers they wouldn’t vote for either Trump or Clinton) were not the problem.

            Those who voted twice for Obama and for Trump actually were a problem, along with those who did not vote at all.

          • Well not many can live up to the lofty standards of Jill Stein…like Jill Stien for instance

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/26/jill-stein-s-ideology-says-one-thing-her-investment-portfolio-says-another.html

            Incidentally, Jill Stein achieved NONE of her stated goals (even getting the political version of a “D-“) so it was worth the gamble for the heady euphoria of “success.”

          • alpacapunchbowl

            To echo what many here have said, “Christ, what an asshole!”

      • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

        So was Mengele. What is your point?

      • Constant Gardener

        So, you assert that she is a practicing physician? Where does she have admitting privileges? Or, are you claiming she teaches? Where does she teach?

    • Serai 1

      She was in a shitty band. Does that count?

  • pyrophilia

    AGHH

  • Nastyinencinitas

    Here’s some special nice time to wake up out of your Xanax stupor for: Darrell E. Issa v. Doug Applegate; Robert Dempsey; Doug Applegate For Congress Inc.; Does
    11/7/2016 37-2016-39144-CU-MC-CTL. Stay classy, San Diego!

    And I’d like to give a special shout-out to my friend Cheryl whose constant shrieking about Killary the War Criminal helped make us safer! You crazy Bernie Bitch. You stupid crazy Bernie Bitch who I used to look up to for your insight and intelligence. Thanks a million for maintaining your intellectual purity and moral high ground. We’re way better off now. Lose my number. Yeah, I’m bitter.

    • Sinderton

      I made my sister (who I love very much) leave my house yesterday because I am just as bitter. She voted Stein and says she’d be equally upset if Hillary were the president. They are holding grudges because we didn’t get our dream candidate. Democracy is about compromise. I just don’t understand how letting a fascist become president is a good way for people to revolt.

      • Nastyinencinitas

        They just elected President Camacho, except President Camacho is way, way smarter.

        • Sinderton

          Indeed, the idiocracy is upon us.

          • jwtukker

            Apparently, from the above comments. Perhaps you should take your “Killary” bullshit down the hall to the meeting for fuck off anonymous (second door on the right). Bless your hearts.

        • Mezzaluna

          And infinitly better looking

    • Serai 1

      It’s sad how many people who seemed smart just glugged that Kool-Aid down, isn’t it?

      • Nastyinencinitas

        I want to kick some ass about now.

    • eyelashviper

      This was out quite awhile ago, and now has REAL meaning for us all:

      http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3766/7131/original.jpg?w=600&h

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      Stein voters in exit polls said they wouldn’t have voted otherwise and Bernie voters were Hillary Clinton’s strongest group.

      Stop looking for the wrong scapegoats. Voters in PA, Mi, and WI who voted twice for Obama did not vote for Hillary Clinton.

  • Fallulah

    Stein and Johnson have special needs? Stay classy Wonkette.

    • Serai 1

      Nobody here is interested in your whiny bullshit. Take it somewhere else.

      *BLOCKS YOU*

      • Fallulah

        Sure…I am the whiny one. BAHAHAHahahahaha Lack of self-awareness much?

    • Jen B_VA

      One is a doctor who decided to pretend maybe there was something bad about vaccines just to snap up a couple votes, the other faked a heart attack on live TV because he disagreed with what someone was saying.
      Pretty special, the two of em!

      • Fallulah

        That’s a pretty disingenuous straw man you are providing there. Even if what you say about Stein were true (which it is not if you did any research at all into her words/actions) that’s the worst they have done? Johnson made fun of a woman for saying weed causes heart attacks and Stein wants more research for vaccines? Pretty sure the two main candidates are WAYYYY more “special” than that. Corruption, intelligence breaches, warmongering, racism, sexual assault…ring any bells? But let’s smack talk the totally mathematically irrelevent candidates for Hillary’s loss. RIGHT.

        • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

          Stein and Johnson are two idiots who knew they had zero chance of winning and a huge chance of taking votes from HRC thus causing Trump to become POTUS. And they don’t give a damn. There is a special place in hell for those two egotistical fucks.

          • Fallulah

            Stein and Johnson are the egotistical fucks? In comparison to Trump and Clinton? Are you saying that with a straight face? 7 million people stayed home…if Hillary had given them a reason to support her and vote for her she would have won. To blame a 3rd party for taking way votes from a highly untrustworthy middle-right democrat corportist when more people chose not to vote is so off base its nearly comical. Stein and Johnson provided the democracy a Libertarian and a progressive candidate, for you to shit on them for enriching the democratic process and giving the people something to vote for other than the corporatist warmonger Hillary or the batshit insane Trump is soooo deeply sore loserish.

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            “enriching the democratic process”
            Whether you like it or not, a third party candidate will NEVER win. All they do is draw votes away from the two main candidates. It IS a wasted vote. And you obvious deep seated hatred of HRC makes it impossible to reason with you.

        • Dissidenzz

          This has bothered me all along… let’s say Stein was pandering to anti-vaxxers by being a little cagey with her answer (and at the same time, btw, saying, and I quote, “vaccines are absolutely necessary”). How did this become the primary narrative about her campaign (“ooh, she panders to a fringe group of powerless nutcases”), when Hillary’s response to Dakota Access was “I hope we find a solution that serves the broader public interest”, which, correct me if I’m wrong, sounds an awful lot like pandering to the fossil fuel companies, who happen to be in the process of making the planet unlivable for humans? And yet that’s barely a blip in the narrative of the Clinton campaign. Just sayin’

          • Fallulah

            You got it.

    • doktorzoom

      You know what? On this one, you were right. On everything else, you’re being a tiresome tool. I’ll have a word with intern Dominic about your point.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • Lucas Foxx

    Aliens. Hillary promised to reveal the TRUTH! – I’m just spit-balling. I think our surprise was due to the lack of attention our media paid to the ground effort from Koch (and related) PACs to focus on the House. Those were the “unlikely voters” that weren’t polled. Once those rural voters got into the booth, they voted against Clinton as hate radio and their hateful vocal neighborhood bullies (scared) them to.

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      I loved the GOP theory that many of those polled weren’t revealing they were actually voting for Trump for fear of being accused of racism and sexism. W.T.F. does that tell you?!?!?!?

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      All these theories blaming Bernie voters (Clinton’s strongest voters) or the negligible Stein voters (who would not vote for either Trump or Clinton) or Johnson voters (who saved a couple of states for Hillary) ignore the actual problem: White voters who voted for Obama twice then voted for Trump, and voters who stayed home.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    Marmalade Hairball would be a great name for a band.

    • Mezzaluna

      Smooth Jazz?

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      Here all this time I’ve been cleaning up my cat’s hairballs with paper towels when I could have been using toast? Recycling takes on a WHOLE new meaning!

  • Swampay

    Anyone who bemoaned what a horrible candidate Clinton was doesn’t get to cry that she didn’t get elected. I’m not talking about your vote. As has been endlessly observed, your vote in many places (including here in Washington state) is a grain in a pile of rice. Washington state was never at (much) risk of going for Trump.

    I’m talking about the endless online/offline slagging of a fine candidate. “She’s a criminal, she’s dishonest, she’s a terrible human being”. No, no, and no. You helped do the work of the right wing hate machine. You helped drag down a fine candidate as effectively (if not more effectively) than the reddest necked mouth breathing racist fox news fan.

    All this public handwringing about how you couldn’t bring yourself vote for the lesser of two evils merely because you’re afraid of Trump. Well guess what, sugarplum? It’s ALWAYS about the lesser of two evils. If you find a political race between pure good and pure evil, pinch yourself awake because it’s a dream. Being afraid of Trump was a FINE, FINE reason to vote for Clinton.

    The implication that there’s some moral scale of evil where Clinton is a 9 and Trump is a 10 appalls me. There is no moral scale of evil in which Trump is even orders of magnitude close to Clinton. Maybe that’s the only scale on which Trump is a true billionaire.

    Maybe Sanders could have won if he’d been nominated. I doubt it, but maybe. BUT HE DIDN’T GET NOMINATED. Maybe Abraham Lincoln could have won if he were nominated. Or Michelle Obama. Maybe Ghandi. Beyonce. THEY WEREN’T ON THE BALLOT EITHER. It was a binary choice, the lesser or the greater evil.

    Oh, but maybe politics just needs a shakeup. Maybe the system is so broken we needed this, like an old time tonic or a leeching. We have to confront the brokenness to fix it. Any history majors out there see the flaw in this logic? Let’s go full Godwin. Germany is now a much nicer place than it was before Hitler came to power. Maybe they just needed a few years of utter hell to break down the old corrupt system? How about the Cambodia? Just a wee breakdown, a restart if you will, a few years with Pol Pot to purge all the corruption?

    Sorry, I’m getting a bit far afield here.

    Here’s my main point, let me spell it out for you. If you helped drag down Clinton, if you bemoaned how terrible a candidate she was, how you struggled to decide whether to hold your nose and vote for her or reject her for being merely the lesser of two evils, congratulations. You helped defeat the lesser of two evils. Be proud of yourselves, own that. Ding dong the witch is dead. Nice job! You got half of your wish. You didn’t even have to sully your dainty white gloves voting for the lesser of two evils and on top of that you can always say “I told you so, we should have had Bernie”.

    Along the way you helped elect the greater of two evils, but that hardly matters, does it? Your purity is intact. And the witch is dead.

    Congratulations.

    If it sounds like I’m more bitter about the betrayal from within than with the idiots who actually voted for Trump, well maybe I am. I consider anyone who directly voted for him to be beyond the reach of reason. Fuck them. But you? You shoulda known better. I tried to tell you. I tried to be polite but firm. And we lost. We now have to deal with the greater of two evils. And I’m furious and I’m not going to be polite about it anymore. I really didn’t think this was possible so why risk insulting your friends? Well it’s possible, it happened, and I’m furious.

    Kiss Roe v Wade good bye. Kiss any progressiveness for LGBTQ people goodbye. Kiss economic prosperity goodbye. Kiss any progress on racial divides goodbye. Health insurance? Nein, danke! Pipelines? YES PLEASE! We probably won’t have a nuclear war! Only maybe! Progress on climate change? Yeah. Nope.

    Laughingstock. Of. The. World. Actually most of the rest of the world is probably too shocked and terrified to do much laughing. We just handed the nuclear trigger to someone with the self control of a toddler and the intelligence of a spoon.

    But you helped defeat the lesser of two evils! Good job! Be proud of yourself! Go you! Now please don’t make an ass of yourself pretending that you had nothing to do with it. Own your actions.

    • jwtukker

      Very well said. A bit far afield? I disagree. This is exactly what’s needed. We need to look honestly at what happened if we are to be effective. You’ve stated one quite succinctly. The other brutal but honest truth here is that the vote for tRump was motivated primarily by fear of declining white privilege.

      • Erala Contratista

        White privilege has been in decline at least 40-50 years. If you believe clapping your hands will allow that privilege to remain, you’ve been Disneyfied.
        Yes, we have to really begin to look at what we are trying to do in this world and then live it.
        Besides, the hidden racism, sexism homophobia, etc ad nauseum is right out in daylight now. Consider it a long lurking pustule that is now shining proudly on our national body. When it bursts, it’ll be a mess, but what a a relief in the end.

    • Serai 1

      That whole “lesser of two evils” bullshit is really just code for “not exactly what I WANT DAMMIT”. It’s childish horseshit of the worst kind.

      • Truthiness2U

        Indeed, childish as fuck. Selfish and short-sighted.

        Waaah waaah. I didn’t get everything I want, only someone who might get me 50% when they promised me 80% and not get (because Hillary couldn’t be trusted, NeoLib that she was) the 100% I totes would have gotten with my fave guy.

        Well guess what assholes, not only are you NOT going to get that 50% progress, you’ll not only get ZERO progress, lots of progress we had done, will now be all undone. And somethings like the environment, and the SCOTUS won’t just be over in 4 years.

        These selfish douchecanoes. At least people voting for Trump were vile, these nitwits were stupider, and think they’re better.

    • eyelashviper

      Thank you.

    • Kitty Smith

      As one person pointed out to this tiresome Bernie-or-Buster (who said he’d go to fucking Johnson, some fucking liberal he was) on another blog I go to, Bernie was the weaker candidate. Clinton was far better organized, and there’s little whining about the DNC that can do to fix that. Sanders held rallies, Clinton got out the vote, and she went and applied that success to the election, where she trashed Trump up until the second before the very end.

      Well, mostly he pointed out that if Sanders ever hit the general, Sanders would be DONE. As in stick a fork in him, he is done. Clinton never hit him on any of his weak points, but the Republicans would not have been so nice.

      Trump University? Hey, didn’t his wife destroy Burlington College?
      Grab Them By The Pussy? Hey, didn’t Sanders write rape fantasies?
      Girls kind of young? Hey, didn’t Sanders write about the revolution being girls disobeying their parents to have sex?

      That’s a start. And then there’s “socialism” which is still a curse word, and him being an actual Jew. I’m sure Bannon would have a field day with that. Something about the Jews taking over America. Or hell, just mention Sanders is a Jew and let the alt-right get the meaning.

      It doesn’t matter if it’s true or there’s context. Ask President Kerry.

      • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

        And Bernie was the omnipotent messiah until he conceded and told his supporters to vote for HRC then he suddenly didn’t know what he was talking about.

        • Lauren Steiner

          Yeah, because unlike you Hillbots, we liked Bernie for his policies. He was never a messiah. His slogan was “Not Me, Us.” Wheres her slogan was “I’m With Her,” like some sort of mean girl clique in high school. And when Bernie endorsed Hillary, we understood why he did it and moved on to Jill. End of story. It is YOU Hillbots who are responsible for Trump not us. We warned you.

          • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

            End of story, my ass! He told you to vote for HRC and you ignored him. You are nothing but a bunch of spoiled brats who didn’t get your way! Fuck you all the way to hell!

          • Serai 1

            Fuck off you selfish, entitled little brat.

      • Kitty Smith

        Here is the comment, if anyone wants to read it.

        http://preview.tinyurl.com/jfggjdp

      • Lauren Steiner

        You are a DISGUSTING person dredging up that tawdry crap. Yeah, the Johnson votes would have gone to Trump. How can you dispute that? Clinton was better organized? She couldn’t even get people out to vote. 5 million fewer Democrats voted in 2016 than in 2012. She couldn’t even hold the Obama voters. Fewer women, fewer Latinos, fewer blacks. Yeah, she didn’t hold rallies because NO ONE WOULD COME TO THEM. And she doesn’t like to deal with the little people. The woman hasn’t driven a freaking car for 25 years. Even her advisers wrote in the emails about how out of touch she was. She lost because she was a terrible candidate: elitist, corrupt, dishonest, untrustworthy, no ideolgy, policies all determined by committee. And this was a year for the anti-establishment, populist candidate: Trump and Bernie. And if you think your feeble little opposition research on Bernie is anything that wouldn’t be laughed off the stage by any voter in America, then I have a bridge I can sell you. Bernie Sanders won every swing state she lost. He would have beat Trump. End of story, moron.

        • Kitty Smith

          Hey, I’m just telling you what they would have brought up. There’s him praising the Ortegas and Castros, him being a part of a party that praised the Iranian Revolution during the hostage crisis, and much more.

          The thing is, we can’t prove how effective those lines of attack would be as Sanders didn’t get the nomination. But I truly believe that the moment Sanders hit the general he would have been destroyed. I agree with his issues as well. But it would not have been about the issues. Trump did not run on the issues. He ran pandering to the white supremacist crowd.

          And well, economic inequality doesn’t cause the racist shit that’s been coming up.

        • Serai 1

          FFS, you idiot. THE GOP WOULD HAVE DRAGGED THAT SHIT OUT FOR THE WORLD TO SEE. What, you think Fox News wouldn’t have CROWED that shit from the rooftops? And in what universe is a candidate that calls himself a socialist EVER going to be President of the United States? WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF DRUGS ARE YOU ON???

          You’re a selfish little brat that thinks the entire world revolves around you. Well, be happy, you little shit. YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED. You got your little moral victory. Of course, you WON’T get healthcare. You WON’T get good paying job. You WON’T get any help at all when you grow old. You WON’T get safety, or clean water, or clean air, or even A FUCKING PLANET TO LEAVE TO YOUR KIDS. But hey, you scored your pissy little points. Be happy breathing sludge and having your balls shrivel up into rancid little raisins from the pollution and the radiation from the goddamn WARS your shitty little tantrum caused. Mocoso.

          • Lauren Steiner

            Wow. I think you’d better tell your doctor to up your meds. They’re obviously not working anymore. LOL! And it’s so pathetic that you spew your bile under some anonymous fake name. At least I have the balls to use my real name. You probably do nothing but troll these websites all day long because you have no life. As I said- pathetic.

          • Serai 1

            Fuck you, you selfish little twat. When YOU come whining around about some asshole tried to rip your blouse off because TRUMP SAID IT WAS OKAY, you’ll see how much fucking help you get then. You little shits have buried this country, but hey. YOU GOT TO LOOK GOOD ON TWITTER, RIGHT? Your grandkids will swim in a soup of poisonous air and water, but hey YOU GOT TO MAKE YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE PROTEST VOTE, RIGHT? Women will lose a CENTURY of victories, but hey YOU GET TO FEEL SPECIAL, RIGHT SNOWFLAKE?

            FUCK YOU is all you’re gonna get, Princess. And believe me, WE’RE THE ONES LAUGHING.

            Bye, bye, Princess! Have fun with the rapists!

            *BLOCKS*

    • Jerry Noneofyourbizz

      Thank you for putting in writing all the raving rants that have been going through my mind the last 48 hours!

    • lroom

      Thank you.

    • This, so much. Thank you.

    • jmk

      Yes, thank you. You said it much more clearly than I’ve been able to do. Well done.

    • Politifact

      “Kiss Roe v Wade good bye. Kiss any progressiveness for LGBTQ people goodbye. Kiss economic prosperity goodbye. Kiss any progress on racial divides goodbye. Health insurance? Nein, danke! Pipelines? YES PLEASE! We probably won’t have a nuclear war! Only maybe! Progress on climate change? Yeah. Nope.”

      We rate Swampay’s comment: too true.

      Agreed. Fully. This presidency is going to be painful in a very real way for a lot of people.

      Dreamers should be worried. Anyone who has Obamacare thanks to the ACA should be worried (particularly if you are using govt subsidies or the Medicaid expansion.) Paul Ryan’s tax plan calls for tax cuts to the rich paid for by cuts to “non-defense discretionary spending” which is fancy liberal language for housing and nutritional programs for the poor, so anyone utilizing that should be worried. Have a government job, even something that seems important like “U.S. Department of Education”?– yeah, expect firings and pay freezes.

      Everyone who blasted Hillary as the lesser of two evils: what’s it like to have such extreme privilege that you can vote however you damn want without worrying about actual consequences?
      Well, your fun’s over, because Trump’s unwinding of banking regulations, undoubted foreign policy bungles, and possible U.S. debt defaults with erode your savings and make you feel some of the fun squeeze too.

    • JaaaaaCeeeee

      Ranting about snowflakes or whoever sugarplums are, weirdos and anyone who does not think Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person who ever ran for the presidency. Ranting at unicorns (the only Bernie supporters in for profit media were the vanishingly few Bernie-or-busters). Telling anyone criticizing Clinton that they are are exploiting white privilege (including women, poc and black women in FL). Saying that criticizing Clinton elects Trump’s success…All this is what we know doesn’t work, after a year of pounding that message at David Brock’s and other liberal blogs, and it won’t work now, either, any better than when Barney Frank blamed the voters for 2014.

      I know why pundits are still doing it, to blame shift away from the problem that Hillary Clinton lost PA, Wi and MI because of voters who voted twice for Obama voting for Trump or not at all.

      Jill Stein (whose voters said they wouldn’t have voted for any but her) and Gary Johnson (who saved Clinton a state or two) are nothing compared to the Obama voters Clinton lost, but Rachel Maddow and CNN have been claiming they would have voted for Hillary Clinton, and they’re the ones to blame. It’s not the problem and the lost Obama voters say so. This is like their claims that Bernie Sanders is worse for people of color and women, it’s just misleading spin.

      Why ignore President Obama’s support for TPP, with Clinton’s long time support guaranteeing that voters didn’t believe her (or Democratic elites, after passing Nafta and favored nation status for China, couldn’t come up with better than “unintended consequences”, promises of retraining that doesn’t create jobs and even that the jobs are already gone, so TPP won’t kill as many)? It’s not fair to blame only the Democrats who got Nafta and favored nation status over the line, but Trump knew he could blame them while lying that he’s not just another neoliberal, Wall Street, movement conservative.

      Bernie voters were Clinton’s strongest demo which you ignore. The people you are ranting about, who think Clinton is a 9 and Trump a 10 on the evil scale, the too-pure-to-vote-Clinton, the Bern-it-all down-ers, the Molotov cocktail throwers,and the kill the witch people? These are a negligibly tiny few progressives (however loud on the internet) and Republicans.

      At least first blame the neoliberals and neocons in the Democratic party who abandoned the working class, with the help of our consolidated, corporate media, who saw the chance to make $$ off the Clinton campaign’s Pied Piper strategy and then who saw a chance to make a little more $$ off the horse race, when they though Clinton had the election in the bag. At least blame the people with the power, communications power and $$ first.

      • Serai 1

        Nope. Not gonna go easy on the entitled brats who sat out the election in a fit of pique because THEY GOT CHERRY WHEN THEY WANTED CHOCOLATE. Sorry, child. You don’t get to weasel out of this one. Sure, all those other reasons are true. But the fact is:

        YOU DIDN’T HELP.

        You could have thrown in your lot and helped the country escape this monster. BUT YOU DIDN’T. You HAD to make your sour little point, and now we’re fucked.

        SORRY, NO COOKIE FOR YOU. But definitely a lot of poverty, misery, violence, and probably a sad, bad old age. That’s what your little scruples have brought you, and all of us. Thanks for the sour persimmons, cousin.

        No one here is interested in your rants. Go tell it to Jill, I hear she’s got free time now. *BLOCKS*

        • JaaaaaCeeeee

          Do you have any idea what bipartisan trade pacts (not your old fashioned trade pacts to reduce barriers to trade and get developing countries, not us, to have a trade deficit so they, you know, develop) have done to developing countries to stop developing?

          Or more relevantly to Clinton’s failed campaign, how they, financial deregulation and too much concern with boosting the incomes of big donors at worker expense left communities in the states that lost her the election? Do you have any idea how this worked with a campaign that assumed these states were blue (Clinton never even went to WI)? How a campaign that promised continuity and incrementalism sounds to those desperate for change?

          It was something to see the North East after the mills went south to save on labor. Have you seen the results of Nafta and most favored nation status with China, how race to the bottom labor policy affected not just workers here, but communities? Are you aware that the Koch brothers have spent years trying to turn the rust belt that failed Clinton red, and succeeded?

          Are you really going to stick with the argument that the workers in these states are just “entitled brats who sat out the election in a fit of pique”.

          Call me a child, a weasel, a ranter who just has to make her sour little points who fucked the world, get no cookie and caused the horrors to come. I voted for Clinton and got others to do so. I worry that it’s your own rant that is pretty sour blame shifting.

  • Serai 1

    Let’s not piss on Justin and Nieto. They have to look out for their people now that they’re living next door to a trigger-happy con artist. Let’s just hope they’re both good at talking the lunatic down from the clock tower, or their countries could be just as fucked as us. Being officially polite is really the only thing they can do if they don’t want a big fucking war to be the first thing that happens January 21st.

  • Mezzaluna

    Here’s a nice thing: An Open Letter from Leslie Knope on the Election
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/parks-and-recreation-leslie-knope-writes-letter-to-america-following-donald-trumps-victory-142904267.html
    go read it, you’ll be glad you did.

  • jwtukker

    What we really need to bring about change is for everyone to be yourself
    with authenticity and integrity. Sure, let’s talk about how to make
    inroads in the political arena and where we can use civil disobedience
    effectively. But what’s really going to make a difference is people
    living that change in a million ways in a million situations on a daily
    basis. What we are talking about is freedom and equality, put simply. So
    we need to reflect that in all our everyday actions and interactions.
    Stand up. Don’t let it slide this time. Tell them “Hey,no!” when they
    try to carry on in all the ways they’ve gotten away with until now, from
    all the small and large misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, racist,
    marginalizing bullshit they find acceptable.

    The other thing that will bring about the desired change is simply social progress. A primary influence on this election was the divide between those embracing the far-reaching changes in our beliefs and ideas on social issues and those rejecting them. But progress has an energy of its own. It can be affected but it cannot be stopped. Take a look at the last 50 years. It’s gonna happen. Let’s help it along.

    (getting down off soapbox)

    • Serai 1

      Dude, that social progress isn’t going anywhere without POLITICAL ACTION. I’m sorry, but I’ve been listening to New Agey “live your dream” and “be authentic” crap since the 80’s. I’m not interested in being distracted like that anymore, and I hope others aren’t, as well. The answer isn’t to live nice – the answer is to CHANGE THINGS. And happy people rarely change anything.

      • jwtukker

        Not saying live nice! You misunderstood me. I’m for being rude about it! I’m for being in their faces and confronting their bullshit every time we see it to let them know it’s over. I’m for letting them know that we happen to be the majority and their day is done and gone and the rest of us aren’t gonna take it anymore. Fuck nice!

        • Serai 1

          Actually, my family gets mad at me because I’m the kind of person that DOES do those things. I’m always hearing “don’t get involved” and “you’ll get in trouble”. FUCK THAT. I’ve been a hellion all my life, thanks. That’s precisely why that “live good is the best revenge” stuff gets to me. As if the wingnuts care. All they care about is oppressing others.

          Don’t make assumptions about whether people are helpful in a bad situation. You’d be surprised at how many people will step up when things get bad.

          • jwtukker

            Ok, so that’s twice that you have made assumptions about what I was saying even though I’ve tried to clarify it. Seems you are the one making all kinds of assumptions. As far as people stepping up, that has not been my experience. Finally, if you categorize everyone who voted for that guy as wingnuts you have missed the point. These are the people we need to convert to reclaim our country. And a lot of them will actually be easy when that guy’s bullshit falls apart, as it will.

            And BTW, my entire family disowned me half a lifetime ago for my radical ideas. Won’t even acknowledge I exist to this day.

          • Serai 1

            See, I didn’t MAKE THE ASSUMPTION that you were a self-satisfied asshat. All I did was tell you I WASN’T ONE. Whatever, dude.

          • jwtukker

            Nice. The one safe place I’ve been able to count on. I’m gonna go take a walk. Just don’t need this.

    • Erala Contratista

      Well, let’s face it, fundamentally we have only control over ourselves. This manifesto is right on and it is the hardest thing to do. We need to nurture our own courage and do what needs to be done. I grew up with political action 24/7 in the 60s and 70s, and so much of it was just more authoritarian hogwash, left and right. I’m well tired of being told if I’d just do this or follow that everything will be great. Makes me a lousy cult member.

      Speak up, be courteous (assholery is counterproductive), and pay attention.

      Many thanks jwtukker

  • Yuengling

    I have just spent much of the morning watching MSNBC falling over themselves to get even the tiniest shot of Trump or his family as they visit the White House and then the Capitol. Then I realized what the media’s real problem with Trump is. Trump is the abusive boyfriend and the media is his girlfriend. He doesn’t PHYSICALLY abuse her. He just makes her feel bad about herself and pushes her away. That makes her want him ALL the more. Because MSNBC doesn’t have any self esteem and doesn’t have the sense to punch him in the dick and leave.

  • guppy06

    Journalists (real journalists, not fake teevee talking heads) aren’t just worrying about being laid off and having to teach at community colleges

    You want Editrix to fire you, don’t you?

  • guppy06

    More Good News! California, Nevada, and Massachusetts voted to legalize recreational marijuana,

    For the umpteenth time, it doesn’t matter any more. Rudy Giuliani made his career out of arresting people for simple possession. As Attorney General, he is not going to let federal marijuana laws go unenforced any longer.

    • Serai 1

      With over half the states having it legal now, that’s going to be a tough job. He doesn’t have either the manpower or the budget to conduct raids in over half the country, or police the population.

  • Scrofula

    Sam Bee says white people have to own this. So I, as a bawling somewhat straight white guy with blondish hair and blue eyes, what the fuck am I supposed to do? Seriously, I don’t know what to do. 800-273-8255

    • Serai 1

      Donate to good causes. Volunteer. Watch people’s backs for them. Carry a camera, or make sure your phone’s camera is working. DOCUMENT ANYTIME YOU SEE AN INCIDENT, and post it online. Keep your eyes open and be a guard for anyone who might be at risk. There’s a LOT we can do.

      We can’t depend on the government any more. We have to do this ourselves now.

  • Michael Loraine

    There is no “good news”. This was a fascist takeover of America. Mussolini and Hitler were both “elected” just like Trump.So get ready to say “Heil Trump” and watch out for the GESTAPO, because they will be coming for you, and me, and

  • bookish

    That is one of the most beautiful animals I’ve ever seen. This election has broken my fucking heart.

  • Paperless Tiger

    I still remember my dad, an Eisenhower Democrat, calling me all excited to tell me to listen to the inauguration speech of President George W. Bush. For my part, I already knew what Bush would do. He would wreck the economy. As a union worker, I would face worse wages and working conditions, because we all know those union guys get paid too much, which is bad for the economy. I don’t pretend to be a prophet, because it got much worse than I imagined. I got fired, blacklisted, and wandered from job to job becoming almost a migrant. Of course, by the time Bush left office, my dad was just as disgusted with Bush as I was that first day.

  • Bill Slider

    It’s never too early to start the next war when you lost the last one. Who are the Democrats going to rally around for 2020 that will be below age 60 and doesn’t use Email?

  • Lauren Steiner

    Are you freaking crazy with your comment about third parties? Jill Stein got 1% and Gary Johnson got 2%. The MSNBC article you link to states the preposterous statement that if all of Stein’s voters and half of Johnson’s voters went to Hillary, she would have won those states. Why in the world would Johnson voters vote for Hillary? They are Libertarian. How stupid are you that you don’t realize that Libertarians have mostly Republican leanings. They would have voted for Trump not Hillary? Actually Johnson being on the ballot saved Hillary from losing even more swing states. Here is the data. She got CO, MN, NH and NV because Johnson was on the ballot. Some Wonkette you are. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10MvGMJucqIcPwlamq226dGnUDfjbgbUoj60a14hJUHY/mobilebasic

    • MissNomer

      ^^^Jill Stein voter^^^

      Here’s The Proof That Jill Stein And Gary Johnson Cost Hillary Clinton The Election
      http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/09/proof-jill-stein-gary-johnson-cost-hillary-clinton-election.html

      • Lauren Steiner

        I addressed that, genius. That is the article I was referring to posted on the Maddow Blog. Did you even read it? It said Jill Stein plus half the Johnson voters. Read my comment thoroughly before you make another ignorant reply.

        • RoniOh

          You Tofu Barbie supporters have a lot to answer for, ignorance doesn’t even come close.
          Happy Whooping Cough Day!!

          • Ralph Dudley

            I wouldn’t have voted for either… Liberals suck… and before you get all uppity, look at the ACTUAL definition of liberalism, both democrats and republicans are liberals, just with different weights toward one aspect or another. If people were actually interested in the country advancing instead of falling behind, they’d go further left. Jill Stein wasn’t a perfect candidate but at least she was only mildly a liberal.

        • Serai 1

          Christ, this little pissant again. Go lick your Queen’s wounds, you quisling. And try not to cry too much when some asshole grabs you because Trump is president now. After all, you bought this for all of us!

      • Serai 1

        That meanspirited little brat is never going to admit what she did. But she’ll cry buckets when her rights are ripped away and she has to eat catfood under a bridge when she’s old, like the rest of us.

    • Serai 1

      Nice attempt to bury the fact that YOU IDIOTS SAT OUT the election in droves. We’re not that stupid, kiddo.

  • going4baroque

    CNN Democratic Town Hall in Columbus, Ohio
    Mar 14, 2016 – the day Hillary lost Ohio and Pennsylvania

    Audience question: Make the case to poor whites who vote Republican why they should vote for you and your economic policies

    “We Are Going To Put A Lot Of Coal Miners & Coal Companies Out Of Business. Right, Tim?”
    (smart power)
    https://youtu.be/ksIXqxpQNt0

  • See, that’s what’s so weird! Outside the “death penalty” stuff, the voting went “fine” here in California, with many of the propositions and candidates I supported passing. It’s like, “they” want Trump…but also Tammy Duckworth? And other intellegent women we’ve elected to the senate? (And sorry, our countery decided to needlessly burden you, ladies . but y’all are going to end up pressed into service very, very quickly, so I hope you’re prepared for some work.)

    • Serai 1

      Yes, yes, and yes. You don’t get the underlying event – it wasn’t liberal causes or even any of the other liberal candidates that people rejected. They rejected Hillary. THAT is what happened. It was MAKE SURE THE BITCH DOESN’T WIN. That’s why so many other liberal people and causes won. Because it was never about anything she SAID. It was purely about the stupid wingnut mythology that was built around her. Hateful fuckers being hateful, and dumbass sheep believing them.

  • Jack

    At least weed is going to be legal.

    Hillary lost this race and she had all the help in the world from the DNC machine. But she lost it by a slim margin. She has to apologize for not being a strong enough candidate to draw in more votes. ~56% of registered voters turned out nation wide. Calif was even worse and she won here. But states that used the “Cross Check” system all went to Trump.

    Blame these fuckers in Ohio who suppressed the vote and bragged about it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LF0830IYMU

    • Serai 1

      At least weed is going to be legal.

      Not for very long, not if those fuckers can help it. They’ll be working from day one to take that away, too.

  • Ralph Dudley

    Yeah the Jill Stein and Gary Johnson voters should have voted for Hillary… instead of what they actually you know, believed in. I don’t protest vote, protest voting is not voting. So basically, fuck you.

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