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A great week for freedom-loving gun humpers in Missouri, where Republicans in the state legislature used a clever parliamentary maneuver to kill a Democratic filibuster, then voted overwhelmingly to override Gov. Jay Nixon’s veto of a bill that loosens Missouri’s already generous concealed-carry law. Now Missourians will no longer need a permit to carry a concealed weapon, hurrah! Also, the bill enacts a “stand your ground” provision that lets you shoot anyone who scares you enough, and reduces the penalty for carrying a firearm into a building where guns aren’t allowed from a felony to a misdemeanor. Still sounds pretty tyrannical, since there’s any penalty at all, not to mention some buildings where guns might be prohibited.

Under the oppressive, tyranny-filled old version of the law, Missouri had a “must issue” concealed carry permitting process: Applicants had to complete a gun safety class, pass a criminal background check, and not have been declared mentally incompetent within the last five years. The new law gets rid of those oppressive regulations, for freedom!

Gov. Nixon had vetoed the bill because he is a big pussy who hates America, and also

because he said it would allow “individuals to legally carry a concealed firearm even though they have been or would be denied a permit because their background check revealed criminal offenses or caused the sheriff to believe they posed a danger.”

Joining Nixon in opposing the bill were groups representing law enforcement officers around the state, such as the Missouri Police Chiefs Association, along with the state’s four Catholic bishops.

Cops and bishops: the usual enemies of freedom. How were Missourians supposed to fight off a tyrannical government if they could be kept from having a concealed weapon simply by being a criminal, or not knowing how to use their weapon?

The newly enacted law will also allow an expansion of the “castle doctrine,” so invited guests in a home would be allowed to use deadly force on intruders. This only makes sense, because why should homeowners bear the sole burden of gunning down a teenager slipping back into her house at 1 AM after sneaking out to see her boyfriend?

Supporters of unlicensed concealed carry insist it will make everyone safer, because more people will be able to defend themselves against bad guys. This would appear to contradict a study of Missouri gun laws which assessed the impact of a previous law deregulating gun ownership:

Gun-control advocates point to a study of Missouri gun laws by Daniel Webster, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

In 2007, Missouri lawmakers repealed a requirement that any purchaser of a handgun, whether from a licensed or unlicensed dealer, obtain a permit from the local sheriff. Webster’s study concluded that change contributed to an increase in the state’s murder and suicide rates.

Despite that evidence, Missouri legislators have continued to make guns more widely available, prohibiting municipal governments from restricting concealed carry and lowering the age required to carry a concealed weapon to 19.

In one beautiful quirk of the new law, weirdos who still want to get a permit for concealed carry will no longer have to renew their permits — such permits as the state issues will now have no expiration date. Why even bother with a permit? Obviously, so you can travel with your lethal pal to one of the many states which now recognize other states’ concealed carry permits as valid.

Sissies who worry that the new law will result in more shootings are advised to man up, ignore that study correlating wider availability with more homicides and suicides, and if they don’t like it, go move to fucking CANADA, you goddamned socialist.

A separate bill changing Missouri’s motto to “Load up on guns and bring your friends” will be introduced in the next legislative session.

[Kansas City Star via Charlie Pierce / Kansas City Star]

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  • RobKanC

    They should rename the entire constitution as second amendment. Every white person is required to carry a gun at all times.

    • (((JustPixelz)))

      “second amendment”? You mean “The Amendment”. Also, only the second half counts.

    • therblig

      even the wimminfolk? what about when they’re, you know, out of their whatevers?

      • RobKanC

        HAhaha. Like a woman is a person. *snort*.

  • Spotts1701

    So Missouri’s going from the “Show Me” State to the “Make My Day” State.
    Maybe Abe Simpson was right.

    • BoatOfVelociraptors

      You beat me to it!

  • (((JustPixelz)))

    Missouri’s gun law should be the model for how we vet incoming refugees.

  • Deplorable Ron

    Bet you a cookie one of the buildings that doesn’t permit concealed-carry is the state house.

  • h4rr4r

    To be fair, cops and bishops usually are opponents of freedom. They being correct here is more a matter of a stopped clock being correct twice a day.

  • Jennifer R

    Ban all guns.

  • elviouslyqueer

    New state motto: “The Shoot Me State.” (And yes, Spotts1701, I saw your comment, which wasn’t allowed anyway.)

    • therblig

      damn, got to be quicker on the draw around here

      • elviouslyqueer

        That’s what the MO Lege said.

        • therblig

          MO guns = MO freedom

          • elviouslyqueer

            *golf clap*

      • Ikimizi

        Your comment may have been second, but if you can amend it bit, people may hardly remember the first.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        It’s very time-consuming to get a commenting license on Wonkette.

        • therblig

          but i’m snarky now…

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Goddam regulations!

  • therblig

    so, missouri is now the “Shoot Me” state?

  • BMW

    Glad to know the odds of me being shot to death just sky-rocketed.

  • whitroth

    Wonder when someone who’s loved one was shot by a gun humper will buy a gun, and unload on the statehouse.

    Or, for that matter, when there’ll be a gun duel in the legislature, between ammosexual GOP legislators.

    • Celtic_GnomePlorable

      Like they’d allow guns in the statehouse.

  • Señor Skwerl

    Well, looks like Missouri is no longer a “Show me State!”

  • baconzgood

    Is this part of “blue lives matter” that these dudes yammer about? If so they’re doing it wrong.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      Well, you gotta remember this doesn’t apply to black dudes in North St. Louis or the outlying cities around St. Louis.

  • Vecchiojohn

    Most gun ranges won’t let you waltz in with a six-shooter tucked in your shorts. Jesus fuck me Christ.

    http://www.theplacetoshoot.com/rules/

    Excerpt:

    GUNS IN CASES, BAGS OR BOXES WHEN YOU COME IN THE DOOR
    When I was a kid a couple of stores in town had a sign outside door that read “remove ski masks and unload your guns.” and I think they were serious. At TPTS walking in the door with a gun in your hand is a safety concern. So, when you come in all guns need to be in cases until you get out on the range and in your assigned shooting booth. Then you can take your gun out, point it down range and in your assigned shooting booth. There is no gun handling in the lobby or while on the range outside of the shooting booth.

    • Señor Skwerl

      Gun control monsters!

  • Blacktop Cadence

    Well, this will make going to Ted Drewes awkward.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Ha ha! You made me laugh, which is a miracle cause I live in Missouri.

  • Blanche Beecham

    I am so very happy to be on the east side of the Mississippi. No MO Insanity.

    • Left Coast Tom

      I’m happy to be on the west side of the Von Schmidt Line – as far from MO as I can be without swimming in the rather cold North Pacific.

  • Hey now, don’t move to Canada too quickly, a jackass doctor up here is suing the government to try to turn our system into more of an American style “only the wealthy get treatment” free-for-all.

    • Señor Skwerl

      Well, you can always go to the emergency room!

    • weejee
      • Nuclear fallout doesn’t respect borders, so we’re sorta worried up here as well…

        • Eh, I’m pretty sure that Donnie won’t nuke Florida for making him feel inadequate in his trousers, but… you might want to make plans to evacuate to Australia all the same.

          • weejee

            My bride and already have tickets to New Zealand in mid-November for an engineering conference. If tRump wins we may stay and become servants for my college mentor and his wife who are now retired in the Bay of Plenty.

          • Antonin Dvorak

            He has a house here, so he may spare us so not ruin his gold leaf.

          • hendenburg2

            And his precious clubs

    • Deplorable Ron

      Oh, right, him.
      Listen, Doc, if you want to be an American-style doctor I give you permission to move to the US. I’ll even help you pack. (I won’t help him pack.)

  • weejee

    Hold your fire until you can see the whites of their lies.

    • Michael Smith

      Missouri: *Hold your fire until you can see the whites and know they are out of the line of fire.

  • Michael Smith

    Its so nice to see that the Missouri legislature wants to ensure that the people of Ferguson can protect themselves!

  • Scooby

    Artemis and shoot the intruder parties will be all the rage.

    • mtn_philosoph

      “WARNING: Do Not Show Up For The Party Late!”

  • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

    Sooooo…we’re easing restrictions on guns, which are dangerous and result in dead people. We’re doing away with the FDA, so people can die more frequently from preventable food borne illness. We’re cracking down on women’s right to choose, which will result in dead women, and that’s because we’re pro-life. PRO-LIFE!

    • Michael Smith

      America 2016: Jesus Take the Wheel

      • The Deplorable Ms. MLG

        Gah!! Damn that cornpone Barbie straight to hell for that song!

        • hendenburg2

          I dunno, Kristen Chenoweth leading a gospel choir singing it in “Good Christian Bitches” was darkly funny.

      • Shibusa

        https://sizzle.af/i/2374243
        I couldn’t get the picture to post but it’s funny!

        • Michael Smith

          haha

        • Angela Ruzzo

          That made me sad.

      • Deplorable Ron

        Why would anyone think he knows how to drive?

    • Cranky Man

      Actually they are really just pro oligarchy, for now. Eventually they’ll want to go full fascism. Even idiot republicans know better than to say that out loud, all they come close sometimes.

    • folderol

      You make it sound like it’s a bad thing.

  • So, I’ll just add them to the list for places that we really need to build a wall around and make them pay for it.

    Texas… Florida… and Missouri.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      Just, uh, make a door with a key. My endo is in St. Louis. :-D

    • shastakoala

      In theory the U S will soon resemble a maze.

      • therblig

        “Who Moved My Government Cheese?”

      • CynicalOptimist

        Soon??

    • JohnBull

      And Iowa. Although a wall wouldn’t do much good because it’s the assholes who stay around and the talented ones leave.

    • BMW

      Missouri: At least we’re not Texas.

      • Jukesgrrl

        But yer gettin there.

  • memzilla

    It’s almost as if Rethuglicans have a checklist for “How Can We Make Living In This Country More Terrible” for each and every state.

    • doktorzoom

      It’s called ALEC.

      • Shibusa

        Missouri: Show Me The Money State.

        • Tammyrmosby2

          Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !sr343f:
          On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
          !sr343f:
          ➽➽
          ➽➽;➽➽ http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash643TopBrokerGetPay$97Hour ★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★::::::!sr343f:….,……

        • Carollgmiller3

          Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !st312f:
          On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
          !st312f:
          ➽➽
          ➽➽;➽➽ http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash612ShopPremiumGetPay$97Hour ★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★::::::!st312f:….,…..

        • Sakonyachen

          Quickly turning into the “We have no money” state. The corporates seem to keep asking for more giveaways. Who saw that coming?

    • JohnBull

      At least they haven’t banned international travel.

      • Spotts1701

        If Trump wins, they won’t have to. No one will let us in.

        • georgiaburning

          Fidel lives long enough for a last laugh- Americans trying to escape to Cuba in tiny boats

          • Sakonyachen

            We will be lucky if there are doors left to float on.

  • JohnBull

    Does this mean Ferguson residents can open carry, too? Guess nobody thought that through.

    • Blacktop Cadence

      This doesn’t apply to black people, silly. Particularly the ones in and around St. Louis.

    • Alan

      Silly you. Police will just shoot the bad guys with guns.

    • SnarkOff

      What could possibly go wrong?

    • MrCanoehead

      I think they could already open carry. They can conceal-carry now. Which means a cop doesn’t even need to say “I saw a weapon,” just “He was reaching for a weapon (and turned out to be his ID or whatever).”

  • Poly_Ester

    This appears to be good news for highly armed, paranoid white people, but for others it will probably still be shoot first and make up excuses later for the cops.

    • willi0000000

      unless (s)he’s whiter than you, who needs excuses?

  • SnarkOff

    Missouri: The Show Me Where You’ve Concealed Your Gun State

  • Antonin Dvorak

    Missouri Democratic Senate nominee, Jason Kander, on background checks:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wqOApBLPio

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    At least anime gun girl is easier on the eyes than nekkid gun guy. Also too, we know where she conceals her gun…

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1122257/thumbs/o-GUN-BRA-570.jpg?1

    • cousin itt

      Worst motorboating pic ever.

    • Jeffocaster in the desert

      You’ll shoot your boob off kid!

    • Left Coast Tom

      Are purchasers of this…thing…supposed to just walk around with nothing but their bra on, or has Eddie the Eagle suddenly decided that having women rip off shirts/blouses/dresses before retrieving their gun is consistent with gun safety?

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        I’ not sure how Eddie EAgle feels about it, but I’m all for having teh wimmens rip their shirts off…

        • Celtic_GnomePlorable

          You’d certainly be able to get the drop on the “bad” guy.

  • Parchment Scroll

    Gotta love the logic:
    “So glad I can carry concealed. We might run into brown people!”
    “Yeah, I’m fine without a gun, though.”
    “Pussy!”

  • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

    I’m not even gonna scroll downwardlike. I hereby declare this Friday end-of-week sexxytime.

    Thanks, Obama. And Dok.

    • anwisok

      Evan kicked of a danceparty just now.

      • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

        Hey, wow. I’m a trendsetter. Do you I have to put my pants back on to change rooms?

        • anwisok

          You’ll just have to take them back off when you get there. *shrug*

  • cousin itt

    Mutually Assured Derpstruction

  • The Wanderer
  • mancitytacotrucks

    if I remember right–and I was living in MO at the time, but I’ve slept since then–they originally put concealed carry up for a vote and it was killed, with actual votes. but they enacted it anyway claiming it was all because KC and St Louis voted against it.
    it was inferred about their large blah populations.

    • mancitytacotrucks

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Proposition_B_(1999)
      “Proposition B gained 634,361 votes in favor (48.3%) and 678,256 votes against (51.7%), thus being defeated by a margin of 3.3%.[14]

      The majority of voters in rural Missouri voted in favor of Proposition B. However, urban voters, particularly in St. Louis and Kansas City, tipped the balance against Proposition B. 74.1% of the voters in the city of St. Louis, 69.5% in St. Louis County, and 71.6% in Kansas City opposed Proposition B.[14]

      In 2003, after ignoring the results of Proposition B, the Missouri General Assembly passed new laws to enable shall-issue permits.[2]”

    • baconzgood

      Why should people who live in more populous areas have their vote count as much as people in Farm country..

      • MrCanoehead

        One acre, one vote.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      You remember correctly.

  • Mpeg

    It’s like a horrible “But wait, there’s more!” viral ad gimmick.

    From the original commercial in 1980:

    “You get the Ginsu knife!
    …A matching fork — to make carving a pleasure!
    …This six-in-one kitchen Tool — peels, slices, grates!
    … Six Precision Steak Knives; and,
    this unique Spiral Slicer!”

    Now, Missouri; now How Much Will You Pay.

  • Shibusa
    • mancitytacotrucks

      oh yeah? well…crap

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Our gunz are sacred.

    Lives of people? Especially people of color? Not so much.

  • Antonin Dvorak

    Before anyone says, “Your move Florida”, I’d like to point out that there was multiple bills in Tally legalizing concealed carry, including on college campuses; and our senate GOPers actually quietly made them go away because it was a bridge too far.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Well, when you’ve already crossed the Elbe with “Stand Your Ground”, a bridge in Arnhem seems to be rather superfluous.

  • baconzgood

    I feel we should approach guns differently like the right did with abortion (closing clinics for “safety”) and bigotry (calling not serving people “religious liberty”).

    We shouldn’t try to get rid of guns but make bullets non leathal. No one could argue for safer bullets. Or maybe not have gun powder in them so it doesn’t hurt people’s ears as much.

    • Antonin Dvorak

      Gun shops owners need admitting privileges or a janitor’s closet of a minimum size.

      • Odd Jørgensen

        And doors that can accommodate EMT workers gurneys and have a roof to make sure they don`t get rained on. Outside. And doublewide hallways. For passing gurneys.

  • So, these guys know that Surviving the Game isn’t an instruction video, right?

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51zSHmZqPmL._SY445_.jpg

    • mrpuma2u

      You mean it’s not a video to show people how to run a neighborhood watch? Uh oh I have to send some emails….BRB

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Proof that not owning a gun saves lives: the continued existence of my lawyers and my ex.

    • Rick Hill

      If I carried a gun while I was driving, I swear….

  • JVisconti

    Pizza delivery guys in MO should gear up on military surplus body armor.

  • Me not sure

    Note to self : copyright new license plate motto. Missouri : “The Shoot Me State”

    • MrCanoehead

      Ya beat me to it. But at least I did the photo edit (see above).

      • Me not sure

        Infrenchmentz!!!

  • fawkedifiknow

    I really didn’t need another reason to never go to Missouri, but I now have one, anyway.

    • DainBramage

      Yep, Missouri is on the no-go list.

    • I Only Like Cats

      I pronounce it Misery for a reason.

      • Left Coast Tom

        I had a professor who was from Jefferson City, MO, who always pronounced it that way.

    • Gentle Robot

      You’re going to miss out on their sad excuse for pizza and barbecue

      • Angela Ruzzo

        You can say that again. Also the inedible pork steaks.

  • Olav_Pompatus

    Just curious …. does this apply to everyone, or just the white folks?

    • Alan

      Only the good guys. They’re white.

    • anna rampage

      Technically to everyone, but the police do reserve the right to shoot armed, or even unarmed black folks at will.

    • chazmanr

      Theoretically, all non-felons, but since MO is very good at convicting black folks to remove their voting rights, I would say it only applies to white folks.

  • Jamoche

    Laurell K Hamilton is probably creaming her britches right now. Can’t wait for this to show up in the next spork of her next book.

    • I enjoy her work. But is she going to have the heroine fuck the guns away?

      • The Witch of Endor

        More like Anita will dump everyone for a deep and abiding relationship with her Browning High Power (yes, I went there). I’m ashamed that I was able to come up with that sentence based solely on my memory.

        • I am more familiar with the Merry Gentry series. That one is all about the fucking

          • Jamoche

            So’s Anita, these days. Way back in the time of Usenet, back before she humped the shark(*), many people pitched her as “if you like Buffy, you’ll like Anita”. So I bought the most recent paperback which was a decent beach read, the hardcover came out, and – well, shark.

            (*) So far as I know, there are no were-sharks. She’s humped all the other were-critters, though.

          • The Witch of Endor

            I’m not 100% sure but I think LKH is done with writing Merry Gentry. The Anita Blake books started sounding like the Merry Gentry books about the same time LKH got a no edit clause in her contract for both series.

            And on a somewhat different note: did you read/hear about her “Dear Negative Reader” blog post?

          • Jamoche

            Oh, yeah. I love snarking Authors Behaving Badly and that one’s a classic.

          • No. I have not heard of this…

      • Jamoche

        “Away” is not the relevant term for LKH. First we’ll get a rambling blog post about how awesome it is that LKH can now carry her guns around, with much mention of how many cops she knows, then we’ll get a poor attempt at gun porn in the books.

    • The Witch of Endor

      LKH Lashouts, Amazon discussion, Satire Knight? Crimson Death is due out October 11th, I think. 700+ pages. Sporkers are buying cases of booze and asking for donations. ;)

      • Jamoche

        Haven’t seen the last one, but the first two, yeah :) I had the good luck to only have paid for the last decent Anita paperback instead of pre-ordering the first bad hardcover.

        • The Witch of Endor

          Satire Knight sporks most of the most egregious Authors with Big Heads. I believe she’s on LiveJournal. I stopped reading after Narcissus In Chains.

  • Ikimizi

    Always RSVP, people.

  • Swampgas_Man

    *Adds to the states I’m staying the hell out of*

  • cheetojeebus

    They already have the gateway framed up, we just need to hang a couple big ol’ king kong style gates.

  • Rick Hill

    Did they also have a rider to remove any extra government “giveaways” like paying for treatment of poor people who get themselves shot?

  • chazmanr

    Another state that I need to avoid? The list is getting really long. Never thought I’d feel safer in East St. Louis than in St. Louis.

  • BoatOfVelociraptors
  • TJ Barke

    Future american day wear:

    • MynameisBlarney

      Bulky, yet uncomfortable.

    • JustDon’tSayDeplorable

      It needs at least one Van Halen logo sticker

    • guppy06

      I call it “the Bomb Burqa!”

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Usually with the wonk news of rightwing shit-fuckery I can bunch my panties up in a tight nut- crunching bunch. But other times I just sigh. Maybe it’s cuz I didn’t go to bed last night. At all. But still. How gunny do these people need to be? Well. And there is no actual satisfaction in it. But between suicide, bone headed accidents and domestic killings, the gun nuts really do the heavy lifting towards killing off themselves and their ilk. And even that’s not satisfying.

  • Bitter Scribe

    So, will they be allowing guns in the Missouri legislature’s offices?

    • Angela Ruzzo

      They already do allow them there.

    • guppy06

      Why do you think they only meet on three, unannounced days of the year?

  • malsperanza

    NYT called Missouri the “Shoot Me State” today.

    I’m liking the NYT again. They also called Turnip a liar on the front page, in the headline.

    #Gettinwiththeprogramfinally

    • Mehmeisterjr

      They still have a long way to go to make up for Brooksie and Modo.

      • Left Coast Tom

        They also need to make up for their public editor, just last week, pointing to reporting in the Washington Post in an effort to defend the New York Times against charges of “both-siderism”.

      • malsperanza

        There is not enough ink in the world … on the other hand, they publish Krugman.

    • Jen B_VA

      Wow. Headline that says “Trump lies!”
      Wouldn’t it be more newsworthy at this point to find the time he told a truth?

    • MrCanoehead

      I like that slogan for their license plates.
      (Also, their favourite sitcom? “Just Shoot Me”.)

  • Hardly Ideal

    *blows an “E” on a pitch pipe*
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VMpDmH6QeY

  • BMW

    Ok…everybody list their home state so I can shit on them in return.

    • Jen B_VA

      HAWAII!!!!!
      (home state of my heart)

    • Walter Wellstone

      Nooyawk but I live in Austin.

    • Sister Artemis

      Grew up in Washington, but I’m an OREGOON GIRL for almost 3 decades now

    • Master Contrail Program

      Iowan by birth, Floridian by length of service. I hope you have some new zingers for me! Those places have been in the news a lot this year for…….reasons.

    • theblackdog

      Arizona

    • therblig

      New Jersey (curls up in proactive fetal position)

    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Chicago. (No, it’s not part of Ellinoise.)

    • Left Coast Tom

      California, for the last 3 decades. The UK’s “Brexit” vote made us the 5th largest economy in the world…

    • Alexander Stallwitz

      Illinois, I should warn you, theres not much you can say that make me more embrassed of living here

    • guppy06

      Mrln

    • Jennaratrix

      Home state is Massachusetts but I’m in Missouri now. So I’m fucked either way.

    • Arolpin

      NJ for the past 8 years. NYC for 14 years before that. I was in North Florida/Iceland/TN in the Navy. Was in MO for a couple years in college. Raised in ID, but born in CA. I’ve lived in enough places that I don’t feel bad slagging on states I’ve lived in, and traveled enough that I don’t feel bad slagging on states I haven’t lived in.
      I hope I’ve given you enough targets. ?

  • chascates

    So there’s no need for basic firearm safety training so you don’t shoot yourself, or how to defuse a dangerous encounter so it doesn’t escalate to a shooting, or even a discussion of the dangers of shooting bystanders?

    The ‘shoot me’ state is one I’ll avoid.

    • Ronald Burgess

      You mean Vermont? Vermont has had permit less concealed and open carry for over a century. Gun deaths are nearly nonexistent. Chicago is one of the most restricted cities, and they’ve had over 300 murdered this year alone.

      • JohnC44

        Couple of issues here, but common ones, sadly:

        1) You state gun deaths are “noexistent” in Vermont. How many gun deaths (actual number) were recorded and over what time frame? What is your source? As the presenter of this point it’s your burden to provide relevant data and sources to support your claim…not the readers.

        2) Your claims seem to ignore one very obvious difference between your chosen examples that calls into question their validity. How does the massive difference in population between the two places correlate with the statistic in question? What value does quoting an absolute value like you have done here have in determining anything useful in this discussion? Wouldn’t discussing per capita rates be a bit more appropriate in consideration of these differences?

        Your argument needs some work as it doesn’t make much sense as is.

      • doktorzoom

        Chicago. It’s always Chicago with you guys. But you should know better than to bring a red herring to a banhammer fight.

        — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

    • Angela Ruzzo

      “No basic firearm safety training. . .no defusing a dangerous encounter. . . no shooting bystanders”. . . Sounds like the police.

  • Ducksworthy

    Thank goodness. You know it was very difficult for fetuses to get a concealed carry permit (on account of not being actual ambulatory people) but now they don’t need one. And, as has been proven over and over again, and armed fetus is a safe fetus.

  • Now Missouri needs to pass a “Robert Ford Bill”, in honor of the brave man who felt threatened by Jesse James and shot him in the back. All gun owners need to be allowed to do this for their own safety.

  • Fartknocker

    This will add a whole new level of fan fun in Branson. Don’t like the Elvis impersonation? Cap that bitch in the ass.

  • greyXstar

    North Florida is officially less scary than another part of the country. Yeee

    • Be Gin

      Blasphemer! George Zimmerman is still alive and, by definition, wherever he is has to be considered the most dangerous spot on Earth!

      • greyXstar

        I keep thinking karma will deffos get this guy hard, and yet a guy that he started a fight against just got jail time. Sigh

        • Be Gin

          George may be laughing about it today. ****sigh****

          Tomorrow? Let’s let George keep on being George. No one with his kind of hubris fails to run afoul of divine wrath.

    • JohnC44

      As a former resident of a fine trailer community in Fanning Springs, I can say, unequivocally, no sir or madam! North Florida is scary for what you don’t see more so than what you do. Some of the people in the back country there make the characters in Deliverance seem almost cosmopolitan.

      • greyXstar

        Touché

  • azeyote

    don’t give the cashier shit – or ditch line –

  • Jen B_VA

    Question to the gun nuts: If NOBODY had the guns, would we not, by your logic, be just as safe?
    Bonus, we would not have to buy anything to keep ourselves safe!

    • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

      But then they wouldn’t get to sit alone in the dark, fondling their cold metal fetish object and spinning their dark Mittyesque fantasies about how they would blow holes in any damn nigra who broke in and tried to steal their stuff or rape their women.

      • phoenix00

        … or transgenders trying to use their bathrooms

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Sixty years ago when I was born, people had lots of guns. But they also had tight permit laws. I don’t recall hearing a single person complain about the permit laws in those days. People complained about car licenses, but never gun permits. What changed? The NRA.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Since the NRA, particularly after 1977, is really a gun manufacturers’ lobby, your “Bonus” isn’t so “bonusey” from their perspective.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        It’s actually become the official support organization for wingnut preppers and “patriots”. The crazies kicked out the hunters and sportsmen quite a while ago.

        • nightmoth

          Yeah—my husband quit about 20 years ago, right after the NRA magazine featured a full page ad calling the government “jack-booted thugs.” To be fair, even libruls were upset about Ruby Ridge and Waco back then, but accusing the entire federal government of tyranny wasn’t the way to go. For thinking people, that is. The crazies happily became the NRA base.

  • Sister Artemis

    having just lost a family member to suicide by gun (and someone who probably shouldn’t have had one in the first place) this pisses me off more than usual. Are these people insane? stupid? both? Yes, both. Grrrrhhh! Seeing red right now.

    • Walter Wellstone

      They’re stupid. They do these things voluntarily.

      • Angela Ruzzo

        They are not stupid. They are Republicans, i.e. brain dead.

  • Walter Wellstone

    Do they realize black people, Hispanics and Muslims will be able to carry concealed guns too or did they make it clear the law applies to white, Christian, conservative Republicans?

    • Jukesgrrl

      Naw, this law is about what Reel Murricans® are allowed to do.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      I have this sneaking suspicion that these gun laws are there so that the white, Christian, conservative Republicans can shoot everyone else, so there won’t be any of them there furriners and libruls around, which is how they Make America Great Again.

  • Lesley McKinnon

    And they also managed to override a veto of a voter ID law.

    • Angela Ruzzo

      Yes, wasn’t that nice of them. Two idiocies in one day, they outdid themselves. It adds a new dimension to our state nickname “The Show Me State” – as in “Show me one stupid thing, and I will do it twice.”

      • Vagendadentacohontas

        Hopefully they all get a nice, long vacation after their hard work! *

        *I’ve searched this word, “vacation,” and I understand that it’s something Chevy Case does, and also congress, but I’m still not clear on the details…so, you like don’t go to work, and then you have something called, “fun?”

        • Angela Ruzzo

          It’s a First World concept, invented by the aristocratic oligarchy to give the middle- and working-classes the illusion that their lives have meaning, if only for 2 weeks per year.

        • guppy06

          I thought “vacation” was a fancy term for “laid off.”

          I’m still trying to wrap my head around “paid holidays” myself.

    • guppy06

      Making it easier to shoot up a polling place than to vote at one.

  • Jukesgrrl

    Wow, do we have a new record on number of articles posted in one day? Dok and Da Marvelettes be workin overtime! How many munniez did our Editrix get this week? Don’t spend the ameros and bitcoins all in one place, Becca!

    • mml1996

      Hehe, either way – bring ’em all in!

    • Courser

      And I kept my promise and bought things today. From here on out I’ll just have to throw my munies directly at them. (No worries, I can do that with one of the handy buttons…….. on the right —————————————————>>>>>

      • guppy06

        Shouldn’t buttons to give Wonkett munnies be on the left?

    • doktorzoom

      Nah, it’s 12, like most days. But we were short Wednesday.

  • Be Gin

    Certainly Missouri is a shithole. No one disputes this. But the important question is whether Missouri’s qualitative shithole status approaches the shithole heights found in Texas or Florida.

    In terms of acreage it is the smallest shithole of the three. It has fewer people, roads and resources than Texas or Florida.

    But Doctor Zoom makes a strong case that Missouri has a greater Shithole Quotient than Texas and Florida combined! That the people of Missouri, though small minded in most ways have a big vision of how big a shithole their state can be!

    Alas I must point out that George Zimmerman comes from Florida and Ted Cruz is a senator from Texas. The people of Missouri cannot point to such shithole monuments as these!

    Only time will tell if Missouri will ever become the Dominant Shithole its people see it as. The wave of gun violence their legislature has orchestrated is certainly a step in the right direction. But to be a Great Shithole requires more than Missouri has to offer.

    • Courser

      They’re hoping to get christened “Chicago South”

      • Alexander Stallwitz

        Dont you mean Southern Chiraq

    • Vagendadentacohontas

      Todd Akin = +1 Missouri

    • phoenix00

      Just consider them tossed into the Basket of Deplorables and call it a day I say.

      • JohnC44

        When is pickup day for these baskets? Mine is getting pretty full. Dragging 30 mill people to the curb is gonna be hell on my back.

        • phoenix00

          What U-Haul is for.

          Or was it Waste Management? Always get the two mixed up when it comes to Baskets of Deplorables

    • JohnC44

      MO is no shithole!

      Would a shithole have a place where you can buy lukewarm hotdogs out of a cooler filled with hot water for $0.25 (St. Joseph, off I-29)?

      Uh, nevermind….

  • alnnc

    I think Missouri just wanted to make sure Kansas was not a repeat winner of the ALEC Regressive State of the Year award again. NC tried this year with HB 2, but made their move too early in the season and they had the loss on the voting rights deal.. Texas had a couple of set backs with the abortion legislation and voting rights. Florida hasn’t had a good stand your ground case recently and the Bondi thing, well that involves Trump so it doesn’t count. I think Missouri has a shot this year and can proudly display the ALEC gilded turd in their capitol rotunda. Good Job, Missouri!!!

  • Left Coast Tom

    Supporters of unlicensed concealed carry
    insist it will make everyone safer, because more people will be able to
    defend themselves against bad guys.

    I hope Missourians realize that making people want to only fly over their state at the highest altitude possible isn’t a very good way to counter the “fly-over country” dig…

    • Vagendadentacohontas

      Their moto is, “The Show Me State.” Infer from there.

      • phoenix00

        New motto: “Show me everything but my sidearm”?

    • guppy06

      There’s still the issue of Putin giving them their own SAM batteries.

    • TheBoatDude

      GE, Rolls Royce and Pratt & Whitney are developing more powerful engines to make sure planes can clear Missouri even faster….

      • JohnC44

        Sure hope Rolls can figure out that minor little turbine failure problem first.

        On second thought, I guess blowing a turbine section out of the side of a nacelle is akin to a firarm discharge….A-OK in MO.

  • Juan de Fuca

    This is one of the paradoxes that has always amazed me; on one hand you have right wing types who are quick to blame liberals for hating the police when we protest or speak out against corrupt cops or saying that our police departments need a cultural change in policing (spoiler alert – they do), yet these same right wing types are the first people to support legislation that directly* leads to more cops being murdered on the streets.

    If we’re really going to play the blame game, who is really responsible for killing more cops? I personally don’t like getting into the blame game but if they wanna talk about cause and effect, who’s more responsible for cop killings? Peaceful protesters (by far and large, for the most part) or people who support very little firearm regulations that allow these firearms in the streets to begin with, leading to a more militaristic police force that leads to more protests against the militarization of our local police? More guns leads to more cops being killed. It’s that simple.

    *Source: http://www.newsweek.com/more-guns-state-more-cops-are-killed-375700

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      More dead cops helps them scare more people into buying more guns. Small price to pay, according to the NRAssholes.

    • JohnC44

      The ability to consider consequences and implications to others comes only in more advanced phases of human development that were missed by the subject individuals.

      Consider the frequent use of the “good guy” and “bad guy” concepts to rationalize their behavior. This alone shows a shockingly immature worldview of zero sum binary classification. Grey areas are as inperceptible to a depressingly large number of these people as they are to a 3 yr old child.

      Bottom line, what you have here are thousands if not millions of people impersonating the fictional TV and movie hero characters of their childhood. Their rationale is just an excuse…all they really want is to be John Wayne or Clint Eastwood.

  • Be Gin

    I know people who have a phobia about clowns. It is called coulrophobia.

    And now my travel agency has a package deal for them!

    After a leisurely Greyhound Bus Line trip into Missouri they will be rented a gun and then taken to the circus where they can release some anxiety related hostility in a warm and supportive therapeutic environment. These Missouri folks won’t mind.

    For $50 extra we can get them a taxi to the Rodeo where they can unwind with a few rodeo clowns.

    I’m working on getting Dr. Oz to feature this on his show.

    • phoenix00

      Hint: ask him to write down “coulrophobia”

  • laineypc

    Hurray! More bad guyz with gunz! More domestic violencers with gunz, more ignoramuses with gunz what don’t know how to use them! More shooty shooty! A few more murders and suicides are totally worth the freedom.

    • Vagendadentacohontas

      Ok, I hate to be an asshole (actually, I don’t hate it that much) …but they’re in Missouri, so I’m kinda flip flipping about being fine with that….
      ~ Darwin~

  • MizzMazz

    Sigh. Again with the fallacy that being armed makes you safer.
    Facts: Guns in the house do not make you safer, it makes it more likely that a gun will injure or kill someone by accident or on purpose during an argument, etc. The numbers are there, if you care to look them up (I’m on a shitty computer right now, or I would provide the citations). I work with police officers, and even though this is anecdote, they are all in agreement that they want fewer people with guns, not more. Why? Not so they can be the new fascist storm-trooper overlords, but so their own lives won’t be in peril, not to mention the lives of the rest of us. They undergo a great deal of training with their firearms, and admit that still they could use more, where the average Joe who goes and gets a gun may well have none. No one with a brain wants to be in that situation, and have it either purposely or accidentally blown to bits.

    tl;dr, The stupid notion of ‘good guys with guns’ has got to die.

    • phoenix00

      We already know by intuition and stats.

  • Sakonyachen

    To be fair, Nixon is useless. He could have gone out and appealed to the people about not expanding gun access. Instead, he just vetoes and waits for the override. For left wing nut jobs like myself, he is the consummate DINO. The RWNJ I listen to every morning even points out that he is a DINO. He basically says Nixon just plays the Dem card and then has no follow up. Which is accurate.

    • Vagendadentacohontas

      ON POINT!!1!11!! I’m with you when King George comes for our gunz!

      • Sakonyachen

        I’m picturing Zombie King George grabbing guns from freedumbers while Nixon follows him around with a veto slip.

    • Left Coast Tom

      Have your fellow Missourians considered giving him a sane legislature to work with?

      • Sakonyachen

        Making the case would help. I’m from Illinois. Our version of sane is not coveted.

        My point is, if you go and make your point to the populace, they may actually raise a stink. Especially when you are in Jay Nixon’s scenario, where you cannot run for another term what do you have to lose?

        • Left Coast Tom

          That would make sense to me if he didn’t have a realistic hope of being succeeded by a Democrat…not sure whether that’s the case or not. Otherwise, he needs to focus on the battles he has a fair chance of winning, maybe this just wasn’t one of those.

          It’s hard for me to judge, here in California the only question legislative elections pose is whether Democrats will have a veto-proof majority, or not, versus a Democratic governor.

          • Sakonyachen

            The Democrat that will probably succeed him was endorsed by the NRA over a former Navy Seal. Not much chance he will be working on restrictions.

            My point initially was, Nixon doesn’t battle for anything. He just vetoes and turns his phone off. The people in charge around Ferguson couldn’t get a phone call through to him during the first few weeks of the unrest. They talked to the Obama administration sooner than Nixon. When he does show up he gives Palinesque word salads and vetoes more party line stuff against a veto proof majority.

        • Gregory Brown

          To be honest, you have to admit that our version of sane in Illinois is all about thievery, not shootery.

          • Sakonyachen

            You are correct there. We are not brutes, just scaliwags.

    • guppy06

      I’m still trying to wrap my head around the fact that Missouri didn’t elect Mojo Nixon.

      • Arolpin

        He’s too busy doing the afternoon/early-evening show on Outlaw Country on Sirius/XM. Plus, who the fuck wants to live in Missouri? (I went to college in St. Louis, and have friends there, and some family and can’t quite figure out when exactly MO went full-fucking RWNJ.

  • Vagendadentacohontas

    Dok, I hate to nit pick, but it’s now nazi, fascist, socialist Canadian. Because that just makes sense.

    • phoenix00

      Oh we were always libruls and socalist. Now we’re socalistiest, naziest, and fasciest!

      • Boscoe

        -But polite!

        • phoenix00

          The politiest and the poutineiest too!

  • guppy06

    reduces the penalty for carrying a firearm into a building where guns aren’t allowed from a felony to a misdemeanor.

    And then you try that shit in a post office…

    • phoenix00

      or a police station?

      • guppy06

        Nah, that’s survivable depending on skin color. This is more of a “Aww, the widdle sovereign citizen thinks state laws matter on federal property…”

        • phoenix00

          True that. Cute if white, dead if not.

  • Duke

    It’s exciting when pandering can create real danger!

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    Whats terrfying me is that I live in Illinois which is next to Missouri. We now have an armed state next door, oh lord have mercy

    • phoenix00

      To be fair, it was always armed. Now it’s “freely armed”. That’s the scary part.

    • guppy06

      Um… what about Kentucky, or even Indiana?

    • James

      Hopefully you don’t live in Chicago, the gun nuts have shootings there everyday

    • mfp

      you’ll be fine…i live across the MS river from STL….you cant bribe a missour-duh-an to cross over here…and that’s why i live on this side o the river–just remember to keep voting for democrats in IL, or we’ll soon be MO

  • Vagandarian the Librarian!

    I have people I care ❤ about in Missouri. Now I have to wonder every time they go out the door?

    *Also in Illinois, Kansas……..

    • Gregory Brown

      What’s this about Illinois? Outside of Chicago we are very safe, since the gun laws on the books actually work here.

  • folderol

    Yeah, I can carry a little peashooter around in my waistband. But what about my homemade thermonuclear device? Why is that still not allowed?

    • phoenix00

      Safety, I bet

      • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

        If I had a penny for every time I nuked myself in the foot….

        • phoenix00

          so that’s why I saw that mini-mushroom cloud last Tuesday!

    • JohnC44

      folderol, we’ve been over this a 1,000 times. That’s not a thermonuclear device…it’s just a broken VCR.

      • Gregory Brown

        It’s not broken! It’s just full of marbles. You can shake them out.

    • nick kelly

      Seriously, if the point of bearing arms was to prevent the government taking over ( it isn’t-the amendment says ‘militia’- the army of the original colonies)
      then the survivalist needs modern weapons.
      The government has tanks so you need anti-tank weapons. The government has planes so you need anti-aircraft missiles.
      But there are laws against both so Congress has already passed laws forbidding arms.

  • arrrghle

    Yikes.

    New motto: Making Oklahoma Look Good.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      NYT had it best: “The Shoot Me State.”

  • Meanie-meanie, tickle a person

    The only this can work out well for America is for it *not* to work out well for Missouri, and ain’t that the shit.

    • nick kelly

      The gun bit hasn’t been working out in the US for quite a while- looks like to continue.

      • Boscoe

        To be fair though, it only looks bad if you compare us to anywhere else.

  • Sam Hain

    That’s all good and fine, I strongly support this, just as long as they make sure them browns have 13 forms of ID to vote and can only vote on the 5th Tuesday in November between 13- and 16 PM in the morning…at the only polling place in the white part of town, patrolled by Drumpf Voter Goons (AKA Redhats, AKA Brownshirts).

    • Gregory Brown

      Your festival is coming soon. Just before Election Day.

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  • MamaBrown

    Each and every day when I rise from my bed in socialist Massachusetts, I thank Zeus, Allah, Buddha, Krishna, Mithras, Thor, Mary Baker Eddy and sweet dimpled chubby little baby Jesus that I do not live in a godforsaken hellhole like Missouri.

    • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

      Joseph Smith found Missouri a disappointment, too.

    • nick kelly

      I could Copy and Paste yr comment changing only one word: Mass becomes Canada.

    • MikeIP

      Same here after moving to MA from MO. I hated living in that state.

      • MamaBrown

        Brother! Welcome back to blue!

  • JohnC44

    Has anyone let Kansas know of this development? Rumor has it they get a little jumpy there when MO gets all shooty and what not. Some kind of history there….

  • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

    The “[Are you packing? No need to] Show Me State”.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Just don’t assume they’re happy to see you.

  • Oh those fuckng pussies in Mousse

  • baconzgood

    This is good news for people that specialize in getting blood out of living room carpets.

    • Gregory Brown

      White wine works really wel …. never mind.

  • Jennaratrix

    The conversation in my house (just outside Kansas City, MO) last night when this story came on the news:
    Me: Oh for fuck’s sake. This is great. Now any fucking idiot around here can get a gun, carry it anywhere they want, and have a ready-made excuse for blowing away kids carrying Skittles. Great.
    Husband: Shit, we’re going to have to get a gun; everyone else will have one. I’m not getting shot in a road rage thing.
    Me:
    Me:
    Me:
    Me: Um. No. First of all, if I had a gun, especially driving, I’d shoot someone. I am my own best argument for gun control. Second, statistically, do you know who is most likely to get shot by a gun in this house?
    Husband: No…
    Me: ME. So you can have a gun or a wife, but you can’t have both, because I won’t live in a house with a weapon.

    I hate this fucking place. And it just keeps getting worse.

    • mfp

      the problem with MO is basically the same with all the other midwest states….you have two big metro areas on each end of the state, and the rest is ala-fucking-bama—i dont know how much longer we can hold out here in IL, we’ll be the last midwest/rust belt/great lakes state to fall to the rauner-koch statehouse-stuffing (with deplorable repubs) machine…MO would already be KS if not for somehow electing a dem gov twice

      • Don’tTreadonUs

        That was an accident, it won’t happen again.

    • Don’tTreadonUs

      If you hate it, you are free to leave anytime you wish. I have never understood people hating where they are who just stay there like they have no choice.

      • doktorzoom

        You seem unhappy at this website. Let me show you the door.

        — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • Jennaratrix

        I get what you’re saying, but I moved here for my husband, this is where his job and family are, and we’ve made a life here. He’d be just as unhappy if we moved to where I grew up. It’s not that I don’t have a choice, exactly, but my choices are limited. Most of the time I’m content, but today I’m not, and I don’t have to pretend to love it.

        And you’re right, you DON’T understand. Either try to, or maybe save the advice for someone who asks.

        • MechMan

          The same thing also happens in the reverse. In gun control-oriented states, the liberals just say, “If you don’t like it, move out.” But not everyone can do that, people settle in a career and have families, etc…they can’t just throw everything into a truck and move.

      • eastcoastlib

        Oh I get it. When ignorant wingnuts make laws, we either bow down and accept it we should leave. Funny how that doesn’t work the other way around. The way I figure it, since Bamz is such a tyrannt who enjoys justa stompin’ on their freedumz, they should have been gone from these parts eight years ago.

      • Boscoe

        WHat I can’t figure out is why all the wingnuts don’t pack up and move to Somalia. I hear there is no librul tyranny there.

    • Mike Steele

      Jenna: M. Steele and I have had this discussion for years. Thus far, we’ve been able to live amicably and gun-free for 25 of them. might want to tell Mr. Wonderful that, upon further research, you learned the likeliest person in your home to be killed by the gun is him (he?). That chat should be over, pronto:)

    • Jane Geary

      You are your own best argument for a prozac prescription, not gun control.

      Also did you just accuse your husband of planning to murder you because of a statistic?

      Poor guy needs to get a divorce lawyer, he can purchase a gun when he’s rid of the extra baggage.

      • Jennaratrix

        Usually I go the diplomatic route and acknowledge whatever bits of truth I can find in any reply to my non-comments, but in this case, you can fuck right off.

        • Jane Geary

          Bits of truth? You’re claiming that a personal flaw in your self control is a reason to punish hundreds of millions of other people. The only bit of truth there is that you’re severely unbalanced.

          Also thanks for proving my point, get that prozac prescription soon.

    • MechMan

      Living in a house with a firearm is no different than living in one with matches, lighters, household chemicals, electrical outlets, stairs, bathtub, swimming pool, power tools, kitchen knives, etc…all of which can deal serious harm to a person if they aren’t careful with them. That a gun is a tool designed as a weapon is irrelevant. Handled safely, it is no more dangerous than any of the other items.

      If you feel you would shoot someone if you had a gun while driving, then it is good you recognize you should not have a gun, however, you are projecting that because you are like this, that everyone else is. That is not the case. The gun control proponents were making this claim back in the late 1980s on the verge of Florida’s concealed carry law, that it would lead to people shooting each other over traffic disputes and so forth, but it didn’t happen.

      • Jennaratrix

        That a gun is a tool designed as a weapon is irrelevant.

        Any discussion of how to deal with an object starts with what the object is. Until up to 49 people at a time are regularly being murdered with matches, lighters, household chemicals, electrical outlets, stairs, bathtubs, swimming pools, power tools, kitchen knives, etc., I’m afraid you’re stuck with the inconvenient fact that firearms are weapons and can’t be discussed in the same terms as household appliances.

        All snarkiness aside, here are my thoughts. Owning a firearm would be an enormous responsibility, one that I am not comfortable taking on for myself. We would be a household that safely handled weapons; before purchasing one, I would learn how to shoot, learn how to strip and clean the weapon, how to safely load and unload it (and if any of those terms are wrong, bear with me; I am not a firearm person. Obviously.) It would be properly stored separate from its ammunition. My husband would do the same, with the exception that since he is prior military and served with the Marines, he already knows how to properly and safely handle a weapon. We have a teenager, and he would also be properly trained. But I DON’T WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY that comes along with owning a deadly weapon. So my joking around about shooting people on the highway if I had a gun is just that; a joke. Maybe in poor taste, but there it is. I don’t want to worry that something would go wrong, and since I don’t NEED a weapon, I also don’t need to accept the possible consequences of owning one. Unlike stairs in my house, to use your example.

        Now, do I believe that since I don’t want to be responsible for the proper care, use, and handling of a weapon that NO ONE should be allowed to? No, and I never said so. I’m not pleased with the idea that outside my home, anywhere I go, I could be surrounded by people who think that they need a gun wherever they are, and are no more careful with it than they would be with a lighter, with much more dire consequences. But, I understand that the horse is out of the barn on personal firearm ownership; I just think that there is an awful lot of middle ground between “Anyone can have a weapon, carry it anywhere they want, and can shoot anyone who they feel is threatening them” and “No one can have a weapon, ever.”

  • Cain Abel

    “In the five-year period after the law was enacted, the murder rate went up faster in Missouri than it did in other states, but in the five-year period before the law was enacted the murder rate was going up even faster, said Lott. “Missouri was on an ominous path before the law was ended.””

    http://bearingarms.com/raquel-o/2014/03/02/lott-to-gp-johns-hopkins-gun-violence-study-flawed-twisted/

    • doktorzoom

      You seem nice. And thanks to your other contribution to Wonkette, also banhammered.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

      • Boscoe

        Wow Dok, good eye! I read that comment as standard issue Wonksnark until I saw where the link went…

    • eastcoastlib

      So if you’re house is on fire, the prudent thing to do is douse it with gasoline?

      Why try and fix a problem when you can make it ten times worse? Amirite?

      • MechMan

        That’s only if the law is guaranteed to make the murder rate increase. Otherwise, it is not dousing the house with gasoline. It may even be the equivalent of dousing with water.

  • Crystalclear12

    And Missouri back on the stupid list.
    Sigh

    • CriticalDragon1177

      Was there ever a time when it was off your stupid list? Come think about it, was there ever a day when out country didn’t do something stupid?

  • Gregory Brown

    Someone is going to toss a cherry bomb into a crowd of gun-toting Missouri yokels, and set off a circular firing squad.

    • Jared James

      I take it you haven’t met the Missouri lege, a circular firing squad if ever there were one.

  • CriticalDragon1177

    Sounds like the gun nuts of Missouri want to have their own Travon Martin.

  • Weevie

    It’s called Misery for a reason.

  • Celtic_GnomePlorable

    So much for the Show Me state.

    • jmk

      That has also been changed… it’s now “show you? I don’t have to… and I don’t need no stinkin’ permit, neither.”

  • Rasilom

    I want to a boarding HS in what we called St. Lousy in the state of Misery.

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  • Serolf Divad

    I don’t see what the problem is. Up to now, it’s been way to difficult to get a concealed carry permit after a messy divorce, especially if domestic abuse has been alleged in the past and you maybe threatened to kill her and the kids once or twice. And if you were caught loitering outside the places she frequents with a handgun and no permit, the consequences could be severe. This new law corrects those obvious injustices.

    • Boscoe

      Exactly! Anyone can have a bad day, or year(s), and how fair is it that they should have to pay for that forever? And who is the government to say whether the person I’m stalking doesn’t have it coming?? THEY DON’T KNOW ME!

    • Jane Geary

      it also allows her to carry a gun for her protection…

      • Serolf Divad

        And just like in the movies, it’s the good guy who shoots the straightest. Always.

  • Boscoe

    Yeah, they did the same thing in my state a few years ago. ‘Cause heaven forbid someone should have to know anything about the pertinent laws, responsibilities and safety concepts before shoving a gun down his pants and heading off the the movies.

    What’s next, they make you take a test and be licensed to drive a car? TYRANNY!!!!1!11

    • William Keen

      The STATE has to protect “public property” so they ‘require’ anyone who wishes to ‘drive’ a STATE owned vehicle to pass the competency test. Now, why isn’t the STATE sued as a defendant whenever there is a wreck?

      Certification (licensing) makes the issuer liable for the certification of competency.

      You should check out your STATE’s “Certificate of Title Act” to see which vehicles it was written for.

  • Jane Geary

    I’m 5 foot 3 inches tall, barely 100lbs, and I’m not going to fist fight a rapist. I don’t travel to any state that limits my right to defend myself, as a weirdo who carries her lethal pal around… Good for Missouri!

  • Heartland Patriot

    Aw, you’re so snarky, Karl Marx will hand you your own pitchfork in h3ll!

  • Kim

    Thank you. Nirvana saved my day

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