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For the “Well, Of Course, It Had To Happen” files today, we learn the attorney for Matthew Apperson, the guy who shot at American Second Amendment hero George Zimmerman last month, is planning on using a “stand your ground” defense, since it’s Florida and everybody needs to stand their ground before the Atlantic Ocean swallows the whole state.

Following Apperson’s bond hearing Friday, his attorney, Michael Lafay, told a reporter “That’s a good look into the future,” when asked about the possibility of a self-defense claim. “And, of course, as you know, Mr. Zimmerman is no stranger to a ‘stand your ground’ situation.”

A spokesperson for the Gods Of Irony said they were veering between riotous laughter and sighing at the predictability of it all.

Apperson was arrested May 11 after shooting at Zimmerman in Lake Mary, Florida, after the two men encountered each other in traffic. He claimed that Zimmerman pointed a gun at him and threatened to kill him, so he fired a single round at Zimmerman from a .357-caliber handgun; the shot missed but Zimmerman was injured in the face and arm by flying debris when the bullet hit the interior of his truck.

Zimmerman’s attorney, Don West, says that Apperson attacked Zimmerman without provocation, and that Zimmerman did have a weapon in his vehicle, but didn’t brandish it, arguably the first time in his life that he ever missed the opportunity to wave a gun around.

At the bond hearing Friday, Judge Debra S. Nelson ordered Apperson to wear a GPS ankle bracelet that would set off an alert on a device worn by Zimmerman if Apperson comes anywhere near him. Isn’t technology a wonderful thing? The GPS device will not restrict Apperson’s movements but will give Zimmerman the chance to avoid him, or, this being George Zimmerman, to lock and load. Not that he’d ever do such a thing.

West said the shooting for Zimmerman was “a remarkably traumatic event.” A bullet passed within “inches of his head.”

Before the hearing, West said Zimmerman is currently in the Seminole County area but plans to leave the state.

Betting lines are now open on George Zimmerman’s eventual destination; our money is on Texas. Perhaps red states will have a bidding war to try to recruit him.

Prosecutors said in their motion for the GPS device that Apperson has a history of bipolar disorder and anxiety, and that three weeks prior to the shooting, Apperson had been released from a psychiatric ward. In an arrest report, a Lake Mary police detective wrote, “It appears that Apperson has a fixation on Zimmerman[.]” Since George Zimmerman is a paranoid who’s certain that there’s a price on his head, so they seem like they’re destined to star in a sitcom/reality show together. Yr Wonkette is already preparing to pitch The Deadliest Odd Couple to TLC, which may have a programming slot available.

The May shooting was apparently the third encounter between the two men; the first, back in September, was another road rage incident in which Zimmerman allegedly threatened Apperson at a stoplight, yelling “Why are you pointing your finger at me? I (expletive) kill you. Do you know who I am?” There was no prosecution in that incident, because George Zimmerman never gets charged Apperson declined to press charges.

In addition to the .357 he used to shoot at Zimmerman, he also had a .22 caliber Glock .40 caliber Glock 22* and 47 rounds of ammunition in his vehicle at the time of the shooting. And George Zimmerman, needless to say, was also armed. You’d almost think that gun-humpers’ bumper stickers are fibbing about that whole “An armed society is a polite society” thing. Or maybe you just need more guns everywhere to improve the overall level of etiquette.

*Update/correction: The Orlando Sentinel identified Apperson’s second handgun as a “.22 caliber Glock;” alert commenter “JohnR” notes that it was almost certainly a “Glock Model 22,” which is .40 caliber, not .22 caliber. In other words, a bigger bangier gun.

[Orlando Sentinel / RawStory]

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  • I really need the NRA to explain the whole “more guns” etiquette. For example, can I use the same gun for the fish course that I would normally use for a salad course?

    • marxalot

      I think that’s covered in the member’s handbook, right after “Changing the Channel Elvis-Style.”

    • JohnBull

      Good luck; like the NRA knows what a salad course is.

      • JustPixelz

        What about fried salad?

      • chicken thief

        ‘Salad’ is what you feed cows. Then you shoot the cow and eat it. Duh.

        • aureolaborealis

          More succinctly (actual quote): “Salad is what my food eats.”

        • jmk

          I once overheard someone say “I only like secondhand salad.”

          • Wouldn’t that be poop?

          • jmk

            When you think it through, yes…but the speaker of this bon mot was not of the “think it through” variety.

    • memzilla

      Pay attention to the order the guns are placed next to the plate. Start with the salad gun, it’ll be on the outside. Use the derringer for clams. They should bring you fresh guns for each course. Signify you’re done by placing your guns parallel on the plate. If they’re Chinese, leave a few bullets on the plate, otherwise it’s seen as an insult that they didn’t serve you enough. Use the bullet mold for the sorbet course.

      • Lot_49

        I should go delete mine now; yours is so much better.

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Emily Post and Miss Manners both agree: a .357 is the minimum caliber for a first-class restaurant. .22 calibers are for places like McDonalds, Burger King, and Checkers. Maybe Apperson couldn’t decide where to eat that day and was just prepared for whatever etiquette dictated.

    • Lot_49

      Well everyone shoots the fish course; how else can you stop them from flopping around on the plate? But perforating the arugula with your 12-gauge is the mark of a real gentleman.

    • artem1s

      Inara Serra: Every well-bred petty crook knows that the small, concealable weapons always go to the far left of the place setting.

  • exinkwretch

    Only a moron with a gun can stop a dipshit with a gun!

  • Msgr_Moment

    You’d almost think that gun-humpers’ bumper stickers are fibbing about that whole “An armed society is a polite society” thing. Or maybe you just need more guns everywhere to improve the overall level of etiquette.

    My fault. I keep meaning to buy one, but every time I go past the pawn shop I end up coming home with another stuffed squirrel instead.

  • Treg Brown

    “West said the shooting for Zimmerman was “a remarkably traumatic event.” A bullet passed within “inches of his head.”

    I’d say you were lucky then. Too bad about the trauma, but at least George is alive to feel something.

    • darnyoudarnyoutoheck

      Damn, sucked the snark right out of me.

  • chazmanr

    Seems to me that the empirical evidence supports the notion that an armed society views being armed as being a license to be a dick rather than to be polite.

    • JustPixelz

      Many years ago I worked with a guy who legally carried a handgun. He made some extra dough serving court papers and said the gun was in case someone got pissed. Apparently that had never happened, but he told stories of the numerous other times he heroically had to draw his gun to stop some miscreant, such as a drunk in a bar. I came to realize the gun made him belligerent toward these people, provoking their behavior. An armed asshole is a rude asshole.

      • Lot_49

        You gotta compensate somehow for being, uh…underendowed.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        That’s the thing about firearms…just having one means “gosh, I need to use this for SOMETHING”.

        Which is why I am leery, to say the least of these overcompensating assholes who wander around packing heat all the time.

      • jmk

        I remember reading an article by a writer who lived in Washington, DC. His brother had been robbed at gunpoint, which prompted him to get a gun for himself. He described how he eventually got rid of his gun after gradually noticing that he had begun to look for circumstances that might “require” him to draw it, and was looking at everyone around him with a kind of instant belligerence…which he came to realize was the most dangerous aspect of gun-toting.

        • david green

          Recall a SF novel in which it was suggested that a knife was a better weapon for most purposes as a gun “made someone think he was 10 feet tall and covered with hair”, while someone with a knife would tend to be far more selective in taking on others. .

  • JohnR

    Correction, most likely a Glock Model 22 which is what most police carry it is a .40 caliber not .22. Back on topic though how awesome that a dude just released from a psychiatric hospital is cruising around with 2 handguns, then again Zimmerman is out there too so it makes sense in a nonsensical way.

    • JohnnyZhivago2

      A 22 caliber Glock would be like a Porsche with a 55 hp engine.

      • MsAnthropesMr

        Like this 80HP example (actually more, since this is a 6, but you get the drift)?

        • JustPixelz

          Men sure love numbers. Horsepower, batting averages, CPU speeds, calibers.

          • MsAnthropesMr

            I teach statistics to Grad students. Women can love numbers too.

          • JustPixelz

            They can love numbers, but … why can’t they love me? (sobs)

          • Doug Langley

            You just need more numbers.

          • aureolaborealis

            Maybe bigger numbers.

          • YayConspiracy

            you’re not prime.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            Because you’re an irrational radical?

          • calliecallie

            I was told there would be no math.

          • MsAnthropesMr

            I contend the only reason that people hate math is because most Math teachers are so shitty.

          • jmk

            This is also my beloved’s contention, which he repeats after I remind him that my degree is in English.

          • aureolaborealis

            I’ve taught elementary education students. After listening to them chat about why they were pursuing that career, I believe that a lot of people hate math because their first exposure to math is from teachers who self-selected elementary education because they hate math (often science too!). Those teachers are bad at math, present it badly, then happily welcome new converts to the ranks of the innumerate. (I realize there is a chicken-and-egg thing going on there.) Also, too, we as a society eagerly and ridiculously allow people to declare themselves to be bad at math, usually at the arithmetic stage (I think hating arithmetic is entirely reasonable), long before they get to the ‘math’ part of math, where the beauty and wonder reside.

          • david green

            True. Years after college, I went back and took a couple of semesters of math at the local community college. Had I had that instructor in High /school, I likely would have been an engineer rather than a public administration type.

          • mtn_philosoph

            Hated computation (arithmetic) in grade school. Got poor to mediocre grades in it.
            Loved algebra and trig in high school. Aced every course.

            Having quality teachers in HS who paid attention to me was part of it, most likely a very big part.

          • aureolaborealis

            I teach statistics to undergraduates (and some grad students). Undergraduate women apparently love numbers more than undergraduate men do.

          • mtn_philosoph

            I blame the expansion of the MLB leagues and the advent of the playoff system, plus the rise of football at the expense of baseball over the years. Back when there were two leagues with no subdivisions and a pennant race in each one each year, American boys routinely became adept at accurately calculating and recalculating percentages and averages to the third decimal in their heads on the fly by the time they reached the third grade. But starting at the end of the ’60s it all went to hell.

          • natoslug

            Waistline, penile length, hours sober . . .

      • Blank Ron

        So, a Porsche 356?

    • doktorzoom

      Thanks, not being a gun person, I was going with what the Orlando Sentinel wrote, and it sounded funny to me, too. Will correct.

      • JohnR

        It’s just that the ammosexuals will discount the entire context of the article, ifin yall don’t talk guns good, not that anyone cares.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          They’re exceptionally pissy about those sort of things.

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            20 kids get killed, and they debate the merits of the gun that was used.

  • Left Coast Tom

    Before the hearing, West said Zimmerman is currently in the Seminole County area but plans to leave the state.

    Huh? Florida seems perfect for him.

    • MsAnthropesMr

      Arkansas might have him.

  • cousin itt

    If the Atlantic did swallow Florida, how would we know the difference?

    • JohnBull

      One less George Zimmerman in the world, so that’s already an improvement.

    • jviscont1

      careful what you wish for, Rick Scott will move to a neighborhood near you and appear on some ballot.

    • Doug Langley

      For starters, they’d have to change the law to Stand Your Ocean.

    • LeftCoastLeftie

      We’d only read daily about assholes in Texas, Missouri, and Arkansas.

    • calliecallie

      Carl Hiaasen would have less material for his novels.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      My last message would be “Glub.”

    • Blank Ron

      No more Florida Man stories, for which we would all be a little poorer.

  • dslindc

    George is leaving Florida? Doesn’t sound like he’s standing his ground at all. LIAR!

    • beatbort

      Chicken!

  • Lizzietish81

    It would be delicious irony if he was shot and killed by another white second amendment hero.

    And he seems to be working very hard to make that happen.

    • JustPixelz

      The most delicious irony is just desserts.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Hostess Ho Hos are nothing to laugh at.

        • Blank Ron

          I beg to differ, cupcake.

  • freakishlystrong

    In addition to the .357 he used to
    shoot at Zimmerman, he also had a .22 caliber Glock and 47 rounds of
    ammunition in his vehicle at the time of the shooting.
    . And this:

    Apperson has a history of bipolar disorder and anxiety
    What could go wrong letting this guy have gunz?

    • ottercliff

      Wow, a .357 and a .22 means he had a total of .577.

      • chicken thief

        The .22 is a throw away in case he accidentally shoots an unarmed person. Zimz should take note.

      • NerdWithNoName

        No no. The Pythagorean theorem applies. Square root of( .357 squared plus .22 squared). Answer: .4193… See, science!

        • guppy06

          Are gun calibers added like resistors or capacitors?

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            Depends on whether you shoot somebody in series or in parallel.

      • FlownOver

        .577, .578, whatever it takes,

      • guppy06

        And yet he still gets asked “Is it in yet?”

      • ibwilliamsi

        If they’d all take a 420, they’d be chilling and eating Cheetohs.

      • ibwilliamsi

        If they’d all take a 420, they’d be chilling and eating Cheetohs.

    • MrBlobfish

      American Exceptionalism.

    • mailman27

      Welcome to New Somalia!

  • JohnnyZhivago2

    Is he taking those new George Bush Correspondence Finger Painting classes?

    • SK

      Finger painting with his own feces. Yup, that’d be the Bush school.

    • ottercliff

      He was ineligible – no bathtub.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Nope – he’s taking the “steal someone else’s image, ‘shop the colors, and call it art” approach.

  • beatbort

    Wow, that photograph. A murderer hiding behind an American flag. Pretty much sums up pretty much everything, doesn’t it?

    • jviscont1

      looks like the Betsy Ross camo edition flag.

    • Lot_49

      What really makes it poignant is that no one bothered to crop out the light switch on the wall behind Z-man.

  • stankbait

    Those who live by the gun, stand a very good chance to die by the gun.
    Hard to imagine a piece of shit worse than Zimmerman.

    • cessnadriver

      The killer’s fantasy is that every black person is out to get him.

      Then a white gun freaks shoots at him.

      Classic.

  • cessnadriver

    What that situation needed was more guns.

    • SK

      Or Duggars. Daggers. I meant more daggers.

    • freakishlystrong

      And tax cuts.

    • Hardly Ideal

      I’m almost certain that would go swimmingly.

  • edith prickly

    As I said yesterday when a coworker shared this news” “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *pause for breath* “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA”

    The sad thing is that this is still unlikely to convince anyone that the “stand your ground” law is, was and will always be a terrible idea.

  • MsAnthropesMr

    Musta missed the memo about an armed society being a polite one.

    • cessnadriver

      The killer claims that he’s in fear for his life-while driving around in that recognizable vehicle flying an American flag.

      Well, now he knows that he has white stalkers….it could be anyone who gets him…..NOW he has a reason to be a-skeered.

  • tegrat

    More importantly was Zimmerman packing Skittles at the time of the incident? That would pretty much seal up Apperson’s case.

    • janecita

      Maybe, but at least he wasn’t wearing a hoodie.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      The sidewalk was out of reach, so it’s a close call.

  • memzilla

    19 Restraining Orders And Counting.

  • memzilla

    I predict it’s only a matter of time before one of these gun-humping ammosexuals ghey-marries their own penis extension firearm. In Texas the age of consent is AR-14.

  • janecita

    I’m assuming that Mr. Apperson, was the good guy with a gun in this particular situation.

    • jviscont1

      and being bipolar and anxious, what could possibly go wrong?

  • Lizzietish81

    Have you ever noticed how Zimmerman’s smile is always exactly the same?

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Just like a jack-o-lantern. Also both heads are the same in that they are totally void of contents.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        To steal a lyric from Frank Zappa: “He’s got a whole lot of nothing in there”

    • guppy06

      Rictus.

  • VandeGraf

    The NRA has to be loving this. Guys “standing their ground”, shooting at one another, defending themselves with firearms? Short of full blown militia insurrection, this is an NRA wet dream!

  • Malmborg Implano

    If Zimmerman went to the Southwest he’d get racially profiled for being Latino!

    • david green

      Nah. The Zimmer and Sheriff Joe would become best buddies.

  • Brewerofbeers

    The irony is delicious and sustains me.

  • memzilla

    I’m going to need extra space on my schaden to stack all this freude on.

  • Gorillionaire

    They should shoot at one another during the court appearances, just to keep everyone polite.

  • Toomush_Infer

    Is the GPS unit called “Stand Your Ground….Or Not, Maybe”?…..

  • ottercliff

    Clearly Mr. Apperson suffered from PTSD, stemming from his being denied his weapons while in a psychiatric ward. What we need in this country is free access to our guns in psychiatric wards. Wayne LaPierre, please fight this affront to our God given Second Amendment rights.

  • Mavenmaven

    Zimmerman goes Galt!

  • Olav_Pompatus

    A bullet passed within “inches of his head.” Yikes! How close was that to a vital organ of Mr. Z?

    • Whale Chowder

      At least a foot.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I’m guessing a hundred yards.

  • ibwilliamsi

    It seems to me this device thing showing that the two are in close proximity should be reciprocal. Doesn’t this just give Guns-a-Blazin’ George the opportunity to drive around town until his beeper goes off and shoot this guy, claiming that he was being followed and standing his ground?

    In fact, Georgie should wear the ankle device and the rest of the world should have beepers to alert us as to his proximity. I never shot anyone I was in fear of my life from, but this thing sure could come in handy.

  • Bitter Scribe

    As the late, great Mike Royko said: If it could be magically fixed so that the gun-humpers could only shoot each other, I’d sell them guns at cigar stands.

    • Steverino247

      Sort of like in Westworld where you can only shoot the robots.

  • Shibusa

    So nearly getting shot was, for Zimmerman, “a remarkably traumatic event” but actually shooting a 17 year old to death was…meh.

    • chicken thief

      And also too waving guns around at the ex-wife, former girlfriends, the ex-father-in-law, etc.

    • Toomush_Infer

      It’s different when the gun’s on the other asshole…

    • malsperanza

      I’m sure that was traumatic for him too … well, the getting arrested and going on trial part, anyway.

  • Can I have an ankle bracelet that will warn me if Zimmerman and/or Apperson ever comes near me?

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Amazon. $19.95. Free delivery with Plus. Going fast. Also try Toys (backward) R Us.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        Я
        (Copy for future use.)

    • SnarkOff

      The whole country ought to have these.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    A spokesperson for the Gods Of Irony said they were veering between riotous laughter and sighing at the predictability of it all.

    Not to start a schism within what should be our state religion around here, but given that irony usually includes an element of being contrary to expectations, I’m on the “sighing” side of this important theological debate.

    • Whale Chowder

      Depends on whose expectations we’re filtering through. From Zim’s POV, the expectation was that he’d always be the armed dude standing his ground, thus sweet sweet irony.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I would be tempted to attend services at the First Church of Irony. Christmas would be a blast.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Tonight’s reading is from the Book of O. Henry, Chapter II, “The Gift of the Magi”.

  • chicken thief

    “and that Zimmerman did have a weapon in his vehicle, but didn’t brandish it,…”

    If true, it’s only because it had shit all over it after the bowel emptying, bullet whizzing past the head incident.

  • Rufus T. Firefly

    This is why we need to bring back dueling.

    • Hardly Ideal

      So long as the challenged gets to pick the weapons like Lincoln did.

      • jviscont1

        one of the funniest chapters in macho history from what I’ve read

      • Blank Ron

        ICBMs at 20 million paces!

  • chicken thief

    The NRA has an out here: Apperson only fired once and missed – definite no-no’s in Gunhumperland and Zims didn’t fire back – even more egregious.

  • Ricky Gay

    I’m lovin’ it

  • Callyson

    Betting lines are now open on George Zimmerman’s eventual destination; our money is on Texas

    “Oh hell no: it’s on, bitches!”

    – Arizona

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Yeah, but there’s a LOOONNG waiting line.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        I hope his papers are in order.
        Oh wait . . . not actually brown. Never mind.

  • Joshua Norton

    Apperson had been released from a psychiatric ward.

    So obviously the type of upstanding Florida citizen who should be allowed to be heavily armed.

  • Well, if this sort of thing is a sign toward our near future, I better start modeling myself after Tina Turner in MAD MAX: BEYOND THUNDERDOME. (Well, like I wasn’t doing that already).

    • Swampgas_Man

      I thought FURY ROAD was about California. Who knew we’d have deserts in Florida?

      • Blank Ron

        Just the parts still above water.

    • Blank Ron

      PICS or GTFO!

  • say wha

    “…Zimmerman allegedly threatened Apperson at a stoplight, yelling ‘Why are you pointing your finger at me? I (expletive) kill you. Do you know who I am?’ ”
    SARAH PALIN LIBEL!!!111!!!

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    What says Well Regulated Militia more than “history of bipolar disorder” and “released from a psychiatric ward”?

  • calliecallie

    Too bad Apperson’s not a better shot. With votes, okay, fine.

  • guppy06

    Yr Wonkette is already preparing to pitch The Deadliest Odd Couple to TLC, which may have a programming slot available.

    So which one will turn out to be a pædophile?

    • jmk

      AOT, K

    • SnarkOff

      Your use of that “ae” thingy makes “pedophile” looks so much classier.

      • guppy06

        That’s exactly why I went for it! Makes me sound so British…

        • bobbert

          Also, “ligature” is a great word.

    • kissyface

      according to Zimmerman’s cousin, Zimmerman is a pedo

  • alwayspunkindrublic

    Homer Simpson thought NRA stood for Nachos, Rifles, and Alcohol.

    • Whale Chowder

      It doesn’t? Have you informed Wayne LaPierre?

  • Anarchy Pony

    Liberty and justice for those that don’t get shot by trigger happy morons.

  • SnarkOff

    “Apperson has a history of bipolar disorder and anxiety, and that three weeks prior to the shooting, Apperson had been released from a psychiatric ward.”

    AND THIS MAN IS ARMED. Jesus Christ.

    • Swampgas_Man

      This is your Well Regulated Militia.

      • Blank Ron

        To be fair, it says ‘well regulated,’ not ‘well medicated.’

    • Whale Chowder

      What’s more, the NRA is actively preventing people like this from being screened for these kind of things before getting weapons. Jeebus Christos indeed.

  • Angry_Cop

    so much for my bright idea of retiring in Florida.

    • Logic of Color

      So this is the proverbial Straw that proverbially broke the proverbial camel’s proverbial back? After all the poop that goes on in America’s Wang that Wonkette dutifully reports? Man, I left Florida years ago, and I’ve never even been there.

  • undercover epicurean

    “Apperson has a history of bipolar disorder and anxiety, and that three weeks prior to the shooting, Apperson had been released from a psychiatric ward.”

    I certainly sleep more soundly knowing this good guy has a gun.

    • Kat Anyperson

      To be fair, months of Zimmerman stalking and threatening anyone would likely leave them feeling anxious.

    • cessnadriver

      The NSRA wants mental patients to keep gun rights until convicted of a violent crime and until all appeals are exhausted. For freeddddduuuuummmmmbbbbbb!

    • bobbert

      Knowing that he’s in Florida helps.

  • Reddishrabbit

    I have to wonder, are rhe guns being taken care off? The poor things, likely in a lock up, no one gentle stroking the barrel and thinking of all the enemies out to get them. Poor babies.

  • Reddishrabbit

    I have to wonder, are rhe guns being taken care off? The poor things, likely in a lock up, no one gentle stroking the barrel and thinking of all the enemies out to get them. Poor babies.

  • Cranky Man

    Florida you say? Pfft, 47 rounds is 30 seconds at the air conditioned indoor pistol fondling facility. Should be cited for driving with insufficient ammo.

  • Jen_Baker_VA

    Zim best not move to Tejas. They don’t like them no messican immigrunts down there in those there parts.

  • zerosumgame0005

    well, looks like i am about to be banned for saying not mean things about Hillary…surprising since I also post not mean stuff about Bernie, but hey that does not seem to be tolerated here…

    • doktorzoom

      Actually, I deleted one post because you called someone an asshole and “an example of PUMA bullshit” without provocation — in response to their merely saying “Dude, not everyone is a Hillary cheerleader. Don’t be mean.” It was just one post, and as long as you can manage to keep your disagreements civil, you’ll be in no trouble at all.

      • BRONY KILLER ALL DAY EVERY DAY

        YOU CANNOT REASON WITH THE BRONY, HE IS PERVERTED BY NATURE!!!! GET THE .45 IN YOUR POCKET AND RID US OF THE MENACE THAT IS BRONYISM!!!! BEAT THEM UP AND DOWN UNTIL THEIR SKIN IS ON YOUR KNUCKLES!!!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rRuP2-bf6M

        • BRONY KILLER ALL DAY EVERY DAY

          AND TAKE THEIR MONEY TOO!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Kat Anyperson

    Uh.. why was Zimmerman allowed to stalk and harass someone with a serious medical illness that affects cognitive processes in the first place?

    I can understand the guy not pressing charges- if you are dealing with mental health issues, you don’t need the additional stress of navigating the justice system. (This is especially true for Bipolar as stress is a major cause of lability.)

    Watch them throw the book at this guy- the criminal justice system isn’t a friend to those suffering from mental illness.

  • TheBidenator

    Sure, I buy that Zimmerman was fired on unprovoked because he’s such a bastion of calm and level-headedness who doesn’t threaten to murder everyone. I also buy that Apperson is nuts because he has all the guns and that means he’s a loon, too. What I don’t buy is who in their right mind thinks either of these violent lunatics should be armed…

    • cessnadriver

      Gun toting weenies think that their gun weenie permit makes them little deputies and they are out there protecting little old me.

      I feel so secure!

  • Kat Anyperson

    Frak’s sake, can’t believe I need to post this here of all places. *sigh* I don’t want to do this multiple times for the people freaking out that the bipolar dude (who was being stalked by a dangerous lunatic) had a gun.

    People with serious mental illnesses pose more of a danger to
    themselves than others. People with severe mental illnesses, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or
    psychosis, are 2 ½ times more likely to be attacked, raped or mugged
    than the general population. The link between violence and the mentally ill has been attributed almost entirely to their portrayal in the media- much in the same way minorities are scapegoated for violence.

    While there are some who are violent to others,
    they are a tiny minority among the vast numbers of people who are not
    violent. Their violence is also not really attributed to the disorders
    themselves- statistically speaking, they committed other crimes related
    to poverty, drugs and other issues. For people with bipolar, the big problem comes from self medication when manic and not the mania itself.

    Someone having bipolar and a gun doesn’t make them a danger to society.

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      Until they shoot at somebody, like Apperson did.

      • Kat Anyperson

        The same can be said for anyone who commits a violent act. At that point, they are subject to the legal system.

        My point was to address the biased perception of mental illness being an increased factor for violence.

        • dshwa

          A mentally ill person is, however, much more likely to use that gun on themselves than a non mentally ill person, which is also a good reason not to let them have one.

          • Kat Anyperson

            Threat of self harm or harm to others are good reasons, aye, but there needs to be a clear line drawn in the sand with mental illness and gun access. Until someone crosses the point that they are a danger to themselves or others, I question restricted access to civil rights. Expanded access to mental health care services is a step in the right direction, but expanding it over gun crime would be for all the wrong reasons.

            There are many who are eager to scapegoat the mentally ill for gun violence and are perfectly willing to regulate their access to weapons as an act of political theater. Don’t get me wrong- I’m VERY pro gun control. I just feel the need to stick my neck out for very stigmatized (and misunderstood) segment of the population.

            Most people still don’t even know that shit is genetic- what makes them think they know how someone with the disorder will behave?

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            Maybe waiting to find out isn’t such a great idea?

          • Kat Anyperson

            It isn’t, but that isn’t a cut and dry issue. I really do get what people are saying. I just have a unique perspective as I’ve known someone for 35 years with Type II Rapid Cycle Bipolar with psychosis. Cultural stigma regarding mental illness is pretty shitty in general, but let’s just say central PA still acts like it’s a moral failing and not a complicated series of genetic mutations that affect brain composition and chemistry. Another popular myth is that the mentally ill are violent.

            Probability does not mean someone will violate the law or commit suicide. As many people as there are in this country that have bipolar or schizophrenia, how many of them do you think have guns? The number is probably pretty damn high- this IS Amuricah, after all. The vast majority of them will avoid hurting themselves or others.

            The reason increased access to health care services is so important is to ensure the mentally ill have the social skills needed to maintain a support system. The reason increased access to education and support services for patients loved ones is they are the last line of defense.

            If someone with a mental health issue’s first contact with someone who can recognize that they are out of control is the police, it is likely already too late for that person. Educated, supportive families who can watch for changes in behavior early and seek power of attorney for hospital admissions are necessary to keep the severely mentally ill thriving. They are the ones who can get the guns out of a patients hands before they escalate to the point law enforcement gets involved or they end up dead.

    • tiredofdogma

      Every gun owner is responsible, until he/she is not.

      • Biel_ze_Bubba

        “No true responsible gun owner…”

  • malsperanza

    “Why are you pointing your finger at me? I (expletive) kill you. Do you know who I am?”

    Good to see that fame hasn’t gone to his head.

    And of course he’s going to Texas; he’s going back to school, now that it’s safe to be on a campus there.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    Two armed nutbags at war with each other. What could go wrong?

    No, really . . . I know what could happen, but what could go wrong?

    • willi0000000

      collateral damage.

      • FauxAntocles

        WWIII

  • willi0000000

    stole this off another Raw Story post

    • Blank Ron

      That gun’s WAY too big.

      • cessnadriver

        Should be a derringer.

        • Blank Ron

          Definitely a single shot, one that can take days to reload too.

  • disqus_QhnRXuc1eo

    Look at all the losers here. Can’t beat the NRA, so we’re going to have a “news” site so we can talk about how bad the NRA is. Pathetic

    • bozilingus

      Maybe you could share with us some of the good that the NRA is doing. Seriously, please.

      • disqus_QhnRXuc1eo

        As long as you’re pissed off and blaming the NRA, that’s a good thing in my book ;)

  • Marcus Collack

    SO zimmerman met zimmerman! HA! That’s okay Zimmerman will keep attacking police and random people, and eventually one of them will take his life, and by his own precedent there is nothing he can do about it. if you can accost/kill a teenager walking home, then you can most definitely can kill someone for being aggressive and coming at you, he has sealed his own fate, he better not so much as raise his voice at anyone ever again, although if someone doesn’t like how he looks, he screwed too. GOOD!

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