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Shortly after the president concluded his final State of the Union, Breitbart — the internet’s shrieking, shit-throwing chimpanzee colony — decided to “fact-check” the speech. It went as badly as you’d expect.

Because we really love rubbing salt in the wounds of human beings as worthless as Breitbartians, particularly Joel Pollak, the writer of this shit piece, let’s fact-check the fact-checks.

1. “[W]e’ve done all this while cutting our deficits by almost three-quarters.” This is pure fiction. Obama has doubled the national debt, and it’s not because he cut the deficit. Rather, he spent staggering amounts of money in his first months in office–which he assigns, dishonestly, to the previous fiscal year, under George W. Bush. He “cut” (i.e. spent more gradually) from that spending, but only under protest, after Republicans took the House in 2010.

(Update: It is true that Obama’s 2015 budget deficit was about 25% of his 2010 deficit. But he referred to “deficits,” plural. Until last year, all of Obama’s deficits were worse than all of Bush’s deficits except for the last two.)

“Nuh-uh, he used an ‘s,’ this counts as a lie, WE TOTALLY GOT HIM!” Good try, Pollak, but it doesn’t count when even you have to admit your lead item on a list of Obama’s lies only works on a technicality.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: A rake, because sometimes you gotta go with the classics.

2. “Anyone claiming that America’s economy is in decline is peddling fiction.” With that line, Obama took a shot at his would-be Democratic successors, as well as his Republican critics. But the truth is that despite the slow recovery–the slowest since World War II–labor force participation is the lowest it has been in decades. Wages are stagnant, household incomes still have not recovered from the recession, and young people see a bleak future.

Sorry, we blacked out for a minute there from pure, blinding rage. Republican complaints about stagnant wages and income inequality tend to have that effect. Also, “young people see a bleak future”? Young people are propping up the artisanal toast industry and selfie sticks; who gives a shit about their terrible opinions?

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: A tractor. Just ram a John Deere right up there.

3. “That’s what the Affordable Care Act is all about. It’s about filling the gaps in employer-based care so that when we lose a job, or go back to school, or start that new business, we’ll still have coverage.” That is a cruel joke, given that Obamacare canceled insurance coverage for millions of Americans who did not change jobs. It also raised deductibles and premiums so high that many insurance companies are leaving the Obama exchanges totally.

Part A: Nope. The ACA caused millions of people to have to change plans from crappy ones that didn’t cover anything to better plans that do. It didn’t deny them coverage. Which you know full well.

Part B: Yeah, health care costs are still WAY lower than they were pre-ACA, so big old nope.

Hey, you know what wouldn’t have either of these problems? A single-payer socialized health care system, the sort that every other first-world country has. We bet you’re totally in favor of that system, right?!

Also, we fixed your copy; you forgot a space between the quote and your hyperventilating bullshit, you incompetent, disingenuous cock.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: An entire threshing machine.

4. “Food Stamp recipients didn’t cause the financial crisis; recklessness on Wall Street did.” Actually, food stamp recipients, metaphorically speaking, were indirectly responsible–as well as Wall Street sharks. Obama leaves out the government’s role, under the Community Reinvestment Act, in pushing mortgages on people who could not afford them, and in backing the derivatives based on those mortgages that ultimately burst the whole bubble.

Yeah, about that claim that Big Government is what caused the housing bubble to burst and the subsequent economic collapse? It’s a made-up fantasy designed to shield evil rich motherfuckers from culpability in causing the recession.

It’s also pretty funny to watch a Breitbart writer tiptoe up to the line of blaming poor people for the country’s economic problems. Wait, was “funny” the word? No, sorry, “infuriating.” That’s the one.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: A postholer, because it looks like it would hurt.

5. “We’ve protected an open internet…”. Obama’s policy of Net Neutrality has turned Internet service providers into public utilities under an ancient regulatory regime. The result has been a sharp decline in broadband investment and a much less free and open system. In addition, the Obama administration is rushing to shift control of ICANN to the international community, which will ensure that the Internet is less free, and subject to overseas censorship.

Obama’s talking about killing the Stop Online Piracy Act, you fucking choad. Remember? The legislation proposed and supported entirely by people who still think the internet is a series of tubes and opposed by virtually any organization that didn’t directly stand to profit from it? Christ, even Breitbart idiots have to be opposed to a piece of legislation that could’ve effectively killed the internet.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: A sprinkler system, because of the series of tubes.

6. “Seven years ago, we made the single biggest investment in clean energy in our history. Here are the results.” It is laughable that Obama would claim his failed clean energy spending–think Solyndra–led to the fracking-fed energy boom we have enjoyed for the past several years, especially when the administration did all it could to stop oil and gas development. He also nixed the Keystone pipeline and started a plan to kill coal plants.

“SOLYNDRA SOLYNDRA SOLYNDRA, MAYBE IF WE KEEP SHOUTING ABOUT IT, ANYONE WILL CARE.” Also: Obama’s clean energy initiatives have worked, so yeah, no again. And fuck coal.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: Anything carbon-neutral.

7. “No nation dares to attack us or our allies because they know that’s the path to ruin.” Of all the lies in Obama’s speech, this was undoubtedly the worst, coming hours after Iran seized two U.S. Navy boats and ten sailors. Obama did not even mention those Americans in captivity at any point in his speech, declining the chance to reassure the nation that they would come home safely. It is an omission that will define this address in history.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can go fuck himself: A cattle prod, because that image is both hilarious and embarrassing for him, just like his “fact-checking.”

8. “As someone who begins every day with an intelligence briefing, I know this is a dangerous time.” Obama does not attend most of his daily intelligence briefings, preferring instead to read intelligence reports–so he claims–on his iPad, a stark contrast to the attentive approach of his predecessor. Late last year, even as Obama claimed that there was little risk from attack, radical Islamic terrorists carried out brutal attacks in Paris and in San Bernardino.

Technically true but intentionally misleading. “So he claims” is enjoyable, because now we’re imagining reporters from Breitbart cracking the case with magnifying glasses like Harriet the Spy. We also like the paean to the worst president in modern U.S. history, the guy who did not actually keep us so safe on 9/11 in the first place. If that statement seems unfair to you, it’s a hell of a lot less unfair than blaming Obama for Paris and San Bernardino. Hell, since the Iraq War was largely responsible for the rise of ISIS, Paris and San Bernardino are way more Bush’s fault than Obama’s.

Anyway, we’re sure Bush didn’t miss any of his daily briefings, except for during his vacation time, which accounted for over a year and a half of his presidency. Aww, but getting the U.S. mired in multiple international quagmires while setting the working class’s money on fire was so hard, you guys! Poor little feller deserved a break every once in an always.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can go fuck himself: A shovel.

9. “We are training, arming, and supporting forces who are steadily reclaiming territory in Iraq and Syria [from Islamic State].” The Obama administration’s attempt to train and arm Syrian rebels has been a disaster. Belatedly, the administration has helped Kurdish peshmerga forces, and the Iraqi military has made gains lately, but Obama has not made a serious effort to defeat the Islamic State, and is even giving up on regime change in Syria.

Another one where Pollak accuses the president of lying, then immediately says “well, actually this is true.” In this case, the retaking of Ramadi sounds a lot like “steadily reclaiming” territory to us.

Pollak keeps using that word, “lying.” We do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can go fuck himself: A manure spreader, for obvious reasons.

10. “Fifty years of isolating Cuba had failed to promote democracy, setting us back in Latin America.” And a year of appeasement has not promoted democracy, either. The Castros remain firmly in power, and we are not helping the opposition. Worse, the Cuban regime continues to arrest thousands of political dissidents, to cozy up to enemies like Iran and North Korea, and to carry out provocative acts–such as stealing a U.S. Hellfire missile.

Obama: “50 years of this strategy didn’t work.”

Pollak: “OH YEAH WELL ONE YEAR OF YOUR STRATEGY DIDN’T WORK EITHER, WE WIN TIMES INFINITY.”

Meanwhile, the Hellfire missile thing did actually happen — except it was a dummy missile containing no explosives, and there’s currently no concrete evidence it was even stolen; it appears to have been shipped to Cuba by accident. Moreover, worries about Cuba selling it to our enemies are pretty fucking silly considering ISIS currently has $700 million worth of working Hellfire missiles and can’t fire them, so they’re probably having an ordnance clearance sale with foreign governments right now.

Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: A potato spinner, because much like that implement, what the fuck even is this argument?

The irony of all this? There actually were some misleading statements (although nothing that constitutes an outright lie) in the State of the Union. It’s delicious, if entirely unsurprising, that Pollak managed to miss all of them.

Man, this has to be embarrassing for the idiots at Breitbart. They should really think about deleting their account before Twitter unverifies it.

[Breitbart/ WaPo]

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  • MsAnthropesMr

    Those poor, poor farm implements.

    • nothingisamiss

      No farm implement deserves this asshole.

    • weejee

      But Breitfart writers are usually plowed.

  • Callyson

    Jesus, this is too easy and I’ve only read the first point:

    [W]e’ve done all this while cutting our deficits by almost three-quarters.” This is pure fiction. Obama has doubled the national debt

    Debt, deficit, what’s the difference?

    It is true that Obama’s 2015 budget deficit was about 25% of his 2010 deficit. But he referred to “deficits,” plural. Until last year, all of Obama’s deficits were worse than all of Bush’s deficits except for the last two.

    Two is not a plural sum now? Thanks for the update!

    /FFS

  • MsAnthropesMr

    I saw gas at $1.49 yesterday.

    Meaning, literally, in constant dollar terms, that gas is as cheap as it has EVER been. EVER. Since it has been used as a auto fuel. (barring some regional differences)

    At the end of Bush’s term it was almost the highest it’s ever been.

    I do not think that this is a good thing. But I know that the Joe W. Public, who drives a Canyonero probably does.

    Unemployment is a 5% – people have more money to spend.

    The stock market is in much better shape – if you’re rich, you’re richer.

    It boils down to this – the man was black – and the GOP won’t be happy until the country is a smoking Somalia type wreck.

    • Ryan Denniston

      THANKS OBAMA!!!

    • OneYieldRegular

      That might have been my favorite moment of the whole SOTU, when Barry gave that long pregnant pause after referring to gas under $2 a gallon just so that everyone in the chamber had time to remember Michele Bachmann and giggle.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      I know, it’s crazy how cheap gas is! My youngest daughter is turning 16 and I’m thinking about getting her a big cheap safe old Lincoln Towncar, because why the hell not?

      • calliecallie

        I used my Kroger points when I bought gas before the holidays and actually paid 72 cents per gallon. That was the price of gas around the time I started driving.
        What I find even more fun is that the youngsters I know who started driving in the past few years and never knew anything but $3.00+ per gallon gas are so astounded and delighted by the new low prices.

        • Vegan and Tiara

          These prices won’t last, because if there’s one thing Americans love to do when gas prices are low, it’s go out and buy a Suburban.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      Fox News when Dumbya invaded Iraq: “we’ll get forty cents a gallon gas out of this war!!!! Yeehaw!
      Fox News when Obama is president: “gas at $1.60 a gallon is a national nightmare that is hurting business.”

  • Mavenmaven

    Solyndra, that city in Benghazi where the IRS killed 4 AMERICANS!!!

  • elviouslyqueer

    I’m not at all suggesting that Joel Pollak should fall dick first into a Rotato Express, but y’know, sometimes accidents just happen.

    • weejee

      Well he is a clean-cut Jewish boy, so he has experience with this.

  • Lizzietish81
  • Tallmutha

    It’s a new genre of journalism: Factiness!

  • lucidamente

    “Food stamp recipients, metaphorically speaking, were indirectly responsible [for the financial crisis].” Did I just have a stroke, or did Joel Pollack?

  • Ryan Denniston

    “the internet’s shrieking, shit-throwing chimpanzee colony — decided to “fact-check” the speech”

    Oh, I do hope they get around to unskewing the polls this year.

  • Ryan Denniston

    “He “cut” (i.e. spent more gradually) from that spending, but only under protest, after Republicans took the House in 2010.”

    As evidenced by that Grand Bargain that Boehner throatcrammed him with in the first term. Oh, wait…

  • Mavenmaven

    Nothing is embarrassing to Breitbart, whose readership re-posts everything they write while yelling “yeah yeah” and drooling.

  • Callyson

    But the truth is that despite the slow recovery–the slowest since World War II–labor force participation is the lowest it has been in decades. Wages are stagnant, household incomes still have not recovered from the recession, and young people see a bleak future

    Labor force participation has declined due to demographic and structural forces that predate Obama, wages are about to rise and household incomes have in fact recovered from the recession, and young people are in fact optimistic.

    Jesus, how easy do they want to make this?

    • MsAnthropesMr

      Well, just so that their readers won’t click on anything except the boob ads on the side of the page…

    • Latverian Diplomat

      I do think it’s a pretty lackluster recovery, but so was “W’s recovery” and at least this one isn’t built on a phony baloney real estate bubble.

      I would like to see us start those demographic and structural forces, but that requires common sense stuff like raising the minmum wage, re-progressivizing the tax system, increasing Social Security benefits, and other redistributive policies that put money in the hands of people who will spend it. But, no chance of this happening while the moron majority still runs Congress.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        All those things make too much sense, sense that Adam Smith figured out over two centuries ago.

        But the wealth of the nation is not the concern of the 1%. Only the wealth of the 1%.

        • DahBoner
          • Vegan and Tiara

            The next people to lose their jobs will be truck and cab drivers. I was reading something about truck drivers meeting with Google about their driverless vehicles, and Google said “of course we won’t put you out of your jobs, these new devices will just enhance your job.” LULZ…sure, transportation companies won’t get rid of their employees once they have machines who will work for free with no benefits.

          • DahBoner

            I hear driving a truck to fracking sites is ONE OF THE BEST PAYING JOBS down in Tex-ass.
            http://i.imgur.com/vXlRWrG.gifv

          • Vegan and Tiara

            I’m sure it is, maybe not so much now that gas prices are falling, but driving a truck is a fairly good paying job.

          • Villago Delenda Est

            The trucking industry right now is facing a shortage of drivers. Normally, when one is short on labor, the solution is to use economic incentives to attract more employees. But the trucking industry refuses to raise wages and benefits, but still bitches about not having enough employees willing to work for shit pay to drive their fucking trucks.

        • Vegan and Tiara

          My brother has an MBA, and he thinks America needs more tax cuts.
          He’s worked for several branches of the government, including the military, and he collects multiple government checks. I asked him once “how will the rest of us continue to send you our money if we cut taxes?” His final solution to our economic problems, and creeping socialism, was that everyone should work for the government.
          My mom is the same way, she’s pissed that the Social Security she hates didn’t go up this year, but she also wants her taxes cut next year. Derp.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    It only appears that Obama increased the deficit because he ended the pathetic lie of the entire Great Mesopotamian Adventure being “off budget”. He’s still made great progress at reducing the deficit, which didn’t exist when the deserting coward was appointed by five treasonous fucks to the Presidency on December 12, 2000, and the existing surplus was promptly pissed away through tax cuts benefiting the parasite overclass.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      None of these idiots ever realize that Obama started off with a $12 trillion dollar debt, a collapsing economy, two unpaid for wars, and two massive tax cuts at the start of his presidency.
      A few weeks ago after my wingtard neighbor started bitching about Obama’s massive debt, I pointed out to him that Clinton had left surpluses, and the national debt was scheduled to be paid off by 2010. Naturally he didn’t believe me, so I went into his house and pulled up some Federal Reserve notes from the early 2000s where they were discussing how budget surpluses were projected out to the year 2030, even with the aging of the population factored in. He muttered something about George Soros and carried interest loopholes. He always doubts everything I tell him, and then when I prove to him he’s wrong, he just finds something else to bitch about. I actually like the guy, but he’s dumb as a fucking rock, in other words, the typical GOP voter.

      • Whale Chowder

        Jesus, I lost a friend of over 30 years thanks to similar shit. He’d make assertions, I’d pull up documentation that showed he was wrong (in this case, the fact that we were 47th in health care while spending twice as much as the rest of the industrialized world per capita) and he’d move the fucking goalposts.

        I finally called him out on it in frustration (I wasn’t particularly nice) and he got all butthurt over it and we haven’t seen much of each other since. Which is a bit awkward, since he’s still my insurance agent.

        • Vegan and Tiara

          Republicans have gotten to the point that they are just obstinately, willfully ignorant of any and all facts. When my mom makes some bat shit assertion, I will show her all kinds of evidence that proves she’s wrong, but she won’t acknowledge that she’s wrong, or change her mind about it, unless some Republican she respects changes position on it. It’s kind of infuriating.
          Let’s hope you don’t have any accidents in the near future.

          • Whale Chowder

            Oh he’s a professional, there wouldn’t be a problem. We just don’t get the extra little service bits we used to.

            My brother is of a similar bent. Claims to be well informed, then trots out all the nonsense he gets from FOX news. It’s infuriating.

            My favorite recent quote went something like, “I don’t really watch FOX, I think FOX Business Channel is far better.” *sproing!* <== springs and gears exploding from my cranium

          • Vegan and Tiara

            I loved that survey last year that showed that the worst informed people were those who watch Fox News. The best informed were the people who watch the Sunday news shows (like me!). Even the people who watched NO news were better informed than people who watch Fox “News.”
            I’m glad my family members are at least country club Republicans, and don’t watch Fox. They just want no taxes and lavish social benefits for themselves, but not for the moochers who are poor. I would swear I was adopted if it wasn’t for the fact that I have the same teeth all of them do.

      • MyLovelyNose

        That’s the tactic: when you lose on facts, change the subject to something you prefer to bitch about.

    • MyLovelyNose

      I know I’m ignorant, but how was it possible for W to “put it all on the credit card”? How was that legal? Where did he borrow the money from, the SS account?

  • TheBidenator

    Okay so about the Community Reinvestment Act being a culprit- unless wingnuts are going to say an Act passed in 1981 somehow took 27 YEARS to suddenly screw up the economy I am going to rule that as wacky inflatable flailing arm tubeman levels of bullshit. With the subprime mortgages the vast majority, not small majority but VAST majority were properties purchased as investments which people were told to make by Republicans and Alan Greenspan. You lose again you demented shit weasel….

    • Villago Delenda Est

      You don’t suppose something more recent, like the repeal of Glass-Steagal, might have had something to do with it, do you?

      Naaah. That can’t be it!

      • weejee

        So Breitbart wants to return to 4 Pinocchios and being able to fog a mirror to qualify for a loan?

      • Vegan and Tiara

        Phil Gramm after the bank collapse: “you can’t blame me, I didn’t know the banks were going to collapse.” Yet when I tried telling my insurance company that they couldn’t blame me for that accident, because I didn’t know drinking 7 shots of tequila would impair my ability to drive, they didn’t buy it.*

        After Gramm deregulated the banks and energy corporations, he got a job at UBS and his wife got $2 million out of Enron, before they collapsed.

        *I didn’t really have an accident, just using the analogy to illustrate a point (Republicans are dumb).

        • Villago Delenda Est

          That is a very good analogy. Because behaving like drunken poets on payday was how the banksters were operating in 2006-2008.

        • MyLovelyNose

          They’re selectively dumb. “All that there money, I don’ know nothin’ ’bout that kinda bankery stuff, I’m just an ol’ country boy . . . “

    • Vegan and Tiara

      I used to bet wingnuts who said the CRA caused the housing crash $1000 that they had no idea what the CRA actually said, or what it did. Hint: it has nothing to do with either giving poor people houses (that was GWB’s American Dream Home Ownership Act), or lowering the amount of money poor people needed to put down on a house (again: see Greenspan, Alan and also ADHO Act). Not a single wingtard ever took me up on that bet.
      For the record: The CRA said that banks could not red line certain (mostly minority) neighborhoods. In other words, if I came to you and said “I want to buy a house in Detroit,” the bank could not turn me down if I had a job and good credit. The CRA had nothing to do with making it easier for people to buy homes, it was strictly designed to keep banks from not loaning money to people who were eligible for loans.

      • MyLovelyNose

        That is definitely one way to shut a blabmouth conservative down, I’ve used it myself: “Hm, would you like to make it interesting? Bet me fifty bucks that what you’re saying is actually true.”

        Amazing how it shuts them down.

        • Vegan and Tiara

          I’d offer $1000 just to make it really interesting. None of them were willing to risk that kind of money.

  • Callyson

    Obamacare canceled insurance coverage for millions of Americans who did not change jobs

    WaPo has a good breakdown on why this is pure crap.

    I could go on, but fuck if I have time to do so…

  • Ryan Denniston

    I wonder if Dead Breitbart would approve of Breitbart if he could see it today.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      I’m sure the vile sack of shit would. Anything to attack that ni*CLANG*.

    • Tallmutha

      He’d say it’s not James O’Keefey enough.

  • TheBidenator

    5. Pisses me off in particular- actually you assbags if we went with the ‘privatized’ internet it would turn the internet into little fiefdoms controlled by service providers who could freely censor any information, create a two tier system and deny people the ability to use portals owned by another ISP feudal overlord….go vomit out a Ted Cruz shaped object now.

    • weejee

      GolDRM private parters.

  • cousin itt

    Obama did not even mention those Americans in captivity at any point in his speech, declining the chance to reassure the nation that they would come home safely. It is an omission that will define this address in history.

    According to Pollak, what Obama should have said: “My fellow Americans, I really screwed the pooch on this one. I was out golfing at my compound in Kenya when I should have been patrolling the Persian Gulf and personally taken charge of our ships, fired laser cannons at the enemy vessels and dropping a 10 megaton bomb on Tehran for being mean to our brave seamen.”

    • Boscoe

      …like Reagan would’ve done!

      • Vegan and Tiara

        No wingnut remembers Reagan “cut and running” after the Beirut attacks.

        • MyLovelyNose

          Well, of course, that was diffrentdiffrent. It was Saint Reagan.

  • weejee

    stark contrast to the attentive approach of his predecessor

    Shrub may have attended, because reading the briefings was perhaps a modest reach. Also and too, Shrub & Darth Cheney and their neocon sycophants totally ignored the warnings all summer long preceding 9/11 because Shrub had to clear some shrubs on his ranch.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Also, too, Clinton’s people were warning him during the transition, but they were blown off, because, well, Clinton.

    • Spotts1701

      I know people who attend two-hour meetings, look really attentive and focused, then when are asked what happened at the meeting just shrug and say “I dunno.”
      W struck me as that sort of person.

      • just_jim

        “looks really attentive and focused” seems like a stretch for Bush.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    You can put in all the links to all the unbiased analyses of the issues being raised, but that won’t change the fact that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a black man with a funny name who stole the White House from the people who are supposed to live there. You know, White House people.

  • Steverino247

    Nothing reams like a Deere.

  • RoyalUglyDude

    the administration did all it could to stop oil and gas development.

    Actually, $30/barrel is what stopped oil and gas development. If that was the administration’s doing, then Thanks, Obama!

    • OneYieldRegular

      Those poor oil & gas companies were so wretchedly afflicted that now they want to export American oil & gas.

      • DahBoner

        They need a hand out, not a hand up.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Market factors are all important, unless they contradict wingtard ideological dogma.

      • Spotts1701

        Yes. Notice how no one on FOX is now liking low gas prices, despite screaming the prices were too high about .0002 seconds after Obama took the oath in 2009?

    • Anarchy Pony

      Opening up the arctic for offshore drilling definitely counts as stopping oil and gas development.

      • RoyalUglyDude

        Too bad it’s not profitable (I’m being sarcastic).

        • Anarchy Pony

          Well, price’ll go up again.

  • whatwhomever

    In order to fact check something, shouldn’t you first have a basic understanding of what facts are?

    • Boscoe

      Pfft. You Libtards and your standards, qualifications and knowing about things…

    • Antonin Dvorak

      When facts are viewed as fungible, fact checking can be whatever they want it to be.

  • Callyson

    OK, can’t resist just one more:

    food stamp recipients, metaphorically speaking, were indirectly responsible–as well as Wall Street sharks. Obama leaves out the government’s role, under the Community Reinvestment Act, in pushing mortgages on people who could not afford them

    Food stamp recipients wrote the Community Reinvestment Act? Good to know!

    • JMP

      I am just so sick of that so common lie. No, idiots, the banks pushed mortgages on people who could not afford them. They did this of their own volition, then sold the bad mortgages, for short-term profits. The government did not force them to do anything. The government’s fault was passive, because thanks to deregulation the laws designed to prevent this no longer existed.

      It was government inaction, through letting the Free Market do its work unchecked – which in the real world never works out well – that allowed the whole debacle to happen.

      • clubseal

        How is that a metaphor, also too.

      • Vegan and Tiara

        There is another common lie that says subprime mortgages caused the banks to collapse. Subprime mortgages to the poor were a small part of the problem, and most of the houses that the banks foreclosed on were luxury condos, beach houses, and mcmansions. There were way too many spec properties built by developers that did not find buyers when the housing market slowed down. Those properties went into foreclosure first, bringing everyone else’s prices down with them, then everyone in the home building/selling business lost their homes, then everyone in the furniture, or appliances business lost their homes, then everyone in the middle class was fucked. That thing started at the top and snowballed quickly. Most poor people don’t use their homes as investment vehicles, so there were actually a much smaller percentage of poor people who lost their houses, than there were developers who went broke.
        I just looked at a condo today that was originally priced at $1.8 million in 2006, sold at auction for $700,000 in 2012, and is now on the market for $1.849 million. NOTE: I’m not rich and couldn’t afford to buy it, I had a professional reason for going to look at it.

  • Spotts1701

    That is a cruel joke, given that Obamacare canceled insurance coverage for millions of Americans who did not change jobs.

    Just because some moron labels a coupon book “insurance” does not make it so. Nor is it really “insurance” if you have to spend $30,000 or so out of pocket before you get a slight amount of coverage.

    And hey, maybe some premiums went up. Mainly because insurance companies couldn’t rule that since you forgot to mention getting a prescription for acne medication when you were 15, it was “fraud” that justified cancelling your policy. But those lying liars deserved it for lying anyway, amirite?

  • dshwa

    Fact check and Breitbart are words that do not go together.

  • JMP

    “labor force participation is the lowest it has been in decades.”

    Ah yes, another factoid often trotted out by the far right to disparage Obama! This is one of those bits that is technically true, and completely dishonest; use of the “labor force participation rate” says nothing about unemployment, since it includes everybody – including children and the retired. The participation rate was always destined to be low now, because starting 71 years ago, we had a giant increase in the birth rate that lasted decades, called the Baby Boom; the decrease is due an increase in the retired population because the Baby Boomers are now elderly.

    • calliecallie

      Not soooooo elderly…

    • Vegan and Tiara

      When any of my elderly, idiot neighbors trot that gem out, I say “so go back to work then. Everyone knows there are too many retired people sucking up precious resources that could better be used for tax cuts on the rich.” Then they say “why do you hate the rich?” Then I excuse myself and go back to drinking.

      • JMP

        Why hate the rich? How about the fact that they are useless leeches on society, who have “earned” their money either through inheritance or by fucking over the working folk?

        • Vegan and Tiara

          I don’t even hate the rich, I just want them to start paying their fair share, go back to buying mistresses instead of elections, and maybe kicking a bit more for SS in to the pot. Oh, I’d also like them to stop pretending they live in Ireland so they don’t have to pay ANY taxes.

  • TheBidenator

    Obama is now at fault for the Paris attacks? You’re really reaching there, wingnuts. Also, his predecessors approach to intelligence briefings? “You’ve covered yer ass, now watch this drive!” :swack: Seriously, Dubya made them distill any briefing down to one or two pages and he was impatient even when those were being read to him. You’re really not trying anymore wingnut anal blockages…

    • jviscont1

      I had to consult my John Deere catalog to determine what many were, but, do you know what a potato spinner is?

      • TheBidenator

        Something lodged in Jim Hoft’s brain?

      • MsAnthropesMr

  • I like your choice of farm implements; however, having grown up on a farm, I think you missed the one that probably has done more damage to farmers operating them than any other: Silage choppers, aka forage harvesters.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Dead Breitbart: Fully committed to being the Der Stürmer of the 21st Century American teabangical movement.

  • AngryBlakGuy

    …don’t you all remember how all those poor people using their EBT cards to create Credit Default Swaps and other complicated financial instruments?! I love how these ass-clowns try to blame poor people and the “community reinvestment act” for the housing bubble. Yeah it had absolutely nothing to do with a corrupt financial sector that puts profits before anything.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Please, assumes facts that are in evidence, and reflect badly on the parasite financial sector.

  • Steverino247

    I used to read the daily CIA intel briefs and the thing I can say about them is the world is a lot more dangerous than people know. The nature of the danger changes (not so much nuke Russia talk today) but not the fact of it.

  • Vegan and Tiara

    There WAS a big government program that did contribute to the bank collapse. It was called The American Dream Home Ownership Act, and it basically said “any A idiot with a pulse can haz a house.” So Breitbart is correct, other than they got the name of the act wrong, and also the president and party that pushed that dumb idea.
    These fuckers blame Jimmy Carter for the housing crises that happened TWENTY SIX years after he was out of office, and in 2009 were asking “when will Obama quit blaming Bush for this smoking shitpile of an economy???” Grrr….the nerd rage, I feel it building.

    • HogeyeGrex

      Let’s not forget that they were utterly unwilling to let any effective action to fix said shitpile happen.

      • Vegan and Tiara

        I’ll never forget Rick Santelli’s idiotic rant on CNBC about all the home foreclosures: “this is America, I don’t want to pay my neighbor’s mortgage.” Naturally, the banks refused to work with homeowners by lowering their interest rates, so tons of people lost their homes, and the banks fucked themselves so hard they almost completely collapsed. Then they were so stupid they wouldn’t let people sell their houses as a short sale for $300,000, and instead would force the person into foreclosure, and then get $200,000 for the house instead.

        • HogeyeGrex

          Eh. No big. They just wound up demanding, and getting, trillions of bailout bucks from the feds. And now they’re bigger and badder than ever. The lesson they learned, of course, is that no fuckup is too big. And even though there was much theoretical hand-wringing by Republicans, they were more than happy to keep the bankers awash in cash at literally any price, and with a zero accountability clause baked into the deal.

          Any Keynsian spending that might have sped up the recovery, on the other hand, was so far beyond the pale as to not even warrant discussion.

          Also, Rick Santelli can fuck himself with a spring-tooth harrow.

          • Vegan and Tiara

            One thing I will give Reagan credit for – after he deregulated the Savings and Loans, and they collapsed, I seem to remember he nationalized their assets and sold them later for a profit. I might be imagining that, but I think it’s true. Bush just told the banks “here, take this big bag of money, and don’t worry about sharing any of your future profits with us.”
            That dick Hank Greenberg from AIG sued the government recently for bailing his bankrupt company out during the recession. Talk about cajones! I don’t even remember the dumb premise of his dumb lawsuit, but the court told him to go fuck himself with a spring-tooth harrow.
            Rick Santelli can definitely bite me.

  • MyDogsAreSmarterThanYou

    Anyone that works at or reads, and believes, Breitbart is a simpleton that contributes nothing to society.

    • Tallmutha

      Ben Shapiro libe– wait. Hmm, OK, actually you’ve sort of captured Ben Shapiro to the life.

      • MyDogsAreSmarterThanYou

        Shapiro is a sniveling, vindictive so-and-so, also too.

  • Iam Reading

    Breitbart shit heels are too fucking stupid to be embarrassed.

  • cmd

    Harriet the Spy would never have worked for Brietbart. She was too cool. But if she had, it would have been less awful.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      Harriet the Spy rules!

      • cmd

        Now Harriet could write some NEWS if she wanted to, I bet. Probably wouldn’t make much $$ because too brutally honest.

  • JustPixelz

    “…labor force participation is the lowest it has been in decades…”

    Mostly because baby boomers are retiring. Some are retiring early (like me!) because 401k’s have grown like beanstalks and can now get health insurance.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      We don’t need your stinkin’ facts, especially since everyone knew this was coming for decades.
      Yours,
      The GOP

    • Tallmutha

      Well, you lazy fucks oughta be participating in the work force even if your personal finances don’t require it, because Obama.

    • Shibusa

      In October (2015) there were 5.8 million job openings in the USA. Angry white males love to talk about the 92,000,000 Americans who aren’t working without showing any curiosity about who those people are–children, college kids, retireds, and of course “patriots” who can’t work because they have to be ready to take up arms and drive their F150s to any random spot in need of liberating from tyrannical BLM agents….

      • Notreelyhelping

        Those children could be gainfully employed if it wasn’t for your job-killing children’s protection laws!

  • Vegan and Tiara

    This is pure fiction. Obama has doubled the national debt, and it’s not because he cut the deficit.
    The national debt was $12 trillion when Bush left office, and 2009 was Bush’s deficit, so Obama went from $13 trillion to $18 trillion. I can see why Republicans don’t want Americans to have a decent education. Math is hard.

    • Boscoe

      “Meh, so we rounded up a little.”
      -Brietbart’s rat dick eating ghost in hell.

  • cousin itt

    What Pollak said about Nikki was also too, Grade F USDA choice derp: 4. Forgetting sailors in danger. One of the most glaring omissions from Obama’s speech was his complete failure to mention the ten U.S. sailors being held by Iran (they were released Wednesday). No reassurance of their safety, no prayers for their welfare, no thoughts for their families. It was an inexcusable abdication of responsibility–and then Haley did the same.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      There is nothing that happens in the world that cannot be twisted by these microdicks in some way to be used to attack Obama. Obama could cure cancer, could walk across the Potomac, could bestow the winning Powerball numbers on a Breitbart staffer, and they’d still bitch.

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        “He took jobs away from all the cancer researchers!!!11!!! And, and, and – what, he’s too good to ride in a boat?”
        Jebus weeps.

  • clubseal

    I almost clicked on the artisanal toast link, but then thought, “No, that will only make today worse.”

  • MrBlobfish

    It’s like looking at the various stages of evolution. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f8Oz2-tkJq8/hqdefault.jpg

  • clubseal

    Why does he say we’ve given up on regime change like that’s a bad thing? Is Iraq already down the memory hole?

    • Shibusa

      Roughly 53% of Americans believe the US made a mistake sending troops to fight in Iraq. Why this number is not 100% is a mystery to me. [Okay, 99% if you exclude the MIC leeches who profited from it.]

      • clubseal

        That’s the beauty of the mainstream media being in your pocket – they can spread lies as fast as necessary to get the public behind the empire.

      • boll ocks

        This. How can anybody make an argument that our war on terrorism has been anything but a resounding, expensive, and bloody failure?

  • Enfant Terrible

    Yeah, about the Solyndra “scandal”. It’s true that a handful of companies who benefited from the Energy Department’s loan program went belly-up. That happened during the deepest recession since the Great Depression, so one could say there were mitigating factors. But the program as a whole has been a spectacular success. Tesla Motors, for example. And the Energy Department’s loan portfolio has outperformed the portfolios of *every* private venture capital business.

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      More importantly, it happened also when the price of solar cells was dropping rapidly :)

    • Mavenmaven

      “Yeah, but SOLYNDRA!!!”

    • Shibusa

      Yes but the $500 million that Uncle Sam wasted on Solyndra is so much worse than the $24 billion that Uncle Ted Cruz wasted on his temper tantrum government shutdown.

      • Jen_Baker_VA

        That should be a meme. Wingnuts only understand it if it is on a bumpersticker, or a meme

      • Vegan and Tiara

        Or the billions that Reagan pissed away on his Strategic Defense Initiative, aka Star Wars, aka “technology that never worked and that nobody ever saw.”

        Hey, anybody think it’s a good idea to build another 3000 tanks the army doesn’t need or want, while screaming about fiscal conservatism? John Kasich: “YES!!!!”

        • nmmagyar

          My uncle worked on that project. Everyone involved knew there wasn’t a chance in hell of a real SDI working at the time (the technology just wasn’t there) but they took the paychecks just the same.

          • Vegan and Tiara

            Your uncle would have been a fool not to take the money.
            I always get a kick out of Republicans who are opposed to “government spending” and “socialism” but love Reagan. They think he stimulated the economy with a wave of his magic wand, when in fact he stimulated the economy with massive amounts of defense spending. I’m not opposed to government spending to stimulate the economy, I just wish they’d spend it on something worthwhile for a change, like infrastructure. The interstate highways in this country are like banana republic highways.

    • natoslug

      Would one of those mitigating factors also be the massive price drop in raw materials that benefited Solyndra’s competitors? Once again, THANKS, OBAMA!!!!, for not manipulating the commodities market or murdering all of the competitors like a stronger President would have done.

    • Vegan and Tiara

      Also, too, Solyndra went belly up because China was dumping cheap solar panels in America to drive the competition out of business. I guess they were smart enough to realize that cornering a technology that is going to be massively important in the future, was a smart play. We invented solar panels, and those fuckers in China are now the major manufacturers. Thanks, Obama!

  • LarryHoudini

    “a stark contrast to the attentive approach of his predecessor . . .”

    Special Agent: And that’s why we know believe that there could be eight, possibly nine—
    President: Yo, Dick, you try one of these new K cups? We just got the machine today. Tell you what, tastes as good as reglar brewed, right?
    Vice President: It is in fact a good cup of coffee, sir.
    Special Agent: Sorry Mr. President, this is actually extremely import—
    President: How you suppose you pernounce that name. Kee-oo-rig? Cue-rig?
    Chief of Staff: I’ll contact Condi, Mr. President. She’ll know.
    President: Thanks, Andy Panda. Thing is, this way you don’t got to brew a whole pot if you don’t want. Good idea. Say, is this K-thing American made?
    Special Agent: We’re almost done here, Mr. President. If we can just circle back and focus on this terrorist threat—
    President: Probly not American, Kee-oo-rig. Must be Danish or something.

  • proudgrampa

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Just loved that whole cluster….

  • Relativicus

    “Pollak keeps using that word, ‘lying.’ We do not think it means what he thinks it means.”

    Or “factcheck” for that matter.

  • BearGHAZI

    Coal? Slow your roll, Queen Victoria

  • TheBidenator

    10. Jesus you shitbags, we embargoed them for 50 years and it accomplished nothing but if not embargoing Cuba for a year doesn’t result in white people taking over their beaches and Kardashian asses everywhere it’s a failure? With wingnut policies we’re told to wait generations and shit but if a Democratic policy doesn’t work in one day it’s “welp, that failed let’s go back to 50 years of the same thing because that worked so well before” you hypocritical dumb dollops of whale shit….

    • Anarchy Pony

      Whale shit libel.

    • Ubertrout

      Point of order: I think Obama’s policy actually did result in Kardashian asses everywhere.

    • Lefty Frizzell

      Like the “taxing the top 1% at 100% wouldn’t pay off the national debt by this time next year so why raise their taxes at all? Libtard! Politics of Envy! Libtard!!” argument.

    • jmk

      And background checks won’t stop every shooting everywhere so let’s not try them!!

    • Notreelyhelping

      Note: Opening diplomatic relations and lifting the embargo are different. For trolls, this means: they are not the same.

  • DahBoner

    Iran seized two U.S. Navy boats

    How can you tell if a CONservative is still alive?

    Knee jerk reactions.
    http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Knee_b9734d_2049623.gif

  • TheBidenator

    This is the worst fact checking I’ve ever seen…and that’s an understatement. You cannot substitute ideological bullshit and call that “fact checking”, you keep saying that word but it doesn’t mean what you think it means undead beerfarts…

  • Bren

    Non Farm implement with which Joel Pollak yearns to fuck himself: Andrew Breitbart’s dead, embalmed dick.

    • BearGHAZI

      That can’t be that painful

  • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

    I honest to god thought for the longest time that breitbart was a satirical site, like the Onion or something. I used to occasionally check it out and laugh.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Poe’s Law…it’s a helluva drug.

  • Brewerofbeers

    “the Community Reinvestment Act, in pushing mortgages on people who could not afford them, and in backing the derivatives based on those mortgages that ultimately burst the whole bubble.”

    Which is why the bubble burst in high income, wealthy areas and not at all in redlined districts. Or how CRA regulated industries largely remained profitable during the recession, while partially and totally unregulated went flop.

    • DoILookAmused2u ?

      You don’t understand. If we don’t concoct myths about why things happen, blame liberals, etc… well… we might learn from our experience, and that cannot happen!

    • Left Coast Tom

      Well…the bubble burst in lots of places. Here in northern CA, the worst hit was Stockton – which is fairly low income. Of course, the burst occurred because houses in Stockton hit Bay Area like prices despite the complete lack of resemblance in the local markets.

      Of course its absurd to blame a 1970s law for a 2007 crash, the late Tanta at Calculated Risk had a lot to say about that at the time – sadly my searches aren’t turning up the good stuff.

  • Joshua Norton

    From the New Yorker.
    .

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      I like OHJ’s grin and Paul “Douche” Ryan’s oops I crapped my pants face

      • Good_Gawd_Yall

        On MSNBC right before the SOTU, somebody said Ryan’s wife told him to work on his poker face. I think he needed to work on it more. He looked like somebody shoved something up his ass.

        • Grizz1y

          It was a hot poker. Oh wait, they’re telling me that “Poker Face” has nothing to do with fire-place instruments. ~ Douche-Lord Ryan

    • That isn’t good cartooning. At first glance it looked like Barry was leaning back on the pointy end of the mike, for butt-tickling purposes.

      • nmmagyar

        …not that there’s anything wrong with that. Allegedly.

      • enfilmigult

        I didn’t even process “microphone” for a second and thought the idea was that someone crouched behind the podium had a gun pointed at his back. That’s partly me being dumb of course, but I still blame the awkward angle and motion lines that make it look like it fell off his elbow.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    The problem is the same as with Mitt “he was out campaigning, and he never said terrorist” Romney, Ben “Where’s the college transcripts?” Carson, Donald “birther” Trump and every last gobshite among them who went with “Stand down order” long, long after it was debunked.

    They actually believe that right wing memes are the same thing as facts.

  • Joshua Norton

    Republicans being all pissed off that President Obama didn’t stop an attack in Paris is all you need to know about homeschooling.

  • Buuurn…although my own quibble is that the economy does indeed still suck if you’re anyone but rich, if my purely anecdotal evidence about knowing quite a few educated and experienced people in their late 20s and 30s who are working part-time and/or freelance or are living with family counts for anything. (Also, side note, people who praise the ”sharing economy” need to STFU). But even so I’m under no illusion that things would have been a lot worse under a GOP presidency.

    • Anarchy Pony

      Sorry but the sharing economy (in the real and not co-opted like uber sense) is what will get us through the implosion of the empire.

      • Yeah, I definitely meant in the co-opted, technocratic sense.

  • Gleem-McShinez

    “The attentive approach of his predecessor”

    Is this from Breitbart, or some nastygross slashfic about Bush sucking off Dick Cheney?

  • cathartic1

    Curiously absent: “Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: Andrew Breitbart, aka, giant bag of shite”.

  • Heh. Share this with every wingnut you know – then don your rain poncho and watch their heads explode. Heheh. Idiots. And they all believe this shit.

  • Joshua Norton

    Actually, their “facts” check out perfectly, if you go strictly by all the false shit they made up in the first place. Otherwise, not so much.

    If Obama did it, it’s all wrong. If Dubya did it, it’s wonderful.

  • Steve Zakszewski

    I prefer to read DeadCokeheadBreitfart.com in its original German.

  • Antimassacree

    “…the attentive approach of his predecesor.”

    Now that there is some comedy gold.

    • tjknight

      This line had me momentarily confused. It can’t have been meant seriously.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      He means the guy who, when warned of Bin Ladin, went “Well, you covered your ass” right?

  • Joshua Norton

    Tell me Wolf doesn’t look like his bubble just burst!
    .

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      They look so sad that the sailors were freed after only one day

      Edit: I like especially the by line under it. PERFECT, CNN

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Heck, they weren’t really detained. Their boats were broken, needed to be repaired, and they stayed overnight to leave the next day.

        It’s such bullshit. CNN makes Stalin era Pravda look like honest reporting.

  • azeyote

    he could shit gold and they would say he crapped his pants –

  • proudgrampa

    “really, Breitbart?” That “I have absolutely no fucks to give” expression is priceless.

  • LarkintheAM

    Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can go fuck himself:

    Hmm . . . lemme see here . . . we’ve got: a rake, a tractor, a thresher, a postholer, a cattle prod, a sprinkler system, a shovel, a manure spreader, and a potato spinner. Not bad, not bad, but I think you left spike harrow, destoner, subsoiler, seed drill, buckrake, and swather off of that list of playtoys deserved by the rightwing crybabies.

  • Tina in Spokane WA

    Obama “dishonestly assigned” the spending in February 2009 to the previous years budget. Ummm, doesn’t he understand that the Federal budget begins in October? That’s why we go through all the shut down hysteria in Sept/Oct every year. Yep, he writes for Not-so-Bright Bart.

  • LeCafeAuLait

    The welfare recipients are metaphorically to blame???? Good lord. At what point are the poor white people who vote for the Republican party going to realize that they are the 47%? Kind of like in North Carolina, where they finally went with a flat tax and the people who got screwed were old folks who voted in the Republican governor…

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      They all think they are part of the chosen crowd. Each and every one of them. When the shit hits the fan, they do not want to blame themselves for voting the shit in, so they believe that it is all the “others” fault.
      Prison mentality, keep those different groups picking at each other and they won’t turn on the guards.

  • calliecallie

    Here in the Midwest, we call them Implements of Husbandry, which in Joel Pollack’s case seems even more appropriate. Fuck him, with all the implements of husbandry, Katie.

    • natoslug

      Joel sounds like a man interested in animal husbandry. By which I imagine he enjoys shagging dead sheep.

      • Major_Major_Major

        You know he’s planning on getting a lil sumpin-sumpin when he wears his good hip waders.

  • mirrorballdc

    People on food stamps bought all the houses?

    • LeCafeAuLait

      Right. They have all disposable income, what with not having to pay for their own food.

      • nmmagyar

        Also, too perpetuating the myth that there are no income requirements or verification process to get SNAP. You just show up blah and they give you 25,000/mo in ebt.

  • SK

    Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: ….

    Why no lawnmower?

    If it was a lawnmower, then he could have gay-married it, also, too.

  • Mehmeisterjr

    So bottom line, when your editor is a dead cokehead, the journalistic standards are low?

  • toddanthony

    too much GOP bullshit in one article. You need to break it into little chunks, put some coconut oil paste around it and feed it to us a little at a time. Lest we gag.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    …human beings as worthless as Breitbarbarians…

    fify

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Labor force participation is the lowest it has been in decades . . .
    because baby boomers are retiring by the millions, said no wingnut, ever.

    • Zippy

      Not to mention that with Obamacare, people can willingly choose to retire when they want and still get insurance on the exchange, instead of having to grind it out to the bitter end just to keep coverage.

  • Scott Fullerton

    Would you kindly leave off with the chimpanzee insults, for crine out loud?!!!

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      No. You know, they will eat each other’s young just for spite?
      It is utterly apprapos

  • limberrat

    Idiot has obviously not been to the Antelope valley which is practically overflowing with solar panels.

  • Gary Charound

    Did anyone read the linked-to article about the hellfire missiles? I think it says we’re sending 700 million dollars worth of them to Iraq for fighting ISIS, not that ISIS has that amount. I could be wrong, though, because I am a idiot.

    • Jonny On Maui

      So they get 3 of them, better use them wisely…

  • willi0000000

    you forgot the Wonkette approved farm implement . . . the rusty Garden Weasel™.

    • nmmagyar

      We save those for people we like

    • just_jim

      Why no love for the harrow?

      • Manabi

        It was just too harrowing.

  • Gregory Brown

    Dead Breitbart is your one-stop place to shop for farm fertilizer.

  • CJTX

    EDIT: Sorry for long post. Just makes me so grrrrr.

    “It also raised deductibles and premiums so high that many insurance companies are leaving the Obama exchanges totally.”

    Is the above a typo? I don’t see how consumers spending too much is making insurers sad enough to leave the exchange. That literally makes no sense. Insurers love money! It’s like saying water is too dry.

    What I think he meant is an argument I saw in my local paper’s letters to the editor page recently. The letter said ACA is a disaster because it’s still too expensive for consumers and the insurance companies are not making as much as they used to make in the pure private market, so they’re withdrawing. (See how I didn’t say pulling out there.)

    Obamacare closed that gap (which existed prior to it’s creation of course), but that doesn’t make Obamacare a failure, it shows we need single payer or medicare/medicaid expansion – just us like all us uneducated types said back at the start of this thing.

    Republicans fought tooth and nail to make Obamacare as LEAST helpful as possible and now they get to crow about how it’s a failure. And people wonder why I’m a cynic.

    Sigh.

    • Manabi

      By and large the insurance companies love Obamacare simply because of the individual mandate. More people, especially young healthy ones, buying insurance = tons more profit. But you’d never know that listening to the Republicans.

      Also, all I can really find is United Healthcare saying they might leave the exchanges. But they’re a small player compared to the major health insurance companies. (Fewer than 550,000 total covered on the exchanges vs. 1.1 million for Aetna and 824,000 for Anthem.) Frankly, from the coverage it sounds like United Healthcare screwed up on their own, marketing poorly (it sounds like they got very few healthy individuals, and mostly those who can’t afford to keep the plans) and possibly entering too many states too quickly.

      I think this quote from Ben Wakana, spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services sums it up best: “Today’s statement by one issuer is not indicative of the marketplace’s strength and viability.”

  • HenryKillinger

    “Farm implement with which Joel Pollak can fuck himself: A rake, because sometimes you gotta go with the classics.”

    I see what you did there.

  • Enfant Terrible

    Yeah, about that claim about the Community Reinvestment Act… Pollack claims that it was mainly mortgages underwritten under the CRA that defaulted, which led to the bursting of the housing bubble. Not so! In fact, CRA-underwritten mortgages had a lower foreclosure rate than private mortgages, because unlike private lenders and underwriters, borrowers’ incomes and employment were actually verified. Meanwhile, private lenders and underwriters weren’t doing their due diligence:

    “You make $80K a year? OK. Here’s your mortgage for the full purchase amount. It’s adjustable-rate, and of course we expect the rates to go down. Have fun!”

    Families of migrant workers were getting mortgages for houses priced at 3/4 million dollars, fer fuck’s sake.

    One more “fer fuck’s sake” for good measure, because I can’t believe wingnuts are still lying about this shit.

    • TundraGrifter

      The housing debacle was driven, to a large extent, by mortgages originated and sold outside the Federally-regulated banking system.

  • TundraGrifter

    “Rather, he spent staggering amounts of money in his first months in office–which he assigns, dishonestly, to the previous fiscal year, under George W. Bush.”

    The Federal Fiscal Year runs from October 1 to September 30. This is a simple “fact.” Budgets, allocations, disbursements, et. al, are by FY – not calendar year.

    This is just the way it works.

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