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barack-obama-ball-of-fire1-e1345037176230Some years ago, during the height of Occupy, I walked from my house in Los Angeles up to Wilshire, where a bunch of kids had gathered to decry … something. Drones maybe? Definitely the president and his bad neoliberal ways no better than a common President Bush. I went home and made a sign on a cardboard box; it read Out of Work Single Mom for Obama. I returned and stood across the street from them and waved and smiled, waved and smiled. A black woman in a Mercedes tried to give me some money. Oh no oh no, thank you, but no! I am just here to counter the children angry at a man who is imperfect and with whom I don’t always agree but who is decent, sober, thoughtful. You could be sure that as he was okaying a strike, he wasn’t playing computer Solitaire. Thank you though, lady, that is sweet of you.

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I don’t love Obama no matter what: I would be angry if he lit a kitten on fire with a rolled-up hundred. (Yes, I know kittens are sometimes killed in drone strikes.) I am glad he stopped over-compromising with the Republicans, finally, because that was fucking ridiculous. He’s not good on transparency or First Amendment stuff. I am not sure about TPP, because everybody but him seems to think it’s a total shitball, and yet his advocacy for it makes me think it must be okay. I trust him, almost always, to do the right thing.

And here comes the New York Times with an interesting story about how Barack Obama spends his nights, “Obama After Dark,” and not a person in the world would read that headline and think of hookers and blow, except for the cats at WND who know the truth that Obama is a gay hustler smoking pole for crack.

What does the president do after dinner with Michelle and the girls? He retires to the Treaty Room to write, and read, watch a little ball with the sound down low, and think. He plays some Scrabble, because he is smart. He reads all of his briefing papers.

“He is thoroughly predictable in having gone through every piece of paper that he gets,” said Tom Donilon, Mr. Obama’s national security adviser from 2010 to 2013. “You’ll come in in the morning, it will be there: questions, notes, decisions.”

You are a Wonkette reader, so you remember what it was like to have an incurious president, one who did not care to read his briefings, one who sneered “okay you’ve covered your ass now” when people tried to brief him that al Qaeda was taking flying lessons right here in the USA.

But the children don’t remember it, I guess. They are angry at the first sober, thoughtful president we’ve had in a generation, for not going far left enough fast enough — as if the pendulum won’t swing right the fuck back if suburban Americans get scared from too much too soon. Really, you can only make one big change at a time, let people get used to it, think it’s the way it always was. The Republicans tried to do too much too soon under Bush; they got greedy with their one-party rule, and they got smacked with a Pelosi Congress, right in the kisser.

There aren’t that many rules to being a fellow traveler here at Wonkette — you can disagree on most things (except advocating for Marine LePen) as long as you’re not a shitbird about it. But one requirement for membership is you have to love the president, even as a temperamentally centrist kind of guy, for being a thinker. A man who can be alone with himself and be comfortable. A man nobody accuses of being in it for any but reasons bigger than himself, except of course for all the pole-smoking and crack.

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  • Nounverb911

    You forgot this one too, also.

    • The Wanderer

      It’s nice to see that the Rainbow Friendship Cannon was in good hands the past two terms.

      • Msgr_Moment

        The “P” in POTUS stands for “Pony”.

        • proudgrampa

          I thought it was “Pinkie Pie.”

  • Nounverb911

    And now that “Out-of-work single mom 4 Obama!” is a media mogul!

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    But look at all the people he DIDN’T bomb! they will say.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      There is something to that, believe it or not. A few hundred civilian casualties is too many casualties (more than 1 is too many)- but we’d be talking about thousands of civilian casualties if it had been normal bombing runs.
      Maybe we could try not bombing people at all for a while, see what the odds are then?

  • HazooToo

    I’m so proud of you, being normal and nice. Wonkette is a small little Recipe Hub and Mommy Blog, but it is still a business where you grift moneys from us in exchange for less ads and panties with teeth, and you’re still so real and actually human, and a good one. Thank you!

  • Villago Delenda Est

    I’m going to miss him, too, Rebecca. A President with a brain who is engaged enough to use it. So refreshing.

    • nowlo

      It was such a relief when a smart, thoughtful person was elected in 2008. Every damned day of the Bush years was an offense to morality, intelligence, and democratic ideals.

    • Grokenstein

      We’ll get another one, unless we get real stupid (SIT@HOME/POUT 2016!!!) between now and Election Day (no bets).

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        Hillz will be good, I do not doubt. Tough, smart, and she knows how the whole thing works. But Bamz was truly exceptional- and that is someone saying the whole he is a centric thingy saying that XD He’s made mistakes sure (Democrats, listen up; compromise is great! But when the other side refuses to compromise for years, give it up already) and yet, he’s drug the country, often kicking and screaming, out of the depths of what was begining to be another dark age. We’re still on that edge, but we’re inching away from the precipice daily.

        Edit: Long way to say Obama is one of those once every 50 year type presidents. Here is hoping for a two fer

        • Grokenstein

          I mean, the Right’s still pining for a return to the days of child labor. Nothing’s changed since the Days of Newt except the hate’s gotten more in-your-face.

          And still there’s that Salon article about how maybe Trumpy would be the better choice.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I think it is about time to a: Check into how much Salon is getting in donations from a certain NY based brand family and B: how long they have been getting it.

        • SisterArtemis

          And Hillz is the next step to keep the ball rollin’

          (I do not, btw, believe Bernie could have filled that role)

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I do not, now. But there was a time I thought he might.
            Then he just…idk. I was very dissapoint. But hey, people is people.

        • jmk

          Hillz has it in a different way, I think… less of Bamz’s fine, elegant, and charming charisma, a bit more kitchen-table-ish, but still exceptional.

          http://bluenationreview.com/i-was-a-hillary-hater-until-i-read-her-emails/

          • Amy!

            <voice tone=”wistful”>If we could somehow get her a congress that would work with her, I think she’d have a chance to demonstrate brilliance, empathy, and maybe even greatness.</voice>

          • nothingisamiss

            This.

          • jmk

            YES!! From your mouth to Dawg’s ears – and the ears of all the rest of the people also too.

            GET OUT AND VOTE!!

  • ManchuCandidate

    You’re right. He’s light years better than the lesser idiot Bush Bro who became preznit and not the bigger idiot Bro who helped him get “elected” in the wang state.

    He did a fair amount despite the Teabagger flying monkeys shrieking and feces flinging in the House and Dickface from Calgary and Turtle doing the same in the senate. You even got the start of Universal Healthcare… so there’s that.

    I’d rather him than Hilsbot, but that pesky 8 years rule and she’s still miles ahead of the King of Bankruptcies, Cheeto Face Racist McShrimpy Fingers.

    • HazooToo

      Super glad you realize that last part, seriously, BIG relief.

  • bubbuhh

    Bet when The Big B plays Scrabble he’s okay with the idea that the words he puts down have to be in whatever dictionary his family uses. Bet he’s okay with the idea someone else in the game might have the best words that day, too.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Bet he pulls the I am POTUS card and makes people trade him Es for those I’s. My mom did that…..

      • WomanInAMood

        Your mom was POTUS?

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Of our house, she sure as hell was.

          • WomanInAMood

            Mine still is.

      • Aquaria

        My mom always tried that. She learned to give up getting me to play along. I was just Aspie enough that I wasn’t swayed by emotional appeals, and she never could top me at logical argumentation.

        I was also that annoying kid who actually read the rules of board games on the inside of the lid, and the Aspie thing made me a mite…literal-minded.

        “It doesn’t say anything here about being allowed to trade tiles, so why are you trying to do that? That sounds like cheating to me. Use the tiles you have or draw some more until you get something you can use.”

    • JustPixelz

      When Mrs Pixelz and I play, I like it when she wins. I also like it when I win. There’s nothing not to like.

      • doktorzoom

        I was SO PROUD when Kid Zoom beat me for the first time at Scrabble, when he was about 12. After that, it just got irritating.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          My son, at ten, beat a friend who has a PhD in English. She looked, during the take-down, something like the way Trumplethinskin looked when the President name-checked him at the Coorespondents’ Dinner.

        • willi0000000

          my pride at my first loss (and continuing losses) to my children at Scrabble exceeded, just barely, my irritation at having taught my father chess and never winning after the first game.

          [ Dad had a strange mind . . . constructed mainly out of steel trap parts ]

    • doktorzoom

      Rebecca erred. He plays Words with Friends on his iPad.

      Probably with foreign potentates.

      • rebecca

        I didn’t err; I chose to call it Scrabble because that’s what it is and I didn’t feel like explaining “Words With Friends, WHICH IS TOTALLY SCRABBLE.”

        You’re fired.

        • doktorzoom

          Well in THAT case I’m gonna go…write my Senate thing for tomorrow. In shame.

        • Thaumaturgist

          Rebecca, if you’re going to start firing people, I’m going to come around with cards.

      • bubbuhh

        That way he don’t get board.

  • Nounverb911
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    • sw19womble

      Worst secret freemason handshake evar!!!

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        No. NO. Best one ever. Because reasons and I am not biased and lusting after the leaders of the continent lalalalaIcanthearyou

        • snigsy

          Put your hands on top of the table, young lady.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Sure, I am all done with them for now :)
            :D
            :D:D:D:D:D

          • sw19womble

            Kegel FTW!

      • Grokenstein

        I’ve seen worse.

        http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/monty_python/handshake02.jpg

        (The street scenes in MPFC always kill me because what were these poor people thinking as they walked past these crazy shenanigans?)

    • H0mer0

      [does anyone else think that Nieto looks like a Messican Colbert in that gif?]

    • Querolous

      And they do have fun!

  • TJ Barke

    “yet his advocacy for it makes me think it must be okay. I trust him, almost always, to do the right thing.”
    And that right there is how they get you.

    • malsperanza

      And that right there is how they get you to think it through, listen to the range of arguments, and form an informed, non-kneejerk opinion.

      FIFY

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        That don’t sound murrican to me *squint*

      • TJ Barke

        TPP, Bad for the working class, bad for the environment, good for dystopian megacorporations.
        Don’t assume someone making a stand is uninformed or knee jerking.

        • malsperanza

          Pretty good for the working class in Vietnam, India, Indonesia …

      • HazooToo

        What is TPP? I dunno if you know, but I don’t recognize TJ, so I’m asking you.

        • malsperanza

          Trans Pacific Partnership. It’s a big free trade agreement with Asia. Obama has been working on it for a long time and is pushing it strongly. It is criticized on both left and right for many reasons.

          On the right, all free-trade agreements are seen as sending jobs out of the country.

          On the left, there is also some protectionism and the reasonable suspicion of any deal that Wall Street loves (hence TJ’s reference to dystopian megacorporations and TPP being bad for the US working class–who are already losing a lot of jobs to Asia).

          But the main criticisms have more to do with the lack (or partial lack) of sufficient terms to push Asian countries on human rights, environmental issues, minimum wages, and manufacturing standards. Many of these criticisms are very legit.

          As Editrix said, TPP is not easy to decide about, because it can do a lot of good and a lot of harm, the full consequences are not easy to foresee, and the outcome is likely to have winners and losers.

          • HazooToo

            Very much appreciate! I hope that maaaaybe Obama thinks this is something we can build on, and something that can help strengthen our relationship with Asia. Pushing them into things like that might be easier if we have more strings to pull. I don’t really know, but like Editrix, I don’t think Obama would be doing it if he didn’t have a plan behind it.

          • Amy!

            I’m getting the impression that the idea is to get everyone into trade agreements, even if they’re bad trade agreements (and there are other flaws, like arbitration courts that are outside of national law, and there is absolutely nothing given to national or international labor or its unions), and then work to make them better. That would be rather characteristic for Obama (consider the ACA, and its flaws), both in terms of pragmatism (accomplish what you can) and in terms of optimism (because other people will build on your foundation). That would also help explain TTIPP (I think that’s what the european version is called; it’s in the pipeline behind TPP).

          • Pat_Shackleford

            The TPP corporate-take-all trade deal is “not easy to decide about”, if you simply trust smooth-talking salesmen/presidents and don’t visit sites with information/details that Democratic Party Faithful are generally allergic to.

          • malsperanza

            Welp, that totally convinced me. Thanks for the informative analysis.

          • Pat_Shackleford

            You’re welcome. Here’s more recent analysis from an Obama friendly source.

            https://theintercept.com/2016/07/05/despite-what-media-says-tpp-isnt-about-free-trade-its-about-helping-corporations/

        • Aquaria

          IOW, NAFTA for Asia.

  • WomanInAMood

    I haven’t agreed with everything our president has done, but I have no doubt that he has put some thought into each of his actions. I’m going to miss him as president. Now if we can just get Hillary to appoint him to the Supreme Court.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      heh. Even if he would be more centric than people would suspect, that would be worth it for the sheer splodey splodes it would make.
      Also, Obama in black robes???? The OBAMA court? *swoon*

      • WomanInAMood

        The Obama Court would be amazing. Especially if Luther clerks for him.

      • SisterArtemis

        If Sarah Palin keeps generating additions to our lexicon like “splodey” I just may forgive McCain for bringing her into the spotlight.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Will someone shut that woman up???? *editors at Websters, probably

        • WomanInAMood

          You are a far kinder person than I.

          • SisterArtemis

            Too many viewings of “Pollyanna” and “Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm” as a child.

            I conceive of myself as a “Jane Eyre” sort of gal, but I think I’m a little too rosy.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I am utterly an Anne with an E girl myself. Also, did you ever read the Pollyanna sequel? She dun marries Jimmie Bean!

          • SisterArtemis

            Get Out!!!!

          • jmk

            OMG, I was an awkward red-haired child, and then Mrs. Nicoletti, my fifth-grade teacher, gave me a copy of the first Anne book for my very own and I was completely smitten!!

          • Aquaria

            I was a Louisa May Alcott’s Eight Cousins/Rose in Bloom girl. The gay uncle who let the heroine wear sensible clothes and encouraged her to develop her intellect was aces to me.

          • jmk

            Eight Cousins was awesome!! I still remember begging my mother to teach me how to bake bread because of Alcott’s description of the loaves that Aunt Plenty made!!

          • SisterArtemis

            GAY UNCLE??? WHAT???? I’ve been in lurve with Little Women since I was 11 or 12, re-read it every few years. In my teens I read the sequels, but I don’t remember any gay uncles! Time to revisit that rather interesting set of stories.

    • HanBarbara

      Think he’s had his fill of DC and who could blamed him?

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        He could live in VA and be on the court. Catch the train in. I’ll put the whole family up ^.^ In my tiny 800 sqfeet lil place.
        Hrm. Lemme rethink this one a bit.

        • SisterArtemis

          I’m guessin’ Michelle is a “do it my way or GTFO” kinda gal. And it will always turn out that her way actually is the best way.

        • sw19womble

          It’s the thought that counts.

        • Amy!

          Hotbunking?

        • GunToting[Redacted]

          Didn’t he already buy a house in DuPont Circle so the youngest daughter could finish high school? Of course, some of our “liberal media” greats point out that it is walking distance to a mosque…

      • Grokenstein

        The Republicans! They blame him for everything else.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        IIRC, he’s staying in DC until Sasha finishes high school.

    • DemmeFatale

      Talk about heads asploding…
      (Love it!)

  • Sardonicuss

    Nobody really seems to remember how absolutly horrific the Shrub era was. Worse lately, nobody seems to remember how viciously Obama was attacked…from the left! during the last two elections.
    I have never been disappointed in him because I have always been aware of the limitations of the office, and of the political necessities of compromise (the amount of his agenda he could actually accomplish shrinks even more…if he doesn’t get elected to a second term).
    He really only had a brief two years (before the midterms after he was first elected) to get any of his agenda through. .and the most severe limitations on that were caused by 6 dinos in congress. His majority was too narrow to accomplish what he wanted to do. It was the difference between single payer and what we have now. It was the difference in closing Gitmo and not….and it wasn’t his fault.
    It is good to see him now that he doesn’t have to worry about re-election free to expound on what he really wanted to accomplish.
    Greatest President of my lifetime by an order of magnitude. History’s judgement will put him up with the greatest of all time.
    …and also sadly, probably the last true “statesman” we will ever see hold the office.

    • Nounverb911

      ..

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        You have all of Barry’s greatest hits!

      • Sardonicuss

        “Sheik, your breath is so minty fresh! Now, what are my orders?”

      • Grokenstein

        I don’t know why, but about 50% of the time other folks’ images don’t load for me in the comments (which Wonkette doesn’t yadda yadda) and this was one of them. It shows up when I click on the poster’s name to view their message history.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          It’s a disqus thing. If you reload the article (not refresh, but reload) or do the click on their name thing (will not work if they private their history) they will show, but often nada until you do. Annoying.

          • Grokenstein

            Plus there’s nothing to indicate the image’s failure to load. I’ve probably missed out on a hundred funny memes because all I saw was an ellipse and assumed the poster reconsidered their original post. Had it not been for the responses by you and Sardonicuss I might never have looked twice.

        • Pierre_de_Fermat

          I’ve encountered the missing images too. Jen’s suggestion will work. Also, there can be problems with what is included with a URL. It appears (may be wrong) it won’t accept “http:”, but assumes that for any image.
          Well, I started following this thread because of ABGs initial comment. And I have been interested in the whole thread because Rebecca wrote a very thoughtful column to start it. And Sardonicuss’ statement about forgetting the W years.
          True. All of it.

      • JustPixelz

        This must be the guy (in keffiyeh) who gave Hillary all that money to let them invade Benghazi. The identity of the other guy is lost to (Republican) history.

        • Msgr_Moment

          The guy on the left appears to have a toothbrush mustache. If only I could remember what famous political figure wore a toothbrush mustache….

    • SisterArtemis

      “I have never been disappointed in him because I have always been aware of the limitations of the office, and of the political necessities of compromise”

      Yep, this.

      And this has a great deal to do with why I’m a completely in-the-bag Shillery for Hillery gal.

      • I got my Woman Card and my “A Woman’s Place is in the White House” tank top this week. I’m all in for Hillary.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          I got “Love Trumps Hate” bumper sticker and put it on my new car the day after I picked the car up at the dealership!

        • SisterArtemis

          My only Hillary swag is the coffee cup my sister gave me over a year ago (before she officially announced), but as such, I’m NEVER giving that sucker away, even if I break the handle or drop the damn thing in the sink (WHICH I WILL NOT DO, PRECIOUS LITTLE CUP!!! PROMISE!!) – a little glue, a little effort, and it at least will survive as a pencil cup. But I’m hoping to be drinking out of that thing 20 years from now (I’m old) with a big, big smile on my face.

    • sw19womble

      I certainly remember how horrific the Dubya era was. That’s why I ultimately chose across the border in Canada back in 05-06. The Pacific Northwest is beautiful. All of it.
      Also, too, Clinton was pretty good – for his time.

      • Sardonicuss

        Clinton was a master class in “politician” in a kind of LBJ mold.
        The funny thing is, to this day, I will ask hard core Republicans: “Okay, just personally, what was the best decade this country saw in your lifetime…and who was President?
        To a man, they have to look down and say: “The 90’s obviously, but Slick Willy had nothing to do with that!”
        * Keep in mind, I am one of those few lifetime dems, who never had a doubt about who the nominee should be. Didnt vote for Anderson, didn’t vote for Nadar…never a flirtation with the other side either. The difference between Dems and Republicans has always been as stark as night and day.
        I vote for the Dem who can get elected, after that….things will take care of themselves.

        • DemmeFatale

          I don’t think I’ll ever forgive Nader, and I wish I could.

          • jmk

            Nope. Don’t think I could…not unless he shows a shred of consciousness about the effect of his stupid campaign.

          • jmhm

            For whatever little it’s worth, I genuinely believe that can of tuna he’s been having for lunch every day for the last three or four decades has given him heavy metal poisoning and he hasn’t been mentally competent for years.

            Me, I save my very special ire for his celebrity supporters, who as near as I can tell aren’t intoxicated by anything but the methane rising from their idiotic self-importance.

          • jmk

            That could be – it would certainly explain a lot.

      • WomanInAMood

        The PNW is lovely. I’m so lucky to have been born here.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Like the old, and re-born, Oregon license plate says: Pacific Wonderland…

          • WomanInAMood

            It truly is. I love this place.

          • sw19womble

            Me too, even tho I’m still just a part-timer. Working on it!

          • WomanInAMood

            Please join us – you’d be very welcome!

        • Truthiness2U

          Just keeping my fingers crossed that Wanda Fuca gal doesn’t get too angry, any time soon.

    • WomanInAMood

      Lordy, I remember how horrific the W years were. A war on fake evidence, Katrina, just….ugh.

    • malsperanza

      My nieces and nephews are voting this fall–the oldest is 24. For the others, this is their first election. It is almost magical to me to realize that they have grown up with Obama as president. But it would be too much to expect them to remember Shrub. They were natural Bernie supporters, for whom voting for a woman may not feel like much of a biggie.

    • snigsy

      We all remember the smirking chimpanzee years–unfortunately.

      • Sardonicuss

        I watched this doc on Gore Vidal last night. One of my favorite quotes from him was paraphrasing: “What we have experienced in Bush is nothing short of a Coup-d’etat by the oligarchy. We are now living under a totalitarian dictatorship. Problem is, most people don’t know it yet.”

    • goonemeritus

      If I had the ability to write a coherent sentence I would have written much the same.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Presidents should be deep?”
    — Dwight D. Eisenhower

    “Presidents should be thoughtful?”
    — Gerald R. Ford

    “Presidents should be sober?”
    — Warren G. Harding

    • SayItWithWookies

      “I’m president?!”
      — Dubya

      • Latverian Diplomat

        “Only in a technical sense.”
        — Dick Cheney

      • House0fTheBlueLights

        Coffee Beer Spewed on the Keyboard Award of the evening.

    • BloviateMe

      “I’m twice the President of any of those guys. Literally.”

      –William H. Taft

  • SayItWithWookies

    There will never be a perfect president, but Obama’s done America proud. And just like the idiots who are now talking up civil rights leaders or JFK or anyone else their side reviled but has now decided was a conservative icon (nobody’s buying it, btw), we’re gonna start hearing about how Barry stabilized the economy and brought jobs back and what a good free-market advocate he was from these same morons who claimed for eight years that he was a Kenyan Muslim commie.

    • malsperanza

      When Conservatives try to claim MLK, JFK, and other great reformers, I believe the correct technical term for that is “success.”

      It may not look like it, but it is.

      • efoveks

        I think you get extra points for that one. I’m not good at subtlety, but I’m a huge fan!

  • JustPixelz

    She is a hottie who kissed me on the cheek at a drinky-thing and signed her book practically at the same time. Also writes goodly.

  • Belasaurius

    I’ll miss having a President who doesn’t use the children’s dictionary when writing a speech

    • sw19womble

      Don’t worry, Trump doesn’t even use a children’s dictionary.

    • malsperanza

      Hillary gives a decent speech. She doesn’t have Obama’s church, but she does talk like a grownup. One of the things I genuinely like about her is that she hates to make empty promises or give easy soundbite answers.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I like her because she is a wonk. Wonk is good. Beats disinterested dork by a million miles.

    • The Wanderer

      Ramen.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      You can have another that does – you know how, right?

  • Brian in Koreatown

    But he killed all those babies with drones and didn’t fire the Baltimore police department and student loans are still a thing and mom is complaining about paying for my T-mobile data overages! I’m gonna harp on endlessly about the guy who looks like Albert Einstein in that “Imagination is more Important than Intelligence” poster! Nah! Nah!

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “I may not have been right about that imagination vs. intelligence thing, but I sold a lot of MacBooks that way.”
      — Poster Albert Einstein

      • Brian in Koreatown

        I’ve always assumed they put those up in college dorms to mollify all the kids who come there thinking they’re the smart one, only to find out they aren’t.

        • Latverian Diplomat

          Big fish, small pond, it was ever thus.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    I wasn’t happy with some of Obama’s actions in the first two years, which seemed to be driven by a belief that Republicans were convincible and could be brought on board with “something for everyone” compromise policies. He seems to have gotten over that.

    And that’s my own opinion, certainly debatable.

    But I never for a moment thought he was anything like the disaster that any modern Republican President (and especially Shrub) has been, or that any modern Republican Nominee would be. There’s no comparison, and I don’t consider that debatable.

    • BeachBum

      Somehow I don’t think HIllz thinks Republicans are convincible. I guess we’ll see.

      • jmk

        She’s worked with them and reached across the aisle successfully in the past, but she’s been the target for their stupidity for waaaaay longer than Bamz has been, and I don’t get the feeling that she would give them as much leeway as he did.

        • Lamashtar

          I admit I’m taking vicarious pleasure in imagining her victorious rage.

          • jmk

            Ohhhhh I can’t wait to see that steely gaze in action again!

  • Vecciojohn LLC

    Yes, it’s true what they say. You never miss the water til the grass is greener when the blue bird of happiness lands in your neighbor’s back yard.

    • SDGeoff

      I’ve heard that.

    • SisterArtemis

      Stealing.

    • Msgr_Moment

      Hey, your blue bird of happiness keeps pooping on my unicorn!

      • Vecciojohn LLC

        This neighborhood isn’t zoned for imaginary animals. Don’t make me call the county on you!

    • eggsacklywright

      A strolling stoat slathers no floss.

      “Ovary clown has a silver lifeboat.”

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Thing the second looks like a sentence my autocorrect would make.

      • Vecciojohn LLC

        So the Bible teaches us.

        • PUAAN

          “lettuce spray…”

    • The Wanderer

      Always with the Bluebird of Happiness! What about the Penguin of Giddiness, the Grebe of Obstinance, and the Grackle of Weltschmerz?

      • Vecciojohn LLC

        All right then. What about them?

  • SisterArtemis

    I lub you, Editrix. Thanks!

  • BloviateMe

    I appreciate your measured views, Editrix. Plus you have a kind, and honest face. I’m happy you took over this site, for many reasons.

  • sw19womble

    FTR – and because I take the Marine Le Pen comment to be directed at the likes of me ;)
    I am against the creation of a European Superstate by a right wing hegemony of politicians, austerity-measure technocrats and unelected bureaucrats. And tbh anyone on the left ought to be too: which is why I’m bemused by the people defending the organisation (seriously, do some digging, don’t just follow the media narrative too blindly)
    Le Pen, the BNP, the EDL, the more pernicious wing of UKIP and all those far-right bigots can go fuck themselves too.
    So yes, this womble agrees, Barry Bamz as a centrist is pretty good (as was Cameron in the UK, to be fair) – and seeing as Jeremy Corbyn is currently being stabbed in the back by the centre-right Tory-Lite Blairites in the “Labour” party, Trudeau is currently best pony. ;)

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      It is weird when the far far right wing and the left agree on anything. Not sure what to make on that whole thing myself.
      But Bamz is pretty good pony, so see? WE AGREE

      • TJ Barke

        If you agree on something for very different reasons, are you really agreeing?

        • sw19womble

          The enemy of my enemy and all that.

      • malsperanza

        In the US, there have been frequent episodes where the far left and right meet–it’s the Libertarian streak that goes all the way back to the Puritans. They share a lot of social liberal ideas (leave us alone, let us have our guns and our abortions); they are isolationist to the core.

        If the Libertarians on the right could bear to give up their racism and their peculiar interpretation of laissez-faire capitalism (“tax the poor, liberate the rich”), they might have a winning formula.

    • doktorzoom

      Actually, it was aimed very precisely at a commenter who I banhammered for a post ending in “Go, Marine Le Pen!” and then complained to Yr Editrix that Wonkette was banning people merely for saying that there were good reasons for Brexit.

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        Did they mention how Wonkette was tramping down their first ammendment rights? I don’t get bingo unless they complained how their first ammendment rights were infringed by being banhammered.

        • doktorzoom

          No, but they were very, very disappointed by the enforcement of ideological conformity.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Dang. I think Jonny might have ideological conformity on his card this week.
            My luck.

          • sw19womble

            I’m not buying any more Official Wonkette Wingnut Bingo cards. I never win anything. :<

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Me either. RIGGED!

      • sw19womble

        Many thanks for the reassurance, although I don’t mind taking a dig or two in the comments section for my pro-Leave spam. Debate is good :)

        • doktorzoom

          I guess its secondary target was making Dok larff.

        • Juan de Fuca

          I’ve got another question re. Brexit. Can you tell me if this is supposed to be pro-Leave propaganda or pro-Remain?

          • sw19womble

            Which propaganda where?

          • Juan de Fuca

            You don’t see the image?

          • Shan

            I frequently don’t get the images showing up, for some reason. Today, however, they are all there. Even the videos, on auto-play. GAH.

          • sw19womble

            Ah, I get you now: yes that’s ‘out’ aka Leave.
            My tipping point was the way the EU technocrats pushed through the Treaty of Lisbon, via the back door, even after a European Constitution had been soundly defeated in referenda in France, Netherlands and the Treaty was rejected in Ireland (and they made Ireland vote again when they didn’t like the decision the first time there, too).
            And people have the nerve to complain about a 52-48 majority “take it or leave it” ultimatum/bullying being ‘undemocratic’.
            The Treaty of Lisbon, and the wholly undemocratic way its measures were eventually forced through, made the EU no longer about economic and social ties, and more about political and social ties.
            The common market was great, the EEC was great. The EU as a geopolitical entity is a fucking disaster waiting to happen.

          • DemmeFatale

            I thought you were quitting us on this topic.
            I get how hard it is, though.
            In 2008, I had to stop reading anything that might mention Hillary, because the insults were flying fast and thick, and I didn’t want to have a heart attack.
            It took me awhile to adjust.

          • malsperanza

            Today a lot of images are not showing up. Something to do with ad blocker, maybe.

          • berkeleyfarm

            I’ve seen similar “Astley for PM” posters so I’d say it’s pro-Remain humor.

          • Juan de Fuca

            It’s what I was thinking. Threw it out as an innocent joke (obvious as it was?) and it bombed, again…SMH

      • snark-lurker

        I don’t have a clew what is “Go, Marine…” etc. jic the hole thing triggers a bot-hammer.

    • SayItWithWookies

      Oh, it’s gonna take a lot of hell & high water before I say anything good about that neo-Thatcherite Cameron. Austerity for the poor, largesse for the affluent is no way to run an economy.

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        I think the entire thing was orchestrated. Including his bowing out now that the shit has hit the fan.

        • malsperanza

          If it was orchestrated, that is one hell of a crappy orchestra. Watching both parties tear themselves to shreds while the entire electorate runs around panicking is not exactly here will we sit, and let the sounds of music creep in our ears, soft stillness, and the night become the touches of sweet harmony.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          Before the vote, there were Tories saying that whatever the result Cameron should stand down. After a strangely long pause Boris Johnson, who was the Brexit poster boy said something like ‘Now let’s not rush into the exit negotiations.’ I wonder was he actually expecting a very close vote, where Remain won. Then when Cameron resigned (or was forced to resign) he would stand as the candidate for the Tory leadership who would unite the party and the country. But now he’s been stabbed in the back by Michael Gove, his good buddy, he’s fucked.

          • sw19womble

            Apparently the rumour is that Boris is actually pro-EU but took the ‘plucky underdog’ Leave card for brownie points and kudos.
            Then, of course, Leave actually won.

          • malsperanza

            Except, wasn’t he the fellow who spent years writing totally fake news reports for the Telegraph or Spectator or whatever about the supposed outrageous things the European Parliament was legislating on? The shape of carrots and fishermen’s hats and whatnot? All to make the EU look foolish and incompetent? And didn’t care how inaccurate they were, as long as he caused damage?

          • sw19womble

            Like I said, a rumour.
            Bojo is only interested in self-promotion. If he has a position on anything, he hides it well with his bumbling persona. If the guy said it was sunny out, I’d take my umbrella with me.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            I think he fooled a lot of people with his ‘bumbling persona.’ They assumed he was a clever person pretending to be a complete idiot. Now they’ve realised that ‘What You See Is What You Get.’

          • SayItWithWookies

            You just know having the referendum was a good idea when even the winners end up losing.

      • efoveks

        Worked well for Greece!

        wait, what????

      • sw19womble

        It’s Osborne who’s the real danger. Cameron is an old-school patrician Tory toff. Just look at all the weasels crawling out of the woodwork now. Ugh!
        As we’re talking about centrism, Cameron in charge, with the LibDems acting as a brake to the worst excesses of the Conservatives worked out pretty well from 2010-15 (EU-directed austerity measures notwithstanding)
        15-16? QED

        • malsperanza

          That would maybe have worked if the LibDems had actually ever acted as a brake.

          • sw19womble

            Again, 2015-16 QED.

          • malsperanza

            Did things get markedly worse after that election? Asking seriously. The attacks on the NHS were already under way, frex, no?

    • Msgr_Moment

      “Why can’t Europe be a single country, like Africa?” — Dubya

      • Sardonicuss

        “Europe isn’t a single country, like Africa?”
        – Donald Trumph

        • Mehmeisterjr

          “It’s pernonced Affercah.” – Sarah Palin.

    • BeachBum

      Looking at the last 3000 years of the peace loving European history, I was hoping that the EU would go a long way in keeping the Europeans from starting WW III. Perhaps a “single identity” is the price to be paid to avoid Armageddon.

      • sw19womble

        You know who else wanted a “single identity” for Europe?
        Soviet bloc, also.
        Totalitarian regimes never do well. We all get along great and improving trade is key to that. However, the new right-wing EPP, trying to enforce and impose a cookie-cutter “social and political” ideology over so many cultures will not.

        • malsperanza

          Comparing the EU to the Soviet Union is … a slight stretch, perhaps?

          • snark-lurker

            power corrupts

          • malsperanza

            That would explain why local governments are typically not very corrupt at all, right?

          • sw19womble

            One could draw a parallel, using examples from both left and right, if that makes you feel better: however, I didn’t want to go full Godwin. :)
            A centralised government, spanning a number of different countries, has never worked out well in Europe. Can we at least agree on that?

          • malsperanza

            It’s true. I still miss all my friends in Italy and France who disappeared into the gulags.

            We can’t agree that the EU is “a centralized government.” The member states have a great deal more sovereignty (like: nearly all the sovereignty) than, say states within the USA.

            I’m not a fan of using actual totalitarianism as a hyperbole for “too much bureaucracy and the common currency has a downside.”

          • sw19womble

            :) The debate will naturally draw to extreme examples. The EU has been politicised and, okay don’t believe me, read what Juncker and his EPP cronies have said themselves. They want centralized power.
            He even doubled-down on this in the shadow of the UK referendum. Seriously, go and check for yourself.

          • malsperanza

            Well, there’s what the EPP would like, and there’s the reality of how the EU is structured. Right now, I suppose more centralization looks appealing because it might help save the euro, so the pan-Europe folks will try to parlay that anxiety into more consolidated power. But it is not going to happen — at least, maybe over the next 50 years, in tiny increments, the EU will inch toward a stronger federal structure. But think how long it took the USA to get to our present structure (including a full-on civil war). And without 2000 years of independent history or 20+ languages.

          • Amy!

            Hapsburg LIBEL!!

    • FeloniousMonk

      “As was Cameron”? WTF? Seriously, what the fuckity fuck? The only evidence I’ve seen that Cameron is a centrist is his say-so. I find the comparison to Obama ludicrous. It is trivially obvious that lefties should be opposed to right-wing hegemony, but leaving is not going to usher in a red dawn blessed by the ghost of Tony Benn. Also, you think there’s a less pernicious wing of UKIP who don’t need to go fuck themselves?

      Ahem. Sorry for intruding parochial British politics into this valediction for a man we’ll all miss.

  • TJ Barke

    And you call yourself a commiegirl…

  • malsperanza

    I CANT EVEN
    I CANT

    Get ready for Obama Loss Derangement Syndrome, my friends. The cure is very longterm: 8 years of treatment with numerous setbacks (Hillary Clinton) followed by the Cory Booker presidency.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      If you think Hillary is a phony and Cory Booker is authentic by comparison, you might want to take another look at Cory Booker.

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        Kirby Delauder?

        • Mehmeisterjr

          The Presidency that Cannot Say Its Name.

      • malsperanza

        I don’t think either thing. I think Hillary is more to the right than my ideal candidate. I think Cory Booker is the best thing to happen to NJ in a long time, but by no means perfect. What I like about Booker is that he learns, he thinks.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Like Bamz! Also, NJ could use some good news for a change.

        • Latverian Diplomat

          Fair enough. I don’t think Hillz is all that far to the right, but agree to disagree on that.

          • sw19womble

            She’s been pulled to the left, that’s put it like that. Let’s hope she stays there on social issues and doesn’t weasel out.

          • malsperanza

            She didn’t need to be pulled left on social issues–she’s always been solid on that stuff. She did, after all, launch the first national effort to provide universal health care since Roosevelt. She was an early supporter of Eleanor Holmes Norton and the Children’s Defense Fund. She spoke up for gay rights far more and earlier than her husband. Etc.

            I think she’s been pulled left on Wall Street and economic policy, and I thank Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders (in that order) for that.

            It’s in foreign affairs that I have qualms. Two items:

            1. She voted for the Iraq War, even though her speech on the Senate floor that night made it clear she had doubts. She did it because she was new to representing NY and ambitious, so she didn’t feel free to refuse.

            2. When the Arab Spring started in Cairo, she wanted–aggressively–to support Mubarak, on the grounds that he was a longtime US ally and we don’t abandon our allies. Obama had to absolutely order her to stick to his policy and quit fiddling with it.

            Also, she is way more interventionist than Obama. While it might be wise to intervene in Libya (for example), I respect his reluctance to do so, and am a bit afraid of her urge to use armed force when it’s not likely to actually help.

          • WomanInAMood

            I agree that she is not perfect. She is also not a Cheetoh colored shitgibbon. I’m with her.

          • snark-lurker

            When & why did she (hrc) go from paragraph 1 to #1 & #2?
            Can’t say she didn’t sour like that!
            Our vote for hrc will be against who’ev the gop ends up with.

            already ducking for cover

          • malsperanza

            Not sure exactly what you’re asking, but if I had to guess about why she is more hawkish than we’d like, I would point to the two big failings of Bill Clinton’s foreign policy: failure to intervene sufficiently or fast enough in the Yugoslav War, and complete failure to do anything at all during the Rwanda Genocide. He has acknowledged the latter as a terrible error.

            Both are failures to intervene when intervention would have been a good thing. If I were Hillary, I’d be haunted by that.

            As for Mubarak, she saw her role as Secy of State as one of developing and repairing relations with foreign states, especially in the Mideast, after the debacle of the Bush years. She was hampered by the lunacy of the people running Israel, and she thought Mubarak deserved continued allegiance for having sustained the Sadat peace.

          • sw19womble

            Good points well made. I still have my doubts about her previous commitment to Sparkle Motion LGBTETC, but as I said earlier, a product of the era, maybe.

          • malsperanza

            I will agree with you that she is a bit too political, both too willing to be expedient and too willing to say what people want to hear. It’s why I preferred Obama in 2008. But she did a decent job for NY in the Senate, her biggest job to date in an elected role. I liked her better than Gillibrand.

        • Astraea

          Hillary is generally rated as exactly as left as Obama when her positions and votes are analyzed. Right on a few things, further left on others. The idea that she’s a far right Democrat is partly a product of the 2008.

          • malsperanza

            I am hopeful (without a whole lot of evidence) that she’ll move left on social issues faster than Obama did. I think Obama was especially cautious on certain racial issues — police violence, unfair courts, lack of legal representation for poor defendants, the prison crisis — because he was worried about being tagged as not even-handed. Hillary, oddly, may be freer to do more. Whether she does or not depends a bit on how much she is pushed and a lot on who is in the Senate.

          • Astraea

            I totally understand why Obama didn’t push as hard on some issues and it’s a shame. I hope we can gain some ground in Congress so Hillary can continue the progress we’ve made.

          • Shan

            I got over my Obama-squeee pretty early on. During his campaign, he told PP that one of his first objectives would be to sign FOCA but shortly AFTER he was elected and was pressed on that promise, he said it wasn’t one of his “priorities” right now. Not that it turned me totally against him or anything like that, I just got a lot more realistic about what to expect. But if he HAD signed it, it sure would have saved a lot of personal misery and millions (billions?) of wasted dollars after the avalanche of Teabagger anti-choice legislation that went down post-2010 elections.

          • malsperanza

            Abortion legislation is a longer discussion, but I would say that the landscape of 2009 did make it less of a priority than other things, particularly given what happened between August and November of 2008 to shift his priorities away from campaign promises. He spent his whole first year doing just 2 things: rescuing the economy and extracting us from Iraq. He had to spend all his political capital to get TARP through. He expected a more collaborative Congress, given the level of the crisis, and did not anticipate the utter fecklessness that led the GOP to refuse to support the Stimulus in 2009–because they wanted people to stay jobless til the next election.

            No one foresaw what a disaster the 2010 election would be–though in retrospect it should have been obvious that voters would be ready to blame Obama for the Great Recession by then.

            I think we forget that in January 2009 the world was on the brink of a worldwide economic disaster that could have made 1929 look bush-league.

          • Shan

            I wouldn’t argue with any of that, I was just saying that, like Editrix, I still love Obama despite some disappointments I’ve had. I still got all choked up with happiness when he was re-elected.

          • Serai 1

            It’s also a product of all that “corruption” and “untrustworthy” crap the wingnuts have been heaping on her head for 25 years now. It’s infiltrated so many people’s thinking.

          • Shan

            Yeah. Sometimes I think they’ve been worried about this year’s election for THAT long.

          • jmk

            Other times – considering Pat Buchanan’s Culture War speech specifically saying “be afraid of her, yes, her…Hillary” – I KNOW they’ve been worried about it for THAT long.

          • jmk

            Exactly – as I’ve pointed out to my Berner friends many times over this past six months, she was the 11th most liberal senator (science fact) when she was serving – slightly more liberal than Leahy and Mikluski, 12 places more liberal than Bamz, and waaaay more liberal than both OHJB and Harry Reid.

            That “practically a Republican” shit may have started in 2008, but I think it reached peak saturation this primary season.

    • Shan

      Mmmmmm…Corey Booker. I’m so glad it’s socially acceptable now to vote with my vagina.

    • Serai 1

      Sorry, not on board with Hillary being a “setback”. I think a lot of people are going to be eating their hats when they see just how fucking good at the job she’ll turn out to be.

      • Astraea

        People seem to conveniently forget that she left the SoS office with a fucking 67% approval rate.

      • malsperanza

        I look forward VERY much to being wrong. Fingers crossed.

  • BMW
  • doktorzoom

    You guys owe it to yourself to read the whole NYT piece. It’s awfully good.

    Mr. Obama had spent three hours scrawling in longhand on a yellow legal pad an angry condemnation of Donald J. Trump’s response to the attack in Orlando, Fla., and told his aides they could pick up his rewrite at the White House usher’s office when they came in for work.

    I can totally see Barry ranting for three hours on a yellow pad about Trump and then paring it down to a brief more presidenty denunciation.

    Yellow Legal Pad Is Obama’s Real Anger Translator

    • sw19womble

      Obama writes cathartic essays he never actually intends to publish. Trump tweets whatever comes into his head the very second it farts its way into existence.

    • SisterArtemis

      Oh man, I hope they don’t throw that shit away! I hope to someday read it all, in a timely release from whatever passes for the New York Times 20 years from now.

    • Mhael

      This is something else he has in common with Lincoln. After General Meade allowed Lee’s forces to slink away following Gettysburg, Lincoln wrote an angry rebuke, accusing Meade of allowing the War to continue, and implying that the many, MANY deaths to come would be his fault and on his conscience.

      Lincoln folded it up, put it in his desk, and never mailed or dispatched it. They found it after he was assassinated.

    • redarmyzombie

      I’d like to think it reads out a little something like this:

      “SHITCUNT BALLFUCKING TINY-HANDED…”

    • WomanInAMood

      But is Yellow Legal Pad funny?

    • M H

      You are so right! The contrast between Bush’s style and Obama’s nearly gave me whiplash.

      Do you think his Words With Friends games are archived? I’d love to see his strategy.

      • doktorzoom

        They’re probably classified. Or maybe he’s only allowed to play against the computer — can’t imagine the Secret Service lets him go out and play against random internet people.

        • jmk

          Maybe they let him play under an assumed name?

          Imagine finding out that the Barry Messinwityah you keep losing to has a secret identity!

    • OneYieldRegular

      Hillary/Yellow Legal Pad 2016!

    • Pierre_de_Fermat

      This was the article about his evening hours at the desk in the Treaty Room? And if you worked for him, you might get a call asking if you could come back to the office. At midnight.

      • doktorzoom

        Part of the job. And you’ll like it, as we all learned from “The West Wing.”

  • The Wanderer

    This bears out my early impressions of Obama as a person who will think, rather than just knee-jerk his way through the Presidency. I don’t want a President who I can have a beer with; I want someone who can think.

    • SisterArtemis

      There’s a polling question for ya

    • Sardonicuss

      Oh, but as a wonk, I would love to have a beer with him. Just to listen to his unadulterated opinions on policy, history ect..
      Problem is, he would probably be taken aback when he was finishing off his second while I was knocking down my 12th….

    • Serai 1

      Yeah, that’s what impressed me, too. He wasn’t the guy I wanted, but when the time came, I decided he was the kind of guy I wanted, and that’s the only thing I can judge on. I’m not psychic, I can’t read the future, so I can only trust in how the person behaves and how they’ve done their jobs so far. it’s why I had no qualms voting for Bamz and why I’ll have no qualms voting for Hillary.

  • If Obama was our latter-day JFK, Hillary is going to be our LBJ — bullying the policies Obama wanted to pass through congress. And she’ll eat a lot of shit for it (and maybe do some wars), but we need that Hillary lean.

    • malsperanza

      It will help if we can give Hillary the Congress LBJ had:

      1964:
      Senate 65:35 Dem
      House: 258:176 Dem

      2016:
      Senate: 54:45 GOP
      House: 247:187 GOP

      Frankly, Obama would have been our LBJ and then some (minus the war), if he had had that Congress.

      We won’t get the House, but let’s get a nice fat majority in the Senate and a close house.

      If I fault Obama for one thing, it’s that he did not campaign hard enough in 2010. His people totally blew that — Plouffe, Axelrod, etc.

      • sw19womble

        2010, and 2014, I rest squarely at the feet of the DNC.

        • jmk

          Since DWS was his pick, it’s still kind of at his feet.

      • I agree, and even more so even the most obstinate adversarial GOP congressman in 1964 wasn’t ready to burn the country down over ever bill. Even repulsive segregationists never wanted to completely blow up the system and shut down everything forever. (Maybe one or two, but not a majority)

      • wurman

        I keep hoping, reading the tea leaves, checking pigeon entrails, casting the Runes, throwing the bones, analyzing the beer foam, and trying to prognosticate if Der Trumpenfuehrer is going to drag the rethuglicans so far down ye auld relief toob that the Democratic Party can retake the House and put Madame Speaker Pelosi back in charge. Trust it, the paybacks would be Hell for those stoooooopid tea baggers.

        • malsperanza

          I think the districts are too gerrymandered. Most of the GOP seats are solid safe–which is why they keep getting primaried from the right. But we can chip away at their majority, and leave them feeling exposed and chastened. A lot can be done with the WH, the Senate, and the SCOTUS. Fuck the House: we’ll fix that in 2020.

    • BrandingOpportunity

      Does that mean she’ll take meetings on the toilet too?

      • She’ll definitely order pants with plenty of room in the…

  • Callyson

    I’ll miss him also too, although I give him credit for his dramatic exit…

    http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Obama-Out.gif

    • Serai 1

      That was so brilliant, I can’t even. The guy is just coolth incarnate

  • doktorzoom

    I also suspect this detail will be the one people get weird about:

    His friends say his only snack at night is seven lightly salted almonds.

    “Michelle and I would always joke: Not six. Not eight,” [former WH chef Sam Kass said. “Always seven almonds.”

    Maureen Dowd will explain it’s proof that he’s OCD and too controlled, and controlling.

    David Brooks will say it’s that same refusal to change that has made him inflexible and unable to reach bipartisan compromises.

    Obama’s-not-Left enough types will calculate how many gallons of water were wasted per nightly snack, WHEN CALIFORNIA IS IN A DROUGHT!!!!!!

    Nerds will (rightly) see it as proof he really is a Vulcan ascetic.

    And Pam Geller fans will insist its an obscure Muslim ritual: ONE ALMOND FOR EACH OF THE PILLARS OF ISLAM!!!!

    • Sardonicuss

      “GOLF!
      -…cried the people whose last hero spent two of his eight years in office on vacation.

    • bupkus23

      I dunno, Dok. I think the only way any on the right would respond to almonds is if Obama were to choke on one….

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Glen Beck: “Seven lightly salted almonds every night? Then after three days, it is 777, which is the same thing as 666!

      • redarmyzombie

        INPEACH!!!!1!!1!

    • bubbuhh

      7 almonds. Man I’m lucky if I can hold a snack down to 7 donuts.

    • Bad Granny

      And Camille Paglia would turn it into a book about marzipan vaginas.

      • WomanInAMood

        Marzipan Vaginas would be a great name for a band.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      The NRA will cite it as an example of why we MUST HAVE MORE GUNS!!1!1

    • Little Lulu

      Seventy times seven for me.

  • coozledad

    I’ve come to know Obama best through his enemies- the people for whom this life will never be anything but a place to indulge whatever bubbles up from their guts. People who’ll never get burned by the fires they start, or have to clean the sheets when they shit the bed.

    I expected a lot of that shit from the right, but from the left? Fuck that damn noise. And the DC press, who spent the past eight years sucking the Republican of the week’s dick? I still think most of them are hunting for a way to bury their direct complicity in the Iraq debacle, because they know they’re fucking guilty and should be in jail.

    Most of these same sacks of shit have turned their focus on Hillary now, and that’s one of the many ways you can be sure she’s a decent human being

    • wurman

      WawawaWow. Can’t wait to read how you really feel when your worked up.

      • Lamashtar

        Righteous fire warms my heart.

  • Biff52

    Apropos of nothing, but here’s Brexit, Britsplained forty years ago:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE&app=desktop

    • jmk

      Gawd, I loved that show.

  • Beanz&Berryz

    What I love about not just our thoughtful President, but also our generally thoughtful cohort here, is that there’s a reasonableness about things. That doesn’t mean that we all reach the same conclusion about things, particularly when the choices are messy in themselves. It also doesn’t mean that we don’t disagree and say that we disagree. But gawd farcking damn, just being thoughtful, interested, and curious, and being willing to explain your thoughts in words that kinda correspond to thoughts, feels like such a breath of fresh air. The absence of amorphous generic rage and explanations that lack logic, facts, or both is nice in the Presidency, politics at large, and this here little Wonkesphere.

    I love you guys!

    • jmk

      Well said!!

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    I like big brains, and I cannot lie.

    • malsperanza

      ” ‘The problem with you, Renee,’ she finally said, ‘is that you think the male sexual organ is the brain.’ ”
      ~Rebecca Goldstein, “The Mind-Body Problem” (a very funny novel).

      • wurman

        Come now . . . errrrr, pppppoor word choice, not literally . . . however, it is a blessing and a curse that men have 2 heads but only enough blood in the body to supply oxygen to one of them at a time.

        • malsperanza

          Excellent comeback.

          As it were.

    • snigsy

      Better than stubby fingers.

  • malsperanza

    Holiday weekend funtime: What’s your favorite Obama moment?

    For me, it is still election night, 2008. The only time in my life when I have experienced geniune euphoria without drugs.

    • snigsy

      Me, too. I even made my then teenaged son sit beside me to watch his acceptance speech because history.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      That’s a goodie, but I have to go with the science fair – the way this President can relate to children, without treating them like, well, children, has always moved and cheered me.

    • WomanInAMood

      We celebrated with a wine called “Goats do Roam”. Because it was both white and african. That was a wonderful night. Tears may have been shed.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Did you have Onion Ninjas too? I kept thinking I’d banished the little boogers, and then another picture of the new President-elect or his beaming, beautiful wife or girls would come up on my tv, and Onion Ninjas would strike again!

        • WomanInAMood

          I prefer to attribute the tears to allergies. Dust may also have been a factor.

    • BloviateMe

      How about this?

      SOTU, “I have no more campaigns to run,”

      Thunderous GOP troll applause.

      “I know because I won both of them.”

      I LOL’d in merriment.

      • Nockular cavity

        Heh. They are so reliable that they walked right into that one.

    • The Wanderer

      I repeated what I said on the night he was nominated: “I thank God that I have lived long enough to see this moment.”

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Once might have been considered an anomaly. Winning again in ’12 really put me over the moon…like fuck yeah, 4 more years, we got it right the first time. Also too, I’m not generally a schadenfreude type, but I switched to Fox News for the first time in my life that night just in time to see Turdblossom’s epic meltdown.

      • DisarrayAlways

        i did the same thing! First time I ever switched to Faux News. I was sitting with my daughter who was hospitalized, and her partner and I were cracking up over the meltdown.

    • sw19womble

      As an election wonk, that night was clearly special on so many levels.

    • Astraea

      The last Corespondent’s Dinner, for me. I love No Fucks Obama.

      • wurman

        Oh please, Astraea, all of them, yes, every one of them, and especially 2 years ago with the Trump insults, how sweet it was.

    • HereKitty

      January 20, 2009, when I started crying in the office and had to excuse myself.

      • jmk

        My company gave everyone time off to watch the inauguration, and it felt like there were thousands of us crowding the cafeteria and atrium, where TVs had been set up. My beloved and I sat next to one another as tears rolled down our cheeks and we held hands on the down-low (office romances were a no-no) as we watched. When Bamz said we were a nation of Christians, Muslims, and Jews, we almost lost our minds even further when, for what felt like the first time ever for anyone, he included Hindus (my beloved) and non-believers (both of us) in who we are.

  • Mhael

    WHOA…. that chick with the sign IS a total hottie, AND she doesn’t have a wedding ring! I wonder if she’s…

    Oh…. it’s the Mistress Editrix Supreme. I uh… I retract the question.

    ;)

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    Its rather tellling that the Right like to criticize Obama for thinking too much and being an egghead and intellectual. They value kneejerk emotion over learning. The Right is an parade of “We dont need no education” and dont confuse us with facts. Its rather depressing to me how much they despise knowledge.

    • Pinkham’s Law

      PINK FLOYD LIBULZ!!!!!11

  • Astraea

    I think we have to keep every leader accountable and make our positions known, even when it is a leader that we mostly agree with. We need to push the Dems to stop giving in to the right. We have to fight for what we believe. Engagement is important and visible engagement is hard to come by on the left, thanks to the media, so I think people were doing what they thought they had to and I don’t really blame most of them for it.

    But I also think we need to tell our representatives that if you do this, if you also fight for us, if you do what you can to promote the wellbeing of this country, we will be there to support you! The left has to be the base, not a bunch of whiny children who threaten to leave every time we don’t get what we want. It worked for the Tea Party for a while but look at what it’s done in the course of less than a decade.

    • rebecca

      Both parts of your argument are well-said.

      • Astraea

        Thank you! Your post is very thought-provoking and I agree that there are indeed a lot of protesters who seem like damn children who need to get off my lawn!

    • sw19womble

      If people can take anything from the recent UK referendum, it’s how appalling ‘low-information’ and negative BOTH campaigns were.
      Don’t be afraid to promote the positives of your case – the benefits, the successes, the potential.
      Demonising the other side just creates permanent fractures.

      • redarmyzombie

        I confess to being unfamiliar with the arguments of the Remain camp, but from my understanding the Leave campaign has essentially broken a good portion of it’s promises (if not all of them…)

        Very nasty business indeed…

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      The second paragraph is the problem- we’re real good at complaining and bitching about anything being less than absolutely perfect, but we’re real shitty about having their back when they do good. Want to know why Dems keep drifting right and drifting towards corporations? The rightwing peeps vote- EVERY FUCKING ELECTION- and those corporations pay the bills with their bribes campaign donations. Meanwhile, the left shoots itself in the foot at every opportunity.

      • Astraea

        Yeah, it’s disheartening as hell. The left doesn’t want to bother to vote because we have a lot of people who think NOT voting is STICKING IT TO THE MAN.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          “Sorry, it’s not perfect enough, I’m staying home. That politician isn’t “progressive” enough, I’m throwing them under the bus.”

          We can be as bad as the tea party in our purity purges- the difference being, they find someone wingnutty enough to satisfy them while we just sit on our hands and complain. The fact that so many whined and sniveled about Bamz (yes, the constant capitulation to the right got tiresome after awhile) shows how impossible to please some on the left are…

          • Astraea

            It doesn’t help when no one with influence is out there directing the passion that the left does have. I think that’s why Sanders has been successful and Elizabeth Warren has been popular. The Dems act embarrassed by the left, while the R’s pander.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            the Dems have contempt for their left flank, while the GOP is deathly afraid of their right flank

          • Amy!

            It doesn’t always happen like that, though. Sometimes it’s the Democratic party politician who is throwing his or her own constituents under the boss. Then there’s no turn out, and someone even worse wins, and (sometimes) there’s vituperation from the party activists about how all these low-information voters should’ve known, should’ve held their noses and gone out and voted.

            Case in point: Kay Hagan in North Carolina. She was elected riding the coattails of Barack Obama in 2008, part of the 2008 Democratic wave. Already in 2010, she voted against the DREAM Act. In 2014, she distanced herself from Obama, and especially from the ACA. She had already gotten wobbly on finances and guns in 2013. I know that she received letters from constituents begging her to position herself as an advocate and ally of Obama (I wrote one of ’em), but she instead made the sorts of moves that were appropriate for someone trying to shore up the support of “moderate Republicans”. It’s no surprise that she didn’t get enthusiastic turnout, since she seemed to be actively avoiding the leader of the party. I held my nose and voted for her, because the alternative was clearly worse (Thom Tillis, the twat). But I can’t fault the African-American and Hispanic-American voters who didn’t turn out, because, for them what difference did it make to have this weak-tea Democrat as opposed to some asshole Republican? Her history demonstrated that she wasn’t going to vote for issues of importance to them. She basically told them: I don’t need your vote; I know I can get it without doing anything for you, because Republicans are worse. Yeah, no. It just doesn’t work that way, and sometimes “Fuck you back; go whistle for a vote, asshole” is an understandable response.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Completely agree- Dem politicians can be their own worst enemy. My representative did the same thing (Ron Barber, the guy who followed Gabby). He made a point of trying to puff up his blue dog credentials and pander to rural conservatives in our district. He was notorious for siding with republicans on several high profile votes against the Obama agenda. Come his first reelection, the Dems who put him in office over a wingnut last time around all lost interest or were actively pissed at his attempts to pander to the right and he nearly lost the primary. The GOP ran against him anyways (just like we all screamed at him that they would do) so his rightward drift accomplished nothing other than causing Dem activists to find other races to care about and most of the rest of us to at best half heartedly vote for him or not even bother to do that- no GOTV or support. He lost to Martha McSally . I get that Dems in red areas have to stay close to the center, but the hypocrisy of so many of them to run away Bamz and his accomplishments in the midterms, just because the talking heads spooked them, makes me say good riddance…

  • HanBarbara

    I can’t remember another outgoing two term President that was viewed with such reverence and affection during their last days in office. The right wing racists will be remembered like the “fans” that screamed racial slurs at Jackie Robinson- they will be loathed.

    • The Wanderer

      Not only are they loathed – they are forgotten.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Yes, like the people who wrote to Hank Aaron and called him n****r and “jungle bunny” and threatened his life if he broke Babe Ruth’s home run record – deservedly spoken of with sneers and pity for their stupidity.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      50 years from now people will look back on the wingnuts in disbelief and say WTF was wrong with you assholes?

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Fifty years? Gawd, let’s hope it’s sooner – I, for one, look at them now and wonder the same thing.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          I’m speaking in terms of historical lookback- imagine reading about the whiners who complained about Teddy or Abe or FDR or Washington- all imperfect to be sure, but at this point you’d view anyone acting the way the teatards do now as being completely insane. 50-100 years from now, people will objectively judge the success of Obama’s presidency and be aghast at the irrational hatred that some had for him.

          • Courser

            Agreed. It’s pretty well known now that Obama has a very long view – well beyond his 8years as President. I think in 50 years his administration will be seen as a turning point for our country. Depending on who wins in November, we will either be on an sharp-leftward progressive arc or it will pendulum back to an even further-right track than we’ve seen in the recent past. With a dash of complete Trumpsterfire thrown in for good measure.

  • malsperanza

    True to form, Obama is planning not a “presidential library” (shrine and reputation-cleanser for so many office-holders), but a research and activism center. He is going to put it back home, on the South Side of Chicago. Funded by his foundation.

    http://www.barackobamafoundation.org/the-center

    • bubbuhh

      What a truly excellent idea. Always thought teh idea of Dubya or even Reagan havin libraries named after them wuz ironic.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Yes, before you can have a “library” you should have to prove that you can “read.”

        • sw19womble

          … and do other stuff good too!

        • Kavefish

          Is that with or without lips moving?

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Lip movements are optional but I do insist that the level of the text exceeds “My Pet Goat.”

          • Pat_Pending

            “I also read two Shakespeares!”

          • Kavefish

            I can imagine the W library being wholly populated with Little Golden Books.

          • sw19womble

            ..

          • WomanInAMood

            This^^^ makes me very, very happy.

          • malsperanza
          • cousin itt

            Needs moar soy sauce.

          • The Wanderer

            Like this one?

      • Sardonicuss

        “Tragically, the Reagan library burned down in his lifetime. Both books were lost, and he wasn’t even finished coloring the second one yet.”

      • DemmeFatale

        Where is Dubya’s liberry?
        Texas or Conn.?

        • bubbuhh

          Con would be apt; but, Dubya Brush Liberry is at Southern Methodist University in Texass despite major opposition from the school’s Department of Theology cuz “Ethically egregious. ” Dubya Brush is the 2nd largest presidential library, behind, yup, Reagan Liberry.

      • malsperanza

        Presnitial Liberry.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      Just some more real estate for his fellow Chicago thugs to tag with graffiti, no doubt

      • malsperanza

        It will probably be in Hyde Park, home to many think tanks and most of the black intellectuals in America, but I do sort of hope they’ll build it in poor downtrodden Englewood, about 5 minutes west of there, and the murder capital of America.

  • btwbfdimho

    I came for your writing but stayed for the Wonkiest Baby.
    Perfect pic, except doesn’t show any sign of domestic violence. I wish i had photoshop with me…

    • WomanInAMood

      What an exceptionally nasty thing to say.

      I’m so not kidding.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Let’s give him a minute to edit that comment a bit (a lot?). There have been times when I’ve made a post before reading it and then read it later and thought Oh…fuck me. Did not mean for that to come across like that..

        I hope…

        • sw19womble

          I don’t understand if this is flashback “humour” or something?

          • Juan de Fuca

            IKR?
            Me———> The joke. I get most of the jokes on here but every now and then…

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          That’s kinder than it probably deserves.

          • Juan de Fuca

            Yeah. It probably is.

          • WomanInAMood

            We’ve all told jokes that misfire. This post is both menacing ang creepy, neither of which you are.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      Are you drinking? Because this looks like something a person who’d had some inhibitions lowered might think is funny.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        I’ve gotten drunk more than a few times…it never seems to involve jokes about domestic violence.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          Well, me either, but I was trying to think of a reason why someone would post something like this…other than that s/he is a complete nasty asshole.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Kinda stunned, really. I mean, I’ve said some dumb shit before, but…

          • Sardonicuss

            …ahem. Comment history is open..and kinda weird?

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I fully stand behind my besotted rambling.

          • Sardonicuss

            Oh…I meant his..not yours!

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Whew! As I mentioned, I’ve said some stupid shit, but….

          • Sardonicuss

            “I’ve said some stupid shit…” pretty much describes all of my pythy commentary.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Nah, I always enjoy your comments. Too bad they’re not allowed.

          • WomanInAMood

            All I got was the ios beta testing thingie. Is this person from around here?

          • Sardonicuss

            Apple disqus problem maybe? It was open a minute ago. Lots of comments..some just on the line of this type thing…

          • WomanInAMood

            I’m on Android. I also have no tech skills whatsoever, so I am hesitant to jump to conclusions.

          • Sardonicuss

            Well..IOS is the apple operating system. Maybe the browser you are using if you on Android. Sometimes it mistakes Mozzila Firefox for Safari..ect…

          • WomanInAMood

            Thank you. I’ll keep nodding and smiling, because that’s the best that I can do. I appreciate your efforts, though. For what it’s worth, I use Chrome.

          • Sardonicuss

            I use Chrome on android too…but have never run disqus with it. Still may be the same problem. Disqus must think it is an Apple product and runs a different version. ..also, your chrome may need upgrading.
            As an old (but IT guy), I do all this stuff on a P.C. connected to 50 inch plasma t.v. with a wireless keyboard and mouse. It would drive me nuts commenting using the little keyboard on my Turbo phone…would need my glasses all the time. These words I am typing are about an inch tall from my point of view.

          • WomanInAMood

            I’m nodding and smiling a lot at the moment. Please understand that until three-four months ago, I didn’t have e-mail, and got my tv from an antenna. Spellcheck was entirely theoretical, instead of the super irritant it is now. FFS I have a flip phone.

            So how else does one run disqus?

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            I am often shamed for my flip phone.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Name’s familiar. I don’t recall anything this egregious.

          • WomanInAMood

            I think you nailed it there.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            more than likely a foolish misfire that sounded good in their head at the time, but got horribly lost in translation. I can’t imagine anyone intentionally going there with DV

          • BloviateMe

            I try to give established commenters a little latitude, that it was just a really bad misfire.

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            Might be time to show up for a richly-deserved public flogging then.

          • BloviateMe

            Yeah, a little mea culpa wouldn’t hurt.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          unless you consider ‘pull my finger’ jokes to be DV

          • BloviateMe

            When Mrs. Blov eats onion rings, I consider the resultant gas to be damn close to DV.

            It just HANGS THERE FOREVER.

          • Shan

            Well, actually…it’s not really DV if she doesn’t DUTCH OVEN you so stop complaining, your life could be so much worse. GOD you don’t even live in Saudi Arabia where that’s LEGAL.

    • doktorzoom

      WTF? Not sure what you were going for, but it misfired. Badly.

      Please review the rules.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • The Wanderer

    I am thrilled that the younger generations of voters won’t think that voting for a woman or an African-American is somehow odd or novel.

    • Astraea

      If Hillary gets two terms the youngest voters in the following election will not even remember ever having had a white man as president.

      Not that a white man can’t be president. I’m sure they’re capable.

      ETA: By remember, I mean experiencing it. I hope they learn some history.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Some of them, I assume, are good people.

        • sw19womble

          Hey, some of my best friends are white.

          • Shan

            Yes, but would you let your daughter MARRY one?

          • sw19womble

            *shuffles awkwardly*

          • Astraea

            I have a few relatives who are men.

        • FauxAntocles

          Some of us try…

          • Astraea

            You need get the others in line. Can you all at least shave? You look so lazy when you can’t even spend 10 minutes taking care of yourself every day.

          • redarmyzombie

            Hey, I’m a bear and I’m damn proud of it!

      • Shan

        Oh, that was smoooooth….

      • Kavefish

        :-D

      • Serai 1

        Occasionally you get a good one.

  • Jenny

    In the words of one of the most influential founding fathers:

    “If you got a problem with Obama I feel bad for you son; we got 99 problems but he ain’t one.”

    • Juan de Fuca

      Was that John Jay-Z?

  • proudgrampa

    Rebecca, what a wonderful essay. I could not agree with you more. This thoughtful, wonderful man who has been our president for the last 7 1/2 years is going to be sorely missed by this old proudgrampa.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      My first grandchild is going to be born in the waning days of Obama’s presidency; I hope by the time he’s old enough to vote electing people of color and of both sexes will be such an ordinary thing to do that his generation gives not one thought to anything but the content of the candidate’s character.

      • alwayspunkindrublic

        It’s already happening. I remember the summer Drublic Jr. got out of high school, he did a 3-week traveling seminar for aspiring writers and journalists. Telling me about it later on, he talked a lot about a young man named Bill from Chicago that he really liked and bonded with. They’ve stayed in touch, but it wasn’t until years later that he mentioned-apropos of nothing-that Bill was African-American. It simply never occurred to him to make that distinction. Gave me hope for the future.

  • proudgrampa

    Oh. And Rebecca, that picture of you with the sign? HAWT. I mean HAWT!

  • DemmeFatale

    I was a Hillary supporter back in 2008, (I know, surprise, right?) but of course, I voted for Obama in the general, and have never regretted it.
    Thanks, Obama! (No really, thanks!)

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I was a Biden grrrrrrl, but happy to vote for Obama, and I agree: Really, Thanks!

  • redarmyzombie

    I can understand some of the frustration with Obama, but I think his biggest mistake early on wasn’t in being too centrist (although he does deserve criticism for some things) but in thinking that Republicans were ever going to be anything other than obstructionist shitbags putting themselves and their party over the responsibility of their offices they held; he had to find that out the hard way, and he has no fucks left to give because of it.

    I will miss him, despite his flaws, and look forward to our soon to be God-Empress Hillary!

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      He had to try- after the division in this country thanks to W, much of his mandate was healing. I just wish he hadn’t kept trying for so long…

      • Kavefish

        OBAMA: Surely *this* time they’ll be reasonable…

        :::the following week:::

        OBAMA: D’oh!

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          As first blah POTUS he was also hampered by the threat of being branded “uppity” by the press, but yes it was nice when DGAF Obama finally emerged

          • Kavefish

            Agreed. :-)

          • Quercus

            That’s right. And he couldn’t be seen as angry either. Despite the absolute horrible way he was treated.

      • Astraea

        The Common Ground thing was frustrating and often felt condescending. RHRealityCheck adopted it and it was super frustrating to read how we were supposed to work with conservative Christians on reducing abortion by focusing on birth control, etc, instead of fighting over abortion laws. Meanwhile, access was under attack and we were asked to come to some kind of nice compromise instead of fighting back.

        On the other hand, it showed the Republican’s hand very, very clearly and maybe was the right approach in the long term. I don’t know, maybe someday we’ll have more perspective.

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          I’m thinking the long term arc will prove that it’s a winning strategy, even though it’s frustrating as hell in the near term. You’ll never convince the wingnuts of anything, but eventually we can hopefully convince the LIVs that one side is at least trying to be responsible adults about governing. Unfortunately, short term personal gain keeps pulling pols in the other direction.

        • Shan

          Oh, hey! Did you used to post over at RHRC? I did, a lot, until they went for real to “no comments allowed” as Rewire.

          • Astraea

            I didn’t comment very often. Every once in a while I’d wade in.

        • Pierre_de_Fermat

          I think in many ways, his going the extra mile with a group that was never going to provide support has given him more power to do what he wants in this last year. He is not a lame duck and the GOP cannot seem to adjust to that. Hence, they can be counted on to do exceptionally foolish things.

  • Ricky Gay

    Word to it all

  • geoffalnutt

    I cannot imagine Barry’s last day without this weird lump-like thing in my throat. All he has done for ‘mos and mo-allies…it’s just…well…a bit overwhelming to someone as pre-geezer as myself.

  • Debbies are like snowflakes

    Yeah, I don’t always agree with the guy (he’s much too conservative for me), but I will not agree 100% with ANYBODY. I have been so happy and proud and joyful to have him as President. I can’t know for sure, of course, but I think he is a genuinely good person.
    I am so happy my daughters got to see a sane President (I brought them to the Dem headquarters on the night of his first win, and we witnessed a young man of African descent hollering outside the party: “Obama is President!!! NOTHING is impossible!”

    On the eve of his 2nd win, my husband was on the computer watching election returns, I was on my laptop, one daughter was on her laptop watching election returns, my oldest daughter was away at college, but texting me– when the race was called for Obama, she texted, “OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!” My sentiments exactly.
    Those were heady days.

    Plus, my retirement fund is bigger than it was before the Bush economic meltdown– that means a lot, as a recent widow. Also, too, I did not have to sell my house to pay my husband’s medical bills.

    • redarmyzombie

      If nothing else, I can at least say he was competent as out Commander-In-Chief, which is *way*more than what can be said for the last guy…

    • redarmyzombie

      Also, I would like to express my condolences. I wouldn’t say it’s the same, but I lost my grandmother several months ago after having lived with and helped take care of her for quite some time. It doesn’t really get any easier, but I’m glad to hear you don’t have those extra worries.

      • Debbies are like snowflakes

        Thank you for your condolences, and I send mine to you. My Grandmother was my first significant loss, and I found that being with her a lot before her death played a huge role in my healing. I hope it’s the same for you.
        And yes, it doesn’t get easier losing my cosmic soulmate/best friend/husband, but it seems like I’ve gotten stronger, month by month, so I can bear it better.
        Anyway, onward, onward…

  • Scott Myers

    History will show him as a great president, who strove to do the right thing.

  • AngryBlakGuy

    …I’ve always wondered why the GOP has hated Barack Obama other than his skin tone. Barack Obama not only is the embodiment of what the GOP stands for but he also lives up to the unfair and racist expectation they have for all black men:

    -Never arrested
    -Came from a low income background
    -Earned his way into Harvard law school based on MERIT
    -Utilized student loans to pay for college(and paid them back)
    -Stayed active in the African American community
    -Doesn’t have any children out wedlock or multiple “Baby Mamas”
    -Married once and never divorced
    -Active in his children’s lives
    -Doesn’t speak “Ebonics”
    -Doesn’t dress like a “Thug”
    -Not on welfare

    FUCK Mitch “Galapagos” McConell, FUCK John “limp” Boehner, FUCK Paul “weasel dick” Ryan and FUCK the entire piss wagons that they call the GOP!!!

    • SadDemInTex

      How do you really feel,ABG? Seriously, I think we can just say that the majority of Rethugs are racist shitgibbons who cannot believe that a black man is the most powerful man on earth when they have been taught since the 1600’s that even if they were the lowest ignorant hillbilly who fucks his daughters and sisters they were still better than the smartest, most moral, and most successful black man just by virtue of having whit(ish) skin. (Sorry for giant run on sentence).

      • AngryBlakGuy

        …well I literally just got home and cracked open my first Hienken. Don’t get me started my friend!!!

        • alwayspunkindrublic

          Check back in when you get your swerve on. I can’t wait.

          • AngryBlakGuy

            …my wife isn’t home, so please don’t encourage me!!!

          • alwayspunkindrublic

            What better time, then!?

        • wurman

          Larry Wilmore, “The Nightly Show,” has nailed this sequentially for some time now. He calls the current election cycle “The Unblackening.” He lumps the 17 pretenders’ various GOP style campaigns as “DeNegrifying” the White House or Oval Office. Here’s my schtick: Mitch McConnell is a low rent, blowhard racist redneck. I wish that Barack Hussein Obama, II, would leave the swearing in of Hillary Rodham Clinton, walk over to Mitch, and punch him square in the mouth with a gloved straight right hand. But McConnell probably won’t show up for the Inaugural because he’s even more of a sexist sissy than an African-American hating twit.

          • AngryBlakGuy

            …I wish that scenario was a “Pay-Per-View” option

    • revenant

      when a black man succeeds, they believe some how that it diminishes them. the unfair and racist expectations are just hurdles to make sure he doesn’t succeed. imagine you have a deadly enemy, someone you truly hate, and you have loaded that guy down with every possible disadvantage; and then imagine that he blows right through all of it, and winds up happier, richer, and in every way more successful than you- just how chapped would your ass be?
      but then, ABG (if I may call you that), you knew all that already, so this is just to say that you are not at all alone in understanding this
      and yes, FUCK the whole kit and bilin’ of them

      • AngryBlakGuy

        …@Rev(if I may call you that? And yes you can definitely refer to me as ABG) as a black man I know about the “invisible” hurdles. They question how you speak, how you dress, do you have any “baby mamas”, are you looking at my “white” wife/girlfriend?!?! I’ve been living in corporate America for the last 14 years, and I hate this shit. I have felt both the latent and OVERT racism in this fucked up system. My point is they(Rethuglicans) laid out borderline impossible goals for a black man to achieve success AND one actually achieved all of them. I get your point on how this was essentially a trap, but CAN THESE MOTHERFUCKKERS ATLEAST ADMIT HE WORKED HARD AND ACHIEVED THE ULTIMATE GOAL?!?!?!

        • Shan

          Yeah, but if they do that, then they have to admit that their traps don’t always work. So now what? Build more and better traps? Get furiousfuckingmad? Oh, I know! Elect a Trump! That’ll fix it!

          Not to derail or anything, but I’m kind of seeing this same sort of attitude with reproductive rights issues. The system that’s been designed to keep as many people oppressed as possible (i.e.,force them to “fail” at life by rigging the rules against them) is being dismantled and a lot of the people who have traditionally benefited from it are losing their fucking minds.

          • kimberlyrsingley

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        • Kavefish

          but CAN THESE MOTHERFUCKKERS ATLEAST ADMIT HE WORKED HARD AND ACHIEVED THE ULTIMATE GOAL?!?!?!

          — The management discourages breath-holding while waiting for this to happen.

        • revenant

          nope. to do so would bring their whole world view, everything that makes them think they are good, down in flames. it would be an abnegation of self amounting to suicide, because they haven’t the strength of character to change, or the intelligence to recognize the need for it. so much easier to deny the obvious and cling to illusion.
          justice is when they win, and if they don’t somebody cheated; that simple, and that stupid. and evil

        • Amy!

          Before 2020, some of the assholes are going to be pointing out “Yeah, but he was half-white.” And that will make it okay to lay claim to “half” of what he achieved.

          Because assholes.

        • Odd Jørgensen

          “CAN THESE MOTHERFUCKKERS ATLEAST ADMIT HE WORKED HARD AND ACHIEVED THE ULTIMATE GOAL?!?!?!”

          Of course not. Just a few days ago I was privy to a thread where Obama was belittled because “affirmative action” was the only reason he was the editor/Preznit of Harvard Law Review. These people are not reasonable, and therefore can not be reasoned with.

    • Shan

      God, remember all the nasty memes about his mom? They dredged up some 1950’s porn-ish photo shoots of some woman who looked vaguely like her and started spreading it around the interwebs. Because obvs she was a hoe for being with a Black man. A AFRICAN MUSLIN no less, who prolly had 14 other wives. What a shit show.

      • AngryBlakGuy

        …nice job Shan, you almost made me rage comment!!!

        • Shan

          Sorry! I’d almost forgotten about all the YO MAMA shite they pulled. Maybe I blocked it out…

          • AngryBlakGuy

            …I watched that shit show and bit my tongue. There was a time I wanted to go into “politics”, but then I realized I had rage issues. If anyone made mention of my children, wife or mother, it would be a old school south Miami beat down on the stage.

          • Sakonyachen

            “a old school south Miami beat down on the stage”

            I concede, you are waaaaaay the fuck angrier than I am. And it’s not because I’m so chipper.

          • AngryBlakGuy

            …and in case you wondering what a “South Miami” beat down looked like, I decided to provide a visual aide:

            http://i.giphy.com/ZNmfQDkZZSLWU.gif

          • Nola Saint

            At least they had the decency to stop the fight once dude was on the ground – unlike republicans who enjoy kicking folks while they’re already down.

          • Shan

            Ya don’t think that’s part of the plan, do ya? Make us so ragey with their bullshit that we have to avoid the whole political stage altogether?

          • AngryBlakGuy

            …possibly. But then again I have “African” issues. I don’t get upset very often but when I do, I go from zero to “what the fuck just happened” in about 5 seconds. That being said, I could literally imagine myself on a debate stage saying “go ahead, say that ONE more time and watch what happens”

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      see there? You do the angry rants at least as well as I do, if not better.

      And yes, fuck ’em all…

    • Duke

      The racist expectations are the opposite of what you’ve listed. At least mostly.

    • malsperanza

      … the embodiment of what the GOP thinks it stands for, but has not since 1968. FIFY.

    • Vecciojohn LLC

      Oh yeah! Well, what’s he done for us lately?

  • Zippy W Pinhead

    If there were ever a president who will deserve the right to say “miss me now?”…

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      I’d be cool with Negro Tyrant For Life, quite frankly.

      • Lamashtar

        We could revive the ‘Abraham Africanus the First’ title.

  • oh my god i am loving this so much.

    this is EXACTLY how i feel and damn january is going to be so very sad. i am so glad to say i was with this gentleman from even before the beginning.

    • JMP

      I’m proud to say that I voted for him in my first Presidential election – when I voted for Bill Clinton to be reelected as President, and this professor from my college’s law school for State Senator.

  • mailman27

    It’s a national embarrassment the way this man has been treated.

    • The Wanderer

      Not embarrassment. A disgrace.

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Rebecca hit the nail on the head. it is profoundly narcissistic and entitled to expect or demand that anyone in life- a friend, a spouse-to conform exactly to one’s own beliefs and opinions. And so too with politicians. As with others in our lives, we align ourselves with people we judge, on the balance, to be good and decent, and we deal with instances that are less so. Making every disagreement a crisis is infantile.

  • Over on Crooks and Liars I have just been handed a perfect example of “right on” whargarble. The entire post was:

    There is no way to maintain hegemony in a capitalist context without sustained and intentional exploitation of human beings at home and abroad.

    That’s the realpolitik

    Further correspondence led me to discover that its author thought this was a meaningful contribution

    Here is a link to the original post in Disqus

    • The Wanderer

      Um . . . wow. And wrong, on quite a few levels.

      • Yup. doesn’t understand the use of “Hegemony”;
        doesn’t explain how “capitalist context” relates to anything else;
        doesn’t explain what he (almost certainly a he but I apologise if I’m wrong) means by exploitation;
        seems to imply that unintentional exploitation is OK;
        doesn’t understand that “at home and abroad” is redundant;
        and doesn’t know the meaning of the term “realpolitik”

        • wurman

          Apologies . . . I inserted my similar comment before reading down this far. Aaaaargh. Yours is more thorough. Confession: the only Greek I know is “oinos” and Nana Mouskouri. Both of which are quite wondermous in English.

          • Personally I think that Hegemony ought to be the name of a flower; a tall plant with small, intensely purple flowers and variegated leaves, grows well in damp shade but has a very poisonous sap.

    • Serai 1

      Let’s see if I can translate that. Hmmm… Wait, I think I got it:

      The only way rich people can stay on top is by stepping on poor people.

      I think that covers it.

      • The Wanderer

        Pretty much, yes.

    • Gregory Brown

      As the high school history class in the school where I work learned, there is no such thing as either pure communism or pure capitalism. We live in a mixed economy … thank goodness.

    • wurman

      A. Doesn’t know what a hegemon is or what the word means.
      B. Has no concept of German realpolitik.
      C. Missed that week in Advanced Composition class when the mis-use of terms from foreign languages makes Jack or Jill a really dull fool.

  • TheGrandWaz00
    • Gregory Brown

      “Quiet reflection.” You, Waz, are the MASTER.

    • Panika MCD

      except for the “quiet” part.

    • wurman

      The lips need some photoshop. They need to be more thoroughly chapped and cracked from kissing the mirror.

  • Look Closer

    We must remember 2010. Liberals were nowhere to be found when election day came. Fucking Democrats. Do you know how hard it is to control Congress?

    • Sardonicuss

      You know, for the gang that seldom shoots straight, I have to give the credit to the repubs for 2010. They recognized the opportunity for gerrymandering only rolls around every 10 years and they jumped on it….while we dems begged and pleaded with everyone to come out and vote!..even though it was a midterms…to no avail..
      What a horrible election night that was. We knew it was doom for the progressive agenda. It was like a funeral.

      • malsperanza

        Reminded me almost of election night in 1980. I watched the returns at a friend’s house, and she had invited over some recent Russian immigrants in the spirit of Welcome to America, here is our Democracy. She and I sat in frozen horror while the nice Russians hooted and cheered and stamped with joy. It was an unforgettably awful night.

        • Sardonicuss

          Oh yeah. Nothing compares to helplessly watching the country – -proudly and happily elect that senile old empty suit – twice. You just had the sense that horrible times were ahead….and that was my first Presidential election (voting)!

        • Astraea

          I wasn’t old enough to remember that, I can only imagine. We’ve had some real lows with Republicans. LIke W being declared President by SCOTUS and then somehow getting reelected.

          • sw19womble

            “somehow”

          • revenant

            with a little help from Kenneth Blackwell and his sponsors at Diebold. and, of course, our brave and free corporate media, who saw nussink

        • revenant

          yeah, all the Eastern Europeans of my acquaintance loved them some Ronbo. From their perspective, not knowing the context of American politics, it makes sense. He was loudly against the cruel and stupid regimes they had escaped
          the ones who stayed long enough sometimes got better

          • malsperanza

            And he got a whole lot of the credit that Gorbachev deserved, because he was better in front of the cameras, and because Gorbachev never openly rejected communism. Gorbachev remains a little-sung hero.

          • Zippy W Pinhead

            Gorby did the lion’s share of the work with the treaties. Saint Ronnie postured and gave speeches afterwards

          • revenant

            never to blame when anything went wrong, but first in line to snatch credit for whatever went right. yeah, Dim Ron was a class act, all right

          • malsperanza

            And Gorby took all the risk with the Politburo and his own future. It’s not an exaggeration to say that his life was on the line.

        • Gregory Brown

          Boy do I remember that feeling, but without the Russian accompaniment.

  • Astraea

    Since we are feeling good this weekend about our President, also too how awesome is the whole First Family?
    https://67.media.tumblr.com/e76892c07bc481bb7361ef17b9a33d49/tumblr_o99xs26ArR1v66a6ro1_500.jpg

  • Kavefish

    Yes, I miss him yet. And it’s such a weird feeling to have about a president.

  • Jerry Honts

    First Vulcan president.

    • Kavefish

      Totally worth it if only for the Veto Neck Pinch.

      • Shan

        VNP. That’s so much perfection. I am using that at work in next week’s staff meeting.

  • Kevin Morin

    <——- Clapping.

  • crabbylove

    A bail bond store that I have to drive by on the way to work has a big lit up sign, which is a countdown to Obama’s last day. It makes me sad, and scared because we could end up with trump. The sign also advises passing motorists to buy more guns cause the government and all.

    • Sardonicuss

      So, like me, you live in Dumbfuckistan? Because I have been seeing that crap everywhere for 7 years. Both elections, the pawn dealer / gun sellers ran full page ads: “Get yer guns before Barry takes em!”
      Like swimming in an ocean of morons.

      • crabbylove

        Lots of old, rich, white people on one side and redneck wanna-bees on he other.

    • redarmyzombie

      A bail bond store, advertising for firearms; because that sounds like a GREAT idea…

      • Tiria

        Sounds like a slick business model to me. Sell ’em the guns, then get more of their money when they inevitably misuse them.
        On a related note, I’ve had terrific success lately pointing out to the ammosexuals and survivalists and other assorted right-wing cranks how they’re being scammed by people making money off of their fear. Considering how conspiracy-theory prone they are, dropping a little nugget into their heads about how they’re being played for giant suckers is paying off. I asked one guy how much money he’d spent on guns and survival gear, and he kinda mumbled something about having a normal life and then disappeared out of the convo. LOL forever.
        And it’s true anyway. People have made enormous fortunes by stoking fear in broke white people. It’s like the God Squaddies forking over thousands to Pat Robertson and Joel Osteen and then acting like food stamps are a scam. PT Barnum would love the modern right wing.

        • Shan

          “People have made enormous fortunes by stoking fear in broke white people.”

          I’m saving this forever and ever and ever….

        • crabbylove

          It’s so true. right before Obama was elected the first time, my mom and sister bought an arsenal of weapons and ammo, and got passports because they were terrified that some sort of Gestapo-like agency was going to take away their Bibles and force them to be Muslim. and take away their guns of course. I’m still not clear on what country they planned on fleeing to.

          • revenant

            have you asked them lately what ever happened that whole forced-disarmament and conversion thingy? ’cause it does not seem to have happened

          • crabbylove

            Not opening that can of worms.

    • Juan de Fuca

      O/T Bam! That’s it!

      Trump’s as classy as a pawn shop
      …as classy as a stripper pole

      Trump’s as classy as a bail bond store

      It’s been on the tip of my tongue for months now. Thank you.

  • Serai 1

    The sense of relief I felt the first time he spoke as President was overwhelming. I nearly cried when I realized we weren’t going to be laughingstocks anymore. That itself was so fucking painful for me the years that fucking monkey was in the White House. But now we had a President who could actually TALK! Like an ADULT! And he said things that made SENSE! It was bizarre, frankly.

    Given that we’re about to get an equally serious, focused, committed Democrat (crossing all fingers) back in the White House, that part is not what I’ll miss. The part I’ll miss is his coolth, his suavete, and his geekiness. How many countries can say they got to be governed by someone who can slow jam, recite the original intro to Star Trek, AND make mom jeans look cool? (I’ll not even get into the guy’s sense of humor. My gods, he’s even funny as well.) Hillary doesn’t have those things – as far as we know – and that’s fine. Different person, different style. But I will miss that side of Barry Bamz, for sher.

    • Gregory Brown

      Barack can speak in PARAGRAPHS, and as for humor, he has mastered the ancient Chinese art of Ti Ming. Timing.

    • Rick Hill

      Ahhh, those simpler times. When we thought that being mature and reasonable would win the day for America. Then, the fire nation,,,errr, teabaggers attacked

    • Pierre_de_Fermat

      This is such a small footnote, but the pics of him with kids are really quite heartwarming. Knowing what we do about him, it seems so appropriate. And no, I don’t base an assessment of his presidency on that, but his warmth around kids is so …

  • TimJ

    We are so going to miss Barack, Michelle, and the girls when they are off the stage. A decent, smart, and honest man. My kids are a little shocked that Barack will stop being President in a few months, he is the only President they’ve known.

    • redarmyzombie

      Let’s hope for another Obama run in 2040 or so!

  • going4baroque

    One compromise that our good President Obama is making, daily, with the nutjobs in the Republican party, after making an impassioned speech in 2007 about how patriotism is more a matter of the heart and not some silly symbolic gesture of pinning a miniature replica of the flag on the lapel of his suit … 8 years later, and not a day has passed that, if you see our President wearing a suit, you will see that flag pin on his lapel, I can even understand, perhaps, wearing the damn thing to mollify the scoundrels who have no other refuge, until after the 2012 election, but can someone, anyone, maybe Michelle, tell him to drop the pin, as it was the brain-child of brain diseased Republicans who have no other sign or symptom of their patriotism, and that the pin is so 2007, get with it, Barry?

    • Shan

      Maybe he’s wearing it ironically.

      • going4baroque

        Perhaps, but that does not solve the problem. The problem is that the daily wearing of the symbol of Republican obstructionism irks me. And the only remedy is either I get over it or Barack Obama stops pinning it to the suits. And why the hell would I get over it?

        • revenant

          pshaw. the pin is bullshit, and if it quiets down a mouthbreather or two, or reassures a nervous nelly among the mushy middle, it isn’t worth fretting over. it’s a gesture, not a surrender

          • going4baroque

            Being irked is not being frightened. There is no fear involved. Otherwise I get your point

          • revenant

            you don’t strike me as easily frightened. and irritability is a failing of mine that often makes me ashamed of myself, so no worries
            and no criticism meant

    • Gregory Brown

      That’s it? That’s your beef?

      • sw19womble

        I would have gone with drone strikes, personally.

        • Shan

          What would THAT pin look like?

          • sw19womble

            It’s mainly on the lapel, although there is some collateral damage to the rest of the jacket.

          • going4baroque

            !!! thank you

          • Shan

            But that looks just exactly like the American flag one.

      • going4baroque

        that and your insipid questioning, yeah

        • Gregory Brown

          Was that supposed to sting? I can’t tell.

        • Gregory Brown

          Well, you seem to have made an insipid comeback to my allegedly insipid question. Maybe he actually likes wearing a flag pin, got into the habit, so to speak.

    • cynmac

      Upfisting you for the comment, in solidarity – but it doesn’t bother me. The lapel pins are common so that the Congress Critters and Senators can be waved through without going through security. One time, my Congress Critter, the idiotic Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) was not wearing hers and was asked to go through security. Infamously, she pulled the “don’t you know who I am” and then the “race card”. The wiki article mentions Wonkette.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_29,_2006,_Capitol_Hill_police_incident

      • going4baroque

        thank you – and actually it doesn’t bother me so much, I just enjoy haranguing about something or other once in a while, thanks for the link, I’ll read it

      • going4baroque

        ok, thanks for that link, I never knew, and can’t those things be counterfeited? Now I know what that thing is on Bernie’s lapel, I’ve wondered occasionally, and of course regarding your representative Cynthia McKinney, what I don’t know about her could fill the New York City library, but what I do know about her, thanks to you, she is a democrat, so she’s not totally idiotic?

        • revenant

          like her compadre Glenn Greenwald, when she’s right she’s awesome, and then sometimes she just flats loses it, leaving you to scratch your head and wonder WTF did I just see?

          • going4baroque

            in my experience, just flat losing it is essential to living a full life :) once is enough if sufficiently thorough loss of everything put together by thought, so that there is no anchor in fear, anger, jealousy, envy, ambition, etc, so that intelligence informs consciousness (and not idiocy) and thought only functions as necessary.

        • cynmac

          Was our representative. Voted out in 2006 and has fallen even further down the rabbit hole. Tried to run as Green Party nominee for President in 2008. Got a whopping 0.12% of the vote. Tried to take back the congressional seat in 2012, also as Green Party. Didn’t qualify for ballot, got 58 write-in votes.

          • revenant

            yeah, she does not seem to be finding her way back to the real world any time soon.

          • going4baroque

            oh I see, ok, well, no groundswell of grassroots support, when she lost in 2006, the voters weren’t just being temperamental

          • Pierre_de_Fermat

            Well, she was the only politician in either party to take on the kaolin strip miners.

    • Do you think that he might replace it one day with a rainbow flag pin? Perhaps during his last address … for the “Scanners” effect?

      • Beulah

        That would be awesome!

    • Beulah

      Really? You would have been happier with eight years of every Republican in the country endlessly harping about how Obama refuses to wear a flag pin? No thanks.

      • going4baroque

        hahaha, yesss, or 8 years of trying to impeach for not being properly attired as commander in chief

  • Bill Slider

    I hope you sent a cc to Michelle, just in case her schedule prevented her from reading Wonkette today. You are a thinker as well. That’s why many of us love you. (Not to worry Shy, as I am not out to steal her heart or her body. I have someone’s heart, and her body is to complicated).

  • Ezio

    Maybe it’s because I’m only 23, but I feel like President Obama has done more good for this nation than any of the previous modern Presidents like the Bushes, Bill Clinton, Reagan etc. I mean, he helped restore relations between the US and Cuba, encourages all Americans to have health care and to vote, helped stop the “big 3” American car companies from tanking and more. How could anyone not like him?

    • revenant

      no unicorns squirting ice cream out their butts. WHERE MY UNICORNZ???!?

      • Panika MCD

        ahem. RAINBOW non-fat, organic, vegan ice cream, please!

        • revenant

          you want sprinkles also too? that’ll be extra

      • redarmyzombie

        “Oh my god, Morty, what did you do? You killed the unicorns Morty!”

        “Oh oh oh, no-no-no, I-I-I-oh-I-I didn’t mean to, Rick!”

        “Oh my god, you killed the entire unicorns Morty, they’re a beloved i-*braaaap*-icon, they’re a national treasure and you killed them!””

        • The Wanderer

          Thank you for making me giggle.

          • redarmyzombie

            I live only to snark *bows*

      • The Wanderer

        (tsks) Unicorns poop rainbows, fart butterflies and ejaculate egg nog (or so I have it on good authority).

        • revenant

          WANT IZE CREAMZ NOT RANEBOWZ!!! wah

      • Fartknocker

        Here’s your unicorn. Treat it nicely and you can even get ice cream sprinkles.

    • Shan

      Can you have a talk with my son, please? He’s 19 and just got his voting rights (partially) restored in our state because a Federal judge finally threw out our fuckwit governor’s law mandating that everyone should have to show proof of US citizenship to be able to vote.

  • Beulah

    Garrison Keillor has hung up his mic after 42 years on the radio. From his last show:

    As a tearful Masse took the stage to sing Every Time We Say Goodbye with Keillor, he cracked, “Are you trying to make us cry?”

    “We’re going to miss you,” said Masse.

    “I’m going to miss President Obama, that’s what I’ll miss,” Keillor deflected.

    • Panika MCD

      anything official regarding whether he will or will not be doing the Writer’s Almanac?

      • Beulah

        Not sure. It isn’t carried by my local affiliate.

  • Callyson

    To stay awake, the president does not turn to caffeine. He rarely drinks coffee or tea

    Whoa…I admire hm even more now…

    • cynmac

      He has been a smoker.

      • Parchment Scroll

        So was I until recently.

        • cynmac

          I was pointing out that the man is not perfect – and I like that he’s not. He does drink beer also too.

          • revenant

            Heavens!! what a SINNER!!!!!

          • cynmac

            IKR!

          • Parchment Scroll

            I thought you were being a facetious nitpicker: OMG THE PRESIDENT SMOKED IMPEACH HIM (only less over the top)

    • Rick Hill

      No coffee? Uhnnnn….I guess I can let that one slide.

  • Fartknocker

    Thanks Rebecca for expressing how I’m somewhat feeling about this election. When the Obama family move out next January, I’m hoping our leadership is Democratic and the GOP learns to understand that until the middle class is made a part of the how this country runs it’s business, that we’ll continue to remove them from office. I would hope in the first 100 days Hillary comes out with a strong 8 year plan focusing on our nation and fixing things like roads, Flint’s fucked up water supply, climate change, and refocusing dollars to educating our youth. Sorry DOD but you’re going to need some budget cuts.

    Happy Independence Day fellow wonketters. To help you celebrate I offer the following art project of Princess Sparkle Pony. Remember, she was once going to be the 1st lady.

  • Rick Hill

    A very intelligent and capable man, who grew up being the odd one out and learned to be personable and likable and had a unique perspective on society. Given one heck of a work ethic, to boot. One thing you know, rightwingers just wish he was pitching for their team and, Boy, does it piss them off that he does as well as he has. Round of snaps for the Preznit and another round for Rebecca for fanning him.

  • Jason M

    I wish I could vote for him a third time, but I might as well wish cheeseburgers made you skinny. And don’t even get me started on how much I’m gonna miss Michelle. Hillary’s gonna do a great job, but we all know we’re gonna be as tired of Bill as she must be.

    • Shan

      Does Bill still get called Mr. Presinent or would he be the First Gentleman if his Missus is elected, or what? I can’t think of him as First Dude because that’s the one we reserved for (the now apparently missing) Mr. Palin.

      • Callyson

        First Lad–then we keep the FLOTUS acronym.

        • Shan

          OH THIS IS MY FAVORITE THING TODAY.

          Other than shouting in all cap, apparently.

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          Good idea – FGOTUS is gonna be a bitch to pronounce!

      • Jason M

        He has joked about being called “First Laddie”, but he’s always gonna be addressed professionally as “Mr. President”. What the press decides to call him is totally up in the air, though. There’s no precedent, though “First Gentleman” is what the husbands of governors are called, maybe they’ll just use that. I bet the first time somebody calls him “Slick Willy” again, his heart will break just a little.

        • Shan

          From what I’ve read, the protocol is that former presidents aren’t referred to in person as “Mr. President” but as “Mr. Surname”. If one is referring to them journalistically with reference to something they did/said during their TERM, then they get referred to as President Whatever.

          And I am starting to like First Laird as the complement to First Lady, myself. Still makes FLOTUS work, too.

          • Jason M

            I kinda dig “First Bubba”. Let’s make it happen.

        • rebecca

          Miss Manners says there is only one president at a time, and that they should be referred to as Mr. or by their previous highest title (General, etc).

          Nobody listens to her.

          • Shan

            Except Hillz would be MADAME Prez? Because Mr. is just NOT working for me there.

          • Jason M

            ::Fanboy squeal:: Whenever Mrs. Rebecca responds to one of my comments, I feel like it’s 10th grade and Jenny B just turned around and said, “Hey James, can I borrow a pencil?”. Sure, she got my name wrong but SHE NOTICED ME!

          • wurman

            Emily Post, Miss Manners, and other self-styled etiquette mavens have not a clue. All 5 of the people who have been Commander-in-Chief are “Mr. President.” You can read it here from a protocol guru [ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-mirza-grotts/forms-of-address-how-to-a_b_2390778.html ].

            Military honors are prescribed. [ http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/customs_and_courtesies/personal-salutes-and-honors.shtml ]
            Ceremony and parade requirements:
            President receives 4 ruffles and flourishes, 21 gun salute on arrival, 21 guns on departure, and either “Hail to the Chief” or the National Anthem as appropriate.
            Former President or President-elect receives 21 gun salute on arrival, 21 guns on departure and the National Anthem.

          • bobbert

            Okay, a nit. Appropriate forms of address and military honors are two different things.

            There is debate among protocol gurus regarding appropriate form of address. There are still those who adhere to the single-occupant-of-the-office theory.

            Ultimately, who gives a fuck? Use their full names, and then descriptions of their former offices.

        • revenant

          if he isn’t hardened to it by now, he never will be

          and he could cure cancer and poverty and the heartbreak of psoriasis, and still be remembered as just a damn horndog

      • Lamashtar

        Hey, I bought a First Dude button and I need to use it!

  • House0fTheBlueLights

    Beautiful, Trix. Thank you.

  • Callyson

    Mr. Love recalls getting an email after 1 a.m. after Mr. Obama saw a
    television report about students whose “bucket list” included meeting the president. Why had he not met them, the president asked Mr. Love.

    “‘Someone decided it wasn’t a good idea,’ I said,” Mr. Love recalled. “He said,
    ‘Well, I’m the president and I think it’s a good idea.’”

    Aww…

    • DemmeFatale

      That reminds me of when my daughter asked Bill Clinton (we lived in the same town) why he hadn’t visited her high school.
      He said: “Have you invited me?”
      She made sure he got an invite, and he came.
      It must be fun (and a relief) for them to meet kids.

  • Donald Trump Won’t Stop Joking About Banging His Daughter
    .
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-wont-stop-joking-about-banging-his-daughter/

    • revenant

      must be part of that “pivot toward being presidential” we were promised

      Dignitude FTW!!!

      • Trump: “Every guy in the country wants to go out with my daughter.”

        Trump:“… she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

        • Shan

          This never gets less disgusting every time I read it.

    • Callyson

      Um…EWW.

    • doktorzoom

      Could you please not put your posts in all boldface? It’s not as bad as capslock, but it is distracting, and frankly, makes your posts look like they’re coming from an adbot. Thanks.

      — Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

  • redarmyzombie

    Off topic, but:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/02/donald-trump-star-of-david-tweet-hillary-clinton

    How long do you think it will be until Trump starts quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

      • redarmyzombie

        Oh, because of fucking COURSE he would, For Fucks Sake!

      • The Wanderer

        I haven’t heard Trump use ‘poison dwarf’ yet. That was one of The Paperhanger’s favorite epithets.

        • revenant

          he’ll get to it, don’t be so impatient. so many offenses to commit, so many to offend, so little time..

          • The Wanderer

            So long as he doesn’t give the game away and say Giftzwerg.

    • Callyson

      Quadrupling down on hoping to capture the hateful bigot vote, is he?

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        He’s already got that; what I can’t imagine is who else he thinks he might be able to get? And on what basis?

        • Callyson

          I think he is hoping that a bunch of people are secret bigots, and they’ll put him over the top.

    • revenant

      any time now. but don’t worry, it’ll vanish down the Memory Hole just like every other inflammatory and idiotic thing he’s said, remembered only by DFHs, who don’t count

    • Nounverb911
    • SayItWithWookies

      By all evidence, fairly soon.

  • The Wanderer

    OT:

    Elie Wiesel has died.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/02/world/elie-wiesel-dies/index.html

    (recites the Mourner’s Kaddish)

    • Callyson

      Aw, fuck. Rest in peace, Elie.

    • AlasAnAss

      May his memory be a blessing.

    • jmk

      Oh nooooo.

      May he rest lightly in kind earth.

  • goonemeritus

    Obama reads every paper that is put before him and I couldn’t read to the end of this post, well written though it was. I suppose that’s why I chose a career in corporate management instead of renaissance man and world leader.

  • DaveM

    I voted for President Obama from the start. We elected an excellent human being to the highest office in the nation twice and I am damn glad we did. We would be so screwed right now if we had elected Johnny Walnuts in 08 or even Mitt the Magic Mormon in 12.

    • The Wanderer

      I now have “Mitt the Magic Mormon” filking in my head to he tune of Puff the Magic Dragon.

      • cynmac

        With mandolin, banjo and ukelele accompaniment.

        • revenant

          now i want to hear a cover by either Camper Van Beethoven or those Finnish guys, whats-their-names

        • Pickwicknext

          And calliope. Because republicans

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        Well, duh – what else would you sing it to? ;)

      • DaveM

        Funny I actually made up some words to go with that tune some years back.

  • JMP

    But I thought that President Obama promised me a pony and so when January 21, 2009 came around and he hadn’t given me a pony yet I realized that he was just a neoliberal and really exactly the same as Bush who also never gave me a pony why praising Obama is exactly the kind of thing that a neoliberal shill who will actually vote for Shrillary Clinton instead of helping elect Donal Trump by voting for Jill Stein* to protest how the corrupt Democrat party didn’t give the nomination to Bernie Sanders who earned it by getting the second most votes in the primary which was totally rigged because the perswon I supported lost to a neoliberal who doesn’t even have a penis anyway I am a total pure liberal and better person than you neoliberals who actually support a President who didn’t give me that pony.

    *who promises to really reform American health care by covering homeopathic snake oil and making sure caring parents can kill their kids by refusing to get them vaccinated instead of forcing us all on allopathic medicine just because it actually works like some neoloiberal

    • Callyson

      reform American health care by covering homeopathic snake oil and making
      sure caring parents can kill their kids by refusing to get them
      vaccinated

      I did not think I could hate her more. Jesus fucking Christ…

      • Astraea

        Seriously, the fuck?

      • JMP

        It’s unbelievable, but yep, this is from the Greens’ own platform:

        http://gp.org/cgi-bin/vote/propdetail?pid=820

        “Greens support a wide range of health care services, not just
        traditional medicine, which too often emphasizes “a medical arms race” that relies upon high-tech intervention, surgical techniques and costly pharmaceuticals. Chronic conditions are often best cured by alternative medicine. We support the teaching, funding and practice of holistic health approaches and, as appropriate, the use of complementary and alternative therapies such as herbal medicines, homeopathy, naturopathy, traditional Chinese medicine and other healing approaches.”

        So purity trolls, voting Green isn’t just dangerous because it helps Trump win, but their own policies are filled with noxious ideas that kill people.

        • Astraea

          This is something the lefty left is so stupid about.

          • revenant

            most of the leftiest-of-the-left of my acquaintance were people with major health issues, often without much insurance; that plus a mindset that equates EVERYTHING in the status quo with irredeemable evil with conspiracy underpinning leads to reliance on a lot of woo-woo.
            understand, this is not an excuse, just an explanation

        • Spotts1701

          Chronic conditions are often best cured by alternative medicine.

          Depends on the condition. Sure, you could probably use alternative medicine to treat gout or arthritis. Diabetes? Not so much.

          • cynmac

            Type II diabetes can often be treated by a change in diet, but most people can’t keep it up. Too much temptation. Alternative treatments for cancer, that is where trouble often lies.

          • JMP

            Going for the alternative treatments for cancer may have killed one of my mom’s best friends. Of course cancer being cancer, she might have died even with real medical treatment, but she would have had a better chance at least. And it also wiped out her bank account, at least she didn’t have any children but she did have nieces and nephews who would have inherited the money she instead wasted on the snake oil. Fuck the alternative “medicine” pushers.

          • Boojum

            Diabeetus is treated with prayer and givin’ money to Jimmy Swaggart.

        • bobbert

          Goddammit, J, now I have to pay attention to the foibles of the Greens?

    • revenant

      well done, you have performed a pitch perfect impression of the kind of crap that has soured many an evening for me back in the People’s Republic of Takoma Park. nothing against the place, mind, but some folks get wound up a wee bit too tight

      • Callyson

        Definitely reminded me of my People’s Republic of Berkeley days, that’s for sure.

        • revenant

          been to both, and they even look alike (but less chickens & goats in TP)

        • cat cafe

          But wait, we’re a NUCLEAR FREE ZONE here and we HATE CARS! You must only bicycle, despite our extreme hills and the impossibility of using a 19th century means of transport to get to real jobs, a job in the city, the grocery store, getting the kids to soccer practice, or driving your elderly mom to the doctor WE WILL PUT BARRIERS UP ON EVERY STREET POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! (*Republic of Berkeley born and bred)

          • berkeleyfarm

            Homegirl!

            (Not born and bred, but I have been here for a while.)

      • BloviateMe

        Throw in a “meat is murder” while wagging a finger and wearing leather Birkenstocks, and you have some Oregon State party outposts.

        • revenant

          couldn’t care less what people wear, but, yeah, militant vegans are not exactly soothing company, and they are much in evidence in both the Left and Right Coast People’s Republics

          • jmk

            The militancy went out of the offspring’s veganism the first time he called me bloodmouth and I gave him the kind of look that I spent a lifetime training him to fear.

            He’s much nicer to be around now.

          • BloviateMe

            I care when someone wearing cowskin on their own hooves is berating me for being a “cow killer,” otherwise, yeah.

          • revenant

            that little touch of unconscious hypocrisy really just makes me laugh, anymore, it is just too damn silly

          • BloviateMe

            Oh no doubt. That was a long time ago, and it got my young angst going. Now, I’d just point at the shoes, “what are those?!?”

            …and then giggle.

        • Boojum

          Just respond, “Yes. And I’m hungry. May I invite you for dinner?”

        • Shan

          And my XSIL. Rabid vegetarian who, when she still lived at home, expected her mom to cook her a separate non-meaty meal but who, when I pointed out she was wearing leather shoes, sputtered “B…b…but plastic shoes are bad for your feet!”

    • Sardonicuss

      Ooh…ooh..I remember:

      “How dare he come out and make an announcement like that. He acts like he killed Osama himself!”

      * Paraphrased from something I actually heard on …(what I will always refer to as…)
      The Night Obama Killed Bin Laden!

      • Me not sure

        “The Night They Drove Old Dicknose Down”

        • Boojum

          That’s the night that the lights went out, Osama!

    • What? Y’all didn’t get your free Obama ponies?

      I named my “Prancy” and I love it sooo much!

      • Greg Mulka

        Mine was delicious.

      • Jukesgrrl

        He subcontracted the ponies out to Dok and we’ve been inundated with them ever since.

    • Astraea

      Speaking of stubborn assholes, about 100 Sanders supporters are suing the DNC and DWS for rigging the primary.

      • JMP

        Of course they are. I guess all their friends voted for Bernie, so they can’t imagine that Clinton actually got more votes because more people wanted her to be President, it has to be a conspiracy.

        • Vote? You mean showing up at the rallies didn’t count? INPEACH!!!

          • cat cafe

            I mean there were SO MANY OF US at the rallies and I suppose that doesn’t count RIGGED $HILLERY CORPORATE WHORE

          • JMP

            And Mitt Romney was so sure he was going to win, despite every poll showing Obama easily beating him, because he had so many people at his rallies.

        • Jenny

          Their evidence is Hitlery didn’t do all the debates that were promised and the DNC leaked memos show them supporting Hillary long before Bern became a damn democrat.

          • Astraea

            So what, they were supposed to be twiddling their thumbs waiting to see who would run against Hillary before planning any of their strategy?

          • Jenny

            Apparently planning is the DEVIL!

          • Astraea

            They do seem to hate competent organizations.

          • Pickwicknext

            Wait? The democrats? Say whaaaaa?

          • berkeleyfarm

            Hillary’s campaign organization.

          • Pickwicknext

            As someone who does planning for a living, I can assure you that that statement is correct

          • cynmac

            Bernie didn’t press for the last debate and even offered to debate Drumpf. Which was funny because Drumpf took the bait, for a day.

        • cat cafe

          It’s really true! I see the idiots saying that all the time, like high schoolers, “no one I know voted for Hillary!” so it must be rigged.

      • revenant

        circular firing squads- how do they work?

      • Astraea
      • Callyson

        Yo, BoB people?

      • They seem to forget that Hillary lost to Obama by far fewer votes, and delegates, in 2008. Obama won solely because of Super Delegates. And those were the same rules used in 2016.

        • cynmac

          Rules? We don’t need no stinkin’ rules!

      • malsperanza

        They have time on their hands while they prepare for the Democratic Convention Disruption Party.

    • He fulfilled his election night speech promise to give his kids a puppy.

      • Astraea

        Not a shelter dog, doesn’t count!!!11!!

        • It was a “second chance” dog. And a Kennedy gift. You don’t dare refuse a Kennedy gift.

          • Astraea

            I totally agree, plus at least one of the girls has allergies so they couldn’t really get a mutt. But some people were ridiculously mad.

          • DemmeFatale

            Yeah, but Mr. Fatale is highly allergic to dogs, (he can’t even tolerate cat hair at all), and we have two rescue dogs.
            True, not everyone can do this, but he puts them in his lap, and inhales deeply to see if he can “feel” them.
            Our latest dog is the result of seeing three dogs, not being able to get the one who I thought would be the “winner,” and leaving with Rookie, (who turned out to be the light of his life).

          • malsperanza

            I think when your child is prone to asthma and has dog-hair allergies you do not take risks.

          • bobbert

            This right here is a wonderful story.

        • revenant

          au contraire, as we used to say on the factory floor in Hangover Park (Ill)- if it isn’t a shelter dog it don’t count nohow

          • revenant

            oh dear, me reading comprehension seems to have done left the building

    • If you want that pony you’ll need to vote for Vermin Supreme.

    • You Sir/Madam, took the word salad right out of my mouth.

    • phoenix00

      At least it’s not “acupuncture for everyone!”

  • Lazy Media

    About the drone strikes causing civilian casualties — those are bad, even though the people we are killing are trying deliberately to kill far more civilians. But the number is very small, relative to the size of the conflict. We’re talking roughly 20 people per year over the course of the past eight years. I think the calculus of lives saved vs. lives lost is probably pretty positive there.

    • Sardonicuss

      Well, in a different universe, where he was not President, the country is mourning the deaths of thousands of what are now referred to as “boots on the ground”, U.S. citizen soldiers, or privately if you are a Republican “cannon fodder”…or “the poor people we duped / forced into joining by wrecking the economy”.

    • Compare drone strikes against individuals to other actions.

      The one major problem I have with Bill Clinton was the al Shifa bombing, the pharmaceutical plant producing anti-malarial drugs and other essential supplies. Somebody convinced the President that it was producing nerve agents (it wasn’t) and hence it was a suitable target for a reprisal raid following truck bombs at various US sites. There was no evidence linking the Government of Sudan to these bombings and only an assumed connection between Sudan and Iraq.

      The initial death toll was tiny but the estimates by the German Ambassador to Sudan and other agencies of the resultant preventable deaths are several tens of thousands. Add in the discontinuation famine relief following that bombing and the death toll was certainly well over 20,000.

  • I saw a ‘Classic Obama Conspiracy Theory’ the other day I guess missed the first go around. Specifically – Obama had Joan Rivers flat out MURDERED because she uncovered the secret illuminati fact that President Obama is a GAY and Michelle is a tranny.

    OMG IF TRUE!!!

    / / /The Great and Powerful Doctor of Oz says this photo proves it!!!/ / /

  • cynmac

    OT – WTF, New Jersey? So Chris Krispy Creme (aka Gov Sammiches) leaves in January but there’s slash and burn on the way out?
    Freezes spending to make public employees agree to health care cuts?
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/chris-christie-freezes-spending-to-force-public-workers-to-take-massive-cut-in-health-benefits/
    Orders infrastructure work stoppage?
    http://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2016/07/as-christie-orders-infrastructure-work-stoppage-some-warn-of-lasting-implications-103517

    • SayItWithWookies

      Well — he has been getting the greatest advice in the world on the art of the deal. People are saying this could do really really well for New Jersey, and I mean very quickly.

    • revenant

      scorched earth, anyone?

      • The Wanderer

        I was thinking just that. The Harkonnen Wannabe’s obviously thinking of moving into the Naval Observatory in January, so screw Jersey and everyone in it.

    • revenant

      leaving office with the same grace and dignity that characterized his time in office. “With malice toward all, and charity for none”

      • bubbuhh

        And all the oreos

    • Quercus

      Nothing like “governing” through extortion.

    • jmk

      He’s so classy.

    • malsperanza

      And by “leaving office” we mean “facing criminal indictment for misappropriation of Port Authority funds and a few other things.”

      • revenant

        oh pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease!!!!!11!

      • berkeleyfarm

        From your lips to God’s ears.

    • phoenix00

      When shutting down a bridge during rush hour doesn’t work…..

  • Rick Hill

    You know what I won’t miss? Voting for him. Before we always had to worry that there would be an October surprise or the gop would disenfranchise enough folks or just flat out steal the election. Not anymore, nope. After he(finally) issues martial law and becomes Dictator of us All then we won’t have to worry about that at all.

    • revenant

      or preemptive assassination.

      • Sardonicuss

        Don’t even. Never been so personally afraid for someone else’s safety in my life.

        • revenant

          still worried, and will be the rest of my life. do NOT want anything bad to happen to any of that family, and when you think of all the spittle-flecked rage monsters out there….

        • Shan

          Yeah, the empty chairs and the ropes. Jesus HMS Christ.

        • cat cafe

          Every day. Every day since he was first running.

      • BloviateMe

        That was a serious concern to me.

  • SnarkOff

    Love him. I agree with you, Rebecca, he isn’t the Second Coming and he could have done some things better or differently. But he is the American president most worth of respect since maybe Carter, for being a genuinely good person.

  • Blender_415

    I’ve read this over three times, and I still don’t feel any snark. But I’m actually smiling, so there’s that. Thanks.

  • SayItWithWookies

    It’s refreshingly amazing to have a president who’s smart and wise and compassionate — especially considering I remember when the press described Ronald Reagan — our greatest president ever and why isn’t he already on Mount Rushmore — as functioning at his peak when aides would say that he was awake and paying attention at meetings, and for some reason they seemed proud of this.

    Clinton was awesome too — shit, anyone who brought peace to Northern Ireland, not to mention saved the EU from its own inaction with Slobodan Milosevic, gave us a budget surplus while raising taxes and creating millions of jobs. We’re fortunate to have had two of the best — we sure needed them when they came along.

    • Astraea

      I like Obama as a person more than I like Bill as a person, but they both showed that Dems can accomplish a lot. I can’t wait to find out what we can do with two in a row.

      • AlasAnAss

        Obama, whether you disagree with him on a given matter or not, displays integrity and honesty. Bill, for too long, wanted us to love him too much, and had too many unchained appetites, to be as good a person as Obama is.

        • malsperanza

          I’m not bothered by his appetites, but he was way too willing to “triangulate” fucking everything. He never saw a compromise he couldn’t accept, and his constant concessions helped move the GOP far to the right, because he so rarely drew a line in the sand.

        • revenant

          it hardly seems fair to anyone to compare them to Mr. Obama when it comes to dignity or grace under pressure

    • malsperanza

      George Mitchell gets the credit for Northern Ireland, not Clinton. (Setting aside the massive work done by the NI folks themselves.)

  • Sardonicuss

    “Lincoln” the movie quote I hear in my head most when the Republicans snarl at him:
    Hiram Price: If Lincoln really were a tyrant, Mr. Wood, he’d have had your empty head on a pike years ago!”

    • cat cafe

      For one thing, Fox News wouldn’t exist, that’s for sure!

  • BigCSouthside

    First president in my lifetime I have been proud of, and I was so republican when he got elected the first time that I was sure he’d ruin the country.

    • Beanz&Berryz

      Welcome in from the Dark…

      • BloviateMe

        We’ll leave the enlightenment on for ya…

        • revenant

          now THAT is a good line!

          • BloviateMe

            Broken clock, blind squirrel, etc.

          • revenant

            oh, go ahead and take your bow- you earned it, ya big galoot

          • BloviateMe

            Well, if you insist…

          • Shan

            I love your levitating avatar so much.

          • BloviateMe

            I wish I could do it. I’d end up on a Ridiculousness video if I tried.

          • Shan

            I’d be in a Darwin Awards video.

          • Doug Langley

            If you want to feel really inadequate, check out this guy:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbUeD6PEN-U

          • BloviateMe

            Well of course, I never pass up an opportunity for inadequacy.

            watches video

            Ayup, that did it, alright.

          • Shan

            No! NO NO NO! Try to pick me up like that and you’ll NEVER find your nads.

        • I love that line!

      • BigCSouthside

        Yeah, back then I was a Fox News repub. I ended up voting for him the second time. Nothing like a 4 year hissy fit of bullshit from republicans over a guy who is a good president to turn a guy democrat.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          I’m impressed! It’s not easy to see past the Fox Fog if that’s one’s reference point. Wow. Congratulations even more!

      • cousin itt

        And the Cold…

  • TeeRaak

    How can Trump con white people into voting for a guy who will destroy Middle Class Americans?

    Tell ’em they’re better than an Educated Black man with more accomplishments than they’ll ever do…

    • LadyLaz

      Sadly that is the human state of affairs. LBJ, asshole, but so so so right.

      • jmk

        As assholish as LBJ was, there was one thing he never wavered on – the crying need for civil rights legislation that would redress the bigotry he saw when he was starting out as a teacher.

        • LadyLaz

          His experience as a teacher in rural Texas with grossly under fed kids is why he supported school lunch programs as well. He was a philandering asshole, but I really don’t care. He was right.

      • TeeRaak

        Yup, hippies hated LBJ because you don’t help your friends (France) by burning down villages of poor rice farmers and dropping napalm and Agent Orange on little kids “to teach them a lesson”. Asshole.

        And steering “bid’ness” to Texas.

        I’m sure Texans enjoyed LBJ’s corruption. It’s not called the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center for nothing…

        I would have guessed Cambridge or Palo Alto would have better qualified talent than the Houston area…?

        But consider this, maybe he just played dumb because he grew up around so many dumb people. But then I heard LBJ ordering pants, LOL.?

        And the myth that LBJ’s ranch was so big, he could drive for hours and not reach the boundaries. No, that just means his roads were shitty. Duh. ?

    • Vienna Woods
  • AlasAnAss

    Seriousness is a deeply underappreciated quality in the American taxonomy of values.

    • dshwa

      Sober deep thought, also too.

  • Yeah but, we got the Tea Party petulance revolution of 2010, because they figured out Obama wasn’t white…

  • Spotts1701

    He wasn’t my first choice in 2008 (I started out in the John Edwards camp, and yes I do regret it). But I voted for him, I like him, and he reminds me of many of the professors I had in college – able to be serious and sober when necessary, but also willing to have fun.

    Is he perfect? Nope. But no one is. You have to hope the one in charge is, at the core, a fundamentally decent person doing the best they can even when the situation is shit.

    • jmk

      He wasn’t my first choice, either, but I voted for him with enthusiasm, wept when he was inaugurated, have been frustrated and awed by him in turn, and I like him enormously as a person and wish I knew him personally.

      And if that was how my second choice worked out, I’m very happy to see how my first choice does over the coming years.

    • Pierre_de_Fermat

      (I think the quote is from West Wing, but don’t know the occasion. However it captures it — I switched to Obama from Hillz in late 2007, and voted for him in the primary)
      “You weren’t my first choice, but you were my last choice and you were the right choice”.
      I am happy to be for HRC this time; I think she has it in her to be a great President; time will tell of course. And if she is a Harry Truman to PBOs FDR, that is fine.

    • Biff52

      I was Team Edwards until the caucus. He wasn’t viable in my precinct, so I stepped over to Obama’s corner and been here ever since.

    • berkeleyfarm

      I have been trying to remember who I voted for in 2008, and I think he got my vote. Which is probably why I have banished this from my mind.

      Primaries have been where I vote for the person I like. The general is when I get back in line.

  • Boojum

    Pole smoking and crack are under appreciated as drivers of historical events.

    • BloviateMe

      Bitch set me up!

    • Shan

      The Founding Fathers….um…something something…

      • Boojum

        Smoked 3/5 of a crack pipe?

  • cat cafe

    Beautifully written and expressed. Thank you!

  • I think if Hillary wins the White House this year we will continue to have a sober, thoughtful person in the oval office. Not quite as much as President Obama, but fairly close. And I certainly hope the trend continues.

    • Shan

      Yeah, she’ll probably be sober and thoughtful and all that, and I’m going to vote for her for my own reasons other than those as well, but…I’m not going to like her being Prez nearly as much as I’ve liked Bamz all this time.

      • I understand. I like her, but I really do like and admire President Obama tremendously.

      • revenant

        well, she has already given me several pleasant surprises this last few months, so who knows? this campaign seems to be bringing out the best in her, and that best is pretty damn fine

        • Shan

          If she signs FOCA, though, I’m going to squee so loud it’ll shatter windows in DC all the way from KS.

          • jmk

            You know she would drive to the Capitol to sign that on the steps rather than wait for it to make its way to her desk.

          • Shan

            Christ, I’d do everything humanly possible to go watch it happen.

          • Lamashtar

            I googled this and got a search engine?

          • Amy!

            Freedom of Choice Act.

          • Shan

            In case nobody else responded (I can’t see since I’m just checking notifications) FOCA = Freedom of Choice Act.

            https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/103/s25

          • Lamashtar

            Ty!

  • cousin itt

    First, I read about humanity’s loss of Elie Wiesel then, the NYT serves up this piece of shit from Trump.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/us/politics/trump-clinton-star-of-david.html?action=click&contentCollection=Europe&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    Yeah, so Trump himself or some other shit-fer-brains staffer may have thought it looked like a sheriff’s badge.

    • Malmborg Implano

      I think we really need to consider the possibility that Trump has dementia. He’s presenting some very common symptoms of Alzheimers–confusion, inappropriate speech and action, delusions, and explosive rage.

      • Jukesgrrl

        I’ve thought about that for months now.

    • cousin itt

      The Fox News thingy only completes the tableau of hate and ignorance.

    • Daisy

      I haven’t been home all day, just checked Wonkette, so this was the first I heard of Elie Wiesel’s death. Just, fuck. He’s inspired me so much to be and do better, and is probably the only reading the kids who went to my school know what the Holocaust was. This is a major loss.

    • kindness

      I read elsewhere they thought of doing the star in yellow but chose not to dog whistle like that.

    • Andre

      Can’t imagine the message this sends to folks with red/yellow colorblindness.

  • LadyLaz

    ♡♡♡♡ thanks Obama ♡♡♡♡

  • chascates

    I’m sure he knew, coming in, how the racists masses would react and push the GOP to thwart him at every turn. Maybe he thought logic and impassioned speech would raise them up to think of the nation as a whole, to embrace those things that would bring forth ‘the better angels of our nature’. But the hate and fear ran deep and wide and No Drama Obama accomplished a lot without the help of Congress and over the squalls of the rightwing echo chamber.
    I’m glad we had him, wish he had a Democratic Congress to deal with, and hope his successor has luck in solving those problems which were there eight years ago and still remain.
    And we’ll still have Wonkette and our esteemed editrix.

    • malsperanza

      I think at the beginning he underestimated the degree to which opposing forces would be willing to risk the entire fate of the country in order to thwart him. That was one sign of his newbie lack of experience. (Though to be fair, everyone underestimated the obstinacy of the GOP.)

      Also, he ran specifically on a promise to “change the culture of Washington.” It took him a long time to give up on that.

      • phoenix00

        I also think the more he pushed for change, the more The Establishment dug its heels.

  • TheGrandWaz00
    • Doug Langley

      I was born in ’56. Amazing how things have changed.

    • revenant

      back then, the Birchers were calling the ’56 platform Communism. Since then they have hijacked the Republican Party and remade it in their own image

    • Jukesgrrl

      Now I know where Bernie Sanders go all his good ideas.

  • AntiDerpomeme

    The bar is very high, future President Donna Rose Schoenkopf.

    • kindness

      Empress.

      • BloviateMe

        Wonkhaleesi.

        • jmk

          GENIUS!!

  • malsperanza

    OT I fuckin hate tiebreaker shootouts. Goddamn it.

    • dshwa

      I’d like to see two additional subs allowed in extra time, to let fresh legs run at tired players and have more games won before kicks.

      • malsperanza

        Change the offsides rule to make it easier to score.

    • Sheepshagger

      Is that how Cleveland is decided? Has the rules Comittee come back?

      • Pierre_de_Fermat

        Maybe Trump is expecting the convention to declare their allegiance to
        the king in the north – er –the president for life.

    • Reddishrabbit

      One of the worst ways to decide the results. At least the NHL don’t have that fot playoff games.

      • malsperanza

        Right. The NHL just gives everyone lead pipes and brass knuckles, and waits to see who’s still standing after 15 min.

  • Callyson

    Oh, this will end well:

    Trump Delegates: We’re Bringing Guns to Cleveland

    As the Republican convention in Cleveland approaches, several delegates from Pennsylvania who support Donald Trump say they are planning on bringing their guns with them to the GOP gathering. Why? They say they are worried about possible violent protest and even an attack from ISIS.

    James Klein, a pro-Trump delegate from the Harrisburg area, notes that guns won’t be needed inside the convention hall and that delegates won’t be allowed to bring in weapons. “But,” he adds, “there’s the hotels. There’s going to be dinners.”

    So Klein, an insurance executive and economist, has decided to come armed to Cleveland, and he has urged his fellow delegates to do the same. “We’re talking about ISIS,” he remarks, citing the recent shooting in Orlando and the bombings at the Istanbul airport. Referring to protesters outside Trump rallies, he adds, “We’re talking about people who have shown a propensity for violence.”

    tl;dr: I predict a riot

    • Astraea

      Delusional, paranoid, entitled, and aggressive.

      What could go wrong?

    • jw

      Open carry Cleveland + open bar convention parties = good times

      Maybe some of those knuckleheads will Darwin themselves.

    • Astraea

      Also too I hope Evan stays safe!

      • Jonny On Maui

        I’d chip in to get Evan a kelvar full body suit.

        I was going to suggest an X-Men or Superman style but I think he’d make a perfect Green Lantern…

    • JMP

      Why would ISIS attack the convention of their best recruiter?

      • cousin itt

        Soft-headed target?

        • efoveks

          Like an overripe cantaloupe!

          • kindness

            Get Gallagher to attack then.

          • mancityfooty .

            which one?

          • phoenix00

            AOT,K. With votes.

    • revenant

      a Trumpanzee accusing somebody else of “a propensity for violence”. okay, you guys at The Onion? might as well all go home, now. you could not possibly top this one, not on your best day

    • malsperanza
      • revenant

        now they’re just fuckin with us

        • cousin itt

          I well-dressed white dude with a slightly maniacal look. Oh, well done indeed.

          • Vienna Woods

            I like the vacant stare on the face of the guy with the gun.

          • Lamashtar

            Oh, that is not vacant. That is brimming with unholy promise.

        • You’ve only just worked that out??!!

      • Reddishrabbit

        Truly water guns are the terrorist first choice. I mean, summer in Ohio and get some water on you? Truly we can not allow that!!!

      • vivian

        You’d think the convention was in Flint, MI.

        • Lamashtar

          ::slow clap::

    • jmk

      These Drumpfensteins do think highly of themselves and love the drama, don’t they?

      • efoveks

        Ouch! Stop it ya big brute!

        Bwahahahahaha!

    • cousin itt

      “But,” he adds, “there’s the hotels. There’s going to be dinners.”

      For a nice terroristic dining experience may I recommend a first course of stewed dick followed by lightly breaded buttons of IED then for the main course, roast free-rage derp and finally, for dessert an A Idiot sorbet.

      • efoveks

        What? No Molotov cocktail to wash it down? What ARE you, a barbarian?

        • cousin itt

          Damn, also forgot the canned clams.

          • Vienna Woods

            YOU MONSTER!!!

          • The Wanderer

            AIYEE!

          • vivian

            HEY!

    • The Wanderer

      Predominantly white gun-fondlers in a largely black downtown area. Hmm. What could possibly go wrong?

    • katz

      Oh no, not dinners!

      • vivian

        I’ve heard the food in Cleveland can be pretty rough.

    • John Smith

      The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a drunk, horny conventioneer shooting his own dick off with a gun.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Going to guess they are driving to Ohio, since well…planes and guns and all that.

      • Pinkham’s Law

        You can take a gun, in checked baggage, without any issue. Details courtesy of TSA

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Oh gooooddddie! I was just getting used to people having nicfits and itching to get at their checked bags, now I gotta hang with folks itching to get their bangsticks, also, too.
          YAY!
          No wait, what is the opposite of yay?

          • Lamashtar

            Sometimes they make you pick up your dangerous baggage separately? When I flew with a gun, it didn’t show up til an hour after everybody else had gotten theirs and was dumped on the floor all by itself.

          • Marion in Savannah

            bzb? (second letter in lieu of penultimate, last in lieu of first…)

  • jw

    I thank my lucky stars every day for giving this country President Obama to pull us out of the ditch full of shit George Bush drove us into. I wish I could vote for him again and I’m looking forward to him becoming a Supreme.

    • Shan

      “I’m looking forward to him becoming a Supreme.”

      Yasss….

      • Objectifer

        Is Dianna Ross cool with it?

        • jmk

          She’d probably sing him to his seat during every session.

          • Shan

            Pick a song!

          • jmk

            How about I Hear a Symphony?

    • Rick Hill

      Can you imagine wingnuts reaction? “Wha…you mean….no… we should have just confirmed Merrick…”

      • jw

        I’m looking forward to that almost as much as I am to Don the Con becoming the Biggest Loser in American political history.

    • Walter Wellstone

      Rush Limbaugh would throw such a fit his Dominican house boys would run like hell scared shitless out of their dungeon.

      • jw

        Cool!

    • BoatOfVelociraptors

      Sort of makes you thankful for Sarah Palin. Between Bush’s ditch and the ditzy Kristol pick, America was scared shitless enough to hand the keys to a black guy named Hussein.

      • Grokenstein

        I’m grateful for her unintentional service to this country, which continues to this day as she clings to the throat of the foundering Trump.

  • Astraea

    lol BY SOURCES.

    Is someone monitoring HA HA Goodman?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/749350193095667713

    • jw

      Sources say Don the Con fucks goats – it’s on the interwebs, must be true.

      • efoveks

        It’s rough being a goat these days.

      • The Wanderer

        They’d have to be Angora goats. Only the classiest.

        • Andre

          I heard he fellates alpacas, not bangs angora goats, which is it?

          • The Wanderer

            Bangs. He’s deathly afraid the goat whose mouth he shoves his tiny carrot dick in will think it’s a treat, bite it off, chew it and swallow it before it can be recovered and reattached.

          • cynmac

            Way to skirt The Rules!

          • Juan de Fuca

            Llamas.

          • Marion in Savannah

            BOT, K.

      • TJ Barke

        I just read that too! Irresponsible not to speculate!

        • Jonny On Maui

          I just saw it too so it must be true…

    • The Wanderer

      “Sources?” The voices in the vast echoing chasm he calls his head?

    • Juan de Fuca

      Well Donald, there is still that case pending in US District Court in San Diego that allows the system another chance to get it right. And by get it right, I mean the guy involved in that scam ends up with a prison term similar to the one Don Lapre ended up with.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-martin/10-of-the-slipperiest-sco_b_4979131.html

      • doktorzoom

        The Trump University cases are, sadly, all civil suits. Though a nice fat judgment against Trump would be hilarious.

        • Juan de Fuca

          Ah, good point. And agreed – it would be hilarious.

    • cousin itt

      I can’t find that story–only that she was interviewed today. What does he think he knows and why?

      • Astraea

        It’s anyone’s guess. She was only just interviewed by the FBI today, it doesn’t seem likely that they’d make a decision the same day. UNLESS SHE BENGHAZI’D THEM

        • Reddishrabbit

          She walked in and said “Remember Vince Foster?”. That’s all she needs to say.

          • Smokahontas

            As long as she’s holding the pillow that killed Scalia I’d take her seriously!

        • The Wanderer

          Before the interview, she summoned three tutelary demons and introduced them as her lawyers. The brimstone and the hordes of rats might have influenced things a tad.

      • Juan de Fuca

        Good point but this is also the same guy who once “tweeted” that the Hawaii health director who verified Pres Obama’s birth certificate died soon afterwards in a plane crash. Insinuating that Obama had her killed because she verified he was indeed born in Hawaii.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd990d40a386616ec856b54967f2f32b098c667cc246df879852e577c305c4aa.png

        • Jukesgrrl

          I wonder what charges he would bring against her. Having no new countries hate us that didn’t already hate us before she became secretary of state? Having been in public service her whole life? Showing us her tax returns? Using big words? Getting her hair done by someone with taste? Never having been divorced? If he thinks she’s a murderer, why on earth did he invite her to his (most recent) wedding?

        • revenant

          was wondering where all the writers for The Weekly World News went after they folded, but no more- they obvs ghost-write Der Drumpf’s nasty twaddle.

  • ahughes798

    I think President OBama is a thinker and a reader. He’s a smart guy, no doubt. But, as you said, he spent waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time trying to make nice with republicans, and it pissed me off. I expect Hillary to do the same.

    • draNgNon

      I forget who said it, but he is President of the u.s. last i checked, even though many of us do not wish it to be so, that also includes the Republicans.

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        Actually, he said it himself XD

    • Serai 1

      Gee, it’s almost as if being President is way more complicated than anyone without access to the job could ever know.

      • ahughes798

        Yeah, like who knew, (when immediately after he was elected,  Republicans came out and straight up said they’d rather see America fail than OBama succeed.)that continually trying to make nice with the Republicans wouldn’t work. I mean, what a total surprise!

        • Serai 1

          —————————————————————-> THE POINT

          your head

          Try not to be so arrogant about a job you’ve never had and will never have.

          • ahughes798

            What is complicated about knowing the R’s are going to try to screw you any way they can, and not calling them out on it until the last year or two of your presidency? Might some of his current insouciance have benefited the Dems in the mid-terms?

    • cynmac

      I don’t expect Hillary to waste one minute trying to be nice with Republicans, especially also too if the Democrats take the Senate!

  • kindness

    Wow. Guess we’re all lucky Obama didn’t run against Bernie. The BBros would have crucified Obama because he is a sell out.

    • Serai 1

      Yeah, in their minds they would have done that.

  • JoeChristmas

    And gas is $2.09. Thanks Obama!

    • Jonny On Maui

      In some places…

      • eddi

        Remember “price higher West of the Rockies”? Until they invent teleportation, “price higher in the Pacific” will be the unstated caveat.

        • Jonny On Maui

          ALL the petrol is imported. We’re told the electrical grid is maxed out and no more solar power can be fed into it.

          This place, like everywhere else, could use some serious infrastructure upgrades.

          • Be Gin

            Infrastructure upgrade in Paradise?

            New harps? New wings? Giant Hi-Fi speaker columns on top of Hilo ganged to massive Phase Linear Amp complex that glows in the darK?

            And “Dark Side of the Moon” cranked to 10!

          • Jonny On Maui

            Even paradise has its thorns. I’ll have to look it up, Ms OM was reading some Maui news, $15/hr minimum wage here no where near cuts it to live. The majority of jobs are service. A lot of folks live and die on tips. Everything costs more. There are a lot of bumper stickers. “Welcome to Maui! Leave your money. Now go home.” Outside of tips and local purchases, that money leaves the islands and goes home to corporate.

            There are ways around. I can get fresher fish cheaper from the guy on the side of the road. The money stays local. Same with farmers markets. Bought from a neighbor today, got a discount.

            There’s a lot of deep poverty here as elsewhere but there’s also a difference. There’s a sense of community, folks were talking about this on another thread. People just help out and not expecting anything in return.

            So yeah, Paradise.

          • eddi

            Just keep voting Democrat. Hopefully we can get into a position to do something before you are down to human fat candles.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Just to be on the safe side, maybe become real good budies with Rush and Chris Cris

          • Jonny On Maui

            You’re talking about the bands right?

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            ….yes. Obviously. Nothing to do with human fat candles *shifty eyes*

          • Jonny On Maui

            These islands are blue, blue, blue. I will vote to make sure it stays that way.

          • eddi

            No island is an island… or something like that. I’ll do what I can from this end.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Buck eighty-nine here :)
      I am not gloating.
      :D

      • Amalga

        $2.45 at Costco and on the Nisqually Reservation in WA today. $2.65 and up elsewhere.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          I am gloating a bit.
          I do find it weird, though. I mean, you all got refineries and stuff out there, right? Don’t think we do. So whyfore is ours cheaper?

          • efoveks

            In CA, we have a special “summer blend” which is the flimsy-ass excuse Big Oil uses to keep the prices jacked up as high as they can get away with (pardon the bad grammar). If not that, then the usual bitch about SAFETY (who needs it amirite?) costing money. :-(

            Oh., and $2.55 at Costco

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I usually expect the prices to rise juuusssttt before memorial day, level out, then rise slowly through august toward labor day, then taper off to about a nickle more expensive than last year at the same time.
            This year of course oil went BOOM. That was nice ^.^

          • Amalga

            One refinery up near Bellingham at Cherry Point that I know of. We also have probably the highest gas taxes in the country although most are voter approved so I am OK with that since they go for transportation projects.

  • idiotboy

    Our family has health insurance. I really cannot say that enough.
    Yes, single payer would be A LOT better.
    Did I say we have health insurance?
    Oh, and a Black person got elected as POTUS, still makes me tear up.

    • revenant

      and we are not in a war with Iran. and Social Security has not been privatized (handed over to Wall Street to loot). and, and , and…..

    • Word. I’m a critic of Barry’s foreign policy, but leftists trying to argue that Obamacare was somehow not worth it (because some of the poor still get left out) are just off the planet.

      • Astraea

        Honestly, I don’t know if I disagree with Obama on foreign policy because the way we operate in the world as a country is so complicated. America has done some terrible things and continues to do them to this day, and will continue into the future. I don’t know how much one president who might not agree would be able to change the way we engage in conflicts in other countries, aside from, say, not taking us into a completely unnecessary war by lying about evidence.

        • Serai 1

          Yeah, I think the days when America could just go stomping around wherever we please are over.

      • Shan

        Poorz mostly got left out in states like mine (Brownbackistan) because the leges didn’t expand Medicaid and take all the free federal dollars, because they are A Idiots and want people to die.

    • Serai 1

      I got to go to the doctor for the first time in 20 years.

  • Pole-Smoking? A really energetic erotic dance?

    • Jonny On Maui

      It can be if done correctly.

      In either arena…

      • Juan de Fuca

        O/T
        Jonny! Been looking for ya. Ever heard of these folks? Starting to look at lots on Maui and the Big Island…
        http://mahanahomes.com

        • Jonny On Maui

          Hi Juan, no, we didn’t but we did check out these folk;

          http://www.bambooliving.com/

          There’s alot of neat kits. It gets tricky cuz often times the kit seller does only that, sell the kit. They’ll have a list of contractors that have put them together, but you get to deal with them and all of the other issues too like water and power.

          We went with someone who does it all so everything, waste, water, power, house, permitting, all done by them. There are modifications that we requested, we’re having the flooring and countertops installed, but this isn’t our first goat rope either.

          The good thing is the folk we went with don’t get the final payment until we move in. Maui Electric is looking like the long pole but I don’t have to do or say a thing. The head of the company we used headslaps them daily I believe, gently of course…

          • Juan de Fuca

            Yeah, I remember you mentioned the Bamboo Living company and we checked them out last night also. Bamboo would be cool because of the renewable resource and the Makaha homes site included a plan that fit exactly what what we would be looking for and for a decent price.

            RIght now, we need to decide where we’re going to live 5-10 years from now and if we are really going to move back to Hawaii, and which Island. I could easily see myself surfing Lahaina Harbor every weekend or a couple of days out of the week for the rest of my life. There are rumors of a good longboarding spot there :)

            Right now we’re just dreaming/brainstorming/loosely planning, but that’s how we ended up in SoCal, on a whim and prayer and it worked out just fine. We at least have plenty of family in Hawaii to help plan that move, if we do it. Plenty of licensed contractors in the family also. I had nobody to go to in Cali – didn’t know a soul. Good advice re. hiring a single contractor to handle all of the installation headaches.

            Cheers for the info Jonny . Have a great Fourth. We’ll be at the beach tomorrow, braving the crowd at Torrey Pines. Pray for us.00/

          • Jonny On Maui

            Sounds like you’re getting a plan together. If you do make it back to the islands it looks like you’ve got all the help you could need.
            I’m gonna have to relearn how to swim before I try surfing again, twas very far back in the past in Santa Cruz…

            You and yours have a very safe and sane 4th! Enjoy the beach!

  • Jeff in the desert

    FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!

    • Smokahontas

      I believe it’s spelled “moar.” I’ll use it in a sentence: “Needs moar Obama.”

      • Jonny On Maui

        Isn’t the intern supposed to be working on a rosetta stone?

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          His head probably splodey sploded when he tried.

  • bookish

    Great article.

  • Pierre_de_Fermat

    I have not always agreed with him, but we are fortunate to have had him as our President.

  • Biff52

    Prez O was just on A Prairie Home Companion, must be ol’ Garrison Keillor’s swan song.

    • cousin itt

      What a way to take your final bow. THAT’S classy.

    • Parchment Scroll

      ~Oh, look who’s comin’
      through that door…~

      1) I didn’t know they were still on the air, and
      2) That’s awesome!

    • MsAnthropesMr

      I forgive Pres. Obama for that transgression.

      • ahughes798

        Sometimes Keillor’s essays were good, but in the main, good riddance! I really, really hated it when he would “sing.”

        • MsAnthropesMr

          His essays are often biting, and insightful. Lake Wobegon days is actually quite dark in parts – the 95 thesis parts is good:
          http://thechurchofbuvu.org/page2/files/95-theses-95.pdf

          But the show? ick. It will be hosted by genuine legend Chris Thiele now, whose mandolin playing makes me hang my head in shame.

        • Gregory Brown

          Garrison Keillor is a genius, and his tales from Lake Wobegone are humor classics. I can live without the singing.

    • kaw143

      How many swan songs does this make for Garrison’s little cash machine, anyway?

      • Jonny On Maui

        OT: Saw Anna today, replied but haven’t heard back yet.

        • kaw143

          Well, that allays my fears that something terrible happened, anyway. Good to know! Thanks for reaching out.

      • Jukesgrrl

        He’s like radio’s version of Cher.

    • berkeleyfarm

      It is his last show.

  • Kathy Taus

    I fell in love with 9 years ago and I’m still in love with him. And so proud of him.

  • CripesAmighty

    Well, that’s quite enough of that! Back to stupid, hysterical and mawkish. Cuz that’s what Makes America Great ™.

  • (Yes, I know kittens are sometimes killed in drone strikes.)

    wate whuuuu?!?

    • Sardonicuss

      He seems concerned: Wut? Only two terms?!

  • Grant Saw

    Obama is one of the better presidents, undoubtedly.

    • Duke

      Best president this century! Including the last 19 days of Bill.

    • As beloved as he is now by many I can image history being very, very kind to the man.

    • Shoto

      And everything he’s done (or tried to do) has been accomplished in the context of overt, clinically insane push-back from the most obstructionist Congress in modern American history.

      • Shan

        Clinically insane. Yes to that.

  • Poe’s Law

    OK, but next time could use leave out the kitten abuse?

  • Be Gin

    I remember a president who stationed US Marines in Beirut where religious nuts of the various Abrahamic Cults were killing each there. I remember that one of the cults killed a bunch of those Marines. I remember that the Marines were withdrawn later. To this day that President who managed that pointless exercise remains an Iconic saint to a lot of people.

    But I will never be one of those people.

    Now Barack O? He’s is a saint to me. I want his face carved into Mount Rushmore 20 weeks after he leaves office.

  • mancityfooty .

    OT but the little rain we in eastern Kansas have received so far has done much to keep the fireworks shooters indoors. I was worried with the whole “1-4″, 6″ possibly locally” predictions (and I will admit, the warning time frame isn’t over yet), but so far, so good.
    This is our backyard flooded:

    • MsAnthropesMr

      Tie down the shed – or row it around. Your choice.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      Dig a hole and you’d have a pool!

      • mancityfooty .

        The Mrs. specifically forbade this.
        Something about sewer pips, phone lines and something.

        • Vegan and Tiara

          She’s a killjoy!

    • Sardonicuss

      Mine looks like that right now…and I live out in the sticks- where the fireworks maniacs like to go. This will be the first fourth in 6? years I haven’t had to worry about them burning my house down.

    • Shan

      South Central KS here. My back yard doesn’t look yours but the brick-lined street in front of my house does.

      • mancityfooty .

        This isn’t how my yard looks now, or yet, maybe. That pic is from a month or two ago.

    • Jukesgrrl

      We even had terrific rain storms in Southern Arizona off and on all day Thursday and Friday. Flooding is common here because the sandy desert ground can’t soak up that much water fast enough and there is serious run-off. My house is well-situated to avoid flooding but I had a leak in my garage because the flue couldn’t handle so much water. Not complaining … we’re always thrilled to have rain. It’s just weird to have so much at once.

    • berkeleyfarm

      Aiieeeeee

  • Shoto

    Another great piece, Ms. Editrix.

    “…a man who is imperfect and with whom I don’t always agree but who is decent, sober, thoughtful…” Yup.

    A few hours ago, we got the news that Elie Wiesel passed. During the brief teevee piece, a clip was shown of Wiesel, Merkel and Prez. B. Barry standing together and reflecting during a trip to Buchenwald. I tried to picture Orange Man-Baby Drumpf presiding over such an event – and there have been more than I care to count over the past 7 1/2 years. Needless to say, such a mental image needed to be quickly obliterated by downing a cocktail containing Drano, acetone, jet fuel, transmission fluid…and a twist of lemon. (Too much?)

    If your drunk uncle is yammering about “Making Murrica Great Again” during the 4th of July festivities, you might want to interject just such a clarifying point. I can’t even…

  • Snopes Shop

    I remember quite a few commenters over on these parts bitching about Obummer and my getting slapped down when I defended him (dux and covers).

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Now the song from that movie is going through my head on a loop and I blame YOU.

    • Sardonicuss

      I got run out of C&L three years ago for the same thing….and oh yeah, apparently you are a Bad Seed.

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        *raises hand* Though I was not so much run off as I told a mess of people to do unspeakable but maybe fun acts instead of being dipshits. How would I know telling folk to fuck the fuck off would not gain their love? I meant it sincerely…..

      • JMP

        That was one of the several ostensibly liberal blogs I used to read and gave up on in 2009, after they turned on Obama shortly after he took office when he failed to give them a pony. Though I never into the comments there and wonder what that must have been like.

        • Sardonicuss

          It had been my daily read through most of the Shrub era. I remember when they transitioned from a wordpress? or blogspot and finally got their own domain in fact. The commentariet was fairly reasonable group that required and got little moderation.
          Then slowly, the Obama as villain voices started representing a larger and larger segment, until defending him would draw a barrage of attacks. He wanted “the grand bargain”, he wanted to cut social security, he “refused” to close Gitmo…and of course “drones”.. ect..
          Eventually, all but a couple of the actual writers got the memo as well. It became kos lite, and non-purists, who didn’t get that Obama was really just Bush 2.0 were not welcome. If you had been there a long time, it looked like and infection running it’s course, except the patient never got better.

  • Smokahontas

    Whoever isn’t in it for the pole smoking and crack doesn’t interest me one bit… ok, maybe a little bit if they have Justin Trudeau’s cell number on speed dial.

  • Mickey Donovan

    Out of the park you hit it, Madame Wonkette.

  • kaw143

    Oh, great. He isn’t content to simply steal the glory of America, but now he’s stolen the Globe of Peace from Naboo:

    http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/galleries/2013/Review_QueenAmidalaOTC/Review_QueenAmidalaOTC_stillB.jpg

    IMPEACH! MAKE CORUSCANT GREAT AGAIN!

  • Vegan and Tiara

    I love him, and I dont care who knows it.

  • Sardonicuss
    • MsAnthropesMr

      Will you take this?

    • Doug Langley

      Wha-a-at??? Trump said something that was a teensy bit exaggerated? I’m shocked! SHOCKED!!!

      • dshwa

        ll exaggeration starts with a tiny penis and expands from there. Except for the aforementioned penis. Science fact.

  • Sami

    My current expectation is that he traded supporting the TPP for something really important. It’s basically good for American corporations, bad for American people, and catastrophic for non-American people.

    I do love Obama anyway.

  • fredfnord

    Well, *that* was patronizing.

    • Bitter Scribe

      What, exactly, was “patronizing”?

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        *that* was. With little stars.

        • Bitter Scribe

          Little bitty itty tiny stars, that match the brains of Obama critics from the left. Along with the right.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Twinkle twinkle little star,
            I blame Obama, there you are

          • Tansy Geek

            Twinkle, twinkle little bat
            Wearing your purity hat
            Up above the comments, fly
            Like a toaster in the sky.

            I panicked at the end there

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            If yer toaster is flying, you have some serious issues involving flying toasters.

          • Jonny On Maui

            Or you got into the brown acid…

          • Andre

            Can we do maths now? All this rhetoric is making my hair ache.

          • Jonny On Maui

            We can do ALL the maths now.

          • Doug Langley

            Or you still have your screen saver from the ’80s.

          • fredfnord

            Oh, sorry, my mistake, I didn’t realize you were a garden variety asshole.

          • efoveks

            Snark is one thing, mean is another. If he is wrong, post a response like a grown up please.

          • fredfnord

            I’m confused. So ‘People who are to the left of Obama have tiny brains’ is a response like a grownup, whereas my response to that is worthy of censure? Or are you saying that I have to be a grown-up but Bitter Scribe doesn’t? Or that my response would have been fine if I’d just been wittier about it?

          • WomanInAMood

            It’s called humor. Us Earth people use it sometimes to amuse ourselves. Best part, there’s no charge! Please feel free to try it.

          • fredfnord

            Hmm. I could use some more examples. I’d prefer ones that weren’t basically just ‘hey people who disagree with me have a tiny brain’ but I’m open to more variations on that theme if it’s the only one you folks know.

          • WomanInAMood

            “Us folks”? I’m going out on a limb, but are you new to these parts? It’s ok if you are. I am too.

            And “people who disagree with me have a tiny brain” is not unheard of elsewhere.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            No one disagrees here. WE AGREE ON EVERYTHING. Just ask Wombles :D

          • dshwa

            We are Wonkborg. Resistance is futile. You will be snarksimilated.

          • WomanInAMood

            IKR? It’s creepy, really how much of a hive mind we have,

          • Doug Langley

            No, we don’t.

          • BloviateMe

            I agree. Or, disagree? FUCK, you confused me. Where’s that goddamned manual….

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            YES WE DO. QED.
            It is in caps so it must be true. Plus, I read it on the internets.

          • Doug Langley

            Alright, alright. Jeez.

          • fredfnord

            “You folks” being Bitter Scribe, Doug, and you, at the moment. And new isn’t the right word, I just don’t comment much.

          • WomanInAMood

            We are devastated to hear that.

          • Jukesgrrl

            I didn’t read anyone saying that, directly or implied. We disagree that Rebecca’s comments are “patronizing.” If that is indeed what you meant in your short post.

          • Doug Langley

            We agree completely with your first two words.

          • fredfnord

            Are you an editor, or have you acquired a tapeworm?

          • Tansy Geek

            Alright. You have to explain that one. Tapeworm?

          • fredfnord

            He’s speaking in the plural. I’ve discounted the idea that he’s a king or emperor, so either he’s an editor or he’s plural in and of himself. And I’m discounting the idea that he’s pregnant. Other options are somewhat limited.

            It’s a quote, actually, though. Damned if I can remember who from.

          • Tansy Geek

            Multiple personality disorder and demonic possession are always options and good for a laugh.

          • fredfnord

            Oh, I hadn’t thought of demonic possession. I am on a ‘don’t make fun of the mentally ill’ kick at the moment so I avoided that intentionally. (Yes, I freely admit that I am going further than is necessary, I don’t insist anyone else follow me.)

          • Doug Langley

            Okay, quick vote. How many people on this thread think Fred’s confused? Hmm, two, three, five, nine, fifteen . . . yep, plural is indicated.

          • Doug Langley

            Hate to break it to you, but English does not hold “tapeworm” synonymous with “editor”.

          • fredfnord

            I take it you’re trying to confuse me further? You’re certainly succeeding.

          • Doug Langley

            Okay. Either you’re on something right now, or you need to get to a nearby community college and enroll in some English classes, stat. Your posts are rambling, disjointed, and show a lack of understanding of the meaning of words.

          • fredfnord

            Technically it should be “Your posts are rambling and disjointed, and show a lack of understanding of the meanings of words.” This is because you can’t use an alternative predicate clause in a simple series of adjectives — you have to make it an entirely separate clause — and ‘meanings’ must agree with ‘words’.

          • Juan de Fuca

            Are you uncomfortable when deciding to use a colon or semi-colon? A period or a comma? I often have a difficult time with them and use the “-” thing also. Not judging.

          • kaw143

            “We”, as in, you and I, representing more than one person. You say, “I am confused,” and he agrees with the assessment; therefore, the two of you agree. Which, as he is one of the two in question, he can reasonably describe as, “we”.

          • fredfnord

            Wouldn’t it be ‘We agree completely on your first two words’ then, rather than ‘with’? (I ask this because that interpretation didn’t even occur to me.)

          • kaw143

            I can see a valid argument for that, yes. However, the interpretation I gave above was honestly my first thought. Your version would be more precise, I would say. Then again, at Wonkette, we usually don’t reach the level of grammatical precision which inspired Harold Ross and James Thurber to hurl ashtrays at each other over the placement of a comma.*

            *Not a snark, or even a criticism, really. It is a paraphrase of a quotation by some luminary or another which described the ultimate in grammar arguments, which apparently actually happened and which the author had witnessed.

          • Pickwicknext

            We’re exceptional assholes around here. We only accept excellence

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Pics or gtfo

          • Jonny On Maui

            Be very careful what you ask for…

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            You’d think I’d know better by now, right?

          • kaw143

            Jen, Jen, Jen.

            You really do NOT want say anything which might be construed as asking for pictures of exceptional assholes in a world that also includes Goatse.

            Especially not with sick motherfuckers like me around.

          • Jonny On Maui

            GMTAASH

          • kaw143

            Get My Tissues And Ask Sarah How?

          • Jonny On Maui

            Great Minds Think Alike And Shit Happens.

            From The Witch of Endor.

          • kaw143

            I should have known. Forget the words of witches at your own peril.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            You never know what I might be into, Kaw *waggles brow* just in case, I am not googling that word.

          • kaw143

            When I was shown that photo, I was expected to recoil in horror. Instead, my response was, “Wow. Look at all of the work and effort he obviously put into that.

            For the record, being impressed was considered THE WRONG response.

            But, then, I don’t squick easily. Or pretty much at all.

            Two Girls, One Cup was all, “Yep, that’s a thing. This one is faked, but it’s still a thing.”

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I used to squick easy, but then I had kids. Vomit, pus, stuff that should be in a toilet but is in clothing/bed clothing/walls, bugs of all makes and models, blood.
            Yeaaaahhhh I squick much less now. Except at spiders.

          • kaw143

            Squicking at spiders is simply the most reasonable response that any human could make when faced with the sight of demonstrably abject evil.

          • revenant

            yeah, babies will cure you of squick right quick… sad to say, it (the non-squick surface) can wear off

          • cynmac

            Did someone say pics?

          • kaw143

            “And monkeys with rainbows flying out of their butts my fly out of my butt.”

          • Pickwicknext

            No thank you. I have eaten today and would like it to stay there

          • Bitter Scribe

            There are many, many things you don’t realize, beginning with your own stupidity.

      • WomanInAMood

        I do not think that word means what s/he thinks it means.

      • fredfnord

        I have to ask: are you sincerely unable to see how any part of this could be considered patronizing? Really?

        Ohh… I get it. You’re being patronizing too! Because asking someone to explain something that should be blazingly obvious to anyone — such as how being told that if you don’t love President Obama and protested his drone strikes you’re just a little kiddie who doesn’t remember Bush — is one of the two best ways to be patronizing. The other being comparing someone to a child.

        Sometimes I honestly think that people like Rebecca, and like you, honestly didn’t understand why Sanders supporters got so mad at Clinton supporters in general. The constant drumbeat of ‘he’s not a REAL candidate’ and ‘he’s just a protest candidate’ and ‘anyone who votes for him is an unrealistic person who just isn’t SERIOUS about politics’ and … it’s all infantilizing, it’s all belittling, it’s all patronizing. And then when the Sanders supporters got angry about it, they were the bad guys. It’s a good gig.

        • kaw143

          Honestly, I must have read a different article, because I didn’t get any of that in Rebecca’s piece. Then again, I tend to think of patronizing as a demand-side phenomenon.

          You know, like when Bernie supporters would constantly Bern-splain every little aspect of the Democratic nomination process to me and why it is so unfair and corrupt all the time. Or how Hillary is just a corporate shill who isn’t a real liberal because she has given speeches.

          I could call that sort of thing “patronizing”, but that would be unhelpful. Blaming my emotional response on the perceived intent of others often is.

          …Which, having been said, is probably patronizing, too. *sigh*

          • fredfnord

            I had to spend most of the nomination process explaining to my Bernie-supporting friends that most of what they thought about Clinton was false, was spun up by the right, and was accepted by them because they were inclined to disbelieve people to the right of them.

            But I was a Sanders supporter. And having to spend large amounts of my time and energy defending a candidate who I didn’t even support, WHILE being ridiculed by Clinton supporters for being a totally hopeless ridiculous romantic who wants everything to happen now and isn’t ACTUALLY to the left of any Clinton supporter he just likes to think he is because he thinks he’s better than the rest of us…

            It has been a long campaign season.

          • Tansy Geek

            Yes. Yes it has been a long campaign. Hugs and offers of soothing things. This still has nothing to do with whether or not Obama is a chill dude.

          • fredfnord

            I like Obama, I really do. But saying that people who protest the idea of any president — even a chill dude — routinely assassinating foreign nationals are children who don’t remember Bush, which in turn says ‘not only don’t I really care much but I can’t understand how anyone else might’…

            Hey. Whatever floats your barge, I guess.

          • kaw143

            The article specifically mentions drone strikes as a bad thing.

            I don’t like them either.

            I would, however, argue that they are not quite as terrible as amassing the entire might of the nation to raze a country based entirely on lies.

            Now, what all of this has to do with either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders, I don’t know.

        • WomanInAMood

          Many of the posters and moderators here supported Bernie. And Rebecca wasn’t even talking about the Sanders campaign. She simply pointed out that many of his most fervent supporters don’t seem to remember the ghastly shitshow that was W.

        • Doug Langley

          The article didn’t have anything to do with Sanders, or Clinton supporters, or drone strikes. And if we couldn’t read your mind and try to untangle your incoherence, somehow that’s “patronizing”. Whatever.

          • fredfnord

            My apologies. I assumed that it would be understandable that the part of the article that actually in so many words compared people to children would be recognizably the one that would be considered patronizing. Maybe that’s just my etymological obsessions talking.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Obviously not, since hardly anyone else got the same reaction.
            Perhaps if you block quoted that part and then said it was patronizing, that would make more sense?

          • Doug Langley

            Or maybe you just don’t have good communication skills.

          • BloviateMe

            I have good words.

          • dshwa

            My wordz are gooder!

          • BloviateMe

            Bigly so!

          • Doug Langley

            Are they yuge? And classy?

          • BloviateMe

            Terrific. The best.

          • dshwa

            They make the splody heads splode!

          • Tansy Geek

            So many words. Possibly all of the words. At least in two or three sentences. At this point you are acting like a child. A very precocious child who will graduate from a prestigious school with top honors, but a child none the less. Don’t take the whole thing so seriously or we may have to resort to dick jokes and everybody wants that.

        • Tansy Geek

          I think ,maybe, you are a little overly sensitive for some reason. You tripped and got your Sanders in Rebecca’s Obama.

        • BloviateMe

          I’m down with a healthy debate, I eat it up. But good gravy man, you came in with an agenda. If the article really offended you, you could have went with a point by point rebuttal off the bat. Instead, you opted for the “well *that* was patronizing.”

          And after the first person that asked why it was (which you were clearly waiting for), what was your answer?

          “I have to ask: are you sincerely unable to see how any part of this could be considered patronizing? Really? Ohh… I get it. You’re being patronizing too!” etc.

          You fully intended to attack the first person who DARED ask. Victim mentality much?

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          You know, as a Sanders supporter, it would sure be great if people did not drop off loftier than thou art lefter than all other lefties and then get all surprised when folk take exception to it.
          Just a thought.

          • efoveks

            I think we mighta melted his snowflake. :-(

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I hope not. Usually a more sane guy. But srsly, dropping off how /that/ was this or that without clarification is obviously “I am spoiling for a fight, so respond to me!”
            Think I am not going to bother anymore.

        • cynmac

          Lighten up, Frances. If you get so hep’d up over an opinion piece, I’d hate to see how upset you must get over “real news”. This article had absolutely nothing at all to do with Bernie.

        • Andre

          Fuck it, I got half way through trying to be nice and decided it wasn’t worth it. You are entitled to your opinion. Obama isn’t perfect, nor was Bush, Clinton, JW Bush, Reagan, Carter, all the way back to Washington. The difference is that Obama has tried to please the war junkies in a limited capacity, the knee jerk reactionaries to further his goals of health care, less war, and so forth. That you will vilify him over some things, and pretend that Bernie, or Jill Stein, or Nader won’t find ways to fuck up also is astounding. There are NO perfect candidates, except for me and no fucking way am I up for trying to be elected. Go see Boudreaux, he has a paste made just for you.

          • fredfnord

            On the other hand, I’m going to try to be nice for a change.

            When I protest something that Obama does, it doesn’t mean I think he’s a bad man, or a bad president, or that Jill Stein or Gary Coleman would be a better president. It just means I don’t want him to do that any more.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            ok, that made me giggle XD

          • efoveks

            Noted and appreciated :)

          • Andre

            No worries, and touché. I spend so much time defending Hillz over RWNJ spin pieces with my center right family, friends, and coworkers when I voted for Bernie and am hoping for an even further left agenda, I just get het up when a fellow libtard bitches about incremental progress when almost half the country wants to return to the 1850s.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            heh half of that half would prefer the 1650’s

          • cynmac

            The 1850’s with modern medicine. The 1650’s with modern plumbing.

          • Andre

            Gary Coleman, now there is a thought. “Whatchoo talkin’ ’bout, Putin?”

          • Zyxomma

            But Gary Coleman is deader than Fat Tony Scalia.

          • Andre

            Really? Still a better candidate than djt

          • kaw143

            That is clear and concise, and thank you for that.

            I, too, would prefer that he not do that, anymore.

          • phoenix00
          • kaw143

            HEY! You are forgetting me, the also, too, Perfect Candidate. I make no promises, and I intend to keep them all!

          • Andre

            I’ll make a deal with you. You vote for me, I’ll vote for you, and by Drumpfmatics, we will have locked up 798% of the vote.

          • kaw143

            We’ve got hoooge percentages. The best percentages. Classy.

        • Seriously? This article had nothing to do with Bernie fucking Sanders or his fans. Not everything is about Bernie. Good gawd.

        • JMP

          No, we understand why some – certainly not all – Sanders supporters got so mad at Clinton supporters; because they were a bunch of whiny babies who think that if a liberal politician isn’t 100% perfect then that makes them a “neoliberal” sellout who is really exactly the same as a Republican, because those Sanders supporters were idiots with no sense of perspective at all.

        • Zango LeHoonery

          I see your point. However, I am somewhat in the camp that we, the USA, are not united, and some of us are in denial about how we are a warmongering bloody murdering nation. It’s our thing. It’s not going to change soon, Sanders or not. Bernie has a big hard on for F35’s, and it’s good biz. He’s no saint, nor are any of us. Nonetheless, being pragmatists, and practical, we, are pushing for progressive policies and politicians. It may be patronizing, but for fucks sake, we may preach, as you, the higher ground, but we need to hold the trenches, or we get asshats like W and Trump in office who have a scorched earth policy. While we are trying to plant and harvest peace amidst a bloody planet, these will kill anything they consider the “other”. Fucking fuck that up your patronizing.

        • Bitter Scribe

          We understand perfectly well why Sanders supporters get mad at Clinton supporters. It’s because they’re immature, unrealistic, and susceptible to simplistic appeals by a self-aggrandizing utter asshole who has accomplished exactly nothing in all his years in Congress, is despised by an overwhelming majority of his colleagues, and can’t even be bothered to identify with the political party he thinks he’s entitled to lead. So stay home and pout on election day, if you consider THAT a good gig.

    • No. It wasn’t. “Patronizing” takes place when I sit down with a nearly full bottle of Patron and a few hours later it is nearly empty.

  • cousin itt

    OMG Nerd Alert…Nerd Alert…Nerd Alert

    The NASA Juno spacecraft will arrive at the Jupiter System on July 4! Orbital insertion at approx 9PM PDT. After a nearly 5 year trip, traveling now at nearly 70,000 mph, the probe’s ongoing mission will be to explore and understand origin and evolution of Jupiter, look for solid planetary core, map magnetic field, measure water and ammonia in deep atmosphere, observe auroras. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/juno/main/index.html

    • It’s a trap!

    • Jonny On Maui

      WhooHoo!! Nerd fix! That’s 6 pm here. We’ll have the NASA channel on for dinner…

      • kaw143

        There’s a NASA channel?

        Why don’t I have the NASA channel?

        …And, no, TLC stopped counting long before they started airing Honey Boo-boo.

    • Courser

      It’s very cool. I can’t wait to see pictures. It’s a partnership between Lockeed Martin & the University of Colorado (I think).

      • Jonny On Maui

        Yup.

    • The Wanderer

      I can hardly wait. I want pictures, and data, please. DailyKos posted a pic of the Jovian system as Juno approached it a few days ago.

  • Jeff in the desert

    And……he is left handed.

    • efoveks

      You bet your sweet-lovin’ ass he is :-D !

      A sinistral person meself…

      • Jeff in the desert

        Me, too. Not a bit adroit.

      • kaw143

        As my mother used to tell me, “The left of hand are right of mind!”

        To which, I’d respond, “You bet your sweet bippy, ya’ fuckin’ rightie!”*

        *N.B.: I did not actually say this to my mother. Had I done so, I wouldn’t now be here to make this comment, which isn’t allowed.

        • Jeff in the desert

          But there is that scissors thing,

          • kaw143

            My scissors never get stolen. Science fact.

          • efoveks

            Yah, but it’s fun to watch when righties try to use them. heeheehee

          • cynmac

            My grandma was a seamstress and left handed. She had lefty scissors and pinking shears. I had to bring my own pair when I went to her house to make clothes.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            btw and ot and all of that, good to see ya again ^.^ Was thinking of you on dance party night.
            I….have no life.

          • Jonny On Maui

            Oh please Jen. Yer a live one…

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            That may be, but I got all excited to buy a blazer today, Jonny.
            Me, ex field hand who used to consider offices for chumps and walls for idiots. Who once wore a uniform that consisted of whatever was clean enough to be able to bend when I needed it to.
            I feel like a total traitor. It is a cute one, one of the local goodwills gets in good named brand shit, so I picked a couple up, a black, a gray and a pink. YES I SAID PINK. I am still shocked there is a color in my wardrobe.

            Edit: long way to say see? Proof, no life XD

          • efoveks

            New job requires new clothes, so why not be excited?

            And pink is the bestest. You go, girl!

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            It is a darker more purply pink but still. I am right proud of myself for buying a color that is not black, gray, brown, dark blue or blue genes.
            Now of course I need some tops to go with. Pretty sure I can get away with the black pants.

            heh. Or….jeans (ed.)

          • Andre

            Congrats on the new job. I have been hit or miss the past few weeks what with crazy deadlines, and having to focus on reporting (grrrrr, I want to do the maths, not the writing about the maths).

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Aw thank you! And nneeeener. You mathletes punish us verbals with the maths, only fair you get to be punished with the writing up sometimes.
            (more seriously: hug: I know how report writing can be, you can DO EEEETTT!)

          • Jonny On Maui

            You deserve this Jen. You’ve worked for this. Wear those blazers with pride.

            I kept 1 suit. Almost a silver gray. The pink shirt fits it to a tee…

          • Courser

            Oooh, every woman like a sharp dresssed man!

          • cynmac

            Thanks, babe.

          • efoveks

            Striaght up, I’ve done dressmaking and now I quilt, but being a seamstress– that’s what separates the rest of us amateurs from the truly talented and visionary. :)

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I can embroider and patchwork and quilt…when I feel like bothering (usually get lazy and just do seam quilting) but I tried doing clothing once and it was like that episode on the cosby show where the shirt came out with weird sleeves in odd places and stuff…… so for reals, I hold the bunch of you clothing makers in awe.

          • efoveks

            Yes, I gave up making clothes because of that– too much work!

          • cynmac

            Yeah, when she retired, she was happy to help you make stuff and I learned a lot from her. I used to make all of my daughter’s Halloween costumes and I made my BF a costume for his birthday earlier this month.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I can use both hands for scissoring.
            :)

          • Doug Langley

            Wait – is that one of them thar double entendre things?

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            ……yes. Let’s go with that. I totally intended it as well. Honest.

          • Ur doin it wrong

          • efoveks

            ??

          • Courser

            Aw, now you’re just bragging ;-)

          • Markuserektus

            I better not touch that line with a ten foot pole…

          • efoveks

            Definite downside there. I take my tools seriously, and while it irritates me that I must usually pay more, the consequences of “righty” scissors does make for some deep appreciation.

          • efoveks

            And butter knives: what’s up with those???

        • Jonny On Maui

          Northpaws. You call them northpaws…

          • kaw143

            Oh, fine. Make ME the Confederate. . .

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            I thought lefties were southpaws?

          • Jonny On Maui

            “fuckin’ rightie” just isn’t polite hence, Northpaw…

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            ooohhhhhh. I thought you meant…never mind. It is after 10 XD

        • SisterArtemis

          so basically, comments weren’t allowed in your house, either?

          • kaw143

            They still aren’t.

            Hoo-boy, the last time I visited, I was just exhausted, and my Ditto-head mother decided to go off on the Queleute, about whom she knew ALL ABOUT because Twilight and wingnut websites, for being lazy with all of that land the government just gave them and . . . . I just stopped her. I live in Washington. The Res is shitty. ALL of the Reses are shitty. THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT! Here, you can have this *makes urpy face while saying it* Good luck, and sorry about the genocide!

            Frankly, had I sold tickets, it would have made a fortune.

  • Flodurn

    Folks, your amazing President was just in Canada and our Parliament gave him at least 15 standing ovations during his speech and chanted “Four More Years” at the end of it. Canadians adore him and will miss him very much!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHRkLmTkj6k

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      You canadians are cute :*
      Also, you will be hosting the lot of us in the event of a President Trump. You know that, right? I mean some people said that with GW, but this time….it is very much more probably likely.

      • Pickwicknext

        Aw thanks Jen. We think you’re cute too

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Keep that thought in mind the 3rd week I am on your couch. We could start a LolMurrican meme thing “We is in your Canada, eating your poutine”

          • Pickwicknext

            If you are willing to clean up after both yourself and me, you can stay forever. I hate cleaning

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            I had already made my Toronto “just in case” reservations with a friend, but now a group of us are musing about an inn for sale in British Columbia. Yes, we think about these things during the pending Trumpocalypse.

          • Pickwicknext

            Can TJ and I get in on that? He’s all worried about living in a “city” in Ontario…

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            LOL We already have 7 people plus assorted spouses. [Collect them all!] I’m probably going to end up in the equivalent of a potting shed as it is…in our fantasy-life inn. It wasn’t my idea, but I think it’s a good one, if you can round up enough like-minded people. Why move to Canada alone when you can bring friends?

          • Pickwicknext

            Oh FSM! You’re Lorelai Gilmore!

          • CogitoErgoBibo

            OMG if only! And I’d absolutely want Michel at the front desk (even though we’d all be tenants in a non-working inn). It would be worth it to make bitchy small talk with him every day.

          • Beulah

            I have two tents. And a large assortment of camping gear.

          • TheGrandWaz00

            Can I just pay half the bills and hire a maid to come in a couple times a week?

          • kaw143

            HANDS OFF THIS ONE, PICKWICK! THIS ONE IS MINE!

          • Pickwicknext

            I still like my TJ quite a bit. He has been a very good find

          • berkeleyfarm

            My Canadian ex lived in Montreal. He hated that stuff.

            It’s become trendy here and I am down for good gravy with french fries. We even have a gen-you-wine Canadian poutine shop here in town! Open late and popular with the students.

        • Apple Scruff

          Do you like us, or do you LIKE US like us? Check the box: YES or NO.

          • Pickwicknext

            42

      • Lamashtar

        Pah. I’m gonna use my former RINO and gun lover status to fight in the resistance.

      • Amy!

        I don’t wanna move to Canada, Jen! I’ve been there. It’s cold. Even in August, when the sun goes down, it gets cold. Brrrrr.

        But I thought of a way! I can secede! From North Carolina, which would also be from the United States, right? And petition for status as a territory of Canadia. It’s warmer here; they can send people down here to take warm vacations, and also be border and customs inspectors. I have like four extra futons in three different rooms and stuff. Oh, but they need to bring maple syrup with them, mind. I can make waffles every Sunday.

        Win all the way around, right?

      • Flodurn

        We welcome you with open arms! We share a continent so you’re practically kin, anyway!

    • The Wanderer

      I can’t resist any further. I thought I could, but I can’t.

      I found this rather humorous story that showcases the deep schism that lurks within the heart of every Canadian. Hope you like it.

      http://www.fimfiction.net/story/336359/princess-luna-inherits-canada

  • TheGrandWaz00
    • kaw143

      I shudder to think what your genitalia are doing to inspire such a response in your cat.

  • Jukesgrrl

    I was so happy to see the Canadian Parliament greet our president last week with a standing ovation and a sustained cheer of “four more years.” I think he was pleased, too. Thanks to them for being far more generous than our own Congress.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      “YOU LIE!!11!” Like that one?

      • Jukesgrrl

        EXACTLY what I was thinking of!

  • kaw143

    Oh, dear.

    Hey, you guys! (Have you noticed I’m always saying that? I’ve only just realized it’s a reference.)

    It’s been a particularly rough week. Work was hell, and though some good stuff did happen there, the bad FAR outweighed it and I am SO GLAD to be an American, today, not because of patriotism, but because since I don’t have to work tomorrow, that means I won’t have to work on Monday, either, and I get two days off. YAY!

    Returning home, however, I have learned that a good friend has died, and it is hitting me harder than I thought it would. Long illness, knew it would happen sooner or later.

    We hadn’t seen each other in a couple of years. Not because there always seemed like there would be more time, but because meeting and interacting physically became awkward, at some point, for some reason. Possibly because his partner didn’t care for me (I don’t know this to be true), or possibly because his becoming more frail was difficult for him, or maybe for some other reason. Though I suspect because of that middle one. Maybe because that makes me feel a little better.

    Anyway, using Wonkette as a confessional, here: I miss him. And when I miss him, I miss them. All of them. And that doesn’t make me so happy.

    Strangely, having been a goth somewhere in the distant past, deliberately sad stuff helps me more than happy stuff. So, remember Echo and the Bunnymen? They are still a thing, and this is what is gracing the record player tonight:

    https://youtu.be/bTbK9zGlCic

    • Jonny On Maui

      My heart goes out to you kaw.

    • Good_Gawd_Yall

      I’m so sorry. I lost my dad last year. This is what I thought of when it got tough: “When you’re going through hell, keep going.” (Winston Churchill)

    • BloviateMe

      That stuff is so,so hard. Seriously, my heart goes out…I’m so sorry.

      https://youtu.be/numCZoBFcv4

    • Andre

      I hate to hear that. May things get on the uptick sooner rather than later.

    • CogitoErgoBibo

      I’m really sorry, Kaw. I’m wishing you lots of comfort food and restful dreams. Be happy for the time you had with your friend. And remember him well.

    • Beulah

      “…deliberately sad stuff helps me more than happy stuff.”

      There’s a reason why those who were suffering the worst indignities in our country sang and listened to the blues. There’s a comfort in knowing that others understand our sorrow. The Allman Brothers “Dreams” was my go-to song as a depressed adolescent. That and Sonny Boy Williamson’s “Help Me”.

      Sorry for your loss.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPeP3M-NqFo

      • berkeleyfarm

        A friend’s husband had fast-moving (stage 4 when they caught it) brain cancer. When she said he’d stopped eating, we all knew it wasn’t long. I had the notorious tearjerkers on the Hamilton soundtrack on repeat (in my car player). I knew it (and other music I was playing) was helping, so I was leaning in.

    • Callyson

      deliberately sad stuff helps me more than happy stuff

      I am sorry for your loss. But if you need deliberately sad stuff. then this will help, as it’s what kept running through my head when I lost my Dad quite unexpectedly:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEtDTEfdea0

    • WomanInAMood

      So sorry to hear that. Death sucks.

    • Juan de Fuca

      Always been at a loss of words for friends going through this but sending positive thoughts and hugs your way.

    • phoenix00

      Condolences

    • berkeleyfarm

      That’s why we sing the blues (as the other commenter noted), and other things like that. I am sorry for your loss.

      “Ain’t no sunshine when he’s gone”

    • Beowoof14

      I am so sorry to hear of your loss. The hardest thing I have found in life is going on when those whom we care for pass on.It’s jarring and numbing, even when you know it’s coming. I find that focusing on the happy memories I have of my time with them helps me through the worst times.

    • cynmac

      Good moody music. Almost saw them in concert once. Aztec Camera opened and Echo played one song. Then Ian McCulloch got drug sick, went off stage and never came back out. That would have been around 1983 or 1984.

    • SayItWithWookies

      So sorry about your friend — the deliberately sad songs are useful — we all need to face mortality, so you may as well face it head-on. I wallow in it sometimes, and I think it’s better than avoiding it, at least for me. And I’d love to have everyone know that whatever I did at the end was more about me, and not about them, but there’s very little time to get all that down. So don’t doubt yourself — it probably was the middle option.

    • jmhm

      Aw. I can still hear Rita Moreno saying that on Electric Company.

      I’m sorry, about your friend and your loss.

    • Zyxomma

      Condolences and hugs.

  • I am excited to vote for Hillary in November. I look forward to our first female president. But I will still be so sad to see President Obama, and his lovely family, leave the White House. Given the option, I’d have been more than happy to let him keep running things for another four years. I don’t really expect to see another president like him in my life.

    My consolation is that I really think the man has earned a freaking break. It’s been a long 8 years, he’s done an awful lot with the mess he inherited in 2008, and he’s done it against a very strong resistance. And gotten nothing even close to the respect and gratitude he deserves for the job. He really deserves to sleep in and play golf without a chorus of Republicans bitching about it. He deserves a break from bimonthly speeches addressing the latest horrific mass shooting. He deserves a break from being blamed for a million things he had nothing to do with. He’s actually still pretty young – he deserves a long, healthy, happy retirement. Or whatever comes next.

    History is going to remember him as one of our greatest presidents. I feel sure of that. We were lucky to have him.

    • OneYieldRegular

      Supreme Court Justice Obama will relax and play golf later.

  • RobKanC

    This is the problem with liberal presidents. Why does he have to read. This is not third grade. Why can’t he just go in guns blazing into all the countries and show them ‘murica.

  • Kerlyssa

    I know one of these. Hates Hillary for the same reason she hates Obama. Tiring.

  • Jonny On Maui

    {sigh} Battlebots on Hulu on the 4th of July weekend. The only thing that would make me more ‘merrican would be drinking a ‘beer’.

    I guess the bong makes me a subversive…

    • cynmac

      American Ninja Warrior is good too.

    • WomanInAMood

      You know, what would make this more ‘merican would be watching the Boston Pops play Sousa. Especially the recordings from the seventies, when I was a kid. My whole family looked forward to the piccolo lady. Sorry, it’s been a bit of a week, and I am getting strangely nostalgic.

      • Jonny On Maui

        Please. Most of last night it was the early 70s for me. You have nothing to apologize for, you did have a week.

        • WomanInAMood

          You really are a very good person. I’m so glad I found this site – so many good people here. The Fourth was always our big family get-together. The parade, the potato salad my Granny made, the music from the bandshell down at Lithia Park that we could hear at Gran’s house. And finally the Great Ceremonial Carving of the Watermelon by Papa. God, I miss those times.

          • Jonny On Maui

            Thank you. I came to be a good person. I had (and needed) lots of help. I try to give back because I owe.

            My 4th growing up was straight out of a early 50s nightmare. Adults drinking hard at block parties trying to ignore the mayhem the children are creating. It was a blast on several levels.

          • WomanInAMood

            What matters is that you became a good person. Even more impressive than being born with fucking wings. You earned it. And those folks that helped you, well bless them.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Both of you are lovely people, and I enjoy reading your comments.

      • The Wanderer
    • Marion in Savannah

      BITE FORCE!!! (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself…)

      • Jonny On Maui

        S’okay. Perfectly understandable…

  • Mavenmaven

    In contrast, does anyone have any idea WTF Ross Douthat is going on about in his latest column? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/opinion/sunday/the-myth-of-cosmopolitanism.html?ref=opinion

    • WomanInAMood

      I made it about half-way through, and then realized that these are precious moments of my life that I’ll never get back. As best I can tell, he is making a “cosmopolitan” word salad. Instead of iceberg, two cucumber slices, three cherry tomatoes and a boatload of ranch dressing, he is making his salad with arugula, hazelnuts, artisanal goat cheese and a boatload of ranch dressing.

      Because who doesn’t love ranch?

      • berkeleyfarm

        Although “wedge salads” (wedge of iceberg, russian dressing) are *quite* trendy out here in hip urban dining establishments and the nostalgic retro-ness would fit Douchehat to a T.

        • cynmac

          That’s so last year. Now it’s chopped salads.

          • jmhm

            Oh, those are last year now too. Now it’s hydroponic microgreens.

          • berkeleyfarm

            Ha, I thought chopped salads were the year before that.

        • WomanInAMood

          I take it you are left coast as well. I hate to admit it, but I am rather fond of iceberg.

          • Zango LeHoonery

            I love iceberg on a sammich, it’s crisp when cool, and tasty. I’d put celery on sammiches if it were more, well, flat. But that’s not going to happen without breaking out the food processor.

          • Marion in Savannah

            For sammiches I prefer romaine hearts. Also crispy, but less watery and more tasty. But a BLT ain’t a BLT without iceberg.

        • Marion in Savannah

          Mr. Marion in Savannah just LURVES those salads — they remind him of his childhood (he’s an even older oldz than I) and they’re tasty.

        • DemmeFatale

          Make sure it’s organic iceberg, though.
          My dad grew up in Fresno, CA. (A very agricultural area.)
          He would never touch it, because he noticed that the pickers would get sick from it every time, and he figured that it must be from the chemicals they used. (But, of course, they may have changed.)
          No environmentalism on his part, just common sense.

          • berkeleyfarm

            Oh absolutely. I grew up in the Big Valley.

    • cynmac

      I think he’s trying to take “white privilege” and extend it into classism, styled as “cosmopolitanism”. He’s trying to create labels for the forces behind Brexit Leave and Trump without saying RACISM and XENOPHOBIA. And that dog won’t hunt.

      • pstockholm

        Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    • cousin itt

      They can’t see that paeans to multicultural openness can sound like
      self-serving cant coming from open-borders Londoners who love Afghan
      restaurants but would never live near an immigrant housing project, or
      American liberals who hail the end of whiteness while doing everything
      possible to keep their kids out of majority-minority schools.

      Q: When is cant not self-serving?
      A: All of the time, Katie. Fuck.

    • cousin itt

      This is what happens when a private high school grad who goes to Harvard joins the NYT and smokes Thomas Friedman’s dick.

      • cynmac

        Actually, the convert to Pentecostal then to Roman Catholic that speaks to weirdness to me. And I think he’s been smoking David Brooks’ peen. They both seem to have a problem acknowledging the decay in the center of the GOP.

        • cousin itt

          Oh, they acknowledge it all right. To me, it’s the rhetorical and political distancing act they play that gets me. To them, it’s as if The Trumpire have infiltrated the Dagobah System and they have not clue one as to how to fight back. Pathetic. Weak.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Driftglass has been pointing out for a while now that it’s never them. It’s always THOSE Republicans over there that brought this shitstorm down on them. Never them. Never the pundits who’ve been feeding the morans red meat for decades. It’s THOSE people, over there…

        • jmhm

          I’m looking forward to seeing if he follows Rod Dreher into the arms of eastern orthodoxy now that Scalia’s dead and the new pope isn’t interested in being a stick to beat the left with.

    • Incoming Ham

      Proof that the fish rots from the head.

    • jmhm

      Shorter Ross Douthat: No, seriously, those guys over there are the spoiled privileged assholes who got us into this mess. Me, I’m an honest son of the soil.

  • Beowoof14

    Thoughtful, calm, reasoned decisions, kind of guy I have enjoyed having as president. Judging by the guy the republicans selected, they appear to more interested in monkey shit fights at the zoo.

  • Lark_in_the_AM

    This is a lovely piece, Becca – thank you for your thoughtful analysis. Yes, Obama has faults – we all do – but for the most part he is an exemplary human being. He loves his wife, his children and his country and genuinely wants to do right by us all. Which is why the shitstorm the wingnuts have been pitching at him for the last eight years is so unjust and uncalled-for.

    Out of all the presidents we’ve had since maybe Jimmy Carter, he has been the most truly decent man, and he fucking doesn’t deserve the treatment he’s been getting. That he has responded to the revolting lies and disrespect thrown at him by the hour with dignity and grace has been an abject lesson to us all in forbearance. I have no doubt that had he been allowed to govern as he should have been (and Shrub hadn’t left him with the Augean stables to clean) he would have been one of the best Presidents we’ve ever had. Let’s hope Hillary has learned from both his successes and his mistakes.

    • James

      I would still rank him as one of the best presidents we’ve had. All the things accomplished under his administration despite historic obstruction for obstruction’s sake (or at least because a certain person was President).

      I think Ms. Shoenkopf’s article is right on the money.

  • James

    So, as Obama Derangement Syndrome segues with a clashing discord into Clinton Derangement Syndrome (the sequel), is there some point at which we can simply call them “deranged” and leave it at that?

    • The Wanderer

      I prefer ‘demented.’

    • jmhm

      It kind of has circled back. The Harvard guy pulled us out of the hole his predecessor, the minerals extraction asshole who broke Wall Street, dropped us into with his laissez-faire policies, corruption and mismanagement. Now an empty suit celebrity who’s the cherished thug protégé of Roy Cohn, godfather of the blacklist, is campaigning on bringing back America First with the orts and leavings of Lee Atwater’s firm. It’s like a horrible Republican ideas of the last century reunion tour.

  • duckshoe

    Kennedy crack about what a great group he’d had to dinner, most intellectual wattage in the White House since Jefferson dined alone. BHO is a good candidate for revision of the count.

  • James

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/sheriff-joe-arpaio-blowing-tax-dollars-to-dress-up-inmates-in-stars-and-stripes-for-holiday-publicity-stunt/#.V3ip57Tk5TE.twitter

    Sheriff Joe dressing up people in the US Flag.

    The latest atrocity in Arpaio’s arsenal is ostensibly a celebration of America’s Independence Day. The more than 8,000 prisoners in the Maricopa County jails will be wearing uniforms adorned with the good-old Stars and Stripes. An official statement from the Sheriff’s office said: “Sheriff Arpaio ordered the new look out of
    respect for our nation’s heritage and with the aspiration of adding the
    respect each wearer will hold for themselves.”

    Arpaio himself said, “The American flag is a symbol of freedom and liberty … My hope is that incarcerated inmates feel a sense of pride and honor when wearing the flag.” According to local media, the sheriff’s department is unwilling to disclose the price of Arpaio’s weird prison fashion show.

    • MarkM

      If The Donald is elected, how long before this asshole is promoted to OberDrumpfenführer in charge of reeducation and resettlement camps?

      • James

        Sheriff Arapaio might be angling for that job already, since he enthusiastically endorsed Mr. Trump.

        • MarkM

          I have no doubt that he is. I know the rules of the comments we aren’t allowed to make forbid wishing harm upon individuals, but it’s so difficult sometimes…

          • James

            Sheriff Joe: May you find your water was secretly bottled in Tijuana.

          • MarkM

            Or Flint, Michigan…

          • James

            New bottled water brand, since the ingredients are proprietary: Aqua d’Frack.

          • The Wanderer

            We must trust in karma.

          • jmhm

            How about: wherever they spend eternity, I hope they’re together.

            Truth to tell, I have a bit of a list for this wish.

    • The Wanderer

      This is the stupidest non-Trump idea I’ve heard since Budweiser (Headache in a Can) decided to name their liquid yeast infection ‘America.’ For starters, how are the flags going to be put on the uniforms?
      Embossing? That takes a shitload of time even with a machine, and costs a lot – and the inmates can pick the threads out to make macramé dreamcatchers and other items.
      Silk screen or iron-on stencil? Those fade over time, and I would love to throw the epithet “Pastel Patriot” in Arpaio’s ugly face.
      He’s got to take money out of his budget to do this shit, so the cost will have to show up somewhere. Where’s he taking it from? Food or health care?

      • Astraea

        Well he already saves a lot by refusing to give the Tent Prison inmates A/C.

        • The Wanderer

          Very true.

          • jmhm

            He’s currently officially in contempt of court on racial profiling and withholding evidence, and it looks like he’s going to have to dismantle his little executive klavern. I guess this is the hail mary where he tries to make it look like they hate him because he’s such a good american.

          • The Wanderer

            Probably, yes. Reinforcing his optics as Gert ‘Murkan.

        • Parchment Scroll

          In fact, the flag bullshit is related. It’s part of his whole “The Troops Have it Worse” argument.

          • The Wanderer

            He’s made that argument for years.

          • Parchment Scroll

            It sickens me that he’s been in a position to make that argument for years.

      • pstockholm

        First amendment issues as well. It’s clearly speech, but Arpaio’s or the county’s, not the inmates’.

        • The Wanderer

          Not to mention the hamster-strangling level of irony in extolling the flag as a symbol of liberty – and plastering it like a NASCAR sponsor’s logo feces on jail inmate uniforms.

          • pstockholm

            Hamsters died so that we could appreciate this irony.

          • The Wanderer

            Yes, they did:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyXy4kDLnSY

            Well, gerbils.

          • jmhm

            And yet I can’t find a single picture of him wearing one, not even on that junior Patton wannabe uniform he’s cobbled together for himself.

          • The Wanderer

            Dear god, that expression on Trump’s face – is there someone out of shot tickling his taint?

          • jmhm

            My mental Trump has a completely featureless lower torso, like Ken. There are mental images which are just not meant to be.

            Also and too I think he must have it in his head that he looks gemütlich with that expression on his face, because he used to be a big tilt and smolder boy.

    • mancityfooty .

      How is this going to mesh with his pink underwear fetish?

      • It will clash.

        BTW I’m glad to see you know there is only one football team in Manchester – the other one is in Salford.

        • mancityfooty .

          Well, yeah. Suburbanites like United and the true city folk like City.
          Honestly, I’m a rugby fan.

          • mancityfooty .

            I’m an American who lived in North Wales for 2 years/

  • Jonny On Maui

    It’s been a contemplative day. Good Night Folks!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnYMSk6HgU4

    • WomanInAMood

      Sleep well!

    • Thatsitfor Theotherwon

      JBC Must Die, one of my favorite albums of all times. Man how time flies.

      • pstockholm

        Think how unsettling that would be if we didn’t have forgetting and selective memory and senility to cushion the blow.
        Not to mention the intense pleasure of sucking the juice out of every second of the present.

        And here’s a fist for JBC.

  • bobbert

    Becca, that’s a well-wrought piece. President Obama is the most personally admirable President we’ve had since President Carter (and this isn’t a competition — they were both equally admirable during my adult lifetime).

    I was happy to vote for him, and I never felt let down. I knew from his first campaign that he was center-center-right in a lot of areas. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by some of his moves toward the left in regards to equal rights.

    And, perhaps the most important thing is he can speak in complete sentences. And paragraphs. After eight years of Ronbo, and another eight of Dubya, this has been blessed relief.

    • katz

      Poor old Jimmy. Whenever the smear attempts on Obama’s legacy seem really bad, I think about what happened to Carter.

      Also a good cautionary tale about how a president’s admirable legacy can be completely obliterated by an amoral opposition.

      • James

        I voted for President Carter in 1980, the first time I was eligible to vote (from an aircraft carrier in the Med).

        I then got to go back to the Med after the Beirut bombings of the US Marines, and French and British forces, to help with the evacuation under President Reagan (the guy who claimed we didn’t run from terrorists).

        • Sardonicuss

          That was the birth of Osama (the america hating version). He told everyone, if they will cut and run from Beirut, we can hit them anywhere. Just bloody their noses and they will collapse.

      • rachelmap

        “…a president’s admirable legacy can be completely obliterated by an amoral opposition.”

        From both outside and inside his party. -_-

  • freakishlystrong

    Thank you for this, Rebecca. It was nice to have a handsome and dignified POTUS, in the ugly, screeching faces of the teatards. Jesus, they fucked with him as he was taking the oath, remember? I don’t for a minute think John Roberts fucked that up by mistake. They were awful to the Clintons, but they were truly ugly to this President and his supporters. I don’t know why, the majority of us, have to put up with it.

    • jmhm

      Totally a perspective issue, I think. I’m still a little pissed at Obama and Biden for rolling over on the Roberts and Alito nominations, but from the way Roberts and Alito are still sulking you’d think Obama ran over their dog. Given Roberts’ zeal for letting any mouthbreather with a badge decide who votes and Alito’s history of racism as an extracurricular activity I’m going to guess that heritage enthusiasm original intent is a bit of an issue for them.

    • The Wanderer

      I was so pissed off at Johnny Grins. “You had ONE job . . . “

  • That picture makes it look like he is releasing a Dragonball into the world

    OT – have just changed my avatar because of This campaign

    • The Wanderer

      Well, he IS from Hawaii – could he be practicing the Kamehameha Wave?

  • bubbuhh

    If U doin Cleveland for the Froth, make sure U packin! Buy a “Make America Native Again” hat. Show Trunip and his jolly band of blubber barons, child rapists and ammosekshulls how much TheWiseLatins and TheInduns and TheAmeurokens luvs him.

    Hat and companion shirts available at Southwestern artist Victoria Bowen’s website ef you ken not how to make one on your own.
    http://bowencreative.co/product/make-america-native/
    They a nice anarchist color combo!

    Tewa Women United’s A’Gin Program: Healthy Sexuality & Body Sovereignty Project been rockin the hats 4while

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  • A Bashful Nobody

    We loves the article preciousss we does!

  • Zango LeHoonery

    Pretty sure Bamz freebases his blow, like a gentleman. And only backhands his hoes (ho’s?!) as said gentleman.

    Pure class, this guy.

    As far as TPP goes, damned if you do….

  • jmhm

    Have a sunrise.

    • The Wanderer

      Ah, very nice!

  • Jamsie

    I am so proud of our POTUS.

  • jmhm

    OK, so, this is awesome. Trump(/Manafort) has hired lady-against-women Kellyanne Conway, the consultant who told Todd Akin this about his little “legitimate rape” problem:

    I believe that the establishment will have to look at this race and they
    will have to hold their nose because the first days—and I’ve expressed
    this to Todd as my client for a while now, I’ve expressed it to him
    directly—the first day or two where it was like the Waco with David
    Koresh situation where they’re trying to smoke him out with the SWAT
    teams and the helicopters and the bad Nancy Sinatra records. Then here
    comes day two and you realize the guy’s not coming out of the bunker.
    Listen, Todd has shown his principle to the voters.

    Kellyanne is going to explain to Trump how to get chicks to drink the kool aid, just like Jonestown.

    • Parchment Scroll

      Wait, so… David Koresh was a man of principle?

      • Tansy Geek

        Not sensible or relatively good principles, but principles.

      • The Wanderer

        Wacko Jesus did have an ethos.

      • jmhm

        Hey, hiding behind the women and children when the feds start shooting back is a time-honored wingnut principle.

    • bubbuhh

      Akin…the guy who believes in Secret Vagina Rape Powers? I guess you wanted to link to something like this?
      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/28/akin-consultant-compares-him-to-cult-leader/

      • jmhm

        Oh, dear, I borked my link (which was to Right Wing Watch). Thanks for letting me know. I fixed it.

        • bubbuhh

          It’s early ;)

          • jmhm

            You know, it really is.

      • HazooToo

        Wait, what was that first part, what what th

        wat

      • mancityfooty .

        I was 18 in ’92. I counted down the days of the standoff on a calendar. I also liked Perot. I was young, dumb, and full of sh*t.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Didn’t Todd lose that election?

      • The Wanderer

        I think so, but these people are like cockroaches.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Cockroaches will someday rule the planet. I prefer to think of them as those little tiny ants that get into everything. You squish and you spray and they keep coming.But will never rule the planet.

      • jmhm

        Yeah, McCaskill kicked his ass. But he did leave us with this thing of beauty:

        When asked point-blank whether rape victims should be allowed to have abortions if they get pregnant, Akin turned it around. “Should the child conceived in rape have the same right to live as a child conceived in love?” he said. “I had a number of people in my campaign that were children… who were conceived in rape.” That assertion was not immediately verifiable.

        Chuck Todd (rightly) pointed out that if Akin had staffers who were conceived from rape, then wouldn’t that disprove his theory that women can “shut that whole thing down?” Yes, according to logic, but all Akin had to say was: “I believe that little children are special.”

        Kellyanne, on the other hand, says that the reason women aren’t treated with respect is that they’re not feminine enough.

        • Jen_Baker_VA

          Too much rage building. Ok so, we’re not feminine enough and yet if we wear something girly (aka, a skirt or dress) we are asking for it.
          Fucking tough being a chick, amiright?
          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/62/03/a6/6203a66f0d168b7c67b6d00a2f8828f8.jpg

          • jmhm

            Coming from her I take it roughly as seriously as I do anything coming from an independently wealthy post-feminist crusader for women knowing their place who works full time while someone else raises her kids.

  • Astraea

    Awesome story:
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/103-year-old-woman-i-must-live-to-vote-for-hillary-because-trump-would-be-a-national-disaster/

    An Iowa woman, born seven years before women were given the vote, says she plans to stick around long enough to vote for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, adding a Donald Trump presidency would be a disaster.

    In an interview with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour, 103-year-old Ruline Steininger spoke about campaigning for Clinton during the Iowa caucuses saying she never thought she’d live to see a woman president in her lifetime.

    • The Wanderer

      Hooray for her!

      • mancityfooty .

        Reminds me of my dad’s mom. She didn’t have her high school diploma, but she had college credits. And after her mom died young and her preacher dad drank himself to death, she put her brother through seminary school. Then she met her husband who had traded in a horse on a used car in the ’30s.

        • Serai 1

          My grandma would have loved this election. She was a feminist way back in the 20’s – in ARGENTINA. One of the most macho countries on earth.

    • Dutchman

      As another oldz, just not as oldz as this nice lady, I’m with her and Hillary. But as I’ve stated previously and also too, I will vote for the Dem. nominee and knew that long ago. Ms. Dutchman is not a giant fan of my pragmatism with respect to this election because her level of disgust with the entire process has eroded her faith in our system.

      As I was holding forth for the younger generation at a drinky thing yesterday I’m really hoping that with a relatively limited shelf life here on this mortal coil that they please just don’t fuck it up too badly, too quickly. You other oldz know how much the younger generation love to hang around with ol’ farts holding forth.

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        When I was a young I loved hanging with the oldz. For one, they usually were buying, and then too there is all the good stories they can tell.
        Heck I married an almost oldz (then, actual oldz now but since I am now almost an oldz it is all good). In my defense, he is really cute and loves going down.

  • The Wanderer

    Ah, a fine sleepy Sunday. Time for a little music to fire the blood like pepper:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZbMjuM3dI

    • WeaselPoo

      Very pretty, but I fail to see how this helps me decide which area rug is right for me.

      • Astraea

        I think it’s recommending the most ostentatious one you can find.

        • mancityfooty .

          As long as it ties the room together.

        • WeaselPoo

          Slight problem; I don’t think Donald Trump wants to part with it.

      • Look at Con-all Trump’s toupe weave hare hair (snigger) and don’t get a rug anything like that.

  • mancityfooty .

    Update on the rain in Lawrence, KS (since I know everyone is so worried).
    A weather website says just 1.64″ of rain yesterday. So far, very short of the possibly 4″ and 6″ locally we were warned about.
    But the day isn’t over yet. Flood warnings persist until 7pm, central time.
    At least it’s cut down on the amount of fireworks being shot off and the pups are not as stressed as they were last year.
    The yard as of this time:

    • mancityfooty .

      The bare patch is because Daisy (my avatar) can’t go outside without playing ball. Consequently, she has the best physical fitness of the household.

      • Dogs can be funny about their Dog Patch. I’ve had various dogs in various sized backyards over the years and they always create their elaborate dog run bare patches. Even when the back yard was acres and acres the dogs ALWAYS used their established paths to move from one place to another.

        • mancityfooty .

          She has a path, and, no matter where that ball goes, she takes the same path back to the porch.

          • mancityfooty .

            as my better half says,”throw it again, human”

    • Serai 1

      I am jealous. We were promised rain and got zilch – all winter long. Can’t you send some of that over here? We’re THIRSTY GODDAMMIT.

  • Mary Sandoras

    This is priceless. Trump bragging about his yuuuge crowd of <100 people at his Colorado campaign speech.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-cant-believe-the-size-of-colorado-crowd-and-neither-will-you/

    • The Wanderer

      (chortles) Could people finally be wising up to The Yam?

    • HazooToo

      To be fair, he can only count to ten, so any number larger than that is yuuuge.

    • jmhm

      That is some Ted Cruz-in-the-Bronx-level enthusiasm there.

    • WeaselPoo

      That’s about 1/2 the local turnout for my ‘junior high’ school play back in 1976 (The student population was 400, the play ran 4 performances during which over 200 locals– who had no kids of their own in our school–attended ).

      Sad! Weak!

    • Sardonicuss
      • The Wanderer

        Right now it’s media speculation, courtesy of that bilious parasite Chuck Todd. However, I see two outcomes:
        1. Charges are filed – Trump starts crowning himself King.
        2. Charges are not filed – every single Trump and Sanders supporters start screeching that Big Bill ‘fixed’ things.

        • Sardonicuss

          They know its the last nail to hang their hat on. They won’t let it go until she is out of office – around 2025?

          • The Wanderer

            Hopefully 2025.

          • mancityfooty .

            no one said there would be maths

    • B’wahahahahah

  • Today’s our big Independence’s Day Concert! This year we have a group of WWII vets attending, a world premiere of a new work, Sousa and FIllmore marches, Carmen Dragon’s arrangement of America the Beautiful, and lots very pretty and brave men and women from various branches of the military.

    It’s always packed and goes on for hours. There’s parking in the back and a contest where the winning audience member gets to conduct The Star and Stripes Forever. And our line of piccolo players represent various races, genders, and whatnots.

    How Americanny can you get?

    • The Wanderer

      Sounds like great fun!

      • It always is. The audience is always great. They wave little flags, sing along when they recognize a tune, clap out of rhythm, stomp their feet, cheer and whistle, and cry openly at the unabashedly sentimental bits.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      We’re likely getting all rained out so we blew up our stuff last night. It was good. Campfire, marshmallows, chatting about poltics and the future of the country as they’d like to see it with the spawn, lil history thrown in for fun…..^.^ Course now it is off to the grocery

  • cheetojeebus

    OT made the mistake of reading some of the comments on the ABC 13 story about the dr getting shot outside his mosque in Houston. Now i need to go hug some kittahs.

    • Jen_Baker_VA
      • Jen_Baker_VA
        • Jen_Baker_VA
          • Jen_Baker_VA
          • 451 Byrnes

            You are the hero we need…

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            aw blush. I just like kitties. And embroidery.
            Plus I made the mistake of reading the comments where they allow comments once :shudder:

          • 451 Byrnes

            Sometimes, too much is too much.
            http://i.imgur.com/JwnGXHM.gif

          • bubbuhh

            Shewhocontrolsherownvagina ordered that one.

            http://badasscrossstitch.com/

          • bubbuhh

            also

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Thank you!! I don’t cross-stitch but I do quilt and I’m thinking of making a quilt for her anti-gun auction….had never heard of this site but wow!

          • mancityfooty .

            cross stitch is easy. I learned it in the 3rd grade. I did an old english “G” for my teacher, Mrs. Garton.

          • bubbuhh

            :) Don’t do that stuff meself; but, I’ve noticed that a little violent crossstitchery eases the emotions of the one who does if she’s had a tough day.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Yeah, I have a coloring book for that. It’s called “Calm the Fuck Down.” All the pages are subversive and wondrous!

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            OMG I LOVE THIS SITE. Combining real issues and embroidery? Thank you <3

          • Marion in Savannah

            Damn — I haven’t stitched in years (arthritis in the hands) but that site has inspired me to go out to the garage and dig out the Aida cloth and floss. Thanks!

          • bubbuhh

            Good luck ;)

            from the Arthritus Foundation

            Cross-Stitch Like a Pro

            Trick 1: Try leather- or rubber- fingertip thimbles. You’ll increase traction without the need to tightly pinch the needle.

            Trick 2: Work on a project with a broader linen weave. It will reduce strain from fine-finger work.

            Trick 3: Try embroidery hoops with clamps. You can attach them to a
            table or the arm of a chair and loosen your grip – and tension – on the
            hoop itself.

          • Marion in Savannah

            Tx! I tried the hoop clamped to a floor stand, and that made me crazy. The rubber fingertips sound like they’d be a great help, though. I don’t think I’d attempt anything smaller than 12 count now, for eyestrain as well as hand issues.

          • mancityfooty .

            It’s been years since I did cross stitch, but now I want to make this.

          • Serai 1

            Except here, of course.

      • Sardonicuss

        Hah. My cat was endlessly fascinated with milk rings. The ones that come off a gallon jug.
        When I would go to the fridge, he would come and stare at me until I threw one down.
        I moved a cabinet once and found like 100 of them he was storing. I figure they must be some kind of currency in cat world.

        • Astraea

          I had a cat who was the same! I haven’t bought gallon milk jugs in ages so I don’t know how my current cats would respond.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            We call them “Things” here. And I tell Katja, go get thing and she will run about searching for them. And we play fling thing and chase thing and fetch thing.

          • Astraea

            awwwwwww

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            her idea of fetch is to go get it and bring it back about….2 or 3 feet away from me. And then eye me like “you’re turn”

          • Sardonicuss

            Where I live they have Sonic. The burgers come in these paper / aluminum wrappers. I would roll them into a ball, toss them, and my cat would fetch them like a dog.
            He would bring it back and drop it by my foot, and if I didn’t throw it quickly enough, he would bite me.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            HA! My Loki used to do that with rolled up socks. I was always missing socks. When I had to rehome him a long time back (he attacked my baby- pretty sure he was DONE with kids after the first so the poor second got claw marks down the lil face and Loki went to live with a nice old lady who had lost her husband and got spoiled as is proper) the lady told me he was forever stealing her socks XD

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          I had a cat like that. She liked those better than the store-bought toys. Of course.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            bwahahaha yeah they sort of look at the storebought things and are all…great, but can I have the box? Thanks!

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Like little kids, actually. :)

          • Zyxomma

            The only store-bought toys I’ve ever seen a cat enjoy were bouncing balls that weren’t globes; they had angles so they bounced every which way. I think they were made out of silicone. And, of course, any toy containing catnip.

        • Land Shark

          two words: pipe cleaners.

      • Serai 1

        I’m constantly finding my hair ties on the floor. Frodo thinks I buy them for him.

    • mancityfooty .

      big kitteh and his girlfriend cuddling on the couch

      • mancityfooty .

        big kitteh because he is a lean 15-17 pounds

        • Good_Gawd_Yall

          I had an 18-pounder who was twice the size of my dachshund, but the dog didn’t know it. The cat would sit on the other side of the gate and calmly watch the doxie go bananas trying to get to him. (The dachshund obviously thought Henry was a badger!)

      • Shoto

        Good Svelte Kitteh!

  • Sardonicuss

    Some light patriotic tuneage.
    https://youtu.be/OgpnlLz7WR0

    • WeaselPoo

      A fave of mine. Thanks

      • Sardonicuss

        When I was a kid, Arron Copeland actually toured! My parents drug me to it, first live symphony..blew my mind.
        Then, grew up and saw ELP do it. Love both versions.

        • Envy!

          Nobody does ‘Americana’ like Copland – while all the time being Jewish, a touch Communistic, and Teh Gay!

          Here’s his A Lincoln Portrait narrated by Katharine Hepburn. Although somewhat panned when released there’s a lot of folks who prefer her emotional reading over the usual stentorian interpretation most give.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOWkI9CU_jw

          • Sardonicuss

            I like that. All his work sounds like the background to a John Ford movie.
            Really hadn’t thought about it in years, but touring a full symphony was / is kind of a rarity. Fanfare was the centerpiece and I think the live version was like 25 minutes long?. He really wanted to bring it to the people out in flyover country. Pretty amazing.

          • Sad to think for most of the kids in the US nowadays the only experience available of hearing a ‘live orchestra’ is the synthesizer playing along with the touring company of Disney’s The Aristocats: The Musical!.

          • Shoto

            Fanfare was incorporated into the fourth movement of Copland’s third symphony. It’s a great, iconic work.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._3_(Copland)

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      This one is all patriotic ^.^ Saw a bunch of conservatives singing along once. They don’t know.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM

      • mancityfooty .

        Much like how “Born in the USA” somehow their favorite song.

        • Ghenghis McCann

          But didn’t some RWNJs decide that the album cover actually showed Springsteen pissing on the flag? (Presumably after someone explained the lyrics of the song to them.)

          • mancityfooty .

            I think they recognised that the cap in his back pocket meant he wanted to piss on someone/get pissed on. Much like their wide stance, they know those secret signs.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            Yes. they seem to know all about those secret signs. I would never speculate why, but…..

          • Zyxomma

            Maybe they saw Cruising.

      • The Wanderer

        They never know. It’s like when they sing ‘Born in the USA’ with no idea what the lyrics actually mean.

        • mancityfooty .

          stop reading my mind!!11!!1

          • The Wanderer

            I was not reading your mind. Mine’s too much fun to go poking about in others’.

          • mancityfooty .

            I guess “Born in the USA” is the go to answer as to how out of touch Republicans are.

          • Ghenghis McCann

            Soon, thanks to modern technology you might be able to let people read your mind and charge them for it. While you pay a royalty to Google.

        • 451 Byrnes

          They think this is a love song…
          https://youtu.be/8jt5XdnHKcQ

        • Apple Scruff

          I don’t think Michelle Bachmann had ever listened to ‘American Girl’ before playing it at her rallies, either.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Heh remember when Tom Petty asked them to stop using that song and went all “have you even listened to it?”

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            “But – but – but – it says AMERICAN!!! It’s patriotic!”
            -Bachman et al

          • Apple Scruff

            It’s like you’re not a Real Republican® until a musician tells you to stop using their music. The Stones recently told Trump to stop using ‘Start Me Up’.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Given the tenor of Trumplethinskin’s campaign, their music should be either “Dixie” or “Camptown Races”.

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            Bet my money on a bobtailed nag, somebody bet on the bay.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            De long-tail filly an’ de big black hoss, do-dah, do-dah
            Dey fly de track an’ dey boff come across
            All the do-dah day
            Nope, nope, nothin’ racist here!

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            HARDLY. Though to be honest, I am sort of torn on the songs that southern blacks used to sing themselves. Many of them were more a yearning though by today’s comparison they make you flinch

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Agreed – but Step-n-Fetchit and antics like that turn my stomach.

          • Kiri the Unicorn

            We are legally required to post this:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7QF32mxftE

          • Jen_Baker_VA

            You’re not a real republican unless you ignore utterly intellectual property rights and shamelessly use whatever you want no matter what, and then bitch if someone calls you on it.

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            IOKIYAR

      • Sardonicuss

        They never seem to read lyrics.

        • Shoto

          Words are hard…

          • Good_Gawd_Yall

            Is our politicians learning?

          • Shoto