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Sure, go ahead and vote for him, but you don’t get a parachute

Reading Donald Trump’s Wednesday interview with the New York Times, we were struck by the thought that he actually hates America. Holds it in contempt, at least, and thinks it’s a pathetic thing that might be just salvageable by the super-genius Donald J. Trump, maybe, we’ll see.

The transcript of the interview shows that Trump knows very little about the world and America’s place in it, believes a great deal of deeply anti-American things that simply are not true, and lacks the judgment to be trusted with a choice of movie night, let alone the nuclear codes. “Oh, you rented ‘Daddy Day Camp’, huh? Great….”

In a rambling, pugnacious, sneering dismissal of American bipartisan foreign policy of the past 75 years, Trump called our allies grifting parasites, mused on the possible upside of a North Korean victory in 1950, and said the United States lacks the moral standing to criticize autocrats who lock up and torture dissidents. Oh, and we can’t afford our war machine, either, which anyway is weak and obsolete. All of this was stated in the constantly equivocating word salad that Trump employs when bullshitting about topics on which he’s ignorant. It reads as if Noam Chomsky and Sarah Palin had co-written a foreign policy speech, and had it delivered by a hungover Huey Long.

NATO, Schmato
NATO, Schmato

Trump: NATO Is A Racket

Speaking with the Times’ David Sanger and Maggie Haberman, Trump reiterated the nonsense he frequently throws into his standard stump ramblings, that the 28-nation North Atlantic Treaty Organization became obsolete 25 years ago at the end of the Cold War, and the United States is being played for suckers in providing the bulk of the alliance’s military muscle.

Trump wants to make the U.S. commitment to NATO’s mutual defense pact more of conditional offer, subject to credit checks and local dealer availability:

TRUMP: If we cannot be properly reimbursed for the tremendous cost of our military protecting other countries, and in many cases the countries I’m talking about are extremely rich. Then if we cannot make a deal, which I believe we will be able to, and which I would prefer being able to, but if we cannot make a deal, I would like you to say, I would prefer being able to, some people, the one thing they took out of your last story, you know, some people, the fools and the haters, they said, “Oh, Trump doesn’t want to protect you.” I would prefer that we be able to continue, but if we are not going to be reasonably reimbursed for the tremendous cost of protecting these massive nations with tremendous wealth — you have the tape going on?

SANGER: We do.

HABERMAN: We both do.

TRUMP: With massive wealth. Massive wealth. We’re talking about countries that are doing very well. Then yes, I would be absolutely prepared to tell those countries, “Congratulations, you will be defending yourself.”

Trump likes to claim that the United States pays “the lion’s share” for NATO, which is a lie. The U.S. pays less than $500 million a year to directly support NATO, less than a tenth of one percent of our total defense budget, and about 22 percent of the total NATO budget.

The U.S. spends about twice as much as most NATO allies on defense, as a percentage of gross domestic product, because the U.S. decided after 1945 that it was a lot cheaper to deter wars by having the biggest stick, than to wind up in another global conflagration. The U.S. military is deployed around the world, with 10 aircraft carrier battle groups, while NATO is mainly a static garrison force in Europe (although the fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan was a NATO mission).

Now we know, hippies, American hegemony didn’t end war, and led to Vietnam, Iraq, etc. Those were horrific wastes of human life, but no war on earth compares to the scale of death and devastation around the globe from 1937 to 1945. American partnership in European cooperation and mutual defense changed what had been one of the most war-torn parts of the earth for millennia.

You know how ignorant people say the U.S. should just abandon the Middle East “because those people have been fighting since the Stone Age”? Many Americans, specifically supporters of the “America First Committee,” said that about Europe before 1945. Trump seems to think it a bad thing that western Europe traded in mass conscription and militaristic cultures for tiny armies that can’t operate without one another.

Watch this if you don’t believe (seriously, watch it; it’s terrific):

Sure, some NATO countries have been a little slack in their spending commitments; Obama’s even criticized them for it. But that’s been changing since Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea two years ago, and now is probably the worst possible time to signal to Russian strongman Vladimir Putin that America thinks some parts of NATO are less worth defending than others.

Or, if you’re Trump lickspittle Newt Gingrich, defending the indefensible, it’s the PERFECT time:  GingrichEstonia

You know that if Obama or Hillary Clinton had said anything like this first, Republican hawks in Congress would have called for impeachment hearings.

Trump: Everyone Else Sucks, Too

This is running long, so let’s look at the dumbest, least-informed thing Trump said, about the Korean peninsula:

TRUMP: How is it helping us? How has it helped us? We have massive trade deficits. I could see that, if instead of having a trade deficit worldwide of $800 billion, we had a trade positive of $100 billion, $200 billion, $800 billion. So how has it helped us?

SANGER: Well, keeping the peace. We didn’t have a presence in places like Korea in 1950, or not as great a presence, and you saw what happened.

TRUMP: There’s no guarantee that we’ll have peace in Korea.

SANGER: Even with our troops, no, there’s no guarantee.

TRUMP: No, there’s no guarantee. We have 28,000 soldiers on the line.

SANGER: But we’ve had them there since 1953 and ——

TRUMP: Sure, but that doesn’t mean that there wouldn’t be something going on right now. Maybe you would have had a unified Korea. [Wonkette bold] Who knows what would have happened? In the meantime, what have we done? So we’ve kept peace, but in the meantime we’ve let North Korea get stronger and stronger and more nuclear and more nuclear, and you are really saying, “Well, how is that a good thing?” You understand? North Korea now is almost like a boiler. You say we’ve had peace, but that part of Korea, North Korea, is getting more and more crazy. And more and more nuclear. And they are testing missiles all the time.

SANGER: They are.

TRUMP: And we’ve got our soldiers sitting there watching missiles go up. And you say to yourself, “Oh, that’s interesting.” Now we’re protecting Japan because Japan is a natural location for North Korea. So we are protecting them, and you say to yourself, “Well, what are we getting out of this?”

SANGER: Well, we keep our missile defenses out there. And those missile defenses help prevent the day when North Korea can reach the United States with one of its missiles. It’s a lot easier to shoot down from there ——

TRUMP: We’ve had them there for a long time, and now they’re practically obsolete, in all fairness.

We’re not sure what’s the worst part of this, the ignorance about U.S.-Japan missile defense (it’s cutting-edge and not even fully deployed yet), or the notion that maybe things would be better in South Korea if we’d just let Kim Il-Sung have the place in 1950.

Trump didn’t stop by slandering U.S. military effectiveness, of course. He went after America’s values, too, citing recent police shootings and civil rights protests as a reason for us to keep our mouths shut at crackdowns on dissidents and journalists in Turkey. First, he flirted with a false-flag conspiracy theory, like you do:

HABERMAN: How closely did you watch last week as events were unfolding in Turkey with the coup? Is there anything you would have done differently in how it was handled?

TRUMP: The coup never took place — the coup was not successful, and based on the fact, and I give great credit to him for being able to turn that around.

SANGER: Erdogan?

TRUMP: Yes, some people say that it was staged. You know that?

SANGER: We’ve heard.

TRUMP: I don’t think so, but I do give great credit to him for turning it around. You know, the first hour, it seemed like it was over. Then all of a sudden, and the amazing thing is the one that won that was the people. They came out on the streets, and the army types didn’t want to drive over them like they did in Tiananmen Square when they sort of drived them over, and that was the end of that. Right? People said, I’m not going to drive over people. The people came out of their homes, and they were not in favor of what the military was doing. So that was quite impressive from the standpoint of existing government. I will say this: I think Turkey can do a lot against ISIS, and I would hope that if I’m dealing with them, they will do much more about ISIS.

SANGER: Erdogan put nearly 50,000 people in jail or suspend them, suspended thousands of teachers, he imprisoned many in the military and the police, he dismissed a lot of the judiciary. Does this worry you? And would you rather deal with a strongman who’s also been a strong ally, or with somebody that’s got a greater appreciation of civil liberties than Mr. Erdogan has? Would you press him to make sure the rule of law applies?

TRUMP: I think right now when it comes to civil liberties, our country has a lot of problems, and I think it’s very hard for us to get involved in other countries when we don’t know what we are doing and we can’t see straight in our own country. We have tremendous problems when you have policemen being shot in the streets, when you have riots, when you have Ferguson. When you have Baltimore. When you have all of the things that are happening in this country — we have other problems, and I think we have to focus on those problems. When the world looks at how bad the United States is, and then we go and talk about civil liberties, I don’t think we’re a very good messenger.

Ugh, there’s a lot more about reneging on trade deals Trump doesn’t like, and his dumb idea that trade deficits are a sign of economic weakness rather than a measure of how much more money the U.S. has to spend than poorer countries that rely on exporting raw materials and the products of sweat-shop manufacturing.

Also, too, he’d solve the long-standing enmity between Turks and Kurds with meetings! Only Donald Trump, a boardroom, and a tray of bagels can save us all from ISIS.

Seriously, y’all, do not screw around this November. The whole world is watching.

[New York Times]

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  • Land Shark
    • Malmborg Implano

      That’s about the size of it.

      For Christ’s sake, you had a prime time speaker give the salute.

    • eddi

      Hypnotic.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      You’re registered on the target. You may fire for effect.

  • LarryHoudini

    Did you just hear a faint “boing?” That was the sound of Putin’s boner, in Moscow.

    • Rick Hill

      “With this man in office, I will rule the world….”

  • Crystalclear12

    Scary, scary man.

    • Rick Hill

      Stupid, stupid man

      • Crystalclear12

        Those words often go together.

        • eddi

          A chimp with a chainsaw.

          • Blank Ron

            A DRUNK chimp.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            Dry drunk chimp who was going “uh, duh?” on the morning of 9/11?

          • Rick Hill

            A chimp with a chainsaw with a shark with laser beams on the chainsaw and a nuculer bomb in his mouth!

          • Alexander Stallwitz

            “Giving Trump the presidency is like giving an Chimp an Machine Gun”

  • FlownOver

    What about the mineshaft gap?

    • PubOption

      Caused by Obama and Hillary shutting down coal production. In a Trump administration, we’ll be digging out more coal than you can believe, a yoouge amount of coal, the best coal.

      • Reddishrabbit

        Thank goodness coal is a clean energy now thanks to the GOP platform!

      • HanBarbara

        He will put all of those old, poorly educated Americans to back to work in coal mines and steel mills.

        • revenant

          well, they also want to weaken/abolish the child labor laws too, so, bring the kids! fun (and black lung) for the whole family!

    • And if anyone things any of the miners actually enjoy going into the abysss, I want’s what you are smoking to be de-regulated. It’s not that the workers want to go back into the breech of hell so much as they want a good replacement job thats just a tad bit safer, but with the same benefits and compesation – hmmmm sounds awfully familiar to what Clinton is proposing – transitioning the workers to better jobs…

      • The Wanderer

        I believe he’s speaking of George C. Scott’s line in Dr. Strangelove.

  • Belasaurius

    I have this horrible feeling that the Bernie Bros and Jill-bots hate Hillz so much that they[re going to stay home and give the election to Trump.

    • FlownOver

      Hasn’t anyone noticed all that Hillz-hate originates in the sewers of the Republican Party? There’s no functional difference between that and the “Obama is a socialist commie foreigner n*****” we’ve been hearing for the past eight years. Why is anyone with any sense falling for it?

      [We return you now to your previously scheduled snark]

      • Toadette

        As it was explained to be by a White Hetero Guy things have to get bad before the revolution begins.

        When I pointed out that things would actually get much worse for minorities and not White Hetero Guy he just kept making declarative statements about the revolution and how Hillary is teh ebil.

        So, in short, they don’t have any sense.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          Dan Savage has pointed this out to the pasty white Jill-bots. The pasty white Jill-bots just don’t fucking get it, any more than the Ralphing idiots did in 2000.

          • Tovarish Z

            I’m not worried about Jill’s 30 fans. We just need to get the sane to vote.

  • Rick Hill

    So is this specific to trump’s unbelievably naive vision of foreign policy or is every bit of lying asshatery fair game?

  • Rick Hill

    Naive and misguided…now where have we heard that description of a world leader’s foreign policy abilities…..(hint:Republicans talking out their ass about President Obama)

  • Hemp Dogbane

    Some of the voters will notice how much Trump hates America and Americans.

    • eddi

      And some will cheer about that. Not enough to matter I hope.

  • Me not sure

    Just tell NATO we charge by the hour and take all major credit cards.

  • AngryBlakGuy

    …so Trumps idea of “Foreign Policy” is denim. “Johnny Two Thumbs” to the U.N. With a protectection racket scheme

  • Msmlg1979

    I wonder what it would take for Trump to feel like things are good enough for him? How much misery do other people need to be in for him to feel he’s won?

  • OneYieldRegular

    VOTE.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      And help GOTV.

  • Lizzietish81

    Gods he makes John Iselin look like a dignified statesman.

    • The Wanderer

      That would imply that Melania’s the one pulling his strings.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    I think Trump thinks that a trade deficit means you’re just handing over money to other countries, not understanding that you get goods and services in return.

    • AntiDerpomeme

      Those Walmart tchotchkes aren’t gonna produce themselves, and we ‘Murricans demand our cheep goods.

  • cleanfront

    I’m kinda confused … how come he’s never talked about the chick with the dragons invading us?
    I mean she’s hot but she’s way too smart to go for his shenanigans. And the shorty she now hangs with would never let him near her anyway.

    • Lizzietish81

      Can’t wait till he hears what happened in The North

      • mackafritz

        That wall didn’t do much good there.

        • Lizzietish81

          Well that Bastard Jon Snow just let the Wildings walk on through! Weak! See the chaos these illegals cause!

          • Celtic_Gnome

            President Trump ain’t gonna take kindly to a King of the North. Especially when he’s a bastard.

  • AntiDerpomeme

    Not content to ruin his own country, President Trump declares himself Dictator of the World, and lights the match to watch it burn, ignoring and jailing anyone who advises cooperation or restraint. The rest of the globe looks on in horror at the vast, burning wasteland created to satisfy his selfish, bloated ego.

    • Rick Hill

      That sums it up nicely

      • eddi

        Erdogan to Trump, “Dude! Lighten up!”

    • Msmlg1979

      And satiate the fear and hatred that constantly eats away at his supporters. He would be nothing without them.

    • Rick Hill

      Also, too, I commented last night, as trump was hitting his stride and starting to get off on being onstage rousing his rabble:
      And that night the grinch’s swollen ego grew ten times in size.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    I’m not sure what he’s trying to say about the relationship between civil liberties and civic unrest, to the extent that he doesn’t seem to know which is which.

    • eddi

      Liberty is for the chosen few. The rest are revolting peasants.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_TEuKdGWVI

      • arglebargle

        Don’t get saucy with me, Bernaise.

        • Whale Chowder

          Careful or I’ll rap you on your paté.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Meetings. That sound you heard was me falling off my chair.

    • Reddishrabbit

      Of course Nobama never thought of meetings! Presumably too busy enforcing Sharia law and AIMing Hill about how fun BENGHAZI!!!!1!!!1!!!! was.

  • mardam422

    I never knew what a dystopian hell hole America is. Thanks, Trump!

    • eddi

      This what the Rebs have always told their voters. Now it has bitten them in the ass.

  • diogenez

    Making America Safe: Police State 2016

    • diogenez

      Can you IMAGINE what Trump would do with the NSA? Nixon’s enemies list will look like a walk in the park.

      • eddi

        Trump has an enemies encyclopedia.

        • arglebargle

          binders full?

      • freakishlystrong

        And we’d ALL be on it..

        • eddi

          I’d consider it an honor.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          We’re on it right now. I have no doubt that he’s tracking anyone who dared to tell him what he actually is on the twitter machine.

          • eddi

            You tempt me to finally sign on to Twitter. Get thee behind me.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      Tax cuts for the rich, massive expansion of the police and military. What could go wrong?

  • Beanz&Berryz

    “NATO is mainly a static garrison force in Europe” — one short phrase shows that wonkette understands the world yoogly more bigly than the Tidiot.

  • Rick Hill

    How many world leaders woke this morning thinking “You gotta be fcking kidding me?”?

    • Lizzietish81

      Aot,k

      Except Putin

      • Rick Hill

        And Xi Jinping

    • AntiDerpomeme

      In all seriousness, things are very tense here in Europe these days, with the unrest in Turkey, the terrorist activities in France and Germany, the Brexit fiasco, etc, etc. This is not helping the situation at all. Not that Trump would care–those are “other people problems.”

      • Msgr_Moment

        This is why Trump should be forced to either have an office in Brussels or have a dozen or so Smurf minions. Plus, blue will balance out some of the orange.

      • eddi

        Unless he can make money off it his attitude is “not interesting”.

      • Celtic_Gnome

        “The problems of others are not our concern.”

        The Grey Council

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Just who are these “some people” he’s always flapping his gums about?

    • eddi

      The Seven Faces of Donald Trump.

    • cmd

      People on TV, including generals who go on TV because they don’t have anything better to do.

  • clubseal

    We do lack the moral authority to lecture anyone on torture and locking people up without charges. It certainly hasn’t been on the scale of other countries, and it’s been done to those convenient others, but ignoring our own abuses is plain stupid. Or is your memory of our country really that short?

    • anwisok

      Yes, because our record is imperfect, we should never say anything about others, even if they are engaging in blatantly despicable treatment of their population. We are no better than Best Korea.

    • Whale Chowder

      And of course, Trump wants to do more of all that, so I guess we just can’t support human rights anywhere ever.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Ya know, I’ve always wondered what it would be like if a Gambino associate set foreign policy, thanks for clearing that up Trumpus.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    Trump’s foreign policy is essentially, “nice country you have there it would be a shame if anything should happen to it”.,

  • You know, I honestly didn’t think I’d see the day when the GOP candidate made George W. Bush look like a smart, erudite, savvy fellow.

    • eddi

      That is the story of the GOP. A slow descent in senility. Until Trump slapped on the JATO rockets.

      • So in 2020 are they going to elect a rock. Wait, I think a rock would be going backwards for them…

        • eddi

          I am thinking the 2020 ticket will be something like Brownback/King. A purer ideology or idiotology.

          • Celtic_Gnome

            It will be bad. If Hillary wins, I don’t expect the GOP to go much beyond, “The Republican candidate wasn’t ideologically pure enough.”

    • Thaumaturgist

      Did you think you’d ever see the day when a GOP candidate made Ronald Reagan look like a smart, erudite, savvy follow?

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    It makes sense that Trump hates America, most of his supporters do too…

  • Msgr_Moment

    you have the tape going on?

    Seriously? Duct tape or masking?

    • eddi

      He didn’t want to have to repeat himself. It would all come out totally different.

      • Ghenghis McCann

        For the Evangelicals that would show how he can Speak in Tongues.

        • eddi

          I though that was what he has been doing all along.

  • Astraea

    This is where they’re going to hold diplomatic meetings under President Trump:
    http://www.letsmakeadeal.com/70s-Doors.jpg

    • mackafritz

      And all three doors have the zonk.

      • eddi

        Two goats and a Donnie.

        • arglebargle

          or three asses

  • freakishlystrong

    The worst part of all of this is alleged “journalists” treating him as though he’s a sane, rational person. He isn’t. They must start calling him on it. Start with not letting him get away with “I’m not going to talk about that”. Treat him like you would, you know, a Democrat.

    • mackafritz

      They are afraid of being blackballed by him and not getting to talk to him at all. That would hurt ratings.

      • cmd

        Which really sucks.

  • Msgr_Moment

    TRUMP: No, there’s no guarantee. We have 28,000 soldiers on the line.
    SANGER: But we’ve had them there since 1953 and ——
    TRUMP: Really? I think we should at least let them come home and see their families.

    • Ikimizi

      They must be getting really old.

      • Lefty Frizzell

        Cue for the “there’s one pedestrian getting run over every 15 minutes”, “Yeah, and he’s getting pretty fed up with it!” joke

        • Querolous

          And that poor woman having all those babies.

  • HanBarbara

    Dr Paul Krugman is not exactly a tinfoil hat kind of guy. He made the case that the Trump campaign may actually be receiving financial and other support from Putin.

    • The Wanderer

      It’s entirely possible, funneled through Manafort.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Manafort is not a traitor as defined by the Constitution, but he sure has the whiff of agent of Putin on him.

        • Lamashtar

          He’s in business with some Russians. General Flynn got money from Russia Today. Russian hackers stole the Democratic Party’s files and leaked them through Wikileaks– which once claimed to have files on Putin but suddenly didn’t and then Assange got to appear on Russia Today, yay? Its getting a little blatant.

  • The Wanderer
  • eddi

    We have yet to plumb the true depths of Trump’s ignorance.

    • Dr.Zoidberg

      We don’t have the instruments to measure that great of a depth.

      • Nounverb911

        Can we send in ‘Joe the Plumber’?

        • Dr.Zoidberg

          Oh dear lord yes!

        • revenant

          use the doppler effect to measure the depth- just listen for the splat

    • Villago Delenda Est

      It’s an abyss. Much like Standartenführer Newt’s.

      • The Wanderer

        Newton isn’t much better.

  • Oblios_Cap

    He’s kind of got a point about America being hypocrites when preaching civil rights. But I don’t think that’s what he meant.

    • Celtic_Gnome

      It’s like standing up for the BLT community in his speech. He promised to protect them, but only if they were being attacked by Muslim terrorists. Considering his VP pick, I don’t expect much pushback when the Chrisianists go after them.

      (Not a typo up there. Every time Donald says LGBT, he stumbles through it like he has to consciously remind himself not to say BLT.)

  • Dr. Strangelove’s Child

    I know it’s not sexy, and therefore not worth most of the people we need to reach, but this is the most dangerous thing Trump has said so far. All of his bullshit authoritarian speak about ending crime, suing the press, etc. IS dangerous, but open warfare with a Russia or China who think we won’t defend our allies has the most potential impact for Joe and Jane America.

    He visibly weakened our country today, and he’s not even President yet.

    Fuck him.

    • The Wanderer

      You are not wrong. When you have the NATO Secretary-General trying to tell the Alliance that Trump didn’t mean it, you know we’re in trouble.

    • HanBarbara

      That’s the treason right there. Lock Him up!

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Trump fans miss the Bronze Age.

    • eddi

      Their anti-science riff would ban rocks as the Devil’s tools.

    • The Wanderer

      The Egyptian-Hittite Treaty was lame.

      • arglebargle

        Philistine libelz!

      • Mr. Blobfish

        Sad.

      • jmk

        Low-energy.

      • Rufus T. Firefly

        That’s because the Israelites control the clay tablet media.

    • Lizzietish81

      Bronze age libel!

  • According to Mr. Hayes they are now paleo-conservatives. Wonder when the cro-magnus-conservatives will come out of the woodowrk.

    • MrCanoehead

      Woodwork? Are they advanced enough to manage carpentry?

      • Skadi

        Nah, they’re like earwigs.

        • Zyxomma

          Thanks for reminding me that Braindead, which wasn’t on this week, will be back on Sunday.

  • Scooby

    According to Trump the world is more on fire now than during WWII!

    • Tio_Doidinho

      Seems to be what he’s aspiring to, at least.

  • OddMan

    We were watching Futurama last night instead of the convention. Damn if they didn’t have the episode about the ego monster. “The Thief of Baghead”
    “quantum lichen”, a race of alien lichen parasites that feed off of attention and admiration. Victims who pay attention to the lichen are feeding it, but gazing at its face will cause a biological being to have their lifeforce sucked out.
    Now I know what Mr. Trump really is, a Quantum Lichen

    • BearGHAZI

      I think Ted Cruz is the yellow crap in Green Lantern that feeds off pure hate

      • Master Contrail Program

        Or the pink slime in Ghostbusters 2.

  • arglebargle

    So “Meh” when North Korea has a nuclear arsenal and takes over South Korea. INPEACH when we sign a treaty to curtail Iran’s nuclear program. Got it.

  • Sardonicuss

    “They came out on the streets, and the army types didn’t want to drive over them like they did in Tiananmen Square when they sort of drived them over, and that was the end of that. Right? People said, I’m not going to drive over people.”

    * Who doesn’t think that he is severely in need of a neurological work up ? This isn’t a speaking style, it is gibberish, it is aphasia.
    He literally cannot hold a coherent train of thought more than 30 seconds at a time.
    Also, just imagine how much time Obama is having to spend on the phone with our allies explaining that this stroke patient will never get near the White House!

    • Beanz&Berryz

      It would be much less scary if I could believe that he was just talking Wonkette for the simple enjoyment of butchering wordz grammaticalistically for fun.

    • theCryptofishist

      I love strong verbs. “Drived”? What the fuck?

  • Joshua Norton

    Even if things were as fucked up as Trump tries to claim they are, he’s still the least qualified person on the planet to fix any of it.

  • Rick Hill

    Do you know the one great American export? Far rightwing ideas that work. This is why you see a rise around the world of nationalism and hard right conservatism, they looked at us and the things that actually worked and are doing it themselves.

    • snigsy

      I don’t see it as an export. It’s homegrown in the US and elsewhere.

  • Jason Freeman

    This makes me think that the Constitution should have been more specific and stated that the age requirement should INTELLECTUALLY be at least 35 years of age.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Age AND IQ above 35.

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    At the risk of hyperbole, If Donald Trump is elected, we will have World War 3. Trump is recklessly saying that we will put america first and the rest of the world can go to hell. I shudder to think what Russia or China would do if they think the US wont stop them. Oh, and he claimed we should let Japan have an military again because that didnt go wrong in the past

    • Regret

      Naw, a world war will only happen if a megalomaniac gets control over a major industrial nation. Oh wait…

    • phoenix00

      Wait Trump cares about Japan?

      • Alexander Stallwitz

        He cares about how much money we are spending on keeping troops in Japan.

        • phoenix00

          …. which he’ll put right back into his own pocket, I presume?

          • Alexander Stallwitz

            Of course, the fancy gold and marble in the Trump White House wont pay it for itself

          • phoenix00

            neither, I suspect, did those thrones he and Pence sat on for the 60 Minutes interview

          • Alexander Stallwitz

            It will be the biggest, most classy White House ever

          • phoenix00

            likely also the douchiest

          • Alexander Stallwitz

            The Trump brand in an nutshell

  • ColumbusLib

    I expect other countries will be exerting any and all influence they have to keep Trump from being elected, after this week’s RNC debacle. Probably in terms of business and trade partnerships.

    • the_steamer

      Which, of course, will fan the flames of nationalism. It’s brilliant1

    • Celtic_Gnome

      At the same time, I’m ready to buy into Putin helping Donald out, and ISIS certainly seems willing to do their fair share. A possible terrorist shooting at a mall in Munich (in Olympic Village where the September ’72 attack occurred) the day after the convention closes.

  • Callyson

    We’re spending money, and if you’re talking about trade, we’re losing a tremendous amount of money, according to many stats, $800 billion a year on trade. So we are spending a fortune on military in order to lose $800 billion.

    Um, I know The Donald is a business genius and all that, but does he really think that military alliances cause trade deficits?

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      We don’t have an 800 billion dollar trade deficit either.

      He just pulls that out of his ass.

      Oh, and no. Military alliances often mean we are selling folks weapons systems, so $$$+ trade.

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Kudos to that reporter for calling him on it! What?

    • Msgr_Moment

      I think Wharton should just mail him that rebate check and insist that he never mention them again.

    • Alan

      Doesn’t matter what he thinks. It makes sense to the brainless. Somehow.

  • Nockular cavity

    Amerrrricaaa…FUCK NO!
    We’re running away ‘cuz you foreigners are gayyy

  • proudgrampa

    Never let facts get in the way of demagoguery.

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      He is a MorAn singing to a choir of fellow MorAns.

  • Msgr_Moment

    Gaze Long Into The Trump Foreign Policy And It Gazes Back Into You: A Wonksplainer!

    So you’re saying it’s abyssmal?

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      It’s a potentially planet-swallowing black hole of infinitely dense Derp.

      • Msgr_Moment

        This is what happens when your national convention is one yoooooge hardon collider.

  • Alan

    Where’s the UN/Illuminati/alien/Jew conspiracy? I’m disappointed.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Well, I’m sorry folks. our time seems to have run out. But we have our online shitstorm, if you want to find out more.

    • phoenix00

      He’ll circle back to it someday

  • sadboy

    As General Ismay, the first SecGen of NATO said, the purpose of the alliance was to “keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down”. Given Trump’s affections for Vladimir Putin and his affinity for campaign tactics from inter-war Germany, I’m not really surprised at his lack of enthusiasm for NATO.

    • Master Contrail Program

      NATO- Not Another Trump Operation, yup, he hates it.

    • Regret

      PLEASE tell me The general’s first name starts with a ‘D’!

  • Recipriversexclusons

    Joint news conference on C-Span right now, Presidents Nieto & Obama. 12:05EDT.

  • Jen_Baker_VA

    Ok, so he loves Putin and hates NATO.
    Are we sure he is not a Putin Plant instead of a Clinton one?

    • phoenix00

      Whatever the case, if Trump gets elected, all Poutine has to do is walk his tanks all over western Europe….

  • Zyxomma

    We all know he’s a liar (although I believe many of his lies spring from total IGNORANCE about whichever subject he’s ranting on now). http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/07/21/3800972/trump-speech-factcheck/?utm

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      He’s not a liar, actually, because to tell a lie you have to know what the actual fact is that you’re lying about. He is some combination of criminally uninformed, wilfully misinformed and balls out making shit up.

  • Vienna Woods

    That WWII video almost makes me wish I was teaching in Sept so I could use it. Almost. As it is, I showed a bit to my twenty-something sons, and the one said to the other “let’s get baked and watch it.”

  • TeeRaak

    It’s about time we elect a Billionaire who has 3500+ lawsuits where he screwed people out of money!!1!1!

    To protect us against the Rich and Powerful screwing us.

    Yeah, that’s the ticket.
    https://media2.giphy.com/media/26BRsRzyqUkMpYdxu/200w_s.gif

  • Whale Chowder

    TRUMP: And we’ve got our soldiers sitting there watching missiles go up. And you say to yourself, “Oh, that’s interesting.” Now we’re protecting Japan because Japan is a natural location for North Korea. So we are protecting them, and you say to yourself, “Well, what are we getting out of this?”

    That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works!

    • Stulexington

      You’re protecting Japan so they don’t try to do war again … Japan’s really scary when it does war.

      • DoILookAmused2u ?

        Japan’s paying an awful lot for all some of this protecting also too. Those weapons systems of ours on their ships aren’t handed out in Christmas stockings.

    • Alan

      I don’t even understand what he’s trying to say. Didn’t get to the making sense part.

      • Ghenghis McCann

        Nobody did. Don’t worry.

  • Recipriversexclusons

    Crystal ball future.

    As prezinent, tRUMP declares de facto right to directly run his
    bidness while holding office. Declares NATO must use tRUMP branding. After
    T-NATO defaults on payment, tRUMP shops & finds sympathetic, non-messican judge,
    sues T-NATO & acquires all assets after T-NATO deemed insolvent.

    Following private auction, tRUMP declares New Soviet Russia
    winner of sealed-bid auction for 30 cents on the dollar. tRUMP tells only other
    participant, China, not to worry. He will have something for them as soon as
    the T-ASIAN block defaults.

    In other news, T-Middle East…

  • Alan

    I thought Gingrich had a PhD in European history.

    • House0fTheBlueLights

      Wasn’t that Carly?

    • The Wanderer

      Based on what comes out of his cakehole, he got it from ITT Technical Institute.

  • beavertank

    Why do I feel like a Trump sponsored Turkey/Kurdish Separatist meeting ends with everyone in the room having their throats slit when talks stall…

  • chascates

    I take some comfort in the fact that he won’t actually be doing anything as President other than tweeting threats and calling in to talk shows. I lose that comfort, however, when I imagine that his kids will be telling Vice-President Pence what to do.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Trump is an intuitive, that personality type especially lionized by the right for their decisiveness. He can see the problems, but his solutions are really just guess-work. Of course, he can get the best people, but the real solutions are likely to be far too complex and counter-intuitive for him to even consider. So the ‘best people’ are going to be the ones who think most like him, which means more guess-workers.

    • JohnC44

      In all fairness I’m not sure there is any human being capable of articulating comprehensive solutions to global problems that can be executed step by step to produce the desired outcome. Given this position, I reject the notion that being a “guess-worker” as you describe it is a negative characteristic as the connotation might suggest. Trying new solutions to gauge potential outcomes is not a weakness…its the basis of human intellectual development.

      This comment is not a defense of Trump, whom I despise, but a defense of reasonable expectations in light of practical human limitations. Politicians nor their associates are gods.

  • I Only Like Cats

    I’m honestly a little worried the rest of the world will team up to take our democracy away if we elect a fascist :c

    • bookish

      Trump just assumes they’ll sit by passively, awaiting American instructions.

      • theCryptofishist

        Cause we’re the best and they are in awe of our greatness.

        Or something so stupid, it makes that look remotely intelligent.

  • CJTX

    Dear jeebus, when I was journalisming I HATED people who spoke like trump. It was impossible to include a single, short coherent thought in a sentence. In print news, it’s easier obviously to edit it out all the umss and uhs and even put some ellipses when he goes off the rails. In TV, people like trump were the stuff of nightmares. “I only have 10 seconds for your quote, fucknut! Spit out a single thought in 15 words or less dammit.”

    • Iam Reading

      What if you were covering a concept that required much more than 15 seconds (trump aside, fuck that guy) to adequately cover, such as environmental issues? For me, hurry up journalism is part of the problem.

      • 17

        But remember…the average American only has the time and attention span for soundbite news.

      • CJTX

        Fair enough…in print I covered some complex legal issues. In TV – it was local TV news – so about the most complicated thing there was local tax proposals or city/county proposals of some kind (new ordinances for example).

        I will also say, I was taught – somewhere, sometime – that the journalist explain the facts as collected, in as efficient a way as possible. You use the quotes from your source to provide opinions/color/context. So in your example, maybe there’s a watershed that’s losing some important species of bird or something. So I write The National Center for Bird Extinction says this area has seen a 30% drop in sightings of the Tootsie Roll bird since 1990. Now maybe the scientific study that says that is 100+ pages, but that’s the important part. Then I let the biologist present his opinion on what it all means. “This is a catastrophe for the local environment,” says Center Director Brenda Birdington. You let the interviewee “editoriailze” in a way you can’t (or shouldn’t in Faux News’ case). Then you switch to the opposing side’s opinion if there is one. You’ve heard that RNC rep who’s been quoted as saying, “The Republican Party came to (cleveland) to die.” That’s a perfect quote – short, powerful, and gives a better sense of the scene then all my reporting on speeches and standing applause I could ever do.

        Also…and this is unfortunately the truth – the news “hole” is only so big. So you’re always limited in space and/or time. You’re competing with all other stories that “MUST” run that day. You remember that feeling in h.s. and college of trying to stretch a report to 10 pages or whatever. This is the exact opposite…you’re fighting to keep the story within your allotted time or space – and like Hollywood directors you don’t want to lose a single thing (or else you end up with a 19-hour LOTR movie) but the bosses are going to make that sucker fit.

  • frrolfe

    Thanks for video Major X 4. It is terrific and horrific. After Brexit vote I’m more or less convinced Trump will win unless he self-destructs. Not sure how that could happen given what he’s survived so far. I has a sad and also a terrify.

  • Winter is coming.

  • snigsy

    Trump sounds like a fifth-grader trying to give a book report on a book he didn’t bother to read.

  • Erdoğan’s Turkey is a member of NATO. Just throwing that out there.

    • 17

      Trump wouldn’t know a Turkey wing from a NATO wing anyway.

      • BrianW

        In all fairness, NATO is not a well-known wing flavor. Lemon pepper is much more popular.

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