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The Donald Trump campaign is very busily denying that the Republican nominee is in any way reconsidering his views on immigration, thanks to a Buzzfeed article over the weekend in which several of Trump’s Latino advisory group said they thought he might be open to something other than deporting all 11 million people in the USA without proper documentation. It’s a pretty interesting spin fest, with all the usual hallmarks of an impending change in Trump “policy” — which is never really policy anyway, just whatever squirrels are running around inside his head at any given moment. Trump scheduled and then cancelled a major policy teleprompter speech for Thursday on immigration, which means we’ll have to wait a while for him to deny he ever said he was going to deport everyone anyway, then offer a half-dozen other self-contradictory ideas on immigration which magically neither include a plan for deporting people nor any acknowledgment that he’s changed his mind. Fortunately, that’s not really what we’re looking at in this article anyway. No, what we’re looking at is one beautifully stupid thing Eric Trump said about his father’s immigration policy, whatever it may be, and why immigrants are very very bad.

Here’s Eric Trump ‘splaining to “The Fox And the Friends” Monday how his dad has the greatest, wisest immigration plan that he can’t tell you yet, but is just absolutely needed to solve our huge immigration problem:

But you know, my father’s immigration plan is pretty simple. He wants secure borders. You have to know who’s coming into the United States of America. You can’t let people come in unchecked. We have 100 million people in this country that are out of the workforce. Right? I mean we have manufacturing jobs in this country have gone down one-third since 2000. We’re losing jobs across the board, yet people are walking in unchecked and we don’t know who they are. And they could be ISIS.”

OK, that’s bullshit on the open borders nonsense and the ISIS fearmongering, but we’ve heard that already. Anything new, Eric?

Trump said his father “wants a safe country, and he also wants Americans to have jobs.”

“I mean, they should come first. You were born in this country. You were born here legally. You’re here legally. I mean, wages have been stagnant for the last 15 years and it’s because you have, you know, Syrian refugees coming in,” Eric Trump continued.

Uh huh. Between 2012 and November 2015, The U.S. admitted a whopping 2,174 Syrian refugees. Truly a flood — nearly 0.0007% of the American population — that has kept job growth flat somehow. Now, President Obama did commit last fall to taking in another 10,000 in fiscal year 2016, a goal the government seems likely to meet, so that’s an enormous drag on the economy right there, spread out across the entire population of 320 million.

Now, to be fair, Eric Trump did go on to blame Messicans for wrecking wages, too:

It’s because you have, you know, thousands of people coming over the border. I mean, and Americans are suffering because of it and that’s his point. So he’s speaking to Hispanic and Latino leaders and he’s having really amazing conversations. He’s also speaking to law enforcement, he’s speaking to border patrol. And you know he’s going formulate a really, really great plan that’s humane and ethical and that treats everybody well. But we have to solve the problem. It’s a real problem for this country.

GreatwonderfulAMAZING plans. So apparently these “thousands” of illegal immigrants have depressed wages across the economy, a cause which all economic experts named Trump agree on.

Just to double check — in the most scientific way possible — we googled “causes of wage stagnation” and searched for “immigration” and “immigrants” in the first few articles that came up. Like we say, sciencey! The Economic Policy Institute mentions “immigrants” exactly once — not as causes of wage stagnation, but as victims of it, since they may face difficulty “in simply getting paid for the work they do (i.e., the problem of ‘wage theft’).” The AFL-CIO, which you might think would have a motive to blame immigrants for flat wages, simply cites the EPI’s observation about immigrants being hurt by wage theft. Not found in Fortune, the Brookings Institution, Real Clear Markets, or the Pew Research Center. Oh! Oh! But The Cato Institute’s David Bier wrote a whole article on whether immigrants are causing flat wages! Let’s see what the Libertarian says — bet he can’t STAND those awful immigrants!

In addition to not being the “principal reason” for wage stagnation, immigrants aren’t any reason at all. As I pointed out in a paper last year, both economists who favor more immigration — notably Gianmarco Ottaviano of the London School of Economics and Giovanni Peri of the University of California at Davis — and those who don’t — most notably Harvard’s George Borjas — actually agree that immigration has increased average wages in the United States. The only real debate is over immigration’s short-term effect on wages for high school dropouts. Immigrants aren’t harming the “average family” at all.

Huh.

So like we were saying, this Eric Trump guy is not very smart, the end.

[TPM / Buzzfeed / Politico via Katie McDonough on Twitter / Guardian / Economic Policy Institute / AFL-CIO / Fortune / Brookings Institution / Real Clear Markets / Pew Research Center / Foundation for Economic Education]

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  • dslindc

    Eric has the dumb. The best dumb. Really tremendous stupidity!

    • Rick Hill

      Makes me wonder how he was raised. Instructors, hand picked by trump, hisself.

      • FauxAntocles

        And his butler did an AWESOME job!

    • Groundloop

      On a scale of Bigly to Yoooge, his dumb is definitely Tremendous. Possibly even Very Very.

  • Msgr_Moment

    We have 100 million people in this country that are out of the workforce.

    That reminds me, it’s time we get rid of all those takers who are on Social Security. Okay, okay, you worked your entire life, but what have you done for me lately?

  • Ezio
    • Vecchiojohn

      And the road apple doesn’t fall far from the horse.

      • arglebargle

        And the road apple doesn’t fall far from the horses ass.

        FIFY

  • Rick Hill

    Aside from that article, Oh, boy! Economic advice from libertarians. Yeah but free market. Only makers getting money, no takers, moochers need apply.
    How can you even try to have a say about income inequality if you are a libertard?

    • “Income inequality is caused by the poor being immoral and lazy. Except for me. I’m broke because of government regulation and taxes.”

      • Rick Hill

        Finally! Someone who “gets it”.

  • AntiDerpomeme

    Oh Dok, not once did you cite a RedState or Britebort article as part of your Googsearch. Clearly you are part of the liberal immigrant-licking conspiracy.

  • Joshua Norton

    So he’s speaking to Hispanic and Latino leaders and he’s having really amazing conversations.

    Donald just LURVES the Hispanics. Would he send so many manufacturing jobs that could easily be performed in the USofA down to Mexico if he didn’t?

  • Joe Beese

    Notice how The New York Times story never says what the Daily Mail’s defamatory claims are. The same… discretion seems to be in effect at most of the other web sites where I’ve seen this story.

    I don’t believe it’s out of consideration for Melania Trump’s tender feelings. (We can be confident that a model who enlisted to become Donald Trump’s third wife is not a Blanche DuBois type.) Nor do I believe that one can be sued for defamation by simply reporting, without representing it as true, what another newspaper said. (“MELANIA TRUMP SUES OVER HO CLAIM”) So I think that they’re simply trying to avoid a nuisance lawsuit from a corner highly likely to inflict one on them.

    The suit against the Daily Mail, on the other hand, will be much more than a nuisance – given the insane UK libel laws. Either it thinks the judgement will be an affordable price to pay for the circulation boost or it can actually prove this.

    Likelihood: Melania is a TOTAL HO. (allegedly)

    • FauxAntocles

      * psst, Dok mavericked on this one *

    • therblig

      so, whose wages is she flattening?

      • Joe Beese

        Honest hard-working American hos, that’s who!

        • therblig

          HOnest HOs, you say?

          • arglebargle

            I’ll see your Ho Ho and raise you a Ho…

          • FauxAntocles

            They certainly look like they have the Xmas spirit!

          • eddi

            The one in the middle looks like most of my Christmas photos. That sideways smirk.

          • nothingisamiss

            Is it time for War on Christmas season so soon?

          • Snopes Shop

            YES

  • Mezzaluna

    I also enjoyed the 1 in 3 Americans are out of the workforce. I imagine Eric didn’t account for children, retired and disabled people. Because they should be working too. Cradle to grave employment!

    • Rick Hill

      Everyone needs to contribute! Everyone who isn’t a trump, that is.

    • JohnBull

      There ARE workhouses.

      • eddi

        And debtor’s prisons.

    • FlownOver

      We had that, then they went and passed the Thirteenth Amendment.

  • Rick Hill

    Stay tuned to tomorrow’s episode where we swing back to refugees taking all our tax money and welfares.

  • therblig

    I’m sure top trump scientists will perfect trans-warp beaming before inauguration day and those 11 million illegals will find themselves on the south side of the rio grande looking north with no idea what happened. good brains = good plans.

    • FlownOver

      Kind of a sideways rapture, then?

  • Mr. Blobfish

    I mean 80 days out from the election and he still has no formal policies on anything, which could be humane or ISIS.

  • mackafritz

    ISIS might be hiding under your bed, Eric!

  • Joshua Norton

    Trump might as well spend all his money while he’s still alive. Once he kicks the bucket his kids are just going to blow anything that’s left on hookers, booze and dope. You can tell just by looking at them.

    • mackafritz

      I don’t know if he has ever spent his own money on anything. Other peoples money, yes.

    • Objectifer

      Between elephant killing excursions.

    • ThirdAmendmentMan

      What money?

      • eddi

        Most likely.

    • Dr.Zoidberg

      Actual photographic proof!

  • TJ Barke

    Yes, the flattened wages that have been a problem since the Reagan administration are totally because of Syrian refugees.

    • Ezio

      If “trickle-down economics” worked, the states who say it does wouldn’t have such low minimum wage.

      • TJ Barke

        Or such massive budget deficits.

  • Ezio

    Anyone else find it ironic how conservatives always say “the immigrants are taking our jobs” and then in the same breath say “they are too lazy and want to live off our tax dollars”? WHICH IS IT?

    • TJ Barke

      Whichever one is most convenient at a given moment.

    • Look Closer

      Plus conservatives love to ship jobs overseas. Their policies suck!

      • Ezio

        And then they get all the working class whites to blame and attack Mexicans or Muslims for all their problems.

        • Look Closer

          That’s the Republican MO. Divide and conquer.

    • mackafritz

      Aren’t the people who hire immigrants, conservatives? I don’t think many liberals hire immigrants and pay them chump wages.

    • JohnBull

      They’re the same people who scream about Millennials who “won’t move out of their parents’ basements” then scream at them for going into debt for buying a house.

  • beatbort

    Eric, like his dad, is reminiscent of a wind-up toy that has exactly two ideas on a tape loop. Ask him any question, then pull the string on his back, and one or the other idea will come out of his mouth. After five minutes, the Trumps are out of ideas, even though they have the best words.

    • eddi

      Trump has been pumping a dry well all year. He ran out of ideas during his announcement he was running for President. Right after the wall thing.

      • cousin itt

        Trump has been pumping a dry well all year. It’s not nice talking about Melania that way.

        • eddi

          ?…

        • IdRatherBeDancing

          That would require a working drill bit, no? I am skeptical.

  • Joe Beese

    This ridiculous pirouetting ought to disprove the idea that Trump doesn’t want to win the election. (Which is not the same question as whether he wants the job of President.)

    Which makes the fact of his amateur hour ground operation all the more damning. Apparently, that’s really the best he can do. (Though, given his business history, that shouldn’t be surprising.)

    • eddi

      Why should Trump spend money? That is the Republican’s job now that they work for him.

  • Creepoman

    Ok, I know most of you don’t like math, but the wage stagnation thing is pretty simple. For the past, oh, 40 years or so, American worker’s productivity has skyrocketed, while wages have stayed flat. Where did all the gains go? Into people like Donald and Eric’s bank accounts. Period. It’s not Mexicans, it’s not China, it’s not people on social security or SNAP. It is greedy bastards like fucking Eric essentially committing wage theft.

    • grindstone

      Thank you. My salary has not changed in years over a couple of different acquisitions. Meanwhile the CEO of my last company filed Chapter 11, broke the thing into pieces, sold it off, kept the patents and made millions. When we lose focus on the incredible wage gap, we lose the battle.

      • Creepoman

        That big wedge above “Average hourly compensation” and below “Productivity” is all the money that should be in workers’ pockets, but has been siphoned off by execs – rest assured, their wages have not stagnated.

    • There’s one chart Trump won’t be holding up at a rally.

      • eddi

        He will just change the top line to read “Immigration”. A big lie is the best lie.

    • goonemeritus

      If we push those hourly peoples pay down a little more will we finally get that booming economy we have been promised?

  • Well, he can’t very well say that wage stagnation is because the rich via the GOP have perpetuated an economic policy that has massively transferred wealth from the working class back to the aristocracy and that he’ll continue to implement this policy on steroids if elected.

    It must be those darned immigrants! Yeah… yeah… that’s the ticket.

    • Mezzaluna

      Eric personally can’t say those things because he not SMRT enough to know them.

  • (((JustPixelz)))

    Reptards like Eric Trump (and AOTK) need explain just HOW America became the world’s most powerful military, economic and cultural force while we had immigrants, progressive income tax, SEC regulations, minimum wage, etc.

    • eddi

      That is all a lie. America has gone down the road to Hell since Appomattox.

  • edith prickly

    ISIS would like to have a word with you, Eric…

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Now *that’s* an Isis I can get behind. Rrowr.

    • Hairstrike Alpha

      I’d like to know the secrets of Isis, under that dress….also, I believe she will use her powers to take down a crooked real estate agent.

  • Rock Drummer

    Geezus! The stupid runs rampant and deep in the trump lineage! Not one of the trump boys has ever done anything for anyone other than themselves.

    • Look Closer

      This is what they are all about.

      • lroom

        That pic makes me sick to my stomach. Worthless bastards.

      • janecita

        Cowardly assholes.

  • Mezzaluna

    What has the response been to Eric’s statements? Any challenges or questions, or did they just pat him on the head and feed him a live mouse as a reward?

  • Delu

    Hey Eric. Your Stepmom is an immigrant, and so was your Grandma.

    Why don’t you and your fellow immigrants and/or descendants of immigrants walk your own talk?

    • mackafritz

      Wrong color of immigrant.

      • Delu

        I dunno, the Irish immigrants were once as reviled as Hispanics are now.

        Color doesn’t really factor when you really want to hate something. Just make up a reason, hate doesn’t really need one anyway.

        • Mezzaluna

          They are different. They must be terrible people because they aren’t like us.

          • Delu

            Drawing lines is really easy, and since humans are predisposed to both fear of the unknown as well as having a sense of “in vs out groups”, making them act on those differences is even easier.

            Heck, football fans of rival clubs in the SAME COUNTRY can be incited to act upon simply that difference in opinion with violence. How much easier is it for 2 very different peoples to make up excuses about why the other should be feared and hated?

          • eddi

            The village one day away is full of witches. The one a week away is full of baby-eaters. Human nature has not changed. But we can learn to suppress the worst effects within ourselves.

          • Delu

            Can? Yes.

            Will?

            Well that all depends now doesn’t it? Just like it always has!

          • eddi

            I was brought up on the Thumper philosophy, “If you can’t say somethin’ nice, don’t say nuthin'”.

          • janecita

            His mother is an immigrant.

        • Erik Lonnrot

          Plus the latin@ ones are like a billion times sexier than the potato heads.

    • cmd

      Not to mention yo mama, right?

      • Delu

        Yo mama so…immigrant?

      • cousin itt

        Yo mama so fine, she could be my daughter.

    • Querolous

      Yeah, walk back to Scotland or Lower Slobovia.

  • memzilla

  • Dr.Zoidberg

    Baby Trump is approaching Orwellian levels of doublespeak!

    • Duke

      Can’t help it. Just trying to remember his lines.

      • eddi

        The GOP would pay good money for contact lenses that could act as teleprompters.

  • CutterTeam

    They used to use the unemployment rate to bash Obama. Then he reduced it from 10.5 to 4.9 percent, so now we get the Luntz-ian “number of people currently out of the workforce” bullshit.

    Just like one could say that Eric’s Dad has cheated on 67 percent of his wives, although I’m sure he’d tell us he’s cheated on 0 percent of his current wives.

    • Longstreet63

      And that’s down 20% from last year! Progress!

  • Mezzaluna

    Any speculation on how Trump’s base will wrap their pea brains around this major change in dealing with immigrants?

    • Delu

      Same way they wrapped their minds around him apologizing when he was the guy who never would.

      They won’t because they don’t have any minds to wrap around anything.

      • sw19womble

        Falafel-brained numpties.

        • The Librarian

          Yum, falafel, hmmm, brains….

    • mackafritz

      As he has said, he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and they would still support him. They have no thoughts of their own.

    • sw19womble

      HILLARY KILLED 4 AMERICAN SOLDIERS AND LIED!!!!!!!!!!

    • therblig

      same way they’re dealing with his outreach to african americans – ,”aw, hell, he’s jus telling the n**rs what they wanna hear to get their votes, but when he’s prezdent, he’ll take care of us real muricans!”

      • Duke

        Yep. He’ll give coded language and give multiple options that are intended to not offend the base while unoffending the previously offended. And the media will point that out and Trump will attack them for repeating what he said and discussing it.

        76 days.

      • eddi

        Funny. That’s just what African-Americans are saying about Trump’s “outreach”. Except they are not enthused about Donnie ‘taking care’ of them.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Another silver spooner born on third base who thinks he hit a triple. In an atavistic meritocracy, Eric Trump would be the first one cooked in a pot and eaten.

    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Nah. Too stringy.

      • cousin itt

        Up against the wall, then?

        • sw19womble

          Jerky.

          • eddi

            He already is.

        • Rufus T. Firefly

          If you mean a wall of votes, then, yes.

      • Blank Ron

        But easy to catch. Feed him to the women and children. They won’t complain.

        • calliecallie

          Or dogs. Dogs got to eat too. And Dogs will eat anything.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      My own objective social worth is somewhat questionable. I think I have atavisticmeritocraphobia.

    • Hutch

      None for me, thanks. He looks sickly.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        Bile and stupidity does make ’em taste a little gamy.

        • Blank Ron

          Try hanging him from his feet for a couple of weeks to age.

    • SnarkOff

      With votes.

      • janecita

        And potatoes

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    Does Eric Trumpf have a job? What, exactly, is he qualified to do?

    • beatbort

      Pick up chicks who dig the gold shit dangling on his wrists and neck?

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Kill large endangered animals in Africa?

    • Mezzaluna
    • Duke

      Busboy

    • Jeff in the desert

      He runs a whinery in Central Va for one thing and it disavows any connection to Donald J. Trump.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        The whole family is in the whinery business, in one way or another.

    • lroom

      Hide the bodies while listening to crappy 80s music.

    • Grokenstein

      Be his father’s son?

  • Indiepalin

    I think it’s those darn Syrian refugees who kept putting their trash in my garbage can. I wonder if Eric Trump has any thoughts on that.

    • beatbort

      Syrian dogs are shitting in my yard. I know it. It smells different or something.

      • Hutch

        It’s all that fattoosh kibble they eat! Monsters!

  • elviouslyqueer

    Eric’s word salad desperately needs a few more tomatoes and a splash of tasty vinaigrette to make it palatable. Oh, and some candied pecans on the side, for extra nuttiness.

    • sw19womble

      He definitely needs to spend more time tossing the salad.

      • cousin itt

        He’s totally a verbal tosser.

        • beatbort

          But he’s got the Caesar’s salad dressing covered.

          • cousin itt

            With anchovies or gtfo.

          • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

            I suspect he likes Santorum dressing on his tossed salad.

  • cousin itt

    How did Eric Trump qualify for his job?

    • elviouslyqueer

      His famous last name, a Wharton MBA, and a propensity for blowing goats, obvs.

    • Rufus T. Firefly

      The same way his father did.

  • Vincent Ricola

    Nepotistic dynasty heir says what?

    Oh wait, that’s right, unless it’s that combative Cuomo guy on the teevee, I don’t care.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Anyone who isn’t a complete moron should be able to deduce flat wages: the United States is the wealthiest country in the world, far and away. We are not the most populous country in the world therefore- as the wealthiest we should not have wage stagnation when other less wealthy, more highly populated countries are having wage growth. Obviously, since most immigrants are in the underclass, they cannot be the cause of wage stagnation since as the world’s wealthiest country wages in the US should grow like they do everywhere else. This would mean the overclass is the likely culprit of wage stagnation due to their increasing share of every dollar earned when money is apportioned due to economic activity. TA-DA!

    • beatbort

      B-b-b-but….that’s socialamism….OMG!

    • Longstreet63

      So…you’re saying it’s Melania’s fault?

    • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

      Stoopid Librul! Stop tryin’ a confoozle me wit yore dam facts and lojic! Trump is rite! Build the wall! BUILD THE WALL!!!

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    In Tucson, about 99% of the people who do roofing work are Mexicans. And not because they work cheaper or stole any gringo’s job, but because they are the only ones willing to work that fucking hard slathering hot tar on roofs in 112 degree heat. But by all means, lets punish them for that.

    • Lance Thrustwell

      It’s funny, the heat thing. I knew some Mexican ranch workers in South Texas. These guys would wear jeans, boots, and heavy, long-sleeved shirts on 100-degree days because they had to work in scratchy brush conditions. My puffy gringo ass would have fainted and baked in the sun.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        A friend of mine is building an adobe house out in the desert. He ended up hiring a migrant he met to help, a guy maybe 70 years old. My friend is by nature a real hard worker….grew up on a farm, is in the woodworking world like me. He tells me this old man just works him under the table by noon.

    • sw19womble

      This is how it’s always worked: immigrants come in and do the shitty jobs that have become “beneath” the natives.
      Then a small section of natives who aren’t smart enough, or are too lazy, to do the higher-paying jobs start to piss and moan and feel threatened… and political interests feed off of that in order to gain power for themselves.
      Until the next wave of immigrants arrive to do the jobs that the old immigrants are now too “cool” to do themselves.
      Rinse and Repeat.
      It’s only a surprise that each generation falls for the same con job.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        The agricultural and construction industries in Alabama melted down when they decided to run all the immigrants out of the state. All those jobs they were taking away from hard-working Americans? Guess what?

        • Suttree

          IIRC their tomato harvest rotted on the vines. I didn’t hear that much bitching about Mexicans afterwords.

          • eddi

            At least not where the rest of the country could hear and laugh at them.

        • TakingAmes

          It’s the chicken processing plants in Georgia. I mean, if you can’t even get the local undereducated African Americans to take the jobs…

    • Suttree

      I used to work in attics in Louisiana during the summer doing fire sprinkler installation. The one time I dared to bring a thermometer upstairs it was 140 degrees. You still won’t find me on a roof though.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I feel your pain, brother. I decided to rewire a house once in the summer. I think I lost 15 lbs. crawling around in the attic for two days.

        • Suttree

          I used to drink 2 gallons of water and change shirts 3 times a day. Ahh to be in my 20’s again. I was invincible!

    • orygoon

      I lived in Texas for decades, and there is no worse job in the world than that. I’d sooner steal rosaries from nuns than roof your house in the summer in that climate.

      • Sam Hain

        Been there, done that…Austin, and yes it sucked, we usually just did the rough framing, but got stuck putting the sub-roof down once…during the summer.Had to eat a banana in the morning to stop heat cramps and you’d drink a gallon of water and not have to piss, but your tool pouches would be soaked and then crust over with salt by the next morning.

  • smr06va

    Stoopid and unfuckable!!!!

    Per Chelsea Handler:

    “He’s the worst-looking person ever. I mean that face is just so unfuckable,” she said with a sigh.

    LMAO……….

    • cousin itt

      Handler? I wish.

      • starfanglednut

        Handler? I barely knew her!

    • Sadly, for those with a sense of justice, his wallet is incredibly fuckable.

    • Hutch

      I know I’ve posted this before, but this creature reminds me so much of Eric. Un-fucking-fuckable.

      • doktorzoom

        Would be better with Totoro standing next to it.

        • Hutch

          LOL! Totoro would provide a little shade, too!

    • IdRatherBeDancing

      I heart Chelsea Handler

    • tinker12

      That face may be unfuckable, but it sure as fuck is punchable.

  • Hutch

    “We’re losing jobs across the board, yet people are walking in unchecked and we don’t know who they are. And they could be ISIS.”

    ISIS is taking our JOBS?!? That’s his conclusion? You have to at least attempt to make the buzz words and dog whistles link up logically, Eric. What a maroon.

    • They’re doing the jobs that ‘murrican home grown terrorists don’t want to do!

    • Lance Thrustwell

      Radical Islamic Employment?

    • eddi

      Like his dad, there is no internal organization of the words coming out of his mouth. I didn’t know that was genetic.

    • TakingAmes

      I love how all these people say that we have no idea who these people are that we’re letting in. I mean, after getting to know someone for 18-24 months, plus making sure that almost none of them are single males of fighting age, the US government, plus the UN refugee agency, really don’t know anything about them at all. Obviously.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Shouldn’t Patrick Bateman be out picking up prostitutes so he can murder them now?

    • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

      “Do you mind if I call you Melania?”

    • eggsacklywright

      *puts on Huey Lewis cassette*

  • Oblios_Cap

    wages have been stagnant for the last 15 years and it’s because you have, you know, Syrian refugees
    Huh. I always had attributed that to Republican policies.

    • Blank Ron

      Well, now you know!

    • eddi

      Stagnant wages or Syrian refugees?

      • TakingAmes

        Yes.

  • orygoon

    After November 9, how quickly can we forget these people?

    • cousin itt

      Planck time?

      • tinker12

        To the Max!

    • eka

      we might be able to forget them, but we’ll never be able to forget that people we interact with on a daily basis actually believed them.

    • eddi

      They will be whining of Fox and the Trump Channel for 8 years.

    • The Wanderer

      It would give me great satisfaction to see the entire family stripped of all their assets and property and turned out onto the streets in only the clothes on their backs to fend for themselves while the cameras roll.
      How’s that for “reality TV?”

  • Oblios_Cap

    The apple don’t fall far from the tree, does it?

    • Duke

      You take that risk when you procreate.

      • sw19womble

        Pro Tip: stop shagging in the orchard.

        • Jeff in the desert

          Or listening to snakes…….

        • cousin itt

          Those apples don’t shag themselves, you know.

        • Duke

          Where’s the strangest place you’ve made whoopy?

    • Catstro

      To quote Jim Lahey, “when a shit-apple falls from a tree and grows up in a field of shit, It doesn’t have any choice.”

      Shit apple

  • azeyote

    it’s always the same – it’s not the employers fault – you have poor people getting their employers to pay them as little as possible so they can stay poor and have something to complain about –

  • Cranky Man

    Oh he’s smart enough. Scapegoating a segment of the population that is easy for the high school dropout to identify and hate. Try splaining intermediate economics, like marginal propensity to consume, to high school dropout. Go ahead, I’ll wait here.

  • limberrat

    Ok Eric, maybe you can encourage these people losing jobs to go work the jobs that the illegals and Syrians refugees are doing. Maybe YOU can try doing that job! Hello? Hello?

  • Jeff in the desert

    So, Eric runs a whinery in Central VA. I wonder who it is he hires to harvest grapes on them there vines…

    • sw19womble

      Trump University students, trying to pay off their loans?

      • theblackdog

        Likely they’re Liberty University students.

    • Hutch

      A bunch of poor Slovakian relations?

      • Jeff in the desert

        It ain’t a bunch of tabacky chewing poor rural white redneck folks…..

    • theblackdog

      Ooh, which whinery do I need to avoid?

      • Jeff in the desert

        TRUMP Whinery. Charlottesville, VA

        • theblackdog

          Well, I feel dumb for not thinking that he would want to plaster his name all over it just like daddy.

        • Erik Lonnrot

          The classiest wine growing region in the world I’m sure. I know my liquor store has had to totally close the France, Chile, and California sections just to make room for all that fantastic Virginia wine.

  • Crystalclear12

    Ethical and humane. . . hmmm. . . sounds familiar. But usually I hear it used concerning care and treatment of livestock.

    • eddi

      Where it is also mostly easily ignored words.

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    The Trump family is really, really full of extreme (I mean extreme) morons who are amazing communicators of bigly ideas. Believe me.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      They are both the best. With words. The best words. And, you know, numbers. The best, wordly. Words, the best. Everybody loves their words. I’m telling you.

  • TeeRaak
    • tinker12

      I’m gonna hafta give you a whoopin’!

  • The Librarian

    I’m not so very good at maths, but
    even I can eyeball (without doing percentages) that 2100 out of 320 million is a very small number. But whoa, add 10,000 more and the percentages skyrocket to the moon…..ooops – forgot the decimal point.

    Never mind.

  • SnarkOff

    To be fair to poor Eric, that kid has never worked a day in his life.

    • Reddishrabbit

      He has worked so hard!!! Kissing his dad’s ass is a full time job.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        And the immigrants have stolen all the Chapstick!

  • On the one hand, immigrants are causing wage stagnation, but on the other hand, raising wages would cause massive unemployment. So, by their own reasoning, the only thing keeping down the unemployment rate is illegal immigrants.

    • SessileRaptor

      Kali would run out of hands listing all the contradictions in right wing “policy”

  • Oblios_Cap

    I figure both those Trump boys have murder rooms in their homes.

    • chicken thief

      Just imagine the size of the crawl space under Trump Tower!

  • doggiedaddy

    “… illegal immigrants have depressed wages”
    Yet Trump doesn’t believe in a minimum wage and that the american worker is paid too much already.
    I’m so confused.

  • beavertank

    I sure am glad we’ve got this silver spoonfed American Psycho asshole to tell us ALL about how to fix the economy when he has no experience with trying to find a job, no experience with doing a productive job, and no background or training in economics or immigration.

    After all, the rich prick kid of a rich prick knows from hard work and the plight of the little man.

  • OneWhiteWhisker

    I’m always amazed that Eric Trump can get any words at all out of the spit-soaked parrotfish orifice that is his mouth. Boy got whacked with a gold-plated ugly stick.

    • Treg Brown

      “spit-soaked parrotfish orifice that is his mouth”.

      I don’t know you at all, but on the basis of this one comment, will you please be my best friend?

      • eddi

        The vituperation around here is positively poetic. Like the Irish bards of old, whose satires caused the powerful to cringe in shame.

        • The Wanderer

          I much prefer the Divine Pietro Aretino.

          • eddi

            I had to look him up. But he seems to have rubbed the right people the wrong way. “Scourge of Princes”. That’s a job description to wear with pride.

      • OneWhiteWhisker

        Sure!

  • Thaumaturgist

    The only reason I voted all those times for Trump in the primary was The Donald rounding up all those Messicans and such and sending them back home, in chains. If I had known The Donald was going to go soft on me, I would have voted for that Camadian fellow.

  • Portia McGonagal

    It’s been obvi for a while that Ivanka got what there was in the looks and brains Trump genetic pool (and I’m not saying there was a lot to start with).

  • Bad Granny

    He may not win any awards for brilliance, but he managed to fill out his bingo card pretty efficiently.

  • Vegan and Tiara

    “…in which several of Trump’s Latino advisory group said they thought he might be open to something other than deporting all 11 million people…”

    Why do I picture Trump’s Latino advisory group consisting of a bunch of white men, and possibly one token blonde white lady?

    Also, too, if Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to America, why not start with his own crappy products?

    • eddi

      I cannot find any names of Hispanic advisors on Trump’s campaign. Is Dok referring to his meeting with the GOP’s committee?

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        yes XD Trump surrogates are calling it his own personal pet pocket Hispanic advisory group because they met with him and words were exchanged.

        • eddi

          That clarifies the issue. Thanks. Basically then Donnie said what the Republican Hispanics needed desperately to hear to support their unsupportable position. So net shift in Trump’s ‘deport them all’ is most likely zero.

          • SullivanSt

            Remembering, of course, that the current composition of the GOP committee is “the people who are left after the ones with a conscience quit because of Trump”.

      • Vegan and Tiara

        It’s probably just Reince Preibus.

        • Serai 1

          We know it ain’t Marco Rubio.

  • medcannabis1

    the ” turd doesn’t fall far from the asshole”….

    • eddi

      Best riff on a classic cliche today.

    • Gentle Robot

      This reminds me of the time I took a shit at the top of the Sears Tower

  • ImGoingBacon

    To be fair, Eric did say his father has a plan, which is allegedly simple. However, this portion gives me pause:

    ‘And you know he’s going formulate a really, really great plan that’s humane and ethical and that treats everybody well.’
    Shouldn’t he have a somewhat detailed plan by now? Kind of a serious question. I realize we are talking about Trump, but still.

    • eddi

      Policy is for losers. He will shoot from the hip as always. And hit his balls as always.

    • Gentle Robot

      They’ve got a chant. Have you heard the chant?
      They’ve only had 13 months to work this out. Give them a break.

    • Mason

      Plan? They’ve never had a plan…well except for continued ‘personal insults’ and not having a plan on anything. I mean he’s going to make it up as he goes along, that’s what he does best.

    • Usedtobeyellerdawg

      And you know he’s going formulate a really, really great plan that’s humane and ethical and that treats everybody well.’ And it will be a great solution, finally. A great final solution!

    • anna rampage

      Seeing that the Nazis truly believed the holocaust was a humane action, I’m really looking forward to seeing what tRump ends up proposing….

      • DemmeFatale

        I’m always suspicious when I see the word “humane”.
        Especially when referring to a human being.
        Especially by an idiotic wild animal killer, or his deranged father.
        Just what do they consider “humane”?

    • Serai 1

      He DOES have a plan! It’s a HUGE plan! It’s so amazing, your head will explode! But he’s not going to tell you! No, no, of course not. He wants to remain UNPREDICTABLE!

      Because that’s what we want in a president – unpredictability. We never want to know what he might do next! It’s so much more FUN that way! Yes, it is! Where are you going? Come back!

    • Biel_ze_Bubba
  • Jen_Baker_VA

    You know what would free up stagnation and clear up some of the undocumented worker problem to boot?
    Make all undocumented workers citizens and force the fuckers who pay them shit wages to pay them full wages.

    • doktorzoom

      Madness! Just because it worked under Reagan is no reason it would work now! Because illegal immigration didn’t stop! True, those who were amnestied did turn out to be pretty successful. But it’s not faaaaaaaaaiir.

      • The Wanderer

        Wasn’t the last person who said “Life is fair” shot the following morning?

    • chicken thief

      Bringing all them ill-eagles out of the shadows would also too fix the projected SS deficits due to all us Baby Boomers retiring.

      But who cares about fixing deficit problems when ILL-EAGLES!11!11!!!!

      • SullivanSt

        Given a decent chunk of them are currently paying into SS on numbers they’ll never be able to claim retirement for, it’s murky what effect normalizing their status would have on solvency.

        Of course, that’s not really a great reason to keep effectively stealing their money.

        • Biel_ze_Bubba

          I wish some ill eagles would start contributing to my SS fund. How do I get my number out there?

    • Villago Delenda Est

      The usual suspects like undocumented workers, because they’re undocumented and they can hold that over their heads to prevent them from going to the government to seek better working conditions, unstolen wages, etc.

      Start putting the employers who hire (sort of) undocumented workers in jail for doing so.

      Hit the demand side. With the force of a speeding 18 wheeler.

      • Serai 1

        Yep. People won’t risk their lives to come to a country where it’s really fucking hard to find a job.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Funny how that never happens. If you’re an employer of illegals at shit wages, you can pay the fine if you’re caught, and still come out ahead.

  • chicken thief

    “…he’s speaking to border patrol….”

    Huh?! I thought Obama fired all the border patrol agents so all the murdering rapist messicans and their ISIS friends could just sashay across the Rio Grande and take our jerbs.

    • Usedtobeyellerdawg

      No, he just restructured it. Now, instead of carrying guns and keeping the Messicans out, they carry bullhorns and patrol the border shouting, “Come on in! Wages are too high!”

  • AngryKatie

    The Economic Policy Institute blames GOP policies at local, state and federal levels. Of course this is a foreign paper, so it’s probably way less reliable than the Trump offspring most closely resembling a rodent/amphibian hybrid.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/11/us-economy-recession-republicans-hillary-clinton-policy

    • The Wanderer

      As you say, it’s foreign, and therefore suspect to these nativist dingbats. But I’d like to see a rodent/amphibian hybrid – something in a nice mouse/treefrog combo.

      • AngryKatie

        That seems like a much better mix than weasel/axolotl, which is how I think they got that Trump boy.

  • Debbies are like snowflakes

    I am kind of impressed at the Cato Institute’s David Bier being so honest about the effects of immigration (ie, that it has actually caused wages to rise). I guess I always expect right-wing ideological BS from Cato, and there Bier goes, spoutin’ facts. Could my expectations be unwarranted?

    • Brendan_M

      Give the Kochs a few years to complete their hostile takeover of Cato, but for now there are lots of principled, if inherently silly, libertarians there. Heritage is the laughably dishonest and racist right-wing “think tank” and is, of course, much more influential than Cato.

    • hendenburg2

      You would expect the Cato Institute to be absolutely pro-illegal immigration. Wage depression and theft are tools of the Free Market, after all!

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Whoever paid for the “study” must have had other priorities, and didn’t instruct him to bash immigrants.

  • Bitter Scribe

    “Secure the borders” is always their default position. It’s what Rubio kept parroting after support for his path-to-citizenship plan evaporated.

    Oh, and I don’t suppose Little Trump mentioned the Great Wall that Mexico will pay for?

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Trump will build it, then not pay the contractors, and they’ll get the money from Mexico, somehow. You just know that Trump is going to formulate a great plan.

  • Callyson

    wages have been stagnant for the last 15 years and it’s because you have, you know, Syrian refugees coming in

    • Serai 1

      tl;dr

    • SullivanSt

      Yeah, was disappointed that Dok just blazed right past that 15 years bit and into “since 2012”

  • bookish

    I saw this yesterday on NBCNews. The Latino pols have already had a taste of Trump, and yet ever hopeful, they’re back for more.

    http://nbcnews.to/2bPU8HR

  • Doug Langley

    I know it’s coincidence, but I just saw a Columbo rerun where the murderer was a construction expert. He was almost as arrogant as the Trump people.

  • Blackest Noobs

    i sometimes wish for a class war….because, though it could be bloody, the wealthy would eventually lose….my reasoning…just look at rich brats like Eric Trump who thinks it’s manly to hunt elephants and giraffes, rich assholes like himself have NEVER actually faced a challenge, never had to prove themselves not a coward, never had to do anything complicated in his whole life.

    compared that to rest of us, who have to make ends meet, provide for our families with our shitty incomes, we face struggles all the fucking time, and we make do with what we have…we adapt, we overcome…and if came to a class war, we would kick the ever living shit outha these assholes.

    • Me not sure

      I’ll meet you at 2:00 to get started. Wear sturdy shoes ( the first rule of class warfare, I’m led to believe).

    • kareemachan

      Not just big scary animals either….

      • Ducksworthy

        Is that an anteater?

      • mailman27

        What an asswipe. Beneath contempt.

    • SullivanSt

      The rich might not be able to fight for themselves, but they can hire mercenaries :(

      • Blackest Noobs

        sure, i did say it would get bloody, but even merc won’t save the rich. sure sure there’s some soldier of fortune who would do anything for money…but for the most part these guys are chumps, washed up shitbags the military didn’t want anymore, or ammosexuals who think with enough ammo they can do anything….they cannot.

        you can have the best hardware around, and all the training you want but history has proven to us time and time again (Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan at least 3 different conflicts) if the people fight back, even with meager means, can kick the shit outha the mighty mercs and all their toys….i mean think about it….the USSR thought they could annex Afghanistan, and this was at the zenith their military might, and they had to turn tail and run.

        again yes….it would be bloody but the rich cannot win it.

    • Jonny On Maui

      I agree with your assessment. If a class war did break out the rich would lose eventually in a war of attrition, there’s far fewer of them.

      But are you really ready for the body count? I’d posit casualties greater than our first civil war by orders of magnitude.

      And then the surviving victors, looking back on the cost, would make the French of the late 1700s look like pansies.

      • Blackest Noobs

        well i did say i sometimes wish but don’t really want…but just the right-wingers’ ridiculousness….i mean sometimes…it’s just beyond pale…maybe almost “enough to make a shy, bald, buddhist reflect and plan a mass murder”…but really all im really saying is the wealthy…you better start minding your p’s and q’s..or like they did with ’em rich fucks in france…there will be a reckoning…we shouldn’t have to come to that point.

        but it’s hard to tell if we’ll just repeat history or learn from it.

        i guess we’ll see…enjoy the ride y’all!

        • Jonny On Maui

          The pendulum is starting to swing our way…

      • Blackest Noobs

        but also i just want to punch Eric Trump in the face, like right on the nose.
        if i have to punch someone…it’s my GO TO spot to punch.

        same goes for Trump Jr.

        i would just slap Donald.

  • I Only Like Cats

    If we increased funding to high schools and helped more people graduate/get educated we wouldn’t have to worry so much about the short term effects on their jobs.

    • TakingAmes

      And if Republicans hadn’t done everything in their power to cut funding for practical job training programs, we wouldn’t have to worry so much about the loss of manufacturing. But as it turns out, they don’t actually care about people.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Qusay is a dumbshit.

    Film at 11.

  • The Wanderer

    By Klono’s sapphire nosehairs, that acorn didn’t fall far from the tree, did he? He strikes me as dumber than his dad, and less smarm and ass than his older brother.

    • hendenburg2

      “less smarm”… are you accusing him of having a redeeming quality?

  • Michael Smith

    How droll to identify the real problem, but offer a corrective action that is completely unrelated to the problem, but that tickles the barely-suppressed rage fantasies of your supporters.

    • MOG253

      I love this comment, but it’s too long for a t-shirt.

      • SDGeoff

        I bet someone would make a tattoo out of it.

        • SisterArtemis

          I think I’d turn that one down…

          • SDGeoff

            It would hurt a lot too.

  • doggiedaddy

    Family gatherings must really be a blast at the Trump house.
    And confusing.
    http://i.imgur.com/WsMGTdv.gif
    And…That Boy Ain’t Right x10
    https://media.giphy.com/media/129fSchexp3aPC/giphy.gif

  • SeekingBarbie

    How is it that obscenely wealthy derps can’t manage to hire hair stylists who advise them that slicked back hair is repulsive and makes them look like 50s gangsters? The men in that family have a defective hair recognition gene.

    • MOG253

      The rich are very different from you and me. And their hair sucks. Just say’n.

    • SullivanSt

      Hahahaha, like rampant sycophancy isn’t a baseline requirement to be allowed within a mile of a Trump.

      • SeekingBarbie

        There is that…..

    • jmk
      • Jeffery Campbell

        You really shouldn’t wear your chinchilla to the mahjong table,

        • blondeiq

          Quite right. Beaver is the fur of choice. She’ll never mahjong in this town again!

          • Jeffery Campbell

            Oh, I don’t know. That Hadassah dip hairdo will be hard to beat!

        • jmk

          From the look on her face in every photo I’ve ever seen of her, I’d say that you’d have had to pry that chinchilla off Mary’s back with a crowbar after knocking her out. I’ll bet she wore her furs everywhere.

  • Ricky Gay

    the nut does not fall far from the squirrel

  • calliecallie

    Didn’t I see something about Trump hiring Polish immigrants to work on one of his projects and then he didn’t pay them? Wage theft, amirite?

    • SisterArtemis

      gotta pay for those gilded trump logos somehow!

    • The Wanderer

      Quite true.

  • SullivanSt

    You know what does depress wages?

    Dirtbag employers who steal their employees’ tips and scheister corporations who fuck over their contractors on the regular.

  • Serai 1
  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    “And you know he’s going formulate a really, really great plan…”

    Will that be before or after the GOP plan for replacing Obamacare?

    • phoenix00

      Both

  • theblackdog

    Well this is what happens when you get policy advice from South Park

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWNho8g0lsU

  • That’s Eric “Odo” Trump.

    • CatCope

      Damn, M, I was racking my lil’ brain of who eric looked liked! YOU NAILED IT!
      Odo!!!! Right ON!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • phoenix00

      https://i.imgur.com/JUoRIM0.jpg
      With nowhere near the intelligence.

  • Relativicus

    If you donate money to the Trumpaign, you have a chance to win lunch with Eric. Among all the other benefits, you’ll have an opportunity to discuss campaign strategy.

    This may not answer all the questions surrounding the Trumpaign — like “What the fuck?” “No, seriously, what the fuck?” and “Can anyone tell me what the fuck?” — but it does answer a couple.

    • revenant

      not to worry- with the sage counsel of Lumpy (aka “the dumbest anchor on Faux News) this will all get sorted out
      hehehaha..whew

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    “And you know he’s going formulate a really, really great plan that’s humane and ethical and that treats everybody well.”

    This quote tells me two things. One, Deadbeat has never had an immigration plan. The wall bullshit is for the white supremists he’s pandering to. And two, Deadbeat II is admitting that the “plan” he has now, i.e. the wall, is inhumane and unethical. How can anyone, even nazis, take these people seriously? They are obviously unfit for…pretty much any position of trust anywhere.

    • Gil

      Sad

  • Kele Lampe

    Checking in from rural Colorado. Here, farmers have posted huge “help wanted” signs *in Spanish* by the highways beside acres of untended orchards because none of the flood of immigrants seem to be taking any of the agricultural jobs. Some bright entrepreneur built an entire apartment complex to cater to Mexican seasonal workers. I think he’s rented six. So…not so much with the Trumps on this.

  • jmk

    “So he’s speaking to Hispanic and Latino leaders and he’s having really amazing conversations.”

    I’ll bet they’re “amazing,” Eric, cupcake. I’ll bet they leave the other participants feeling like they’ve been hit in the head with bricks, and thinking – in amazement – “what the actual fuck???? This guy is running for president???”

    • glennisw

      Those conversations are “unbelievable!”

      • jmk

        Bigly!!

  • JParkerSD46

    Obviously, the fine young lad has learned logic and word-salad from dear old dad.

  • Poly_Ester

    “High school dropout is a rather succinct characterization of a Trump voter.

  • M.P.

    Eric sounds like a graduate of the Trump University School of Economics.

    • WhyFelicia

      He only got in as a legacy student.

    • blondeiq

      If brains was lard, that boy ain’t got enough to grease a pan.

  • Alexander Stallwitz
  • mailman27

    Is this guy one of those two pricks photographed holding dead leopards and elephant tails? If so, fuck him. Big time.

    • phoenix00

      That’s an affirmative

  • Zyxomma

    I’ve been having trouble finding work. It has nothing to do with immigrants, and everything to do with age.

    • Peripatetic Poltroon

      No, it’s all those old immigrants. Stealing our old people white collar jobs.

  • glennisw

    My question is – which Trump son is Uday and which is Qusay?

    • Gil

      Hard to tell the buck-tooth greaser creeps apart…Partly my fault…I avoid looking at them…

      • Ken Glenn

        Democrats, the party of envy.

        • 1bestdog

          repugnantones the party of stupid

    • Jeffery Campbell

      They are the same being – it’s done with mirrors.

  • Peggy Ryan

    Just ONCE I would like some reporter to ask Dump if, when he talks about bringing jobs back from China and Mexico, he is going to have his ugly hats and ties made in the USA.

  • WampusKat

    Odd coincidence: Trump and Co. sound exactly like these people:

    Deutsche Welle: “PEGIDA, neo-Nazis, and organized rage”

    “Germany’s well-organized neo-Nazi scene is merging with the
    anti-Islamization PEGIDA movement. They’ve become an integral part of
    the group’s weekly marches – and they appear to be tolerated by
    organizers.”
    http://www.dw.com/en/pegida-neo-nazis-and-organized-rage/a-18212964

    It’s uncanny how much of a coincidence this is: “Why Europe Is Right to Fear Putin’s Useful Idiots – The Kremlin’s support for right-wing parties is no game. It’s trying to subvert the European idea.”
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/23/why-europe-is-right-to-fear-putins-useful-idiots/

    Coincidentally, form the Associated Press (yesterday): “Racism and talk of religious war: Trump staff’s online posts”
    https://apnews.com/d98c99e8626549d984d3695ac6ef589f/Racism-and-talk-of-religious-war:-Trump-staff's-online-posts

    Huh, coincidences on top of coincidences: http://www.irehr.org/2014/04/17/bundy-standoff/

  • blondeiq

    Here’s the part I don’t get: either the immigrants are lazy and taking your taxwelfarefoodstampscrablegs, or they’re taking your jobs away. Which is it?

  • richardgrabman

    Scrodinger’s immigrant:

  • goonemeritus

    I figured Trump postponed his speech because he hadn’t quite figured out whether to include Belgians in the list of people to deport.

  • Donkey Option

    Why is it the immigrants and not the people intentionally hiring illegal immigrants so they don’t have to may them minimum wage or pay taxes on them that are the problem. Seems to me that it’s the Americans who intentionally exploit immigrants who are the bad guys here. But then, I may be a little brighter than Eric Trump.

    • ahughes798

      That’s what kills me about this whole mishegas. Fine the hell out of the companies that hire illegal immigrants. If the companies that hire them are caught again, triple the fines, and arrest the CEO and COO. Third offense…they lose their license to do business in the US. No need to deport anyone. Start enforcing the laws on the business end.

  • Guinnessmonkey

    Right. Immigration depresses wages. That explains why the areas of the country with tons of immigrants are doin’ just fine economically (thank you very much) and the dead-ender areas (West Virginia, Kentucky, etc.) tend to be very, very white.

  • myexisinthetrunk

    So is Eric a clone or a drone? Are his genes mutating as he speaks or is his circuitry fritzing out with bolts of electricity shooting from his tin foil wrapped “head”? Either way his bs has a familiar ring to it. I think we could all humm a few bars with interspersed ADJECTIVES.

  • Mitch Akaboula

    Eric Trump is as bright as his father. Enough said.

    • John Smith

      How many billions does a stupid man have to make??Troll

      • Mitch Akaboula

        So Trump is a Billionaire? He was born the son of a multi-millionaire who bailed him out several times and left him a few bucks when he died.

        We’ll see how many millions he pays in taxes when he releases his tax returns. Apparently he is not stupid enough to pay income taxes like most of his supporters.

      • 1bestdog

        not many if he inherited millions and cheated and stole the rest

  • Jado

    You seem to be using facts in your argument. You’re never going to win the debate that way, you know…

  • harryeagar

    Dunno how it is where you are, Dok, but where I live immigrants have certainly depressed wage scales for general construction work.

    So, too, did former union guys who dropped their memberships after the Bush Crash in order to get the suddenly much scarcer jobs. They pushed rates down from $60 to $15 but it didn’t help them because illegals offered to do the same work for $6.

    If you are going to sick with the immigrants-don’t-depress-wages stance then you’ll have to give up the Disny-replaced-Americans-with-cheaper foreigners argument.

    • SadieLechner

      How about you talk to the people who are actually hiring these $6/hr. immigrants and ask why they’re breaking the law by hiring these workers. Anyone who pays someone $6/hr. doesn’t give a rat’s ass about workers. They just care about sucking in as much as they can and fuck American workers. Immigrants don’t depress wages; unethical employers do.

      • harryeagar

        Why? Because they like to pay less. I am not talking about developers but ordinary Joes who are ‘owner-builders’ and so not required to have a contractor’s license. I agree they should not do it but there is no way to stop them. Might as well say, also, that you want to pay more for peaches at the supermarket because if labor exploitation stops on the farms, prices will go up. So you’re complicit as much as the people who hire illegals for construction work. It’s what Americans do.

        • SadieLechner

          I’d pay more for any produce if it meant people were getting living wages. It’s the right thing to do. There are probably a lot of people who don’t agree with me, but there are also many who do. I’m not sure which group you’d like to be in.

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