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Looks like the hackeratti have been very, very busy, this time releasing a whole bunch of email hacked from former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who it turns out was far more Mean Girl in his personal chats with friends than he’s been in public statements about Donald Trump and several foreign policy matters — including Benghazi and the handling of the Iraq War. Buzzfeed has been having no end of fun releasing excerpts of emails obtained by “DCLeaks.com,” an outfit which “has reported, but not confirmed, ties to Russian intelligence services.

There’s all sorts of juicy stuff that lives up to the slogan reportedly embroidered on Alice Roosevelt Longworth’s parlor pillows, “if you can’t say something good about someone, sit right here by me” (Nope, not Dorothy Parker, or even Tallulah Bankhead. Sorry.)

So, who did Powell dish? ALL OF THEM, KATIE. In emails to former aide Emily Miller, who’s now a journalist, he had a whole bunch of choice things to say about his party’s nominee for president, which is about what you’d expect, since Powell has always been among the Republicans’ non-raving contingent. In an August 21 email, for instance, he said of course the “birther” movement was racist:

“Yup, the whole birther movement was racist,” Powell wrote. “That’s what the 99% believe. When Trump couldn’t keep that up he said he also wanted to see if the certificate noted that he was a Muslim […]

“As I have said before, ‘What if he was?’ Muslims are born as Americans everyday,” Powell wrote to his former aide.

He also said — in the sort of observation that’s only surprising when it’s leaked from somebody’s private email — that having Roger Ailes on Team Trump would probably not be good fro Trump’s outreach to the ladies: “And Ailes as an advisor wont heal women, don’t you think?” Well sure, yeah, but Colin Powell said it.

In other emails, Powell reportedly called Trump “a national disgrace” and an “international pariah,” which seems a pretty fair if unguarded characterization. We’re fairly sure Powell wasn’t pushing for a rump Administration job anyway. Powell also warned CNN anchor Fareed Zakaria not to give Trump so much coverage, and declined to go on air to talk about every dumb thing Trump says: “You guys are playing his game, you are his oxygen. He outraged us again today with his comments on Paris no-go for police districts. I will watch and pick the timing, not respond to the latest outrage.”

Powell even told another email recipient that Trump thrives on negative attention, which is why Powell wouldn’t do another guest spot: “To go on and call him an idiot just emboldens him.”

As for the House Republicans’ obsession with the attack on Benghazi, an email exchange between Powell and Condoleezza Rice, George W. Bush’s other former secretary of state, indicated they both thought the controversy had little “there” there. Powell also spread the blame for the deadly attack around, but was especially hard on Ambassador Chris Stevens, who died in the attack, for not taking his own security seriously enough:

“Benghazi is a stupid witch hunt. Basic fault falls on a courageous ambassador who thoughts Libyans now love me and I am ok in this very vulnerable place,” Powell wrote in a December 2015 email exchange […]

“But blame also rests on his leaders and supports back here. Pat Kennedy, Intel community, DS and yes HRC” — the last acronym short for Hillary Clinton, added Powell, who served under former President George W. Bush.

“Completely agree,” Rice responds, adding, “Let me know when you’re in town and we’ll have that glass of wine (or two).”

We’re not sure what’s going to get the righty-tighties more excited in that one: POWELL BLAMES CLINTON FOR BENGHAZI! or RINO CONDI RICE THOUGHT BENGHAZI ABOUT AS INTERESTING AS HAVING A GLASS OF WINE.

In a 2015 exchange between the two former GWB secretaries of State, both Powell and Rice reminisced about that old Iraq war they helped their boss get America into, and agreed that things would have been a hell of a lot better if the diplomats at State had run things after the invasion instead of the pinheads in the Pentagon (a view not unfamiliar to anyone who’s read Rajiv Chandrasekaran’s Imperial Life in The Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone or Peter Van Buren’s We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People — reviewed here on Wonkette in olden times). Who lost Iraq? Powell and Rice were pretty sure it was that dope Rumsfeld and his team of optimists and amateurs:

The two former secretaries of state corresponded briefly after journalist Bob Woodward disputed Rumsfeld’s argument that he had always been skeptical of creating a democracy in Iraq […]

Powell initiated the 2015 exchange by emailing Rice, who was the national security adviser at the time of the Iraq invasion, with a link to Woodward’s comments.

“First, we didn’t invade Iraq to bring democracy — but once we overthrew Saddam, we had a view of what should follow,” Rice responded. “If Don and the Pentagon had done their job (after claiming the rights to lead post-war rebuilding—things might have turned out differently).”

“Don should just stop talking,” she added. “He puts his foot in his mouth every time.”

Powell replied by seconding Rice’s critique, saying “the boys in the band were brain dead.”

Yep, that sounds like a pretty accurate summary of losing the peace after winning the war, although we’d have to dispute Powell’s other contention in the email, that “43 knew what had to be done,” because almost nobody in the administration had any idea what to do with Iraq after the military victory — but the Defense Department went out of its way to keep people with any real expertise on Iraq, especially from the State Department, from being involved in the postwar planning and administration.

Now, if we could just listen in on what Condi and Colin had to say about Paul Bremer, the genius who decided to disband Saddam’s army and send them all home with their AK-47s.

If Gen. Powell ever loses his sinecure as a commentator on political talk shows, he’d certainly fit right in at Wonkette. Maybe he’d like to sponsor us!

[Buzzfeed / Buzzfeed / Buzzfeed]

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  • MynameisBlarney

    This hacking seems to be getting juuuuuuuust a wee bit out of hand.

  • Señor Skwerl

    I sure hope they don’t hack into the hidden comments section on Wonkette. They might discover our dick jokes!

  • Wild Cat

    I’d like to insult Powell, but I must be kind to moral midgets.

  • ManchuCandidate

    I knew the Bush Admin was acting like a bunch of New Kids on the Block and not N’Sync with each other. Of course, they amped up the incompetence for Iraqinam up to 98 degrees when they acted like a bunch of maniacal Monkees. Turned it from a charming mess like O-Town into, well, a manfactured flaming bag of dogshit… like O-Town.

    • Painter of Deplorables

      If they had matured from Boyz to Men they would have seen the folly sooner.

      • Señor Skwerl

        All it takes is a careless whisper and then WHAM!..

        • Mpeg

          …. without a Menudo to spare, hell breaks loose~

      • JMP

        But although they’d come to the end of the road, still they can’t let go…

      • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

        What we need are more Spice Girls running things.

      • I read on the internet that Trump wrote a cheque to Boyz II Men because he thought it was a code-name for NAMBLA.

    • PubOption

      They couldn’t find One Direction to go, so just flailed about.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        What? Wand Erection? What?

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Which one was GG Allin?

  • JMP

    That’s nice. Why don’t you have the courage to say this sort of honest assessment out in public where it could actually make a difference then?

    • Jonny On Maui

      Party uber alles…

      • MynameisBlarney

        CYA uber alles amongst that group of jackals.

        • Major_Major_Major

          Jackal libelz!!!

    • Wild Cat

      He’s always been a moral coward, as well as a mass-murder approval agent.

      That’s why he’s beloved.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      Look up his complicity in the cover up of the My Lai Massacre in Vietnam in 1968. That work helped his career take off.

  • Scooby

    RINOs ate me baby!

  • cousin itt

    I don’t fucking care about how Powell calls out Donald. I want his ass hauled to The Hague Tribunal along with W, Condi, Rummy, and The Dick.

  • Joe Beese

    Never Forget.

    • Little Lulu

      This photo of an Iraqi girl has haunted me since I first saw it on the front page of the NYTimes.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      Google “Colin Powell My Lai massacre “

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Powell did have a few more lucid moments than the rest of his Cabinet cohort… and then he squandered every last bit of his self-respect and stature with horrible UN presentation…

  • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

    The boys in the Dead were brain banned.

  • Spotts1701

    Well, whoop-de-doo.

    • Lulu Mac

      I think you mean:

  • memzilla

    Ms. Longworth would FIT RIGHT IN here at Wonket. She’d’ve had some great T-shirt ideas too, you betcha!
    .

    • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

      And the stories she would tell about Taft!

    • Mpeg

      She’s adorable!

  • Candy Apple

    I wish the media would ignore Donald Dumbass for three days just to see what kind of stupid shit comes out of his mouth just to get back in the headlines.

    • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

      I give the first half of your comment five whore diamonds.

    • Jennaratrix

      Make it the next two months and I’m down.

  • dslindc

    I fail to understand how Powell hasn’t sprinted away from the GOP by now.

    • cousin itt

      Military folks tend to be particularly loyal?

    • DainBramage

      Tribalism.

    • Toomush_Infer

      No one else will have him…

    • The DeplorableDemmeVagenda

      Loyal soldier.

      (Nice legacy, Colin.)

  • sw19tacotruck
    • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

      The woman at that rally that got coldcocked?

    • dslindc

      He reads the Post? Colin, you trashy retired General, you!

    • cousin itt
    • timpundit

      Yeah I think we all would have rathered you not have worked for a greedy, quarter-wit, and his evil, heartless handler who killed thousands of innocent people because his daddy was insulted once. But we all have our regrets don’t we?

    • chicken thief

      Still dicking bimbos? How he do that?! I mean, I got my peen pics out there but not one lady has indicated she’s ready to take the bait, if you know what I mean and I think you do.

      ~ Anthony in NYC

    • elviouslyqueer

      She is a friend I respect? Colin, honey, I’ve seen less shade thrown on an entire season of Drag Race than you did in one goddamn sentence.

  • Lulu Mac

    OT, but…ewewewewewew!

    ON KISSING: Ivanka kissed Dr. Oz & her dad. Oz commented on kiss. Trump said he kisses her "as often as I can," audience tells @FayCortez.— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) September 14, 2016

  • Oblios_Cap

    It certainly seems that no server is secure from hackers these days.

    • Msgr_Pheasant_Plucker’s_Son

      I knew you were going to say that….

    • I Only Like Cats

      They don’t make private servers like they used to.

    • Jenny, Manocidal Vagendiac

      Homie uses AOL for mail so no. But still the most secure server in the world isn’t enough to stop the secretary from clicking on a link loaded with a keylogger.

      • mancityfooty .

        “but…but, I was the millionth visitor! A free ipad!”

    • TeeRaak

      ZDE

  • elviouslyqueer

    Powell also warned CNN anchor Fareed Zakaria not to give Trump so much coverage, and declined to go on air to talk about every dumb thing Trump says.

    Now now, Colin. That’s what Corey Lewandowski is for, silly.

    • mackafritz

      If he went on air for every dumb thing Donald said, he’d be on 24/7.

  • DainBramage

    My dad died the day these criminals sent troops in to invade Iraq. The 2 brain cells I had functioning knew their reasons for the invasion were bullshit. The whole run-up to the war was one piece of BS after another, as any reasonable person could see at the time.

    • JoeChristmas

      What was the percentage at the time “reasonable persons” who thought that any kind of war in Iraq was a foolish endeavor? 15%? Maybe.
      Throw in the doubling of the military budget and Fatherland Security and we were distant voices in the wasteland.

      • TeeRaak

        Only one, one congresscritter voted against the authority to go to war in Afghanistan.

        One.

        Amy Goodman played her quote. She said “this won’t stop future attacks against America.”

        BINGO.
        One Fucking smart person. ONE. *

        *= I was also against Afghanistan, because Bush was an idiot and I knew he’d fuck it up.

        • JoeChristmas

          I’ve always been fascinated with the 23 in the Senate and 133 in the House who voted Nay. As I said back then, if you want to attack a dictatorship that harbored terrorists and had known WMD’s we should have went after Pakistan — what no oil?
          One thing for sure, if Hillz had been #24 I would be sucking the purulent sputum out of her lungs right now.

    • Shibusa

      Powell’s flimsy “evidence” explained why France, Germany, and China were never on board. I also remember Iraq letting journalists into the factories named by Powell, to debunk the lies.

  • Ikimizi

    Rice responds, adding, “Let me know when you’re in town and we’ll have that glass of wine (or two).”

    Whoa, I think we’re missing the real story here.

    • proudgrampa

      No kidding…

      It would be irresponsible not to speculate…

      • MynameisBlarney

        I remember some people saying that bush43 and Condi may have had a fling back in the day.

        Also…

        EEEEEWWWWW

        • proudgrampa

          Yeah, that Condi is a ho…

      • SpideySenser

        Does Randi know about this?

      • Celtic_GnomePlorable

        Does Bush know his second wife is palling around with Colin?

    • BadKitty904
  • Villago Delenda Est

    The IMPORTANT thing is the Dark Lord’s personal fortune was heavily augmented by the Great Mesopotamian Adventure, even if it did cost thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives. What are a bunch of lives of peasants compared to making sure Liz gets a huge inheritance, amirite?

    • anna rampage

      Really? Like if you had the chance to start a war that would make you, your friends, and family the most wealthiest of wealthy, like you wouldn’t jump all of that…

      You are a registered republican, right? ;)

    • Celtic_GnomePlorable

      He also said that Dick and Liz Cheney were idiots and a spent force.

  • UncleTravelingMatt

    Powell’s e-mail to Condi is the single most courageous act since Joseph Welch e-mailed: “Hey, don’t tell anyone I said this, but I have serious reservations about McCarthy’s sense of decency. LOL.”

  • Gorillionaire

    Did Colin Powell have anything to say about the kill all the towelheads now dog and pony show he gave for the UN?

  • Basket of Vagendas

    If you want a pretty fair overview of what a pack of clowns we have making up our press, you should read Emily Miller’s wikipedia entry. She’s evil Republican chick-Zelig.

  • WeaselPoo

    “We didn’t invade Iraq to bring democracy”
    And we didn’t invade it to destroy Hussein’s WMD’s because as Powell damn well knew, Saddam didn’t have any left (from what Rumsfeld and the US, Israel, Germany and the UK provided to him during the Iran- Iraq war).
    Next time Powell accepts a TV invite, he should be asked in reference to this e-mail, why the US ACTUALLY invaded Iraq. ( The answer: to fulfill the published PNAC wet dream of controlling oil in the ME with a direct physical presence there).

    • arglebargle

      Well yes, but we will be greeted as liberators so it’s all good, man.

      • ImGoingBacon

        Saul Goodman libelzzzzz!!!!!

        • arglebargle

          I can’t believe we have to wait till February for season two.

    • WhyFelicia

      Democracy is just a red herring. ALWAYS.

  • sw19tacotruck

    OT but also worth sharing from the Wizard of Oz:
    https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/776095553805545473

    • Celtic_GnomePlorable

      The documents Dr. Oz is holding is the latest letter from Dr. Bornstein, Trump’s gastroenterologist.

      Of course, if Trump is your patient, a gastroenterologist is classified as a brain surgeon.

  • BadKitty904

    Sure, Colin, whatevs…

    OT: Innersting, as most of my relatives would pronounce it…

    Leaked Documents Reveal Secretive Influence of Corporate Cash on Politics
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/14/corporate-cash-john-doe-files-scott-walker-wisconsin

    • Amy!

      I saw that, and skimmed it (it had already been a long day here when I first saw it). It made me wonder if that’s the end of Scott Walker, and if it will be enough of a cause celebre in Wisconsin to restore some degree of sanity.

      • BadKitty904

        I hope to God it fans enough righteous indignation to run the vicious SOB out of the capitol on a rail…

        • Amy!

          Think we should start a GoFundThem to supply roofing sealant and discount-quality down pillows?

          • BadKitty904

            Be Prepared ~ The Boy Scouts

  • TheGrandWaz00

    People should hack into the e-mails of something that could actually make a difference. The Trump campaign.

    • Mr. Blobfish

      Dr. Bornstein’s Windows XP box shouldn’t be too hard.

      • Celtic_GnomePlorable

        But, the people doing the hacking want Trump to win.

  • Randy Riddle

    I thought International Pariah was Ivanka’s new fashion clothing line.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Or Melania’s.

      • Riley Whodat Venable

        No one has seen Malania since the convention. Back in Russia?

    • The DeplorableDemmeVagenda

      It will be.

  • chicken thief

    Folks, we need to cut through the fog and get down to the real issues here. Enough is enough.

    So when did Condi and Colin meet, what wine did they have, and how many glasses each? These serious questions deserve serious responses!!1!!!

    • MynameisBlarney

      Was it box wine, screw top or the plastic “cork”?!

      • hendenburg2

        Probably the Carlo Rossi 1-gallon jug

        • MynameisBlarney

          Oh yeah…AKA paint thinner.

      • Cranky Man

        Black Box ?

    • TeeRaak

      When Condi Met Colin…
      https://youtu.be/pEjlNhR-zDE

    • Celtic_GnomePlorable

      You know a second glass of wine can only lead to one thing.

      • chicken thief

        Lying about?

        Or more specifically, lying about WMD’s?

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Hey wine can be interesting. Very, very interesting. Where’s the goddam wine!”
    — Peggy Noonan

    • Villago Delenda Est

      “Manuel, fetch me another gin-infused glass of sangria, chop chop!”

      • Lance Thrustwell

        I am thirsty for another Dame Peggington Noonington post. It has been too long, I say!

        Now where did I put that thorazine & oxycontin Manhattan…?

      • aureolaborealis

        1 Ice cubes in tumbler
        2 sangria to coat ice cubes (no more!)
        3 top off with gin
        4 pour into face
        5 If shitfaced=1 unzip Remington else goto 1

  • Swampay

    first, I think Powell owns a big slice of the cluster-fuck of the Iraq war. I remember thinking at the time, “well if Colin Powell says it’s a threat, maybe it really is”. He squandered his reputation and any remaining career by being a good soldier and following his orders. Without Powell standing up at the UN I don’t know if we’d have had a war. Both sad and disappointing.

    Second, I hadn’t heard that quote from Rumsfeld, but I’d long believed that Rumsfeld didn’t engage with the discussion of what to do after the war because he honestly believed that the mission was over when Baghdad fell and we should get the hell out. I’m not sure that’s not a better solution than what we got – staying unprepared and unqualified to make Iraq a democracy extended the war by 10 years and I’m not sure it did Iraq (not to say us) any good. The better solution, of course, was to prepare for the aftermath, and the best solution was not to go in at all, but I’m not sure we did any good by staying and trying to fix what we broke. I think we maybe made it worse.

    Oh, and snark. Snarkity-snark snark snark.

    • cousin itt

      He was a good soldier.

      Too good.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      von Rumsfailed forbad any planning for post-war Iraq by the military. In part because GEN Shinseki told these stupid motherfuckers they didn’t have the troop strength on hand to secure the peace, and Shinseki was forced out for blurting the truth.

      • Swampay

        We might discuss cause and effect here. I think Rumsfeld thought all along, take out Baghdad and get out. Shinseki was forced out because he didn’t get that the mission was not to take and hold. The troop strength required to hold Iraq was irrelevant to Rumsfeld, he had no intention of holding.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          von Rumsfailed never heard about the Pottery Barn rule.

          • Swampay

            zackly

      • Thaumaturgist

        I believe they planned to turn the place over to Chelabi.

  • Manhattan123

    These hacks were released by a Russian-affiliated web site? Has Trump already lost the coveted Putin endorsement?

    • Señor Skwerl

      Well Powell does speak ill of Trump, so he can be outed as a minority.

    • AngryKatie

      If I were Putin I’d have soured on Trump.
      Putin wants someone he can manipulate, if not control outright.
      Trump is manipulate-able, but it’s increasingly obvious he’s also dangerously unpredictable.

      • Celtic_GnomePlorable

        Despite what Donnie believes, Putin said Trump was flamboyant, not smart.

  • Mavenmaven

    He seems like an honest guy till we remember the yellow cakes.

    • UncleTravelingMatt

      And My Lai.

    • Doug Langley

      Those were NOT the cakes we like.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    The thing I’m not getting is, aside from a minor HRC mention, how does this help Trump again?

    Putin doesn’t like it when his hackers don’t stay on task.

  • chicken thief

    Augusta National will be yoogely embarrassed if Condi forwarded their denial of her request to have Colin join her in a future foursome, noting: While Augusta National has repealed its ban against women and Afro-Americans, we can not tolerate a foursome that contains less than three WASPs. Thank you in advance for your understanding and cooperation.

  • jowgajen

    Why is this in the news?

    • chicken thief

      Powell is still a thing with the moderate Republican (apparently there are still one or two left in America) and indie voters.

      • jowgajen

        I’d be interested in what Powell has to say on record. That would be news.

        I am really concerned about the health of our public discourse if even established media outlets are unable to make basic judgments about what is fit to print.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          “Hillary is dying of coughing!” – news

          “Donald’s entire life is a series of scams and grifts!” – not news

  • Poly_Ester

    An ex-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff dissing the Pentagon, once he moved up to State, imagine that.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Oh, he wasn’t dissing “The Pentagon”, as in the sense of the flag officers, but the fucking incompetent civilian slime at the top

  • Ducksworthy

    Who lost the war in Iraq? The conclusion that “it was that dope Rumsfeld and his team of optimists and amateurs” seems generous. It would be more accurate to describe them, and their boss Bremer, as a gang of libertarian ideologues and grifters. Incompetence and graft on that massive a scale do not fit under Rumsfeld’s observation that “shit happens”.

    • hendenburg2

      I dunno… Incompetence and graft are shit that happens

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Especially when you consciously put Milo Minderbinder in charge.

      • Thaumaturgist

        Milo always got something worthwhile in return.

        • Celtic_GnomePlorable

          Where’s my Egyptian cotton?

    • SpideySenser

      “There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.”
      Or in more succinct wording, yah, shit happens.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Rumsfeld couldn’t even find the WMDs Colin identified at the UN. What a dope!

  • Bitter Scribe

    Gee, this guy spends years working for and sucking up to politicians who won elections by sliming black people, and now he’s SHOCKED! that the party has nominated someone who doesn’t even bother to hide his bigotry. He’s about 8,402nd on the list of people I feel sorry for, right after the guy whose kids got mad at him after he spent their milk money feeding slot machines.

  • Alan

    So this benefits Clinton, right?

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Eh. Unless Powell had something concrete to refer to, like HRC was explicitly lied to about something and he named names, it ain’t really gonna help. Doesn’t hurt, but I think the media will treat it like yesterday’s news.

    • arglebargle

      I’m not sure it’s even good news for John McCain.

    • phoenix00

      ALLEGEDLY

    • going4baroque

      I would say only to the degree that the focus can successfully be misdirected to the Ruskies, … it’s not the content of the emails, it is one axi of the axis of evil, iron curtain enemy! Get the fear vibes going that our national security is at stake because the important thing is not that our politicians are being found out to be dishonest, and mean and etc, the important thing is who is responsible for revealing our politicians as they truly are? Transparency be damned!

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      I don’t think so. He’s very negative about both Clinton and Trump in his emails which fits into the media narrative of “both sides do it/they both suck”.

  • chicken thief

    Somewhere in the comfort of their respective homes, in locations that no one really cares, Jeb! and White Bobby Jindal weep silently that they are too inconsequential to receive any attention in Colin’s emails.

  • Crystalclear12

    As usual, to get honest answers from a Republican they have to be stolen.

  • Callyson

    Powell even told another email recipient that Trump thrives on negative attention, which is why Powell wouldn’t do another guest spot: “To go on and call him an idiot just emboldens him.”

    You know, I think he’s right about that…

    • mancityfooty .

      maybe the trick is to just ignore him

  • Redgyal

    Well, there’s a reason why the GOP worked so hard at shutting down Colin’s run for the nomination back in 2000.

  • Ellen D.

    A gmail account?

    He’s saying things he probably doesn’t want to be public knowledge in a GMAIL account? Oh good grief.

  • I think everyone in the government should use a private email server.

  • Paperless Tiger

    “After winning the war”, that’s a good one. The Coalition never really controlled anything but the Green Zone and some fire bases. The rest of Iraq was strictly ‘travel in force’. Supposedly they captured the president and handed him over to be lynched by a militia, an act of piracy. The pipeline, which may have been the sole objective, was not built. Meanwhile, the war rages on.

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      So he misspoke. I’m sure what he meant to say was, “After winning the war and finding all those WMDs I told everyone were there.”

  • Rick Hill

    A speaking appearance by Powell and it will only cost $25k. From him, that is.

  • hendenburg2

    And here’s how you know he’s still a Republican –

    He’s passing around conspiracy theories he heard about in the New York Post

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/09/14/colin_powell_emails_about_hillary_clinton_bill_clinton_and_bimbos.html

  • Hutch

    My take on all this is that Colin Powell is mad at everyone. #dickingbimbos, however, is inspired!

    • JeffWest

      Dick-A-Bimbo is my new bar game.

      • Hutch

        Honestly, the man talks like a soldier. Wait, wut?

      • chicken thief

        I thought it was everyone’s favorite bar game, though I never had any success at it.

  • chiefkurtz

    He’s come a long way, but has a long way to go to redeem himself for that farce he conducted at the UN.

    • theblackdog

      I’m still kicking myself for believing him back then.

    • Shibusa

      I often wished that he’d simply resigned, rather than go forward with that awful Iraq presentation to the UN. He knew it was all BS and he didn’t have the courage to quit. 5,000 dead US soldiers, countless more injured, tens of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians, a country in ruins, and for what? Oil?

    • Be Gin

      He cannot redeem himself.

      He is a war criminal.

      I know that sounds harsh. But can it possibly be as harsh as the pain, suffering and death that he, actively, brought about?

    • MonkeyCat

      That speech also elevated Zarqawi from a thuggish nobody into an international hero to the Islamists . . . and the rest is history.

  • WhyFelicia

    Who better to join the rump Administration than someone named Colin?

    • ViveLaRes

      So much for my 30-year crush on Colin Firth.

  • azeyote

    wait a minute – who was that guy, the one standing in front of the U.N. with his kindergarten props and a picture of a bus, revving up everyone’s scooter to get that there shock and awe jizz splattered all over Iraq – america wildly rejoiced – nothing like destroying a country that can’t fight back to feel like a real american –

    • Celtic_GnomePlorable

      If Iraq had been on oxygen, it would have been perfect.

  • artem1s
    • chicken thief

      Awesome! Gotta love the rich guys sometimes!

      OT…. this new math always puzzles me. In my old, alcohol soaked brain, $1M + $5M = $6M, not the $5M contained in the headline.

      ” If he raises $1 million, I’ll contribute $5 million.”

      • Celtic_GnomePlorable

        No, he said he’d donate 5X the amount. $1M x $5M = $5M.

        • chicken thief

          Right. But there is still the $1M that the Marine is putting in. So if the Marine puts in $1M then Richie Rich will put in $5M. That is $6M to my dumb ass.

    • Vagenda and Tiara

      I wish the media would be making a little noise over this story. Trump’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway deflected on CNN with “I hope if this man cares about veterans enough that he will donate the money any way.” The funny part is that Trump has been asked to prove that he is actually being audited by the IRS, and he will not even provide that. Conway also said “why should Trump have to prove he’s being audited?” The moderator said “so we should just take his word for it?”

  • jjdaddyo

    Have you ever watched Powell’s 1996 Replublican Convention speech? THE MAN IS A DEMOCRAT. The only thing I can think is that all those years in the military made him pathologically averse to admitting it.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=123273&page=1

    • Shibusa

      Well the Republicans certainly called him a Democrat (and worse) after he endorsed Obama over McCain in 2008.

    • Bemused

      Getting to General is a political game and he played it under Republican administrations.

    • Be Gin

      Once a person becomes a War Criminal that person no longer belongs in any political party. That person only belongs in prison.

  • (Nope, not Dorothy Parker, or even Tallulah Bankhead. Sorry.)

    Worldview: shattered!

    …Do I still get to keep, “If all the debutantes in New York were laid end to end, I wouldn’t be surprised?”

  • going4baroque

    and there was more that crossed my desk this morning, although the corporate media of USA USA USA would like the focus be solely on the head of Trump and the country of Russia (smiley face) as being the brunt of the day’s news, which it is, by half, the other half being provided by Powell’s email pal Jeffrey “rich guy” Hillary donor, who says allegedly “no one likes her” (no one, not “some”) and also reports, allegedly, that the Clintons hate President Barack Obama, that they call Obama “that man” (remind anyone of Walnuts – “that one”) Apparently you can take the boy and girl out of Arkansas, but they done packed up the deplorable and brung it with them. Another off topic, sorta, but factcheck.org tells us that indeed, friends (supporters) of Hillary for her 2008 presidential aspiration originally started questioning, wondering, if’ing whether Obama was actually BORN IN THE USA:
    https://youtu.be/jqUk0SMzkeI

    • Was there an actual sentence in there anywhere?

      • going4baroque

        I don’t know, I don’t look back, but it doesn’t seem like something I would write

        • Vagenda and Tiara

          Let me guess – Bernie Bro?

          • going4baroque

            let me guess – Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Sick bern, brah.

          • going4baroque

            LOGIC

          • Vagenda and Tiara

            Yaaassss, queen!

          • going4baroque

            See, that’s what I’m talkin’ about. The facts, to DWS, and to HRC, natch, never matter much, so don’t address the facts – your “let me guess – bernie bro” has its essential equivalent in the HRC camp when the issue is not what is revealed in emails. What DWS and HRC want the American public to be aware of is, not the content of the emails, but that THE RUSSIANS ARE INVADING, THE RUSSIANS ARE INVADING. It is really quite deranged. And your response is “don’t consider the facts” but “Bernie Bro”! The Russians Are Coming!, Duck & Cover!, But What About Trump!, ad nauseum. You have a nice day.

      • mailman27

        Kind of a Faulknerian feel.

    • Raan

      All I can think about when I hear “Born in the USA” is this:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bXzFY72wbs

  • ViveLaRes

    Powell should be doing much, much more to save the country from Trump. I hope I’m wrong, but for the last few years he has struck me as one of the “I’ve got mine, the rest of you are on your own” types. He got to a point where he had wealth and comfort enough for himself and wanted to check out and have a peaceful life. How fitting that his past is making him squirm while the party for which he sacrificed his integrity is imploding.

    • I’ve always gotten the feeling that he’s a bit like Log Cabin Republicans: Overcompensating on the conservative side to avoid people noticing he’s not the “right” kind of man.

  • suza

    Fodder for – if it’s a politician, vote it OUT! A POX on the whole damn lot. Every one seems to be a damn hypocritical, lying, untrustworthy, “FLUID” to the bucks, political PIMP!

    • Bemused

      Nope, I’m not going to hire a carpenter to fix my plumbing, either.

  • TeeRaak

    Bill Clinton Still Dicking Bimbos

    Say, you know who else is still dicking bimbos?
    http://therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/melania3.jpg

    • jesuswasablack
      • Vagenda and Tiara

        OK, as if I wasn’t already scarred by the Roger Ailes sex revelations.
        I’ve got two words for you, mister: TRIGGER WARNING!!!!!!!!

        • (((Gosala)))

          I took, “You asked for it” as a pretty fair warning.

          Anyway I didn’t click on it. And from the responses, which are not allowed, I’m glad i didn’t.

          • Sakonyachen

            You are smarter than I am apparently.

      • Raan

        In the immortal words of Danny Avidan, “I am going to vomit.”

      • Barley_Brains

        I am sure no one asked for that. Ow. My eyes. I am blind! But, now I’m suddenly free of pain. “O! The joy!”

    • Celtic_GnomePlorable

      You know, the more I see Melania, the less actual physical beauty I see there, which is about the only thing that motivates Donald.

      • TeeRaak

        1. People who are shallow and superficial judge people based on looks.

        2. People who are not smart tend to choose mates with similar intelligence.

        What does Donnie see in Melanoma? Exactly what he sees in himself.

    • ez

      You know she uses real Caviar because she smells like fish

    • Marceline

      It’s interesting how Melania has just vanished since the convention. I’m wondering if Trump went full Henry VIII and had her killed.

  • jesuswasablack

    Powell can say whatever he wants I say he and rice and all of the Bu$hco war mongers still belong here:
    http://www.supermaxed.com/images/FlorenceSM-DLR-1.jpg

    • Be Gin

      That place looks too nice for them.

      Perhaps a nice cozy spot in the steaming cesspools of hell would be more appropriate?

  • Electric Ukulele Land

    Hacked e-mails seem to becoming the celebrity sex tape of the political world. I’m not proud of that metaphor. And given the sourcing I’d trust it about as much as a ham sandwich left on the bus. Once again I’m not proud.

    Regardless of the integrity of the content, there’s also the aspect that Powell is still probably playing a bit to an audience — in the one exchange, with Condi Rice, for instance, bashing the boys at DoD is probably something one can slip into naturally when talking with your State Department friends. The idea that State would never have fucked up Iraq as massively as Rummy and Co. did is probably a popular conversational trope when reminiscing about the old days. Whether they could have actually effected a better post war Iraq policy — dubious — but then again, could it have been worse?

    I also get the impression is actually relationship with HRC is one of acquaintance than friend, so I wouldn’t get too worried about his assessment (beyond it being relentlessly hammered on by rightwing media), which is probably more of a media inspired creation than something that comes from actual observation (I get a little worried about all these assertions of her as power hungry and ambitious — leave your middle school copy of MacBeth’s Cliff Notes out of this you slackers). There’s an interesting point he raises about e-mails and their preservation as a matter of policy — something that is inherently conversational and not actually reflective of policy but crucial to how it is being shaped as opposed to its final form — but there’s also a fair amount of CYA going on here on his part (sure I told her to keep her emails in a way that wouldn’t be subjected to official records keeping, but did I ever say to use a *private* server in her *house*? — Gods No!) and really, my main take away from this is something I’ve suspected all along, and that is that Condi Rice is a lush.

    • BeachBum

      IMHO its all CYA.

  • BeachBum

    Colin Powell is a huge disappointment. Re Irag War Where Lots of People Died : He should have told the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth, about how he was lied to and, as a dummy, fell for it. We probably would have forgiven him. All the rest, to me, is just poor ass excuse making. Its been 14 fucking years and counting and what has he done ? Pride goeth before the fall and to me he is falling like elephant shit in a 2 bit circus.

  • Blender_415

    Nope, still don’t forgive them.

  • r m reddicks

    Powell (fun as these emails are) should stick to restoring vulvas.

  • Snopes Shop

    He need to clam up and start painting pictures of dogs in bathtubs,

  • LadyLaz

    He also had some damn rude things to say about hrc’s email but Colin Powell has been a bit of fresh air. Loving it.

  • Mike Steele

    Powell squandered his considerable cachet with that bald-faced, lyin’ performance at the UN, the consequences of which are ongoing and unforgivable. Condi was lolling with Shrub in the Adirondack chairs at the ranch when they chose to cavalierly dismiss the PDB which told them, the fuck, that bin Laden was coming – with airplanes. Thus, what either of them think about anything or anyone will remain meaningless to me. There’ newer, juicier gossip to be had on folks and topics more relevant, if that’s what floats your boat – let these two molder in the dustbin of history.

  • Celtic_GnomePlorable

    People cite Democrat’s lack of discipline as a weakness, but I’m not so sure. Reading the opinions of these people after the fact when they publicly supported all these actions at the time is ghastly.

    With Vietnam as a model, Democrats would have gone batshit crazy on their leaders if they’d been responsible for the Iraq clusterfuck.

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    It is nice to see what Secretary Powell really thought, but this changes nothing of my view of him. Much of Powell’s success is built on his near 40 year career of lying in the service of the Government. He was no more than a middling officer in the US Army until he went to Viernam in late 1968 to cover up the My Lai massacre of March, 1968.
    He proved to be such a competent liar that his career in the Army took off, eventually reaching the rank of 4 star General. His skill at lying during the first Gulf war helped him become the Secretary of State.

    • Rachel Book Harlot

      Powell has demonstrated that he is a terrible human being.

  • zanzibar_buckbuck_mcfate

    I love these emails.

  • Marceline

    So the real news here is that Colin Powell is a catty bitch.

    • Well…yeah. Rather like one of those really effective biopics that turns our perception of Icon X upside-down. Patton? Great leader but a loony. Amadeus? Brilliant musician, otherwise man-child idiot. Ed Wood? Crappy films, but a super-nice guy. Powell? Big muckety-muck neocon general, but a Mean Girl. Dig?

  • “To go on and call him an idiot just emboldens him.”
    But does it embiggen him?
    It’s a perfectly cromulent word.

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